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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show, Pete. I figure I would
bring you good news first, and I wanted to let
you know it has been six hundred nine or sixteen
hundred nineteen days since George Floyd got sober.
Speaker 1: Wow, has it really been that long?
Speaker 3: Yeah? May twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Wow, time is flying by way too fast. Man, It's
so funny. Somebody like somebody who's like said on Twitter
the other day, you were like an an cap yesterday,
and I'm like, I can give I can give you
a episodes from like three and a half years ago
where I'm like, yeah, I don't call myself an endcap anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think what I discovered you was early twenty twenty one,
because I started the show October of twenty twenty one,
and I've even changed my perspective on quite a few things.
But I know for you, you've been very vocal about your changes.
And I think one of the things I've had nauseum
said about you is that I respect you the most
because you've always been open about the things that you've
changed your mind on, and I think people being able
to see that, the assholes are never going to believe you,
or they're going to say you're a grifter, you're just
kind of hopping on the latest thing. But I think
it's a genuine change, and I think anybody that comes
out specifically when their financial benefit is at risk.
Speaker 3: I just have a mense respect for that.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean thanks. I lost a lot of listeners,
but and I really haven't gained them all back. But
what I found out was the listeners I have an
hour just so much more hardcore, I mean, so willing
to get involved with the show. Can you have this
person on? And it's like, home, I haven't even thought
to have that person. Can you talk about this subject?
I didn't even thoughts I have this? So it's like
it's sort of like the no agenda guys say that
like they have producers, and sometimes it feels like I
have producers where it's like I don't even have to
come up with the idea for the show. Is just
I just have to figure out who to interview. And
then a lot of times they'll be like, well, you
want to interview this guy, and here's his ad on
Twitter and everything, or I already spoke to him about
it and area thing, so that's pretty nice. And then
you know, I think that one of the things that
I've helped do and I'm seeing more people do, is
innovate readings, doing like whole readings of books over multiple
episodes and commentsing on them, and I think, not only
does it get me reading books that I haven't read
in years or there are a couple of the books
where I read live on air I hadn't read before,
but it also introduces old books that are long out
of print, very hard to find, extremely expensive. And you know,
there's a reason a lot of those books. There's a
reason why you can find, you know, nineteen eighty four
an animal farm everywhere. There's reasons why you can't find
Race War in high school for under five hundred dollars,
or you know, like ice Breaker, or buy Victor suver
Off for under you know, for under three hundred dollars.
They like this. I mean, now I go back and
read nineteen eighty four and I'm like, oh, this is quaint,
this is nice. I loved her. I loved her. Twenty
twenty guy, it's like this, this is hilarious. But yeah,
so yeah, no, it's it's it's nice to be reaching
a whole bunch of new people. But you know how
many people actually came over with me, you know who
we were there in the Libertarian and n CAP days.
And as as I progressed out of it, which took
you a good year year and a half taking the
ride all the way with me, and they're still with me,
and they're like, I remember, I go all the way
back to the man Stays and the Man's rated it,
and I'm like, yeah, I'm I'm glad you took the
ride with me. Lets me know, you know, when I
know thousands of people took the ride with me, that
lets me know I wasn't crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One thing that I've kind of laid out a little bit,
the new thing is for the OPMC guys, which I
have no personal problems with any of these people, but
I saw they're putting together dissident media and it kind
of seems like, hey, we're trying to cast this wide
net again to capture in some of this new dissident
right deal. And I know that you're kind of rubbing
elbows with a lot of people in that realm, but
I know that you've also kind of made it clear
that you like don't necessarily identify with that. And I
don't want to put words in your mouth, but like,
it seems like a lot of people who were formerly
libertarians are starting to move over into this space and
what I'm trying not to do is try to be
cynical about it, but I also want to look at
it objectively, and I don't want it to be something
that's like, you know, I left the left, where generally
people who say I left the left never really left the.
Speaker 1: Left, and that's and that's how you get the woke right. Well,
I'll tell you I saw that there's a dissidant media.
I don't even really I don't like the term dissident.
It's it doesn't really mean anything. It's it could be anything.
So if they want to call it that, I don't care.
I mean, it's nice to see the Libertarian Party in
the Libertarian Party chair like sitting down with the presumptive
presidential winner and you know, making moves. You know, for that,
I have to give Angela a lot of credit because
that's something I was saying to do three and a
half years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I won.
Speaker 1: When I was leaving the Mesa's Caucus, leaving the MUSA,
I'm like, well, you know, yeah, yeah, have to. If
you're going to get anything accomplished, you're going to have
to do it through one of the two parties. And
the left is and the Democrat Party is not going
to have anything to do with you, so you might
as well just start sidling up to the right, you know,
to the Republican Party. And you know it takes time,
because you know, Trump was out of the limelight at
that time. Then you know he's back in the limelight,
and it seems like they, you know, he's at least listening.
And there's a lot of libertarian ideas that I still, like,
I find a hard time to believe any of them
will work in a multicultural society with three hundred and
fifty million people, but at least they're at least they're trying,
you know. And one of the things that I'm happy
about is is that I know for a fact that
a lot of the people who are not in power
right now but are in Trump's orbit, they listen to
us over on our side of the right. I mean,
jd Vance follows on Twitter, like half of my mutuals,
a billionaire like Mark Andresen is retweeting talking about Reading Burnham.
He's been talking about that for a few years now,
reading James Burnham, and it's like, and I know, libertarian,
so like, you know, he was a Neocon I'm like,
there are still things, you know, there are things you
can learn from people that you don't agree with one
hundred I've read I've read Marks on my show, and
I've read Lennon on my show, and I've covered Stalin
and I'm covering, you know, the biggest left left to
Gillian in the twentieth century right now on my show.
There are things that you can learn a lot from
that you can take from people that you don't agree
one hundred percent with, but they're a status who cares.
But no, you know, it's like now we're seeing people
who we're seeing that the Libertarian Party is doing what
it should have done all along. It should it should
always have been and an appendage of the Republican Party
getting them to move towards you know how whatever you know,
and it may even be things that I don't agree
with anymore, but I can still appreciate using power and
using leverage and even if you don't have leverage, just
making friends.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like I've said, I don't want any of these
people in charge. I want my friends in charge. I
want my I want my friends to rule. I want
my friends to be in joy I want my I
want a friend to be president. I want a friend
mayor of my town. I want a friend to be sheriff.
Just go make friends with these people. There's no real
Trump seems like one of the genuinely nicest people that
i've I mean, if you really watch him, I think
he's a genuinely nice person. My friend, he likes to
he he listens to people. He's interested in people, you know.
One of the things I always catch him saying these
things that impress me. And by the way, I don't
think Trump's like the savior or anything. I wish Trump was.
I wish Trump was ten percent of what people on
the left say here.
Speaker 3: I agree that a.
Speaker 1: Fascist, you know, but watching him, like at that drive
through thing and these people come up and someone said, oh,
I want to thank you for coming out here, you
know and talking to ordinary people like us, And the
first thing out of his mouth, he doesn't even think
about it. He goes, you're not ordinary. And I'm like,
that's somebody who's listening to the words that are coming
out of somebody's mouth and repeating him back to him.
That shows empathy, That shows like you care if you're
just listening to people's words all the time to waiting
to critique them, which is basically what the libertarian, the
whole libertarian and cap world is is you're listening to
people's works so that you can tear them apart and
then give them a critique and correct them. Well, that
doesn't make friends. Yeah, you want to make friends with people.
I've some of the people who was hardest, the hardest
thing to do to change your mind was they had
to know that I cared about them first, and I do.
I genuinely do care about people who come to me,
and they come to me honestly and they're like, look,
I have a problem with something you said. Okay, let's
talk about it, talk it out and everything. And I'm
not gonna apologize for anything I said. I will try
to explain why I said it, but genuinely, if you
ask anyone who I've gotten to know, some people who
are very very successful and very very wealthy, they'll tell
you I could not do this alone. I could not
do this alone. I had to have people who liked me,
people who are willing to help, people who I had
to be friendly with in order to get where I am.
He goes and you know, somebody will say like, and
maybe at first I didn't really want to kiss up
to this person, but then I found out, Wow, I
really like this person, and now they're like, if something
happens to me that I consider to be a success,
that's the first person I called to tell. Not my family,
it's this person I called to tell. And that person
will be genuinely as genuinely happy for me as one
of my parents will be, you know, if their parents
are still alive kind of thing. So I think that
that's really important, and I think a lot of people
don't get that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's quite a bit, but yeah, I completely agree.
I like to share good news with people, and I
always love it when people feel like they can share
good news with me because that means that, like they
understand that we have something good between us, Like I
remember I messaged you, and I can't believe that this
is like a year and a half ago now, when
I was going to be an automotive instructor.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately that went the way that it did, But you know.
Speaker 2: Just stuff like that and you're like, hey man, you know,
I'm happy for you. Shit like that, you know, means
the world to me and to most other people, they
give a shit to note that, Hey, somebody's out there listening.
Somebody gives a shit, And it's not like it takes
that much time. Just let's say, hey, you know, I
hope you're doing well.
Speaker 3: Man. You know, just sending that kind of text or
a message to somebody like that. It's funny when I.
Speaker 1: Say, I look at it, Look the way I look
at it is. People reach out to me all the
time and say, this is what just happened to me.
I couldn't be happier. I just had a kid, I
just bought a house, I just got this job, I
just did this amazing thing. The fact that they're sharing
that with me is remarkable to me. I'm a stranger
to most of these people, and they want to share
this moment with me. Why would I sh The way
I look at it is if I could ever meet
that person face to face and get we're going to
be friends. We're going to be friends, We're going to
exchange numbers, and we'll probably be in contact a lot.
And I mean, that's that's important. And you know, the
problem I had with a lot of libertarianism is and
not a lot of the libertarian leaders I mean, I
couldn't have done the kind of things I did if
Tom Woods and Dave Smith and you know, Mark Clair,
all these people, Scott Horton, they were all so friendly
with me. And you know, by the way, I'm still
friendly with all of them. You know I could Tom
Woods invites me to his Christmas parties. Okay, I get,
I get. We were texting today. I text Dave Smith
all the time. Scott Horton and I were just cut.
We were We were just talking the other day, texting
back and forth about his new book and everything, and
you know, had we had a couple of laughs. Why
Because there are some things I've shared time with these people.
You know, we've shared you know, I was when when
Dave's son was born and he was sick and everything,
I was there. I wanted to be like, I'm praying
for him. You know this, Tom Tom knows he can
do any ask me for anything. Scott Scott knows they
can ask me for anything. I'm going to be there
for him. And there something that's way in that sense,
there's something that's way more important than politics because when
it comes down to it, or if we really sat
down and started comparing we're probably like twenty percent away.
Most people I think are twenty percent away in politics
unless you're extremely to the left, and I don't even
know what extremely to the right is.
Speaker 2: You go to church? Yeah anymore? Yeah, Well, there's something
you highlight right there that I really liked. It's that,
you know, I've heard you talk about the single live
streams too. When it came to like voting, I remember
you you kind of went off, and rightfully so about
people who always say, oh, you get what you vote for.
I could never stand that shit, because it's like, I
don't think people literally go to the ballot box and think, oh,
I want some third world or to come up and
punch me in the face.
Speaker 3: That is nobody's interest. Nobody wants that. And then I
think later.
Speaker 1: On, nobody wants h nobody's voting for higher taxes, No
one's voting for No you're getting these things because it's
in a managerial regime. The regime is going to do
what it does no matter who's in charge. When I'm
talking about voters, the people, the elected officials, you have
this system that works beneath the elected officials that doesn't move,
hasn't moved since nineteen thirty three, and that's what needs
to be taken apart. So it's like when I I'm
looking for a politician who recognizes that and is like, Okay, well,
here's my plan to try to take that apart. Because
until that gets taken apart, you're not getting anything you want.
You know, I'm not getting a right wing you know,
Catholic whatever, and that's not exactly what I want. And
no one's getting No one's getting their trad cath no
one's getting their libertarianism, no one's getting until that managerial
regime gets taken apart. And really, the only couple people
I've heard talk about that managerial regime in any way
and talk about needs to be dismantling are Vivic Robaswani
and Jade Evans. So do I think that if Trump
gets elected and jad events as his vice president, that
the managerial the managerial state is going to be destroyed. No,
but I'm hoping that, you know, they can start chipping
away at it. I mean, I know Elon Musk wants
to Walter Litnik, who is part of the transition team
to the head of Kenner Fitzgerald. He's talked about it too.
And he's actually going on podcasts talking about bitcoin, talking
about having a a bitcoin being an m one reserve
alongside bold and silver and oil, and trying to get
stopped so that war is not an m one reserve anymore.
And you know, he's talking about ways to make it
so that he says we need to have a military.
He goes, but there's no reason that we need to
be paying for things that are out of date, and
he actually comes up with these incredible like formulas where
you could actually pay for the military without actually paying
for the military. And it's just, I mean, these are
the kind of people that I'm I'm interested in, and
none of the people I just mentioned are far I
would consider to be far right, so I don't think
of a vague I think JD would probably be the
closest person to meet politically. And then Walter, Walter Latnik
is just a you know, he's he's an investor kind
of guy. I think, who is you know, probably in
the classical liberal camp, but probably more realizing the classical
liberalism as a trap because if if you classical liberalism
is where you somehow where you get the what the
woke right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, there were two things I want to mainly
talk to you about, and I'm glad you're kind of
hitting on this. When I first heard the term woke right,
I was so the first thing that came to my mind, Oh,
they have to be referring to the people who are
rabid Zionists that anytime you say anything that even hints
it like Jewish people as a whole, they call you
an anti Semite and say you should be silenced, because
I mean, there's tons of governors and tons of Republicans
that do shit like this all the time, but they weren't.
And that was the strangest thing to me, because I'm like, oh,
this is like woke to a te right, you know.
I mean you literally have people saying, oh, Jewish kids
feel uncomfortable in college campuses, so therefore we need speech
laws and safe spaces like that sounds pretty woke to me.
So if you're saying woke right and that's who you're identifying, okay,
I guess I agree. I don't know that I would
like use that term, but it makes sense at least.
But then constantin Kissing was the dude that coined the time.
Speaker 1: Why don't we even know that guy's name. I don't
why do we know that guy's name. I'm aggressive. He's
not intelligent at all. His father was. He was an
oligarch in Russia in the nineties. I mean one of
the most evil. I mean those people were evil. I
mean they were starving people to death. The average age
of a Russian man dropped twelve years in the nineteen
because of what those scumbags were fucking. You know, the
seven or eight oligarchs, like Kissing's dad, How they were
raping that country and raping that country and sending all
of its resources and everything to another much smaller country
in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: Hmmm, okay, So what did you think of when you
first heard this term woke right? Because I know that
you've kind of dug into a lot of historical literature recently,
so I'm kind of curious, like what your genesis of
this whole situation is like when you look at it.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so it came out of the The left
didn't leave the left. I didn't leave the left. The
left left me group. So as far as I know,
James Lindsay was the first one to come up with it. Guy,
what Scot, I'm so Glad when libertarians were having him
on his show and being like, oh my god, another
leftist who is saying base things. Why do we always
have to be trying to kiss the ass of leftists
who are saying base things. I say based things. Oh
you're on the right though, that means you're mean, but
the left is he means, well, he's just misguided. You know,
you remember that old thing the communists were They meant well,
they were just misguided. Those fascists over there, they just
wanted to kill everybody. And but it's all those people
who are who are like, I didn't leave the left,
The left left me, and so it's kissing. Then you
look at people like James Lindsay obviously Dave Rubin and
all these guys who were leftists and who railed against
the woke. The reason they started becoming friendly to the
right is because or conservatism, which I mean, I don't
even think there's a right wing in this country, because
I think conservativism is left wing essentially, it's classical role
classism is left wing. Sorry I'm not going to explain
any further, but they all came over here. And then
you have other people who did the same thing who
realized that this whole woke phenomenon and started to rail
against it, woke on the left on college campuses, things
like that, people like Tucker Carlson and candas Owans. Okay,
so everyone who's being everyone who's accusing everybody of being
woke right is in that camp. But they call Tucker
Carlson and Candae Sowans woke right why because they're the
only ones in that camp who were speaking out against Israel.
They're the only ones that are questioning Jewish power. So
and then it's this complete thing where you accuse your
enemy of accuse your enemy of what you're doing. So
they're against you know, oh, these people on campus who
want to stifle free speech. And then you have somebody
like a Jewish billionaire like Bill Ackman, who puts all
this money into getting black people mostly fired from college
campuses because they're not sufficiently shutting people down for free
speech because they're talking about Israel. It's like, oh, I
need a safe space because words are violence. Oh oh
you need a safe space, you pour you know, and
so here comes Ben Shapiro, you know, here comes Ben
Shapiro around the corner to make fun of you for
wanting a safe space. But then someone says from the
river to the sea, and you're like, oh my god,
oh my god, oh my god. They want genocide, they
want to kill it. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I
think you know. And Dave did. Dave did a stream
on this a couple of weeks ago that was really good.
Glenn Greenwald did a twelve minute video on the woke
Right that I mean just nailed it. I mean, I mean,
he nailed it perfectly. It's all these people who are
screaming woke right are the woke right, because they're the
ones who are I don't care what you call me.
If you can call me anything you want, I don't
want to. I don't want to shut it down. You
can say you I want to kill half Spanish, Polish,
Hungarian guys I think they should, and I'll be like,
come and get me. I don't. I don't. I'm not gonna.
If I had power, I wouldn't try to shut you down.
I'd be laughing at you. But these people don't have.
But the only power they have is basically get people.
Can't try to get people canceled and things like that.
So when you see woke right being thrown at. Somebody
whoever the term woke right is getting thrown at is
a critic of Israel. Whoever is saying is accusing someone
of being woke Right's pro Israel as a Zionist is
a full on ziis, which Constantine Kissing is, which Ben
Shapiro is, which Dave Reuben is, which I don't know
that James Lindsay is like a hardcore Zionist, but he
will not questioned, you know, he won't question Zionism at all.
Speaker 2: He said something, and this was kind of the I
had lots of moments of just I was always skeptical
of him, but I remember him saying something to the
degree of like, the Palestines will genocide Israel. I'm like,
and what world are you living in where that's even
remote possibility.
Speaker 1: The Israelis have killed one thousand Palestinians in the last
seven days. They've killed a thousand Palestinians in the last
seven days. There's a hospital that they that they attacked,
that the IDEF attack, and they shot the son of
the director of the hospital right in front of him.
They just executed him right in front of him. They're
bombing bowback today in Lebanon, one of the classic I mean,
like there are megalithic structures there that divine reason. And
then they're going into Lebanon and Lebanon which is a
thirty percent Christian country and just you know, destroying Bay
Root a Southern Bay route. I mean, I understand the difference.
Southern Bay routes mostly Shiah, that's where most of their
bombs are dropping. But still, I mean, these people are
just monsters. I mean, how how am I supposed to
look at they can drop? It was I think Colonel
McGregor said, eighty two ton bombs on five apartment buildings
or six apartment buildings. I mean that's insane. Okay, yet,
and we're not supposed to We're supposed to go, well,
you know there were tunnels under there, which there were,
there were hes blot tunnels under there. But wouldn't it
be really nice if you like you've made sure before
you like you weren't going to kill nineteen hundred people
in one strike who they're just trying to live their lives.
They're not hiding the people, they're not hiding hesbela there.
They're just people trying to live their lives. There was
a serial killer under your fucking under your house, and
they bombed your fucking house because they needed to get
that serial killer. You might have something to say like, hey,
why don't you come knock on the door, right, you know?
And then when Iran launches I think one hundred and
eighty missiles at Israel, and how many civilians did they kill?
Speaker 3: They killed one Palestinium.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was one Palestinian that right, So they launched
one hundred missiles I think one hundred and twenty landed.
No matter what you've heard, it was one hundred and twenty.
I mean, I've seen the footage. It's just one after another,
all military targets, all military or some kind of infrastructure
target that would that would be used for the military.
They didn't aim at civilians. So let me just take
those two. I have to choose between the people who
are dropping bombs on residential apartment buildings and those who
are letting you know the bombs are coming in the
first place, and then hitting military targets and they only
kill one person that Israel doesn't care about, and Israel
considers to be subhuman looking from the outside, without knowing
that players in that, I would, well, here are the barbarians.
Oh no, but human shields. Go fuck yourself with your
human shields. Bullshit, Where did you get that from? What?
What newspaper New York Times? Who owns it? The suls
Burger family, Where would you get that from? Come on,
come on, people, there are tribes out there that act
in their own interest. And let's remember what Thomas Massey
told us. Everyone in Congress has an apac babysitter except him.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Well, and one thing that I've always made this argument
because it's so frustrating when people say, oh, well, Israel's
the most the idea of is the most moral army
because they drop leaflets. It's like, okay, Well, if Pete,
if I were to come to your house and tell you, hey,
if you're not gone within three hours, I'm going to
come here and blow your entire room to smotherings, does
that make it okay? And I understand you people want
to separate morality and war in peace time, but you
can't fucking kill kids, and you can't bomb hospitals with
civilians in it and take out maternity wards and every
single functional.
Speaker 1: Hospital sixty percent of the victims and gods are women
and children.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: And they and here's the thing, Okay, they're not upset
about that. They don't consider them to be cat you know.
It's like, well, we were trying to get somebody who's
responsible for the death of a lot of people and
these people were in the way. We feel really bad
about it, but it had to be done. You know, God,
have mercy on our soul. No, that's not how they
it's you. You're either a cheerleader for them or you're
an anti semi you're woke, right, you're you have You're
not even allowed to be neutral. We found that out
after October seventh. After October seventh, you found out it
was not It wasn't enough to be anti anti Semitic.
You need to be like Philo Semitic. You have to
be you have to be completely on their side. And
I'm sorry. I mean, I've i have never ever, ever,
ever benefit I've never made excuses for Israel. I've World
War Two was fought because you're not allowed to have
Ethno states anymore. Germany needs to be destroyed England. England
was an Ethno state when it started nineteen forty eight.
The wind Rush ship started showing up Jamaicans, and then
it was just and they Europe had to become this
you know, sea of of mud basically to destroy them.
And then you look at you know, some of the
biggest like people talk about Catholic charities in this country
and then you like look at their board and it's like,
who are all these Catholics with whose last names end
with Steinberg and Wits. And then you look at Hebrew
Immigranade Society, which even Chris Ruffo, who's you know, basically
accusing everybody of being an anti semi now if they're
against Israel, said in an article that he wrote recently
that the Hebrew Immigrantade Society was responsible for bringing all
the Haitians into Charleroi, Pennsylvania. Well, it's Jewish, technically Jewish
Family and Children Services, which is a division of Hebrew
Immigranate Society highest which our National Security Advisor Alejandro majorcus
is or is it is he had a Department of
Homeland Security that he's the head of the Department of
Homeland Security. He used to be the president of the
Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society. And you wonder why our borders
are open, and you wonder.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, there's always been something odd with me
about the Republican Party being so fervently Zionist. But all Desigonists,
Israelis and Jews are all very very pro open borders.
I mean you had even had that Yahu saying, yeah,
I think the rest of the world is going to
take on these Palestinians as we ethnically cleanse them out
of Palestine.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, no one wants them. And there's the
reason for that. The Palestinians are not Palestinian leadership. It
is they're not good people historically. I was talking about
with a friend of mine, Hunger there. Well, they're put
it this way, they're not good for your country. I
was talking about my friend, my friend Hunger, who's a let.
He has dual citizenship in Lebanon and he goes to
Lebanon all the time. He has family in Lebanon. I
think he has a business in Lebanon. And he said
that what really started this whole thing with Lebanon and
Hezbollah and everything. Basically Hesbola came into existence because Palestinians
were ethnically cleansed out of Israel into Lebanon, and then
they started causing a lot of shit. And I've heard
the same thing about when they go into Egypt they
become very subversive, and which you know, Sheldon Richmond thinks
that the Palestinians are actually the real Jews, that they've
been there for two thousand years and they converted to
Islam over the time, which would explain a lot. But
the you find out that wherever they go, they cause problems.
And I'm not saying that like I like the Palestinians.
I'm saying that they're fighting against what I consider to
be my enemy, Zionists who control the banks, control Hollywood,
control pornography, control, give us feminism. I'm not saying this.
Dennis Prager said this. Dennis Prager is the one who
said that everyism, except for Nazism is came from Jews
and everything. I'm like, Okay, then I'm gonna believe you.
I'm gonna choose to believe you. Okay. Yeah. Was that
a good thing? Feminism? A good thing for this country?
Was the Civil Rights Act a good thing for this country?
Gay rights? Was that a good thing for this country? Now?
I'm one of these people who I don't think we
should be knocking on people gay people's doors and like
you know, pulling them out in black, baging them and
taking them and killing them. But go back, go back
in the closet, really go back in the closet. I mean,
if you're we can't have open degeneracy, and we can't
have we can't have this. It's not good for the culture.
I mean, ever since all of this happened, has the
culture gotten better? Has government gotten better? Governments? You used
it as a way to take more power over us.
And that's one thing that like a lot of libertarians
can't figure out because they want to make everything about economics.
Economics is just the tool, it is just one of
the tools they use. But really what they have to
do is they have to set up a culture in
which they can use that economics to start funneling money
all over the place. And you have to create minorities
and victim groups that we you know, we need money
for them, and you know they need our prayers, and
we really have to be nice to them and everything.
You know. It's like, I mean, a couple of years ago,
I lost a Twitter account because I said, I pointed
out that it was only gay men who were getting
monkey pox, and then monkey pox exited the news the
day after an article came out saying that dogs and
children were getting monkey pops. Okay, what am I supposed
to put together there? You know what points am I
supposed to connect there? Now? I'm I'm sorry. You can
you can have the greatest economics in the world, and
you know, and then and then, and then a bunch
of people come in and go, well, if you have
good economics, you know, it makes people make good decisions
and people have people get Look what happens when someone
wins the lottery. Usually they go broken, like what two
three years? Alcoholism, drug use. That's not what makes people happy,
That's not what changes people's I forget, what's the word
the Austrian economists use their preference? Well, I mean we
know most people have a high time preference, but I forget.
I'll remember, I'll remember it probably as soon as we
log off. But yeah, I mean it's what you're looking
at is I mean, I can understand good economics, and
I'd love to have good economics in this country too,
but good economics is not gonna help if you have
a you're not going to fix the economics in this country.
And then all of a sudden. People are going to
get better. People are going to somehow stop being sinners
or whatever degenerates. They're not going to have poor impulses.
They're not going to stop acting in degenerate ways. I mean,
it could there could be not enough money for them
to do it. But then again, if they don't have
enough money to do when crime go up, wouldn't there
be you know, when they seek to steal. I mean,
and that's not me advocating for giving people money. I mean,
I'd rather just kill them really, but or I mean,
or I'm on an island, empty the empty the Indian
reservations and put them in there or something like that,
and build an electric fence around it. Do something so
we can't live like this anymore. I mean, people are Yeah.
I love how people were screaming, oh the crime rate
was going down, the crime rate was going down, and
then recently it comes that the FBI was just absolutely
hiding and it was like three times higher than it
actually was. It's like, come on, come on, why is
this happening. It's not because it's not because we don't
have bitcoin. It's not because bitcoin isn't the money of
the land. Okay, Yeah, Bitcoin doesn't. Bitcoin doesn't fix people's
you know, it doesn't fix people's inclinations. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, you go to any major city across the
US right now, Pittsburgh, i' Milwaukee is still.
Speaker 3: Kind of a nice city. But I mean.
Speaker 2: I was in New York for a general motors training thing,
and I remember seeing people nobody.
Speaker 3: Who looked like me.
Speaker 2: I mean, like the people who were obviously like mechanics
and salesmen mostly, you know, or average white guys. You obviously,
like some black and Mexicans filled in there too, But
like when there were just hordes of immigrants standing in
a New York hotels like this is kind of strange,
and not of them speak English, so it's like, well,
what the hell are you doing here?
Speaker 1: Immigration is the number one thing. If you want prices
to go down to port twenty million people, if you
want prices to go down on housing, if you want
prices to go down on food, they could always produce
less to keep the prices high something like that, but
definitely housing, I mean they would have to make more.
They would have to immediately build more housing in order
for housing not to prices not to go down. You're
also going to solve the homeless problem. I mean, one
of the reasons you have a homeless problem in California
is is one, people can't afford to live out there too,
regulations stop or stopping people from building from new building.
And three it's I mean the weather or if you're
gonna be homeless somewhere at least, damn do it where
you can look good. Way, do it where you can
get a good tand and the weather is nice and
even look good. But immigration is the biggest thing. I mean,
we just you know, I my family, my mom's family
has been here since the early eighteen hundreds. I fought,
you know, people on that side who fought in the war,
the horrible you know, the terror of the worst war
we ever got into. And you know, I'm just I mean,
there's some people on my dad's side of the family
that I'd like to see go back, even the other citizens,
I'll like to see them go back. But I mean, really,
we can't, just can't. We have too many people there.
They're not from a culture that prizes anything. My biggest
problems with libertarians and open borders has always been that,
you know, I was an open borders libertarian at one time,
I thought it was, you know, that's the only way
because you know, fuck the police, and the police are
the ones that have to keep would have to be
would have to patrol the borders, and fuck the state
because the state would be doing it, you know. And
if you're a libertarian and you're like hoping for a
libertarian society, especially an an cap like I mean, I've
had an caps tell me on Twitter, like recently, say
we're going to see a Capistan in my lifetime and
I'm like, yeah, your fucking mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're not going to be there. Though none of
those people say that are going to be there.
Speaker 1: You're literally retarded. I mean, go ask your go ask
your leaders if they think if they asked Tom Woods,
ask Dave Smith, that asks Scott Horton, if they think
they're going to see you're going to see narco capitalism
in their lifetime, you know, on some mass scale, you
know what I mean, see it on a small scale,
you know, you have to. I'd become less and less
of a Thomas Soul fan every time because I realized
it realized he just wrote the same book over and
over again for the most part, like in the last
twenty years, but you know, he did say that there's
no such there's no such thing as perfect. There's only
trade offs. And that's what you're gonna have to do.
You're gonna have to figure out You're gonna have to
figure out tradeoffs. You're going to have to figure out
what you're willing to, what you're willing to put up with.
I mean, even you even have trade offs. If you
want to look at like a hoppy and covenant community,
you're going to give up some kind of liberty that
should be afforded to everyone according to you know, libertarians,
so that you're can have the safety of community of
like minded people and you're not all one going to
be one hundred percent like minded. But getting back to
my biggest criticism of open borders is you're importing people
who not only is you know, and I'll tell people this,
and I'll give you the I'll give you the rebuttal,
you're importing people that you're going to have to turn
into libertarians that you're going now you're going to have
to turn them into libertarians. They're not they're not inclined
to libertarians and where they come from, they maybe escape
if they're escaping someplace violent. All they're looking for is
state protection. They're not looking to hear about private police. Okay.
So and then somebody, some not even a Midwich this
has to be someone with an eighty five IQ, God
bless them, will say, well, you know there's people here
that you know most of the people here aren't interested
in libertarianism. I'm like, don't make my argument for me.
It's like, exactly, why would you want more if you're
saying it's okay for more to come, because there's people
here who will never accept it or who you're gonna
have to You're you're the one who's black pilled because
you're telling me that you don't ever believe this is
going to happen. It's never going to happen for you.
All it is is an identity. It's a religion for you. You
have no religion, You have no identity. Maybe you have
no family, no one you love, and it's the people
in your group chat who you all believe in the
same thing. And the reason you believe that, the reason
you won't step outside of your box that you've built
for yourself, is because you're scared that you'll be kicked
out of the group chat. Look, I've been kicked out
of a lot of group chats. It's liberating because those
group chats become echo chambers after a while. And why
would you want to just continually talk to people who
were just going to confirm your biases. You want to
be challenged. You know. The first time someone told me
you got to read The Machiavellians by James Burnham, I'm like,
I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't
want to change my mind. Then you read it and
you're like, oh, this is how power has worked since
the dawn of time. And it's not how and hop
Up probably has a better idea of how it works
than any other libertarian. But it's always going to be
this small group of people who were in charge because
three people can three people can organize better than three
hundred and fifty million, you know. So then you start
looking at that and you're like, oh, so it's always
this like elite group. They may not be elite morally,
they may not be elite metaphysically, but they're the ones
that are in charge. They're the ones who've taken over.
Now they may be shitty like the ones we have
now and we have to get rid of. But that's
why you have to raise up other elites. And actually,
you know, when it comes to like Silicon Valley, people
like Marc Andreessen and other people like that, it looks
like there are there are another group of elites that
are on the charge, and they are not one hundred
percent in my camp, but they're a hell of a
lot better than these friggin dick chopping tit chopping monsters
that are in charge right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I kind of noticed it seems like they're
a lot more indifferent rather than actively hostile, which I mean,
you got to walk before you get taken.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And one thing that I wanted to head on before
we kind of move on to they is, uh, you've
made the point before. Just give those Haitians economics and
one lesson, they'll become libertarians. But what does libertarianism require?
It requires a lot of abstract thought when.
Speaker 3: You're dealing with people who literally have an.
Speaker 2: IQ of sixty five to eighty five.
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, they.
Speaker 1: Can't entertain hypo they can't entertain hypotheticals. That's the thing
is when you're when your IQ's that low, you can't
entertain hypotheticals, and that's all like libertarianism is, it's hypothetically
if this thing was. But they can't do that. So
what you're going to end up what you realize when
you really start studying people. And I'm not saying people
can't their IQs can't be raised. I mean, you know
there it's not always that England had the average IQ
that had now was much lower, well over time, but
under the right circumstances. But Hades has some bad circumstances
for two hundred and twenty twenty five years of their
own doing. Mind you, but you you're not going to
be able. What you what you realize is is that
if you want order, if you want the if you
want the world to be the way you wanted to,
whether that be libertarian, with it, whatever it is, you're
basically going to end up having to tell people what
to believe and how to act. And that goes against
the fundamental you know, one of the fundamental keys of
libertarian which is a non aggression principle. As a non
aggression principle is it would be a sin to tell
people that they need to believe in this. I remember
I was interviewing a very popular libertarian. I'm not going
to say his name because this could potentially make him
I'm not insult I don't want to insult somebody, but
I mean, this is a long time ago. I said, well,
we can't force people to be libertarians. We can't have
a libertarian dictatorship. That would be you know, that would
be a contradiction. Well, people are if twenty twenty taught
us anything, the majority of people are being told or
waiting to be told, what to do and what to believe.
You got to get your people in If you gotta
get your people in charge and start telling people what
to believe and what to do. And if that is
to don't hurt people and don't take their stuff, well
you're going to have to You're gonna have to tell
people that. And you're gonna have to tell people that's
the way we do it from now on. And if
you don't do it that way, there will be consequences.
Isn't it funny how like they'll they'll mention, like you'll
hear about the most libertarian places on the planet, like Singapore.
You can walk in and start a business in a day.
You can start you can open a bank account in
the airport on a stopover. That's how liberal it is there.
When it comes to banking regulations, economic regulations. You spit,
you spit gum on the sidewalk, you get kinged. Well,
there's a reason why Singapore can have a multicultural society,
and it's a multicultural Asian society. And for people who
don't know it, Asian groups do not like each other.
There is a lot of tension between different Asian and
they get along because the state will fuck you up
if you step out of line, and it's still someplace
that you don't live return. Its all about Lichtenstein is
the same way. Lichtenstein is probably considering what Prince alois
and his dad Hans, you know what they believe. They're
friends with Hans Herman Happa. They they understand Austrian theory.
They understand you still pay the price if you step
out of line there and you have to and the
state's going to do it. It's not going to be
some private police force. And see, that's the thing is,
you can't ever have a private police force because if
private property is like your ultimate goal, it's like, don't
hurt people, don't take their stuff, and you have somebody
who has piece of land and they're hurting somebody on
that land, Well, somebody has to be able to make
the decision that an accept is going to be made
and we're going to go in there and we're going
to stop. Right, We're going to be a person who's
doing it.
Speaker 2: If you left that the non aggression principle, then if
that's your first principle.
Speaker 3: That would tell you that's wrong to do that.
Speaker 2: I did a podcast a couple of weeks ago called
while I'm not an anarchist anymore, and honestly, I do
think state, you know, it is justified for a state
to use bolence to stop somebody from committing an abortion.
I mean, we just have a culture now that doesn't
really believe in that. But like, you know, I think
that's perfectly reasonable to say no, you can't kill that child.
Or in situations like you know, Drag Queen Story Hour,
or where kids are being exposed to things that they
shouldn't be, why wouldn't we shut those things down? I mean,
those are the most vulnerable group of people amongst us.
Do we not want to protect our future?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean what those things do is when you
have people who can kill kill their unborn children, people
who can you know, men can dress up as women
and shake their dicks in front of it. And that's
what ends up happening at these drag queen story a
lot of these drag q story hours, not all of them,
but still it shouldn't be done. It shouldn't be done.
This is it goes against nature. Anyone who argues that
that's not against oh, well you know it's like, you know,
well there's you can go back and the Talmud has
sixty h Oh you want to bring that up. Huh,
all right, well you don't have to talk about that
if you want. You can't have people doing this. It
causes chaos. It causes people who instinctively know that there's
only that there's a binary male and female. It causes
chaos and the state, and especially the managerial state. Like
you know, I'm sure Hapa, if anyone is ready to democracy.
The God that fails knows that a king doesn't want
chaos in his kingdom. It's beneficial for him for business,
for everything to have order. Chaos when you have a
managerial state, when there's really no one in charge and
it's just this machine that's keeping ongoing no matter who
gets elected. They thrive off chaos because they're always it's
going to cause problems and they're gonna somebody's gonna call
them to step in. They create, they're basically creating their
own It's like a drug dealer giving away the first
hit for free. You're creating your own problems. And you know, saying, well,
just end the state, bro Well, okay, great philosophically, sure,
but how about we talk about reality and how to
deal with it in reality? Right now? Well, dealing with
it in reality would be mean you've you're the state's
best friend. That's what I've said about so many libertarians
when you hear them talk and they talk about how
we need to be able to free to do this,
and the border needs to be open and everything, you're
just growing the state. I can show you. You know,
whatever you're advocating for, most of the time, what you're
advocating for is just growing the state, is making the
state bigger. I mean, it's like, oh, well, you know,
we could have endless immigration if we just get rid
of if we just get rid of handouts, and okay,
get rid of the handouts. It's like Okay, you can't.
You can't even get rid of the handouts, and you're
talking you can't get rid of the entitlements, and you're
talking about getting rid of the state. It took a
war to get rid of slavery, what do you think
it's going to take to get rid of the state.
Not only that, if the state did collapse tomorrow, the
overwhelming majority of people are going to be asking for
another state. If you don't have something built up already,
if you don't have it, if you don't have control
of their minds already, when it collapses, they're just going
to go to what they know. And if they don't
know what you know, if they're not desiring what you desire,
they're just gonna go back to what you're left out
in the cold. I mean, the state is not going
to collapse tomorrow, and everybody's gonna be like, we should
give that an arctic capitalism thing and try. They're gonna
be like, no, feed me, I need to be fed.
Whoever you know, who rules, whoever can feed people? That's
who rules whoever can feed people or say that they
can feed people, or give the illusion that they can
feed people. If you're telling people. Well, you know, everybody
just wants to be free. You know, deep down inside,
everyone's a libertarian. I mean maybe until a virus comes
along and then everyone's hiding in their house and they're
listening to their government and they're they're following to they're
watching TV to find out if they can go to church. Okay,
So so you can solve that problem. You're a little libertarian.
I mean, let me tell you something. If I got
the kind of world I wanted, it would look way
more libertarian than this right now. It would be a
lot more libertarian because it would be very narrow and
you're going to need narrowness. If you're going to have
that kind of liberty, you're going to need people who
can self rule. Most people can't solve rule, which is
why I think Kappa, you know, came down to the
ten thousand liften surnimes thing. Where local if you want
to have your liberty. I've been to towns. My town is,
the town I live in is twenty four hundred people
to the middle Alabama. We have probably a thousand chickens
to every person in this county. Without a thousand chickens
for every one person in this county, probably one hundred
head of cattle for every that's work hard. They when
people get together around here, politics is not the first
thing they talk about, right. They talk about you know, well,
they're coming to take the chickens today, so we have
to you know, we'll be shut down. The chicken house
will be shut down for a couple of months, and
then we'll get a new influx in and everything. Are
you doing meat birds this year? You're doing eggs? How
are the cattle doing? When are they gone? That's the
first thing. And then they'll probably at some point talk
about national politics or something like that. We're completely a
political around here. I mean, it's just when it comes
to we don't even know. We don't even know who
the most of us don't even really know who the mayor.
I know who the mayor is. I know who the
sheriff is. I know that's just because that's who I am.
I want to know who these people are. Most people
don't care because you don't have to. No one's going
to step out a line around here. Everyone knows where
everyone lives. It's so funny. When I moved here and
I've been here, We've been here about a year and
a half. You know, I I told I was eating
at a restaurant in town and they're like, oh, where
are you moving? And I told them it was Oh,
I know that house. Yeah, that's the house is right
right here, and they know the address. Everyone knows everyone.
That's a way that you can have a culture where
it's very libertarian around here. I've been to towns in Ohio,
in southern Ohio where it was very very libertarian, where
it's like people didn't lock doors, they didn't no one sped.
You know, it was just basically, you know, you had
to deal with life. Oh, that's what happens when you
break things down into small homogeneous groups. And when you
have you don't have different even ethnic groups vying for yeh,
vying for supremacy over another in politics and whatever. You know,
It's it's funny to me when they when like Liberturians
and be like take Sweden, Yep, Sweden was completely free,
one of the most free market countries ever up until
a certain point when they decided that they they were
going to start giving away and they were going to
become basically a welfare state and they would have a
big welfare state and everything like that, But up until
that point it was great. I'm like, what else about?
Tell me about Sweden's demographics up until that point was
everyone Swedish? Why is Why does Iceland have like one
murder a year and it's like usually a tourist who
does it? Why did Iceland? Why did a cop in
Iceland somebody went crazy, pulled out a shot done, cop
showed up, had to kill him. Why did the cop
apologize profuser to the family, go to the funeral and
then retire? Why was he about that? Because it's an
island of three hundred thousand people who they haven't a
dating app where you put your name in there and
they figure out how related you are to each other.
These are people who don't kill each other. They don't
they're not looking to cheat. Sure, you're going to get
some cheating done. That's just family. I mean, it's just yea.
But it's not like freaking Camden, New Jersey. It's not
like Cleveland, Ohio. It's not like you know, South Side
of Chicago. It's not like you know, Hunt's Point in
the Bronx. Well. Why because it's a bunch of people
who not act and they're all related to each other.
And not all people are the same, because you can
go into some neighborhoods in this country that are all
one demographic and they're killing each other. So that comes
in that place into it too. But that's mean to
talk about or it's socioeconomic factors, which is the the
main go to for most libertarians, because you know, that's
what I have, and I want to shit on libertarians.
I mean, I like the looking at what what Angel
is doing with the LP and talking to Trump and
having dinner with Trump, and hey, it's fucking amazing. You know,
you have to be able to talk to power, and
you have to be able to willing to bend and
willing to go. What are the most important values I have?
I mean, are all these political values I have that
people are like? And that's one thing. That's another thing
that a lot of people choose libertarianism for because they
have no religion, and then they basically libertarianism gives them
some sense of like they can like, quote morality, Now, oh,
you're immoral because you want to take stuff from people. Okay,
you're thou shalt not steal? What's that based upon?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: Oh? Well, you know, I just say it. Okay, bang,
I'm taking everything now. Oh well it's based upon you know,
the God of the Bible, and he said that shalt
not steal. So I don't think we should steal. Okay,
Well tell me more. If you're just gonna, I mean,
if you're just gonna be like, well, you know it's
wrong to hurt people and take their stuff. Well why why? Well,
because people know why. You're gonna have to give me something.
You have to give me something outside of reason. Mm hmm,
you know. I mean, then you just become an objectivist
and you're a nine randite and you're just you know,
screaming about or screaming about one world government and the
police are running around and forcing reason, which is what
those lunatics talk about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're always rabbit sign. It's just it always
cracks me up, how that, every single time, every single time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So one thing I wanted to hit on with you
as well was when people say they so right, now,
we've kind of danced around elite theory here, but I
think to your point, twenty twenty really showed you that
people are looking for elites, right and much to another
point that you were making is that basically if the
state were to collapse tomorrow, people are going to, you know,
basically look to elites to see what we're going to
do next. I've heard you and a lot of other
people kind of you know, in the distant rights space,
if you will, the loose hodgepodge of people who are
in there, talk about the paypalm mafia.
Speaker 3: And there's people that.
Speaker 2: I like and people that I'm skeptical of, and people
that I'm less skeptical of.
Speaker 3: But when it comes to.
Speaker 2: The when it comes to the whole Trump situation, and
I think you and I probably agree on this, but
I do want to get your expanded thoughts on this.
You know, we hear a lot about the city in London,
right there's obviously the Israeli lobby, and then we have
the paypalm mafia. To me, when I look at all
this stuff, the guys who like the pay palm mafia
always go all in on, oh, well, these guys are
gonna be s hereing the next Trump administration, because look,
jad Vance is in there, and I think JB. Vance
is actually legitimately impressive. But then you know, obviously there's
a lot of people who just go straight to, oh,
the Jews control everything, right, and they're one hundred percent
on that. I don't say, I lean, I don't. I'm
not one hundred percent in that camp, but I lean
towards that because we have a president of Trump being
very pro Israel, and then Miriam Adelson kind of following
him around and donating assholes of monitors campaign. Not that
nobody else is donating, but she seems to be a
constant figure. And once again we have record of this.
And then the city of London, that's the one I'm
most ignorant on. But once again we hear that the
you know of the city in London is a lot
of what drives like a lot of global monetary policy.
So what are your thoughts amongst that? And not just
like the Trump camp, but overall, like who's pulling the
strings when people say they.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a fight. Yeah. I think
he's taken money from a lot of people. I think
he's taken money from Silicon Valley types. I think he's
taken money from Adolson, from Acman. The thing is is
that it's hard to tell, you know, it's I'm I'm
one of those people who thinks that things can only
get better if the regime in charge is out out
of power. Sure, but that doesn't mean that Joe Biden
and you know, Kamala Harris are out of the White House.
That means that, like the the executive branch government has
two point eight million employees. I don't care what it
does to the economy, about two point six million of
them need to go. I need to get it down
to about two hundred thousand. If the military isn't it
is included in there, then it would be like it'd
be like I would say, fifty thousand plus the military
plus the military, and you've got to get rid of
a lot of those military people because I mean, they
try to trans the whole fucking military. And it was
like somebody asked me, I think it was Tim Kelly said, so,
Trump said that he liked he wished he had generals
like Adolf Hitler did. And I said, oh, you mean
he wished he didn't have trend. He wished he had
generals that weren't trands or generals, generals like Millie who
talks about his white privilege.
Speaker 3: MM.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So and then Tim asked me another question that was, uh,
which is a good question. It's it's a good question,
and it's why I'm you know, I want to see
Trump as president just because there's possibilities that can happen.
I don't think anything is certain. Tim asked me the question.
He said, can you do elections matter when you have
an occupied government? Yeah? So yeah, I'm hoping that it's
more the Elon Musk crowd, you know, the the Mark
Andreas and crowd that is going to be influencing. I
still don't think Trump likes war. JD. Vans clearly said,
I think it was on the Tim Dillon Show. But
he doesn't want to see He doesn't want war, you know,
he doesn't want to see war.
Speaker 2: He said, our interest our interests are, our interests are
not in war with Iran. And I share that into
because it's right. It was very important for someone like
him in his position to say that.
Speaker 1: Right. So I don't think that Trump likes war. I
don't think that, you know, he everybody's like, well, Marion
Madelson has given him all this money. So her husband
gave him all the money in twenty sixteen, and he
didn't go to war for Israel. So he bombed Syria.
But it was one of those one of those we
need to save face kind of bombings where he just
bomb like empty empty runways and stuff like that. And
then after they killed Solimani, which is probably his biggest
his biggest two to me, his two biggest mistakes in
the first had to do with Iran was killing Solomony,
which I think he did at the behest of somebody
inside the Iranian government who was just basically jealous for
one of Solomoni out of the way and and getting
out of the JCPO way the Iran deal. Right, But
I still think that he doesn't like war because he's
a businessman and business no matter what. Yeah, there is
a small group of business people in this country that
love war. Most people don't like war. Bankers. People think bankers,
why would a banker like war? They're probably lending money
to both, to people on both sides of the war,
which means that they're not gonna get paid back from
one of them. Yeah, you know, that doesn't make any sense.
You're not gonna make enough money. You're not gonna make
enough profit off of lending to one and if you know,
you're not going to get paid from the other one.
So that doesn't make any sense to me. You know,
people are always like, oh, well, both sides of World
War two were financed by this one person and everything
like that. It's like someone didn't get paid or they
or if they did get paid, I mean it was
way down the line, and you know, bankers want one
instant gratification. For the most part, I just don't see
I don't see Trump wanting to get us into wars
unless we absolutely have to. It's just I'm looking at
his history and as far as like the people who
are influencing them now, I'm hoping and it looks more
than anything, at least from the outside, that Elon Musk
is the one who's probably influencing of the most. And
if Elon Musk is influencing of the most, he wants
to create that Department of Government Efficiency and start to
start cutting cost cutting costs and kind of it's going
to reduce the size of government. Mm hm. My ultimate
goal is that somebody like Vivek, who has clearly said
on like Sean Ryan's podcast, that you know, the administrative
state has to be dismantled, hoping he's going to have
some kind of say in it. All you can do
is hope, because you just don't know. You don't know
what's gonna happen. I mean, they're gonna probably try and
just keep killing trying, keep trying to kill him. I mean,
I don't even know. I'm I'm of the opinion and
I'm not making predictions, but I honestly think that like
next Tuesday, by midnight, we're going to know he won.
I don't think anybody. I think you're you have this
very small segment of the population that's completely anti Trump.
They'll vote for any They'll vote for anyone who is
in Donald Trump. I think, for the most part, I
think people are going to vote for him. And I
don't even know. I don't think cheating is gonna work.
I don't think cheating will happen in Pennsylvania because Josh
Shapiro wants to run for president in four years and
right Tamala then she's gonna be he won't be able
to run in twenty twenty eight. Same thing with the
witch Gretchen Whitmer up up in Michigan. I think cheating
is gonna happen in Arizona, and Arizona will go blue.
But I think that Florida is going to be red.
H something that I saw. I said that if Trump
wins Pennsylvania, Kamala has a four point four percent chance
of winning. So I think I think it's gonna be
over that night. I think we're gonna be you know,
we're doing I'm doing a live stream with the Old
Glory Club. We're gonna have people in and out all night,
and everything I think we're gonna be over will be
over by midnight. I think it'll be called by midnight.
Even with I think it's going to be so out
of balance that the mail in ballots won't even matter anything. Yeah,
and then no one's allowed. The Supreme Court just or
the Fifth Circuit just passed that law which takes which
is national that no ballots after election they are going
to be counted. So nothing after the close of poles
is going to be counted. I think I don't think
that they're going to be able to cheat this time.
You know, you don't rob the same bank twice in
a row. You wait a little bit. So I think
there are I think Jeff Bezos, with some of the
things he's done at the Washington Post in the last
couple of weeks, has already resigned himself to the fact
that Trump is going to win. I think you can
see a lot of people who believe that Trump is
going to win. Kamala has gone from opportunity economy to
everyone's a fascist but me, And I mean she's she's
basically had a meltdown ever since that Brett Baer interview.
I mean, she's just she has looked as she acts
like a monster. And there may be some people out
there who want who want her to be that way
and want to see are okay with that. But even Trump,
when you look at Trump, I mean he's not nearly
from like twenty sixteen when he had a lot he
seemed a lot more on edge and a lot meaner
like he was. Yeah, it seems like he's having a
good sense. Seems like ever since Butler, he's like calmed down.
It seems like he's having fun, you know, And I
think that comes off and I think the more fun
he has, the more they call him a fascist, which
is just I mean, look, man, I wish he was.
I really wish he was, because I said in my
sub sect this morning, this government is so criminal. They've
done so many criminal things, like this thing that just
came out that James Comy had like put honey pots
into the Trump campaign in twenty sixteen, even before the
whole cross fire hurricane official things started. He had had
off the books people in there trying to inform and
also insert into the campaign things. And yeah, you have
to take somebody like from government who's done really really
awful shit, someone from academia and someone from like the press,
and like put them on trial and try, you know,
people who've done people who you know, of committed crimes,
have like very public trials and then put them in jail.
People need to know that they that they can't do
this anymore. But they can't just stand there and over
and over again say that someone is a you know,
accuse someone of being a Russian asset, and you know,
while they're taking money from who knows whatever interest group
to do this. And you know, there's unless he does that,
unless he really unless they have the whatever this team
that's going to be informing him, unless they are willing
to really punish their enemies and do things that have
never been done before, like getting rid of entire departments.
I mean, Curtis Yarvin said a few years ago. I
mean he's been saying this for years. The State Department
doesn't even need to exist. It's the pressman and three
of his advisors on zoom. You don't need that bill.
You turn that building into a museum or something. And
but is it going to happen? That's the question. I
want it to. But I'm not Pollyanna. I don't I'm
not I'm not nothing. I'm not one of the nothing
ever happens bros. But I'm definitely one of the ones
who's like, we're definitely not going to get one hundred
percent of what we want, and we should be damn
happy if we get thirty percent of what we want
because they've been designing this government the way it operates
since FDR died. FDR had the power of a king.
He could do whatever he wanted. I mean, when you
look at how many executive orders he wrote, it's like
four times more than every other president might be three.
He was a king. And when he died, he did
not leave his power to Harry Truman. He did not
pass his power down. That power went down into the departments.
That's how we have the Some people call it the
deep state. I like the managerial state makes more sense
to me because it's just rule by managers and all
they're doing is they're managing to keep their jobs and
keep this thing going so that they can do whatever
they want. And it doesn't matter if he gets elected
or a Republican. You know, there's the old joke in
it in Washington, d C. Goes to a Georgetown bar
and it's say, hey, who are you voting for? Personality? Like,
there was that the Cheney biopic they did a few
years ago where I think I think what's his name,
Christian Bale gained like one hundred and fifty pounds to
play Cheney or something like that.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Remember there's a beginning of that when he meets Don
Rumsfeld and they're talking and they're like they're like, okay,
we're going to do this. Okay, what are we a
Democrat or Republican? And he just looks at him and laughs.
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter when you're when to
the administrative state. It doesn't to guys like that, who
powers all that matters. I mean, look, Victorian Newland served
in the served in the Bush White House and the
Biden White House. It doesn't matter. She's responsible for the
she's responsible for the Ukraine War almost single handily responsible
for the same for the for the Ukraine War. I mean, oh,
we're gonna get We're gonna get our We're gonna have
a coup, We're gonna overthrow the elected president, put our
own puppets in there, and then we're gonna have them
start killing Russians in the don Bass to provoke Putin
to Putin's biggest mistake was he didn't invade earlier. You
should have invaded when Obama was in office. I mean,
that's his big his biggest mistake. Anyone who tells me
that if Donald Trump was in office, he would have
invaded is retarded. We know that if Donald Trump would
not have had the election taken from him in you know,
certain counties, they fixed, certain counties all around the country
that wouldn't have happened, It wouldn't happen. And he says
October seventh wouldn't have happened. I tend to believe that.
I tend to believe October seventh might not have happened
if he was if he was president. But because I
think about if you're think about if you're a leader,
So think about if you're somebody who like like ahead
of Hummas or something like that. Or think about if
you're Biden and you or think about if you're you're
putin and your people are being killed and you're like,
who's the president over there?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Guy shitting in his pants? Okay, sure let's do this.
Yeah why not? I just yeah, to bring this all
the way back around. I don't know. I don't know
what to expect. We you know, we could get the
most pro pro you know, Israel four years. I have
a tendency to believe. I've said about Donald Trump is
I don't think Donald Trump is a Zionist. I think
he liked I think he loves Jewish people. He's been
around Jewish people his whole like life. I think he
likes Jewish people. I think he wants to please people
actually think his and there's no reason an American president
should have anything to do with moving their moving the
embassy from one place to another. I think he did
that to please his to please a couple of friends.
I don't think he did that because he's a Zionist.
And that makes a big difference. There's a big difference
between somebody being like, eh, you know, I like I've
been I've been to Israel a few times and I
like it, and I like the people, and somebody being
a rabid Zionist who is like, yeah, I don't care
if they kill everybody and Daza women and children. I
don't care, because that's what you have to be to
be a Zionist. You have to be a Jewish supremacist.
I don't think he's a Jewish. I don't think he's
a supremacist for anything. Will he get us into a
war for Israel? I highly doubt it. Nothing's on nothing's
off the table. Nothing's off the table when you know
it's going to be Who his closest advisors are. His
biggest problem the last time was he wasn't ready. He
hired people who weren't going to be loyal to him,
weren't we weren't even gonna be loyal to him, but
loyal to his vision of what he wanted to do.
Speaker 2: Thing.
Speaker 1: He's doing a little better this time. So thing he's
got you know, some outside the some elites that are
looking to supplant the current elites that are in charge.
You know, you Preto talks about a circulation of elites,
and every once in a while you have to have
a circulation of elites or else is everything just you know,
elites just become deranged and decadent, and you get what
we have what we have now?
Speaker 3: All right, Well, maybe a good place to wrap it.
Speaker 2: Then, do you think this supporting Trump and Vance right
now is a down payment on kind of like a
more vance Peter Thiel esque kind of future for the
Republican Party?
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, you know one of the you know a
lot of people have reasons for not liking Peter T
and I understand all of them. One thing that I
do know about Silicon Valley people is they cherish competence,
which is why, you know, I think someone like the
Acre JD. Evans can look at the administrative state and
say it has to go because you can't have competence.
You can't have competent governance if you have people who
have no skin in the game. Let's face it. You
know people in the administrative state, they don't have any
skin in the game. But I think they like competence. Yeah.
I've heard one person that I've really been following very
closely is Mark injuriesOn and watching him talk about how,
you know, we need a strong military if for nothing else,
just to be as deterrent for other people. I mean,
we have a very weak military right now. You know,
we don't have enough foot soldiers too. If are if
you're just looking at our enlisted class of soldiers, like
just say the army, they would have lasted two and
a half months in Ukraine fighting as Ukraine did because
there's less than thirty thousand. Leah Enfield and I did
went over an Army War College paper on my show.
It talked about that. So the military needs to be
built back up because the world we live in you
need a strong military. People will people will mess with
all of your interests. We don't need to have bases
in one hundred and eighty countries or however many countries
we have. Hopefully somebody will look at that and go, yeah,
we need to draw that back. But the reason we
have those bases, especially the basis in Europe, is because
of World War Two. And you know who's occupying us,
Who's been occupying us since World War Two. So city
of London, the City of London is brought childs. People
like that. They control international banking. They used to control
a lot in this in the United States up until
Jerome Powell went to war with them, started going to
war with them a couple of years ago, and we
got off of live or which is London it's your
bank exchange rate, and that was that allowed like London
to if you took out a credit card in Oklahoma
and Oklahoma bank, London was dictating what the interest rate
was on that. And we got out of that. And
now it's run through so forth in Chicago, and we've
seen the Euro weaken to the point where the euro
is the Euro's on life support right now. That's just
because Jerome Powell, the first Gentile fed president in decades
upon decades, and I think as the generation Virginian has
decided to go to war with the Rothschilds and their
faction over there. While you while you have one of
their faction as the head of the Treasury here Janet Yellen,
which is not an easy thing to do, or you
or you have one of the occupying people controlling treasury.
So I think the City of London is is scrambling.
They're trying to figure out a way. I mean they
I guess they get maybe called in some favors from
Malay and Argentina, who it turns out as one of them,
and he sent them gold. And I think pretty much
the reason consensus from some people I know who are
in the know say he sent them gold so that
they'd have more to lend against. They can, they can
use it as a backing to lend with because they
need to be able to lend money in order to
make money, because that's what the roth child e'll do.
And yeah, so them World Economic Form is yeah, I know,
you didn't even bring them up. World Economic Forum from
everything I understand, it's often to my friends Stormy Waters
is just basically a sort of a side show. It
floats things out there to see how people react. I'm
not really too worried about the World Economic Forum anymore.
Once you really start understanding where power and wealth comes from,
you realize it's not from them. They still have a lot,
they still have a lot to say, and there's still
some people there who will hold some power.
Speaker 2: But still maybe this comparison is or is an app
But would you almost kind of say, like the World
Economic Form is almost like a think tank for some
of the leaders.
Speaker 3: In a way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a place, you know, it's a
place I mean, I know people, I've talked to people
who've spoken at the World Economic Form and they say, well,
it kind of have to you have if you're if
you're getting your name out there and you're you're in business,
you're a VC or something like that. It's an easy
way to get your name out there and to you
don't even have to agree with them. And apparently they're
pretty good about that. I mean they've had a lot
of people go there and speak and like like shit
it on them, right to their face. You know, there's
an old Putin speech from twenty twenty one that's really
good where he's like he almost I mean he almost
sounds like an Austrian in the because he's so he's
so like, I don't like you people at all, because
he sees them as the people who would be pulling
the strings on a or funding a Victoria new one.
So but the you know, there's a lot, there's so
much you could talk about NATO. NATO doesn't even exist anymore.
I mean, NATO is just basically an excuse for Jewish
power to do what it does. You don't see them
doing anything. NATO doesn't do anything that isn't benefiting a
small country in the Middle East. Yeah, there's a lot
out there, and one four year presidency isn't going to
fix it all. So well, I hope that you know,
there's a wall somewhere that'll be knocked down, that'll open
up some doors, you know, that'll allow us to walk
past that wall wall that was up, to be able
to get another couple things done, or be able to
build something for the future, if it would be a business,
whether it be something parallel or something like that. Hopefully
that's what the next four years can be. The next
four years could be worse. Who knows, You don't know.
That's the that's the terrible thing about electoral politics, especially
as Tim Kelly asked, you know, Tim Kelly said, you
know this is really even matter when you haven't occupied
the government. So yeah, it's hard to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've I've tried to refrain from making too many
predictions because honestly, all mine from twenty twenty two to
twenty twenty one have been proven absolutely wrong. I think
I've been wrong about almost every single thing.
Speaker 3: About this election.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, all right, you know what, I don't
know shit, and that's okay. I'm not ship that's Okay, I.
Speaker 1: Got to take the victory lap. I called JD. I
called JD. Vance back in February. So I'm taking the
victory lap.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, you you kind of deserve it because I was
rooting for Nicky Haley, not rooting, but I thought that
was going to be it because there were a lot
of people kind of in that orbit, floating that out there,
and you know, even his what was it, his daughter
in law Laura was.
Speaker 1: Saying, you're roboting, You're roboting right now?
Speaker 3: Did it break up there?
Speaker 1: You go? Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were just some people, Oh my bad. But
Laura Trump had put out she was asked on the
news if Nikki Haley could be vice president and she
had said that, well, you never know with him, and
there were some other people that were kind of.
Speaker 3: Hanging at that. But you know, I think JD.
Speaker 2: Vance was probably the best of all options, So the
best of all people that he could have picked, because
when I heard MARKO Ruby, I'm Michael, please God no,
But he went for J. D.
Speaker 3: Banson.
Speaker 2: I think anybody that doesn't look at that and say
he was the best option, I don't who else were
you expecting?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't know, you know, I think they wanted
the homosexual attempts. Some people wanted the homosexual attempts Scott
and they're, oh, no, wait a minute, he just got married.
Speaker 3: I forgot all about that.
Speaker 1: You know. Some people wanted Ted Cruz not to Marco Rubio. Yeah,
oh so bad, so bad. You know. Some people said, yeah,
I know, I think Dave. I think Dave Smith and
Robbie Robbie Bernstein wanted Vivic Robiswani m m yeah. But
you know, we got who we got, and we can
just we could be glad it's not Nicky Haley or
Marco Rubio or somebody that you know what you're getting.
I'd rather have a wild card at this point and
you know exactly what to expect about the next four years.
I want to be surprised or not surprised at all
and just be like, oh, same old, same old, Eh,
nothing ever changes. I'll become maybe in the next four years,
I'll become like the ultimate nothing ever changes. Bro. But
I mean, but that's black that's black pilling. So and
I'm not black pilled. Because you can say what you
want about politics, but really in your personal life, as
long as you keep moving forward and you keep improving
and you you know, keep moving, don't stay stagnant. The
white pills flow as long as you have personal white
white pills coming in, really, that's all that matters. You're
politics is always going to have a black pill for you,
so you know, try to keep the white pills coming
in as best you can on your own to what
you can do.
Speaker 2: Dude, I completely agree. Yeah, I think it's a beautiful
place to wrap it. Peak od plug your stuff, man.
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So yeah, it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be fun.
But the Old Glory Club we we started two years ago,
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we have a great present. We still have a presence
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know are our president read Hawk, he speaks red Hawk,
speaks very well of you. He always mentions you and yeah, yeah,
so Old Glory Club. That's what I'm most helpful for
for the future is finding young people who are of
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in some positions where they can make a change in
the world.
Speaker 3: Absolutely well.
Speaker 2: I say it all the time that the Old Glory
Club is my favorite right wing organization. And on top
of that, when it said there was that thing from
af Post saying that the majority of like younger Republican
voters support an arms and bargo on Israel, I'm like,
I'm giving Old Glory Club credit for this. I don't
care what it is. You guys get the credit for it.
So yeah, hopefully everybody goes to check that out. I'll
be turning thirty the day that we know, will hopefully
know the election results. So oh congrats, man, Yeah, thank you, Yeah,
so you made it. Yeah three decades man, it went
by fucking quick. I know that much, but all right, yeah,
thank you everybody so much for listening. Pete, thank you
so much for hanging out. Man sick around for a
few minutes and uh we'll close.
Speaker 3: Are out there,