WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.160 --> 00:00:05.799 Meaning a light Man like this man letting butterfly flapping 2 00:00:05.879 --> 00:00:07.960 and wing big down in a forest. Man, it gonna 3 00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:10.839 cause the tree fall, letting five thousand miles away. 4 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:12.919 Man, nobody seen, nobody else. 5 00:00:17.519 --> 00:00:17.679 See. 6 00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:18.600 You don't need no. 7 00:00:18.879 --> 00:00:22.559 Man like you followed another story and you got back 8 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:24.280 to flect that win. 9 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:26.280 Man, go back to dag on the panela. 10 00:00:26.359 --> 00:00:36.359 Man, you don't matter, man, I don't anyway? All right, 11 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:38.399 Andrew Edwards, Welcome back to the Jay Burden Show. How 12 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:38.920 you doing, man? 13 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:41.920 Good, Good to be with you again, sir. 14 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:49.000 Yeah, Man, I'm really excited to have this conversation because 15 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:52.799 through our last couple movie reviews and then also some 16 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:55.439 things I've seen on the sign and just enjoyed, right, 17 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:57.799 didn't have to make them into a podcast. I've been 18 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:01.320 going through a list of maybe twelve or fifteen movies 19 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:04.719 you sent me a couple months ago, and most of 20 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:07.840 them i'd heard of, maybe you've seen them, maybe had 21 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:12.359 heard them mentioned before. There's one title in that list 22 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:15.560 that I had never heard of at all. It's a 23 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:18.000 movie that we're going to talk about, Red Rock West, 24 00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:24.359 and I enjoyed this film immensely. I've seen very few 25 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:28.519 things like it. It's honestly, surprisingly obscure. It didn't do 26 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:35.200 particularly well. I think it lost money. And despite that fact, 27 00:01:35.239 --> 00:01:39.319 it's a very good movie with a honestly amazing cast. 28 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:42.799 And so before we started recording, you mentioned how you 29 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:45.599 came across it. Obviously I got it from your recommendation. 30 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:48.519 But before we get into it, I just want to say, 31 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:52.480 this is a great movie. This is a movie where 32 00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:55.959 I won't say it having it spoiled ruins it, but 33 00:01:56.719 --> 00:02:00.680 you should go into this movie blind. You can find 34 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:02.439 it on Amazon. It's like three bucks to rent it. 35 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:06.159 I have recommended it to personal friends, people not on 36 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:09.960 the internet and gotten universally positive reviews. Most people say 37 00:02:09.960 --> 00:02:12.000 the exact same thing. How have I never heard of 38 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:14.759 this before? And that was awesome? So all I will say, 39 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:17.520 if you don't want to have it spoiled, go watch it. 40 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:20.080 It's like ninety minutes, not hard to find, so Red 41 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.520 Rock Quest good movie. But Andrew, I'm curious, right, how 42 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:25.439 how do you find out about this flick? 43 00:02:26.240 --> 00:02:26.599 Yeah? 44 00:02:26.680 --> 00:02:30.719 So ninety three right is when it comes out. I'm 45 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:35.560 pretty sure that I saw it, probably rented it based 46 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:43.159 on the cast, and then forgot about it until many 47 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:46.599 many I don't know, probably ten years later it showed 48 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:50.479 up in when I did finally go back to college, 49 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:54.879 I took a minor in film and I took this 50 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:58.080 probably one of the best classes I ever took. Was 51 00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:02.919 it's just called film noir. So it was you know, 52 00:03:03.319 --> 00:03:10.840 orson Wells, Chinatown. It was the whole run through from 53 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:14.520 a quasi academic level. And then Red Rock West was 54 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:21.080 in there. And that professor, you know, every once in 55 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:24.120 a while, even in college, you get like a professor 56 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:28.479 that you you can take from who's actually useful or. 57 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:31.280 Maybe even worthy of respect. At least in my. 58 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:36.960 Day, they would occasionally show up. And he pointed, he 59 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:40.319 he kind of went through the movie within the you know, 60 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:44.319 the context we were studying. And and again I should 61 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:48.560 say like this was not a class that was all DEI. 62 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:51.800 It was pretty much about narrative, it was about history, 63 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:56.120 and it was about the actual genre of noir. And 64 00:03:56.199 --> 00:04:01.719 so for our audience, I mean that's maybe the first 65 00:04:02.159 --> 00:04:03.199 thing to understand. 66 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:03.719 Is it. 67 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:09.439 In all possible technical ways, it's a noir film, but 68 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:14.400 it is set in a rural environment. It's set what 69 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:18.000 in like small town Wyoming, right, They never I'm not well, 70 00:04:18.040 --> 00:04:20.480 I guess it's Red Rock. Maybe that's like a fictional 71 00:04:21.120 --> 00:04:26.759 a little town out there by Thermopolis or Dubois or whatever. 72 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:32.000 But yeah, that's how I heard of it. And I mean, 73 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:35.160 you anybody who likes film, you watch this movie and 74 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:38.000 it's like, yeah, five for me anyway, it's like five 75 00:04:38.000 --> 00:04:40.199 out of five. So I've never forgotten it. And then 76 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:43.199 when you asked, you know, for some recommendations, I'm not 77 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:46.560 sure why, because there's thousands of these recommendations floating around 78 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:50.319 in my mind, but yeah, it just popped out, and 79 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:52.920 I'm gratified to hear that you've recommended it. And you know, 80 00:04:53.000 --> 00:04:56.240 we're not alone that this is. This is a great 81 00:04:56.319 --> 00:05:01.160 little movie. Fantastic cast and it it's great in a 82 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:03.439 couple different ways that I'll kick it back to you. 83 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:05.079 I'm sure we'll get into them. 84 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:13.319 Yeah, it's really The cast is one of the movie's 85 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:16.240 strongest parts. The soundtrack is quite good. It's a relatively 86 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:20.439 sparse soundtrack. Most of the music except for really what 87 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:22.639 you hear at the end is all through basically car 88 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:25.439 stereos or in bars or in a bar. I guess 89 00:05:25.959 --> 00:05:30.759 you know, it's sort of naturalistically done. And the cast 90 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:35.319 in this is Look, when I say some of these actors, 91 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:39.639 you will have preconceived notions. So obviously leading man is 92 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:42.040 Nick Cage. This is still when Nick Cage was a 93 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:45.079 real actor. He's a working actor. Now he kind of 94 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:48.439 just apparently signs up for anything. But this is a 95 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:55.759 very restrained Nick Cage performance. There's exactly one line where 96 00:05:55.800 --> 00:05:59.160 you get the Nick Cage freak out. This is around 97 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:01.240 the time that he was in Raising Arizona, I believe, 98 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:04.560 slightly before. I can't remember off the top of my head, 99 00:06:04.800 --> 00:06:06.920 but like he is an Academy Award winning actor at 100 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:09.120 this stage, and he does quite well in it. So 101 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:16.759 Nick Cage plays a marine, former marine Michael Williams, discharged 102 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:19.639 from the Marine Corps because he has an injury. 103 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:20.079 Right. 104 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:24.759 We don't really understand how he got this, but he's 105 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:28.519 in dire straits, right. He needs a job, and in fact, 106 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:31.839 the opening is him driving out in this awesome late 107 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:38.680 sixties Cadillac out to an oil drilling site and we 108 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:43.319 find out one of his buddies is working there, sort 109 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:45.759 of trying to get him a job, right, So he 110 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:50.360 fills out his application and the next thing we see 111 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:53.879 is Nick Cage standing upside this trailer and the boss 112 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:58.319 is yelling at Michael. Williams's friend comes out the door 113 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:00.759 and says, why do you tell him about your life? 114 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:03.920 And Williams says they would have found out anyway. I 115 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:06.839 don't like to lie. And we find out that characteristic 116 00:07:06.879 --> 00:07:08.839 of him, right, that he has a certain amount of character, 117 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.160 a certain amount of honesty, And this is something that 118 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:14.600 becomes important later in the film. His friend basically says, well, 119 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:16.439 at the very least, can I spot you some money? 120 00:07:16.959 --> 00:07:20.240 Despite the fact that we've established that Williams is down 121 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:23.279 to very little money, he's pretty much almost out five 122 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:25.680 dollars in his wallet. He says, you know what, No, 123 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:29.720 I don't need it. So he's driving back into this town, 124 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:32.360 red Rock. And as far as I understand that, there 125 00:07:32.399 --> 00:07:34.680 is no town of Red Rock, there is a like 126 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:38.399 a national park or something or a site there named 127 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:41.199 Red Rock, but it's it's a fictionalized kind of two 128 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:44.399 street town right in the middle of nowhere. And as 129 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:47.720 he's driving in, it's a little scene, but he stops 130 00:07:47.720 --> 00:07:50.040 at this gas station, and this is an important moment 131 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:54.480 of characterization because he walks in to a seemingly unattended 132 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:58.920 gas station and he's calling around, you know, looking for 133 00:07:59.480 --> 00:08:02.720 you the attention. And when he goes behind the counter, 134 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:06.560 he notices the cash strawers open, nobody here, a lot 135 00:08:06.600 --> 00:08:09.600 of money sitting there, and you know, a revolver next 136 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:13.360 to it, and he looks at it for a moment decides, 137 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:16.959 you know what, I'm not gonna steal, and then, you know, 138 00:08:17.040 --> 00:08:20.319 half a beat later, the guy walks out and basically says, 139 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.560 if you're looking for work, in the nearest town is 140 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:27.680 red Rock. So Williams heads into Red Rock, and this 141 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:31.759 is where our plot kicks off. So he drives in, 142 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:37.480 starts up at this bar, and the bartender, who is 143 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:42.799 played by JT. Walsh, who you may know from Sling 144 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:46.960 Blade that he was in Nixon and then maybe a 145 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:50.600 few good men. I think that sounds right, so kind 146 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:55.919 of a character actor. He's the bartender. And while he's there, 147 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:59.000 he looks outside and he notices that Nick cage car 148 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:03.399 has a tech his license plate on it, and he says, 149 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:08.960 you know, well, are you Lyle from Dallas? And Nick 150 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:11.159 Cage sort of looks around. He says, well, I have 151 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:14.840 a job for you, and so Nick Cage realizes, I 152 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:19.840 guess he's playing Lyle from Dallas. When he gets into 153 00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:22.480 the back room and they shut down the bar, it's 154 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:28.480 revealed that this bartender it's expecting a hitman, right, someone 155 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:32.639 to kill his wife, and he's offering five thousand dollars 156 00:09:32.919 --> 00:09:37.759 and then another five thousand when it's completed. So obviously 157 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:39.919 Nick Cage is in sort of a predicament. His money 158 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:45.960 problems seemingly solved, but he's been involved in this plot, 159 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:48.639 so he sort of agrees to do it, and he 160 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:54.840 heads out to see JT. Walsh's wife, who's played by 161 00:09:55.159 --> 00:09:59.320 Laura Flynn Boyle, who's probably best known for I think 162 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:02.919 she was in She's In Twin Peaks and then also 163 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:06.399 the classic comedy Wan's World and then let's be honest, 164 00:10:06.399 --> 00:10:09.840 not much else after that. So as he's observing her, 165 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:15.159 he sees this man's wife riding a horse round in 166 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:18.720 the middle of nowhere, and she goes up to this 167 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:22.080 horse trailer where or this is sorry, this trailer where 168 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:24.720 one of the ranch hands is. They go in together, 169 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:28.799 the assumption obviously being they're having an affair. This is 170 00:10:28.840 --> 00:10:32.039 why you know he wants to kill his wife. So 171 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:36.039 he confronts her, right he sneaks into her house, and 172 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:40.240 he basically says, look, your husband wants me to kill you. 173 00:10:40.960 --> 00:10:45.159 I'm not actually a hit man, so what are we 174 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:47.519 gonna do? And she says, you know what, fine, I'll 175 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:51.000 double your money get out of town. So at this point, 176 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:54.240 Mike Williams Nickcage, it's like, awesome, this is great. You know, 177 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:58.960 I stole technically fifteen thousand dollars from two horrible people whatever. 178 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:02.240 So he takes his money and he decided he's going 179 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:04.120 to get out of town and I'll kick it back 180 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:05.679 to you Andy. Once we get through this kind of 181 00:11:05.679 --> 00:11:07.600 inciting plot, because this is really when it sort of 182 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:10.879 picks up. Sure, but as he's driving out of town, 183 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:14.480 we have this great scene where he can finally go 184 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:16.679 to the gas station, you know, fill up on gas, 185 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:20.039 has a bunch of wonderbread, a bunch of beers in 186 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:22.519 the and the guy's like, oh, really, you're gonna spend 187 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:24.519 one hundred and twenty dollars on all this and he's like, 188 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:27.240 oh whatever, who cares because he's got fifteen grand in 189 00:11:27.320 --> 00:11:31.720 cash right for defrauding these people. But as he's headed 190 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:36.919 out of town, we see a car stopped on the 191 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:40.519 side of the road and Nick Cage sort of moves 192 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:43.240 to get around him, but the guy who's by this 193 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.120 car stopped in the middle road basically jumps out in 194 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:48.519 front of the car and Nick Cage hits him and 195 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:53.279 he goes up over the whole car, obviously injured. And 196 00:11:53.320 --> 00:11:55.919 we see another love with these kind of moments where 197 00:11:56.320 --> 00:11:58.320 Cage basically looks in the mirror and you can sort 198 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:00.720 of see him going through the like there's nobody around. 199 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:04.120 I can just leave, leave with my money and I'll 200 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:07.039 be fine, you know what. He can't do it. So 201 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:12.240 he takes this guy back to the hospital and goes 202 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:16.159 in brings him into the doctor. We see this sort 203 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:19.759 of comedic moment, and this movie is not a comedy, 204 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:22.240 but it is quite funny something we will mention multiple 205 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.720 times between him and the secretary at the front, you know, 206 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:29.000 who's trying to ask him all of these very specific 207 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:31.159 questions while he is just worried about the man that 208 00:12:31.240 --> 00:12:32.480 he may or may not have killed. 209 00:12:32.840 --> 00:12:33.080 Right. 210 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:36.399 So point is this is where this is sort of 211 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:39.399 the inciting incident. This is what sets the plot in motion, 212 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:42.159 and so Andy, I'll kick it back to you before 213 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:43.960 we get into the kind of plot from there on. 214 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:49.519 Yes, a few things to note even up to there 215 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:58.639 with respect to this, like rural noir, which I don't 216 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:01.320 think had been done great deal. There are a few 217 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:05.840 other examples that, you know, come to mind my mind, 218 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:12.159 like Blood Simple, which was the Cohen Brothers first movie 219 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:16.360 that's that's pretty rural and actually shares some of the 220 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:21.039 kind of like narrative DNA with this movie, insofar as 221 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:26.799 there's there's this kind of there's a bar and there's 222 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:31.240 an affair, and you know, there's cowboy boots. But this 223 00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:37.960 is distinctly like noir sorts of plot elements and behavior 224 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.039 what I wanted to or what what what I thought 225 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:44.960 of as we're kind of going through this inciting scene. 226 00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:52.799 From the technical level, it's we're switching into like this 227 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:57.080 classic nor thing of going from what you know into 228 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.559 what you don't know you know, and this is often 229 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:04.240 done symbolically or visually with you know, you have your 230 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:06.759 your blinds over there next to you, Jay, it's like 231 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:11.559 that slot that slotted light this place where like light 232 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:16.240 falls into shadow, which may seem like, you know, sort 233 00:14:16.279 --> 00:14:21.799 of a frivolous thing, but I think that it's essential, 234 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:24.559 you know, it's part of the medium, Like it's it's 235 00:14:24.559 --> 00:14:28.159 a visual medium and it works this way. So right 236 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.720 when we get this, I mean it's very it's like 237 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:35.919 you said, it's it's it's it's not specifically funny, but 238 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:37.080 it is hilarious. 239 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:38.440 See, And it's he's. 240 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:42.120 Got he's got like three groceries, three bags of groceries, 241 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:47.200 and it's all just this terrible junk food. And but 242 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:50.759 you can you feel like totally, I feel bonded with 243 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:53.480 that guy, like, yeah, I have fifteen grand I'm loading up, 244 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:57.240 I'm getting my ass is out of town. This crazy 245 00:14:57.279 --> 00:15:01.440 thing that I just touched on, and man, it's not 246 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:04.480 even like you know, twenty minutes down the road and 247 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:09.279 all of a sudden, the storm comes and so there's 248 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:14.879 a lot of you know, rain falling. Visual conditions are obscured. 249 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:18.080 And this is where for me that noir thing kicks in. 250 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:21.919 Like you thought everything was going one way, but all 251 00:15:21.960 --> 00:15:28.519 of a sudden we should mention too. The director, I 252 00:15:28.519 --> 00:15:34.279 I what is his name, Dall, I think, right, So 253 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:38.360 this guy writes the script with his brother. I think 254 00:15:38.399 --> 00:15:42.000 he had one other movie before this one, which was 255 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:43.559 maybe not a big hit. 256 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:47.360 He goes on to do a couple of. 257 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:49.960 I think he did the last seduction, Right, Yeah. 258 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:52.279 I think you're right, which is I have not seen 259 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:54.919 but as apparently kind of a hit and he do 260 00:15:55.120 --> 00:16:00.759 he gets there's one called Kill Me Again, which was 261 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:07.360 also like at the time, critically acclaimed, like understood, man, 262 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:09.639 this doll guy is kind of going somewhere. He's got 263 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:12.480 you know, he's a Val Kilmer's in that one. He's 264 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:16.879 got Nick Cage here and he was sort of, you know, 265 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:20.039 the man of the moment there for a split second. 266 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:23.240 But something in his career must have happened where he 267 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:27.600 sort of goes under away from you know, the radar, 268 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:30.879 and he but he pops up later evidently I hadn't 269 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:34.480 actually tracked him until we decided to do this episode, 270 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:37.440 and he's he's alive, and he's doing tons of work, 271 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:42.600 I apparently in television, so that television may be very good. 272 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:45.039 I wouldn't know, but I just wanted to bring him 273 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:49.320 up to say this is for what for whatever you 274 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:53.360 know his other flops may be. I mean, he absolutely 275 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:58.399 nails every aspect of and it's is it as good 276 00:16:58.440 --> 00:17:00.720 as the Cohens? I mean, this one I think is 277 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:05.640 for sure. His management of all of the elements, from 278 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:09.720 the acting to the visual and I wanted to, you know, 279 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:14.279 ask you. I think it pops out when people watch it. 280 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:18.559 Like the plot is so good in terms of just 281 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:23.559 it's delivering what you want, you know, it's holding back 282 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:26.119 on the reveals like you don't necessarily I think if 283 00:17:26.119 --> 00:17:28.799 you're going to continue with them, you know, the kind 284 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:33.480 of timeline explication. We're about to find out who ah 285 00:17:33.920 --> 00:17:38.240 who the bartender really is, right, and that's like one 286 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:41.119 of these reveals. So that's that point in the movie. 287 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:45.960 Like you say, this inciting instant, it immediately just sort 288 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:52.519 of begins to mount. He's he's got this money, we 289 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:56.279 know people are hunting him. Now his moral conundrum has 290 00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:00.400 kicked in and he's he's done the right thing. Taken 291 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:05.359 this this dude back to the hospital, and then I'll 292 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:07.200 take it back to you, right, because that's when the 293 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:07.920 cops show up. 294 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:11.960 Well, and there's one thing I forgot and this becomes 295 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:14.640 relevant later but also sort of shows us, you know, 296 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:18.440 Nick Cage's moral code in this is that he does 297 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:21.319 one more thing I forgot about before he skips town. 298 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:25.000 He sends an anonymous letter right to the shriff. Yeah, 299 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:27.880 basically says, you know, this guy is trying to kill 300 00:18:27.880 --> 00:18:31.880 his wife. The hitman hasn't shown up yet. Look into it. 301 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:34.880 This is not a joke, right, So he feels that, 302 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:37.880 you know what, I didn't do it. I've taken the money. 303 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:40.400 At the very least, I want to let the authorities 304 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:42.920 know so that this, you know, this woman isn't murdered. 305 00:18:44.519 --> 00:18:49.200 So this is the point where if you are interested 306 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:52.240 in watching this film, leave and go watch it right where. 307 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:54.880 There's no way to avoid spoiling it. Past this point. 308 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:57.559 You should. This is a good movie. It's worth your time. 309 00:18:58.440 --> 00:19:01.039 So while he's there, of course, you know that the 310 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:06.920 doctor is understandably you know, upset, you know. And as 311 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:09.079 Nick Cage sort of looks in the back he hears 312 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:12.759 that this man is alive. He goes to leave, right, 313 00:19:12.799 --> 00:19:14.519 He's basically like, all right, you know, I gotta I 314 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:17.039 really got to skip town. I gotta get out of here, like, 315 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:21.400 let's leave. And as he does it, sheriff and two 316 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:24.799 deputies show up, and it is revealed the sheriff and 317 00:19:24.839 --> 00:19:28.200 the bartender are one and the same. Right, the guy 318 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:30.240 who owns the bar who tried to kill his wife 319 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.920 is also the sheriff. So he goes to take him 320 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:38.640 to jail in a very cool Ford Bronco. This is 321 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:43.599 actually a pretty great car movie. It's not like a 322 00:19:43.640 --> 00:19:46.000 focus of it per se, but if you're interested in, 323 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:48.480 you know, cool old vehicles, there's a lot of them 324 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:52.640 to be had. But point is and as they they 325 00:19:52.680 --> 00:19:55.839 drive out of the parking lot, Ryle basically says like, 326 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:58.680 what are you doing? What happened? And he says, you 327 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:01.799 know what, I'm so sorry, Mary, I'm not your guy. 328 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:06.240 I'm not the hit man. The money's in my car, 329 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:10.119 you just take it, leave me. And this all goes 330 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:14.480 away and he's having none of it, and we have 331 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:16.920 this moment where he sort of jerks off the road 332 00:20:17.440 --> 00:20:19.119 and we it's sort of up in the air and 333 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:22.559 is he gonna let him run? And what happens is 334 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:25.440 he throws in the keys to the handcuffs and so 335 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:28.960 Nick Cage, you know, unclasps himself from the handcuffs. But 336 00:20:29.000 --> 00:20:32.119 what we see is basically the Sheriff's got a gun 337 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:34.759 and he's sort of trying to fake an escape so 338 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:38.359 that he can kill this guy present it as you know, 339 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:42.920 stopping and escaped felon and wrap up loose ends that way, 340 00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:47.279 but Nick Cage gets away right, he smashes his hand 341 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:50.839 in the door. They're running through the woods. Nick Cage 342 00:20:50.839 --> 00:20:53.839 has grabbed his revolver makes you know, shoots a few 343 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:56.960 potshots back at him. The other guy's got a you know, 344 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:00.359 an old Winchester seven model seven hundred, just shoting at 345 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:02.559 him through the woods. You know, they're sort of stumbling. 346 00:21:02.799 --> 00:21:05.799 We see the reemergence of Cage's bad leg. 347 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:06.319 Right. 348 00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:08.799 He's desperately trying to run away as his leg is 349 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:12.839 sort of giving out, and as the two of them are, 350 00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:16.519 you know, Cage is getting more distance, he sort of 351 00:21:16.799 --> 00:21:19.920 falls down this embankment back into the road and he's 352 00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:20.799 nearly hit. 353 00:21:21.519 --> 00:21:21.680 Right. 354 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:24.880 There's this again sort of comedic moment where we see 355 00:21:24.920 --> 00:21:27.519 the bumper of the car come up right to his 356 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:30.440 face as he's sort of laying on the ground and 357 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:36.559 out of the car steps easily the best character in 358 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:39.759 this movie played by by Dennis Hopper. Right, And we 359 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:44.559 don't know Dennis Hopper's name yet, right, but he's this 360 00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:47.160 sort of gregarious, you know, southern guy. 361 00:21:47.480 --> 00:21:47.640 Right. 362 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:50.519 He's driving a cool I believe it a black Buick, Right, 363 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:55.119 another really cool car. Listening to I think Johnny Cash 364 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:57.799 at the time. You've got a black cowboy hat, and 365 00:21:57.839 --> 00:22:01.319 he sort of, you know, picks Cage up. You know, 366 00:22:01.400 --> 00:22:04.640 He's basically says, like, you're you're lucky I was paying 367 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:06.680 attention or I would be picking your brains out of 368 00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:10.200 my radiator. And he has this like incredible kind of 369 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:13.000 unhinged charisma, and he says, you know what, I got 370 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:15.880 to drive you back. Cage is trying to get some 371 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:17.759 sort of excuse why he doesn't want to go back 372 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:22.319 into town, but this character by the Hopper, he insists, right. 373 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:24.440 He basically says, now, I'll take you into town, and 374 00:22:24.480 --> 00:22:29.880 while they're driving in, it's revealed they're both former Marines, 375 00:22:30.559 --> 00:22:37.240 that this character is a former Force recon marine. Cage was, 376 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:42.200 we find out in this conversation in Vietnam and a 377 00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:44.720 very prominent I believe this is a real event. I 378 00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:47.599 was not familiar with it. In case where an army 379 00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:49.720 building was hit by a large explosive. Two hundred and 380 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:51.920 seventy people died. And so we have this sort of 381 00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:54.599 back and forth where, you know, Hopper says, oh, you know, 382 00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:57.279 you're really lucky, and Cage basically says like, yeah, it 383 00:22:57.279 --> 00:22:59.480 doesn't quite feel like it, you know, because he obviously 384 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:05.519 has a severely compromised leg. So this new character won't 385 00:23:05.599 --> 00:23:10.200 let Cage go without buying him a drink, and they're 386 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:14.240 right back at this same bar in Red Rock. This 387 00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:17.079 is part of what makes this movie kind of comedic 388 00:23:17.720 --> 00:23:20.799 is that no matter how desperately people are trying to 389 00:23:20.839 --> 00:23:23.799 get away from Red Rock, they end up basically back 390 00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:28.240 in this same bar, just due to increasingly absurd events. 391 00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:33.240 So now Cage is obviously freaking out because he's just 392 00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:36.000 escaped from the sheriff and now he's gone back to 393 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:40.079 his bar. There's another guy working at it, so you know, 394 00:23:40.599 --> 00:23:43.839 his character buys him a drink and we find out 395 00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:47.920 that this is Lyle from Texas. He has met the 396 00:23:47.960 --> 00:23:53.000 same hit man he was previously impersonating, and so when 397 00:23:53.079 --> 00:23:54.920 Lyle comes up to the bar, he basic says, hey, 398 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:57.480 can you call the owner? And at this point Cage 399 00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:59.799 is realizing like, oh no, this is not good. I 400 00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:03.480 got to get out. So he goes to the bathroom 401 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:06.960