Speaker 1: All right, we continue on Fred Rogan Rodney Pete on
Speaker 1: AM five seventy LA Sports. We are giving away passes
Speaker 1: to the Petersen Automotive Museum.
Speaker 2: We will be doing that.
Speaker 1: This hour included four tickets to the museum, including the
Speaker 1: newly opened totally awesome exhibit Cars and Culture from the
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties. It is great, great, so we are
Speaker 1: going to be giving that away later on in the hour.
Speaker 1: Also in that colleennial stop buy. But now, let's bring
Speaker 1: on a man who always tells it exactly like it is,
Speaker 1: never pulls a punch, brutally honest when it comes to
Speaker 1: the angels. It's our buddy Sam Blum from the Athletic
Speaker 1: and Sam, how are you today?
Speaker 3: I appreciate that characterization to come good.
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, and you are really, really honest. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised you don't duck when you.
Speaker 2: Go down there.
Speaker 3: Everyone's nice.
Speaker 2: You gotta tell it like it is. I mean, only
Speaker 2: you can only respect someone who tells the truth, and
Speaker 2: that's good or bad. I like it, Sam.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Okay, trade deadline, are they going to do anything or
Speaker 1: sit on their hands like they normally do?
Speaker 3: They'll do something. It's to me, the question is really
Speaker 3: like what what's the extent, you know, like is this
Speaker 3: is this Okay, you know, you trade Moncata and Tyler
Speaker 3: Anderson and maybe Kenley Jansen and call it a day.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that the Angels hope to bring
Speaker 3: me bring Kenley Jansen back next year, which might make
Speaker 3: them think twice about sell you know, trading him this deadline.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think the question is just the extent
Speaker 3: that they actually sell, Like it was the same question
Speaker 3: last year, and they only traded away two relievers when
Speaker 3: I think they could have you know, gotten a lot more.
Speaker 3: And then also the year before that one, you know,
Speaker 3: they they did not trade shoe Otani when I think
Speaker 3: they would have been a franchise altering return they would
Speaker 3: have gotten back. So yeah, I'm guessing they'll do something.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not even rolling out the possibility that
Speaker 3: they'll you know, be buyers if they have a good
Speaker 3: week here. You know that this is the way they operate,
Speaker 3: like they they look they don't they look at the
Speaker 3: team with their fingers crossed and hope that it all
Speaker 3: works out. There's not really you know, a plan in place, ever,
Speaker 3: it feels like with them, so would they if they
Speaker 3: bought with a chocoy No. I think everyone around the
Speaker 3: league is praying that they sell because they have some
Speaker 3: players that other teams want. But you know, I don't
Speaker 3: know if the Angels have the you know, requisite understanding
Speaker 3: to understand this is the seller's market and they can
Speaker 3: actually put themselves in a position to be competitive, probably
Speaker 3: not next year, but the year after if they, you know,
Speaker 3: are aggressive at this deadline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, hey, Sam, you mentioned it, you know, a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago with Otani, is there still some
Speaker 2: feelings about regrets or whatever about them not doing anything
Speaker 2: with them? I know that the attitude was they were
Speaker 2: close and they were going to make a run for
Speaker 2: it and it didn't work out. But are there regrets
Speaker 2: that they didn't make that deal happen and get a
Speaker 2: boat load for him?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, regret is I don't know, Like
Speaker 3: you know, you don't.
Speaker 4: Really hear people with the Angels expressed.
Speaker 3: Like we should have done this differently. I mean not
Speaker 3: that's probably with any team, to be honest with you,
Speaker 3: but I think it's kind of self explanatory for it.
Speaker 4: You know that you can.
Speaker 3: See the results of them and probably would have gotten
Speaker 3: back if they traded Otani in that twenty twenty two
Speaker 3: deadline the year before he was going to become a
Speaker 3: free agent. You know, they could have gotten back essentially
Speaker 3: what the Nationals got for Monsta, which was you know,
Speaker 3: James Wood, Mackenzie Gore, c j Abrams, and then also
Speaker 3: on top of that probably Jackson Merrill.
Speaker 4: So they could have.
Speaker 3: Gotten back, you know, a team essentially that would have
Speaker 3: put them in position to be one of the best
Speaker 3: teams in the American League right now.
Speaker 4: But they didn't do that.
Speaker 3: So is there is there regrets? I don't know. I
Speaker 3: mean I think that, you know, maybe deep down there
Speaker 3: might be, but there's certainly not anything that's been expressed.
Speaker 3: I think that the team probably looks at this deadline
Speaker 3: differently than that one, even though I don't really think
Speaker 3: there's a huge difference. You know, you're looking at a
Speaker 3: similar situation of a team that's maybe like not completely
Speaker 3: out of like a miracle playoff run, but you're not
Speaker 3: really in position to make a and you know, you're
Speaker 3: you're kind of just trying to convince yourselves that you're
Speaker 3: in that position. Like I said in the article, I
Speaker 3: wrote today like, if the Angels were it's not impossible
Speaker 3: for them to make the playoffs this year. But I
Speaker 3: just don't think that it's smart for them to sit
Speaker 3: around and hope for that. I think you've got to
Speaker 3: look at your situation honestly. You've got to look at
Speaker 3: it kind of, you know, with really really really critical
Speaker 3: lens and say, do we really think we're one of
Speaker 3: the best teams in baseball this year, one of the
Speaker 3: teams that can make the postseason? And if they do,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I just don't think they're looking
Speaker 3: at it super honestly, but or at least not impartially.
Speaker 3: They need to, as any front office needs to, and
Speaker 3: I think it's important for players in front office to
Speaker 3: kind of look at this stuff differently. Even coaches look
Speaker 3: at it differently. I mean, everyone has to be honest
Speaker 3: with themselves. But I think players need to go out
Speaker 3: there and try and win and you know, try and
Speaker 3: make the playoffs no matter what the circumstances are. And
Speaker 3: I think they've done a good job of that. But
Speaker 3: the front office needs to step in and be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: we need to do what's in the best interest of
Speaker 3: this organization beyond twenty twenty group to beyond twenty twenty five,
Speaker 3: you know, and even beyond twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: Maybe so Perry Venazi as a year left on his deal.
Speaker 1: Would it be something if he walked into Artie. See
Speaker 1: I'm telling you how he's going to be able to
Speaker 1: secure his employment for years to come. Already, let's have
Speaker 1: a conversation, Let's go for it, let's blow it up,
Speaker 1: let's move some guys, let's build for the future.
Speaker 2: Give me three years.
Speaker 1: Well, Already's not going to fire room while he's building
Speaker 1: for the future. Do you think that's a solid plan
Speaker 1: for Perry.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't really think that's how the power dynamic works.
Speaker 3: Vice again, I just.
Speaker 4: You know, I just don't.
Speaker 3: I mean not listen, I'm not in those conversations between
Speaker 3: those two. I think Perry's been able to sustain this
Speaker 3: job by working with Laraty in a way that's more
Speaker 3: effective than maybe people, maybe some of his predecessors. But
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I don't think I
Speaker 3: think Already is gonna do He's going to be the final,
Speaker 3: you know, shot caller here and now if he doesn't
Speaker 3: want to sell. I don't think Perry could convince him otherwise.
Speaker 3: Then again, I also don't know how Perry looks at this.
Speaker 3: I don't you know, I do not know for certain
Speaker 3: that Perry is in agreement with me. You know it is.
Speaker 3: I listen at the end of the day, and I
Speaker 3: think I said this one was on your program maybe
Speaker 3: back early this season.
Speaker 2: Like I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't absolve Perry blame in this where they're at
Speaker 3: right now. I think everybody likes to do that. They
Speaker 3: like to, you know, put everything on already, and there's
Speaker 3: a lot that should be put on him because he
Speaker 3: may he like I said, like, you know, you look
Speaker 3: back at that to the deadline two years ago. Mean,
Speaker 3: that's an already decision, and maybe if Perry pulls pulls
Speaker 3: the trigger on that on that trade deadline, maybe he's
Speaker 3: done a much better job than we've all given him
Speaker 3: credit for so far. But I think that when you
Speaker 3: look at the job that's been done overall, like, I
Speaker 3: don't really think it's been that good. I mean, the
Speaker 3: team has been a little bit better this year, but
Speaker 3: I also look at it as they've you know, won
Speaker 3: a ton of one. Running the games they're run afferential
Speaker 3: is pretty bad. Uh, You know, they've they've been very healthy,
Speaker 3: so a lot of things have kind of broken in
Speaker 3: their favor. And there's still four games blow five hundred,
Speaker 3: so they've definitely improved. Some of their young players that
Speaker 3: Perry has acquired, to his credit, have really improved and
Speaker 3: been really solid big league players. But you know, I
Speaker 3: just he hasn't improven anything yet. He isn't he hasn't
Speaker 3: done anything really as shem yet and so until that happens,
Speaker 3: you know, you can't really sit here and say he's
Speaker 3: the guy who should you know, be calling the shots
Speaker 3: and is doing a great job in it. I just,
Speaker 3: you know, he's got to prove himself, and I think
Speaker 3: the way you do that is by building and by
Speaker 3: and by really you know, putting yourself in position to
Speaker 3: be good long term. I mean, you know, they can
Speaker 3: complain all they want about all the you know, the
Speaker 3: number thirty, number twenty nine prospect rankings they get by
Speaker 3: you know, the Athletic or ESPN or Baseball America and
Speaker 3: say that those aren't accurate. But at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, everybody's in agreement that their front that there
Speaker 3: are farm system is really really really weak. It has
Speaker 3: no depth, and you know, they've yet to show me
Speaker 3: or anyone else otherwise. So I just that's the way
Speaker 3: I look at it. They haven't really.
Speaker 4: Proven it yet.
Speaker 2: That's what we love about you said, He's brutally honest. Man,
Speaker 2: He's just straightforward. I love it. Thanks you fellas. Like
Speaker 2: it is, Perry ain't done nothing, he ain't done well.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to say nothing because Jack
Speaker 3: is a great player. Logan Ohapi, I think could be
Speaker 3: a great player, like some of these guys can be
Speaker 3: really good Nolan Shaanawall I think is you know, really
Speaker 3: out maybe outperform some expectations, but you know, getting getting
Speaker 3: a handful of good players is just not is not
Speaker 3: the job, right. That's if you're a basketball you know, GM.
Speaker 3: Maybe it is that you know, you need a you
Speaker 3: need a full roster, you need a pipeline, you need
Speaker 3: a farm system. You know, you can't just and I
Speaker 3: think that they just slide by the seat of their
Speaker 3: pants on everything. I mean, I I hated the way
Speaker 3: they brought up a lot of their pitching prospects to
Speaker 3: operate as as longman in the bullpen out of you know,
Speaker 3: pure need. I mean they used sam Ald Gary, a
Speaker 3: player they got in that deadline last year and had
Speaker 3: made there are forty two pitches in an inning when
Speaker 3: he was clearly not like able to get out of it,
Speaker 3: and it was just because they needed the inning cover
Speaker 3: that game. And it's just that's not how you treat
Speaker 3: your prospects. And then he sent them out immediately after
Speaker 3: the game. And I think it's a there election of
Speaker 3: duty by everybody involved in that decision, and I just, Uh,
Speaker 3: that's that's the that's where they lose me. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think that they've done a decent job in certain
Speaker 3: player acquisition decisions and drafting decisions, but big picture, I mean,
Speaker 3: they're not They're they're just not operating I think at
Speaker 3: in the right way at times.
Speaker 1: That being said Sam Blum, the athletic will is, Uh,
Speaker 1: how's wrong, Washington?
Speaker 2: What do we know about that? Sam?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know I've heard he's doing well. I've heard
Speaker 3: he I've heard he's back home. I don't want to
Speaker 3: say too much because I don't know fully, and also,
Speaker 3: you know, out of respect for his privacy. You know,
Speaker 3: it's it's you know, what's out there I think is
Speaker 3: kind of what he wants out there, and uh, it's
Speaker 3: a tough situation. I mean, I think for everybody involved,
Speaker 3: Like I've really grown to appreciate watch and I think
Speaker 3: that you know a lot of their a lot of
Speaker 3: that fight, a lot of the improvement that you did
Speaker 3: see this season, you know, is part of that culture
Speaker 3: that that he dealts within the within the coaching staff
Speaker 3: and the players. And I think that's a that's an
Speaker 3: you know, that's being missed a little bit, but ultimately,
Speaker 3: like he's started that foundation. I think it's been carried
Speaker 3: over a little bit and and yeah, it's just it's
Speaker 3: a scary situation. Uh, but I know that that he's
Speaker 3: doing well and you know, just recovering, and I guess
Speaker 3: at this point, you know, that's really all that matters,
Speaker 3: you know, him ever managing again, you know him can
Speaker 3: back to the Angels or whatever it might be, as
Speaker 3: a very secondary to him just getting you know, healthy
Speaker 3: again and stable and able to you know, just to
Speaker 3: live his life.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, we wish him well, for sure, Mike Trout,
Speaker 2: your opinion, he retires an angel or at some point
Speaker 2: do they try while he still got something nothing in
Speaker 2: the tank to move him.
Speaker 3: I apologize, I've I've I'm losing a signal, and I
Speaker 3: can I'm not an understanding. I apologize. I can't repeat
Speaker 3: the question. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: I said, can you hear me? Now? Can you hear it? Sam? Yes? Okay,
Speaker 2: I said, uh, Mike Trout, does he retire an angel
Speaker 2: or does he get dealt while he still got something
Speaker 2: in the It's.
Speaker 3: It's just not coming in. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: guys are coming back or maybe I apologize. It's just
Speaker 3: I'm not able to to understand any of the question.
Speaker 1: We're gonna let him run, Thanks Sam. And that is
Speaker 1: typical of Arty Moreno, there it is. He knew that
Speaker 1: we were talking about him, and he figured out of
Speaker 1: way that jam his signal. That is typical, Lady Morello.
Speaker 1: Doesn't surprise me one bit. His ears were burned, yea.
Speaker 1: And he said, if you think I'm gonna sit here
Speaker 1: and listen to that, yeah, you got another thing coming.
Speaker 2: Damn, damn, damn. I mean, so come on already.
Speaker 1: Really, although the Mike Trock question was a great one, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And again, first, who's gonna want it for that much money?
Speaker 2: That's really a question. Yeah, that's what it comes down to,
Speaker 2: because time is time is of the essence if you're
Speaker 2: going to do something right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dodgers are traveling. They've probably traveled to the East coast.
Speaker 1: I don't think Mookey's with him. I think Mook is
Speaker 1: gonna miss Friday's game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what Dave said. He's got a personal situation
Speaker 2: that he's dealing with. So we'll see, all right, So
Speaker 2: I don't think he's there. Two and four in the
Speaker 2: home stand and not pretty. Even the win yesterday not pretty,
Speaker 2: the bullpen not pretty. So there's only one way to go,
Speaker 2: and that's up. Really. I mean, they won yesterday somehow, someway,
Speaker 2: they're still in five place, and yet they're still in
Speaker 2: first place.
Speaker 1: They're still in first place, and that speaks volumes. That's
Speaker 1: the whole ball game, big time. I mean, that is
Speaker 1: the whole ball game. They're still in first place and
Speaker 1: that's remarkable. So, you know, help is on the way.
Speaker 1: We know that Trianon should be back soon, Blake Snell
Speaker 1: should be back soon. Rookie Sazaki may be throwing to
Speaker 1: live hitters next week in Arizona. So there is help
Speaker 1: that is on the way. Tanner Scott officially placed on
Speaker 1: the IL, which is necessary for Tanner because he's hurt
Speaker 1: and necessary for everybody that's watching him pitch this year,
Speaker 1: it is necessary that they put him on the INTERT
Speaker 1: list and try.
Speaker 2: To get right. Easy for it? It easy? Now? Am
Speaker 2: I talking out of school? Really?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: A little bit? Little? What you're wishing that somebody goes
Speaker 2: on the IL No, that's not good. No, I'm not wishing.
Speaker 2: And it's a good thing that he's on the i L.
Speaker 2: That's what you said. It's good for everybody that he's
Speaker 2: on the I L. Everybody needs a break, not the IL.
Speaker 2: Fred that that's not good. Don't say that. Take that back?
Speaker 2: You know it all right? Fine, you know what I'm saying, though,
Speaker 2: it's just good that he do. But take it back
Speaker 2: for our audience. Take it back. I take it back. Okay,
Speaker 2: I take it back.
Speaker 1: I don't want him on the I L. I don't
Speaker 1: want anybody hurt.
Speaker 2: But if there was ever a time to get a
Speaker 2: little refreshed, this would be it. You just couldn't leave it,
Speaker 2: could you? You just couldn't leave it. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Who's going to the museum? Four tickets? Rodney, ooh four?
Speaker 1: So two different people are four different people?
Speaker 2: One person? One person gets four tickets. Yep, we got
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Speaker 2: You got it. Congratulations. Have you ever been there? Fred?
Speaker 2: Have you ever been to Peterson? It's pretty cool, you
Speaker 2: know what.
Speaker 1: I've not been there. But we used to do is
Speaker 1: show called whip KNOTI whip ndick? Were the cars were
Speaker 1: the stars?
Speaker 2: Oh, whip nadik. You did a show called whip Nadick. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I produced. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, I didn't
Speaker 2: even know. I didn't even know you knew what a
Speaker 2: whip was. There's a lot you don't know about me,
Speaker 2: there it is. I guess, I guess because when Snoop
Speaker 2: called you the og, I guess I should have known
Speaker 2: that you knew what a whip was. That's exactly right.
Speaker 2: You should have known what a whip was. But whip
Speaker 2: is a name for a car. A lot of people
Speaker 2: don't know that, you know, I did it with a
Speaker 2: guy named Kip Epps. I had this idea for a
Speaker 2: car show when I was at NBC, and we did
Speaker 2: it in English and Spanish. It was the first time
Speaker 2: anybody tried that. So Whip Nadik was Southern California car
Speaker 2: culture where the cars were the stars. And we shot
Speaker 2: I would say, forty percent of the content for the show.
Speaker 2: We spread it out over what twenty six weeks at
Speaker 2: the Peterson Automotive Museum, and the stuff that came out
Speaker 2: of there was great. And all we did on the
Speaker 2: show Rodney Well, show cars and talk about him. That
Speaker 2: was the whole show in which people loved I'm sure
Speaker 2: because yeah, people are gay fascinated with cars obviously all
Speaker 2: ways and always will be. Yeah, people really liked it.
Speaker 2: And that's all we did. We talked about let's bring
Speaker 2: it back. Let's let's bring it back, Fred Whipknotic. Whipnotic
Speaker 2: was good. Let's bring it back, man, come on, you
Speaker 2: and I let's do it. Go on. We got to
Speaker 2: have somebody shoot the cars, shoot the cars. We got.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a bunch of you know now since
Speaker 2: I'm you know, since the time you shot that show,
Speaker 2: you know, the car explosion has happened. You know, there's
Speaker 2: so many dealerships and off brand dealerships and just private
Speaker 2: dealerships and people that do different things with cars and
Speaker 2: car clubs and all that kind of stuff is exploded.
Speaker 2: Whipnotic would be a hit today. Fred, We can think
Speaker 2: about bringing it back. Seriously. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now here's a question. There's two cars in front of you,
Speaker 1: a classic, a classic car or a brand new car.
Speaker 1: But the classic car is in perfect shape, the classic
Speaker 1: car or the brand new car.
Speaker 2: What car do you pick? Okay, it depends on what
Speaker 2: kind of classic car we're talking about. Is it a
Speaker 2: sixty four Impala that is in great shape? I tend
Speaker 2: to have a little favor to that. Or a deuce
Speaker 2: in a quarda you know back in the day, you
Speaker 2: get a deuce in the quarter that is in perfect shape,
Speaker 2: then I might I might do that El Dorado. I
Speaker 2: might want to do that, Fred. You know, old school
Speaker 2: Cadillac Man, some of those old nineteen fifty sixties cars
Speaker 2: are pretty impressive. But there is something to a you know,
Speaker 2: like a new car, a new you know, a new
Speaker 2: Escalade or a new something or a new range Rover.
Speaker 2: There's something to the new cars too. Don't get me
Speaker 2: wrong with the technology, that's the difference. Here's the question
Speaker 2: you're running. Yeah. On the left, we have a brand
Speaker 2: new Ford Bronco on the right, which they restored and
Speaker 2: brought it back. Yeah, I like the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Now, okay, that's a brand new Ford Bronco Richelle, just
Speaker 1: count one on the right. On the right, you have
Speaker 1: a restored Christine classic Bronco.
Speaker 2: What would you take if it's Bronco versus Bronco. I'm
Speaker 2: taking a new Bronco. You are going to be taking
Speaker 2: a new Bronco. Yeah, because I believe the technology in
Speaker 2: the Bronco with everything that bells and whistles, would be
Speaker 2: much better to do.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's bring on Ned Colletti and we'll
Speaker 1: ask that the same question.
Speaker 2: Ned.
Speaker 1: You have a brand new Ford Bronco on the left.
Speaker 1: On the right, you have a classic Bronco, but it
Speaker 1: has been restored to perfection.
Speaker 2: Which would you pick?
Speaker 4: Well, I heard Rodney's answer, but I would ask you
Speaker 4: to put a sixty nine Camaro in there.
Speaker 2: Ah, that's a different story, different car, different story. I'd
Speaker 2: take an old school Merrow over a new Camaro. Any
Speaker 2: day of the week.
Speaker 4: Hey, Amen, how you guys doing.
Speaker 2: We are great, We are great, ned, we are doing fantastic. Man,
Speaker 2: how you doing?
Speaker 4: I'm doing excellent. Oh where are you?
Speaker 2: Ned? Where are you?
Speaker 4: By the way, I'm selling London. I've been teaching here
Speaker 4: for Pepper nine for almost a month. I got one
Speaker 4: more week to go and then be back to the States.
Speaker 2: So you got one more week and then you're on break.
Speaker 2: So do you do you? So you're coming back? You're
Speaker 2: not going to stay over there and just kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, hang out in Europe for a little bit.
Speaker 4: Nah. I take the weekends and I do a little traveling.
Speaker 4: But I gotta get back. I got two cats back there.
Speaker 4: The cats are missing me.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, but they got nine lives, ned, they got
Speaker 2: nine hours, all right. Man.
Speaker 1: Now, when you sat in the chair, your teams were good.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I struggled.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers have.
Speaker 1: Looked just awful, even in winning, just awful. Now, it's
Speaker 1: a long one season and don't come out of it.
Speaker 1: But what do you do when you're sitting in the
Speaker 1: chair and the club is going through this?
Speaker 4: Well, you know you got the deadline coming, say, you
Speaker 4: got to be you know, you got to be wise
Speaker 4: with your choices. You can't. I'm sure Andrew will be.
Speaker 4: You know, it's you can never let a motion get
Speaker 4: in the middle of any decision you make, whether it's
Speaker 4: a negotiation or it's a trade deadline or whatever. So
Speaker 4: you got to see if there's a deal that can
Speaker 4: make you better. You know, nobody has really got enough
Speaker 4: to get through the end of July without trying to
Speaker 4: make your team better, even if it's a twenty sixth
Speaker 4: man in the roster. So you know you're always trying
Speaker 4: to do it. But just because you want to do
Speaker 4: it doesn't mean you're going to find somebody the other
Speaker 4: side that's going to help you out. And Andrew and
Speaker 4: the group has made tremendous deals in the last you know,
Speaker 4: ten eleven years, so you know people on the other
Speaker 4: side are probably a little bit aware of of how
Speaker 4: good they negotiate, and so it may be a little
Speaker 4: bit tougher, but you're always don't I don't care. If
Speaker 4: you've got a fifteen game lead, you haven't gotten to
Speaker 4: the playoffs yet, you haven't figured out how October is
Speaker 4: going to play. You're going to have to make a
Speaker 4: move and figure out how you make your team a
Speaker 4: little bit better or even more than a little bit.
Speaker 2: Better net, you know, given what Fred said, because the
Speaker 2: Dodgers are struggling on a lot of fronts, you know,
Speaker 2: the offensively, defensively, pitching wise has been scary of late.
Speaker 2: But yet you're still four and a half games up
Speaker 2: in the division. So does that factor into your decision
Speaker 2: making at the deadline, given knowing that you're going to
Speaker 2: have some of your horses coming back.
Speaker 4: Great question. You know some of their great acquisitions will
Speaker 4: be the guys coming off the il. When you look
Speaker 4: at the other teams and everybody's got injuries, and we've
Speaker 4: got players on the I L. But you look at
Speaker 4: the quality of the talent that they have on the
Speaker 4: I L, you know that's going to be that's going
Speaker 4: to be additions without giving up players. So that will
Speaker 4: fortify them, That will certainly help them. But again, when
Speaker 4: somebody hasn't pitched or played in the field or hit
Speaker 4: for a while, you know it's going to take them
Speaker 4: a while. And once somebody's been injured injured for a while,
Speaker 4: you don't know if it's chronic. You don't know if
Speaker 4: it's going to keep coming back. So you still, in
Speaker 4: my mind, you're still going to kind of guard against it.
Speaker 4: You know, they come back, they're what you expect. Okay,
Speaker 4: that's a bonus that'll help you. But in the meantime
Speaker 4: you almost have to think half and half life. You
Speaker 4: know what, they may not be back, or they may
Speaker 4: not be back to the level that we expect or
Speaker 4: the level that they've been at before. So how do
Speaker 4: we fortify it? Because once you get past this deadline,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's almost impossible to fortify and fill a need.
Speaker 4: It's not easy between now at the end of the month,
Speaker 4: but once you get to the month of August, it
Speaker 4: is really tough to fill a gap that you've got
Speaker 4: because somebody who is hurt isn't coming back, or isn't
Speaker 4: coming back to the same level, or somebody that is
Speaker 4: out for the rest of the year. You know, you've
Speaker 4: got to figure out now really a way to replace
Speaker 4: them to take you to the month of October.
Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what. That then answers the question
Speaker 2: we were kicking around earlier. Do you make a deal?
Speaker 2: According to you, yes, because you don't really know somebody's
Speaker 2: going to be.
Speaker 4: Back on healthy no, and you know, and you don't know,
Speaker 4: you know it takes. This is not like going to
Speaker 4: one of those big stores where you can just go
Speaker 4: down Aisle six and pick out a shortstop, or pick
Speaker 4: out a relief pitcher, or pick out whatever you need.
Speaker 4: It's not like that. People. You know, people know your
Speaker 4: people are paying attention throughout the game, so they know
Speaker 4: your strengths, they know your weaknesses, they know where your
Speaker 4: injuries have kind of dented dented your roster, and so
Speaker 4: you know most of them are going to hold out
Speaker 4: and make you pay not not not one hundred cents
Speaker 4: on a dollar, but maybe a dollar, maybe one hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty cents out of dollar to make you pay
Speaker 4: for it. So well, well, people can say, well, you know,
Speaker 4: they got to make a deal. They should do this,
Speaker 4: they should do that. You know that that's not even
Speaker 4: half of it. You've got galeries to considered, all sorts
Speaker 4: of things to consider. But you also have to find
Speaker 4: another team that is willing to do that, and that's
Speaker 4: not that's not easy to do. And we can all
Speaker 4: sit and say, well, they should do this, this guy's available. Well,
Speaker 4: who really knows who's available. Only the people in the
Speaker 4: chair knows who's available. And you know, the media can speculate,
Speaker 4: and we all speculate, and we all think, well they
Speaker 4: should go get this kind of go get that. Well
Speaker 4: that's fine in thought, but in reality that may or
Speaker 4: may not be reality. And I think that that you
Speaker 4: have to keep that in mind as you go through this,
Speaker 4: and you've got to make deals that are wise. And
Speaker 4: Andrew's done a great job with it and his staff,
Speaker 4: and but it's not an easy thing to maneuver. And
Speaker 4: in the in I'll see the olden days, you know,
Speaker 4: you could, you could take advantage. And not that I
Speaker 4: had the opportunity to do it because of ownership and
Speaker 4: things like that, but you could take advantage. And I've
Speaker 4: seen the Dodgers do it of teams that were in
Speaker 4: financial distress who would rather just move a good player
Speaker 4: because of the salary attached and maybe multi years or
Speaker 4: free agency, and they couldn't sign them to get some return.
Speaker 4: But that's you know, that's a little bit rarer today too,
Speaker 4: although you know there's still out there to some extent,
Speaker 4: but sometimes you could. You could, You could make a
Speaker 4: team make a deal because you could relieve them of
Speaker 4: the financial financial weight that they had on top of them.
Speaker 4: So there's all sorts of ways of looking at it.
Speaker 4: But I was always in the mood, hey, you know
Speaker 4: what we've got to add. I mean, I did it
Speaker 4: for nine years with the Dodgers, and I did it
Speaker 4: for eleven in San Francisco, and I think there was
Speaker 4: one year when I tried to Rafael for call to
Speaker 4: Saint Louis. It was one year that we were subtracting
Speaker 4: and not adding. So we were always in the mode, hey,
Speaker 4: how can we get a little bit better? Because you
Speaker 4: don't know what's coming, and you do know on your
Speaker 4: team who's who's a little bit injury finicky or who's
Speaker 4: not feeling great, and so they may be active. It
Speaker 4: just still got to you got to think about, well,
Speaker 4: if they're not active and another two and a half months,
Speaker 4: so Bolster, nine weeks, what are you gonna do. So
Speaker 4: you got to prepare for that now because now is
Speaker 4: the only time you can really do anything about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But that being said that what the Dodgers are
Speaker 2: facing is that they've got some guys that might be
Speaker 2: active in the next couple of weeks. And so you've
Speaker 2: got horses that you didn't have for the first half
Speaker 2: of the season coming back and Blake Snell, you got uh,
Speaker 2: you know, Blake Trining's coming back. You got some other
Speaker 2: guys coming back month. See, the injury is not as
Speaker 2: bad as as everybody thought initially. He's so he's coming back,
Speaker 2: and so is it a that's a that's a fine
Speaker 2: line of we're going to add, but yet we still
Speaker 2: got some horses coming that we already have on this roster.
Speaker 2: How do you deal with that? For instance, like there's
Speaker 2: there's been third basement thrown out there that the Dodgers
Speaker 2: are looking at McMahon from from from Colorado and some
Speaker 2: other guys. How do you deal with that? And and
Speaker 2: I guess no answer is right because you don't know.
Speaker 2: But when a guy is on the I l but
Speaker 2: he's coming back in a couple of weeks and the
Speaker 2: deadlines in a couple of weeks, what do you how
Speaker 2: do you decide and decipher through that?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's why he's sit in the chair,
Speaker 4: you know, because you know the decisions are not easy,
Speaker 4: and you know you have you really depend on so
Speaker 4: many people. You depend on your training staff, you depend
Speaker 4: on medical to really give you an accurate view. You
Speaker 4: know who your players are and you know who's you know.
Speaker 4: I would have conversations with guys who've been out for
Speaker 4: a while, this time here and said, so where are
Speaker 4: you really? I mean I would talk to medical I
Speaker 4: would talk to the doctors and they would give me
Speaker 4: their opinion. But I would also talk to the player.
Speaker 4: You know, it was my responsibility to really know the
Speaker 4: player and really know how they thought and if they
Speaker 4: were going to exaggerate or if they were going to
Speaker 4: sell themselves short or wherever they were going to be
Speaker 4: to make that decision because you can't make a decison.
Speaker 4: It's tough to make a decision if you have eighty
Speaker 4: percent of the information. If you have fifty percent of
Speaker 4: the information, it's even tougher or less. So this is
Speaker 4: this is you know, who sits in this chair? How
Speaker 4: do they make those decisions? I was. I was always
Speaker 4: in the in the vein of look, I can't go
Speaker 4: back when I get to August twentieth, I can't go
Speaker 4: back to July twentieth and we do and make a
Speaker 4: deal or get somebody. So if I thought there was
Speaker 4: somebody who could help our club, I have to do it,
Speaker 4: because you know what, if you've got talent, you'll never
Speaker 4: you're never gonna have too much talent. That has been
Speaker 4: great teams, but you know, you never have too much talent.
Speaker 4: So if you've got to maneuver the roster or let
Speaker 4: somebody else go that's at the bottom of your relief core,
Speaker 4: or you know, an extra start who turns out to
Speaker 4: be an extra starting picture, you know, you deal with it.
Speaker 4: That's what it is. Every day you wake up knowing
Speaker 4: you know you're gonna have you got five issues when
Speaker 4: you wake up in the morning, and you're gonna have
Speaker 4: five more that you don't even know about yet before
Speaker 4: you go to sleep again. But you've got to figure
Speaker 4: out how you do it.
Speaker 2: And I appreciate that. But here we kicked this around
Speaker 2: earlier and that and I know this happens, and it
Speaker 2: happens in football all the time, especially right before the
Speaker 2: last cuts and the season starts. But Fred suggested that
Speaker 2: at some point, like if if a guy is struggling
Speaker 2: and we're like Tanner Scott, who's struggling, right, do do?
Speaker 2: Does the club go to him and say, hey, you
Speaker 2: might have a little inflammation in your arm and uh
Speaker 2: and he says, no, I don't, And you say, well,
Speaker 2: we're telling you do, and we're gonna put you on
Speaker 2: the I l for a little bit to reset, just
Speaker 2: to reset.
Speaker 4: That happens, right, Oh, I don't think that's ever happened
Speaker 4: with any tim I was down in LA, But yeah,
Speaker 4: you know it might happen. It might happen along the way.
Speaker 4: Yeah sure, you know. I mean some players you can
Speaker 4: send down, but some players, as you just said, you know,
Speaker 4: you need a reset.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The best way to reset is to stop doing what
Speaker 4: you're doing, whether that's an IL or some other thing.
Speaker 4: You know, take a couple of weeks off, go rehab
Speaker 4: and you know, go out to the Central Valley and
Speaker 4: pitch a little bit, you know, get it together.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I don't know that you know that may happen.
Speaker 4: I would probably guess. Yeah, I thought that could happen
Speaker 4: sometimes someplace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I get it, I get it. Nett always
Speaker 2: always a pleasure, man, especially when you talk to us
Speaker 2: from across the pond. Brother. We we certainly appreciate that man.
Speaker 2: You always bring the knowledge from the Big Chair, Brother,
Speaker 2: and looking forward to you coming back. When you come back,
Speaker 2: we got to have we gotta have a lunch of dinner.
Speaker 4: Man, absolutely, And you know what, maybe was it. I'll
Speaker 4: come in the studio and.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Do it absolutely anytime, all right, Now take it out
Speaker 1: because our buddy ned COLLETTI well, a traumatizing moment occurred
Speaker 1: across the country. Uh, and we have to get into it.
Speaker 1: If you've not heard about it, we're going to share
Speaker 1: it with you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, we're back on a throwback Thursday riding
Speaker 2: pet fred Rogan, Let's go baby, Let's finish strong. Freddie, Well,
Speaker 2: this is troubling. It really is.
Speaker 1: If you have kids and you're from southern California, I'm
Speaker 1: betting at one point or another you took him to
Speaker 1: chuck e cheese.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking that.
Speaker 1: Probably happened mm hmm to we all know. The pizza
Speaker 1: is not great. But thank god they have alcohol there
Speaker 1: because that's the only way you can get through it.
Speaker 1: The kids running around, they play games, you've drink, they
Speaker 1: can win prizes and then Chucky comes around.
Speaker 6: I'll challenge you, by the way, on the fact that
Speaker 6: the pizza is not great. I think the pizza is
Speaker 6: actually yeah, I do.
Speaker 2: Really, Kevin, I always felt that way. I was dead
Speaker 2: motion by Kevin and frand you said this.
Speaker 6: I don't know why Chucky Cheese came up. I think
Speaker 6: Jonas might have been in and we talked about him
Speaker 6: being Chucky at one point. Even Kates came in and say.
Speaker 2: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait,
Speaker 2: Jonahs with Chucky at one point you didn't know that. No, yeah, Jonas, sorry.
Speaker 6: Good Yeah, Jonas Knock used to be Chucky at chuck
Speaker 6: e Cheese.
Speaker 2: Wow he was the rat yep.
Speaker 6: I think technically he's a mouse.
Speaker 2: But whatever.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay, okay, Oh no to me, didn't
Speaker 1: I say the pizza tastes like cardboard?
Speaker 2: You did.
Speaker 6: Kates was so upset he kicked in the door and said,
Speaker 6: what the hell is Fred talking about?
Speaker 2: I don't know me running in This is troubling.
Speaker 1: There's a Chucky Cheese apparently in Tallahassee, Florida, and everybody
Speaker 1: loves the big mouse rat Chucky. The cops run in.
Speaker 1: They walk up to Chucky. They put him in cups
Speaker 1: and they take him out. Oh no, oh no, Chucky
Speaker 1: was arrested as Chucky and they took.
Speaker 2: Him out and the Chucky costume. Yeah, they took him out.
Speaker 1: And what made it more troubling is once they got
Speaker 1: him outside, they had a little pot on him.
Speaker 2: Oh and you know, Chucky can't be doing the wa
Speaker 2: frong with that. How do you get through the day.
Speaker 2: It's Chucky without a little thumb something. It's Chucky. You
Speaker 2: cannot be smoking the weed. So that didn't help.
Speaker 1: Then they took him outside and they take off his
Speaker 1: head because they took him out with his head on.
Speaker 1: They took out his off his head. You told by
Speaker 1: at the birthday party in Almo. Yeah, well that was
Speaker 1: almost smoking. Almost took off his head and the kids scream. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they took him outside and then he took off his head
Speaker 1: and they realized, yeah, we didn't make a mistake. That's
Speaker 1: what we're looking for because you know what Chucky does.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, When Chucky's in chuck e Cheese, he
Speaker 1: looks for a credit card that might be left on
Speaker 1: the table, picks it up and he uses it. M
Speaker 1: So CHUCKI got arrested for using somebody's credit card for
Speaker 1: one hundred and five dollars.
Speaker 2: Run up one hundred and five bucks. Oh, he's a fraud.
Speaker 2: He takes he takes credit cards and uses it for
Speaker 2: his own own game.
Speaker 1: That's right, and you got come on, chucky. Maybe he
Speaker 1: was desperate, maybe he had a bad moment, maybe you know,
Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe he thought it was.
Speaker 2: His own credit card. He did it. He did it
Speaker 2: six months ago too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not like he's charging ten thousand dollars
Speaker 1: on the car.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but it was micro charges that up, fred,
Speaker 2: I'm serious. First times he did it, it was you know,
Speaker 2: they just caught the two times.
Speaker 1: I think there was a long California. I can't remember
Speaker 1: the exact number, and it maybe it's been changed. If
Speaker 1: you went into a store and stole less than a
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, it wasn't a big deal. It was like
Speaker 1: a misdemeanor.
Speaker 2: What Yeah, if it was less than a thousand dollars,
Speaker 2: it was a misdemeanor. Yeah, it's like over there was
Speaker 2: a felony.
Speaker 6: I think it was like nine hundred and fifty bucks.
Speaker 6: If I remember correctly, it was a pretty big deal.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of debate around that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could go in and start just grabbing stuff
Speaker 1: and walk out and it's aster mean, just give it
Speaker 1: back or whatever.
Speaker 6: Miss petty theft. Yeah, they just you know, what do.
Speaker 2: We do in the state.
Speaker 1: Somebody goes and steal stuff, that's all right, it probably
Speaker 1: needed it, you know, do something, have it.
Speaker 2: Don't even worry about it. Action. Yeah, yeah, unless you're
Speaker 2: on the store.
Speaker 6: Chucky just wants to buy some cheese, man, can Chucky
Speaker 6: just buy some cheeses?
Speaker 2: Inflation?
Speaker 6: Cheese is expensive these days?
Speaker 2: A right Chucky break?
Speaker 6: They have to arrested in front of the kids.
Speaker 2: The standards, the standards are lower now for Chucky. I
Speaker 2: guess so used to be. Yeah, it used to be
Speaker 2: a prestigious job to be Chucky.
Speaker 1: Now it's like they don't care who they get, you
Speaker 1: know what. And maybe the kids expected, maybe they're growing
Speaker 1: up in a different world. They expect to see somebody
Speaker 1: get arrested, and it just happened to be Chucky. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a gangster. We glorify the gangsters now and Chucky's
Speaker 1: a gangst.
Speaker 2: Chucky's a rat. He's a rat. So what do you expect?
Speaker 2: You know, He's not a cute puppy, you know. He's
Speaker 2: not a giraffe. He's not a cuddly a cuddly bear.
Speaker 2: He's Chucky, the rat mouse, whatever you want to call him.
Speaker 2: He's a borderline, he's a tweener. He's a rat. So
Speaker 2: you expect that out of Chucky.
Speaker 6: You know, if he was really a rat, he'd be like,
Speaker 6: it wasn't me, it was Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 2: He did it. What you're looking at me for? No,
Speaker 2: got the wrong one. The Lord, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: All right, good job today, Ronnie, thank you, great work,
Speaker 1: terrific work. Kevin really appreciate it. Good job that tomorrow
Speaker 1: we're only on for an hour because the Dodgers play
Speaker 1: the Red Sox, but we're on standby in cases a
Speaker 1: little rain in the Boston area to go longer. But
Speaker 1: as it seems right now, we're on for an hour tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Rodney will talk to you then let's do it.