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Speaker 1: Because this is the problem with like a lot of

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the text like that is that you you're reading it

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and you try and convey the information to somebody else,

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and unless you can tie it to something that's happening

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now in their life, they're unable to get it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, and Yaqui's speaking so people it seems

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he's esoteric, where he's actually talking about real life and

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what we should be, how how we should be processing

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things on a daily basis, how how a culture should

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should be forming, should should form, how it how it operates,

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how who's operating it, because it's always going to be

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a very very small group. But the when you try

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to relate that to people, especially from the metaphysical, but

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when you add the metaphysical to it, so many people

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are run away from Yaki because he he in ways

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that people just aren't used to hearing everybody. You know,

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that's one of the problems with our age politics. Our

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age of politics is go vote. If you can deport

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this amount of people, everything will be fine. If you

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can there's a certain group that's causing all these problems,

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and we can just get them to go to their

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country and leave our country alone, everything will be fine. No,

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that's that's not it at all. That's not it at all.

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You can hear all those people and you're still going

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to have the same problems you have. Unless you address

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high culture issues and you address metaphysical issues.

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Speaker 1: It starts.

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Speaker 2: I mean you literally have you have people talk about

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boomers and they're like, oh, boomers, you know, we just

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people will get over their Zionism and their their worship

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of Israel once the boomers are gone. Really you think that, huh,

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how's that going to happen? You don't think that. You

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don't think it's being passed down. You don't think that

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there is something that something could happen, something could happen

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that causes them to you know, some kind of attack,

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some kind of thing like oh, I don't know, something

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happened like nine to eleven where people put their guard

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put their guards down, you know, start calling people third

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world this again, because it's like, hey, wait a minute,

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there's this group out there that's really trying to destroy

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our enemies and are really trying to or at least

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weaken our enemies. And but you know, you're a third

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world this if you support them in doing that. I mean, really,

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people just people think this is simple. Isn't simple. Yes,

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it's one of the you know, tie it back into Yaki.

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because it's not simple and it's not for everyone.

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the whole point. And one thing I seem to keep

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stumbling on is the for a bunch of guys that really,

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you know, say they value greatness and individual achievement and

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hierarchy and aristocracy and all of these things, all of

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that shit goes out the window the moment that they

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start to get the feeling that they're not in it right, like, oh, hierarchy,

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I'm not at the top of this, or I don't

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understand this. Oh well I don't like it anymore. It's

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the same. It's the it's the crabs in the bucket

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thing that we seem to knee jerk our way into

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really quick, because as soon as this starts to happen,

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they immediately, like people immediately start inviting. And to your point,

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start getting called the third worldist. And the reason that

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that even is possible, whether it's third worldist or whether

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you know, oh you're just a trumper or basically I'm

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trying to think of all the little different type of infighty.

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It's actually crazy, like being off of Twitter for a

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couple of weeks and like the drama like is actually

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hard to remember. But the reason that that happens is

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because the same reason why even if you sent all

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those people back to their country, even if you send

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all the peoples, not just the ones that are causing

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the problems, not just those specific people, all right, you

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get them to go live in their place in the levant,

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but you get all the Indians to live in India,

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it isn't going to help you any for the same

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reason that as soon as people start disagreeing with you

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or in order of operations of things, you start attacking them.

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because you don't actually have a You can't position yourself,

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you can't worrient yourself in a culture right, you are

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not expressing you are you're not on a mission basically right,

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because the person that is possessed by a high culture

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right or is in the process of being possessed in

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the process of bringing that high culture about. That person

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has a purpose like his. There is no period of

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time where he does not know exactly what he is about. Right,

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it's not you know, the will like, it's not ideologies,

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it's ideals, and we don't have those. And this is

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why as soon as there's any tactical disagreement, any broad

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strategy disagreement, we are impossible to coalesce because none of

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us is being actually moved. Well, some of us are,

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and a whole bunch of other people that don't realize

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that they're not going to get it no matter what

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we do, are not really falling into place. Right, No

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one is willing to say, I don't know what the

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thing is, so maybe I just don't have an opinion

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on this one. We don't have. The left can paint

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you a picture of exactly what it looks like when

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they win. It won't be a good picture. There'll be

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slight variances, but we can't even do that. I ask

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one person like, oh, I'm a Nietzschean vitalist type whatever,

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and then oh, I'm a trad CAF monarchy, like these

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are just words. You're not moving with like there's no

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purpose behind you. If you believe those things, you're not

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moving to bring them about. You just think they sound cool.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that Yaqui says is he says

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a high culture, in the course of its fulfillment, acts

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in all directions of thought and action, and on every

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person within the area.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: He says the intensity of its action in a given

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direction depends on the culture's soul. Some of the cultures

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have been in passion have been passionately historical, like the Chinese,

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some completely ahistoric, like the Indian. Some have developed massive technics,

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like the Egyptian and our own. Some have ignored technics,

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like the classical and Mexican. The intensity of the impression

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of the culture on individuals is proportional to their receptivity

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of spiritual impressions. The individual of small soul and limited

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horizon lives for himself because he understands nothing. He doesn't

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understand anything else. To such a man, Western music is

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merely an alternate alternate up and down loud and soft.

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Philosophy is mere words. History is a collection of fairy tales,

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even the reality of which is not inwardly felt. Politics

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is the selfishness of the great military conscription of burden,

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which his lack of moral courage forces him to accept. Thus,

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even his individualism is a mere denial of anything higher,

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and not an affirming of his own soul the extraordinary man.

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The extraordinary man is the one who puts something else

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before his own life in security, even as he faced

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a firing squad, William Walker could could have saved his

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life by merely renouncing his claim to the President of Nicaragua.

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To the common man, this is insane. The common man

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is unjust, but not on principle. He is selfish, but

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is incapable of the imperative of Ibsen's exalted selfishness. He

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is a slave of his passions, but incapable of higher

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sexual love. For even that as an expression of culture,

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primitive man simply would not understand Western erotic if it

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were explained to him, this sublimation of passions into metaphysics.

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He lacks any sort of honor and will submit to

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any humiliation rather than revolt. It is always leader natures

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who revolts. He gabbles in the hope of winning, and

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if he loses, he whimpers. He would rather live on

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his knees than die on his feet. He accepts the

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loudest voice as the true one. He follows the leader

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of the moment, but only so far, and when the

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leader is eclipsed by a new one, he points out

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his record of opposition. In victory, he is a bully.

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as deed small. He likes to play, but has no sportsmanship,

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great thoughts and plans. He castigates as megalomania. Anyone who

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tries to pull him up in along the road of

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higher accomplishments he hates, and when the chicks offers, he

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crucifies them like Christ, burns them like Savonarala kicks his

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dead body body into the square in Milan. He is

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always laughing at the discomfiture of others, but he has

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no sense of humor and is equally incapable of true seriousness.

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He denounces to crime of passion, but eagerly reads the

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literature of such crimes. He herds in the street to

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see an accident and enjoys seeing another sustain the blows

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of life. He does not care if his countrymen are

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spilling their blood, as long as he is secure. He

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is everything mean and unheroic, but he lacks the mentality

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to be Iago or Richard the Third. He has no

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access to culture, and when he dares, he persecutes anyone

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who has it. Nothing delights him more than to see

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a great leader fall. He hated Metternick and Wellington, the

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symbols of tradition. He refused as Reichstock to send ex

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Chancellor Bismarck a birthday greeting. He makes up the constituency

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of all parliaments everywhere, and he invades all countsls of

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wards to advise prudence and caution. Leafs to which he

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committed become dangerous. He recants they were never his anyway.

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He is the inner weakness of every organism, the enemy

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of all greatness, the material of treason.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's good podcasting form to ask you

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to read that again because it's long. But if that's

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not important, Yeah, that's curia.

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Speaker 4: That's that is that that is as powerful as the

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very first time I read it, because this time I'm

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now assigning I can just see profile pictures.

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Speaker 1: In every fucking sentence, you know, and not all of them,

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but easily.

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Speaker 2: And easily, someone like myself. I can look at some

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of those and go, damn, I've been guilty of those. Yep, same, Yeah, Yeah,

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I mean there is there's a difference between celebrating your

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enemies being defeated and you know, Shodenfreud yep, yeah, what.

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Speaker 1: Did a I'm trying to remember who said it. Justice

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needs to be dispassionate or it ceased being ceases being justice.

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Speaker 2: Thomas says, they don't actually want to win. Yeah, Thomas's

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all the.

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Speaker 1: Supper go on.

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Speaker 2: Thomas says, all the time. If you have hate, if

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you have hate for people, you're just you're not in

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the game. It's not a that is not a that's

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not an emotion that people in high culture, people who

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you know, are of the culture bearing stratum of a

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culture culture bearing element should bring to the table, and

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we fall for it all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had that exact conversation, Like with leftoids that

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are the situation is starting to become so bad that

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even the aware leftoids and it seems to be the

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voids out of these because the men that are on

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the left aren't really possessing of any type of belief right,

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they're either there for safety, you know, so you know,

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they don't They want to be seen on the right

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side or you know, amongst the good guys fighting the

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good fight and being where the risk is not right.

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They want to have the safe beliefs. So like the

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men of the left, they're a they're not really men.

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But really, the only people that are on the left

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that I think are there because they believe in some

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of the tenants are women. The left is feminine in

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its nature, right, I mean d E says it the best,

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where Mom is always going to be left wing because

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if there is one piece of cake left, she will

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make sure that every single person gets the same size slice. Right,

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it is in her nature to have that empathy.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: That just eased that predisposition to sympathy.

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Speaker 2: Right, So I think I think that that that Charles

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Bideel said that women are romantics. Women are He said,

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men are practical or romantics pretend to be practical, and

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women are practical pretending to be romantics. I can't remember

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exactly what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's very true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an inverse, there's an inversion there.

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Speaker 1: But the so it's not the men that I've noticed

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it in of like the left, but the women of

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some of the women of the left are starting to

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realize that things are about to get bad. They can't

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quite put their finger on how or why. But they

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are more spiritually in tuned than us. They are, you know,

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vessels as why like every clairvoyant, every oracle, every suit sayer,

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they're always women. They're tuned in on a level that

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we're just not. So they're starting to ask questions. I've

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noticed this more and more some in my personal life

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and just also more broadly. If you look at like

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the ones that are if you look at the people

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that are kind of dipping their toe into like even

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like normally conservatism, it's all women, right, like the there's

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that's fucked up, but the men aren't because they are

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a lot of what Yaqui talked about, and we see

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the exact same thing on our side, right, these women,

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they they don't possess beliefs in the way we do.

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can't expect them to be the same or have the

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same responses. But what I think is the most explanatory

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is the men of the left and the fact that

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they're never going to They're never going How do I

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put this. Fuck damn it, I had it right on

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the tip of my tongue. Something something something. Half of

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our fucking guys are leftoids. Basically, basically, they don't feel anything, like,

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they're not being moved by feeling. Anybody that starts to

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take on any type of how did you? How did

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Yackey put it? There's not a leader amongst them. Oh shit,

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damn it.

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Speaker 5: Hey, hold up, Thomas, Thomas is here.

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Speaker 1: Oh thank you. I just thought Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 5: Guys, I am so fucking sorry.

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Speaker 1: Man, my kid, we already forgave you.

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Speaker 5: My kid has never done that. All right, I'll shut

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up about it. Thomas you there, brother, we already forgive you.

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Thomas is here. He just texted me.

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Speaker 1: Oh real quick, guys, did you did you any of

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you guys read The World in Flames?

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Speaker 5: Uh, not the whole book, but the essay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so like in the forward of the essay, right,

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I don't know who he's talking about, with the possibilities

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of Germany whatever, but he says this on in October

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forty six a quiet garden in Weisbaden, an unknown person

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whose writings and actions are only valued by his enemies,

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and that negatively composed a short monograph entitled The Possibilities

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of Germany, and this estimate can best begin by a

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short citation from this unpublished work. Eventually, not before fifteen years,

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the Anglo Saxon Jewish combine and the Russian Empire will

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wage the third of its series of World wars. Nineteen

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sixty was the first year in which the world political

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situation was ripe for a great war, but the exact

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moment of its outbreak is known to no one other

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than this or other than time, not even to any clairvoyant.

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It may take place this year, it may take place

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the year after that. Last possible time. Oh yeah, the

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last possible time is something about like I guess whoever

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this person is. The prediction is like nineteen seventy five whatever.

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But it goes on to basically talk about how this

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is going, this has to end in a third World War.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And.

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Speaker 1: I was reading that today and it kind of shook

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me quite a bit, considering like where we're at and

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the people that are escalating to the point that you

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know they are, And it just goes to another like, no,

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I don't think anybody's talking up w's about how fucking predicted.

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Yaki is like Yaqui's prediction, we're able to predict.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is why I want to talk about Yaqui story.

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That's exactly why I want to talk about Yaqui.

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Speaker 2: Stormy and I started jumping in on Yaki and I

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read that part out of Imperium. I'm sure you remember

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it where he's talking about the how a high culture,

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in the course of its fulfillment, goes in all directions,

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and the intensity of the impression of the culture on

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individuals is proportional to the receptivity of spiritual impressions. And

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then he goes through this whole list of how you know,

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the common men just can't be a part of it

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because he's unjust. But on principle he's he you know,

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he lacks any sort of honor and will submit to

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any humiliation rather than revolt. His talk as big as

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needs are small. He likes to play, but has no sportsmanship,

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great thoughts and plans, He castigates his megalomania, and he

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just goes down this whole list. So, I mean, I

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guess what we we wanted to talk about culture tonight.

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So can you jump off on that? Because that's like

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the articulate. He's it's a section that's called the articulation

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of culture, and yeah, how do you know, how do

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you recognize it?

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Speaker 3: Part of that's a reaction to imperium from mostly throughout

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nineteen like nineteen forty seven, pretty much throughout the year

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nineteen forty seven year old imperium. Okay, not only was

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that that's arguably, I mean in arguably actually like when

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when communism was added the like, in terms of it's

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in terms of the zeitgeist globally, so it seems like

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he's savaging the proletariat, and he kind of is. But

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a lot of that's a reaction to this idea that, oh,

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you know, class is this illusory thing. People are sociologically

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conditioned into these roles. There's not any biological or metaphysical

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aspects to it. You know, it's it's this totally malleable thing.

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And you know, even if you think that revolutionary revolutionary

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imperatives are destructive, obviously we've got to we've got to

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raise up the we gotta end the tramgy the commons

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by like raising up the proletariat, because they've got this

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boundless potential that was not recognizing. So it seems sort

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of like an angry savaging of the of the mentioned

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material of like the body politic in any in any

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given state. Yeah, it is, it's probably it probably seems

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mean spirited, but that's the context. But you know, the uh,

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the fat matter is he's right, and people are don't

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accept that, you know something I until the twentieth century,

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there were there were situations in Europe politically, you know,

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I can't remember, I can't remember talking about Gustav Mannerheim

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some weeks back. You know, Mannerheim didn't even speak Finnish, Okay,

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Like there was it's it's sometimes the ruling element was

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literally like a different ethnicity and sometimes almost a different

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race than the people they presided over. And like why

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why why was that nobody was rising up and and

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and and you know and and demanding that these people,

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you know, liberate them from from this this uh, this

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oppressive modality or what have you? I mean, like why

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is that? It's because you know, I mean, yeah, there's

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situations where there's you know, uh where like a genuine

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tyranny becomes untenable, you know, But that's a different thing.

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There's people being subjected to material deprivations or or punitive

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abuses that you know are fly in the face of

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reason and and and you know, even even slaves won't tolerate.

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But you know, the the lower orders are essentially the

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subjects of the historical process. They're not the know that

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they're they're not they're not animating it, they're not really

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participating in it, you know. And I think I think

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that that's an arguable you know, one of the one

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of the things, one of the things that separates civilization

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and savagery. Like savages don't really have culture, like they

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might have stratified sociological situation that they existed almost always

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they do. I mean, the only the only kind of

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truly like egalitarian uh cultures would be something like the

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Black Seminoles that's basically like a war band, like masquerading

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as is like a as like a nation who happened

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like I mean, and then you know the so uh yeah,

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I uh, I think I think that that's an arguable

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and the uh it's not a it's not it's if

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it was just it's kind of like intrinsic thing to

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like human psychology, you know, uh, there there wouldn't be

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that stratification between you know, not not even just high

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culture and savages, but like any culture at all. You know,

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like basically the emergence of the ability to bear culture.

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That's what raised man out of a you know, essentially

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a beastial mode of existence. You know, it's like, why

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does that happen? You know, it's the emergence of Ah,

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this culture varying element would seem to be intrinsic. The

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book that I wrote about the Bronze Age, it's interesting.

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I think it's called uh. It's called uh The Horse,

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the Wheel and Language or something.

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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, I have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a really good book. But he makes a

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point that, you know, the the Indo, like the the

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Indo European element, you know, they they weren't indigenous to

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the places they conquered. They came from which like the

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they came from the step. They were master equestrians, and

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they imposed this order that became protoan civilization on uh

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on Central Asia and Europe, and you know, the war

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the world island. If you allow the geopolitical UH nomenclature,

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you know this, and usually that's usually that's the case,

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Like usually cultures imposed from without, you know, so if

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it was this kind of spontaneous thing, if it was

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like universal grammar, you know, or the capacity to like

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make tools or something. If if it's just something that

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like just emerged, like well, there wouldn't there'd be kind

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of like a monoculture planetarily. There might be like different

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phases of development that people found themselves at, but you know,

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there wouldn't be this profound distinction between peoples and their

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modes of life. And you know, there wouldn't there There

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wouldn't be uh there, there wouldn't be people outside of

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the outside of the paradigm of civilization. It just be

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something that happened, like oh, eventually people developed this capacity

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for high culture and then you know, but that doesn't happen,

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you know. Plus two, it's just like and I realized

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I'm kind of rambling, so forgive me for that. But

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you know, like I when you look at look at

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the largest structure in the war in the world's about

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thirty five hundred years with the Great Pyramid of Giza,

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Like nothing else that came close. Okay, The amount of

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like human labor, like it's like human slave labor it

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took to build that thing is unbelievable. You know, like

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slavery is not just the ability to force people to

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do things by like literally cracking the whip on them,

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like people like internalize the paradigm otherwise they will otherwise

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like the otherwise history would just be like one ongoing slaverable,

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you know, like some successful, some not. But it isn't

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is it, you know, And it's not just everybody's brainwashed

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into believing that like their inferiors or something. That's not

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the way things work, you know. It's it's it's almost

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uh I don't I don't like information agent metaphors, but

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it's almost like at scale, different casts within a cultural organize,

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they're like running a program, you know, and it doesn't

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even occur to them to revolt against it, you know,

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it would be uh I remember I can't remember who

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it was. Somebody said that something like the Bolshevik Revolution

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or like the jacob and Revolution, or probably most most

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poignantly like that, what happened in China with the Cultural

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revolution and it cannibalizing you know, an entire you know,

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like you know, like probably like twenty percent of its

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own population. It's mostly the cultural organism, uh, like developing

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a kind of cancer you know, like attacking itself and

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just deteriorating into megacyitle anarchy. But that, but that's an outlier,

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and that usually comes from they usually was something like

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future shock or some kind of breakdown in the internal situation.

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We're whole classes of people end up starving or something,

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or you know, or there's some kind of punctuated natural

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disaster that radicalizes people. It's not just that there's not

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just inevitably at some point, you know, oh, there's there's

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a there's a massive slave revolt, and and the sociological

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structure just cannibalizes itself. It doesn't happen. It's like, why

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doesn't that happen? You know, like marxistsoud say that, like, well,

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it's because you know, the the uh, the psychological environment,

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Like people can't think outside that paradigm. It's like, yeah,

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but there's a universality to it that doesn't really bear

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that out, you know. So I mean, I think I

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think it kind of goes with that's saying, But it's

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also people don't people in America have a and to

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a lesser degree, I think probably in Russia, although I

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haven't been to Russia, so I can't say with certainty.

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They have a difficult time with this because they there's

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two things going on. There's there's there's the hyper modernity

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and the conditions they're in in America. But America is

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also an incomplete culture without a medieval origin. So the

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kind of prime symbols that would sort of tie you,

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like the past to the present, you don't see that

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as much. It's there if you're if you don't what

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to look for, and but especially people who you know,

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are are kind of rootless anyway, they don't like detect

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these things because they're not insinuated into into social conditions

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where there's a there there's vestiges of the past and

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and informative events all around them, you know. So I

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think people have this idea that the conditions they live

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in here are we were just kind of spontaneously devised

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or something, or we're just like you know, the results

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of like nature's bounty and you know, the the rare

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industriousness of early Americans or something. And don't gonna be wrong,

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they had that obviously had played a part in it,

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but it's not the whole story. So I mean, I

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00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,519
think it's a it's it's inarguable and this stuff has

471
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:32,200
a mysterious origin at the end of the day. You know,

472
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,400
that's one of the reasons why the liberal perspective capital

473
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,480
l I mean, and you know, the enlightened perspective fails.

474
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:41,599
Like this idea that there was some sort of like

475
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:48,720
rationally devised process of civilization that was consciously implemented like that.

476
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:55,839
That's that's ridiculous. You know, there's a mysterious quality to uh,

477
00:33:56,359 --> 00:33:59,799
to the political order is they are all like anthrop

478
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,200
logical things, like this idea that one day this's just

479
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:09,960
happened because you know, it's a product demand's intrinsic capacity

480
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:15,119
to reason. That doesn't make any sense. You know that

481
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:19,519
that's not all things work.

482
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 2: Do you think that the one of the reasons why

483
00:34:24,039 --> 00:34:28,519
when you talk like this and people read Yaki and

484
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,039
they read about a high culture that they may reject

485
00:34:33,039 --> 00:34:35,760
it out of hand is because they don't see themselves

486
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,599
as being a part of it. And yeah, because I

487
00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:41,760
think about the time that Yaqui wrote this, and it

488
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:48,400
almost seems like writing this, I'm gonna this may be

489
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,079
a terrible metaphor for it, but like it's almost like evangelism,

490
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,119
Like he's he's putting this message out there and he's

491
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:00,840
trying to figure out who's going to accept who's going

492
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,000
to embrace it at a time when culture has been

493
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:10,400
torn to pieces and there's basically nothing, there's nothing left.

494
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,760
So he's putting this message out there and he's like, Okay,

495
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:18,119
who accepts this, who has this? Where's the culture bearing

496
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:22,039
element now so that we can start over again. It

497
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:24,320
almost seems like he does that. But then you know,

498
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,559
people hearing this, listening to this and listening to us

499
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:30,000
talk about this, they're like, well, this just isn't me,

500
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,840
so why would I want you know, I rejected out

501
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,199
of hand.

502
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:43,199
Speaker 3: Specifically, he was writing for a European audience, and the uh,

503
00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:51,199
the political situation was very unstable, you know. The and

504
00:35:51,639 --> 00:35:55,079
what became the East Germany, which is just then like

505
00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:58,079
as internal being written, was just then like ossifying into

506
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:01,400
the DDR. You know, it was it was literally the

507
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,880
Eastern occupation zone. You know that the Soviets, they there's

508
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,480
a cadre of people like will hump Pike and Ernst

509
00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:18,719
Volver and Eric Milk and Honeker, a lot many of

510
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:27,320
whom had fled to the Soviet Union under the Reich government,

511
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,599
you know, so they had a reliable cadre. But the

512
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,199
body politique in the eastern occupation zone was what was

513
00:36:38,199 --> 00:36:42,119
was very resistant. So they were imposing their system quite

514
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:49,039
literally at gunpoint in the west. You know it, Uh

515
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,960
it wasn't quite as it was, it wasn't quite as

516
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:58,960
heavy handed, but it was it was still very brutal,

517
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:07,800
and early on, especially the legitimacy of the occupation regime,

518
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,079
a lot of it derived from, you know, fear of

519
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:15,199
the Soviet Union and the Cold War paradig I mean,

520
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,159
I argue that almost entirely, that's what it derived from.

521
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:26,760
And uh, Europe like devastated as Europe was, you know,

522
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:35,599
the there was there was the potential really monkey wrench

523
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:40,159
the designs of the Americans and the Soviet Union, and

524
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:47,159
there was there was a radical element that very much

525
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:53,800
realized that and was looking forward. And that's why Yaki

526
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,360
considered it so imperative, you know, alie with the Soviet

527
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,519
Union contra America. So that's what we was writing for,

528
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:09,800
and you know, there mostly had similar thoughts. So obviously

529
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,079
he felt he was at loggerheads of the Jackey and

530
00:38:14,159 --> 00:38:24,360
the issue of the Cold War. But you know that

531
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,880
that's that's the element that he was h that that

532
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,400
he was addressing and that that was his singular focus.

533
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,880
Like what Yaga's view of the American situation was is

534
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:39,480
is an open ended question, you know. He he he

535
00:38:39,519 --> 00:38:47,480
wrote a couple of speeches from McCarthy, Joseph McCarthy. This

536
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:51,920
has in particular when McCarthy was on a terror about

537
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:58,960
the treatment of Vermont and SS veterans and things, you know,

538
00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:04,159
and uh, the Carthy's view was, you know, obviously Germany

539
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:10,480
is essential to is the essential bulwark against the Soviets,

540
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,360
and what was you know, and what by that time

541
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:18,119
was warsaw packed. Yaki was coming from a different place

542
00:39:18,159 --> 00:39:21,679
than McCarthy was, but that was the main subject of

543
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,639
the species he wrote from McCarthy. But other than that,

544
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,320
I mean, Yaki wasn't really writing for an American audience.

545
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:36,800
The stuff that his allies in the Old Resistance, people

546
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:44,719
like Metal, people like George Sylvester Viereck, the guys like

547
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:50,880
Connie McGinley, you know, they they were the minority faction

548
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:56,519
and the Old Resistance who were pro Soviet and that

549
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,880
was you know, they they were they were kind of

550
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:11,800
running in a insurgent campaign on on within within that ideological subculture,

551
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,039
so that's important to consider. I mean that that's what

552
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:19,199
he was writing for. It's also too there is something

553
00:40:21,679 --> 00:40:26,639
he was a he Gailien obviously, you know, and he

554
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:34,719
was a national socialist, so he viewed, uh, he he

555
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,000
viewed kind of like new European man as in the

556
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,199
way that younger kind of did as like neither master

557
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,760
nor a slave was kind of like the self contained individual,

558
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:52,840
and that the cast paradigm in the traditional sense didn't

559
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,960
really matter anymore, you know, along to historical and technological variables.

560
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,079
I mean that's kind of like a different question, but

561
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:09,960
you know, generally, uh, what he writes about where when

562
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,199
he like the everything in Imperium is tailored really for

563
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:18,280
a European audience, and specifically you know, the people situated

564
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:24,960
in in in in in ki uh and and what

565
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:31,079
was the be key battlespaces ideologically and and and and

566
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:33,800
potentially actually.

567
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,679
Speaker 5: Okay, there's a lot here. So first, uh, to go

568
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,199
way back to the beginning of what Thomas was saying.

569
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:44,639
We touched on Yaqui's pension for saying, and this comes

570
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:48,480
from Spangler that certain people have race and certain people

571
00:41:48,559 --> 00:41:52,960
do not have race. So the lower orders, as we understand,

572
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,199
you know, the cast or the hierarchical stratified social system

573
00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:03,760
informal or formal, the lower orders don't have race and

574
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,559
the higher orders do. Right, So you were talking about

575
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:10,519
like the slaves, and you know, we don't have a history.

576
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:13,239
The world history is not a world history of slave refaults?

577
00:42:14,039 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 3: Are you?

578
00:42:14,559 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 5: Were you saying that because because of what Yaki says

579
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,360
about people who have race and don't have race. So,

580
00:42:21,079 --> 00:42:23,000
for example, right from the text, I just want to

581
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,920
give one example, right from the text, he talks about

582
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,000
how people who don't have racey if they're in a

583
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:33,039
situation in which they'll lose their lives, they will only

584
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:37,679
lose their lives for themselves, their only self sacrifices for themselves,

585
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:41,800
whereas somebody who has race will sacrifice themselves for something higher.

586
00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:46,280
They'll sacrifice themselves for the future. They'll sacrifice themselves for

587
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,760
the culture and for the future of their nation. And

588
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,800
I even remember he says that like a martyr is

589
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,079
convinced that he possesses the truth, a warrior is convinced

590
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,440
that he the honor that he feel also is so

591
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,920
important that helped die for it. And this is somebody

592
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,679
who has race and someone who won't put themselves in

593
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:11,320
that situation or who run away doesn't have race. And

594
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,800
I think this kind of gets to what you're talking

595
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,719
about how these things sort of sift themselves out informally,

596
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:18,880
there's like a mysterious origin to the way this all

597
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:19,800
sorts itself out.

598
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's also it's part part of a two conceptual horizon.

599
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:33,800
You know, if you're somebody like somebody who's part of

600
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,639
the culture bearing element, they're not just a standard bearer

601
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:44,199
of the of the cultural organism like ontologically like they

602
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:53,400
view their existence. They're kind of discreet conscious existence as

603
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,599
like sort of a discrete sort of cellular aspect of

604
00:43:57,639 --> 00:44:06,719
a chain of being, you know. And that's why, uh,

605
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,320
you know, you get that. That's why traditate royals and

606
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:19,599
in high culture is worthy of the name. You know,

607
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:27,360
they're they're basically oriented towards generational projects, you know, unless

608
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,960
there's unless they haven't to be born in conditions whereby

609
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,440
you know, their charge with seeing the the nation through

610
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,400
its total war or something. You know, generally, what's on

611
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:48,159
their mind are historical imperatives that began centuries before they

612
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:52,079
were bored and will endure centuries after they're dead, you know,

613
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,360
And that's that's the way that that's a that's that's

614
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:05,559
an existential and a nontological phenomenon, you know. And people

615
00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:09,320
who into their station don't think like that because they've

616
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,920
got no practical reason too. But also like aren't cable

617
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,239
of thinking in those terms, you know. I mean that's

618
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:23,000
the that's that that that's an important distinction. And then

619
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:24,760
that's one of the ways you can tell that most

620
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,679
people are natural slaves man. I mean, like they like,

621
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,400
look at these fools on either side of the kind

622
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:41,599
of contrived political divide in this country. You know, they've

623
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:44,800
got this idea that after they themselves die, like nothing

624
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,159
exists or like post any significance. It's the it's the

625
00:45:49,199 --> 00:45:53,280
mentality of a rodent or something, you know, Like I,

626
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,920
when I die, I can't eat cheese anymore. So if

627
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,159
I can't eat a piece of cheese, what does it matter?

628
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,360
You know, like because I don't.

629
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's there's a French quote that's attributed to a

630
00:46:04,519 --> 00:46:08,719
French king that Yaqui includes in here after me the flood,

631
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,119
and I guess the context was the king was asked,

632
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,599
you know, what's gonna happen after you die. And it's

633
00:46:14,599 --> 00:46:16,760
basically him saying, I don't give a shit. The flood

634
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,519
can come and take everything away for all I care.

635
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, no exactly. And that's you know, and it's not

636
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,880
it's not just some it's not just some moral or

637
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:32,599
ethical issue. That's part of it, you know, absolutely, but

638
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,440
it's it's really like ontological like people aren't you know

639
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,480
that that's one of the that's the difference between you know,

640
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:48,000
higher man and uh and slaves in the Aristotelian sense.

641
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,880
But also to be clear, like Yaqui was not at

642
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,800
all some like reactionary or some royalist or so even

643
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,159
some guy like Maras who like was like, oh we

644
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,679
got to go back to you know, the the aristocratic order.

645
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:02,559
You know, he was a national socialist. He was saying that,

646
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:08,440
you know, like like new European man is he's he's

647
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,880
like he's like what young are described in their arbiter.

648
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,079
He's you know, he's or in on pain. You know,

649
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:17,760
he's Uh, he's neither a master or a slave. He's

650
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,199
he's he's a self contained individual. You know, he's a

651
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:29,039
he's like a worker, yaleman, racial warrior who uh is uh,

652
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:37,079
you know at at the same time the you know,

653
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:42,320
the culture bearing element. But you know, he's he's he's

654
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:51,000
also like literally the vanguard yeomanry, you know, and that's uh,

655
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,840
that's the national socialist that that's that's their historical mission

656
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:04,679
in terms of the internal political situation, you know, anthropologically

657
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:10,039
and sociologically. Is it cultivate you know that you know,

658
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:14,840
kind of new historical man who's who can't be conventionally

659
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:20,880
understood within the cast paradigm, you know, because he partakes

660
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,159
of of of ask you know, the the noble aspects

661
00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:28,519
of all but he's he's at the same time like

662
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:35,760
neither or none of those things, and in archetypal or

663
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,400
essential capacities.

664
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: What Thomas said is kind of borne out in Yaqui's

665
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:47,719
essay about the American all right, it was the destiny

666
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:53,800
of America. Yeah, but how he described how he describes

667
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,840
the American himself. But yes, yeah, it is the destiny

668
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,079
of America. What is it nineteen Well that's the title

669
00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:06,639
of the anyway. Anyways, it was the individual imperialism of

670
00:49:06,679 --> 00:49:13,679
the frontiersman that actually opened individual imperialism of the frontiersmen

671
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:18,119
that actually opened up and conquered the North American continent daily,

672
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,519
he was surmounted by a thousand dangers. He lived in

673
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:24,960
the face of death. This intrepid type, who was at

674
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:31,960
once warrior, explorer, minister, doctor, judge, and settler, advanced until

675
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:36,079
he reached this specific ocean and then looked onwards towards

676
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:38,880
Alaska and the Western Islands.

677
00:49:41,519 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 5: This is Yaki's got a whole section in Imperium on America,

678
00:49:45,519 --> 00:49:49,519
and he elaborates on this for like either one long

679
00:49:49,639 --> 00:49:53,920
chapter several chapters I can't remember, but he talks about

680
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,840
how that spirit of America and those men, those men

681
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,760
were driven by the same Faustian spirit that drove the

682
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,639
men who created European culture. So when Thomas comes back,

683
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:12,800
I want to talk about this because America is a colony, right,

684
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,360
so it's not its own culture. It didn't grow up

685
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,199
with its own ethnogenesis America.

686
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: He says that something came out of it, out of

687
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,639
them due to basically the savagery, and out of those

688
00:50:25,639 --> 00:50:29,880
colonials was bred a new man, the minuteman, these American farmers.

689
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, which is which is awesome. Yes, yes, he talks

690
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:35,480
about that a lot. That's such a good essay, but

691
00:50:35,519 --> 00:50:39,800
it but nevertheless, it was I was just going to say, nevertheless,

692
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,679
it was ethnogenesis of a new culture. It was a

693
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:50,480
continuation of European culture that was the same animating spirit

694
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:55,199
that sort of morphed into its own different thing. But

695
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,880
it wasn't. It wasn't an ethnogenesis, is all I'm saying.

696
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:03,559
And now you know that spirit is gone and or

697
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:05,639
it's it's morphed into something different.

698
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: And I think Thomas is gonna have something to say

699
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:14,559
to contradict that, But I want to ask, Yeah, he

700
00:51:14,639 --> 00:51:17,159
and I have talked about, well, not about it being gone,

701
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:19,719
but about the fact that there actually was a high

702
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,079
culture in the United States.

703
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there definitely was. Do you think there was?

704
00:51:26,519 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: Do you?

705
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, no, no, there absolutely was for sure.

706
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. As somebody who like uh, you know, spends all

707
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,119
his time reading, reading and talking about the Robber Barons,

708
00:51:39,159 --> 00:51:43,679
I can definitely tell you the culture even yeah, particularly

709
00:51:43,679 --> 00:51:47,800
in the I was in the Aristocratic Ideals, right, So

710
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,159
the I talked about it briefly in the in the

711
00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:52,480
Robber Barons series, and I give a lot of examples,

712
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,599
but this came up in a conversation with a friend

713
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:59,159
from the UK. Right when she's she's talking about the

714
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:06,280
kind of this sorry dejected state of British Man now

715
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:10,400
and like what the British Man is like now and

716
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,840
basically how backbiting and really it's not just like a

717
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,400
feminine But the best way that actually I've ever heard it,

718
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,679
this the best way I can encapsulate what she was

719
00:52:21,679 --> 00:52:24,320
trying to say, is what Yaqui was trying. Was Yaqui

720
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,519
was saying about like the the low man, about how

721
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:32,480
they rejoice in like they'll you know, watch a car accident,

722
00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:38,119
like they take joy and other suffering. Right, but I

723
00:52:38,159 --> 00:52:41,039
was trying I was explained to her that the values

724
00:52:41,039 --> 00:52:46,599
of the aristocracy of England they died out in Europe

725
00:52:46,639 --> 00:52:49,880
in roughly out the sixteen hundreds, the only like they

726
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,880
were continued in America by America's elite. Like these men

727
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,880
if you read a Rockefeller, if you read Morgan, you

728
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,320
read Ford, like they had nothing to like, They had

729
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,639
nothing to index their position in society to like they

730
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,920
they didn't they didn't have any points of reference, right,

731
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,880
So what they went and looked, what they were constantly

732
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:16,199
looking back on was like was stories and memoirs of

733
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,639
the British aristocracy in its glory days, right and That's

734
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:23,920
what they were basically using as a rubric to basically

735
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,239
set the tones of their life, how they interacted with

736
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,360
the people around them, what duties they had to the

737
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,519
people that worked for them, if they one of the

738
00:53:31,519 --> 00:53:33,960
men that worked in their service, Like the guy that

739
00:53:34,039 --> 00:53:38,119
ended up running JP Morgan, right after JP Morgan, after

740
00:53:38,199 --> 00:53:44,159
John Pierpont Morgan, and after his son Jack was some

741
00:53:44,519 --> 00:53:47,239
was the son of one of the guys that worked

742
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:53,239
on Morgan's cars, right who died like unexpectedly, right, And

743
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,480
because the guy was in the gentleman, the mechanic was

744
00:53:56,519 --> 00:54:02,119
in Pierpont's service, it was his dude right to take that,

745
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:07,480
you young man in who's now orphaned. Because this man's

746
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:11,960
father was in his service, it was his duty to

747
00:54:12,119 --> 00:54:15,360
raise that person like it was his son. He got

748
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,199
sent to the exact same schools that his son Jack did.

749
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,599
He got the exact same doors opened and the exact

750
00:54:22,599 --> 00:54:26,119
same opportunities at JP Morgan. The guy's name is Thomas Lamont.

751
00:54:26,159 --> 00:54:30,719
He ran the bank from like nineteen fifty or sorry,

752
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,440
nineteen forty onwards to like the eighties. This was a

753
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,800
you know, an orphan son of a guy that worked

754
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,159
for him. We don't see any of that anymore. But

755
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:41,760
that died out, I.

756
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,559
Speaker 3: Said to Washington for Hamilton, because Washington had no son

757
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:45,079
of his own.

758
00:54:46,039 --> 00:54:50,519
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, exactly exactly, And we didn't see that in

759
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:52,800
the you know, in the British Isles anymore. By then

760
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:59,079
it was all you know, trying to think of a

761
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:05,000
word that's not over anyways. Yeah, the the the disease

762
00:55:05,039 --> 00:55:10,599
that America inherited was running rampant in the UK beforehand.

763
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,159
The people that.

764
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 5: Were all so we were talking about America coming into

765
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:23,360
its own as a culture, and Stormy read a passage

766
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,559
from the Destiny of America, the essay about the the

767
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:32,920
Faustian spirit kind of like pushing through the founders of America,

768
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,239
not not just the founding fathers, but like the pioneers

769
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,480
and the frontiersmen that they were. They were driven by

770
00:55:37,519 --> 00:55:40,039
the same spirit that that drove the people who created

771
00:55:40,199 --> 00:55:47,960
culture in Europe. But so so last time, Thomas I

772
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,840
asked you if you thought America or if you thought

773
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:55,400
Yaqui thought America was the continuation of the Faustian and

774
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,960
you said no, But Yaqui kind of accounts for that

775
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,519
in a myriad of ways. One of them of course

776
00:56:02,599 --> 00:56:05,920
being the Revolution of nineteen thirty three. Where what I

777
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,960
was trying to come to what I was saying before,

778
00:56:08,039 --> 00:56:10,920
is that America now post war America, or at least

779
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,679
post nineteen thirty three America was fundamentally changed from the

780
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:21,559
America of you know, pre Revolutionary War Revolutionary War America.

781
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 3: So what's also the war was when the states changed

782
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,280
things too, Like they don't I don't, you know, I

783
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:35,679
mean that the the Faucian element if you want to

784
00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:42,159
in in pure terms of the Confederacy, you know, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

785
00:56:42,199 --> 00:56:43,039
they can't be denied.

786
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 5: But he actually says that the Revolution of nineteen thirty

787
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,760
three and then before that was the Civil War. It

788
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,920
was like several republics, American republics, right, So yeah.

789
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: He says, actually the Civil War brought about the sub American.

790
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,920
He rolls like liberals and egalitarians in as. So I

791
00:57:04,199 --> 00:57:06,880
am assuming he did think some ethnic genesis took place,

792
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,199
or use the term sub American means means, you know,

793
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,239
it's kind of nonsensical unless you look at it in

794
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,039
those terms.

795
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 5: Well, I think he's calling the North.

796
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:20,519
Speaker 1: In general.

797
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,079
Speaker 3: I mean it's a historical phenomenon. I mean, like it

798
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:35,679
and you know, after after, after the this kind of

799
00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:39,800
monoculture was imposed, which is the whole point of reconstruction.

800
00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:49,360
You know, there are that uh, the you know that

801
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:56,280
that entire historical enterprise was was derailed and essentially it

802
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,639
ceased to exist. I mean that's what That's why it's asked,

803
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,519
I mean, last nine for all kinds of reasons for

804
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,199
people to talk in the twentyeth century about the West,

805
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,280
like it's this thing that still exists, you know when

806
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:11,880
I mean the Second World War obviously was you know

807
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,639
that the West went down at Stalingrad. But like this

808
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,880
idea that America is this like legacy of Europe and

809
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:24,440
it's somehow like fulfilling it's historical mission. Like that's ridiculous,

810
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,239
you know, like not only is they grossly at odds

811
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:40,679
with you know, with historical realities, but New Dealer America

812
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:44,960
literally waged like a genocidal war of annihilation against Europe.

813
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:51,079
Like I mean, like, I don't understand how this tracks

814
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:56,039
in people's minds, but I guess it's because they you know,

815
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:03,679
they they simply lack a historical education. But no, that's

816
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:10,679
why Jacky, like Adolf Hitler made the point that America

817
00:59:11,199 --> 00:59:13,639
had more in common with the then Soviet Union and

818
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,280
vice versa than like either did with Europe or any

819
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:24,320
or any other extent or historical cultural form. America became

820
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:29,719
an ideologically driven enterprise and it remains. I mean that

821
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:30,800
that remains to the day.

822
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:31,119
Speaker 2: You know.

823
00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:38,239
Speaker 3: That's why the these goofballs like heg Set, I mean,

824
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,960
he's I mean, Hexts was a fucking idiot. It's like

825
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,840
he's he's a cornball, but he's also uh, there's also

826
00:59:46,039 --> 00:59:49,239
like a profound ignorance to people like that. But he's

827
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,199
he's an exemplar of like what passes for the American right.

828
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:56,079
He's always going around talking about these these imaginary Jewish

829
00:59:56,079 --> 00:59:59,159
strategic threats, and just today he was talking about communists,

830
00:59:59,719 --> 01:00:01,760
you know, like calling like I guess you're talking about

831
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,159
like MSNBC types or whatever. Like these people have they

832
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,800
not only do they is they have totally impoverished ideological

833
01:00:11,159 --> 01:00:15,760
commitment that they represent. But it's like the parameters of

834
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,719
it don't even exist anymore, you know. That's all they have.

835
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,679
All they had was the Cold War. Like all they

836
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:28,360
have is this ideological imperative that's extra abstracted for anything

837
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,920
historically concrete and that didn't make any sense anymore after

838
01:00:33,079 --> 01:00:37,239
nineteen eighty nine, but that they're still trying to not

839
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:45,000
only they still trying to milk that that that paradigm

840
01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:52,679
for credibility, but they but in ontological terms, like they

841
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:58,119
they have no idea how to even structure political and

842
01:00:58,239 --> 01:01:04,360
historical realities anymore, you know, because it's always made, it's

843
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,079
always making a point the regimes. Like it's like a

844
01:01:07,159 --> 01:01:09,800
million miles wide and like a centimeter deep. There's like

845
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:14,159
nothing near, you know. That's why I don't know what

846
01:01:14,199 --> 01:01:17,719
people can't realize that it's dying, like it has nothing

847
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:24,039
to stand on, you know, nothing, And uh, A large

848
01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:29,440
part of that is because you know, there's there's no

849
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,960
there's no historical imperative animating it.

850
01:01:35,239 --> 01:01:39,039
Speaker 5: Well, to go back to him writing, you know, at

851
01:01:39,079 --> 01:01:40,920
the end of you know, nineteen forty eight or whatever

852
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:45,079
it was, and him not being a reactionary, the imperium

853
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,760
is supposed to be the future, and it's supposed to

854
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,480
be the future of the Spanglarian you know, model of history.

855
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,679
So he says we're moving towards imperium. And I think

856
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,480
his argument, you know, in this book and others, the

857
01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:02,800
culmination of his work is that the Cold War was

858
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:09,760
going to culminate in the European imperium right potential, the.

859
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 3: Idea, what the idea was that the only way that

860
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:19,960
Europe can liberate itself is through a political concord with Moscow.

861
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:27,360
And because communism is not long for this earth, you know,

862
01:02:28,159 --> 01:02:36,719
it'll eventually sort of exhaust its revolutionary momentum. And because

863
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,239
it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's you know, it's in

864
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:46,719
it's a superficial ideological overlay that's at odds with immutable

865
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:51,000
historical processes as they actually are. Like his notion was that,

866
01:02:52,119 --> 01:02:56,400
you know, yes, like the Soviet Union will come to

867
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:01,960
dominate Europe in superficial terms, but the Russians will be

868
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:09,480
both attracted to the political and cultural works of superior

869
01:03:09,559 --> 01:03:15,159
European forms, but also they'll need the that kind of

870
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:20,280
driving engine, not just a prosperity, but of cultural dynamism

871
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,320
that is auto Cathonics to Europe. So essentially, like the

872
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,360
Russians will become European, the Europeans aren't going to become

873
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,760
a Russian. And basically that tract, like if you look

874
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:40,280
at you know, it's when the it's not. It's not

875
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:45,079
the places that when they're Soviet occupation that are mired

876
01:03:45,159 --> 01:03:49,320
in these kinds of sociological catastrophes, you know, like like

877
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,320
the West is like the you know, and even in

878
01:03:53,039 --> 01:03:55,679
in East Germany it wasn't unco like Putin was a

879
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,239
kind of an outlier. But KGB and g R, you

880
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,599
guys were different than the the military, uh and party

881
01:04:03,679 --> 01:04:08,239
occupation authorities. You know, Putin spoke German and and he

882
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,360
can actually speak English in a rudimentary sense, but he's

883
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,280
highly fluent in German. But most uh, most Soviets in

884
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,719
East Germany he didn't even speak German and they didn't

885
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,360
fraternize with Germans socially. You know, there was like the

886
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,800
one off of like some Soviet officer who had like,

887
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,480
you know, a German lady that that he married, but

888
01:04:27,719 --> 01:04:31,119
this not it was actively discouraged. But it's the Russians

889
01:04:31,159 --> 01:04:34,960
just didn't really index with the culture that way, but

890
01:04:35,159 --> 01:04:38,639
they wanted to emulate it, and uh, they wanted the

891
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,119
trappings of it. And that's why that's why East Germany

892
01:04:42,119 --> 01:04:43,440
he was like the jewel in the crown of the

893
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,320
East Block. So I think that kind of goes out saying,

894
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:53,320
but that's what is notion was and moving forward to

895
01:04:53,519 --> 01:05:00,199
an n seek situation as Jacky saw it, you uh,

896
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,440
you know, you'd have this Eurasian super state as uh

897
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:12,079
was what the Third Reich was was their ambition, you know,

898
01:05:12,159 --> 01:05:16,280
but it would come about basically through Soviet victory in Europe.

899
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:21,480
But then over time, you know what would happen is

900
01:05:21,519 --> 01:05:23,840
what I just enumerated. You know, the Russians had become

901
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:28,800
kind of Europeanized as the Soviet system kind of collapsed

902
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:35,039
under its own weight and uh, and the Soviet state

903
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:42,440
abandoned these kinds of revolutionary imperatives. You know, that'd be

904
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:50,599
the new European imperium and uh, you know again it

905
01:05:50,639 --> 01:05:56,079
would be it would be characterized by a kind of

906
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:03,760
vanguardists yeomen like metaphorically speaking, not not talking about actual

907
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,719
Yalmen farmers, although although they in the national soldiers of perspective,

908
01:06:09,719 --> 01:06:12,239
they they were to play a key role in the

909
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:18,360
in the East. But that's a difference. That's a tangential

910
01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:24,519
subject matter. But that's yeah, that that's what that's what

911
01:06:24,639 --> 01:06:33,440
he meant by it, and it's you know, the the

912
01:06:35,519 --> 01:06:37,760
there was no there wasn't like a national socialist or

913
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:42,000
a fish it's equivalent of like new Soviet Man. But

914
01:06:42,159 --> 01:06:51,119
again there is a Hegelian archetype that people like Yaqui

915
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:55,639
and and people like Adolf Hitler and people like Mussolini

916
01:06:57,679 --> 01:07:05,719
viewed as you know, uh, the ideal partisan. And that's

917
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:10,320
that's very much a historical phenomenon, you know. And and

918
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:17,320
again like this, this this archetype is a man who's

919
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:22,559
neither master nor slave, you know. And uh, that's that's

920
01:07:22,599 --> 01:07:26,079
a very uh but that's been that that's that's been

921
01:07:26,119 --> 01:07:34,639
the ambition of a European or a continental philosophy, you know,

922
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:43,719
really from a really from yeah, really really from the

923
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:49,320
Hagel onward and even people like uh cont And and

924
01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:52,679
Hume obviously like you know, in in terms of their

925
01:07:53,079 --> 01:07:59,480
political values, they they they they came down and you know,

926
01:07:59,719 --> 01:08:04,000
on the issue differently than somebody like fictor Schopenhauer or

927
01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:09,039
Nietzsche or Heidegger. But that that was the ambition, you know,

928
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:15,519
the the sovereign individual, you know, who's.

929
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,399
Speaker 1: Not a.

930
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:26,359
Speaker 3: Who doesn't who It wasn't part of this minuet of

931
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:35,680
a you know, of of the traditional class paradigms. And

932
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,439
that that's that's that's fundamental because a lot a lot

933
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:43,560
of people they senter this idea that national socialism and

934
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,039
and some of it's adjacent to ideological tendencies. That these

935
01:08:49,039 --> 01:08:52,039
are just like reactionary guys on steroids or something that's

936
01:08:52,079 --> 01:08:55,319
not at all the case. That's that completely misunderstands what

937
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,000
their historical ambition was.

938
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:08,039
Speaker 2: So how does that translate? How do we translate this

939
01:09:08,279 --> 01:09:12,399
to the situation that we're in in the United States

940
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:18,319
in twenty twenty five. More people are waking up to

941
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:24,520
people like Yaqui, people like Spangler, to high culture. More

942
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:29,359
people are waking up to our occupation, and they're looking

943
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:33,279
for answers to how to how to fight against it,

944
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,960
how to or or at least how to mitigate the

945
01:09:36,079 --> 01:09:39,000
damage it's done. How do we translate that now?

946
01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, in America, the situation has always been

947
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,840
that the path forward has always been to secede from

948
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,720
the ruling regime. You know, it's not it's not the

949
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,439
ambition isn't to capture the government and put the right

950
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,479
policy in place. Like that doesn't make any sense. That uh,

951
01:10:02,119 --> 01:10:05,239
that that be that that put people in the same

952
01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:09,039
camp metaphorically is as these guys you know, in the

953
01:10:09,119 --> 01:10:11,800
Soviet Union in nineteen eighty six or eighty seven, thinking

954
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,640
like oh well, we just need to we we just

955
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,159
need to find a way to get into the Polaric

956
01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:20,439
Bureau where the Supreme Soviet and try and do what

957
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,119
Shivid Nardse is doing or whatever. But like you know,

958
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:29,239
with an eye to advance, you know, our own kind

959
01:10:29,319 --> 01:10:36,520
of imperatives. That the regime is slowly dying, you know,

960
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:41,640
as I've written about extensively, and the only the only

961
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:47,199
divide now in in in real terms, is between globalism

962
01:10:47,279 --> 01:10:52,439
and the resistance, you know, and people who identify as

963
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:57,560
right wing if they're at all serious. You know, they're

964
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:03,079
building alternative structures and succeeding as much from regime and

965
01:11:03,239 --> 01:11:09,960
system life as possible, and you know, building alternative structures

966
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:16,640
that will be there when it's gone. And again that's

967
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:23,399
already underway, like I'll be dust, yeah, exactly, it's on

968
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:27,600
its way out, and it's gonna be it's probably gonna

969
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:32,079
be another two hundred years before like it's fully realized.

970
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:37,680
And even after that, like something something they called itself

971
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,119
the United States of America is gonna like kind of

972
01:11:40,199 --> 01:11:44,439
shamble on. You know. It's like it's still gonna put

973
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,520
its like seal on things, but no one's gonna really

974
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:53,439
take it seriously, you know, and it's not, uh, it's

975
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,159
gonna be more kind of like a formality than anything,

976
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:01,920
you know. And the real the real power, the real

977
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,479
power projection capability is gonna be with these kinds of

978
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:09,119
constellations of private actors, you know, some of which are

979
01:12:09,159 --> 01:12:13,840
extraordinarily powerful, but none of which have like a monopoly

980
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,720
on the ability to project hard and soft power and

981
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:20,960
planetary capacities, you know. I mean, that's the way to

982
01:12:21,119 --> 01:12:24,640
look at it. And that's why I'm always making the

983
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:30,119
point too that like like people people aren't in the

984
01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:36,000
game who uh who look at like like non white

985
01:12:36,039 --> 01:12:39,640
or non Western people as their ops or something like

986
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,600
whether you like it or not, Like you've got to

987
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,640
like live among these people, Like that doesn't mean you should.

988
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,439
That doesn't mean like, you know, I'm not talking about

989
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,119
like the current immigration paradigm or something which obviously is

990
01:12:49,239 --> 01:12:53,800
tailored to cause destruction. I'm not talking about that. Like

991
01:12:54,199 --> 01:12:58,640
what I'm saying is that deciding that resistance elements are

992
01:12:59,399 --> 01:13:02,840
like your enemy like is is totally self defeating and

993
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:07,560
it's literally retarded because you know, so the paradigm is

994
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:11,960
totally different than during the Cold War. But you know

995
01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:17,159
the but that's uh, I mean yeah, people ask like

996
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,560
what what would Francis Perger Yucky or people I can

997
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:25,720
think today, you know, they'd uh, they'd they'd look at

998
01:13:26,079 --> 01:13:29,439
they look at Russia, they'd look at as that, you know,

999
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,159
as as a key aspect of the resistance. You know,

1000
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:42,479
you consider them the Arab world especially, you know especially

1001
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:50,199
you know, the Palatinian resistance is key to uh, this

1002
01:13:50,399 --> 01:13:56,399
consolation of of resistance actors. You know this this should

1003
01:13:56,439 --> 01:14:00,119
be clear to anybody who's engaged. It's I mean, can

1004
01:14:00,159 --> 01:14:01,800
tell you're talking about either a fan of sister or

1005
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,479
an idiot who's like, yeah, we're gonna save the West

1006
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,319
and like wake up Europe was like what are you

1007
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,279
talking about? Like there're you're you're gonna get in a

1008
01:14:09,359 --> 01:14:12,880
time machine back to back to nineteen forty three, you know,

1009
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,279
and you're gonna turn the tide at Stalingrad. You know, Like,

1010
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,640
but these people don't live in reality. You know. That's

1011
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:25,359
why that's why there are ops, not just because I

1012
01:14:25,399 --> 01:14:28,600
mean yeah, like some are like obvious grifters and like

1013
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:34,359
fig it's like uh, like Princess Dicky Spencer and or

1014
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:38,920
guys like Greg Johnson who decided they don't like darkies

1015
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,520
because like some hood rat like called them gay or something.

1016
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,439
But uh, I mean there's like it's easy to kind

1017
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,520
of like hook fun at those guys because they deserve

1018
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:50,640
it and they're just so obviously like goofies. But uh,

1019
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:55,640
you know, most of them, like probably like ninety percent

1020
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,199
of these people just like aren't aren't serious. And and

1021
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,800
even some of those that you know, maybe they're hard

1022
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,920
is in the right place, they don't understand the that

1023
01:15:06,039 --> 01:15:09,720
they don't understand the parameters of the historical situation, so

1024
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,239
you know, they're not really worth engaging with. I mean,

1025
01:15:13,279 --> 01:15:14,960
I I'm trying to go to my way. I trying

1026
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:19,039
to be mean to anybody. I I only the only

1027
01:15:19,119 --> 01:15:21,439
people I openly criticize and make fun of are guys

1028
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,920
who are like legit assholes and are doing harm, like

1029
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:28,640
the guys that's mentioned. But I'm not gonna I'm not

1030
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,800
gonna pretend that we've got like on board or like

1031
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:33,840
index of people who don't know what the fuck's going on,

1032
01:15:34,039 --> 01:15:36,399
which just because like they're good guys, you know, when

1033
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,039
their heart's in the right place or something. I mean,

1034
01:15:39,039 --> 01:15:47,560
I feel very strong about this, but you know, I'm.

1035
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 2: One of the thing, one of the one of the

1036
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:52,199
things you said about the last I was listening to

1037
01:15:52,319 --> 01:15:58,520
Carl Benjamin the other day talking about England and an

1038
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,920
American super chatted him and asked him a question about,

1039
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,720
you know, taking back England, and he said, he so

1040
01:16:07,079 --> 01:16:11,399
the problem we have here is not that people don't

1041
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,720
care about England, he said, it's gotten to the point

1042
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:19,319
where people don't care about themselves. Yeah, so it's like,

1043
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,439
how what what are you trying to save? How do

1044
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,920
you how do you save a people who like are

1045
01:16:26,039 --> 01:16:29,920
self loathing at this point where they they will literally

1046
01:16:30,199 --> 01:16:36,520
not do anything. They they won't even speak out for

1047
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,439
threat of being arrested. Like some guy the other day

1048
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,319
who said that, you know, people should speak English, and

1049
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,479
you know in England and you have these like British

1050
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,720
cops who are who are like ready to arrest them

1051
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,439
for it. It's like, I mean, if you're if your cops,

1052
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,399
if you're if your police won't step up for you,

1053
01:16:55,560 --> 01:17:01,399
and they're armed and you and the people literally hate themselves,

1054
01:17:02,279 --> 01:17:03,239
how do you save that?

1055
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:09,119
Speaker 3: Well, it's also uh, yeah, what's also too And yeah,

1056
01:17:09,159 --> 01:17:12,039
I mean that England is an extreme situation because it's

1057
01:17:12,359 --> 01:17:19,720
it's it's a totally destroyed country. But even I mean

1058
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:26,279
the point of people, like even even in circumstances here,

1059
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:32,319
like in America, even in places where you know, there's

1060
01:17:32,399 --> 01:17:37,560
more people are more animated towards corrective action, like without

1061
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:43,119
without some sort of h without some sort of spiritual life,

1062
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:48,239
and without any sort of like communitarian ethos, like you're

1063
01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:50,920
pissing into the wind. It's like so if I like

1064
01:17:51,039 --> 01:17:53,560
even if if you know, if you if you go

1065
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:57,760
to go to some blighted place like Flint, Michigan, or

1066
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:01,439
like or some of these places in Filly or whatever,

1067
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,520
it's like, okay, even if those people were to like

1068
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:09,079
wake up and like purge immigration or something. But like

1069
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,800
having like a pointless society of like all white people, like,

1070
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,840
it's just that it's like a pointless society. It's like

1071
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,920
a pointless, nihilistic society of like all white people. Like

1072
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,119
why is that awesome? You know, like obviously it's not

1073
01:18:22,359 --> 01:18:31,159
not being somewhat obtuse, but no, the uh, the UK, uh, well,

1074
01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:33,560
I mean the the UK. The UK is as badly

1075
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:36,199
off as Germany because they lost World War two, and

1076
01:18:36,359 --> 01:18:40,680
like that's they're not just it's not just this. Yeah,

1077
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:42,479
it's not just an issue of like them having a

1078
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:46,359
bad government or the ship need to needing to be righted.

1079
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,159
Like the degree to which like they literally lost the

1080
01:18:49,239 --> 01:18:53,199
war like well well diluting themselves and thinking that they

1081
01:18:53,279 --> 01:19:00,600
wanted can't be overstated, you know. And that's uh, you know,

1082
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:07,199
people don't people don't understand that, uh, you know, aren't

1083
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:10,359
in the game because they don't understand the meaning of

1084
01:19:10,399 --> 01:19:12,760
the twentieth century, and they don't understand why World War

1085
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:17,520
II was fought, you know, and like they don't understand

1086
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,479
the stakes that were involved, and they they don't understand

1087
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:25,159
why that's like a critical juncture, you know. And then

1088
01:19:25,279 --> 01:19:30,039
that's also why regime narratives are so bound up with it,

1089
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,560
you know, because like that was there, that that that

1090
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,920
that was that was that was the that was their

1091
01:19:38,079 --> 01:19:41,359
nd seed. You know, that's why it's like they're founding myth.

1092
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:48,640
But uh, it's basically impossible to get people to understand

1093
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,399
these things unless they're a student of such matters and

1094
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:55,439
they just kind of like instinctively apprehend politics. So it's

1095
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:57,319
kind of a fool there and trying to explain it

1096
01:19:57,359 --> 01:20:00,800
to people because they won't. They they just they don't

1097
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,199
get it, you know. And and that's fine. I mean,

1098
01:20:03,319 --> 01:20:09,640
most people aren't gonna understand politics at this scale. I'm

1099
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,640
a I'm gonna I'm gonna raise up in a minute.

1100
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,520
I don't mean to be abrupt, and it's it's my

1101
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,520
fault because I got a started late, so forgive me

1102
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:17,800
for that.

1103
01:20:18,039 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 1: But I.

1104
01:20:21,319 --> 01:20:24,359
Speaker 3: Well, uh, we'll reconvened later in the week if that's cool,

1105
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,479
and uh, I'll be able to dedicate more uh more

1106
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,439
time when I promise I won't, I won't. Uh, I

1107
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:33,840
won't delay the proceedings again.

1108
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a piss real quick.

1109
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,279
Speaker 5: Guys of the REBECA, Yeah, yeah, it's all good man.

1110
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,720
We all got shit going on. It's great that we

1111
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,439
can keep convening this. Uh, Pete, you want to stick

1112
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,680
around a few minutes. I would like to take the

1113
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:50,359
high culture conversation a little bit longer if you have time.

1114
01:20:52,359 --> 01:20:55,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I have. I have imperium pulled up here, so.

1115
01:20:55,399 --> 01:21:03,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's not even necessarily from imperium. But maybe

1116
01:21:03,119 --> 01:21:06,000
I misunderstood you the other day, but we were talking

1117
01:21:06,079 --> 01:21:09,279
and you said something about a high culture in America.

1118
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,720
I agree that there was a high culture in America,

1119
01:21:12,279 --> 01:21:14,960
and I think it's basically what you and Stormy we're

1120
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:20,279
talking about the Gilded Age. But is there another chance

1121
01:21:20,359 --> 01:21:22,880
for it? You know, is America going to.

1122
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,399
Speaker 1: Have I think there is something happening. I don't know

1123
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:27,720
if it's as I think.

1124
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,359
Speaker 2: We just talked about the fact that like America is over.

1125
01:21:31,159 --> 01:21:32,920
So if there's going to be a high culture, it's

1126
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,359
going to be it's going to be in pockets and

1127
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,720
it's going I mean, am I wrong, Thomas? It would

1128
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,640
have There's no way you're going America is going to

1129
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,159
have a high culture. If you're going to have a

1130
01:21:44,239 --> 01:21:46,399
high culture, it would have to be localized. It would

1131
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:49,119
have to be people coming together of a culture bearing

1132
01:21:49,199 --> 01:21:53,359
element and and channeling, you know, channeling the spirit of it.

1133
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: But so consciousness doesn't work locally though, we're watching ideas

1134
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,399
travel literally all over the place, pop up in all

1135
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:02,039
these different places.

1136
01:22:02,079 --> 01:22:07,159
Speaker 6: I'll see you guys, I mean, all right, Thomas, tradition, Yeah,

1137
01:22:07,159 --> 01:22:10,840
you're welcome the way, not even just the fact that

1138
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:15,800
the spiritual element of this is non local, right, I'm

1139
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,279
hearing my ideas out of.

1140
01:22:18,399 --> 01:22:21,239
Speaker 1: Like people in their fifties that are not plugged in

1141
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:26,760
talking about martial cultures and like it's fucking unreal. They

1142
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:32,199
the way that ideas travel, and it's not just because

1143
01:22:32,199 --> 01:22:35,600
of the Internet. It's something else. So I don't think that,

1144
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,520
I don't think the I don't think we're going to

1145
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:45,039
see it be local dependent. I think we're we're kind

1146
01:22:45,079 --> 01:22:47,560
of at that point in time where a solid percentage

1147
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,640
of us are all kind of tuned into the same thing.

1148
01:22:53,239 --> 01:22:56,000
You know, not a lot, but you don't need a lot,

1149
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:02,439
and it's non geographic it, right, we all feel a

1150
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:08,840
certain type of way inside. We're all sensitive to something

1151
01:23:09,279 --> 01:23:12,520
whatever you want to call it, use your preference. Right,

1152
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,880
We're all getting the same ideas at the same time.

1153
01:23:15,359 --> 01:23:17,520
We're all getting the same feelings at the same time.

1154
01:23:18,319 --> 01:23:23,319
None of us are in the same place. And frankly,

1155
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:33,880
like we just saw globalism get detonated by the US government, right,

1156
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,479
the US government pulled the plug on globalism. Well Donald

1157
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,239
Trump did, and yes everyone's trying to stop him, but

1158
01:23:39,239 --> 01:23:41,880
it doesn't matter. Once you signal intent, the market's taking

1159
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,960
it from there. Like if you haven't noticed, he says,

1160
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,000
I'm going to do these things. The market doesn't wait

1161
01:23:47,039 --> 01:23:49,479
for those things to be done, It starts unwinding the

1162
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,960
trades itself. Capital is already moving, right. All you need

1163
01:23:54,039 --> 01:24:00,560
to do is signal intent, and after that it's going

1164
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:02,520
to be taken care of by people that are trying

1165
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:05,640
to front run the trade. They're going to do the

1166
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,319
moving for you. They're going to underline globalism for you

1167
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,039
because they can make a bunch of money doing it

1168
01:24:10,159 --> 01:24:14,279
getting there first. And I don't think we're going to

1169
01:24:14,359 --> 01:24:20,960
see anything resembling globalism within two or three years from now. Right.

1170
01:24:21,079 --> 01:24:25,520
The on shoring that's happening is only just hold on

1171
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:26,000
a second.

1172
01:24:30,119 --> 01:24:34,359
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, to Stormy's point, Sorry about that cat problems. Yeah,

1173
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,840
I figured it was your cat. I just wanted to

1174
01:24:37,039 --> 01:24:40,359
interject here to your to your point. What we're talking about, Yaki,

1175
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,119
we're talking about the Golden age, the Gilded age, excuse me,

1176
01:24:44,119 --> 01:24:49,800
the end of globalism. Trump is talking about ushering in

1177
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:53,239
a new Golden age. So of course there's some of that.

1178
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:59,039
Some of that is Trump's typical pumposity and bom bombastic speaking.

1179
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:03,600
But at the same time, that's what the Caesar figure does,

1180
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:06,800
if he is the Caesar figure, the Caesar figure reinvigorates

1181
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,399
people to get them back on track and to get

1182
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:15,000
them filled with the nationalistic spirit and the spirit of

1183
01:25:15,039 --> 01:25:18,119
the culture to work together as a culture again like

1184
01:25:18,239 --> 01:25:18,840
they once.

1185
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,399
Speaker 1: Did, look at Zionism.

1186
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 5: Well, that's what Yaqui says. Exactly, are you getting back

1187
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:27,239
to the essay?

1188
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:32,039
Speaker 1: No, I'm actually pulling up the most recent Quinnipac poll.

1189
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 5: And extremely what are you saying about Zionism?

1190
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:36,119
Speaker 3: Though?

1191
01:25:37,199 --> 01:25:42,239
Speaker 1: Well, okay, so what Quinnipac is saying is that sixty

1192
01:25:42,279 --> 01:25:46,640
percent of Americans don't support Zionism as far as actively

1193
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:51,800
view Israel as a threat to the United States security. Right,

1194
01:25:52,199 --> 01:25:55,840
And the most important part about that is that is

1195
01:25:55,920 --> 01:26:01,119
the most dramatic shift is in conservatives and independent It's yeah,

1196
01:26:01,159 --> 01:26:07,159
but the agents of sixty we'll hold the home. The

1197
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,239
between the ages of sixty or sorry, yeah, fifty nine

1198
01:26:12,279 --> 01:26:13,079
and twenty.

1199
01:26:14,199 --> 01:26:17,560
Speaker 2: Millennia, it's unders under fifty.

1200
01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:21,520
Speaker 1: I just I just did thank you this. But in

1201
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:25,079
the in the subset cartinal, since it's like president in

1202
01:26:25,079 --> 01:26:27,880
your head, I believe it was conservative and independence in

1203
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:31,960
that age group went from seventy percent in support of

1204
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:37,760
to now thirty percent in support of That's fucking huge.

1205
01:26:38,039 --> 01:26:41,239
That means the only people that still believe this shit, Well,

1206
01:26:41,359 --> 01:26:43,840
first off, none of the like the people that are fifty,

1207
01:26:45,199 --> 01:26:49,079
they're not getting their shit on Twitter. They're like these

1208
01:26:49,119 --> 01:26:52,159
people are picking it up culturally from people around them.

1209
01:26:53,239 --> 01:26:56,359
And you don't view Zionism as a threat to the

1210
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,039
United States like an actual threat, which is I believe

1211
01:26:59,079 --> 01:27:04,359
how the questions in the surveys we're posed, right, unless

1212
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:11,520
you see the apparatus that controls the US government through

1213
01:27:12,399 --> 01:27:16,760
we'll call it unscrupulous behavior and means, and then forces

1214
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:20,039
the US government to then go do things that hurt it.

1215
01:27:21,199 --> 01:27:23,279
Because that's the only way Israel's going to be a

1216
01:27:23,359 --> 01:27:26,039
threat to the United States is it's going to take

1217
01:27:26,039 --> 01:27:28,119
control of your government and it's going to make it

1218
01:27:28,199 --> 01:27:30,800
do things that hurt your government. So you can't wake

1219
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,079
up to that without waking up to the power structure.

1220
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,319
Like that's a profound thing because you and let's put

1221
01:27:41,319 --> 01:27:43,079
this way, you don't stop at a pack? Did any

1222
01:27:43,119 --> 01:27:44,079
of us stop at a pack?

1223
01:27:46,359 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 5: What you mean?

1224
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:54,119
Speaker 1: Once you go down that road, you know, you may

1225
01:27:54,199 --> 01:27:58,239
not end up where we're at, but you're definitely not

1226
01:27:58,439 --> 01:27:59,199
checked in anymore.

1227
01:28:00,119 --> 01:28:03,039
Speaker 2: Right, the people who stop the people who stop at

1228
01:28:03,119 --> 01:28:07,000
Zionism yea, as Thomas would say, they're not in the game.

1229
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 3: You have to go further.

1230
01:28:11,279 --> 01:28:15,039
Speaker 2: The people, the people who are running Zionism and doing

1231
01:28:15,079 --> 01:28:19,479
the things that Zionism does. We're doing this before Zionism existed.

1232
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:25,680
So this isn't a Zionism problem. Zionism. I will use

1233
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:32,760
the term Zionism strategically, but everyone knows. I'm not scared

1234
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:37,079
of saying it is Jews. And I don't even really

1235
01:28:37,279 --> 01:28:41,399
like the Jews. I just like Jews because when you

1236
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:45,479
when you look at banking, you find Jews. When you

1237
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,560
look at when you look at d C, you find

1238
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,319
I mean not d C, well, d C too, but

1239
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,079
Hollywood you find Jews. When you look at pornography, you

1240
01:28:54,199 --> 01:28:59,359
find Jews. It's not the Jews, it's Jews. And you

1241
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:03,079
can see this in a lot of Jews right now

1242
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,680
are basically running. They're I mean, they're running as far

1243
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:16,560
away from their fellow travelers there, their fellow ethic Yeah,

1244
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:22,520
normantin controlled by Yeah. Norman Finkelstein was on Jimmy Yeah.

1245
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:26,520
Norman Fankelstein was on Jimmy Door today saying that Hollywood

1246
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:29,640
is controlled by Jews. He said, yeah, and it's more

1247
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,079
than this. Actually, he says since nineteen eighty there have

1248
01:29:32,159 --> 01:29:36,159
been two hundred Holocaust movies made. No actually maybe out

1249
01:29:36,199 --> 01:29:38,960
of Hollywood, but if you look at minor studios and

1250
01:29:39,079 --> 01:29:42,359
things like that, it's actually you're looking more like four hundred.

1251
01:29:43,119 --> 01:29:48,159
Well why is that Because that's their that's their crucifixion,

1252
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:52,319
that's their Christ, that's that's their cross. They have to

1253
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:59,560
keep that going or else, you know, it all falls apart. So, yeah,

1254
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:05,359
Zionism is is a major problem. But when you look

1255
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:12,720
at like say, there Saudi Arabia has Jews, Syria had Jews,

1256
01:30:14,199 --> 01:30:20,760
Turkey has Jews, Russia has Jews. Now a bunch of

1257
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:24,800
Spergs will tell you that Putin is completely you know,

1258
01:30:25,199 --> 01:30:28,359
enslaved to the Jews. While they're retarded, I mean, they're

1259
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:32,680
they just they believe they're bigger Zionists than Zionists. They're

1260
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:36,840
bigger Jewish supremacist than any Jews. They're there because they

1261
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:41,600
believe that they they control everything, and it's just not true.

1262
01:30:42,239 --> 01:30:42,399
Speaker 1: You know.

1263
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,119
Speaker 2: It's like Stormy, you know, Stormy and I had a long,

1264
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,359
you know, conversation about who controls Wall Street people.

1265
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:50,279
Speaker 3: Oh it's Jews.

1266
01:30:51,399 --> 01:30:56,319
Speaker 2: Well, no, it's not. Wall Street is basically a guild

1267
01:30:57,439 --> 01:31:01,199
of of interest groups that protect each other because they

1268
01:31:01,319 --> 01:31:03,920
know if they don't protect each other and one gets

1269
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,840
too much power or one fucks off too much, they're

1270
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:10,520
gonna they're in trouble of losing their fucking cash cow,

1271
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,520
which is, yep, their ability to do what they do.

1272
01:31:15,319 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 1: This is a problem with like people that know things,

1273
01:31:18,119 --> 01:31:21,399
but they don't know enough of things. Right. They know

1274
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:24,359
that Jewish power exists, and they organize, and you know,

1275
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,520
they generally push out other people, but and they see

1276
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,239
some of them, like you said in Wall Street, but

1277
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:34,319
that doesn't make you know what's up on, like on

1278
01:31:34,399 --> 01:31:38,079
how that place functions. Like. I love this. It's one

1279
01:31:38,079 --> 01:31:41,479
of my favorite you know, little stats JP Morgan Chase.

1280
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:46,000
The bank didn't hire its first Jewish person till nineteen

1281
01:31:46,039 --> 01:31:55,399
eighty nine, nineteen eighty nine, all rights, like, and they.

1282
01:31:55,079 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 2: Didn't I think it was I think it was nineteen

1283
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:58,159
seventy nine.

1284
01:31:58,239 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 1: Actually, home men, are you correct? By home them guys?

1285
01:32:04,359 --> 01:32:06,479
That's all right, I'm fucking up tonight.

1286
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1287
01:32:07,079 --> 01:32:09,199
Speaker 1: That tells you a very important fact is that there

1288
01:32:09,279 --> 01:32:17,199
are interest groups. Right. David Solomon and Jamie Diamond, the

1289
01:32:17,319 --> 01:32:23,039
two most powerful people in finance globally have signaled the

1290
01:32:23,199 --> 01:32:28,000
end of globalism. Well, what is this organized power group

1291
01:32:28,079 --> 01:32:31,159
that we talked about, what do they want? They want globalism,

1292
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,560
they wrote, they want the nationalism.

1293
01:32:34,199 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 5: They wrote the treaties, they wrote the yep, they literally

1294
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:40,359
wrote globalism, globalization.

1295
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 1: What was it?

1296
01:32:42,039 --> 01:32:47,359
Speaker 5: NAFTA? And yeah, NAFTA in nineteen ninety four couldn't get past.

1297
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:52,920
They had proposed several drafts of NAFTA, but one I

1298
01:32:53,039 --> 01:32:55,199
remember I had an argument with a guy who was

1299
01:32:55,359 --> 01:32:58,800
of the tribe and I said, the Jews are responsible

1300
01:32:58,840 --> 01:33:01,840
for globalism and he said, that's total bullshit. It was

1301
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:05,279
a bipartisan bill. I said, yeah, it was a bipartisan

1302
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:07,800
It was a bipartisan bill. Stormy, you were there for

1303
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:11,319
this argument. It was a bipartisan bill. Yeah. It was

1304
01:33:11,399 --> 01:33:15,800
in a group chat because one side drafted a proposal

1305
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:19,760
for NAFTA that everyone rejected, another side drafted a revised

1306
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,159
proposal that everyone rejected, and then Jews came in and

1307
01:33:23,319 --> 01:33:27,600
wrote a new revised proposal that everyone accepted. And two

1308
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:31,680
of those Jews were jose Stieglitz and Paul Krugman. Some

1309
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:35,319
of them. I don't know if those those two have

1310
01:33:35,359 --> 01:33:38,640
both won the Nobel Prize for Economics. I'm not sure

1311
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:39,720
if they won it specifically.

1312
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:44,239
Speaker 1: Both of them are basically in the last five years.

1313
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:50,920
To call them discredited, I mean everybody is basically everyone

1314
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:55,319
in finance nobody. Like these people held a huge position

1315
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:58,840
of like financial authorities and like banks would do what

1316
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:02,119
they say, listen money where these people said.

1317
01:34:02,119 --> 01:34:06,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul Krugman, Yeah, in particular, right, he was like

1318
01:34:06,399 --> 01:34:09,960
dictating policy from the pages of the New York Times.

1319
01:34:10,159 --> 01:34:13,119
But see this is how it works, right, because they

1320
01:34:13,199 --> 01:34:16,640
have plausible deniability because it was a draft. It was

1321
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:19,439
an excuse me, a proposal that was accepted by both sides.

1322
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:23,920
It was a bipartisan thing. But at the same time,

1323
01:34:24,159 --> 01:34:28,159
the nineteen sixty four uh, well, I don't know if

1324
01:34:28,199 --> 01:34:30,920
it got pat Yeah, the Immigration build nineteen sixty four

1325
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,319
that was also written with Jews. So you blame it

1326
01:34:35,399 --> 01:34:38,039
on Jews, and people say, oh, no, its Kennedy. It

1327
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:42,359
was the Democrats and it was agreed upon by everyone.

1328
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 3: No.

1329
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 5: Sorry. They were trying to get some sort of immigration

1330
01:34:48,039 --> 01:34:52,039
bill passed that had massive amounts of restrictions on non Europeans,

1331
01:34:52,239 --> 01:34:54,920
and the one that they finally put through was literally

1332
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,520
written by Jews. The book A Nation of Immigrants that

1333
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:01,439
John F. Kennedy wrote was written and by Jewish people.

1334
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:04,760
So that's what we're talking about. That's why we are

1335
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:09,279
saying that. But Pete is also correct. They don't literally

1336
01:35:09,359 --> 01:35:12,960
control every single facet of every government in the entire world.

1337
01:35:13,239 --> 01:35:15,560
And Pete, I wanted to add to that what you said.

1338
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:20,560
Not only do those people say that Jews control literally everything,

1339
01:35:21,560 --> 01:35:24,479
but they also say that there's no escaping it, that

1340
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,039
that they will never lose control until everything crashes and

1341
01:35:28,079 --> 01:35:29,920
burns and the only thing to do is prepare for

1342
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,760
how to fucking live off of rain water and uh,

1343
01:35:33,319 --> 01:35:38,560
you know, possible roadkill. You've heard that. I'm sure right that, like,

1344
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,119
they don't just control, but they will never not.

1345
01:35:41,159 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 1: Be the guys that are so black pilled, they're actually

1346
01:35:44,039 --> 01:35:44,800
doing exactly that.

1347
01:35:45,079 --> 01:35:50,039
Speaker 5: Astral Oh, yeah, I wasn't being hyperbolic or facetious.

1348
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 2: Someone I had a a sweet today. Some one of

1349
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:05,159
the typical Zionist females on Twitter had something about if

1350
01:36:05,199 --> 01:36:08,439
a certain breed of dog continuously takes human life, often

1351
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:12,399
the tiniest, most defenseless humans, then that breed should be banned,

1352
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,199
and then she goes. The fun part about this post

1353
01:36:15,319 --> 01:36:17,960
is I didn't name a breed, you just know. And

1354
01:36:18,079 --> 01:36:21,960
my comment was if a certain people group continually gets

1355
01:36:22,039 --> 01:36:25,039
kicked out of every country they go to, amazing that

1356
01:36:25,119 --> 01:36:28,359
I don't have to mention who. And someone goes, what's

1357
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:31,600
your solution, and I said localism as far away from

1358
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:34,279
them as possible, and then gatekeeping. No group has a

1359
01:36:34,399 --> 01:36:36,880
right to access to another. And he said what if

1360
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:40,079
that doesn't work? And I said, that's the exact question

1361
01:36:40,239 --> 01:36:46,079
someone asks, who gets excluded from our group? They don't think,

1362
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:50,560
they don't think you can win. Why do I want

1363
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,720
I'm not going to have somebody around I don't want

1364
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:57,880
somebody around me who's asking that question? Now if you

1365
01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:59,760
want to say, if you want to start getting into

1366
01:37:00,039 --> 01:37:03,199
articulars of how this would work, everything like that. Sure,

1367
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:05,520
but if you come right out of the gate, we're

1368
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:10,439
going to lose. Fuck you, you're out. I don't want

1369
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:12,760
anything to do with you because we're going to win.

1370
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 1: It's so much of this depends on hiding, right, Like

1371
01:37:22,159 --> 01:37:25,680
how does Macivli say it? Like if you're going to

1372
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:27,720
take over a government, but you need if you're going

1373
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:31,920
to take over a I can't remember whether they says

1374
01:37:32,039 --> 01:37:34,920
kingdom or principality, whatever. But if you're going to take

1375
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,920
it over without the people knowing that you've taken over,

1376
01:37:38,039 --> 01:37:44,760
if you leave all of the edifices, all the outside fixtures,

1377
01:37:45,039 --> 01:37:48,640
the aesthetics, the buildings, and you change the way that

1378
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:53,840
they operate inside, you can effectively run that for an

1379
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:57,600
infinite long a long period of time, as long as

1380
01:37:57,920 --> 01:37:59,720
the people don't ever know.

1381
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 3: Right.

1382
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 1: But once they do, it basically says this is the

1383
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:09,199
riskiest thing to do in the world because as once

1384
01:38:09,239 --> 01:38:15,000
they do, you no longer have the ability to wield force. Right,

1385
01:38:15,159 --> 01:38:18,920
you can't wield any type of martial power because you

1386
01:38:19,119 --> 01:38:22,800
rule from in secret. So therefore your authority is a

1387
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:27,840
secret authority, right, it's a you know, finagally type authority,

1388
01:38:29,279 --> 01:38:32,720
and men won't do anything in their own soil against

1389
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:36,800
their own countrymen with that type of given by that

1390
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,199
type of authority. If you're going to command men to

1391
01:38:39,279 --> 01:38:45,199
either rebellion right or to quelling insurrection, you have to

1392
01:38:45,319 --> 01:38:48,840
have the authority. The authority needs to be visible, as

1393
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:53,760
in like foxes can't make foxes can't make for per

1394
01:38:55,039 --> 01:38:58,840
oppressive governments. You could never get away with what Stalin did, right,

1395
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:01,359
If it was just the po At Bureau, if it

1396
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:05,600
was not Stolid, the guy where authority is arrested clearly

1397
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,479
in him, you would never be able to do any

1398
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of that.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly the why I was optimistic about Trump, dude,

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That's exactly what I was optimistic about Trump.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have to do shit. He has oh he

1402
01:39:18,359 --> 01:39:22,079
has to do is to do is yeah, and he

1403
01:39:22,119 --> 01:39:24,920
has to see people all everyone. The best thing that

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01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:30,920
Trump can do is sit there and keep getting these

1405
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people to come out of the fucking woodwork where Norman

1406
01:39:34,039 --> 01:39:37,359
Republicans can see him or see them, and then try

1407
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and fuck up his agenda. The best thing that Zionists

1408
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:44,960
can do is actively push the most maga people out

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01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:48,920
of his government, out of his cabinet, and try and

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get him into wars that he's actively campaigning against. Right, Like,

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01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:56,600
the best thing that they can do for us is

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exactly what they're fucking doing. Right, You got like fucking

1413
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:04,800
who are the Hodge Twins? Right? Like, I know boomers

1414
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:06,640
that listen to like the Hodge Twins because like, oh

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01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:11,279
they're you know, they're my base blacks. You know, I

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01:40:11,399 --> 01:40:16,119
am both not racist and conserving and you know, consuming

1417
01:40:16,159 --> 01:40:20,039
my daily slamp allowmance at the same time a multitasking

1418
01:40:21,399 --> 01:40:25,880
and these guys are having fucking like having people on

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01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,319
that are openly talking about how the Holocaust isn't real,

1420
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all right, how apac works. It was on the fucking

1421
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Hodge Twins, like Canas owns is going after the Holocaust, Like,

1422
01:40:41,079 --> 01:40:44,039
we're in a very different place than I think anybody

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01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:51,000
predicted that we would be. And guys like even the

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one thing that I think that I wish Francis was

1425
01:40:55,119 --> 01:41:04,000
around today for is because he what he describes in

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01:41:04,079 --> 01:41:07,199
imperium and how it functions is the thing that gets

1427
01:41:07,279 --> 01:41:09,760
us from here this place that he actually, like a

1428
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:13,359
lot of people him included, didn't think that we would

1429
01:41:13,359 --> 01:41:19,439
ever be in unless things would absolutely just collapse, right,

1430
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:24,760
But now we're at the point where just the regime

1431
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:29,640
is collapsing and not the country, And like, the thing

1432
01:41:29,720 --> 01:41:32,119
that gets us from here to where we want to

1433
01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:36,960
go is that ideal that he is able to explain

1434
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:42,520
the way he does. And that's like, that's why I

1435
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think it's important that we focus on him, because he's

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the only one that accurately describes both the spiritual and physical, Like, yeah,

1437
01:41:52,159 --> 01:41:56,079
you know, corporeal realities of the political but also that

1438
01:41:56,199 --> 01:41:58,760
it's not like you're just seeing the expressions, you're seeing

1439
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,159
the ripples on the water, You're actually see the current

1440
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underneath it.

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Speaker 5: It's too late in the show to dive into that,

1442
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:07,359
but I want to start off talking about that another time,

1443
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:10,439
because that's a whole other thing that's absolutely needs to

1444
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:11,760
be talked about with Yaki.

1445
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Speaker 1: He do you remember when I first reached out to you, Astro,

1446
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:16,560
like the very first thing I ever talked to, Like,

1447
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:18,319
I think it was like the very first time you

1448
01:42:18,399 --> 01:42:21,800
and I spoke and we talked about the zeitgeist.

1449
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, of course.

1450
01:42:25,079 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, he thinks this gist is

1451
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:28,279
like a vibe and it's not.

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Speaker 5: Look, it's like a vibe.

1453
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:30,159
Speaker 3: Feel.

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01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:35,279
Speaker 5: We're coming back around to Yaki now, like the zeitgeist

1455
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:38,079
and all the stuff you're talking about. We're like catching

1456
01:42:38,119 --> 01:42:40,479
up to Yaki. He talked about all this shit, he

1457
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:45,800
said all of this stuff, so we're like, but we're

1458
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:47,000
just now catching up to him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was like, what the zeitgeist is is

1460
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:58,479
what another horribly misused term in aggregor is all right,

1461
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:03,319
Like this is something that possess as people. If you

1462
01:43:03,359 --> 01:43:06,199
look at like the National Socialists, everyone in the country

1463
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was every painter all right, every architect, every you know typist,

1464
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:19,880
every tailor. Like there wasn't big meetings of all the

1465
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:21,920
tailors like hey this is how you need to tailor,

1466
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:24,479
or any architects saying hey, this is how you got

1467
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:28,479
to build stuff, this is how it has to look right,

1468
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or painters or name anybody in that culture. They were

1469
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:38,319
all guided by the same esthetic they were all bringing.

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It's like they all had a unified vision of what

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needed to come out and what their little role in

1472
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it would be, and they were unconsciously bringing about something

1473
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:52,800
that was a much bigger, cohesive thing, even though they

1474
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:54,880
only saw a little piece of it. They didn't all

1475
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:57,680
of a sudden decide like, oh well, because of the

1476
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:01,880
political situation and who is you know in the Bundestag,

1477
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I think that I am going to start building buildings

1478
01:44:06,039 --> 01:44:08,039
with a little bit of this type of flair in it,

1479
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:11,359
or I think we're going to start you know, we're

1480
01:44:11,399 --> 01:44:14,960
gonna start tailoring suits. This particular type of way like

1481
01:44:15,039 --> 01:44:19,920
that ever happened. These people just instinctively just did it.

1482
01:44:23,319 --> 01:44:26,880
I don't think anybody ever focus enough attention is paid

1483
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:30,920
on that because all of these people were going about

1484
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:36,880
their daily lives suddenly in the spirit of something, and

1485
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:40,680
that's exactly what he's talking about. And I think we're

1486
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:43,840
at the earliest stages of that now everyone kind of

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knows history is happening.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it's turning against the Holocaust narrative.

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01:44:55,079 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 1: That again, when Pete and you were just saying it,

1490
01:44:57,960 --> 01:45:00,520
I was thinking in my head, I'm like, well, fuck,

1491
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:02,239
there goes old religious.

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Speaker 3: Station. Slastionis