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<v Speaker 1>Man, was that fun last night? Of what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you were watching. I don't know what else

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<v Speaker 1>you would be watching, quite honestly, but you see what

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<v Speaker 1>took place in Montreal last night, and you see how

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<v Speaker 1>fluid and how fast and how skilled and how together

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<v Speaker 1>a team should be. I don't care the sport, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care if it's basketball, football, baseball, you name it, lacrosse,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead, soccer, whatever, When you're together, when you're feeding

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<v Speaker 1>off each other's vibes, when you've got that feel, that chemistry,

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<v Speaker 1>that symmetry. I know sometimes we overuse that word, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's really evident with Team USA, at least

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<v Speaker 1>last night as they started to click a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Finland is a team that may not have had it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as we spoke yesterday with Greg Wishinsky, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you enjoyed that interview. He's the senior hockey writer

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<v Speaker 1>for ESPN dot com and we talked to him at

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<v Speaker 1>eight o'clock yesterday. It's on our podcast. You can check

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<v Speaker 1>that out at xbree Mornings, ex'es and Bros. Here Monday

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<v Speaker 1>through Friday, six until nine. It is. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>refreshing to watch you know. I mean, it's really fun

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<v Speaker 1>to watch a team understand one another, and considering a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these guys don't play with one another during

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season. It's just a collection of talent. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you could put together a lot of great players, that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean they're going to be great together. And it

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<v Speaker 1>did take you know, half a period, maybe a full

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<v Speaker 1>period for Team USA to click. And I don't say

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<v Speaker 1>that just because the score was one one. Finland scored first,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have two or three of their top defensemen,

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<v Speaker 1>but they played pretty gritty. I mean, if you watched

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<v Speaker 1>the intermission report with Mark Messier and PK Suban, they

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about that and how Finland just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stands you up the way they're going going to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember in ninety five, everybody talked about, you know, New

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey and how they won with the left wing trap

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<v Speaker 1>and all those other things, and how it was bad

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<v Speaker 1>for the sport. You know, when did it end up happening.

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<v Speaker 1>The Devil's ended winning the Stanley Cup that year, and

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<v Speaker 1>they used that format to be very successful, to be

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<v Speaker 1>a really challenging team for an extended period of time

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<v Speaker 1>during NHL history. Finland knows they can't skate with Team USA.

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<v Speaker 1>They know they have to be physical, but Team USA

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<v Speaker 1>brings that physicality as well. They're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to win a high scoring game. So what did

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<v Speaker 1>they do. They played a certain style that allowed them

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<v Speaker 1>to stay in the game, and then Team USA started

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<v Speaker 1>to open things up a little bit and the entire roster,

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<v Speaker 1>that USA roster. I mean, Dylan Larkin is a really

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<v Speaker 1>good hockey player. You and I both know that, right

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<v Speaker 1>You and I have had these discussions before. Dwight think

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<v Speaker 1>he's a number one center on a really good team.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not probably number two, but that's okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not taking anything away from I think he said. I

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<v Speaker 1>love having him on the Red Wings. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>awesome that he's the captain of this team, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's the right choice. And I love the contract extension.

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<v Speaker 1>He gives you everything he's got. He plays two hundred feet.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not afraid to, you know, go down and behind

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<v Speaker 1>the net and mix it up a little bit. He's

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<v Speaker 1>an aggressive back checker. I love everything about that with

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan Markin. But on this team, and I know this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't a regular season NHL team, so don't take it

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<v Speaker 1>as if you know this is where he belongs on

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<v Speaker 1>a regular NHL team, because it's not. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>best America has to offer. For the most part. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth line center. He's playing penalty kill. He's not

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<v Speaker 1>on the number one power play. He's not getting a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of shifts, he's not getting a ton of ice time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's thrilling for him to be on this team, and

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<v Speaker 1>he should be thrilled. I mean, it's the ultimate, really

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<v Speaker 1>it is. It's the ultimate, a compliment to you as

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<v Speaker 1>a player. And he's playing with you know, his good friend,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Warinsky. You got the state of Michigan heavily represented.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Connor's out there, Dylan Larkin is out there, Connor

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<v Speaker 1>Hullabuck is out there, Zach Warinsky is out there. That's fun, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's really cool. I was talking with, you know, my

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<v Speaker 1>best buddy, and he was on his way back from

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<v Speaker 1>the airport because he travels a lot, and this was

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<v Speaker 1>at night, ironically enough, coming back from Alaska in Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>with his job, and he was saying, yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what's going on. He's in the car right

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<v Speaker 1>and quite honestly, he's not one of those guys who

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<v Speaker 1>he used to be heavily into sports, and now it's

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<v Speaker 1>just turned him off. He he's just not up with

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<v Speaker 1>it anymore. So I was talking to him while the

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<v Speaker 1>game was going on and almost doing a little play

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<v Speaker 1>by play and talking about how good team USA is

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<v Speaker 1>and love watching him play and so on and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>And I told him about all the different Michiganders on

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<v Speaker 1>this team, and Kyle Connor, by the way, he did

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<v Speaker 1>have an assist, and he he was like, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty cool. I like that. I said, yeah. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>how's Dylan Larkin? I said, good. You look down on

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<v Speaker 1>the statistics. Dylan Larkin only had seventeen shifts, second fewest

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<v Speaker 1>of any of the forwards. Only Brought Nelson had fewer,

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<v Speaker 1>and he played the second fewest time on the ice.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a guy who's used to playing the most

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<v Speaker 1>time on the ice for Detroit other than the most cider.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Lucas Raymond leading the way for Detroit, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the forwards, he's the second fewest. That's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you work your way into it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he only had one shot. I'm not even sure he

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<v Speaker 1>had that. But the bottom line is he and his

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<v Speaker 1>team ruled the roost in Montreal and win six to one.

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<v Speaker 1>The story of the night, without question, is the Kachuck brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have I remember it's a little bit more in.

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<v Speaker 1>A month ago, maybe a month and a half, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>two months ago, somebody called in and said, SHEP, who's

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<v Speaker 1>the one player you would want from another team on

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<v Speaker 1>this team besides the superstars. You're not getting Connor McDavid

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<v Speaker 1>and Leon drisidled and Austin Matthews. Okay, what would do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember the name I brought up? You're not getting

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Kachuck in Florida, all right, he's the captain of Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>Or he's the assistant captain of Florida. Andrew Parkoff, I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>is the captain, and they've got him there. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to give him up, right, not that anybody wants

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<v Speaker 1>to give up a great player. Do you remember the

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<v Speaker 1>name I said? I said, Brady Kuchuk, And I said

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<v Speaker 1>Brady Kuchuk because of his physicality and because of his

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<v Speaker 1>offensive prowess, and his offensive game was on display last night.

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<v Speaker 1>He had two goals, and his brother Matt Kuchuk had

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<v Speaker 1>two goals. In an assist now. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you feel about Keith Kachuk when he played primarily with

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Louis during his career, And I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you feel about them because I think they can be

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<v Speaker 1>a little polarizing. They play with an edge like their

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<v Speaker 1>dad did, but they play with an edge. They are

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<v Speaker 1>power forwards. Power forwards and hockey aren't always big, strong,

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<v Speaker 1>tough guys. Power forwards in hockey are guys who score

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the net, guys who play down below

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<v Speaker 1>the goal line, and guys who hit as well as score.

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<v Speaker 1>Brendan Shanahan is a perfect example of what a power

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<v Speaker 1>forward was. You would love to have somebody of that ilk.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I said Brady Kuchuck and Brady Kachuk was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best players on the ice last night

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<v Speaker 1>for Team USA. That sets up an unbelievable, cannot miss,

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<v Speaker 1>must watch situation tomorrow night, Team USA against Team Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awesome. God, that was fun to watch. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoyed it as much as I did.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really neat just coming out for warm ups,

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<v Speaker 2>the two of you following each other out onto the ice.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean to take a moment just to soak in

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<v Speaker 2>this whole situation and opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was.

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<v Speaker 2>Really really cool. Yeah, I was really really cool. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all I got to say. It was it's a special

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<v Speaker 2>moment for us to be able to play with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's when it finally set in, when when

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<v Speaker 2>the fans were obviously brewing us as we came up

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<v Speaker 2>for warm ups and I'm following him, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>just it was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so cool. Matthew Kidchuck playing with his brother.

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<v Speaker 1>First time they've done that at the professional level. First

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<v Speaker 1>time a pair of brothers in the United States has

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<v Speaker 1>scored in the same game in the same tournament. Each

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<v Speaker 1>had two goals. Matt could Chuck, the Stanley Cup champion,

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<v Speaker 1>had two goals and an assist. For me, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just an absolute blast. And we talked about it with

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Wishinsky yesterday. Hockey needs to do a better job

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<v Speaker 1>of promoting its sport. How do you do that? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's easy for me to just say this is what

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<v Speaker 1>you this is what you've got to do, But then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to ask yourself, how do you do it? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's easy for a guy like a talk

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<v Speaker 1>show host to sit back. You know, hockey doesn't do

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<v Speaker 1>a great job of promoting itself, for marketing itself. They

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<v Speaker 1>got to do a better job with their they're athletes. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty generic statement. The question follow up from

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<v Speaker 1>anybody in hockey or any fan should be okay, chev,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're so smart, what do you do? I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what you do. You put on events like this

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<v Speaker 1>where the gas level you and I says what does

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<v Speaker 1>gas stand for? They give a blank. If I were

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<v Speaker 1>Shaquille O'Neil and just say the word because apparently there's

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<v Speaker 1>no apparently there's no problem saying that. That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>On TNT, he can just say S and F and

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. That's no big deal and people laugh

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<v Speaker 1>at it. You know, Ernie Johnson, you said F on

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<v Speaker 1>the air, Kenny Smith, that's great. You said S on

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<v Speaker 1>the air, Charles Barge that a boy would go, man,

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<v Speaker 1>and then people just go, this is awesome. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>watch some more of it. It's the number one pre

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<v Speaker 1>and postgame show in all of sports because they say

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<v Speaker 1>S and F. Okay, that's the way it works. Cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, can't do that on a local show or

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<v Speaker 1>but you can do it on TNT. I think get

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<v Speaker 1>rewarded for it. That's really cool anyway, So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you do you put on events like this or you

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<v Speaker 1>make sure this happens. I'm not saying you do it

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<v Speaker 1>every year because that might get a little much and

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<v Speaker 1>then it wears. There's something about in all of life perhaps,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's something about having it special like Christmas. Once

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<v Speaker 1>you love Christmas, of course you do, but it's only

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<v Speaker 1>once a year. You treasure it thanksgiving, you treasure it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you can't have or probably don't have the Four

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<v Speaker 1>Nations Tournament every year? Do you like the Ryder Cup TRENT?

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<v Speaker 1>I do, okay, every other year, right, every other year? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what makes it special. This is not the super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl of hockey. It's not the Stanley Cup Finals of hockey.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are special moments, right this you want you want

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<v Speaker 1>it to mean a little bit more. So, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is really good. The other thing hockey needs to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to do and they do it, but they just

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<v Speaker 1>don't promote it nearly enough. There was a really good

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<v Speaker 1>shot of the coaching staff led by Mike Sullivan, who's

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<v Speaker 1>guest to read off the lines. That's what always happens

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<v Speaker 1>in hockey. Coach stands in front of everybody, gives him

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<v Speaker 1>paper with his lines, okay, the top four lines, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they read off the forwards, and then the pairing

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<v Speaker 1>of the defenseman and who's in net, and everybody claps

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<v Speaker 1>in between each one. Those types of moments pretty awesome, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Putting the go pro on Matthew Kachuk as they go

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<v Speaker 1>and the players that they have. After Canada beat Sweden,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a there was a camera in the Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>dub Now. Brad Marshan is a If you've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>all right, but he does have a personality, And I

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<v Speaker 1>know most people, including my sons, feel like he's a rat.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't stand him. He's the instigator, he gets under

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that every opposing team's fan base hates. Which

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<v Speaker 1>it takes something to do that, It really does. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>think about it. Do you want to be hated everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>you go except for your hometown. That's not an easy

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<v Speaker 1>Who's that guy in Detroit? I don't think the Red

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<v Speaker 1>Wings have one? Do you think? Do you think? Do

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<v Speaker 1>closest thing there you go. His isn't because of how

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<v Speaker 1>to fight everybody for some reason or another. Do the

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<v Speaker 1>Lions have somebody like that? Do they have the equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>of a James Harrison for example? Because James Harrison was

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<v Speaker 1>that guy for the Steelers. No, most of these types

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<v Speaker 1>of players in order for you to hate them, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to respect them. I believe you have to say

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<v Speaker 1>I would want that guy on my team, though. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>the most famous Bill Ambiert. Every fan base hated that

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<v Speaker 1>guy absolutely. Like Rick mchorne. They could say that because

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<v Speaker 1>he was strong. But most people understood where he was.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't think he was dirty. Where people, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think truly believed that Bill Ambier was dirty. Maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>of that has to do with taking down Larry Bird

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not exactly sure when that label was given to him,

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<v Speaker 1>but we know it is stuck with him his entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Marshant is similar to that, not because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he's dirty. It's just because he's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of an instigator and willing to chirp and he'll drop

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<v Speaker 1>the gloves too. But what Hockey did, what Canada did,

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<v Speaker 1>was they miked him up. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>miked up. They got him going into the Team Canada

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<v Speaker 1>dressing room after the game, walking to his stall and

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Connor McDavid and talking to Sidney Crosby and

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<v Speaker 1>a risky player. At the end, they're eighty seven, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was laughing a little bit. You know you've got

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, I'm sitting there watching I see in

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<v Speaker 1>the video, I'm like, oh my god, there's McKinnon, there's Crosby,

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<v Speaker 1>there's McDavid. I mean, think about that. You've got Sidney Crosby, who,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, has never lost a game in his

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<v Speaker 1>international competition life. Think about that. That's when you talk

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<v Speaker 1>when you talk about among the greatest of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said this the other day, he is simply

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<v Speaker 1>amazing but never gets nearly enough credit. I remember early

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<v Speaker 1>I said a statement that had people just blown away,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, Sidney Crosby is greater at his sport

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<v Speaker 1>This was early in their careers. That's not the case

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<v Speaker 1>and great at their sport. I used to say that

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<v Speaker 1>about Wayne Gretzky too, and people thought it was blasphemous

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<v Speaker 1>that he was better at his sport than Michael Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>was at his It's just really hard to dominate the

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<v Speaker 1>game of hockey, so it's really two different things. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of a tough to measure, right, But Sidney

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<v Speaker 1>Crosby early on in his career was that kind of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he was just simply amazing and his story

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<v Speaker 1>is a really good one that we don't necessarily have

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<v Speaker 1>to get into. But he's never lost a game, not

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<v Speaker 1>a series, but a game that's called leadership, that's called

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<v Speaker 1>high end stuff. And it's not like he's only been

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<v Speaker 1>in five he's been in a ton of them. The

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<v Speaker 1>microphone on Marshen in the locker room giving you that

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<v Speaker 1>feel is pretty awesome. It's that type of access that

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<v Speaker 1>you'd love to see more of and take those types

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<v Speaker 1>of moments that allows people to actually have a window

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<v Speaker 1>into the type of athletes and people that they truly are.