Speaker 1: The paranormal, UFOs, monsters, mysteries. You're listening to Talking Weird
Speaker 1: and Know from a Kevin Deep in the Northwoods, your host,
Speaker 1: Doctor Dean Bertram.
Speaker 2: Good evening on my fellow widows and weirdos. Welcome to
Speaker 2: Talking Weird on the Unsold Radio Network. I'm your host,
Speaker 2: Dean Bertram, and I'm delighted that you've joined me for
Speaker 2: what is a Brother Bomy night here in the north Woods.
Speaker 3: Where I record live stream the show.
Speaker 2: That's said as I think I'll mention it to the
Speaker 2: guests when he comes on, because I had him on
Speaker 2: near the beginning of the summer, and now it feels
Speaker 2: like he was just here yesterday and the summer is
Speaker 2: racing by. I hope you're all enjoying these last days
Speaker 2: of summer, finding fun things to do, whether it's county
Speaker 2: fairs or last days at the lake, or little trips
Speaker 2: or whatever your traditions might or might not be. Maybe
Speaker 2: just taking it easy, enjoying the evening on your patio
Speaker 2: or your balcony or your front porch or wherever you
Speaker 2: are in the world. If you're in the Northern Hemisphere,
Speaker 2: enjoy the rest of the summer. And if you're if
Speaker 2: you're elsewhere, I suppose you know, get ready for your
Speaker 2: upcoming summer regardless, I'm delighted that you're going to be
Speaker 2: with me for the next hour or so. Whether it's
Speaker 2: live at nine pm on Thursday, August the twenty, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six, or whatever time you're watching or listening in
Speaker 2: the future, Welcome. I'm so delighted to have my guests
Speaker 2: back with me again. As I mentioned, I had him
Speaker 2: earlier in the summer. He's one of my favorite people
Speaker 2: to have on the show and one of my favorite
Speaker 2: people in this entire crazy forty in paranormal space that
Speaker 2: we are all interested in. He's also a renowned jazz
Speaker 2: musician and a paranormal investigator. For over thirty years, he
Speaker 2: has led the acclaimed Eric Mintel Quartet, performing at prestigious
Speaker 2: venues like the White House and the Kennedy Center and
Speaker 2: captivating audiences with his innovative jazz compositions. And they are fantastic.
Speaker 2: I've listened to him play and so it's spectacular. Beyond music,
Speaker 2: he has made a name for himself in the world
Speaker 2: of the paranormal with his hit TV series Eric Mintel Investigates,
Speaker 2: which is always a blast and super interesting exploring phenomena
Speaker 2: from ghosts and UFOs to bigfoot and dog man sightings,
Speaker 2: and his dual careers highlight his diverse talents and insatiable curiosity.
Speaker 2: He's also an incredible author, and we're going to be
Speaker 2: talking about his most recent book today, which is just fascinating.
Speaker 2: And I'm delighted to welcome back to the show my
Speaker 2: dear friend Eric Mintel. Oh my gosh, Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: In the house. I thought, good mate, I thought you'd
Speaker 3: throw it in a mask when you were in the
Speaker 3: green room for a minute.
Speaker 4: Then you got to mix it up, right.
Speaker 3: That's absolutely true.
Speaker 2: That's absolutely I used to I always loft doing that
Speaker 2: for my Halloween episodes, wearing something bizarre.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh, definitely definitely, man, for sure. Well, it's
Speaker 4: always a pleasure to see you, man, it's always always
Speaker 4: great to be on the show. You know, you and
Speaker 4: I are such like minded people, such creative individuals. You
Speaker 4: are doing so much which is really really great, so
Speaker 4: many projects. I don't know how you keep up with it.
Speaker 3: Man. Well, I mean you're not one to You shouldn't
Speaker 3: be one to speak, man.
Speaker 2: Because you were so busy with your with your music,
Speaker 2: your TV show, your books, and we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about your most recent book tonight. What I was going
Speaker 2: to mention quickly though, which I can't believe. You and
Speaker 2: I were discussing Disclosure day like I think, ten episodes ago,
Speaker 2: like it was the beginning of the summer.
Speaker 4: I know, right, it was just it was that, like
Speaker 4: I think the couple of days before it came out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that I think.
Speaker 2: I think you've seen an advanced, like proper advanced industry screen,
Speaker 2: the kind of stuff I used to see when I
Speaker 2: was in Sydney. Now in the boonies, get invited to
Speaker 2: anything like that. But my cinema released it a day
Speaker 2: earlier than the official release, and I think I saw
Speaker 2: it the day you came on or something, so we
Speaker 2: were both ready to jump into it. And I beat
Speaker 2: the hell out of that movie and you were far
Speaker 2: kinder to it. I did see the other day. Speaking
Speaker 2: of movies, I don't if you've seen it or not,
Speaker 2: the End of Oak Street.
Speaker 4: Did not see that yet, Exa, that's on the list.
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 2: It's so yeah, it's speaking of Spielberg, it's better than
Speaker 2: all the Jurassic Parking movies put together.
Speaker 3: It's so good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks it. It looks it. I want to
Speaker 4: see that for sure.
Speaker 3: It's phenomenal. That was it was good.
Speaker 2: I think even the trailer of the well, the teaser
Speaker 2: trailer and the lead up to it was like Summer
Speaker 2: Ends on Oak Street. And it's such a great because
Speaker 2: it is the end of summer. It's a perfect movie
Speaker 2: to just see out the summer.
Speaker 3: It's right now, man.
Speaker 4: And that's what we were just saying, like how things
Speaker 4: are going so fast. It's like, you know, we were
Speaker 4: just talking. It seems like it was only just a
Speaker 4: couple of days ago, but it's like ten episodes ago already.
Speaker 4: So yeah, the summer has been crazy. We've been busy
Speaker 4: as hell with doing all I mean we're shooting video
Speaker 4: all the time for of the Pocono Television Network and
Speaker 4: have been loving the partnership and just having a great time.
Speaker 4: We just we did I mean, we've done it all. Ghosts, UFOs, Bigfoot.
Speaker 4: We actually have a Bigfoot video investigation that we did
Speaker 4: that's coming out this Saturday on PTN, and we talked
Speaker 4: to witnesses. We talked to a gentleman who actually was
Speaker 4: on a bike trail and heard a scream and stopped
Speaker 4: and looked around, saw this, like all this stuff going
Speaker 4: on in the woods over by this creek bed, and
Speaker 4: just like the Patterson Gimlin thing, all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: he sees this creature standing there like at six and
Speaker 4: a half seven feet tall, and he had the presence
Speaker 4: of mind to not only get out of there, but
Speaker 4: he also took a picture of it. And you could
Speaker 4: see this culture and we ran it through all the
Speaker 4: things like the AI to see if it was you know,
Speaker 4: fake or anything like that, and it's not. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's the genuine thing. So there's something there. And people
Speaker 4: have been seeing this creature in the Pocono Mountains for years,
Speaker 4: for decades, so it's uh. And so you'll see a
Speaker 4: lot of a lot of the witnesses, all of the
Speaker 4: stories kind of tie in together. It's really really cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to that episode. My daughter and
Speaker 2: I always watch your show together.
Speaker 3: Actually, good thanks man. She's with her Momay night.
Speaker 2: My wonderful girlfriend, Samantha Crawsey was a guest just last
Speaker 2: week on the show, has been on a few times.
Speaker 2: She's here tonight and she sent me her heart. She
Speaker 2: always sends me she's downstairs. She's not in her house tonight,
Speaker 2: so it's fun to have It's fun to have her. Hey, baby,
Speaker 2: nice too. I'm sure you can hear me, even I'm
Speaker 2: not in the show.
Speaker 3: She can probably.
Speaker 4: Man, thank you. Dean's a great guy.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Eric.
Speaker 2: That's pretty sweet if you just say, but yeah, what
Speaker 2: we're talking about tonight though, is going to be this
Speaker 2: your new book again. I said, how busy you are
Speaker 2: paranormal in the Poconose there is.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's unbelievable, man, I mean, you know, and
Speaker 4: I you know, it started has already been a year
Speaker 4: in June. It was a year that we partnered with
Speaker 4: Pokeno Television Network, and you know, a real quick story
Speaker 4: about that. I had, you know, prior to that, we
Speaker 4: were doing a lot of videos for restaurants, pubs, bed
Speaker 4: and breakfasts and telling historic stories here in Bucks County
Speaker 4: and kind of going all over the place. You know.
Speaker 4: We went to Elcorn of course, and did the Beast
Speaker 4: of Bray Road, New Jersey Pine Barons and did a
Speaker 4: big Foot investigation in the Pine Barons and the Jersey
Speaker 4: Devil of course. But I had called I had seen
Speaker 4: a commercial on TV down here for Pokeno Television Network,
Speaker 4: and I saw Chris Barrett was the CEO, and he
Speaker 4: just looked like a really cool, approachable guy to just call,
Speaker 4: and I said, Hey, I wonder if you know he'd
Speaker 4: be interested in airing my show. So I called and
Speaker 4: we made it, and then it led from me getting
Speaker 4: the videos aired to having this incredible partnership. So we're
Speaker 4: really really grateful me Domick Satel who's our spirit medium,
Speaker 4: and Mike Striegel. One of these nights we'll have to
Speaker 4: get all three of these guys on the show.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'd love whenever you want to, let's do that.
Speaker 3: I'd love to do it. Yeah, we should.
Speaker 4: We should definitely do that because Dominic Scott some really
Speaker 4: create insights on when he goes on these investigations, like
Speaker 4: what is he tuning in on and what you know,
Speaker 4: how he goes into it where I don't tell him
Speaker 4: anything and he's kind of going into all these investigations cold,
Speaker 4: you know. And and for Mike, our cameraman, who initially
Speaker 4: was on the skeptical side, is now more of a
Speaker 4: believer because the very first video we did of the
Speaker 4: year was the Harry Packer Mansion in Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 4: which is just in the Poconos, and the the Harry
Speaker 4: Packer Mansion. I don't know if people know this or not,
Speaker 4: it was the inspiration for Walt Disney's Haunted Mansion in
Speaker 4: Disney in California. So all of Walt Disney's guys were
Speaker 4: there in jim Thorpe looking at this house and they
Speaker 4: modeled it after after this, the Haunted Mansion, so the
Speaker 4: the the chandeliers inside. So that was our very first time,
Speaker 4: our very first video. And on that investigation, Mike not
Speaker 4: only saw a shadow at the top of the stairs,
Speaker 4: which is which a lot of people have seen this
Speaker 4: this entity, he also was he was getting possessed by
Speaker 4: the picture, by the painting of Harry Packer. Not possessed
Speaker 4: in an exorcist kind of way, but he was getting possessed.
Speaker 4: Whereas we kept like where is Mike, where did he go?
Speaker 4: And he's going into the into the room where this
Speaker 4: painting is. He kept being drawn into this painting and
Speaker 4: it was just like this kind of connection that he
Speaker 4: had and it was an interesting thing. So, and it
Speaker 4: was a very wealthy family that that initially owned the
Speaker 4: house in the uh turn of the century, and they
Speaker 4: were responsible for a lot of like Lehigh University, the
Speaker 4: railroad system out in that area, so they were very
Speaker 4: influential people and also in the political scene as well.
Speaker 4: So but it was a really really cool thing to
Speaker 4: see Mike have that kind of reaction, you know, because sometimes,
Speaker 4: you know, when you have. One of the things with
Speaker 4: my show too, I try to do, is I try
Speaker 4: to feature the cameraman, you know, because a lot of
Speaker 4: these shows, you know, they're always behind the scenes. So
Speaker 4: we always try to get these guys right on camera
Speaker 4: because they're seeing things that we're not, you know, we
Speaker 4: might not see, you know, So we get his testimony
Speaker 4: every once in a while, and just the dynamic, the
Speaker 4: energy between the three of us is great. And then
Speaker 4: we also have some of the people from PTN come
Speaker 4: on the investigation with us, Kate Kroll, who's executive in
Speaker 4: charge of broadcasting, a few of the interns come up,
Speaker 4: and Chris himself has been on some of the investigations
Speaker 4: as well. So it's it's really great we're doing not
Speaker 4: only the history, but all these incredible like paranormal activities
Speaker 4: that we're experiencing that have been going on for years
Speaker 4: that people had no cluees in their own backyard.
Speaker 2: I mean that's yeah, that's absolutely fascinating. Speaking of backyards,
Speaker 2: I have to share this with you. Last week is
Speaker 2: regular listeners and viewers of the show. Well, no, I
Speaker 2: had my girlfriend Sam on and we were talking about
Speaker 2: our ongoing strange UFO sidings ever since we went to
Speaker 2: at C five events back at the end of June,
Speaker 2: and we were talking about that extensively. Just now there
Speaker 2: was the loudest rumbling above the house. I muted you
Speaker 2: and yelled down to Sam, what the devil is that?
Speaker 2: Is that like military jets? It probably was, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't just like we normally hear one military chat. There
Speaker 2: were things in this and they probably are military planes.
Speaker 2: But it was a crazy loud rumble. Now like if
Speaker 2: I hadn't muted you could have you could have heard it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, here in even our northwoods of Wisconsin, the
Speaker 2: weird stuff we get in our backyards in our skies
Speaker 2: at night is crazy.
Speaker 3: And I love that about your show.
Speaker 2: I love how you go to so so many different
Speaker 2: places and you talk to so many different witnesses and
Speaker 2: so many different experiences, and that you're not just a
Speaker 2: ghost show or just a UFO show or just a
Speaker 2: cryptid show. Like, I think that's one of the great
Speaker 2: strengths of what you do, that you're open to all
Speaker 2: of this different subject matter and you take it all
Speaker 2: equally seriously and you go and you look at all
Speaker 2: of it. Was that something and before we get into
Speaker 2: the book more, I'm just cute because don't think I've
Speaker 2: ever asked you that before. Was that something you'd kind
Speaker 2: of decided on from the beginning, or did you kind
Speaker 2: of move into where we were doing just ghosts, but
Speaker 2: now we want to do this, or we were just
Speaker 2: doing UFOs and now we want to do this or
Speaker 2: was it were you always like I just want to
Speaker 2: do every strange tale I can get my hands on,
Speaker 2: all of the above.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it was like, I think it's
Speaker 4: the fact of, like, you know, there's so much out there,
Speaker 4: let's let's try to mix it up a little bit
Speaker 4: and try to do it cryptids, ghosts, you know, UFOs
Speaker 4: obviously because UFOs is the hot topic right now. I
Speaker 4: like everybody's talking about it. Everybody's had these crazy sightings.
Speaker 4: So that's been Yeah, that was early on and early
Speaker 4: on in the show, I always wanted to be truth
Speaker 4: based investigating. So we always say truth without the gimmicks, right,
Speaker 4: So we're not using all the gadgetry like the spirit
Speaker 4: boxes and things like that. We're using Dominic his skills
Speaker 4: as a spirit medium, a magnetometer sometimes on some of
Speaker 4: these investigations, and maybe sometimes a EVP which is really
Speaker 4: just kind of a dictation device, but and maybe not
Speaker 4: even that sometimes and letting the show organically happen, you know,
Speaker 4: And with that that when you go into these things,
Speaker 4: and you've heard me say it before, I go into
Speaker 4: a lot of our investigations on the skeptical side, but
Speaker 4: and having that bit of the open mindset, there's stuff
Speaker 4: that hap within fifteen minutes, something happens. And I mean
Speaker 4: prime example was last night, Mike and I just finished
Speaker 4: a UFO video for here. It's called Witnesses Witnessed the
Speaker 4: UFOs here in Bucks County. We're setting up last night.
Speaker 4: We did a night shoot right here at the house
Speaker 4: up on the sand mound of the of the house
Speaker 4: here in the yard, and so we set up everything there.
Speaker 4: I had my cell phone camera on a tripod and
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm pointing it to the sky because I
Speaker 4: wanted to get some b roll of the sky. Well,
Speaker 4: I looked at the footage today when I was editing it.
Speaker 4: In we caught a fireball. I could not believe it, man,
Speaker 4: And I mean it was like it you know, it
Speaker 4: wasn't a UAP but you could obviously it was, but
Speaker 4: the tail on this thing was unbelievable. So right then
Speaker 4: and there, we're like, oh my god. And then after
Speaker 4: the shoot, we just kind of looked at the sky
Speaker 4: and we're looking around and we saw another shooting star.
Speaker 4: So there is I mean, if you if you take
Speaker 4: the time and keep looking at the sky, you're gonna
Speaker 4: see something. There's something there, whether it's you know, shooting
Speaker 4: stars or a satellite or something else.
Speaker 3: Right, you know.
Speaker 4: And my UFO encounter with the those five orange orbs
Speaker 4: back in twenty sixteen and then they disappeared. One of
Speaker 4: the things in this new video which I think people
Speaker 4: will like is we feature Bill Burns from UFO Hunters.
Speaker 2: Bill is literally so great whenever he's on your show.
Speaker 2: By the way, I get sopisode.
Speaker 4: Came, Bill is awesome, man. Bill is just a wealth
Speaker 4: of knowledge when it comes to all this stuff. And
Speaker 4: I could literally say, now he's my next door neighbor.
Speaker 4: He literally lives fifteen minutes from here. It's unbelievable. So
Speaker 4: but Bill, what Bill was saying, which I thought was
Speaker 4: really cool, is that we see these UFOs and you know,
Speaker 4: they're not wing, they're not coming from vast distances. They're
Speaker 4: blink They're winking in and out of time, right So there,
Speaker 4: maybe they're they're moving. Time is moving through them, you know,
Speaker 4: they're moving through the spaces in time, and then that's
Speaker 4: why they're there. And then they blink out or they disappear.
Speaker 4: So it's just really I mean, you could go down
Speaker 4: so many different rabbit holes with with the theories, but
Speaker 4: that's I thought that was really fascinating and to kind
Speaker 4: of think about it that way. One of the other
Speaker 4: things we did too is we were we went down
Speaker 4: to what they call the fuge, the Centrifuge over here
Speaker 4: in Warminster, Pennsylvania, and it was an area where Neil Armstrong,
Speaker 4: Buzz Aldrin, John Glenn they all trained at this facility.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, this facility is where we won the space race.
Speaker 2: Is there where they spin the spin which is like
Speaker 2: in moonray Kill or whatever.
Speaker 4: That was. And I was inside this thing, man, it
Speaker 4: was unbelievable. I'm not going around, but it's unplugged now.
Speaker 2: But no, man, I would have paid as to say,
Speaker 2: you're spinning around and nothing like James.
Speaker 4: Bond for forty g's that thing could do.
Speaker 3: Goodbye, mister, mister mantel.
Speaker 4: God gone. So yeah, I mean, so this one's kind
Speaker 4: of come out probably next week. And like I said,
Speaker 4: the Bigfoot video that we just did in Jim Thorpe's
Speaker 4: coming out this Saturday at eight o'clock Eastern Standard time.
Speaker 3: Here. Oh nice, No, I look forward to that. In fact,
Speaker 3: I might wait.
Speaker 2: I will probably watch that with my daughter when she
Speaker 2: gets back from her mum's on Sunday, because we love
Speaker 2: watching watching your stuff together. We had a comment from
Speaker 2: Horace Smith after your fireball I mentioned saying because he's
Speaker 2: a he's a You might know who Horace is as well.
Speaker 2: He's a good good friend of the show, a guest
Speaker 2: on the show, good friend of mine. He's a professor
Speaker 2: Emorus of astronomy in physics at Michigan State University. And
Speaker 2: he says, my sky photo's always missed the fireballs, so
Speaker 2: he's quite happy. I assume that you've got one. Speaking
Speaker 2: of Horrace, I'll tell you a little horror story as well.
Speaker 2: I was mentioning as as we were talking about last
Speaker 2: week on Talking With and I just mentioned to you
Speaker 2: beforehand and Sam and make a Friend I have talked
Speaker 2: about a couple of times on the show.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Ever since we went to the C five events at
Speaker 2: the end of June, we along with people who been
Speaker 2: on my property with us, I've seen things in the
Speaker 2: sky that we quite frankly can't explain, like really weird things.
Speaker 2: Last Saturday, so we did the Talking With on Thursday
Speaker 2: and last Saturday we were outside looking at the skies
Speaker 2: as we do, as we've always had.
Speaker 3: Incidentally, we've never just ever seen anything.
Speaker 2: Until until after the late June Sea five. Then we
Speaker 2: went to and Sam and I have been watching the
Speaker 2: skies together for well over two years before that. But
Speaker 2: we saw strange things. Lights coming together, weird lights like
Speaker 2: they weren't satellites, moving in a staggering motion, changing direction, accelerating,
Speaker 2: all kinds of weird stuff. But we saw the most
Speaker 2: spectacular thing we saw was this super bright light that
Speaker 2: seemed smaller than the others, and it seemed to emit
Speaker 2: a halo of gas or was going through a lower
Speaker 2: with this rolling halo that blew out of it multiple times.
Speaker 3: Super strange.
Speaker 2: Anyway, as I do whenever I've seen anything strange, I
Speaker 2: run it by horrors because again he's a professor.
Speaker 3: Amors. If one of your good friends is a you know,
Speaker 3: an astroli.
Speaker 2: Professor, and you know what, he found out what it was,
Speaker 2: and it was a Global Star had done a rocket launch.
Speaker 2: And by the time it had done one you know,
Speaker 2: rotation around the planet. It was almost exactly the time
Speaker 2: we would have seen it because my girlfriend filmed it
Speaker 2: and we had the time stamp, and we sent it
Speaker 2: to Horrce and he said, yeah, I think you've seen
Speaker 2: globe and he sent me images of other people. It
Speaker 2: took him like, that's definitely it, so we could eliminate
Speaker 2: the most spectacular thing we saw. It was a Global
Speaker 2: Star launch, but the other things, you know, was horror.
Speaker 2: Will also say we just can't figure out. I'm happy
Speaker 2: if I can find the explanation for anything. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to go, no, you're wrong, it couldn't have been
Speaker 2: it was a UFO. I'm like, no, well, now I
Speaker 2: know it was. It's identified. It was a it was
Speaker 2: a you know, a satellite rocket launch, I get.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, and we we just had one of those
Speaker 4: here not too long ago, and you can now I
Speaker 4: think it's more familiar for people that they're seeing that
Speaker 4: kind of with that halo kind of thing, and it's
Speaker 4: the rocket launch. It could be you know, coming in
Speaker 4: going out, but yeah, that and then we've had so
Speaker 4: many sightings here, man, it's unbelievable. I mean, the one
Speaker 4: video that I got from the Gentleman right literally right
Speaker 4: down the street here, it looked like literally a portal
Speaker 4: opening up in the sky. It was incredible. I mean
Speaker 4: that's in the video as well. And ah my god,
Speaker 4: just that and then uh, you know, and then Starlink
Speaker 4: satellites too are mistaken for UFOs as well. You know,
Speaker 4: I took my dog out for a walk and I
Speaker 4: just happened to look up at it just at that
Speaker 4: right time. I saw it, like it was like a
Speaker 4: train of lights going in the sky. And as you know,
Speaker 4: how it is going down to get the phone ready
Speaker 4: to go take a video, boom.
Speaker 3: It's gone.
Speaker 2: No, it's I mean, it's always worth looking up though,
Speaker 2: And obviously the heavens have more things in them which
Speaker 2: we've made now satellites than ever before. But I still
Speaker 2: I really do, and I mean know I'm there anybody
Speaker 2: who listens or watches to this regularly notice I'm fairly
Speaker 2: skeptical and I'm fairly suspicious of the extraterrestrial hypothesis. But
Speaker 2: ever since that sea five of them, I don't know
Speaker 2: what it is. Sam and I have definitely seen some
Speaker 2: weird things we had. Matt Auckland, another good friend of
Speaker 2: the show aka flat Rockland, saying, hearing reports of Bigfoot
Speaker 2: running uppills at a steady pace, almost gliding, almost hints
Speaker 2: of them blinking in and out of this realm?
Speaker 3: Do you have that approach sometimes?
Speaker 2: Eric, do you like, are there things you hear and
Speaker 2: you go, this sounds like it might be as paranormal
Speaker 2: or as a ghost when you hear.
Speaker 4: You know, And that's a good that's a good question too,
Speaker 4: because or you know, a lot of people have seen bigfoot. Right,
Speaker 4: it's there and then it's gone. Okay, So is that
Speaker 4: we've said this before? Is it moving in and out
Speaker 4: of reality? Is there? Is it moving again?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: Is it a ghost? Could it be a ghost? That
Speaker 4: was another thing that another bigfoot researcher in myself we're
Speaker 4: talking about. He came up with this theory, could be
Speaker 4: Bigfoot be a ghost, and uh, it's just fascinating. I
Speaker 4: mean there's a lot of reports too, and a lot
Speaker 4: of Bigfoot researchers don't want to go with the Bigfoot
Speaker 4: UFO connection, but you know, that could be. There could
Speaker 4: be a connection with that as well. Somebody also said,
Speaker 4: you know how people, you know, you get the abduction reports, right,
Speaker 4: and why couldn't aliens abduct Bigfoot, you know, and and
Speaker 4: perform experiments and then when they drop it off they
Speaker 4: see the UFO and Bigfoot, Right, that could be that
Speaker 4: could be a connection as well. That's pretty out there.
Speaker 4: But you know, who.
Speaker 2: Knows, because there are particularly in the seventies said, well,
Speaker 2: lots of account even Bigfoot walking out of sources, they
Speaker 2: had stories in this is go write a book about
Speaker 2: this back in the book.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh I have that book. It's awesome. It's incredible.
Speaker 4: And I know Stan, uh, incredible guy, just and he's
Speaker 4: on it all the time. I mean since Kesburg he's
Speaker 4: been just out there. I mean, this stuff Dean has
Speaker 4: been going on for ages here. You know, these guys
Speaker 4: remember the Alligash abductions in nineteen seventy six. Charlie Foltz
Speaker 4: is still around. He lived well and I just talked
Speaker 4: to him yesterday.
Speaker 3: I went out, Did you mean on camera met him?
Speaker 4: No? I met him last year when I spoke at
Speaker 4: the Exeter UFO Festival in New Hampshire and I saw
Speaker 4: his presentation and it was great to see his presentation
Speaker 4: because I've always seen their account of the story on
Speaker 4: unsolved Mysteries and things like that, but to hearing from
Speaker 4: him was unbelievable. And this orb that they saw that
Speaker 4: was just like a sun that came out at night
Speaker 4: and came over these guys and took them up into
Speaker 4: the craft. It's the same report. I don't know if
Speaker 4: your listeners remember. It was maybe a couple maybe about
Speaker 4: a year or so ago, two years ago, but it
Speaker 4: just came out now. A police officer in Connecticut was
Speaker 4: doing his his tour and he was up by this
Speaker 4: reservoir in like mid Connecticut, I can't remember that, Middletown,
Speaker 4: I think it was in Connecticut. And as he's driving
Speaker 4: by this reservoir, the interior of his cruiser lit up
Speaker 4: so bright, and he looked out and thirty feet away
Speaker 4: is one of these huge red plasmoid type, and he
Speaker 4: said he could not believe it. He's looking at this
Speaker 4: thing and you know the light that's on the cruiser,
Speaker 4: you know the flashlight. He flipped the flashlight on this thing,
Speaker 4: and as he did that, this thing went from thirty
Speaker 4: feet in a blink of an eye to over the
Speaker 4: reservoir like half a mile away. And that's when he
Speaker 4: said he snapped out of it and started taking a
Speaker 4: video of this thing, and you could see this thing
Speaker 4: in the middle of the reservoir just kind of floating
Speaker 4: and going.
Speaker 3: How long ago? Sorry, Eric, did you say, it's.
Speaker 4: Just the report that he was just on NewsNation just
Speaker 4: not too long ago, maybe about a year. It came
Speaker 4: out in two, I think two years ago, and you
Speaker 4: just made the report now exactly.
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated with And he did you say he was
Speaker 2: a police or sheriff for police off, Yeah, Sam and
Speaker 2: I recently shot an episode of home movie Legendary, which
Speaker 2: you'll be not the next one we released.
Speaker 3: We're about to release one on the Lake Peppin Monster, but.
Speaker 2: We shot one in Elmwood, Wisconsin, which some people call
Speaker 2: the UFO Capital of the World, and some of the
Speaker 2: most famous sidings there were by a police officer, and
Speaker 2: it's interesting. It also brings to mind like the Loni
Speaker 2: Zamora Soicoro, New Mexico siding, like these sidings where police officers.
Speaker 3: On judy have an experience.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that I think police officers are necessarily
Speaker 2: more honest than anybody else, But when you're prepared to
Speaker 2: make an actual statement as a police officer that you've
Speaker 2: encountered this and you're trained to observe things, and there
Speaker 2: seems to be for whatever reason, those reports seem to
Speaker 2: ring with more of a than any other reports. When
Speaker 2: when a police officer or you know, a pilot or somebody.
Speaker 3: Who has the most to lose by making a claim.
Speaker 4: Exactly, Yeah, you're right. And that's the thing too. We
Speaker 4: when we just did this bigfoot video in jim Thorpe,
Speaker 4: we were at Machunk Lake and jim Thorpe where they've
Speaker 4: been having these sightings. We actually had a police officer
Speaker 4: who's also a bigfoot researcher with us and he's he's
Speaker 4: on camera talking about his research and the reports that
Speaker 4: he's been getting in that area. Again that go back decades,
Speaker 4: so we're gonna wind up going back there. I think
Speaker 4: in the spring because there is another report. This was
Speaker 4: dean this, you can't write this stuff. This was unbelievable.
Speaker 4: So the night of the investigation, we're out in the
Speaker 4: middle of nowhere and all of a sudden we look
Speaker 4: over there's a guy walking up the trail with his
Speaker 4: cell phone in hand, looking for us. He was looking
Speaker 4: for us. He wanted to show us this bigfoot footage
Speaker 4: that he got over this these ear How the hell
Speaker 4: did you find us? How did you know that we
Speaker 4: were going to be out here? And he's said, well,
Speaker 4: there was a newspaper story that came out earlier in
Speaker 4: the day and he happened to pick the paper up
Speaker 4: and that that buzz created and he was on a
Speaker 4: mission to find us. And I'm glad he did because
Speaker 4: he was a great guy and his photos were unbelievable.
Speaker 4: These tracks that he had in the snow that had
Speaker 4: like six foot strides between them, it was unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: So it was really cool. So he's in the video too.
Speaker 4: It was kind of like an unexpected surprise, but it
Speaker 4: was incredible. We were also in an area that the
Speaker 4: park rangers had said when we were down there, they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: by the way, there's a five hundred pound bear hanging
Speaker 4: around out here. He likes to come down this trail.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh great, thank god I brought my bull
Speaker 4: whip with me. But not that that's going to do anything.
Speaker 4: But no, that it's a it's a great video. And man,
Speaker 4: I'll it's uh again. I always go at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, people are seeing and experiencing something. You know.
Speaker 2: That's an interesting question I have and I have a
Speaker 2: question from a listener in a minute of viewer in
Speaker 2: a minute as well. But when you're out, because these
Speaker 2: are some hairy places you go, do you take ever
Speaker 2: like bear spray or firearms or anything forget about for
Speaker 2: the bigfoot, for the like for the bear, or for
Speaker 2: the human predator or anything like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, Dean, that's You're right. I should
Speaker 4: be doing that, and I don't, and I should do
Speaker 4: that from now on. I know I'm stupid when it
Speaker 4: comes to that, you know, especially when we did the
Speaker 4: Beast of Bray Road, you know, investigation. We had nothing.
Speaker 4: We had nothing but a flashlight or radio, you know,
Speaker 4: and not thinking anything that we'd run into anything, and
Speaker 4: of course what happened. We actually ran into the creature
Speaker 4: that night.
Speaker 3: We have speaking of Gray Road just quickly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a question about it, So I'll throw
Speaker 2: I'll use that to segue and then I'll throw it
Speaker 2: back to you for you to say whatever you want
Speaker 2: to about about maybe being next time ago that Lee
Speaker 2: Hample's farm has had entities.
Speaker 3: That seem to be paranormal.
Speaker 2: And there was also a question also from spring Hill
Speaker 2: Jack Water who said, Eric, have you been back to
Speaker 2: Lee Hample's farm?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Great, and Lee is awesome. I don't know if
Speaker 4: you've had Lee as a guest on your show, but
Speaker 4: I show Lee's great. We haven't been back since twenty
Speaker 4: twenty two. We did a follow up investigation six months
Speaker 4: after the initial one, from October second through the fourth
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty one. We went back six months later
Speaker 4: and it was great. We had you know, we didn't
Speaker 4: encounter the creature that time, but we did go and
Speaker 4: have a town hall meeting at the local library there
Speaker 4: and we had over one hundred and forty people showed
Speaker 4: up to tell their story about seeing this creature, describing
Speaker 4: the same thing. But we are planning on going back.
Speaker 4: We were given permission to explore the extra one hundred
Speaker 4: and eighty five acres that's out there. So Dean, will
Speaker 4: we get out there? Man, I'm going to give you
Speaker 4: a call. Man, you should We may need back up
Speaker 4: on this one.
Speaker 2: Well, funnily enough, that was our the first home movie
Speaker 2: Legendship myself and Sam shot was was based to bray
Speaker 2: Road episode. Well, it's a fascinating part of the world.
Speaker 2: It's very strange. It's a very strange part of the world.
Speaker 4: And it is. And to answer his questions about things
Speaker 4: being paranormal there, we think there's a there. We think
Speaker 4: there's a portal there, you know, and you know the
Speaker 4: lay lines and stuff that are on the earth, there's
Speaker 4: an area there on that farm. I think that that
Speaker 4: is what's happening there because and the only reason I
Speaker 4: say that earlier during the first investigation, Scott our cameraman
Speaker 4: and drone operator. He builds these incredible high end drones
Speaker 4: and he was flying a drone over while we were
Speaker 4: doing a little reconnaissance in the area. Lee was showing
Speaker 4: us where this all this stuff is happening. As we're
Speaker 4: going across the field into what we call the bait
Speaker 4: area over in that field, in this big thirty five
Speaker 4: acre hayfield we actually disappeared off of Scott's screen when
Speaker 4: he wears you know, you've got to wear virtual reality
Speaker 4: glasses here, we as a group completely disappeared in this area.
Speaker 4: He took the glasses off. We were still there, but
Speaker 4: digitally somehow we disappeared in that So something was messing
Speaker 4: with the electronics in that area, because later on that night,
Speaker 4: Scott was also trying to connect the go pros and
Speaker 4: that wasn't working either. So the night of the investigation,
Speaker 4: none of Lee's trail camps got anything. On the trail camp,
Speaker 4: Scott didn't get any go pro footage, but we were
Speaker 4: able to get the howl and we saw the eyeshine
Speaker 4: and the weird mist that came up and then all
Speaker 4: of us, you know, and then I had I don't
Speaker 4: know I told you this, but you know, I never
Speaker 4: really listened to those howls on headphones, only just maybe
Speaker 4: about a year ago, and I was shocked. On the
Speaker 4: there was a series of howls. There was three howls.
Speaker 4: On the second howl, we actually heard a growl happening
Speaker 4: behind us, and Dominic was hearing all this rustling sounds
Speaker 4: going on. So I didn't realize how dangerous of a situation.
Speaker 4: We really were in and blissfully unaware, and then we
Speaker 4: heard that third howl and that was it.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: We were like, well, And then what got us out
Speaker 4: of there was when Dominic says, shine the light over
Speaker 4: to where we heard the howl, and there, about one
Speaker 4: hundred ft one hundred yards away, you could see eyes
Speaker 4: eyeshine going like this in the corn, like six or
Speaker 4: seven feet up in the corn. So something was there,
Speaker 4: and that told me we got to get the hell
Speaker 4: out of here. It's telling us that this is its territory.
Speaker 4: Get out of here. But you know, Lee's getting all
Speaker 4: kinds of other stuff on the property. He's getting orbs,
Speaker 4: these weird UFO lights going through the woods out there.
Speaker 4: And when I saw these lights, they were smoothly going
Speaker 4: through the woods right, And at first I thought, well,
Speaker 4: maybe maybe it was like you know, all terrain vehicles,
Speaker 4: you know ATV's four wheelers stuff like that, and because
Speaker 4: it kind of looked like that. But then it's the
Speaker 4: difference of seeing and you know how this is. You
Speaker 4: see a video, you're sitting there watching a video, but
Speaker 4: it's a whole different thing to be on site in
Speaker 4: those woods and know there's no way that could be
Speaker 4: anything like that because the trees were so dense in there,
Speaker 4: you'd have to move every second to get around the stuff.
Speaker 4: And this was just gliding very smoothly through the woods.
Speaker 4: And you know, it's one thing you could fake lights
Speaker 4: in the sky, but going through the woods, that's a
Speaker 4: whole different.
Speaker 3: Story, indeed.
Speaker 4: But it was. It was amazing. Man. So all that footage,
Speaker 4: Lee's got the orbs, these wee these even got like
Speaker 4: a terodactyl, a picture of a pterodactyl on the property.
Speaker 4: It's nuts, man, It's crazy. So so yeah, we want
Speaker 4: to get back there because Lee is such a great guy.
Speaker 4: Him and his brother Fred just really great, incredible people. Man.
Speaker 2: Let me let me know, because as I said, Sam
Speaker 2: and I did the first home movie Legend Tip. The
Speaker 2: first one was The Beast of Bray Road. We'll come
Speaker 2: down to do part two and we'll put no I'd
Speaker 2: love to put you in it.
Speaker 3: I'd love to put Lee in it as well. And
Speaker 3: we go. We have a comment. I didn't know it
Speaker 3: was probably Steve Ward. I'm guessing spring Hill. Jack Ward
Speaker 3: is Steve Ward, a very good friend of mine.
Speaker 2: And he said, yes, leave Eric were on my show
Speaker 2: The Highestrangest Fact is such a great show.
Speaker 4: Steve's great. Just Steve is so great, you just ask him.
Speaker 3: He's one of the real gentlemen.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that he made a funny joke before,
Speaker 2: and I thought, this is a troll. But he obviously
Speaker 2: knew you and was making a gag, so I didn't
Speaker 2: put it up on screen.
Speaker 4: But Steve, Steve's awesome, Steve.
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 4: Actually Steve and I met, believe it or not.
Speaker 3: On Bray Road town.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Me Dominic and Ellen Ellen Collins, who was the
Speaker 4: reason why we were all there. So we're on Bray
Speaker 4: Road and one of the things with Bray Road is
Speaker 4: that people are saying you can't park on Bray Road.
Speaker 4: The cops will tell you to get off the road.
Speaker 4: We were there three hours. No one told us. Ashley,
Speaker 4: a police officer came up and said, what are you
Speaker 4: guys doing. I said, we're doing a We're doing a
Speaker 4: Beast Bray Road video documentary and uh, He's like, oh,
Speaker 4: I have fun. And I said, well, have you had
Speaker 4: any any encounters? He said, now, but have a great night.
Speaker 4: Any Nobody bothered us, So it was It was incredible
Speaker 4: and that's where I met Steve though. So Steve was there,
Speaker 4: he was walking up and down Bray Road and so yeah,
Speaker 4: so we could literally say that we met on Bray Road.
Speaker 3: As only Steve would woke up and down Bray Road.
Speaker 4: And Steve, well, then Steve. I always have to thank
Speaker 4: Steve because uh, he got me in to speak at
Speaker 4: the Mothman Festival a couple of years ago. That was
Speaker 4: a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: I cannot imagine I got to get to the Mothman
Speaker 2: Fest one of these yees.
Speaker 4: God. I there in twenty twenty four, and I'll tell you, man,
Speaker 4: there was a mile long line of people waiting to
Speaker 4: get into the Mothmaan Museum in Treble. I sold a
Speaker 4: ton of books that day. I hung out with the
Speaker 4: guys from Mountain Monsters too.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, that's where I want to
Speaker 2: go because that sounds up. Malasia are going to be
Speaker 2: there this year or something. I'm like, I should take
Speaker 2: my daughter because.
Speaker 3: We love that.
Speaker 4: Those guys are awesome. Man. I hung out with Jeff
Speaker 4: Jeff row.
Speaker 3: Wow and will go to be jealous.
Speaker 4: And then when I was when I was heading home
Speaker 4: the next day, I was leaving the hotel who It's
Speaker 4: a foggy morning, right, and who do I see coming
Speaker 4: through the mist? But Wild Bill, I'll get out of town.
Speaker 3: Really, go Bill, I really, Oh my gosh, you know what.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest and this maybe shows my my Juno mindset,
Speaker 2: but Mountain Monsters would be my top five paranormal shows
Speaker 2: of all time. My daughter and I love it. My
Speaker 2: girlfriend has to suffer it because she'll come over and
Speaker 2: we'll be marathoning it. And Sam has to just sit
Speaker 2: there and watch Mountain Monts.
Speaker 4: There was nothing like when Trapper was on the show.
Speaker 4: Though on the show, Trapper had some of the greatest
Speaker 4: one liners. Man, it was just unbelievable. He was a great,
Speaker 4: great guy and very I mean he's sorely missed by
Speaker 4: a lot of the fans, you know. And but yeah, no,
Speaker 4: it's a great show. Those guys are awesome. And I'm
Speaker 4: actually trying to see if I could get Jeff and
Speaker 4: Willie and maybe some of those guys Huckleberry and maybe
Speaker 4: Wild built to one of my conventions.
Speaker 2: You should, because they do cons I know, I wish
Speaker 2: I knew the backstory, just because I'm curious, But I
Speaker 2: know that that Willy and Jeff Row have their own
Speaker 2: show now, and wild Bill and Buck and Huckleberry have there.
Speaker 2: So there's been I don't know if there's any animosity,
Speaker 2: but there seems to have been a split and three
Speaker 2: of them are doing one show and two of them
Speaker 2: are doing a different show.
Speaker 4: So yeah, now those guys are awesome. Yeah, they're great.
Speaker 4: And I mean, and you know, talk to those guys too.
Speaker 4: You know, I thought, Okay, the show is a little
Speaker 4: on the humorous side too, but these guys are really
Speaker 4: serious when it comes to the research, you know, and
Speaker 4: what they're doing. So it's uh, and they've they've jumped,
Speaker 4: they've come up on some things that you know, they
Speaker 4: can't explain. So it's really really wild.
Speaker 2: Now Matt Auckland wants to visit with us. When you
Speaker 2: come down. He says, where is Lee's Farm? He'll be
Speaker 2: willing to come and be the bait.
Speaker 4: There you go, Matt, there, there you go. Lee's Farms
Speaker 4: in Elkhorn, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: So just behind Bray Road, like it just kind of
Speaker 2: is you have to kind of go around to get
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 3: It's just the actual strip right.
Speaker 4: And it's incredible property too, you know, And I made
Speaker 4: the mistake, you know, that day when we were doing
Speaker 4: the reconnaissance earlier in the day, I wound up baiting
Speaker 4: that area with steak bones the night that we had
Speaker 4: the night before and all day and all day and
Speaker 4: into the night. I'm thinking, hmm, I'm wondering if that
Speaker 4: was a good or bad idea and it was a
Speaker 4: crazy investigation Dean, I'll tell you, man, that was just
Speaker 4: it changed my whole perspective on what's out there.
Speaker 2: I've watched the episodes. They're really good. They're staggering accurately.
Speaker 2: We have a question from Horrorce for you, man. We're
Speaker 2: gonna be talking about your book. We're gonna have to
Speaker 2: segue there in a minute because we're meant to be
Speaker 2: in the Poconos and we're stuck in We're stuck in
Speaker 2: in wis concept Horror Smith, who I mentioned before, good
Speaker 2: friend the show. Professor Emorus of astronomy and physics at
Speaker 2: Michigan State University asks you did your crew Eric have
Speaker 2: jewel cameras to try to verify odd things that are
Speaker 2: seen from different cameras. It may be tough to do
Speaker 2: that in practice, but I know horror is an astronomer
Speaker 2: is thinking if you can maybe triangulate or something with different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be you know, when you don't have
Speaker 4: a huge television crew budget kind of thing, you know,
Speaker 4: you're kind of down to one person on one camera.
Speaker 4: So that's kind of what we're dealing with right now.
Speaker 4: As much as I love that, it's always good to
Speaker 4: have two cameras, but now what we've been doing, if
Speaker 4: we're doing like a ghost investigation or even like a
Speaker 4: cryptid investigation, now I'm having Dominic on his on his
Speaker 4: camera walking around getting his testimony, what he's dealing with
Speaker 4: and what he's feeling and sensing, and then I'm adding
Speaker 4: I'm adding that into the videos as well.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: We just did the Jim Thorpe Visitor Center last week
Speaker 4: and my god man, we had so much crazy activity there.
Speaker 4: Dominic was going up the stairs and as they're going
Speaker 4: up the stairs, Aboard literally falls right in their way
Speaker 4: of them going up the stairs. Where this was the
Speaker 4: Jim Thorpe Visitor Center.
Speaker 3: But where whereabouts is.
Speaker 4: That one in Pennsylvania in the Poconos? Gotcha in the Poconoes.
Speaker 4: It's it's a town called jim Thorpe. It's a great
Speaker 4: area named after Jim Thorpe. The the athlete and but yeah,
Speaker 4: so this was a crazy and a piece of wood
Speaker 4: came down, dropped over. It was almost like no, you
Speaker 4: can't come up this up these stairs. So and we
Speaker 4: were joined by another medium that night, Michelle Gallagher, and
Speaker 4: she's been on a couple of investigations with us before.
Speaker 4: She actually owns in jim Thorpe owns a place called
Speaker 4: the Dimmick House. It's a bed and breakfast. We did
Speaker 4: a Dean This is another thing we did. I mean
Speaker 4: I've never done this before and we did it. We
Speaker 4: did a seance at this house at a house and
Speaker 4: we were all sitting at the table and people could
Speaker 4: see this video. It's called Eric ben Tell investigates the
Speaker 4: Spirits of the Dimmick House. And at the end there
Speaker 4: we have the candle burning. All of a sudden, Michelle
Speaker 4: is talking about the owner of the previous owner and
Speaker 4: with that boom, a big flame shoots out from the candle.
Speaker 4: And then Kate was there with us as well. She's
Speaker 4: talking about the previous owner and she says, John, if
Speaker 4: you're here, show us a sign. And you could see
Speaker 4: all of our hands are on the table. There's a
Speaker 4: big long shot of us. You could see no one
Speaker 4: else is in the house, no one's outside. Middle of
Speaker 4: the night, and you hear knocking your knocks and I
Speaker 4: heard one knock on the thing. But then in post
Speaker 4: I turned up the volume a little bit more to
Speaker 4: see if there was anything out there. Four or five
Speaker 4: knocks right after wow, and you could hear that, and
Speaker 4: you could see us all reacting to what the hell
Speaker 4: did we just hear? So something was there. So that
Speaker 4: was something. And all night during that seance at the
Speaker 4: end there we kept hearing things coming through the living room.
Speaker 4: Stuff was moving around, all this rustling. It was just crazy.
Speaker 4: And and then we of course at the end of that,
Speaker 4: people say, but are you afraid of things coming home
Speaker 4: with you? We Dominic sets the boundaries before we do that,
Speaker 4: and so did Michelle sets these boundaries and then all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, just you know, that's it closes it down,
Speaker 4: and that was it. But that was an incredible investigation too.
Speaker 4: And you know, I was more on the early on.
Speaker 4: I was really more on the fence and on this
Speaker 4: more on the skeptical side when it came to the ghosts.
Speaker 4: But now having done these videos and captured what were
Speaker 4: capturing on video, I'm like, what, there's a real thin
Speaker 4: veil from here to there, and you know, we're capturing
Speaker 4: this stuff and people are sensing this, and I also
Speaker 4: think that people are connected to the spirit world UFO's bigfoot. I.
Speaker 4: Whenever we're on these investigations, I eventually I inevitably say
Speaker 4: to people, you know, have you ever had any paranormal
Speaker 4: experiences in your own personal life besides being here at
Speaker 4: this location? And ninety nine percent of the time they're like, yes,
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 3: That's a good question, that's a very good question.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So it's a connection. It's it's incredible.
Speaker 2: And do you think I mean, given that you've you've
Speaker 2: just released this book, and given of all the investigations
Speaker 2: that you've done in this part of the world, do
Speaker 2: you think it's maybe what kil would call a window
Speaker 2: area or is this something about the Poconos that you
Speaker 2: think is particularly draws these kind of experience inswers or
Speaker 2: these manifestations. Is there is there something either geologically or
Speaker 2: orally or.
Speaker 4: That's a great question. Geologically, yes, Uh, lots of granite,
Speaker 4: lots of granite in there is a lot of limestone
Speaker 4: in that area as well. Limestone, for some reason is
Speaker 4: a conductor for these for these things, right, But that's
Speaker 4: that was one idea. But also it's a very very
Speaker 4: spiritual area, very much Native American Lenape tribe was there,
Speaker 4: so very very spiritual in that respect. You know, we've
Speaker 4: we've the Shawnee Indians have been there. You know, that's
Speaker 4: why we you know, they have all these different places,
Speaker 4: the Shawnee Inn, the Shawnee Playhouse, that's all of these
Speaker 4: places that we've investigated, and a lot of times Dominic
Speaker 4: will definitely tune in on those Native American spirits and
Speaker 4: people will see Native Americans in some of these spirit
Speaker 4: forms in these locations. So yeah, it's a very very
Speaker 4: highly rich spiritual area.
Speaker 2: Do you and it is the book do you consider
Speaker 2: like a companion piece to the show? Like is it
Speaker 2: is it? Does it fill in some of the gaps
Speaker 2: that you don't have the time to do in a
Speaker 2: television show.
Speaker 4: It does? Yeah, it's like it's like it exactly like
Speaker 4: a companion to the show. And so obviously we were
Speaker 4: doing the video and then it's a book about the
Speaker 4: anecdotes of that of that particular investigation, and you know,
Speaker 4: so yeah, we chronicled all of the different investigations and
Speaker 4: I got up I think I got up to fifteen investigations,
Speaker 4: so fifteen chapters. Yeah, and then we're going to do
Speaker 4: another one. I'll do volume two next year. When we
Speaker 4: do this next season, the new season coming up is
Speaker 4: going to be unbelievable. We've got we're going to be
Speaker 4: doing more cryptids. We're going to be doing another Bigfoot
Speaker 4: investigation up in Jim Thwart Machunk Lake. Again. This report
Speaker 4: that this guy to the name of Will Yerger and
Speaker 4: a really great guy. He's a new father. This guy
Speaker 4: has got nothing to gain at all by this story,
Speaker 4: but this is something profound that happened to him, and
Speaker 4: he wanted to tell the story. And look, Dean, you
Speaker 4: know and you know this too, we're good at discerning
Speaker 4: the truth from the bs, right, you know when people
Speaker 4: are talking and I feel like, you know, it's like
Speaker 4: a when you're interviewing witnesses and they're having this this
Speaker 4: hard time coming up with him getting goosebumps and they're
Speaker 4: having this something profoundly happened to them, right, right, And
Speaker 4: then to show the photographic evidence that he was able
Speaker 4: to get as well, so really interesting stuff. So he
Speaker 4: was you know, he was a great witness and I
Speaker 4: can't wait for this new episode to come out. But
Speaker 4: we're going to do more. We're going to do a
Speaker 4: follow up on that. A woman reached out to me
Speaker 4: who's been having activity on her horse farm for over
Speaker 4: thirty years. So this ties into another report that happened
Speaker 4: in the Earth nineties up there. So you know, people
Speaker 4: might think, what what is Bigfoot doing here on the
Speaker 4: East coast? You know, he was I thought he was
Speaker 4: on the West Coast. But I think Bigfoot sightings have
Speaker 4: been more per capita on the East Coast than they
Speaker 4: have in the West Coast, only because on the West
Speaker 4: Coast you've got a lot of areas that are not populated, right,
Speaker 4: so you know you're not going to get those reports.
Speaker 4: You may get the one straight you know, the standard
Speaker 4: report of somebody seeing that. But why you're getting so
Speaker 4: many reports out here is because it's more populated, absolutely,
Speaker 4: you know, and you're seeing and people are having this,
Speaker 4: So I think they're all over the country.
Speaker 2: No, I mean that seems to be the be the case.
Speaker 2: Steve Ward made another great comment in response to your
Speaker 2: when we were talking about how great your questions were
Speaker 2: about if people have had other strange experiences. And I
Speaker 2: thought about it funnily enough when you said it. But
Speaker 2: Steve's points worth rating for people who are only listening
Speaker 2: to the show. Steve Ward says, John Keele found that
Speaker 2: even the vidual has a UFO or cryptid experience, they
Speaker 2: likely have had paranormal experiences all their lives. So it's
Speaker 2: this repeat kind of experiencer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally agree. I mean, you know, the other thing
Speaker 4: is too. The other theory was sometimes could we as
Speaker 4: human beings be creating the paranormal? Could we manifesting that? Right?
Speaker 3: You know, I think I think that's likely.
Speaker 2: I think there's a there's a co creation element at
Speaker 2: the very least, there's somehow we aren't separate from what
Speaker 2: we're experiencing. And that doesn't mean there isn't a genuine
Speaker 2: anomalous external intelligence or external phenomenon to us, but I
Speaker 2: think we're far more connected to it than traditional beliefs
Speaker 2: have led us to to think totally.
Speaker 4: And there's just I mean, there's so many things now.
Speaker 4: I was reached out about maybe about a month two
Speaker 4: months ago, and we're gonna still do something with this
Speaker 4: gentleman he called me from Massachusetts. He said there's a
Speaker 4: lot of weird UFO stuff going on up in Massachusetts,
Speaker 4: a lot of it. He's been having abduction experiences since
Speaker 4: he's been nine years old, and he wants to be
Speaker 4: regressed and wants to find out what is what's going
Speaker 4: on with him. And I talked to him and he's
Speaker 4: a great guy. Talked to him and he sent me pictures.
Speaker 4: He just he's a sweet fifty seven Chevy that just
Speaker 4: won awards, you know, so he's he's he's a car
Speaker 4: guy too, you know. So, but he's been having these
Speaker 4: crazy experiences his whole life, as have other people up
Speaker 4: in that area. So now this is something that we're
Speaker 4: gonna really kind of look into.
Speaker 3: And again it's a good show. That'd be all of
Speaker 3: the classic cause as well.
Speaker 4: Oh exactly. But yeah, just to your point, you know,
Speaker 4: like there's something there that we're not creating. That's something
Speaker 4: thing that's happening, you know. And so but all these
Speaker 4: different things, missing time, abductions, it's it's got it. It's
Speaker 4: all like we did in this video. Like what I
Speaker 4: said to Mike last night, I said, Mike, you know,
Speaker 4: we'll never know, Well, like we might, we might kind
Speaker 4: of get an idea of what's out there, what's going on.
Speaker 4: But unless it lands right in front of us, we're
Speaker 4: not going to know what it is. You know, it's
Speaker 4: it's what are these plasmoid? Now? Now it's a plasmoid
Speaker 4: right form? You know?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: The funny thing too is to me at least is
Speaker 2: a big fan of Philip K. Dick, who's probably the
Speaker 2: most important science fiction author at least in my in
Speaker 2: my taste in the twentieth century. He wrote Blade Runner
Speaker 2: and you know, Minority Report, Yeah, all these kind of things.
Speaker 2: He suggested he had experiences towards the end of his
Speaker 2: life that seemed to be he was having contact with
Speaker 2: a non human potentially extraterrestrial intelligence, and he called that
Speaker 2: intelligence variously valus or zebra. And it seemed that these
Speaker 2: things were he coined the term almost for this, that
Speaker 2: they were they were plasmoids. They were they were a
Speaker 2: life form of a different, differently composed than we were.
Speaker 2: And in the exegesis of Philip K. Dick that another
Speaker 2: friend of mine, Gabriel McKee, worked on that book, which
Speaker 2: was something he wrote which was just his philosophy really,
Speaker 2: and that was it wasn't released too long after his death.
Speaker 3: In that book, he.
Speaker 2: Talks about how interestingly UFOs kind of behave the way
Speaker 2: Vallis does. Here it's here one minute, it's hit there
Speaker 2: another minute. It appears this way for one person, that
Speaker 2: way for another person. So there seems to be the
Speaker 2: idea of this, this plasmoid idea. And I saw I
Speaker 2: saw flat Rockland Matt Auckland comment on that before the
Speaker 2: the significance of plasmoids.
Speaker 3: I think there's something there.
Speaker 2: I think there maybe this isn't the life form very
Speaker 2: different to the way we think of life traditionally.
Speaker 4: I go back right, and I go back to a
Speaker 4: report I got uh from a couple on a ship
Speaker 4: in the middle of the Bahamas at midnight, they saw
Speaker 4: that what they thought was fireworks and here it turned
Speaker 4: out that it was these weird tweeting type things going
Speaker 4: over the water. And then it was like in there
Speaker 4: they looked like plasma. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: a huge orange orb came out of the water and
Speaker 4: went after those things. So it's like, is this is
Speaker 4: this a new life form? That's the whole thing?
Speaker 3: Is this?
Speaker 4: But has it been here? That's the other thing. You know,
Speaker 4: the oceans have not been explored nearly as much as
Speaker 4: the space has, you know, so we've got a lot
Speaker 4: in our oceans that could be I found a very
Speaker 4: interesting anecdote when we were at the fusee. The woman
Speaker 4: told us, you know, fish can survive g forces fish
Speaker 4: because of their physiology. So with that, they did an
Speaker 4: experiment where scientists, actually a scientist got into water and
Speaker 4: in this like tube and they hooked it underneath the
Speaker 4: centrifuge in water and they spun the fugeon. They were
Speaker 4: able to survive thirty g's in water. Oh wow, So
Speaker 4: now Dean, you've got what do we have? Usos unidentified
Speaker 4: some meerge objects rights trans medium UFOs going in the water,
Speaker 4: coming out of the water, going in the sky. So
Speaker 4: and it was fascinating to be there because I'm like,
Speaker 4: I'm looking at all this stuff and these molded chairs
Speaker 4: where that's where the pilots would sit into these molded
Speaker 4: chairs because it would keep all of their blood vessels
Speaker 4: and corpuscles from flowing down to their feet, you know.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, where did they come up with this?
Speaker 4: Unless they had seen it somewhere before. And I always
Speaker 4: go back to Roswell. I always go back to what happened,
Speaker 4: because this facility it opened up three years after Roswell.
Speaker 4: So I always think to myself, could there be that technology?
Speaker 4: You know, there was a lot of things that came
Speaker 4: out of that fiber optics, you know, transistors and all
Speaker 4: kinds of stuff like that. Something to myself, could there
Speaker 4: be that connection as well? You know it's again, you know,
Speaker 4: I know I'm going down a whole one.
Speaker 3: No, I think it's interesting to me.
Speaker 2: It's a particularly interesting topic that the idea of these
Speaker 2: trance medium ships for starters. Ivan Sanderson, who was good
Speaker 2: friends with John Keel, wrote a book suggesting that these
Speaker 2: things might be from beneath the oceans back in the
Speaker 2: sixties exactly, but pre dating Ivan Sanderson, Raymond Palmer and
Speaker 2: Richard Shaver, who anybody who regularly watches the show knows
Speaker 2: I spend way too much time thinking about and talking about.
Speaker 2: I made one short documentary, The Shaver of Mystery, and
Speaker 2: I'm still making the feature documentary The Man who Invented
Speaker 2: Flying sources about these two men. But Richard Shaver said
Speaker 2: that there was this race of people he called the
Speaker 2: sea people that were part of the antediluvial races here
Speaker 2: and they had these type of ships, and everybody dismissed
Speaker 2: Shaver like he's mad, it's crazy. But now you see
Speaker 2: like Congress like hearings, they're talking about trans medium ships
Speaker 2: and you know, and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, we have Shaver was here today, he'd be saying, well,
Speaker 3: I told you this literally in the mid nineteen forties.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 2: I told you this before Roswell. I told you this
Speaker 2: before Kenneth Arnold even saw anything. And now you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: well I was already talking about it. So it's so
Speaker 2: funny to see this stuff coming like full circle to me.
Speaker 4: Exactly. Yeah, you know, it's amazing. And your document, I
Speaker 4: can't wait till you get that done. Man, that's gonna
Speaker 4: be awesome. I mean you've done a lot of research.
Speaker 4: You've done a lot of work on that, man, so
Speaker 4: you got to get that thing done.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been I thought it would take me a year.
Speaker 2: It's taken me like four or something. I'm still going
Speaker 2: I did have a wonderful short out of it. I
Speaker 2: ever said you were linked to.
Speaker 3: The Shaver mystery.
Speaker 4: I don't think you did said you.
Speaker 2: Were linked to the short which is almost finishes fest
Speaker 2: run now been played almost thirty firsts at one like
Speaker 2: literally ten Best Short Documentary Awards.
Speaker 3: I'll send you a link, please do.
Speaker 4: That'd be awesome and people could get the new book.
Speaker 2: That's what we need to talk about just quickly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: let's talk about that before we say goodbye. Let's let's
Speaker 2: put this on the screen. So pitch the book a
Speaker 2: little bit more. Yeah, prize into the series. Tell me
Speaker 2: where people can get it.
Speaker 4: They can get it right on Amazon right now. And
Speaker 4: it's fifteen chapters dealing with everything from all of the
Speaker 4: venues in the Poconos, the Harry Packer Mansion, Shawnee in
Speaker 4: Skytop Lodge, all of these incredible, incredible venues, Sherman Theater
Speaker 4: and if any of your listeners are in Pennsylvania, October fourth,
Speaker 4: we've got a great, great paranormal convention happening at the
Speaker 4: Sherman Theater from twelve to six in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania, and
Speaker 4: that's going to be incredible. We've got speakers, vendors, We've
Speaker 4: got Gene Steak and Natalia Stico talking about her father
Speaker 4: sent her plans where they were reverse engineering Soviet UFOs
Speaker 4: in the fifties and sixties. Wow, incredible story. And then
Speaker 4: we've got Tom Carrey is going to be talking about
Speaker 4: Roswell deathbed confessions. Dominic and I are going to be
Speaker 4: there talking about paranormal in the Poconos. James Krug is
Speaker 4: going to be there as well, talking about crop circles.
Speaker 4: And then we've got Mike Famlint talking about Bigfoot. So
Speaker 4: he's got in the shadow of Big Red Eye. And
Speaker 4: it's a really great, great bunch of great vendors, great speakers.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have a lot of fun. And that's gonna
Speaker 4: be October fourth, from twelve to six at the Sherman
Speaker 4: Theater in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania. And then my book is available
Speaker 4: on Amazon dot com. I've got a couple of books available.
Speaker 4: And then people could see us on the Pocono Television
Speaker 4: Network any night of the week. Every night of the week.
Speaker 4: We're on seven o'clock and you guys can download their
Speaker 4: free app. It's a free app and you could see
Speaker 4: it any anywhere in the world. And then new episodes
Speaker 4: are on Saturday nights at eight o'clock. And like I said,
Speaker 4: this Saturday, we're going to have the new Bigfoot episode,
Speaker 4: which is going to blow everybody.
Speaker 3: Away, madam. Looking so forward to it.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be awesome.
Speaker 2: It's always so awesome to have you visit me on
Speaker 2: Talking Weed, and I'm glad this time we had you
Speaker 2: back like we wereunning, like you know, ten episodes apart
Speaker 2: or something like now.
Speaker 4: Man, this is awesome. It's always a pleasure to talk
Speaker 4: with you, man, because again, we're all we're all in
Speaker 4: that like minded creative atmosphere, you know, and we and
Speaker 4: like everybody else, we just want answers too. We want
Speaker 4: to figure out what's going on out there.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Ain't that the truth? So thank you so much for
Speaker 2: visiting with me, mate, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Brother.
Speaker 4: Let's let's do it again. And let's do it again
Speaker 4: and get all the team on and we can do that.
Speaker 4: Let's do that again. Let's let's talk about that.
Speaker 2: Let's let's do that, like not six months away, Let's
Speaker 2: do that in the next two months.
Speaker 4: Sounds good. Even before that, that sounds.
Speaker 2: Wonderful, sounds great, mate, And until I talk to you again,
Speaker 2: which will be when we get ready to prep that episode,
Speaker 2: which sounds amazing, until I get to talk to everybody
Speaker 2: else out there, which will be same. Weird time Thursday,
Speaker 2: nine pm Central. Next week, same weird network, the Untold
Speaker 2: Radio Network.
Speaker 3: Please keep it weird.