WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.480 --> 00:00:06.879 Dark Destinations may be end Times Night's Preacher. 2 00:00:07.440 --> 00:00:09.919 Why would a few more casually struggle. 3 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:10.919 Me because of their blood? 4 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:12.199 Will join yours? 5 00:00:12.439 --> 00:00:14.320 A radio drama anthology. 6 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:17.839 You are wrong how you figure Every mark on Mongo 7 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:18.600 is hunting. 8 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:21.199 You down, not you, your partner, he said, I didn't 9 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:21.879 have a ray gun. 10 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:27.039 Full cast performances set in the haunted corners of the globe. 11 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:29.480 Darkness is coming for you. 12 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:38.159 That's the fear that taunts me. Dark Destinations by fatherm 13 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:41.439 Alone at Weirdingwaymedia dot. 14 00:00:41.119 --> 00:02:47.680 Com weird We. 15 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:50.760 Welcome back to Midnight Viewing, the horror anthology podcast, where 16 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:52.840 this season we're taking a look at George A. Ramero's 17 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:56.079 nineteen eighties series Tales from the Dark Side. Sharing the 18 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:58.760 Midnight View with me? Are the projection booths? Mike White? 19 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:01.560 Is that a comment? My glass is dirty? 20 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:04.239 It is a comet and your glasses are dirty? And 21 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.319 the culture cast Chris Statue, You. 22 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:09.080 Know I heard that Baltimore is a wonderful town if 23 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:10.599 you know someone to show you around. 24 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:13.360 Okay, Tonight, we are taking a look at two episodes 25 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:17.479 from season two. They are Comet Watch and Dream Girl. 26 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:21.479 Comet Watch is season two episode thirteen. It originally aired 27 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:25.439 on January twelfth, nineteen eighty six, Happy New Year, Everybody, 28 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:28.199 written by Harvey Jacobs, who wrote it All comes Out 29 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:30.039 in the Wash, or at least the story for it, 30 00:02:30.280 --> 00:02:33.400 and Julie Selbo, who wrote the False Prophet based on 31 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:35.879 a story by Harvey Jacobs. This one was directed by 32 00:02:35.919 --> 00:02:39.960 Warner Shuck who directed Grandma's Last Wish, and stars Fritz 33 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:44.360 Weaver Inside the Closet, Anthony Held and Kate McGregor Stewart, 34 00:02:44.639 --> 00:02:47.319 who is the censor in Scrooged. I can see a 35 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:49.639 nipples that same lady that was his wife in this 36 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:51.919 one anyway. This one is about an astronomer obsessed with 37 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:55.800 Halley's comments return who manages to draw down a fellow 38 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:58.840 stargazer who witnessed the comet in nineteen ten and has 39 00:02:58.879 --> 00:03:01.240 been traveling with it ever Sids. I'm going to go 40 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:03.479 to you, Mike first, because you were around in nineteen 41 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:06.840 eighty six and can remember the quiet mania for Halle's 42 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:09.360 comment that was going on. I certainly remember a spade 43 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:11.879 of movies like Night of the Comet, Remember The Adventures 44 00:03:11.919 --> 00:03:14.400 of Mark Twain that was all about Halle's comment. 45 00:03:14.759 --> 00:03:16.840 Yeah, well, hell, I was around in nineteen ten when 46 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:17.719 it first came out. 47 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:21.439 So out the tomb situation here exactly. 48 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:24.759 Yes, I come out of my cave every fifteen years, 49 00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:27.560 my cave which I make out of newspapers and spit. 50 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:30.759 God, I had forgotten all about that, Thank you. 51 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:34.759 No problem. And then I eat the Petory Gland. Oh wait, no, 52 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:37.520 I'm getting my col chek mixed up with my X files? 53 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:39.319 When do you marry the fifteen year old? 54 00:03:39.360 --> 00:03:39.719 And all this? 55 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:43.599 Oh shit, really forgot him already done? 56 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:47.759 No, no, I scandal noted. Yeah, I had him on 57 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:49.520 the show, and I was really debating. I was like, 58 00:03:49.800 --> 00:03:51.840 do I have a canceled person on the show? Yeah, 59 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:55.479 I'll do that. Great to see Anthony Heald, especially not 60 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:59.120 playing a shithead. But he plays a shithead like nobody's business. 61 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:00.919 Though I guess maybe he is a little bit of 62 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:05.520 a shitthead. He's just so obsessed with the stars and everything. 63 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:08.800 And I can understand the commentary that only comes around 64 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:12.560 like once in your lifetime, unless you're Mark Twain or 65 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:16.120 live to be seventy seven. I guess it is, but 66 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:19.399 you really only really remember it the one time, I guess. 67 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:22.959 But yeah, I was a little wary of the science 68 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:26.959 of this one with people coming through the telescope. I 69 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:30.399 wasn't exactly sure how this is supposed to go, and 70 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:33.720 it's how many times have we seen the shrewish wife 71 00:04:34.160 --> 00:04:38.959 and we have the guy who needs the better girlfriend? 72 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:42.759 And this is basically so many Stephen King short stories 73 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:44.720 and so many stories that we've seen on here. It 74 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:48.160 is word processor of the gods. But rather than deleting 75 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:52.399 his wife and Isaac Newton or sorry Edmund Holly, rather 76 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:55.120 than deleting them, he just they eventually get taken care 77 00:04:55.120 --> 00:04:57.399 of on their own. What'd you think about this one, Chris? 78 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:00.800 Oh my god, when didn't we wander into? Is what 79 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:03.240 it felt like like? It was such an I had 80 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:07.560 to remind myself what show we were watching with this episode, 81 00:05:07.600 --> 00:05:12.279 because it was shockingly, shockingly tonally not what this show 82 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:15.000 has been at all up until this point. And this 83 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:17.519 segment really felt like something from Twilight Zone eighty five, 84 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:19.920 almost a blackout sketch. I know I repeat myself a 85 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:22.040 lot sometimes, but I wouldn't say it's a blackout sketch. 86 00:05:22.040 --> 00:05:24.560 But the idea is it's like a three or four 87 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:27.839 panel sketch from like a mad magazine. Oh you got 88 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:30.879 trapped on Hailbop and whatever. This isn't Hailbob. Wait, this 89 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:35.160 isn't Hailbop, right, hail BOP's another one? Is this another one? Okay? 90 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:38.759 So Hailbop is the one where Marshall Applewhite took a ride. Right, 91 00:05:38.800 --> 00:05:42.480 that's Hailbop. That Hailbop. That's the one that I remember 92 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:43.279 is Hailbop. 93 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:47.879 Allie's comment is the one that they named after Ace 94 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:49.160 Freely from. 95 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:54.199 Kiss Okay, gotcha. I'm glad Father Father Malone bopped for Hailbop. 96 00:05:54.560 --> 00:06:00.079 Oh God, I'm imagining this episode, which is effectively a 97 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:03.199 real mantic episode where their characters are coming down on 98 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:06.720 the Hilbob comic, but we're next door. Are these Nike 99 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:10.240 wearing freaks around cutting off their genitals and killings. 100 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:12.360 That might have been better than what we got. This 101 00:06:12.519 --> 00:06:16.199 is a strange segment because for me, it just doesn't 102 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:19.319 feel tonally like the show we've been watching up until 103 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:22.800 this point, a show where children are being murdered and 104 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:25.800 adults are being murdered by monsters and teddy bears, and 105 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.680 I would say cell phones, landlines. So it's just a 106 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:33.160 little weird. It's not what I was expecting, and it 107 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:36.480 feels a little quaint even for this show. Anthony healed though, 108 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:40.439 he's great, but when is he not? That's shocking. Anthony 109 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.439 heel's great? Who would have funk it? Father Malone? Let 110 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:44.639 us know, what did you think? 111 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:47.759 I thought it was a novel take on time travel 112 00:06:48.000 --> 00:06:51.639 in that the character is effectively in stasis, but they're not. 113 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:54.399 It isn't like she went into hyper sleep. She's just 114 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:57.279 traveling with the comet and not aging because she's traveling 115 00:06:57.319 --> 00:06:59.560 faster than the speed of light I supposed, But no, 116 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:01.319 that does make any sense because none of the science 117 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:04.639 here makes sense. As you said, Mike, it's the opposite 118 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:07.199 of a normal tails from the Dark Sign episode. This 119 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:12.600 isn't technophobia. This is technophilia. It's the magical device that 120 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:16.199 allows us to or it's the It's not the magical device, 121 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:18.759 it's the device that allows us to tap into magic. 122 00:07:18.800 --> 00:07:21.839 Here basically where Edmund Halley we find out has been 123 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:24.319 trapped on the comet for seventy five years, and then 124 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:28.600 the previous occupant of the house who built the telescope itself. 125 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:32.759 So is she magic? Maybe just the telescope came together 126 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:35.399 in the right configuration. It allows you to see a 127 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:38.000 window in time. Who cares? None of that matters. This 128 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:42.399 was indeed word processor of the Gods. Yeah, I agree, Mike. 129 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:45.959 The lead character is a bit of a dick in 130 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:48.800 how obsessive he is at the beginning where his wife, 131 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:51.920 who is a shrew certainly and he shouldn't be with her. 132 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:55.399 She's in curlers and wearing in eating bond bonds literally 133 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:58.600 for fucking on one sequence here and this is one 134 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.360 of those he works for her father's situations. But really 135 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:03.439 she wants him to just go to a dinner party, 136 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:04.879 and he doesn't want to go to the dinner party 137 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:06.839 because he's gotta look at comed again. The commed will 138 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:09.399 be there tomorrow night. Man, Just go to the fucking 139 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:11.720 dinner party, be there for three hours, and then come 140 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:13.279 back and then spend the rest of the night with 141 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:15.240 the comic. It just seemed, I don't know, it seemed 142 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:18.720 very silly. Why would this woman want to return to 143 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.959 this material worlds, this comic ghost. I guess she's stuck 144 00:08:23.040 --> 00:08:26.199 up there with Fritz Weaver. Speaking of Fritz Weaver, Now 145 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:29.800 I had never seen this episode before, Guys, somehow this 146 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:31.319 is the Tales from the Dark side that will. 147 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:36.080 Lose WHOA, Yeah, that's fucking blore. Yeah, so particularly an 148 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:39.320 episode to miss. Really, yeah, you really missed a real 149 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:40.879 winner of an episode. 150 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:42.679 I feel really completest. 151 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:45.200 Do you feel robbed? Do you feel robbed that your 152 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:47.799 enjoyment of the show was lacking because you didn't get 153 00:08:47.840 --> 00:08:49.279 to see this episode originally? 154 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:53.039 What's worse is it starts and the first shown is 155 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:56.440 a close up of the portrait of Edmund Halley, who 156 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:59.039 is played by Fritz Weaver. So it's Fritz Weaver in 157 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:02.720 a big old French wig. And for some reason, my 158 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:05.320 mind went to the Marquis de Sade and I thought, oh, 159 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:07.799 this is gonna be good, and then it turned into 160 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:11.840 word processor of the Gods, and so that was wildly disappointing. 161 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:16.039 But little things like I don't know Harvey Jacobs wrote this. 162 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:18.840 I noticed he's got his name on about eight episodes 163 00:09:19.039 --> 00:09:22.080 of Towns from the Dark Side's, but he shares credit 164 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:24.360 on each of them, which means he's turned in his 165 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:28.440 idea or something and then had to be rewritten. But 166 00:09:28.840 --> 00:09:31.360 none of them turn out good. Because this is a 167 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.080 bad Twilight Zone episode. This isn't, like you said, Chris, 168 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:38.159 this isn't. It's not just a Twilight Zone eighty five episode. 169 00:09:38.159 --> 00:09:40.039 It's a poor Twilight Zone eighty five. 170 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:44.559 So yeah, even two or three oh three, this is 171 00:09:44.600 --> 00:09:47.639 made in Canada. This is a Canadian episode. I can't 172 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:50.440 even This reminds me that George went episode of Twilight 173 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:52.919 Zone eighty five where he's like in his basement and 174 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:55.440 there was like the other version of himself through the wall. 175 00:09:55.519 --> 00:09:58.039 It reminded me of that nan I remember thinking then, man, 176 00:09:58.159 --> 00:10:01.039 this is fun, and here it's I mean, look, Haley's 177 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:03.679 comment or Halle's comment was clearly a thing everybody was 178 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:06.240 thinking about. This is a thing that was on everybody's mind. 179 00:10:06.360 --> 00:10:09.360 But to what end? They don't do anything interesting with it. 180 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:12.600 And it's a love story, but this show doesn't do 181 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:16.240 love stories. This is such a weird story to adapt 182 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:18.600 for this show. It just doesn't work. And it's not 183 00:10:18.639 --> 00:10:21.600 even mean spirited. The hero of the piece gets what 184 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:23.960 he wants in the end, not what he deserves. 185 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:26.759 He reminds me too of Bring Around the Redhead with 186 00:10:27.039 --> 00:10:29.120 just like, oh, I'm going to open up this portal 187 00:10:29.120 --> 00:10:32.320 to another world and this girl's going to pop out right, 188 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:35.039 There's going to be danger and it's weird that the 189 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:41.639 danger is his wife and Edmund Halley himself, and there's 190 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:43.960 it feels like there should be more coming out of 191 00:10:44.000 --> 00:10:46.200 that telescope. And that's what I was thinking at first. 192 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:48.759 When she's like, oh, no, you know the telescope is 193 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:52.840 still open because that's the portal and now boom, it's 194 00:10:53.000 --> 00:10:55.320 Edmund Halley, I was like, Oh, I was expecting like 195 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:58.919 monsters or some weird creatures that lived on the commet 196 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:02.840 with her, but no. Yeah, so we're thinking Father Malone. 197 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:05.440 When you're explaining this, it's because it's going near light 198 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:09.559 speed and that's why it's they're not aging. This is 199 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:11.440 this the whole Einsteinian physics thing. 200 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:14.360 I think that's what they're implying. 201 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:18.559 Okay, so they're on an observed point and yeah. 202 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:20.120 Here's what I would have liked to have happened to 203 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:21.639 the episode. This is very simple. They could have even 204 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:24.519 done this with dialogue, which is they mentioned that they 205 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:27.679 this window in time opens up and then the telescope 206 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:30.320 becomes this conduit through this window in time and puts 207 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:33.480 you on the comet and it's a it's an episode 208 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:35.840 on a clock because they need to get back on 209 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:39.600 the comet. Now, what if they both got sucked into 210 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:41.879 the telescope, which they close, and then they look through 211 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:44.159 the telescope and then we just see their bodies floating 212 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:46.600 in space because they missed the time window. 213 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:49.639 Yeah, but that would actually have a point. Well, I'm 214 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:51.120 just there would have been there would have been a 215 00:11:51.159 --> 00:11:53.600 point to there would have been some payoff there, and 216 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:56.240 that's not something the episode interested in doing. Is giving 217 00:11:56.320 --> 00:11:58.759 us a payoff at all? Apparently for anything. 218 00:11:59.039 --> 00:12:02.320 No, it's it isn't. This isn't. It doesn't even have 219 00:12:02.360 --> 00:12:04.639 the teeth of word processor of the gods because he 220 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:06.480 deletes that woman from existence. 221 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:09.639 And this is just oops, she fell into the telescope 222 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:13.600 like he didn't even do anything. He didn't even do anything. No, 223 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:16.080 he had to do nothing. She fucking she fucked off 224 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:17.639 on her own by anestative. 225 00:12:17.799 --> 00:12:20.759 They made it her fault because she lunges at the 226 00:12:21.080 --> 00:12:22.399 nineteen ten girl. 227 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:25.320 A shrew, I say, a shrew of a woman like 228 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:28.240 you said, my, how many shrewish women do we need? 229 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.240 This show doesn't do that. This is a Twilight Zone 230 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:34.360 eighty five episode masquerading his Tales from the Dark Side. 231 00:12:34.399 --> 00:12:38.559 And I remember now why that show was such a 232 00:12:38.759 --> 00:12:42.840 fucking slug because these episodes are not good. This is 233 00:12:42.879 --> 00:12:44.519 an episode of Tails from the Dark Side. I would 234 00:12:44.519 --> 00:12:47.639 say you lucked out by not having seen Father Belade 235 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:48.159 straight up. 236 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:51.360 It really reminds me of a bad one act, especially 237 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:54.600 that they're I don't think they ever leave the room, right, 238 00:12:54.679 --> 00:12:55.399 it's just. 239 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:56.720 Not the house anyway. 240 00:12:57.200 --> 00:13:00.440 Yeah, it's just really feels like we put this on 241 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.399 for our high school play. We had a whole night 242 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:05.799 of one acts, so we decided that we would do 243 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:10.559 this particular episode of Fales from the dark Side. And yeah, 244 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:14.279 it was a rousing success because we were all seventeen 245 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:17.399 years old and we had the best time dressing up 246 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:18.639 an old timey clothes. 247 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:21.039 I had a wig on, yes. 248 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:23.960 Oh yeah, Remember how funny Fritz looked when he was 249 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:27.480 wearing that crazy get up. Yeah. Yeah, it just it's 250 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:28.600 so amateurish. 251 00:13:28.919 --> 00:13:32.320 Speaking of amateurish, yeah, it's kind of going to be 252 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:35.639 our transition here. Our next episode is dream Girl. This 253 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:39.399 is season two, episode fourteen. It aired originally on January 254 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:42.200 the nineteenth, nineteen eighty six. This is written by Tim 255 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:45.879 Duranan from a story by Barbara Paul and directed by 256 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:51.679 Tim Duranan, starring Carolyn Seymour voice of Aisha Kendisha. 257 00:13:51.759 --> 00:13:54.440 Also voice of one of the main characters in Gears 258 00:13:54.440 --> 00:13:57.600 of War, which I recognized her voice immeditly. 259 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:01.919 She is a massive voice actor. If you played any 260 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:04.720 Star Wars games, you've heard her voice. She was in 261 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:08.039 Twilight Zone eighty five in the Ye Gods episode. She 262 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:12.159 was Maghera in that episode. Okay, she was Ziita in 263 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:13.200 Stepto and Son. 264 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:15.840 I mostly know her from Mister Mom. 265 00:14:15.879 --> 00:14:19.080 I think that's right. Yeah, that's the other big eighties thing. 266 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:22.360 And then not long after she started doing voice work, 267 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:25.159 actually not before that, nineteen eighty three. I think it 268 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:28.000 is her first voice credit in the film Barefoot Jen. 269 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:29.399 Remember that animated film. 270 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:31.039 No, I can't say, Oh it's this. 271 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:34.720 It's this horrifying Japanese film about the horrors of nuclear war. 272 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:40.080 And oh yeah, yes, Barefoot Jen. Yeah, she's Jen in 273 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:44.120 that in the English dub of that film from eighty three. 274 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:45.919 But she has sincere. 275 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:46.879 I couldn't. 276 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:49.080 I'm sure you could tell me the number of credits 277 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:51.279 she has, but it's vast anyway. 278 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:52.960 Just the voice acting alone. 279 00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:57.600 Yeah, also starring John Cedar and Lou Kattel. And this 280 00:14:57.679 --> 00:14:59.840 is a story of a stage hand who manages to 281 00:14:59.840 --> 00:15:02.960 try actors in his dream where they're forced into a 282 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:07.039 game of some sort Chris you go. I have zero 283 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:11.679 notes on this one. This one was ohow well Zorro 284 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:14.039 the Gay Blades own Carolyn Seymour. 285 00:15:14.200 --> 00:15:16.279 That's the other thing she was in speaking of George Hamilton, 286 00:15:16.279 --> 00:15:18.679 and we just talked about recently, Mike and I did 287 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:23.080 on our Columbo show. I man, this is an episode 288 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:25.559 where they just throw you into the deep end, like 289 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:28.080 minute one, right, and they're just like, you don't have 290 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.960 any idea what's going on here? And neither do the characters. Yep, 291 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:36.000 that's true the case. It's confusing and bizarre, and then 292 00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:39.080 the payoff at the end is Wow, they really thought 293 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.799 they were clever. Huh what a Can I just say 294 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:44.440 that this might be the first time in the history 295 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:47.039 of midnight viewing where I say, this is a shame 296 00:15:47.480 --> 00:15:50.039 that it's that this show has gotten this bad out 297 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:53.559 of nowhere, because these two episodes together pretty bad, but 298 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:57.200 on their own they're equally quite terrible. And this segment 299 00:15:57.399 --> 00:15:59.919 or this episode, I get what they were going for. 300 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.960 I understand the idea that they're needling at here, but 301 00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:06.960 it's done quite poorly. It's not very compelling. Looks like 302 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:09.679 it was filmed speaking of filmed in a high school 303 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:12.440 fucking theater. Good lord, this looked like it was filmed 304 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:15.559 down at the local LA high school, fucking ten minutes 305 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:18.480 from I don't know CBS's backlock. I have no idea. 306 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:22.720 This episode looks cheap, it feels cheap, and ultimately goes nowhere, 307 00:16:22.759 --> 00:16:26.120 and it wastes I think everybody's time, not at least 308 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:29.000 mine and yours and Mike's, but definitely the people who 309 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:31.639 worked on this episode, because this is just a strange 310 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:33.639 episode to say the leak REDI, Mike, do. 311 00:16:33.639 --> 00:16:36.519 You have something to add? Amazing Larry, That's all I 312 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:40.039 could think of every time it was on screen, and 313 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:43.399 just that amazing like head turn with those little like 314 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:45.720 knots that he's got on his head, you know, the 315 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:49.240 little U top notz. Yeah, this really reminds me of 316 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.879 four characters or characters in search of an author, where 317 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:57.120 we're just like trapped in this imaginary world. And I 318 00:16:57.159 --> 00:16:59.879 guess the fakiness is supposed to be part of the 319 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:03.440 charm because it's all to do with the theater and 320 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:07.960 that it's the stage hand that is controlling everything while 321 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:09.960 the director is doing his bidding. 322 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:10.759 Yeah. 323 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:15.359 I could not care less with this one. Everybody's wearing 324 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:19.960 bad wigs, we've got bad backdrops, we've got really flat lighting. 325 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:23.559 Feels very hazy through so much of this. I guess 326 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:26.400 there's just a ton of smoke on the set. So yeah, 327 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:29.240 I didn't even like the look of this episode. I 328 00:17:29.519 --> 00:17:33.039 just really it's a mystery for them, but it's not 329 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:35.920 a mystery for me as the viewer. I'm just like, Okay, yeah, 330 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:38.640 I can pretty much tell what's going on right away, 331 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:41.839 and it takes them twenty minutes to figure that the 332 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:43.960 rest of that out, So it's pretty frustrating. 333 00:17:44.319 --> 00:17:46.920 Lewis Kutel that worked for sixty years in the industry 334 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:51.039 and passed away in twenty twenty one, which is fucking insane. 335 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:54.640 He looks old here. He looks old here in eighty six. 336 00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:58.880 If he wasn't on Marty Miller, that's a real big 337 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:02.039 miss because he's got the perfect face for me. 338 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:04.240 He is on Barney Miller. He's been on two episodes 339 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:04.920 of Barney Miller. 340 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:08.279 Good Yes, how about you, father Malone? What'd you think? 341 00:18:08.599 --> 00:18:08.720 Uh? 342 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:13.519 What did I think? I? I and the last episode, 343 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:15.759 as you mentioned, you both mentioned it now about how 344 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:19.759 kind of felt high schooly. Yeah, this one in particular, 345 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:24.799 it's supposed to be a hallucinatory dream episode, but everything 346 00:18:24.839 --> 00:18:27.480 looks like the real world, with just something slightly out 347 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:29.440 of skew in the in the background. A lot of 348 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:32.279 conversations are taking place in front of a cyclorama of 349 00:18:32.319 --> 00:18:35.039 a mountain or something. And as you said, like the 350 00:18:35.119 --> 00:18:37.319 characters are dressed different, and she has a wig on, 351 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:38.920 she has very short hair, and now they've got her 352 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:41.240 dressed up in a week. And so for all the 353 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:45.680 episode manages to do is keep a level of confusion 354 00:18:45.759 --> 00:18:48.359 going Where is that the same actress? Is that a 355 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:50.799 different is this someone new? Is it like that? Kind 356 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:54.359 of that's least off on it, right, because if you 357 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:57.200 start asking any other questions, you'll realize there's nothing at 358 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:01.200 all going on here. They think the conceit of somebody 359 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:05.240 dreaming you into their dream is enough to carry over 360 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:09.440 having no plot or story, and it's and you do 361 00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:12.480 need one, as it turns out, because you're right, it 362 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:14.559 is a bit of the four characters in search of 363 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:17.400 an exit or the what was the Twilight Zone equivalent 364 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:19.079 of that? Or was that the twilight. 365 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.240 Zone that goes all the way back to like Italian drama. Yeah, 366 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:26.160 I think it's characters in search of an author is Tirandello? 367 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:31.319 You know, yeah, exactly like model things. Just oh, and 368 00:19:31.359 --> 00:19:33.839 we don't know any of these people, We don't what's 369 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:34.279 so funny? 370 00:19:34.279 --> 00:19:37.240 And it treats it like we do and it's so bizarre. 371 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:39.920 There should have been a ten minute prologue and get 372 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:41.400 into the dream sequence. 373 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:44.680 We go right into it. We get we have possibly 374 00:19:44.720 --> 00:19:48.000 thirty seconds of real world at the beginning, during which 375 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:51.799 we're being clumsily given the information that people have been 376 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:55.519 disappearing lately, and then we're so confused for the next 377 00:19:55.559 --> 00:19:57.400 twenty minutes that we don't realize that the rest of 378 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:00.720 the people in the dream are also the disappeared that 379 00:20:00.759 --> 00:20:04.599 they were mentioning so fucking briefly before all the confusion began. 380 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:07.400 Hey, I'd like to point out Carolyn Seymour is sexy 381 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:10.279 without having a sexier up in a bullshit outfit by 382 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:12.400 the way, episode. 383 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:15.000 Oh, I know exactly. I thought they were doing the opposite, 384 00:20:15.039 --> 00:20:18.000 Like when she's in her short hair and just dressed 385 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:20.799 as she was, it's like super fun. And then they 386 00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:23.400 tart her up like some fucking lame show girl, and 387 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:23.880 it was like. 388 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:26.079 Yesh, and he goes, oh, I didn't notice you had 389 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:28.799 such good legs, like ick, give me that ick please, 390 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:31.480 you've given it to me outright, you weirdos's And as 391 00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:34.640 a weird sexual it's like a weird sexual Sadism to 392 00:20:34.680 --> 00:20:36.440 the episode is what it feels like, because the auto 393 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:41.359 Strog characters getting off on being this misogynist to everybody too. 394 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:44.400 And you know, I don't Again, I'm not saying it 395 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:47.480 doesn't work. It's just he never gets his in the end, 396 00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:49.839 So what's the point. The people that get theirs are 397 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:52.039 the people that that don't deserve it. And it's again, 398 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:54.920 I understand we complained about the show being mean sometimes, 399 00:20:54.920 --> 00:20:57.759 but in this regard, in this episode, it's not even 400 00:20:57.759 --> 00:20:59.319 that the show's being mean. It's that the show doesn't 401 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:01.559