WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:08.679 Multiple people in my family clean my father, are veterans. 2 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:10.919 Troops that have been to war and now they're back. 3 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:13.599 And think and be grateful for their service. 4 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:17.719 Sacrifice, love for their country, just unselfishness, all that they 5 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:20.160 do for us. There are some people in this country 6 00:00:20.199 --> 00:00:24.879 who take extraordinary steps to provide for the freedom and security. 7 00:00:25.120 --> 00:00:26.600 We forget that those people exist. 8 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:30.559 We know them as the Army, Navy, air Force, Marines, 9 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:37.600 and Coast Guard. They call themselves soldiers, seals, rangers, airmen, sailors, 10 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:39.119 devil dogs. 11 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:40.320 And so much more. 12 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:47.000 We call them fathers, brothers, sons and husbands, mothers, daughters, 13 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:52.439 sisters and wives. We call them friend and neighbor. These 14 00:00:52.520 --> 00:01:02.479 veterans answered the call. Now we answer theirs, and they. 15 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:02.240 Are the best our country has to offer. 16 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:07.439 And we love them. Today, we honor them and we 17 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:14.799 serve them. David Malsby is your host, and he welcomes 18 00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:18.680 you to this community of veterans, as together we are 19 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:21.840 building the road to hope. 20 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:24.519 And indeed we are glad to have you along. 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Currently am a mentor at the 64 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:42.639 PTSD Foundation of America Camphip Camp Hope site. 65 00:03:42.719 --> 00:03:46.240 Excuse me, and you came through Camp Hope wind, Yes, sir, 66 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:46.800 I came to. 67 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:50.840 The program myself in March of nineteen of twenty twenty. 68 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:52.599 Two, twenty two. Yes, sir, so it took you a 69 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:55.719 little while to find us, Yes, sir, after your last deployment, sir, 70 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:58.919 has a long time in between, Yes, sir. And we 71 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:02.199 also have a gentleman that's currently in our program at 72 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:04.719 Camp Hope right now, Joe, you want to give the 73 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:06.080 world a grand introduction. 74 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:12.360 My name is Joe Rowe and I'm currently a resident 75 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:18.079 at Camp Hope and I'm eternally grateful for the program 76 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:23.959 and Pastor himself and Tyrone, who's my mentor. I'm a 77 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:24.639 changed man. 78 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:29.120 I don't believe in luck, but if you use the 79 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:31.920 term luck, you got lucky, you got a good You 80 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:35.079 got a good mentor over there, Yes, sir, all right, 81 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:37.319 so you served in the Marine Corps. 82 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:41.439 I was in the Navy, but I volunteered for service 83 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:45.800 with the Marine Corps. I've been involved in Desert Shield, 84 00:04:46.480 --> 00:04:52.639 Iraq times two other deployments that don't need to be mentioned, 85 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:55.000 but eighteen and a half years of service in the 86 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:58.759 Navy over thirteen with the United States Marine Corps. I 87 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:02.800 am known as a devil, not a devil dog. So 88 00:05:04.079 --> 00:05:07.120 Hospital Corman serve along with the Marine Corps. They don't 89 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:10.439 have a medical department, so they borrow them from the 90 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:15.800 United States Navy. You know, Joe, when I look back through, 91 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:19.800 you know, over thirteen years now that Camp Hope has 92 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:24.800 had its doors open, we've probably had a higher percentage 93 00:05:25.000 --> 00:05:31.319 of Corman medics than any other job I can think of. 94 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:37.839 It's we've had a lot come through our doors. Yes, sir, 95 00:05:39.519 --> 00:05:44.959 we see the worst of what happens in combat. I've 96 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:47.839 been in paramedic since nineteen ninety two. I stopped serving 97 00:05:49.279 --> 00:05:54.319 in whatever state I'm in in twenty fourteen. But with 98 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:58.839 the service that I provided aid to marines that get hurt, 99 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:03.079 they do get hurt their first in, last out, and 100 00:06:03.759 --> 00:06:10.120 I see the worst gunshots, explosions. I must be a 101 00:06:10.160 --> 00:06:13.800 good teacher because my Marines who patched me up saved 102 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:17.399 my life when I got injured in combat. I got 103 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:20.879 blown up by a roadside bomb, very big one that 104 00:06:21.000 --> 00:06:22.560 made a twenty four foot crater. 105 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:24.759 And like I. 106 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:29.279 Said, I saw the worst what we have to do 107 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:35.439 with the spread of democracy throughout the world, and to 108 00:06:35.480 --> 00:06:39.839 protect our nation and its liberties and freedoms, I had 109 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:41.560 to put my life on the line and I do 110 00:06:41.720 --> 00:06:45.240 that for my fellow man, my fellow marine, because I 111 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:48.319 took an oath as a hospital corman, not only to 112 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:52.519 protect a constitution against foreign enemies foreign and domestic, but 113 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:56.319 I took an oath to protect my patient. And anytime 114 00:06:56.639 --> 00:06:59.279 a service member is injured, there has to. 115 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:00.720 Be somebody that give aight. 116 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:04.959 So they were after me pretty hot and heavy. It 117 00:07:05.079 --> 00:07:08.360 just so happens I took three steps away from the 118 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:12.160 humve and I found the ID that day with the 119 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:16.600 giant explosion and reminder, as we go through the course 120 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:18.480 of a show, we understand some of these things can 121 00:07:18.560 --> 00:07:19.519 be triggered. 122 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:21.759 For some who are listening. Let me ask you to 123 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:23.800 get out your phone. Put this number in your phone 124 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:28.000 eight seven seven seven one seven seventy eight seventy three. 125 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:29.160 That is our. 126 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:32.439 Combat Trauma Crisis line. You may never need it. You 127 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:35.240 may come across someone, however, that does need it. Please 128 00:07:35.240 --> 00:07:38.000 put the number in your phone eight seven seven seven 129 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:40.519 one seven seventy eight seventy three. Here's the thing you. 130 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:41.959 Need to know about that phone number. 131 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:45.000 When you call it, someone will answer it, and it 132 00:07:45.040 --> 00:07:48.120 will be a combat that a combat that will answer 133 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:50.160 the phone. Three hundred and sixty five days a year, 134 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:52.560 twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, eight 135 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:55.319 seven seven seven one, seven seventy eight seventy three. All Right, 136 00:07:55.319 --> 00:07:57.560 we've got to take a quick break and we back. 137 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:02.319 With more Roadhope Radio. M hm m m. 138 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:10.480 M. 139 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:22.720 All right, welcome back Road Dope Radio. Glad to have 140 00:08:22.759 --> 00:08:23.079 you along. 141 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:25.639 All right, Joe, So you're one of the older guys 142 00:08:25.639 --> 00:08:29.279 around camp, how does that make you feel? 143 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:34.639 You got to learn how to deal with the youngins. 144 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:38.840 Okay, this should be fun. 145 00:08:39.000 --> 00:08:39.200 Yeah. 146 00:08:39.799 --> 00:08:39.879 Uh. 147 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:46.200 The younger generations that are behind me, they have a 148 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:49.000 certain way of doing things, a certain way of talk, 149 00:08:49.240 --> 00:08:54.720 certain way of entitlement. Well, I was I'm very old school. 150 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:59.679 I respect my elders. I've always respect my elders. I've 151 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:03.600 always and raised that way by my mom and daddy 152 00:09:04.600 --> 00:09:08.679 and my grandparents. Filled in because my parents died and 153 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:13.240 I was forced to be an orphan. But the military 154 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:15.000 helped me grow up to be the man I am, 155 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:18.519 and the man I am is a man of my word. 156 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:24.480 I helped fellow mallonkind whatever they need, if I can 157 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:26.080 provide it, I know where to get it. 158 00:09:27.000 --> 00:09:28.120 That's what a doc does. 159 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:33.600 And the younger generation, they got a certain slight on 160 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:39.679 that they're they're a little different breeding. But I like 161 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.840 to say that us gray beards got gotta stick together. 162 00:09:44.480 --> 00:09:48.080 I a very money, many of us. And when you're 163 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:54.240 over fifty, you find those similarities in people. And Tyrone's 164 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:58.159 life story when he became my mentor, we have a 165 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:02.399 lot of similarities. And he's my brother from another mother. 166 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:06.399 And a lot of the young ones don't understand when 167 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:12.360 I give respect, I expect respect, and some people don't. 168 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:16.159 Aren't trained that way, aren't taught that way, to respect 169 00:10:16.240 --> 00:10:21.919 your elders and yes, sir, yes ma'am. No sir, no, ma'am. 170 00:10:22.159 --> 00:10:26.679 But I respect all and I understand that. And I 171 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:29.840 used to talk a lot when I first got the camp, but. 172 00:10:31.879 --> 00:10:35.519 I talked yeah. 173 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:41.240 But now it's like I've been taught that the Lord 174 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:44.240 has a hand over my mouth and hand on my shoulder. 175 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:49.000 Speak less and lessen more. You learn a lot more 176 00:10:49.240 --> 00:10:53.360 what a guy is struggling with by just listening to him. 177 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:53.559 What they have to say. 178 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:57.120 You know, give the opportunity of people to be honest 179 00:10:57.159 --> 00:11:00.399 with you. You know, I don't give up a lot 180 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:00.879 of advice. 181 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:01.919 I just got. 182 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:04.960 This is what worked for me, This is what helped me. 183 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:11.559 We're reminded of the selfish program. And I was told 184 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:15.519 by mister Tyrone to my left here, you got to 185 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:19.120 stop trying to help everybody else until you help yourself. 186 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:23.519 And I learned that the hard way, and I started listening, 187 00:11:23.919 --> 00:11:28.600 and I started helping myself, and I'll be daring. Joy 188 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:33.759 came back into my life. I am an ambassador of Christ. 189 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.759 My responsibility is to let Jesus Christ shine out of 190 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:44.639 me because He's my Lord and savior. I pray daily 191 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:47.320 on behalf of the brothers at the camp, on behalf 192 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:52.360 of the staff, that they get that extra power source 193 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:55.879 from the Holy Spirit, that they get what they need 194 00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:01.519 on Camp Hope property, because the Holy spirits, you know, 195 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:06.440 seven three sixty five twenty four hours a day. And 196 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:09.480 if I wake up from bad dream or something, I 197 00:12:09.559 --> 00:12:12.840 know who to go talk to. It's another combat veteran. 198 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:17.720 You know you mentioned you mentioned the younger generation. 199 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:20.759 So I'm gonna take a second and step or dip 200 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:24.080 into our mail bag real quick. This is this is 201 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:27.279 written from one of our our guys that came through. 202 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:29.279 I think it was about three and a half years ago, 203 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:33.080 and he wrote it this last Sunday. 204 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:35.960 So we could go today, So today's the day we look. 205 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:38.840 We took a reaffirmation of faith today at church by 206 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:42.919 getting baptized as a family. Randall, reader, you inspired this. 207 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:46.159 Thank you for sharing your journey. The kids took their 208 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:49.519 first step toward God. Me and future Missus wanted to 209 00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:53.120 renew our vows to God before saying them to each other. 210 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:56.759 Now we're on the way, our way to where my 211 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:00.720 vision of life took shape Camp Hope. I stood at 212 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:04.080 the cross out there many times. Let's see, I'm gonna 213 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:06.519 get this messed up here, So at the cross many times, 214 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:10.240 out there trying to see the life God had for me. 215 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:16.360 I had no possessions, no car, mountains of debt, but I. 216 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:17.679 Had a relationship with God. 217 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:21.039 Through that I gained a path to walk that hasn't 218 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:25.600 been easy, but so fulfilling. Things found and lost, along 219 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:30.639 with choices that always bore consequences. I've learned to surrender, accept, 220 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:35.039 and forgive all things taught to me there that have 221 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:39.120 continued fueling my passion for this amazing life I very 222 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:42.559 nearly gave away. By the end of this day, I'll 223 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:44.480 be married to the one I know God put in 224 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:47.759 my life and for better or worse. We'll ride our 225 00:13:47.799 --> 00:13:52.799 lives out together. Couldn't be happier, albeit a bit nervous, 226 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:57.399 how about that. I love hearing those stories from guys 227 00:13:57.399 --> 00:14:00.600 who come through the program, and you know, like anything 228 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:02.759 else I think you go through. When you're in the 229 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:07.240 middle of something, you don't really realize just it could 230 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:09.000 be how great it is or how awful it is. 231 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.639 But you give yourself a little space and you're able 232 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:14.240 to look back and you appreciate it so much more. 233 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:16.080 And so I think it's one of the reasons I 234 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:17.720 like hearing from some of the guys that have been 235 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:20.519 through for a little while and come back. Did have 236 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:22.919 a beautiful ceremony out at Camp Hope that last Sunday 237 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:26.240 night out by the Cross. A lot of things have 238 00:14:26.320 --> 00:14:30.440 happened at that cross, some good and some some rough 239 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:34.159 moments as well. I like to tell people, though, you know, 240 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:36.559 it's a it's a metal, it's made out of steel. 241 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:38.799 It's just a steal cross. It's nothing really beautiful about it. 242 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:41.679 It's just to steal cross. All it represents as obvious. 243 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:46.559 But at that cross, that cross has been I would 244 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:48.840 tell people, it's been yelled at, it's been cussed at, 245 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:53.759 it's been spit on, uh, but it also has become 246 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:58.679 a place for so many veterans to find some peace, 247 00:14:58.799 --> 00:15:04.480 some solitude, some quiet, some ability to reflect and to 248 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:08.639 listen and to receive. And so it's a it's it's 249 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:14.279 quite the place. And when I when I tell people that, 250 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:16.399 I always kind of look at me like I said. 251 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:17.440 No, no, no, don't worry about it. 252 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:22.840 God's shoulders are big enough to handle these guys cussing 253 00:15:22.879 --> 00:15:26.039 him out. He's gonna be okay with it. And his 254 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:30.559 mercy's never ending. Read the song, his mercy never fails. 255 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:32.679 Over and over and over again, we're reading his mercy 256 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:33.240 never fails. 257 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:37.039 So he's big enough. So why did you. 258 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:37.799 Join the navy? 259 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:39.279 What was what? What drove that? 260 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:48.600 Every male figure, including my father, served in some servers. 261 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:55.279 I later found out that his sister, who married Bob 262 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:59.799 or Robert, my uncle Bob, was a naval officer, but 263 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:02.440 my father was on the US Enterprise. 264 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:07.960 He was a nuclear machinist mate he was radiated. 265 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:11.200 He was in the hospital for two months. I knew 266 00:16:11.200 --> 00:16:14.080 at age eight that I was going in the Navy. 267 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:18.720 It was just a forbearance because of everybody in every 268 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:22.240 male figure in my family has served in one way 269 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:26.440 or another, So at age eight, I knew I'm going 270 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:29.840 in the Navy, and I kept saying that growing up. Well, 271 00:16:29.879 --> 00:16:32.720 my dad died when I was eleven, he was thirty 272 00:16:32.720 --> 00:16:36.759 five years old because of lung cancer. I as a 273 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:40.159 hospital gorman. Later on, when I joined the Navy got 274 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:43.759 to be a hospital corman. I tracked down his medical records, 275 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:46.440 found out that he spent two months in the hospital 276 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:56.879 in Italy at the Naval Hospital, and he subsequently retired medically. 277 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:00.000 And that's what ultimately happened to me. I retired from 278 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:05.480 military because you know, my bomb blessed my combat injuries. 279 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:09.000 But I found out more about my dad from those 280 00:17:09.079 --> 00:17:12.240 records that you know, he never complained about it. 281 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:14.480 He never complained about his service. 282 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:19.400 He kept his patches, you know, I used to have them. 283 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:22.880 He taught me the night before he died. He's like, 284 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:25.880 I need to see my kids. I want my son here, 285 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:28.720 and that conversation I've never forgotten. 286 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:30.200 He told me. 287 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:33.359 He's like, boy, you're the man in the house now. 288 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:38.039 And I wasn't too friendly because my mom was still 289 00:17:38.079 --> 00:17:41.000 young and I didn't understand it until I was more 290 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:43.960 mature that she had to date, you know, she had 291 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.880 to date these other these other gentlemen. She married one 292 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:52.440 of them that that I struggled with, because any man 293 00:17:52.480 --> 00:17:55.559 that came into my house, in the house I was 294 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:56.160 growing up in. 295 00:17:56.799 --> 00:17:58.599 We'll catch up on that. Okay, we're gonna take a 296 00:17:58.640 --> 00:18:00.480 quick break. It's a hard stop here the news on 297 00:18:00.519 --> 00:18:03.119 those on nine point fifty. We'll take that quick news 298 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:05.039 break and we'll be back with more Road Hope Radio 299 00:18:05.079 --> 00:18:24.759 in just a moment, and we welcome you back. 300 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:25.519 Glad to have you along. 301 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:28.559 All right, Joey caught you up in the middle of 302 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:29.640 the story, so keep going. 303 00:18:31.160 --> 00:18:35.720 I wasn't very likable, no gentlemen, no, no, no, there's no. 304 00:18:35.680 --> 00:18:36.920 Way that's possible. 305 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:42.240 I did not see or I wasn't mature enough to 306 00:18:42.279 --> 00:18:43.680 realize that my mom was lonely. 307 00:18:43.799 --> 00:18:45.279 She lost the love of her life. 308 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:49.599 She had a date, and me, being the man of 309 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:51.920 the house that I thought I was, I was not 310 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:56.359 enjoyable to be around because I was growing up. I 311 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.839 was a teenager and I was trying to date girls too, 312 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:05.920 and I didn't want anybody interfering with my mom. And 313 00:19:05.960 --> 00:19:09.319 I was very adamant about that. And I wasn't very 314 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:14.079 likable with the activities that I caused their vehicles. So 315 00:19:15.440 --> 00:19:19.480 they ultimately left at some of them because of me. 316 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:24.839 But I've just protected my mom. So all right, So 317 00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:29.559 you join the Navy at age eighteen, two weeks after 318 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:33.240 I graduated high school? And what year was at nineteen 319 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:35.759 eighty six? Eighty six in the Navy? Eighteen and a 320 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:40.519 half years, son, Yes, sir, breaking service for five years. 321 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:43.240 How many deployments you mentioned? 322 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:43.440 Three? 323 00:19:43.599 --> 00:19:43.799 Three? 324 00:19:44.240 --> 00:19:49.720 Okay, three combat tours. I've deployed to the Virgin Islands. 325 00:19:49.799 --> 00:19:54.440 We were doing drug ops, helping out the locals on 326 00:19:54.519 --> 00:19:58.839 the Virgin Islands. There's a lot of islands that are 327 00:19:58.920 --> 00:20:01.759 kind of are frifty for states, right, you know, But 328 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:09.119 America's present there. We own the seas, we protect the seas. 329 00:20:10.799 --> 00:20:15.160 Now I've gone through like three different motivational you know, 330 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:17.640 it's not just a job. It's an adventure, you know. 331 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:23.319 Now they're saying it's America's Navy. But the Navy's one 332 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:26.160 of the oldest. We're a month older than the United 333 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:31.240 States Marine Corps seventeen seventy five. The Army's the oldest, 334 00:20:31.559 --> 00:20:34.200 their two hundred and fifty years. We're making it up there. 335 00:20:34.519 --> 00:20:39.519 But the service has always been there. When I raised 336 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:41.440 my right hand, I knew what I was doing. 337 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:43.000 I knew what it entailed. 338 00:20:43.559 --> 00:20:48.839 I was giving up certain freedoms. But the routine, the structure, 339 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:52.200 the chain of command taught me how to be a 340 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.839 good man. I'm matured in in my service. My first 341 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:01.039 four years, the USA Stark was hit by an exercise 342 00:21:01.079 --> 00:21:05.359 missile from an Iraqi warplane. At nineteen years old, I went. 343 00:21:05.680 --> 00:21:09.119 I raised my hand again. They needed volunteers, and I 344 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:10.880 went over and fought fires for three and. 345 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:12.559 A half days on a ship. 346 00:21:12.599 --> 00:21:15.960 I had no idea where any anything was. I just 347 00:21:16.039 --> 00:21:19.599 knew we were mutual aid. Like in the civilian fire 348 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:23.799 fighting world, when a big fire happens, either a house 349 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:29.599 fire or building fire, commercial property, you called for mutual aid, 350 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:32.799 you called for extra people. So they called our ship 351 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:36.839 and we got underway with just the the duty crew, 352 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:40.119 which is a skeleton crew. We manned the ship, cut 353 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:42.200 everything away from it, and we took off. 354 00:21:43.319 --> 00:21:44.559 I was not on duty. 355 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:47.599 I said I was tired and I didn't want to 356 00:21:47.640 --> 00:21:51.319 go out and spend any more money. But I stayed 357 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:54.960 on the ship, and thank god I did, because I 358 00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:58.839 knew the damage controlment. I knew the whole technicians. They 359 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:00.759 were the first ones to go over to help fight 360 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:05.119 fires when they asked for volunteers at like three thirty 361 00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:07.240 four o'clock in the morning. My hand went up, and 362 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:10.200 I'm like, why am I doing that? You know what why? 363 00:22:10.880 --> 00:22:14.160 I didn't mean raise my hand, but I went over 364 00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:16.640 to a ship. I had no idea where anything was. 365 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:19.599 You go on a small boat. You go over to 366 00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:23.279 the ship, and with the swelling of the of the water, 367 00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:26.279 the waves of the water, you have to time it 368 00:22:27.039 --> 00:22:30.039 to jump up and grab the ladder. I lost my 369 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:33.720 firefighting boot, so I climbed the ladder with one boot on, 370 00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:36.680 and I got to the deck of the ship, and 371 00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:40.000 it was listing to the starboard side, which is the 372 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:44.960 right side twenty seven degrees, because it was on fire. 373 00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:47.920 It had been hit, it'd been damaged. All the decks 374 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:53.119 were open. Those weren't my first deceased sailors I've ever saw. 375 00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:56.640 That was the first trauma besides my dad's death, that 376 00:22:56.720 --> 00:23:01.079 I'd ever witnessed. I fought for three and a half 377 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:04.960 days because I knew this had to be done. There's 378 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.640 only one one direction for the ship to go when 379 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:10.240 it's on fire. And that's down, and we weren't going 380 00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:14.680 to lose that shit. And I busted my butt to 381 00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:19.799 help give aid. I even doctored the executive officers wounds 382 00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:26.960 from shrapnel. I recovered the deceased. You know, I saw 383 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:31.559 all that, and it stuck with me. I knew when 384 00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:34.119 I was I got out a month before a desert 385 00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:37.240 storm started, and I kept calling back and calling back, 386 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:40.480 and finally they're like, well, we need you, we'll call you. 387 00:23:40.480 --> 00:23:42.799 You know, stop calling us, stop bugging us. 388 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:43.160 You know. 389 00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:46.960 But I was involved in Desert Shield where we protected 390 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:50.960 the tankers. We were a tanker escort servers and uh 391 00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:56.079 when when those tankers wouldn't listen to our commands, they'd 392 00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:58.640 fire an attention, get her over the boy the ship 393 00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:00.920 and they listened because we got a big gun on 394 00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:06.279 a guided missile destroyer, but on a strike team that 395 00:24:07.039 --> 00:24:09.759 they taught me how to shoot a forty five and 396 00:24:09.880 --> 00:24:15.000 a moss bird shotgun. We took over ships and we 397 00:24:15.119 --> 00:24:18.839 told them where we wanted them to go, because oil 398 00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:23.759 is a commodity, it's a cash product, and we protected 399 00:24:23.799 --> 00:24:27.480 those lanes. And the Navy continues to protect the seas 400 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:30.839 in any way, shape or form now coach guard's a 401 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:33.559