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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show, Pete. I figure I would

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bring you good news first, and I wanted to let

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you know it has been six hundred nine or sixteen

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hundred nineteen days since George Floyd got sober.

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Speaker 1: Wow, has it really been that long?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? May twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Wow, time is flying by way too fast. Man, It's

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so funny. Somebody like somebody who's like said on Twitter

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the other day, you were like an an cap yesterday,

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and I'm like, I can give I can give you

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a episodes from like three and a half years ago

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where I'm like, yeah, I don't call myself an endcap anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think what I discovered you was early twenty twenty one,

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because I started the show October of twenty twenty one,

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and I've even changed my perspective on quite a few things.

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But I know for you, you've been very vocal about your changes.

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And I think one of the things I've had nauseum

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said about you is that I respect you the most

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because you've always been open about the things that you've

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changed your mind on, and I think people being able

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to see that, the assholes are never going to believe you,

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or they're going to say you're a grifter, you're just

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kind of hopping on the latest thing. But I think

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it's a genuine change, and I think anybody that comes

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out specifically when their financial benefit is at risk.

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Speaker 3: I just have a mense respect for that.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean thanks. I lost a lot of listeners,

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but and I really haven't gained them all back. But

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what I found out was the listeners I have an

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hour just so much more hardcore, I mean, so willing

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to get involved with the show. Can you have this

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person on? And it's like, home, I haven't even thought

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to have that person. Can you talk about this subject?

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I didn't even thoughts I have this? So it's like

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it's sort of like the no agenda guys say that

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like they have producers, and sometimes it feels like I

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have producers where it's like I don't even have to

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come up with the idea for the show. Is just

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I just have to figure out who to interview. And

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then a lot of times they'll be like, well, you

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want to interview this guy, and here's his ad on

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Twitter and everything, or I already spoke to him about

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it and area thing, so that's pretty nice. And then

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you know, I think that one of the things that

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I've helped do and I'm seeing more people do, is

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innovate readings, doing like whole readings of books over multiple

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episodes and commentsing on them, and I think, not only

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does it get me reading books that I haven't read

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in years or there are a couple of the books

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where I read live on air I hadn't read before,

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but it also introduces old books that are long out

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of print, very hard to find, extremely expensive. And you know,

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there's a reason a lot of those books. There's a

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reason why you can find, you know, nineteen eighty four

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an animal farm everywhere. There's reasons why you can't find

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Race War in high school for under five hundred dollars,

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or you know, like ice Breaker, or buy Victor suver

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They like this. I mean, now I go back and

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read nineteen eighty four and I'm like, oh, this is quaint,

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this is nice. I loved her. I loved her. Twenty

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twenty guy, it's like this, this is hilarious. But yeah,

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so yeah, no, it's it's it's nice to be reaching

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a whole bunch of new people. But you know how

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many people actually came over with me, you know who

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we were there in the Libertarian and n CAP days.

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ride all the way with me, and they're still with me,

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and they're like, I remember, I go all the way

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back to the man Stays and the Man's rated it,

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and I'm like, yeah, I'm I'm glad you took the

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ride with me. Lets me know, you know, when I

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know thousands of people took the ride with me, that

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lets me know I wasn't crazy.

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the new thing is for the OPMC guys, which I

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have no personal problems with any of these people, but

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I saw they're putting together dissident media and it kind

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of seems like, hey, we're trying to cast this wide

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net again to capture in some of this new dissident

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right deal. And I know that you're kind of rubbing

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elbows with a lot of people in that realm, but

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I know that you've also kind of made it clear

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that you like don't necessarily identify with that. And I

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don't want to put words in your mouth, but like,

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it seems like a lot of people who were formerly

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libertarians are starting to move over into this space and

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cynical about it, but I also want to look at

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it objectively, and I don't want it to be something

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that's like, you know, I left the left, where generally

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people who say I left the left never really left the.

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Speaker 1: Left, and that's and that's how you get the woke right. Well,

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I'll tell you I saw that there's a dissidant media.

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I don't even really I don't like the term dissident.

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I mean, it's nice to see the Libertarian Party in

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the Libertarian Party chair like sitting down with the presumptive

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presidential winner and you know, making moves. You know, for that,

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that's something I was saying to do three and a

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half years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I won.

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Speaker 1: When I was leaving the Mesa's Caucus, leaving the MUSA,

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I'm like, well, you know, yeah, yeah, have to. If

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you're going to get anything accomplished, you're going to have

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to do it through one of the two parties. And

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the left is and the Democrat Party is not going

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to have anything to do with you, so you might

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as well just start sidling up to the right, you know,

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to the Republican Party. And you know it takes time,

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because you know, Trump was out of the limelight at

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that time. Then you know he's back in the limelight,

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and it seems like they, you know, he's at least listening.

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I find a hard time to believe any of them

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will work in a multicultural society with three hundred and

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fifty million people, but at least they're at least they're trying,

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you know. And one of the things that I'm happy

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about is is that I know for a fact that

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a lot of the people who are not in power

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right now but are in Trump's orbit, they listen to

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us over on our side of the right. I mean,

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jd Vance follows on Twitter, like half of my mutuals,

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a billionaire like Mark Andresen is retweeting talking about Reading Burnham.

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He's been talking about that for a few years now,

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reading James Burnham, and it's like, and I know, libertarian,

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so like, you know, he was a Neocon I'm like,

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there are still things, you know, there are things you

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can learn from people that you don't agree with one

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hundred I've read I've read Marks on my show, and

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I've read Lennon on my show, and I've covered Stalin

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and I'm covering, you know, the biggest left left to

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Gillian in the twentieth century right now on my show.

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There are things that you can learn a lot from

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that you can take from people that you don't agree

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one hundred percent with, but they're a status who cares.

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But no, you know, it's like now we're seeing people

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who we're seeing that the Libertarian Party is doing what

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it should have done all along. It should it should

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always have been and an appendage of the Republican Party

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getting them to move towards you know how whatever you know,

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and it may even be things that I don't agree

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with anymore, but I can still appreciate using power and

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using leverage and even if you don't have leverage, just

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making friends.

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Speaker 3: M hm.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's like I've said, I don't want any of these

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people in charge. I want my friends in charge. I

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want my I want my friends to rule. I want

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my friends to be in joy I want my I

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want a friend to be president. I want a friend

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mayor of my town. I want a friend to be sheriff.

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Just go make friends with these people. There's no real

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Trump seems like one of the genuinely nicest people that

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i've I mean, if you really watch him, I think

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he's a genuinely nice person. My friend, he likes to

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he he listens to people. He's interested in people, you know.

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things that impress me. And by the way, I don't

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think Trump's like the savior or anything. I wish Trump was.

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I wish Trump was ten percent of what people on

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the left say here.

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Speaker 3: I agree that a.

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Speaker 1: Fascist, you know, but watching him, like at that drive

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through thing and these people come up and someone said, oh,

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I want to thank you for coming out here, you

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know and talking to ordinary people like us, And the

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first thing out of his mouth, he doesn't even think

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about it. He goes, you're not ordinary. And I'm like,

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that's somebody who's listening to the words that are coming

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out of somebody's mouth and repeating him back to him.

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just listening to people's words all the time to waiting

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to critique them, which is basically what the libertarian, the

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whole libertarian and cap world is is you're listening to

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people's works so that you can tear them apart and

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then give them a critique and correct them. Well, that

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doesn't make friends. Yeah, you want to make friends with people.

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I've some of the people who was hardest, the hardest

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thing to do to change your mind was they had

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to know that I cared about them first, and I do.

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I genuinely do care about people who come to me,

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and they come to me honestly and they're like, look,

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I have a problem with something you said. Okay, let's

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talk about it, talk it out and everything. And I'm

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not gonna apologize for anything I said. I will try

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to explain why I said it, but genuinely, if you

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ask anyone who I've gotten to know, some people who

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are very very successful and very very wealthy, they'll tell

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you I could not do this alone. I could not

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do this alone. I had to have people who liked me,

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people who are willing to help, people who I had

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to be friendly with in order to get where I am.

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He goes and you know, somebody will say like, and

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maybe at first I didn't really want to kiss up

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to this person, but then I found out, Wow, I

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really like this person, and now they're like, if something

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happens to me that I consider to be a success,

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that's the first person I called to tell. Not my family,

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it's this person I called to tell. And that person

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will be genuinely as genuinely happy for me as one

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of my parents will be, you know, if their parents

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are still alive kind of thing. So I think that

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that's really important, and I think a lot of people

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always love it when people feel like they can share

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good news with me because that means that, like they

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understand that we have something good between us, Like I

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remember I messaged you, and I can't believe that this

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is like a year and a half ago now, when

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately that went the way that it did, But you know.

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Speaker 2: Just stuff like that and you're like, hey man, you know,

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I'm happy for you. Shit like that, you know, means

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the world to me and to most other people, they

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give a shit to note that, Hey, somebody's out there listening.

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Somebody gives a shit, And it's not like it takes

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that much time. Just let's say, hey, you know, I

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hope you're doing well.

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Speaker 3: Man. You know, just sending that kind of text or

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a message to somebody like that. It's funny when I.

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Speaker 1: Say, I look at it, Look the way I look

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at it is. People reach out to me all the

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time and say, this is what just happened to me.

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I couldn't be happier. I just had a kid, I

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just bought a house, I just got this job, I

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just did this amazing thing. The fact that they're sharing

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that with me is remarkable to me. I'm a stranger

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to most of these people, and they want to share

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this moment with me. Why would I sh The way

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I look at it is if I could ever meet

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that person face to face and get we're going to

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be friends. We're going to be friends, We're going to

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exchange numbers, and we'll probably be in contact a lot.

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problem I had with a lot of libertarianism is and

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not a lot of the libertarian leaders I mean, I

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couldn't have done the kind of things I did if

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Tom Woods and Dave Smith and you know, Mark Clair,

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all these people, Scott Horton, they were all so friendly

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with me. And you know, by the way, I'm still

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friendly with all of them. You know I could Tom

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Woods invites me to his Christmas parties. Okay, I get,

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I get. We were texting today. I text Dave Smith

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all the time. Scott Horton and I were just cut.

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We were We were just talking the other day, texting

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back and forth about his new book and everything, and

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you know, had we had a couple of laughs. Why

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You know, we've shared you know, I was when when

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Dave's son was born and he was sick and everything,

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I was there. I wanted to be like, I'm praying

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for him. You know this, Tom Tom knows he can

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do any ask me for anything. Scott Scott knows they

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can ask me for anything. I'm going to be there

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for him. And there something that's way in that sense,

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there's something that's way more important than politics because when

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it comes down to it, or if we really sat

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down and started comparing we're probably like twenty percent away.

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unless you're extremely to the left, and I don't even

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know what extremely to the right is.

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Speaker 2: You go to church? Yeah anymore? Yeah, Well, there's something

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you highlight right there that I really liked. It's that,

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you know, I've heard you talk about the single live

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streams too. When it came to like voting, I remember

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you you kind of went off, and rightfully so about

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people who always say, oh, you get what you vote for.

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I could never stand that shit, because it's like, I

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don't think people literally go to the ballot box and think, oh,

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I want some third world or to come up and

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punch me in the face.

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Speaker 3: That is nobody's interest. Nobody wants that. And then I

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think later.

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Speaker 1: On, nobody wants h nobody's voting for higher taxes, No

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one's voting for No you're getting these things because it's

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in a managerial regime. The regime is going to do

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what it does no matter who's in charge. When I'm

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talking about voters, the people, the elected officials, you have

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this system that works beneath the elected officials that doesn't move,

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hasn't moved since nineteen thirty three, and that's what needs

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to be taken apart. So it's like when I I'm

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looking for a politician who recognizes that and is like, Okay, well,

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here's my plan to try to take that apart. Because

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until that gets taken apart, you're not getting anything you want.

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You know, I'm not getting a right wing you know,

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Catholic whatever, and that's not exactly what I want. And

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no one's getting No one's getting their trad cath no

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one's getting their libertarianism, no one's getting until that managerial

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regime gets taken apart. And really, the only couple people

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I've heard talk about that managerial regime in any way

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and talk about needs to be dismantling are Vivic Robaswani

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and Jade Evans. So do I think that if Trump

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gets elected and jad events as his vice president, that

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the managerial the managerial state is going to be destroyed. No,

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but I'm hoping that, you know, they can start chipping

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away at it. I mean, I know Elon Musk wants

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to Walter Litnik, who is part of the transition team

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to the head of Kenner Fitzgerald. He's talked about it too.

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about having a a bitcoin being an m one reserve

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alongside bold and silver and oil, and trying to get

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stopped so that war is not an m one reserve anymore.

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so that he says we need to have a military.

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be paying for things that are out of date, and

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he actually comes up with these incredible like formulas where

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you could actually pay for the military without actually paying

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for the military. And it's just, I mean, these are

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the kind of people that I'm I'm interested in, and

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none of the people I just mentioned are far I

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would consider to be far right, so I don't think

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of a vague I think JD would probably be the

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closest person to meet politically. And then Walter, Walter Latnik

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is just a you know, he's he's an investor kind

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of guy. I think, who is you know, probably in

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the classical liberal camp, but probably more realizing the classical

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liberalism as a trap because if if you classical liberalism

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is where you somehow where you get the what the

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woke right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, there were two things I want to mainly

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talk to you about, and I'm glad you're kind of

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hitting on this. When I first heard the term woke right,

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I was so the first thing that came to my mind, Oh,

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they have to be referring to the people who are

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rabid Zionists that anytime you say anything that even hints

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it like Jewish people as a whole, they call you

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an anti Semite and say you should be silenced, because

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I mean, there's tons of governors and tons of Republicans

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that do shit like this all the time, but they weren't.

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And that was the strangest thing to me, because I'm like, oh,

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this is like woke to a te right, you know.

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I mean you literally have people saying, oh, Jewish kids

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feel uncomfortable in college campuses, so therefore we need speech

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laws and safe spaces like that sounds pretty woke to me.

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So if you're saying woke right and that's who you're identifying, okay,

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I guess I agree. I don't know that I would

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like use that term, but it makes sense at least.

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But then constantin Kissing was the dude that coined the time.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we even know that guy's name. I don't

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why do we know that guy's name. I'm aggressive. He's

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not intelligent at all. His father was. He was an

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oligarch in Russia in the nineties. I mean one of

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the most evil. I mean those people were evil. I

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mean they were starving people to death. The average age

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of a Russian man dropped twelve years in the nineteen

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because of what those scumbags were fucking. You know, the

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seven or eight oligarchs, like Kissing's dad, How they were

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raping that country and raping that country and sending all

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of its resources and everything to another much smaller country

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in the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, okay, So what did you think of when you

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first heard this term woke right? Because I know that

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you've kind of dug into a lot of historical literature recently,

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so I'm kind of curious, like what your genesis of

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this whole situation is like when you look at it.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so it came out of the The left

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didn't leave the left. I didn't leave the left. The

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left left me group. So as far as I know,

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James Lindsay was the first one to come up with it. Guy,

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what Scot, I'm so Glad when libertarians were having him

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on his show and being like, oh my god, another

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leftist who is saying base things. Why do we always

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have to be trying to kiss the ass of leftists

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who are saying base things. I say based things. Oh

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you're on the right though, that means you're mean, but

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the left is he means, well, he's just misguided. You know,

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you remember that old thing the communists were They meant well,

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they were just misguided. Those fascists over there, they just

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wanted to kill everybody. And but it's all those people

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who are who are like, I didn't leave the left,

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The left left me, and so it's kissing. Then you

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look at people like James Lindsay obviously Dave Rubin and

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all these guys who were leftists and who railed against

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the woke. The reason they started becoming friendly to the

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right is because or conservatism, which I mean, I don't

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even think there's a right wing in this country, because

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I think conservativism is left wing essentially, it's classical role

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classism is left wing. Sorry I'm not going to explain

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any further, but they all came over here. And then

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you have other people who did the same thing who

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realized that this whole woke phenomenon and started to rail

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against it, woke on the left on college campuses, things

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like that, people like Tucker Carlson and candas Owans. Okay,

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so everyone who's being everyone who's accusing everybody of being

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woke right is in that camp. But they call Tucker

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Carlson and Candae Sowans woke right why because they're the

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only ones in that camp who were speaking out against Israel.

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They're the only ones that are questioning Jewish power. So

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and then it's this complete thing where you accuse your

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enemy of accuse your enemy of what you're doing. So

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they're against you know, oh, these people on campus who

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want to stifle free speech. And then you have somebody

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like a Jewish billionaire like Bill Ackman, who puts all

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this money into getting black people mostly fired from college

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campuses because they're not sufficiently shutting people down for free

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speech because they're talking about Israel. It's like, oh, I

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need a safe space because words are violence. Oh oh

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you need a safe space, you pour you know, and

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so here comes Ben Shapiro, you know, here comes Ben

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Shapiro around the corner to make fun of you for

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wanting a safe space. But then someone says from the

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river to the sea, and you're like, oh my god,

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oh my god, oh my god. They want genocide, they

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want to kill it. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I

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think you know. And Dave did. Dave did a stream

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on this a couple of weeks ago that was really good.

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Glenn Greenwald did a twelve minute video on the woke

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Right that I mean just nailed it. I mean, I mean,

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he nailed it perfectly. It's all these people who are

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screaming woke right are the woke right, because they're the

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ones who are I don't care what you call me.

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If you can call me anything you want, I don't

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want to. I don't want to shut it down. You

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can say you I want to kill half Spanish, Polish,

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Hungarian guys I think they should, and I'll be like,

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come and get me. I don't. I don't. I'm not gonna.

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If I had power, I wouldn't try to shut you down.

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I'd be laughing at you. But these people don't have.

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But the only power they have is basically get people.

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Can't try to get people canceled and things like that.

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So when you see woke right being thrown at. Somebody

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whoever the term woke right is getting thrown at is

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a critic of Israel. Whoever is saying is accusing someone

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of being woke Right's pro Israel as a Zionist is

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a full on ziis, which Constantine Kissing is, which Ben

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Shapiro is, which Dave Reuben is, which I don't know

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that James Lindsay is like a hardcore Zionist, but he

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will not questioned, you know, he won't question Zionism at all.

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Speaker 2: He said something, and this was kind of the I

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had lots of moments of just I was always skeptical

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of him, but I remember him saying something to the

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degree of like, the Palestines will genocide Israel. I'm like,

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and what world are you living in where that's even

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remote possibility.

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Speaker 1: The Israelis have killed one thousand Palestinians in the last

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seven days. They've killed a thousand Palestinians in the last

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seven days. There's a hospital that they that they attacked,

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that the IDEF attack, and they shot the son of

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the director of the hospital right in front of him.

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They just executed him right in front of him. They're

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bombing bowback today in Lebanon, one of the classic I mean,

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like there are megalithic structures there that divine reason. And

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then they're going into Lebanon and Lebanon which is a

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thirty percent Christian country and just you know, destroying Bay

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00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,920
Root a Southern Bay route. I mean, I understand the difference.

475
00:26:08,039 --> 00:26:10,079
Southern Bay routes mostly Shiah, that's where most of their

476
00:26:10,079 --> 00:26:13,319
bombs are dropping. But still, I mean, these people are

477
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,400
just monsters. I mean, how how am I supposed to

478
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:23,440
look at they can drop? It was I think Colonel

479
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:31,880
McGregor said, eighty two ton bombs on five apartment buildings

480
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,519
or six apartment buildings. I mean that's insane. Okay, yet,

481
00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:39,759
and we're not supposed to We're supposed to go, well,

482
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,880
you know there were tunnels under there, which there were,

483
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,640
there were hes blot tunnels under there. But wouldn't it

484
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,720
be really nice if you like you've made sure before

485
00:26:46,759 --> 00:26:49,799
you like you weren't going to kill nineteen hundred people

486
00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:54,079
in one strike who they're just trying to live their lives.

487
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,279
They're not hiding the people, they're not hiding hesbela there.

488
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,279
They're just people trying to live their lives. There was

489
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:03,920
a serial killer under your fucking under your house, and

490
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,640
they bombed your fucking house because they needed to get

491
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,279
that serial killer. You might have something to say like, hey,

492
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:12,160
why don't you come knock on the door, right, you know?

493
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,559
And then when Iran launches I think one hundred and

494
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:23,200
eighty missiles at Israel, and how many civilians did they kill?

495
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 3: They killed one Palestinium.

496
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was one Palestinian that right, So they launched

497
00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:33,200
one hundred missiles I think one hundred and twenty landed.

498
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,960
No matter what you've heard, it was one hundred and twenty.

499
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,960
I mean, I've seen the footage. It's just one after another,

500
00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:43,440
all military targets, all military or some kind of infrastructure

501
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,920
target that would that would be used for the military.

502
00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:51,920
They didn't aim at civilians. So let me just take

503
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:57,039
those two. I have to choose between the people who

504
00:27:57,039 --> 00:28:02,599
are dropping bombs on residential apartment buildings and those who

505
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,039
are letting you know the bombs are coming in the

506
00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:10,720
first place, and then hitting military targets and they only

507
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:13,480
kill one person that Israel doesn't care about, and Israel

508
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:19,240
considers to be subhuman looking from the outside, without knowing

509
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:23,160
that players in that, I would, well, here are the barbarians.

510
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,200
Oh no, but human shields. Go fuck yourself with your

511
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:30,680
human shields. Bullshit, Where did you get that from? What?

512
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,720
What newspaper New York Times? Who owns it? The suls

513
00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:41,079
Burger family, Where would you get that from? Come on,

514
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:46,200
come on, people, there are tribes out there that act

515
00:28:46,359 --> 00:28:50,559
in their own interest. And let's remember what Thomas Massey

516
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,440
told us. Everyone in Congress has an apac babysitter except him.

517
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: Yep.

518
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,559
Speaker 2: Well, and one thing that I've always made this argument

519
00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:04,079
because it's so frustrating when people say, oh, well, Israel's

520
00:29:04,079 --> 00:29:05,920
the most the idea of is the most moral army

521
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,319
because they drop leaflets. It's like, okay, Well, if Pete,

522
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:11,839
if I were to come to your house and tell you, hey,

523
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,119
if you're not gone within three hours, I'm going to

524
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,599
come here and blow your entire room to smotherings, does

525
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,039
that make it okay? And I understand you people want

526
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:24,240
to separate morality and war in peace time, but you

527
00:29:24,319 --> 00:29:27,279
can't fucking kill kids, and you can't bomb hospitals with

528
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,200
civilians in it and take out maternity wards and every

529
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,319
single functional.

530
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,799
Speaker 1: Hospital sixty percent of the victims and gods are women

531
00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:35,359
and children.

532
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: Yep.

533
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,799
Speaker 1: And they and here's the thing, Okay, they're not upset

534
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:44,079
about that. They don't consider them to be cat you know.

535
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,640
It's like, well, we were trying to get somebody who's

536
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,759
responsible for the death of a lot of people and

537
00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:54,880
these people were in the way. We feel really bad

538
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,799
about it, but it had to be done. You know, God,

539
00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:03,599
have mercy on our soul. No, that's not how they

540
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,279
it's you. You're either a cheerleader for them or you're

541
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:11,559
an anti semi you're woke, right, you're you have You're

542
00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:13,839
not even allowed to be neutral. We found that out

543
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,799
after October seventh. After October seventh, you found out it

544
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:21,920
was not It wasn't enough to be anti anti Semitic.

545
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:27,559
You need to be like Philo Semitic. You have to

546
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:31,400
be you have to be completely on their side. And

547
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,119
I'm sorry. I mean, I've i have never ever, ever,

548
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:42,160
ever benefit I've never made excuses for Israel. I've World

549
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:48,279
War Two was fought because you're not allowed to have

550
00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:54,359
Ethno states anymore. Germany needs to be destroyed England. England

551
00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:57,680
was an Ethno state when it started nineteen forty eight.

552
00:30:57,799 --> 00:31:01,079
The wind Rush ship started showing up Jamaicans, and then

553
00:31:01,119 --> 00:31:05,319
it was just and they Europe had to become this

554
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:12,279
you know, sea of of mud basically to destroy them.

555
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,880
And then you look at you know, some of the

556
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,279
biggest like people talk about Catholic charities in this country

557
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:19,440
and then you like look at their board and it's like,

558
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,440
who are all these Catholics with whose last names end

559
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,480
with Steinberg and Wits. And then you look at Hebrew

560
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,400
Immigranade Society, which even Chris Ruffo, who's you know, basically

561
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,839
accusing everybody of being an anti semi now if they're

562
00:31:32,839 --> 00:31:36,759
against Israel, said in an article that he wrote recently

563
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:40,240
that the Hebrew Immigrantade Society was responsible for bringing all

564
00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:48,680
the Haitians into Charleroi, Pennsylvania. Well, it's Jewish, technically Jewish

565
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,519
Family and Children Services, which is a division of Hebrew

566
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:58,440
Immigranate Society highest which our National Security Advisor Alejandro majorcus

567
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,880
is or is it is he had a Department of

568
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,240
Homeland Security that he's the head of the Department of

569
00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:05,759
Homeland Security. He used to be the president of the

570
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:10,400
Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society. And you wonder why our borders

571
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,279
are open, and you wonder.

572
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,519
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, there's always been something odd with me

573
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:24,799
about the Republican Party being so fervently Zionist. But all Desigonists,

574
00:32:24,839 --> 00:32:28,039
Israelis and Jews are all very very pro open borders.

575
00:32:28,039 --> 00:32:30,400
I mean you had even had that Yahu saying, yeah,

576
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:31,359
I think the rest of the world is going to

577
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,720
take on these Palestinians as we ethnically cleanse them out

578
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:35,599
of Palestine.

579
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,319
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, no one wants them. And there's the

580
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:45,160
reason for that. The Palestinians are not Palestinian leadership. It

581
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,279
is they're not good people historically. I was talking about

582
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,359
with a friend of mine, Hunger there. Well, they're put

583
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,599
it this way, they're not good for your country. I

584
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,960
was talking about my friend, my friend Hunger, who's a let.

585
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,400
He has dual citizenship in Lebanon and he goes to

586
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,519
Lebanon all the time. He has family in Lebanon. I

587
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,400
think he has a business in Lebanon. And he said

588
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,839
that what really started this whole thing with Lebanon and

589
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:19,839
Hezbollah and everything. Basically Hesbola came into existence because Palestinians

590
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:24,200
were ethnically cleansed out of Israel into Lebanon, and then

591
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,680
they started causing a lot of shit. And I've heard

592
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,160
the same thing about when they go into Egypt they

593
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,720
become very subversive, and which you know, Sheldon Richmond thinks

594
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,720
that the Palestinians are actually the real Jews, that they've

595
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,000
been there for two thousand years and they converted to

596
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:43,599
Islam over the time, which would explain a lot. But

597
00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:48,759
the you find out that wherever they go, they cause problems.

598
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:52,799
And I'm not saying that like I like the Palestinians.

599
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,480
I'm saying that they're fighting against what I consider to

600
00:33:56,519 --> 00:34:00,559
be my enemy, Zionists who control the banks, control Hollywood,

601
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:05,160
control pornography, control, give us feminism. I'm not saying this.

602
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,079
Dennis Prager said this. Dennis Prager is the one who

603
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:12,239
said that everyism, except for Nazism is came from Jews

604
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,039
and everything. I'm like, Okay, then I'm gonna believe you.

605
00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:18,760
I'm gonna choose to believe you. Okay. Yeah. Was that

606
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,239
a good thing? Feminism? A good thing for this country?

607
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,960
Was the Civil Rights Act a good thing for this country?

608
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:27,880
Gay rights? Was that a good thing for this country? Now?

609
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,199
I'm one of these people who I don't think we

610
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,960
should be knocking on people gay people's doors and like

611
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,559
you know, pulling them out in black, baging them and

612
00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:41,639
taking them and killing them. But go back, go back

613
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:46,159
in the closet, really go back in the closet. I mean,

614
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:50,159
if you're we can't have open degeneracy, and we can't

615
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:54,320
have we can't have this. It's not good for the culture.

616
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,840
I mean, ever since all of this happened, has the

617
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,239
culture gotten better? Has government gotten better? Governments? You used

618
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,760
it as a way to take more power over us.

619
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,039
And that's one thing that like a lot of libertarians

620
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:09,440
can't figure out because they want to make everything about economics.

621
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:12,760
Economics is just the tool, it is just one of

622
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,159
the tools they use. But really what they have to

623
00:35:16,159 --> 00:35:18,800
do is they have to set up a culture in

624
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,679
which they can use that economics to start funneling money

625
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,880
all over the place. And you have to create minorities

626
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:32,239
and victim groups that we you know, we need money

627
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,679
for them, and you know they need our prayers, and

628
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,440
we really have to be nice to them and everything.

629
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,440
You know. It's like, I mean, a couple of years ago,

630
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,480
I lost a Twitter account because I said, I pointed

631
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:47,400
out that it was only gay men who were getting

632
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:54,599
monkey pox, and then monkey pox exited the news the

633
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,000
day after an article came out saying that dogs and

634
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:06,079
children were getting monkey pops. Okay, what am I supposed

635
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:11,039
to put together there? You know what points am I

636
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:15,920
supposed to connect there? Now? I'm I'm sorry. You can

637
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,719
you can have the greatest economics in the world, and

638
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,519
you know, and then and then, and then a bunch

639
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:24,199
of people come in and go, well, if you have

640
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,599
good economics, you know, it makes people make good decisions

641
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:34,159
and people have people get Look what happens when someone

642
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:39,239
wins the lottery. Usually they go broken, like what two

643
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:45,199
three years? Alcoholism, drug use. That's not what makes people happy,

644
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,400
That's not what changes people's I forget, what's the word

645
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:55,480
the Austrian economists use their preference? Well, I mean we

646
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,920
know most people have a high time preference, but I forget.

647
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,679
I'll remember, I'll remember it probably as soon as we

648
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,480
log off. But yeah, I mean it's what you're looking

649
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:10,679
at is I mean, I can understand good economics, and

650
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,159
I'd love to have good economics in this country too,

651
00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:15,480
but good economics is not gonna help if you have

652
00:37:15,639 --> 00:37:20,119
a you're not going to fix the economics in this country.

653
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:22,920
And then all of a sudden. People are going to

654
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:27,320
get better. People are going to somehow stop being sinners

655
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:32,639
or whatever degenerates. They're not going to have poor impulses.

656
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:38,199
They're not going to stop acting in degenerate ways. I mean,

657
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,159
it could there could be not enough money for them

658
00:37:41,199 --> 00:37:43,960
to do it. But then again, if they don't have

659
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:47,840
enough money to do when crime go up, wouldn't there

660
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,280
be you know, when they seek to steal. I mean,

661
00:37:50,519 --> 00:37:53,440
and that's not me advocating for giving people money. I mean,

662
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:58,119
I'd rather just kill them really, but or I mean,

663
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:04,039
or I'm on an island, empty the empty the Indian

664
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:06,400
reservations and put them in there or something like that,

665
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,320
and build an electric fence around it. Do something so

666
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,400
we can't live like this anymore. I mean, people are Yeah.

667
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,119
I love how people were screaming, oh the crime rate

668
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:18,599
was going down, the crime rate was going down, and

669
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:22,360
then recently it comes that the FBI was just absolutely

670
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,719
hiding and it was like three times higher than it

671
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,760
actually was. It's like, come on, come on, why is

672
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,119
this happening. It's not because it's not because we don't

673
00:38:31,159 --> 00:38:34,480
have bitcoin. It's not because bitcoin isn't the money of

674
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:40,480
the land. Okay, Yeah, Bitcoin doesn't. Bitcoin doesn't fix people's

675
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:45,639
you know, it doesn't fix people's inclinations. Yeah.

676
00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:47,519
Speaker 2: I mean, you go to any major city across the

677
00:38:47,639 --> 00:38:50,280
US right now, Pittsburgh, i' Milwaukee is still.

678
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: Kind of a nice city. But I mean.

679
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: I was in New York for a general motors training thing,

680
00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:59,800
and I remember seeing people nobody.

681
00:38:59,280 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 3: Who looked like me.

682
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: I mean, like the people who were obviously like mechanics

683
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,159
and salesmen mostly, you know, or average white guys. You obviously,

684
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,519
like some black and Mexicans filled in there too, But

685
00:39:08,639 --> 00:39:11,559
like when there were just hordes of immigrants standing in

686
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:14,280
a New York hotels like this is kind of strange,

687
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,920
and not of them speak English, so it's like, well,

688
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,599
what the hell are you doing here?

689
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:26,079
Speaker 1: Immigration is the number one thing. If you want prices

690
00:39:26,119 --> 00:39:29,760
to go down to port twenty million people, if you

691
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,679
want prices to go down on housing, if you want

692
00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:35,280
prices to go down on food, they could always produce

693
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,800
less to keep the prices high something like that, but

694
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,320
definitely housing, I mean they would have to make more.

695
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,280
They would have to immediately build more housing in order

696
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:46,440
for housing not to prices not to go down. You're

697
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,440
also going to solve the homeless problem. I mean, one

698
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,559
of the reasons you have a homeless problem in California

699
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:53,199
is is one, people can't afford to live out there too,

700
00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:57,480
regulations stop or stopping people from building from new building.

701
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,400
And three it's I mean the weather or if you're

702
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,679
gonna be homeless somewhere at least, damn do it where

703
00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:05,800
you can look good. Way, do it where you can

704
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,679
get a good tand and the weather is nice and

705
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,719
even look good. But immigration is the biggest thing. I mean,

706
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,400
we just you know, I my family, my mom's family

707
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,519
has been here since the early eighteen hundreds. I fought,

708
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:22,280
you know, people on that side who fought in the war,

709
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,400
the horrible you know, the terror of the worst war

710
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:31,519
we ever got into. And you know, I'm just I mean,

711
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:34,480
there's some people on my dad's side of the family

712
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:40,320
that I'd like to see go back, even the other citizens,

713
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,079
I'll like to see them go back. But I mean, really,

714
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:44,599
we can't, just can't. We have too many people there.

715
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,039
They're not from a culture that prizes anything. My biggest

716
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:52,519
problems with libertarians and open borders has always been that,

717
00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:54,760
you know, I was an open borders libertarian at one time,

718
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,039
I thought it was, you know, that's the only way

719
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:59,360
because you know, fuck the police, and the police are

720
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,119
the ones that have to keep would have to be

721
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,559
would have to patrol the borders, and fuck the state

722
00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:06,239
because the state would be doing it, you know. And

723
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,679
if you're a libertarian and you're like hoping for a

724
00:41:08,679 --> 00:41:11,280
libertarian society, especially an an cap like I mean, I've

725
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,119
had an caps tell me on Twitter, like recently, say

726
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,599
we're going to see a Capistan in my lifetime and

727
00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:24,400
I'm like, yeah, your fucking mind.

728
00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:24,079
Speaker 3: Yeah you're not going to be there. Though none of

729
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:25,599
those people say that are going to be there.

730
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: You're literally retarded. I mean, go ask your go ask

731
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,519
your leaders if they think if they asked Tom Woods,

732
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:36,880
ask Dave Smith, that asks Scott Horton, if they think

733
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,280
they're going to see you're going to see narco capitalism

734
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,760
in their lifetime, you know, on some mass scale, you

735
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,360
know what I mean, see it on a small scale,

736
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:49,960
you know, you have to. I'd become less and less

737
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,079
of a Thomas Soul fan every time because I realized

738
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,360
it realized he just wrote the same book over and

739
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,159
over again for the most part, like in the last

740
00:41:56,159 --> 00:41:58,599
twenty years, but you know, he did say that there's

741
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:00,840
no such there's no such thing as perfect. There's only

742
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,239
trade offs. And that's what you're gonna have to do.

743
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,760
You're gonna have to figure out You're gonna have to

744
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,159
figure out tradeoffs. You're going to have to figure out

745
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:10,519
what you're willing to, what you're willing to put up with.

746
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:12,519
I mean, even you even have trade offs. If you

747
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:14,719
want to look at like a hoppy and covenant community,

748
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,320
you're going to give up some kind of liberty that

749
00:42:19,039 --> 00:42:23,159
should be afforded to everyone according to you know, libertarians,

750
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,320
so that you're can have the safety of community of

751
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,400
like minded people and you're not all one going to

752
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,079
be one hundred percent like minded. But getting back to

753
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:35,840
my biggest criticism of open borders is you're importing people

754
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,119
who not only is you know, and I'll tell people this,

755
00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:41,440
and I'll give you the I'll give you the rebuttal,

756
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,039
you're importing people that you're going to have to turn

757
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:47,440
into libertarians that you're going now you're going to have

758
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,559
to turn them into libertarians. They're not they're not inclined

759
00:42:50,559 --> 00:42:53,559
to libertarians and where they come from, they maybe escape

760
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:56,719
if they're escaping someplace violent. All they're looking for is

761
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,599
state protection. They're not looking to hear about private police. Okay.

762
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,800
So and then somebody, some not even a Midwich this

763
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,840
has to be someone with an eighty five IQ, God

764
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,519
bless them, will say, well, you know there's people here

765
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,840
that you know most of the people here aren't interested

766
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,400
in libertarianism. I'm like, don't make my argument for me.

767
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,079
It's like, exactly, why would you want more if you're

768
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:27,039
saying it's okay for more to come, because there's people

769
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:29,880
here who will never accept it or who you're gonna

770
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,239
have to You're you're the one who's black pilled because

771
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,280
you're telling me that you don't ever believe this is

772
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,119
going to happen. It's never going to happen for you.

773
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,880
All it is is an identity. It's a religion for you. You

774
00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:44,559
have no religion, You have no identity. Maybe you have

775
00:43:44,639 --> 00:43:48,199
no family, no one you love, and it's the people

776
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,719
in your group chat who you all believe in the

777
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,559
same thing. And the reason you believe that, the reason

778
00:43:54,679 --> 00:43:56,960
you won't step outside of your box that you've built

779
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,639
for yourself, is because you're scared that you'll be kicked

780
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:03,599
out of the group chat. Look, I've been kicked out

781
00:44:03,639 --> 00:44:07,320
of a lot of group chats. It's liberating because those

782
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,360
group chats become echo chambers after a while. And why

783
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,920
would you want to just continually talk to people who

784
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,800
were just going to confirm your biases. You want to

785
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,039
be challenged. You know. The first time someone told me

786
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,159
you got to read The Machiavellians by James Burnham, I'm like,

787
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,000
I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't

788
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,079
want to change my mind. Then you read it and

789
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:30,079
you're like, oh, this is how power has worked since

790
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:35,480
the dawn of time. And it's not how and hop

791
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:37,760
Up probably has a better idea of how it works

792
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,239
than any other libertarian. But it's always going to be

793
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,400
this small group of people who were in charge because

794
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,000
three people can three people can organize better than three

795
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,360
hundred and fifty million, you know. So then you start

796
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,840
looking at that and you're like, oh, so it's always

797
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,679
this like elite group. They may not be elite morally,

798
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:01,119
they may not be elite metaphysically, but they're the ones

799
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:03,480
that are in charge. They're the ones who've taken over.

800
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,199
Now they may be shitty like the ones we have

801
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,400
now and we have to get rid of. But that's

802
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,960
why you have to raise up other elites. And actually,

803
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,840
you know, when it comes to like Silicon Valley, people

804
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,639
like Marc Andreessen and other people like that, it looks

805
00:45:17,639 --> 00:45:19,800
like there are there are another group of elites that

806
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,239
are on the charge, and they are not one hundred

807
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,400
percent in my camp, but they're a hell of a

808
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:29,639
lot better than these friggin dick chopping tit chopping monsters

809
00:45:29,679 --> 00:45:31,000
that are in charge right now.

810
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I kind of noticed it seems like they're

811
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,119
a lot more indifferent rather than actively hostile, which I mean,

812
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,119
you got to walk before you get taken.

813
00:45:41,679 --> 00:45:42,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

814
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:45,039
Speaker 2: And one thing that I wanted to head on before

815
00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:48,880
we kind of move on to they is, uh, you've

816
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,039
made the point before. Just give those Haitians economics and

817
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:55,199
one lesson, they'll become libertarians. But what does libertarianism require?

818
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,880
It requires a lot of abstract thought when.

819
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,519
Speaker 3: You're dealing with people who literally have an.

820
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: IQ of sixty five to eighty five.

821
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:06,639
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, they.

822
00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:10,159
Speaker 1: Can't entertain hypo they can't entertain hypotheticals. That's the thing

823
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:11,960
is when you're when your IQ's that low, you can't

824
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:17,199
entertain hypotheticals, and that's all like libertarianism is, it's hypothetically

825
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,400
if this thing was. But they can't do that. So

826
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:24,639
what you're going to end up what you realize when

827
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:27,480
you really start studying people. And I'm not saying people

828
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,679
can't their IQs can't be raised. I mean, you know

829
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,159
there it's not always that England had the average IQ

830
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,840
that had now was much lower, well over time, but

831
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,760
under the right circumstances. But Hades has some bad circumstances

832
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,199
for two hundred and twenty twenty five years of their

833
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:50,280
own doing. Mind you, but you you're not going to

834
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,440
be able. What you what you realize is is that

835
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,960
if you want order, if you want the if you

836
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,760
want the world to be the way you wanted to,

837
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,920
whether that be libertarian, with it, whatever it is, you're

838
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,880
basically going to end up having to tell people what

839
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,360
to believe and how to act. And that goes against

840
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,679
the fundamental you know, one of the fundamental keys of

841
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,960
libertarian which is a non aggression principle. As a non

842
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,159
aggression principle is it would be a sin to tell

843
00:47:20,159 --> 00:47:22,199
people that they need to believe in this. I remember

844
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:24,880
I was interviewing a very popular libertarian. I'm not going

845
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,440
to say his name because this could potentially make him

846
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,239
I'm not insult I don't want to insult somebody, but

847
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,119
I mean, this is a long time ago. I said, well,

848
00:47:36,119 --> 00:47:38,519
we can't force people to be libertarians. We can't have

849
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:42,199
a libertarian dictatorship. That would be you know, that would

850
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:48,400
be a contradiction. Well, people are if twenty twenty taught

851
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,079
us anything, the majority of people are being told or

852
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:53,880
waiting to be told, what to do and what to believe.

853
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,760
You got to get your people in If you gotta

854
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,480
get your people in charge and start telling people what

855
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:04,639
to believe and what to do. And if that is

856
00:48:04,679 --> 00:48:08,199
to don't hurt people and don't take their stuff, well

857
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,320
you're going to have to You're gonna have to tell

858
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,280
people that. And you're gonna have to tell people that's

859
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,000
the way we do it from now on. And if

860
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:17,639
you don't do it that way, there will be consequences.

861
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,559
Isn't it funny how like they'll they'll mention, like you'll

862
00:48:22,599 --> 00:48:26,039
hear about the most libertarian places on the planet, like Singapore.

863
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,000
You can walk in and start a business in a day.

864
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:31,559
You can start you can open a bank account in

865
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:35,320
the airport on a stopover. That's how liberal it is there.

866
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,960
When it comes to banking regulations, economic regulations. You spit,

867
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:45,159
you spit gum on the sidewalk, you get kinged. Well,

868
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:49,360
there's a reason why Singapore can have a multicultural society,

869
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,960
and it's a multicultural Asian society. And for people who

870
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,079
don't know it, Asian groups do not like each other.

871
00:48:56,039 --> 00:48:59,639
There is a lot of tension between different Asian and

872
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:05,280
they get along because the state will fuck you up

873
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,800
if you step out of line, and it's still someplace

874
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,039
that you don't live return. Its all about Lichtenstein is

875
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:18,199
the same way. Lichtenstein is probably considering what Prince alois

876
00:49:18,199 --> 00:49:21,440
and his dad Hans, you know what they believe. They're

877
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,480
friends with Hans Herman Happa. They they understand Austrian theory.

878
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:30,440
They understand you still pay the price if you step

879
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,639
out of line there and you have to and the

880
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:35,159
state's going to do it. It's not going to be

881
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:39,960
some private police force. And see, that's the thing is,

882
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,599
you can't ever have a private police force because if

883
00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:47,079
private property is like your ultimate goal, it's like, don't

884
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:49,920
hurt people, don't take their stuff, and you have somebody

885
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,320
who has piece of land and they're hurting somebody on

886
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,679
that land, Well, somebody has to be able to make

887
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,920
the decision that an accept is going to be made

888
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,559
and we're going to go in there and we're going

889
00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:05,159
to stop. Right, We're going to be a person who's

890
00:50:05,199 --> 00:50:05,599
doing it.

891
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,119
Speaker 2: If you left that the non aggression principle, then if

892
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:10,440
that's your first principle.

893
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: That would tell you that's wrong to do that.

894
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,079
Speaker 2: I did a podcast a couple of weeks ago called

895
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:16,119
while I'm not an anarchist anymore, and honestly, I do

896
00:50:16,199 --> 00:50:18,400
think state, you know, it is justified for a state

897
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,119
to use bolence to stop somebody from committing an abortion.

898
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,280
I mean, we just have a culture now that doesn't

899
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,000
really believe in that. But like, you know, I think

900
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,320
that's perfectly reasonable to say no, you can't kill that child.

901
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,639
Or in situations like you know, Drag Queen Story Hour,

902
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,920
or where kids are being exposed to things that they

903
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,000
shouldn't be, why wouldn't we shut those things down? I mean,

904
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,719
those are the most vulnerable group of people amongst us.

905
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,320
Do we not want to protect our future?

906
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: Well, I mean what those things do is when you

907
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,199
have people who can kill kill their unborn children, people

908
00:50:52,199 --> 00:50:55,599
who can you know, men can dress up as women

909
00:50:55,639 --> 00:50:58,119
and shake their dicks in front of it. And that's

910
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:00,039
what ends up happening at these drag queen story a

911
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:02,360
lot of these drag q story hours, not all of them,

912
00:51:02,599 --> 00:51:05,960
but still it shouldn't be done. It shouldn't be done.

913
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,079
This is it goes against nature. Anyone who argues that

914
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:12,840
that's not against oh, well you know it's like, you know,

915
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,320
well there's you can go back and the Talmud has

916
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,199
sixty h Oh you want to bring that up. Huh,

917
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,360
all right, well you don't have to talk about that

918
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:27,000
if you want. You can't have people doing this. It

919
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:31,519
causes chaos. It causes people who instinctively know that there's

920
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:37,880
only that there's a binary male and female. It causes

921
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:46,440
chaos and the state, and especially the managerial state. Like

922
00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:49,760
you know, I'm sure Hapa, if anyone is ready to democracy.

923
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,400
The God that fails knows that a king doesn't want

924
00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:56,039
chaos in his kingdom. It's beneficial for him for business,

925
00:51:56,079 --> 00:52:01,159
for everything to have order. Chaos when you have a

926
00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:03,639
managerial state, when there's really no one in charge and

927
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,320
it's just this machine that's keeping ongoing no matter who

928
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:11,440
gets elected. They thrive off chaos because they're always it's

929
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,599
going to cause problems and they're gonna somebody's gonna call

930
00:52:14,639 --> 00:52:17,840
them to step in. They create, they're basically creating their

931
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,239
own It's like a drug dealer giving away the first

932
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:27,440
hit for free. You're creating your own problems. And you know, saying, well,

933
00:52:27,519 --> 00:52:35,119
just end the state, bro Well, okay, great philosophically, sure,

934
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,559
but how about we talk about reality and how to

935
00:52:37,559 --> 00:52:40,320
deal with it in reality? Right now? Well, dealing with

936
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:46,519
it in reality would be mean you've you're the state's

937
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:49,519
best friend. That's what I've said about so many libertarians

938
00:52:49,519 --> 00:52:51,519
when you hear them talk and they talk about how

939
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,840
we need to be able to free to do this,

940
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,719
and the border needs to be open and everything, you're

941
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,599
just growing the state. I can show you. You know,

942
00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:04,400
whatever you're advocating for, most of the time, what you're

943
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,000
advocating for is just growing the state, is making the

944
00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:10,639
state bigger. I mean, it's like, oh, well, you know,

945
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,400
we could have endless immigration if we just get rid

946
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,559
of if we just get rid of handouts, and okay,

947
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:23,559
get rid of the handouts. It's like Okay, you can't.

948
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,840
You can't even get rid of the handouts, and you're

949
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,239
talking you can't get rid of the entitlements, and you're

950
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:32,400
talking about getting rid of the state. It took a

951
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,760
war to get rid of slavery, what do you think

952
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,360
it's going to take to get rid of the state.

953
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:43,760
Not only that, if the state did collapse tomorrow, the

954
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,840
overwhelming majority of people are going to be asking for

955
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,920
another state. If you don't have something built up already,

956
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,480
if you don't have it, if you don't have control

957
00:53:54,559 --> 00:54:00,239
of their minds already, when it collapses, they're just going

958
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,559
to go to what they know. And if they don't

959
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:06,360
know what you know, if they're not desiring what you desire,

960
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,880
they're just gonna go back to what you're left out

961
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,480
in the cold. I mean, the state is not going

962
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:13,079
to collapse tomorrow, and everybody's gonna be like, we should

963
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:15,079
give that an arctic capitalism thing and try. They're gonna

964
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:18,480
be like, no, feed me, I need to be fed.

965
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,840
Whoever you know, who rules, whoever can feed people? That's

966
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,320
who rules whoever can feed people or say that they

967
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,039
can feed people, or give the illusion that they can

968
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:35,000
feed people. If you're telling people. Well, you know, everybody

969
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:36,639
just wants to be free. You know, deep down inside,

970
00:54:36,639 --> 00:54:43,280
everyone's a libertarian. I mean maybe until a virus comes

971
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:48,119
along and then everyone's hiding in their house and they're

972
00:54:48,159 --> 00:54:51,360
listening to their government and they're they're following to they're

973
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:56,320
watching TV to find out if they can go to church. Okay,

974
00:54:57,519 --> 00:55:01,880
So so you can solve that problem. You're a little libertarian.

975
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,119
I mean, let me tell you something. If I got

976
00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:07,960
the kind of world I wanted, it would look way

977
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,039
more libertarian than this right now. It would be a

978
00:55:12,079 --> 00:55:17,880
lot more libertarian because it would be very narrow and

979
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,440
you're going to need narrowness. If you're going to have

980
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,280
that kind of liberty, you're going to need people who

981
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:30,880
can self rule. Most people can't solve rule, which is

982
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,239
why I think Kappa, you know, came down to the

983
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:37,000
ten thousand liften surnimes thing. Where local if you want

984
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:41,119
to have your liberty. I've been to towns. My town is,

985
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,239
the town I live in is twenty four hundred people

986
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:49,239
to the middle Alabama. We have probably a thousand chickens

987
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,840
to every person in this county. Without a thousand chickens

988
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,400
for every one person in this county, probably one hundred

989
00:55:56,519 --> 00:56:03,119
head of cattle for every that's work hard. They when

990
00:56:03,159 --> 00:56:05,400
people get together around here, politics is not the first

991
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,159
thing they talk about, right. They talk about you know, well,

992
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,079
they're coming to take the chickens today, so we have

993
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:14,400
to you know, we'll be shut down. The chicken house

994
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,800
will be shut down for a couple of months, and

995
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,800
then we'll get a new influx in and everything. Are

996
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,760
you doing meat birds this year? You're doing eggs? How

997
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,519
are the cattle doing? When are they gone? That's the

998
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:27,920
first thing. And then they'll probably at some point talk

999
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,840
about national politics or something like that. We're completely a

1000
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,159
political around here. I mean, it's just when it comes

1001
00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:38,199
to we don't even know. We don't even know who

1002
00:56:38,199 --> 00:56:40,000
the most of us don't even really know who the mayor.

1003
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:41,599
I know who the mayor is. I know who the

1004
00:56:41,639 --> 00:56:44,039
sheriff is. I know that's just because that's who I am.

1005
00:56:44,519 --> 00:56:46,920
I want to know who these people are. Most people

1006
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,960
don't care because you don't have to. No one's going

1007
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,800
to step out a line around here. Everyone knows where

1008
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,159
everyone lives. It's so funny. When I moved here and

1009
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,639
I've been here, We've been here about a year and

1010
00:56:56,679 --> 00:57:01,519
a half. You know, I I told I was eating

1011
00:57:01,519 --> 00:57:03,559
at a restaurant in town and they're like, oh, where

1012
00:57:03,559 --> 00:57:05,199
are you moving? And I told them it was Oh,

1013
00:57:05,199 --> 00:57:07,880
I know that house. Yeah, that's the house is right

1014
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:11,960
right here, and they know the address. Everyone knows everyone.

1015
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,760
That's a way that you can have a culture where

1016
00:57:16,679 --> 00:57:21,000
it's very libertarian around here. I've been to towns in Ohio,

1017
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,119
in southern Ohio where it was very very libertarian, where

1018
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:28,800
it's like people didn't lock doors, they didn't no one sped.

1019
00:57:29,159 --> 00:57:33,199
You know, it was just basically, you know, you had

1020
00:57:33,239 --> 00:57:37,960
to deal with life. Oh, that's what happens when you

1021
00:57:38,039 --> 00:57:43,000
break things down into small homogeneous groups. And when you

1022
00:57:43,039 --> 00:57:51,360
have you don't have different even ethnic groups vying for yeh,

1023
00:57:52,199 --> 00:57:58,320
vying for supremacy over another in politics and whatever. You know,

1024
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:03,239
It's it's funny to me when they when like Liberturians

1025
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:08,760
and be like take Sweden, Yep, Sweden was completely free,

1026
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,760
one of the most free market countries ever up until

1027
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,440
a certain point when they decided that they they were

1028
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,440
going to start giving away and they were going to

1029
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,679
become basically a welfare state and they would have a

1030
00:58:18,679 --> 00:58:21,719
big welfare state and everything like that, But up until

1031
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,920
that point it was great. I'm like, what else about?

1032
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,440
Tell me about Sweden's demographics up until that point was

1033
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:34,360
everyone Swedish? Why is Why does Iceland have like one

1034
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,119
murder a year and it's like usually a tourist who

1035
00:58:38,159 --> 00:58:41,360
does it? Why did Iceland? Why did a cop in

1036
00:58:41,519 --> 00:58:46,480
Iceland somebody went crazy, pulled out a shot done, cop

1037
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:49,119
showed up, had to kill him. Why did the cop

1038
00:58:49,199 --> 00:58:52,400
apologize profuser to the family, go to the funeral and

1039
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,199
then retire? Why was he about that? Because it's an

1040
00:58:57,199 --> 00:59:00,119
island of three hundred thousand people who they haven't a

1041
00:59:00,239 --> 00:59:02,800
dating app where you put your name in there and

1042
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,079
they figure out how related you are to each other.

1043
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,599
These are people who don't kill each other. They don't

1044
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,880
they're not looking to cheat. Sure, you're going to get

1045
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,639
some cheating done. That's just family. I mean, it's just yea.

1046
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:20,119
But it's not like freaking Camden, New Jersey. It's not

1047
00:59:20,199 --> 00:59:23,199
like Cleveland, Ohio. It's not like you know, South Side

1048
00:59:23,199 --> 00:59:25,199
of Chicago. It's not like you know, Hunt's Point in

1049
00:59:25,199 --> 00:59:29,480
the Bronx. Well. Why because it's a bunch of people

1050
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,599
who not act and they're all related to each other.

1051
00:59:33,639 --> 00:59:35,800
And not all people are the same, because you can

1052
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,840
go into some neighborhoods in this country that are all

1053
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:45,920
one demographic and they're killing each other. So that comes

1054
00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:49,079
in that place into it too. But that's mean to

1055
00:59:49,199 --> 00:59:54,039
talk about or it's socioeconomic factors, which is the the

1056
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:56,760
main go to for most libertarians, because you know, that's

1057
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,840
what I have, and I want to shit on libertarians.

1058
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,519
I mean, I like the looking at what what Angel

1059
01:00:01,639 --> 01:00:03,519
is doing with the LP and talking to Trump and

1060
01:00:03,519 --> 01:00:06,639
having dinner with Trump, and hey, it's fucking amazing. You know,

1061
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,679
you have to be able to talk to power, and

1062
01:00:08,719 --> 01:00:12,119
you have to be able to willing to bend and

1063
01:00:12,159 --> 01:00:17,440
willing to go. What are the most important values I have?

1064
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,159
I mean, are all these political values I have that

1065
01:00:21,239 --> 01:00:24,079
people are like? And that's one thing. That's another thing

1066
01:00:24,119 --> 01:00:27,679
that a lot of people choose libertarianism for because they

1067
01:00:27,679 --> 01:00:32,719
have no religion, and then they basically libertarianism gives them

1068
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,599
some sense of like they can like, quote morality, Now, oh,

1069
01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:39,559
you're immoral because you want to take stuff from people. Okay,

1070
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,360
you're thou shalt not steal? What's that based upon?

1071
01:00:45,519 --> 01:00:45,599
Speaker 3: What?

1072
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,559
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, you know, I just say it. Okay, bang,

1073
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:55,920
I'm taking everything now. Oh well it's based upon you know,

1074
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,519
the God of the Bible, and he said that shalt

1075
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:02,079
not steal. So I don't think we should steal. Okay,

1076
01:01:02,119 --> 01:01:05,400
Well tell me more. If you're just gonna, I mean,

1077
01:01:06,119 --> 01:01:08,719
if you're just gonna be like, well, you know it's

1078
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:16,880
wrong to hurt people and take their stuff. Well why why? Well,

1079
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,320
because people know why. You're gonna have to give me something.

1080
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:25,119
You have to give me something outside of reason. Mm hmm,

1081
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,320
you know. I mean, then you just become an objectivist

1082
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,880
and you're a nine randite and you're just you know,

1083
01:01:31,039 --> 01:01:34,800
screaming about or screaming about one world government and the

1084
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,199
police are running around and forcing reason, which is what

1085
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,559
those lunatics talk about.

1086
01:01:41,239 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're always rabbit sign. It's just it always

1087
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,639
cracks me up, how that, every single time, every single time.

1088
01:01:50,639 --> 01:01:51,119
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1089
01:01:51,199 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: So one thing I wanted to hit on with you

1090
01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:56,320
as well was when people say they so right, now,

1091
01:01:57,199 --> 01:01:59,599
we've kind of danced around elite theory here, but I

1092
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:02,280
think to your point, twenty twenty really showed you that

1093
01:02:02,719 --> 01:02:06,159
people are looking for elites, right and much to another

1094
01:02:06,159 --> 01:02:07,599
point that you were making is that basically if the

1095
01:02:07,639 --> 01:02:10,280
state were to collapse tomorrow, people are going to, you know,

1096
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,920
basically look to elites to see what we're going to

1097
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,519
do next. I've heard you and a lot of other

1098
01:02:17,599 --> 01:02:21,519
people kind of you know, in the distant rights space,

1099
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:24,079
if you will, the loose hodgepodge of people who are

1100
01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:26,119
in there, talk about the paypalm mafia.

1101
01:02:26,239 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 3: And there's people that.

1102
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,679
Speaker 2: I like and people that I'm skeptical of, and people

1103
01:02:29,679 --> 01:02:31,039
that I'm less skeptical of.

1104
01:02:31,679 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: But when it comes to.

1105
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: The when it comes to the whole Trump situation, and

1106
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,440
I think you and I probably agree on this, but

1107
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,360
I do want to get your expanded thoughts on this.

1108
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,039
You know, we hear a lot about the city in London,

1109
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:49,400
right there's obviously the Israeli lobby, and then we have

1110
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,639
the paypalm mafia. To me, when I look at all

1111
01:02:52,679 --> 01:02:55,119
this stuff, the guys who like the pay palm mafia

1112
01:02:55,199 --> 01:02:57,079
always go all in on, oh, well, these guys are

1113
01:02:57,079 --> 01:02:58,960
gonna be s hereing the next Trump administration, because look,

1114
01:02:59,039 --> 01:03:01,440
jad Vance is in there, and I think JB. Vance

1115
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:05,920
is actually legitimately impressive. But then you know, obviously there's

1116
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,400
a lot of people who just go straight to, oh,

1117
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,400
the Jews control everything, right, and they're one hundred percent

1118
01:03:10,559 --> 01:03:13,519
on that. I don't say, I lean, I don't. I'm

1119
01:03:13,519 --> 01:03:15,119
not one hundred percent in that camp, but I lean

1120
01:03:15,159 --> 01:03:17,679
towards that because we have a president of Trump being

1121
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,280
very pro Israel, and then Miriam Adelson kind of following

1122
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,800
him around and donating assholes of monitors campaign. Not that

1123
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,039
nobody else is donating, but she seems to be a

1124
01:03:25,079 --> 01:03:27,360
constant figure. And once again we have record of this.

1125
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,000
And then the city of London, that's the one I'm

1126
01:03:30,039 --> 01:03:32,440
most ignorant on. But once again we hear that the

1127
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,199
you know of the city in London is a lot

1128
01:03:34,199 --> 01:03:36,880
of what drives like a lot of global monetary policy.

1129
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,239
So what are your thoughts amongst that? And not just

1130
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,199
like the Trump camp, but overall, like who's pulling the

1131
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,119
strings when people say they.

1132
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,679
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a fight. Yeah. I think

1133
01:03:49,719 --> 01:03:51,559
he's taken money from a lot of people. I think

1134
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:54,000
he's taken money from Silicon Valley types. I think he's

1135
01:03:54,039 --> 01:04:00,840
taken money from Adolson, from Acman. The thing is is

1136
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:07,800
that it's hard to tell, you know, it's I'm I'm

1137
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,400
one of those people who thinks that things can only

1138
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,280
get better if the regime in charge is out out

1139
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:16,400
of power. Sure, but that doesn't mean that Joe Biden

1140
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,039
and you know, Kamala Harris are out of the White House.

1141
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:27,199
That means that, like the the executive branch government has

1142
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:32,639
two point eight million employees. I don't care what it

1143
01:04:32,679 --> 01:04:35,280
does to the economy, about two point six million of

1144
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,840
them need to go. I need to get it down

1145
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:41,559
to about two hundred thousand. If the military isn't it

1146
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,800
is included in there, then it would be like it'd

1147
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,679
be like I would say, fifty thousand plus the military

1148
01:04:48,039 --> 01:04:49,760
plus the military, and you've got to get rid of

1149
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,039
a lot of those military people because I mean, they

1150
01:04:53,159 --> 01:04:55,960
try to trans the whole fucking military. And it was

1151
01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:01,440
like somebody asked me, I think it was Tim Kelly said, so,

1152
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,599
Trump said that he liked he wished he had generals

1153
01:05:06,679 --> 01:05:09,239
like Adolf Hitler did. And I said, oh, you mean

1154
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,960
he wished he didn't have trend. He wished he had

1155
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:17,320
generals that weren't trands or generals, generals like Millie who

1156
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:18,679
talks about his white privilege.

1157
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:19,519
Speaker 3: MM.

1158
01:05:20,679 --> 01:05:26,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. So and then Tim asked me another question that was, uh,

1159
01:05:26,639 --> 01:05:29,119
which is a good question. It's it's a good question,

1160
01:05:29,239 --> 01:05:32,840
and it's why I'm you know, I want to see

1161
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,960
Trump as president just because there's possibilities that can happen.

1162
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,800
I don't think anything is certain. Tim asked me the question.

1163
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:45,760
He said, can you do elections matter when you have

1164
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:55,199
an occupied government? Yeah? So yeah, I'm hoping that it's

1165
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:59,960
more the Elon Musk crowd, you know, the the Mark

1166
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:06,440
Andreas and crowd that is going to be influencing. I

1167
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:11,400
still don't think Trump likes war. JD. Vans clearly said,

1168
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,599
I think it was on the Tim Dillon Show. But

1169
01:06:13,719 --> 01:06:15,800
he doesn't want to see He doesn't want war, you know,

1170
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:16,920
he doesn't want to see war.

1171
01:06:17,239 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 2: He said, our interest our interests are, our interests are

1172
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,599
not in war with Iran. And I share that into

1173
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,079
because it's right. It was very important for someone like

1174
01:06:27,159 --> 01:06:28,679
him in his position to say that.

1175
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,679
Speaker 1: Right. So I don't think that Trump likes war. I

1176
01:06:33,679 --> 01:06:36,039
don't think that, you know, he everybody's like, well, Marion

1177
01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:39,800
Madelson has given him all this money. So her husband

1178
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,800
gave him all the money in twenty sixteen, and he

1179
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,639
didn't go to war for Israel. So he bombed Syria.

1180
01:06:45,719 --> 01:06:48,400
But it was one of those one of those we

1181
01:06:48,519 --> 01:06:50,480
need to save face kind of bombings where he just

1182
01:06:50,519 --> 01:06:55,760
bomb like empty empty runways and stuff like that. And

1183
01:06:55,840 --> 01:07:00,679
then after they killed Solimani, which is probably his biggest

1184
01:07:01,079 --> 01:07:03,480
his biggest two to me, his two biggest mistakes in

1185
01:07:03,519 --> 01:07:07,360
the first had to do with Iran was killing Solomony,

1186
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,760
which I think he did at the behest of somebody

1187
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,119
inside the Iranian government who was just basically jealous for

1188
01:07:13,199 --> 01:07:18,360
one of Solomoni out of the way and and getting

1189
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,199
out of the JCPO way the Iran deal. Right, But

1190
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:28,400
I still think that he doesn't like war because he's

1191
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:34,440
a businessman and business no matter what. Yeah, there is

1192
01:07:34,519 --> 01:07:37,199
a small group of business people in this country that

1193
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:42,800
love war. Most people don't like war. Bankers. People think bankers,

1194
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:46,400
why would a banker like war? They're probably lending money

1195
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,559
to both, to people on both sides of the war,

1196
01:07:48,639 --> 01:07:51,960
which means that they're not gonna get paid back from

1197
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:56,360
one of them. Yeah, you know, that doesn't make any sense.

1198
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,199
You're not gonna make enough money. You're not gonna make

1199
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,679
enough profit off of lending to one and if you know,

1200
01:08:00,719 --> 01:08:02,400
you're not going to get paid from the other one.

1201
01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:05,679
So that doesn't make any sense to me. You know,

1202
01:08:05,679 --> 01:08:08,639
people are always like, oh, well, both sides of World

1203
01:08:08,639 --> 01:08:11,719
War two were financed by this one person and everything

1204
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:15,559
like that. It's like someone didn't get paid or they

1205
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:17,600
or if they did get paid, I mean it was

1206
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,640
way down the line, and you know, bankers want one

1207
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:26,159
instant gratification. For the most part, I just don't see

1208
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:29,600
I don't see Trump wanting to get us into wars

1209
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,600
unless we absolutely have to. It's just I'm looking at

1210
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:40,399
his history and as far as like the people who

1211
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:46,680
are influencing them now, I'm hoping and it looks more

1212
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,439
than anything, at least from the outside, that Elon Musk

1213
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,119
is the one who's probably influencing of the most. And

1214
01:08:54,159 --> 01:08:56,640
if Elon Musk is influencing of the most, he wants

1215
01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:04,199
to create that Department of Government Efficiency and start to

1216
01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:08,600
start cutting cost cutting costs and kind of it's going

1217
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:13,479
to reduce the size of government. Mm hm. My ultimate

1218
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,920
goal is that somebody like Vivek, who has clearly said

1219
01:09:18,079 --> 01:09:22,319
on like Sean Ryan's podcast, that you know, the administrative

1220
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:25,319
state has to be dismantled, hoping he's going to have

1221
01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:27,640
some kind of say in it. All you can do

1222
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,319
is hope, because you just don't know. You don't know

1223
01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:34,199
what's gonna happen. I mean, they're gonna probably try and

1224
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,359
just keep killing trying, keep trying to kill him. I mean,

1225
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:43,000
I don't even know. I'm I'm of the opinion and

1226
01:09:43,039 --> 01:09:46,560
I'm not making predictions, but I honestly think that like

1227
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,760
next Tuesday, by midnight, we're going to know he won.

1228
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,319
I don't think anybody. I think you're you have this

1229
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:56,600
very small segment of the population that's completely anti Trump.

1230
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,840
They'll vote for any They'll vote for anyone who is

1231
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:03,880
in Donald Trump. I think, for the most part, I

1232
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,399
think people are going to vote for him. And I

1233
01:10:06,399 --> 01:10:09,079
don't even know. I don't think cheating is gonna work.

1234
01:10:09,119 --> 01:10:11,720
I don't think cheating will happen in Pennsylvania because Josh

1235
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,479
Shapiro wants to run for president in four years and

1236
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:18,039
right Tamala then she's gonna be he won't be able

1237
01:10:18,079 --> 01:10:20,239
to run in twenty twenty eight. Same thing with the

1238
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:23,960
witch Gretchen Whitmer up up in Michigan. I think cheating

1239
01:10:24,079 --> 01:10:26,600
is gonna happen in Arizona, and Arizona will go blue.

1240
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:29,760
But I think that Florida is going to be red.

1241
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,319
H something that I saw. I said that if Trump

1242
01:10:35,359 --> 01:10:39,039
wins Pennsylvania, Kamala has a four point four percent chance

1243
01:10:39,079 --> 01:10:41,720
of winning. So I think I think it's gonna be

1244
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,600
over that night. I think we're gonna be you know,

1245
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,199
we're doing I'm doing a live stream with the Old

1246
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:47,479
Glory Club. We're gonna have people in and out all night,

1247
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,520
and everything I think we're gonna be over will be

1248
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,600
over by midnight. I think it'll be called by midnight.

1249
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,520
Even with I think it's going to be so out

1250
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,920
of balance that the mail in ballots won't even matter anything. Yeah,

1251
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,800
and then no one's allowed. The Supreme Court just or

1252
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,600
the Fifth Circuit just passed that law which takes which

1253
01:11:07,039 --> 01:11:10,600
is national that no ballots after election they are going

1254
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,239
to be counted. So nothing after the close of poles

1255
01:11:14,319 --> 01:11:17,920
is going to be counted. I think I don't think

1256
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,760
that they're going to be able to cheat this time.

1257
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,039
You know, you don't rob the same bank twice in

1258
01:11:22,079 --> 01:11:27,399
a row. You wait a little bit. So I think

1259
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,479
there are I think Jeff Bezos, with some of the

1260
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,079
things he's done at the Washington Post in the last

1261
01:11:33,119 --> 01:11:35,520
couple of weeks, has already resigned himself to the fact

1262
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,640
that Trump is going to win. I think you can

1263
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,760
see a lot of people who believe that Trump is

1264
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:45,359
going to win. Kamala has gone from opportunity economy to

1265
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:50,760
everyone's a fascist but me, And I mean she's she's

1266
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,399
basically had a meltdown ever since that Brett Baer interview.

1267
01:11:54,039 --> 01:11:57,520
I mean, she's just she has looked as she acts

1268
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,479
like a monster. And there may be some people out

1269
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,840
there who want who want her to be that way

1270
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,479
and want to see are okay with that. But even Trump,

1271
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,359
when you look at Trump, I mean he's not nearly

1272
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,279
from like twenty sixteen when he had a lot he

1273
01:12:15,319 --> 01:12:18,479
seemed a lot more on edge and a lot meaner

1274
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,119
like he was. Yeah, it seems like he's having a

1275
01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:25,720
good sense. Seems like ever since Butler, he's like calmed down.

1276
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,800
It seems like he's having fun, you know, And I

1277
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,159
think that comes off and I think the more fun

1278
01:12:32,199 --> 01:12:34,159
he has, the more they call him a fascist, which

1279
01:12:34,199 --> 01:12:38,239
is just I mean, look, man, I wish he was.

1280
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,680
I really wish he was, because I said in my

1281
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:48,800
sub sect this morning, this government is so criminal. They've

1282
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,319
done so many criminal things, like this thing that just

1283
01:12:51,359 --> 01:12:55,199
came out that James Comy had like put honey pots

1284
01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:59,479
into the Trump campaign in twenty sixteen, even before the

1285
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,319
whole cross fire hurricane official things started. He had had

1286
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:08,159
off the books people in there trying to inform and

1287
01:13:08,279 --> 01:13:14,960
also insert into the campaign things. And yeah, you have

1288
01:13:15,039 --> 01:13:18,920
to take somebody like from government who's done really really

1289
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:23,199
awful shit, someone from academia and someone from like the press,

1290
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,239
and like put them on trial and try, you know,

1291
01:13:26,279 --> 01:13:29,079
people who've done people who you know, of committed crimes,

1292
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,000
have like very public trials and then put them in jail.

1293
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,079
People need to know that they that they can't do

1294
01:13:36,199 --> 01:13:39,279
this anymore. But they can't just stand there and over

1295
01:13:39,359 --> 01:13:42,800
and over again say that someone is a you know,

1296
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:46,439
accuse someone of being a Russian asset, and you know,

1297
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,359
while they're taking money from who knows whatever interest group

1298
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:58,159
to do this. And you know, there's unless he does that,

1299
01:13:58,319 --> 01:14:06,800
unless he really unless they have the whatever this team

1300
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,680
that's going to be informing him, unless they are willing

1301
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:16,760
to really punish their enemies and do things that have

1302
01:14:17,039 --> 01:14:22,039
never been done before, like getting rid of entire departments.

1303
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:26,199
I mean, Curtis Yarvin said a few years ago. I

1304
01:14:26,199 --> 01:14:28,760
mean he's been saying this for years. The State Department

1305
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,039
doesn't even need to exist. It's the pressman and three

1306
01:14:32,039 --> 01:14:35,720
of his advisors on zoom. You don't need that bill.

1307
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:40,560
You turn that building into a museum or something. And

1308
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,720
but is it going to happen? That's the question. I

1309
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,800
want it to. But I'm not Pollyanna. I don't I'm

1310
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,119
not I'm not nothing. I'm not one of the nothing

1311
01:14:53,119 --> 01:14:56,399
ever happens bros. But I'm definitely one of the ones

1312
01:14:56,399 --> 01:14:59,880
who's like, we're definitely not going to get one hundred

1313
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,840
percent of what we want, and we should be damn

1314
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,039
happy if we get thirty percent of what we want

1315
01:15:04,079 --> 01:15:11,439
because they've been designing this government the way it operates

1316
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,199
since FDR died. FDR had the power of a king.

1317
01:15:16,079 --> 01:15:18,600
He could do whatever he wanted. I mean, when you

1318
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:22,960
look at how many executive orders he wrote, it's like

1319
01:15:23,159 --> 01:15:26,479
four times more than every other president might be three.

1320
01:15:27,119 --> 01:15:29,760
He was a king. And when he died, he did

1321
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,920
not leave his power to Harry Truman. He did not

1322
01:15:33,199 --> 01:15:37,600
pass his power down. That power went down into the departments.

1323
01:15:38,199 --> 01:15:40,319
That's how we have the Some people call it the

1324
01:15:40,359 --> 01:15:44,720
deep state. I like the managerial state makes more sense

1325
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,920
to me because it's just rule by managers and all

1326
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,600
they're doing is they're managing to keep their jobs and

1327
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,640
keep this thing going so that they can do whatever

1328
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:59,159
they want. And it doesn't matter if he gets elected

1329
01:15:59,239 --> 01:16:01,880
or a Republican. You know, there's the old joke in

1330
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,680
it in Washington, d C. Goes to a Georgetown bar

1331
01:16:05,159 --> 01:16:07,720
and it's say, hey, who are you voting for? Personality? Like,

1332
01:16:09,319 --> 01:16:13,359
there was that the Cheney biopic they did a few

1333
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:18,039
years ago where I think I think what's his name,

1334
01:16:18,199 --> 01:16:20,800
Christian Bale gained like one hundred and fifty pounds to

1335
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,159
play Cheney or something like that.

1336
01:16:22,319 --> 01:16:24,199
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

1337
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 1: Remember there's a beginning of that when he meets Don

1338
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:31,840
Rumsfeld and they're talking and they're like they're like, okay,

1339
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,439
we're going to do this. Okay, what are we a

1340
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,920
Democrat or Republican? And he just looks at him and laughs.

1341
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:41,359
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter when you're when to

1342
01:16:41,399 --> 01:16:45,439
the administrative state. It doesn't to guys like that, who

1343
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:49,520
powers all that matters. I mean, look, Victorian Newland served

1344
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:55,199
in the served in the Bush White House and the

1345
01:16:55,239 --> 01:16:59,920
Biden White House. It doesn't matter. She's responsible for the

1346
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,560
she's responsible for the Ukraine War almost single handily responsible

1347
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:09,239
for the same for the for the Ukraine War. I mean, oh,

1348
01:17:09,279 --> 01:17:11,680
we're gonna get We're gonna get our We're gonna have

1349
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:15,199
a coup, We're gonna overthrow the elected president, put our

1350
01:17:15,239 --> 01:17:17,800
own puppets in there, and then we're gonna have them

1351
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:22,479
start killing Russians in the don Bass to provoke Putin

1352
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:27,119
to Putin's biggest mistake was he didn't invade earlier. You

1353
01:17:27,159 --> 01:17:31,840
should have invaded when Obama was in office. I mean,

1354
01:17:32,319 --> 01:17:36,039
that's his big his biggest mistake. Anyone who tells me

1355
01:17:36,119 --> 01:17:37,880
that if Donald Trump was in office, he would have

1356
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,960
invaded is retarded. We know that if Donald Trump would

1357
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,640
not have had the election taken from him in you know,

1358
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,159
certain counties, they fixed, certain counties all around the country

1359
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,560
that wouldn't have happened, It wouldn't happen. And he says

1360
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,520
October seventh wouldn't have happened. I tend to believe that.

1361
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,079
I tend to believe October seventh might not have happened

1362
01:17:57,079 --> 01:18:02,079
if he was if he was president. But because I

1363
01:18:02,359 --> 01:18:05,359
think about if you're think about if you're a leader,

1364
01:18:05,399 --> 01:18:08,600
So think about if you're somebody who like like ahead

1365
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,079
of Hummas or something like that. Or think about if

1366
01:18:12,119 --> 01:18:14,920
you're Biden and you or think about if you're you're

1367
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:19,960
putin and your people are being killed and you're like,

1368
01:18:22,319 --> 01:18:23,600
who's the president over there?

1369
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 2: Oh?

1370
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:29,359
Speaker 1: Guy shitting in his pants? Okay, sure let's do this.

1371
01:18:30,399 --> 01:18:35,439
Yeah why not? I just yeah, to bring this all

1372
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,560
the way back around. I don't know. I don't know

1373
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:40,119
what to expect. We you know, we could get the

1374
01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:46,319
most pro pro you know, Israel four years. I have

1375
01:18:46,359 --> 01:18:49,199
a tendency to believe. I've said about Donald Trump is

1376
01:18:50,079 --> 01:18:51,840
I don't think Donald Trump is a Zionist. I think

1377
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,239
he liked I think he loves Jewish people. He's been

1378
01:18:54,279 --> 01:18:56,319
around Jewish people his whole like life. I think he

1379
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,159
likes Jewish people. I think he wants to please people

1380
01:19:00,119 --> 01:19:05,319
actually think his and there's no reason an American president

1381
01:19:05,359 --> 01:19:08,680
should have anything to do with moving their moving the

1382
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,359
embassy from one place to another. I think he did

1383
01:19:12,399 --> 01:19:15,119
that to please his to please a couple of friends.

1384
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,880
I don't think he did that because he's a Zionist.

1385
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:21,199
And that makes a big difference. There's a big difference

1386
01:19:21,239 --> 01:19:24,479
between somebody being like, eh, you know, I like I've

1387
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,199
been I've been to Israel a few times and I

1388
01:19:26,239 --> 01:19:28,319
like it, and I like the people, and somebody being

1389
01:19:28,399 --> 01:19:30,800
a rabid Zionist who is like, yeah, I don't care

1390
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,359
if they kill everybody and Daza women and children. I

1391
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:34,920
don't care, because that's what you have to be to

1392
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,560
be a Zionist. You have to be a Jewish supremacist.

1393
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:39,960
I don't think he's a Jewish. I don't think he's

1394
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,479
a supremacist for anything. Will he get us into a

1395
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:47,960
war for Israel? I highly doubt it. Nothing's on nothing's

1396
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,880
off the table. Nothing's off the table when you know

1397
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,840
it's going to be Who his closest advisors are. His

1398
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,520
biggest problem the last time was he wasn't ready. He

1399
01:19:59,159 --> 01:20:02,680
hired people who weren't going to be loyal to him,

1400
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,760
weren't we weren't even gonna be loyal to him, but

1401
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,039
loyal to his vision of what he wanted to do.

1402
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:08,079
Speaker 2: Thing.

1403
01:20:08,119 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 1: He's doing a little better this time. So thing he's

1404
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:16,600
got you know, some outside the some elites that are

1405
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looking to supplant the current elites that are in charge.

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01:20:20,319 --> 01:20:23,159
You know, you Preto talks about a circulation of elites,

1407
01:20:23,159 --> 01:20:24,399
and every once in a while you have to have

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01:20:24,399 --> 01:20:27,479
a circulation of elites or else is everything just you know,

1409
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,439
elites just become deranged and decadent, and you get what

1410
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,279
we have what we have now?

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, maybe a good place to wrap it.

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01:20:36,119 --> 01:20:39,760
Speaker 2: Then, do you think this supporting Trump and Vance right

1413
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,640
now is a down payment on kind of like a

1414
01:20:43,119 --> 01:20:47,159
more vance Peter Thiel esque kind of future for the

1415
01:20:47,199 --> 01:20:48,079
Republican Party?

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01:20:51,319 --> 01:20:56,520
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, you know one of the you know a

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01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,760
lot of people have reasons for not liking Peter T

1418
01:21:00,119 --> 01:21:05,079
and I understand all of them. One thing that I

1419
01:21:05,079 --> 01:21:10,479
do know about Silicon Valley people is they cherish competence,

1420
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:16,439
which is why, you know, I think someone like the

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01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,199
Acre JD. Evans can look at the administrative state and

1422
01:21:19,239 --> 01:21:22,479
say it has to go because you can't have competence.

1423
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:27,319
You can't have competent governance if you have people who

1424
01:21:28,279 --> 01:21:31,119
have no skin in the game. Let's face it. You

1425
01:21:31,159 --> 01:21:33,239
know people in the administrative state, they don't have any

1426
01:21:33,279 --> 01:21:38,359
skin in the game. But I think they like competence. Yeah.

1427
01:21:38,399 --> 01:21:41,279
I've heard one person that I've really been following very

1428
01:21:41,279 --> 01:21:45,600
closely is Mark injuriesOn and watching him talk about how,

1429
01:21:46,079 --> 01:21:49,119
you know, we need a strong military if for nothing else,

1430
01:21:49,279 --> 01:21:51,800
just to be as deterrent for other people. I mean,

1431
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,840
we have a very weak military right now. You know,

1432
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:59,720
we don't have enough foot soldiers too. If are if

1433
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:03,920
you're just looking at our enlisted class of soldiers, like

1434
01:22:04,039 --> 01:22:06,359
just say the army, they would have lasted two and

1435
01:22:06,399 --> 01:22:09,920
a half months in Ukraine fighting as Ukraine did because

1436
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:14,319
there's less than thirty thousand. Leah Enfield and I did

1437
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,920
went over an Army War College paper on my show.

1438
01:22:17,359 --> 01:22:21,279
It talked about that. So the military needs to be

1439
01:22:21,319 --> 01:22:26,880
built back up because the world we live in you

1440
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,239
need a strong military. People will people will mess with

1441
01:22:30,279 --> 01:22:33,520
all of your interests. We don't need to have bases

1442
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,239
in one hundred and eighty countries or however many countries

1443
01:22:36,279 --> 01:22:39,520
we have. Hopefully somebody will look at that and go, yeah,

1444
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,880
we need to draw that back. But the reason we

1445
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:45,119
have those bases, especially the basis in Europe, is because

1446
01:22:45,119 --> 01:22:50,600
of World War Two. And you know who's occupying us,

1447
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:56,399
Who's been occupying us since World War Two. So city

1448
01:22:56,439 --> 01:23:02,319
of London, the City of London is brought childs. People

1449
01:23:02,399 --> 01:23:07,359
like that. They control international banking. They used to control

1450
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,199
a lot in this in the United States up until

1451
01:23:10,279 --> 01:23:14,319
Jerome Powell went to war with them, started going to

1452
01:23:14,359 --> 01:23:17,840
war with them a couple of years ago, and we

1453
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,000
got off of live or which is London it's your

1454
01:23:20,119 --> 01:23:25,920
bank exchange rate, and that was that allowed like London

1455
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:30,399
to if you took out a credit card in Oklahoma

1456
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:34,399
and Oklahoma bank, London was dictating what the interest rate

1457
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,560
was on that. And we got out of that. And

1458
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:45,079
now it's run through so forth in Chicago, and we've

1459
01:23:45,079 --> 01:23:47,880
seen the Euro weaken to the point where the euro

1460
01:23:48,119 --> 01:23:51,760
is the Euro's on life support right now. That's just

1461
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:57,520
because Jerome Powell, the first Gentile fed president in decades

1462
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:03,319
upon decades, and I think as the generation Virginian has

1463
01:24:03,359 --> 01:24:07,199
decided to go to war with the Rothschilds and their

1464
01:24:07,359 --> 01:24:12,319
faction over there. While you while you have one of

1465
01:24:12,359 --> 01:24:15,920
their faction as the head of the Treasury here Janet Yellen,

1466
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:20,159
which is not an easy thing to do, or you

1467
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:24,079
or you have one of the occupying people controlling treasury.

1468
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,600
So I think the City of London is is scrambling.

1469
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,000
They're trying to figure out a way. I mean they

1470
01:24:33,119 --> 01:24:36,960
I guess they get maybe called in some favors from

1471
01:24:37,239 --> 01:24:40,000
Malay and Argentina, who it turns out as one of them,

1472
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:44,680
and he sent them gold. And I think pretty much

1473
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,079
the reason consensus from some people I know who are

1474
01:24:47,079 --> 01:24:49,720
in the know say he sent them gold so that

1475
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,319
they'd have more to lend against. They can, they can

1476
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:55,760
use it as a backing to lend with because they

1477
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,479
need to be able to lend money in order to

1478
01:24:57,520 --> 01:25:00,399
make money, because that's what the roth child e'll do.

1479
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:09,039
And yeah, so them World Economic Form is yeah, I know,

1480
01:25:09,079 --> 01:25:11,840
you didn't even bring them up. World Economic Forum from

1481
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,680
everything I understand, it's often to my friends Stormy Waters

1482
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:20,439
is just basically a sort of a side show. It

1483
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,680
floats things out there to see how people react. I'm

1484
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,359
not really too worried about the World Economic Forum anymore.

1485
01:25:26,399 --> 01:25:30,319
Once you really start understanding where power and wealth comes from,

1486
01:25:30,399 --> 01:25:33,840
you realize it's not from them. They still have a lot,

1487
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,399
they still have a lot to say, and there's still

1488
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:38,600
some people there who will hold some power.

1489
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 2: But still maybe this comparison is or is an app

1490
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:44,920
But would you almost kind of say, like the World

1491
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,239
Economic Form is almost like a think tank for some

1492
01:25:47,359 --> 01:25:48,760
of the leaders.

1493
01:25:48,399 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 3: In a way.

1494
01:25:49,239 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a place, you know, it's a

1495
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:53,680
place I mean, I know people, I've talked to people

1496
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:57,039
who've spoken at the World Economic Form and they say, well,

1497
01:25:57,159 --> 01:25:59,359
it kind of have to you have if you're if

1498
01:25:59,359 --> 01:26:03,399
you're getting your name out there and you're you're in business,

1499
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,359
you're a VC or something like that. It's an easy

1500
01:26:06,359 --> 01:26:08,840
way to get your name out there and to you

1501
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:12,119
don't even have to agree with them. And apparently they're

1502
01:26:12,119 --> 01:26:13,840
pretty good about that. I mean they've had a lot

1503
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,079
of people go there and speak and like like shit

1504
01:26:16,119 --> 01:26:18,479
it on them, right to their face. You know, there's

1505
01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,039
an old Putin speech from twenty twenty one that's really

1506
01:26:21,079 --> 01:26:24,199
good where he's like he almost I mean he almost

1507
01:26:24,199 --> 01:26:28,920
sounds like an Austrian in the because he's so he's

1508
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:32,800
so like, I don't like you people at all, because

1509
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,600
he sees them as the people who would be pulling

1510
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:39,039
the strings on a or funding a Victoria new one.

1511
01:26:39,399 --> 01:26:45,600
So but the you know, there's a lot, there's so

1512
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,359
much you could talk about NATO. NATO doesn't even exist anymore.

1513
01:26:49,399 --> 01:26:51,920
I mean, NATO is just basically an excuse for Jewish

1514
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:56,319
power to do what it does. You don't see them

1515
01:26:56,319 --> 01:27:00,319
doing anything. NATO doesn't do anything that isn't benefiting a

1516
01:27:00,359 --> 01:27:05,479
small country in the Middle East. Yeah, there's a lot

1517
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:08,920
out there, and one four year presidency isn't going to

1518
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,039
fix it all. So well, I hope that you know,

1519
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:16,880
there's a wall somewhere that'll be knocked down, that'll open

1520
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,960
up some doors, you know, that'll allow us to walk

1521
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,520
past that wall wall that was up, to be able

1522
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:26,039
to get another couple things done, or be able to

1523
01:27:26,079 --> 01:27:28,960
build something for the future, if it would be a business,

1524
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,680
whether it be something parallel or something like that. Hopefully

1525
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:33,920
that's what the next four years can be. The next

1526
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,479
four years could be worse. Who knows, You don't know.

1527
01:27:38,039 --> 01:27:41,359
That's the that's the terrible thing about electoral politics, especially

1528
01:27:42,199 --> 01:27:44,600
as Tim Kelly asked, you know, Tim Kelly said, you

1529
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:47,680
know this is really even matter when you haven't occupied

1530
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:50,279
the government. So yeah, it's hard to say.

1531
01:27:51,399 --> 01:27:55,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I've tried to refrain from making too many

1532
01:27:55,119 --> 01:27:58,600
predictions because honestly, all mine from twenty twenty two to

1533
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,840
twenty twenty one have been proven absolutely wrong. I think

1534
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:02,840
I've been wrong about almost every single thing.

1535
01:28:03,119 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 3: About this election.

1536
01:28:04,199 --> 01:28:05,600
Speaker 2: So I'm like, all right, you know what, I don't

1537
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:10,600
know shit, and that's okay. I'm not ship that's Okay, I.

1538
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 1: Got to take the victory lap. I called JD. I

1539
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,439
called JD. Vance back in February. So I'm taking the

1540
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:17,079
victory lap.

1541
01:28:17,399 --> 01:28:17,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1542
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,039
Speaker 2: No, you you kind of deserve it because I was

1543
01:28:20,119 --> 01:28:22,680
rooting for Nicky Haley, not rooting, but I thought that

1544
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:23,960
was going to be it because there were a lot

1545
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,640
of people kind of in that orbit, floating that out there,

1546
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,760
and you know, even his what was it, his daughter

1547
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:30,520
in law Laura was.

1548
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,560
Speaker 1: Saying, you're roboting, You're roboting right now?

1549
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:36,399
Speaker 3: Did it break up there?

1550
01:28:36,399 --> 01:28:37,399
Speaker 1: You go? Okay?

1551
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were just some people, Oh my bad. But

1552
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,039
Laura Trump had put out she was asked on the

1553
01:28:44,079 --> 01:28:46,840
news if Nikki Haley could be vice president and she

1554
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:48,760
had said that, well, you never know with him, and

1555
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,359
there were some other people that were kind of.

1556
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:54,119
Speaker 3: Hanging at that. But you know, I think JD.

1557
01:28:54,199 --> 01:28:56,359
Speaker 2: Vance was probably the best of all options, So the

1558
01:28:56,359 --> 01:28:58,159
best of all people that he could have picked, because

1559
01:28:58,159 --> 01:29:00,560
when I heard MARKO Ruby, I'm Michael, please God no,

1560
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:02,159
But he went for J. D.

1561
01:29:02,279 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 3: Banson.

1562
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,119
Speaker 2: I think anybody that doesn't look at that and say

1563
01:29:05,199 --> 01:29:07,479
he was the best option, I don't who else were

1564
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:08,119
you expecting?

1565
01:29:10,119 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know, you know, I think they wanted

1566
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,000
the homosexual attempts. Some people wanted the homosexual attempts Scott

1567
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,960
and they're, oh, no, wait a minute, he just got married.

1568
01:29:22,119 --> 01:29:23,119
Speaker 3: I forgot all about that.

1569
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 1: You know. Some people wanted Ted Cruz not to Marco Rubio. Yeah,

1570
01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:35,600
oh so bad, so bad. You know. Some people said, yeah,

1571
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,800
I know, I think Dave. I think Dave Smith and

1572
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:43,760
Robbie Robbie Bernstein wanted Vivic Robiswani m m yeah. But

1573
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:49,079
you know, we got who we got, and we can

1574
01:29:49,199 --> 01:29:53,800
just we could be glad it's not Nicky Haley or

1575
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:57,159
Marco Rubio or somebody that you know what you're getting.

1576
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,119
I'd rather have a wild card at this point and

1577
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,960
you know exactly what to expect about the next four years.

1578
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,640
I want to be surprised or not surprised at all

1579
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,720
and just be like, oh, same old, same old, Eh,

1580
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:13,119
nothing ever changes. I'll become maybe in the next four years,

1581
01:30:13,119 --> 01:30:16,680
I'll become like the ultimate nothing ever changes. Bro. But

1582
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,560
I mean, but that's black that's black pilling. So and

1583
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:23,600
I'm not black pilled. Because you can say what you

1584
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:27,239
want about politics, but really in your personal life, as

1585
01:30:27,239 --> 01:30:29,960
long as you keep moving forward and you keep improving

1586
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:36,119
and you you know, keep moving, don't stay stagnant. The

1587
01:30:36,119 --> 01:30:39,279
white pills flow as long as you have personal white

1588
01:30:39,319 --> 01:30:42,159
white pills coming in, really, that's all that matters. You're

1589
01:30:43,119 --> 01:30:45,359
politics is always going to have a black pill for you,

1590
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,039
so you know, try to keep the white pills coming

1591
01:30:48,079 --> 01:30:51,600
in as best you can on your own to what

1592
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:52,199
you can do.

1593
01:30:53,039 --> 01:30:56,199
Speaker 2: Dude, I completely agree. Yeah, I think it's a beautiful

1594
01:30:56,199 --> 01:30:58,079
place to wrap it. Peak od plug your stuff, man.

1595
01:30:59,319 --> 01:31:04,920
Speaker 1: Peak Show, Pete substack dot com, and the Old Glory

1596
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,840
Club we will be doing check out our channel on

1597
01:31:08,159 --> 01:31:12,199
YouTube is just type in Old Glory Club and we

1598
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:17,319
will be doing the ultimate election night coverage. We've already

1599
01:31:17,359 --> 01:31:21,000
got and we had Dark Enlightenment coming in. Matt Erickson

1600
01:31:21,119 --> 01:31:23,720
is going to be there, Stormy Waters is going to

1601
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:25,439
be there. We're gonna have a host of people and

1602
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,880
then our own people. Our own people are great too,

1603
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:31,720
So yeah, it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be fun.

1604
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:35,720
But the Old Glory Club we we started two years ago,

1605
01:31:36,319 --> 01:31:40,640
we've got chapters everywhere popping up. They have to be

1606
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:46,279
official chapters. They're five o'h one c tens, which are fraternities,

1607
01:31:47,039 --> 01:31:50,600
and it's just getting people to come together. We have

1608
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:52,520
we have a great present. We still have a presence

1609
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,399
on the ground in North Carolina helping with the helping

1610
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:58,479
with the recovery there. I know that you you're you

1611
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:01,840
know are our president read Hawk, he speaks red Hawk,

1612
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:08,359
speaks very well of you. He always mentions you and yeah, yeah,

1613
01:32:08,399 --> 01:32:12,159
so Old Glory Club. That's what I'm most helpful for

1614
01:32:12,159 --> 01:32:15,800
for the future is finding young people who are of

1615
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:20,319
elite status and doing whatever we can to put them

1616
01:32:20,319 --> 01:32:22,199
in some positions where they can make a change in

1617
01:32:22,199 --> 01:32:22,560
the world.

1618
01:32:23,119 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely well.

1619
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 2: I say it all the time that the Old Glory

1620
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:28,800
Club is my favorite right wing organization. And on top

1621
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:32,399
of that, when it said there was that thing from

1622
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,960
af Post saying that the majority of like younger Republican

1623
01:32:36,039 --> 01:32:39,720
voters support an arms and bargo on Israel, I'm like,

1624
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,119
I'm giving Old Glory Club credit for this. I don't

1625
01:32:42,119 --> 01:32:44,359
care what it is. You guys get the credit for it.

1626
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:48,800
So yeah, hopefully everybody goes to check that out. I'll

1627
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:52,399
be turning thirty the day that we know, will hopefully

1628
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:57,319
know the election results. So oh congrats, man, Yeah, thank you, Yeah,

1629
01:32:57,359 --> 01:33:01,359
so you made it. Yeah three decades man, it went

1630
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:06,399
by fucking quick. I know that much, but all right, yeah,

1631
01:33:06,399 --> 01:33:09,760
thank you everybody so much for listening. Pete, thank you

1632
01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:12,760
so much for hanging out. Man sick around for a

1633
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,520
few minutes and uh we'll close.

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Speaker 3: Are out there,