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Speaker 1: In today's episode, Steam Machine review kind of sort of,
I've started messing around with it a little bit. Layoffs
at Bungee Star Fox is back Jack. But first, Sean,
how are you doing?
Speaker 2: Been better? Jeff? Been better? Shitty news day, A lot happening,
A lot of the street continues. Mike Minati nowhere to
be found when all the bad news happened, so I
have to talk about it. Thanks for that.
Speaker 1: I think he might be behind it all. He's orchestrating,
he's pulling the strings.
Speaker 2: I think he just he knows so he knows the
town so he can dodge that. So I'm here tonight.
You know everything's going up in price. No one can't
afford shit. They lay at the end of the tunnel.
I was gonna watch my good friend Jeff Grubb play
Monster of the def Faull fantasy right now right eye
bombed today. Then ug knockou Waltz is into your basement
with a fucking gun, shoots your PS four pros SSC
and says.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it working. Now we'll try so we'll
try again tomorrow. Uh shit, it looked pretty cool. That
Monster of the Deep was scary. I just got to
the title screen. I don't know if that was actually
the Monster of the Deep, but there was.
Speaker 2: Definitely seriously right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean there was a bunch of fish, but
there was one especially scary one. We'll see. Uh yeah, yeah,
we'll play some of that. It's man, who knew fishing
was going to keep me so busy. It's definitely kept
me on my toes back. I know, I haven't had
time for much else actually, but yeah, it's been fun
over there, having a good time doing that. But you're right, Sean,
it's a healthscape and we're going to talk about it.
It's kind of going to be Today's show kind of
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With all that out of the way, let's go ahead
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That's right, we're back everybody, and the big topics of
the week is you know, there's actually several kind of
things that are worth talking about. Let's start with Valve.
Let's start with the Steam machine. We did get the
price for that one fifty dollars for the base model,
which is without a Steam controller and five hundred and
twelve gigabytes of storage, no verys in the processor or
GPU or anything like that, as expected. The two terabyte
model is the variation here. You can get one of
those for thirteen forty nine. Then if you do want
either of those with the controller, you are going to
be talking about eleven twenty eight and fourteen twenty eight respectively. Yes,
woof indeed, but these this is the range I think
we were kind of expecting in the last few weeks
as we kept watching this can get kicked down the
road and all of the component prices continuing to go
up and continuing to spread into other areas and continuing
to spread like sort of downward into other products. It's like, Okay,
it's getting worse, not getting any better. There is no relief.
Every time it does feel like the AI bubble might burst,
which is not going to solve this overnight by any means.
That doesn't happen. That also keeps getting kicked down the road.
So these companies have to a certain point just like
pick the price that they can live with in the
medium term. And so here we are. It's get on arrival,
is the thing I keep hearing people say, and I
think that might be overstating it a little bit. Yeah,
but it's also for most people that's how they feel.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, this is like, like you mentioned, if
you were paying attention, this is roughly how much we
expect it to cost, maybe even a little less, because
maybe this is just this is just how much a
computer costs nowadays everybody like people have done the math.
Gamers and Nexus and Digital Foundry both did the math
and think PC world. They also did some pricing out
of stuff, and if you built a PC roughly on
equivalent with the Steam machine, roughly on par with it,
it comes out to about thousand dollars, So you know,
depending on how much you want to cheap out on
like a case of maybe a lesser brand of power supply,
simpler motherboard or stuff like that. Even if you cheap out,
they're really only charging you like one hundred dollars premium
to basically have a pre built PC and one with
the unique hardware features like you know, beyond turnout with
the control or and even that small form factor. It is,
you know, a little bit bigger than a GameCube, but
it is p S five level of fidelity. So yeah,
like this is just how much that costs nowadays, they're
not taking people for a ride. That's just where we're
at exactly. There's there's more of this subject that may
we'll talk about in a second here, but everything's going
up across the board and nobody, no company can achieve
profitability without raising their prices as much. They Valve said
that if you look at the Steam deck and how
much they increase that price, well, you know, they couldn't
commit to something, but they said, you can maybe do
the math to figure out how much they had to
raise the Steam machine buy and it would have so
that means that like working backwards, it will have come
out to like maybe around seven fifty I think is
what most people are landing on, and that sounds right.
For like, if you take the pre rise price of
a PS five and compare that to a seven hundred
and fifty dollars Steam machine, that's roughly equivalent to like,
I think that the basic nap can map tends to
be roughly two hundred ish, maybe three hundred more or
a PC for the equivalent, like level of console performance
is usually what it is the difference between the two.
So this would have made sense, and so the price
increase makes sense, as we see with other companies, including
the console makers raising the prices proportionately as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am as you said, well, we'll get into that,
and you know, we know this. We can talk it
through and explain it and get you know, and at
a lower price. And it's like, you know, the PS
five Pro is a lower price, and this is a
lower price. When you're like, ah, you know, it's not
as powerful as a PS five Pro and the PS
five pros a little bit less money. I think people
are still like, yeah, but I can get on PC
and get a bunch of PC games I've always wanted
to play and I've not been in the PC ecosystem.
They could still talk themselves into it a little bit.
At this price, it's like, well, I'm clearly choosing one
or the other. Maybe if I even feel like I'm
capable of producing that amount of money to buy something.
And at that point, I gotta feel like the PS
five Pro is going to be a better deal because
I'm going to be getting better visuals in most games,
and it has most of the games that I want
to play. And that's you know, that's the conversation that
was probably always going to play out to some extent
for most people, but it just feels exacerbated by these
very high numbers that we're seeing right now.
Speaker 2: It's no longer a commodity.
Speaker 1: It's an investment, luxury, luxury good, not a commodity. Nope. Yes,
and that's because the things that are going inside these things,
which were very commodified over decades of sort of refinement,
they have become like but you could put a thing
of a stick of ram on a necklace right now
it is jewelry. It is just insane what has happened.
And to that end, there's not you know, the light
at the end of the tunnel isn't really there for
this stuff in any real way. We just don't expect
this stuff to be solved anytime soon the next two
three years, and then when we do get on the
other side, it's probably not going to be like it was.
Maybe ever like it might never be like it was.
And that's the real that's the real kicker here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to talk about the other price increases
that we saw today as sort of by comparison, I
don't think we have in the rundown, but we talk.
Speaker 1: About Yeah, yeah, let me actually get the details here
real quick.
Speaker 2: So broadly speaking, Apple announced price increases, and in general
it's like one hundred to two hundred dollars per product
based on how much the starting price was. Xbox is
the pasetek, Yeah yeah, Xbox is the big one. Xbox
also announced price increases today. That's the third price increase.
They didn't even announce MSRPs. They didn't say what the
new MSRPs are. They just said for items in the
stack that cost or that have five hundred and twelve
gigabytes of stores, they would go up by one hundred,
and items that are one terror byte go up by
one fifty and two terror By models are discontinued. So
if you actually do the math there, and I had
to like look up like the MSRPs of each one
because I'm like, wait, how much were each of these
after the price increase? So, if I'm getting it right,
the Series S went up to four hundred, which means
that the Series S will now cost five hundred dollars
and the Series X is now six point fifty. That's
gonna be an eight hundred dollars console for the baseline
Series X.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is, Sean, that is deeply What do you
even need to talk after that line, Mike drop after
saying exactly, I mean, that's that is unreasonable. That is unacceptable,
maybe is the better way of saying it. It's flabbergasting
because we were not selling a lot of these things anyhow,
and so's and they know that. So they're not doing
this unless they unless they have to to a certain extent.
And at the same time, Sean, I think there is
a little bit of if we're gonna do this, we
gotta do it now because Grand Theft Auto six is
our last chance to sort of get in before the
door closes. Yeah, and I think that they think they
can maybe get away with things a little bit more
because of that. Now, you know, this is the manufacturer
suggested retail price. These things are going to get discounted
a lot, I bet you know, discounted from the current
the new price back down to the prices that we
kind of have maybe right now. And but that's you know,
it's all about raising that average sales price, and this
will lead to that. But yeah, I mean this, there's
rumors still that they're going to PlayStation somebody's going to
watch a PlayStation six next year the helix? Would that
come next year as well or the year after that
even And that just seems like you can't do that
right now. How is that going to possibly be? How
are you gonna have the capability to actually pull that off?
It doesn't seem like it's possible right now.
Speaker 2: I thought this through a lot today while I was
running errands, and I want to do a thought experiment
with you, Jeff. Please gut reaction, not necessarily analyzing or
going off of an info or anything like that. Gut reaction.
How much do you think the PlayStation six costs?
Speaker 1: I think the PlayStation six is going to be nine
to ninety nine. I think they're going to try to
keep it on three.
Speaker 2: Thousands, yeah, or like right there. So I was thinking about,
I think we need to like look at the PS
four Pro to try to like figure some of this
stuff out. The PS four Pro came in at four
hundred dollars went launched, which was the old MSRP of
the PS four when that launched, so it took the
new MSRP Xbox One at the price.
Speaker 1: That was the whole idea.
Speaker 2: Exactly one x. The equivalent Pro console was a one
hundred dollars premium over the MRP. Yeah, it came at
five hundred dollars so, and that was a much more
powerful console though, so you got what you were paying
for with the extra one hundred over the original MSRP.
When the psfive Pro came out, it was two hundred
dollars more than the MSRP of the PS five. It
did not replace the PS five's MSRP. It wasn't even
a little bit of a premium. It was two hundred
dollars more for the digital only addition. People often throw
around the price for just the base Pro equivalent experience,
it's seven to fifty. It was a two hundred and
fifty dollars premium for the version with the discard.
Speaker 1: The Pro even come with the stand, so it's like
more than that, it's like seven eighty. I think we'll
hire something.
Speaker 2: I think it comes with, like ay stand, I forget
it might be like the little plastic feet that you
get with the Slim nowadays. Sure, But the point I'm
getting at with all this is that, so the PS
five did not replace the PS four pros MSRP. They
went with a higher price for the base PS five.
PS five Pro went even higher. They didn't replace the
PS five. So PS five Pro is now nine hundred dollars.
There's no way it's going to be less than that,
Like there's they can't get it below that because it
needs to either replace or be above that. If it's
a more powerful console. I think, yeah, we are looking
at a thousand dollars machine if they launched the next year,
even if they launched them like two years at this.
Speaker 1: Point, and like, I think, it's like it is even
more black and white than that. That A lot of times,
the whole point of these midgen consoles is to set
up the pricing of the next generation. It is to
make sure that they can keep a higher price in
mind so that the anchor pricing, which is something that
the economists that work at all these companies think about
a lot. Where's the anchor for the consumer? What are
they thinking about when they think of console? What numbers
in their head? And these pro models help push that
price way higher so that they can't. They gives them
wiggle room. Right if things were rosy right now and
everyone was making a ton of money and everything was cheap,
and they could launch a console at a reduced price,
they would they probably would try to do that. We
saw a little bit of a chicken game of chicken
between Xbox and PlayStation when it came to launching the
ps F five and the Xbox Series X. At the time,
they both were probably like, could we get away with
six hundred? They both held off to the last minute.
They both settled on five hundred because no one wanted
to be the six hundred dollars console and the other
one be five hundred. It would have been rough. So
they did that. So there was some competition there that
has definitely been you know, mitigated, if not eliminated. And
then there's all these other concerns and they would tell you,
they would rank all of those other concerns way higher.
And so now that they give it, they've given themselves
that wiggle room with the PS five pro pricing, they're
gonna use it. You're right, No way that it will
be cheaper than nine hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it it might, it might not be able
to be. Yeah, when like when the Xbox News came out, naturally,
a bunch of people were like, oh fuck Xbox you know,
oh they Microsoft couldn't take a hit on this one,
or a where like that. It's the same thing. It
drove me crazy when people are doing that with the
Steam Machine, saying like fu Valve, I hope this thing fails.
I hope he show Valve. Oh Gabe, you know needs
to buy in our yacht or whatever. No, that's just
how much the computer costs. Like that's just straight up
component pricing, and they break like m.
Speaker 1: I brought this up a long time ago. Can't remember
wh I originally heard it, but someone else said it,
but it was like definitely something like yeah, that's right,
that's a computer. Sure it's running Linux, but you couldn't
install Windows on it. But it runs Linux. It's a
computer if it was cheaper they subsidized it. Businesses could
just buy those things up and make that their business
computer and not buy any games. And that is a
harding for these companies to deal with. They would not
want to be the one subsidizing computers for a bunch
of businesses.
Speaker 2: And also, like stevepoint on the Gamers Taxes video, there
are person of the world where Valve is under scrutiny
of being monopoly still, and so they need to start
speaking like, you know, we support open ecosystems, which they
genuinely do, you know, making a bunch of their stuff.
Speaker 1: So their defense mechanism it's you know, there's it's twofold
there at Valve, and you know I kind of know this.
But also you could just tell by looking at them
that they do believe in open ecosystems and the lawyers
they are like, you know, this helps us, This definitely
benefits us. For the problems that I'm looking at that
I think could be an issue, we need to say
we're open and actually mean it. And so yeah, they're.
Speaker 2: Still the capitalism baby. They still steal money, like they
don't care how you give them the money, as long
as you give them the money. So if they can
get good pr and get your money, that's what they're
going to do. And that's frankly, how like most business
issould just be yeah, just give us the money and
we'll like make you happy in return. Win win for
everybody involved. But specifically, the reason I brought this up
in relation to Xbox is because they need Xbox. Welcome
me here. Xbox needs to raise the price on these things.
While whereas like Microsoft could take the hit, Xbox can't
because the console cannot be subsidized, like by two hundred
dollars or something like that. Because if Microsoft sees that
Xbox doesn't exist anymore, these things need to be at least,
you know, moderately profitable or break even on the hardware
somewhere around there. Otherwise the consoles do not exist. And
so that's why Xbox has to do this as a division,
despite the fact that parent company Microsoft is contributing to
the reason that the prices aren't going up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that that's you know, of course, that's
why this is all a clown show. It's it's just
a nightmare. It is completely like when you just look
at it on its face, it's so frustrating to have
to go through this byzantine way that it all works.
But you're right, and we know that they aren't making
any money their their profit margins at three percent is
what they've flat out stated. They can't lie about that
because that's stuff that could be taking this as lined
to investors. So three percent profit margin is nothing. It's
not a profit margin at all, you know, especially as
we see inflation is at four percent right now surrounding Yes, yes, exactly, Yeah,
and so they're making this little money as they possibly
can make. And yeah, and then again, people can make
all the points they want about Microsoft having all the money.
You're right, if Xbox is losing money, they will just
stop making those consoles, and they kind of want to
keep making those consoles so they can justify some sort
of future for that business. And I don't know, I
also think that Microsoft just wouldn't let them because eventually
they might think about offloading Xbox or finding some way
for it to spend off on its own, and that
telling the story of it being an ecosystem is still
going to matter, and that'll still yeah. So but if that, hey,
if that means when you see these price increases happening,
you go, fuck this, I don't want to be a
part of that. That's fair. That's definitely how I'm feeling
a lot of times. Yes, I'm just like I'm gonna
go find all these other old games I have laying
around and just kind of enjoy the hobby side of
this instead of the business side of it and trying
to keep up with the Joneses. And you know, it's
a little bit of a benefit of the Giant bomb
job and we can kind of make playing video games
whatever we want over there. That's nice, but also we
do want to try to keep up. People are interested
in new games. The demand is certainly there, and that
goes back to these companies are hoping they can play
on the demand that is already there. That will be
amped up by Grand Theft Auto six, which it did
go up for pre orders today, and I bet there
was quite a few people who did show up for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think we have end the rundown, but
there's also a bunch of hullabaloo with that. Thanks for
playing our thing as you did, though, Christian, Yeah, we
appreciate it, you yep. But yeah, so it's eighty dollars
and if you buy a physical copy, it's a code
in a box.
Speaker 3: Motherfuckers.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm about to crash out because these fucking did
loser coping me like, oh, the game is too big
to be in the disk, Like are you stupid?
Speaker 3: They don't want you to own shit. That's that's the thing.
Speaker 4: They don't want you for the copy to be yours,
to do whatever the fuck you want with it. They
don't want you to sell it again. They don't want
you to borrow it, to give it away.
Speaker 3: They don't want about that.
Speaker 1: It's not even like all day out the prevent leaks. Sure,
shit ask, it's about the second hand market.
Speaker 2: Look, I never like to hand it to Activision, and
I don't want to do it here. But at least
when I bought that copy of Black Ops six, then
still black Ops O on my machine. At least it
was a disc. It didn't have shit on it, but
I had a license for Black Ops six. So if
I want to sell that piece of shit because I'm
sick of what did to my PS five, I can
go over to my local store and trade it and
get like out of fifteen bucks for it or whatever
it's worth. Nowadays, you can't do that with GTAA six.
You are going to be locked in with that code
on your console account that God forbid you do it
bad with that and get banned because they're just out
eighty bucks or whatever. But holy moly, that is just
that is a stupid move by them, eight, I should say,
and in Genia's business move.
Speaker 1: But us and the probably correct that they are the
ones that can get away with it. And oh yeah,
because because they'll just say, hey, what are you going
to do? Now? Play Grand Theft Auto six? And I
know a lot of people in our audience are going
to say, yeah, I'm not gonna play this. And it's like, yeah,
there's a chance you probably weren't going to anyhow, And
and we kind of are, we are arounding there in
that situation. Yeah, Like the audience for that game is
so so huge, and them throwing their weight around in
such a way that is obvious to anyone with eyes.
And then like also like the Ultimate Edition just seems
so stupid, Like this idea of the big differentiator being
there are five in world shops, in game shops that
you know, not for real money, just like the end
game currency that you can go into but only if
you have the ultimate addition. Feels like, man, that is
such a weird, fomo sort of driven decision that I
don't know, it feels outdated.
Speaker 2: Okay, you you don't play GTA as much as I do,
so I.
Speaker 1: Know I've always yeah, I never cared about cared about
the shops either.
Speaker 2: Just looking at this, like, I haven't looked at this
list yet, I missed that on GMM ther day, This
to me reads as it is a cosmetic bundle and
they're just going to present it as in game shops.
Still kind of weird that you just like won't be
able to enter the shops unless the war version that.
Speaker 1: Feels like a slightly like a dark pattern sort of
thing is just like, yeah, you're going to be in
that world and you're going to like walk up to
it and there's gonna be a button where you can
hit that to spend the extra twenty dollars or whatever,
and yeah, it's it's a weird way to do it.
Speaker 2: It's it's like, it's not the end of the world.
That's like I said, as far as I can tell,
it's just cosmetics. But even then, it's like it's a
it's a dark power way or present it like you said.
Speaker 1: Even yeah, and even it still feels a little like antiquate,
where it's like, is this the way that you're gonna
make people feel excited about your ultimate Edition? Your rock Star? Like,
don't you have some new ways of it? It's like, no,
they don't care.
Speaker 4: That's not what they used to give you, like knuckle
dusters and some ship and your they used to give
you weapons.
Speaker 1: The rumor is that by December there will be a
disc version on store shelves, and it's like yep, because
by then you are through the bulk of the people
that will want to have played this game and sell
it pretty quickly to get as much money back as
possible and honestly, and if they if they don't hit
those numbers, they could always just push the disc back
and just wait until they feel good about it. Because
that sucks. That's what they're doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Sun, Why is always gaming? What is always us
that we have to deal with this? Like if I
buy a Blu Ray with a movie, it comes with
the fucking movie and a code.
Speaker 3: Sometimes like they give you both.
Speaker 1: I know, they give you the movie and the code.
Speaker 4: If you if I could go and buy like a
this got an on Musa and they still.
Speaker 3: Come with the like even though netflick the movie.
Speaker 1: I tell you, the movie industry looks at the video
game industry such envy for all the ways that they
are able to monetize. They talk about it constantly, like
are there are there things we can do to be
more like games? And it's like, man, when you make
art and entertainment software, it creates so many opportunities to
to like nickel and dine people, and video game companies
have gotten very good. That is the business video games.
It's not making fun video games. It is making new
ways to monetize people. And that's what we've been in
for the last ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Jeff, I'm actually asking I don't know this. Do you
know the story of movies anywhere? And how we got
to that point because I thought I heard in passing
that was always just like the movie industry, you realize, oh,
people just aren't spending, so we need to work together
and get people into buying movies again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's like there was so much money
made from DVDs. My understanding is like, yes, they all
kind of were like we need to, like you said,
work together. I think I think like even like Walmart
stepped in, it was like a big part of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's like they bought Voodoo or something along
those lines.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I don't know exactly. I definitely don't
know the details of how that happened.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I think I think the cap at the
end of this whole discussion, these multiple topics that we've
had about, like how much everything costs and everything like that,
y'all just don't buy stuff. Like at the end of
the day, like really stop and think, why do you
buy a game at launch? What is the point of
buying a game at launch? It's probably because in your
online communities, everyone's talking about and everyone wants to be
up on a hot new thing. Just don't like that's
what your average person does. You know, here on the
Internet and our little bubbles, we all want to be
part of the conversation, you know, like for you and me, Jeff,
it's part of our job nowadays, of course. But like
if it's just average shoe on the street just either
buys the game if they have the money, or they
don't don't like it, maybe pick it up on Black
Riders something I think. Create a library is insane. My
local library. My local library has prime for like that
came out six months ago. Like, you know, you find
other ways to do this stuff. Don't go don't give
into the fomo. It's so easy to be mad about
all this shit, and you know what you should in
relation to especially we have an other topic here that
we'll talk about, I believe, Yeah, we'll talk about that.
There are things to actually be mad about.
Speaker 1: But at some.
Speaker 2: Point, you know, just just don't buy shit. Just be
okay with what you have. Be a patient gamer. You know,
there's like a whole subred for that and anything like that.
Buy games when they're on sale, like use the hardware
you can't afford. That's why mobile game is better than
ever before. People won't don't want to spat thousand dollars
on console, So to just wait it out, play retro games,
play older Triple A modern games, and just do what
you can out there. Yep, exactly.
Speaker 1: You know. I was like, is there like a way
to like create a friend group that like buys a
copy of the game and shares it, and so you
can't do that with Grand Theft Auto. I thought about
that motherfuckers. All right, let's see here. Yeah, Bunge announces
layoffs as an acknowledge is Destiny Too fell short of
expectations the layoffs. There was a Chris Curry, I believe over.
I think it was a game developer. I'm not sure.
Actually now found a filing with the Washington State like
labor department that said three hundred over three hundred people
were being laid off, So we kind of got a
number there, and that that was always kind of in
the range of what I was hearing two hundred to
four hundred, where it was just like they're going to
try to cut that studio in half because they aren't
making Destiny to anymore. They Marathon is not like taking
off in a way that sort of can replace like
that Destiny To and keep that that studio busy. They're
not working on Destiny three, and they're not going to
they like they said this this thing here, our next
projects are in the early incubation phase, and therefore we're
gonna have to cut jobs. Now. The CEO of Bungie
did resign since I posted the story in the game
this Morning's thing, Christian, I believe that that is correct.
Speaker 3: Right, Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was I've been busy NonStop today. But
I think that's right. Someone mentioned that, so like there's
some accountability. But again they're getting their golden handcuffed and
a lot of these situations. Is my camera broken? Cool?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying not to laugh as we do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always it's always the best image that it
can pause on. I think my face is just naturally
that way.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 1: I just love I'm having great computer days, is what's happening. Yeah,
I'll try to fix that hare in a second. But
Bungie is is in a weird spot. That's a studio
that doesn't make a lot of sense in the current
market because making games in the United States is hard.
The scale of the games that a company like Bungie
was going to make is astronomical, and Sony bulked at
any sort of suggestion, like any like number that a
Bunchie was thrown around for Destiny three was sort of like, no,
we can't do that. And now everyone's sort of at
a standstill. And the way we got here is the
people that were running Bungee when they were getting acquired
by Sony seemed to do everything they can to hide
the fact that this was always going to happen.
Speaker 2: M Like the studio was just always in trouble and
was always.
Speaker 1: A good studio just was like never it never like
made sense on paper. It was always this this like
too big and you know, mismanaged is the way to
put it.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, because you know when I look at something
like this, I'm always like, okay, so, uh, c suite,
where's your pay cut? Huh? Like what's happening there? Every
time something like this happens, I always look at like
people at the top, all right, who's getting fired? Who's
getting pay cuse? Well, oh, y'all, y'all ain't doing shit? Cool, wonderful, great,
glad to see it. I saw some one of the
major figures over there did like leave the company or whatever.
So it's like with Bungie, I don't want to like
stay too much and like get something wrong here because
I don't follow Bungie. So a lot of this is
like I'm he seeing together so much of the story
of this studio here and trying to figure out how
it all makes sense. And apparently it doesn't make sense
to know that shit makes sense anymore. But I'm always
curious of like how we got to the point of Marathon,
and like Marathon is not a bad game, but is
so clearly not what I think the vast majority of
people wanted from that, that studio, that company and everything
like that, and so I'm curious how they settled on
that and how, you know, in a post Destiny New World,
that's how that's the next project that they landed on.
Here is to see like if or how much PlayStation
had to do with that, and like the live service push.
I don't know about all that. I would like lean
on you a little bit to like educate me a
little bit, if you know more.
Speaker 1: Jeff, Yeah, I'm sorry. My computer's definitely dying as we're
doing this. What's the question again.
Speaker 2: How do we get Marathon? And we'll let us to
this point.
Speaker 1: Yes, So it's like it's definitely a situation where they
are they're trying to pitch things that that they can
that they can get through, and this is the one
that they could present in such a way to like
the leadership and you know, Sony at the same time
as they're like kind of working on this, as they're
getting acquired to say, hey, this whole idea of extraction
shooters is blowing up. And if we become the Fortnite
of extraction shooters, here's what that could mean for us.
This is the must and to make uh great my
computer is just give me all kinds of crazy USBA
sounds now, Sorry.
Speaker 4: Why don't we take a little break and then we
continue with the conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Ford, sure sounds good. We'll be right back. Okay,
back from the technical hiccup. It's been it's been a
week shot oh man, oh yeah, yeah, so much, so
much troubleshooting. Man, that at PS four in the PSVR.
I know I was telling you, but every single step
if something could have gone wrong, something did go wrong.
And that was after I was already frustrated because I
got a magical drive for the PS two and I
just kind of like, I didn't want to go through
the process of setting that up myself. So I got
something off ets and that that wasn't working, that was broken.
That was troubleshooting with that. So I went from that
into the PS four and then while I was setting
out the PS four, I'm like, something's wrong because anytime
I kind of touched these USB cables on this computer,
this camera shuts off and breaks obs and oh and
you know, it wasn't the camera. It wasn't the camera.
It was the Algado teleprompter monitor thing here that would
turn off and it would reset my windows or my monitors,
so everything would just be all over the place.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, that always sucks with
a monitor disconnecttions and messes up everything. I hate that
so much.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I was already super frustrated dealing with
other things that don't work, and I don't handle that
well anyhow. So it's been a lot of cortisol just
flooding my brain for the last day and a half.
But we can get through the rest of this, okay.
So we were talking about let's see, like how Marathon
happens and stuff like that. Yeah, it is. It just
comes down to that was the thing that they could
pitch to get the money they needed to make their
next game. That is the thing that they thought sounded
right to the people that were pulling the purse strings,
which was a combination of people at Bungie and Sony
and when like and you know, because it was the
extractor shooter that was hot and no one really knew
it was games as a service game. Obviously a bunch
of was going to be doing that, but that was
still hot enough that they could, you know, fool people.
And I think maybe the people that were really making
the game all along were like, look, this is not
going to be the Fortnite of Extraction shooters. Like it's
got maybe a one percent chance of doing that, and
here we are. It's it's exactly where you could probably
have predicted this game would have ended up. But they weren't.
They weren't making that. Like the game. The studio that
was making that game was not set up to make
a game that just did all right. They were set
up to make the Fortnite of extraction shooters. And so
now here we are, and they're.
Speaker 2: Because of people off size of the studio as it was.
Speaker 1: Size, Yes, the cost of running that studio where it's at,
and you know, they they I think they have a
lot of remote remote people. But still they pay very
well and that's that's that's good, but they, uh, it's
it's an expensive studio primarily when where you're at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Destiny too, when you may you're the studio that
made Destiny, and what'd you follow that up with Destiny
to which which is more of a two point zero
but still okay, that that all makes sense, got it?
Speaker 1: Yep? Uh, all right, let's see here a couple of
other things. We were going to talk about the valves
Steam ossh it's out right, like, can you go get
the image now? I wasn't sure. I know they said,
leave you can. Yes, So you need to have an
AMD CPU or GPUU.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Steam Us three point eight is out now there
you go.
Speaker 1: Okay, perfect, So yeah, yeah, you need an AMD GPU.
They said they're working with Nvidia to get the thing,
the drivers support all in place by next year, but
that's you know, that's still ways off. They're already working
with them AMD because that is their partner for the
Steam Machine, so that stuff is ready to go. So
you could build your own Steam machine right now. And
that is exciting, I think because Linux as a true
gaming platform continuing to grow is important for the long
term survival of the hobby as an alternative to Windows.
You know, we look at PC gaming as a sort
of a safe place from the consoles. But with the
way Windows is going, with Microsoft's ability to actually make
a product that is not sort of foundationally rotten due
to their their their vibe coding. That is not really
yet we can't really rely on that. Actually long term
Linux be an open source that there is a huge
opportunity to sort of preserve gaming long term that way,
and Valve at the very least is truly pushing that
they want. It's good for them, obviously what you talked
about it, you said is capitalism. They want the money.
It's good for them, but they are aligned at the
very least with kind of what is in the best
interest of gaming. Again, long term, this is this is
pretty neat.
Speaker 2: This is neat, and this is cool that First of all,
it's funny that they positioned it on like the FAQ
for the Steam machine. They were like, well, what do
I do if I can't get into the lottery or
if I don't w in the lottery to buy this thing. Well,
we got good news for you. You can build your own.
So a couple of things here. First of all, yes,
we do need to start moving towards Linux. And I
think people hear that and they're like, oh, I'm not
doing that. That's scary, that's like command line stuff and everything.
Maybe I'm doing my dam impression here. Who can say,
but people hear Linux and they get scared, y'all. I
swear as long as you pick a modern distribution that
everybody talks about, whether it be Ubuntu, Fedora, Cashi, Bazite,
you know those terms you may have heard, it is
legitimately pretty straightforward nowadays. Like as long as you don't
go super far off the being path, it actually is
very easy set up. Says if you were setting up
Windows on the gaming pc you sat for yourself. You're
not the comp person that build your own gaming pc, Well,
guess what, You're in the same situation because you were,
You're the person probably what boss steam machine? The same
same situation. But if you're if you're a diaire, then
we are at the point that you can you can
start using links because it has recent maturity and is
user friendly enough that you don't need to wait into
command line for a bunch of stuff like links. Mostly
links distributions have an app store, for example, yes, like that.
Speaker 1: The one, the one that is Steamulus will have that
one that has the discovery or I can't remember what
it's called.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the discovery is the standard for like Fedora based ones.
And then there's a different.
Speaker 1: Arch Linx or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Arch doesn't really have one, which is the problem
with Like, that's my problem with cashios, which is based
on ours. But yeah, there's a there's a whole bunch
of stuff there. But yeah, chat like if you're curious
saying you're like, I don't know which distribution pick Fedora
or Bass or cash it's simple as so sorry, a
lot of people.
Speaker 1: Are gonna be like, like the writer here in chows,
I don't know what you're even talking about. Just as
a reminder, Linux is a kernel. It's basically just a
way for a system to tell the parts of a
computer what to do. And then when Sean says distributions,
he's talking about the basic operating systems built on top
of those kernels that a bunch of teams have been
making for a very long time now. And there's always
forks and new ones and stuff like that. But usually
what you can do is google like the best distribution
right now, and you're going to find a lot of
the answer Shun's talking about, and that will take you
in the right direction.
Speaker 2: Also, this get that's literally proving the point of why
I just said, you're probably not the count person who
built your own PC and installed Windows from strategy either,
So right, probably not the target audience for his stuff.
But that's that's why I'm getting at here, is that, like,
if you are the count person who is a diy er,
you would have built your own PC, you would have
installed Windows. It's easy enough to download one of the
major distributions that you hear all your teching gaming podcasts
talking about. You can download Fedora or Baz. I'd install
it on there instead. And now stem Os is also
an option for you if you want them very console like,
if you want basically make your own Steam machine. That's
what Valve is doing here. They're saying, like yes, because
like you know, Lynx is open source, it's just all
branches of the same thing. It's all branching off of
that same Lynx kernel slash Core. Then yeah, we can
put this outpring system out there so you can make
your own doing is very cool, and I think you
know the I I was trying Lynx for a while there,
and I just I switched back to using Windows on
a daily basis because I needed to use the Adobe
Sweet for work. But guess what, I have a project
at work back candy and finish because the Adobe sweet
fucking breaks every time I try a headit that video,
so I need to learn Da Vinci anyway, So I
guess I'm might as well just go back our a
lynx L that's stopping me at this point.
Speaker 3: I think, I think for for a long while, we're
gonna have dual Boon. You know, we're going to be
that the people.
Speaker 4: That had both of them, and we'll like eventually go
into Migrate.
Speaker 3: I think, just for a while, like the future.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for covering specific games as part of my job,
I'm going to need a Windows insulation on my secondary drive.
I have two drives in here. I pulled the SSD
from my last machine and put in here as a
secondary drive, so I can do a boot and that's
gonna be nice. But yeah, I am really excited about
the release of steam Less. Officially, everyone can install that
if they want to make their own like living room
console style PC, the only requirement being right now, you
need an AMDGPU. By the way. That's that's because and
Vidia sucks, and Vividia just fucking sucks.
Speaker 1: They they suck. They do not care that they suck,
and that's why they will continue to suck. I'd like
this idea that they're gonna have ready by twenty twenty seven.
Don't don't fucking count on it.
Speaker 2: Don't count See like they might Valve might bundle in
the open source and video drivers which are just worse
than the proprietary ones that Nvidia like kind of sort
of works with the Linux community to put out, and
Vida doesn't actually give a shit. That's why all this
Linx stuff tends to be AMD based, because AMD actually
does open sourcer stuff and like put open source drives
that are good and like up to snuffing and sometimes
better than their Windows drivers. So that's why, like the
requirement is there for Steam oss now you need an
a md GPU in your machine.
Speaker 4: We need to trick and media I into thinking that
the thing is like a I related, so they're gonna
like dive.
Speaker 1: Head on, get excited about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you saw the CEO in like there's a billion
people in planet Earth that like no other more than that,
but he meant like a yeah.
Speaker 2: Those are he cares about, cares about people?
Speaker 1: What he cares about, Yeah, exactly the ones that might
and really doesn't even care about them anymore.
Speaker 2: Like I do. Watch gamers in Nexus, and you know,
Steve can be a little prickly sometimes, but my favorite
bit is just him donking on Jensen every single opportunity
gets yep, so good.
Speaker 1: He's very good at it. And yeah, exactly transferter to
Crub explained Linx better than anyone in my whole three
years doing a comp side agree ten years ago. There's
a secret to that. I'm stupid, So I have to
explain these things to myself in like a way that's
like I'm five years old, and then when I can,
I could repeat that at the very least. That's the trick.
All right. Let's see here. Starfox reviews are out at
eighty three, eighty two. I think I might have I
think it's in that range right now. On Open Critic, Sean,
if you had a chance to play it, I know
you're a star fucks guy.
Speaker 2: Oh Doggie came out today?
Speaker 1: Yeah I wasn't sure, Like it was like it came
out last night, if you were going to stay up
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't buy digital because I'm not a sucker.
Speaker 1: That's right. Okay, that's right, that's true. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: Codea box motherfucker. Yeah, is that no on this one,
this one copy sitting over there. I arrived a couple
hours ago.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, okay, cool, Well you've had a chance to
see a lot of stuff. Where are you at with
you excited? It is just like you're kind of happy,
like it is exactly what it is or what it is?
Speaker 2: What it is like they remade star Fox sixty four again,
what the fucking do? Like? Uh? This this project always
annoyed me because like it's the Starfox cycle, you know,
they're like, true, they remake it. It doesn't sell well though,
so they try something wild that doesn't sell well enough,
so then it just goes into hibernation and then they
remake it again, and then uh, just pisser you off
the pot. Either like give us like the big triple
a Star Fox game with like a fresh new idea,
or give us a small indie one. I would have
loved a cadence of high roll style. You partner with
the company who knows what they're doing, who like the
studio that's doing, Like I forget what it is. It's
like wild Blue or something like that on Steam and
sounds right, Yeah, partner with a studio like that to
do like a smaller one instead that is just like
long because the studio wants to make a bunch of
levels while Blue skies there you go, like, I will
love to see that instead of a very pretty version
of star Fox sixty four, which it sounds like from
all our reviews, including mics over on giant bomb dot com.
That's that's what it is. It's a pretty version of
star Fox sixty four. Yeah, which is you could argue
is the arcade spirit, you know, like games that now
nowadays carry the arcade spirit, like fighting games and racing games.
Mostly what do they mostly have going for them? For
the normies? They look really good because the gameplay is
still like a little honed in and not like super
broad that they can be very pretty games. I guess
with star Fucks, I can only assume that's the that's
the ideology they had making this of like well kind
of simple arcadie gameplay, so we'll make it really pretty,
all right, all right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah. When I'm playing it, I'm having a great time.
Like I'm just like this is this is awesome. It
does look great. I like all the new character bits,
you know, the even the in between segments they drag
the second time, but you just skip them. But the
first time that you see one, you're like, oh man,
it's it's really addressing, like the fact that I accomplished
that last mission and now I have an option to
go to these two stages and they did. They do
a really good job of setting that stuff up. Yeah,
I'm enjoying myself. It's it's the safest thing they could
have done, which everyone kind of knew when this thing
was announced. It's like, oh, that's really safe. I think
part of it has always been since this got announced,
understanding that part of the rumor is there is another
Star Fox project coming that should be even bigger, right,
and so Okay, Well, I hope, I hope that's true.
I hope that pans out, and I hope this all
kind of works out. And that's the one that's like,
that is the two of the one two punch of
let's re establish Starfucks. Really, I guess with the Mario movie,
then this, and then followup with something even bigger to
see if we can re establish Starfucks as as something
that could be a triple A game. I hope they can.
But as far as this is concerned, I think most
people probably already know if they want this game, and
it helps that it's a little bit discanted. It's like
fifty sixty right, fifty digital sixty years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or like you know, Amazon, and I believe the
outlets are price matching the.
Speaker 1: Amazon and Walmart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because like I already on Amazon just a
few days ago. Actually I almost didn't get the pre
order in time. But yeah, it was fifty dollars for
a physical copy. And yeah, I sure, I guess because
like theoretically for a switch to game, that's twenty dollars discounted.
I would say that's even still maybe a bit much
for just a really pretty version of star Fox sixty four.
But you know, whoever, I'm a sucker. I bought it
because I'm a huge star Fox fan. I was always
gonna buy it, Like you said, I'm a person who
knew that I was gonna buy it either way, even
if it's even if this star Fox isn't the star
Fox I want, and it is still Starfox, I'm sure
I'm gonna play it. I'm gonna have a great time
because it is still star Fox sixty four underneath for
the most part, you know, in general, So I'm sure
I'll have a great time with this weekend.
Speaker 1: Retroid Pocket Nova got announced. But's goh sean, this seems
like it seems like my beer thing.
Speaker 2: Huh that's all right, yeah, literally at this baby. Read
those specs for me, Jeff.
Speaker 1: Four x three nine sixty p o led screen. Okay,
that sounds awesome. Powered by a Qualcomm snap Dragon G
two variant. That's pretty powerful. Actually, I'm two hundred and
thirty dollars, so it better be power pwerful, but it is.
That's a good that's a good processor. Eight gigabytes of
RAM and twelve gigabytes of storage. There is a two
hundred and sixty nine dollars variant that has twelve gigabytes
of RAM, which, yeah.
Speaker 2: I d eight gigabytes of storage. To be clear, you
said you said twelve gigabytes of story.
Speaker 1: Thank you. One hundred and twenty gigbytes, thank you. Yes,
twelve gigabytes of RAM and that's two seventy. I would
probably go with that one. That twelve gigabytes will help
out quite a bit. It comes to a bunch of
different variants. It looks really really slick. Oh led screen
on this thing sounds awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this so this is it, Like this is I
think as a RUSSA retro game Core likes to say,
I think this is the end game handheld for this
specific scenario because Retroid they kind of messed up with
the Mini, and like I was even saying the other day,
I said on stream, I was kicking myself for not
getting a Pocket Retro Pocket Mini because now it's discontinued
and I can't get that that like four infactor that
I want that like compacked but with like a four
x three O lead screen which is like a d pen,
buns and optional analog sticks. And then they go in
Now it's the Pocket Nova, and I'm stoked. Apparently it
goes up for pre order tomorrow night. I think it
was like at eight pm Eastern something like that. They're
gonna push it live for pre ordering. But by the way,
E gigs of ram, that's enough for like what the
system is designed for. I would go at the a
gig ram version for two thirty because that that's enough.
Speaker 1: For It's just not that much more for twelve gigabytes.
When I look at these prices, I guess it's it's
forty bucks.
Speaker 2: It's forty bucks, But really that's only if you're doing
like PC on Android stuff, because that's the thing. Now, everybody,
if you didn't know you can emulate or not emulate,
you wait, let me get this right. No, it is emulation.
Speaker 1: It's simulation. It's you know, it's through the Proton layers
and stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, because remember, like because I was trying to get
this right, because Valve was very insistent on this when
they announce the Steam frame. If you when you do
Windows to Linux through Proton, that's translation. But X eighty
six to ARM is actually emulation. So yeah, this would
be PC emulated on Android. The point is the twelve
gig ram is if you're doing PC stuff or Android
gaming stuff. But the eight gigs of ram would be
enough for just like if you want to go all
the way up to like game Cube and PS two,
even my retro Pocket Classic, that little game Boy Sale
one does PS two just fine.
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, the cheaper one encouraging. Yeah, PS two
is one of the one I was thinking of. Like yeah.
The thing is I do always go for the bigger models.
So it's like, yeah, I've got my PS two and
it's running great, And that's because the twel gigabytes RAM
that's encouraging to hear. Eight gigabytes is good enough for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be good. Like if you just want to
do emulation er but you can't get the cheaper one.
I think it looks fantastic. That nine to sixty P
screen means that four ADP content scales twice up to it,
and then two forty P scales four times. That's why
I went with that resolution. OLED is gonna look great.
There's a meme in the community where like they mess
up the screen so badly that the CEO had like
mortgaged his house to like pay for a new screen,
and that whole chain of events like led us to
this hand and tell then that's why I point it
in here. We needed we need some lighthearts, and the
news segment on that was very, very dire today, Jeff,
I just want to talk about my sicko stuff. I'm
excited to preorder this and then play all my retro
games on it and get retro achievements.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that resolution is like when I do
see that's okay, and I can justify it to myself,
like I you know, I've got the analog pocket and
all these other things. It's like, yeah, the analog pocket's
really great for game Boy and that stuff, that everything
scales perfectly for that. And really it's just, you know,
it's me again, me talking myself into getting another one
of these. I don't usually notice the difference. The interpolation
a lot of times is good enough for me. But man,
it's always nice to just have that perfect upscaling for
a lot of these consoles, especially on a four x
three screen like this, that would be great. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we'll see. I'm looking forward to seeing like retro game
course a coverage of this and everyone else getting their
hands on it, and maybe we'll try to get one
ourselves and we'll buy one and cover it here. We'll see. Uh, okay,
here's what we're doing. We're going to make a break
and then when we come back. Sean, I want you
to tell me about your experience with the superstation. It's
a little bit of your stream. I kind of wanted
to have you just tell me, like what that's been. Like,
I have mine here and I've been playing with it
here and there, but I haven't touched it in a
minute kind of I know you've got it recently, we'll
talk about that right after this. All right, we're back.
I'm gonna ask Sean about the superstation here in a second. First,
let's do those super chats. Sean, what's happening over there
in super chat Land.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's see. First, up was from James Pies
for two hundred and twenty nine dollars. I got my
Series S as a game pass time killer during the
COVID days and PS fives were still scarce six years ago. Crazy, Well,
GTA six bail them out.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna like bail anyone out, but it will
be like it will help them raise the price and
still probably sell the same amount of Xboxes, Like they'll
they'll be able to get away with a little bit more.
It will buy them time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did see that, like maybe they're maybe they're
pulling outpe at least over at Xbox that the Series
S is still like appealing because I noticed at the
end of their press release that they emphasize and remember
the Xbox Series S is still a value conscious way
to play all the new games, including Call of Duty
and FIFA and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right Xbox.
Speaker 1: Real quick, did you see that PlayStation had that blog
post about Grand Theft Auto six being best played on
a PlayStation five or whatever, and then they had to
they removed that. They removed references to the best place
to play, and it's I wonder if that's just not
language that Rockstar agreed to as part of their co
marketing deal. If there's something more to that. Maybe Microsoft
is like, you don't fucking know that, you can't say that,
and we'll you know, I don't know, that's weird.
Speaker 2: I wonder. Yeah, PlayStation marketing sort of just added that offhandedly,
and rock Starry S I was like, we don't. We
don't want to, like imply there's a marketing deal where
there may not be one until you give us money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there. I think there is a marketing deal,
and I think it's you. But I think it just
covers stuff like we'll make a big deal about the
dual sense features, like we'll support the dual sense and
that's that stuff like and you could say that, but
do not then apply that that makes it the best
place to play, which I think is what that blog
post was doing.
Speaker 2: Chad is saying that they added it back it was
just because they had.
Speaker 1: An old logo Okay, all right, cool, thanks everybody. I
appreciate that.
Speaker 2: There you go. All right. Next super chat here is
from Lex Luddy. Thank god. I don't rely on the
game's biz for work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what a nightmare time to try to
get a job in anything. But like, like where do
you go in this space? So like you were someone
that like did train to working here one way or
the other, and it's like, well, the media is fucked,
so I can go work on the development side. Oh
my god, no I can't. And you know it's not
like comms and public relations are any better. It's it's
bad out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's bad across the board. I feel for you.
Baba is me sixty four says I already own a
nice PC connected to a monitor and all the consoles.
Did I click by if I'm selected to order a
Steam machine, I'm currently sixty forty against.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I mean that's a
personal decision. It's like you get one and then you
are willing to like sell it at cost to a
friend that really does need one. I mean that'd be
a cool move, that'd be cool, Like, yeah, but if
you're not going to do that, then don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: I would say, I would say, do you live an
apartment buying chance? Is your PC in the same room
as a TV? Buying a chance? Because hey, a long
thick gauge HDMI cable on Amazon. I was like thirty
bucks just tossing that one out there.
Speaker 1: And then you just you get a Steam controller in
twenty twenty seven or whatever it is. You get it,
you set it up so you can use Steam Big
Picture mode, and then basically you're halfway there to having
a Steam machine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there are cheaper ways to, like, if you
already have a nice PC, there's cheaper ways to this.
I personally like to do PARSEK streaming because like you
and Parsec within your home network, it's extremely high quality.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's really good. Yes.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you just like plug in up old laptop
or something else that's bringing a Parsec app to your
TV and you also stream that way. So there's other options.
I'm not sure you need a Steam machine if you
have like everything else that you need already.
Speaker 1: And when I go to Steam and I like going home,
like a Steam machine is not even like I'm scrolling down.
I don't. I don't even like see it like they're
not to me.
Speaker 2: I thought the lottery ended?
Speaker 1: Is that okay, Yeah, that's probably what that is. I
was like going to get the lottery. Yeah, there's a
weight list now, Okay, that's probably what it is.
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. That's yeah, they're probably just de
emphasizing it then.
Speaker 1: Yeah. All right.
Speaker 2: Next is from dat boy Jerry. Are you gonna quote
unquote fix Gershman's top ten NYS list?
Speaker 1: Yes, we'll do that. That's fun. Uh yeah, I'll talk
to Mike about it.
Speaker 2: It he'll do it. I have enough people on the
airnet who hate me.
Speaker 1: I think Mike was pretty happy with his list because
Mega Man Uh. I think he had Mega Man three
really high, or maybe he did have Mega Man two higher.
I can't.
Speaker 4: I think is mayomn two Yeah that he hud super high.
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean he's still pretty yeah, yeah, exactly. So Yeah,
we'll see. I think mostly I'm going to be on
board with what he said, especially for his top ten.
There's some games that I think he underrated, for sure,
but those are the ones that, like, some people just
have an affinity for and some people don't. Okay, he
was right about ryegar Reygar. I played because I saw
it high on his list last summer Boy that game
rules Okay?
Speaker 2: From Zombie porin where is Grubb's final Fantasy fifteen VR
fishing stream from earlier today? That's honestly the best work
Jefferson Grubbler has done since joining Giant Bomb the sake
of SEO, I all enlisted it because I don't want
people searching for the actual stream, because we're doing an
actual one tomorrow now Jeff has it up and running
and hopefully his PC to th explode. So I just
wanted to make sure there was only one listed.
Speaker 1: Man when that. When I got the HDCP thing, I
was just like, I'm in for a night, and I
was right. It got wayward, Like I'm like, look, I
wrote a paragraph of all the things that went wrong,
and the HDCP thing is like in the top third,
and there's so much that went wrong after that.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, law, that's a good point I'll
toss up on the website because that, you know, that
is affected by anything. I just didn't want to thank
you Oka on YouTube. There you go tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Sean uh.
Speaker 2: Missouri Matt is up next. Thank you for the content
Jeff and Mike.
Speaker 1: Wow wow yeah yeah, thanks thanks Mike for going on
vacation no problem.
Speaker 2: Next is from Night Trauma. Ladies and Gentlemen, We got them.
Borf has been compromised to a permanent and Congress to Dan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a what a thing? You get a chance
to check that out. That was quite a thing.
Speaker 2: I missed the end of that stream because I was
doing laundry. I was like, there's no ways good. Actually,
oh no, he did it, Okay, he did it. I
go back and check out the moment.
Speaker 1: It was amazing.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, yeah, chat is like wholl Mike's here. Next
from Input Video here, I get it. ESVR represents your
white well very on them.
Speaker 1: For fishing week. Absolutely uh. I did want to get
it back out. I'm like, I, you know, I still
have that thing sitting around. There's no point to let
it sit there forever. I should go catch up on
a few PSUVR games that I'll never be able to
play again, especially since I'm not going to be able
to find the ps VR PS five adapter. I should
get the ps four out as well. And of course
that was stuck on the end of the camera right here.
Speaker 2: Hey, that okay, this is the moment that like I've
always thought this, but this is like the moment that's
the lift I had. Just fucking generational fumble. They're not
like them on their end. Don't make developers do this
on PlayStations and not coming up with a solution to
make ps VR one titles backwards capable on PSBR two,
like figure something that.
Speaker 1: Figure it out that way, or just don't do it.
Don't do a PSVR two. It's that crazy. It's that crazy,
like just either figure it out or don't do it.
And they clearly should not have done it based on
what happened with PSVR two.
Speaker 2: The only reasons not backwards compabil is because of tracking tech.
So you use the same tracking tech even if it's worse,
like just use it as backwards campable. It was. It
was a really dumb pathway there. I'd love to see
like a story twenty years from now on, like no
clip or whatever of how we got to that point.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Same next is from Crypto Cody Cryptos and the Dog.
They have it in their profile picture. Cryptoly K. I
recommend the TV show Interview with a Vampire on AMC
and the Vampire Lestat, which is season three of the
show airing now. Amazing storytelling bat emoji, whine emoji.
Speaker 1: I always liked the original Vampire or interview with a
Vampire movie, and then I've seen people be very horny
about this show. Apparently the stat is very, very very hot.
So I'm ok. Yeah, I did see Queen of the
dam Yes, that's movie. That's culture right there, guy, Yeah,
queen it was who played the Queen of the Damn?
What was her name? Aliyah? Yeah, yeah, that was a time.
That was a place, time and place for sure.
Speaker 2: Interesting movie poster. Okay. Next up is from Antonio Morales.
Did I get the Retroy Pocket Nova even though I
have a thor Odin and steam deck tnas.
Speaker 1: You're good, Antonio, Yeah, you're good, especially with a thor
and you fas get the same thing, but across the
spread across three different screens.
Speaker 2: Yeah right now? Oh yeah, the olden the Odin is like, yeah, fantastic,
can't tell. And the Thor if you have the thorny,
you have yourself covered. Like I'm interested in this one
because I don't have a thought and I never had
an interest in Thor because if I'm gonna do dual screen,
I would just rather do it on OG hardware.
Speaker 1: And then's you're right actually yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah for everything before that, I was waiting for a
handheld like this, and now it's here, so like, you know,
now I'm happy. But like, if you already have a
machine that can do it, then you're good. You know,
you're all good. You need you need to grab this one.
You don't need to be like Jeff. You don't need
to grab every single.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a yeah, it's a disease. Yep.
Speaker 2: D Jones up next with that Micron news. I think
people are fools to think PlayStation Slash switch to won't
increase in price as well. Yeah I meant to mention
this when we're talking during that segment, but yeah, like
we know switch to is gonna increase in price. Did they?
Did they say by how much?
Speaker 1: Switch to?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah right, it's it might be more than that. God,
I can't remember now switch to price increase, because that's
happening for us in August. It's already happened in Japan.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, so they did lock Sorry.
Speaker 1: Was it September? Is it September?
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, September a couple months.
Speaker 1: It's fifty dollars, right, that's what it is. It went
from four to fifty to five hundred, and that's the
one without the game obviously.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they would have had such an out there
if they didn't have a price locked in, is what
I was going to say, because like internally coup in
fifty and then now all this tames comes down, they're like,
actually it's one hundred dollars more. They might have to
do one hundred dollars and to fifty. We'll see then. Yeah,
like Xbox is doing the price increase now, PlayStation's definitely
close behind.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Oh yeah, for sure though they'll I mean it
was three price increases from Xbox. We've got two major
price increases from PlayStation. I think that's right.
Speaker 2: They've had so many internationally that's hard to keep track.
I think. Actually that's what they're one here in the US.
Speaker 1: That's what's from the off Micron news is that Micron
posted record revenue and a record eighty five for gross margin.
What that's crazy, and it's expected to be eighty six
percent gross margin next quarter. The company adds that company
adds over a one hundred billion in market value in
a single day.
Speaker 2: Do you say one hundred billion?
Speaker 1: Yeah? They and they're they're stock press saw right, Yes,
was already up up up, like it's been going. I
mean like when this stuff was first happened. I'm like
I remember, like as soon as the first time, like
I should buy Micron, and like I didn't. Now here
we are, of course it's been good. Yep, shit, well
in that time, it's crazy.
Speaker 4: The biggest this thing is gonna be hilarious yep.
Speaker 1: I mean like it does. It still does feel like
that RAM. It like RAM will just stop actually being
in demand at some point, and then what do these
companies do because they don't have some other new method
to like keep the demand this high, so it will
break at some point. But in the meantime, so it's going.
Speaker 4: To start somewhere else and they're gonna need like the
some chips for to put on those missiles. Don't worry
about it, We'll figure it out.
Speaker 1: You're right, figure it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Next from to one free Man, from your mom
to niece, just checking in on my new son. Do
you need anything?
Speaker 1: Ah, I know, I'm good, Thank you. I appreciate it. Denise.
That's very lovely of you, But uh, I just got
to deal with all these things breaking on my own.
And but I don't know, maybe a sandwich that'd be nice.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I forgot about that one next from lurking Adam. Unfortunately,
blightening around times have increased by more than two point
five times, and we expect another doubling by the fall
of twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3: When is the night club bubbles going to birth?
Speaker 1: Apparently not, because now they're like talking about escalating for me,
So I'm just gonna keep getting bigger and bigger.
Speaker 2: We'll see cool YouTube crash got a love it, I
thought my computer sometimes, but I do still have the
old super test pulled up. I do see that Riviks
was the last one of the old round. I'll get
the new round pulled up here. In a second, Rivics said, crazy,
all the GTA is eighty hate. I feel Mario Kart
could have been ninety at this point with how quick
everyone forgotten. Nintendo raised game prices.
Speaker 1: First, Yeah, I mean I think that. I think it'll
be equivalent because there was a lot of hate in
that moment, and then it passed once the game was
out and people played it, and everyone's like, yeah, I
wish I didn't pay the books for this, and most
people didn't, so most people just got it as in
the bundle. Some people pay eighty and then everyone feeling
people who definitely felt burned by that and they did
not like that price. Same thing's gonna happen here. People
buy this game, play it and be like, maybe I didn't.
Maybe I'm not happy about paying eighty, but I'm moving
on with my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, game prices are the one that I am like
least angry about because it's it adds up if you
buy a lot of games, But ten dollars isn't like
the end of the world. It's kind of a this
sucks and I move on. You know. It's like, okay,
so I'll I'll have McDonald's for lunch one less time
this month. It's like, and it's for me at least.
It's not the biggest deal. It's more of like the
consoles going out by several hundreds, because oh my god,
it's making it so difficult for people to get into games.
But that that that is how I look at.
Speaker 1: Personally, and you're right, the game prices is just one
of those ones. That's so strongly anchored that people have
a huge psychological hurdle with that when they see the
price go up.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was gonna say something else, but my brain
is scrambled, So let's move on here to toll Codo.
That's why my brain is scrambled. Hello, I'm on vacation.
I assume everything is fine with video games. Don't worry, Mike,
everything is fine.
Speaker 1: Just don't touch anything else. Whatever you're doing, it's bad,
but you don't worry about it. You just go back
to New Orleans.
Speaker 2: Oh right, I was gonna say, I think people just
forget about Mary Krtt world in general is part of
the reason that people moved out from that. That's part
of it.
Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely, Yep.
Speaker 2: Then we had g Nitro saying Sean Retroid Pocket Nova
pre order is tomorrow night at nine pm Eastern. There
we go, per a screenshot from their discord. Thank you
for that clarification, because yeah, I watched Russ's video and
he mentioned there. I forgot the exact time, So there
you go. If anyone else wants to be a sickle
like me and pre order one of those nine pm
Eastern tomorrow, apparently.
Speaker 1: We're going to be. I guess I'll just this will
be the first place I say it on Giant Bomb
next Wednesday, July. First, we're going to do a stream
where me and Dan are going to sit down with
all of our fun little handhelds and hang out with Abby,
who's got to growing interest in those, and we'll be
talking about those. So Shan, if you want to come
out and like maybe explain the nova and stuff like that,
that could be fun.
Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, yeah, I also know a lot about the
hardware and all these, so that would be fun. It'd
be great to have you.
Speaker 1: Yep, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 2: Cool. Then from Sparkle Andre lat of Super chest Night.
By the way, thank you everybody. Yeah, thanks Sparkle Andre
says man, I sure am tired of the Nintendo music drops,
as good as they are. Where are the GameCube games? Ah,
that's where we go with that.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's uh. I always do get excited for like
half a second with the music draps. Oh awesome. Wait,
I don't use I don't ever use that, and I
would much rather have an NSO game instead. But yeah,
here we are.
Speaker 2: I like that they exist the music drops because now
they have a web player now it's actually like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's better.
Speaker 2: You're writing it for me.
Speaker 1: That's true. Yes, that is an unprovement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also yeah, they should be adding more GameCube
game SAT service. I think you and Mike talked about
on Tuesday. It's just an iso that they need to add.
I don't think they're doing anything specifically bespoke for this one.
Maybe they are. Well, actually, you know, I should take
that back. I remember people heing down the N sixty
four emula seeing that they did do bespoke things because
they were building that emulator as the airplane was in
the air. So maybe they do have to do things,
and may that is what's slowing them down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure it's actually somewhat part of it, but
it's also just Nintendo being Nintendo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could also probably throw more people onto that team.
That's probably pretty small. It's probably just nerd or whatever.
So yeah, yep, Zombie Porin is back. Why do all
those pocket novas look so good? Right after Grubs sold
all his Chinese handhelds and squidwards at that garage sale.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some guy came ups, like got any video games stuff? Nope,
keeping all of it. Yeah, I those things do look good.
I wish I wish they weren't so slick looking, because
it's like that's a big part of it. It's shiny
new thing and I got to get over that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. People, there's a transparent and then there's a transparent watermelon,
transparent gray, transparent ice which is blue, and then there's
a GameCube on on a Super Family Calm one and
black one. I'll probably just go to black because it
looks like it's Matt black as well, and I like.
Speaker 1: That's always great. Black is great.
Speaker 2: Yeah. J D Camp is next. Why did they design
megalopany like that apples? Have you ever seen? Have you
ever seen megalopanyol?
Speaker 3: This is this going to be?
Speaker 2: You need to look it up.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh I have seen this before, and I know
why they did it this way.
Speaker 2: I know I know that we all know why they
did it that way.
Speaker 1: It's all right, I get it.
Speaker 2: I'll say I get it. Yeah, yeah, I get it. Yeah.
Different strokes, No, not low puney. Don't listen to jan
it's lpani because lop is a type of rabbit. Uh.
Scathing Hot spur is up next? Wow, what name you
should absolutely try to get Russ for the dump truck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be cool. Also, I would just maybe
want to get him for like gaming stuff too, because
I was.
Speaker 2: Gonna say, like, Russ would be a good GMM host,
Yeah host, probably, yeah, especially if there's a specific day
where there might be news about it or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's excellently. He's one of those ones where
it's like definitely caught him on the upswing where it's like, yeah,
this guy knows he was talking about and then like
a week later everyone, yeah, we're millions of more people
of people are watching him now, like good that that
that is right?
Speaker 2: That one chat Elliptic says he's in Hawaii though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well uh actually that would that would be a
problem for game mess mornings because that would mean it
would be very early for him. Although I think he
was in the Marines, so I bet he's a morning person.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, that's true. We'll see, We'll see.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then Crypto Cody is back. I stream Big Picture Mode
to Apple TV steamlink cap. There you go. We were
talking about a streaming option earlier, and there's a few
of them, including that one.
Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, I will occasionally use a steamlink on the
although it doesn't work great on the Quest three, there's
other other ways of doing it instead.
Speaker 2: Zombie porn snuck one more in here. Any EVO predictions,
will Mike be mad at them as mad?
Speaker 3: That's a prediction?
Speaker 1: Oh man already got knocked out.
Speaker 3: I already lost.
Speaker 2: Two before you even went Uh Evo predictions. I predict
they're going to add a new character to Blaze Blue
Central fixture.
Speaker 1: Crazy yep.
Speaker 2: Probably, Like let's see if there's anyone left for Token. Yeah,
there's a whole Token team left to be announced. I
don't know what they would do with street Fighter because
weirdly they already showed Yasmine's gameplay trailer, so I'd be
curious if they do anything link that, and then maybe
maybe son for tech In as well. Yeah, I'm not
interested in supporting EVO in a way shape this forum
this year. I'll also watch the topics. What the announcements are.
Speaker 4: I used to like streaming every every year. I was
to like like watch Party. I'm not gonna do that anymore.
Speaker 1: Are there any notable like players that are sitting now?
Because I mean I know that a lot for a
lot of these players this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember I meant to check. Ian Walker
did put up an article on Kotaku, like interviewing some
of people who are sitting out EVO this year, and like, say, jam,
I play one of them. I think he talked to
Sonic Fox. I don't. I don't know what they're doing,
if they set it out or something, or they don't
plan to attend in the future. Yeah, Maximilian, he's uh,
he's going to be at home this year. He had
a big partnership with them where he's in person for
a couple of years. And he's like, right, you know,
I'll still cover it because it's fighting game news basically,
but like I'm not going to like go there as like.
Speaker 1: You know what, she kind of close seems like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so just a lot of people are just lose
enthusiasm for EVO in general. But we'll still take the
announcements because those are ultimately independent from the event.
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, the players can earn their money.
I don't begrudge them that go don't make your money.
That's fine.
Speaker 2: Some people in the Pacheck I get it.
Speaker 4: It sucks, but especially if for fighting game players such
it is stuff out there, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: So I get it one last one in the chain.
Here veto Libido snuck it in. Wave Race sixty four
was eighty dollars. In nineteen ninety six, DTA six was
eighty dollars. Now we go nuts.
Speaker 1: I mean people weren't happy back then. There was a
reason the PlayStation did so. I mean, Wave Race is
better than ninety five percent of the games on PlayStation,
but most people didn't care because it was too expensive
on a console that they weren't going to get because
all the games were that expensive, or many of them were.
Speaker 2: Too Like yeah, yeah, that's sort of the unspoken thing
that I try not to bring up because it pisses
some people off. But like when I said, like, don't
buy stuff, I always low key in the back of
my head of the don't forget that, and sixty four
games often costs like ninety dollars, but like whatever, it's
not what's about this point?
Speaker 1: Yeah, cause it's right, it's it just it doesn't go
one to one, You're right. I mean people were paying
this much for a very long time, and video games
have been expensive like this before, but.
Speaker 2: We got spoiled by the fifty dollars price point. Likely
and it.
Speaker 1: Locked in for a very It locked in for a
very long time, and then and then when they changed it,
everyone just went to sixty uniformly, and we're like, okay,
and we got that for a very long time. So yeah,
I talk about that strong anchoring. That's it, and people
just have a lot of emotion attached to that now,
and including me, Like when I see the price go up,
I'm like, yeah, that looks weird. I hate that. So
I don't blame anyone's c I just regret.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that many people are going crazy about
the eighty dollars price point.
Speaker 2: That is, like it's more than we want to pay.
But also it's not a hundred. It's not like it's
not one hundred. Yeah, reasonable for like that base game.
But yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll also squeeze in and Tonium
Rales last one here. It's wild how you go from
zero eight bid dough controllers to nine eight bit dough
controllers real quick?
Speaker 1: Yep, yes, huh god, that that's my life. A lot
of those are the eight A dough in sixty four
controllers at this point. But now at this point, there's
so many kind of laying all over there.
Speaker 2: That helps when they're like often thirty pop.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's it's been, it continues to be a really
good deal. Let's you know the same kind of does
anaalog falling out of places? You know, like, that's such
a good controller, that original color style in sixty four. Yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 1: It's it's great, great, great, Okay, let's take out, Let's
take another break. Then we'll come back and I'll just
ask a couple quick questions of Sean about the superstation
right after this. All right, we're back. Sean, you got
your superstation delivered. You did a lengthy stream where you
do you test it out a bunch of stuff. What
did you come away from that stream and your experience
so far thinking about the superstation, which, as a reminder,
is an FPGA, it's it's a mister console, SOO has
a lot of course, it's presented as if it's a
PlayStation one. Yeah, what what's your takeaway? O?
Speaker 2: Takeaway is that is a wonderful little piece of hardware.
I legitimately am bummed out that Mike's arrived defective and yeah,
and get replacement one because this is perfect for someone
like him, because it is it is very you know what.
Similar philosophy to the Steam machine. Actually, like we talked
about how you can you know, have any AMD PC
you can install a links distribution and nowadays Steam once
on it and do it very diy or are you
just by a Steam machine even if it is pricey.
Similar philosophy here with the superstation where it is just
a pre built Yeah, mister FPGA gaming console, which now
I get to explains on if people don't know about
the mister We've mentioned it before, but if you don't know, basically,
the mister project uses a field programmable gait array FPGA,
which is basically just a programmable computer chip. It's like
a large computer chip that you can program to behave
in a certain way to like mimic other circuits and
computer chips and stuff like that that are simpler than it.
And so what people realize they could do is they
can program one of those to simulate old video game
consoles that are simpler. And so that's why we see
like in Analog's products, you see FPA slapped all over
like the Pocket and the Analog SG and stuff like that.
And so it's an open source, community based project that
now Paki, you'd on who may is? He was? I
guess a YouTuber started up his own company to make
a lot of retro gaming products, including this one, and
it is just it's nice to have a company who
will ship you one that's ready to go. You don't
have to set anything up. You just pop out the
SD card that's included with it, load your games onto
it because you know, legally you have to supply the
games the ROMs. You pop it back in and then
you're just off the races. You pick the core from there,
you pick the game, and it just starts playing. It's
really really cool. It makes playing retro games very easy,
especially for some that are a little more difficult to emulate.
You know, like if you do a software emulator on
your PC, sometimes it's difficult to like, you know, run
a Saturn emulator accurately on your Windows PC or something
like that. But people figured out ways to effectively get
this FPGA system to play Saturn games and that's really cool,
really awesome to be able to fire that up. From
what I can tell, the superstation is just you know,
it's just a mister the box. If they are in
beta testing, I wish it wasn't a beta. I wish
they had just waited until this was done. But they
are beta testing a proper console UI that will make
you look like a console as you think of it,
with like a grid based interface that is a lot
more easy to navigate with a controller and everything like that.
But for now is the more text based mister interface.
It's getting the job done. And I was impressed with
the mister in general because I haven't owned one, and
for example, the CRT shaters have gone so good, just
really good.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, a lot of them are pre installed here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like I assume they would be on a
regular mister, once you get the US on there, I.
Speaker 1: Guess now you're getting all the packages now, yes.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, especially if you like run update all, which
is scripting download.
Speaker 1: Script that is just widely used at this point, mister.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but everybody the Sony Trinotron wants very specifically, So
like if you have a mister or you give superstation,
use the Sony Trinitron CRT shad in the video options
menu because that looks very similar to the best CRT
shads that you can get, like retroarc and everything, like
CRT Royal it looks fantastic, and I'm really happy that
this system plays high end emulation like Saturn N sixty
four and PS one. Of course it looks like a
PS one slim, so it plays PS one very well
as well as all the older stuff and it makes
them look good. With CRT shader, you can connect a
controller no problem. You just hold the menu bun and
then you hold pair on your controller and pairs instantly.
It's awesome. It's great to have a very straightforward way
to do all this mister stuff that was a little
daunting before. It was a little like building a PC.
So it's cool that company streamlining and just buy one
and you know, I might might take a hot second
to get to you because they're like kind of behind
on shipping them, but once you do, it'll be a
great experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of amazing, like all the work,
like honestly, just the work that he did in the
first place, tech you do on to make the mister pie,
which was just they went in there and they figured
out like what the what is what is the chip
called the d E ten instead of airplane feels that's
thank you. The d E ten nano and they studied
the schematics and they were the ones that kind of
figure out, like they took out all this stuff that
wasn't that wasn't necessary for retro gaming, and then they
updated all of the book parts of the board that
were kind of using multiple variations of like USB used
to be A or used to be two and all
this stuff, and they're like, Okay, we're just gonna do
one USB C board and that will reduce costs. They
basically cut the price in half for a mister, and
then to take that and be like, okay, now let's
make it a really smart all in one package. Which
is the thing here, Like we could say over and over,
this is just a mister. But it's a mister with
all of the input and outputs just set up for
you in an awesome case. And it's got snack adapters
built right in, which the snack adapters are the way
that you can can connect classic controllers or whatever. Now
it has the it has the PlayStation ports right there.
Do you know if there's a way to like to
snack adapt like other controllers right on the thing. I
haven't actually looked at that yet.
Speaker 2: So I believe this is something that's not available, but
he's talked about He's talked about the system for so
long or the past like two years in various places,
drip feeding. I believe that the shape of the PS
one connectors on here are just like a different shape
for a snack adapter. And so, by the way, snack adapter,
I forget what snack SNAC.
Speaker 1: Stands for Serial net I can't remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but basically it's bypassing us B ports and
anything that has overhead to directly connect the FPGA to
get you like basically instantaneous inputs like you would get
on console. So I believe the PS one controller ports
on the front of this thing are just a different
shape for the snack adapter. And uh, I think they're
going to sell controller port adapters that you can plug
other stuff into them, okay or whatever. Which, by the way,
there's a lot of things that aren't working on this
out of the box. Unfortunately, if you got the DOC,
so the I believe the memory card ports do not
currently work. You need the You need to wait until
the console UI is out for that, and then the
DOC does not read discs right now. You also need
to wait for the console UI for that. So if
you did buy a superstation with the dock, it's frustrating
that you have to wait for some extra functionality that
you technically paid for. But they are working on it's
in beta right now and you can't download it. It's
just like it's not preloaded, which I would have liked
to see because that's really what a lot of people
are going for. But even as a quote unquote just
a mister, the fact that's like all ready to go
for you is awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty happy, Like this is definitely like going
to be the mister. I'm you, like, I have a
mister over here. And then I got this as well,
and I was okay, So I was a little disappointed
first because I have this, but using it, it's like
it is. The packaging does make a difference. It is
a less of a headache, it feels less frail than
the one I have. It's just yeah, it's just it's
really nice. So and then get like the work's been done,
the cores are there. They're really good for like up
through in sixty four even these days, it's it's impressive stuff.
So yeah, I hopefully people can start grabbing these if
they really want one, and hopefully attack you done can
kind of keep up with that. Of course they're going
to get hit by component pricing here, but not as
much as some other things, so hopefully the prices don't
go too insane. Yeah, okay, cool, Yeah Sewn, you, like
I said, you did a stream that's up on your
YouTube channel. People can like watch you go through this,
right right?
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did my best to make the stream also
like viewable, like a comfy view If you just want
to put a long YouTube video on in the background
some background noise, and it's up on my YouTube channel
as well. Both my twitch and YouTube are perbo Shawn
Sahawn and I have it now. The YouTube video. I
also went through and put time stamps on. So you
just want to see something very specific, like you want
to see, oh, how does restling Evil two on N
sixty four work on this thing? Doesn't handle the FMB
as well? Like oh, I do want to see like
if Sonic Jam and you know, like those weird ports
of song games running through the Saturn and then running
on this thing, does that work? I have that all
broken down for you. So yeah, if you're interested in
all this techie stuff, you want me to break it
down for you on a nice long video. Go check
it out well the description, Thank you, Christian. Yes, some
friends of the channel, like I hung out for a
little bit, like Dan hopped into the chat. Sean Sjohnson
was hanging out for a little bit. He popped head
and and uh, we had someone from the Mister team
actually hang out for a cool portion of the stream,
someone who I believe primarily worked on the Saturn core.
That was like plan out, Yeah, explaining how some of
the more complicated cores worked, giving me some tips of
like how set some stuff up properly and our thing.
That was very fun having them explain it. And yeah,
my I do have my twist chat on the vod.
You can see everything that they said verbatim as well.
Speaker 1: Excellent. All right, great, yeah, people should check that out.
Like Christian said, will love the link in the description.
All right, let's uh, let's take one last break and
then we'll talk about what we've been playing. All right, Uh,
what have we been playing? Let's start where you showing
what games have you been getting into?
Speaker 2: Uh it was you know, or the weekend. It was
primarily superstation stuff. I did. Also the our stream more
of the weekend. I did finish up you know, retro
achievements check in for the WEI event. I finished Super
Mario Galaxy too. I played through and finished it.
Speaker 1: I do think I like.
Speaker 2: Galaxy one a bit better personally, but I think Galaxy
two was fun for what it is if you know
the story, and it was basically a DLC add on slash,
a map pack basically that they decided to bundle up
into its own thing because it would have been difficult
to you know, put out like a.
Speaker 1: DLC type of It had so many ideas, which is
the thing I loved about it. It's like, oh man,
you could just tell that this is all the really
fun ideas they couldn't quite get together in time for
the first game, And yeah it was great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some stuff like you know Yoshi, like you get
on Yoshi and then you eat a pepper and then
you like race up walls for a level and stuff
like that. That was very cool. So yeah, it definitely
had some cool ideas, but I think some of the
levels fell a bit flat for me. So I do
like the First Galaxy more. Also First Galaxy like one
hundred percent more of Rosalina. So it's the Bear game
in general.
Speaker 1: You know, oh that makes sense, Yeah for sure. Yeah,
I've been planning playing some old games. I got the
Dreamcast working for specifically for the Fishing Week streams. But
I'm like, got this thing, let's let's go all out.
And I got I got a really nice Dreamcast off
of eBay that kind of has all the bells and
whistles and it's it's really nice. It's got the HDMI
mod in there, and they recapped it and stuff, and
they took out all the because it's you know, using
an optical drive emulator. They take out that like one
power rail that gets very hot, and it's one of
the main reasons the dreamcasts failed. That's just not in
there anymore. It's not needed because we don't have a
spinning drive. So the things should like theoretically last for decades.
Like I'm like, okay, cool, awesome, And then got it
set up and that was a hassle in its own right,
but not as much as some of these other other things.
And I played through Cannon Spike and that is a
hell of a game. Yeah, that's a good game. You know,
cameon Rollerblades always thumbs up for me. But also just
a really good game once you kind of like figure
out it's like a twin stick shooter with one stick,
so there's a lock on and uh, and there's a
little bit of melee you can throw in there. It's
just it's it feels really good and it goes from
like one high to the net to the next. They
don't pad it out because it very much is like
an arcade game and they want to have just these
cool set pieces, and I guess for people that don't
really know, it is like kind of a top down
shooter where you can play as different characters. Everyone does
just play as Cameo on Rollerblades though, and and you're
kind of just taking on the waves of enemies. But
it's mostly like like mid bosses and full bosses, and
they're all super well designed. And it's that Naomi Dreamcast
era incredible vibes in everything the look, the sound, the feel,
the music across the board. And it's because it's such
an onslaught of cool moments one after another. You are
getting that in huge doses. And Yeah, I'm super into that.
I had played it a little bit before. I think
I might have played it in it was in the
recent Yakuza. I think. I don't think that's right. I
think it was it. Maybe it was it. Maybe I'm
thinking of something else.
Speaker 2: There's a different one in ya is a eight that
I think is similar to it.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's probably that's right. Yeah, that was that
weird like running running beat him up game. You're right, Okay,
So yeah, I must have played on an emulator recently
when Mike mentioned it, and I'm glad I finally played
through the whole thing. But yeah, that's that. I've been
playing that. I did the Rhythm Heaven demo that seems
pretty solid. Rhythm Heaven seems good. I liked those a lot.
And then it's been and then it's been starfucks, quite
a bit of starfucks. I played through it about two
and a half times now. We did the multiplayer mode.
I did try out the co op with Mike a
little bit, and I was the I was the gunner
and he was the he was flying and I was
so I had it in mouse mode and man, clicking
on that thing like fifteen times, my hand was already
ready to explode. It was yeah, with the little joy
con like, this is not great for me. So but yeah,
I'm looking. I'm hoping a lot of people do come
to Starfucks because of this game and the movie. This
is still a great game. It's still really good. Sean.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, star Fox sixty four is an all timer,
and that's why it's like when they said that it
was a remake of that, it's it's one of those
situations where I feel like it's unnecessary, so I don't
necessarily want it. But at the same time, Star Fox
sixty four rules, So it's you know, sort of like
it's like the Okarina Time remake. Similar thing there, where
do you really need need to remake Akerina Time? I
really feel like you could just like upported the three
DS version, that's alid a lot of its issues. But
at the same time, it's Okerina Time. A lot of
people are gonna want to play that, but it's just
prettier and they do a lot of quality of life
stuff to it. So yeah, I get I get with
Star Fucks as well.
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, but that's that's it for me, Sean.
Anything else from you?
Speaker 2: You know what someone asked about last week, So I'll
do this rapid fire. I did play a lot of
Steamnacs fast demos Jeff.
Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, yeah, give me the give me quick
run down here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll do these super quick because I don't know
a ton of demos. I think close to eighty this
go around. Jeez, not a ton. That really stuck with
me unfortunately, So I just you know what.
Speaker 1: I don't know a handful. But when I was going
through them, not a lot. We're singing to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I was sticking out this time for me.
But I will say I did like takeover to you know,
you know, friend of ours Matt mcmuscles is producer on that.
I believe legitimately fun beat them up, you know, maybe
a bit simple because they are going for that arcade style,
but I do think they have something there where you know,
you beat people up and then also you have limited
number of bullets saying just shoot a fool if he's
like really annoying. And so I think that little twist
on the gameplay is pretty fun over there. I got
to try Namco Legendary Mountains, which is that like a
sweek a game, but instead of like dropping route into
like a to be er, like pousing the orbs onto
a dish that game.
Speaker 1: Okay, y, that was fun.
Speaker 2: Uh it you know, same concept as sweak a game,
which is a fantastic game. So I like this concept
as well.
Speaker 1: Speak a game got a sweak of game planets. Have
you ever seen that where it is like it's yeah
circle when you're dropping in from the outside and you
kind of go around the outside almost a tempest.
Speaker 2: I haven't played it.
Speaker 1: Is it similar to that or is it is a
little bit different? Do you drop it on the dish
from the perimeter or do you drop it by okay, okay,
so it's different.
Speaker 2: So what you do is you lob it. You like,
there's like an arc that you're interesting onto this actually dish. Yeah,
it's actually really cool. I I dig it. Let's see
what else I'm actually I saw most of these downloads.
I'm just going down line. Uh or Bricks was something
that that was interesting, whereas I guess you could say
it sort of combines ball Pit with uh Geometry Wars.
But so basically what is is you are stationary in
the middle of the screen and all these like blocks
are flying at you. It's like very abstract graphics and
basically every so many intervals you like shoot balls out
to like hit the bricks, you know, so a breakout
style and like Ballpit, the idea is to like bounce
them around and like destroy the bricks, and that's a roguelike,
though you are like upgrading to like fire more projectiles,
fire them faster, do more damage. It was simple, but
I thought it was cute. If this game comes off
like six bucks or so, I'll probably pick it up
because it seems like I don't know Mason to like
pass the time on steam deck or something. The one
that really caught my eye was ag x GP and
so this is another one of those fast racing.
Speaker 1: Games, right okay, yeah, not.
Speaker 2: Not as in the Fast series from Shinnen, but just
like an F zero wipeout style game something like that.
This one caught my eye just because of all the
little mechanics. It's ultimately pretty simple. It's ultimately wipe out
style mostly of just like racing fast down like sort
of as right away that sometimes goes into like tubes
and stuff like that. But the idea is that they
have a bunch of tiny mechanics that always try to
get you to boost more. Do you have a boost
meter that slowly recharges, but you also have there's resistance
pads that slow you down but also boost like windows
they sort of go through on the track. And there's
also was it there's track hopping, so there will be
tracks in the air where you have your your vehicle
jump and then you like move the analog stick in
direction to like slam onto one of the other tracks.
And then there's also uh, the last one is a
drift where when you enter the drift it goes into
bullet time and like if you execute it well, like
you also get a mini boost. So there's all these
tiny little things that constantly try to gets you to
get more boost and like so we have to use
the boost gauge less and it's all about avoiding the
resistance pads or like boosting through them and then like
min maxing the amount booster, using to get the lowest
time possible on every track.
Speaker 1: So that sounds awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if I believe the demo is still available if
people want, Yes, it is, if people want to go
check it out. I thought it was really interesting. I'm
like a fun little twist on the formula that a
bunch of people have done, so hey, go check out
agx GP. I thought it was the highlight of the
next veest for me personally.
Speaker 1: I did. I did forget one game that I have
not played yet, but I did add it to my account,
I mean using the Steam account. Everybody. It's called congratulations
on your purchase. Are you aware of this game?
Speaker 2: No? But I no, you don't know that very often.
Speaker 1: Did you want to go look it up real quick
on Steam? Oh, it's like I am rich on iOS right, Yes,
it is exactly that. It's it's one thousand dollars on
Steam and it's like, I got what do they say?
Like their description is, let me go to the store page.
Here the most game on Steam, and it's just like
the biggest trash of walking down a red carpet and
a bunch of people on the other side of a
velvet rope cheering you and paparazzi taking your picture or whatever.
And I didn't have to really pay for this, so
I kind of wanted to check it out and just
see just how depraved it really is.
Speaker 2: Look at me, Jeff, look at me, at me your scream?
How many user reviews does this have? Do you know?
Speaker 1: I I do know how many. I knew it. I
knew it had two when I bought. It doesn't have
any more.
Speaker 2: So at least two people spent one thousand dollars on
this trash.
Speaker 1: Yeah they do.
Speaker 2: Wait wait they were both under two hours they met.
They might have refunded it.
Speaker 1: They probably refunded right. Oh that's really really stupid. Uh okay,
so I'll check that out. Man, what a what a
dumb thing? All right, that's gonna do it. I think.
Let's see here, let's catch up on.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I play it, metch that game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to we will play it, okay, lay
next week or so.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I played with friends and then I play around
and even though not Alonge with like Randos and the like,
he has a suber browser and you just pick one
a random and it still was fun. Like it's one
of those games. It's just it's just fun to play.
So yeah, ten out of ten friends lave, but like
in the good way, friends lub, not in the bad way.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw I saw Grandpoo Bear and Salted Offense
and people playing it there day and looked really fun.
Speaker 3: For people that don't understand that, don't don't give pitch.
Speaker 4: It's like a proper home game where like you know,
I think do they have the same mode where you
turn into a piece object in the in the like
environment and you have to hide from other people that
shooting at the.
Speaker 3: Things into one of the props in the stage. It's
having it.
Speaker 4: But the twist on this one is you're just a
little guy and you can pay yourself, so you can like.
Speaker 1: You can like move into like different positions right putting them,
but you're still a little guy.
Speaker 3: You're still a little guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can like like climb a wall and like
stick against like a wall and then paint yourself the
sinkler of the wall like in a painting. You're gonna
try to recreate the painting and like it's it's really
charming and really fun. I recommend it, strongly recommend it
if you have like a.
Speaker 2: It looks like a fun funnel twist on the prop
pun genre.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm into it. I'm gonna try to get good
enough at drawing to be able to do this, but
I guess you know that'll make it fun as well.
Speaker 4: A million's like meke up with two seas two seas yep, yeah,
and Chamelion.
Speaker 1: Like I mean that's popping off. That's like one of
the top sellers on Steam right now.
Speaker 2: People. I've seen them do funny stuff where it's like,
for example, like I saw someone there's like a level
with water in it, and so since your guys sort
of like stick figury, they just did splayed out on
the bottom of the water and painted themselves pink with
green shorts and they were just trying to hide in
as Patrick Starr on the bottom, I saw them like
what like sort of in sort of like an L
shape and sort of extend a Japanese character. They like
painted themselves all black and tried to be like, well,
you know, Japanese, you're not gonna know that this isn't right. Yeah,
that real get clever with it.
Speaker 1: The one I saw that, like, other than people being
like very good at the art so that they can
like be in front of the Mona Lisa and just
look like it's the Mona Lisa, which is is very
impressive and cool, there was one where three people work together.
They saw a turtle inflatable I think by the pool
and the like, and they pieced themselves together and like
painted themselves to like look like another one of those turtles.
That was very good, all right, Yeah, like I said,
that's gonna do it. I think we got a maybe
some more super chat shown. I'm not sure we sure did.
Speaker 2: Actually yes, yes from one j Man zero six two
five Birthday tax Thank you John, Happy birthday, Eh, Happy birthday,
Jedi Moss four. Do we think Rhythm Heaven is the
last notable first party game for Switch one?
Speaker 1: So like they they do this every generation, but like
as part of the price increase. I think when they
were talking to investors, they were suggesting that they would
keep supporting the Switch one. I think I'm still in
the I'll believe it when I see it category with
that stuff, Sean, but I'm I'll say there's gonna be
one more like equivalent level Switch one game from them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds right to me. I think notable being
the keyword in your Superju Jedi. I think that's right.
It might be the last notable one. There might be something.
Speaker 1: Else could be fair. Yeah, the DS is the third
pillar exactly. Marino's thinking the exact same thing I was. Yeah,
they just say these things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Slippery Moose Cakes says the people want to know
if it. I'm assuming I believe came in when you
were talking about the Retroid Pocket and Nova. The people
want to know if it can play Pajama Sam in
four k at FPS. Also, not to get political, but
have you ever gotten a double killing Halo.
Speaker 1: Double quill?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one voice I can do. Yeah, sure, absolutely,
and I'm proud of it. Yeah. Well, what was the
first to comment they made there?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Pajama Sam, don't you worry? Pajama Sam and
nine to sixty p don't you worry? It's gonna be great?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, awesome? Any other super chats?
Speaker 2: Yes, Ali Miracle. They should bring vm us back.
Speaker 1: They should. They absolutely should. I uh amuse rule. You
know I got the one I do. I did order
a VMU Pro because it's it'll be handy for saving
all these games instead of having like one of those
four X expansion packs. But man, vm us are awesome.
They're so cool. I was like explaining to my kids
all about it and being like, heyy, because people take
this to school and raise their chow and try not
to get it taken away by the teacher, and they're like, hmm,
really that's interesting. I'm like, we'll see. Maybe if you
got want to play Sonic this summer, maybe we can
do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zombie Porin back with nar one. Does the M
two slot for the superstation work yet? And I'm gonna
say probably not. Yeah, I'm gonna assume not.
Speaker 1: Right, So many of those things aren't that it's just
safe to assume it's not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's like I said, it's it sucks and
they should not have done things this way. I really
wish they would just like delay the superstation a little
bit when shipping, if the console UI that has some
of the features that you pay for, if it's not
ready to go. Like I I do think that this
whole experience with Retro Remake and you know, Taki making
the company he's done like a couple of post mortemsie
the YouTube channel, I think it was a big learning
experience of like, oh, yeah, this ship is hard. It's
not you know, we can armchair all we want, but
actually is really difficult to do a lot. Yeah, So
I think they're learning, and it does seem like they
are like slowly starting to like actually roll out everything
they promised. But yeah, it's just unfortunate that not everything
is there as promised from day one on for sure,
and then last one here is a grant NP was
a member or is a member for nine months now,
so thank you for that, Grant, And the message on
it was, what TV slash monitor do you all use.
I'm in the market for a mid budget TV, would
like some advice, but also curious how much displays really
matter to you, Jeff, I feel like they matter less
to you if you want to go first.
Speaker 1: I mean, I look for a TV. All I want
is one that I'm not gonna hate, and turns out
there's not a lot right now, I'll be curious. It's
like a mid range TV. If there's one that people
do recommend that it's not going to be super frustrating
if you're trying to do anything like on the TV itself.
But all these smart TVs are so shitty that the
one I got the I can't remember what it is upstairs,
but like the board broke on it. So now every
time I use it's like, hey, your memory is getting
full on here, and it's not. This is just what
happens when the board breaks and the I have a
audio system connected to that and that doesn't work anymore
because of the same reason, and all like the Sony
TV never does an HD in my handshake. Right, it
will do it once, maybe twice, and then the third
time I go to turn on that TV and a console,
it's like, I don't know, there's nothing connected, and I
have to restart the TV, like completely reboot it. And
that's what gets the HDCP to happen again. It's so frustrating.
Speaker 2: Well, so i'd say it's an LGO lead, right, and
you're having problems with your LGO lead that you purchased.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish, I wish I had an LG O red.
That's the thing I need to do. So that's where
I'm at. I'm like, it's time to just like slowly
replace all these TVs as I can afford it with
lg O leads, because that seems to be the one
TV everyone agrees that actually can put up with it.
And then I'm my computers. You know, decent fourteen forty
p one hundred and sixty five hrtz monitors. The brand
is KTC and they have done just fine by me.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm more of a stickler about these things,
and like I do a stupid amount research, Like no
one should do amount of research. So let me help
you with the amount of research I've done.
Speaker 1: Please.
Speaker 2: You know, I follow a lot of digital foundry in
my life and gaming, so a long time ago they
sent me down the right path. And like I was
giving jeffalocraft for this, but legit, don't buy TV unless
it's an lg O lead. If you draw the money
for an lg OLED, save up until the mind for
an lg OLED. But they're also they're getting very reasonable.
You said a mid budget TV. They do start at
like six hundred now, which I would consider is still
in that mid budget range, maybe the upper end of
mid budget. Yeah, like that's six hundreds, like mid budget
six undreds. Yes, yeah, Like I'm looking at best Buy
right now, and this is in This is fifty dollars
off the sale price for the sale price, but forty
eight inch is around six hundred bucks. That forty eight
inch old is really all you need, like unless you
have like a really big living room, which in that
case you can probably afford a bigger one. But get
the lg O lead. It's you won't regret. It's like saying, yeah,
can I get a B or should I like?
Speaker 1: Because my own understand is, like the B processor, you're
gonna regret it. So just get the C I have.
Speaker 2: A B eight here from twenty eighteen, still serving me
good to this day.
Speaker 1: That's all I need to hear. That's what I need
to hear.
Speaker 2: All right, great, Yeah, like I at this point, I
don't even know what the difference is between the various classes.
I think it might be like the quality of the
post processing, which I turn off anyways, right, so yeah, yeah,
you can definitely go at the entry level one, and
I would say not regret for my monitor. I also
finally have an O Lead monitor. I got at the
Samsung G six I got on sale. I got on sales,
so it was like a woot. I stacked a couple
of deals I got for like three fifty, so I
love it. The fourteen forty P two hundred and forty
hurts O Lead and that's the sweet spot for motors.
That's like what MSI is doing nowadays with their oleads,
this Samsung one and a bunch of our brands, even
like aoc as a cheap one as well. Definitely look
for like a fourteen forty P O LED monitor and
they're usually gonna be between one hundred and twenty and
three hundred and sixty herds, so like I do a
little shopping around, but that's what I would recommend at
this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and those Samsungs are they've made a lot of those,
so yeah, they should keep actually coming down in price
if things don't go insane over there on that side
of things as well. So yeah, all right, very cool.
Any other any other super chats?
Speaker 2: Nope, that's it. We're all caught up, Jeff, excellent.
Speaker 1: All right, Well let's start getting out of here. Thank
you everybody for watching. Turn this music. Oh you know what?
That broke too? Huh? They got rerouted? All right's they
can't do it.
Speaker 3: I got what's going to sing him?
Speaker 2: And I can't.
Speaker 1: THEE should come in there. There we go, all right,
I fixed it. I had to go to stream deck.
Let me just you know what. Let's do that now,
all right for the intro, So I don't next week
try to start the show and it doesn't work. But
that on the right bus. There we go. We're welcome future. Jeff,
all right, thanks you, thank you everybody for listening. Thank
you for tuning in and watching along with us tonight.
We really appreciate it. Mike should be back for Nintendogs
next week. We should have besides next week because Friday
is kind of when the holiday starts and when I
might be traveling, so we should be good, although it
could be hectic. We'll see. But Sean, thank you so
much for hanging out with me tonight. Man, that was
awesome when you tell people where they could find you
and all that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, it is a fun time. And if you
want more fun times, go on over to twitch dot
tv slash Turbo Shan. I stream on Saturdays and Sundays
at noon Central and I upload the VODs or it's
a YouTube channel of the same name, Turbo Shan Shawn.
And yeah, like I said, go check out that superstation
video on my YouTube channel if any of that sound
interesting to you, or you just want to hang out
and watch some retro games and like chill vibes. I
try to keep the twitch chat, you know, sane and
comfy and cozy because the Internet sucks and I want
a nice place where people can hang out. Everyone is
welcome and we actively punt out anyone who tries to
cause trouble, so I come hang out with us.
Speaker 1: I did have an LG and an lgc X. I
think I think I had that one. They lent it
to me to review, and then I had to send
it back and it was always like such a penlank
I had it. Why do I don't want to buy it?
It's expensive? I should have just bought it. It was
really really great. It was a really good TV sound. Yeah. Yeah,
and then Sony's actually did send one and then, uh,
the reason they let me keep that one is because
it's a piece of shit. It's garbash. I'm the pan
right now. Yeah yeah, all right, well, thank you once
again everybody. You know, we'll be back into them that
next time. Until then, have a good one, take care
of yourself and goodbye, bye monster of the deep. Tomorrow
it's gonna happen.
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sucking their own dick a penis.
Speaker 1: Make sure you get a good People shouldn't drink water.
That could be a fun thing to pull out, you know,
once every year.
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