1 00:00:28,559 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from 2 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:39,000 boy S Adaho. This is your host, Adam Graham. In 3 00:00:39,079 --> 00:00:42,039 a moment, we are going to bring you the first 4 00:00:42,359 --> 00:00:47,159 podcast featuring The Big Story. But first I do want 5 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,520 to encourage you, if you're enjoying the podcast, to please 6 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:55,320 follow us using your favorite podcast software, and I want 7 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,000 to encourage you to check out our other podcast and 8 00:00:58,159 --> 00:01:02,079 today I am highlighting the Great Adventurers of Old Time Radio. 9 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,200 Of course we do bring you Kloak and Dagger on Saturdays, 10 00:01:06,239 --> 00:01:10,079 but over on the Great Adventurers feed we are now 11 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:15,920 featuring Adventure Ahead on Tuesdays. It's a really interesting series 12 00:01:16,079 --> 00:01:20,920 featuring book and short story adaptations that will be playing 13 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,519 for the rest of the year, when, of course we 14 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,719 will bring you Tarzan again. We have so many great 15 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,680 adventure series coming. Be sure and check it out at 16 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,280 the Great Adventurers of Old Time Radio at Great Adventures 17 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,480 dot info. Now let's go ahead and talk about the 18 00:01:38,519 --> 00:01:43,239 Big Story. The Big Story was actually a quite popular 19 00:01:43,519 --> 00:01:48,799 and successful anthology program. It had an eight year run 20 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,920 on radio from nineteen forty seven to nineteen fifty five 21 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,280 and also an eight year run on television from nineteen 22 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,719 forty nine to nineteen fifty seven. It was an anthology 23 00:02:01,879 --> 00:02:08,960 series focusing on the investigations of newspaper reporters, so there 24 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,680 is a different lead each week, just as we've got 25 00:02:13,719 --> 00:02:17,159 going on with Cloak and Dagger. But these are intriguing 26 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,360 cases from reporters across the nation, most of whom have 27 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,879 been forgotten. And really the era covered is kind of 28 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:33,479 a golden age for American newspaper journalism. Most major cities 29 00:02:33,879 --> 00:02:40,879 had multiple competing newspapers with circulations in the high hundred 30 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:46,919 thousands to the millions. This meant big ad revenue and 31 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,680 there was a huge demand for news and a need 32 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:55,639 for reporters who would dig to find the truth. The 33 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,800 series is also very well researched. It was answered by 34 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:06,080 the American Tobacco Company for both the Pall Mall and 35 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:10,840 later Lucky Strike cigarettes. As a result of the tobacco 36 00:03:11,159 --> 00:03:15,800 settlement and the records turned over, the Old time radio 37 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,759 researchers have a pretty complete archive of all of the 38 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,840 episode scraps, and this includes the cast list, which, given 39 00:03:25,879 --> 00:03:29,360 that the series originated in New York, is a bit 40 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,759 of a trait. Now. While there were more than three 41 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:38,039 hundred and eighty broadcast of this series. We only have 42 00:03:38,439 --> 00:03:42,680 about a tenth of them, which is sadly far too 43 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:46,560 common for many old time radio programs. But what we 44 00:03:46,639 --> 00:03:49,680 do have are going to be quite an interesting variety. 45 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,919 So let's go ahead and get started with the Big Story. 46 00:03:53,039 --> 00:03:57,240 The original air date on this one is June fourth, 47 00:03:57,639 --> 00:04:01,400 nineteen forty seven, the tenth episode of the series, and 48 00:04:01,439 --> 00:04:03,960 the Tunnel is the thirteenth Key. 49 00:04:07,879 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: This Jimmy. 50 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,479 Speaker 3: The following broadcast over the National Broadcasting Company and a 51 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,160 coast to coast network is being made on June fourth, 52 00:04:18,439 --> 00:04:22,199 nineteen forty seven. The story is based on the Snooke 53 00:04:22,319 --> 00:04:27,000 six murder case of nineteen twenty nine. These recordings will 54 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,759 be made during the actual broadcast over. 55 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: W l W Cincinnati. Ooh, Cometter. 56 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: And I think there was nobody around here. She was wrong. 57 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:56,079 Speaker 2: Look there lying in the glass. She's dead. A big story, 58 00:04:57,199 --> 00:05:00,079 another in a thrilling series based on true experience the 59 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,079 newspaper reporters. Tonight, the James E. Fusco of the Columbus 60 00:05:05,079 --> 00:05:28,319 Citizens goes the Pellmell Awards for the Big Stories. Now 61 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:42,399 the exciting and authentic story of the Thirteenth Key. By 62 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,199 the time you James Fusco reporter for the Columbus Citizen 63 00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:49,920 reached the rifle range at McKinley Avenue, official road. The 64 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,839 Quada fleet causes on the cluster of curious citizens. You 65 00:05:54,959 --> 00:05:56,879 push through their morbid mutterings. 66 00:05:57,319 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: In your states, the lawyers of the law, your high 67 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,399 to colin As got his work. 68 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: Any identification corner? 69 00:06:07,519 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 4: Not yet, Jimmy, take a look for yourself. Maybe you 70 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,920 know what littlebody I know, she's pretty was you're me 71 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,519 was because of cutting. 72 00:06:19,199 --> 00:06:23,319 Speaker 2: Her throat life. Take a closer look. Do I have 73 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:24,759 to look? Jimmy. 74 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 4: I'm giving you a clue, free for nothing. 75 00:06:27,079 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: Okay, what are we're supposed to do this? 76 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: That's not just any kid. 77 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: It's careful, surgical. Thanks for the tip. Okay, boys, take 78 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,279 her away, aff O'Connor. 79 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:42,079 Speaker 4: That's all for now anyways, Good afternoon, mister Dreyond. How's 80 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,199 the protective. 81 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: Business higher, Jimmy, not plenty of it today? I bring 82 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:47,120 you here. 83 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,759 Speaker 4: Oh, I turned up at the best murders got any 84 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,120 kIPS funny? Not now? 85 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:53,399 Speaker 2: Just way? 86 00:06:53,959 --> 00:06:55,519 Speaker 4: Where are you going nowhere? 87 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: I got noticed something in the grass here, none was 88 00:07:00,879 --> 00:07:01,199 hitting it. 89 00:07:03,079 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 4: Find something. 90 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, I must have been lying under the girl's body. 91 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: If want to buy any chance to be a key? 92 00:07:10,199 --> 00:07:12,279 Speaker 2: What made you ask that it's a key ring? 93 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: I let must go with thieves. 94 00:07:14,519 --> 00:07:17,839 Speaker 2: I found them scattered all around keys yep, and even 95 00:07:17,959 --> 00:07:21,199 doesn't the wonder what the thirteenth sid? 96 00:07:21,439 --> 00:07:23,439 Speaker 4: But do you know they were thirteen? Hey? Do who 97 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,000 start suspecting nasty? 98 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 5: All I did was figure, well, let me and all 99 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:29,879 this figure in elementary, My dear Watson, I found the 100 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,959 key ring. Who found twelve keys? Put twelve and one together? 101 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,759 And the conclusion is somebody took those keys off the 102 00:07:35,879 --> 00:07:37,680 ring to get at another key. 103 00:07:37,879 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: Yeah that makes sense, sure, thirteen keys? 104 00:07:43,079 --> 00:07:44,199 Speaker 4: But who took the key? 105 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: I know who the murderer? 106 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,879 Speaker 4: Wow, your bus stoppers the mirror telephone. 107 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: You give me right enough to make the first position? 108 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: It was one DM deadline. You're riding. The next stop 109 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,279 is the mortuary. There you find Bill Dorton on your 110 00:08:05,279 --> 00:08:07,839 own paper. Automatically you compare notes. 111 00:08:08,279 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: You got the angle on the cut in the thrill 112 00:08:10,639 --> 00:08:12,839 it had been done by a dozen Yes, and the 113 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,399 key character, Yeah that I got had Did you know 114 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,040 the police as sent for the folks whose daughter's been missing? 115 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,839 Speaker 4: The Bellini's You know I didn't know that? 116 00:08:19,959 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: Well they're coming over this. 117 00:08:21,759 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 4: I mean, now, boy, he's laid out, okayrew she still yeah? 118 00:08:33,759 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: Well, h something I didn't notice at the rifle range. 119 00:08:38,639 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 4: But her hands, huh for those long singer neils the 120 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:44,080 perfect manicure, so. 121 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: So she couldn't be the Blini girl. 122 00:08:46,039 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 4: A Blini girl worked in the laundry. This couldl never 123 00:08:49,279 --> 00:08:57,120 worked with her hands. Believe Jill Darton at the mob 124 00:08:57,279 --> 00:09:00,600 to wait for a talk about identification. You'll go back 125 00:09:00,639 --> 00:09:02,960 to the citizen office to write the round up story. 126 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,919 You're about fine paragraphs down when the phone start for 127 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:07,360 jumping in. 128 00:09:11,039 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, ja is Dawson. I got a present for him. 129 00:09:14,159 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 2: Bader read that girl with. 130 00:09:15,759 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 6: Jeff to identified. She's ever married with an old Johnson. 131 00:09:19,039 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 5: Matt says too, and NaN's going who. 132 00:09:21,519 --> 00:09:23,799 Speaker 6: She's e gonna love this. She was a second year 133 00:09:23,879 --> 00:09:26,360 med student at Ohio State. She was twenty five. 134 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,879 Speaker 4: Folks identywhere Nope, they lived down south. 135 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 6: She was identified by two roommates who'd. 136 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: Missed her for two days. 137 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:35,159 Speaker 6: Then I ended up an old Graham and Frank Beaton. 138 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,440 And if you walk right right over to apartment two 139 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:40,600 B above the Military Shop on Green Street, you catch 140 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:41,320 him coming home. 141 00:09:41,519 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: But The question is will they talk. No, that will 142 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,039 not answer any questions that please. 143 00:09:57,399 --> 00:09:59,399 Speaker 6: You have come nerve coming here. 144 00:09:59,639 --> 00:10:03,039 Speaker 4: First, dying and waitress at the door of our own apartment. 145 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: You're leading off type of tea. Why don't you bet 146 00:10:06,159 --> 00:10:07,120 he's like a gentleman. 147 00:10:07,159 --> 00:10:08,159 Speaker 4: He's if you're not woman. 148 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,919 Speaker 2: Let's go back your filthy paper. 149 00:10:10,639 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 4: Please, Frank. 150 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,879 Speaker 2: She's awfully upsets to Fusco, and so am I, Miss Graham. 151 00:10:15,039 --> 00:10:19,080 Please realize I'm only doing my job, you shock, Yes, 152 00:10:19,279 --> 00:10:21,679 Miss Eat, it's my job to ask questions, to find 153 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,919 out everything I can about your roommates. Pilty more than Julio. 154 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,279 You don't have to mean he's just doing his job. 155 00:10:28,639 --> 00:10:29,480 Job is stop. 156 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,919 Speaker 4: Why won't you so so away? 157 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: Even from long? Because I'm a reporter, and believe me, 158 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,840 I don't enjoy troubling you at a time like this 159 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,679 anymore than you like being troubled. I don't think mister 160 00:10:41,879 --> 00:10:43,159 Fusco will do anything wrong. 161 00:10:43,399 --> 00:10:45,519 Speaker 5: I want, Miss Graham, it's a little information in your 162 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,759 roommate a picture, if you have one, anything you can 163 00:10:47,799 --> 00:10:48,679 tell me about her phone. 164 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:51,039 Speaker 2: You won't put anything out of me, rece Eat. 165 00:10:51,159 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 4: You make me say something I don't like to say. 166 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,879 Speaker 2: Mister Fosco, she doesn't mean anything. She's just terribly upset. 167 00:10:56,919 --> 00:10:59,600 We're both us that. Please, maybe if you come back 168 00:10:59,639 --> 00:11:00,120 and long. 169 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,879 Speaker 5: There's no tomorrow in the newspaper business Ms. Graham and 170 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,679 Miss Eaton, I have this to say. I can't go 171 00:11:06,759 --> 00:11:10,840 back to my office you want to. I can't go 172 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,840 back and write that you were too upset to talk 173 00:11:13,879 --> 00:11:15,200 about your friends if. 174 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: You'd only come back later. 175 00:11:16,799 --> 00:11:20,279 Speaker 4: Or I can write you refuse to reveal anything about her. 176 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: They both mean the. 177 00:11:21,399 --> 00:11:22,799 Speaker 4: Same thing, but they. 178 00:11:22,759 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: Sound awfully different. You wouldn't do a thing like that. 179 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,919 Believe me. I'm not digging for dirt in a girl's tragedy. 180 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 5: I'm trying to find a line or a murder. 181 00:11:30,639 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 4: You'll only tell. 182 00:11:31,279 --> 00:11:31,879 Speaker 5: Me one thing. 183 00:11:32,159 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: Thing, that's just one thing. I think this is a 184 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:35,639 love murder. 185 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 4: If you'll just tell me the name, the names of 186 00:11:37,799 --> 00:11:38,960 the men she went out with. 187 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 2: It wasn't that kind of a girl. Somebody maybe you 188 00:11:46,799 --> 00:11:49,440 didn't know about, somebody she might have been seen secretly, 189 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:51,759 somebody who wrote her love letters, letter she might have 190 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,600 left in her room. 191 00:11:52,919 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 4: You can't just let me take a look around. O Jesus, 192 00:12:00,279 --> 00:12:01,159 have it your way. 193 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: You asked if Ellen Johnson had a boyfriend. Well he did. 194 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,000 You got to find Lewis Jack. Why did they have 195 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:11,440 a quarrel? 196 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,799 Speaker 4: I can't tell you anything more, just his name, Lewis Jeh. 197 00:12:14,879 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: Wait, wait, what did he do? Is he a doctor? 198 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 4: Why not? But he is the doctrinary. 199 00:12:34,279 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: We'll be back in just a moment. 200 00:12:35,799 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 4: With the night's big story. And now we return you 201 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:53,279 to your narrator, Barry Calder and the big story. Alrett, 202 00:12:53,759 --> 00:12:57,039 you don't make for the pet fan, so you've turned 203 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,440 the name of the murdered girls boyfriend over the belawn. 204 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,399 They took up a little tracks fast and you get 205 00:13:02,399 --> 00:13:04,720 to sit in on the ciroo was the last time 206 00:13:04,759 --> 00:13:06,799 he saw miss Johnston? Was well? 207 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 2: I had to go upstate last week to a buttonalian 208 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,919 field demonstrations, ant facts, injections. 209 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 4: And added black legs stumps. 210 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: Uh, that was the last week around the girl. When 211 00:13:20,279 --> 00:13:21,480 did you see the girl? 212 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 4: I'm trying to tell you yet. 213 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,399 Speaker 2: The demonstration was Friday and I was supposed to get 214 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,200 back that night. Only well, you know how those things are. 215 00:13:32,799 --> 00:13:35,279 I always say the best lay plans of mice and 216 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,960 know if I answer a straight question, when did you 217 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:38,320 see her? 218 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 4: Last? Oh? Day after I came back from the convention, Sonny, 219 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,159 we went riding. 220 00:13:45,759 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: I wanted to go to the movies because I had 221 00:13:47,759 --> 00:13:50,720 a very studious time and I thought the movies would 222 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,360 be fun. But she wanted to go light so your quarreled. 223 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,120 Oh no, just the lover's fast, you. 224 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,159 Speaker 4: Know how it is? What's about little things? You? You 225 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:00,799 will love me? 226 00:14:02,039 --> 00:14:02,279 Speaker 2: Well? 227 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 4: You know? 228 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: I strut to kind there. We went out a lot together. Yeah, 229 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,879 I don't know. I'm trying to find out why asking 230 00:14:10,919 --> 00:14:13,320 me all these questions? After all, I only went out 231 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:13,919 with a girl. 232 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,919 Speaker 4: Got You can't bring my fellow for going out with 233 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:16,679 a girl. 234 00:14:16,919 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: Lewis, Uh huh. I'm going to stand all over again 235 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,360 right at the beginning, and Lewis make the Andrews short. 236 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:27,399 Speaker 6: Got right? 237 00:14:28,159 --> 00:14:30,279 Speaker 4: But could I ask the question? 238 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: Say? Now he's asking the questions of the did I 239 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,320 have a drink of water? Holy cat? 240 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 4: Mean? 241 00:14:42,519 --> 00:14:46,039 Speaker 2: What what do you think? Would anybody be that dumb? 242 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,360 Or if he playing, don't be I don't know, but 243 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,480 I've got an idea. I want to take a crack 244 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:51,000 of question. 245 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,159 Speaker 4: Think you can break him now? Now, why don't you 246 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,200 take him to the morgue and make him look at her? 247 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:57,679 Speaker 7: Now? 248 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,159 Speaker 4: Lewis, you get to the morgue? What tim to find 249 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,240 their little woman having an argument? 250 00:15:09,799 --> 00:15:10,799 Speaker 6: What's going I'll go in? 251 00:15:10,919 --> 00:15:11,759 Speaker 2: Why should I go in? 252 00:15:11,919 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 4: Here? 253 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:14,639 Speaker 2: I'll hold you. 254 00:15:14,759 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 4: Now you're a law. 255 00:15:17,399 --> 00:15:20,679 Speaker 2: Well, I just like her around my head? X Joan, 256 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:22,679 you're to be What are you're trying to do? 257 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 5: Click back? 258 00:15:23,399 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: When boring a home lady? And I want the trouble 259 00:15:25,159 --> 00:15:25,480 here around? 260 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: Who he wants to go? Look at the girl? She's 261 00:15:27,519 --> 00:15:28,240 a landlady. 262 00:15:28,519 --> 00:15:30,279 Speaker 2: What do you want to free or for? Because I 263 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,240 knew her and her husband both her husband? 264 00:15:32,919 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 4: You mean she lived with her two girls and her husband. 265 00:15:35,399 --> 00:15:37,399 What are you going to be asking me questions? Never 266 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:37,879 mind him? 267 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,279 Speaker 2: Answer me that just about her husband? And what about 268 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:41,919 the two girls? 269 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:42,159 Speaker 4: What? 270 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:44,039 Speaker 2: Two girls? The law on Francis? 271 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,639 Speaker 4: The ones who lives with her up stairs over the 272 00:15:45,679 --> 00:15:46,399 millinery store? 273 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 2: Oh with a millner? 274 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,039 Speaker 4: Look you're crazy. 275 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,679 Speaker 2: I run a boarding house over on South Wilson Street. 276 00:15:51,879 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: She never lived with no two girls. 277 00:15:53,519 --> 00:15:54,519 Speaker 5: She lived with her husband. 278 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:55,039 Speaker 4: What do you know? 279 00:15:55,679 --> 00:15:59,679 Speaker 2: I sure would? Uh, Lewis, where. 280 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: What do you want? All right? Lady? 281 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:08,679 Speaker 2: Did you ever see this man before? 282 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: Never? In my life? 283 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,559 Speaker 2: No it? Did you ever see this woman before? 284 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:14,679 Speaker 4: No? Never? 285 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: Why did she kill Miss Johnson? Shut up? 286 00:16:18,919 --> 00:16:27,039 Speaker 4: Did either of you ever see her? You both know her? 287 00:16:27,879 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: Well, that's her. That's the girl who lived with Joe 288 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,720 Place as a married woman, and that's the girl you 289 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,159 went out with as a single girl. 290 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 4: Well, one of you is lying or she was Niam? 291 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:43,720 What name did she give when she boarded with you? 292 00:16:43,799 --> 00:16:44,159 Speaker 2: That's right? 293 00:16:44,159 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 4: What names you give? Why? 294 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: The married name of course, mister and missus ed Smith Smith? 295 00:16:48,679 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: What did he do? 296 00:16:50,039 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: Why? 297 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,159 Speaker 5: He never did say, but they're comings. 298 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: And goings were off lobs. 299 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: I know she studied over to the hospital, and I 300 00:16:57,159 --> 00:17:00,879 kind of figured the way he always carried a dog. Yeah, yeah, 301 00:17:00,879 --> 00:17:04,519 I want Well, I'm just thinking he was a doctor. 302 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:15,279 Speaker 4: It's just so well. The police got the bumbling boyfriend 303 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,680 free with a warning to stay in town, and they 304 00:17:18,759 --> 00:17:23,319 start looking for doctor ed Smith. Elma be gives one 305 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,960 clue to the identity of his obviously tony name that 306 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,480 woman he drove a blue coupet. And then you add 307 00:17:31,559 --> 00:17:34,839 deal with the cruse you and you make them evaluate 308 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,599 them the endorsement of your soil. 309 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Bill, here's how it shapes up. 310 00:17:39,079 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 4: Now we know he was reading a double life. That 311 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,319 puts the finger on it as a love murder. 312 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 5: Item one he was a doctor sid Item two he 313 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:52,279 has a missing piece, said Item three he drives a. 314 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:57,319 Speaker 4: Blue cupet, and item four he must have been familiar 315 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:58,079 with a rivalry. 316 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: It's not ordinary he placed to go with a girl. 317 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,920 He must have been attracted to it somehow. 318 00:18:03,759 --> 00:18:08,759 Speaker 4: And item five he acquires the land lady may be 319 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,240 the key to the thirteenth key. 320 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what I want to call on. 321 00:18:14,799 --> 00:18:15,519 Speaker 4: That land lady. 322 00:18:15,559 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: Why don't you wait here. 323 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 4: And start checking the sports department clip but bore. 324 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,799 Speaker 2: Rifle matches, crysto matches, shooting me look. 325 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 4: For contestants with doctors or. 326 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: Even nicknamed docs. 327 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 4: This doctor Smith, ma'am. When did you see him last? 328 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 3: Well, the day they founded body for that happened? 329 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,519 Speaker 2: He come to turn in the keys? What key to 330 00:18:45,559 --> 00:18:46,240 their apartment? 331 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 4: The thirteenth keys? Uh? At? 332 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,519 Speaker 2: About what time did he turn in the keys? 333 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 4: Oh? 334 00:18:54,799 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: Round about the middle of the afternoon. Is there anything? Yep? 335 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 4: He said, here you are man, we want to it anymore. 336 00:19:01,039 --> 00:19:03,400 Why did he say that? Because he said they was 337 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,039 leaving town. 338 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: He said they worked. 339 00:19:06,759 --> 00:19:11,319 Speaker 4: Say do you think he's done us? What do you think? 340 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,519 Speaker 2: One thing? All we have to do is find a 341 00:19:22,559 --> 00:19:24,960 middle age doctor who drives a blue coupe and who 342 00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:27,160 frequents or is familiar with the rifle range. 343 00:19:28,039 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 4: Now what do you do? You know what I found 344 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:30,519 on the cliffs? 345 00:19:30,599 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: Anything? 346 00:19:31,039 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 4: Which just this? The former pixel champion of the United 347 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,880 States competed in the match of the range the day 348 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,240 before the body was found. 349 00:19:38,039 --> 00:19:41,039 Speaker 5: His name is Lance Krackett, who lives here in Columbus, 350 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:46,200 known in pistol and rifle circles as docs. Why because 351 00:19:46,200 --> 00:20:07,480 of the doctor that must be him going the lawn. Yeah, 352 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,960 that's a cracket. Yes, I'm Steve. 353 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:17,519 Speaker 2: Dler, Columbus Police. This is Kim fust Off from the citizens. 354 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 4: Will have come with us? Donche what's off? Questioning about? Why? 355 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: Letter of missus Johnston? Did you know what? Yeah? Letter, 356 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:34,960 come along dungeon. 357 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 4: Wow, let me shave and tell my wife. Then I'll 358 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:40,359 drive over. 359 00:20:40,839 --> 00:20:43,799 Speaker 2: I think you'd better come with us, doctor, but you 360 00:20:43,839 --> 00:20:44,400 can tell you what. 361 00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 4: I'll be right out. He certainly will, because I'm coming in. 362 00:20:49,759 --> 00:21:00,599 Will you wait here, Jimmy, Oh, I don't fire Moody 363 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,599 And that body, which is the point you've been naming 364 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,599 at ever since you looked at the body. It carefully 365 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,000 cut cloth. And now all you can do is think 366 00:21:12,599 --> 00:21:15,759 on that to day it is get you a little 367 00:21:15,759 --> 00:21:19,720 piece of grass. Study the green stains on the inside 368 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:27,000 wheel of the long one being things coolcause an idea. 369 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:34,799 Walk over to the garage attached to the doctor's pig. Good, 370 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:44,200 you kind of twitch. There's a cause there. It is 371 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,599 a blue cupet. Yea, there is a thing on the 372 00:21:52,599 --> 00:21:53,480 a red thing. 373 00:21:56,519 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: They can be a little bit detective and returns. 374 00:21:58,079 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 4: What I hope you've been giving you. Get out the 375 00:22:00,519 --> 00:22:03,440 neonpaper and Vistrail doesn't bring him the doctor right away. 376 00:22:03,559 --> 00:22:07,119 If he holds the story a little longer, it will 377 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,440 be too late the morning. Opposition he agrees with that. 378 00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:14,200 You're borrowed about this car? Is you make one stop? 379 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,720 Then you make a phone call. 380 00:22:20,759 --> 00:22:24,839 Speaker 2: Bill Dawson, Jimmy Fuscoll. I think we've got the killer. 381 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,240 I'll dictate the whole story to you, but first let. 382 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 4: Me set something with you. The doctor's car was just 383 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,279 left at a lap to have a stain analyze. I 384 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,119 have an idea of deny it's blood. 385 00:22:35,839 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 5: I want to confront him with the truth if it 386 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,640 is blood. So I'll dictate the story. Now I'll go 387 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,680 ahead and run it and I'll call you back where 388 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,480 the arrest is open. 389 00:22:43,559 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 4: The report's coming in. 390 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: Now if anybody wants me. I'll be looking up the 391 00:22:47,319 --> 00:22:48,759 land lady first and then i'll be. 392 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 4: At Police head Quay. 393 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 2: All right, ready here, police today arrested doctor Lance Krackett, 394 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,400 position and former pistol stamps of the United States or 395 00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:03,240 question the election with the murder. 396 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 4: Him. 397 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,599 Speaker 6: It's been three hours since we ran that story on practiced. 398 00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:20,240 The rest and death is going crazy. It's been played 399 00:23:20,279 --> 00:23:22,400 by the press services and every I know, I know, 400 00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:24,759 and what's more, some of the painters of caring than 401 00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:27,480 I have a RX him and you've got the paper. 402 00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:27,799 Speaker 4: And a fox. 403 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,559 Speaker 2: You've gotten crazy, I don't think. 404 00:23:29,599 --> 00:23:31,079 Speaker 6: So where's the dick and the doctor? 405 00:23:31,799 --> 00:23:34,799 Speaker 2: Frankly, come on, come on, I don't know. 406 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: Finally, the detective has got the doctor in the back 407 00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:49,400 way to the chief office. 408 00:23:50,519 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: He wins at you, the detective that. 409 00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 4: Is, and fine timed with the okaying did I keep 410 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:58,880 him up long enough? 411 00:23:59,279 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 5: You're almost low? 412 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:05,839 Speaker 4: Suppose are general? They sip the doctor down. They asked 413 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:11,240 him quiet, careful questions. Did he know the girl? Did 414 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:13,079 he kill her? No? 415 00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:15,799 Speaker 2: Did he stay here? 416 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 4: Yes? 417 00:24:18,519 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: But be a lover. 418 00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 4: No welcome for very quiet questioning, very calm answering. His 419 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,599 case is air tight until you ask to have it 420 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:38,039 held up a moment and all on the landlady, missus Hammitt, 421 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,200 Is this the man who boarded with miss Johnson? Yes? 422 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,400 Is he the one who returned the key? 423 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 2: Yes? Thank you? 424 00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 5: All right, doctor, you might as well tell her how 425 00:24:51,519 --> 00:24:52,079 it happened. 426 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 2: I will you killed her? 427 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 4: No, I didn't have a date with her that night. 428 00:24:58,759 --> 00:25:01,559 He's threatened to blackmail mine me if I didn't give 429 00:25:01,599 --> 00:25:05,119 her money, so you'll kill it. No. I remonstrated with 430 00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:08,039 her and said I'd raised the money, but she said 431 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,359 she had to have it now, so you'll kill it. No, 432 00:25:10,599 --> 00:25:11,759 why argue them? 433 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 2: Pleaded and promised, and then I threw her out of 434 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,799 the car and drove away after killing him. 435 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 4: No, somebody else must have done that after I left. 436 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,759 Speaker 2: That's your try. That is the truth. 437 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: Why did you return the key? Because I wanted to 438 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,559 end the whole business. It won't use that apartment anymore. 439 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,319 There are only two things wrong with that explanation, doctor. 440 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 5: One is you couldn't have got that key ring from 441 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,920 her without using force. 442 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 4: I didn't get the keyring man. 443 00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: The other is the time you returned the keys. 444 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,039 Speaker 4: I turned the alternative at two o'clock in the afternoon, 445 00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:49,799 the day after your. 446 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 2: Care, the day her body was found. That's right. 447 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,839 Speaker 4: How did you know she was dead? I read it 448 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:54,359 in the paper. 449 00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: They sure positive. 450 00:25:56,759 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 4: I read it in the early edition. The sure that, doctor. 451 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 5: Here's a clipping of my first story, the one from 452 00:26:05,039 --> 00:26:05,680 the early edition. 453 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 4: Need it all right? Police were called Friday afternoons the 454 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:17,000 rifle range in Fisher Road, near mckimley Avenue, where oh 455 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:24,799 where the unidentified body of a woman was found. 456 00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:30,759 Speaker 2: Out the mesphew was called. They're right, that's all. 457 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:32,559 Speaker 4: Doctor. 458 00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 5: How did you know the body was that of your girlfriend? 459 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,839 When the paper carried no name? That story appeared on 460 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,480 the street at one thirty o'clock. You returned the key 461 00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:45,200 at two o'clock. 462 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 2: The extra identifying the body was not out until five. 463 00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:54,920 How did you know the body was miss Johnson? You 464 00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:57,240 told the landlady you wouldn't be needing the key anymore. 465 00:26:57,279 --> 00:26:58,039 Speaker 4: How did you know that? 466 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: Doctor? 467 00:26:58,519 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 4: How did you know. 468 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 2: Upon your house? Because you were the only one. 469 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,519 Speaker 4: Who knew that early that she would get. 470 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 2: You can't prove that speaking yes, thank you very much, 471 00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:20,640 that was it. 472 00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:22,079 Speaker 4: Jim the news. 473 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,519 Speaker 2: We've been waiting for good. What did you just say, doctor, 474 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,519 We can't prove you that it's now, you can't prove it. 475 00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:34,000 We can help get me. Bill Dorton at the Citizens 476 00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:38,759 just listening in on my conversation with my paper doctor Crankon. 477 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 4: Bill about that laboratory test of the stain in the car. 478 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,759 Speaker 2: We just got the report. I can tell you in 479 00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:51,599 one word, blood. 480 00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:57,279 Speaker 4: That does it. 481 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 2: That's it. 482 00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:03,079 Speaker 4: You'll help to apprehend the murderer and you've got your 483 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:21,039 big story. In just a moment, we'll read you a 484 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,640 telegram from James Foscoe. Now here's that telegram sent by 485 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,440 James Foscoll the Columbus Citizens. Thank you for dramatizing my 486 00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:33,680 big story, Doctor Wisan Gilly, of murder in the first degree. 487 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:38,400 Statements I took a killer's concession were introduced as evidence 488 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,079 in trials. I received number one. 489 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: Ticket to execution. Again. 490 00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:45,799 Speaker 4: Many thanks for pell Mell Award. 491 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,279 Speaker 2: Thank you, Mitter Fusco. The makers of pell Mell famous 492 00:28:49,319 --> 00:28:51,599 cigarettes are proud to have named you winner of the 493 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,880 pell Mell five hundred dollars Award for notable service in 494 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,880 the fielder journalism. 495 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,799 Speaker 5: Listen again next week same time, same stations. 496 00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 4: When cigarettes will present another big story. 497 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,279 Speaker 1: Welcome back in an interesting episode. The voice you heard 498 00:29:09,519 --> 00:29:13,839 at the beginning was none other than James Fusco himself. 499 00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:19,799 This may have been a special rebroadcast, as someone suggested 500 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,279 given the introduction. Someone else thought that this might have 501 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,119 been a case where Fusco recorded the program at a 502 00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:35,000 radio station and he, in making this sort of personal recording, 503 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,240 goes ahead and provides a verbal record. Okay, this is 504 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,680 what this particular disc is, but we don't know for sure, 505 00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:46,920 and we also don't know how this came into the 506 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,400 hands of old time radio collectors, but that can be 507 00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:55,359 said of most transcriptions. And our hero was indeed none 508 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,200 other than John Gibson, aka the voice of Ethelbert, who 509 00:30:00,319 --> 00:30:03,559 gets a chance to play the reporter detective hero here. 510 00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:09,400 The narrator, of course, was Barry Kroger, with James Mcallian, 511 00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:16,440 Ward Wilson, Gilbert mack Horace, Bram Connie Lemke, Janet Fowx 512 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,599 rounding out the cast. And this does have a bit 513 00:30:20,799 --> 00:30:24,359 of a rep company feel to it. Some of the 514 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,680 actors who are in supporting roles would actually start in 515 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,920 other episodes. The idea of there being an afternoon paper 516 00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:41,559 that could essentially have itself set up with a story 517 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,839 so that it was past the time that the morning 518 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,240 papers could get it in is something that is really 519 00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:53,359 a relic of this age, and it's gonna be tough 520 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,960 to imagine, because you know, if you grew up, lock 521 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,440 me in a world where newspapers put out one newspaper day, 522 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,759 and you know, you watched old movies about big, big 523 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,000 city newspapers and they're running multiple editions and can say 524 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,079 at any time, we got to put an extra out. 525 00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:15,960 You know, there might be some degree of realism if 526 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,079 you're a big New York or Chicago paper, but this 527 00:31:20,319 --> 00:31:23,519 is Columbus, and while you might be able to support 528 00:31:23,759 --> 00:31:28,039 multiple newspapers, they probably all couldn't have multiple editions. 529 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:28,559 Speaker 5: Now. 530 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: I know that on Dragon Now people ask you what 531 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:39,119 was the case behind a particular episode, and often there's 532 00:31:39,319 --> 00:31:43,240 not an answer, and that certainly can be true of 533 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:49,559 the Big Story. But doctor Joe Webb has actually identified 534 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:58,079 several of the stories that are covered in Big Story episodes, 535 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,480 and some of the sources he cited for being able 536 00:32:01,559 --> 00:32:08,039 to determine this is that sometimes the reporters would write 537 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,319 memoirs and you could gather that from the memoirs, and 538 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,680 it would even be covered in some cases in their 539 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,480 obituaries when they passed. And one thing that he points out, 540 00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:26,799 and it's important to keep in mind when thinking about 541 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:32,039 the pile Mall Award. While you know, our mind think 542 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:38,119 five hundred dollars is well, that's okay in the money 543 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,720 of the time, he points out that's was six thousand 544 00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:45,440 dollars and it was actually the money that the big 545 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:49,119 story gave out was the same amount of money that 546 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,319 you would get for winning a poll, a serprize. So 547 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,640 oftentimes the newspapers would be quite proud and they would, 548 00:32:56,799 --> 00:33:00,200 you know, promote the reporters. So from various sources is 549 00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,079 they've been able to determine some of these. Some of 550 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:08,079 them are not determined. Whenever it is there, i'll elect, 551 00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:13,599 you know, If it is not there, then we don't 552 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,880 know the exact story. If any of you are curious 553 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,279 and happen to be able to figure one of these 554 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,599 out that haven't been identified, I'll certainly read about it 555 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,440 on the air. This one is actually a pretty easy 556 00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:34,680 one to identify. This was a very famous case. Even 557 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,160 if Fusco hadn't mentioned it at the start of the episode. 558 00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:44,359 It's probably one of the most notorious murders in the 559 00:33:44,519 --> 00:33:48,319 history of Columbus, Ohio. And there are more details of 560 00:33:48,599 --> 00:33:53,440 the case, which honestly are a bit laurd. It's quite 561 00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:57,240 understandable why they were not included in the Big Story. 562 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:03,440 Columbus Underground doc commented the case, and there are full details, 563 00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:07,359 many of which understandably were left out of the radio program, 564 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,440 involving drugs and the details of the affair which I 565 00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:15,239 don't feel a need to repeat, but I will include 566 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,719 a link to the show notes for those who want 567 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,679 to read about that. All right, well, now it is 568 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,840 time to think our Patreon supporter of the day, and 569 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,920 I want to go ahead and thank Robert, Patreon supporter 570 00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:36,119 since August twenty sixteen, currently supporting the podcast at the 571 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:39,239 Detective Sergeant level of seven dollars and fourteen cents or 572 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,840 more per month. Thank you so much for your support, Robert, 573 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,639 and that will do it for today. If you're enjoying 574 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,159 the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast software 575 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,760 and be sure to rate and review the podcast wherever 576 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,360 you download it from. We'll be back next Tuesday with 577 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,559 another episode of the Big Story. But I'm us back 578 00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:03,400 here tomorrow for Broadways my bait where. 579 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 7: It's a nice day, wasn't it, Danny? 580 00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:06,119 Speaker 4: What did you find? 581 00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: Muggavin found him. 582 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 7: Like that, all broken up about the bullet in his chest. 583 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,800 Tried to tell me why it was there. The word 584 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,000 never got out. It was phoned in, Yeah, from the 585 00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:17,599 back room of a bar down the alley. The friendly 586 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,920 Chap wanted out for a breath of fresh air. Saw this, 587 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,000 ran back to the bar and made his phone call, 588 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,280 bought drinks for the house. He's still celebrating. If you 589 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,880 want to talk to you talked to him. Yeah, friendly 590 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,360 Lush invited me to a cold beer. 591 00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:32,079 Speaker 4: I didn't take him. He knew this man. 592 00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 7: Never had the pleasure. He told him all the citizens 593 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,440 of the alley never had the pleasure. 594 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,119 Speaker 4: I checked, Uh, huh, what's that in near hand? This? 595 00:35:40,039 --> 00:35:41,159 Speaker 1: Oh, I almost forgot. 596 00:35:41,559 --> 00:35:43,599 Speaker 7: It's a ticket for parking, made out to a Charles 597 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,559 crandall over parking the loading zone. He can snap his 598 00:35:47,679 --> 00:35:48,239 fingers at. 599 00:35:48,159 --> 00:35:48,639 Speaker 4: It now, huh. 600 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,679 Speaker 7: This year with he day, Muggivin, I tried Danny days 601 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:53,880 like this. I guess I don't make it. 602 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: You'll be with us then. In the meantime, send your 603 00:35:57,039 --> 00:36:00,679 comments to Box thirteen at Great Attack t dot net. 604 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,920 Follow us on Twitter, radio detectives, check us out on Instagram, Instagram, 605 00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:10,880 dot com, slash Great Detectives from Boise, Idaho. This is 606 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,199 your host, Adam Graham, signing off.