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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know who the hell we think when we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Get off our show, idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>The kids are playing the trail off their countries are

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<v Speaker 1>screwing it up. Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, Goldplay Inner Murals.

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<v Speaker 3>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? Here's Nick coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>You may not know it, but today is actually a

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<v Speaker 3>big day. Not because it's our last day without football

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<v Speaker 3>for the next what four days?

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<v Speaker 2>Five days?

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that's been the case the last few weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>but actually today's the last day we're gonna be without

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<v Speaker 3>football to watch and wager on until Thanksgiving starting to borrow.

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<v Speaker 3>There will be football on your TV every single day

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<v Speaker 3>until November twenty seventh, So fifty five consecutive days of

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<v Speaker 3>football thanks to Conference USA and the MAC because they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have gay games on Tuesday Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a great thing. It's awesome. Soak it in.

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<v Speaker 2>We made it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, football is going to be here for a while,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's exciting. It's Coffee and Company. I hope you

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<v Speaker 3>guys are excited about that. I'm excited to be here today.

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<v Speaker 3>My name's Nick Coffee. The company mana John all On alongside.

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<v Speaker 3>I won't speak for him, but I can just tell

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<v Speaker 3>he's excited today.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I'm in a great mood, and I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it has to do with the extra dose

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<v Speaker 1>of sunshine we're getting today.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I mean, I don't know how accurate the

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<v Speaker 3>vehicle I'm driving is when it comes to the thermostat

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, I've driven every vehicle that iHeart has.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I've driven one that like is not even ours.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's supposed to be in Lexington, because I've been

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<v Speaker 3>using company vehicles until I get my car back. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there's certain vehicles that are I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if they're assigned to certain people, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you are going to a remote for AMZ or

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<v Speaker 3>for KSR or for HAS, like I guess anybody who

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<v Speaker 3>is in charge of those productions, those remotes, you know

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<v Speaker 3>they have, They've got a vehicle they take each time,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, one day this one who's needed. So

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<v Speaker 3>all right, I'll take the gep, all right, I'll take

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<v Speaker 3>the Durango. I'll take the I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 3>it is that I'm driving right now. It's a Dodge something,

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<v Speaker 3>but it said seventy five on the thermostat, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if that's accurate or not, but I believe

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<v Speaker 3>it because seventy five's no not it's actually some would

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<v Speaker 3>say perfect. But you're throwing that breeze. We got going

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<v Speaker 3>on today, and it's a very, very beautiful day, so

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy it, everybody. As I mentioned, we are fueled by

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<v Speaker 3>Thornton's I think I mentioned that. I know you know that,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm supposed to say it, and I love saying it.

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully forever. Thornton's been a big time partner of ours

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<v Speaker 3>they re upped with us for another year. So that

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<v Speaker 3>are showing some love too, so keep that up. Certainly

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<v Speaker 3>or an iPhone, and you'll be good to go. All right, So,

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<v Speaker 3>not a great game this week in college football. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking here at the top ten matchups courtesy I

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<v Speaker 3>think this is from This is a graphic that I saved.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it came from either twenty four to seven

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<v Speaker 3>Sports or maybe on three, and they're ranking the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>matchups of the week. And I have a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if Missouri and Texas A and M is the best

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<v Speaker 3>matchup of the week, I mean, isn't that pretty telling?

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<v Speaker 3>No offense to the SEC. But like, you know, A

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<v Speaker 3>and M. They're still ranked, but you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think they've had a game where you can really figure

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<v Speaker 3>out if they're any good or not Missouri, you could

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<v Speaker 3>say the same exact thing. Boston College, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>should have beat Missouri. It's kind of an under talked

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<v Speaker 3>about game that you know, was really a close one

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<v Speaker 3>that Boston College. I shouldn't say they should have won,

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<v Speaker 3>but they were right there with the ball with a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to score and win it, and they came up short.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have no clue what's gonna happen. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>not a game that I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>are juiced about. Not a ranked matchup this week meeting.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no ranked teams playing each other. So to see

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville and SMU as the fifth best matchup here, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's pretty telling one as far as what

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<v Speaker 3>the week looks like for college football. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to overdo it. But I also think, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for only the program involved in the game, Louisville and SMU,

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<v Speaker 3>and I guess those watching the ACC race, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they know it. I'm sure nobody else knows or cares.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's a big game and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>overdo it because you know, I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 3>seasons on the line here, but if in fact the

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<v Speaker 3>goal was to get back to Charlotte. A loss here

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make that impossible, but it makes it, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>pretty unlikely. And it may be unlikely right now because,

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<v Speaker 3>as we discussed yesterday, the way the schedule sets up,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you gotta win this. You gotta win the

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<v Speaker 3>games you're supposed to win, and you got to split

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<v Speaker 3>with Miami and Clemson. A lot easier said than done.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm sure SMU is looking at this as I

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna say, the biggest game since they've been in

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<v Speaker 3>the ACC. I'm pretty sure this is what their second

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<v Speaker 3>ACC game. But think about it, like, right now, there

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<v Speaker 3>are four teams that I think people realistically think could

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<v Speaker 3>find their way to the ACC championship game in Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 3>The obvious two are Miami and Clemson. After that, it's

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville and then SMU. But not because SMU is viewed

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<v Speaker 3>as this team that's gonna run through the league because

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<v Speaker 3>they're elite. Their schedule, this is the last ranked opponent

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<v Speaker 3>that SMU is gonna play. I mean, I was I

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of speechless yesterday on the show. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if it was the four o'clock hour or the

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<v Speaker 3>five o'clock hour, I don't remember, but I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>stopped in my tracks when somebody on the text line

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<v Speaker 3>kind of asked, you know, hey, you know, if we

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<v Speaker 3>want to get to the AEC Championship game, you know

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta split those two games.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're right. I mean, you never know.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess crazy things can happen, but like, if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to bank on some very unexpected result playing out,

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<v Speaker 3>then take care of business and try to split with

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<v Speaker 3>with those two teams Clemson in Miami. But when I

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<v Speaker 3>looked at SMU schedule just to kind of see who

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<v Speaker 3>may have the best chance of getting there, SMU has

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<v Speaker 3>a very very manageable schedule. They got the gift that

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville got last year, but then again they kind of

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<v Speaker 3>didn't because last year Louisville they didn't have to play

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<v Speaker 3>Miami or they'd have to play North Carolina, Florida State

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<v Speaker 3>or Clemson. And in the end, only one of those

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<v Speaker 3>teams ended up being really good, which is Florida State.

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<v Speaker 3>But SMU got Florida State. They just got them, and

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<v Speaker 3>nobody knew they were going to be as bad as

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<v Speaker 3>they are, so like they got past that one if

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<v Speaker 3>they get past Louisville at that point, they can put

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<v Speaker 3>it on cruise control. Not to say that they won't

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<v Speaker 3>slip up, because I'm not really sure how good they are,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're playing well now, and like this is a

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<v Speaker 3>huge like in early October, they can, they can potentially,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't think they're going to. I think Louisville

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<v Speaker 3>will win their touchdown favorites for a reason. But like

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<v Speaker 3>if you're SMU, you look at this, it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we get this done and then we just stay focused

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, try not to screw up, and we

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<v Speaker 3>should find ourselves in Charlotte, which is crazy, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's where we are. So Duke, they're undefeated, but like

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if anybody really thinks Duke's good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>who's Duke's best win? Maybe Northwestern, I guess, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>North Carolina, but like North Carolina is terrible this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's a big win for them because of

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<v Speaker 3>the rivalry. But you know, so this game actually has

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<v Speaker 3>uh you know, and here's the thing. Louisville could beat

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<v Speaker 3>SMU and then SMU could win out when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to conference games. But if Louisville loses to both Clemson

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<v Speaker 3>and Miami, which again they're gonna be underdogs. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>SMU is gonna have the have the spot ahead of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we'll see what happens with Miami and Clemson.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't they don't. They don't play each.

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<v Speaker 2>Other this year.

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<v Speaker 3>So at the end of the day, what you need

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<v Speaker 3>to do is go seven and one. I mean, it'd

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<v Speaker 3>be great if you can go undefeated. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>that's realistic at all. And I'm not even saying they'll

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<v Speaker 3>go seven and one because I still want to see

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<v Speaker 3>this team put together a clean game, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to take a while for it to become

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<v Speaker 3>a consistent thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But they've just been sloppy. I mean, make no mistake

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>They have now when it comes to person I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty pleased with everything. I feel better from a

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<v Speaker 3>personnel standpoint than I did before the Notre Dame game.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Colin Lacy, that's a hell of a debut

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<v Speaker 3>for a guy who really hadn't played since he broke

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<v Speaker 3>his collarbone. I mean, j Cory Brooks continues to show

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<v Speaker 3>that he's a very, very good wide receiver, Tyler Shuck

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<v Speaker 3>had himself a day and then Isaac Brown. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>not to say I predicted it, but I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>did predict it when it comes to the running back position,

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<v Speaker 3>that true freshman, don't be surprised if you get to

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, week three, week four, week five, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's the guy that is the Folt is the ball carrier, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like he's not going to get every carry, but he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be the main piece and he should be

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<v Speaker 3>and I think he will be, which makes it even

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<v Speaker 3>more puzzling as to why they tried to go outside

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<v Speaker 3>with Donald Cheney, which that's not really his strength at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel good about Louisville.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I want to see him consistently play

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<v Speaker 3>some clean football because you've got SMU, You've got Virginia

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<v Speaker 3>next week on the road, a game you should win

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<v Speaker 3>because as Virginia stinks, and then you play Miami and

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<v Speaker 3>that's where you really get a chance you'll be you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be hopefully at that point, you'll be a five

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best teams in the country on your

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<v Speaker 3>home field. Now, they got to take care of business.

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<v Speaker 3>Before then. But if that presents itself, I mean that

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<v Speaker 3>that'd be awesome. So here in Rick Bose it should

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<v Speaker 3>WDRB did a write up here and I'll just read

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<v Speaker 3>you the the headline here at WDRB ACC Power Rankings

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<v Speaker 3>why SMU is a must win for Louisville and he

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<v Speaker 3>lays out sort of what what I just discussed when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to the schedules for both teams. So Clemson

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<v Speaker 3>to Miami will not play each other unless it's in

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<v Speaker 3>the AEC championship game. So if you just go off

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<v Speaker 3>of the rankings right now, Clemson has one remaining game

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<v Speaker 3>against a ranked opponent. Miami has one remaining game against

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<v Speaker 3>a ranked opponent. You know that opponent is it's Louisville.

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<v Speaker 3>So the schedule favors Clemson and Miami me because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not only I mean that's that's their toughest game left

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<v Speaker 3>on the regular in the regular season. Now, Clemson will

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<v Speaker 3>that will have no impact on the ACC standings. So

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville's gonna have to get through the best two teams

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<v Speaker 3>in the league. A home lost against SMU is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>make it to where one. You might at that point,

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna have to get better, right if you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you lose SMU, I would say, then you're probably

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have to improve substantially, maybe if you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>able to get past one of those other teams. Anything

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<v Speaker 3>can happen on any given Saturday, as they say, but

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<v Speaker 3>this is a huge game, kind of low key. It

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<v Speaker 3>feels weird because you know it's SMU. But it's a

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<v Speaker 3>big game, no doubt. So you slip up here, you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna need to one improve and then just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>bank on an unexpected result happening. And look, those happen

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<v Speaker 3>more often than not. Those happen. Now how many of

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<v Speaker 3>them I don't know. And again an unexpected result like

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<v Speaker 3>there could be some shake up, some prise, some surprises

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<v Speaker 3>in the ACC, but it may not be an upset

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<v Speaker 3>that really helps you when it comes to your your

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<v Speaker 3>can find yourself in Charlotte. So big game, no doubt,

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<v Speaker 3>and we will talk about SMU. Yeah, we just got

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<v Speaker 3>the RSVP. Billy and Body is a which a hell

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<v Speaker 3>of a name. Billy and Body.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>He is a beat writer covering SMU for their on

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<v Speaker 3>here at four thirty. The Pony Express is there is

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<v Speaker 3>their website and I like that. But he's gonna join

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<v Speaker 3>about SMU. Looking forward to that conversation, So join us

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<v Speaker 3>for that, and real quick, I don't wanna again, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to overdo this because I'm trying my best

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<v Speaker 3>to to really emphasize the importance and the value here

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<v Speaker 3>for Louisville on Saturday. But like, I'm not gonna act

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<v Speaker 3>like college football is going to be just, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fowming at the mouth waiting for these two teams to

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<v Speaker 3>kick it off, because I know that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, comparatively speaking, it's not a bad matchup considering this

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<v Speaker 3>week kind of stinks when it comes to big time games.

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<v Speaker 3>But nude is never good for fans. Fans hate noon games.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I selfishly love noon games, but I get why fans don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Just so you know, and I'm sure you've heard him

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<v Speaker 3>say it before on his coaches show or at a

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<v Speaker 3>press conference, Jeff Brown loves noon games. He play every

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<v Speaker 3>game at noon if he could, he played nine am.

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<v Speaker 3>If he could, I think he wants to wake up,

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<v Speaker 3>get his guys ready and hit the field. But none

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<v Speaker 3>on ESPN, not the Deuce, not the ACC Network, but

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<v Speaker 3>noone on ESPN. I mean there's value there. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be You're going straight from college game day to this

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<v Speaker 3>game at Cardinal Stadium. I would not be shocked if

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<v Speaker 3>this is one of the higher rated games for Louisville

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<v Speaker 3>this year, probably top three. I mean it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>sounds like a stretch when you play Clemson and you

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<v Speaker 3>play who is the Clemson and Miami. You know, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>that changes, but it'll depend on where where the game

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<v Speaker 3>is slotted and who you're competing against and Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 3>was a big game. But like for rating, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 3>ratings like only Peacock subscribers watch that game, So that

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<v Speaker 3>won't come close to what you get when you're just

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<v Speaker 3>on ESPN.

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<v Speaker 2>Like being just on ESPN, they're they're, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>big sticks.

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<v Speaker 3>They say, you're just getting a big boost in viewership

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<v Speaker 3>because so many people just have their TV on that

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<v Speaker 3>channel and they also have it on game day. So

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<v Speaker 3>just for the bleed in crowd that you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>get from game day is substantial. So I'm hoping that

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<v Speaker 3>the team comes out ready to play. But I'm kind

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<v Speaker 3>of just thinking, Okay, well, you know we'll see. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>be sloppy, you know, limit penalties, limit avoidable turnovers, get

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<v Speaker 3>off the field on third down consistently, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>you should be able to take care of business. By

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<v Speaker 3>the way, just a random stat that they're at you

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<v Speaker 3>SMU the most penalized team in the ACC, So let's

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<v Speaker 3>make sure we don't have more penalties than they do.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you noticed John, I say we a lot now

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<v Speaker 3>I started. I didn't used to do that. I used

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<v Speaker 3>to clearly, I'm never I've never acted like I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>a big fan, and I think on this show and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, over the years, like people can tell from

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<v Speaker 3>an emotional standpoint that, like, you know, I'm impacted by

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<v Speaker 3>winning and losing because I'm a fan like anybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>But I've always felt like it was unprofessional as a

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<v Speaker 3>broadcaster to say we, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Catch myself doing it too, and it's easy to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get in your head after you say it.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I now it doesn't even like register

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<v Speaker 3>to me that I did it, because I used to

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<v Speaker 3>do it and be like, oh wow, I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just do that, And I'm like, no, who cares, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm you know, I know, I'm like, it's a running.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's a running, you know line that people use

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<v Speaker 3>when somebody says it we or you on the team, no,

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<v Speaker 3>dumb ass, but like it's my team, So I say,

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<v Speaker 3>we can, you can? You quit taking yourself so seriously,

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm saying we. I mean again, I don't play

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<v Speaker 3>for the team. It'd be problematic if they were lied

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<v Speaker 2>But this, my.

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<v Speaker 1>Conversation, reminds me of of whenever fans say you can't

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<v Speaker 1>look ahead, as if we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yeah, and you know, like it's one thing

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<v Speaker 3>to say you hope the team doesn't look ahead, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but like quite literally, fans aren't gonna look ahead and

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<v Speaker 3>it won't have any factor on the team itself. And

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<v Speaker 3>if so, then you got big problems. But also like

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<v Speaker 3>that's what fans do, like you speculate, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like that's part of it. Imagine like living life as

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<v Speaker 3>a fan where you're like, nope, cannot think about anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a job to do. We've got to focus.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, boss, I'm not gonna be able to get those

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<v Speaker 3>reports to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta watch film.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to make sure I'm ready for something that

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<v Speaker 3>SMU is gonna throw at us. Can I get some

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<v Speaker 3>extra PTO? I have not watched enough film. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure I get some more conditioning in so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready to play. Like you know, fans can look ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's really what I mean Hex Sports Talk Radio.

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<v Speaker 3>Big part of that is speculation, and you know we

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<v Speaker 3>just only looked at in the now. I mean, that

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine if the entire week was an SMU deep dive.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be Although I don't know a lot about SMU,

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<v Speaker 3>not only their team, but like I know, they got

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<v Speaker 3>in trouble a long time ago and they were now this,

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is interesting about SMU, to be honest

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<v Speaker 3>with you. They were quite literally paying players, buying teams

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<v Speaker 3>essentially many many many years ago, and they got the

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<v Speaker 3>death penalty. But yet you know, here they are in

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<v Speaker 3>the ACC because they just wanted an invite. They got

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<v Speaker 3>Texas Oil money from alumni and boosters to where money's

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<v Speaker 3>never been a problem for SMU. I mean, they were

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<v Speaker 3>paying for players back then and they were the first

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<v Speaker 3>college program. And keep in mind this is not because

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<v Speaker 3>they've got like money from a big time lucrative TV

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<v Speaker 3>deal SMU. I'm pretty sure joined the league knowing, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't we don't need we don't need any any

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<v Speaker 3>money upfront, like maybe we'll start getting our revenue share.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll do that five years down the line.

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<v Speaker 2>We're good.

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<v Speaker 3>And then they raised enough money to where they won't

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<v Speaker 3>need it, and that speaks to how much money they

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<v Speaker 3>can pull in, which is pretty impressive, which honestly, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it means they're a sleeping giant, to be honest

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<v Speaker 3>with you, but they were the first program in the

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<v Speaker 3>NIL era to have I think it's called like the

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<v Speaker 3>Mustang something. I don't know what they call it. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it's the pony something. But they have a collective and

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<v Speaker 3>I only know this because Sam Williamson, former little basketball player,

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<v Speaker 3>transferred there have it.

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<v Speaker 2>They had it set up.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it might have been before last season,

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<v Speaker 3>Like before last year's sports calendar started, every college football,

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<v Speaker 3>every football player, and every men's and women's basketball player

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<v Speaker 3>from the collective was earning a minimum of thirty five

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<v Speaker 3>thousand dollars just almost just like a salary, Like that's

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<v Speaker 3>a that's an nil stipend that they could offer, And

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<v Speaker 3>that's before you mean, keep in mind, let's say you

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<v Speaker 3>get no nil money anywhere else, that's all you get.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to pay for a car, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>pay for where you live, you have to pay to eat,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to pay for health care. Like you also

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<v Speaker 3>get your your cost of some kind of a stipend

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<v Speaker 3>that like student athletes have been getting long before nil. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you're doing great, stack that money up when you leave college.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean a little spending money here and there to

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<v Speaker 3>have some fun. But if you save the rest of it,

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't have to pay to live anywhere, you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to enter the working world as a non professional

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<v Speaker 3>athlete with a big chunk of savings and a college

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<v Speaker 3>degree that you didn't pay for.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, am I wrong? John? That's badass. Oh that's the

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<v Speaker 2>best way to do it if you can. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So, like they in a weird way, of all the

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<v Speaker 3>schools that have been added, SMU CAL and Stanford, SMU

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<v Speaker 3>is the most intriguing to me because they're not coming

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<v Speaker 3>from a previous Power five but like they've got resources

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<v Speaker 3>that and a fan base that I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they are sleeping giant. And speaking of the fan base,

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<v Speaker 3>I had a buddy of mine who he works. He

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<v Speaker 3>is from He's he is an Smulum he's lived here

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<v Speaker 3>for I don't know, like five ten years or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that, and he claims they've got like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people coming like fans, which you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that may not be interesting to you, but

420
00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:14.359
<v Speaker 3>like Louisville usually does not. I mean, I'm trying to

421
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<v Speaker 3>think of games where you see the most fans from

422
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<v Speaker 3>the other side when they come to Louisville. Like Notre

423
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<v Speaker 3>Dame is clearly one that outside of Kentucky, of course,

424
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<v Speaker 3>but Notre Dame stands out. But like I don't a

425
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<v Speaker 3>lot of those people are Catholics in Louisville. Bet are

426
00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Kentucky fans that just you know, wear something Notre Dame to,

427
00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:36.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, go and cheer against Louisville. But like in

428
00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:42.200
<v Speaker 3>the ACC Clemson travels decent, but like it's not overwhelming.

429
00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:47.359
<v Speaker 3>Maybe we learn SMUs got an army out there. We'll see,

430
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<v Speaker 3>all right, if you guys would have joined us on

431
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<v Speaker 3>Union text line five oh two six five read zero

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<v Speaker 3>seven ninety. We got a lot to get to. A

437
00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:07.559
<v Speaker 3>very busy show today. We'll talk more realignment, not because

438
00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:10.160
<v Speaker 3>like you care what's going on in the Mountain West

439
00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:13.680
<v Speaker 3>or in the new PAC twelve basically the Mountain West plus,

440
00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:16.720
<v Speaker 3>but just some of the decisions made by the schools

441
00:21:16.720 --> 00:21:19.440
<v Speaker 3>that have decided to stay where they are, Like I'm

442
00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:23.119
<v Speaker 3>so curious to see and maybe we never will find out,

443
00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:26.920
<v Speaker 3>like why would you not take advantage of the opportunity,

444
00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:28.839
<v Speaker 3>Why would you not leave the Sun Belt? Why would

445
00:21:28.839 --> 00:21:32.000
<v Speaker 3>you not leave Conference USA. It's a real head scratcher.

446
00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:36.119
<v Speaker 3>So we'll get to that. Also talk about Louisville Live

447
00:21:36.160 --> 00:21:38.680
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more because obviously it's just a couple

448
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<v Speaker 3>of days away, and we now know who's going to

449
00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:45.240
<v Speaker 3>be participating in the dunk contest, and we also know

450
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<v Speaker 3>of a giveaway for those that are going to be

451
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<v Speaker 3>in attendance. So I don't know if this is going

452
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<v Speaker 3>to be a big incentive for you to make sure

453
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<v Speaker 3>you're there. But I'll tell you what it is on

454
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<v Speaker 3>the other side and you can decide for yourself. It's

455
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<v Speaker 3>Coffee and Company. We are fueled by Thornton's Nick Coffee

456
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<v Speaker 3>on Alden with you until six o'clock, So hang out

457
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<v Speaker 3>right here with us on Sports Talk seven ninety. So

458
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<v Speaker 3>there's not any details as far as how many they're

459
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<v Speaker 3>given away, or really if you need to do anything

460
00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:16.240
<v Speaker 3>to get them. However, the u of L men's basketball

461
00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:19.920
<v Speaker 3>twitter account did post that I'll read it directly from

462
00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:23.000
<v Speaker 3>their Twitter account, the giveaway everyone has been waiting for.

463
00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Grab them at Louisville Live on Friday, and then they've

464
00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:29.000
<v Speaker 3>got a buy tickets link and it shows a video

465
00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:33.079
<v Speaker 3>of all the players in front of the Young Center

466
00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:35.240
<v Speaker 3>before their photo op they were doing I guess, like,

467
00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:37.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, just doing promotional stuff for the event coming

468
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<v Speaker 3>up on Friday, and I guess they showed all the

469
00:22:40.440 --> 00:22:44.920
<v Speaker 3>players the Pat Kelsey glasses that he wears, you know,

470
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<v Speaker 3>those thick black rim glasses, and they all put them

471
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<v Speaker 3>on and we're pretty hyped. But the picture here shows

472
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<v Speaker 3>on one side of the glasses, it says Louisville on

473
00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:56.519
<v Speaker 3>the other side, it's got Pat Kelsey's autographs, So I

474
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<v Speaker 3>don't know how many they're given away, but I'm going

475
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<v Speaker 3>with the family, and I know Moose is gonna want

476
00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:04.480
<v Speaker 3>a pair. He's only four, he just turned four a

477
00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:07.400
<v Speaker 3>few months ago, and he's I mean, Pat Kelsey hadn't

478
00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:09.720
<v Speaker 3>coached a game, and he's he thinks he's the coolest

479
00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:11.759
<v Speaker 3>guy in the world. He got to, you know, meet

480
00:23:11.839 --> 00:23:14.440
<v Speaker 3>him at the at the Bats game. And then of course,

481
00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:17.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, I wasn't really talking Louisville hoops with my

482
00:23:17.680 --> 00:23:20.920
<v Speaker 3>children the early part of their life, for you know,

483
00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:23.799
<v Speaker 3>obvious reasons. My daughter, she was a baby whenever things

484
00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:26.039
<v Speaker 3>were going pretty well. But like with Moose, you know,

485
00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:28.599
<v Speaker 3>works out perfect. He's now at an age where he's

486
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<v Speaker 3>really into the go cards. That's what he calls him,

487
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<v Speaker 3>the go cards. We're going to where the go Cards

488
00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:35.519
<v Speaker 3>play on Friday, That's what he tells me. Uh and uh,

489
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<v Speaker 3>he you know, he's I'm not gonna put pressure on

490
00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Coach Kelsey, but like he's gonna be devastated if if

491
00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:43.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, Louisville isn't good.

492
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<v Speaker 1>With with Pat Kelsey and the Pat Kelsey era and

493
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<v Speaker 1>Hope being a success.

494
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<v Speaker 2>Hell yeah, I hope.

495
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<v Speaker 3>So you know, whenever president, the president of u of

496
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<v Speaker 3>L was, she was part of the first pitch that

497
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<v Speaker 3>that we did last month, and she you know, we

498
00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:01.839
<v Speaker 3>got to get our little guy in here too, talking

499
00:24:01.839 --> 00:24:04.240
<v Speaker 3>about Mason, not me. Funny joke for those of you

500
00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:08.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, and and he said, that's my next point guard.

501
00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:10.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he doesn't know who Mason is at the

502
00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:12.400
<v Speaker 3>time he did and whatever. But like that, like you

503
00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:14.680
<v Speaker 3>can't say that and not have it, you know, making

504
00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:17.759
<v Speaker 3>me feel unbelievable and hoping that it works out here,

505
00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:20.240
<v Speaker 3>and I think it will. But Friday is your first

506
00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:24.079
<v Speaker 3>chance to see all of these players in action in person.

507
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<v Speaker 2>You know.

508
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<v Speaker 3>If you went to the Bahamas, that's awesome. I know

509
00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:28.880
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people didn't get to go. And two

510
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<v Speaker 3>people reached out kind of saying the same thing yesterday

511
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<v Speaker 3>on the text line after I mentioned that, like there's

512
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<v Speaker 3>going to be legitimate Louisville fans that like their week

513
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<v Speaker 3>is impacted by what happens during basketball season with with Louisville,

514
00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:46.079
<v Speaker 3>and yet there they don't know anybody on the team,

515
00:24:46.160 --> 00:24:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Like they can give you a few names, but like

516
00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:51.880
<v Speaker 3>they're not every day into this, like we are, And

517
00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:53.559
<v Speaker 3>two people were like, I'm so glad you said that,

518
00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:56.039
<v Speaker 3>because like the starting five could walk into my house

519
00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:59.759
<v Speaker 3>and I wouldn't know they are. So you know, usually

520
00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:02.279
<v Speaker 3>this and look, this is this is really just a party.

521
00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:05.400
<v Speaker 3>This is a tip off of it to let everybody

522
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:07.839
<v Speaker 3>know basketball season is around the corner. I mean, for

523
00:25:07.880 --> 00:25:10.920
<v Speaker 3>the program itself, it's it's a chance to really show

524
00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:14.160
<v Speaker 3>recruits what you can do. Really, you know, make it

525
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:16.640
<v Speaker 3>a big time event to where fans will think, Okay,

526
00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:18.480
<v Speaker 3>this atmosphere is great. It's not a real game. But man,

527
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:20.640
<v Speaker 3>I want to make sure I come back to some games.

528
00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:22.559
<v Speaker 3>I want to make sure I get season tickets whenever

529
00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:26.400
<v Speaker 3>I can. But you know, for fans, it's really you know,

530
00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:29.279
<v Speaker 3>you have to worry about losing to Kentucky, Wesleyan or

531
00:25:29.359 --> 00:25:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Leanne Rimes. You know, you're just watching the guys dunk

532
00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:35.119
<v Speaker 3>and shoot three point, shoot three pointers, probably do some dancing.

533
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:37.359
<v Speaker 3>But there are some people I'm thinking that are like,

534
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:39.400
<v Speaker 3>all right, I'm gonna take notes because they're gonna introduce

535
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:41.440
<v Speaker 3>every single player and I'm gonna make.

536
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<v Speaker 2>Sure I.

537
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Remember who it is because it's all brand new, and

538
00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:50.039
<v Speaker 3>that's not something we've ever had around here, all right,

539
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<v Speaker 3>it's coffee and Company Field by Thornton's here on Sports

540
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<v Speaker 3>Talk seven ninety. Thanks for hanging out with us here

541
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542
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543
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544
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<v Speaker 3>line five zo two six five to three zero seven ninety.

546
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<v Speaker 3>So different, two different texts that are kind of in

547
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:13.119
<v Speaker 3>the same ballpark that I want to get to. This

548
00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:15.880
<v Speaker 3>one says Nick, why would any coach recruit players who

549
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.880
<v Speaker 3>quit on their team three games in the porlo doesn't

550
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:22.559
<v Speaker 3>open up until the end of the season. WTF, which

551
00:26:22.640 --> 00:26:25.160
<v Speaker 3>that means what the f? And then this one says Nick,

552
00:26:25.200 --> 00:26:27.200
<v Speaker 3>do you think we need to worry about anybody opting

553
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:31.400
<v Speaker 3>out who hasn't burned their year yet? Maybe Maurice Turner? Well,

554
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:33.559
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't even gonna read that part. Then I just

555
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:36.279
<v Speaker 3>got to read in the teleprompter like Ron Burgundy have.

556
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:39.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't want anybody to think Maurice Turner may opt out.

557
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:42.559
<v Speaker 3>He's only played in two games, he's injured, and maybe

558
00:26:42.599 --> 00:26:46.119
<v Speaker 3>he ends up being out longer. Than we anticipated, and

559
00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:48.319
<v Speaker 3>he has to has to use a red shirt, but

560
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:49.799
<v Speaker 3>that doesn't mean that he would just look to leave.

561
00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:52.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know, I have no clue.

562
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.599
<v Speaker 3>But as far as Louisville right now, there's a lot

563
00:26:55.640 --> 00:26:58.200
<v Speaker 3>of guys that have played in three games that have

564
00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:00.319
<v Speaker 3>not decided to opt out. They're gonna be ready to

565
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:05.160
<v Speaker 3>go if needed at Georgia Tech. And there are a

566
00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:08.640
<v Speaker 3>few that have played one or two and maybe, you know,

567
00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:10.160
<v Speaker 3>maybe they kind of play it out and kind of

568
00:27:10.160 --> 00:27:13.839
<v Speaker 3>see where they are. But this is this is this

569
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:16.680
<v Speaker 3>is the time. Right you're four weeks in. Some have

570
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:20.759
<v Speaker 3>played three games meeting teams. Some have played four, but

571
00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:22.680
<v Speaker 3>maybe certain guys didn't get a lot of playing time.

572
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:25.440
<v Speaker 3>So therefore, if there's four games in and you've played one,

573
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:27.400
<v Speaker 3>you still got to you can still play two more

574
00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:31.880
<v Speaker 3>before you have to think about, you know, backing out

575
00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 3>and burning your red shirt. So this, to me is

576
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:39.759
<v Speaker 3>another example of how we just got to realize this

577
00:27:39.799 --> 00:27:43.200
<v Speaker 3>is a new world. This is completely different than what

578
00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:47.480
<v Speaker 3>it once was. Players have the ability to look out

579
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 3>for themselves. They have more control than they've ever had,

580
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:55.880
<v Speaker 3>and it's it's different. So when you see guys that

581
00:27:55.920 --> 00:28:00.519
<v Speaker 3>are going ahead and red shirting and essentially quitting. Like

582
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 3>part of me says, I don't want to call it that,

583
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:07.759
<v Speaker 3>but like it is. I mean, you're not packing up

584
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:09.759
<v Speaker 3>and leaving, I would assume, because that would make it

585
00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:13.039
<v Speaker 3>difficult for you to be able to academically maintain your

586
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.400
<v Speaker 3>status to where you could be eligible to transfer somewhere.

587
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 3>But I think if I was, if I was in

588
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:21.519
<v Speaker 3>the if I was in the shoes of one of

589
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:25.960
<v Speaker 3>these players and I knew I didn't like my role,

590
00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.400
<v Speaker 3>didn't like how I was being utilized, just knew I

591
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:34.920
<v Speaker 3>was not gonna be there next year, I would choose

592
00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:37.240
<v Speaker 3>to be upfront with my coach and tell him this

593
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.680
<v Speaker 3>is what I'm doing. Because if you don't have the

594
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:43.240
<v Speaker 3>stones to do that and just be up front and

595
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:47.559
<v Speaker 3>be direct with your coach and you know you're leaving

596
00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:49.480
<v Speaker 3>what you're gonna do. If he put he tries to

597
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:51.279
<v Speaker 3>put you in the game, you just say no. That's

598
00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:53.279
<v Speaker 3>a bigger pr nightmare for you as a player that

599
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:55.720
<v Speaker 3>you refuse to go in the game. So it's not

600
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:58.720
<v Speaker 3>a good look, and it's so new to everybody that

601
00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:02.599
<v Speaker 3>it's just weird. But I think all these guys that

602
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:04.880
<v Speaker 3>are this week. I think there were maybe a couple

603
00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:07.240
<v Speaker 3>last week that did it, not locally, but just you know,

604
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.839
<v Speaker 3>across the country. It's still so new that it just

605
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:14.279
<v Speaker 3>seems like, wow, this is unheard of. I got quitting

606
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:18.559
<v Speaker 3>on his team in three games. But if they've only

607
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:20.480
<v Speaker 3>got I mean, it doesn't even have to be one

608
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:23.400
<v Speaker 3>year of eligibility left. If you've got however many years

609
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:25.160
<v Speaker 3>left and you don't want to burn one knowing you

610
00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:26.920
<v Speaker 3>don't want to waste a year, especially.

611
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:27.079
<v Speaker 2>When you can.

612
00:29:27.359 --> 00:29:29.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, a year's a year of eligibility. That's a

613
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:31.880
<v Speaker 3>salary for you. I mean, most most of these guys

614
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:36.039
<v Speaker 3>are making some level of money, so you know, in

615
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:41.799
<v Speaker 3>a way it's kind of you know, it's kind of a.

616
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 2>Bad deal for the school. But that's the NS double

617
00:29:43.799 --> 00:29:44.319
<v Speaker 2>as fault.

618
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:46.319
<v Speaker 3>So again, these guys who now opt out after three

619
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:47.920
<v Speaker 3>games because they know they don't want to play a

620
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:50.119
<v Speaker 3>fourth in burn, burn a year of eligibility because they

621
00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:53.160
<v Speaker 3>know they're transferring, they're still getting every pity that they

622
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 3>were supposed to get, at least they should be, because

623
00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.039
<v Speaker 3>now maybe some schools have learned that say, hey, you know,

624
00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:01.480
<v Speaker 3>you've got certain obl gations that you have to but

625
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:05.720
<v Speaker 3>like it's such a mess because NIL, from like a

626
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:08.319
<v Speaker 3>legal standpoint, is not about playing.

627
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:09.720
<v Speaker 2>It's just who you are.

628
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:15.319
<v Speaker 3>So if you've got four appearances through the collective that.

629
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:19.559
<v Speaker 2>You or what you have to do as.

630
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:21.759
<v Speaker 3>A player to get the nil money that you're supposed

631
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:24.160
<v Speaker 3>to get if you opt out, but you're still on

632
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.640
<v Speaker 3>the team, like you're still there on scholarship. You just

633
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:28.440
<v Speaker 3>decided to not play the rest of the year, and

634
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:30.720
<v Speaker 3>you show up at one of these events, can they

635
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:32.680
<v Speaker 3>tell you, no, you're not needed. You're not getting paid

636
00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:35.279
<v Speaker 3>because from a legal standpoint, they're not paying you to play.

637
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:36.200
<v Speaker 2>No, it has nothing to.

638
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:38.759
<v Speaker 3>Like we all know that it is pay for play.

639
00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:42.599
<v Speaker 3>But because the ns DOAA drugged their feet for so

640
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:47.200
<v Speaker 3>many years and wanted this nonsensical amateurism model.

641
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Which is archaic to lift forever.

642
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:52.640
<v Speaker 3>That's why, you know, that's that's how that happens, and

643
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.000
<v Speaker 3>that's really you know, maybe we'll see some change down

644
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:58.319
<v Speaker 3>the line, but right now, you like you chalk that up.

645
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:00.440
<v Speaker 3>That's the cost of doing business. I mean, that's what

646
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:01.799
<v Speaker 3>it is. It's a loss. But that's the cost of

647
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:06.359
<v Speaker 3>doing business right now in college sports. So I would

648
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:08.880
<v Speaker 3>I think these dudes who are being labeled quitters, I

649
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:11.279
<v Speaker 3>can't say that you're a liar because they're not quitting.

650
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:14.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean they are, but they're also looking out for themselves,

651
00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:16.079
<v Speaker 3>and I think you would probably do the same thing.

652
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:19.839
<v Speaker 3>Like there was so much noise out there in the

653
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.720
<v Speaker 3>first couple of days about that UNLV quarterback he quit

654
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 3>on his team, and I don't know how he can

655
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:27.079
<v Speaker 3>go in the locker room and look at the It's

656
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:29.920
<v Speaker 3>a job. Now, you don't give a damn about that.

657
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, hopefully he makes friends and he's a good

658
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:36.240
<v Speaker 3>team player, but it's a job. And if you were

659
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:38.880
<v Speaker 3>told you were to be paid something and then you're not, like, well,

660
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 3>I'll suck it up and you know, sacrifice potentially six

661
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.319
<v Speaker 3>figures because I just love these guys. I mean, that's

662
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:47.440
<v Speaker 3>not what this is anymore. And that makes people uncomfortable

663
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:50.880
<v Speaker 3>because as long as we've ever known college sports, I mean,

664
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:56.519
<v Speaker 3>this wasn't this didn't exist, this whole new world. So

665
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:01.640
<v Speaker 3>that's why players are doing that. And if you were look,

666
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:05.559
<v Speaker 3>if you're a coach, and we've seen it enough already,

667
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:08.720
<v Speaker 3>dudes will have red flags out.

668
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:09.160
<v Speaker 2>The rear end.

669
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:12.599
<v Speaker 3>But if they're in the portal and they're available, coaches

670
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:13.839
<v Speaker 3>are going to go get them if they think they

671
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:17.920
<v Speaker 3>can play. So a guy opting out and wanting to

672
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:20.680
<v Speaker 3>move on this early, maybe there are some coaches that

673
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:22.480
<v Speaker 3>would say, yeah, that's not the kind of guy I

674
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:23.920
<v Speaker 3>want to go get. But I would be willing to

675
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:27.480
<v Speaker 3>bet if that players talented. There are programs that would

676
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, coaches, I should say that would be fine with,

677
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:34.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, making an exception and going and getting those guys.

678
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:36.960
<v Speaker 3>All right, So real quick before we get to our

679
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.440
<v Speaker 3>next break back to Louisville Live. We now know who's

680
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:42.480
<v Speaker 3>in the dunk contest. And we had somebody yesterday ask

681
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:44.319
<v Speaker 3>you know who I would who I would put in

682
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:46.240
<v Speaker 3>the dunk contest? If you know who I would who

683
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:47.839
<v Speaker 3>I would think would win? And I wanted to wait

684
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 3>and see who's in it. I don't know who's going

685
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:50.640
<v Speaker 3>to be in the three point shootout. It would not

686
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:52.680
<v Speaker 3>shock me if like every player on the team is

687
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:55.200
<v Speaker 3>in the in the three point shootout, maybe other than

688
00:32:55.240 --> 00:33:00.400
<v Speaker 3>Trey Ora, but that's probably about it. I mean, maybe, uh,

689
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Big Frank. I don't think he's much of a three

690
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:06.359
<v Speaker 3>point threat, but we'll see. They haven't announced who's going

691
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 3>to be in the three point shot up. But the

692
00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:12.920
<v Speaker 3>dunk contest is gonna be Kahaney, Russ Cater, Trail Ray, Chucky, Hepburn,

693
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:17.000
<v Speaker 3>and uh Frank anselom Ivy. That's the one guy, like

694
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I call him Big Frank, but the double last name

695
00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:23.319
<v Speaker 3>and him being like the most like kind of not

696
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:25.920
<v Speaker 3>discussed edition, Like he was one of the last scholarships,

697
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:27.839
<v Speaker 3>and he's been a four year guy that really hasn't

698
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 3>played a lot of minutes anywhere he's been. So it's

699
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:32.559
<v Speaker 3>not that I forget he's around, but like I forget

700
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:35.039
<v Speaker 3>his last name anselom Ivy, which let's be real, that's

701
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:38.640
<v Speaker 3>not you know, that's it's not a super common last name.

702
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:42.680
<v Speaker 3>But of those guys, and look, dunk contest is all about,

703
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:46.720
<v Speaker 3>like creativity and how it looks. Big dudes have always

704
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:48.880
<v Speaker 3>been at a disadvantage when it comes to dunk contests.

705
00:33:48.920 --> 00:33:52.839
<v Speaker 3>Like Dwight Howard won what one two dunk contests, maybe

706
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:55.720
<v Speaker 3>more than that, and he would like jump over a car,

707
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:58.359
<v Speaker 3>he would put on a Superman cape. And this is

708
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:01.319
<v Speaker 3>an era when the dunk contests suck, so he didn't

709
00:34:01.319 --> 00:34:03.920
<v Speaker 3>have a lot of competition. But like big dudes can

710
00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:06.319
<v Speaker 3>do something that is crazy impressive, but because you're seven

711
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.840
<v Speaker 3>foot tall or close to it, it doesn't look impressive. Like

712
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:11.800
<v Speaker 3>Nate Robinson. I mean, he did some really cool stuff,

713
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:14.119
<v Speaker 3>but it looked cooler because he was five foot five.

714
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:21.880
<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna I think I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

715
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.199
<v Speaker 3>go Trailray because he's long, but he's not that tall.

716
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:26.360
<v Speaker 3>He's like six ' five and he's super athletic, so

717
00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:28.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go. Tray Ora is my pick for the

718
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:30.559
<v Speaker 3>winner of the dunk contest. I don't think you can

719
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:32.039
<v Speaker 3>get action on it, and I doubt it's up there

720
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:33.639
<v Speaker 3>for you to wager on, but if so, let me know,

721
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:36.559
<v Speaker 3>because I'll I'll bet on Trey Ora. All right, quick break,

722
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:38.239
<v Speaker 3>We'll come back on the other side. Keep this thing

723
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724
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:45.400
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726
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728
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<v Speaker 3>So somebody wrote in on the text line saying, so essentially,

729
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:02.039
<v Speaker 3>players can just red shirt every year and take money

730
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:06.360
<v Speaker 3>and just become millionaires. No, you only get one red shirt.

731
00:35:06.400 --> 00:35:08.400
<v Speaker 3>It's not like you can just keep I mean it

732
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:10.760
<v Speaker 3>would be wild though, if you just played ten years

733
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.039
<v Speaker 3>and you never burned a year of eligibility because you've

734
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.320
<v Speaker 3>moved on out. I mean eventually somebody would you know,

735
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:16.599
<v Speaker 3>somebody would pick up on that.

736
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:18.320
<v Speaker 2>But but no, I mean, you.

737
00:35:18.239 --> 00:35:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Only get one year to red shirt when it comes

738
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:25.159
<v Speaker 3>to just like not playing enough games as far as

739
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:28.440
<v Speaker 3>medical red shirt, and then there's like a hardship waiver

740
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.400
<v Speaker 3>where you can get a red shirt. So you know,

741
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:33.960
<v Speaker 3>there was there was a might have been Lincoln Riley

742
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:36.360
<v Speaker 3>maybe who said something recently in a press conference about

743
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:39.119
<v Speaker 3>how it should just be that you get five years

744
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.239
<v Speaker 3>and the only scenario you would get a sixth year

745
00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 3>was if you had two season ending injuries. And I

746
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.039
<v Speaker 3>kind of don't think that's I mean, you think that's fair, John,

747
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's I think that's probably that wouldn't

748
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:56.400
<v Speaker 3>be controversial, right.

749
00:35:56.440 --> 00:35:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I think that's fine.

750
00:35:57.400 --> 00:35:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I do think now that this is the final year

751
00:35:59.800 --> 00:36:02.679
<v Speaker 1>of the COVID season, I do think once you get

752
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>a few years removed from that, they'll be a lot less,

753
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, jumping around and you're seeing rosters overfilled and

754
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, so maybe it won't even be that

755
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:12.000
<v Speaker 1>big of an issue down the line.

756
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

757
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:14.880
<v Speaker 3>If you remember during the during the summer of the

758
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:19.159
<v Speaker 3>college basketball Candid Coaches feature that CBS Sports did, they

759
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:23.760
<v Speaker 3>asked coaches a question that actually was something Caliperry had

760
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:25.239
<v Speaker 3>brought up at one point. I don't know if this

761
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:28.360
<v Speaker 3>was something he said in his early days there first

762
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:31.599
<v Speaker 3>few months at Arkansas, but that if you stay at

763
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:36.079
<v Speaker 3>a school all four years, you can qualify for a

764
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:41.239
<v Speaker 3>fifth year. And I kind of like that because that's

765
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:43.559
<v Speaker 3>going to be rare, right, Like, that's not a guy, Hey,

766
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 3>this program, this coach has developed me for four years. Now,

767
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:49.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go cash in elsewhere, you know what

768
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:52.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Like I kind of I mean, I'm not

769
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:53.920
<v Speaker 3>saying like they should do it, but if they did,

770
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:55.679
<v Speaker 3>I would have no real issue with it, because one,

771
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:58.119
<v Speaker 3>it would benefit a coach for keeping a guy around

772
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.280
<v Speaker 3>when there's temptation at all times to move on elsewhere.

773
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:04.039
<v Speaker 3>And it would reward the player giving him one extra

774
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:06.440
<v Speaker 3>year to maybe go out with a bang and make

775
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.239
<v Speaker 3>some more money, because he you know, he was loyal

776
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 3>to his program. I doubt they do it, because that's

777
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:13.719
<v Speaker 3>just that's a very random like way. I mean, that's

778
00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:16.119
<v Speaker 3>I doubt that ever happens. But if that's another one

779
00:37:16.119 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 3>of those things that if they put that in place,

780
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:18.440
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have an issue with it.

781
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:20.639
<v Speaker 1>What do you think you'd have to pretty much force

782
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:22.199
<v Speaker 1>them to go to grad school? I feel like that's

783
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:24.199
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing that about.

784
00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:26.280
<v Speaker 3>Or you know, I guess in a way, you can

785
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:28.880
<v Speaker 3>be eligible in college and not graduating four years, you

786
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:30.519
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. Like, so maybe that's maybe that's

787
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:33.880
<v Speaker 3>the way the way to go about it. But yeah,

788
00:37:33.920 --> 00:37:35.599
<v Speaker 3>I mean I like in that and this is just

789
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.280
<v Speaker 3>me kind of thinking for the smaller, lower level schools

790
00:37:38.320 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 3>like the mid majors and even lower you know, that's

791
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:43.599
<v Speaker 3>where you'd that's where they'd benefit, you know what I mean.

792
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:46.239
<v Speaker 3>Like if they had good players who didn't become good

793
00:37:46.239 --> 00:37:49.480
<v Speaker 3>players until their fourth year, well they they got another

794
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:51.039
<v Speaker 3>year to come back as a fifth year guy, and

795
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:52.000
<v Speaker 3>they can only play there.

796
00:37:52.039 --> 00:37:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean that that'd be tough.

797
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:55.519
<v Speaker 1>Though, if they finally break through and they have all

798
00:37:55.559 --> 00:37:58.639
<v Speaker 1>these offers from big time schools at that point, maybe

799
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe they hadn't experienced temptation to leave before.

800
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:02.679
<v Speaker 3>But they wouldn't have it. That's what I'm saying, Like,

801
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 3>you only get a fifth year if you stay at

802
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.079
<v Speaker 3>your school. You can't leave, Okay, Like that's what I'm like.

803
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:10.480
<v Speaker 3>So you're awarding players, so like, yeah, you can, you

804
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 3>know you can. You can play a fifth year, but

805
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.599
<v Speaker 3>it's only because you've played all four at your school

806
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:17.519
<v Speaker 3>that that would make it to where and it's there. Look,

807
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:19.519
<v Speaker 3>there's still a lot of disadvantage the mid majors, the

808
00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:22.559
<v Speaker 3>smaller schools, and they always have been like Nil has

809
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:26.280
<v Speaker 3>yet to really in the grand scheme of things, changed

810
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:28.760
<v Speaker 3>the food chain in college sports, right Like, and we've

811
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:31.800
<v Speaker 3>talked about it many times, John, The one team that

812
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:34.039
<v Speaker 3>that you feel like they paid and they it paid

813
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.199
<v Speaker 3>off was that Miami Final four, right yeah, because they

814
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:38.400
<v Speaker 3>had no Chadowmere. They went and got the kid from

815
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:40.920
<v Speaker 3>who's still there by the way, Igel Pack. Yeah, he's

816
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:44.119
<v Speaker 3>still there at at Miami. But that like, other than that,

817
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:48.440
<v Speaker 3>teams making like TCU making the championship game two years ago,

818
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:52.840
<v Speaker 3>that had nothing to do with with Nil Washington last

819
00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.000
<v Speaker 3>year breaking through and playing for a title that that

820
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 3>wasn't mean I'm sure they utilized in IL, but like

821
00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.239
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't because oh wow, now they can pay for

822
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.960
<v Speaker 3>players and they got a lot better they they they

823
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 3>got Kaalin to Borr before anybody else did.

824
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:04.719
<v Speaker 2>That's how they ended up there.

825
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:07.800
<v Speaker 3>So if you are a smaller school, you're still always

826
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:11.000
<v Speaker 3>going to be a disadvantage no matter what in IL, no, nil, whatever.

827
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:14.599
<v Speaker 3>But that is where you feel like, Okay, we've got

828
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.119
<v Speaker 3>something special here to where you know, if I can

829
00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:18.800
<v Speaker 3>keep these guys here and get them for a fifth,

830
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:21.159
<v Speaker 3>you know that's an added bonus for you in this

831
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:23.800
<v Speaker 3>new world where for the most part, when you think

832
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:26.440
<v Speaker 3>about who's winning and who's losing, I can't think of

833
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:29.239
<v Speaker 3>many wins for the small schools. There's the occasional scenario

834
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<v Speaker 3>where a good player from a higher level will transfer

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<v Speaker 3>down and really have an impact for you, but that

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<v Speaker 3>that's that doesn't happen that often. I mean, maybe it does,

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<v Speaker 3>we just don't pay attention. But it hasn't impacted enough

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<v Speaker 3>to where you look at all these mid major teams

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<v Speaker 3>making deep runs because they had power five guys decide

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<v Speaker 3>to drop down. But there's no doubt the early results

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<v Speaker 3>here because we're still new and it's still new it's

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<v Speaker 3>still a new world, but the Portal and NIL have

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<v Speaker 3>just made it to where college athletes, which are now

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<v Speaker 3>essentially pro athletes, they now see a value in staying

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<v Speaker 3>in college and playing longer. And I think that's good

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<v Speaker 3>for the sport, especially basketball. Basketball is different because there

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<v Speaker 3>are plenty of guys who you know, they know, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I can go play basketball over seas. You're not playing

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<v Speaker 3>football overseas in the NFL. I mean, you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>a different. Football is just different from a professional standpoint overall.

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<v Speaker 3>But there are guys who would walk away from Like,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah I could, I could maybe stick around for two

853
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<v Speaker 3>more years, but I'm as good as I'm going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm never going to be an NBA player. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to start my pro clock now and get two years

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<v Speaker 3>where I'm in my prime, making a good salary overseas,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll come back and go to school later. Like

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<v Speaker 3>this is about using my craft, my tool to make

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<v Speaker 3>a living for myself and staying in two years for college.

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<v Speaker 3>Yead be a great experience, but like, and I ain't

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<v Speaker 3>making money. It's a good it's benefit. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not hurting probably right, you're on scholarship, You're living in

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<v Speaker 3>a nice student you know, team house, team dorm.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably you got meals.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's not like you're being tortured, but like you

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<v Speaker 3>could also go make six figures or more playing overseas.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you stayed in college two more years, that's

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<v Speaker 3>just two years where yeah, you had a convenient lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 3>but you missed out on a salary. So now they

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<v Speaker 3>you know, these guys are making more money playing college basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Hunter Dickinson. I would love to know how

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<v Speaker 3>much money that guy has made and will make when

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<v Speaker 3>it's all said and done. I mean, he'll he'll play

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<v Speaker 3>pro for a while, not in the NBA, but he'll play.

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<v Speaker 2>Pro for a while if he wants to.

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<v Speaker 3>But I wouldn't be shocked if you know, when he

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<v Speaker 3>calls it a career, you look back and he realizes

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<v Speaker 3>that he made more money in college than he did

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<v Speaker 3>in the pros. It's crazy, all right, you'd be crazy

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<v Speaker 3>not to stick with us for the next two hours,

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<v Speaker 3>So don't go anywhere. It's coffee and company if you'ld

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<v Speaker 3>about Thornton's dight here on Sports Talk seven ninety
