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<v Speaker 1>The paranormal, UFOs, monsters, mysteries. You're listening to Talking Weird

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<v Speaker 1>and Know from a Kevin Deep in the Northwoods, your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor Dean Bertram.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening on my fellow widows and weirdos. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>Talking Weird on the Unsold Radio Network. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 2>Dean Bertram, and I'm delighted that you've joined me for

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<v Speaker 2>what is a Brother Bomy night here in the north Woods.

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<v Speaker 3>Where I record live stream the show.

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<v Speaker 2>That's said as I think I'll mention it to the

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<v Speaker 2>guests when he comes on, because I had him on

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<v Speaker 2>near the beginning of the summer, and now it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like he was just here yesterday and the summer is

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<v Speaker 2>racing by. I hope you're all enjoying these last days

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<v Speaker 2>of summer, finding fun things to do, whether it's county

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<v Speaker 2>fairs or last days at the lake, or little trips

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever your traditions might or might not be. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>just taking it easy, enjoying the evening on your patio

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<v Speaker 2>or your balcony or your front porch or wherever you

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<v Speaker 2>are in the world. If you're in the Northern Hemisphere,

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy the rest of the summer. And if you're if

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<v Speaker 2>you're elsewhere, I suppose you know, get ready for your

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<v Speaker 2>upcoming summer regardless, I'm delighted that you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>with me for the next hour or so. Whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>live at nine pm on Thursday, August the twenty, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six, or whatever time you're watching or listening in

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<v Speaker 2>the future, Welcome. I'm so delighted to have my guests

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<v Speaker 2>back with me again. As I mentioned, I had him

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<v Speaker 2>earlier in the summer. He's one of my favorite people

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<v Speaker 2>to have on the show and one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>people in this entire crazy forty in paranormal space that

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<v Speaker 2>we are all interested in. He's also a renowned jazz

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<v Speaker 2>musician and a paranormal investigator. For over thirty years, he

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<v Speaker 2>has led the acclaimed Eric Mintel Quartet, performing at prestigious

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<v Speaker 2>venues like the White House and the Kennedy Center and

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<v Speaker 2>captivating audiences with his innovative jazz compositions. And they are fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I've listened to him play and so it's spectacular. Beyond music,

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<v Speaker 2>he has made a name for himself in the world

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<v Speaker 2>of the paranormal with his hit TV series Eric Mintel Investigates,

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<v Speaker 2>which is always a blast and super interesting exploring phenomena

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<v Speaker 2>from ghosts and UFOs to bigfoot and dog man sightings,

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<v Speaker 2>and his dual careers highlight his diverse talents and insatiable curiosity.

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<v Speaker 2>He's also an incredible author, and we're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>talking about his most recent book today, which is just fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm delighted to welcome back to the show my

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<v Speaker 2>dear friend Eric Mintel. Oh my gosh, Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 3>In the house. I thought, good mate, I thought you'd

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<v Speaker 3>throw it in a mask when you were in the

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<v Speaker 3>green room for a minute.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you got to mix it up, right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 2>That's absolutely I used to I always loft doing that

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<v Speaker 2>for my Halloween episodes, wearing something bizarre.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, oh, definitely definitely, man, for sure. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 4>always a pleasure to see you, man, it's always always

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<v Speaker 4>great to be on the show. You know, you and

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<v Speaker 4>I are such like minded people, such creative individuals. You

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<v Speaker 4>are doing so much which is really really great, so

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<v Speaker 4>many projects. I don't know how you keep up with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. Well, I mean you're not one to You shouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be one to speak, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you were so busy with your with your music,

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<v Speaker 2>your TV show, your books, and we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about your most recent book tonight. What I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to mention quickly though, which I can't believe. You and

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<v Speaker 2>I were discussing Disclosure day like I think, ten episodes ago,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was the beginning of the summer.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, right, it was just it was that, like

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<v Speaker 4>I think the couple of days before it came out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've seen an advanced, like proper advanced industry screen,

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of stuff I used to see when I

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<v Speaker 2>was in Sydney. Now in the boonies, get invited to

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that. But my cinema released it a day

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<v Speaker 2>earlier than the official release, and I think I saw

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<v Speaker 2>it the day you came on or something, so we

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<v Speaker 2>were both ready to jump into it. And I beat

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<v Speaker 2>the hell out of that movie and you were far

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<v Speaker 2>kinder to it. I did see the other day. Speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of movies, I don't if you've seen it or not,

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<v Speaker 2>the End of Oak Street.

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<v Speaker 4>Did not see that yet, Exa, that's on the list.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so yeah, it's speaking of Spielberg, it's better than

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<v Speaker 2>all the Jurassic Parking movies put together.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it looks it. It looks it. I want to

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<v Speaker 4>see that for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>It's phenomenal. That was it was good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think even the trailer of the well, the teaser

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<v Speaker 2>trailer and the lead up to it was like Summer

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<v Speaker 2>Ends on Oak Street. And it's such a great because

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<v Speaker 2>it is the end of summer. It's a perfect movie

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<v Speaker 2>to just see out the summer.

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<v Speaker 3>It's right now, man.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's what we were just saying, like how things

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<v Speaker 4>are going so fast. It's like, you know, we were

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<v Speaker 4>just talking. It seems like it was only just a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of days ago, but it's like ten episodes ago already.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, the summer has been crazy. We've been busy

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<v Speaker 4>as hell with doing all I mean we're shooting video

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<v Speaker 4>all the time for of the Pocono Television Network and

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<v Speaker 4>have been loving the partnership and just having a great time.

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<v Speaker 4>We just we did I mean, we've done it all. Ghosts, UFOs, Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 4>We actually have a Bigfoot video investigation that we did

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<v Speaker 4>that's coming out this Saturday on PTN, and we talked

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<v Speaker 4>to witnesses. We talked to a gentleman who actually was

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<v Speaker 4>on a bike trail and heard a scream and stopped

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<v Speaker 4>and looked around, saw this, like all this stuff going

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<v Speaker 4>on in the woods over by this creek bed, and

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<v Speaker 4>just like the Patterson Gimlin thing, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 4>he sees this creature standing there like at six and

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<v Speaker 4>a half seven feet tall, and he had the presence

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<v Speaker 4>he also took a picture of it. And you could

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<v Speaker 4>see this culture and we ran it through all the

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<v Speaker 4>things like the AI to see if it was you know,

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<v Speaker 4>fake or anything like that, and it's not. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the genuine thing. So there's something there. And people

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<v Speaker 4>have been seeing this creature in the Pocono Mountains for years,

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<v Speaker 4>for decades, so it's uh. And so you'll see a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of a lot of the witnesses, all of the

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<v Speaker 4>stories kind of tie in together. It's really really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm looking forward to that episode. My daughter and

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<v Speaker 2>I always watch your show together.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, good thanks man. She's with her Momay night.

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<v Speaker 2>My wonderful girlfriend, Samantha Crawsey was a guest just last

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<v Speaker 2>week on the show, has been on a few times.

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<v Speaker 2>She's here tonight and she sent me her heart. She

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<v Speaker 2>always sends me she's downstairs. She's not in her house tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's fun to have It's fun to have her. Hey, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>nice too. I'm sure you can hear me, even I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>She can probably.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, thank you. Dean's a great guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Eric.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty sweet if you just say, but yeah, what

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about tonight though, is going to be this

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<v Speaker 2>your new book again. I said, how busy you are

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<v Speaker 2>paranormal in the Poconose there is.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's unbelievable, man, I mean, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>I you know, it started has already been a year

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<v Speaker 4>in June. It was a year that we partnered with

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<v Speaker 4>Pokeno Television Network, and you know, a real quick story

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<v Speaker 4>about that. I had, you know, prior to that, we

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<v Speaker 4>were doing a lot of videos for restaurants, pubs, bed

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<v Speaker 4>and breakfasts and telling historic stories here in Bucks County

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<v Speaker 4>and kind of going all over the place. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>We went to Elcorn of course, and did the Beast

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<v Speaker 4>of Bray Road, New Jersey Pine Barons and did a

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<v Speaker 4>big Foot investigation in the Pine Barons and the Jersey

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<v Speaker 4>Devil of course. But I had called I had seen

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<v Speaker 4>a commercial on TV down here for Pokeno Television Network,

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<v Speaker 4>and I saw Chris Barrett was the CEO, and he

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<v Speaker 4>just looked like a really cool, approachable guy to just call,

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<v Speaker 4>and I said, Hey, I wonder if you know he'd

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<v Speaker 4>be interested in airing my show. So I called and

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<v Speaker 4>we made it, and then it led from me getting

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<v Speaker 4>the videos aired to having this incredible partnership. So we're

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<v Speaker 4>really really grateful me Domick Satel who's our spirit medium,

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<v Speaker 4>and Mike Striegel. One of these nights we'll have to

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<v Speaker 4>get all three of these guys on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'd love whenever you want to, let's do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd love to do it. Yeah, we should.

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<v Speaker 4>We should definitely do that because Dominic Scott some really

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<v Speaker 4>create insights on when he goes on these investigations, like

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<v Speaker 4>what is he tuning in on and what you know,

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<v Speaker 4>how he goes into it where I don't tell him

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<v Speaker 4>anything and he's kind of going into all these investigations cold,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. And and for Mike, our cameraman, who initially

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<v Speaker 4>was on the skeptical side, is now more of a

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<v Speaker 4>believer because the very first video we did of the

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<v Speaker 4>year was the Harry Packer Mansion in Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 4>which is just in the Poconos, and the the Harry

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<v Speaker 4>Packer Mansion. I don't know if people know this or not,

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<v Speaker 4>it was the inspiration for Walt Disney's Haunted Mansion in

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<v Speaker 4>Disney in California. So all of Walt Disney's guys were

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<v Speaker 4>there in jim Thorpe looking at this house and they

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<v Speaker 4>modeled it after after this, the Haunted Mansion, so the

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<v Speaker 4>the the chandeliers inside. So that was our very first time,

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<v Speaker 4>our very first video. And on that investigation, Mike not

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<v Speaker 4>only saw a shadow at the top of the stairs,

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<v Speaker 4>which is which a lot of people have seen this

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<v Speaker 4>this entity, he also was he was getting possessed by

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<v Speaker 4>the picture, by the painting of Harry Packer. Not possessed

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<v Speaker 4>in an exorcist kind of way, but he was getting possessed.

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<v Speaker 4>Whereas we kept like where is Mike, where did he go?

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<v Speaker 4>And he's going into the into the room where this

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<v Speaker 4>painting is. He kept being drawn into this painting and

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<v Speaker 4>it was just like this kind of connection that he

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<v Speaker 4>had and it was an interesting thing. So, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was a very wealthy family that that initially owned the

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<v Speaker 4>house in the uh turn of the century, and they

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<v Speaker 4>were responsible for a lot of like Lehigh University, the

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<v Speaker 4>railroad system out in that area, so they were very

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<v Speaker 4>influential people and also in the political scene as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So but it was a really really cool thing to

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<v Speaker 4>see Mike have that kind of reaction, you know, because sometimes,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when you have. One of the things with

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<v Speaker 4>my show too, I try to do, is I try

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<v Speaker 4>to feature the cameraman, you know, because a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>these shows, you know, they're always behind the scenes. So

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<v Speaker 4>we always try to get these guys right on camera

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<v Speaker 4>because they're seeing things that we're not, you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>might not see, you know, So we get his testimony

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<v Speaker 4>every once in a while, and just the dynamic, the

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<v Speaker 4>energy between the three of us is great. And then

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<v Speaker 4>we also have some of the people from PTN come

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<v Speaker 4>on the investigation with us, Kate Kroll, who's executive in

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<v Speaker 4>charge of broadcasting, a few of the interns come up,

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<v Speaker 4>only the history, but all these incredible like paranormal activities

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<v Speaker 2>and we were talking about that extensively. Just now there

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<v Speaker 2>was the loudest rumbling above the house. I muted you

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<v Speaker 2>Is that like military jets? It probably was, but it

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<v Speaker 2>But it was a crazy loud rumble. Now like if

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, here in even our northwoods of Wisconsin, the

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<v Speaker 2>at night is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love that about your show.

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<v Speaker 2>I love how you go to so so many different

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<v Speaker 2>so many different experiences, and that you're not just a

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<v Speaker 2>of this different subject matter and you take it all

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<v Speaker 2>equally seriously and you go and you look at all

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Was that something and before we get into

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<v Speaker 2>the book more, I'm just cute because don't think I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever asked you that before. Was that something you'd kind

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<v Speaker 2>of move into where we were doing just ghosts, but

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<v Speaker 2>now we want to do this, or we were just

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<v Speaker 2>doing UFOs and now we want to do this or

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<v Speaker 2>was it were you always like I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>do every strange tale I can get my hands on,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think it was like, I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>the fact of, like, you know, there's so much out there,

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<v Speaker 4>let's let's try to mix it up a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>and try to do it cryptids, ghosts, you know, UFOs

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<v Speaker 4>like everybody's talking about it. Everybody's had these crazy sightings.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's been Yeah, that was early on and early

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<v Speaker 4>on in the show, I always wanted to be truth

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<v Speaker 4>based investigating. So we always say truth without the gimmicks, right,

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<v Speaker 4>these investigations, and maybe sometimes a EVP which is really

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of a dictation device, but and maybe not

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<v Speaker 4>even that sometimes and letting the show organically happen, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>And with that that when you go into these things,

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<v Speaker 4>and you've heard me say it before, I go into

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of our investigations on the skeptical side, but

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<v Speaker 4>and having that bit of the open mindset, there's stuff

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<v Speaker 4>prime example was last night, Mike and I just finished

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<v Speaker 4>a UFO video for here. It's called Witnesses Witnessed the

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<v Speaker 4>UFOs here in Bucks County. We're setting up last night.

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<v Speaker 4>We did a night shoot right here at the house

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<v Speaker 4>here in the yard, and so we set up everything there.

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<v Speaker 4>I looked at the footage today when I was editing it.

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<v Speaker 4>In we caught a fireball. I could not believe it, man,

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<v Speaker 4>And I mean it was like it you know, it

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<v Speaker 4>the tail on this thing was unbelievable. So right then

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<v Speaker 4>and there, we're like, oh my god. And then after

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<v Speaker 4>and we're looking around and we saw another shooting star.

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<v Speaker 4>So there is I mean, if you if you take

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And my UFO encounter with the those five orange orbs

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<v Speaker 4>back in twenty sixteen and then they disappeared. One of

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<v Speaker 4>the things in this new video which I think people

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<v Speaker 4>will like is we feature Bill Burns from UFO Hunters.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill is literally so great whenever he's on your show.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I get sopisode.

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<v Speaker 4>Came, Bill is awesome, man. Bill is just a wealth

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<v Speaker 4>I could literally say, now he's my next door neighbor.

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<v Speaker 4>He literally lives fifteen minutes from here. It's unbelievable. So

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<v Speaker 4>but Bill, what Bill was saying, which I thought was

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<v Speaker 4>really cool, is that we see these UFOs and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're not wing, they're not coming from vast distances. They're

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<v Speaker 4>blink They're winking in and out of time, right So there,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe they're they're moving. Time is moving through them, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're moving through the spaces in time, and then that's

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<v Speaker 4>why they're there. And then they blink out or they disappear.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just really I mean, you could go down

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<v Speaker 4>so many different rabbit holes with with the theories, but

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<v Speaker 4>that's I thought that was really fascinating and to kind

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<v Speaker 4>of think about it that way. One of the other

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<v Speaker 4>things we did too is we were we went down

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<v Speaker 4>to what they call the fuge, the Centrifuge over here

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<v Speaker 4>in Warminster, Pennsylvania, and it was an area where Neil Armstrong,

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<v Speaker 4>Buzz Aldrin, John Glenn they all trained at this facility.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there where they spin the spin which is like

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<v Speaker 4>That was. And I was inside this thing, man, it

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<v Speaker 4>was unbelievable. I'm not going around, but it's unplugged now.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, man, I would have paid as to say,

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<v Speaker 2>you're spinning around and nothing like James.

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<v Speaker 4>Bond for forty g's that thing could do.

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<v Speaker 3>Goodbye, mister, mister mantel.

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<v Speaker 4>God gone. So yeah, I mean, so this one's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of come out probably next week. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>the Bigfoot video that we just did in Jim Thorpe's

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<v Speaker 3>Here. Oh nice, No, I look forward to that. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>I might wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I will probably watch that with my daughter when she

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<v Speaker 2>gets back from her mum's on Sunday, because we love

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<v Speaker 2>watching watching your stuff together. We had a comment from

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<v Speaker 2>Horace Smith after your fireball I mentioned saying because he's

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<v Speaker 2>a he's a You might know who Horace is as well.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a good good friend of the show, a guest

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<v Speaker 2>on the show, good friend of mine. He's a professor

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<v Speaker 2>he says, my sky photo's always missed the fireballs, so

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<v Speaker 2>he's quite happy. I assume that you've got one. Speaking

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<v Speaker 2>of Horrace, I'll tell you a little horror story as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I was mentioning as as we were talking about last

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<v Speaker 2>week on Talking With and I just mentioned to you

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<v Speaker 2>beforehand and Sam and make a Friend I have talked

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<v Speaker 2>Ever since we went to the C five events at

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<v Speaker 2>sky that we quite frankly can't explain, like really weird things.

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<v Speaker 2>Last Saturday, so we did the Talking With on Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>and last Saturday we were outside looking at the skies

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<v Speaker 3>Incidentally, we've never just ever seen anything.

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<v Speaker 2>skies together for well over two years before that. But

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<v Speaker 2>we saw strange things. Lights coming together, weird lights like

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't satellites, moving in a staggering motion, changing direction, accelerating,

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of weird stuff. But we saw the most

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<v Speaker 2>spectacular thing we saw was this super bright light that

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<v Speaker 2>seemed smaller than the others, and it seemed to emit

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<v Speaker 2>a halo of gas or was going through a lower

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<v Speaker 2>with this rolling halo that blew out of it multiple times.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, as I do whenever I've seen anything strange, I

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<v Speaker 2>run it by horrors because again he's a professor.

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<v Speaker 3>Amors. If one of your good friends is a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Professor, and you know what, he found out what it was,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a Global Star had done a rocket launch.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the time it had done one you know,

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<v Speaker 2>rotation around the planet. It was almost exactly the time

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<v Speaker 2>we would have seen it because my girlfriend filmed it

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<v Speaker 2>and we had the time stamp, and we sent it

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<v Speaker 2>to Horrce and he said, yeah, I think you've seen

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<v Speaker 2>took him like, that's definitely it, so we could eliminate

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<v Speaker 2>the most spectacular thing we saw. It was a Global

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<v Speaker 2>Will also say we just can't figure out. I'm happy

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<v Speaker 2>if I can find the explanation for anything. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>it was a UFO. I'm like, no, well, now I

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<v Speaker 2>know it was. It's identified. It was a it was

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, a satellite rocket launch, I get.

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<v Speaker 4>going out, but yeah, that and then we've had so

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<v Speaker 4>many sightings here, man, it's unbelievable. I mean, the one

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<v Speaker 4>video that I got from the Gentleman right literally right

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<v Speaker 4>just that and then uh, you know, and then Starlink

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<v Speaker 4>satellites too are mistaken for UFOs as well. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>right time. I saw it, like it was like a

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<v Speaker 4>train of lights going in the sky. And as you know,

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<v Speaker 4>how it is going down to get the phone ready

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's I mean, it's always worth looking up though,

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<v Speaker 2>who listens or watches to this regularly notice I'm fairly

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<v Speaker 2>ever since that sea five of them, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the show aka flat Rockland, saying, hearing reports of Bigfoot

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<v Speaker 2>running uppills at a steady pace, almost gliding, almost hints

420
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<v Speaker 2>of them blinking in and out of this realm?

421
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<v Speaker 3>Do you have that approach sometimes?

422
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<v Speaker 2>Eric, do you like, are there things you hear and

423
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<v Speaker 2>you go, this sounds like it might be as paranormal

424
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<v Speaker 2>or as a ghost when you hear.

425
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<v Speaker 4>You know, And that's a good that's a good question too,

426
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<v Speaker 4>because or you know, a lot of people have seen bigfoot. Right,

427
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<v Speaker 4>it's there and then it's gone. Okay, So is that

428
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<v Speaker 4>we've said this before? Is it moving in and out

429
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<v Speaker 4>of reality? Is there? Is it moving again?

430
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<v Speaker 1>Like?

431
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<v Speaker 4>Is it a ghost? Could it be a ghost? That

432
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<v Speaker 4>was another thing that another bigfoot researcher in myself we're

433
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<v Speaker 4>talking about. He came up with this theory, could be

434
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<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot be a ghost, and uh, it's just fascinating. I

435
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<v Speaker 4>mean there's a lot of reports too, and a lot

436
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<v Speaker 4>of Bigfoot researchers don't want to go with the Bigfoot

437
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<v Speaker 4>UFO connection, but you know, that could be. There could

438
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<v Speaker 4>be a connection with that as well. Somebody also said,

439
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<v Speaker 4>you know how people, you know, you get the abduction reports, right,

440
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<v Speaker 4>and why couldn't aliens abduct Bigfoot, you know, and and

441
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<v Speaker 4>perform experiments and then when they drop it off they

442
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<v Speaker 4>see the UFO and Bigfoot, Right, that could be that

443
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<v Speaker 4>could be a connection as well. That's pretty out there.

444
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<v Speaker 4>But you know, who.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Knows, because there are particularly in the seventies said, well,

446
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<v Speaker 2>lots of account even Bigfoot walking out of sources, they

447
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<v Speaker 2>had stories in this is go write a book about

448
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<v Speaker 2>this back in the book.

449
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh I have that book. It's awesome. It's incredible.

450
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<v Speaker 4>And I know Stan, uh, incredible guy, just and he's

451
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<v Speaker 4>on it all the time. I mean since Kesburg he's

452
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<v Speaker 4>been just out there. I mean, this stuff Dean has

453
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<v Speaker 4>been going on for ages here. You know, these guys

454
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<v Speaker 4>remember the Alligash abductions in nineteen seventy six. Charlie Foltz

455
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<v Speaker 4>is still around. He lived well and I just talked

456
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<v Speaker 4>to him yesterday.

457
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<v Speaker 3>I went out, Did you mean on camera met him?

458
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<v Speaker 4>No? I met him last year when I spoke at

459
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<v Speaker 4>the Exeter UFO Festival in New Hampshire and I saw

460
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<v Speaker 4>his presentation and it was great to see his presentation

461
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<v Speaker 4>because I've always seen their account of the story on

462
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<v Speaker 4>unsolved Mysteries and things like that, but to hearing from

463
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<v Speaker 4>him was unbelievable. And this orb that they saw that

464
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<v Speaker 4>was just like a sun that came out at night

465
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<v Speaker 4>and came over these guys and took them up into

466
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<v Speaker 4>the craft. It's the same report. I don't know if

467
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<v Speaker 4>your listeners remember. It was maybe a couple maybe about

468
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<v Speaker 4>a year or so ago, two years ago, but it

469
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<v Speaker 4>just came out now. A police officer in Connecticut was

470
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<v Speaker 4>doing his his tour and he was up by this

471
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<v Speaker 4>reservoir in like mid Connecticut, I can't remember that, Middletown,

472
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<v Speaker 4>I think it was in Connecticut. And as he's driving

473
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<v Speaker 4>by this reservoir, the interior of his cruiser lit up

474
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<v Speaker 4>so bright, and he looked out and thirty feet away

475
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<v Speaker 4>is one of these huge red plasmoid type, and he

476
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<v Speaker 4>said he could not believe it. He's looking at this

477
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<v Speaker 4>thing and you know the light that's on the cruiser,

478
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<v Speaker 4>you know the flashlight. He flipped the flashlight on this thing,

479
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<v Speaker 4>and as he did that, this thing went from thirty

480
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<v Speaker 4>feet in a blink of an eye to over the

481
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<v Speaker 4>reservoir like half a mile away. And that's when he

482
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<v Speaker 4>said he snapped out of it and started taking a

483
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<v Speaker 4>video of this thing, and you could see this thing

484
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<v Speaker 4>in the middle of the reservoir just kind of floating

485
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<v Speaker 4>and going.

486
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<v Speaker 3>How long ago? Sorry, Eric, did you say, it's.

487
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<v Speaker 4>Just the report that he was just on NewsNation just

488
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<v Speaker 4>not too long ago, maybe about a year. It came

489
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<v Speaker 4>out in two, I think two years ago, and you

490
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<v Speaker 4>just made the report now exactly.

491
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<v Speaker 2>I'm fascinated with And he did you say he was

492
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<v Speaker 2>a police or sheriff for police off, Yeah, Sam and

493
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<v Speaker 2>I recently shot an episode of home movie Legendary, which

494
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<v Speaker 2>you'll be not the next one we released.

495
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<v Speaker 3>We're about to release one on the Lake Peppin Monster, but.

496
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<v Speaker 2>We shot one in Elmwood, Wisconsin, which some people call

497
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<v Speaker 2>the UFO Capital of the World, and some of the

498
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<v Speaker 2>most famous sidings there were by a police officer, and

499
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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting. It also brings to mind like the Loni

500
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<v Speaker 2>Zamora Soicoro, New Mexico siding, like these sidings where police officers.

501
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<v Speaker 3>On judy have an experience.

502
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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean that I think police officers are necessarily

503
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<v Speaker 2>more honest than anybody else, But when you're prepared to

504
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<v Speaker 2>make an actual statement as a police officer that you've

505
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:53.440
<v Speaker 2>encountered this and you're trained to observe things, and there

506
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<v Speaker 2>seems to be for whatever reason, those reports seem to

507
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<v Speaker 2>ring with more of a than any other reports. When

508
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<v Speaker 2>when a police officer or you know, a pilot or somebody.

509
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<v Speaker 3>Who has the most to lose by making a claim.

510
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<v Speaker 4>Exactly, Yeah, you're right. And that's the thing too. We

511
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<v Speaker 4>when we just did this bigfoot video in jim Thorpe,

512
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<v Speaker 4>we were at Machunk Lake and jim Thorpe where they've

513
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<v Speaker 4>been having these sightings. We actually had a police officer

514
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<v Speaker 4>who's also a bigfoot researcher with us and he's he's

515
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<v Speaker 4>on camera talking about his research and the reports that

516
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<v Speaker 4>he's been getting in that area. Again that go back decades,

517
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<v Speaker 4>so we're gonna wind up going back there. I think

518
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<v Speaker 4>in the spring because there is another report. This was

519
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:44.160
<v Speaker 4>dean this, you can't write this stuff. This was unbelievable.

520
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:46.920
<v Speaker 4>So the night of the investigation, we're out in the

521
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<v Speaker 4>middle of nowhere and all of a sudden we look

522
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<v Speaker 4>over there's a guy walking up the trail with his

523
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<v Speaker 4>cell phone in hand, looking for us. He was looking

524
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<v Speaker 4>for us. He wanted to show us this bigfoot footage

525
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:06.160
<v Speaker 4>that he got over this these ear How the hell

526
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 4>did you find us? How did you know that we

527
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:10.160
<v Speaker 4>were going to be out here? And he's said, well,

528
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.559
<v Speaker 4>there was a newspaper story that came out earlier in

529
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<v Speaker 4>the day and he happened to pick the paper up

530
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<v Speaker 4>and that that buzz created and he was on a

531
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 4>mission to find us. And I'm glad he did because

532
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:24.200
<v Speaker 4>he was a great guy and his photos were unbelievable.

533
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<v Speaker 4>These tracks that he had in the snow that had

534
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:31.039
<v Speaker 4>like six foot strides between them, it was unbelievable.

535
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

536
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<v Speaker 4>So it was really cool. So he's in the video too.

537
00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.359
<v Speaker 4>It was kind of like an unexpected surprise, but it

538
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:39.720
<v Speaker 4>was incredible. We were also in an area that the

539
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:44.599
<v Speaker 4>park rangers had said when we were down there, they're like, oh, yeah,

540
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<v Speaker 4>by the way, there's a five hundred pound bear hanging

541
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 4>around out here. He likes to come down this trail.

542
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.359
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, oh great, thank god I brought my bull

543
00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:57.119
<v Speaker 4>whip with me. But not that that's going to do anything.

544
00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:59.799
<v Speaker 4>But no, that it's a it's a great video. And man,

545
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<v Speaker 4>I'll it's uh again. I always go at the end

546
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:07.839
<v Speaker 4>of the day, people are seeing and experiencing something. You know.

547
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<v Speaker 2>That's an interesting question I have and I have a

548
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<v Speaker 2>question from a listener in a minute of viewer in

549
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<v Speaker 2>a minute as well. But when you're out, because these

550
00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:18.119
<v Speaker 2>are some hairy places you go, do you take ever

551
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:21.640
<v Speaker 2>like bear spray or firearms or anything forget about for

552
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:24.240
<v Speaker 2>the bigfoot, for the like for the bear, or for

553
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<v Speaker 2>the human predator or anything like that.

554
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know what, Dean, that's You're right. I should

555
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:31.400
<v Speaker 4>be doing that, and I don't, and I should do

556
00:28:31.480 --> 00:28:33.359
<v Speaker 4>that from now on. I know I'm stupid when it

557
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.079
<v Speaker 4>comes to that, you know, especially when we did the

558
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<v Speaker 4>Beast of Bray Road, you know, investigation. We had nothing.

559
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:43.359
<v Speaker 4>We had nothing but a flashlight or radio, you know,

560
00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:46.880
<v Speaker 4>and not thinking anything that we'd run into anything, and

561
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.680
<v Speaker 4>of course what happened. We actually ran into the creature

562
00:28:49.759 --> 00:28:50.319
<v Speaker 4>that night.

563
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<v Speaker 3>We have speaking of Gray Road just quickly.

564
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we have a question about it, So I'll throw

565
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<v Speaker 2>I'll use that to segue and then I'll throw it

566
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<v Speaker 2>back to you for you to say whatever you want

567
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<v Speaker 2>to about about maybe being next time ago that Lee

568
00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.839
<v Speaker 2>Hample's farm has had entities.

569
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:06.960
<v Speaker 3>That seem to be paranormal.

570
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:09.799
<v Speaker 2>And there was also a question also from spring Hill

571
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:12.559
<v Speaker 2>Jack Water who said, Eric, have you been back to

572
00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:13.559
<v Speaker 2>Lee Hample's farm?

573
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Great, and Lee is awesome. I don't know if

574
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 4>you've had Lee as a guest on your show, but

575
00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:26.000
<v Speaker 4>I show Lee's great. We haven't been back since twenty

576
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:30.000
<v Speaker 4>twenty two. We did a follow up investigation six months

577
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.240
<v Speaker 4>after the initial one, from October second through the fourth

578
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:36.839
<v Speaker 4>of twenty twenty one. We went back six months later

579
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:39.799
<v Speaker 4>and it was great. We had you know, we didn't

580
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:42.559
<v Speaker 4>encounter the creature that time, but we did go and

581
00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.119
<v Speaker 4>have a town hall meeting at the local library there

582
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 4>and we had over one hundred and forty people showed

583
00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:51.720
<v Speaker 4>up to tell their story about seeing this creature, describing

584
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:55.759
<v Speaker 4>the same thing. But we are planning on going back.

585
00:29:56.759 --> 00:30:00.359
<v Speaker 4>We were given permission to explore the extra one hundred

586
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:03.359
<v Speaker 4>and eighty five acres that's out there. So Dean, will

587
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:05.000
<v Speaker 4>we get out there? Man, I'm going to give you

588
00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:08.079
<v Speaker 4>a call. Man, you should We may need back up

589
00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:08.599
<v Speaker 4>on this one.

590
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<v Speaker 2>Well, funnily enough, that was our the first home movie

591
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:16.359
<v Speaker 2>Legendship myself and Sam shot was was based to bray

592
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Road episode. Well, it's a fascinating part of the world.

593
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<v Speaker 2>It's very strange. It's a very strange part of the world.

594
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<v Speaker 4>And it is. And to answer his questions about things

595
00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:28.559
<v Speaker 4>being paranormal there, we think there's a there. We think

596
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:30.680
<v Speaker 4>there's a portal there, you know, and you know the

597
00:30:30.759 --> 00:30:34.079
<v Speaker 4>lay lines and stuff that are on the earth, there's

598
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:36.920
<v Speaker 4>an area there on that farm. I think that that

599
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:40.440
<v Speaker 4>is what's happening there because and the only reason I

600
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<v Speaker 4>say that earlier during the first investigation, Scott our cameraman

601
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<v Speaker 4>and drone operator. He builds these incredible high end drones

602
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:51.839
<v Speaker 4>and he was flying a drone over while we were

603
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<v Speaker 4>doing a little reconnaissance in the area. Lee was showing

604
00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:58.240
<v Speaker 4>us where this all this stuff is happening. As we're

605
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<v Speaker 4>going across the field into what we call the bait

606
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.720
<v Speaker 4>area over in that field, in this big thirty five

607
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:09.000
<v Speaker 4>acre hayfield we actually disappeared off of Scott's screen when

608
00:31:09.039 --> 00:31:11.279
<v Speaker 4>he wears you know, you've got to wear virtual reality

609
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:16.200
<v Speaker 4>glasses here, we as a group completely disappeared in this area.

610
00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.000
<v Speaker 4>He took the glasses off. We were still there, but

611
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:23.799
<v Speaker 4>digitally somehow we disappeared in that So something was messing

612
00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:27.119
<v Speaker 4>with the electronics in that area, because later on that night,

613
00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:30.960
<v Speaker 4>Scott was also trying to connect the go pros and

614
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 4>that wasn't working either. So the night of the investigation,

615
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:38.359
<v Speaker 4>none of Lee's trail camps got anything. On the trail camp,

616
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:41.839
<v Speaker 4>Scott didn't get any go pro footage, but we were

617
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<v Speaker 4>able to get the howl and we saw the eyeshine

618
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.039
<v Speaker 4>and the weird mist that came up and then all

619
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 4>of us, you know, and then I had I don't

620
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.240
<v Speaker 4>know I told you this, but you know, I never

621
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<v Speaker 4>really listened to those howls on headphones, only just maybe

622
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:01.359
<v Speaker 4>about a year ago, and I was shocked. On the

623
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:03.519
<v Speaker 4>there was a series of howls. There was three howls.

624
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:07.720
<v Speaker 4>On the second howl, we actually heard a growl happening

625
00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:12.400
<v Speaker 4>behind us, and Dominic was hearing all this rustling sounds

626
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:15.960
<v Speaker 4>going on. So I didn't realize how dangerous of a situation.

627
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:20.200
<v Speaker 4>We really were in and blissfully unaware, and then we

628
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:21.799
<v Speaker 4>heard that third howl and that was it.

629
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Man.

630
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:23.920
<v Speaker 4>We were like, well, And then what got us out

631
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:26.359
<v Speaker 4>of there was when Dominic says, shine the light over

632
00:32:26.359 --> 00:32:28.319
<v Speaker 4>to where we heard the howl, and there, about one

633
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.400
<v Speaker 4>hundred ft one hundred yards away, you could see eyes

634
00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:35.720
<v Speaker 4>eyeshine going like this in the corn, like six or

635
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:38.559
<v Speaker 4>seven feet up in the corn. So something was there,

636
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:41.799
<v Speaker 4>and that told me we got to get the hell

637
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:45.440
<v Speaker 4>out of here. It's telling us that this is its territory.

638
00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.720
<v Speaker 4>Get out of here. But you know, Lee's getting all

639
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:51.039
<v Speaker 4>kinds of other stuff on the property. He's getting orbs,

640
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:55.279
<v Speaker 4>these weird UFO lights going through the woods out there.

641
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:58.839
<v Speaker 4>And when I saw these lights, they were smoothly going

642
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.559
<v Speaker 4>through the woods right, And at first I thought, well,

643
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:04.839
<v Speaker 4>maybe maybe it was like you know, all terrain vehicles,

644
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:09.759
<v Speaker 4>you know ATV's four wheelers stuff like that, and because

645
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:12.359
<v Speaker 4>it kind of looked like that. But then it's the

646
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:14.559
<v Speaker 4>difference of seeing and you know how this is. You

647
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.920
<v Speaker 4>see a video, you're sitting there watching a video, but

648
00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 4>it's a whole different thing to be on site in

649
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:24.599
<v Speaker 4>those woods and know there's no way that could be

650
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:29.079
<v Speaker 4>anything like that because the trees were so dense in there,

651
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.039
<v Speaker 4>you'd have to move every second to get around the stuff.

652
00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:35.599
<v Speaker 4>And this was just gliding very smoothly through the woods.

653
00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:38.599
<v Speaker 4>And you know, it's one thing you could fake lights

654
00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 4>in the sky, but going through the woods, that's a

655
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:41.880
<v Speaker 4>whole different.

656
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:42.799
<v Speaker 3>Story, indeed.

657
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:46.000
<v Speaker 4>But it was. It was amazing. Man. So all that footage,

658
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.440
<v Speaker 4>Lee's got the orbs, these wee these even got like

659
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.680
<v Speaker 4>a terodactyl, a picture of a pterodactyl on the property.

660
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:57.279
<v Speaker 4>It's nuts, man, It's crazy. So so yeah, we want

661
00:33:57.319 --> 00:33:59.640
<v Speaker 4>to get back there because Lee is such a great guy.

662
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:04.880
<v Speaker 4>Him and his brother Fred just really great, incredible people. Man.

663
00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Let me let me know, because as I said, Sam

664
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 2>and I did the first home movie Legend Tip. The

665
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:12.320
<v Speaker 2>first one was The Beast of Bray Road. We'll come

666
00:34:12.360 --> 00:34:15.480
<v Speaker 2>down to do part two and we'll put no I'd

667
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:16.400
<v Speaker 2>love to put you in it.

668
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:18.239
<v Speaker 3>I'd love to put Lee in it as well. And

669
00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:21.000
<v Speaker 3>we go. We have a comment. I didn't know it

670
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 3>was probably Steve Ward. I'm guessing spring Hill. Jack Ward

671
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:25.320
<v Speaker 3>is Steve Ward, a very good friend of mine.

672
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>And he said, yes, leave Eric were on my show

673
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:29.760
<v Speaker 2>The Highestrangest Fact is such a great show.

674
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:33.079
<v Speaker 4>Steve's great. Just Steve is so great, you just ask him.

675
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:36.760
<v Speaker 3>He's one of the real gentlemen.

676
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.280
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that he made a funny joke before,

677
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:40.880
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, this is a troll. But he obviously

678
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:42.440
<v Speaker 2>knew you and was making a gag, so I didn't

679
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:43.320
<v Speaker 2>put it up on screen.

680
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:46.400
<v Speaker 4>But Steve, Steve's awesome, Steve.

681
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:46.760
<v Speaker 3>I love.

682
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:49.440
<v Speaker 4>Actually Steve and I met, believe it or not.

683
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:51.440
<v Speaker 3>On Bray Road town.

684
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:56.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Me Dominic and Ellen Ellen Collins, who was the

685
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:59.079
<v Speaker 4>reason why we were all there. So we're on Bray

686
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:01.719
<v Speaker 4>Road and one of the things with Bray Road is

687
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.159
<v Speaker 4>that people are saying you can't park on Bray Road.

688
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:06.880
<v Speaker 4>The cops will tell you to get off the road.

689
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:11.199
<v Speaker 4>We were there three hours. No one told us. Ashley,

690
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:14.159
<v Speaker 4>a police officer came up and said, what are you

691
00:35:14.159 --> 00:35:16.840
<v Speaker 4>guys doing. I said, we're doing a We're doing a

692
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:20.760
<v Speaker 4>Beast Bray Road video documentary and uh, He's like, oh,

693
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:22.360
<v Speaker 4>I have fun. And I said, well, have you had

694
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.320
<v Speaker 4>any any encounters? He said, now, but have a great night.

695
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:29.199
<v Speaker 4>Any Nobody bothered us, So it was It was incredible

696
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:31.920
<v Speaker 4>and that's where I met Steve though. So Steve was there,

697
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:35.719
<v Speaker 4>he was walking up and down Bray Road and so yeah,

698
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:38.400
<v Speaker 4>so we could literally say that we met on Bray Road.

699
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:41.119
<v Speaker 3>As only Steve would woke up and down Bray Road.

700
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:47.960
<v Speaker 4>And Steve, well, then Steve. I always have to thank

701
00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:51.199
<v Speaker 4>Steve because uh, he got me in to speak at

702
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 4>the Mothman Festival a couple of years ago. That was

703
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:54.280
<v Speaker 4>a lot of fun.

704
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:57.599
<v Speaker 2>I cannot imagine I got to get to the Mothman

705
00:35:57.800 --> 00:35:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Fest one of these yees.

706
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:03.559
<v Speaker 4>God. I there in twenty twenty four, and I'll tell you, man,

707
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:06.960
<v Speaker 4>there was a mile long line of people waiting to

708
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:10.599
<v Speaker 4>get into the Mothmaan Museum in Treble. I sold a

709
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.760
<v Speaker 4>ton of books that day. I hung out with the

710
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:15.280
<v Speaker 4>guys from Mountain Monsters too.

711
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I was about to say, that's where I want to

712
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.199
<v Speaker 2>go because that sounds up. Malasia are going to be

713
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:21.119
<v Speaker 2>there this year or something. I'm like, I should take

714
00:36:21.119 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 2>my daughter because.

715
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:22.280
<v Speaker 3>We love that.

716
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:25.079
<v Speaker 4>Those guys are awesome. Man. I hung out with Jeff

717
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Jeff row.

718
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Wow and will go to be jealous.

719
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:30.679
<v Speaker 4>And then when I was when I was heading home

720
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:34.159
<v Speaker 4>the next day, I was leaving the hotel who It's

721
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:36.880
<v Speaker 4>a foggy morning, right, and who do I see coming

722
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:40.519
<v Speaker 4>through the mist? But Wild Bill, I'll get out of town.

723
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:47.559
<v Speaker 3>Really, go Bill, I really, Oh my gosh, you know what.

724
00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:53.599
<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest and this maybe shows my my Juno mindset,

725
00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:59.519
<v Speaker 2>but Mountain Monsters would be my top five paranormal shows

726
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:01.519
<v Speaker 2>of all time. My daughter and I love it. My

727
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:03.719
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend has to suffer it because she'll come over and

728
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:06.519
<v Speaker 2>we'll be marathoning it. And Sam has to just sit

729
00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:07.599
<v Speaker 2>there and watch Mountain Monts.

730
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:10.320
<v Speaker 4>There was nothing like when Trapper was on the show.

731
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:13.719
<v Speaker 4>Though on the show, Trapper had some of the greatest

732
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 4>one liners. Man, it was just unbelievable. He was a great,

733
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:20.760
<v Speaker 4>great guy and very I mean he's sorely missed by

734
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.440
<v Speaker 4>a lot of the fans, you know. And but yeah, no,

735
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:26.079
<v Speaker 4>it's a great show. Those guys are awesome. And I'm

736
00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:28.239
<v Speaker 4>actually trying to see if I could get Jeff and

737
00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 4>Willie and maybe some of those guys Huckleberry and maybe

738
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:33.280
<v Speaker 4>Wild built to one of my conventions.

739
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.639
<v Speaker 2>You should, because they do cons I know, I wish

740
00:37:36.719 --> 00:37:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I knew the backstory, just because I'm curious, But I

741
00:37:39.079 --> 00:37:42.880
<v Speaker 2>know that that Willy and Jeff Row have their own

742
00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:48.360
<v Speaker 2>show now, and wild Bill and Buck and Huckleberry have there.

743
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:50.519
<v Speaker 2>So there's been I don't know if there's any animosity,

744
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.079
<v Speaker 2>but there seems to have been a split and three

745
00:37:52.119 --> 00:37:53.679
<v Speaker 2>of them are doing one show and two of them

746
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:55.000
<v Speaker 2>are doing a different show.

747
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:58.039
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, now those guys are awesome. Yeah, they're great.

748
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:00.880
<v Speaker 4>And I mean, and you know, talk to those guys too.

749
00:38:01.199 --> 00:38:03.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, I thought, Okay, the show is a little

750
00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:05.599
<v Speaker 4>on the humorous side too, but these guys are really

751
00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:07.519
<v Speaker 4>serious when it comes to the research, you know, and

752
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.679
<v Speaker 4>what they're doing. So it's uh, and they've they've jumped,

753
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:13.039
<v Speaker 4>they've come up on some things that you know, they

754
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:15.119
<v Speaker 4>can't explain. So it's really really wild.

755
00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Now Matt Auckland wants to visit with us. When you

756
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:20.800
<v Speaker 2>come down. He says, where is Lee's Farm? He'll be

757
00:38:20.840 --> 00:38:22.000
<v Speaker 2>willing to come and be the bait.

758
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.599
<v Speaker 4>There you go, Matt, there, there you go. Lee's Farms

759
00:38:25.599 --> 00:38:26.800
<v Speaker 4>in Elkhorn, Wisconsin.

760
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.039
<v Speaker 2>So just behind Bray Road, like it just kind of

761
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:32.679
<v Speaker 2>is you have to kind of go around to get

762
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:32.960
<v Speaker 2>to it.

763
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:35.480
<v Speaker 3>It's just the actual strip right.

764
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:39.239
<v Speaker 4>And it's incredible property too, you know, And I made

765
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:42.719
<v Speaker 4>the mistake, you know, that day when we were doing

766
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:46.039
<v Speaker 4>the reconnaissance earlier in the day, I wound up baiting

767
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 4>that area with steak bones the night that we had

768
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.320
<v Speaker 4>the night before and all day and all day and

769
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.960
<v Speaker 4>into the night. I'm thinking, hmm, I'm wondering if that

770
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:58.559
<v Speaker 4>was a good or bad idea and it was a

771
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 4>crazy investigation Dean, I'll tell you, man, that was just

772
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:03.280
<v Speaker 4>it changed my whole perspective on what's out there.

773
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I've watched the episodes. They're really good. They're staggering accurately.

774
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.159
<v Speaker 2>We have a question from Horrorce for you, man. We're

775
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:11.639
<v Speaker 2>gonna be talking about your book. We're gonna have to

776
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:13.800
<v Speaker 2>segue there in a minute because we're meant to be

777
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:16.159
<v Speaker 2>in the Poconos and we're stuck in We're stuck in

778
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 2>in wis concept Horror Smith, who I mentioned before, good

779
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:22.320
<v Speaker 2>friend the show. Professor Emorus of astronomy and physics at

780
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Michigan State University asks you did your crew Eric have

781
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:29.079
<v Speaker 2>jewel cameras to try to verify odd things that are

782
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:32.159
<v Speaker 2>seen from different cameras. It may be tough to do

783
00:39:32.199 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 2>that in practice, but I know horror is an astronomer

784
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.239
<v Speaker 2>is thinking if you can maybe triangulate or something with different.

785
00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that would be you know, when you don't have

786
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:42.920
<v Speaker 4>a huge television crew budget kind of thing, you know,

787
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:45.639
<v Speaker 4>you're kind of down to one person on one camera.

788
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:48.599
<v Speaker 4>So that's kind of what we're dealing with right now.

789
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:51.239
<v Speaker 4>As much as I love that, it's always good to

790
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:54.800
<v Speaker 4>have two cameras, but now what we've been doing, if

791
00:39:54.800 --> 00:39:58.000
<v Speaker 4>we're doing like a ghost investigation or even like a

792
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:02.800
<v Speaker 4>cryptid investigation, now I'm having Dominic on his on his

793
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:07.440
<v Speaker 4>camera walking around getting his testimony, what he's dealing with

794
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:10.599
<v Speaker 4>and what he's feeling and sensing, and then I'm adding

795
00:40:10.679 --> 00:40:12.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm adding that into the videos as well.

796
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:13.119
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

797
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:16.880
<v Speaker 4>We just did the Jim Thorpe Visitor Center last week

798
00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:20.719
<v Speaker 4>and my god man, we had so much crazy activity there.

799
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:25.079
<v Speaker 4>Dominic was going up the stairs and as they're going

800
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:29.119
<v Speaker 4>up the stairs, Aboard literally falls right in their way

801
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:33.679
<v Speaker 4>of them going up the stairs. Where this was the

802
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:35.199
<v Speaker 4>Jim Thorpe Visitor Center.

803
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:36.440
<v Speaker 3>But where whereabouts is.

804
00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:40.400
<v Speaker 4>That one in Pennsylvania in the Poconos? Gotcha in the Poconoes.

805
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:42.960
<v Speaker 4>It's it's a town called jim Thorpe. It's a great

806
00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:48.880
<v Speaker 4>area named after Jim Thorpe. The the athlete and but yeah,

807
00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:50.599
<v Speaker 4>so this was a crazy and a piece of wood

808
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:53.920
<v Speaker 4>came down, dropped over. It was almost like no, you

809
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:57.320
<v Speaker 4>can't come up this up these stairs. So and we

810
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:01.159
<v Speaker 4>were joined by another medium that night, Michelle Gallagher, and

811
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:03.880
<v Speaker 4>she's been on a couple of investigations with us before.

812
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:06.599
<v Speaker 4>She actually owns in jim Thorpe owns a place called

813
00:41:06.639 --> 00:41:09.800
<v Speaker 4>the Dimmick House. It's a bed and breakfast. We did

814
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:12.199
<v Speaker 4>a Dean This is another thing we did. I mean

815
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 4>I've never done this before and we did it. We

816
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:18.679
<v Speaker 4>did a seance at this house at a house and

817
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.679
<v Speaker 4>we were all sitting at the table and people could

818
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:24.159
<v Speaker 4>see this video. It's called Eric ben Tell investigates the

819
00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:28.280
<v Speaker 4>Spirits of the Dimmick House. And at the end there

820
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:31.599
<v Speaker 4>we have the candle burning. All of a sudden, Michelle

821
00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:35.119
<v Speaker 4>is talking about the owner of the previous owner and

822
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:38.599
<v Speaker 4>with that boom, a big flame shoots out from the candle.

823
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:43.880
<v Speaker 4>And then Kate was there with us as well. She's

824
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:46.719
<v Speaker 4>talking about the previous owner and she says, John, if

825
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:49.199
<v Speaker 4>you're here, show us a sign. And you could see

826
00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:51.280
<v Speaker 4>all of our hands are on the table. There's a

827
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:53.639
<v Speaker 4>big long shot of us. You could see no one

828
00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:56.280
<v Speaker 4>else is in the house, no one's outside. Middle of

829
00:41:56.320 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 4>the night, and you hear knocking your knocks and I

830
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:04.679
<v Speaker 4>heard one knock on the thing. But then in post

831
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:06.920
<v Speaker 4>I turned up the volume a little bit more to

832
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:10.039
<v Speaker 4>see if there was anything out there. Four or five

833
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:13.280
<v Speaker 4>knocks right after wow, and you could hear that, and

834
00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.920
<v Speaker 4>you could see us all reacting to what the hell

835
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:18.559
<v Speaker 4>did we just hear? So something was there. So that

836
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:21.920
<v Speaker 4>was something. And all night during that seance at the

837
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 4>end there we kept hearing things coming through the living room.

838
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:30.039
<v Speaker 4>Stuff was moving around, all this rustling. It was just crazy.

839
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:32.639
<v Speaker 4>And and then we of course at the end of that,

840
00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:35.360
<v Speaker 4>people say, but are you afraid of things coming home

841
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 4>with you? We Dominic sets the boundaries before we do that,

842
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:42.199
<v Speaker 4>and so did Michelle sets these boundaries and then all

843
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:44.639
<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, just you know, that's it closes it down,

844
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:48.480
<v Speaker 4>and that was it. But that was an incredible investigation too.

845
00:42:48.639 --> 00:42:52.039
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I was more on the early on.

846
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:54.360
<v Speaker 4>I was really more on the fence and on this

847
00:42:54.519 --> 00:42:56.719
<v Speaker 4>more on the skeptical side when it came to the ghosts.

848
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.000
<v Speaker 4>But now having done these videos and captured what were

849
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:03.320
<v Speaker 4>capturing on video, I'm like, what, there's a real thin

850
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:06.559
<v Speaker 4>veil from here to there, and you know, we're capturing

851
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.800
<v Speaker 4>this stuff and people are sensing this, and I also

852
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:15.880
<v Speaker 4>think that people are connected to the spirit world UFO's bigfoot. I.

853
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:20.239
<v Speaker 4>Whenever we're on these investigations, I eventually I inevitably say

854
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 4>to people, you know, have you ever had any paranormal

855
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:28.320
<v Speaker 4>experiences in your own personal life besides being here at

856
00:43:28.320 --> 00:43:31.840
<v Speaker 4>this location? And ninety nine percent of the time they're like, yes,

857
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:32.119
<v Speaker 4>I have.

858
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:34.920
<v Speaker 3>That's a good question, that's a very good question.

859
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:38.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So it's a connection. It's it's incredible.

860
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:43.880
<v Speaker 2>And do you think I mean, given that you've you've

861
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 2>just released this book, and given of all the investigations

862
00:43:48.039 --> 00:43:49.559
<v Speaker 2>that you've done in this part of the world, do

863
00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 2>you think it's maybe what kil would call a window

864
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.360
<v Speaker 2>area or is this something about the Poconos that you

865
00:43:55.400 --> 00:44:00.960
<v Speaker 2>think is particularly draws these kind of experience inswers or

866
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:05.920
<v Speaker 2>these manifestations. Is there is there something either geologically or

867
00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:07.599
<v Speaker 2>orally or.

868
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 4>That's a great question. Geologically, yes, Uh, lots of granite,

869
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:15.800
<v Speaker 4>lots of granite in there is a lot of limestone

870
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:18.960
<v Speaker 4>in that area as well. Limestone, for some reason is

871
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.320
<v Speaker 4>a conductor for these for these things, right, But that's

872
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:26.800
<v Speaker 4>that was one idea. But also it's a very very

873
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:30.800
<v Speaker 4>spiritual area, very much Native American Lenape tribe was there,

874
00:44:31.840 --> 00:44:35.400
<v Speaker 4>so very very spiritual in that respect. You know, we've

875
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:39.320
<v Speaker 4>we've the Shawnee Indians have been there. You know, that's

876
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:42.119
<v Speaker 4>why we you know, they have all these different places,

877
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.719
<v Speaker 4>the Shawnee Inn, the Shawnee Playhouse, that's all of these

878
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 4>places that we've investigated, and a lot of times Dominic

879
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:53.920
<v Speaker 4>will definitely tune in on those Native American spirits and

880
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:58.199
<v Speaker 4>people will see Native Americans in some of these spirit

881
00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:02.119
<v Speaker 4>forms in these locations. So yeah, it's a very very

882
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:05.320
<v Speaker 4>highly rich spiritual area.

883
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Do you and it is the book do you consider

884
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:13.440
<v Speaker 2>like a companion piece to the show? Like is it

885
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:15.679
<v Speaker 2>is it? Does it fill in some of the gaps

886
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:17.679
<v Speaker 2>that you don't have the time to do in a

887
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:18.599
<v Speaker 2>television show.

888
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:22.880
<v Speaker 4>It does? Yeah, it's like it's like it exactly like

889
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:27.280
<v Speaker 4>a companion to the show. And so obviously we were

890
00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:29.760
<v Speaker 4>doing the video and then it's a book about the

891
00:45:29.800 --> 00:45:34.079
<v Speaker 4>anecdotes of that of that particular investigation, and you know,

892
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:37.280
<v Speaker 4>so yeah, we chronicled all of the different investigations and

893
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:41.000
<v Speaker 4>I got up I think I got up to fifteen investigations,

894
00:45:41.039 --> 00:45:45.320
<v Speaker 4>so fifteen chapters. Yeah, and then we're going to do

895
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:47.800
<v Speaker 4>another one. I'll do volume two next year. When we

896
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:51.239
<v Speaker 4>do this next season, the new season coming up is

897
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:53.239
<v Speaker 4>going to be unbelievable. We've got we're going to be

898
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:56.960
<v Speaker 4>doing more cryptids. We're going to be doing another Bigfoot

899
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:02.440
<v Speaker 4>investigation up in Jim Thwart Machunk Lake. Again. This report

900
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:05.000
<v Speaker 4>that this guy to the name of Will Yerger and

901
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:09.400
<v Speaker 4>a really great guy. He's a new father. This guy

902
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:12.440
<v Speaker 4>has got nothing to gain at all by this story,

903
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:15.719
<v Speaker 4>but this is something profound that happened to him, and

904
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:18.079
<v Speaker 4>he wanted to tell the story. And look, Dean, you

905
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:20.960
<v Speaker 4>know and you know this too, we're good at discerning

906
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:22.880
<v Speaker 4>the truth from the bs, right, you know when people

907
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:25.400
<v Speaker 4>are talking and I feel like, you know, it's like

908
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:28.960
<v Speaker 4>a when you're interviewing witnesses and they're having this this

909
00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:31.599
<v Speaker 4>hard time coming up with him getting goosebumps and they're

910
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:35.639
<v Speaker 4>having this something profoundly happened to them, right, right, And

911
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:38.679
<v Speaker 4>then to show the photographic evidence that he was able

912
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.960
<v Speaker 4>to get as well, so really interesting stuff. So he

913
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:45.239
<v Speaker 4>was you know, he was a great witness and I

914
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:46.960
<v Speaker 4>can't wait for this new episode to come out. But

915
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:48.239
<v Speaker 4>we're going to do more. We're going to do a

916
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:51.039
<v Speaker 4>follow up on that. A woman reached out to me

917
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:54.719
<v Speaker 4>who's been having activity on her horse farm for over

918
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:59.599
<v Speaker 4>thirty years. So this ties into another report that happened

919
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:02.800
<v Speaker 4>in the Earth nineties up there. So you know, people

920
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:04.760
<v Speaker 4>might think, what what is Bigfoot doing here on the

921
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:06.639
<v Speaker 4>East coast? You know, he was I thought he was

922
00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:10.880
<v Speaker 4>on the West Coast. But I think Bigfoot sightings have

923
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:14.800
<v Speaker 4>been more per capita on the East Coast than they

924
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:17.880
<v Speaker 4>have in the West Coast, only because on the West

925
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 4>Coast you've got a lot of areas that are not populated, right,

926
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:24.639
<v Speaker 4>so you know you're not going to get those reports.

927
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:27.639
<v Speaker 4>You may get the one straight you know, the standard

928
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.400
<v Speaker 4>report of somebody seeing that. But why you're getting so

929
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:33.639
<v Speaker 4>many reports out here is because it's more populated, absolutely,

930
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:36.199
<v Speaker 4>you know, and you're seeing and people are having this,

931
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:37.599
<v Speaker 4>So I think they're all over the country.

932
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:41.239
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean that seems to be the be the case.

933
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Steve Ward made another great comment in response to your

934
00:47:46.199 --> 00:47:48.159
<v Speaker 2>when we were talking about how great your questions were

935
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:50.400
<v Speaker 2>about if people have had other strange experiences. And I

936
00:47:50.440 --> 00:47:52.280
<v Speaker 2>thought about it funnily enough when you said it. But

937
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Steve's points worth rating for people who are only listening

938
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:59.159
<v Speaker 2>to the show. Steve Ward says, John Keele found that

939
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:02.559
<v Speaker 2>even the vidual has a UFO or cryptid experience, they

940
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:06.000
<v Speaker 2>likely have had paranormal experiences all their lives. So it's

941
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:08.239
<v Speaker 2>this repeat kind of experiencer.

942
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:12.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, totally agree. I mean, you know, the other thing

943
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:17.880
<v Speaker 4>is too. The other theory was sometimes could we as

944
00:48:17.960 --> 00:48:22.960
<v Speaker 4>human beings be creating the paranormal? Could we manifesting that? Right?

945
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:26.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, I think I think that's likely.

946
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a there's a co creation element at

947
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:34.440
<v Speaker 2>the very least, there's somehow we aren't separate from what

948
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.480
<v Speaker 2>we're experiencing. And that doesn't mean there isn't a genuine

949
00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:45.039
<v Speaker 2>anomalous external intelligence or external phenomenon to us, but I

950
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:50.199
<v Speaker 2>think we're far more connected to it than traditional beliefs

951
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:53.320
<v Speaker 2>have led us to to think totally.

952
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:57.119
<v Speaker 4>And there's just I mean, there's so many things now.

953
00:48:57.320 --> 00:49:02.079
<v Speaker 4>I was reached out about maybe about a month two

954
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:04.639
<v Speaker 4>months ago, and we're gonna still do something with this

955
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:09.079
<v Speaker 4>gentleman he called me from Massachusetts. He said there's a

956
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:12.559
<v Speaker 4>lot of weird UFO stuff going on up in Massachusetts,

957
00:49:13.039 --> 00:49:16.519
<v Speaker 4>a lot of it. He's been having abduction experiences since

958
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:19.719
<v Speaker 4>he's been nine years old, and he wants to be

959
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:23.000
<v Speaker 4>regressed and wants to find out what is what's going

960
00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 4>on with him. And I talked to him and he's

961
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.119
<v Speaker 4>a great guy. Talked to him and he sent me pictures.

962
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:33.199
<v Speaker 4>He just he's a sweet fifty seven Chevy that just

963
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:36.199
<v Speaker 4>won awards, you know, so he's he's he's a car

964
00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:39.039
<v Speaker 4>guy too, you know. So, but he's been having these

965
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:43.159
<v Speaker 4>crazy experiences his whole life, as have other people up

966
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:45.559
<v Speaker 4>in that area. So now this is something that we're

967
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:47.280
<v Speaker 4>gonna really kind of look into.

968
00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:50.480
<v Speaker 3>And again it's a good show. That'd be all of

969
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:51.960
<v Speaker 3>the classic cause as well.

970
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:56.159
<v Speaker 4>Oh exactly. But yeah, just to your point, you know,

971
00:49:56.280 --> 00:50:00.000
<v Speaker 4>like there's something there that we're not creating. That's something

972
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.360
<v Speaker 4>thing that's happening, you know. And so but all these

973
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:09.400
<v Speaker 4>different things, missing time, abductions, it's it's got it. It's

974
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:11.559
<v Speaker 4>all like we did in this video. Like what I

975
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:13.880
<v Speaker 4>said to Mike last night, I said, Mike, you know,

976
00:50:14.360 --> 00:50:17.440
<v Speaker 4>we'll never know, Well, like we might, we might kind

977
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:20.000
<v Speaker 4>of get an idea of what's out there, what's going on.

978
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:23.000
<v Speaker 4>But unless it lands right in front of us, we're

979
00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:24.960
<v Speaker 4>not going to know what it is. You know, it's

980
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 4>it's what are these plasmoid? Now? Now it's a plasmoid

981
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:30.400
<v Speaker 4>right form? You know?

982
00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Now?

983
00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:31.239
<v Speaker 4>You know.

984
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:33.679
<v Speaker 2>The funny thing too is to me at least is

985
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:35.960
<v Speaker 2>a big fan of Philip K. Dick, who's probably the

986
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:39.679
<v Speaker 2>most important science fiction author at least in my in

987
00:50:41.039 --> 00:50:43.880
<v Speaker 2>my taste in the twentieth century. He wrote Blade Runner

988
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:48.400
<v Speaker 2>and you know, Minority Report, Yeah, all these kind of things.

989
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:54.960
<v Speaker 2>He suggested he had experiences towards the end of his

990
00:50:55.039 --> 00:50:58.000
<v Speaker 2>life that seemed to be he was having contact with

991
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:03.880
<v Speaker 2>a non human potentially extraterrestrial intelligence, and he called that

992
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:10.159
<v Speaker 2>intelligence variously valus or zebra. And it seemed that these

993
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:13.199
<v Speaker 2>things were he coined the term almost for this, that

994
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:16.480
<v Speaker 2>they were they were plasmoids. They were they were a

995
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:22.199
<v Speaker 2>life form of a different, differently composed than we were.

996
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:26.960
<v Speaker 2>And in the exegesis of Philip K. Dick that another

997
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:29.360
<v Speaker 2>friend of mine, Gabriel McKee, worked on that book, which

998
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:32.079
<v Speaker 2>was something he wrote which was just his philosophy really,

999
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:34.960
<v Speaker 2>and that was it wasn't released too long after his death.

1000
00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:38.719
<v Speaker 3>In that book, he.

1001
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Talks about how interestingly UFOs kind of behave the way

1002
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.679
<v Speaker 2>Vallis does. Here it's here one minute, it's hit there

1003
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:48.280
<v Speaker 2>another minute. It appears this way for one person, that

1004
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:51.880
<v Speaker 2>way for another person. So there seems to be the

1005
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:55.079
<v Speaker 2>idea of this, this plasmoid idea. And I saw I

1006
00:51:55.119 --> 00:52:00.440
<v Speaker 2>saw flat Rockland Matt Auckland comment on that before the

1007
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:02.119
<v Speaker 2>the significance of plasmoids.

1008
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:03.320
<v Speaker 3>I think there's something there.

1009
00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:06.159
<v Speaker 2>I think there maybe this isn't the life form very

1010
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:09.360
<v Speaker 2>different to the way we think of life traditionally.

1011
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:12.039
<v Speaker 4>I go back right, and I go back to a

1012
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:15.519
<v Speaker 4>report I got uh from a couple on a ship

1013
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:18.480
<v Speaker 4>in the middle of the Bahamas at midnight, they saw

1014
00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:21.760
<v Speaker 4>that what they thought was fireworks and here it turned

1015
00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:25.960
<v Speaker 4>out that it was these weird tweeting type things going

1016
00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:28.719
<v Speaker 4>over the water. And then it was like in there

1017
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:31.639
<v Speaker 4>they looked like plasma. And then all of a sudden,

1018
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:34.360
<v Speaker 4>a huge orange orb came out of the water and

1019
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:39.320
<v Speaker 4>went after those things. So it's like, is this is

1020
00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:41.840
<v Speaker 4>this a new life form? That's the whole thing?

1021
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Is this?

1022
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:45.079
<v Speaker 4>But has it been here? That's the other thing. You know,

1023
00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:49.400
<v Speaker 4>the oceans have not been explored nearly as much as

1024
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:51.960
<v Speaker 4>the space has, you know, so we've got a lot

1025
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:54.639
<v Speaker 4>in our oceans that could be I found a very

1026
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:57.960
<v Speaker 4>interesting anecdote when we were at the fusee. The woman

1027
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:02.760
<v Speaker 4>told us, you know, fish can survive g forces fish

1028
00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:06.719
<v Speaker 4>because of their physiology. So with that, they did an

1029
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:12.920
<v Speaker 4>experiment where scientists, actually a scientist got into water and

1030
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:16.440
<v Speaker 4>in this like tube and they hooked it underneath the

1031
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:20.639
<v Speaker 4>centrifuge in water and they spun the fugeon. They were

1032
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:25.400
<v Speaker 4>able to survive thirty g's in water. Oh wow, So

1033
00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:29.679
<v Speaker 4>now Dean, you've got what do we have? Usos unidentified

1034
00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:34.360
<v Speaker 4>some meerge objects rights trans medium UFOs going in the water,

1035
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:36.679
<v Speaker 4>coming out of the water, going in the sky. So

1036
00:53:37.639 --> 00:53:39.840
<v Speaker 4>and it was fascinating to be there because I'm like,

1037
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:43.199
<v Speaker 4>I'm looking at all this stuff and these molded chairs

1038
00:53:43.239 --> 00:53:46.159
<v Speaker 4>where that's where the pilots would sit into these molded

1039
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:49.519
<v Speaker 4>chairs because it would keep all of their blood vessels

1040
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:52.639
<v Speaker 4>and corpuscles from flowing down to their feet, you know.

1041
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:55.400
<v Speaker 4>But I'm like, where did they come up with this?

1042
00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:58.679
<v Speaker 4>Unless they had seen it somewhere before. And I always

1043
00:53:58.679 --> 00:54:02.800
<v Speaker 4>go back to Roswell. I always go back to what happened,

1044
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:07.880
<v Speaker 4>because this facility it opened up three years after Roswell.

1045
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:12.039
<v Speaker 4>So I always think to myself, could there be that technology?

1046
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:13.400
<v Speaker 4>You know, there was a lot of things that came

1047
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:16.920
<v Speaker 4>out of that fiber optics, you know, transistors and all

1048
00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:19.400
<v Speaker 4>kinds of stuff like that. Something to myself, could there

1049
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:23.159
<v Speaker 4>be that connection as well? You know it's again, you know,

1050
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:24.599
<v Speaker 4>I know I'm going down a whole one.

1051
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:27.000
<v Speaker 3>No, I think it's interesting to me.

1052
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:30.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a particularly interesting topic that the idea of these

1053
00:54:30.519 --> 00:54:34.360
<v Speaker 2>trance medium ships for starters. Ivan Sanderson, who was good

1054
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:38.000
<v Speaker 2>friends with John Keel, wrote a book suggesting that these

1055
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:40.559
<v Speaker 2>things might be from beneath the oceans back in the

1056
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:45.880
<v Speaker 2>sixties exactly, but pre dating Ivan Sanderson, Raymond Palmer and

1057
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Richard Shaver, who anybody who regularly watches the show knows

1058
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:52.400
<v Speaker 2>I spend way too much time thinking about and talking about.

1059
00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:54.840
<v Speaker 2>I made one short documentary, The Shaver of Mystery, and

1060
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm still making the feature documentary The Man who Invented

1061
00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Flying sources about these two men. But Richard Shaver said

1062
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:04.679
<v Speaker 2>that there was this race of people he called the

1063
00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:08.039
<v Speaker 2>sea people that were part of the antediluvial races here

1064
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:11.639
<v Speaker 2>and they had these type of ships, and everybody dismissed

1065
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Shaver like he's mad, it's crazy. But now you see

1066
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:17.800
<v Speaker 2>like Congress like hearings, they're talking about trans medium ships

1067
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:18.840
<v Speaker 2>and you know, and I'm.

1068
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:20.840
<v Speaker 3>Like, we have Shaver was here today, he'd be saying, well,

1069
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:22.960
<v Speaker 3>I told you this literally in the mid nineteen forties.

1070
00:55:23.559 --> 00:55:23.920
<v Speaker 4>Exactly.

1071
00:55:23.960 --> 00:55:25.920
<v Speaker 2>I told you this before Roswell. I told you this

1072
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:29.039
<v Speaker 2>before Kenneth Arnold even saw anything. And now you're like, okay,

1073
00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:31.280
<v Speaker 2>well I was already talking about it. So it's so

1074
00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:34.639
<v Speaker 2>funny to see this stuff coming like full circle to me.

1075
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:38.960
<v Speaker 4>Exactly. Yeah, you know, it's amazing. And your document, I

1076
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:40.960
<v Speaker 4>can't wait till you get that done. Man, that's gonna

1077
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:43.599
<v Speaker 4>be awesome. I mean you've done a lot of research.

1078
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:45.400
<v Speaker 4>You've done a lot of work on that, man, so

1079
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:46.840
<v Speaker 4>you got to get that thing done.

1080
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:47.599
<v Speaker 1>That.

1081
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been I thought it would take me a year.

1082
00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:52.159
<v Speaker 2>It's taken me like four or something. I'm still going

1083
00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:55.199
<v Speaker 2>I did have a wonderful short out of it. I

1084
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:56.119
<v Speaker 2>ever said you were linked to.

1085
00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:56.920
<v Speaker 3>The Shaver mystery.

1086
00:55:57.599 --> 00:55:58.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't think you did said you.

1087
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Were linked to the short which is almost finishes fest

1088
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:03.880
<v Speaker 2>run now been played almost thirty firsts at one like

1089
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:06.000
<v Speaker 2>literally ten Best Short Documentary Awards.

1090
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:07.639
<v Speaker 3>I'll send you a link, please do.

1091
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:10.400
<v Speaker 4>That'd be awesome and people could get the new book.

1092
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.679
<v Speaker 2>That's what we need to talk about just quickly. Yeah,

1093
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:16.039
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about that before we say goodbye. Let's let's

1094
00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:19.039
<v Speaker 2>put this on the screen. So pitch the book a

1095
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 2>little bit more. Yeah, prize into the series. Tell me

1096
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:23.039
<v Speaker 2>where people can get it.

1097
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:25.480
<v Speaker 4>They can get it right on Amazon right now. And

1098
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:30.280
<v Speaker 4>it's fifteen chapters dealing with everything from all of the

1099
00:56:31.440 --> 00:56:34.760
<v Speaker 4>venues in the Poconos, the Harry Packer Mansion, Shawnee in

1100
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:39.920
<v Speaker 4>Skytop Lodge, all of these incredible, incredible venues, Sherman Theater

1101
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:44.840
<v Speaker 4>and if any of your listeners are in Pennsylvania, October fourth,

1102
00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:48.840
<v Speaker 4>we've got a great, great paranormal convention happening at the

1103
00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:53.960
<v Speaker 4>Sherman Theater from twelve to six in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania, and

1104
00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:58.519
<v Speaker 4>that's going to be incredible. We've got speakers, vendors, We've

1105
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:03.880
<v Speaker 4>got Gene Steak and Natalia Stico talking about her father

1106
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:10.039
<v Speaker 4>sent her plans where they were reverse engineering Soviet UFOs

1107
00:57:10.159 --> 00:57:14.039
<v Speaker 4>in the fifties and sixties. Wow, incredible story. And then

1108
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:16.800
<v Speaker 4>we've got Tom Carrey is going to be talking about

1109
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:20.320
<v Speaker 4>Roswell deathbed confessions. Dominic and I are going to be

1110
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:24.039
<v Speaker 4>there talking about paranormal in the Poconos. James Krug is

1111
00:57:24.079 --> 00:57:28.239
<v Speaker 4>going to be there as well, talking about crop circles.

1112
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:33.280
<v Speaker 4>And then we've got Mike Famlint talking about Bigfoot. So

1113
00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:35.119
<v Speaker 4>he's got in the shadow of Big Red Eye. And

1114
00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:39.159
<v Speaker 4>it's a really great, great bunch of great vendors, great speakers.

1115
00:57:39.159 --> 00:57:41.239
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna have a lot of fun. And that's gonna

1116
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:44.440
<v Speaker 4>be October fourth, from twelve to six at the Sherman

1117
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:48.119
<v Speaker 4>Theater in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania. And then my book is available

1118
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:50.960
<v Speaker 4>on Amazon dot com. I've got a couple of books available.

1119
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:53.480
<v Speaker 4>And then people could see us on the Pocono Television

1120
00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:56.840
<v Speaker 4>Network any night of the week. Every night of the week.

1121
00:57:56.840 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 4>We're on seven o'clock and you guys can download their

1122
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:02.599
<v Speaker 4>free app. It's a free app and you could see

1123
00:58:02.599 --> 00:58:06.280
<v Speaker 4>it any anywhere in the world. And then new episodes

1124
00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:09.039
<v Speaker 4>are on Saturday nights at eight o'clock. And like I said,

1125
00:58:09.039 --> 00:58:11.920
<v Speaker 4>this Saturday, we're going to have the new Bigfoot episode,

1126
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:13.440
<v Speaker 4>which is going to blow everybody.

1127
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:15.519
<v Speaker 3>Away, madam. Looking so forward to it.

1128
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:16.320
<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be awesome.

1129
00:58:17.880 --> 00:58:20.960
<v Speaker 2>It's always so awesome to have you visit me on

1130
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Talking Weed, and I'm glad this time we had you

1131
00:58:24.000 --> 00:58:26.519
<v Speaker 2>back like we wereunning, like you know, ten episodes apart

1132
00:58:26.639 --> 00:58:27.599
<v Speaker 2>or something like now.

1133
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:29.800
<v Speaker 4>Man, this is awesome. It's always a pleasure to talk

1134
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:31.719
<v Speaker 4>with you, man, because again, we're all we're all in

1135
00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:36.159
<v Speaker 4>that like minded creative atmosphere, you know, and we and

1136
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:38.280
<v Speaker 4>like everybody else, we just want answers too. We want

1137
00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:39.559
<v Speaker 4>to figure out what's going on out there.

1138
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:40.519
<v Speaker 3>Man.

1139
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Ain't that the truth? So thank you so much for

1140
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:44.960
<v Speaker 2>visiting with me, mate, I really appreciate it.

1141
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:45.679
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

1142
00:58:45.719 --> 00:58:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Brother.

1143
00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:48.519
<v Speaker 4>Let's let's do it again. And let's do it again

1144
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:50.639
<v Speaker 4>and get all the team on and we can do that.

1145
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:52.679
<v Speaker 4>Let's do that again. Let's let's talk about that.

1146
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:55.639
<v Speaker 2>Let's let's do that, like not six months away, Let's

1147
00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:56.800
<v Speaker 2>do that in the next two months.

1148
00:58:57.800 --> 00:58:59.760
<v Speaker 4>Sounds good. Even before that, that sounds.

1149
00:58:59.519 --> 00:59:02.599
<v Speaker 2>Wonderful, sounds great, mate, And until I talk to you again,

1150
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:05.840
<v Speaker 2>which will be when we get ready to prep that episode,

1151
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:08.800
<v Speaker 2>which sounds amazing, until I get to talk to everybody

1152
00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:13.119
<v Speaker 2>else out there, which will be same. Weird time Thursday,

1153
00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:18.519
<v Speaker 2>nine pm Central. Next week, same weird network, the Untold

1154
00:59:18.880 --> 00:59:19.679
<v Speaker 2>Radio Network.

1155
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<v Speaker 3>Please keep it weird.