1 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,359 Speaker 1: It's the Internet. You're busy, Let's do this. Welcome to 2 00:00:30,399 --> 00:00:33,320 the Game As Decides Podcast. This is the podcast where 3 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,640 we decide everything about the world of games, so you 4 00:00:35,759 --> 00:00:39,000 never have to think for yourself. I'm your host Jeff Grubb, 5 00:00:39,119 --> 00:00:39,439 and with. 6 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,399 Speaker 2: Me is Jawn Turbo Shan McDowell. 7 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,119 Speaker 1: In today's episode, Steam Machine review kind of sort of, 8 00:00:47,359 --> 00:00:49,880 I've started messing around with it a little bit. Layoffs 9 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,679 at Bungee Star Fox is back Jack. But first, Sean, 10 00:00:54,679 --> 00:00:55,200 how are you doing? 11 00:00:56,039 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: Been better? Jeff? Been better? Shitty news day, A lot happening, 12 00:01:01,479 --> 00:01:04,799 A lot of the street continues. Mike Minati nowhere to 13 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,560 be found when all the bad news happened, so I 14 00:01:06,599 --> 00:01:08,319 have to talk about it. Thanks for that. 15 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: I think he might be behind it all. He's orchestrating, 16 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,000 he's pulling the strings. 17 00:01:12,239 --> 00:01:14,519 Speaker 2: I think he just he knows so he knows the 18 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:17,400 town so he can dodge that. So I'm here tonight. 19 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,760 You know everything's going up in price. No one can't 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:24,280 afford shit. They lay at the end of the tunnel. 21 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,319 I was gonna watch my good friend Jeff Grubb play 22 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,480 Monster of the def Faull fantasy right now right eye 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,400 bombed today. Then ug knockou Waltz is into your basement 24 00:01:31,439 --> 00:01:34,560 with a fucking gun, shoots your PS four pros SSC 25 00:01:34,599 --> 00:01:35,079 and says. 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it working. Now we'll try so we'll 27 00:01:41,359 --> 00:01:44,280 try again tomorrow. Uh shit, it looked pretty cool. That 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,280 Monster of the Deep was scary. I just got to 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:48,799 the title screen. I don't know if that was actually 30 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,439 the Monster of the Deep, but there was. 31 00:01:50,439 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: Definitely seriously right. 32 00:01:52,239 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean there was a bunch of fish, but 33 00:01:53,719 --> 00:01:57,319 there was one especially scary one. We'll see. Uh yeah, yeah, 34 00:01:57,319 --> 00:01:59,920 we'll play some of that. It's man, who knew fishing 35 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:02,319 was going to keep me so busy. It's definitely kept 36 00:02:02,359 --> 00:02:04,519 me on my toes back. I know, I haven't had 37 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:07,840 time for much else actually, but yeah, it's been fun 38 00:02:07,879 --> 00:02:11,120 over there, having a good time doing that. But you're right, Sean, 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,879 it's a healthscape and we're going to talk about it. 40 00:02:13,879 --> 00:02:15,400 It's kind of going to be Today's show kind of 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,919 going over all this stuff. We'll try to figure out 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,520 where gaming's at, kind of see like why these things 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,000 are happening. I think we have some pretty good ideas 44 00:02:24,039 --> 00:02:26,080 of why prices are going up still and why they 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,199 think they can keep getting away with it. We'll talk 46 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,439 about all of that. 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Let's start with Valve. 74 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,719 Let's start with the Steam machine. We did get the 75 00:03:48,759 --> 00:03:52,960 price for that one fifty dollars for the base model, 76 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,800 which is without a Steam controller and five hundred and 77 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,919 twelve gigabytes of storage, no verys in the processor or 78 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,319 GPU or anything like that, as expected. The two terabyte 79 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,960 model is the variation here. You can get one of 80 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,319 those for thirteen forty nine. Then if you do want 81 00:04:11,479 --> 00:04:14,280 either of those with the controller, you are going to 82 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,439 be talking about eleven twenty eight and fourteen twenty eight respectively. Yes, 83 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:23,600 woof indeed, but these this is the range I think 84 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,759 we were kind of expecting in the last few weeks 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,600 as we kept watching this can get kicked down the 86 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:32,800 road and all of the component prices continuing to go 87 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,120 up and continuing to spread into other areas and continuing 88 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,519 to spread like sort of downward into other products. It's like, Okay, 89 00:04:39,519 --> 00:04:43,480 it's getting worse, not getting any better. There is no relief. 90 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,600 Every time it does feel like the AI bubble might burst, 91 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:49,360 which is not going to solve this overnight by any means. 92 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,720 That doesn't happen. That also keeps getting kicked down the road. 93 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,519 So these companies have to a certain point just like 94 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,800 pick the price that they can live with in the 95 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,519 medium term. And so here we are. It's get on arrival, 96 00:05:03,879 --> 00:05:06,319 is the thing I keep hearing people say, and I 97 00:05:06,399 --> 00:05:09,720 think that might be overstating it a little bit. Yeah, 98 00:05:09,759 --> 00:05:11,839 but it's also for most people that's how they feel. 99 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,439 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, this is like, like you mentioned, if 100 00:05:15,439 --> 00:05:18,319 you were paying attention, this is roughly how much we 101 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,160 expect it to cost, maybe even a little less, because 102 00:05:21,199 --> 00:05:23,519 maybe this is just this is just how much a 103 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,639 computer costs nowadays everybody like people have done the math. 104 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,360 Gamers and Nexus and Digital Foundry both did the math 105 00:05:30,439 --> 00:05:33,319 and think PC world. They also did some pricing out 106 00:05:33,319 --> 00:05:36,360 of stuff, and if you built a PC roughly on 107 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,959 equivalent with the Steam machine, roughly on par with it, 108 00:05:39,959 --> 00:05:42,319 it comes out to about thousand dollars, So you know, 109 00:05:42,439 --> 00:05:44,399 depending on how much you want to cheap out on 110 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:48,160 like a case of maybe a lesser brand of power supply, 111 00:05:48,319 --> 00:05:51,079 simpler motherboard or stuff like that. Even if you cheap out, 112 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,800 they're really only charging you like one hundred dollars premium 113 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,920 to basically have a pre built PC and one with 114 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,519 the unique hardware features like you know, beyond turnout with 115 00:05:59,519 --> 00:06:02,839 the control or and even that small form factor. It is, 116 00:06:02,879 --> 00:06:05,000 you know, a little bit bigger than a GameCube, but 117 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:09,839 it is p S five level of fidelity. So yeah, 118 00:06:09,959 --> 00:06:12,240 like this is just how much that costs nowadays, they're 119 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,000 not taking people for a ride. That's just where we're 120 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,879 at exactly. There's there's more of this subject that may 121 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,839 we'll talk about in a second here, but everything's going 122 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,399 up across the board and nobody, no company can achieve 123 00:06:24,439 --> 00:06:28,800 profitability without raising their prices as much. They Valve said 124 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,519 that if you look at the Steam deck and how 125 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,920 much they increase that price, well, you know, they couldn't 126 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,720 commit to something, but they said, you can maybe do 127 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,560 the math to figure out how much they had to 128 00:06:38,639 --> 00:06:42,040 raise the Steam machine buy and it would have so 129 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,040 that means that like working backwards, it will have come 130 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,240 out to like maybe around seven fifty I think is 131 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,959 what most people are landing on, and that sounds right. 132 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,959 For like, if you take the pre rise price of 133 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,360 a PS five and compare that to a seven hundred 134 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,800 and fifty dollars Steam machine, that's roughly equivalent to like, 135 00:06:58,519 --> 00:07:00,399 I think that the basic nap can map tends to 136 00:07:00,399 --> 00:07:04,160 be roughly two hundred ish, maybe three hundred more or 137 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,600 a PC for the equivalent, like level of console performance 138 00:07:07,879 --> 00:07:10,600 is usually what it is the difference between the two. 139 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,040 So this would have made sense, and so the price 140 00:07:14,079 --> 00:07:17,360 increase makes sense, as we see with other companies, including 141 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,319 the console makers raising the prices proportionately as well. 142 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am as you said, well, we'll get into that, 143 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,839 and you know, we know this. We can talk it 144 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:28,439 through and explain it and get you know, and at 145 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,120 a lower price. And it's like, you know, the PS 146 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:32,959 five Pro is a lower price, and this is a 147 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,680 lower price. When you're like, ah, you know, it's not 148 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,399 as powerful as a PS five Pro and the PS 149 00:07:37,439 --> 00:07:40,079 five pros a little bit less money. I think people 150 00:07:40,079 --> 00:07:42,079 are still like, yeah, but I can get on PC 151 00:07:42,199 --> 00:07:43,839 and get a bunch of PC games I've always wanted 152 00:07:43,879 --> 00:07:46,519 to play and I've not been in the PC ecosystem. 153 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:48,800 They could still talk themselves into it a little bit. 154 00:07:49,639 --> 00:07:52,480 At this price, it's like, well, I'm clearly choosing one 155 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,199 or the other. Maybe if I even feel like I'm 156 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,720 capable of producing that amount of money to buy something. 157 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,279 And at that point, I gotta feel like the PS 158 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,120 five Pro is going to be a better deal because 159 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:05,600 I'm going to be getting better visuals in most games, 160 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,160 and it has most of the games that I want 161 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,160 to play. And that's you know, that's the conversation that 162 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,439 was probably always going to play out to some extent 163 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,079 for most people, but it just feels exacerbated by these 164 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:18,639 very high numbers that we're seeing right now. 165 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,519 Speaker 2: It's no longer a commodity. 166 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: It's an investment, luxury, luxury good, not a commodity. Nope. Yes, 167 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,720 and that's because the things that are going inside these things, 168 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,120 which were very commodified over decades of sort of refinement, 169 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,000 they have become like but you could put a thing 170 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:37,960 of a stick of ram on a necklace right now 171 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,879 it is jewelry. It is just insane what has happened. 172 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,919 And to that end, there's not you know, the light 173 00:08:44,919 --> 00:08:46,799 at the end of the tunnel isn't really there for 174 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,480 this stuff in any real way. We just don't expect 175 00:08:50,519 --> 00:08:53,159 this stuff to be solved anytime soon the next two 176 00:08:53,279 --> 00:08:55,679 three years, and then when we do get on the 177 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,000 other side, it's probably not going to be like it was. 178 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,399 Maybe ever like it might never be like it was. 179 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,639 And that's the real that's the real kicker here. 180 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to talk about the other price increases 181 00:09:07,399 --> 00:09:09,559 that we saw today as sort of by comparison, I 182 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,440 don't think we have in the rundown, but we talk. 183 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,519 Speaker 1: About Yeah, yeah, let me actually get the details here 184 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:13,960 real quick. 185 00:09:14,039 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 2: So broadly speaking, Apple announced price increases, and in general 186 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:20,919 it's like one hundred to two hundred dollars per product 187 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,759 based on how much the starting price was. Xbox is 188 00:09:23,799 --> 00:09:26,759 the pasetek, Yeah yeah, Xbox is the big one. Xbox 189 00:09:26,759 --> 00:09:30,039 also announced price increases today. That's the third price increase. 190 00:09:30,519 --> 00:09:34,679 They didn't even announce MSRPs. They didn't say what the 191 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,399 new MSRPs are. They just said for items in the 192 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,639 stack that cost or that have five hundred and twelve 193 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,000 gigabytes of stores, they would go up by one hundred, 194 00:09:44,399 --> 00:09:47,360 and items that are one terror byte go up by 195 00:09:47,399 --> 00:09:50,759 one fifty and two terror By models are discontinued. So 196 00:09:50,879 --> 00:09:54,000 if you actually do the math there, and I had 197 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,080 to like look up like the MSRPs of each one 198 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,080 because I'm like, wait, how much were each of these 199 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,360 after the price increase? So, if I'm getting it right, 200 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,559 the Series S went up to four hundred, which means 201 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,960 that the Series S will now cost five hundred dollars 202 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,360 and the Series X is now six point fifty. That's 203 00:10:11,399 --> 00:10:14,840 gonna be an eight hundred dollars console for the baseline 204 00:10:14,919 --> 00:10:15,639 Series X. 205 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,279 Speaker 1: Yes, it is, Sean, that is deeply What do you 206 00:10:21,279 --> 00:10:23,879 even need to talk after that line, Mike drop after 207 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:32,279 saying exactly, I mean, that's that is unreasonable. That is unacceptable, 208 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,639 maybe is the better way of saying it. It's flabbergasting 209 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,519 because we were not selling a lot of these things anyhow, 210 00:10:40,919 --> 00:10:44,559 and so's and they know that. So they're not doing 211 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,679 this unless they unless they have to to a certain extent. 212 00:10:47,759 --> 00:10:49,480 And at the same time, Sean, I think there is 213 00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:53,759 a little bit of if we're gonna do this, we 214 00:10:53,879 --> 00:10:56,799 gotta do it now because Grand Theft Auto six is 215 00:10:56,799 --> 00:10:59,039 our last chance to sort of get in before the 216 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,519 door closes. Yeah, and I think that they think they 217 00:11:02,639 --> 00:11:05,200 can maybe get away with things a little bit more 218 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,279 because of that. Now, you know, this is the manufacturer 219 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,039 suggested retail price. These things are going to get discounted 220 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,720 a lot, I bet you know, discounted from the current 221 00:11:14,919 --> 00:11:16,879 the new price back down to the prices that we 222 00:11:17,039 --> 00:11:20,159 kind of have maybe right now. And but that's you know, 223 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,519 it's all about raising that average sales price, and this 224 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,679 will lead to that. But yeah, I mean this, there's 225 00:11:27,799 --> 00:11:29,960 rumors still that they're going to PlayStation somebody's going to 226 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,639 watch a PlayStation six next year the helix? Would that 227 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,559 come next year as well or the year after that 228 00:11:34,639 --> 00:11:37,200 even And that just seems like you can't do that 229 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,759 right now. How is that going to possibly be? How 230 00:11:40,759 --> 00:11:43,200 are you gonna have the capability to actually pull that off? 231 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,720 It doesn't seem like it's possible right now. 232 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 2: I thought this through a lot today while I was 233 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:48,759 running errands, and I want to do a thought experiment 234 00:11:48,799 --> 00:11:52,840 with you, Jeff. Please gut reaction, not necessarily analyzing or 235 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:54,960 going off of an info or anything like that. Gut reaction. 236 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,879 How much do you think the PlayStation six costs? 237 00:11:58,799 --> 00:12:01,159 Speaker 1: I think the PlayStation six is going to be nine 238 00:12:01,159 --> 00:12:02,559 to ninety nine. I think they're going to try to 239 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,240 keep it on three. 240 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 2: Thousands, yeah, or like right there. So I was thinking about, 241 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,559 I think we need to like look at the PS 242 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,039 four Pro to try to like figure some of this 243 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,200 stuff out. The PS four Pro came in at four 244 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,080 hundred dollars went launched, which was the old MSRP of 245 00:12:18,159 --> 00:12:21,440 the PS four when that launched, so it took the 246 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,120 new MSRP Xbox One at the price. 247 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: That was the whole idea. 248 00:12:25,519 --> 00:12:29,799 Speaker 2: Exactly one x. The equivalent Pro console was a one 249 00:12:29,879 --> 00:12:33,360 hundred dollars premium over the MRP. Yeah, it came at 250 00:12:33,399 --> 00:12:36,279 five hundred dollars so, and that was a much more 251 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,559 powerful console though, so you got what you were paying 252 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,960 for with the extra one hundred over the original MSRP. 253 00:12:41,759 --> 00:12:45,879 When the psfive Pro came out, it was two hundred 254 00:12:45,919 --> 00:12:48,600 dollars more than the MSRP of the PS five. It 255 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:51,840 did not replace the PS five's MSRP. It wasn't even 256 00:12:51,879 --> 00:12:54,360 a little bit of a premium. It was two hundred 257 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,320 dollars more for the digital only addition. People often throw 258 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,080 around the price for just the base Pro equivalent experience, 259 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,000 it's seven to fifty. It was a two hundred and 260 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,039 fifty dollars premium for the version with the discard. 261 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: The Pro even come with the stand, so it's like 262 00:13:06,879 --> 00:13:08,559 more than that, it's like seven eighty. I think we'll 263 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:09,279 hire something. 264 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: I think it comes with, like ay stand, I forget 265 00:13:11,399 --> 00:13:13,159 it might be like the little plastic feet that you 266 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,679 get with the Slim nowadays. Sure, But the point I'm 267 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,480 getting at with all this is that, so the PS 268 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,320 five did not replace the PS four pros MSRP. They 269 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,600 went with a higher price for the base PS five. 270 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,480 PS five Pro went even higher. They didn't replace the 271 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:34,240 PS five. So PS five Pro is now nine hundred dollars. 272 00:13:35,039 --> 00:13:37,240 There's no way it's going to be less than that, 273 00:13:37,399 --> 00:13:40,000 Like there's they can't get it below that because it 274 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,440 needs to either replace or be above that. If it's 275 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,840 a more powerful console. I think, yeah, we are looking 276 00:13:44,879 --> 00:13:47,120 at a thousand dollars machine if they launched the next year, 277 00:13:47,159 --> 00:13:48,799 even if they launched them like two years at this. 278 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: Point, and like, I think, it's like it is even 279 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,519 more black and white than that. That A lot of times, 280 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,600 the whole point of these midgen consoles is to set 281 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,879 up the pricing of the next generation. It is to 282 00:14:00,039 --> 00:14:02,440 make sure that they can keep a higher price in 283 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,519 mind so that the anchor pricing, which is something that 284 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,399 the economists that work at all these companies think about 285 00:14:07,399 --> 00:14:09,679 a lot. Where's the anchor for the consumer? What are 286 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,639 they thinking about when they think of console? What numbers 287 00:14:11,639 --> 00:14:14,399 in their head? And these pro models help push that 288 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,840 price way higher so that they can't. They gives them 289 00:14:16,879 --> 00:14:19,080 wiggle room. Right if things were rosy right now and 290 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,840 everyone was making a ton of money and everything was cheap, 291 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,159 and they could launch a console at a reduced price, 292 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,679 they would they probably would try to do that. We 293 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,759 saw a little bit of a chicken game of chicken 294 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,080 between Xbox and PlayStation when it came to launching the 295 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,440 ps F five and the Xbox Series X. At the time, 296 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:38,200 they both were probably like, could we get away with 297 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,639 six hundred? They both held off to the last minute. 298 00:14:40,759 --> 00:14:42,720 They both settled on five hundred because no one wanted 299 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,320 to be the six hundred dollars console and the other 300 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,679 one be five hundred. It would have been rough. So 301 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:49,399 they did that. So there was some competition there that 302 00:14:49,559 --> 00:14:53,399 has definitely been you know, mitigated, if not eliminated. And 303 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,600 then there's all these other concerns and they would tell you, 304 00:14:56,679 --> 00:14:59,639 they would rank all of those other concerns way higher. 305 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,320 And so now that they give it, they've given themselves 306 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:05,600 that wiggle room with the PS five pro pricing, they're 307 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,639 gonna use it. You're right, No way that it will 308 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:09,879 be cheaper than nine hundred dollars. 309 00:15:10,279 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, like it it might, it might not be able 310 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,279 to be. Yeah, when like when the Xbox News came out, naturally, 311 00:15:17,399 --> 00:15:20,159 a bunch of people were like, oh fuck Xbox you know, 312 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,679 oh they Microsoft couldn't take a hit on this one, 313 00:15:22,759 --> 00:15:24,799 or a where like that. It's the same thing. It 314 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:26,600 drove me crazy when people are doing that with the 315 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,600 Steam Machine, saying like fu Valve, I hope this thing fails. 316 00:15:29,639 --> 00:15:32,000 I hope he show Valve. Oh Gabe, you know needs 317 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,840 to buy in our yacht or whatever. No, that's just 318 00:15:33,879 --> 00:15:36,480 how much the computer costs. Like that's just straight up 319 00:15:36,679 --> 00:15:39,120 component pricing, and they break like m. 320 00:15:39,799 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: I brought this up a long time ago. Can't remember 321 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,120 wh I originally heard it, but someone else said it, 322 00:15:43,159 --> 00:15:45,039 but it was like definitely something like yeah, that's right, 323 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:48,480 that's a computer. Sure it's running Linux, but you couldn't 324 00:15:48,519 --> 00:15:50,879 install Windows on it. But it runs Linux. It's a 325 00:15:50,879 --> 00:15:54,559 computer if it was cheaper they subsidized it. Businesses could 326 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,360 just buy those things up and make that their business 327 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,639 computer and not buy any games. And that is a 328 00:15:59,679 --> 00:16:02,279 harding for these companies to deal with. They would not 329 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,519 want to be the one subsidizing computers for a bunch 330 00:16:04,559 --> 00:16:05,519 of businesses. 331 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,159 Speaker 2: And also, like stevepoint on the Gamers Taxes video, there 332 00:16:09,159 --> 00:16:11,840 are person of the world where Valve is under scrutiny 333 00:16:11,919 --> 00:16:15,720 of being monopoly still, and so they need to start 334 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:18,799 speaking like, you know, we support open ecosystems, which they 335 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,000 genuinely do, you know, making a bunch of their stuff. 336 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: So their defense mechanism it's you know, there's it's twofold 337 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,120 there at Valve, and you know I kind of know this. 338 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,039 But also you could just tell by looking at them 339 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,679 that they do believe in open ecosystems and the lawyers 340 00:16:31,679 --> 00:16:34,320 they are like, you know, this helps us, This definitely 341 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,519 benefits us. For the problems that I'm looking at that 342 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,600 I think could be an issue, we need to say 343 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,000 we're open and actually mean it. And so yeah, they're. 344 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,559 Speaker 2: Still the capitalism baby. They still steal money, like they 345 00:16:43,559 --> 00:16:45,720 don't care how you give them the money, as long 346 00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:47,120 as you give them the money. So if they can 347 00:16:47,159 --> 00:16:49,600 get good pr and get your money, that's what they're 348 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,759 going to do. And that's frankly, how like most business 349 00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:54,639 issould just be yeah, just give us the money and 350 00:16:54,679 --> 00:16:56,960 we'll like make you happy in return. Win win for 351 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,559 everybody involved. But specifically, the reason I brought this up 352 00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:07,000 in relation to Xbox is because they need Xbox. Welcome 353 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:09,720 me here. Xbox needs to raise the price on these things. 354 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,599 While whereas like Microsoft could take the hit, Xbox can't 355 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:17,839 because the console cannot be subsidized, like by two hundred 356 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,720 dollars or something like that. Because if Microsoft sees that 357 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,720 Xbox doesn't exist anymore, these things need to be at least, 358 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,920 you know, moderately profitable or break even on the hardware 359 00:17:29,039 --> 00:17:32,759 somewhere around there. Otherwise the consoles do not exist. And 360 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:35,359 so that's why Xbox has to do this as a division, 361 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,680 despite the fact that parent company Microsoft is contributing to 362 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,559 the reason that the prices aren't going up. 363 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that's you know, of course, that's 364 00:17:44,039 --> 00:17:46,079 why this is all a clown show. It's it's just 365 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,319 a nightmare. It is completely like when you just look 366 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,119 at it on its face, it's so frustrating to have 367 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,480 to go through this byzantine way that it all works. 368 00:17:56,519 --> 00:17:59,599 But you're right, and we know that they aren't making 369 00:17:59,599 --> 00:18:02,039 any money their their profit margins at three percent is 370 00:18:02,039 --> 00:18:04,519 what they've flat out stated. They can't lie about that 371 00:18:04,559 --> 00:18:06,559 because that's stuff that could be taking this as lined 372 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:10,559 to investors. So three percent profit margin is nothing. It's 373 00:18:10,559 --> 00:18:12,680 not a profit margin at all, you know, especially as 374 00:18:12,839 --> 00:18:18,559 we see inflation is at four percent right now surrounding Yes, yes, exactly, Yeah, 375 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,200 and so they're making this little money as they possibly 376 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,920 can make. And yeah, and then again, people can make 377 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,960 all the points they want about Microsoft having all the money. 378 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,839 You're right, if Xbox is losing money, they will just 379 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,759 stop making those consoles, and they kind of want to 380 00:18:33,799 --> 00:18:36,880 keep making those consoles so they can justify some sort 381 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,519 of future for that business. And I don't know, I 382 00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:42,559 also think that Microsoft just wouldn't let them because eventually 383 00:18:42,599 --> 00:18:46,000 they might think about offloading Xbox or finding some way 384 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,079 for it to spend off on its own, and that 385 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,599 telling the story of it being an ecosystem is still 386 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,960 going to matter, and that'll still yeah. So but if that, hey, 387 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,440 if that means when you see these price increases happening, 388 00:18:57,839 --> 00:18:59,519 you go, fuck this, I don't want to be a 389 00:18:59,519 --> 00:19:01,839 part of that. That's fair. That's definitely how I'm feeling 390 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,720 a lot of times. Yes, I'm just like I'm gonna 391 00:19:04,759 --> 00:19:07,000 go find all these other old games I have laying 392 00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:09,279 around and just kind of enjoy the hobby side of 393 00:19:09,319 --> 00:19:10,839 this instead of the business side of it and trying 394 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,119 to keep up with the Joneses. And you know, it's 395 00:19:13,599 --> 00:19:16,240 a little bit of a benefit of the Giant bomb 396 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,759 job and we can kind of make playing video games 397 00:19:18,759 --> 00:19:21,799 whatever we want over there. That's nice, but also we 398 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:23,680 do want to try to keep up. People are interested 399 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,960 in new games. The demand is certainly there, and that 400 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,119 goes back to these companies are hoping they can play 401 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:31,920 on the demand that is already there. That will be 402 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,079 amped up by Grand Theft Auto six, which it did 403 00:19:35,079 --> 00:19:37,359 go up for pre orders today, and I bet there 404 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,640 was quite a few people who did show up for that. 405 00:19:40,079 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we have end the rundown, but 406 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,559 there's also a bunch of hullabaloo with that. Thanks for 407 00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:47,880 playing our thing as you did, though, Christian, Yeah, we 408 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,200 appreciate it, you yep. But yeah, so it's eighty dollars 409 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,640 and if you buy a physical copy, it's a code 410 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,200 in a box. 411 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,519 Speaker 3: Motherfuckers. 412 00:19:55,559 --> 00:19:59,839 Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm about to crash out because these fucking did 413 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:03,519 loser coping me like, oh, the game is too big 414 00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:05,559 to be in the disk, Like are you stupid? 415 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 3: They don't want you to own shit. That's that's the thing. 416 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,799 Speaker 4: They don't want you for the copy to be yours, 417 00:20:10,839 --> 00:20:12,920 to do whatever the fuck you want with it. They 418 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,839 don't want you to sell it again. They don't want 419 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,359 you to borrow it, to give it away. 420 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 3: They don't want about that. 421 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: It's not even like all day out the prevent leaks. Sure, 422 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,599 shit ask, it's about the second hand market. 423 00:20:25,079 --> 00:20:27,799 Speaker 2: Look, I never like to hand it to Activision, and 424 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,960 I don't want to do it here. But at least 425 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,119 when I bought that copy of Black Ops six, then 426 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,759 still black Ops O on my machine. At least it 427 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,599 was a disc. It didn't have shit on it, but 428 00:20:37,599 --> 00:20:40,160 I had a license for Black Ops six. So if 429 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,359 I want to sell that piece of shit because I'm 430 00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:45,480 sick of what did to my PS five, I can 431 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,960 go over to my local store and trade it and 432 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,039 get like out of fifteen bucks for it or whatever 433 00:20:50,039 --> 00:20:53,240 it's worth. Nowadays, you can't do that with GTAA six. 434 00:20:53,279 --> 00:20:55,799 You are going to be locked in with that code 435 00:20:56,039 --> 00:20:59,880 on your console account that God forbid you do it 436 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,119 bad with that and get banned because they're just out 437 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,960 eighty bucks or whatever. But holy moly, that is just 438 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,440 that is a stupid move by them, eight, I should say, 439 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,240 and in Genia's business move. 440 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: But us and the probably correct that they are the 441 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,440 ones that can get away with it. And oh yeah, 442 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,160 because because they'll just say, hey, what are you going 443 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,839 to do? Now? Play Grand Theft Auto six? And I 444 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,440 know a lot of people in our audience are going 445 00:21:22,519 --> 00:21:25,000 to say, yeah, I'm not gonna play this. And it's like, yeah, 446 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,759 there's a chance you probably weren't going to anyhow, And 447 00:21:28,759 --> 00:21:30,799 and we kind of are, we are arounding there in 448 00:21:30,839 --> 00:21:33,240 that situation. Yeah, Like the audience for that game is 449 00:21:33,279 --> 00:21:36,319 so so huge, and them throwing their weight around in 450 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,720 such a way that is obvious to anyone with eyes. 451 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,279 And then like also like the Ultimate Edition just seems 452 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:49,039 so stupid, Like this idea of the big differentiator being 453 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:52,720 there are five in world shops, in game shops that 454 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,559 you know, not for real money, just like the end 455 00:21:54,599 --> 00:21:57,720 game currency that you can go into but only if 456 00:21:57,759 --> 00:22:01,359 you have the ultimate addition. Feels like, man, that is 457 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,759 such a weird, fomo sort of driven decision that I 458 00:22:05,799 --> 00:22:06,960 don't know, it feels outdated. 459 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 2: Okay, you you don't play GTA as much as I do, 460 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:10,880 so I. 461 00:22:10,839 --> 00:22:13,319 Speaker 1: Know I've always yeah, I never cared about cared about 462 00:22:13,319 --> 00:22:13,880 the shops either. 463 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: Just looking at this, like, I haven't looked at this 464 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,359 list yet, I missed that on GMM ther day, This 465 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,880 to me reads as it is a cosmetic bundle and 466 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,799 they're just going to present it as in game shops. 467 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:27,519 Still kind of weird that you just like won't be 468 00:22:27,519 --> 00:22:31,759 able to enter the shops unless the war version that. 469 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,279 Speaker 1: Feels like a slightly like a dark pattern sort of 470 00:22:34,319 --> 00:22:37,480 thing is just like, yeah, you're going to be in 471 00:22:37,519 --> 00:22:39,519 that world and you're going to like walk up to 472 00:22:39,599 --> 00:22:41,720 it and there's gonna be a button where you can 473 00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:43,880 hit that to spend the extra twenty dollars or whatever, 474 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,240 and yeah, it's it's a weird way to do it. 475 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: It's it's like, it's not the end of the world. 476 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,079 That's like I said, as far as I can tell, 477 00:22:51,079 --> 00:22:54,759 it's just cosmetics. But even then, it's like it's a 478 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,880 it's a dark power way or present it like you said. 479 00:22:57,039 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: Even yeah, and even it still feels a little like antiquate, 480 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,759 where it's like, is this the way that you're gonna 481 00:23:01,799 --> 00:23:05,440 make people feel excited about your ultimate Edition? Your rock Star? Like, 482 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,960 don't you have some new ways of it? It's like, no, 483 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:08,519 they don't care. 484 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 4: That's not what they used to give you, like knuckle 485 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,279 dusters and some ship and your they used to give 486 00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:15,000 you weapons. 487 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: The rumor is that by December there will be a 488 00:23:20,039 --> 00:23:22,920 disc version on store shelves, and it's like yep, because 489 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,960 by then you are through the bulk of the people 490 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,640 that will want to have played this game and sell 491 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,680 it pretty quickly to get as much money back as 492 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,839 possible and honestly, and if they if they don't hit 493 00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:36,759 those numbers, they could always just push the disc back 494 00:23:36,799 --> 00:23:39,000 and just wait until they feel good about it. Because 495 00:23:39,079 --> 00:23:40,720 that sucks. That's what they're doing. 496 00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Sun, Why is always gaming? What is always us 497 00:23:48,599 --> 00:23:51,039 that we have to deal with this? Like if I 498 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:52,880 buy a Blu Ray with a movie, it comes with 499 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,400 the fucking movie and a code. 500 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 3: Sometimes like they give you both. 501 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: I know, they give you the movie and the code. 502 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 4: If you if I could go and buy like a 503 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:02,440 this got an on Musa and they still. 504 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 3: Come with the like even though netflick the movie. 505 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: I tell you, the movie industry looks at the video 506 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,000 game industry such envy for all the ways that they 507 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,519 are able to monetize. They talk about it constantly, like 508 00:24:14,759 --> 00:24:16,240 are there are there things we can do to be 509 00:24:16,279 --> 00:24:18,880 more like games? And it's like, man, when you make 510 00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:24,160 art and entertainment software, it creates so many opportunities to 511 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,839 to like nickel and dine people, and video game companies 512 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,119 have gotten very good. That is the business video games. 513 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,279 It's not making fun video games. It is making new 514 00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:36,519 ways to monetize people. And that's what we've been in 515 00:24:36,559 --> 00:24:38,000 for the last ten to fifteen years. 516 00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: Jeff, I'm actually asking I don't know this. Do you 517 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,759 know the story of movies anywhere? And how we got 518 00:24:43,759 --> 00:24:46,319 to that point because I thought I heard in passing 519 00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:48,960 that was always just like the movie industry, you realize, oh, 520 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,400 people just aren't spending, so we need to work together 521 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,680 and get people into buying movies again. 522 00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:56,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's like there was so much money 523 00:24:56,319 --> 00:24:59,279 made from DVDs. My understanding is like, yes, they all 524 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,880 kind of were like we need to, like you said, 525 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,400 work together. I think I think like even like Walmart 526 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,400 stepped in, it was like a big part of that. 527 00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:10,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like they bought Voodoo or something along 528 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,400 those lines. 529 00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:15,079 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I don't know exactly. I definitely don't 530 00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:16,519 know the details of how that happened. 531 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,079 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I think I think the cap at the 532 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,039 end of this whole discussion, these multiple topics that we've 533 00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:25,240 had about, like how much everything costs and everything like that, 534 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,000 y'all just don't buy stuff. Like at the end of 535 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:33,119 the day, like really stop and think, why do you 536 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,000 buy a game at launch? What is the point of 537 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,799 buying a game at launch? It's probably because in your 538 00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:39,759 online communities, everyone's talking about and everyone wants to be 539 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,839 up on a hot new thing. Just don't like that's 540 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,119 what your average person does. You know, here on the 541 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,319 Internet and our little bubbles, we all want to be 542 00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:49,680 part of the conversation, you know, like for you and me, Jeff, 543 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,799 it's part of our job nowadays, of course. But like 544 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,240 if it's just average shoe on the street just either 545 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:57,000 buys the game if they have the money, or they 546 00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,519 don't don't like it, maybe pick it up on Black 547 00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:05,799 Riders something I think. Create a library is insane. My 548 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,440 local library. My local library has prime for like that 549 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,400 came out six months ago. Like, you know, you find 550 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,480 other ways to do this stuff. Don't go don't give 551 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,440 into the fomo. It's so easy to be mad about 552 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,119 all this shit, and you know what you should in 553 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,160 relation to especially we have an other topic here that 554 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,680 we'll talk about, I believe, Yeah, we'll talk about that. 555 00:26:25,839 --> 00:26:27,799 There are things to actually be mad about. 556 00:26:28,079 --> 00:26:28,799 Speaker 1: But at some. 557 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: Point, you know, just just don't buy shit. Just be 558 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,920 okay with what you have. Be a patient gamer. You know, 559 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,039 there's like a whole subred for that and anything like that. 560 00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:40,119 Buy games when they're on sale, like use the hardware 561 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,400 you can't afford. That's why mobile game is better than 562 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,880 ever before. People won't don't want to spat thousand dollars 563 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,680 on console, So to just wait it out, play retro games, 564 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,359 play older Triple A modern games, and just do what 565 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,480 you can out there. Yep, exactly. 566 00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:55,799 Speaker 1: You know. I was like, is there like a way 567 00:26:55,839 --> 00:26:58,400 to like create a friend group that like buys a 568 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,240 copy of the game and shares it, and so you 569 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,519 can't do that with Grand Theft Auto. I thought about 570 00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:07,759 that motherfuckers. All right, let's see here. Yeah, Bunge announces 571 00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:11,319 layoffs as an acknowledge is Destiny Too fell short of 572 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:16,720 expectations the layoffs. There was a Chris Curry, I believe over. 573 00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:18,519 I think it was a game developer. I'm not sure. 574 00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:23,759 Actually now found a filing with the Washington State like 575 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,359 labor department that said three hundred over three hundred people 576 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,319 were being laid off, So we kind of got a 577 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,119 number there, and that that was always kind of in 578 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,759 the range of what I was hearing two hundred to 579 00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:35,599 four hundred, where it was just like they're going to 580 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,119 try to cut that studio in half because they aren't 581 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,319 making Destiny to anymore. They Marathon is not like taking 582 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,440 off in a way that sort of can replace like 583 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,839 that Destiny To and keep that that studio busy. They're 584 00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:52,119 not working on Destiny three, and they're not going to 585 00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:55,680 they like they said this this thing here, our next 586 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,559 projects are in the early incubation phase, and therefore we're 587 00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:03,960 gonna have to cut jobs. Now. The CEO of Bungie 588 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,359 did resign since I posted the story in the game 589 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,440 this Morning's thing, Christian, I believe that that is correct. 590 00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 3: Right, Yes, that's correct. 591 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was I've been busy NonStop today. But 592 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,440 I think that's right. Someone mentioned that, so like there's 593 00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:20,759 some accountability. But again they're getting their golden handcuffed and 594 00:28:20,799 --> 00:28:23,119 a lot of these situations. Is my camera broken? Cool? 595 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying not to laugh as we do. 596 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always it's always the best image that it 597 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,000 can pause on. I think my face is just naturally 598 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:30,519 that way. 599 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 3: Cool. 600 00:28:31,519 --> 00:28:36,079 Speaker 1: I just love I'm having great computer days, is what's happening. Yeah, 601 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,920 I'll try to fix that hare in a second. But 602 00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:42,759 Bungie is is in a weird spot. That's a studio 603 00:28:42,839 --> 00:28:45,480 that doesn't make a lot of sense in the current 604 00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:48,759 market because making games in the United States is hard. 605 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,440 The scale of the games that a company like Bungie 606 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:56,720 was going to make is astronomical, and Sony bulked at 607 00:28:56,839 --> 00:29:00,160 any sort of suggestion, like any like number that a 608 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,559 Bunchie was thrown around for Destiny three was sort of like, no, 609 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,119 we can't do that. And now everyone's sort of at 610 00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:08,480 a standstill. And the way we got here is the 611 00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:11,079 people that were running Bungee when they were getting acquired 612 00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:14,240 by Sony seemed to do everything they can to hide 613 00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:16,240 the fact that this was always going to happen. 614 00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:19,519 Speaker 2: M Like the studio was just always in trouble and 615 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:20,319 was always. 616 00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: A good studio just was like never it never like 617 00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:26,200 made sense on paper. It was always this this like 618 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:29,559 too big and you know, mismanaged is the way to 619 00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:29,839 put it. 620 00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:33,319 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because you know when I look at something 621 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:36,720 like this, I'm always like, okay, so, uh, c suite, 622 00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:40,279 where's your pay cut? Huh? Like what's happening there? Every 623 00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,480 time something like this happens, I always look at like 624 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,079 people at the top, all right, who's getting fired? Who's 625 00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:49,279 getting pay cuse? Well, oh, y'all, y'all ain't doing shit? Cool, wonderful, great, 626 00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,079 glad to see it. I saw some one of the 627 00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:55,359 major figures over there did like leave the company or whatever. 628 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,319 So it's like with Bungie, I don't want to like 629 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,240 stay too much and like get something wrong here because 630 00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:02,000 I don't follow Bungie. So a lot of this is 631 00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:05,160 like I'm he seeing together so much of the story 632 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,880 of this studio here and trying to figure out how 633 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,319 it all makes sense. And apparently it doesn't make sense 634 00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:14,039 to know that shit makes sense anymore. But I'm always 635 00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:17,319 curious of like how we got to the point of Marathon, 636 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,480 and like Marathon is not a bad game, but is 637 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,359 so clearly not what I think the vast majority of 638 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,000 people wanted from that, that studio, that company and everything 639 00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:32,880 like that, and so I'm curious how they settled on 640 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,279 that and how, you know, in a post Destiny New World, 641 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,599 that's how that's the next project that they landed on. 642 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,480 Here is to see like if or how much PlayStation 643 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,279 had to do with that, and like the live service push. 644 00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:47,960 I don't know about all that. I would like lean 645 00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:50,440 on you a little bit to like educate me a 646 00:30:50,519 --> 00:30:51,599 little bit, if you know more. 647 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,799 Speaker 1: Jeff, Yeah, I'm sorry. My computer's definitely dying as we're 648 00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:56,279 doing this. What's the question again. 649 00:30:58,759 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: How do we get Marathon? And we'll let us to 650 00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:01,200 this point. 651 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: Yes, So it's like it's definitely a situation where they 652 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,079 are they're trying to pitch things that that they can 653 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,519 that they can get through, and this is the one 654 00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:14,880 that they could present in such a way to like 655 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,759 the leadership and you know, Sony at the same time 656 00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:20,519 as they're like kind of working on this, as they're 657 00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:25,640 getting acquired to say, hey, this whole idea of extraction 658 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,119 shooters is blowing up. And if we become the Fortnite 659 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,119 of extraction shooters, here's what that could mean for us. 660 00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:35,359 This is the must and to make uh great my 661 00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:37,640 computer is just give me all kinds of crazy USBA 662 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:40,240 sounds now, Sorry. 663 00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:41,799 Speaker 4: Why don't we take a little break and then we 664 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,000 continue with the conversation. 665 00:31:43,119 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Ford, sure sounds good. We'll be right back. Okay, 666 00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:50,960 back from the technical hiccup. It's been it's been a 667 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,319 week shot oh man, oh yeah, yeah, so much, so 668 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,359 much troubleshooting. Man, that at PS four in the PSVR. 669 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,519 I know I was telling you, but every single step 670 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,400 if something could have gone wrong, something did go wrong. 671 00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:09,359 And that was after I was already frustrated because I 672 00:32:09,599 --> 00:32:12,599 got a magical drive for the PS two and I 673 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,880 just kind of like, I didn't want to go through 674 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,559 the process of setting that up myself. So I got 675 00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:19,279 something off ets and that that wasn't working, that was broken. 676 00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:21,200 That was troubleshooting with that. So I went from that 677 00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:23,319 into the PS four and then while I was setting 678 00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:26,160 out the PS four, I'm like, something's wrong because anytime 679 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,240 I kind of touched these USB cables on this computer, 680 00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:32,839 this camera shuts off and breaks obs and oh and 681 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,119 you know, it wasn't the camera. It wasn't the camera. 682 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,319 It was the Algado teleprompter monitor thing here that would 683 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,319 turn off and it would reset my windows or my monitors, 684 00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:44,119 so everything would just be all over the place. 685 00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:47,119 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, that always sucks with 686 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,160 a monitor disconnecttions and messes up everything. I hate that 687 00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:50,720 so much. 688 00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I was already super frustrated dealing with 689 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,680 other things that don't work, and I don't handle that 690 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,799 well anyhow. So it's been a lot of cortisol just 691 00:32:57,839 --> 00:32:59,680 flooding my brain for the last day and a half. 692 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,640 But we can get through the rest of this, okay. 693 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,759 So we were talking about let's see, like how Marathon 694 00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:07,799 happens and stuff like that. Yeah, it is. It just 695 00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:10,279 comes down to that was the thing that they could 696 00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:12,720 pitch to get the money they needed to make their 697 00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,960 next game. That is the thing that they thought sounded 698 00:33:16,079 --> 00:33:19,039 right to the people that were pulling the purse strings, 699 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:21,480 which was a combination of people at Bungie and Sony 700 00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:25,000 and when like and you know, because it was the 701 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,920 extractor shooter that was hot and no one really knew 702 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,119 it was games as a service game. Obviously a bunch 703 00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:30,319 of was going to be doing that, but that was 704 00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:34,160 still hot enough that they could, you know, fool people. 705 00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:36,400 And I think maybe the people that were really making 706 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,519 the game all along were like, look, this is not 707 00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:42,160 going to be the Fortnite of Extraction shooters. Like it's 708 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,960 got maybe a one percent chance of doing that, and 709 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,920 here we are. It's it's exactly where you could probably 710 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,200 have predicted this game would have ended up. But they weren't. 711 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,599 They weren't making that. Like the game. The studio that 712 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,039 was making that game was not set up to make 713 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,920 a game that just did all right. They were set 714 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,079 up to make the Fortnite of extraction shooters. And so 715 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,400 now here we are, and they're. 716 00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: Because of people off size of the studio as it was. 717 00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: Size, Yes, the cost of running that studio where it's at, 718 00:34:08,599 --> 00:34:10,719 and you know, they they I think they have a 719 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,039 lot of remote remote people. But still they pay very 720 00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:16,880 well and that's that's that's good, but they, uh, it's 721 00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:20,000 it's an expensive studio primarily when where you're at. 722 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, Destiny too, when you may you're the studio that 723 00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,679 made Destiny, and what'd you follow that up with Destiny 724 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,599 to which which is more of a two point zero 725 00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,960 but still okay, that that all makes sense, got it? 726 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,559 Speaker 1: Yep? Uh, all right, let's see here a couple of 727 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:38,400 other things. We were going to talk about the valves 728 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,280 Steam ossh it's out right, like, can you go get 729 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,960 the image now? I wasn't sure. I know they said, 730 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,199 leave you can. Yes, So you need to have an 731 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:48,880 AMD CPU or GPUU. 732 00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:51,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, Steam Us three point eight is out now there 733 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:51,360 you go. 734 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, So yeah, yeah, you need an AMD GPU. 735 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,480 They said they're working with Nvidia to get the thing, 736 00:34:57,559 --> 00:35:01,480 the drivers support all in place by next year, but 737 00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:04,400 that's you know, that's still ways off. They're already working 738 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,159 with them AMD because that is their partner for the 739 00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:08,280 Steam Machine, so that stuff is ready to go. So 740 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,519 you could build your own Steam machine right now. And 741 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,239 that is exciting, I think because Linux as a true 742 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,880 gaming platform continuing to grow is important for the long 743 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,639 term survival of the hobby as an alternative to Windows. 744 00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:25,840 You know, we look at PC gaming as a sort 745 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,960 of a safe place from the consoles. But with the 746 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,880 way Windows is going, with Microsoft's ability to actually make 747 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,880 a product that is not sort of foundationally rotten due 748 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,159 to their their their vibe coding. That is not really 749 00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:45,119 yet we can't really rely on that. Actually long term 750 00:35:45,559 --> 00:35:49,039 Linux be an open source that there is a huge 751 00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:51,800 opportunity to sort of preserve gaming long term that way, 752 00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:55,880 and Valve at the very least is truly pushing that 753 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,000 they want. It's good for them, obviously what you talked 754 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,000 about it, you said is capitalism. They want the money. 755 00:36:00,039 --> 00:36:03,159 It's good for them, but they are aligned at the 756 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,079 very least with kind of what is in the best 757 00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:08,599 interest of gaming. Again, long term, this is this is 758 00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:09,119 pretty neat. 759 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 2: This is neat, and this is cool that First of all, 760 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,840 it's funny that they positioned it on like the FAQ 761 00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:18,400 for the Steam machine. They were like, well, what do 762 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,719 I do if I can't get into the lottery or 763 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,119 if I don't w in the lottery to buy this thing. Well, 764 00:36:23,159 --> 00:36:25,840 we got good news for you. You can build your own. 765 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,039 So a couple of things here. First of all, yes, 766 00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:32,039 we do need to start moving towards Linux. And I 767 00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:34,719 think people hear that and they're like, oh, I'm not 768 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,360 doing that. That's scary, that's like command line stuff and everything. 769 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,360 Maybe I'm doing my dam impression here. Who can say, 770 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,599 but people hear Linux and they get scared, y'all. I 771 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,079 swear as long as you pick a modern distribution that 772 00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:50,639 everybody talks about, whether it be Ubuntu, Fedora, Cashi, Bazite, 773 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,960 you know those terms you may have heard, it is 774 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,320 legitimately pretty straightforward nowadays. Like as long as you don't 775 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,719 go super far off the being path, it actually is 776 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,000 very easy set up. Says if you were setting up 777 00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:04,519 Windows on the gaming pc you sat for yourself. You're 778 00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:07,039 not the comp person that build your own gaming pc, Well, 779 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,360 guess what, You're in the same situation because you were, 780 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,599 You're the person probably what boss steam machine? The same 781 00:37:13,679 --> 00:37:16,679 same situation. But if you're if you're a diaire, then 782 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,239 we are at the point that you can you can 783 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,559 start using links because it has recent maturity and is 784 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,880 user friendly enough that you don't need to wait into 785 00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:28,679 command line for a bunch of stuff like links. Mostly 786 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,960 links distributions have an app store, for example, yes, like that. 787 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,079 Speaker 1: The one, the one that is Steamulus will have that 788 00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:36,920 one that has the discovery or I can't remember what 789 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:37,199 it's called. 790 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, the discovery is the standard for like Fedora based ones. 791 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,320 And then there's a different. 792 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: Arch Linx or whatever. 793 00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Arch doesn't really have one, which is the problem 794 00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:47,880 with Like, that's my problem with cashios, which is based 795 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,159 on ours. But yeah, there's a there's a whole bunch 796 00:37:50,159 --> 00:37:52,599 of stuff there. But yeah, chat like if you're curious 797 00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:55,719 saying you're like, I don't know which distribution pick Fedora 798 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,800 or Bass or cash it's simple as so sorry, a 799 00:37:58,840 --> 00:37:59,400 lot of people. 800 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,039 Speaker 1: Are gonna be like, like the writer here in chows, 801 00:38:02,159 --> 00:38:03,800 I don't know what you're even talking about. Just as 802 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,719 a reminder, Linux is a kernel. It's basically just a 803 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,840 way for a system to tell the parts of a 804 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,719 computer what to do. And then when Sean says distributions, 805 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,599 he's talking about the basic operating systems built on top 806 00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:17,960 of those kernels that a bunch of teams have been 807 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,000 making for a very long time now. And there's always 808 00:38:21,039 --> 00:38:24,159 forks and new ones and stuff like that. But usually 809 00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:26,000 what you can do is google like the best distribution 810 00:38:26,119 --> 00:38:27,320 right now, and you're going to find a lot of 811 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:28,960 the answer Shun's talking about, and that will take you 812 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:29,599 in the right direction. 813 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 2: Also, this get that's literally proving the point of why 814 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,119 I just said, you're probably not the count person who 815 00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:36,519 built your own PC and installed Windows from strategy either, 816 00:38:36,679 --> 00:38:39,239 So right, probably not the target audience for his stuff. 817 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,960 But that's that's why I'm getting at here, is that, like, 818 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,119 if you are the count person who is a diy er, 819 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,519 you would have built your own PC, you would have 820 00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:50,239 installed Windows. It's easy enough to download one of the 821 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,719 major distributions that you hear all your teching gaming podcasts 822 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,039 talking about. You can download Fedora or Baz. I'd install 823 00:38:57,079 --> 00:39:00,400 it on there instead. And now stem Os is also 824 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,840 an option for you if you want them very console like, 825 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,880 if you want basically make your own Steam machine. That's 826 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,199 what Valve is doing here. They're saying, like yes, because 827 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,039 like you know, Lynx is open source, it's just all 828 00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:14,280 branches of the same thing. It's all branching off of 829 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,079 that same Lynx kernel slash Core. Then yeah, we can 830 00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:19,960 put this outpring system out there so you can make 831 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,719 your own doing is very cool, and I think you 832 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,360 know the I I was trying Lynx for a while there, 833 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,599 and I just I switched back to using Windows on 834 00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:31,519 a daily basis because I needed to use the Adobe 835 00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:34,239 Sweet for work. But guess what, I have a project 836 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,679 at work back candy and finish because the Adobe sweet 837 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,320 fucking breaks every time I try a headit that video, 838 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,159 so I need to learn Da Vinci anyway, So I 839 00:39:41,199 --> 00:39:43,280 guess I'm might as well just go back our a 840 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,239 lynx L that's stopping me at this point. 841 00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 3: I think, I think for for a long while, we're 842 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,400 gonna have dual Boon. You know, we're going to be 843 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,800 that the people. 844 00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 4: That had both of them, and we'll like eventually go 845 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,480 into Migrate. 846 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 3: I think, just for a while, like the future. 847 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, for covering specific games as part of my job, 848 00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:02,920 I'm going to need a Windows insulation on my secondary drive. 849 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,320 I have two drives in here. I pulled the SSD 850 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,960 from my last machine and put in here as a 851 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,719 secondary drive, so I can do a boot and that's 852 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,039 gonna be nice. But yeah, I am really excited about 853 00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:16,840 the release of steam Less. Officially, everyone can install that 854 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,159 if they want to make their own like living room 855 00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:22,880 console style PC, the only requirement being right now, you 856 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,880 need an AMDGPU. By the way. That's that's because and 857 00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:29,119 Vidia sucks, and Vividia just fucking sucks. 858 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: They they suck. They do not care that they suck, 859 00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:33,559 and that's why they will continue to suck. I'd like 860 00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:35,599 this idea that they're gonna have ready by twenty twenty seven. 861 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,360 Don't don't fucking count on it. 862 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,679 Speaker 2: Don't count See like they might Valve might bundle in 863 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,119 the open source and video drivers which are just worse 864 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,880 than the proprietary ones that Nvidia like kind of sort 865 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,519 of works with the Linux community to put out, and 866 00:40:51,639 --> 00:40:53,920 Vida doesn't actually give a shit. That's why all this 867 00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:57,440 Linx stuff tends to be AMD based, because AMD actually 868 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,000 does open sourcer stuff and like put open source drives 869 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,639 that are good and like up to snuffing and sometimes 870 00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:05,239 better than their Windows drivers. So that's why, like the 871 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,000 requirement is there for Steam oss now you need an 872 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,920 a md GPU in your machine. 873 00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 4: We need to trick and media I into thinking that 874 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,880 the thing is like a I related, so they're gonna 875 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:15,960 like dive. 876 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: Head on, get excited about it. 877 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you saw the CEO in like there's a billion 878 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,079 people in planet Earth that like no other more than that, 879 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,440 but he meant like a yeah. 880 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 2: Those are he cares about, cares about people? 881 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 1: What he cares about, Yeah, exactly the ones that might 882 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,960 and really doesn't even care about them anymore. 883 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: Like I do. Watch gamers in Nexus, and you know, 884 00:41:36,039 --> 00:41:38,679 Steve can be a little prickly sometimes, but my favorite 885 00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:41,559 bit is just him donking on Jensen every single opportunity 886 00:41:41,639 --> 00:41:43,000 gets yep, so good. 887 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,519 Speaker 1: He's very good at it. And yeah, exactly transferter to 888 00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:48,480 Crub explained Linx better than anyone in my whole three 889 00:41:48,519 --> 00:41:50,559 years doing a comp side agree ten years ago. There's 890 00:41:50,599 --> 00:41:52,920 a secret to that. I'm stupid, So I have to 891 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,360 explain these things to myself in like a way that's 892 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,480 like I'm five years old, and then when I can, 893 00:41:57,559 --> 00:41:59,920 I could repeat that at the very least. That's the trick. 894 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,840 All right. Let's see here. Starfox reviews are out at 895 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,199 eighty three, eighty two. I think I might have I 896 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,559 think it's in that range right now. On Open Critic, Sean, 897 00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:11,559 if you had a chance to play it, I know 898 00:42:11,639 --> 00:42:13,719 you're a star fucks guy. 899 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 2: Oh Doggie came out today? 900 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,519 Speaker 1: Yeah I wasn't sure, Like it was like it came 901 00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:19,280 out last night, if you were going to stay up 902 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,000 and stuff like that. 903 00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't buy digital because I'm not a sucker. 904 00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: That's right. Okay, that's right, that's true. Yeah, you know. 905 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:31,679 Speaker 2: Codea box motherfucker. Yeah, is that no on this one, 906 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,360 this one copy sitting over there. I arrived a couple 907 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:34,880 hours ago. 908 00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, okay, cool, Well you've had a chance to 909 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,280 see a lot of stuff. Where are you at with 910 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,559 you excited? It is just like you're kind of happy, 911 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,280 like it is exactly what it is or what it is? 912 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,199 Speaker 2: What it is like they remade star Fox sixty four again, 913 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,639 what the fucking do? Like? Uh? This this project always 914 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,760 annoyed me because like it's the Starfox cycle, you know, 915 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,199 they're like, true, they remake it. It doesn't sell well though, 916 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,840 so they try something wild that doesn't sell well enough, 917 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,000 so then it just goes into hibernation and then they 918 00:43:05,039 --> 00:43:10,039 remake it again, and then uh, just pisser you off 919 00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:12,880 the pot. Either like give us like the big triple 920 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,199 a Star Fox game with like a fresh new idea, 921 00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:17,639 or give us a small indie one. I would have 922 00:43:17,679 --> 00:43:20,039 loved a cadence of high roll style. You partner with 923 00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:23,400 the company who knows what they're doing, who like the 924 00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:26,559 studio that's doing, Like I forget what it is. It's 925 00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:28,960 like wild Blue or something like that on Steam and 926 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,039 sounds right, Yeah, partner with a studio like that to 927 00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:34,599 do like a smaller one instead that is just like 928 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,039 long because the studio wants to make a bunch of 929 00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:42,000 levels while Blue skies there you go, like, I will 930 00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:45,159 love to see that instead of a very pretty version 931 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,000 of star Fox sixty four, which it sounds like from 932 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,920 all our reviews, including mics over on giant bomb dot com. 933 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,440 That's that's what it is. It's a pretty version of 934 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,239 star Fox sixty four. Yeah, which is you could argue 935 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,920 is the arcade spirit, you know, like games that now 936 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,039 nowadays carry the arcade spirit, like fighting games and racing games. 937 00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:05,440 Mostly what do they mostly have going for them? For 938 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,719 the normies? They look really good because the gameplay is 939 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,320 still like a little honed in and not like super 940 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,159 broad that they can be very pretty games. I guess 941 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,039 with star Fucks, I can only assume that's the that's 942 00:44:17,079 --> 00:44:20,440 the ideology they had making this of like well kind 943 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,880 of simple arcadie gameplay, so we'll make it really pretty, 944 00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:25,119 all right, all right? 945 00:44:25,199 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. When I'm playing it, I'm having a great time. 946 00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:30,719 Like I'm just like this is this is awesome. It 947 00:44:31,159 --> 00:44:34,440 does look great. I like all the new character bits, 948 00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:38,119 you know, the even the in between segments they drag 949 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,800 the second time, but you just skip them. But the 950 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,960 first time that you see one, you're like, oh man, 951 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,599 it's it's really addressing, like the fact that I accomplished 952 00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:46,599 that last mission and now I have an option to 953 00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:48,480 go to these two stages and they did. They do 954 00:44:48,519 --> 00:44:51,320 a really good job of setting that stuff up. Yeah, 955 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,840 I'm enjoying myself. It's it's the safest thing they could 956 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,039 have done, which everyone kind of knew when this thing 957 00:44:57,079 --> 00:44:59,599 was announced. It's like, oh, that's really safe. I think 958 00:44:59,639 --> 00:45:02,960 part of it has always been since this got announced, 959 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,519 understanding that part of the rumor is there is another 960 00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:10,320 Star Fox project coming that should be even bigger, right, 961 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,039 and so Okay, Well, I hope, I hope that's true. 962 00:45:12,039 --> 00:45:13,920 I hope that pans out, and I hope this all 963 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,639 kind of works out. And that's the one that's like, 964 00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:18,199 that is the two of the one two punch of 965 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,960 let's re establish Starfucks. Really, I guess with the Mario movie, 966 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,320 then this, and then followup with something even bigger to 967 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,480 see if we can re establish Starfucks as as something 968 00:45:28,519 --> 00:45:30,480 that could be a triple A game. I hope they can. 969 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,199 But as far as this is concerned, I think most 970 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,000 people probably already know if they want this game, and 971 00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:39,199 it helps that it's a little bit discanted. It's like 972 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,000 fifty sixty right, fifty digital sixty years. 973 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, or like you know, Amazon, and I believe the 974 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,000 outlets are price matching the. 975 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,079 Speaker 1: Amazon and Walmart. 976 00:45:48,159 --> 00:45:50,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because like I already on Amazon just a 977 00:45:50,639 --> 00:45:53,639 few days ago. Actually I almost didn't get the pre 978 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,800 order in time. But yeah, it was fifty dollars for 979 00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,960 a physical copy. And yeah, I sure, I guess because 980 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,039 like theoretically for a switch to game, that's twenty dollars discounted. 981 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,119 I would say that's even still maybe a bit much 982 00:46:09,159 --> 00:46:11,880 for just a really pretty version of star Fox sixty four. 983 00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:15,159 But you know, whoever, I'm a sucker. I bought it 984 00:46:15,159 --> 00:46:17,199 because I'm a huge star Fox fan. I was always 985 00:46:17,199 --> 00:46:19,239 gonna buy it, Like you said, I'm a person who 986 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,280 knew that I was gonna buy it either way, even 987 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,960 if it's even if this star Fox isn't the star 988 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,679 Fox I want, and it is still Starfox, I'm sure 989 00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:28,079 I'm gonna play it. I'm gonna have a great time 990 00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,239 because it is still star Fox sixty four underneath for 991 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,199 the most part, you know, in general, So I'm sure 992 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,760 I'll have a great time with this weekend. 993 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,440 Speaker 1: Retroid Pocket Nova got announced. But's goh sean, this seems 994 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,360 like it seems like my beer thing. 995 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 2: Huh that's all right, yeah, literally at this baby. Read 996 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,599 those specs for me, Jeff. 997 00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 1: Four x three nine sixty p o led screen. Okay, 998 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,119 that sounds awesome. Powered by a Qualcomm snap Dragon G 999 00:46:55,199 --> 00:46:58,800 two variant. That's pretty powerful. Actually, I'm two hundred and 1000 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,960 thirty dollars, so it better be power pwerful, but it is. 1001 00:47:01,079 --> 00:47:03,599 That's a good that's a good processor. Eight gigabytes of 1002 00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:06,199 RAM and twelve gigabytes of storage. There is a two 1003 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,119 hundred and sixty nine dollars variant that has twelve gigabytes 1004 00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:11,400 of RAM, which, yeah. 1005 00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:13,199 Speaker 2: I d eight gigabytes of storage. To be clear, you 1006 00:47:13,199 --> 00:47:14,719 said you said twelve gigabytes of story. 1007 00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. One hundred and twenty gigbytes, thank you. Yes, 1008 00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:19,920 twelve gigabytes of RAM and that's two seventy. I would 1009 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,239 probably go with that one. That twelve gigabytes will help 1010 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,360 out quite a bit. It comes to a bunch of 1011 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,679 different variants. It looks really really slick. Oh led screen 1012 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,159 on this thing sounds awesome. 1013 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, this so this is it, Like this is I 1014 00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:36,480 think as a RUSSA retro game Core likes to say, 1015 00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:39,039 I think this is the end game handheld for this 1016 00:47:39,079 --> 00:47:42,760 specific scenario because Retroid they kind of messed up with 1017 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,119 the Mini, and like I was even saying the other day, 1018 00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:47,800 I said on stream, I was kicking myself for not 1019 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,360 getting a Pocket Retro Pocket Mini because now it's discontinued 1020 00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:54,800 and I can't get that that like four infactor that 1021 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,639 I want that like compacked but with like a four 1022 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,199 x three O lead screen which is like a d pen, 1023 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,079 buns and optional analog sticks. And then they go in 1024 00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:06,360 Now it's the Pocket Nova, and I'm stoked. Apparently it 1025 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,000 goes up for pre order tomorrow night. I think it 1026 00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:11,519 was like at eight pm Eastern something like that. They're 1027 00:48:11,559 --> 00:48:14,719 gonna push it live for pre ordering. But by the way, 1028 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,679 E gigs of ram, that's enough for like what the 1029 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,639 system is designed for. I would go at the a 1030 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,639 gig ram version for two thirty because that that's enough. 1031 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,119 Speaker 1: For It's just not that much more for twelve gigabytes. 1032 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,000 When I look at these prices, I guess it's it's 1033 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:27,719 forty bucks. 1034 00:48:28,159 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 2: It's forty bucks, But really that's only if you're doing 1035 00:48:31,119 --> 00:48:34,119 like PC on Android stuff, because that's the thing. Now, everybody, 1036 00:48:34,159 --> 00:48:36,679 if you didn't know you can emulate or not emulate, 1037 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,920 you wait, let me get this right. No, it is emulation. 1038 00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:43,280 Speaker 1: It's simulation. It's you know, it's through the Proton layers 1039 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:43,639 and stuff. 1040 00:48:43,639 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 2: Well, because remember, like because I was trying to get 1041 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,760 this right, because Valve was very insistent on this when 1042 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,880 they announce the Steam frame. If you when you do 1043 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:57,400 Windows to Linux through Proton, that's translation. But X eighty 1044 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:01,079 six to ARM is actually emulation. So yeah, this would 1045 00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:05,239 be PC emulated on Android. The point is the twelve 1046 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,239 gig ram is if you're doing PC stuff or Android 1047 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,559 gaming stuff. But the eight gigs of ram would be 1048 00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:12,719 enough for just like if you want to go all 1049 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,039 the way up to like game Cube and PS two, 1050 00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:17,679 even my retro Pocket Classic, that little game Boy Sale 1051 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:18,920 one does PS two just fine. 1052 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,199 Speaker 1: So like, yeah, the cheaper one encouraging. Yeah, PS two 1053 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,880 is one of the one I was thinking of. Like yeah. 1054 00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:26,880 The thing is I do always go for the bigger models. 1055 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,159 So it's like, yeah, I've got my PS two and 1056 00:49:28,159 --> 00:49:30,039 it's running great, And that's because the twel gigabytes RAM 1057 00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:32,000 that's encouraging to hear. Eight gigabytes is good enough for that. 1058 00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be good. Like if you just want to 1059 00:49:34,039 --> 00:49:36,280 do emulation er but you can't get the cheaper one. 1060 00:49:36,519 --> 00:49:38,920 I think it looks fantastic. That nine to sixty P 1061 00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:43,079 screen means that four ADP content scales twice up to it, 1062 00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:45,440 and then two forty P scales four times. That's why 1063 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,239 I went with that resolution. OLED is gonna look great. 1064 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,320 There's a meme in the community where like they mess 1065 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,559 up the screen so badly that the CEO had like 1066 00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:56,039 mortgaged his house to like pay for a new screen, 1067 00:49:56,119 --> 00:49:59,480 and that whole chain of events like led us to 1068 00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:01,440 this hand and tell then that's why I point it 1069 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,360 in here. We needed we need some lighthearts, and the 1070 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,320 news segment on that was very, very dire today, Jeff, 1071 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,679 I just want to talk about my sicko stuff. I'm 1072 00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:11,760 excited to preorder this and then play all my retro 1073 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,679 games on it and get retro achievements. 1074 00:50:14,119 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that resolution is like when I do 1075 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,800 see that's okay, and I can justify it to myself, 1076 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,400 like I you know, I've got the analog pocket and 1077 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,599 all these other things. It's like, yeah, the analog pocket's 1078 00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:26,519 really great for game Boy and that stuff, that everything 1079 00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:29,199 scales perfectly for that. And really it's just, you know, 1080 00:50:29,199 --> 00:50:31,360 it's me again, me talking myself into getting another one 1081 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,840 of these. I don't usually notice the difference. The interpolation 1082 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,000 a lot of times is good enough for me. But man, 1083 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,639 it's always nice to just have that perfect upscaling for 1084 00:50:40,679 --> 00:50:42,920 a lot of these consoles, especially on a four x 1085 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,760 three screen like this, that would be great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1086 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,039 we'll see. I'm looking forward to seeing like retro game 1087 00:50:50,039 --> 00:50:52,840 course a coverage of this and everyone else getting their 1088 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,760 hands on it, and maybe we'll try to get one 1089 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,079 ourselves and we'll buy one and cover it here. We'll see. Uh, okay, 1090 00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:00,559 here's what we're doing. We're going to make a break 1091 00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:02,039 and then when we come back. Sean, I want you 1092 00:51:02,079 --> 00:51:04,159 to tell me about your experience with the superstation. It's 1093 00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:05,960 a little bit of your stream. I kind of wanted 1094 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,440 to have you just tell me, like what that's been. Like, 1095 00:51:07,639 --> 00:51:09,320 I have mine here and I've been playing with it 1096 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:10,760 here and there, but I haven't touched it in a 1097 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,760 minute kind of I know you've got it recently, we'll 1098 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:18,119 talk about that right after this. All right, we're back. 1099 00:51:18,199 --> 00:51:20,639 I'm gonna ask Sean about the superstation here in a second. First, 1100 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,559 let's do those super chats. Sean, what's happening over there 1101 00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:24,559 in super chat Land. 1102 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's see. First, up was from James Pies 1103 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,920 for two hundred and twenty nine dollars. I got my 1104 00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:35,199 Series S as a game pass time killer during the 1105 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:40,679 COVID days and PS fives were still scarce six years ago. Crazy, Well, 1106 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,119 GTA six bail them out. 1107 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,599 Speaker 1: It's not gonna like bail anyone out, but it will 1108 00:51:46,599 --> 00:51:50,000 be like it will help them raise the price and 1109 00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:53,400 still probably sell the same amount of Xboxes, Like they'll 1110 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,880 they'll be able to get away with a little bit more. 1111 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:55,760 It will buy them time. 1112 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did see that, like maybe they're maybe they're 1113 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,719 pulling outpe at least over at Xbox that the Series 1114 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,960 S is still like appealing because I noticed at the 1115 00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:08,119 end of their press release that they emphasize and remember 1116 00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,719 the Xbox Series S is still a value conscious way 1117 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,119 to play all the new games, including Call of Duty 1118 00:52:13,159 --> 00:52:16,679 and FIFA and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right Xbox. 1119 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,519 Speaker 1: Real quick, did you see that PlayStation had that blog 1120 00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:24,000 post about Grand Theft Auto six being best played on 1121 00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:26,159 a PlayStation five or whatever, and then they had to 1122 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,480 they removed that. They removed references to the best place 1123 00:52:29,519 --> 00:52:32,400 to play, and it's I wonder if that's just not 1124 00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:35,320 language that Rockstar agreed to as part of their co 1125 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,159 marketing deal. If there's something more to that. Maybe Microsoft 1126 00:52:38,199 --> 00:52:40,719 is like, you don't fucking know that, you can't say that, 1127 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,000 and we'll you know, I don't know, that's weird. 1128 00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 2: I wonder. Yeah, PlayStation marketing sort of just added that offhandedly, 1129 00:52:47,639 --> 00:52:50,039 and rock Starry S I was like, we don't. We 1130 00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:52,320 don't want to, like imply there's a marketing deal where 1131 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,760 there may not be one until you give us money. 1132 00:52:55,039 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there. I think there is a marketing deal, 1133 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,920 and I think it's you. But I think it just 1134 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,800 covers stuff like we'll make a big deal about the 1135 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,039 dual sense features, like we'll support the dual sense and 1136 00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:05,679 that's that stuff like and you could say that, but 1137 00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:07,760 do not then apply that that makes it the best 1138 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,239 place to play, which I think is what that blog 1139 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:09,880 post was doing. 1140 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 2: Chad is saying that they added it back it was 1141 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,079 just because they had. 1142 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,119 Speaker 1: An old logo Okay, all right, cool, thanks everybody. I 1143 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,000 appreciate that. 1144 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 2: There you go. All right. Next super chat here is 1145 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,320 from Lex Luddy. Thank god. I don't rely on the 1146 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,400 game's biz for work. 1147 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what a nightmare time to try to 1148 00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:32,159 get a job in anything. But like, like where do 1149 00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:33,599 you go in this space? So like you were someone 1150 00:53:33,639 --> 00:53:37,159 that like did train to working here one way or 1151 00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:39,119 the other, and it's like, well, the media is fucked, 1152 00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:41,159 so I can go work on the development side. Oh 1153 00:53:41,199 --> 00:53:43,840 my god, no I can't. And you know it's not 1154 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,679 like comms and public relations are any better. It's it's 1155 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:48,360 bad out there. 1156 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's bad across the board. I feel for you. 1157 00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:55,840 Baba is me sixty four says I already own a 1158 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,960 nice PC connected to a monitor and all the consoles. 1159 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,719 Did I click by if I'm selected to order a 1160 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:07,800 Steam machine, I'm currently sixty forty against. 1161 00:54:07,159 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I mean that's a 1162 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,079 personal decision. It's like you get one and then you 1163 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,760 are willing to like sell it at cost to a 1164 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,280 friend that really does need one. I mean that'd be 1165 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,920 a cool move, that'd be cool, Like, yeah, but if 1166 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,719 you're not going to do that, then don't worry about it. 1167 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,800 Speaker 2: I would say, I would say, do you live an 1168 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,000 apartment buying chance? Is your PC in the same room 1169 00:54:30,039 --> 00:54:33,400 as a TV? Buying a chance? Because hey, a long 1170 00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:36,480 thick gauge HDMI cable on Amazon. I was like thirty 1171 00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:38,599 bucks just tossing that one out there. 1172 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 1: And then you just you get a Steam controller in 1173 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,679 twenty twenty seven or whatever it is. You get it, 1174 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,199 you set it up so you can use Steam Big 1175 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,360 Picture mode, and then basically you're halfway there to having 1176 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,079 a Steam machine. 1177 00:54:49,159 --> 00:54:51,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there are cheaper ways to, like, if you 1178 00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:54,800 already have a nice PC, there's cheaper ways to this. 1179 00:54:55,079 --> 00:54:57,920 I personally like to do PARSEK streaming because like you 1180 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,599 and Parsec within your home network, it's extremely high quality. 1181 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's really good. Yes. 1182 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,559 Speaker 2: So yeah, you just like plug in up old laptop 1183 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,920 or something else that's bringing a Parsec app to your 1184 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,800 TV and you also stream that way. So there's other options. 1185 00:55:12,039 --> 00:55:14,039 I'm not sure you need a Steam machine if you 1186 00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:15,880 have like everything else that you need already. 1187 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,360 Speaker 1: And when I go to Steam and I like going home, 1188 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,639 like a Steam machine is not even like I'm scrolling down. 1189 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,119 I don't. I don't even like see it like they're 1190 00:55:26,159 --> 00:55:28,880 not to me. 1191 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:30,360 Speaker 2: I thought the lottery ended? 1192 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,519 Speaker 1: Is that okay, Yeah, that's probably what that is. I 1193 00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:36,480 was like going to get the lottery. Yeah, there's a 1194 00:55:36,519 --> 00:55:38,559 weight list now, Okay, that's probably what it is. 1195 00:55:38,639 --> 00:55:40,280 Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. That's yeah, they're probably just de 1196 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,239 emphasizing it then. 1197 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. 1198 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 2: Next is from dat boy Jerry. Are you gonna quote 1199 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,320 unquote fix Gershman's top ten NYS list? 1200 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,880 Speaker 1: Yes, we'll do that. That's fun. Uh yeah, I'll talk 1201 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,280 to Mike about it. 1202 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 2: It he'll do it. I have enough people on the 1203 00:55:59,000 --> 00:55:59,800 airnet who hate me. 1204 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: I think Mike was pretty happy with his list because 1205 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,880 Mega Man Uh. I think he had Mega Man three 1206 00:56:07,039 --> 00:56:08,880 really high, or maybe he did have Mega Man two higher. 1207 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:09,159 I can't. 1208 00:56:09,199 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 4: I think is mayomn two Yeah that he hud super high. 1209 00:56:11,599 --> 00:56:16,760 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean he's still pretty yeah, yeah, exactly. So Yeah, 1210 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,639 we'll see. I think mostly I'm going to be on 1211 00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:21,760 board with what he said, especially for his top ten. 1212 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,960 There's some games that I think he underrated, for sure, 1213 00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:26,360 but those are the ones that, like, some people just 1214 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,280 have an affinity for and some people don't. Okay, he 1215 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,480 was right about ryegar Reygar. I played because I saw 1216 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,760 it high on his list last summer Boy that game 1217 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,000 rules Okay? 1218 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:41,639 Speaker 2: From Zombie porin where is Grubb's final Fantasy fifteen VR 1219 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,239 fishing stream from earlier today? That's honestly the best work 1220 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:49,719 Jefferson Grubbler has done since joining Giant Bomb the sake 1221 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,480 of SEO, I all enlisted it because I don't want 1222 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,559 people searching for the actual stream, because we're doing an 1223 00:56:55,639 --> 00:56:58,599 actual one tomorrow now Jeff has it up and running 1224 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,239 and hopefully his PC to th explode. So I just 1225 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,159 wanted to make sure there was only one listed. 1226 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,719 Speaker 1: Man when that. When I got the HDCP thing, I 1227 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,119 was just like, I'm in for a night, and I 1228 00:57:09,159 --> 00:57:11,239 was right. It got wayward, Like I'm like, look, I 1229 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,599 wrote a paragraph of all the things that went wrong, 1230 00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:16,440 and the HDCP thing is like in the top third, 1231 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,559 and there's so much that went wrong after that. 1232 00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, law, that's a good point I'll 1233 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,039 toss up on the website because that, you know, that 1234 00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:25,960 is affected by anything. I just didn't want to thank 1235 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,880 you Oka on YouTube. There you go tomorrow. 1236 00:57:29,159 --> 00:57:31,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Sean uh. 1237 00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:34,119 Speaker 2: Missouri Matt is up next. Thank you for the content 1238 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:35,639 Jeff and Mike. 1239 00:57:35,559 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 1: Wow wow yeah yeah, thanks thanks Mike for going on 1240 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,679 vacation no problem. 1241 00:57:42,639 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 2: Next is from Night Trauma. Ladies and Gentlemen, We got them. 1242 00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:50,440 Borf has been compromised to a permanent and Congress to Dan. 1243 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, what a what a thing? You get a chance 1244 00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:54,719 to check that out. That was quite a thing. 1245 00:57:56,719 --> 00:57:58,519 Speaker 2: I missed the end of that stream because I was 1246 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,639 doing laundry. I was like, there's no ways good. Actually, 1247 00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:03,360 oh no, he did it, Okay, he did it. I 1248 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,599 go back and check out the moment. 1249 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 1: It was amazing. 1250 00:58:05,519 --> 00:58:11,119 Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, yeah, chat is like wholl Mike's here. Next 1251 00:58:11,159 --> 00:58:15,559 from Input Video here, I get it. ESVR represents your 1252 00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:18,920 white well very on them. 1253 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,719 Speaker 1: For fishing week. Absolutely uh. I did want to get 1254 00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:24,239 it back out. I'm like, I, you know, I still 1255 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,760 have that thing sitting around. There's no point to let 1256 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,559 it sit there forever. I should go catch up on 1257 00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:29,719 a few PSUVR games that I'll never be able to 1258 00:58:29,719 --> 00:58:31,920 play again, especially since I'm not going to be able 1259 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,880 to find the ps VR PS five adapter. I should 1260 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,199 get the ps four out as well. And of course 1261 00:58:36,239 --> 00:58:39,320 that was stuck on the end of the camera right here. 1262 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,599 Speaker 2: Hey, that okay, this is the moment that like I've 1263 00:58:43,639 --> 00:58:46,320 always thought this, but this is like the moment that's 1264 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,559 the lift I had. Just fucking generational fumble. They're not 1265 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,679 like them on their end. Don't make developers do this 1266 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,920 on PlayStations and not coming up with a solution to 1267 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,480 make ps VR one titles backwards capable on PSBR two, 1268 00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:01,239 like figure something that. 1269 00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:04,079 Speaker 1: Figure it out that way, or just don't do it. 1270 00:59:04,119 --> 00:59:07,360 Don't do a PSVR two. It's that crazy. It's that crazy, 1271 00:59:07,719 --> 00:59:10,280 like just either figure it out or don't do it. 1272 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,039 And they clearly should not have done it based on 1273 00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:14,440 what happened with PSVR two. 1274 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,119 Speaker 2: The only reasons not backwards compabil is because of tracking tech. 1275 00:59:18,239 --> 00:59:20,960 So you use the same tracking tech even if it's worse, 1276 00:59:21,239 --> 00:59:25,079 like just use it as backwards campable. It was. It 1277 00:59:25,079 --> 00:59:28,159 was a really dumb pathway there. I'd love to see 1278 00:59:28,199 --> 00:59:30,400 like a story twenty years from now on, like no 1279 00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,719 clip or whatever of how we got to that point. 1280 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:33,519 Speaker 1: Yep. 1281 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,159 Speaker 2: Same next is from Crypto Cody Cryptos and the Dog. 1282 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,320 They have it in their profile picture. Cryptoly K. I 1283 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,480 recommend the TV show Interview with a Vampire on AMC 1284 00:59:45,719 --> 00:59:49,880 and the Vampire Lestat, which is season three of the 1285 00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:53,920 show airing now. Amazing storytelling bat emoji, whine emoji. 1286 00:59:54,559 --> 00:59:58,039 Speaker 1: I always liked the original Vampire or interview with a 1287 00:59:58,119 --> 01:00:01,559 Vampire movie, and then I've seen people be very horny 1288 01:00:01,599 --> 01:00:04,519 about this show. Apparently the stat is very, very very hot. 1289 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:10,000 So I'm ok. Yeah, I did see Queen of the 1290 01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:15,679 dam Yes, that's movie. That's culture right there, guy, Yeah, 1291 01:00:15,719 --> 01:00:18,440 queen it was who played the Queen of the Damn? 1292 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:23,519 What was her name? Aliyah? Yeah, yeah, that was a time. 1293 01:00:23,559 --> 01:00:25,000 That was a place, time and place for sure. 1294 01:00:26,519 --> 01:00:30,599 Speaker 2: Interesting movie poster. Okay. Next up is from Antonio Morales. 1295 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,639 Did I get the Retroy Pocket Nova even though I 1296 01:00:33,679 --> 01:00:37,800 have a thor Odin and steam deck tnas. 1297 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 1: You're good, Antonio, Yeah, you're good, especially with a thor 1298 01:00:41,159 --> 01:00:44,639 and you fas get the same thing, but across the 1299 01:00:44,679 --> 01:00:46,320 spread across three different screens. 1300 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah right now? Oh yeah, the olden the Odin is like, yeah, fantastic, 1301 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,119 can't tell. And the Thor if you have the thorny, 1302 01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:58,480 you have yourself covered. Like I'm interested in this one 1303 01:00:58,519 --> 01:01:00,920 because I don't have a thought and I never had 1304 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,239 an interest in Thor because if I'm gonna do dual screen, 1305 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,239 I would just rather do it on OG hardware. 1306 01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 1: And then's you're right actually yeah. 1307 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah for everything before that, I was waiting for a 1308 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,960 handheld like this, and now it's here, so like, you know, 1309 01:01:13,039 --> 01:01:15,079 now I'm happy. But like, if you already have a 1310 01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:17,000 machine that can do it, then you're good. You know, 1311 01:01:17,239 --> 01:01:19,559 you're all good. You need you need to grab this one. 1312 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,000 You don't need to be like Jeff. You don't need 1313 01:01:22,039 --> 01:01:23,119 to grab every single. 1314 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a yeah, it's a disease. Yep. 1315 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 2: D Jones up next with that Micron news. I think 1316 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,440 people are fools to think PlayStation Slash switch to won't 1317 01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,960 increase in price as well. Yeah I meant to mention 1318 01:01:38,039 --> 01:01:41,119 this when we're talking during that segment, but yeah, like 1319 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,920 we know switch to is gonna increase in price. Did they? 1320 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:46,960 Did they say by how much? 1321 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: Switch to? 1322 01:01:49,519 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1323 01:01:50,119 --> 01:01:55,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah right, it's it might be more than that. God, 1324 01:01:55,239 --> 01:01:59,159 I can't remember now switch to price increase, because that's 1325 01:01:59,159 --> 01:02:03,800 happening for us in August. It's already happened in Japan. 1326 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, so they did lock Sorry. 1327 01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Was it September? Is it September? 1328 01:02:09,079 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, September a couple months. 1329 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 1: It's fifty dollars, right, that's what it is. It went 1330 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,000 from four to fifty to five hundred, and that's the 1331 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,039 one without the game obviously. 1332 01:02:17,119 --> 01:02:19,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they would have had such an out there 1333 01:02:19,159 --> 01:02:21,559 if they didn't have a price locked in, is what 1334 01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:23,840 I was going to say, because like internally coup in 1335 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,159 fifty and then now all this tames comes down, they're like, 1336 01:02:26,199 --> 01:02:28,920 actually it's one hundred dollars more. They might have to 1337 01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,599 do one hundred dollars and to fifty. We'll see then. Yeah, 1338 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,360 like Xbox is doing the price increase now, PlayStation's definitely 1339 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,079 close behind. 1340 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely, Oh yeah, for sure though they'll I mean it 1341 01:02:39,519 --> 01:02:43,159 was three price increases from Xbox. We've got two major 1342 01:02:43,199 --> 01:02:46,000 price increases from PlayStation. I think that's right. 1343 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,039 Speaker 2: They've had so many internationally that's hard to keep track. 1344 01:02:49,079 --> 01:02:52,079 I think. Actually that's what they're one here in the US. 1345 01:02:52,559 --> 01:02:56,079 Speaker 1: That's what's from the off Micron news is that Micron 1346 01:02:56,159 --> 01:03:01,039 posted record revenue and a record eighty five for gross margin. 1347 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,199 What that's crazy, and it's expected to be eighty six 1348 01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:12,000 percent gross margin next quarter. The company adds that company 1349 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,960 adds over a one hundred billion in market value in 1350 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:15,960 a single day. 1351 01:03:16,719 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 2: Do you say one hundred billion? 1352 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? They and they're they're stock press saw right, Yes, 1353 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,559 was already up up up, like it's been going. I 1354 01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:26,760 mean like when this stuff was first happened. I'm like 1355 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,760 I remember, like as soon as the first time, like 1356 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,079 I should buy Micron, and like I didn't. Now here 1357 01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:36,559 we are, of course it's been good. Yep, shit, well 1358 01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:40,400 in that time, it's crazy. 1359 01:03:40,239 --> 01:03:44,920 Speaker 4: The biggest this thing is gonna be hilarious yep. 1360 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,559 Speaker 1: I mean like it does. It still does feel like 1361 01:03:48,639 --> 01:03:52,360 that RAM. It like RAM will just stop actually being 1362 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,639 in demand at some point, and then what do these 1363 01:03:54,679 --> 01:03:57,280 companies do because they don't have some other new method 1364 01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,400 to like keep the demand this high, so it will 1365 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,119 break at some point. But in the meantime, so it's going. 1366 01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:04,719 Speaker 4: To start somewhere else and they're gonna need like the 1367 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,239 some chips for to put on those missiles. Don't worry 1368 01:04:07,239 --> 01:04:08,440 about it, We'll figure it out. 1369 01:04:09,159 --> 01:04:10,119 Speaker 1: You're right, figure it out. 1370 01:04:10,199 --> 01:04:16,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. Next from to one free Man, from your mom 1371 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,360 to niece, just checking in on my new son. Do 1372 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:22,280 you need anything? 1373 01:04:23,199 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 1: Ah, I know, I'm good, Thank you. I appreciate it. Denise. 1374 01:04:27,199 --> 01:04:30,880 That's very lovely of you, But uh, I just got 1375 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,320 to deal with all these things breaking on my own. 1376 01:04:33,679 --> 01:04:36,159 And but I don't know, maybe a sandwich that'd be nice. 1377 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:37,000 I appreciate it. 1378 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 2: I forgot about that one next from lurking Adam. Unfortunately, 1379 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,679 blightening around times have increased by more than two point 1380 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,320 five times, and we expect another doubling by the fall 1381 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:51,480 of twenty twenty seven. 1382 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,480 Speaker 3: When is the night club bubbles going to birth? 1383 01:04:56,639 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 1: Apparently not, because now they're like talking about escalating for me, 1384 01:05:00,119 --> 01:05:02,800 So I'm just gonna keep getting bigger and bigger. 1385 01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,679 Speaker 2: We'll see cool YouTube crash got a love it, I 1386 01:05:06,679 --> 01:05:11,079 thought my computer sometimes, but I do still have the 1387 01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:13,719 old super test pulled up. I do see that Riviks 1388 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:15,639 was the last one of the old round. I'll get 1389 01:05:15,639 --> 01:05:19,480 the new round pulled up here. In a second, Rivics said, crazy, 1390 01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:23,119 all the GTA is eighty hate. I feel Mario Kart 1391 01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:25,199 could have been ninety at this point with how quick 1392 01:05:25,239 --> 01:05:27,639 everyone forgotten. Nintendo raised game prices. 1393 01:05:27,719 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 1: First, Yeah, I mean I think that. I think it'll 1394 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,280 be equivalent because there was a lot of hate in 1395 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,440 that moment, and then it passed once the game was 1396 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,679 out and people played it, and everyone's like, yeah, I 1397 01:05:38,679 --> 01:05:40,039 wish I didn't pay the books for this, and most 1398 01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:42,239 people didn't, so most people just got it as in 1399 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,199 the bundle. Some people pay eighty and then everyone feeling 1400 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,760 people who definitely felt burned by that and they did 1401 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,559 not like that price. Same thing's gonna happen here. People 1402 01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,480 buy this game, play it and be like, maybe I didn't. 1403 01:05:53,679 --> 01:05:55,679 Maybe I'm not happy about paying eighty, but I'm moving 1404 01:05:55,719 --> 01:05:56,480 on with my life. 1405 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, game prices are the one that I am like 1406 01:06:03,559 --> 01:06:07,360 least angry about because it's it adds up if you 1407 01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,039 buy a lot of games, But ten dollars isn't like 1408 01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:13,880 the end of the world. It's kind of a this 1409 01:06:14,039 --> 01:06:16,239 sucks and I move on. You know. It's like, okay, 1410 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,400 so I'll I'll have McDonald's for lunch one less time 1411 01:06:19,719 --> 01:06:22,559 this month. It's like, and it's for me at least. 1412 01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:25,199 It's not the biggest deal. It's more of like the 1413 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:29,079 consoles going out by several hundreds, because oh my god, 1414 01:06:29,159 --> 01:06:31,920 it's making it so difficult for people to get into games. 1415 01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,360 But that that that is how I look at. 1416 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,000 Speaker 1: Personally, and you're right, the game prices is just one 1417 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,480 of those ones. That's so strongly anchored that people have 1418 01:06:40,519 --> 01:06:42,559 a huge psychological hurdle with that when they see the 1419 01:06:42,559 --> 01:06:43,159 price go up. 1420 01:06:43,639 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was gonna say something else, but my brain 1421 01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:51,239 is scrambled, So let's move on here to toll Codo. 1422 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:55,000 That's why my brain is scrambled. Hello, I'm on vacation. 1423 01:06:55,199 --> 01:06:58,519 I assume everything is fine with video games. Don't worry, Mike, 1424 01:06:58,639 --> 01:06:59,639 everything is fine. 1425 01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 1: Just don't touch anything else. Whatever you're doing, it's bad, 1426 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,639 but you don't worry about it. You just go back 1427 01:07:04,639 --> 01:07:06,039 to New Orleans. 1428 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 2: Oh right, I was gonna say, I think people just 1429 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,880 forget about Mary Krtt world in general is part of 1430 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,360 the reason that people moved out from that. That's part 1431 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:13,519 of it. 1432 01:07:13,559 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely, Yep. 1433 01:07:15,559 --> 01:07:19,119 Speaker 2: Then we had g Nitro saying Sean Retroid Pocket Nova 1434 01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:22,159 pre order is tomorrow night at nine pm Eastern. There 1435 01:07:22,199 --> 01:07:24,800 we go, per a screenshot from their discord. Thank you 1436 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,199 for that clarification, because yeah, I watched Russ's video and 1437 01:07:28,239 --> 01:07:30,599 he mentioned there. I forgot the exact time, So there 1438 01:07:30,639 --> 01:07:32,320 you go. If anyone else wants to be a sickle 1439 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,239 like me and pre order one of those nine pm 1440 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,239 Eastern tomorrow, apparently. 1441 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,519 Speaker 1: We're going to be. I guess I'll just this will 1442 01:07:39,559 --> 01:07:41,840 be the first place I say it on Giant Bomb 1443 01:07:42,199 --> 01:07:47,039 next Wednesday, July. First, we're going to do a stream 1444 01:07:47,039 --> 01:07:48,559 where me and Dan are going to sit down with 1445 01:07:48,639 --> 01:07:51,880 all of our fun little handhelds and hang out with Abby, 1446 01:07:52,079 --> 01:07:55,000 who's got to growing interest in those, and we'll be 1447 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,559 talking about those. So Shan, if you want to come 1448 01:07:56,559 --> 01:07:58,559 out and like maybe explain the nova and stuff like that, 1449 01:07:58,559 --> 01:07:59,199 that could be fun. 1450 01:07:59,519 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, yeah, I also know a lot about the 1451 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:02,960 hardware and all these, so that would be fun. It'd 1452 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:03,400 be great to have you. 1453 01:08:03,519 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 1: Yep, that'd be awesome. 1454 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,960 Speaker 2: Cool. Then from Sparkle Andre lat of Super chest Night. 1455 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,039 By the way, thank you everybody. Yeah, thanks Sparkle Andre 1456 01:08:12,239 --> 01:08:16,479 says man, I sure am tired of the Nintendo music drops, 1457 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,079 as good as they are. Where are the GameCube games? Ah, 1458 01:08:20,119 --> 01:08:21,039 that's where we go with that. 1459 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,319 Speaker 1: Yep, it's uh. I always do get excited for like 1460 01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,920 half a second with the music draps. Oh awesome. Wait, 1461 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,239 I don't use I don't ever use that, and I 1462 01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:33,119 would much rather have an NSO game instead. But yeah, 1463 01:08:33,159 --> 01:08:33,600 here we are. 1464 01:08:35,119 --> 01:08:37,520 Speaker 2: I like that they exist the music drops because now 1465 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,720 they have a web player now it's actually like. 1466 01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:40,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's better. 1467 01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:41,119 Speaker 2: You're writing it for me. 1468 01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:43,239 Speaker 1: That's true. Yes, that is an unprovement. 1469 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but also yeah, they should be adding more GameCube 1470 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,720 game SAT service. I think you and Mike talked about 1471 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,960 on Tuesday. It's just an iso that they need to add. 1472 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,119 I don't think they're doing anything specifically bespoke for this one. 1473 01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:57,760 Maybe they are. Well, actually, you know, I should take 1474 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,000 that back. I remember people heing down the N sixty 1475 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,399 four emula seeing that they did do bespoke things because 1476 01:09:03,399 --> 01:09:06,079 they were building that emulator as the airplane was in 1477 01:09:06,119 --> 01:09:08,199 the air. So maybe they do have to do things, 1478 01:09:08,279 --> 01:09:09,800 and may that is what's slowing them down. 1479 01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure it's actually somewhat part of it, but 1480 01:09:13,119 --> 01:09:14,840 it's also just Nintendo being Nintendo. 1481 01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, they could also probably throw more people onto that team. 1482 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,319 That's probably pretty small. It's probably just nerd or whatever. 1483 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:26,640 So yeah, yep, Zombie Porin is back. Why do all 1484 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:31,079 those pocket novas look so good? Right after Grubs sold 1485 01:09:31,119 --> 01:09:34,840 all his Chinese handhelds and squidwards at that garage sale. 1486 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:40,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, some guy came ups, like got any video games stuff? Nope, 1487 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:45,520 keeping all of it. Yeah, I those things do look good. 1488 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:47,520 I wish I wish they weren't so slick looking, because 1489 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,439 it's like that's a big part of it. It's shiny 1490 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,720 new thing and I got to get over that. 1491 01:09:52,119 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. People, there's a transparent and then there's a transparent watermelon, 1492 01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,319 transparent gray, transparent ice which is blue, and then there's 1493 01:09:59,319 --> 01:10:01,359 a GameCube on on a Super Family Calm one and 1494 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,560 black one. I'll probably just go to black because it 1495 01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,399 looks like it's Matt black as well, and I like. 1496 01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 1: That's always great. Black is great. 1497 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:13,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. J D Camp is next. Why did they design 1498 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:19,199 megalopany like that apples? Have you ever seen? Have you 1499 01:10:19,239 --> 01:10:21,279 ever seen megalopanyol? 1500 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,199 Speaker 3: This is this going to be? 1501 01:10:24,079 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 2: You need to look it up. 1502 01:10:26,119 --> 01:10:30,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh I have seen this before, and I know 1503 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:31,920 why they did it this way. 1504 01:10:32,199 --> 01:10:34,439 Speaker 2: I know I know that we all know why they 1505 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,039 did it that way. 1506 01:10:37,079 --> 01:10:38,880 Speaker 1: It's all right, I get it. 1507 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:43,880 Speaker 2: I'll say I get it. Yeah, yeah, I get it. Yeah. 1508 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:48,600 Different strokes, No, not low puney. Don't listen to jan 1509 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,800 it's lpani because lop is a type of rabbit. Uh. 1510 01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,720 Scathing Hot spur is up next? Wow, what name you 1511 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,439 should absolutely try to get Russ for the dump truck. 1512 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be cool. Also, I would just maybe 1513 01:11:04,039 --> 01:11:05,880 want to get him for like gaming stuff too, because 1514 01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:06,119 I was. 1515 01:11:06,119 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 2: Gonna say, like, Russ would be a good GMM host, 1516 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,279 Yeah host, probably, yeah, especially if there's a specific day 1517 01:11:12,279 --> 01:11:14,439 where there might be news about it or something like that. 1518 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's excellently. He's one of those ones where 1519 01:11:17,399 --> 01:11:19,920 it's like definitely caught him on the upswing where it's like, yeah, 1520 01:11:20,359 --> 01:11:21,760 this guy knows he was talking about and then like 1521 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,680 a week later everyone, yeah, we're millions of more people 1522 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,760 of people are watching him now, like good that that 1523 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:27,560 that is right? 1524 01:11:28,159 --> 01:11:31,680 Speaker 2: That one chat Elliptic says he's in Hawaii though. 1525 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, well uh actually that would that would be a 1526 01:11:35,239 --> 01:11:37,159 problem for game mess mornings because that would mean it 1527 01:11:37,159 --> 01:11:38,920 would be very early for him. Although I think he 1528 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,359 was in the Marines, so I bet he's a morning person. 1529 01:11:42,039 --> 01:11:45,079 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, that's true. We'll see, We'll see. 1530 01:11:45,279 --> 01:11:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1531 01:11:46,319 --> 01:11:49,680 Speaker 2: Then Crypto Cody is back. I stream Big Picture Mode 1532 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,399 to Apple TV steamlink cap. There you go. We were 1533 01:11:52,399 --> 01:11:54,600 talking about a streaming option earlier, and there's a few 1534 01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:55,720 of them, including that one. 1535 01:11:56,000 --> 01:12:00,199 Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, I will occasionally use a steamlink on the 1536 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,119 although it doesn't work great on the Quest three, there's 1537 01:12:03,159 --> 01:12:04,680 other other ways of doing it instead. 1538 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:11,079 Speaker 2: Zombie porn snuck one more in here. Any EVO predictions, 1539 01:12:11,239 --> 01:12:14,640 will Mike be mad at them as mad? 1540 01:12:15,119 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 3: That's a prediction? 1541 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,000 Speaker 1: Oh man already got knocked out. 1542 01:12:20,119 --> 01:12:21,159 Speaker 3: I already lost. 1543 01:12:22,199 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 2: Two before you even went Uh Evo predictions. I predict 1544 01:12:26,039 --> 01:12:28,000 they're going to add a new character to Blaze Blue 1545 01:12:28,039 --> 01:12:29,119 Central fixture. 1546 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,399 Speaker 1: Crazy yep. 1547 01:12:35,039 --> 01:12:38,840 Speaker 2: Probably, Like let's see if there's anyone left for Token. Yeah, 1548 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,640 there's a whole Token team left to be announced. I 1549 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,520 don't know what they would do with street Fighter because 1550 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,279 weirdly they already showed Yasmine's gameplay trailer, so I'd be 1551 01:12:47,279 --> 01:12:51,000 curious if they do anything link that, and then maybe 1552 01:12:51,279 --> 01:12:53,840 maybe son for tech In as well. Yeah, I'm not 1553 01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,720 interested in supporting EVO in a way shape this forum 1554 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,960 this year. I'll also watch the topics. What the announcements are. 1555 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 4: I used to like streaming every every year. I was 1556 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,680 to like like watch Party. I'm not gonna do that anymore. 1557 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,079 Speaker 1: Are there any notable like players that are sitting now? 1558 01:13:10,119 --> 01:13:11,199 Because I mean I know that a lot for a 1559 01:13:11,239 --> 01:13:12,079 lot of these players this. 1560 01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember I meant to check. Ian Walker 1561 01:13:19,159 --> 01:13:23,319 did put up an article on Kotaku, like interviewing some 1562 01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,119 of people who are sitting out EVO this year, and like, say, jam, 1563 01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:28,640 I play one of them. I think he talked to 1564 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,960 Sonic Fox. I don't. I don't know what they're doing, 1565 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,760 if they set it out or something, or they don't 1566 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,399 plan to attend in the future. Yeah, Maximilian, he's uh, 1567 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:39,920 he's going to be at home this year. He had 1568 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:41,880 a big partnership with them where he's in person for 1569 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,560 a couple of years. And he's like, right, you know, 1570 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,199 I'll still cover it because it's fighting game news basically, 1571 01:13:47,279 --> 01:13:49,640 but like I'm not going to like go there as like. 1572 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,720 Speaker 1: You know what, she kind of close seems like it. 1573 01:13:54,119 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so just a lot of people are just lose 1574 01:13:56,119 --> 01:13:58,279 enthusiasm for EVO in general. But we'll still take the 1575 01:13:58,319 --> 01:14:01,039 announcements because those are ultimately independent from the event. 1576 01:14:01,159 --> 01:14:03,600 Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, the players can earn their money. 1577 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,359 I don't begrudge them that go don't make your money. 1578 01:14:06,399 --> 01:14:07,000 That's fine. 1579 01:14:07,119 --> 01:14:08,720 Speaker 2: Some people in the Pacheck I get it. 1580 01:14:09,359 --> 01:14:13,039 Speaker 4: It sucks, but especially if for fighting game players such 1581 01:14:13,119 --> 01:14:15,720 it is stuff out there, Yes, exactly. 1582 01:14:15,399 --> 01:14:18,399 Speaker 2: So I get it one last one in the chain. 1583 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:23,239 Here veto Libido snuck it in. Wave Race sixty four 1584 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,159 was eighty dollars. In nineteen ninety six, DTA six was 1585 01:14:27,199 --> 01:14:29,520 eighty dollars. Now we go nuts. 1586 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,920 Speaker 1: I mean people weren't happy back then. There was a 1587 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:36,920 reason the PlayStation did so. I mean, Wave Race is 1588 01:14:37,199 --> 01:14:40,239 better than ninety five percent of the games on PlayStation, 1589 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,239 but most people didn't care because it was too expensive 1590 01:14:43,279 --> 01:14:44,760 on a console that they weren't going to get because 1591 01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,319 all the games were that expensive, or many of them were. 1592 01:14:48,279 --> 01:14:53,359 Speaker 2: Too Like yeah, yeah, that's sort of the unspoken thing 1593 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,000 that I try not to bring up because it pisses 1594 01:14:56,039 --> 01:14:57,680 some people off. But like when I said, like, don't 1595 01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,680 buy stuff, I always low key in the back of 1596 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,000 my head of the don't forget that, and sixty four 1597 01:15:03,119 --> 01:15:06,600 games often costs like ninety dollars, but like whatever, it's 1598 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:07,800 not what's about this point? 1599 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, cause it's right, it's it just it doesn't go 1600 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,880 one to one, You're right. I mean people were paying 1601 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,760 this much for a very long time, and video games 1602 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,920 have been expensive like this before, but. 1603 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,560 Speaker 2: We got spoiled by the fifty dollars price point. Likely 1604 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:20,760 and it. 1605 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:22,600 Speaker 1: Locked in for a very It locked in for a 1606 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,239 very long time, and then and then when they changed it, 1607 01:15:25,279 --> 01:15:27,840 everyone just went to sixty uniformly, and we're like, okay, 1608 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,720 and we got that for a very long time. So yeah, 1609 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,640 I talk about that strong anchoring. That's it, and people 1610 01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:35,079 just have a lot of emotion attached to that now, 1611 01:15:35,119 --> 01:15:37,079 and including me, Like when I see the price go up, 1612 01:15:37,119 --> 01:15:39,680 I'm like, yeah, that looks weird. I hate that. So 1613 01:15:40,039 --> 01:15:44,039 I don't blame anyone's c I just regret. 1614 01:15:44,079 --> 01:15:44,319 Speaker 4: I don't. 1615 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:46,359 Speaker 1: I don't think that many people are going crazy about 1616 01:15:46,359 --> 01:15:47,840 the eighty dollars price point. 1617 01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:51,600 Speaker 2: That is, like it's more than we want to pay. 1618 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,600 But also it's not a hundred. It's not like it's 1619 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,119 not one hundred. Yeah, reasonable for like that base game. 1620 01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:00,319 But yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll also squeeze in and Tonium 1621 01:16:00,399 --> 01:16:02,840 Rales last one here. It's wild how you go from 1622 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,079 zero eight bid dough controllers to nine eight bit dough 1623 01:16:05,079 --> 01:16:06,039 controllers real quick? 1624 01:16:06,239 --> 01:16:10,039 Speaker 1: Yep, yes, huh god, that that's my life. A lot 1625 01:16:10,039 --> 01:16:11,439 of those are the eight A dough in sixty four 1626 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,279 controllers at this point. But now at this point, there's 1627 01:16:14,319 --> 01:16:15,479 so many kind of laying all over there. 1628 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,840 Speaker 2: That helps when they're like often thirty pop. 1629 01:16:18,119 --> 01:16:19,840 Speaker 1: Oh, it's it's been, it continues to be a really 1630 01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:21,279 good deal. Let's you know the same kind of does 1631 01:16:21,279 --> 01:16:24,720 anaalog falling out of places? You know, like, that's such 1632 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:28,960 a good controller, that original color style in sixty four. Yeah, 1633 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:29,560 I love it. 1634 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:30,039 Speaker 2: It's so good. 1635 01:16:30,079 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 1: It's it's great, great, great, Okay, let's take out, Let's 1636 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,880 take another break. Then we'll come back and I'll just 1637 01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,239 ask a couple quick questions of Sean about the superstation 1638 01:16:37,399 --> 01:16:44,039 right after this. All right, we're back. Sean, you got 1639 01:16:44,039 --> 01:16:47,680 your superstation delivered. You did a lengthy stream where you 1640 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,359 do you test it out a bunch of stuff. What 1641 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,560 did you come away from that stream and your experience 1642 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,399 so far thinking about the superstation, which, as a reminder, 1643 01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:59,119 is an FPGA, it's it's a mister console, SOO has 1644 01:16:59,159 --> 01:17:01,159 a lot of course, it's presented as if it's a 1645 01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:05,119 PlayStation one. Yeah, what what's your takeaway? O? 1646 01:17:05,239 --> 01:17:09,199 Speaker 2: Takeaway is that is a wonderful little piece of hardware. 1647 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,800 I legitimately am bummed out that Mike's arrived defective and yeah, 1648 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,039 and get replacement one because this is perfect for someone 1649 01:17:17,079 --> 01:17:19,760 like him, because it is it is very you know what. 1650 01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,119 Similar philosophy to the Steam machine. Actually, like we talked 1651 01:17:23,159 --> 01:17:26,680 about how you can you know, have any AMD PC 1652 01:17:27,079 --> 01:17:30,479 you can install a links distribution and nowadays Steam once 1653 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:33,159 on it and do it very diy or are you 1654 01:17:33,199 --> 01:17:35,800 just by a Steam machine even if it is pricey. 1655 01:17:36,039 --> 01:17:39,560 Similar philosophy here with the superstation where it is just 1656 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:43,560 a pre built Yeah, mister FPGA gaming console, which now 1657 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,880 I get to explains on if people don't know about 1658 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,039 the mister We've mentioned it before, but if you don't know, basically, 1659 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:54,520 the mister project uses a field programmable gait array FPGA, 1660 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,560 which is basically just a programmable computer chip. It's like 1661 01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,279 a large computer chip that you can program to behave 1662 01:18:00,359 --> 01:18:03,640 in a certain way to like mimic other circuits and 1663 01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,239 computer chips and stuff like that that are simpler than it. 1664 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,000 And so what people realize they could do is they 1665 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,960 can program one of those to simulate old video game 1666 01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,399 consoles that are simpler. And so that's why we see 1667 01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,279 like in Analog's products, you see FPA slapped all over 1668 01:18:17,319 --> 01:18:20,279 like the Pocket and the Analog SG and stuff like that. 1669 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,359 And so it's an open source, community based project that 1670 01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:28,960 now Paki, you'd on who may is? He was? I 1671 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,840 guess a YouTuber started up his own company to make 1672 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,439 a lot of retro gaming products, including this one, and 1673 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,159 it is just it's nice to have a company who 1674 01:18:37,199 --> 01:18:40,079 will ship you one that's ready to go. You don't 1675 01:18:40,199 --> 01:18:43,119 have to set anything up. You just pop out the 1676 01:18:43,239 --> 01:18:45,680 SD card that's included with it, load your games onto 1677 01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,920 it because you know, legally you have to supply the 1678 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,800 games the ROMs. You pop it back in and then 1679 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,319 you're just off the races. You pick the core from there, 1680 01:18:53,359 --> 01:18:56,039 you pick the game, and it just starts playing. It's 1681 01:18:56,239 --> 01:19:00,720 really really cool. It makes playing retro games very easy, 1682 01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:05,680 especially for some that are a little more difficult to emulate. 1683 01:19:06,039 --> 01:19:08,720 You know, like if you do a software emulator on 1684 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,239 your PC, sometimes it's difficult to like, you know, run 1685 01:19:12,279 --> 01:19:16,199 a Saturn emulator accurately on your Windows PC or something 1686 01:19:16,239 --> 01:19:19,840 like that. But people figured out ways to effectively get 1687 01:19:20,159 --> 01:19:24,079 this FPGA system to play Saturn games and that's really cool, 1688 01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:26,920 really awesome to be able to fire that up. From 1689 01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,079 what I can tell, the superstation is just you know, 1690 01:19:30,159 --> 01:19:33,920 it's just a mister the box. If they are in 1691 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,680 beta testing, I wish it wasn't a beta. I wish 1692 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,119 they had just waited until this was done. But they 1693 01:19:39,119 --> 01:19:42,119 are beta testing a proper console UI that will make 1694 01:19:42,159 --> 01:19:44,600 you look like a console as you think of it, 1695 01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,520 with like a grid based interface that is a lot 1696 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,399 more easy to navigate with a controller and everything like that. 1697 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,880 But for now is the more text based mister interface. 1698 01:19:54,039 --> 01:19:56,960 It's getting the job done. And I was impressed with 1699 01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:00,319 the mister in general because I haven't owned one, and 1700 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,840 for example, the CRT shaters have gone so good, just 1701 01:20:05,039 --> 01:20:05,600 really good. 1702 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,640 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, a lot of them are pre installed here. 1703 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:13,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like I assume they would be on a 1704 01:20:13,319 --> 01:20:15,600 regular mister, once you get the US on there, I. 1705 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,960 Speaker 1: Guess now you're getting all the packages now, yes. 1706 01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,800 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, especially if you like run update all, which 1707 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,159 is scripting download. 1708 01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:24,039 Speaker 1: Script that is just widely used at this point, mister. 1709 01:20:24,279 --> 01:20:28,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, but everybody the Sony Trinotron wants very specifically, So 1710 01:20:28,359 --> 01:20:30,520 like if you have a mister or you give superstation, 1711 01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:34,439 use the Sony Trinitron CRT shad in the video options 1712 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:38,000 menu because that looks very similar to the best CRT 1713 01:20:38,079 --> 01:20:40,319 shads that you can get, like retroarc and everything, like 1714 01:20:40,359 --> 01:20:44,800 CRT Royal it looks fantastic, and I'm really happy that 1715 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:49,199 this system plays high end emulation like Saturn N sixty 1716 01:20:49,199 --> 01:20:51,119 four and PS one. Of course it looks like a 1717 01:20:51,119 --> 01:20:53,680 PS one slim, so it plays PS one very well 1718 01:20:54,039 --> 01:20:56,079 as well as all the older stuff and it makes 1719 01:20:56,119 --> 01:20:58,640 them look good. With CRT shader, you can connect a 1720 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,119 controller no problem. You just hold the menu bun and 1721 01:21:01,159 --> 01:21:04,359 then you hold pair on your controller and pairs instantly. 1722 01:21:05,079 --> 01:21:07,720 It's awesome. It's great to have a very straightforward way 1723 01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:09,520 to do all this mister stuff that was a little 1724 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,800 daunting before. It was a little like building a PC. 1725 01:21:12,079 --> 01:21:14,920 So it's cool that company streamlining and just buy one 1726 01:21:15,039 --> 01:21:17,000 and you know, I might might take a hot second 1727 01:21:17,039 --> 01:21:18,560 to get to you because they're like kind of behind 1728 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,119 on shipping them, but once you do, it'll be a 1729 01:21:21,119 --> 01:21:21,840 great experience. 1730 01:21:22,239 --> 01:21:24,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of amazing, like all the work, 1731 01:21:24,279 --> 01:21:26,479 like honestly, just the work that he did in the 1732 01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,920 first place, tech you do on to make the mister pie, 1733 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:33,720 which was just they went in there and they figured 1734 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:35,680 out like what the what is what is the chip 1735 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,680 called the d E ten instead of airplane feels that's 1736 01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,760 thank you. The d E ten nano and they studied 1737 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,439 the schematics and they were the ones that kind of 1738 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:45,840 figure out, like they took out all this stuff that 1739 01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,239 wasn't that wasn't necessary for retro gaming, and then they 1740 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:51,680 updated all of the book parts of the board that 1741 01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:55,039 were kind of using multiple variations of like USB used 1742 01:21:55,039 --> 01:21:56,800 to be A or used to be two and all 1743 01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:58,319 this stuff, and they're like, Okay, we're just gonna do 1744 01:21:58,359 --> 01:22:00,800 one USB C board and that will reduce costs. They 1745 01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,880 basically cut the price in half for a mister, and 1746 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,600 then to take that and be like, okay, now let's 1747 01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:08,720 make it a really smart all in one package. Which 1748 01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,840 is the thing here, Like we could say over and over, 1749 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,680 this is just a mister. But it's a mister with 1750 01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,079 all of the input and outputs just set up for 1751 01:22:16,159 --> 01:22:19,279 you in an awesome case. And it's got snack adapters 1752 01:22:19,279 --> 01:22:21,680 built right in, which the snack adapters are the way 1753 01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:25,279 that you can can connect classic controllers or whatever. Now 1754 01:22:25,279 --> 01:22:29,079 it has the it has the PlayStation ports right there. 1755 01:22:29,119 --> 01:22:30,920 Do you know if there's a way to like to 1756 01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,880 snack adapt like other controllers right on the thing. I 1757 01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,600 haven't actually looked at that yet. 1758 01:22:35,399 --> 01:22:37,600 Speaker 2: So I believe this is something that's not available, but 1759 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,760 he's talked about He's talked about the system for so 1760 01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,279 long or the past like two years in various places, 1761 01:22:42,359 --> 01:22:46,279 drip feeding. I believe that the shape of the PS 1762 01:22:46,359 --> 01:22:49,479 one connectors on here are just like a different shape 1763 01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:53,159 for a snack adapter. And so, by the way, snack adapter, 1764 01:22:53,399 --> 01:22:55,439 I forget what snack SNAC. 1765 01:22:55,079 --> 01:22:57,720 Speaker 1: Stands for Serial net I can't remember. 1766 01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but basically it's bypassing us B ports and 1767 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,640 anything that has overhead to directly connect the FPGA to 1768 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,159 get you like basically instantaneous inputs like you would get 1769 01:23:07,199 --> 01:23:11,000 on console. So I believe the PS one controller ports 1770 01:23:11,039 --> 01:23:13,640 on the front of this thing are just a different 1771 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,680 shape for the snack adapter. And uh, I think they're 1772 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,520 going to sell controller port adapters that you can plug 1773 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:24,359 other stuff into them, okay or whatever. Which, by the way, 1774 01:23:25,079 --> 01:23:27,079 there's a lot of things that aren't working on this 1775 01:23:27,199 --> 01:23:29,439 out of the box. Unfortunately, if you got the DOC, 1776 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,560 so the I believe the memory card ports do not 1777 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,039 currently work. You need the You need to wait until 1778 01:23:36,039 --> 01:23:39,000 the console UI is out for that, and then the 1779 01:23:39,159 --> 01:23:42,359 DOC does not read discs right now. You also need 1780 01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:44,199 to wait for the console UI for that. So if 1781 01:23:44,239 --> 01:23:48,680 you did buy a superstation with the dock, it's frustrating 1782 01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,840 that you have to wait for some extra functionality that 1783 01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:54,279 you technically paid for. But they are working on it's 1784 01:23:54,279 --> 01:23:56,279 in beta right now and you can't download it. It's 1785 01:23:56,319 --> 01:23:58,800 just like it's not preloaded, which I would have liked 1786 01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,920 to see because that's really what a lot of people 1787 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,760 are going for. But even as a quote unquote just 1788 01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,119 a mister, the fact that's like all ready to go 1789 01:24:06,199 --> 01:24:07,159 for you is awesome. 1790 01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty happy, Like this is definitely like going 1791 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:12,319 to be the mister. I'm you, like, I have a 1792 01:24:12,359 --> 01:24:15,840 mister over here. And then I got this as well, 1793 01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,039 and I was okay, So I was a little disappointed 1794 01:24:18,039 --> 01:24:20,319 first because I have this, but using it, it's like 1795 01:24:20,359 --> 01:24:24,880 it is. The packaging does make a difference. It is 1796 01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:28,399 a less of a headache, it feels less frail than 1797 01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,840 the one I have. It's just yeah, it's just it's 1798 01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,319 really nice. So and then get like the work's been done, 1799 01:24:33,319 --> 01:24:36,000 the cores are there. They're really good for like up 1800 01:24:36,119 --> 01:24:40,119 through in sixty four even these days, it's it's impressive stuff. 1801 01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:43,760 So yeah, I hopefully people can start grabbing these if 1802 01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:45,640 they really want one, and hopefully attack you done can 1803 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,720 kind of keep up with that. Of course they're going 1804 01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,920 to get hit by component pricing here, but not as 1805 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,239 much as some other things, so hopefully the prices don't 1806 01:24:52,279 --> 01:24:56,640 go too insane. Yeah, okay, cool, Yeah Sewn, you, like 1807 01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:57,960 I said, you did a stream that's up on your 1808 01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,920 YouTube channel. People can like watch you go through this, 1809 01:25:00,319 --> 01:25:01,079 right right? 1810 01:25:01,159 --> 01:25:03,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. I did my best to make the stream also 1811 01:25:03,399 --> 01:25:08,000 like viewable, like a comfy view If you just want 1812 01:25:08,039 --> 01:25:10,039 to put a long YouTube video on in the background 1813 01:25:10,119 --> 01:25:12,640 some background noise, and it's up on my YouTube channel 1814 01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,239 as well. Both my twitch and YouTube are perbo Shawn 1815 01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:19,319 Sahawn and I have it now. The YouTube video. I 1816 01:25:19,319 --> 01:25:21,399 also went through and put time stamps on. So you 1817 01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:24,079 just want to see something very specific, like you want 1818 01:25:24,079 --> 01:25:26,399 to see, oh, how does restling Evil two on N 1819 01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,199 sixty four work on this thing? Doesn't handle the FMB 1820 01:25:29,279 --> 01:25:31,079 as well? Like oh, I do want to see like 1821 01:25:31,399 --> 01:25:35,199 if Sonic Jam and you know, like those weird ports 1822 01:25:35,199 --> 01:25:38,319 of song games running through the Saturn and then running 1823 01:25:38,399 --> 01:25:40,680 on this thing, does that work? I have that all 1824 01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,680 broken down for you. So yeah, if you're interested in 1825 01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,119 all this techie stuff, you want me to break it 1826 01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:48,720 down for you on a nice long video. Go check 1827 01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:53,119 it out well the description, Thank you, Christian. Yes, some 1828 01:25:53,159 --> 01:25:55,399 friends of the channel, like I hung out for a 1829 01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:58,479 little bit, like Dan hopped into the chat. Sean Sjohnson 1830 01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,319 was hanging out for a little bit. He popped head 1831 01:26:00,359 --> 01:26:03,239 and and uh, we had someone from the Mister team 1832 01:26:03,319 --> 01:26:06,079 actually hang out for a cool portion of the stream, 1833 01:26:06,319 --> 01:26:08,920 someone who I believe primarily worked on the Saturn core. 1834 01:26:09,319 --> 01:26:11,920 That was like plan out, Yeah, explaining how some of 1835 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,119 the more complicated cores worked, giving me some tips of 1836 01:26:15,159 --> 01:26:17,079 like how set some stuff up properly and our thing. 1837 01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:19,600 That was very fun having them explain it. And yeah, 1838 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,199 my I do have my twist chat on the vod. 1839 01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,880 You can see everything that they said verbatim as well. 1840 01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,119 Speaker 1: Excellent. All right, great, yeah, people should check that out. 1841 01:26:28,119 --> 01:26:30,079 Like Christian said, will love the link in the description. 1842 01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,600 All right, let's uh, let's take one last break and 1843 01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:40,079 then we'll talk about what we've been playing. All right, Uh, 1844 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,640 what have we been playing? Let's start where you showing 1845 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:44,199 what games have you been getting into? 1846 01:26:45,079 --> 01:26:46,960 Speaker 2: Uh it was you know, or the weekend. It was 1847 01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,800 primarily superstation stuff. I did. Also the our stream more 1848 01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:53,279 of the weekend. I did finish up you know, retro 1849 01:26:53,319 --> 01:26:56,640 achievements check in for the WEI event. I finished Super 1850 01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,039 Mario Galaxy too. I played through and finished it. 1851 01:27:00,159 --> 01:27:02,079 Speaker 1: I do think I like. 1852 01:27:02,119 --> 01:27:05,680 Speaker 2: Galaxy one a bit better personally, but I think Galaxy 1853 01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,239 two was fun for what it is if you know 1854 01:27:08,359 --> 01:27:11,279 the story, and it was basically a DLC add on slash, 1855 01:27:11,319 --> 01:27:14,560 a map pack basically that they decided to bundle up 1856 01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,199 into its own thing because it would have been difficult 1857 01:27:16,199 --> 01:27:17,560 to you know, put out like a. 1858 01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,279 Speaker 1: DLC type of It had so many ideas, which is 1859 01:27:20,279 --> 01:27:21,800 the thing I loved about it. It's like, oh man, 1860 01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,159 you could just tell that this is all the really 1861 01:27:24,199 --> 01:27:26,279 fun ideas they couldn't quite get together in time for 1862 01:27:26,319 --> 01:27:27,840 the first game, And yeah it was great. 1863 01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, some stuff like you know Yoshi, like you get 1864 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,920 on Yoshi and then you eat a pepper and then 1865 01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,159 you like race up walls for a level and stuff 1866 01:27:35,199 --> 01:27:38,000 like that. That was very cool. So yeah, it definitely 1867 01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,119 had some cool ideas, but I think some of the 1868 01:27:40,199 --> 01:27:42,079 levels fell a bit flat for me. So I do 1869 01:27:42,279 --> 01:27:45,880 like the First Galaxy more. Also First Galaxy like one 1870 01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:47,960 hundred percent more of Rosalina. So it's the Bear game 1871 01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:48,399 in general. 1872 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:52,239 Speaker 1: You know, oh that makes sense, Yeah for sure. Yeah, 1873 01:27:52,359 --> 01:27:55,279 I've been planning playing some old games. I got the 1874 01:27:55,359 --> 01:27:59,439 Dreamcast working for specifically for the Fishing Week streams. But 1875 01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,439 I'm like, got this thing, let's let's go all out. 1876 01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:04,920 And I got I got a really nice Dreamcast off 1877 01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,680 of eBay that kind of has all the bells and 1878 01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,560 whistles and it's it's really nice. It's got the HDMI 1879 01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,960 mod in there, and they recapped it and stuff, and 1880 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,640 they took out all the because it's you know, using 1881 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,279 an optical drive emulator. They take out that like one 1882 01:28:18,359 --> 01:28:20,319 power rail that gets very hot, and it's one of 1883 01:28:20,359 --> 01:28:22,840 the main reasons the dreamcasts failed. That's just not in 1884 01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:24,520 there anymore. It's not needed because we don't have a 1885 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:28,760 spinning drive. So the things should like theoretically last for decades. 1886 01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,600 Like I'm like, okay, cool, awesome, And then got it 1887 01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,359 set up and that was a hassle in its own right, 1888 01:28:34,359 --> 01:28:36,359 but not as much as some of these other other things. 1889 01:28:36,399 --> 01:28:39,039 And I played through Cannon Spike and that is a 1890 01:28:39,079 --> 01:28:42,039 hell of a game. Yeah, that's a good game. You know, 1891 01:28:42,279 --> 01:28:46,239 cameon Rollerblades always thumbs up for me. But also just 1892 01:28:46,279 --> 01:28:49,159 a really good game once you kind of like figure 1893 01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:51,199 out it's like a twin stick shooter with one stick, 1894 01:28:51,279 --> 01:28:53,600 so there's a lock on and uh, and there's a 1895 01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,560 little bit of melee you can throw in there. It's 1896 01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,079 just it's it feels really good and it goes from 1897 01:28:58,119 --> 01:29:01,000 like one high to the net to the next. They 1898 01:29:01,039 --> 01:29:03,520 don't pad it out because it very much is like 1899 01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:05,880 an arcade game and they want to have just these 1900 01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,800 cool set pieces, and I guess for people that don't 1901 01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,279 really know, it is like kind of a top down 1902 01:29:12,319 --> 01:29:15,199 shooter where you can play as different characters. Everyone does 1903 01:29:15,279 --> 01:29:18,720 just play as Cameo on Rollerblades though, and and you're 1904 01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,479 kind of just taking on the waves of enemies. But 1905 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:25,600 it's mostly like like mid bosses and full bosses, and 1906 01:29:26,119 --> 01:29:29,880 they're all super well designed. And it's that Naomi Dreamcast 1907 01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:34,920 era incredible vibes in everything the look, the sound, the feel, 1908 01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,960 the music across the board. And it's because it's such 1909 01:29:39,000 --> 01:29:42,159 an onslaught of cool moments one after another. You are 1910 01:29:42,199 --> 01:29:45,920 getting that in huge doses. And Yeah, I'm super into that. 1911 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,159 I had played it a little bit before. I think 1912 01:29:48,159 --> 01:29:50,399 I might have played it in it was in the 1913 01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:55,479 recent Yakuza. I think. I don't think that's right. I 1914 01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:57,239 think it was it. Maybe it was it. Maybe I'm 1915 01:29:57,279 --> 01:29:58,000 thinking of something else. 1916 01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,359 Speaker 2: There's a different one in ya is a eight that 1917 01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:02,840 I think is similar to it. 1918 01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,079 Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's probably that's right. Yeah, that was that 1919 01:30:05,159 --> 01:30:08,880 weird like running running beat him up game. You're right, Okay, 1920 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,239 So yeah, I must have played on an emulator recently 1921 01:30:11,279 --> 01:30:14,239 when Mike mentioned it, and I'm glad I finally played 1922 01:30:14,239 --> 01:30:16,920 through the whole thing. But yeah, that's that. I've been 1923 01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,960 playing that. I did the Rhythm Heaven demo that seems 1924 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:23,039 pretty solid. Rhythm Heaven seems good. I liked those a lot. 1925 01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,199 And then it's been and then it's been starfucks, quite 1926 01:30:26,239 --> 01:30:27,840 a bit of starfucks. I played through it about two 1927 01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,560 and a half times now. We did the multiplayer mode. 1928 01:30:32,159 --> 01:30:34,479 I did try out the co op with Mike a 1929 01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,039 little bit, and I was the I was the gunner 1930 01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,640 and he was the he was flying and I was 1931 01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:43,000 so I had it in mouse mode and man, clicking 1932 01:30:43,039 --> 01:30:45,359 on that thing like fifteen times, my hand was already 1933 01:30:45,359 --> 01:30:49,840 ready to explode. It was yeah, with the little joy 1934 01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:54,560 con like, this is not great for me. So but yeah, 1935 01:30:54,079 --> 01:30:58,039 I'm looking. I'm hoping a lot of people do come 1936 01:30:58,079 --> 01:31:01,399 to Starfucks because of this game and the movie. This 1937 01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,800 is still a great game. It's still really good. Sean. 1938 01:31:04,319 --> 01:31:06,399 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, star Fox sixty four is an all timer, 1939 01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:10,199 and that's why it's like when they said that it 1940 01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:12,319 was a remake of that, it's it's one of those 1941 01:31:12,359 --> 01:31:16,239 situations where I feel like it's unnecessary, so I don't 1942 01:31:16,279 --> 01:31:19,279 necessarily want it. But at the same time, Star Fox 1943 01:31:19,359 --> 01:31:21,840 sixty four rules, So it's you know, sort of like 1944 01:31:22,159 --> 01:31:26,399 it's like the Okarina Time remake. Similar thing there, where 1945 01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:30,960 do you really need need to remake Akerina Time? I 1946 01:31:31,039 --> 01:31:33,159 really feel like you could just like upported the three 1947 01:31:33,239 --> 01:31:35,600 DS version, that's alid a lot of its issues. But 1948 01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,079 at the same time, it's Okerina Time. A lot of 1949 01:31:38,079 --> 01:31:39,880 people are gonna want to play that, but it's just 1950 01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,159 prettier and they do a lot of quality of life 1951 01:31:42,199 --> 01:31:44,760 stuff to it. So yeah, I get I get with 1952 01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:45,720 Star Fucks as well. 1953 01:31:46,359 --> 01:31:48,800 Speaker 1: Yep, all right, but that's that's it for me, Sean. 1954 01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:50,119 Anything else from you? 1955 01:31:50,119 --> 01:31:52,239 Speaker 2: You know what someone asked about last week, So I'll 1956 01:31:52,239 --> 01:31:55,760 do this rapid fire. I did play a lot of 1957 01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:57,920 Steamnacs fast demos Jeff. 1958 01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,960 Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, yeah, give me the give me quick 1959 01:32:00,119 --> 01:32:00,680 run down here. 1960 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll do these super quick because I don't know 1961 01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:05,960 a ton of demos. I think close to eighty this 1962 01:32:06,079 --> 01:32:09,880 go around. Jeez, not a ton. That really stuck with 1963 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:11,640 me unfortunately, So I just you know what. 1964 01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,359 Speaker 1: I don't know a handful. But when I was going 1965 01:32:13,399 --> 01:32:15,119 through them, not a lot. We're singing to me. 1966 01:32:15,239 --> 01:32:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I was sticking out this time for me. 1967 01:32:19,039 --> 01:32:23,319 But I will say I did like takeover to you know, 1968 01:32:23,399 --> 01:32:26,319 you know, friend of ours Matt mcmuscles is producer on that. 1969 01:32:26,359 --> 01:32:29,880 I believe legitimately fun beat them up, you know, maybe 1970 01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,560 a bit simple because they are going for that arcade style, 1971 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,520 but I do think they have something there where you know, 1972 01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,560 you beat people up and then also you have limited 1973 01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:40,840 number of bullets saying just shoot a fool if he's 1974 01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:43,960 like really annoying. And so I think that little twist 1975 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,600 on the gameplay is pretty fun over there. I got 1976 01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:51,760 to try Namco Legendary Mountains, which is that like a 1977 01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,159 sweek a game, but instead of like dropping route into 1978 01:32:55,199 --> 01:32:57,920 like a to be er, like pousing the orbs onto 1979 01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,119 a dish that game. 1980 01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:01,520 Speaker 1: Okay, y, that was fun. 1981 01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:03,880 Speaker 2: Uh it you know, same concept as sweak a game, 1982 01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,439 which is a fantastic game. So I like this concept 1983 01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:06,800 as well. 1984 01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,479 Speaker 1: Speak a game got a sweak of game planets. Have 1985 01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,319 you ever seen that where it is like it's yeah 1986 01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:13,359 circle when you're dropping in from the outside and you 1987 01:33:13,399 --> 01:33:15,159 kind of go around the outside almost a tempest. 1988 01:33:16,039 --> 01:33:17,279 Speaker 2: I haven't played it. 1989 01:33:17,319 --> 01:33:18,960 Speaker 1: Is it similar to that or is it is a 1990 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:22,439 little bit different? Do you drop it on the dish 1991 01:33:22,479 --> 01:33:25,319 from the perimeter or do you drop it by okay, okay, 1992 01:33:25,359 --> 01:33:25,880 so it's different. 1993 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,439 Speaker 2: So what you do is you lob it. You like, 1994 01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:33,439 there's like an arc that you're interesting onto this actually dish. Yeah, 1995 01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:38,119 it's actually really cool. I I dig it. Let's see 1996 01:33:38,119 --> 01:33:40,199 what else I'm actually I saw most of these downloads. 1997 01:33:40,239 --> 01:33:44,079 I'm just going down line. Uh or Bricks was something 1998 01:33:44,079 --> 01:33:46,800 that that was interesting, whereas I guess you could say 1999 01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,520 it sort of combines ball Pit with uh Geometry Wars. 2000 01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,760 But so basically what is is you are stationary in 2001 01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,840 the middle of the screen and all these like blocks 2002 01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,159 are flying at you. It's like very abstract graphics and 2003 01:34:00,199 --> 01:34:04,399 basically every so many intervals you like shoot balls out 2004 01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,439 to like hit the bricks, you know, so a breakout 2005 01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:11,319 style and like Ballpit, the idea is to like bounce 2006 01:34:11,359 --> 01:34:13,920 them around and like destroy the bricks, and that's a roguelike, 2007 01:34:14,239 --> 01:34:18,119 though you are like upgrading to like fire more projectiles, 2008 01:34:18,239 --> 01:34:21,000 fire them faster, do more damage. It was simple, but 2009 01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:22,760 I thought it was cute. If this game comes off 2010 01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:24,600 like six bucks or so, I'll probably pick it up 2011 01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:26,880 because it seems like I don't know Mason to like 2012 01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:30,000 pass the time on steam deck or something. The one 2013 01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:35,600 that really caught my eye was ag x GP and 2014 01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:39,439 so this is another one of those fast racing. 2015 01:34:39,119 --> 01:34:41,439 Speaker 1: Games, right okay, yeah, not. 2016 01:34:41,199 --> 01:34:43,800 Speaker 2: Not as in the Fast series from Shinnen, but just 2017 01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:48,399 like an F zero wipeout style game something like that. 2018 01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,439 This one caught my eye just because of all the 2019 01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:55,560 little mechanics. It's ultimately pretty simple. It's ultimately wipe out 2020 01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:59,199 style mostly of just like racing fast down like sort 2021 01:34:59,239 --> 01:35:01,840 of as right away that sometimes goes into like tubes 2022 01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:05,279 and stuff like that. But the idea is that they 2023 01:35:05,279 --> 01:35:07,720 have a bunch of tiny mechanics that always try to 2024 01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,800 get you to boost more. Do you have a boost 2025 01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:15,600 meter that slowly recharges, but you also have there's resistance 2026 01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:20,199 pads that slow you down but also boost like windows 2027 01:35:20,199 --> 01:35:22,960 they sort of go through on the track. And there's 2028 01:35:23,079 --> 01:35:26,199 also was it there's track hopping, so there will be 2029 01:35:26,319 --> 01:35:29,520 tracks in the air where you have your your vehicle 2030 01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:32,079 jump and then you like move the analog stick in 2031 01:35:32,119 --> 01:35:34,399 direction to like slam onto one of the other tracks. 2032 01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:38,000 And then there's also uh, the last one is a 2033 01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:41,399 drift where when you enter the drift it goes into 2034 01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:44,279 bullet time and like if you execute it well, like 2035 01:35:44,319 --> 01:35:46,800 you also get a mini boost. So there's all these 2036 01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:49,880 tiny little things that constantly try to gets you to 2037 01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,920 get more boost and like so we have to use 2038 01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,560 the boost gauge less and it's all about avoiding the 2039 01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,880 resistance pads or like boosting through them and then like 2040 01:36:00,079 --> 01:36:02,960 min maxing the amount booster, using to get the lowest 2041 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:04,399 time possible on every track. 2042 01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:05,840 Speaker 1: So that sounds awesome. 2043 01:36:06,199 --> 01:36:09,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I believe the demo is still available if 2044 01:36:09,079 --> 01:36:11,079 people want, Yes, it is, if people want to go 2045 01:36:11,159 --> 01:36:13,760 check it out. I thought it was really interesting. I'm 2046 01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:16,359 like a fun little twist on the formula that a 2047 01:36:16,359 --> 01:36:18,720 bunch of people have done, so hey, go check out 2048 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,319 agx GP. I thought it was the highlight of the 2049 01:36:21,359 --> 01:36:23,039 next veest for me personally. 2050 01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:26,279 Speaker 1: I did. I did forget one game that I have 2051 01:36:26,359 --> 01:36:29,439 not played yet, but I did add it to my account, 2052 01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:35,159 I mean using the Steam account. Everybody. It's called congratulations 2053 01:36:35,159 --> 01:36:37,159 on your purchase. Are you aware of this game? 2054 01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:39,840 Speaker 2: No? But I no, you don't know that very often. 2055 01:36:41,199 --> 01:36:42,920 Speaker 1: Did you want to go look it up real quick 2056 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:48,199 on Steam? Oh, it's like I am rich on iOS right, Yes, 2057 01:36:48,279 --> 01:36:52,840 it is exactly that. It's it's one thousand dollars on 2058 01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,439 Steam and it's like, I got what do they say? 2059 01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:58,239 Like their description is, let me go to the store page. 2060 01:36:58,239 --> 01:37:02,399 Here the most game on Steam, and it's just like 2061 01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:06,520 the biggest trash of walking down a red carpet and 2062 01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:08,439 a bunch of people on the other side of a 2063 01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:12,600 velvet rope cheering you and paparazzi taking your picture or whatever. 2064 01:37:13,039 --> 01:37:14,720 And I didn't have to really pay for this, so 2065 01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,079 I kind of wanted to check it out and just 2066 01:37:16,119 --> 01:37:18,039 see just how depraved it really is. 2067 01:37:18,279 --> 01:37:20,680 Speaker 2: Look at me, Jeff, look at me, at me your scream? 2068 01:37:21,079 --> 01:37:23,119 How many user reviews does this have? Do you know? 2069 01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,199 Speaker 1: I I do know how many. I knew it. I 2070 01:37:27,239 --> 01:37:28,920 knew it had two when I bought. It doesn't have 2071 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:29,359 any more. 2072 01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:33,520 Speaker 2: So at least two people spent one thousand dollars on 2073 01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:34,000 this trash. 2074 01:37:34,119 --> 01:37:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah they do. 2075 01:37:35,199 --> 01:37:37,800 Speaker 2: Wait wait they were both under two hours they met. 2076 01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:38,800 They might have refunded it. 2077 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:45,800 Speaker 1: They probably refunded right. Oh that's really really stupid. Uh okay, 2078 01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,239 so I'll check that out. Man, what a what a 2079 01:37:48,319 --> 01:37:52,359 dumb thing? All right, that's gonna do it. I think. 2080 01:37:52,479 --> 01:37:54,079 Let's see here, let's catch up on. 2081 01:37:54,159 --> 01:37:57,399 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I play it, metch that game. 2082 01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:03,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to we will play it, okay, lay 2083 01:38:03,119 --> 01:38:03,760 next week or so. 2084 01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2085 01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:07,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, I played with friends and then I play around 2086 01:38:07,159 --> 01:38:09,760 and even though not Alonge with like Randos and the like, 2087 01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:11,760 he has a suber browser and you just pick one 2088 01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:13,520 a random and it still was fun. Like it's one 2089 01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:15,760 of those games. It's just it's just fun to play. 2090 01:38:16,199 --> 01:38:18,640 So yeah, ten out of ten friends lave, but like 2091 01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:20,560 in the good way, friends lub, not in the bad way. 2092 01:38:21,239 --> 01:38:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw I saw Grandpoo Bear and Salted Offense 2093 01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,199 and people playing it there day and looked really fun. 2094 01:38:28,159 --> 01:38:31,399 Speaker 3: For people that don't understand that, don't don't give pitch. 2095 01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:33,720 Speaker 4: It's like a proper home game where like you know, 2096 01:38:34,319 --> 01:38:36,439 I think do they have the same mode where you 2097 01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:39,840 turn into a piece object in the in the like 2098 01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,359 environment and you have to hide from other people that 2099 01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:43,680 shooting at the. 2100 01:38:43,399 --> 01:38:46,600 Speaker 3: Things into one of the props in the stage. It's 2101 01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:47,039 having it. 2102 01:38:47,119 --> 01:38:49,920 Speaker 4: But the twist on this one is you're just a 2103 01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:52,920 little guy and you can pay yourself, so you can like. 2104 01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:55,720 Speaker 1: You can like move into like different positions right putting them, 2105 01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:56,800 but you're still a little guy. 2106 01:38:57,479 --> 01:38:58,319 Speaker 3: You're still a little guy. 2107 01:38:58,359 --> 01:39:01,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can like like climb a wall and like 2108 01:39:01,319 --> 01:39:03,479 stick against like a wall and then paint yourself the 2109 01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:05,479 sinkler of the wall like in a painting. You're gonna 2110 01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:09,039 try to recreate the painting and like it's it's really 2111 01:39:09,159 --> 01:39:13,640 charming and really fun. I recommend it, strongly recommend it 2112 01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:14,239 if you have like a. 2113 01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,000 Speaker 2: It looks like a fun funnel twist on the prop 2114 01:39:17,039 --> 01:39:17,560 pun genre. 2115 01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:21,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm into it. I'm gonna try to get good 2116 01:39:21,079 --> 01:39:23,039 enough at drawing to be able to do this, but 2117 01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,079 I guess you know that'll make it fun as well. 2118 01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:30,319 Speaker 4: A million's like meke up with two seas two seas yep, yeah, 2119 01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:31,600 and Chamelion. 2120 01:39:31,279 --> 01:39:33,880 Speaker 1: Like I mean that's popping off. That's like one of 2121 01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:35,279 the top sellers on Steam right now. 2122 01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,479 Speaker 2: People. I've seen them do funny stuff where it's like, 2123 01:39:39,399 --> 01:39:43,119 for example, like I saw someone there's like a level 2124 01:39:43,159 --> 01:39:45,439 with water in it, and so since your guys sort 2125 01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:48,680 of like stick figury, they just did splayed out on 2126 01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:51,960 the bottom of the water and painted themselves pink with 2127 01:39:52,199 --> 01:39:54,479 green shorts and they were just trying to hide in 2128 01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:59,119 as Patrick Starr on the bottom, I saw them like 2129 01:39:59,159 --> 01:40:01,800 what like sort of in sort of like an L 2130 01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:05,279 shape and sort of extend a Japanese character. They like 2131 01:40:05,279 --> 01:40:07,399 painted themselves all black and tried to be like, well, 2132 01:40:07,399 --> 01:40:11,560 you know, Japanese, you're not gonna know that this isn't right. Yeah, 2133 01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:12,760 that real get clever with it. 2134 01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:15,760 Speaker 1: The one I saw that, like, other than people being 2135 01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:17,760 like very good at the art so that they can 2136 01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:19,520 like be in front of the Mona Lisa and just 2137 01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:21,600 look like it's the Mona Lisa, which is is very 2138 01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:24,840 impressive and cool, there was one where three people work together. 2139 01:40:25,319 --> 01:40:27,840 They saw a turtle inflatable I think by the pool 2140 01:40:28,399 --> 01:40:31,000 and the like, and they pieced themselves together and like 2141 01:40:31,039 --> 01:40:33,960 painted themselves to like look like another one of those turtles. 2142 01:40:34,399 --> 01:40:37,680 That was very good, all right, Yeah, like I said, 2143 01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:39,560 that's gonna do it. I think we got a maybe 2144 01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:41,520 some more super chat shown. I'm not sure we sure did. 2145 01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:46,920 Speaker 2: Actually yes, yes from one j Man zero six two 2146 01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:52,399 five Birthday tax Thank you John, Happy birthday, Eh, Happy birthday, 2147 01:40:54,159 --> 01:40:57,640 Jedi Moss four. Do we think Rhythm Heaven is the 2148 01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:01,680 last notable first party game for Switch one? 2149 01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:05,520 Speaker 1: So like they they do this every generation, but like 2150 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:08,079 as part of the price increase. I think when they 2151 01:41:08,119 --> 01:41:11,479 were talking to investors, they were suggesting that they would 2152 01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:14,800 keep supporting the Switch one. I think I'm still in 2153 01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,439 the I'll believe it when I see it category with 2154 01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:22,199 that stuff, Sean, but I'm I'll say there's gonna be 2155 01:41:22,239 --> 01:41:25,479 one more like equivalent level Switch one game from them. 2156 01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:30,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds right to me. I think notable being 2157 01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:33,159 the keyword in your Superju Jedi. I think that's right. 2158 01:41:33,199 --> 01:41:36,600 It might be the last notable one. There might be something. 2159 01:41:36,239 --> 01:41:38,560 Speaker 1: Else could be fair. Yeah, the DS is the third 2160 01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:41,399 pillar exactly. Marino's thinking the exact same thing I was. Yeah, 2161 01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:42,520 they just say these things. 2162 01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Slippery Moose Cakes says the people want to know 2163 01:41:49,119 --> 01:41:51,520 if it. I'm assuming I believe came in when you 2164 01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:54,520 were talking about the Retroid Pocket and Nova. The people 2165 01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:57,119 want to know if it can play Pajama Sam in 2166 01:41:57,239 --> 01:42:02,439 four k at FPS. Also, not to get political, but 2167 01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:04,479 have you ever gotten a double killing Halo. 2168 01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:06,680 Speaker 1: Double quill? 2169 01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:08,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2170 01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one voice I can do. Yeah, sure, absolutely, 2171 01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:18,439 and I'm proud of it. Yeah. Well, what was the 2172 01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:19,399 first to comment they made there? 2173 01:42:19,399 --> 01:42:22,560 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Pajama Sam, don't you worry? Pajama Sam and 2174 01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,439 nine to sixty p don't you worry? It's gonna be great? 2175 01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:28,239 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, awesome? Any other super chats? 2176 01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:32,159 Speaker 2: Yes, Ali Miracle. They should bring vm us back. 2177 01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:36,760 Speaker 1: They should. They absolutely should. I uh amuse rule. You 2178 01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:38,479 know I got the one I do. I did order 2179 01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:42,159 a VMU Pro because it's it'll be handy for saving 2180 01:42:42,199 --> 01:42:43,920 all these games instead of having like one of those 2181 01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:47,880 four X expansion packs. But man, vm us are awesome. 2182 01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:50,319 They're so cool. I was like explaining to my kids 2183 01:42:50,319 --> 01:42:52,760 all about it and being like, heyy, because people take 2184 01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:54,800 this to school and raise their chow and try not 2185 01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:57,199 to get it taken away by the teacher, and they're like, hmm, 2186 01:42:57,359 --> 01:42:59,840 really that's interesting. I'm like, we'll see. Maybe if you 2187 01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:01,600 got want to play Sonic this summer, maybe we can 2188 01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:01,840 do that. 2189 01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Zombie Porin back with nar one. Does the M 2190 01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:09,520 two slot for the superstation work yet? And I'm gonna 2191 01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:12,880 say probably not. Yeah, I'm gonna assume not. 2192 01:43:14,159 --> 01:43:16,560 Speaker 1: Right, So many of those things aren't that it's just 2193 01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:17,479 safe to assume it's not. 2194 01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:20,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's like I said, it's it sucks and 2195 01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,239 they should not have done things this way. I really 2196 01:43:23,239 --> 01:43:25,920 wish they would just like delay the superstation a little 2197 01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:28,760 bit when shipping, if the console UI that has some 2198 01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:32,399 of the features that you pay for, if it's not 2199 01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:35,039 ready to go. Like I I do think that this 2200 01:43:35,119 --> 01:43:38,239 whole experience with Retro Remake and you know, Taki making 2201 01:43:38,279 --> 01:43:41,159 the company he's done like a couple of post mortemsie 2202 01:43:41,159 --> 01:43:43,359 the YouTube channel, I think it was a big learning 2203 01:43:43,399 --> 01:43:45,960 experience of like, oh, yeah, this ship is hard. It's 2204 01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:48,159 not you know, we can armchair all we want, but 2205 01:43:48,279 --> 01:43:50,199 actually is really difficult to do a lot. Yeah, So 2206 01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,279 I think they're learning, and it does seem like they 2207 01:43:53,279 --> 01:43:55,720 are like slowly starting to like actually roll out everything 2208 01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,119 they promised. But yeah, it's just unfortunate that not everything 2209 01:43:58,199 --> 01:44:00,680 is there as promised from day one on for sure, 2210 01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:04,600 and then last one here is a grant NP was 2211 01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,600 a member or is a member for nine months now, 2212 01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:10,119 so thank you for that, Grant, And the message on 2213 01:44:10,159 --> 01:44:13,760 it was, what TV slash monitor do you all use. 2214 01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,920 I'm in the market for a mid budget TV, would 2215 01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:19,720 like some advice, but also curious how much displays really 2216 01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:22,760 matter to you, Jeff, I feel like they matter less 2217 01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:24,239 to you if you want to go first. 2218 01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:29,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I look for a TV. All I want 2219 01:44:29,359 --> 01:44:32,399 is one that I'm not gonna hate, and turns out 2220 01:44:32,399 --> 01:44:36,720 there's not a lot right now, I'll be curious. It's 2221 01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:38,960 like a mid range TV. If there's one that people 2222 01:44:39,039 --> 01:44:42,039 do recommend that it's not going to be super frustrating 2223 01:44:42,079 --> 01:44:44,520 if you're trying to do anything like on the TV itself. 2224 01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:46,880 But all these smart TVs are so shitty that the 2225 01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,840 one I got the I can't remember what it is upstairs, 2226 01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,000 but like the board broke on it. So now every 2227 01:44:53,039 --> 01:44:55,119 time I use it's like, hey, your memory is getting 2228 01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:57,840 full on here, and it's not. This is just what 2229 01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:02,119 happens when the board breaks and the I have a 2230 01:45:02,119 --> 01:45:04,359 audio system connected to that and that doesn't work anymore 2231 01:45:04,359 --> 01:45:07,399 because of the same reason, and all like the Sony 2232 01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:10,479 TV never does an HD in my handshake. Right, it 2233 01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:13,640 will do it once, maybe twice, and then the third 2234 01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:15,600 time I go to turn on that TV and a console, 2235 01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:17,840 it's like, I don't know, there's nothing connected, and I 2236 01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:20,520 have to restart the TV, like completely reboot it. And 2237 01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:24,199 that's what gets the HDCP to happen again. It's so frustrating. 2238 01:45:25,239 --> 01:45:27,640 Speaker 2: Well, so i'd say it's an LGO lead, right, and 2239 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:30,199 you're having problems with your LGO lead that you purchased. 2240 01:45:31,039 --> 01:45:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish, I wish I had an LG O red. 2241 01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:35,359 That's the thing I need to do. So that's where 2242 01:45:35,359 --> 01:45:37,600 I'm at. I'm like, it's time to just like slowly 2243 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:40,319 replace all these TVs as I can afford it with 2244 01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,239 lg O leads, because that seems to be the one 2245 01:45:43,279 --> 01:45:45,840 TV everyone agrees that actually can put up with it. 2246 01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:49,039 And then I'm my computers. You know, decent fourteen forty 2247 01:45:49,039 --> 01:45:53,760 p one hundred and sixty five hrtz monitors. The brand 2248 01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,760 is KTC and they have done just fine by me. 2249 01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:01,199 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm more of a stickler about these things, 2250 01:46:01,239 --> 01:46:03,720 and like I do a stupid amount research, Like no 2251 01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:05,800 one should do amount of research. So let me help 2252 01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:07,359 you with the amount of research I've done. 2253 01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:07,760 Speaker 1: Please. 2254 01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:10,760 Speaker 2: You know, I follow a lot of digital foundry in 2255 01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:12,880 my life and gaming, so a long time ago they 2256 01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:15,319 sent me down the right path. And like I was 2257 01:46:15,399 --> 01:46:19,000 giving jeffalocraft for this, but legit, don't buy TV unless 2258 01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,000 it's an lg O lead. If you draw the money 2259 01:46:21,039 --> 01:46:23,680 for an lg OLED, save up until the mind for 2260 01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,960 an lg OLED. But they're also they're getting very reasonable. 2261 01:46:27,199 --> 01:46:29,640 You said a mid budget TV. They do start at 2262 01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:31,720 like six hundred now, which I would consider is still 2263 01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:33,840 in that mid budget range, maybe the upper end of 2264 01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:36,680 mid budget. Yeah, like that's six hundreds, like mid budget 2265 01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:39,119 six undreds. Yes, yeah, Like I'm looking at best Buy 2266 01:46:39,199 --> 01:46:41,520 right now, and this is in This is fifty dollars 2267 01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:44,479 off the sale price for the sale price, but forty 2268 01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:47,399 eight inch is around six hundred bucks. That forty eight 2269 01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:50,079 inch old is really all you need, like unless you 2270 01:46:50,079 --> 01:46:51,920 have like a really big living room, which in that 2271 01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:55,920 case you can probably afford a bigger one. But get 2272 01:46:55,920 --> 01:47:01,479 the lg O lead. It's you won't regret. It's like saying, yeah, 2273 01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:03,920 can I get a B or should I like? 2274 01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:06,359 Speaker 1: Because my own understand is, like the B processor, you're 2275 01:47:06,359 --> 01:47:09,479 gonna regret it. So just get the C I have. 2276 01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:12,960 Speaker 2: A B eight here from twenty eighteen, still serving me 2277 01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:13,800 good to this day. 2278 01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:15,479 Speaker 1: That's all I need to hear. That's what I need 2279 01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:15,720 to hear. 2280 01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:19,000 Speaker 2: All right, great, Yeah, like I at this point, I 2281 01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,479 don't even know what the difference is between the various classes. 2282 01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:23,399 I think it might be like the quality of the 2283 01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:28,000 post processing, which I turn off anyways, right, so yeah, yeah, 2284 01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:30,560 you can definitely go at the entry level one, and 2285 01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:33,880 I would say not regret for my monitor. I also 2286 01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,560 finally have an O Lead monitor. I got at the 2287 01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:40,640 Samsung G six I got on sale. I got on sales, 2288 01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:42,479 so it was like a woot. I stacked a couple 2289 01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:45,600 of deals I got for like three fifty, so I 2290 01:47:45,680 --> 01:47:48,399 love it. The fourteen forty P two hundred and forty 2291 01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:50,720 hurts O Lead and that's the sweet spot for motors. 2292 01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:53,239 That's like what MSI is doing nowadays with their oleads, 2293 01:47:54,159 --> 01:47:56,479 this Samsung one and a bunch of our brands, even 2294 01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:59,920 like aoc as a cheap one as well. Definitely look 2295 01:48:00,079 --> 01:48:03,720 for like a fourteen forty P O LED monitor and 2296 01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:06,840 they're usually gonna be between one hundred and twenty and 2297 01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:09,600 three hundred and sixty herds, so like I do a 2298 01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,600 little shopping around, but that's what I would recommend at 2299 01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:13,000 this point. 2300 01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and those Samsungs are they've made a lot of those, 2301 01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,680 so yeah, they should keep actually coming down in price 2302 01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:22,119 if things don't go insane over there on that side 2303 01:48:22,159 --> 01:48:25,479 of things as well. So yeah, all right, very cool. 2304 01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,079 Any other any other super chats? 2305 01:48:27,359 --> 01:48:30,439 Speaker 2: Nope, that's it. We're all caught up, Jeff, excellent. 2306 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:34,399 Speaker 1: All right, Well let's start getting out of here. Thank 2307 01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:38,119 you everybody for watching. Turn this music. Oh you know what? 2308 01:48:39,119 --> 01:48:44,079 That broke too? Huh? They got rerouted? All right's they 2309 01:48:44,159 --> 01:48:44,560 can't do it. 2310 01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:45,920 Speaker 3: I got what's going to sing him? 2311 01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:46,560 Speaker 2: And I can't. 2312 01:48:47,199 --> 01:48:52,720 Speaker 1: THEE should come in there. There we go, all right, 2313 01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:54,319 I fixed it. I had to go to stream deck. 2314 01:48:54,399 --> 01:48:56,239 Let me just you know what. Let's do that now, 2315 01:48:56,319 --> 01:48:58,279 all right for the intro, So I don't next week 2316 01:48:58,279 --> 01:48:59,720 try to start the show and it doesn't work. But 2317 01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:03,199 that on the right bus. There we go. We're welcome future. Jeff, 2318 01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:06,800 all right, thanks you, thank you everybody for listening. Thank 2319 01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:09,279 you for tuning in and watching along with us tonight. 2320 01:49:09,319 --> 01:49:12,720 We really appreciate it. Mike should be back for Nintendogs 2321 01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:19,680 next week. We should have besides next week because Friday 2322 01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:21,439 is kind of when the holiday starts and when I 2323 01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:24,359 might be traveling, so we should be good, although it 2324 01:49:24,399 --> 01:49:26,279 could be hectic. We'll see. But Sean, thank you so 2325 01:49:26,399 --> 01:49:27,920 much for hanging out with me tonight. Man, that was 2326 01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:30,119 awesome when you tell people where they could find you 2327 01:49:30,159 --> 01:49:30,479 and all that. 2328 01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, it is a fun time. And if you 2329 01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,359 want more fun times, go on over to twitch dot 2330 01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:40,479 tv slash Turbo Shan. I stream on Saturdays and Sundays 2331 01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:43,119 at noon Central and I upload the VODs or it's 2332 01:49:43,119 --> 01:49:47,000 a YouTube channel of the same name, Turbo Shan Shawn. 2333 01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:51,079 And yeah, like I said, go check out that superstation 2334 01:49:51,199 --> 01:49:53,000 video on my YouTube channel if any of that sound 2335 01:49:53,079 --> 01:49:54,800 interesting to you, or you just want to hang out 2336 01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:57,600 and watch some retro games and like chill vibes. I 2337 01:49:58,119 --> 01:50:01,920 try to keep the twitch chat, you know, sane and 2338 01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:05,479 comfy and cozy because the Internet sucks and I want 2339 01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,319 a nice place where people can hang out. Everyone is 2340 01:50:08,359 --> 01:50:11,439 welcome and we actively punt out anyone who tries to 2341 01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,119 cause trouble, so I come hang out with us. 2342 01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:20,000 Speaker 1: I did have an LG and an lgc X. I 2343 01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:23,079 think I think I had that one. They lent it 2344 01:50:23,119 --> 01:50:24,920 to me to review, and then I had to send 2345 01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:26,680 it back and it was always like such a penlank 2346 01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:29,159 I had it. Why do I don't want to buy it? 2347 01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:32,279 It's expensive? I should have just bought it. It was 2348 01:50:32,359 --> 01:50:37,359 really really great. It was a really good TV sound. Yeah. Yeah, 2349 01:50:37,399 --> 01:50:40,760 and then Sony's actually did send one and then, uh, 2350 01:50:41,039 --> 01:50:42,880 the reason they let me keep that one is because 2351 01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:45,039 it's a piece of shit. It's garbash. I'm the pan 2352 01:50:45,239 --> 01:50:50,680 right now. Yeah yeah, all right, well, thank you once 2353 01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:54,399 again everybody. You know, we'll be back into them that 2354 01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:56,319 next time. Until then, have a good one, take care 2355 01:50:56,359 --> 01:51:00,880 of yourself and goodbye, bye monster of the deep. Tomorrow 2356 01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:01,760 it's gonna happen. 2357 01:51:02,199 --> 01:51:10,680 Speaker 2: Yes, finally, you would. 2358 01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:19,119 Speaker 5: Probably have to man for so long have fantasize about 2359 01:51:19,119 --> 01:51:25,319 sucking their own dick a penis. 2360 01:51:29,279 --> 01:51:32,119 Speaker 1: Make sure you get a good People shouldn't drink water. 2361 01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:35,520 That could be a fun thing to pull out, you know, 2362 01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:36,720 once every year. 2363 01:51:40,960 --> 01:51:41,920 Speaker 3: The Southern ending is