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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to episode five sixty four of five Dive It.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Monday, July twentieth. I'm your host, Kray Goldstein, joined

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<v Speaker 1>as usual by Patrick Dubuke and Jeffrey patron Nostro. Good morning,

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<v Speaker 1>Good afternoon for me, Good morning for you guys. How

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<v Speaker 1>is the weekend? What do we have for banter? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we want World covered? Dog?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's just world.

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<v Speaker 2>You know where I'm voting, I know, yeah, Well just couple.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get out of the way. Awful, awful finals. Spain

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<v Speaker 1>deserved it at our team, the entire game, the entire tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>Argentina diabolical game of football.

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<v Speaker 1>Argentina made that miserable. Ye watch? Uh and and just

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<v Speaker 1>like shitty in gen I mean, like, I know that's

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<v Speaker 1>the reputation right that it's I saw I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was Ben Clements say this is this is a team

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<v Speaker 1>of one Steph Curry and everyone else is Draymond Green.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's not super wrong. That was tough.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a tough watch People on like social media

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff be like, well, you know it was. It

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<v Speaker 2>was tense, right, it was tense, And yeah, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was also just like doing other things in

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<v Speaker 2>the living room while it was if you if.

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<v Speaker 1>You were rooting for Spain, was it ever really tense? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't get a shot in in the first ninety minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, that was like not a game that would

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<v Speaker 1>get a socker someone into soccer right now.

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<v Speaker 2>The third place game, on the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Hand, yeah, very different.

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<v Speaker 2>Just we're talking about, like, you know, how to fix

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<v Speaker 2>the All Star Game, just make it like that, to

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<v Speaker 2>make the baseball of whatever that is. Yeah, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even like the no defense and no effort stuff like.

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<v Speaker 2>It was also like combined with just everybody shooting threes

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<v Speaker 2>basically see at the same time and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>them going in. So yeah, that was fun as far

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<v Speaker 2>as dog goes. You know, I haven't had a puppy

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<v Speaker 2>in a while. We have an older dog that's not

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<v Speaker 2>a big sure of things like bones or toys or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But we have some laying around the house and the

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<v Speaker 2>puppy seems like them, and we got him like more

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<v Speaker 2>various bones and sticks and toys to chew on. All

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<v Speaker 2>that dog wants to do is go outside, dig up rocks,

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<v Speaker 2>carry them into the house and no on them. Rocks, rocks,

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<v Speaker 2>don't get dogs to rocks. Always pitched the rocks, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you got to give him a high value

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<v Speaker 2>toy to get the rock. He doesn't seem particularly perturbed.

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<v Speaker 2>And we take just a collection of rocks on the

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<v Speaker 2>table by the door now. But because I throw him

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<v Speaker 2>back out there, he's just gonna go back and get him.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, we'll say my cat. You know cats,

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<v Speaker 3>they you know, cardboard boxes are essentially the same thing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>The box, but he choos on boxes too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not sure I've ever heard of a dog.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a We've never had him dog, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't This is ignorance more than him, I'm sure, But

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<v Speaker 1>like I I had not heard of a dog going

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<v Speaker 1>after rocks specifically.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very funny because the other short face, because he's

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<v Speaker 2>a pug Yorky mix, so he can't like he's just

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<v Speaker 2>like try to carry these like fairly large rocks into

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<v Speaker 2>how they're just like taking up his entire face, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you're not able to sneak that in, but sorry, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not good for you to chew on a rock.

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<v Speaker 2>He just put her nose on them. I mean no,

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<v Speaker 2>we can like break his puppy teeth on them. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I switch him out for the bones or

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<v Speaker 2>the chew toys or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like there would be some enamel damage after

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<v Speaker 3>a while, Like like bones are hard, but their bones are.

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<v Speaker 3>The teeth are the hardest bones, so therefore all other

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<v Speaker 3>bones are weaker. Like the teeth win over the bone box,

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<v Speaker 3>win over teeth? Did you both?

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<v Speaker 1>We got a new game called Bone Bone Teeth Rock.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's no wrap around, there's no paper.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, no, I my deck's not finished, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not near it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Three hours away from my deck. Yeah, I uh playing

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<v Speaker 3>start a new game this weekend that I will recommend.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't say that much about it because it's very

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<v Speaker 3>plot focused, but it's called Slay the Princess. It is

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<v Speaker 3>a choice based visual novel brand. You know travel You're

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<v Speaker 3>down the branching trees. Basically, you are set rather forcefully

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<v Speaker 3>outside of cabin and you were told that you have

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<v Speaker 3>to go inside and kill the princess that is in

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<v Speaker 3>the basement of the cabin. And whether you do that

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<v Speaker 3>or not, or how you decide to go about doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>There are lots of different endings, and so you're just

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<v Speaker 3>basically like.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like the Argentina span of video games. You

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<v Speaker 1>said choice, choice based visuals. Yeah, what is that? My

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<v Speaker 1>brain shut down?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, adventure novel Craig.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure we can't. We're not actually invoking the name

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<v Speaker 1>of that brand.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, verys even online audio.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm just I'm warning, I'm waving them off. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not actually invoking.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway. It's a good game. I recommend it. It's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to uh Philadelphia this weekend. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>two friends.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the All Star Game was last weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>I did know that I have one of my friends

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<v Speaker 1>who has a birthday very it is their birthday today,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, a birthday very close to mine. Her husband

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<v Speaker 1>through her surprise party and several people from out of

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<v Speaker 1>town came in. We were one of them, but I

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<v Speaker 1>went up. I had a lovely dinner at Tululu's Garden,

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenal place, highly recommend And really the reason I'm bringing

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<v Speaker 1>this up at all is on the way back, well,

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<v Speaker 1>there was some serendipity. We were at the hotel, had diners,

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<v Speaker 1>drive ins, and I've so on because there's nothing on

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<v Speaker 1>a Friday and an episode came on and they were

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<v Speaker 1>in Philly, and they were at a place called Mom

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<v Speaker 1>Mom's which does Polish food and specifically Perogi's and specifically

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<v Speaker 1>a cheese steak parogi because obviously it's yeah question. The

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<v Speaker 1>place had actually it aired in like August twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>so the place had so had they had obviously filmed

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<v Speaker 1>before the pandemic, but and it had closed in the

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<v Speaker 1>intervening time, but they had reopened like within a bar

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<v Speaker 1>slash brewery. So we ended up we did stop on

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<v Speaker 1>the way back and picked some up. And I have

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you it, maybe it's cliche as well, but

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<v Speaker 1>the the cheese steak Perrogi is unreal. We also got

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<v Speaker 1>like potato and cheese and stuff like that. We picked

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<v Speaker 1>up a bunch really really good. So that's my recommendation

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in around Philly. I really liked it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I've got. Let's go to our first segment, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in Love with Massachusetts. I'm in love with the radio

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<v Speaker 1>on Jeffrey explain it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the modern love. It's like Roadrunner by the Modern Lovers.

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<v Speaker 2>It is one of the seminal songs of the nineteen seventies, Craik.

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<v Speaker 1>I usually know seventies. I'm not. I'm not aware of Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have to check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, is it seminal since that like every team has

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<v Speaker 3>an ace?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Sure, okay, Wow, anyway, I don't want to you

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<v Speaker 2>shipping up to Boston on bored with it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's fine, that's fine. No, I appreciate, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>expanding the repertoire. Boston continues to win thirteen in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of games.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of games. It is a lot of games.

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<v Speaker 1>There are now two games above five hundred. They accomplished

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen in a row by sweeping.

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<v Speaker 2>The Rays, mopping the Rays.

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<v Speaker 1>Mopping the Rays. Excuse me, I'm feeling better. I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 1>better about my my previous sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very funny if the only team in the Alas

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't think past the Rays are going to pass

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<v Speaker 2>the Rais.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I don't. Did I say specifically the Red Sox?

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I think you said the Ras we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to finish fourth?

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, all right, fair enough. Yeah, I look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure I super believe in the Red Sox. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mostly don't believe in the race.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and like actually, like we've talked about you talked

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<v Speaker 2>about the red talks a couple weeks ago, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe like a week ago, at the beginning of this wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>Streak or whatever, they had won a bunch in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>And you look at I mean, I know they're still

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<v Speaker 2>they're starting Patrick Standival, which I don't fully understand, but

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<v Speaker 2>they do seem to have put together like a good

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<v Speaker 2>starting rotation at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, at the time, I remember talking about Peyton Totley,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Bennett, and Connelly Early who was on the IL,

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<v Speaker 1>and plus obviously Sunn and Gray's having a very good season. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and Ranger Suarez had gotten himself back on the walls

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<v Speaker 1>game since then, Connelly Early, I think at the time

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<v Speaker 2>That sally why Patrick Sandoval is here, which is.

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<v Speaker 1>Why Patrick Sandaval is here. But they have I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you get if.

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Sanderval is like your eighth starter, you're also like

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<v Speaker 2>not in the worst shape and.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, which is what he was designed to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely especially at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this team's just got a free Jake Bennett.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it is if at some point they

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<v Speaker 1>can get Gray Suarez early totally and Bennett, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a really.

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<v Speaker 2>Strong not even mentioning Garrett Crochet.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know his health status obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they do, or if they do,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not telling us so, right, well, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure is very optimistic about if.

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<v Speaker 1>You get Crochet and you get Crochet back and you

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<v Speaker 1>put totally in the bullpen as like a multi inning monster.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like you can get a Crochet back for

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs, right, like you're making them a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>starts before then and slot into that rotation again. That's

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<v Speaker 2>when you use you know, you can do Crochet Gray

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<v Speaker 2>Suarez and used totally or even like you don't really

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<v Speaker 2>even if you just use Crochet as like a prescribed

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<v Speaker 2>multi inning guy, right because he hasn't thrown much or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>like Andrew Miller, but not like as in saying as

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<v Speaker 2>he used Andrew Miller in the playoffs, right, right, But

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of role you do it with totally two obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing that's really changed here is they have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten one additional infielder hitting that is Caleb durban.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Caleb Durbin is almost back to league average. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what we talked about. He was I think even further.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was at like eighty nine last time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's now up to ninety six for ops plus. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson Contrares also just continues. He's it's not like he's

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<v Speaker 1>living off a first half and doing okay, he's get

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing better. I think he was in the one

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<v Speaker 1>fifties last time. He's now at one sixty two ops plus.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll actually getting on base at a decent clip now too,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you said two two home run games. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's like, I know, you're catching them

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<v Speaker 2>of doing that, right So, And look, they had to

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<v Speaker 1>But would you have thought they were capable of doing

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<v Speaker 2>More so than any of the other teams in the

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<v Speaker 2>AL Wildcard race? Okay, like more so than the ass

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<v Speaker 3>It is comforting that it's mostly the good players were

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<v Speaker 3>going on benders, like there is there is a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, seven hundred slugging Monasteria.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, but that that happens, right, Like yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's guys that you would think would I do think

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<v Speaker 2>They brought into my Jones and he's hit when they've

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<v Speaker 1>Might like he I could see him hidden off the monster.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sure he can do that. Well, that's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that's happened with Raphaela too, is he's figured out just

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<v Speaker 2>just figured out how to pull the ball off the monster,

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<v Speaker 2>which is like all he really needs to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the other part of it. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But these guys that they've kind of plugged in,

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<v Speaker 1>like none of them are going like you said, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not having like really benders, they're just Connor Wong has

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<v Speaker 1>a one fifteen opim plus. Yeah that's above above his head, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a league average. Anthony Siegler is so much better

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<v Speaker 2>than anything else they've had in the middle endfield this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, and then Sigler's at one oh nine, and like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it again. If you want to say it's over performance,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, still lapping good this month either, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not carrying the team, right, This isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't when Leoti Taveras had a nine hundred ops. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a difference to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but also how dare you?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, Masatakiyoshida has been better. I mean he's up to

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<v Speaker 1>over league average.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, I don't want to do the bit like we're

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<v Speaker 2>describing a five hundred team, but we're also like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because the way we kind of are right, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean this team now has a better

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<v Speaker 1>run deferential than the race. Yeah, by thirty runs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all of which I think they picked up in

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<v Speaker 2>this series. Fair.

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't know. I don't know what you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to say. I can't. I can't say this looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a great team. But I look at Tampa and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I should back off my my

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<v Speaker 1>previous proclamation. I know we do this. They have three hitters. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for if you count Ryan Valaide. I don't believe in

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan valaid.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets a lot, but a lot Okay, Well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone's gonna say something.

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<v Speaker 2>The you know, the yank usually didn't take advantage of

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<v Speaker 2>this either, because they lost to it at three ters. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure they said. Dam I'm gonna blame the

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<v Speaker 2>announcer at the Double A Stadium. Uh. But yeah, I look,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're going to make the playoffs now, the

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<v Speaker 2>Red Sox. The Red Sox. Yeah, okay, for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons. One, they're currently in the spot and playing well.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say they're there, They're there, They've gotten there.

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<v Speaker 2>And two, I think there's just like, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>be a certain quality of team to roll off a

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen game win streak period, and you know, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be an amazing team, but you have to

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<v Speaker 2>be I think, better than the Twins, Tigers, Orioles, Mariners, Rangers, Astros,

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<v Speaker 2>and anybody else you want me to name. Maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>Guardians and a White Sox too. Yeah, I said the Tigers,

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty six version of the Tigers at least.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah. Again, I think they're going to lose at

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<v Speaker 2>some point. Obviously, they're probably going to a losing streak

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<v Speaker 2>at some point, but I think their momentum will just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of take them to eighty five wins and that'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably be enough. They're also likely to buy at the deadline. Yeah. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have the easiest holes to fix, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know where they're getting a shortstop or getting rid

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<v Speaker 2>of Jaron DuRane.

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<v Speaker 3>At some point they just have to Yeah, shoved around

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<v Speaker 3>on the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>She's Roman Anthony coming back this year.

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<v Speaker 2>No one knows, Craig. Okay, we go over there every

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Some clarity would be appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he continues rehab from hand. Uh three hours ago

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<v Speaker 2>on Mas Live. Still no timeline on outfielder's return. So no, literally,

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<v Speaker 2>no one knows.

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<v Speaker 3>Greg, We're not going to resume hitting if they're still

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<v Speaker 3>discomfort in.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, Yeah, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, I don't mean as you're saying, like the

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<v Speaker 1>problem is, like where do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Get a shortstop Francisco indoor?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Got that that's the one that's available right now. So

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<v Speaker 2>I discussed this. We obviously we did a long Francisco

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<v Speaker 2>indoor trade segment on for your kids out there. But like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>if you unload the Christian Campbell contract and a bad

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<v Speaker 2>contract swop with for Lindor, do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Those aren't remotely contracts? No?

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<v Speaker 2>But it like I don't know what they value Lindor

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<v Speaker 2>as right now. Right like how underwater it's five and

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<v Speaker 2>one seventy left I think, or five to one sixty

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<v Speaker 2>plus whatever's left this year? Like if you think that

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<v Speaker 2>contracts fifty sixty million dollars underwater, and you can unload

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<v Speaker 2>the Campbell contract like it's one of the few get

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<v Speaker 2>something from the position. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, I don't. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>understand that's like how the math works.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know, I don't think it would just be

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<v Speaker 2>like a straight up like other stuff would have to

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<v Speaker 2>happen for each end of the teams to sell that deal, right, But.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I think and I don't think New York

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<v Speaker 1>would take it. To be clear, you'd have to, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, they have they take a product, have to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out Trevor's story.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think. Yeah, if the Red Sox are gonna

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<v Speaker 3>solve Shortstop through this deadline, they're gonna have to take

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<v Speaker 3>on money, right, They're gonna have to. Lindor is the

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<v Speaker 3>good obvious one. There are funnier ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh. You know, you look at Ezekiel Tovar and think, well,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe he deserves to play somewhere else he's he's.

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<v Speaker 2>It also definitely hit balls off the Green Monster. That

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<v Speaker 2>is a thing he can do.

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<v Speaker 1>But also just do what he's doing in Colorado in Boston,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you've solved nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sure, but also your Trevor story is you know

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<v Speaker 3>there The funniest outcome though, would be Willia Donna's Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, I'm listening. I mean the Giants have shown

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<v Speaker 3>there absolutely willing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Giants did them a solid by taking a

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<v Speaker 2>bad contract on their hands.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think that I am listening on that. Yeah, underwater,

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<v Speaker 1>And also he might just be better there. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>also actually being a contributor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's like it's a better part. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a better park to pull balls in the air exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>like ninety eight miles an hour, right than it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, way way wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait way better. Yeah, most are, but especially in Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Look you can try to do you know, the Astros

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<v Speaker 2>have faded a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I doesn't say paina is probably is probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's more of like a traditional by trade. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>they have a deep farm system that they can I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's got what two years left after this one

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe it's just one is it's just one year

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<v Speaker 2>of control, but either way they can.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think yes, Pini is a free agent.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty okay, so it's one and a half years. That's

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<v Speaker 2>like a fairly straightforward. We give you to top one

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<v Speaker 2>on one prospects that we have for a year and

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<v Speaker 2>a half of Jeremy Panya if they want to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>if either side wants to do that, Boston probably should

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<v Speaker 2>want to do that. The Astros, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>the Astros.

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<v Speaker 3>Also should probably wants to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But probably yeah, Like they have a crowded infield too, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like he's not going to extend there.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop, I mean do that.

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<v Speaker 2>They could They've been playing Korea there when he's been

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<v Speaker 2>hurt this year and even hurt her, like they might

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<v Speaker 2>just do that. K is also hurt at the moment. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Pain is healthy, so he's playing shortstop. But when they

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<v Speaker 2>were both like they were doing some weird stuff when

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<v Speaker 2>they were both healthy. I don't know if they were

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<v Speaker 2>both fully healthy at any point in time. Yeah, at

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<v Speaker 2>the same point in time this season.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean, this is this is the thing

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<v Speaker 1>you run into, you know. I keep saying this, but

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<v Speaker 1>up and down this deadline is like, Okay, the Reds

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<v Speaker 1>are out of it and are sellers. You're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>Eli Dela Cruz.

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<v Speaker 2>No, right, like they've made they're basically signaled their only trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Oils are out of it. You're not getting Bobby Wett, sure, right.

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<v Speaker 2>but you might, like theoretical think, so you're not getting

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<v Speaker 2>zach Netto from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting right, this is the problem you're not getting and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know you're not getting Jacob Wilson. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's helpful, but like you know, the teams

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<v Speaker 1>that are out of it are almost.

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<v Speaker 2>Specifically signed to long term contracts in a lot of cases.

424
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean, like so, so then you do

425
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<v Speaker 1>get to Ezekieltovar and Francis and I don't think.

426
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<v Speaker 2>I think, I don't think he's getting traded at the deadline.

427
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<v Speaker 2>But like Boston is one of the teams that just

428
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<v Speaker 2>capable of making this work and wanting Lindor to play

429
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<v Speaker 2>every day.

430
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<v Speaker 1>They were so yeah, I mean they really would have

431
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<v Speaker 1>to solve story, and I don't know how you solve story.

432
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you just gotta eat the money at this point, right, he.

433
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<v Speaker 3>Saw a story by not thinking about him af Again.

434
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<v Speaker 2>It's only a year and a half, Like you can

435
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<v Speaker 2>DFA now, like you've given him I think enough time

436
00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:07.599
<v Speaker 2>to be like, buddy, it's not working out. Here's your

437
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<v Speaker 2>next year and a half of paychecks.

438
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<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah. So aside from shortstop, where where are you?

439
00:23:14.640 --> 00:23:17.400
<v Speaker 2>They could they could use a better catcher. Again, that's

440
00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:21.359
<v Speaker 2>the similar problem to shortstop. I think they'll add a

441
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<v Speaker 2>reliever to right handed bat. Right you can always use

442
00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:28.920
<v Speaker 2>a right handed outfield bat, you know, like Tyrone Taylor

443
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<v Speaker 2>or something.

444
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<v Speaker 1>They haven't. I mean, well, they don't have a lot

445
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<v Speaker 1>of outfielders because.

446
00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:36.799
<v Speaker 2>They're right but they are most of are left handed too,

447
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<v Speaker 2>like just as a.

448
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true, that's true.

449
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<v Speaker 2>He's a good late game defensive. They really need a

450
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<v Speaker 2>late game defensive Caddy with Rafaela and brak you but

451
00:23:47.039 --> 00:23:49.880
<v Speaker 2>he could fomp him for Duran. But he's raised a

452
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<v Speaker 2>better left fielder than Duran is. But you know, stuff

453
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<v Speaker 2>like that, and they don't have to do much. It's

454
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<v Speaker 2>which is a weird thing to say for a game

455
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<v Speaker 2>that team is two hundred two over five hundred. Like

456
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<v Speaker 2>they need their pictures. Like the Suarez injury, I don't

457
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<v Speaker 2>think it's gonna be super long term. They need their

458
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<v Speaker 2>pitching to get healthy. They and Anthony get healthy, which

459
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<v Speaker 2>might not happen. And like they just they may just

460
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<v Speaker 2>have launched now, right, Like I don't remember what I

461
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<v Speaker 2>said in our Ale East preview, but I've always liked

462
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<v Speaker 2>this roster and this team I think more relative to

463
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<v Speaker 2>the Orioles and the Jays and even the Yankees at times,

464
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<v Speaker 2>Yankees especially without Aaron Judge. So I'm not surprised by this. Well,

465
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<v Speaker 2>they can do the second basement too, but it's got

466
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<v Speaker 2>similar problems to short stuff.

467
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<v Speaker 3>They've got so many guys who could play second base.

468
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<v Speaker 2>They do, but you don't really want them, any of

469
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<v Speaker 2>them too. I mean they again, they traded for the

470
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<v Speaker 2>entire like third base second base room of the Brewers,

471
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<v Speaker 2>and they're all like Mona, they're all on the roster

472
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<v Speaker 2>right now.

473
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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think this is just like an eighty five,

475
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<v Speaker 2>eighty seven win team now and that's probably enough. And

476
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<v Speaker 2>then you just you know, you take your chances in

477
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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs. It's not possibly only sixty in back of

478
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<v Speaker 2>the race, like it's not possible you can catch them.

479
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<v Speaker 1>But that's right, Jeff, Yeah, I'm just saying that's right.

480
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<v Speaker 1>That is Yeah, Orioles are only eight games. Uh yeah, No,

481
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<v Speaker 1>I don't yeah, I don't know. I do think of

482
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<v Speaker 1>the ones that we mentioned, like Mike Calgarcia might be

483
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<v Speaker 1>the most interesting option if you really if you think

484
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<v Speaker 1>the Royals are desperate together, I don't think they are.

485
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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they are. And he has it like

486
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<v Speaker 2>I think you could still. I think he's a good

487
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<v Speaker 2>enough third baseman, and he has played shortstop before. You

488
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<v Speaker 2>could just slide him back over. But it's also not

489
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<v Speaker 2>a we're playing at second, we're playing a second.

490
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<v Speaker 1>He can play second too, and you need help there too,

491
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<v Speaker 1>So I think that would be such a such a

492
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<v Speaker 1>great fit in terms of even just getting average offense

493
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<v Speaker 1>and good defense. Or you can move Durban over the

494
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<v Speaker 1>second to be clear, like, yeah, you hear the either one.

495
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<v Speaker 2>You're still fixing shortstop, but you're not, No.

496
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<v Speaker 1>But you're fixing something else in the meantime, right, And

497
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<v Speaker 1>I do think you, like you said, I think you

498
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<v Speaker 1>could play Garcia short.

499
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's just gonna he's got such a cheap extension,

500
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<v Speaker 2>Like they're gonna want a lot.

501
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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's the thing. Well, but as you said, they

502
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<v Speaker 1>have the farm, you'd have.

503
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<v Speaker 2>To have the farm. Yeah, but do you really want

504
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<v Speaker 2>to empty the farm for a cost? Control of MIKEL.

505
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<v Speaker 2>Garcia is the other I don't know part of it.

506
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, it's it's a little NAT's

507
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>picking up Adam eating yeah right, yeah, where it's like

508
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<v Speaker 1>the players good and also.

509
00:26:31.319 --> 00:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Trade right too, But that makes it.

510
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<v Speaker 1>A lot easier to eat story right, Like it's it's

511
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<v Speaker 1>harder to eat story and trade for WILLI or lindor yeah,

512
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<v Speaker 1>either one. They're both around once you know.

513
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, either one versus paying the price and prospects and

514
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<v Speaker 5>then you know, eating the story contract while bringing in

515
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<v Speaker 5>someone on a cheap deal like that, and you might

516
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<v Speaker 5>need to go cheap because I don't know what.

517
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<v Speaker 2>Boston's yeah budget is, yeah budget.

518
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Is At this point, I don't remember where I was

519
00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:11.079
<v Speaker 1>preseason on Boston. I knew last year. I kept saying

520
00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:13.160
<v Speaker 1>this could be the most complete team by the end

521
00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:15.480
<v Speaker 1>of the season, and then I think I was probably

522
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<v Speaker 1>out heading into the season because I'm out on Breslo.

523
00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. And it's not that it only makes

524
00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:24.400
<v Speaker 1>bad moves. I just don't. I don't know what to

525
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<v Speaker 1>do with with him.

526
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't like that. There's so many even more

527
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<v Speaker 2>so than I think like the medicine starts, there's more

528
00:27:36.920 --> 00:27:41.480
<v Speaker 2>intervening factors in his decision making in Boston, right, Like,

529
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<v Speaker 2>I think for the most part, Sterns has just like

530
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:49.279
<v Speaker 2>made the moves he's made and they have it worked

531
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<v Speaker 2>out as well. But you can like see the process

532
00:27:51.519 --> 00:27:54.160
<v Speaker 2>involved in all of them, whether you're or not. Like

533
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:58.480
<v Speaker 2>with Breslo, it's like, okay, even going back to the beginning,

534
00:27:59.000 --> 00:28:02.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, before he had to trade Devers or reason

535
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:04.720
<v Speaker 2>he had to trade Devers is because they kind of

536
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:09.960
<v Speaker 2>mishandled the Bregman stuff, the Bregman endeavors right, kind of

537
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:13.759
<v Speaker 2>a little bit yeah, and you know, and like the

538
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:16.440
<v Speaker 2>one of the things you hear about Preslo specifically, and

539
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:19.000
<v Speaker 2>keep in mind, this is Boston people leaking to the

540
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<v Speaker 2>Boston media. So it's it's you know this, it's knives

541
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:24.559
<v Speaker 2>out there at all times.

542
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:25.559
<v Speaker 3>You know.

543
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.240
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I'm very Machiavellian front office and media environment

544
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 2>is that he doesn't he's not a good communicator, right,

545
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:35.839
<v Speaker 2>whether it's with Rafaiel Devers or with other people in

546
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:40.519
<v Speaker 2>the front office or whatever. Now, some of that could

547
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:43.119
<v Speaker 2>be they don't like what he's communicating because that front

548
00:28:43.160 --> 00:28:45.680
<v Speaker 2>office has had, you know, has survived through like six

549
00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 2>different gms at this point, but you know, you make

550
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:51.960
<v Speaker 2>the Devors trade, and like people were upside of the

551
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Devas trade. It was the most that was one of

552
00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:57.240
<v Speaker 2>the best trades he could have made. Like he got

553
00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:59.799
<v Speaker 2>rid of all of that money before it went really bad.

554
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:02.160
<v Speaker 2>And I know he's got a one. I haven't looked

555
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:04.480
<v Speaker 2>at it. They round a one twenty ops plus.

556
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>We didn't, We didn't. I meant to bring it up

557
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:10.039
<v Speaker 1>and we didn't right at the right at the quote

558
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:11.799
<v Speaker 1>unquote halfway mark at the All Star break.

559
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:14.680
<v Speaker 2>But like you're so you're still playing a lot, but

560
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:15.160
<v Speaker 2>it was.

561
00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.599
<v Speaker 1>It was one twenty six, which was.

562
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:19.759
<v Speaker 2>But that's a lot of money for a one twenty

563
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:23.279
<v Speaker 2>ops plus the age period with a lot still to

564
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:25.640
<v Speaker 2>come for a guy that's faded to a one twenty

565
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:28.759
<v Speaker 2>ops plus the h and like they got some interesting

566
00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>guys back and then obviously flipped Kyle Harrison in a

567
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:35.720
<v Speaker 2>deal that looked really bad and now looks less bad

568
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:39.480
<v Speaker 2>because Durban's heading. And they flipped James Tibbs for Dustin May,

569
00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:41.880
<v Speaker 2>which didn't work out at all, and like Tips is fine,

570
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Like I know, like Tips.

571
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Is, yeah, but May was bad and May was.

572
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Bad and yeah, yeah, and it's just like it's there's

573
00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:58.079
<v Speaker 2>not like a clear through line to any of this.

574
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:03.359
<v Speaker 2>It's just he's making moves. It does feel like, look,

575
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:06.319
<v Speaker 2>it feels like, Yeah, that's a good way to put it.

576
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:07.960
<v Speaker 1>But it's like constant over steel.

577
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:16.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't Yeah, I don't know what their deadline

578
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:17.599
<v Speaker 2>looks like. I think they're gonna buy because they have

579
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<v Speaker 2>to buy, and they will buy. They will buy.

580
00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 1>As always, the question is what are you able to buy?

581
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>At this point, the shelves are empty, so it's it's

582
00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:34.519
<v Speaker 1>which doesn't look like he has the ability to get

583
00:30:34.559 --> 00:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>creative like you, like you said, and the creativity might

584
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 1>be a lot more on the financial side of things.

585
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>But I think we're gonna I I keep saying, I

586
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:47.039
<v Speaker 1>think we're gonna get a lot of weird deals. Like

587
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.599
<v Speaker 1>feels that the players don't always make sense, but it

588
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:51.240
<v Speaker 1>makes sense on the back end of things.

589
00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 2>And it's there's gonna be like, there's gonna be like,

590
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:57.559
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Red Sox are gonna do this

591
00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:00.359
<v Speaker 2>for obvious reason. There's gonna be like another weird Trevor

592
00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Rodgers type trade, right, somebody is gonna trade for a

593
00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:07.160
<v Speaker 2>picture that doesn't kind of has a little bit of control.

594
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:08.480
<v Speaker 2>It's like a project.

595
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>But oh, I mean that will happen somewhere.

596
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<v Speaker 2>For a team that's like trying to compete, like the Guardians.

597
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Maybe not the Guardians, but like the the Cubs will

598
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>do it. Maybe. I know they just got Aaron Civilly,

599
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:30.119
<v Speaker 2>but we can't do when they did they acquired Aaron Civilly, Right,

600
00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:35.599
<v Speaker 2>that's not that kind of trade. I don't think you're

601
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:37.200
<v Speaker 2>faxing Aaron Civilly at this point.

602
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:41.759
<v Speaker 1>But let's let's move on to our second topic because

603
00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.359
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of more it's related. Yeah, oh baby, baby,

604
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:50.039
<v Speaker 1>it's a wild card. In other wild card news, in

605
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the al as I mentioned, Baltimore have won another three games.

606
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>They're up to seven in a row. You said there,

607
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:00.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't see Baltimore as being capable of

608
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:02.880
<v Speaker 1>doing what what Boston has done, but they're more than half.

609
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:04.440
<v Speaker 2>They've been halfway there. I don't think they're.

610
00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Gonna get that. I don't think they're gonna get there either,

611
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>but they have. They've reeled off seven in a row.

612
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>They are now two games under five hundred. I mean,

613
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.640
<v Speaker 1>this is the game they've generally been playing, is they've

614
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:18.160
<v Speaker 1>been playing footsy with four games under five hundred.

615
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:18.440
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

616
00:32:18.519 --> 00:32:21.359
<v Speaker 1>They like to get three to four games under and

617
00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>then lose a bunch in a row and then win

618
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>some in a row and whatever. They're now two mm

619
00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:29.519
<v Speaker 1>hm a run differential of minus thirteen. So if they've

620
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>just just about earned it.

621
00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:31.519
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

622
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Jackson Holiday's line in Chare July two thirty one, four

623
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:43.240
<v Speaker 3>sixty nine. He has walked in almost thirty percent of

624
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:44.160
<v Speaker 3>his play appearances.

625
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:48.079
<v Speaker 1>This is Miguel Vargas with a broken hands from the training.

626
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:51.279
<v Speaker 2>It does what if Mark Belhorn had no power?

627
00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:55.039
<v Speaker 3>I like that The Kobe Mayo has a four h

628
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:58.200
<v Speaker 3>nine ISO in July and Jackson Holiday is a thirty eight.

629
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:01.559
<v Speaker 3>They're right next to each other on the Kobe Mayo.

630
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Man, I don't know. He hits home runs and they

631
00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:11.559
<v Speaker 1>are absolute bombs and then he does not do anything.

632
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<v Speaker 2>I mean they have four I'll give him credit for

633
00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Blaze Alexander too. They have five regulars with an OPS

634
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<v Speaker 2>plus over one hundred two. I mean, Besida was about

635
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:24.240
<v Speaker 2>to go on the IL, so two of them are

636
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<v Speaker 2>going to be yea.

637
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, finally with his hand.

638
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:32.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, finally with his hand, so like yeah, like again.

639
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:34.799
<v Speaker 2>Ped Alonzo has been their best hitter. Pet Alonzo has

640
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:36.839
<v Speaker 2>an eight or nine ops plus, which is both fine

641
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>and also more than you want f ops one which

642
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:45.279
<v Speaker 2>is yes, which is both you know, fine, but also

643
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:47.400
<v Speaker 2>less than you want from both Pee Alonzo, and you're

644
00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:48.079
<v Speaker 2>number one hitter.

645
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Kobe Mayo in the last twenty eight days. This

646
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>is only thirteen games to forty four, three, eleven, five,

647
00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:58.279
<v Speaker 1>eighty five.

648
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Sure he's going ta Oscar mode.

649
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, yeah, that's basically I mean, honestly more more slugging.

650
00:34:05.559 --> 00:34:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Even when I was when I was talking about the

651
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.559
<v Speaker 3>Red Sox and having the guys that are good hitting, well,

652
00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:14.280
<v Speaker 3>how comforting that is. The Orioles are currently getting the

653
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:17.320
<v Speaker 3>ninety sevens looking out of Tyler O'Neill, which you cannot

654
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:18.159
<v Speaker 3>count on tomorrow.

655
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>No, no, but he does do that.

656
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:21.760
<v Speaker 3>He does do that.

657
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.360
<v Speaker 1>He has also so he does that and then he's

658
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:25.679
<v Speaker 1>bad and hurt.

659
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:30.679
<v Speaker 3>We've hit week three, right, and he will stop immediately.

660
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Yeah, losing the sios and Alexander's already on the il. Yeah,

661
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:43.440
<v Speaker 1>that's two of your five hitters and you're entering raised territory, right,

662
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Like the pitching has been better, Yeah, the.

663
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Pitching hasn't better.

664
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Still, the best picture.

665
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:57.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, Kyle Bradish has been turning in some like

666
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:02.280
<v Speaker 1>legit Kyle Bradish starts yep, yeah.

667
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you want to sign up for

668
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<v Speaker 2>that for five more years, but they do so.

669
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<v Speaker 1>They is British Unascension, bos got the the the wow. Okay,

670
00:35:12.559 --> 00:35:14.559
<v Speaker 1>all right, yep.

671
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<v Speaker 3>They the Brandon Young of July that's walking to nine

672
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:25.000
<v Speaker 3>is a tenable branding though he was like basically two

673
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:27.039
<v Speaker 3>and a half. If you give him up to three

674
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:29.199
<v Speaker 3>strikeouts per walk, you can that work.

675
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:31.639
<v Speaker 2>He's not quite there yet, and nobody, nobody on this

676
00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 2>team is over two and a half, so right, Yeah,

677
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.360
<v Speaker 2>it's a weird thing. They they have gotten pretty good

678
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:41.199
<v Speaker 2>pitching and it's not like Shane boss is a four

679
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:43.559
<v Speaker 2>point one nine. Ra Rodgers is a four point two eighty.

680
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.679
<v Speaker 2>Ara has been very good recently. But again, none of

681
00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:50.280
<v Speaker 2>these are like out of the realm. Maybe Brandon Young

682
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:51.719
<v Speaker 2>is a little bit, but like not out of the

683
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 2>realm of what you would expect. Right, these are guys

684
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:56.599
<v Speaker 2>that are all around league average twenty percent better than

685
00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:00.840
<v Speaker 2>league average. It's not crazy, but like they're none of

686
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:02.440
<v Speaker 2>they don't strike anybody.

687
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:06.039
<v Speaker 3>Out right, Yeah, this team needs to not walk people. Yeah,

688
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:08.400
<v Speaker 3>you're never gonna get more than a strikeout in a

689
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:10.280
<v Speaker 3>so you have to keep the walks.

690
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:12.679
<v Speaker 2>In, right, Like Bradish has their highest strikeout rate, he

691
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:14.920
<v Speaker 2>also has their highest walk rate and highest home run

692
00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 2>He's giving a home run per nine, which again, that's

693
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:18.599
<v Speaker 2>all Like this is Kyle Bradish we're talking about, right,

694
00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Like none of this is super unusual. But like they

695
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:26.239
<v Speaker 2>really badly do need a top of the rotation starter

696
00:36:26.360 --> 00:36:29.519
<v Speaker 2>of some sort, and I don't think that's going to

697
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:35.360
<v Speaker 2>be available for them at the deadline. Like they need

698
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:37.679
<v Speaker 2>a game one anyway, I guess British for starting when

699
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:41.119
<v Speaker 2>they need like a game, they need a playoffs starter.

700
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:42.840
<v Speaker 2>They need a playoff starter and like not the guy

701
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:44.360
<v Speaker 2>that you're just kind of sticking in in game three

702
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:49.320
<v Speaker 2>or four either, Like I don't know, Like who is

703
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Freddy Peralta that guy? Are they? Like I think I

704
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:55.840
<v Speaker 2>don't know if Freddy Perrault is that guy either, certainly

705
00:36:55.880 --> 00:36:58.239
<v Speaker 2>not this not this year, but he might be the

706
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:01.199
<v Speaker 2>closest you're able to. I mean, they could do like

707
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 2>a Trevor Rodgers thing again and trade for Red Detmers, right,

708
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Like John Mazzeliak has said he's going to try to

709
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:10.400
<v Speaker 2>trade reds and yeah, we're trading trade.

710
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:12.800
<v Speaker 1>To tell you, Jeffrey, I am still very beholden to

711
00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:15.199
<v Speaker 1>read debts as a cub ever since you mentioned, yeah,

712
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:16.239
<v Speaker 1>it is the.

713
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:20.079
<v Speaker 2>Perfect we're trading for fancy Kyle Kate Povich, that's what

714
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:20.559
<v Speaker 2>we're doing.

715
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, is he going to try and trade

716
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Jose Soriano? Riano might give them a little more than

717
00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:31.039
<v Speaker 1>even Yeah, not not to I'm not trying to put pots.

718
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I think they're sure very comparable pictures kind of, but like.

719
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Has a little more control and he fits very well

720
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:42.880
<v Speaker 2>in the guy a half years Yeah, are they? I

721
00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:46.199
<v Speaker 2>thought I thought that had last For some reason.

722
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:49.119
<v Speaker 3>I think the difference is that Soriano has never had

723
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.920
<v Speaker 3>the slump that had. Now how much of the Netmark

724
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:54.440
<v Speaker 3>slump was, you know, the fault of NETMS is.

725
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Open or the fault of the angels. But like, he

726
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.000
<v Speaker 2>does fit. He feels fits in real well on that

727
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Bradish range where he strikes out a guy in

728
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.960
<v Speaker 2>anning walks a little too many and you're on front.

729
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I do. Maybe that is why I feel.

730
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.079
<v Speaker 2>I think he's like, look, I think he legitimately can

731
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 2>start game two for this team, and you'd be yeah, yeah, okay,

732
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:19.840
<v Speaker 2>right now, I don't like what were they trading for him?

733
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:22.360
<v Speaker 2>It gets a little more complicated, like they don't again,

734
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:25.760
<v Speaker 2>that's a lot of cheap control. They don't really have

735
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.440
<v Speaker 2>like that. You know, Nate George has been hurt this year.

736
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to pronounce his name, but uh

737
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:33.360
<v Speaker 2>to zero who made our.

738
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he's on our top fifty.

739
00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:38.960
<v Speaker 2>He was literally number fifty. Like he's neat, but it's

740
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:43.719
<v Speaker 2>also kind of a weird profile.

741
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:48.679
<v Speaker 1>But no, like he's had one of these starting picture.

742
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for people who are looking Joseph jiuah jeruah, I think, yeah,

743
00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:58.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing. Yeah, open to correction. Yeah, please let me.

744
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Know, Like I don't if you can only headline of

745
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Soriano trade for you and like all there, like the

746
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:08.920
<v Speaker 2>guys that they would have inventory to trade that are

747
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:12.159
<v Speaker 2>reasonably far away from the majors, they all traded for

748
00:39:12.199 --> 00:39:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Shamee bas in the offseason.

749
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>If it's a straight Polish pronunciation, it might be Jerva essentially. Yeah,

750
00:39:20.599 --> 00:39:23.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

751
00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

752
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:27.559
<v Speaker 1>If he jack you can trade recently drafted guys right,

753
00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 1>so that maybe there's I don't know, but also I

754
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:36.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know what what John Mozela is at this point.

755
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they need everything so well.

756
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Right, but I get I guess I even mean in

757
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:44.840
<v Speaker 1>like RO five, like could you sell him on some

758
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:50.440
<v Speaker 1>of the guys that like if he's I don't know,

759
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:52.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to be mean, but like if he's

760
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:54.280
<v Speaker 1>three years behind.

761
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:56.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like that's.

762
00:39:55.519 --> 00:39:56.599
<v Speaker 1>Why they replaced him.

763
00:39:56.719 --> 00:39:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's not even that they need a lot like

764
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:02.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe he goes for quantity over quality. Here is because

765
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.000
<v Speaker 2>their system is so barren and it's such a you know,

766
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:07.039
<v Speaker 2>you give the next guy three or four bites at

767
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:08.599
<v Speaker 2>the apple right.

768
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Right, that would not be great for the fans of

769
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the Angels to be.

770
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:15.480
<v Speaker 2>No, but you can get like do you get like

771
00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Trey Gibson, I guess who's like pretty much Julie Ready,

772
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Like there's right, who's right there? Yeah, there's the other guys.

773
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.039
<v Speaker 2>Like this is like we've done the mid season fifty.

774
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:26.280
<v Speaker 2>They didn't have a lot of guys on the mid

775
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:29.239
<v Speaker 2>season fifty. You're now asking me, like, who are the

776
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:33.199
<v Speaker 2>other Orioles prospects for a list? I did like, well, no,

777
00:40:33.239 --> 00:40:34.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to Oh, I like, I'm pulling it

778
00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:37.519
<v Speaker 2>up so I can remind myself. You know, you could

779
00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.639
<v Speaker 2>trade you could probably trade Dylan Deavers. Like, I don't

780
00:40:40.920 --> 00:40:44.400
<v Speaker 2>off the major league roster too. Like again, I don't

781
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.639
<v Speaker 2>know exactly what they want. M that's like how they're

782
00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:50.800
<v Speaker 2>going to you know, what they want in terms of

783
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:52.760
<v Speaker 2>guys coming back, in terms of timeline, in terms of

784
00:40:52.800 --> 00:40:55.000
<v Speaker 2>quantity versus quality, et cetera, et cetera.

785
00:40:55.599 --> 00:40:59.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean like Luis de Leon has been pretty bad. Yeah,

786
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.960
<v Speaker 1>missing a lot of bats, but it's been pretty bad.

787
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:06.239
<v Speaker 2>I think Nesta Herman has been fine. I've been checked

788
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 2>he was and I'm super recently.

789
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

790
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is not a particularly good system at this point.

791
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I still I feel like people I do not with

792
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:25.440
<v Speaker 1>everyone hurt. Yeah, okay, but if if Samuel Basaillo is healthy,

793
00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:29.639
<v Speaker 1>I think I still probably prefer the Orioles to the

794
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.039
<v Speaker 1>to the race. I really do.

795
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:36.360
<v Speaker 2>It's Craig. There are like sixty five games left in

796
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:38.000
<v Speaker 2>the season. They are eight behind.

797
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:41.800
<v Speaker 1>No, no, I'm not saying an eight game deaf. I'm

798
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:46.400
<v Speaker 1>saying roster rosters straight up from this point forward. Okay,

799
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:49.119
<v Speaker 1>the Orioles have absolutely been worse. The race have absolutely

800
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:49.559
<v Speaker 1>been better.

801
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Like the other thing is, I think if you combine

802
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:54.559
<v Speaker 2>the rosters, the race have the two best pitchers and

803
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:55.880
<v Speaker 2>the two best position players.

804
00:41:58.320 --> 00:41:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Well certainly Kim and Her. I mean like.

805
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Randa too, I think is better than anybody on them.

806
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I think I said, I don't know if I said

807
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.119
<v Speaker 1>this on our pod or or effectively wild last week,

808
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.159
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not gonna understand Jonathan Roda. I just think

809
00:42:10.960 --> 00:42:14.159
<v Speaker 1>it's not but it does. I don't something doesn't compute.

810
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:19.039
<v Speaker 1>That's okay, but yeah, sure fine. I also like I

811
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:23.280
<v Speaker 1>understand Gunner Henderson. I don't understand what's happened Gunner.

812
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Henderson, but I kind of just I think for the

813
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:27.920
<v Speaker 2>balance of the season, you might just have to accept

814
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:28.880
<v Speaker 2>this is what he is. Right.

815
00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess so, but I'm kind of just if

816
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:37.840
<v Speaker 1>he is getting I will also know that before we

817
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:43.800
<v Speaker 1>depart the Orioles Rico Garcia has been a revelation in

818
00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:47.599
<v Speaker 1>the in the Bullpen, and Mario Delgado wins Or wrote

819
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:49.559
<v Speaker 1>about him, and so I think you should say it

820
00:42:49.559 --> 00:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>was a good article. I advise everyone to give it

821
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:56.719
<v Speaker 1>a read. That went up on Friday last week, so

822
00:42:56.920 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 1>you might you might have to go back in his archive.

823
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:01.000
<v Speaker 2>And before we depart from Rais, I just want to

824
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:06.199
<v Speaker 2>update everyone on conversation from many months ago. Nick Martinez

825
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:07.199
<v Speaker 2>still under a three R.

826
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can't like. This is the this is the thing. Yeah,

827
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't like. I just I don't buy it.

828
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.400
<v Speaker 2>Yep, sixty two strikeouts and one hundred and five innings

829
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:18.360
<v Speaker 2>creg Yeah, that's the part that the eighties back.

830
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, you spin me right around. You're not wrong

831
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:24.159
<v Speaker 1>about You're not wrong about the I.

832
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Think the Rais. Look, I get I've said this all along.

833
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:29.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Rays are a great team, but

834
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:31.039
<v Speaker 2>I think the Rays are might just be the best

835
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:31.800
<v Speaker 2>human spasion.

836
00:43:32.199 --> 00:43:36.199
<v Speaker 1>They might. They might. I guess I will just continue

837
00:43:36.239 --> 00:43:40.800
<v Speaker 1>to struggle with it all. But you're right. I mean,

838
00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:45.599
<v Speaker 1>Rasmuson and McClanahan are better than, yep, anything the Orioles

839
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:46.360
<v Speaker 1>have on staff.

840
00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Imagine the Orioles having a picture with a five and

841
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:51.440
<v Speaker 2>three quarters strikeout to walk ratio.

842
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

843
00:43:55.639 --> 00:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Elsewhere in the wild Card we'll go to the National League. Yeah,

844
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:05.079
<v Speaker 1>the Pittsburgh Pirates, Jeffers. Yeah, four games over five hundred.

845
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes frisky comes to you in a.

846
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Three way tie for the third wild card in the

847
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:18.000
<v Speaker 1>National League alongside the Cardinals, and the Marlins have the

848
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:22.480
<v Speaker 1>best run differential of the three teams. They are seven

849
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and three in their last ten. The others are four

850
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:29.039
<v Speaker 1>and six. The Marlins have lost six in a row.

851
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they were ten over they are now four over.

852
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:36.320
<v Speaker 2>That's how that that's how that mass that happens.

853
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:36.000
<v Speaker 4>Ye.

854
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Look, they played well against the Guardians, obviously, I just

855
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:45.639
<v Speaker 2>don't believe it.

856
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:51.280
<v Speaker 3>They've got fun Jared Jones back now the early early

857
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:55.440
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five Jared Jones, you know, striking out thirteen

858
00:44:55.480 --> 00:44:58.159
<v Speaker 3>for nine. How long it's gonna last? It didn't last

859
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:05.039
<v Speaker 3>last time. But the pitching has been good. The pitching

860
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:09.239
<v Speaker 3>is like all the strikeouts that the Ools don't get. Uh. Well,

861
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:11.679
<v Speaker 3>I think I think the thing about the Pirates that

862
00:45:11.679 --> 00:45:14.360
<v Speaker 3>that is underrated is that the just stop playing. Marcelo's

863
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:19.440
<v Speaker 3>in But I think he started like four games this month. Uh,

864
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:25.159
<v Speaker 3>and they're better because he's not hitting. Yeah, it's easy

865
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:26.559
<v Speaker 3>to make a team better if you want to.

866
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Two of their three best hitters are also on the

867
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:33.960
<v Speaker 2>IL with on Neil Creiz and Sfencer Horwitz.

868
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Right, Spencer Horwitz just always yeah better.

869
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:41.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's having a legitimately good season. Usually it's like, hey,

870
00:45:41.519 --> 00:45:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Spencer Horace is one of their best hitters. He has

871
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:46.400
<v Speaker 2>a one to twelve ops plus, but he's like it's thirty.

872
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:49.559
<v Speaker 1>It's very limited. I meant to three hundred appear he's

873
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:54.159
<v Speaker 1>played more. Yeah, yeah, this is you know, we'll see

874
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:57.199
<v Speaker 1>what Jacob Gonzales does for them. He finally got a

875
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>hit for them down a home run. Yeah. A lot

876
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>of this recent stretch has been as Merlin Valdez. Yeah,

877
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:11.320
<v Speaker 1>we're thirty one, thirty one games in. Now he's at

878
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.519
<v Speaker 1>three oh five three seventy seven, seven thirty three.

879
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, well home runs in thirty one game. Look, he

880
00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:19.599
<v Speaker 2>can do.

881
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:22.480
<v Speaker 1>This is this aristutis acutit.

882
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.199
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say this is probably aristetis.

883
00:46:25.199 --> 00:46:26.079
<v Speaker 3>Walking a little more.

884
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:27.519
<v Speaker 2>He's walking a little more.

885
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Like it's a look, it's a fair amount. I mean, yeah,

886
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:36.679
<v Speaker 1>three oh five, batting average, three seventy three. Oh, that's

887
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:37.360
<v Speaker 1>just fine.

888
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:39.360
<v Speaker 3>It is not just everything.

889
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:40.400
<v Speaker 1>That's actually a lot.

890
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:44.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's also whiffing at a lot of things.

891
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:48.119
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, he's got forty four strikeouts in one hundred

892
00:46:48.239 --> 00:46:49.760
<v Speaker 1>eighteen Polint appearances.

893
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Look, he can like it is very difficult for any

894
00:46:56.559 --> 00:47:02.360
<v Speaker 2>player to do have this kind of damage on contact

895
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:06.920
<v Speaker 2>plus swing and miss combination over an extended period of time.

896
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:10.639
<v Speaker 2>I belts might be one of the guys that can

897
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:13.280
<v Speaker 2>do it. I'm not saying he's going to, but I

898
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:15.800
<v Speaker 2>believe this a little more than AIRTDI is a keino.

899
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:20.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah well, and also Aristeta is a kino. Like we're

900
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 1>even talking thirty one games at this point, like.

901
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:29.840
<v Speaker 2>His yeah games, right, Like it's one o eight ninety

902
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:33.800
<v Speaker 2>a TV with a fifteen percent pulled fly ball, right, yeah,

903
00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:36.360
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to make a lot of contact doing that.

904
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:39.679
<v Speaker 2>And to be clear, it's sixty six in zone and

905
00:47:39.719 --> 00:47:42.760
<v Speaker 2>a forty six whiff against secondaries and a forty one

906
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:44.440
<v Speaker 2>whiff against anything over ninety five.

907
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:46.039
<v Speaker 1>What's his chase?

908
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:49.559
<v Speaker 2>His chase is twenty seven, so he doesn't chase it.

909
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:50.760
<v Speaker 1>So that's not that bad.

910
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:54.119
<v Speaker 2>It's not that bad. But like this might just this

911
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:59.280
<v Speaker 2>might be Matt Wallner instead of Aristidi is keino, like

912
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:01.320
<v Speaker 2>where he can just he can do it for longer

913
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:03.320
<v Speaker 2>periods of time, but also.

914
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Be the worst hitter in the league for a few weeks,

915
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:14.880
<v Speaker 1>right yeah, yeah, I mean again, you can't really knock

916
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:17.679
<v Speaker 1>the lineup at this point, it's very deep.

917
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when Nick Nsol is a hitting, Yeah, you know

918
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:23.320
<v Speaker 3>they're waiting for Cruise to get back. They're waiting, you know.

919
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:26.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean they've been like a if they have

920
00:48:26.199 --> 00:48:28.119
<v Speaker 2>a one ten ops plus as a team, which I

921
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:34.599
<v Speaker 2>think if you saw the Pirates as you know, wild

922
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.440
<v Speaker 2>wild card contenders, a four game over a five hundred team,

923
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 2>you would have thought it would be like the pitching,

924
00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:43.239
<v Speaker 2>the pitching, right, and their pitching has been a it's

925
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:47.039
<v Speaker 2>it's you have affected a one Jones. You would expected

926
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:48.679
<v Speaker 2>a one ten e er a plus and a one

927
00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:50.559
<v Speaker 2>oh three ops plus instead of vice versa.

928
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:54.039
<v Speaker 1>Right. I think the surprising part to me is that

929
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:56.679
<v Speaker 1>like Chandler still hasn't figured it out. I would have

930
00:48:56.679 --> 00:48:58.480
<v Speaker 1>thought if they were going to be in the wildcard spot,

931
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.559
<v Speaker 1>Chandler would have figured it out him. Right. The other

932
00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:06.679
<v Speaker 1>part of this is like, arguably they should be many

933
00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:12.719
<v Speaker 1>games clear of this because their bullpen has been absolutely disastrous.

934
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 2>You know the what's this that the Jack chick tracked

935
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:21.239
<v Speaker 2>meme where it's like the people didn't listen to him

936
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:24.000
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, the people were not ready to accept his word.

937
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:26.960
<v Speaker 2>That's like camera like they were not ready to accept that.

938
00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:30.800
<v Speaker 2>Cameron Machinsky was correct about Cameron Machinsky Carmon.

939
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, but they also probably need him in the bullpen.

940
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:38.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah maybe, yes. I mean they are starting Mitch Keller

941
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:41.360
<v Speaker 2>and his five r every five days, and you can

942
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:44.800
<v Speaker 2>you can trade for a relief. Now, that is the

943
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:46.800
<v Speaker 2>thing they mean they did already.

944
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:49.199
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's where I was going with this was

945
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:51.880
<v Speaker 1>and I know I've said this before that like this

946
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.639
<v Speaker 1>has really come to them, like you said, the playoff spot,

947
00:49:55.639 --> 00:49:58.719
<v Speaker 1>but like the trade deadline has gone, they need they

948
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:02.559
<v Speaker 1>kind of just need to do the Tigers moved from last.

949
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:05.639
<v Speaker 3>Year, Yeah, and just really got like six skies yea,

950
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:11.599
<v Speaker 3>a supermarket sweep. Those relievers just start piling into the cart.

951
00:50:11.800 --> 00:50:13.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like you can even be to get the

952
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:15.719
<v Speaker 2>big inflatable a J Minter in the aisle.

953
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:19.360
<v Speaker 1>No, but look, you can even be cheap about it, right, Yeah,

954
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:23.079
<v Speaker 1>Like just get six guys and hope three of them

955
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:25.440
<v Speaker 1>are better than what you have. You don't even have

956
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:31.519
<v Speaker 1>to be good better than what you have financially improve

957
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:37.360
<v Speaker 1>your playoff odds. They could really use like a legit closer, sure,

958
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:41.119
<v Speaker 1>because right now it's either Greg Risoto or Joan Ramirez.

959
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:46.320
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, that's bad, that's not great. Rames has

960
00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:48.599
<v Speaker 2>been okay, But also you don't want them closing games

961
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:49.559
<v Speaker 2>for you.

962
00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:52.719
<v Speaker 1>You might just need to start doing like Mozinski as

963
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:57.079
<v Speaker 1>like the inning plus closer and writing the other nights,

964
00:50:57.159 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 1>but like win the games you can.

965
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Win, right, Like it's also Valgiska has been fine. Do

966
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:08.079
<v Speaker 2>you really want a guy closing with like seven strikeouts

967
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:09.719
<v Speaker 2>for nine and like, no, well, I.

968
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Know you don't have another option. I mean, Evan sisk

969
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Is hurt, Evan six sisk Is.

970
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:16.519
<v Speaker 2>It's time to trade Murph Gray for Luke Weaver and

971
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:17.480
<v Speaker 2>let him close, right?

972
00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:20.760
<v Speaker 1>Is training a top fifty for Well? Did they get

973
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:21.719
<v Speaker 1>two years out of the Weaver?

974
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's another year, okay, all right?

975
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:27.519
<v Speaker 1>Or not top fifty? He was on the he was

976
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:28.119
<v Speaker 1>on the just miss.

977
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, maybe they don't reven like I'm trying to think.

978
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Guys they have like Weaver is a great fit for them. Yes,

979
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:42.480
<v Speaker 2>actually you get it. They're not gonna want to. I

980
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:44.360
<v Speaker 2>don't want to trade a ton for a straight rental.

981
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:47.480
<v Speaker 2>But he can close. He's closed before you know. He's

982
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:52.039
<v Speaker 2>got the extra year. It's fairly cheap it's like eleven million.

983
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.519
<v Speaker 2>I think like that twelve million, which is a lot

984
00:51:55.519 --> 00:51:57.320
<v Speaker 2>for the Pirates, but you know, they could probably even

985
00:51:57.320 --> 00:51:59.760
<v Speaker 2>get the best to retain some money for a better prospect. Here.

986
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:02.840
<v Speaker 1>They just spent seven and a half million on Gregory Soto.

987
00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:06.559
<v Speaker 2>Sure, I think they probably intended to flip Gregory Soto though,

988
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:08.119
<v Speaker 2>if he was good and they were out of it.

989
00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:13.719
<v Speaker 1>So yeah. Also in the National League there's the Diamondbacks

990
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:14.480
<v Speaker 1>are a half game out.

991
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah here they are. They have hardly done anything and

992
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:18.480
<v Speaker 2>a half yeah.

993
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:20.679
<v Speaker 1>Between them at two.

994
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I put the Potter's. The Potters are more looky

995
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:24.719
<v Speaker 2>to buy in the Nationals.

996
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:27.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well yeah, yeah.

997
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean the Potterys are just gonna buy because like

998
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:32.119
<v Speaker 2>aj Peller, it's like he just wakes up one day

999
00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:33.880
<v Speaker 2>in July and like up, it's time now.

1000
00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:36.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well they're poculated.

1001
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thing right. I don't know what they're gonna do.

1002
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:46.960
<v Speaker 2>They good, like they're one of the other teams always think

1003
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 2>of trade for the bad contracts to send back for

1004
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:53.679
<v Speaker 2>Francisco Indor. But yeah, I don't know.

1005
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:57.599
<v Speaker 1>If you go, if you go on Baseball Reference, uh huh,

1006
00:52:58.360 --> 00:53:01.360
<v Speaker 1>goes Eduardo Rodriguez with the two six two e r

1007
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:04.760
<v Speaker 1>A Yeah, and a and a four oh nine FIP

1008
00:53:04.800 --> 00:53:09.440
<v Speaker 1>which is honestly fine, like obviously severe overperformance, but it is.

1009
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:11.880
<v Speaker 2>But he's a guy that is more contact suppression then.

1010
00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:16.559
<v Speaker 1>Right, it's he's not missing enough. That's but Merril Kelly

1011
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:20.480
<v Speaker 1>with a five point two e r A. Yes, Zach Gallon,

1012
00:53:21.199 --> 00:53:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Nelson, Michael Soroka.

1013
00:53:25.840 --> 00:53:28.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, was good.

1014
00:53:28.719 --> 00:53:33.199
<v Speaker 1>The other two were not. Yeah, Brandon Fott is in

1015
00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the fat zone.

1016
00:53:34.679 --> 00:53:37.280
<v Speaker 2>He's gotten he has gotten back to the fot zund

1017
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:38.119
<v Speaker 2>which is four.

1018
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Five eight e r uh with with a bunch of

1019
00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:44.079
<v Speaker 1>relief appearances mixed.

1020
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I mit like, but he has not been good.

1021
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:54.800
<v Speaker 1>What what is this team's rotation?

1022
00:53:55.320 --> 00:53:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean you just named all the pictures, Craig he

1023
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:04.039
<v Speaker 2>told us. Yeah, j is he's the fourth starter and

1024
00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:05.920
<v Speaker 2>they do not have a fifth, right, I mean, I'm

1025
00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:07.199
<v Speaker 2>sure they're going to call someone up.

1026
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:10.079
<v Speaker 1>But they've already called up Mitch Bratt.

1027
00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:15.639
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think Gilbert Diaz is hurt nower.

1028
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:18.239
<v Speaker 3>Uh. Is he on the team anymore? I thought they

1029
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:20.039
<v Speaker 3>know he's on the Tigers, now, is he?

1030
00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Mitch Bratt has two starts and six innings.

1031
00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he's the one time to the order guy, and.

1032
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean he was the only guy that was pitching

1033
00:54:35.840 --> 00:54:39.239
<v Speaker 2>well in Reno. And granted it's Reno, but like you know,

1034
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:41.440
<v Speaker 2>you been lenn and Cole Drake who they traded for

1035
00:54:41.599 --> 00:54:43.440
<v Speaker 2>and it was a notable prospect, and you been Land

1036
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:45.960
<v Speaker 2>who's made up top one on one both have six

1037
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:49.079
<v Speaker 2>c r as, And yeah it's Reno, it's the p

1038
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:50.920
<v Speaker 2>c L. But like, I don't know where you're going

1039
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:55.559
<v Speaker 2>from here. I gotta tell you very very very old

1040
00:54:55.599 --> 00:55:02.960
<v Speaker 2>friend Thomas hatch Craig. Yeah, wow, yeah, wow, Yeah, he's

1041
00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:03.519
<v Speaker 2>thirty one.

1042
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:09.519
<v Speaker 1>He has a Jeffery do you You don't have their

1043
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:11.360
<v Speaker 1>their baseball reference page open to you.

1044
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:14.840
<v Speaker 2>I have the Reno aces based on open I can

1045
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:15.719
<v Speaker 2>go back if you want.

1046
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:19.199
<v Speaker 1>Do not look at the Diamondbacks. Okay, okay, I want

1047
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:20.119
<v Speaker 1>to play a little game.

1048
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Sure, we love games.

1049
00:55:23.199 --> 00:55:27.079
<v Speaker 1>They they have well, they might have more. They have

1050
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:32.719
<v Speaker 1>six relievers, yeah, with e ras under three, okay in

1051
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:38.760
<v Speaker 1>any minimum twenty four innings. Sure, okay, I want you

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00:55:38.840 --> 00:55:43.119
<v Speaker 1>to hazard some guesses at the strikeouts per nine of

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00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:45.239
<v Speaker 1>these of these individuals. I'm going to give you the name,

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00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:48.639
<v Speaker 1>and I will give you the e R Yep. Taylor

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00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:53.039
<v Speaker 1>Clark two point four or five e R forty four innings.

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00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's got like he's got something like I looked

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00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.440
<v Speaker 2>at Clark a while back. I assume it is not

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00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:03.480
<v Speaker 2>really changed. I'm gonna say, like thirty six walks and

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00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:06.199
<v Speaker 2>thirty six strikeouts in twenty eight walks. So I that's

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00:56:06.199 --> 00:56:09.559
<v Speaker 2>like a seven point two strikeouts for nine.

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00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:12.280
<v Speaker 1>You, I think you have him confused with someone. Okay,

1062
00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:15.599
<v Speaker 1>is he has nine walks on the season. He's not

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00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:18.440
<v Speaker 1>walking a lot of guys. He has struck out twenty

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00:56:18.440 --> 00:56:20.599
<v Speaker 1>four batters in forty four innings. He has a four

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00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:24.079
<v Speaker 1>point nine strikeout per nine.

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00:56:25.320 --> 00:56:25.840
<v Speaker 3>That is.

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00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Untenable.

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00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Look it's lower than I guessed.

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00:56:33.880 --> 00:56:36.639
<v Speaker 1>Five five strikeouts for nine as a reliever.

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00:56:36.800 --> 00:56:42.719
<v Speaker 2>He's left handed. He's left handed, Yes, all right, Greg.

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00:56:42.360 --> 00:56:47.079
<v Speaker 1>The gink two point seven e R forty innings pitched.

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00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:50.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna say eight strikeouts for nine.

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00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:53.679
<v Speaker 1>He's at nine. He's at nine. He's been good, good

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00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:58.000
<v Speaker 1>believer one Mario two point nine five in just about

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00:56:58.000 --> 00:56:59.039
<v Speaker 1>forty innings as well.

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00:56:59.159 --> 00:57:01.360
<v Speaker 2>He's like a sinker baller, guys. So I'm gonna say,

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00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:03.599
<v Speaker 2>like it's like a turbo sinker. I think let's say

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00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:04.159
<v Speaker 2>six point.

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00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Eight, he's at ten point four. Another legitimate are we

1080
00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:12.920
<v Speaker 1>doing this game? You've got two okay, you've got two

1081
00:57:12.920 --> 00:57:18.320
<v Speaker 1>relievers striking guys out. Okay, okay, Jonathan Lowiaca two.

1082
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Point seven, six and a half, all right, fine.

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00:57:22.400 --> 00:57:28.559
<v Speaker 1>Six and a half. Uh, Brandon Garcia one in twenty

1084
00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:37.159
<v Speaker 1>four innings five, No, he's good ten and Ryan Thompson.

1085
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:41.039
<v Speaker 2>That's Thompson's like obviously Ryan Thompson five point six.

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00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:42.320
<v Speaker 1>He's at six and a half.

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00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:46.239
<v Speaker 2>But the point is that's all this is fine.

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00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:49.840
<v Speaker 1>That's six weeks, no, six and a half from from three,

1089
00:57:49.960 --> 00:57:52.639
<v Speaker 1>like five, six and a half and six and a half.

1090
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:54.480
<v Speaker 2>You don't throw those guys and leverage. You just throw

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00:57:54.519 --> 00:57:57.760
<v Speaker 2>the guys that have good strikeout ratios. Plus Paul Seawalled

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00:57:57.880 --> 00:58:00.480
<v Speaker 2>it's fine. Yes, they probably need to add orally too,

1093
00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:01.440
<v Speaker 2>but that's not like.

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00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:06.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, consider is this You look superficially like a

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00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:08.320
<v Speaker 1>very good bullpen, and you're talking.

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00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:10.440
<v Speaker 2>About I don't think it's as good a bullpen as

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00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:11.440
<v Speaker 2>the e Ras are.

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00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:15.119
<v Speaker 1>But also like also Brandon Garcia was part of it.

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00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Sure anyway, I think Brandon Garcia and one Mario are

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00:58:18.719 --> 00:58:20.360
<v Speaker 1>actually pretty sure.

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00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I just think like this in the starting pitching is

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00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:24.239
<v Speaker 2>an issue here there.

1103
00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but right exactly, you're gonna have to again, Mitch

1104
00:58:28.519 --> 00:58:30.519
<v Speaker 1>Bratt is going three inns.

1105
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Right, even even more so, you can't.

1106
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:35.880
<v Speaker 1>You can't even just do the leverage game. You have

1107
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:38.119
<v Speaker 1>to use all these guys all the time.

1108
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:44.119
<v Speaker 2>And even more so than the Pirates. This feels like

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00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:47.119
<v Speaker 2>the playoff races come to them and they're just going

1110
00:58:47.159 --> 00:58:49.199
<v Speaker 2>to be like between three games under and three games

1111
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:50.199
<v Speaker 2>over the rest of the season.

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00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:52.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that. I think the playoff races coming

1113
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:53.320
<v Speaker 3>up to them.

1114
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gonna keep coming the wrong lead.

1115
00:58:56.559 --> 00:58:58.760
<v Speaker 1>No, Well, but I think you're both right about that.

1116
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:01.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think this team is getting there, and but

1117
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:04.079
<v Speaker 1>also like they're gonna be whatever they are.

1118
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:07.039
<v Speaker 2>And also like they're close enough now that they it's

1119
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:09.159
<v Speaker 2>not impossible if you actually buy a good starting picture

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00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:09.920
<v Speaker 2>that you can.

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00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>They can't buy a good starting picture.

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00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Also, by the way, Corbyn Carroll has I'm reading a

1124
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:22.280
<v Speaker 1>headline that says the d Backs not overly concerned with

1125
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:23.679
<v Speaker 1>Carol's elbow injury.

1126
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:26.719
<v Speaker 3>Okay, neither.

1127
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Garrett Crochet had an extremely precautionary mr.

1128
00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:35.559
<v Speaker 3>Just entered that chamber with trepidation.

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00:59:37.440 --> 00:59:37.639
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Carol says he has hyper hyper extended the elbow and

1131
00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:42.920
<v Speaker 1>it's lingered on him.

1132
00:59:43.519 --> 00:59:44.400
<v Speaker 2>M hmmmm.

1133
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Love when things linger on you.

1134
00:59:46.440 --> 00:59:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Yes, especially elbows for guys have to swing on that.

1135
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Our last segment before our break, am I battling

1136
00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:58.800
<v Speaker 1>ghosts or ai? I'm sorry, I cannot do whatever he's

1137
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:03.360
<v Speaker 1>he does in that in that partition and correct, I

1138
01:00:03.400 --> 01:00:05.079
<v Speaker 1>should not try.

1139
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:09.320
<v Speaker 2>You can't be trying that, white baby.

1140
01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:11.000
<v Speaker 1>You can't. You can't be talking like that.

1141
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

1142
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:16.639
<v Speaker 1>The the Mets seemingly are the.

1143
01:00:18.199 --> 01:00:20.280
<v Speaker 2>According to Adam and Vino. I don't think they're the

1144
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:22.480
<v Speaker 2>only team that was doing this, but they were.

1145
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:24.920
<v Speaker 1>They were leading. No, I do not think they were

1146
01:00:24.920 --> 01:00:26.639
<v Speaker 1>the only team doing this, but they were leaving the

1147
01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:27.880
<v Speaker 1>tr This.

1148
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:31.039
<v Speaker 3>How seems like a day to put this.

1149
01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:33.559
<v Speaker 1>This is like such an exhausting thing to even then.

1150
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Every team gets a.

1151
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:44.920
<v Speaker 2>League issued iPad with maintained amount of data they can

1152
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:46.679
<v Speaker 2>access in games.

1153
01:00:47.320 --> 01:00:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Right, there are three tabs on on it. They are

1154
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:55.760
<v Speaker 1>able to look at stuff from the prior. It updates

1155
01:00:56.119 --> 01:01:00.599
<v Speaker 1>after a half inning. All the data updates. It's generally

1156
01:01:01.480 --> 01:01:05.400
<v Speaker 1>static data like it's stuff that they can't manipulate or

1157
01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:08.679
<v Speaker 1>do stuff with generally this is this is where the

1158
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:12.880
<v Speaker 1>issue comes in. There is a custom tab or whatever

1159
01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:15.400
<v Speaker 1>you want to call it, the third tab on this

1160
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and that it seems like.

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01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:24.800
<v Speaker 3>The met's tired. Johnny Lee Miller.

1162
01:01:27.280 --> 01:01:35.000
<v Speaker 1>The several teams were somehow using that custom tab to

1163
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 1>the the article which came from the Athletic the reporting

1164
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:45.360
<v Speaker 1>uh Eno Saris and I think they have four other

1165
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:52.519
<v Speaker 1>people contributing to the piece. Uh mentioned generative AI, but

1166
01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:56.519
<v Speaker 1>it the way, it didn't actually sound like generative AI

1167
01:01:56.639 --> 01:01:59.400
<v Speaker 1>to me. It sounds like they have a model that

1168
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:04.719
<v Speaker 1>uses is the information that is available and produces recommendations.

1169
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:10.159
<v Speaker 1>That's not that's not There could be some it's possible, right,

1170
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:10.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

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01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Really learning or some sort of aspect to it. That's

1172
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:17.480
<v Speaker 2>but machine learning is not generative AI, right, And I

1173
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:18.440
<v Speaker 2>want to be clear.

1174
01:02:18.360 --> 01:02:21.840
<v Speaker 1>To everyone on this like I'm not I'm not trying

1175
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to defend one. I've never used any I've never used

1176
01:02:25.159 --> 01:02:27.400
<v Speaker 1>any of these AI chatbots or whatever.

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01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:30.559
<v Speaker 2>It is not asking chat GBT, what pitch, it's just

1178
01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:31.880
<v Speaker 2>thou right, right.

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01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:38.039
<v Speaker 1>It is something that is pulling off of essentially static data.

1180
01:02:38.119 --> 01:02:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Now it's data that updated the prior half inning perhaps,

1181
01:02:41.280 --> 01:02:45.559
<v Speaker 1>but essentially static data. Now, it does sound like they

1182
01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:49.519
<v Speaker 1>might have been at hand entering stuff as the inning

1183
01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:53.880
<v Speaker 1>went on to then produce like what is a recommended

1184
01:02:55.679 --> 01:03:02.519
<v Speaker 1>pitch offering or or relief? I guess a reliever to

1185
01:03:02.639 --> 01:03:07.280
<v Speaker 1>go to based on who's hitting. And you know what

1186
01:03:07.280 --> 01:03:14.079
<v Speaker 1>what your database has about your pictures, right, whether it's armslot,

1187
01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:16.079
<v Speaker 1>whether it's movement types that give a hit or gim

1188
01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:17.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, trouble stuff.

1189
01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:20.079
<v Speaker 3>Like location, the things that a manager would do.

1190
01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the look, I don't know if Mets women better

1191
01:03:26.360 --> 01:03:28.920
<v Speaker 2>off being managed by AI than Carlos Mendoza for the

1192
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:32.239
<v Speaker 2>first part of the season. Look, it sounds like a

1193
01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:34.800
<v Speaker 2>lot of teams were doing this more than just the Mets.

1194
01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:38.960
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like this was considered okay at one point

1195
01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:41.159
<v Speaker 2>and the league decided, no, you're pushing this too far.

1196
01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:46.079
<v Speaker 2>You need to stop, and everybody stopped. Yeah, but it's

1197
01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:48.639
<v Speaker 2>like the idea that this is some crazy new thing

1198
01:03:48.679 --> 01:03:50.800
<v Speaker 2>and the teams haven't been using machine learning models to

1199
01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:52.800
<v Speaker 2>suggest pitch sequences for like the better part of a

1200
01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:55.960
<v Speaker 2>decade now is you know, they've just been able to

1201
01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:58.519
<v Speaker 2>figure out a way to get it on the iPad basically.

1202
01:03:58.360 --> 01:04:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Get into the dug out. Yeah, yeah, they should have

1203
01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:03.320
<v Speaker 3>they should make a.

1204
01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Guy whatever yet, like it is like whatever you think

1205
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:07.760
<v Speaker 2>analytics are, you're actually ten years behind where teams are.

1206
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:09.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, they should make a guy have to run

1207
01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:11.079
<v Speaker 3>through the tunnels with a print out.

1208
01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, it's a handle it. It's got to be

1209
01:04:13.360 --> 01:04:18.639
<v Speaker 2>like the old like printer paper. Yeah yeah.

1210
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:23.400
<v Speaker 1>But also, like to Patrick's point, like this is what

1211
01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:27.079
<v Speaker 1>these guys who have been in the game for a

1212
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:29.039
<v Speaker 1>very long time and seeing a ton of reps and

1213
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:29.320
<v Speaker 1>like that.

1214
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:32.320
<v Speaker 2>That's that's it's like Carlos Delgado's notebook.

1215
01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Right, we're fancy or or it's a fancy ass defensive

1216
01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:38.800
<v Speaker 3>positioning charts list right.

1217
01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:41.599
<v Speaker 2>Right, Again, it's data, right, you don't have to pick

1218
01:04:41.679 --> 01:04:42.360
<v Speaker 2>the slider next.

1219
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:45.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's not on a rit. I do somewhat

1220
01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:48.559
<v Speaker 1>subscribe to the idea that like once the game starts,

1221
01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:51.360
<v Speaker 1>like enough with all this ship, sure, right, Like if

1222
01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:55.719
<v Speaker 1>you look, you've got defensive positioning for every person on

1223
01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the team, informed by data heading into the game. Yeah,

1224
01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:02.440
<v Speaker 1>you've walked into the game with that information and it's

1225
01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:06.400
<v Speaker 1>on your wrist. Fine, it's not outdated, it's not changing

1226
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:08.920
<v Speaker 1>by the pitch, right.

1227
01:05:08.960 --> 01:05:12.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't even like it on the wrist. I'm somebody.

1228
01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:16.559
<v Speaker 2>The Dodgers that got yelled at for using the laser pointer.

1229
01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, And I kind of and it's

1230
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:22.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of to me like enough enough if you can't

1231
01:05:22.440 --> 01:05:25.679
<v Speaker 1>figure out where to stand, Yeah, Like this is your job.

1232
01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:28.519
<v Speaker 2>A lot of this is like you know what it's

1233
01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:31.039
<v Speaker 2>happened in the NFL, right, where like the they had

1234
01:05:31.079 --> 01:05:34.159
<v Speaker 2>to cut down on how late the coaches could be

1235
01:05:34.199 --> 01:05:36.760
<v Speaker 2>in the headset because they were like literally reading defenses

1236
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:37.519
<v Speaker 2>for the quarterback.

1237
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then it to me it is like this

1238
01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:42.039
<v Speaker 1>is your job. And also, by the way, as the coach,

1239
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:44.000
<v Speaker 1>it's your job to get the player to be able

1240
01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:46.960
<v Speaker 1>to do it. If you can't get Taoscar Hernandez to

1241
01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:49.559
<v Speaker 1>stand in the right spot, like sorry.

1242
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, this is even more like specific like if you're

1243
01:05:52.039 --> 01:05:54.360
<v Speaker 2>calling pitches from the dugout right, this is telling you

1244
01:05:54.840 --> 01:05:56.599
<v Speaker 2>or they suggest that you don't have again you don't

1245
01:05:56.599 --> 01:05:56.800
<v Speaker 2>have to.

1246
01:05:57.320 --> 01:06:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're trying to find the right mix of like entropy.

1247
01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:02.119
<v Speaker 1>They don't want to be predictable, they don't want you know,

1248
01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:02.719
<v Speaker 1>they want.

1249
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:05.360
<v Speaker 2>I had I talked about this on I think for

1250
01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:07.480
<v Speaker 2>all you kids. At one point of me was on

1251
01:06:07.480 --> 01:06:12.960
<v Speaker 2>the show that Nick Schaeffer asked me, like, are teams

1252
01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:18.320
<v Speaker 2>like trying to create random pitch sequence? It's like super

1253
01:06:18.360 --> 01:06:20.199
<v Speaker 2>like randomized pitch And I'm sure they were doing that

1254
01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:23.840
<v Speaker 2>ten years ago, right, the experiment with everything with the day,

1255
01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:26.400
<v Speaker 2>they have so much data they can manipulate like outside

1256
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:29.039
<v Speaker 2>of the dugout, right, Like they've tried every they've high

1257
01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:32.320
<v Speaker 2>again the machine learning PhDs, data engineer Like they have

1258
01:06:32.480 --> 01:06:38.079
<v Speaker 2>so many like you know, academic level PhDs in these

1259
01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:44.000
<v Speaker 2>very like hyper specific technical subjects and then they pay

1260
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:48.199
<v Speaker 2>them fifty five thousand dollars a year to like just

1261
01:06:48.280 --> 01:06:50.800
<v Speaker 2>go the hogwild and like a lot of stuff doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>amount to anything or some very marginal upgrade, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to find the next advantage, right, like whatever

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01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:57.760
<v Speaker 2>you can for Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 1>To understand that they're trying to get the fruits of

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01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:05.320
<v Speaker 1>that labor into the dugout and make it easy for

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<v Speaker 1>the manager or if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a calling model benefit from it that is fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>percent better I mean not even fifteen honestly eight percent

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<v Speaker 2>better than just normal game normal good game calling, like

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<v Speaker 2>over the course of a season.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a huge fucking advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And to be clear, one of the reasons I'm saying

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01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:30.719
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not like AI or specifically generate AI, right,

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01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Like you could build an app that says, do you

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01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:37.519
<v Speaker 1>just give it a bunch of conditions based on these parameters.

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<v Speaker 2>Facing this is the last some bitches at these previous

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01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:43.239
<v Speaker 2>locations and these previous.

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<v Speaker 1>And these are the results, by the way, and there's

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01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:48.239
<v Speaker 1>swing's whatever, what what is what should the next thing be?

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<v Speaker 1>Basically if this, this, this, this, this.

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<v Speaker 2>If then yeah, right, then then what we're doing like

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01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:56.440
<v Speaker 2>very much like like go to slider.

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01:07:56.519 --> 01:07:59.039
<v Speaker 1>It is no, but it is. Basically it's a fancier

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01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:02.679
<v Speaker 1>version of that with an of conditionals and the ability

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01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:06.199
<v Speaker 1>to sort through all of that. But that's essentially what

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01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:09.599
<v Speaker 1>we're dealing with. And it's someone hand entering the prior

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01:08:09.719 --> 01:08:13.039
<v Speaker 1>pitch and saying, and this was the result, right, whether

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01:08:13.079 --> 01:08:14.599
<v Speaker 1>it was a swing and a miss in zone, out

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01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of zone, whether it's chase whatever, and it spits something.

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<v Speaker 2>Out every few years.

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01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:20.239
<v Speaker 1>That's not artificial intelligence.

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01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Every few years tech bros get together and reinvent pitch starting, right.

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01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:28.920
<v Speaker 1>But that's not artificial intelligence. But it is that what

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01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:31.359
<v Speaker 1>it's able to consider and how quickly, it's able to

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01:08:31.399 --> 01:08:34.039
<v Speaker 1>produce something is different and you have it on the

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<v Speaker 1>iPad and.

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<v Speaker 2>Right is like is like deep blue AI Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And what the league, what the League said here was

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<v Speaker 1>none of this was against the rules. Right now, that's

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01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:47.960
<v Speaker 1>when no one's being punished, right, It is not against

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01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:51.479
<v Speaker 1>the rules as written. We don't like it. We're changing

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01:08:51.520 --> 01:08:54.079
<v Speaker 1>the rules. You have a month to get your shit together,

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01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:57.119
<v Speaker 1>no longer like starting in the second half. You can't

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01:08:57.119 --> 01:09:00.880
<v Speaker 1>do that anymore. And I think also that's fine. Sure,

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01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:03.159
<v Speaker 1>I think the League clearly said it's not against the

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01:09:03.239 --> 01:09:06.920
<v Speaker 1>rules as written, it should have been. We're fixing that.

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01:09:07.000 --> 01:09:09.760
<v Speaker 2>We can't consider every possibility, right, we have now considered

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01:09:09.800 --> 01:09:10.600
<v Speaker 2>this one because.

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01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:12.479
<v Speaker 1>It's we don't and we don't like it. It is

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01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:15.319
<v Speaker 1>against the spirit of what we were going for, and

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01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:18.239
<v Speaker 1>we're you're not getting punished, but you're not allowed to

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01:09:18.279 --> 01:09:19.399
<v Speaker 1>do it anymore. That's fine.

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01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:21.680
<v Speaker 3>Go find a new loophole, Go find.

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01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:24.840
<v Speaker 1>A new and well we'll shut that down. Yeah later too,

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01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:27.000
<v Speaker 1>but for now, you can't do this. And I think

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01:09:27.000 --> 01:09:27.560
<v Speaker 1>that's fine.

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01:09:27.720 --> 01:09:29.319
<v Speaker 2>And also clearly it helped the Matchalon.

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01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, and it does sound like what like I

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01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:35.840
<v Speaker 1>don't somewhere between ten and fifteen teams. We're doing something

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01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:39.840
<v Speaker 1>of a variation of this, right, some variations. So all right,

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01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:41.760
<v Speaker 1>on that note, let's take a break and we'll come

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01:09:41.760 --> 01:10:06.760
<v Speaker 1>back with the back half of the show. Welcome back

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01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:09.079
<v Speaker 1>to the episode five hundred and sixty four of five

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<v Speaker 1>and five. We're on our fourth segment. We're going around

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<v Speaker 1>the horn heading into the break show. Heo Tani did

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<v Speaker 1>not even play at all in all start game, right,

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01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:20.199
<v Speaker 1>it was he skipped the whole thing. Yeah, and they

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01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:22.119
<v Speaker 1>said he would not be pitching for a little bit.

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01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:25.760
<v Speaker 1>He's he they needed to drain his knee. He's had

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01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:29.399
<v Speaker 1>knee irritation for a little bit. It sounds like we've

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01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:32.079
<v Speaker 1>got some more specific he will not be pitching for

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01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:35.319
<v Speaker 1>a while, more more than they made it sound. Heading.

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01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:38.359
<v Speaker 1>The Dodgers love to lie, as they do. I'm sure

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01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:39.359
<v Speaker 1>some of this is.

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<v Speaker 2>Is we got to see how he recovers from the

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01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:42.399
<v Speaker 2>knee draining, and right.

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01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Right, what does it feel like after we drain.

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01:10:44.479 --> 01:10:46.720
<v Speaker 2>The knee, does if he pitches the rest of the

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01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:49.680
<v Speaker 2>season or not? Right, Yeah, as long as he's ready

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01:10:49.680 --> 01:10:50.560
<v Speaker 2>for the playoff.

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01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:52.600
<v Speaker 3>To get ready for the playoffs, he'd be on a

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01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:53.119
<v Speaker 3>second job.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, he will continue to hit. It sounds like it

1346
01:10:57.199 --> 01:10:59.800
<v Speaker 1>is irritated when he It's based on how he lands

1347
01:10:59.840 --> 01:11:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and some of the torque and that kind of stuff,

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01:11:02.199 --> 01:11:04.239
<v Speaker 1>and not he doesn't.

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01:11:04.039 --> 01:11:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Have a torquie swing or anything.

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01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, but it's apparently not when he's If if it's

1351
01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:13.960
<v Speaker 1>his it's his left knee, right, so that's his landing leg,

1352
01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:14.880
<v Speaker 1>but also.

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01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:20.399
<v Speaker 2>Not it's his back leg. So I don't know who knows.

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01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:23.640
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't seem to bother him now when he swings,

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01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:27.439
<v Speaker 1>so he will just be dhing for a while. We

1356
01:11:27.479 --> 01:11:29.479
<v Speaker 1>didn't put it in here, but just on the Dodgers,

1357
01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:32.000
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like Will Smith's gonna be out for a bunch.

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01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:35.039
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like they might be actually interested in exploring

1359
01:11:35.079 --> 01:11:36.319
<v Speaker 2>the catching market, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably a backup catcher just let well I was, but

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01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:39.640
<v Speaker 1>who knows.

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01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:41.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I said, like why are you doing this when

1363
01:11:41.119 --> 01:11:43.680
<v Speaker 2>you have Dalton rushing? And Jarrett point out to me

1364
01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:47.000
<v Speaker 2>like everyone needs Dalton rushing.

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01:11:47.760 --> 01:11:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, that's actually true. Well yeah, there, I know

1366
01:11:53.359 --> 01:11:55.920
<v Speaker 1>there are some clips, but they've also been caught in

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01:11:55.960 --> 01:11:57.479
<v Speaker 1>certain ways from broader.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a lot to be clear, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not trying to say like everyone loves him necessarily,

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01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:11.479
<v Speaker 1>but like I think it's I don't know, I don't

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01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:13.800
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's that that that.

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01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Badness as I continue to trade off every mat and existence,

1374
01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:18.800
<v Speaker 2>at least Trends is available. Craig, how do you feel

1375
01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:19.119
<v Speaker 2>about that?

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01:12:19.199 --> 01:12:27.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was the franchise I thought was available anyway, Yeah,

1377
01:12:27.800 --> 01:12:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I honestly think something like Ben ortvett is,

1378
01:12:31.439 --> 01:12:32.520
<v Speaker 1>isn't he in the Mets?

1379
01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:34.159
<v Speaker 2>He's in the the Mets right now?

1380
01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:34.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:37.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that like he he played with them

1382
01:12:37.399 --> 01:12:39.239
<v Speaker 1>last year, he knows the pitching staff, that kind of

1383
01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:42.840
<v Speaker 1>thing seems more likely. They also might just go with Elizer,

1384
01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:44.319
<v Speaker 1>like who knows.

1385
01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:48.680
<v Speaker 2>The Connecticut Tiger ever watched to make the majors.

1386
01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I think he finally got his first career head. Uh.

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01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:57.399
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of an All West Catchers, Hunter Goodman also a

1388
01:12:57.399 --> 01:13:01.520
<v Speaker 1>potential trade candidate. I suppose first Rocky take three home

1389
01:13:01.600 --> 01:13:04.239
<v Speaker 1>runs in a game twice in a season, that's a

1390
01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:07.439
<v Speaker 1>season thought a game.

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01:13:07.960 --> 01:13:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's like like you would have thought somebody would

1392
01:13:12.159 --> 01:13:16.720
<v Speaker 2>have like Todd Helton was there. Yeah, yeah, you would

1393
01:13:16.760 --> 01:13:18.319
<v Speaker 2>think some would have done it before. Hunter Goodman.

1394
01:13:18.399 --> 01:13:22.479
<v Speaker 3>But I do love that the Rockies lost that game.

1395
01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, they wouldn't be the Rockies. Rintaro Sasaki

1396
01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:34.239
<v Speaker 1>signs with the Marlins.

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01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a little.

1398
01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:37.319
<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, he was a fairly big name when he came

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01:13:42.279 --> 01:13:45.760
<v Speaker 2>over to play college ball here. He was not particularly

1401
01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:49.039
<v Speaker 2>good in college. There's why you went, you know, if

1402
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:50.880
<v Speaker 2>you if you play I guess that's not the Pac twelve.

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01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:52.319
<v Speaker 2>Any What conference is Stanford in.

1404
01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they're in the Okay, so the

1405
01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:03.279
<v Speaker 1>plant A Coast Conference, right, yeah, fine, sure.

1406
01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:05.399
<v Speaker 3>It's either Atlantic or Coast one of them.

1407
01:14:07.039 --> 01:14:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Att Yeah, I guess, yeah, Okay, I guess because I

1408
01:14:09.920 --> 01:14:11.319
<v Speaker 1>was going to say, explain s m U, but I

1409
01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:15.560
<v Speaker 1>guess maybe that's the Gulf Coast anyway.

1410
01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, if you are a three year I don't know,

1411
01:14:18.920 --> 01:14:20.720
<v Speaker 2>there's a draft dollars or sophone. You're a three year

1412
01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:22.560
<v Speaker 2>starter at in a CC school and you're going in

1413
01:14:22.600 --> 01:14:25.159
<v Speaker 2>the eighth round, like you're probably not actually a very

1414
01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:27.600
<v Speaker 2>good hitter. I'm a little surprised he didn't go back

1415
01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:30.239
<v Speaker 2>to MPB. But he also got drafted by a team

1416
01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:32.159
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't post anyone, So maybe he just wants to

1417
01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:35.399
<v Speaker 2>take a shot. Yeah here, and like he's getting an

1418
01:14:35.439 --> 01:14:38.199
<v Speaker 2>okay bonus in the eighth round, I'm sure, but in

1419
01:14:38.199 --> 01:14:39.479
<v Speaker 2>the fact that he came over here to play college

1420
01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:41.520
<v Speaker 2>ball means he probably was playing MLB, right that that's

1421
01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:44.920
<v Speaker 2>the more logical path that I don't like it go

1422
01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:46.960
<v Speaker 2>right out for him, But that's true of any eighth

1423
01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:48.439
<v Speaker 2>round college bath for the most part.

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01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, it's honestly I feel for the guy because

1425
01:14:57.119 --> 01:15:00.399
<v Speaker 3>the way his college career wound up, this this wind

1426
01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:02.319
<v Speaker 3>up being kind of the hardest possible decision.

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01:15:02.840 --> 01:15:05.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was very but yeah, it's a very I

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01:15:05.199 --> 01:15:07.119
<v Speaker 2>don't know what I would have done. Yeah, I don't

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01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:07.640
<v Speaker 2>know either.

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01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:18.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Elsewhere, Kyle Bradish extended as as was news to.

1431
01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Me earlier, miss kelleration.

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01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Basically I missed that while I was briefly out of town.

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01:15:23.960 --> 01:15:26.000
<v Speaker 2>What was the five.

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01:15:27.439 --> 01:15:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Than anything?

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01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean, look, I think Kyle British is

1436
01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:34.880
<v Speaker 1>a good picture the injury history alone.

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01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:35.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:38.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why he's older thirty four right, Yeah,

1439
01:15:38.479 --> 01:15:41.239
<v Speaker 1>so I don't think it's anything maybe thirty through thirty five,

1440
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:41.840
<v Speaker 1>it's if.

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01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:43.920
<v Speaker 2>It's five, well no, it's it's five years and it

1442
01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:45.359
<v Speaker 2>kicks in next year, So I think it's thirty to

1443
01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:45.840
<v Speaker 2>thirty four.

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01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:48.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't have anything against Kyle British, but I feel

1445
01:15:48.920 --> 01:15:52.199
<v Speaker 3>like Kyle Bradish plus the Baltimoreals is the exact point

1446
01:15:52.199 --> 01:15:53.239
<v Speaker 3>where I do not care.

1447
01:15:53.399 --> 01:15:56.359
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know why you've locked in Shane Baz

1448
01:15:56.399 --> 01:15:59.640
<v Speaker 2>and Kyle Bradish and not locked and like signed to

1449
01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:01.239
<v Speaker 2>anybody yell us at any point in time.

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01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:05.439
<v Speaker 3>I mean, is Kyle British, I don't know if you're

1451
01:16:05.439 --> 01:16:07.680
<v Speaker 3>a love Is he a playoff starter? I think he's

1452
01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:10.880
<v Speaker 3>a playoff starter. Yeah, you just got to get those

1453
01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:11.640
<v Speaker 3>guys you gotta get.

1454
01:16:11.960 --> 01:16:14.199
<v Speaker 2>But he's as shouldn't be starting game one for you,

1455
01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:14.840
<v Speaker 2>which he's going to.

1456
01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:18.720
<v Speaker 1>But again, like we're talking about like jose Soriano and

1457
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:21.399
<v Speaker 1>like it's kind of and Jose Soriano are kind of

1458
01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:26.039
<v Speaker 1>the same to me, two guys who should start the

1459
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:26.560
<v Speaker 1>second game.

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01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:29.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like Josey Toriano should absolutely get out of Anaheim,

1461
01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:31.239
<v Speaker 2>but I would also understand him signing this exact same

1462
01:16:31.279 --> 01:16:31.880
<v Speaker 2>extension too.

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01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, maybe so, uh Brandon Woodruff and.

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01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:42.319
<v Speaker 3>Uh Woff, like the guests like the and credit on

1465
01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:44.560
<v Speaker 3>around the Horn. I feel like every week.

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01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Didn't we just talk about him last week? For the year, Yeah, he's.

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01:16:49.960 --> 01:16:54.119
<v Speaker 3>Each week, the certainty of his his injury grows, and

1468
01:16:54.279 --> 01:16:55.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how he's going to find a way

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01:16:55.880 --> 01:16:57.720
<v Speaker 3>to come back for us to talk about it. Next week,

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01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:00.960
<v Speaker 3>we'll find a way for some some new piece of

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01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:03.680
<v Speaker 3>depressing Brandon wonderff news his.

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01:17:03.399 --> 01:17:08.479
<v Speaker 1>His shoulder is actually made out of Hamburger meat, scientists discover. Uh,

1473
01:17:08.520 --> 01:17:11.840
<v Speaker 1>and our doctor says, Keller out for the year. I'm assume,

1474
01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:13.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming, Brad.

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01:17:13.439 --> 01:17:14.960
<v Speaker 2>I did. I did have a bit of a double

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01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:17.319
<v Speaker 2>take this morning, but it is mentioned.

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01:17:16.960 --> 01:17:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Mitch earlier and it wasn't well that is uh.

1478
01:17:20.960 --> 01:17:23.079
<v Speaker 2>You should always count on us mentioning Mitch Keller.

1479
01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:26.720
<v Speaker 1>That's right. Oh, it was a great episode for the

1480
01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:31.640
<v Speaker 1>keller Fellers with both of them are mentioned. Uh, that's

1481
01:17:31.640 --> 01:17:32.920
<v Speaker 1>a tough blow for the Phillies.

1482
01:17:33.479 --> 01:17:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1483
01:17:34.359 --> 01:17:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But now Dave Dombrowski gets to do his favorite thing,

1484
01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:40.720
<v Speaker 2>which is trade for lever the deadline.

1485
01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I guess they do. They don't have a

1486
01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:46.680
<v Speaker 1>ton of Jose Alvarado has been.

1487
01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:54.079
<v Speaker 2>He is nothing good Durant obviously, but he's gonna need

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01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:56.079
<v Speaker 2>at least two more leverage rely Verse to feel comfortable.

1489
01:17:56.119 --> 01:18:01.000
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so we'll see, we'll see come there and

1490
01:18:01.039 --> 01:18:02.000
<v Speaker 1>that brings us to our game.

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01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:03.720
<v Speaker 3>That brings us our game. We're doing leader wards. So

1492
01:18:03.760 --> 01:18:05.039
<v Speaker 3>we haven't done this game in a while. I know

1493
01:18:05.079 --> 01:18:08.279
<v Speaker 3>you guys love it so much. Uh, what I'm gonna do?

1494
01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:09.720
<v Speaker 3>Do you guys know booths? For this one. What we're

1495
01:18:09.720 --> 01:18:12.039
<v Speaker 3>gonna do is We're gonna take turns guessing and I

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01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:15.680
<v Speaker 3>have the top ten leaders in various statistical categories as

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01:18:15.720 --> 01:18:18.800
<v Speaker 3>of today, and you'll take turns voting. You get ten

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01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:20.920
<v Speaker 3>points for whoevers in first, you get one point forever

1499
01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:24.680
<v Speaker 3>and tent and after five categories, you've got three guesses each.

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01:18:25.359 --> 01:18:28.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna admit something about myself on these games,

1501
01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:32.600
<v Speaker 1>is it's not I I somehow feel that the taking

1502
01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:38.800
<v Speaker 1>turns is worse. Yeah, because I then have to guess,

1503
01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:41.039
<v Speaker 1>Whereas like when it's just a competition, if I just

1504
01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:43.720
<v Speaker 1>lose to Jeff, I can be like, great, great move,

1505
01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:47.279
<v Speaker 1>great one, Jeff beat me to it. Good job.

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01:18:49.479 --> 01:18:53.960
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well that's a break. Go first, we're gonna

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01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:57.319
<v Speaker 3>start with slugging percentage. Who else the this is for?

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01:18:59.399 --> 01:19:01.479
<v Speaker 3>I think it's called for qualified batters for this one.

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01:19:02.560 --> 01:19:05.920
<v Speaker 3>It's for the Yeah, I'll let you know. For each

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01:19:05.960 --> 01:19:10.359
<v Speaker 3>one but for this one, it's qualified batters, Craig, who

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01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:12.399
<v Speaker 3>is who has the highest looking percentage of baseball?

1512
01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:17.760
<v Speaker 1>See, this should be something I should be able to

1513
01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:25.760
<v Speaker 1>like figure out, but I probably can't. I'm gonna I'm

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01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:27.159
<v Speaker 1>gonna go with your non albs.

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01:19:27.239 --> 01:19:28.800
<v Speaker 3>You'd be correct to do. So, he's ten points.

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01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, First, I will go with because you want like

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01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:48.680
<v Speaker 2>a fairly high batting average too, I I will just

1518
01:19:48.720 --> 01:19:49.800
<v Speaker 2>go with Junior Camenara.

1519
01:19:50.680 --> 01:19:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Junior Camanaro is ninth. Actually he's tied for eighth, so

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01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:56.840
<v Speaker 3>you get three points, all right, Craig, Guess two.

1521
01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I will go with Kyle Schwarber.

1522
01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:08.079
<v Speaker 3>Aile Schwarber is tied for fourth, seventh.

1523
01:20:08.359 --> 01:20:10.239
<v Speaker 2>I almost sure, but I thought the banning hours would

1524
01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:10.680
<v Speaker 2>be too low.

1525
01:20:10.880 --> 01:20:13.039
<v Speaker 1>No, I thought Carmanara was a good guest, to be honest.

1526
01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:17.199
<v Speaker 3>Now there's not a huge number. I mean, I will

1527
01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:18.399
<v Speaker 3>I will say this is.

1528
01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Just slogging percentage.

1529
01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Because it's like it's yeah, yeah, no, I'm saying, like,

1530
01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:28.239
<v Speaker 2>but if you hit two forty and the other guy

1531
01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:31.079
<v Speaker 2>hits camin I was hitting eight, the.

1532
01:20:31.039 --> 01:20:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Gap between Camara was a great guest.

1533
01:20:33.039 --> 01:20:34.880
<v Speaker 3>I will say the gap between your done and number

1534
01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:37.479
<v Speaker 3>two is the same as the gap number nine.

1535
01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:38.600
<v Speaker 2>That's what I also figured.

1536
01:20:38.680 --> 01:20:43.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah one so one. Soto is seventh, so you get.

1537
01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's had a bad week.

1538
01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:49.359
<v Speaker 3>Four points because we do three guesses each have three guesses,

1539
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:49.880
<v Speaker 3>you have one more.

1540
01:20:56.840 --> 01:20:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I have like an obvious one and and one lesson

1541
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:02.359
<v Speaker 1>less obvious that m I'm going to go for the

1542
01:21:02.359 --> 01:21:06.079
<v Speaker 1>stretch and probably probably pay for it. But I am

1543
01:21:06.079 --> 01:21:08.920
<v Speaker 1>going to say Jordan Walker, Jordan Walker is none on

1544
01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:09.279
<v Speaker 1>the list.

1545
01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, he's like he's like under five hundred right now.

1546
01:21:12.119 --> 01:21:15.800
<v Speaker 2>I think I knew, I knew what. Look, I knew

1547
01:21:15.800 --> 01:21:17.000
<v Speaker 2>going in, I was going to pay for it.

1548
01:21:18.239 --> 01:21:19.800
<v Speaker 3>Just a chance to catch up.

1549
01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:26.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm trying to you're out which Okay, we'll pick here.

1550
01:21:28.960 --> 01:21:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Let's go with the Colson Montgomery.

1551
01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:36.760
<v Speaker 3>Colston Gummery is not also known in the list. I'll

1552
01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:38.920
<v Speaker 3>take it, all right, So seventeen to seven. Craig is

1553
01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:42.119
<v Speaker 3>the lead. You're the leaders the rest of the way.

1554
01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:46.319
<v Speaker 3>Ben Rice of course forgotten. Yeah, Byron Buckston number three,

1555
01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:47.119
<v Speaker 3>I would.

1556
01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Not have got, like I know he's I wouldn't have

1557
01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:49.239
<v Speaker 2>gotten that, but I know.

1558
01:21:49.439 --> 01:21:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Hunter Goodman tied for fourth, James Wood fifth, Wilson

1559
01:21:54.439 --> 01:21:59.239
<v Speaker 3>shame on but yeah, and Louis Garcia is.

1560
01:21:59.119 --> 01:22:01.840
<v Speaker 2>My problem that Cam and Arrow, Like I thought, I know,

1561
01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:03.960
<v Speaker 2>he's like right around five forty. I didn't think there

1562
01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:05.680
<v Speaker 2>could be that many, Like there's a lot of guys

1563
01:22:05.680 --> 01:22:07.239
<v Speaker 2>between like five thirty and five sixty.

1564
01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Isn't it all right, Jeff your first this one. It's

1565
01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:11.439
<v Speaker 3>just straight a R.

1566
01:22:11.439 --> 01:22:13.199
<v Speaker 1>A the r A.

1567
01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:16.119
<v Speaker 3>So this is all starting pitching, all starting pitching.

1568
01:22:16.119 --> 01:22:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Jacob Iss, youre asking, that's stand points.

1569
01:22:22.159 --> 01:22:26.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, what the category.

1570
01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:31.680
<v Speaker 3>Best e r A yep, starting pictures?

1571
01:22:34.520 --> 01:22:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Well that's hm hm hm hm that's annoying. I huh,

1572
01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:54.039
<v Speaker 1>it's not good for me. It's not good for me that.

1573
01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:59.319
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. We talk about YI so much too,

1574
01:22:59.560 --> 01:23:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and I boy, uh god, there's gotta be.

1575
01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:10.039
<v Speaker 3>It's it's you're correct, there has to be at least

1576
01:23:10.079 --> 01:23:10.640
<v Speaker 3>nine names.

1577
01:23:11.199 --> 01:23:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Right, No, no, No, it's just it's it's just that

1578
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:17.439
<v Speaker 1>so many of the guys that I would like have

1579
01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:22.159
<v Speaker 1>auto named, I know, have had some rough outings recently,

1580
01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:25.800
<v Speaker 1>and so like I'm trying to think what I have.

1581
01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Eduardo rodrig is stuck in because I know he's at

1582
01:23:29.720 --> 01:23:33.079
<v Speaker 1>two point six to two, okay, and I'm trying to think,

1583
01:23:33.159 --> 01:23:33.960
<v Speaker 1>like what else?

1584
01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Can I please not pick Eduardo?

1585
01:23:36.880 --> 01:23:39.439
<v Speaker 1>Can I please not pick? And this is qualified? I

1586
01:23:39.479 --> 01:23:42.399
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he's starting. I guess I'll take the guess.

1587
01:23:42.399 --> 01:23:45.359
<v Speaker 1>If he hasn't, he had some rough outings too, God

1588
01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:47.199
<v Speaker 1>damn it. You know what I'm just gonna say. EDWARDO.

1589
01:23:47.279 --> 01:23:52.039
<v Speaker 3>Rodrigues, all right, tied for six five points? Fine, Chase

1590
01:23:52.920 --> 01:23:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Chase Burns is even fifth? Yeah, so six points?

1591
01:23:57.760 --> 01:24:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Sure mm hmm. Like this, I know there are guys

1592
01:24:07.359 --> 01:24:16.239
<v Speaker 1>with like two obviously obviously above Edward Rodriguez, right, like, oh,

1593
01:24:19.439 --> 01:24:21.920
<v Speaker 1>he's probably qualified. I know he just got hurt.

1594
01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:25.760
<v Speaker 3>Kyle Harrison, Uh, he is no one thelest.

1595
01:24:25.760 --> 01:24:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh God damn it.

1596
01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Sonny Gray.

1597
01:24:30.479 --> 01:24:31.359
<v Speaker 1>You just looked at it.

1598
01:24:32.439 --> 01:24:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Sonny Gray is in fourth. Seven point. Yes, there's two

1599
01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:38.199
<v Speaker 3>guys with the two guys.

1600
01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh u, Cam Schlitzler, there you go.

1601
01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Craig takes back the lead. He's third.

1602
01:24:45.880 --> 01:24:52.359
<v Speaker 2>He's I thought was lower than two point. He was,

1603
01:24:52.880 --> 01:24:54.960
<v Speaker 2>he's had bad starts. And also it's only two point two.

1604
01:24:55.720 --> 01:24:58.279
<v Speaker 3>So you guys dodge Christopher Sanchez, who was type for fifth.

1605
01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Sanchez, I knew had had bad starts.

1606
01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I knew Burns and Gray were better than Sancho, That's why.

1607
01:25:04.279 --> 01:25:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Butto on what was nonetheless, Chris Sale is the one

1608
01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:10.880
<v Speaker 3>you guys both finished.

1609
01:25:11.039 --> 01:25:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought, I thought about Chrysale, and he has been incredible,

1610
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and I truly did not know what he was doing to.

1611
01:25:17.039 --> 01:25:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I know he's been I just never remember Chris Sale,

1612
01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:20.359
<v Speaker 2>which I think is.

1613
01:25:20.920 --> 01:25:22.840
<v Speaker 1>I looked at Atlanta and said, Chris Sale, and then

1614
01:25:22.880 --> 01:25:25.079
<v Speaker 1>I thought, I don't like. I don't know if it's

1615
01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:27.159
<v Speaker 1>low twos or if it's three pie twos.

1616
01:25:27.239 --> 01:25:30.520
<v Speaker 3>I just don't know, and then rounded out Nick Martinez,

1617
01:25:31.560 --> 01:25:35.239
<v Speaker 3>God Jesus he is eight, Max Meyer's knight, and Foster

1618
01:25:35.279 --> 01:25:41.159
<v Speaker 3>Griffin is also. Okay, all right, move on to category three.

1619
01:25:41.199 --> 01:25:45.039
<v Speaker 3>It is satisfyingly tied thirty three. Craig, your first, This

1620
01:25:45.159 --> 01:25:51.079
<v Speaker 3>is highest walk rate among qualified hitters. Hitters, yeah, hitters, Yeah,

1621
01:25:51.319 --> 01:25:52.960
<v Speaker 3>best most walks by hitters.

1622
01:25:54.199 --> 01:25:56.560
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I'm just gonna go with old faithful

1623
01:25:57.520 --> 01:25:58.279
<v Speaker 1>or on Alvarez.

1624
01:25:59.119 --> 01:25:59.479
<v Speaker 2>You're on.

1625
01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Alvarez is sixth. I'll take my point.

1626
01:26:01.880 --> 01:26:03.039
<v Speaker 1>That's fine, that's fine.

1627
01:26:03.279 --> 01:26:09.720
<v Speaker 3>One so one so is fifth for six month, Okay.

1628
01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:11.079
<v Speaker 2>I guess higher because like, why would you pitch once?

1629
01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:11.239
<v Speaker 1>Ye?

1630
01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:12.279
<v Speaker 3>Why why would.

1631
01:26:13.760 --> 01:26:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Can? I I don't know if he's I don't know

1632
01:26:16.319 --> 01:26:20.279
<v Speaker 1>what qualify. Do you know what is qualified in terms

1633
01:26:20.319 --> 01:26:22.279
<v Speaker 1>of number of later I.

1634
01:26:22.279 --> 01:26:24.279
<v Speaker 3>Think at this point it would be about a little

1635
01:26:24.319 --> 01:26:26.319
<v Speaker 3>under three hundred, three hundred or so.

1636
01:26:27.239 --> 01:26:31.800
<v Speaker 2>There have been a hundred games that Yeah, there's three

1637
01:26:31.800 --> 01:26:32.880
<v Speaker 2>point one plate appearances.

1638
01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:35.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, I will go with just another walk guy.

1639
01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>I this is not based on strong knowledgy or anything.

1640
01:26:39.159 --> 01:26:41.159
<v Speaker 1>I'll just say Max Moncy having a good season.

1641
01:26:42.199 --> 01:26:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, cool Jeff for the lead.

1642
01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm thinking I got a couple in mind, So

1643
01:26:54.279 --> 01:27:08.640
<v Speaker 2>I am going to say I feel like I think

1644
01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:13.399
<v Speaker 2>he's probably on there, but I also like don't feel

1645
01:27:13.600 --> 01:27:22.760
<v Speaker 2>great about it. Let's say Cam and Arrow he.

1646
01:27:22.720 --> 01:27:23.279
<v Speaker 3>Has not on it?

1647
01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>Really?

1648
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:25.920
<v Speaker 3>All right, Craig, you got a chance.

1649
01:27:25.760 --> 01:27:27.520
<v Speaker 2>To I can't want this year again? Why would you

1650
01:27:27.560 --> 01:27:28.359
<v Speaker 2>pitch him? Okay?

1651
01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm caught between a few a few places. I

1652
01:27:45.279 --> 01:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>this is really killing me because I don't I don't

1653
01:27:47.000 --> 01:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>know if he's qualified for the guy I really want

1654
01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:51.880
<v Speaker 1>to say, I'm just I'm not gonna say it. I

1655
01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:53.479
<v Speaker 1>guess I'll just say Kyle Schwarber again.

1656
01:27:54.079 --> 01:27:58.439
<v Speaker 3>Kyle Schwarber is tied for ninth two points.

1657
01:27:57.960 --> 01:27:59.840
<v Speaker 2>Walking Like I don't like the walky.

1658
01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:02.279
<v Speaker 3>You think you're gonna you're gonna be upset.

1659
01:28:02.520 --> 01:28:05.520
<v Speaker 2>Sure, I'm gonna. I'm gonna do one for the brand

1660
01:28:05.520 --> 01:28:06.479
<v Speaker 2>and say mcgual Vargus.

1661
01:28:07.600 --> 01:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>No, I was gonna say, Mark Commy.

1662
01:28:10.920 --> 01:28:13.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't Commy is definitely not qual.

1663
01:28:13.119 --> 01:28:15.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't think bats either.

1664
01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:20.319
<v Speaker 1>He gets hit by pitches, but he's hit by Yeah.

1665
01:28:20.079 --> 01:28:20.479
<v Speaker 1>Uh so.

1666
01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:23.159
<v Speaker 3>Starting at the top, Mike Trout nineteen point one percent.

1667
01:28:24.039 --> 01:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Kurts honestly didn't know.

1668
01:28:25.439 --> 01:28:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Nick Kurts, everyone should just forget the athletic Taylor.

1669
01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Ward Taylor words number three, James wood is number four.

1670
01:28:32.680 --> 01:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>What I thought about too, And then I was like,

1671
01:28:35.239 --> 01:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's all, Like I couldn't remember

1672
01:28:37.520 --> 01:28:37.880
<v Speaker 1>if it was all.

1673
01:28:39.359 --> 01:28:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Then rounding out the top ten, Michael Bush for all

1674
01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:44.319
<v Speaker 3>the Perdomo, Bryce Harper, and Brian Reynolds.

1675
01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:49.079
<v Speaker 2>What a list? Yeah, okay, Okay, Balds just walking more

1676
01:28:49.079 --> 01:28:50.880
<v Speaker 2>than Miguel Argus Wild Junior.

1677
01:28:52.039 --> 01:28:55.000
<v Speaker 3>All right, so Jeff, your your turn, and this time

1678
01:28:55.079 --> 01:28:58.800
<v Speaker 3>it is strikeout percentage for pictures again, starting.

1679
01:28:58.520 --> 01:29:01.399
<v Speaker 2>Pictures, starting pictures. Okay, Jacob Aus, you're asking there you

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<v Speaker 2>go ten points?

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<v Speaker 1>Just you know what, let me guess you know what

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<v Speaker 1>the sale. Let's not forget Chris Sale.

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<v Speaker 3>Chris Sale is fourth or sorry, seventh, so four points.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not right, twenty eight point nine percent. Four points?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Jeff done wide in the lead. Yeah, strike

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<v Speaker 3>out percentage, strikeout percentage.

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<v Speaker 2>Your burns walks a fair of you, guys, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>not it strikes out a lot to uh, Cam Schlittler.

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<v Speaker 3>Slittler is fifth time for fourth.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, so here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Take it away. You get supports at yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>well nonsense.

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<v Speaker 3>You should probably name movers in seconds so you can

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<v Speaker 3>climb back into this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. Thanks, Patrick, who is in second. I'm gonna he

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<v Speaker 1>walks a lot sound a great here though, Uh I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say I'm gonna say Dylan Cees mm.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm, uh no, awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh hmmm. I feel like I guy, guys, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>fairly comfortable on this list, but also I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know that's all you need.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know it's true, but like I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>open up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Of you're going for it. You're stepping on the throat. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, really cool that Jeff gets both pitching categories.

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<v Speaker 1>You get three.

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<v Speaker 3>You get to go first three times, he gets the

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<v Speaker 3>easier two times.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, in what world is going first in advantage? He

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<v Speaker 1>gets to go first with the two most obvious answers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, what are you complaining about again?

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<v Speaker 2>I will just take the points with Chase Burns.

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<v Speaker 1>You're giving me non obvious answers, and I'm a moron.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm complaining about.

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<v Speaker 3>Chase Burns is ninth gets two points? All right, Greg,

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<v Speaker 3>you're still on this if you can get one of

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<v Speaker 3>the high ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, it's just striking percent. I'm gonna say this again.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna be wrong, but I don't think he walked

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<v Speaker 6>a ton of guys before he got hurt. Ah, I'll

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<v Speaker 6>just say Kyle Harrison again.

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<v Speaker 3>Your attachment to Kyle Harrison is killing you. Fine, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>Jacob m Gram's second, Kevin.

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<v Speaker 2>M because he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought about fourth, sixth, Nolan McLain eighth.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe almost said McLain too, but I thought a huge,

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<v Speaker 2>huge strikeout guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So Jeff is up fifty five to forty one. Craig,

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<v Speaker 3>you can still do it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is okay. He gave up as mean if he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get the fourth place points.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess. So last category.

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick, by the way, only this is Patrick only ever

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<v Speaker 1>updates scores like that when he's being a dick to me,

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<v Speaker 1>like it is not Ever, he does not do this

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<v Speaker 1>in reverse. Ever, check the top.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't our next game is just guessing whatever?

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<v Speaker 3>And I almost mentioned him as a trade candidate for

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<v Speaker 3>the Red Sox and the short stuff, and I'm like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>not even good enough. All right, Last category d r

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<v Speaker 3>P Overall dr P catchers included. Who are the best

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<v Speaker 3>defenders in baseball? By our own in house defensive metric, Craig.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go first? Sure? Are you you know what Patrick?

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Mazarowski.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Yes, pictures have DRPs.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what their DRPs are. Come on, take the

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<v Speaker 3>is We need the very similitude. You need to take

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<v Speaker 3>this seriously. I don't care if you're suffering.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta ah, I'm sure, yeah, Dylan Dingler.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighth eight it's like eight, no third, eight points?

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<v Speaker 1>What is happening?

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<v Speaker 3>Even? Eight points? It's in your favorite this time? All right, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 3>you're up by six.

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<v Speaker 2>The guess that I was gonna make Now I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>little annoyed. Uh P Crow Armstrong.

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<v Speaker 3>He is fourth, so seven points all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hm, I hate this.

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<v Speaker 3>You still got a shot man?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't because I don't. I honestly thought Dylan

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<v Speaker 1>Dingler was gonna be first.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a little surprised. But Catcher, you catch your defenses

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<v Speaker 3>down this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what other I mean. I was assuming

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<v Speaker 1>it would be a Catcher then, but it's not Pekron.

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<v Speaker 3>No, there are two people above what's that? There are

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<v Speaker 3>two people above them both?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, apparently, I'll say Don Rafaela.

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<v Speaker 3>He is six, So you get five points? All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Still technically in it, Jeff, you can you can close

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<v Speaker 3>it up by getting by getting at least uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>two points or three points?

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<v Speaker 2>On which center fielder I want to pick? H mm hmmmmmm,

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<v Speaker 2>it's only gets played enough. What center fielder do I

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<v Speaker 2>want to pick? Let's go with me and Byron Buxton.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not on there opened the door, right, Craig, you

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<v Speaker 3>got two, two guesses that can put you in the league.

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<v Speaker 4>I The thing is, I don't think I.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't the one I want to guess. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think DRP actually likes even though I think he's having

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<v Speaker 1>a very I think by most metrics, he's having a

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<v Speaker 1>very good defensive year. Yeah, I'm just I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>have I don't have a good sense. I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>Dancey Swanson he.

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<v Speaker 3>Is not on the list, all right, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>Just for the bit, I will say Louis Trends he.

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<v Speaker 3>Is also not on the list, alright. Alright. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>the the going from the bottom up, Evan Carter three

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<v Speaker 3>point seven, Garrett at three point eight from from the

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<v Speaker 3>bot you're starting, Yeah, ten, because we've got to finish

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<v Speaker 3>with the two guys who couldn't need Cal Rawley somehow

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<v Speaker 3>at eight despite missing a lunch of time and also

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<v Speaker 3>hitting like hitting like the trash bag on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Mangum Mater Jake Mangum.

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<v Speaker 3>Cody Bellinger in fifth, But the two Corbyn Carroll seven

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<v Speaker 3>point nine is second place, and your hero and mine,

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<v Speaker 3>Chandler Simpson still now by far the best defensive player

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<v Speaker 3>in baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this isn't just an entire troll drop.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we're done.

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<v Speaker 3>And now we're done.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg, thank you for joining us on this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>five and Dive, brought to you by the Baseball Perspectives

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