Speaker 1: Get ready.
Speaker 2: January seventeen, twenty twenty five, we are live just a
Speaker 2: little bit after eight pm Eastern and what we used
Speaker 2: to call America, and this slightly, ever so occasionally frozen
Speaker 2: part of Georgia where I'm sitting, my cos BP is
Speaker 2: sitting somewhere else. I think it's even a different FEMA region,
Speaker 2: but it's not too far away from me anyway. Hope
Speaker 2: you're doing good wherever you are. And if you're not
Speaker 2: hearing this on the January seventeenth day, three days before
Speaker 2: inauguration and Trump Booberrales and all that, if you're not
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Speaker 2: I had a curious revelation. I haven't fully worked it
Speaker 2: out in my mind, but finally I think I have
Speaker 2: a way to explain once and for all if anybody
Speaker 2: actually listens about what my actual because I'm always being
Speaker 2: accused of what my political agenda is with everything, and
Speaker 2: nobody ever nails it. It's hilarious. You guys never get it.
Speaker 2: You complain when I step on yours but you don't
Speaker 2: know what it is. I think you make assumptions. It's funny. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I have a way to explain it. I might get
Speaker 2: to that later. But then again, this show is not
Speaker 2: about me. It's about you. And if you want to
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Speaker 2: reach out to me Charles dot o'helly on Skype, and
Speaker 2: if you ask me to on Skype via text, I
Speaker 2: will include you in the show if Skype allows it.
Speaker 2: Last week I had troubles getting somebody on, but I
Speaker 2: don't seem to have trouble getting all kinds of crazy
Speaker 2: people on there, including lots of these bots and uh,
Speaker 2: internet hookers and you know, camera sluts whatever. I don't
Speaker 2: know whatever they are. You know now they need me
Speaker 2: to translate stuff. Will you accept this translation? No, I
Speaker 2: don't know who this jick is. Go away? Uh? Anyway,
Speaker 2: it is what it is. They're all twenty four, they
Speaker 2: just got out of university in their horny and they
Speaker 2: want to talk to me because I looked so good
Speaker 2: in the Skype directory. Anyways. Three one nine five two
Speaker 2: seven five zero one six BPTE Is that a chaotic
Speaker 2: enough intro for this week. What do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it has been chaotic this week. This
Speaker 3: is the worst thing. My Michael Wave decides to blow
Speaker 3: up like last first no Friday Saturday.
Speaker 2: Did it do it dramatic or did it just die?
Speaker 3: No, it kind of got dramatic. It started making some
Speaker 3: grumbling noises. Imagine dropping a mason jar full of uh
Speaker 3: nuts that go on bolts into a transmission.
Speaker 2: Oh nice, that kind of noise.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was. It was kind of weird, so I
Speaker 3: unplugged it. So was one of those guys he would
Speaker 3: set up right before you got a hold of me
Speaker 3: on the skype.
Speaker 2: So cool, spinning busy? Was it the spinning platform mechanism
Speaker 2: that like went crazy and started making you know, crazy
Speaker 2: mechanical noe?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's. I think it's the motor underneath
Speaker 3: that drives the rotating glass plate on the three wheeled ring.
Speaker 3: It started rumbling, and I mean rumbling. It was something
Speaker 3: was It sounded like metal on metal there for a minute,
Speaker 3: so I just went I had to shut it off
Speaker 3: a bun.
Speaker 2: You know the only thing that's worse than that is
Speaker 2: when you work with it. You know, the commercial ones
Speaker 2: that yeah, we had.
Speaker 3: My my wife had one light that was built like
Speaker 3: a commercial one, and it caught on fire in the
Speaker 3: upper inside ceiling of the cooking compartment. That's because coffee
Speaker 3: in there. Yeah, the thing catches on fire and it
Speaker 3: starts dripping plastic into my coffee. And I'm like, whoa dude, Yeah, curiously,
Speaker 3: what happens? Sure to put it out.
Speaker 2: See those microwaves, and I've got one of those in
Speaker 2: my house now. But here's the key to it. You
Speaker 2: can't install it in your house. It's a bad idea
Speaker 2: because the problem is there's a big vent on all
Speaker 2: of those, the old ones. I don't know what they're
Speaker 2: like if you get new equipment. I mean, you know, listen,
Speaker 2: we live in Georgia.
Speaker 3: What I got from the guy when I've got all
Speaker 3: the stuff from the kitchen, the glass top stove and
Speaker 3: all that, he has an upper exhaust van with the
Speaker 3: microwave built in right so it winds right out the back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to have that with the commercial ones, especially.
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I mean I used to. At
Speaker 2: one point we were buying these things for about twenty
Speaker 2: five bucks, and you know, it didn't matter and they
Speaker 2: weighed like two pounds. You know. Those didn't have an
Speaker 2: exhaust van and worked just fine, I thought. But the ones,
Speaker 2: the commercial ones, the old ones are heavy as hell
Speaker 2: and they blow this air out of them that if
Speaker 2: you track that the wrong way.
Speaker 3: Remember the first one is the older man of radar ranges.
Speaker 2: I don't remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've vented like that, had a blower in the
Speaker 3: back of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. See, I remember when they called them radar range.
Speaker 2: I do remember that, but it stopped real quick when
Speaker 2: I was a kid, because I'm a little younger than you,
Speaker 2: But I do remember that. There was a lot of
Speaker 2: grumbling and rumbling when stuff wasn't going wrong. But the
Speaker 2: only way other to get those sort of noises you
Speaker 2: got to throw a fork in that sucker or something,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And people do it. And
Speaker 2: what's weird is nowadays, you know they even have these things.
Speaker 2: Remember of it was always like, don't put anything metal
Speaker 2: in here, no matter what. Okay, oh yeah yeah, And
Speaker 2: people would make a mistake, you know, there'd be a
Speaker 2: metal ring around the plate and sparks would start flying.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that. But what's weird today is you see
Speaker 2: these little like mini chef boy ard things that are
Speaker 2: supposed to be microwaved on the run, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a new type of metal, alboy, they can use.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and apparently you know, you pull the pop top off,
Speaker 2: but there's still a metal ring around there. That reminds
Speaker 2: me of the rings that used to be around plates
Speaker 2: that would catch stuff on fire in the microwave. I
Speaker 2: mean people would like explode potatoes accidentally because they put
Speaker 2: metal in with it.
Speaker 3: You ever see a pat to go to the quick
Speaker 3: mark and remember the first ones that came out the
Speaker 3: convenience stores that had the like on the toast, VENs
Speaker 3: had the knob that you turned for the number of
Speaker 3: minutes oh yeah, or the digital crap come out. I
Speaker 3: mean it was nothing to you know, set an egg
Speaker 3: in there and crank that sucker to five minutes and
Speaker 3: walk out pay for whatever your getting. Didn't walk out
Speaker 3: of the place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just because the guy was a douche. She it's
Speaker 2: like you clean that up, uh and you know he's gone.
Speaker 2: And people did stuff like that to me too, not
Speaker 2: even when I was being a douche. Wild always amazed me,
Speaker 2: you know, like, uh, it's the other phenomenon that people
Speaker 2: do it get the gas station convenience store too. Is
Speaker 2: they totally destroy the bathroom.
Speaker 3: And oh, we've got there's a play right around the
Speaker 3: corner from where we're working. That when all of the
Speaker 3: subcontractors are there with their crews go in there to
Speaker 3: use their microwave, the guy started charging them a buck.
Speaker 3: He says, you guys are wearing out my damn microwave.
Speaker 3: I gotta buy another one, he says, I almost start charging. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'll let you use it. It was gonna cost you a dollar.
Speaker 3: See they pay the dollar.
Speaker 2: That almost makes considering. I mean, you're going in there,
Speaker 2: you're using the guy's electricity, and if you're not getting
Speaker 2: them in any money for what it is you're heating
Speaker 2: up in there, you're using the convenience of his stuff
Speaker 2: and giving him no benefits.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, it's not like you're buying something
Speaker 3: of his that needs to be you're beating up your lunch.
Speaker 2: Well right, but but you're still using your you know,
Speaker 2: his electricity. You might grab some napkins on your way out,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: So he's got four of them on the counter, so
Speaker 3: you don't have to wait when you buy something in there. Well,
Speaker 3: it's got plenty of.
Speaker 2: Mic away for him to us. But yeah, but that's smart.
Speaker 3: Start charging the buck, they pay it.
Speaker 2: I would I would see it as very fair dollar.
Speaker 2: Sure done, you know what I mean. I wouldn't even
Speaker 2: argue with that. Not like that hotel a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago in Dallas. They were like, yeah, you want
Speaker 2: to sowda at fifteen dollars? All right? Well man, anyway,
Speaker 2: and why do I go to the bone room? What's
Speaker 2: the bone room? Well, you know, we just have bike
Speaker 2: skeletal bones sticking out of the wall for no parent
Speaker 2: freaking reason because we're artsy. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: here's a painting. And it's a curious painting because it's
Speaker 2: actually a brush, a fancy frame on the ceiling, crooked,
Speaker 2: enjoy yourselves.
Speaker 3: At least there was a brush in one. There was
Speaker 3: another one that was just a frame.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because somebody probably tore the damn brush out.
Speaker 3: That was the most pretentious place I've ever been to
Speaker 3: in my life.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But you know, apparently this no accepting cash thing
Speaker 2: is catching on in a lot of weird places. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not everywhere. Some people are panicking because you know.
Speaker 3: Some places I can see doing it because it does
Speaker 3: cut down on their chances of a robbery. Of course,
Speaker 3: people know, you know, you know, some business stops accepting cash.
Speaker 3: There's no cash on the premises. It's crazy, but I
Speaker 3: can't believe a major hotel in downtown Palace you could
Speaker 3: pay cash for anything else. You couldn't pay cash for
Speaker 3: your room.
Speaker 2: But what's hilarious you bought.
Speaker 3: Something at the restaurant, or if you bought something from
Speaker 3: the red Bull case, remember the one right over to
Speaker 3: the left of the check in desk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the little closet, the little closet by.
Speaker 3: Any of that, they'll take cash for that, but they
Speaker 3: wouldn't take cash for the room. And that's what kissed
Speaker 3: me off.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 3: Fundamentally screwed up, let's put it that way.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely much nicer in the hotel that we
Speaker 2: were at this year, which, by the way, we're starting
Speaker 2: work on this year's Lancer like in the next two weeks,
Speaker 2: and just for everybody's knowledge, I'm going to be a
Speaker 2: little more of an active participant and have a little
Speaker 2: more say in this.
Speaker 3: Year's Lancers presentation on tearing Judith's story apart, well, it
Speaker 3: would be about thirty minutes, but they wouldn't let me
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: But you know I have. But I'm telling you now,
Speaker 2: I'm a decision maker. Now, okay, so here's the deal.
Speaker 2: I want that. I want a panel of it, though
Speaker 2: I don't want one guy doing it. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: because you know, we had the weird phenomena again, but
Speaker 2: this time they paid to come in. They didn't try
Speaker 2: and sneak in without paid. They came in and bought
Speaker 2: day passes from the Judy conference. Okay, so so I
Speaker 2: was like, well, you know, you can't refuse them if
Speaker 2: they're actually pain but that crap they pulled in twenty
Speaker 2: seventeen was ridiculous. You know, they came in, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I have my land. You're yeah, sure, it doesn't say answer,
Speaker 2: you get the hell out of here. There's what should
Speaker 2: have been said. But nobody did it, you know, and
Speaker 2: I wasn't in charge of nothing. I had a presentation
Speaker 2: and kind of well, i'll.
Speaker 3: Tell you what, then find four or five other people
Speaker 3: that want to tear apart a specific person in their theory,
Speaker 3: and we'll put a panel together. Well look, it's like
Speaker 3: we're not singing one person out. No, it's like next
Speaker 3: year if nobody does it, I'll take on prayer Man.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I would love to have that too. As
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, again, you know, I don't want
Speaker 2: Carmine to do another Myths presentation. I would love you see,
Speaker 2: that's another thing we could do here. You and me
Speaker 2: being the core of the panel would be easy. And
Speaker 2: we just need two people because four is a much
Speaker 2: better I tried to run a five member panel and
Speaker 2: it really left one person out live. It was too
Speaker 2: hard to manage, in my opinion. I know weckt conference
Speaker 2: pulled it off and all that, but you know that's
Speaker 2: another thing. I mean, you know, we do recall that
Speaker 2: Cyril's gone. Okay Cyril, out of respect to Ceial. People
Speaker 2: were able to handle themselves in a five member panel,
Speaker 2: but when you got you know, it's not that it's
Speaker 2: not enough room on the stage. It's not enough room
Speaker 2: for the ego on the stage that's going to come
Speaker 2: along with some of these people. You know that. So
Speaker 2: I'll be there just as a moderator and just enjoy
Speaker 2: everybody else's clips and not step on anybody. I'll be happy.
Speaker 2: But other people don't necessarily function that way. Okay, So
Speaker 2: if it's you and me, I say we get two
Speaker 2: more and if you don't like the Judy focus, cool,
Speaker 2: you know what, let's do a myths panel. What about
Speaker 2: the mythology connected to the case. And yes, this is mythology,
Speaker 2: not facts. Not oh that might be your opinion. No,
Speaker 2: this is the garbage. Okay, and it's time to take
Speaker 2: it out. And I'm telling you now I've got a
Speaker 2: green light on that for Lancer.
Speaker 4: You just get.
Speaker 3: Into Remember when Fetcher came out with his book Assassination Science.
Speaker 2: First, Yeah, it was the first one on the case
Speaker 2: that had did.
Speaker 3: David Mandick in it and a couple other people, a.
Speaker 2: Bunch of other people. Every chapter was a different person.
Speaker 3: Douglas, did you ever look into the blink rate of
Speaker 3: the car? This would the blink where the blink rate?
Speaker 3: They were taking the rate of the blinkers, the four
Speaker 3: ways going on the car to try to show that
Speaker 3: the film had been altered because the rate changes or
Speaker 3: some crap. What It was done by a guy. He
Speaker 3: was a member of Ralph Sink's group. I don't think
Speaker 3: his name. He's the one who said he worked for
Speaker 3: the editor. And when Auchins came across the wire that
Speaker 3: you could tell it had been all I can't think
Speaker 3: his name, you know, anyway, just always that would always
Speaker 3: fascinated me. The blink rate.
Speaker 2: First release of Assassination Science, according to Amazon, was nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety eight UFA December thirty of nineteen ninety eight. What
Speaker 2: kind of a choice is that for a release date,
Speaker 2: by the way, But yeah, anyhow, I shouldn't criticize that
Speaker 2: there's plenty more to do there. Which, by the way,
Speaker 2: you ever see the picture of Fencer on Amazon.
Speaker 3: No, is it like the one that was at the
Speaker 3: Education form.
Speaker 2: It's one of those ones where he's got, you know,
Speaker 2: like for no apparent reason, you know, he just threw
Speaker 2: a blazer on top of a T shirt or something,
Speaker 2: and he's you know, looking very serious at a podium.
Speaker 3: One of those you know, hey, college professors. You know
Speaker 3: he had to look to look well.
Speaker 2: You know, that's true. He was still an active professor
Speaker 2: in ninety eight, so maybe, but well.
Speaker 3: Let's go a jacket on anything, you know, and call
Speaker 3: it present.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just I just scrolled down real quick. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of you know, clearly hill five star reviews,
Speaker 2: and then you go down a little and there's a
Speaker 2: couple of two star reviews, which are pretty funny, just
Speaker 2: saying and usually I don't even bother reading the reviews
Speaker 2: on Amazon because people are gaming that just like everything else,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Just to get a bunch of people to go in
Speaker 3: there in five star or something.
Speaker 2: Right. And by the way, Larry's book which just dropped,
Speaker 2: you know, the day that, the day before, I had
Speaker 2: the live conversation with him this week, which was a
Speaker 2: makeup show. We should have done that earlier, and obviously
Speaker 2: Dallas Action beat me to it. They literally had their
Speaker 2: book and their podcast out before I got my book anyway,
Speaker 2: regardless how sick I was or wasn't.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: But you know, I sat down with David and Larry
Speaker 2: because David Boilin is the co author, and I'm telling
Speaker 2: you now, this Oswald book is the best book out
Speaker 2: of all Larry's books, number one and number two. It
Speaker 2: acts as a reference book and something that you can
Speaker 2: read sequentially. So it's and I didn't even get to
Speaker 2: finish it, and I'm telling you right now, it's my
Speaker 2: highest recommended book on Oswald in a very very long time.
Speaker 2: I say, you put this on your shelf next to
Speaker 2: a copy of Groden's books. Not because of his commentary
Speaker 2: in the text, but because of the photographic content. You
Speaker 2: put those two things together and you get yourself a
Speaker 2: couple of dry references like his military record and like
Speaker 2: say Ernst Tittibit's book, and you've got him all the
Speaker 2: way around captured for real Oswald, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 2: and they did some reavals in here that are going
Speaker 2: to piss some people off that have been dining on
Speaker 2: certain images and assumptions on Oswald, which they just take apart,
Speaker 2: no problem and spoiler for that podcast real Fast. What
Speaker 2: do you think was my favorite question to get to
Speaker 2: ask either one of those authors, b Pete, what do
Speaker 2: you think?
Speaker 4: Well, I have no clue.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I love this. I have, as you may
Speaker 2: or may not have noticed, I do have a little
Speaker 2: bit of knowledge on say, what we might call organized
Speaker 2: crime history, and and I have opinions about it, very
Speaker 2: strong opinions about it. And I feel personal about it
Speaker 2: because I have a cultural connection and indeed family connections
Speaker 2: to some of the events that are most famously celebrated
Speaker 2: and are probably going to, you know, start to fade
Speaker 2: into the background as more history will be get You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of people think the mob is gone. It
Speaker 2: is not, but it is in a rebuilding phase, which
Speaker 2: is interesting. And you know, now they get taken to
Speaker 2: court for conspiracy to run illegal offshore online betting. You know,
Speaker 2: it's it's a slightly different game from you know, be
Speaker 2: a shame if something happened in this a nice window
Speaker 2: in your shop. You know, if you pay us, we
Speaker 2: can make sure that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: Well, you got to think about it though. Business wise.
Speaker 3: You just had all of these states legalized betting on sports,
Speaker 3: and that's just cutting into their damn business. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's like mom and pop sitting there and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden Walmart shows up right next door.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's but there's always going to be an
Speaker 2: unacceptable See here's the thing, there's always business. There's always
Speaker 2: going to be the unacceptable vice something. If it's not
Speaker 2: you know, booze when the country went crazy and went
Speaker 2: with temperance, let's you know, get rid of booze. If
Speaker 2: it's not that, you know, for them to thrive, if
Speaker 2: it's not gambling, if it's not prostitution, it'll be something
Speaker 2: that is denied you because of the current climate one
Speaker 2: way or another. I mean I can tell you this.
Speaker 2: Here's you know, one of the little celebrated facts. Nobody
Speaker 2: likes to talk about this because it's not super celebrated.
Speaker 2: But you know what, you wouldn't have as many gay
Speaker 2: bars across the country if it wasn't for the mob
Speaker 2: because they ran those things in states where that was illegal. Okay,
Speaker 2: they ran illegal vice for those people. And look, their
Speaker 2: money's as green as anybody else's. They don't want to
Speaker 2: hang around around them. Uh, but they'll take their money,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So, believe it or not,
Speaker 2: you got to accept certain innovations that come from the
Speaker 2: vice demand that is denied by the governmental bureaucrats. And
Speaker 2: there's always going to be something, like I said, if
Speaker 2: it's not gambling, if it's not you know some I mean,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I would pay a mobster if
Speaker 2: he could come up with a pre trans fat band
Speaker 2: bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken. I'd pay good money for that.
Speaker 2: Remember the Remember Kentucky Fried Chicken before they got rid
Speaker 2: of the transfats.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my whole diet would crap when that happened. So,
Speaker 3: you know it's people want to you know, they talk
Speaker 3: about additives and this and that. You know, there used
Speaker 3: to be some good food. Yeah, but I don't know
Speaker 3: why this issue with trans fats. It's like they somebody
Speaker 3: clings on to this theory that remember butter, butter was
Speaker 3: the worst thing you could ever do. Now they come
Speaker 3: to find out butter is not harmful in any way,
Speaker 3: just like anything in regular moderate use that people use. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's crazy.
Speaker 2: But the funny thing is just today.
Speaker 3: They said they're banning red guye number three. They go, well,
Speaker 3: you know, it's about damn time. I mean, what Europe
Speaker 3: banned this shit twenty thirty years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the funny thing. Remember when the eminem
Speaker 2: Eminem's had a problem. They're real quiet nowadays, nobody finds
Speaker 2: it anywhere in the history. But remember when they first
Speaker 2: came out with the red eminems and they went, whoops,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, if you eat too many of those,
Speaker 2: that's toxic. And it was Eminem's because they added red
Speaker 2: to the pack.
Speaker 3: And that's why you can't get fruit loops in switch
Speaker 3: from them.
Speaker 2: Uh. Probably I didn't know that directly. Why.
Speaker 3: I mean, when I was over there, they put out
Speaker 3: a list of items for people that are getting ready
Speaker 3: to come over. Yeah, not to bring I almost got
Speaker 3: busted for some vanilla wafers to make banana pudding. My
Speaker 3: girlfriend's daughter came over here for the summer with her
Speaker 3: and they were here for about two and a half,
Speaker 3: almost three months, and so she was eating the local
Speaker 3: stuff and my mom used to make banana pudding on Sundays, yeah, dinner.
Speaker 3: So when she went home, she said, when you come over,
Speaker 3: bring some banana pudding mix and some vanilla weight because
Speaker 3: they don't sell vanilla wafers over there.
Speaker 2: But right, and I mean vanilla wafers are funny because
Speaker 2: again it's practically like an old lady's tea biscuit. I
Speaker 2: mean it's it's not even a big deal.
Speaker 3: How many kids we were raised, you know where you
Speaker 3: throw you know, three vanilla wafers on their highchair tray
Speaker 3: and to keep them busy until dinner's done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's when they didn't cost six dollars a
Speaker 2: box though you know you could get a bus.
Speaker 3: Thank god. You know, cheerios and there's nothing in there.
Speaker 3: I think that they fan.
Speaker 2: No no cheerios, and universally, even when they don't have
Speaker 2: sugar or anything, kids like them. It's a weird phenomena.
Speaker 2: There's like, you know, he had Have you taken a
Speaker 2: handful of cheerios and just thrown them in your mouth recently?
Speaker 2: Like just no milk, no sugar, no nothing. Have you
Speaker 2: done that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I used to pour them into a tall cup
Speaker 3: when I'm sitting here working at the computer and snack on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I used to do that too, where you're almost
Speaker 2: drinking your snack, right, you kind of pour it in
Speaker 2: your mouth as you're going yeah, yeah, okay. Well but
Speaker 2: the funny thing is I do that now, and it's like,
Speaker 2: this is like styrofoam. Why the kids like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like it's not real tasty. It's not real bad either,
Speaker 2: you know, but I prefer the honey nuts.
Speaker 3: Get the honey nut cheerios. Yeah, the frosted cheerios are good.
Speaker 2: You see. I didn't dig the frosted, but the honey
Speaker 2: nut I could get into, you know.
Speaker 3: Fusted flakes. God knows. If I had a dollar for
Speaker 3: every bowl of frosted flakes I ate growing up, I
Speaker 3: could retire now.
Speaker 2: See. But there's another thing. They changed so many of
Speaker 2: these foods though, because they banned certain additives. They introduced
Speaker 2: stuff in that sugar.
Speaker 3: Pops, sugar smacks, they got rid of all of it.
Speaker 3: You're thinking, Jesus, well, kids today, I.
Speaker 2: Mean Digham probably was.
Speaker 3: We have a very protect in class. You know, you
Speaker 3: read the things on Facebook and social media. You know, Uh,
Speaker 3: you didn't drink from a garden hose and blah blah
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. We turned out just fine. And I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: you know, kids really missed out. Kids today have missed
Speaker 3: out on a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, look, I walked and lamented that little boys don't
Speaker 2: have rock fights anymore, you know, I mean we used
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 3: That was something about Crawford, seriously, Pat Crawford. He was
Speaker 3: a picture on the gas House Gang Cardinals, and he
Speaker 3: was from Kingston, and uh that season that I was
Speaker 3: part of. And we were sitting there in the box
Speaker 3: and he made a comment to my boss. He said, Ray,
Speaker 3: he says, you know why we're not having any good
Speaker 3: pictures these last few years? He said, no, Pat, why
Speaker 3: he says, because kids don't They weren't like us. They
Speaker 3: didn't sit there throw rocks at each other. You know,
Speaker 3: you learn how to be accurate, he says, And that's
Speaker 3: why not producing any good pictures. You know, he's right.
Speaker 2: And in Jersey when we found a good like you know,
Speaker 2: clay Field hole, then you then you.
Speaker 3: Got fa dirt pod fight?
Speaker 2: Was I mean that was dirt bombs.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We call them dirt bombs because when they hit somebody,
Speaker 2: they like exploded, right, it was a So those are great,
Speaker 2: except sometimes they had rocks in them, and.
Speaker 3: We graduated up to bb gun fights.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well see if you had some money.
Speaker 3: Where a motorcycle helmet with a shield.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see dirt, dirt and rocks, dirt and rocks and
Speaker 2: sticks we could beat each other with for free. And
Speaker 2: we could find glass bottles on the side of the
Speaker 2: road anytime.
Speaker 3: So when you were living in this area, did you
Speaker 3: ever come across a sweet gum spiny seed pod?
Speaker 2: No? I don't recall those.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, this thing is about the size. It's about
Speaker 3: one inch crossed, and it's hard, and it's got these
Speaker 3: spiny pieces coming out of it. It kind of looks
Speaker 3: like a COVID virus. The way these points, I mean
Speaker 3: these things, you step on one, it's like stepping on
Speaker 3: a lego in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2: Somewhere between a sea and enemy and a COVID all right, gotcha.
Speaker 3: To take those things in a wrist rocket, and I
Speaker 3: believe me you could take somebody out before they came
Speaker 3: up with gunpowder. This is what armies used with sling shots,
Speaker 3: because these things will kill you.
Speaker 2: Right right well. And then, of course, once a year,
Speaker 2: even though it was illegal in Jersey, bottle rocket fights.
Speaker 2: That was fun too.
Speaker 3: My brother when he was on the police department, they
Speaker 3: used to go up to the pistol Range. And when
Speaker 3: I went into the Army, I had to leave from
Speaker 3: Charleston Air Force Base. So my brother volunteered to drive
Speaker 3: me down there, and he picked up a buddy of
Speaker 3: his and we headed down there. And I asked him,
Speaker 3: I said, why did you volunteer to do that? He says,
Speaker 3: because we got to stop and get bottle rockets on
Speaker 3: the way back for our bottle rocket fights. Yep, South
Speaker 3: Carolina was the only place to buy himself, of you know,
Speaker 3: in just head south of.
Speaker 2: The border, right, and I mean we have whole fireworks
Speaker 2: stores here, you know. But in Jersey, I mean you
Speaker 2: had to have like your uncle that went to Mexico
Speaker 2: at some point and he would bring back, you know,
Speaker 2: a trunkloaded things and I go into business. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I go into business. For about a month right where
Speaker 2: it was like, yeah, you want to.
Speaker 3: They finally started allowing the tents like in the mall
Speaker 3: parking lot and things like that right before July fourth,
Speaker 3: and they have a list of approved fireworks. But everywhere
Speaker 3: I've lived near a lake or on the water, some
Speaker 3: doctor owns property and has to be the show off
Speaker 3: for the neighborhood. So when we were living by Lake Lookout,
Speaker 3: there were two neighbors down at the end of the lake,
Speaker 3: all across the cove from each other, and they would
Speaker 3: try to outdo each other. So we would take the boat,
Speaker 3: leave the house, go sit out in the main part
Speaker 3: of the lake, right out in the middle, and watch
Speaker 3: fireworks all night where these two idiots are shooting you,
Speaker 3: trying to outdo each other with their mortar tudes.
Speaker 2: By the way, you might hear some weeni dogs interrupting
Speaker 2: here and there, and it's it's in my hands control wise,
Speaker 2: because there is this neighborhood lady over here across the
Speaker 2: street and she's got this dog named Oreo that they
Speaker 2: never let in the house. It just runs around the
Speaker 2: neighborhood and it keeps running onto my lawn and the
Speaker 2: weenie dogs keep freaking out, so nothing I can do
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 3: You said, well, you said we might hear a weenie dog.
Speaker 3: Does a weenie dog's different from a regular dog.
Speaker 2: Yes, they do. They have a shriek in their bark,
Speaker 2: which I tell you cuts through my ear drums. I
Speaker 2: have had different dogs in my life. I had, you know,
Speaker 2: German shepherd nice, I mean a big German Shepherd too, boy, superbred.
Speaker 2: You know, his father was like a grand champion show
Speaker 2: dog and everything. And he was one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: pounds okay, muscular German shepherd Okay, the kind you don't
Speaker 2: want to see a cop let loose on you, all right,
Speaker 2: And I had one of those and a cop shot him.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I've had those. I've had a what, a
Speaker 2: Golden retriever. I've had all kinds of mutts. I'm telling
Speaker 2: you now. The dogs with the weenie, with the wienie
Speaker 2: dog in their breeding somewhere there's an extra shrill shriek
Speaker 2: involved in their bark. You were here, we did, don't
Speaker 2: you remember Lucy barking?
Speaker 3: Yeah? But they sound like I mean all smaller dogs
Speaker 3: that bark. All sound alike to me, from chihuah Wahs
Speaker 3: to poodles to you name it.
Speaker 2: They just all have that annoying well they have a yip.
Speaker 2: A lot of them have a yip in the little dogs,
Speaker 2: right they you know that yip.
Speaker 3: But they bark every damn thing. I mean, one dog
Speaker 3: could be sitting on one side of the room, or
Speaker 3: my neighbors this way, he's got three yeah, three yeah,
Speaker 3: three dogs, two cats, one dog sitting on one side
Speaker 3: of room, the other one sit there and just growl,
Speaker 3: and the other one kind of perks up like you're
Speaker 3: talking to me. Yeah, they will sit there, carried on
Speaker 3: a conversation with each other.
Speaker 2: Right, I got the same thing happening, except there's five
Speaker 2: of them, okay, And the thing is like two of
Speaker 2: them have that horrible shrill bark buster hardly ever barks.
Speaker 2: He's the one who sits up and goes, what are
Speaker 2: you guys talking about? He doesn't pay attention. He doesn't
Speaker 2: want to be out front. He's like, if anybody wants
Speaker 2: to run with me, I'll run, I guess, but otherwise
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna lay here. I mean, that's he's as lazy,
Speaker 2: and he's the biggest one, and he's the only male
Speaker 2: and ever since he was you know, castrated, it's even worse.
Speaker 2: But he just lays there. He don't care. The girls
Speaker 2: go nuts, and it's it's the old lady Lucy, who
Speaker 2: I think is about nine years old now, and uh,
Speaker 2: and and the big one Lina, which is uh. I
Speaker 2: think we had her when you were here. Kind of
Speaker 2: a kind of a dark, longer dog, but didn't look
Speaker 2: like a weenie dog, just kind of disproportionately long body,
Speaker 2: you know, because she's only part weenie dog. See now
Speaker 2: they're all mighty MutS. But I still call Sucie weenie
Speaker 2: dog because she's a Cheweeni, which is a combination Chihuahua
Speaker 2: and doxon. Right, So they have Chihuahua docs and two.
Speaker 3: Annoying, two annoying breeds in the one. Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's I believe it or not. It's the
Speaker 2: expensive dog when you got papers for it.
Speaker 3: He had a DOCS though, but ours was laid back.
Speaker 3: He didn't really. The only time he would bark is
Speaker 3: when there was a stranger and the minute you told
Speaker 3: him stop, he stopped.
Speaker 2: See that's weird that he was.
Speaker 3: That was the most laid back dog he was cool.
Speaker 2: See that's weird because my second wife had Doctionin's and
Speaker 2: they would bark at everything. And I used to try
Speaker 2: and sleep during the day, you know, because I worked
Speaker 2: at nights, and these dogs would just start going off
Speaker 2: for god knows what, for no reason at all, run
Speaker 2: around the house, bark, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Yet
Speaker 2: weenie dog barks. And they were pure bred weenie dogs.
Speaker 2: And uh, they drove me so nuts that my kids
Speaker 2: heard me scream at a bunch of times. I would
Speaker 2: just sit up, you know, from a dead sleep that
Speaker 2: they woke me from, and just screamed, we need dogs.
Speaker 2: And sometimes they would stop and that was it. And
Speaker 2: so when they would go berserk when I came home,
Speaker 2: and they would go berserk when somebody went by there
Speaker 2: was a noise outside. It was constant. Weeni dogs are
Speaker 2: not calm. They're not and chihuai Would you mix them
Speaker 2: with a Chihuahua. Chihuahuas are hyper and lunus me crazy.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I have yet to meet a Chihuahua that I liked.
Speaker 3: I can't help it. Just something about those dogs are
Speaker 3: so damn irritating to me. I don't know what it
Speaker 3: is they just bark and bark and bark, and it's like,
Speaker 3: would you please shut up?
Speaker 2: See, that was the weird thing we had Napoleon. And
Speaker 2: Napoleon he is mixed with a German mini pincher, right,
Speaker 2: so he had these extra like imagine a chihuahua, but
Speaker 2: the body's a little bigger than a regular chihuahua and
Speaker 2: long legs coming off of it. And this dog could
Speaker 2: jump about the height of where the people is on
Speaker 2: the door, right, and he would throw like Kim would
Speaker 2: go outside. He wanted to guard her all the time,
Speaker 2: so she'd go outside. He'd be jumping up to the
Speaker 2: people height and throwing himself up against the door to
Speaker 2: get there, okay, And I could never figure it out.
Speaker 2: He was very weird. But they're just too damned hyper.
Speaker 2: All of these dogs have Chihuahua and them all my
Speaker 2: my mighty mini MutS here.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I'm trying to understand why the
Speaker 3: Good Lord gave us the chihuaba because they have gotten
Speaker 3: to be the most obnoxious dogs in the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And you know the only thing that that's
Speaker 2: probably more sickly than them is those you know, those
Speaker 2: big tough looking dogs like from the old cartoons, the
Speaker 2: big sad bulldog. Look, that's that's the only thing that's
Speaker 2: got more health problems than them. Usually justaabas.
Speaker 3: I just I don't I don't know. I just never
Speaker 3: understood if someone was going to get a dog, why
Speaker 3: they would get a chihuaha. It's just they're just so
Speaker 3: freaking annoying.
Speaker 2: Well, see when we offered out all the puppies and
Speaker 2: the mighty mini mounts, right, and we gave away many
Speaker 2: a mighty mini munt and then some people turned around
Speaker 2: and sold them for money because it's kind of designer.
Speaker 2: If you live in a small space, right and you
Speaker 2: want a dog.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I realize that. But I always picture some
Speaker 3: old lady living alone at home, retired with her Chihuahwa
Speaker 3: that just barks incessantly, and she's lost her hearing, and
Speaker 3: so she doesn't bother her.
Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't bother her over there.
Speaker 3: The dog is just twenty four to seven right right right, And.
Speaker 2: When she does notice the barking, she's happy. It's like
Speaker 2: somebody's talking to her. So it works out. I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: it's an old lady dog, that's what it is. But
Speaker 2: they are crazy. It's like somebody went way too far
Speaker 2: with the in breeding and said mass grew it. That's good,
Speaker 2: I mean because they usually have giant heads, little leddybity bodies.
Speaker 3: If it gets shaken, bark, that's all they do is shaking, bark.
Speaker 2: And they're all shaking. Yeah, they all shake like like
Speaker 2: they're freezing all the time and they're not. It's like
Speaker 2: it's like as if you know, like when you're in
Speaker 2: the dead of winter and you just can't resist the.
Speaker 3: Call raw nerve. That's where it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like that's it. They get on your
Speaker 2: nerves and they are a bundle of raw nerves. Anyway,
Speaker 2: nobody's called in yet, so three one nine five two
Speaker 2: seven five zero one six. I know I've been a
Speaker 2: little lax. I'm getting back on track.
Speaker 3: But what you say is always here, but phase never
Speaker 3: calls in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to hear from ed Uh. You know,
Speaker 2: we're going to do this all the way up to
Speaker 2: ten o'clock when the Age of Transitions begins. And I
Speaker 2: have this idea in my head that they're going to
Speaker 2: do some more UFO talk this week because we ran
Speaker 2: out of time last.
Speaker 3: Week and I came across right here in front of
Speaker 3: me speaking of UFOs headline Air Force veterans saw an alien,
Speaker 3: non human egg shake aircraft while working for secret UFO
Speaker 3: retrieval program.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: Oh, and I saw a video today they said that
Speaker 3: they have found Amelia Airparts airplane.
Speaker 2: You know, every couple of years they find a Millia airplane. No,
Speaker 2: I mean I.
Speaker 3: Think they really, I think they identified it.
Speaker 2: Oh, they got it this time.
Speaker 3: I think I'll have to finish watching it. It was
Speaker 3: just before we went live that I was listening to it. So,
Speaker 3: but this is this is a US Air Force battery
Speaker 3: he played me witness an alien and non human egg
Speaker 3: shaped aircraft. The guy's name is Jake Barber. He was
Speaker 3: contracted by the military Branch to work as a helicopter
Speaker 3: pilot flying to the sites of down UFOs and during
Speaker 3: this assignment, some of the aircraft has spotted were top
Speaker 3: secret and explainable, while others were of alien origin. The
Speaker 3: outlet reported. He said, just visually looking at the object
Speaker 3: on the ground, you could tell that it was extraordinary
Speaker 3: and anomalous.
Speaker 2: See. Now, what's weird about that to me is I'm
Speaker 2: still seeing reports all across the country. By the way,
Speaker 2: of the drone phenomena. It's now not just in New
Speaker 2: Jersey died down.
Speaker 3: Have you noticed the fires took all the.
Speaker 2: No, but the coverage is gone, but the incidents are not.
Speaker 2: Even before the fires it up, there were UFOs everywhere
Speaker 2: and people are just like, huh, that's strange. Why why
Speaker 2: is anybody talking about this? Nobody knows what it is,
Speaker 2: and they're like groups of and they're not just like,
Speaker 2: you know, a bunch of hobby people went out and
Speaker 2: you know, went to I mean, you can't go to
Speaker 2: radio shack anymore. I guess they all got it from Amazon.
Speaker 2: But you know, the drones you can buy, you and
Speaker 2: me can easily get on the open market, these are
Speaker 2: not them. And the military says it's not them, and
Speaker 2: they also tell us it's not from a foreign country.
Speaker 2: So you've eliminated plenty of possibilities. But what he got
Speaker 2: left and nobody's talking about.
Speaker 3: I can't put any faith in them telling me it's
Speaker 3: not from a foreign country.
Speaker 2: But nobody's talking about it. And if it was from
Speaker 2: a foreign country, what are we doing? Just oh yeah,
Speaker 2: just fly your aircraft over us? Now? I mean, people
Speaker 2: freaked out about one freaking balloon making a trip across
Speaker 2: the country. But we got now what a thousand drones
Speaker 2: across thirty states. You know what, they might not be
Speaker 2: from China, you don't know. I guarantee you they're from China.
Speaker 2: We don't build them. You know.
Speaker 3: If they're commercial drums, they've either either came from China
Speaker 3: or they got China technology in them.
Speaker 2: So or they're from Iran, which again probably.
Speaker 3: Has Chinese tech from the Chinese right.
Speaker 2: Right, by the way, TikTok, what about that whole thing?
Speaker 2: Oh well, since you know people on TikTok like Trump,
Speaker 2: I guess we're gonna leave TikTok in place, even though
Speaker 2: we wanted to get rid of it because there was Chinese.
Speaker 3: Right question, does Elon Musk is he a US citizen?
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not sure about that either, because I'm
Speaker 2: a little pissed off that this guy is very South
Speaker 2: African in character and he's going to get a position
Speaker 2: of power here with no official responsibilities or restraint in
Speaker 2: the Government Efficiency Office right which, by the way, his
Speaker 2: two trillion dollars he was going to knock right away.
Speaker 2: He kind of says, now, maybe it might be one truly,
Speaker 2: but they'll pay no attention to that. And also Trump
Speaker 2: realizes that maybe he can't reduce his price of groceries.
Speaker 2: But you know, everything will be fine on Monday, don't worry. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yes, he became a citizen in two thousand and two
Speaker 3: after moving to the United States in the nineteen nineties.
Speaker 2: See, but he had the money to pay for the process.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what is this is about six grand
Speaker 2: I think it was the estimate on being able to
Speaker 2: buy your way through that process pretty quick.
Speaker 3: Well, not only that, I mean he relocated his businesses
Speaker 3: here too. Didn't he move on space X to Texas?
Speaker 2: Well, he did, and he didn't you know, he moved
Speaker 2: from California to Texas to make the point of I
Speaker 2: need to get away from the liberals. Okay, So he
Speaker 2: did that to go to Texas where he thought he'd
Speaker 2: be more free. But he's got you know, X offices
Speaker 2: all across the world. He's got different things that are
Speaker 2: branded X that people don't pay any attention to, that
Speaker 2: are in other countries and this country, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, your girl Tulsey's going to have
Speaker 2: to keep an eye on this, Okay. And also the
Speaker 2: governor of what is it, South Dakota, one of the
Speaker 2: Dakota territories, is also going to have to keep an
Speaker 2: eye on this because I'm thinking you might have a
Speaker 2: security issue, you know, if it's the South African guy
Speaker 2: who's gonna make our government more efficient, I'm holding up
Speaker 2: air quotes. You know.
Speaker 3: Well, I've heard several people talking about TikTok, you know,
Speaker 3: and selling it. What's got to be sold to US
Speaker 3: entity at all. There's a lot of there's a lot
Speaker 3: of foreign corporations out there to be able to do
Speaker 3: business in the US. They set up a US board
Speaker 3: of directors and everything else. Yes, but somebody made the comment,
Speaker 3: and I think we may have discussed it last week.
Speaker 3: Someone made the comment about, you know, well it should
Speaker 3: be American and I thought Roger Ales owns everything. I
Speaker 3: mean he started Fox. Well, no, he wasn't from the US.
Speaker 3: You mean you mean Rupert Murdoch, You mean Murdock's I'm
Speaker 3: sorry Murdoch, Yes, not roder Ails.
Speaker 2: Roder Ails was running Fox News at one. But you
Speaker 2: mean Rupert Murdoch.
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, yeah, Murdoch. And he's bought US newspapers, He's
Speaker 3: got all these TV stations, radio station.
Speaker 2: Oh he cobbled together a whole TV network and called
Speaker 2: it Fox.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I'm sitting thinking, you know, as far as
Speaker 3: I know, the guy's British.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, he's like Australian or something, or he's
Speaker 2: from Australia, New Zealand. Right, but where is he? Let's
Speaker 2: look at it. Where's he from?
Speaker 3: It just kills me the tip I don't you know.
Speaker 3: They say, well, it's such a security threat. The Chinese
Speaker 3: can go buy your data if they wanted to. That's
Speaker 3: what the government does to get around warrants and ship
Speaker 3: They just go buy your data. Somebody's got your data
Speaker 3: out there and they're selling it.
Speaker 2: It's not just the Chinese, No, there are companies all
Speaker 2: across the globe, no matter what language you speak that
Speaker 2: will sell you that data. You're in Israel, you can
Speaker 2: easily buy it. They're they're information dealers, really, that's what
Speaker 2: they're great.
Speaker 3: That's what kills me, though. I don't understand the national
Speaker 3: security guys are you know, talking about in their little
Speaker 3: groups and stuff like this. I'm thinking, you've got how talk,
Speaker 3: you've got messing, or you've got this, you've gotten that,
Speaker 3: you've got every phone service.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me, Bill Gates.
Speaker 3: Is not every platform out there? Why suddenly is TikTok
Speaker 3: this big bad no?
Speaker 2: And screw the platforms even bepete because look, you just
Speaker 2: go in your app store. Half of that crap is
Speaker 2: from China or Japan or somewhere. And what it's not
Speaker 2: a security threat because it's not as popular.
Speaker 3: You know, I understand it. You know, even if the
Speaker 3: data is going straight from your phone to China, your
Speaker 3: crap's been going straight from your phone to China for
Speaker 3: the past fifteen to twenty years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I believe me. Once people commonly started
Speaker 2: carrying cell phones, you're any any idea of personal you know,
Speaker 2: space and privacy was gone. It's over once they could
Speaker 2: activate the microphones without your knowledge. And by the way,
Speaker 2: about if you do a Google search. Here's a trick too.
Speaker 2: If you want to do this and I know it's available,
Speaker 2: you do a Google search on your voice. Okay, you
Speaker 2: the listener right now. You've put your proper name in
Speaker 2: a couple of little you know, biographical facts in the search,
Speaker 2: and then you look for voice recordings. Okay. Guess what,
Speaker 2: even if you don't have a podcast, you will find
Speaker 2: random weird voice recordings of yourself stored. Where did they
Speaker 2: get them? You were idea of time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, every time you call a customer service number and
Speaker 3: you hear this this called maybe recorded for coalist purposes?
Speaker 3: Yeahs there, thanking God. I hope this one is because
Speaker 3: I'm pissed.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Look, but that's not what you'll find. You will find
Speaker 2: random snippets, I swear to you, of conversations that you
Speaker 2: can't even place, that were picked up off of some
Speaker 2: microphone somewhere and you were ided. So think about this.
Speaker 2: You are id'd, databased and recorded without your knowledge, and
Speaker 2: that's what's publicly accessible, all right, and you know, so
Speaker 2: give me a break. This is this whole idea of
Speaker 2: all I want to make sure buy systems are you're
Speaker 2: on the system, you're recorded, You're you're on the internet,
Speaker 2: You're being tracked. It's not even a question, you know.
Speaker 2: It's like, Hey, is Alex Jones going to have some
Speaker 2: ridiculous clickbaiting, you know, sort of title to his broadcast today?
Speaker 2: I don't know, did the sunrise? Because that's about the
Speaker 2: likelihood of that, right, I mean, seriously, I just went
Speaker 2: over to X right now, just as I'm speaking, okay,
Speaker 2: and Tucker Carlson is nervous about AI. Elon Musk is
Speaker 2: trying to correct him. But if I go over to
Speaker 2: Live on X, of course Alex Jones is on Alex
Speaker 2: Jones Show dot com or whatever now and input wars
Speaker 2: he got back. So the Alex Jones Network and Alex
Speaker 2: Jones are the top two things on my Live on X.
Speaker 2: What are they titled? Nuclear Terrorism Alert? Federal? Is the
Speaker 2: title of the first broadcast RA Alex Jones second one?
Speaker 2: Can you guess the second one?
Speaker 5: BP?
Speaker 3: Not with Alex Jones.
Speaker 2: Okay, Friday Emergency Broadcast Federal dot dot dot ah okay.
Speaker 2: And then if you go down just from there, Roger
Speaker 2: Stone is number three, as Obama star feeds.
Speaker 3: I've never understood the fascination with Roger Stone.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, but because he is in that Look, why
Speaker 2: did Trump bother to get his you know, pardon for
Speaker 2: um right when he when he when he's charged with
Speaker 2: witness tampering and convicted? Why? Because this guy don't really care.
Speaker 3: I just don't understand the fascination with Roger Stone.
Speaker 2: Because he's got Look, I'm not even fast. I would
Speaker 2: have figured people would have read his BS books given
Speaker 2: up already, but no, they don't read it. And he's
Speaker 2: still a player. He's still got favors, oh to him,
Speaker 2: he's still got a privilege. I'm telling you live Al
Speaker 2: Jazeera English is under that and under that Science Unleashed
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, So they're probably recapping, you know, scientific
Speaker 2: discoveries for twenty twenty four. But those are my top five.
Speaker 2: Listen to this crap on X request you know suggestions
Speaker 2: for me? What do you make of that? BP, Well,
Speaker 2: I mean on X.
Speaker 3: X is probably it doesn't surprise me that those are
Speaker 3: the top five.
Speaker 2: And Alex unless Elon Musk did an interview recently on X.
Speaker 2: Alex Jones is one and two every day every day
Speaker 2: on X for me.
Speaker 3: Just so he's got a huge following. And that's like
Speaker 3: with TikTok, there's a lot of people with small business. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I read something a lot of money using TikTok as
Speaker 3: a major promotion platform.
Speaker 2: You know what I read and repeated articles and I
Speaker 2: don't know what the source is for it. But they claim,
Speaker 2: you know, we can't let them track as you're already
Speaker 2: on there. They claim one hundred and seven million US
Speaker 2: users isn't that special? So numbers? What is that? More
Speaker 2: than a third of the population is already databased and
Speaker 2: locked in, So what are you gonna do? That's a
Speaker 2: good enough sample size to figure things out. I'm just
Speaker 2: telling you.
Speaker 3: Now, people all a lot of people are so slow
Speaker 3: to realize if you've had a cell phone, your data
Speaker 3: has been out there since day one.
Speaker 2: Well, see, isn't that funny? Isn't that what I said,
Speaker 2: like about ten minutes ago? Right?
Speaker 3: Well, no, I mean it's it's It just kills me
Speaker 3: the way that people don't realize it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I know it kills me too.
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Speaker 2: disruption in the research community is surprised. I love it.
Speaker 2: I love the fact that Larry Hancock gives a severe
Speaker 2: crack across the knuckles to some people in this book,
Speaker 2: politely but still. But oh, that favorite question that. I
Speaker 2: asked David Boylan, I asked you about we forgot, and
Speaker 2: I don't think you answered it. He didn't know what
Speaker 2: to ask me about that. Did you come up with anything?
Speaker 2: What my favorite question was during that discussion and idea? Anything?
Speaker 2: What is the question? Okay? I said, And I set
Speaker 2: this up on purpose, I said, So, David, tell me,
Speaker 2: since you like to dig deeply into people's you know,
Speaker 2: interpersonal connections and what they might mean, tell me all
Speaker 2: about Oswald and his supposed connection to organized crime, because
Speaker 2: certain people that are the most disreputable of people in
Speaker 2: the community have always made this interesting thing. Because Oswald
Speaker 2: had an uncle that was sort of a knock around guy,
Speaker 2: was never going to be made because he wasn't Italian, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, I need to make a correction because
Speaker 2: somebody wrote me an email about that. It is true
Speaker 2: that standards changed sometime around the time I graduated high school,
Speaker 2: which is where I sort of got an invitation to
Speaker 2: the organized crime dance. Because if you could simply prove
Speaker 2: your father's lineage, now in America, you can get made,
Speaker 2: so that is a possibility. But his uncle, DUTs or
Speaker 2: whatever the hell was a knock around guy. Okay, he
Speaker 2: was not. You know, they were close there. First of all,
Speaker 2: you have no evidence, but that secondly, simply because you
Speaker 2: know somebody, it.
Speaker 3: Was like a utility infielder.
Speaker 2: Yeah right. And here's the thing, BP, you like to
Speaker 2: let let's just let's use a real example here. Since
Speaker 2: you like to gamble in certain venues and I know you,
Speaker 2: that doesn't make me a gambler. And organized crime is
Speaker 2: not like a virus. It doesn't just spread all around. Oh,
Speaker 2: you were exposed to it. You had an uncle, you
Speaker 2: had to There are people whose parents I mean, think
Speaker 2: about this for a second. Richard Koklinsky, the iceman, his
Speaker 2: family just thought he was a dick. They didn't know
Speaker 2: he was a hitman. You understand this is not the
Speaker 2: way it works. It doesn't necessarily encompass everyone in your life.
Speaker 2: Because ready, Lakosa Nostra is a secret society, morons, it's
Speaker 2: not supposed. I mean, look, ever since the Velacchi papers
Speaker 2: and everything, the rest of you white people found out
Speaker 2: about a lot of stuff. But also you didn't know
Speaker 2: about the legends of what really went on with Lucky
Speaker 2: Luciano and all that kind of stuff. It was a
Speaker 2: family story to me and now people have proved it
Speaker 2: out that you know, not only did uh Luciano, but
Speaker 2: other mobsters assisted the US government during World War Two.
Speaker 2: I knew that my whole life. But not everybody knows
Speaker 2: that because guess what again, secret organizations. That's the thing,
Speaker 2: you know, Like you assume you don't know everything about
Speaker 2: the CIA, you don't know a damn thing about this
Speaker 2: thing of ours. You know, mafia. The word People don't
Speaker 2: even know what that word means. It's hilarious. It's close
Speaker 2: to the word for pride in Sicilian, not Italian, by
Speaker 2: the way, Sicilian, but it's not exactly right. And they
Speaker 2: know nothing, and they just go, ah, you know what
Speaker 2: his uncle was in and he was in it, therefore
Speaker 2: he had mob connections. No, you could have everybody in
Speaker 2: your life connected to the mob, but you're not invited in.
Speaker 2: You know. It's like you might know a freemason, but
Speaker 2: you're not going to the lodge, okay, unless you're invited
Speaker 2: to join. See See how that works. Funny thing, isn't it? Anyway?
Speaker 2: I leave it at that, but I asked, David Boylin,
Speaker 2: tell me all about Oswald's mob connections that you covered
Speaker 2: in the book. I set him up and he said,
Speaker 2: well I couldn't. Well why not, David, tell me why
Speaker 2: you couldn't, because there aren't thank you. Oswald is not
Speaker 2: connected to the MOBB. He's connected to eighty three Cubans,
Speaker 2: fifty three CI agents. Okay, you know, twenty losers, some
Speaker 2: oddly gay people all around him. Yes, indeed Russians.
Speaker 3: But wait a minute, now, didn't too was Marcelo buying
Speaker 3: him in Judith's hotel rooms? And then no, I thought
Speaker 3: that was clay Shaw for somebody. That's just a you know,
Speaker 3: no casual acquaintance.
Speaker 2: Clay Shaw supposedly. And here's the problem with Marcelo doing that,
Speaker 2: and the thing that again, people don't understand Marcello didn't
Speaker 2: have control of the outfit. And everybody thinks he had
Speaker 2: control of the outfit at that time. He did not,
Speaker 2: and you know why, because he ran his mouth too much.
Speaker 2: This is why he got shot in the mouth when
Speaker 2: they killed him, because he ran his mouth too much.
Speaker 2: Nobody gave him total control of the outfit. He had
Speaker 2: control partially of the Chicago outfit, which is a conglomeration
Speaker 2: of mobsters in Illinois, which count as one seat on
Speaker 2: the commission. Okay, and Marcello was not big enough. Then
Speaker 2: Tony Jaccardo ran more of the Chicago outfit at the
Speaker 2: time quietly, which is why you don't hear people parroting
Speaker 2: his name constantly, because that's what you were supposed to do.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, if you think I'm kidding, tell me
Speaker 2: he was running the Gambino crime family right now. Since
Speaker 2: it's not John Gotti on the front page of the
Speaker 2: New York Post, you don't know. Google it if you want,
Speaker 2: but you don't know off the top of your head,
Speaker 2: because again, ready secret societ got it. Three thousand Italians
Speaker 2: run organized crime in this country about approximately, and that's
Speaker 2: the way it's always been, even in its heyday, might
Speaker 2: have been up to five grand on Italians they had
Speaker 2: to recruit.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Good evening. I hope you're all doing well. I
Speaker 4: just took a break from Cinderella. I got my granddaughter over,
Speaker 4: so I just wanted to call in and clarify. One
Speaker 4: thing from last week is I was trying to put
Speaker 4: my head together. We're talking about who meant Danny Kriss?
Speaker 4: I can't speak from the Martinsburg Den Cosero. It was
Speaker 4: not Ted Gunderson. I got that confused. He was connected
Speaker 4: with Robert Booth, Nichols and Markle, Michael Connas Shudo and
Speaker 4: actually Jimmy James was right. It was it was William Turner.
Speaker 4: I don't know a lot about him and don't know
Speaker 4: a lot about the connection or the information that he
Speaker 4: gave Michael, but it was. It was the day before
Speaker 4: he died. So yes, I wanted to stand correct there.
Speaker 4: But you were talking about settled and that you wanted
Speaker 4: to throw off on the paradigm of politics. Is that
Speaker 4: what I what I caught during the break?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Because okay, I was thinking about you know, you know
Speaker 2: the phrase in legal terms, what is it add ridiculo
Speaker 2: adsertum right, which is like reduce it down to its
Speaker 2: most extreme. You know, it's most extreme. This is the
Speaker 2: ultimate end goal evolution in my mind, for both sides
Speaker 2: of the alleged political paradigm in America. And you gotta
Speaker 2: bear with me. Should I offend you first? Should I
Speaker 2: offend you first, Danny? Or should I offend the Republicans?
Speaker 4: I got sick skin.
Speaker 2: Okay, you're gonna love this. Who is a and we're
Speaker 2: gonna go nineteen seventies here when my political awareness first
Speaker 2: awoke because I was reading newspapers and there was a
Speaker 2: lot of political crap in there because we were still
Speaker 2: in the aftermath of Watergate. You know, we had Gerald
Speaker 2: Ford as a president. When I learned to read, right,
Speaker 2: Vietnam War just ended. Political turmoil was in the news.
Speaker 2: You had a one hour news broadcast at night. You
Speaker 2: had your local newspaper. In my case, it was the
Speaker 2: Asbury Park Press in New Jersey, Okay, and I read
Speaker 2: national stories from that paper. So what is it that
Speaker 2: best characterized not Jimmy Carter or the guy at the time,
Speaker 2: but throughout my life what it is I became aware
Speaker 2: of both characters that represent both sides of the paradigm
Speaker 2: existed in the nineteen seventies, and they're clearly even though
Speaker 2: not known primarily for their political belief systems, they're known
Speaker 2: for something else. They are easily identifiable as faithful, active
Speaker 2: part two diicipants in each of the two political parties,
Speaker 2: the two big political parties. Okay, so we'll begin with
Speaker 2: the Democrats. There was this guy in Illinois. I've had
Speaker 2: Illinois on the brain this past week. There was this
Speaker 2: guy in Illinois who would go around to young men
Speaker 2: and offer them jobs. He also happened to be a
Speaker 2: precinct captain for the Democratic Party in his suburban area
Speaker 2: just outside of Chicago, part of Illinois. Right. He had
Speaker 2: a little bit of a prison record from his youth.
Speaker 2: He was apparently a charming guy who liked to cook
Speaker 2: for people, and he performed as a clown for people.
Speaker 2: And I know I just gave it away to some.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing. His most brutal and vicious acts
Speaker 2: are what made him known. And he's comparable to the
Speaker 2: guy on the other side. It perfectly balances in my mind,
Speaker 2: and he is the most extreme representative of what I
Speaker 2: think of Democrats. The guy's name, do you know.
Speaker 3: What it is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's John wa Gacy, it sure is.
Speaker 2: And this guy was photographed with Roslin Carter. You know,
Speaker 2: well while he was slaughtering you know boys that he
Speaker 2: was offering construction jobs to and sticking them in the
Speaker 2: foundation of his own home. He is the perfect metaphor,
Speaker 2: in my mind, for the sickest and most relenting, demented
Speaker 2: part of the Democratic notion in this country. That's a liberal.
Speaker 2: He's a self hating gay guy. He's angry about that.
Speaker 2: He's got a serious problem with his father. There's all
Speaker 2: kinds of psychology built in there. The guy is the
Speaker 2: predatory extreme of what a Democrat represents to me in
Speaker 2: my mind. Now you think I'm bad for them.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 4: Very extreme shock to keep going.
Speaker 2: Well, But here's the thing. It balances out perfectly with
Speaker 2: the next guy. Also a sexual sadist by the way,
Speaker 2: a torturer, a guy who was deceptive, you know it
Speaker 2: was apparently a community leader and all like that. And again,
Speaker 2: like I said, offering you know, poor young guys, mostly
Speaker 2: gay guys somehow, uh, you know, opportunities to to lift
Speaker 2: themselves up in a false sort of way. So to
Speaker 2: you know, get rid of him when he was done
Speaker 2: with him and stick him under his house.
Speaker 4: Okay, right, yeah, I remember that. I remember that story.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 4: I have to feel him. You're where you're going on
Speaker 4: the next on the next one. But I'll let you
Speaker 4: go if I think I've got an idea where you're going.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, But let me set it up a little
Speaker 2: and then you can guess it.
Speaker 4: Can I get a hit before I looked the cat
Speaker 4: out of the bag?
Speaker 2: Sure? God?
Speaker 4: Is that? Is it connected to the state of Washington?
Speaker 2: Oh? You know what I'm going with here? Yes, you do?
Speaker 4: So the.
Speaker 2: The Republicans. To me, this is again the most extreme
Speaker 2: representation of the worst characteristics possible. Now, on the other side,
Speaker 2: you had a guy who was a little confused. He's
Speaker 2: a little progressive, he's a little you know, different for
Speaker 2: the times, not standard at all. But this other guy
Speaker 2: he helps get a governor elected. He is an active
Speaker 2: participant in the GOP. He believes in conservative values in
Speaker 2: absolute forms. He is one of those guys. He's clean cut,
Speaker 2: and you know, I don't know people remember this, but
Speaker 2: it sort of was like, if you were educated and
Speaker 2: you were somebody who was, you know, kind of upper class,
Speaker 2: you were supposed to be a Republican in the seventies,
Speaker 2: so it made sense. Good looking guy, he studies law,
Speaker 2: he studies medicine, he's all these different things. His background's
Speaker 2: a little rough, but pay no attention to that. And
Speaker 2: you know, he happens to be much like his buddy
Speaker 2: in Illinois, except he's more expansive. He goes across the
Speaker 2: country to do his business. And he's a little more
Speaker 2: standard too, because you know, outside of the fact that
Speaker 2: everybody forgets that he killed the two twelve year olds,
Speaker 2: he generally just killed women, okay, and perfect representation women.
Speaker 2: You know, the whole sort of paradigm that was out
Speaker 2: there about like women falling in love with like sick,
Speaker 2: demented individuals who are like locked up and you know,
Speaker 2: fell and cells all across the country, which happens every day,
Speaker 2: prisoners who you know, get marriage proposals and all that
Speaker 2: started in my mind with this guy who kept escaping
Speaker 2: from custody and everything else. And if you haven't guessed it,
Speaker 2: it's Ted Bundy. And I'm telling you both of them,
Speaker 2: separate from their sexual sadist, murderous rages, are actually also
Speaker 2: a little more you know, a little more character arc
Speaker 2: for them are really truly parts of these parties, and
Speaker 2: to me, they're perfect. They're perfect. Every argument between a
Speaker 2: Republican and a Democrat in the true believer sense boils
Speaker 2: down to a watered down version of Ted Bundy versus
Speaker 2: John Wayne Casey. And that's how I see that, And.
Speaker 4: That's well, I do think it's usually I have to
Speaker 4: keep myself in check when it comes to Paul. I
Speaker 4: have when one one of my biggest rules has never
Speaker 4: fallen over with a politician, because I mean, I'll often
Speaker 4: meet both sides. They're just full of the ego maniacs.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm like, on my route currently, I'm going
Speaker 4: to San Francisco four nights a week and they drive twice.
Speaker 4: That's the speaker, Nancy Pelosi Federal Buildings, right, and when
Speaker 4: San Francisco over off of Market in seventh Street.
Speaker 2: You know what else is hilarious, Well, Danny, hang on,
Speaker 2: you know what else is hilarious about this is that
Speaker 2: at the time and they got similar body counts depending
Speaker 2: because there's unsolved portions of their murder spreeze, right, so
Speaker 2: both of them could easily be counted with anywhere from
Speaker 2: thirty to one hundred bodies, okay, in their particular in
Speaker 2: their particular hunting rounds. And here's the funny part again,
Speaker 2: it makes them perfectly comparable. Is that the disbelief from
Speaker 2: people that knew them and the public that these guys
Speaker 2: would do this because they were couldn't, you know, Like
Speaker 2: the Gasey's a community guy, he's helping people out, he's
Speaker 2: a precinct captain. He's entertaining people at children's parties with
Speaker 2: the creepiest clown makeup possible, which should have been a hint,
Speaker 2: but really weird, really, and you know, what's funny too,
Speaker 2: is he got busted selling paintings of clowns to people,
Speaker 2: and he wasn't supposed to, you know, benefit from his
Speaker 2: celebrity status as a mass murderer. And you know and
Speaker 2: all that because they put the Burkerwitz thing in there.
Speaker 2: You know that law, you're not supposed to benefit from
Speaker 2: your crime. But I mean, those paintings are still sold today,
Speaker 2: by the way, for lots of money, and people pay
Speaker 2: money for Ted Bundy stuff. I mean, you know, and
Speaker 2: you would think I'd go, well, why didn't you go
Speaker 2: with Jeffrey Dahmer. Jeffrey Dahmer doesn't show political ideology like
Speaker 2: these guys do. Both of them are supposed to be helpful, friendly,
Speaker 2: charming in some sort of strange way. One of them
Speaker 2: is more of a blue collar guy, the other one
Speaker 2: is more of a collegiate educated man. And it's just hilarious, yea,
Speaker 2: And both of them at their course, and when you
Speaker 2: let them off the leash monsters. And that's what I
Speaker 2: see is when you let any of these things go
Speaker 2: to the extreme, that's what you got. Every single argument
Speaker 2: boils down to some version of John Wayne Gacy for
Speaker 2: the Democrats, Ted Bundy for the Republicans, and that's the
Speaker 2: way I see it. I can't help it. But anyway,
Speaker 2: please continue with what you were saying.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just now that you think that, yeah, you've
Speaker 4: made a case. I mean that it's like if they
Speaker 4: have such an ego and you have to so compromise yourself,
Speaker 4: I can see where you're drawing that collusion that's on
Speaker 4: both sides. And these these jokers are you know, they're
Speaker 4: they're sociopathic. You know they have I don't know how
Speaker 4: they sleep at night.
Speaker 2: Well, narcissistic both sides. Narcissistic both sides. Blame somebody else
Speaker 2: for what they do and what happens. They never take responsibility.
Speaker 2: They got inventive stories. I mean, right before Ted Bundy died,
Speaker 2: he's like, you know what made me do this pornography? Okay,
Speaker 2: I mean literally he got that guy from uh what
Speaker 2: was it, I forget which church, but he was like,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: On the focus on the family. Ted Bundy went on
Speaker 4: there before he was executed, that guy.
Speaker 2: Right, James James Dobson, Right, Okay, yeah, right, he's doing that.
Speaker 2: Gacy is out there going. Look, I don't give a
Speaker 2: damn anymore. But you know what, You're never gonna find
Speaker 2: all the bodies if you don't. If you don't, if
Speaker 2: you kill me, and you know, supposedly said something like
Speaker 2: kiss my ass when they kill him. Bundy, on the
Speaker 2: other hand, though, did not handle it as well. He
Speaker 2: was kind of surprised when they were you know, plugging
Speaker 2: up his uh, you know, plugging him up so he
Speaker 2: didn't leak on the chair when they put him an
Speaker 2: old sparky. But it was two different instances this year
Speaker 2: and they both got executed, right, fun story anyway. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, if you think about it, though, you water
Speaker 2: him down a little bit, you could start to recognize
Speaker 2: the prominent positions to each party. Yeah, they're not serial killers,
Speaker 2: but maybe they are if they took actions that got
Speaker 2: a lot of people killed, you know, whether they were
Speaker 2: sending people to war unnecessarily, they were invading countries unnecessarily,
Speaker 2: they were benefiting off of some crap that they were
Speaker 2: letting get into the system one way or another, the
Speaker 2: food supply or your water. Like, I don't know why
Speaker 2: nobody went to prison, you know, in Detroit or Flint,
Speaker 2: excuse me, Flint, Michigan. Why is nobody going to prison?
Speaker 2: For that water situation. Uh okay, anyway, just saying, and
Speaker 2: I don't care demic Republican one way or another. You
Speaker 2: only got to water them down just so far to
Speaker 2: get from Ted Bundy or John Wayne Gacy to get
Speaker 2: to the guy or woman you see. I mean, that's
Speaker 2: that's just me. Anyway, I thought you would find that
Speaker 2: entertaining day.
Speaker 4: I yeah, I did.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I'm going to let you go because
Speaker 4: I got to go back to Cinderella with my two
Speaker 4: year old granddaughter, so I just wanted to chine in.
Speaker 4: But I'm glad you shared that with me. Now, I'm
Speaker 4: going to give that a lot of thought. But I
Speaker 4: think you're you're onto something because the narcissism. But you know,
Speaker 4: I even find the season, like you know, talk with
Speaker 4: friends on both sides of the idols my biggest, my
Speaker 4: biggest complaint because sometimes I'll piss off my little friends.
Speaker 3: I go.
Speaker 4: You you start sound like you have to take responsibility
Speaker 4: of your own parties in action or actions and the
Speaker 4: same if you want those if you want the other
Speaker 4: side to do it, And it's amazing when I have it.
Speaker 4: When you bring up a point, it's what about it
Speaker 4: or change the subject, well, what about this killer. It's
Speaker 4: never saying my guy, yeah, got a stin Yeah, I
Speaker 4: rarely get that well, or just change the subjects like dodge,
Speaker 4: or just admit on.
Speaker 2: Some level, at some point, your party's ideology is going
Speaker 2: to attract serial killers.
Speaker 4: Too, you know, just saying yeah, it might be that
Speaker 4: might be my new bumper sticker.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: I might be my new bumper.
Speaker 2: I think that could be a recurring bumper sticker for
Speaker 2: every election cycle for president and you just say.
Speaker 4: Killer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the ghost of Bundy, the ghost of
Speaker 2: Bundy or Gacy for president twenty twenty four, twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 2: twenty thirty two, you know, for as long as we
Speaker 2: have elections in this country anyway.
Speaker 4: Right when you remind me of something that was in
Speaker 4: Santa Clair, California, just jogged my memory because I laughed
Speaker 4: like him it was a burden and said I was
Speaker 4: doing a delivery. Was in nineteen eight. It was nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty eight. Yeah, it was the eighty eight election because
Speaker 4: Raygan was out of Auston office, and I saw a
Speaker 4: bumper sticker, so it said he's tan, he's rested, he's ready.
Speaker 4: Nixon in eighty eight. It was a great bumper. It
Speaker 4: just caught me. I just like I had a laugh. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because he's oler getting rest tan and rested in tank
Speaker 4: Clement to California. I thought it was pretty funny.
Speaker 2: Listen, that is hilarious. But I'll tell you again, I
Speaker 2: think people are unfair to Richard Nixon. I really do,
Speaker 2: because you know, he's doing a little bit of stuff
Speaker 2: he shouldn't have been doing, but really no worse than
Speaker 2: anybody else at the time.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have to agree. I mean I think by
Speaker 4: you know, I think he was incredibly you know he
Speaker 4: had I think he was incredibly terranoid. And I think
Speaker 4: the biggest thing was is, you know, just to cover
Speaker 4: you know, he covered up because for whatever reason, I
Speaker 4: mean the way. But also he made a lot of
Speaker 4: some politics. I remember reading Earl Warren's biography. Earl Warren, Yeah,
Speaker 4: they're from the same state. They couldn't stand each other.
Speaker 4: I mean Earl Warren could not stand Nixon. I mean
Speaker 4: he despised them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, but then again, LBJ might have LBJ might have
Speaker 2: broken Earl Warren anyway, because I mean, quite honestly, he's
Speaker 2: sitting there going look, you got to do this otherwise
Speaker 2: we're gonna get nuked here with the warring. I mean
Speaker 2: it's a bit much, but anyway, listen, dandy, go enjoy Cinderella.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you calling in and joining us, and really
Speaker 2: give that some thought though and join us. Sorry, what.
Speaker 4: Offer me? I mean, I got pretty thick skin. I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't get too upset about stuff. You know.
Speaker 2: Well, no, and that's a good test too. And that's
Speaker 2: a good test too. I'm attacking the politician. Why are
Speaker 2: you angry? You know what I'm saying, Like if I'm
Speaker 2: sitting there criticizing or even if I'm wrong, so what
Speaker 2: I'm wrong? If I tell you about some guy named
Speaker 2: you know whatever, to pick a name out of the air,
Speaker 2: and hey, this guy is a complete jerk, he's useless
Speaker 2: this and that you're gonna get upset because why you
Speaker 2: don't care? You're not invested in him. And this is
Speaker 2: the thing, the emotional investment overriding your common sense. This
Speaker 2: has gotta stop because I'm telling you this is gonna
Speaker 2: be a weird ride the next four years, and it's
Speaker 2: gonna get really uncomfortable for some people. And they're not
Speaker 2: gonna know why they're gonna blame it on the wrong
Speaker 2: thing again, because they're emotionally invested. And it's sort of like,
Speaker 2: you know, like I've always said about people who were
Speaker 2: dead wrong about JFK stuff. It's like going to the bar,
Speaker 2: waking up next to the girl you thought was cute
Speaker 2: last night and realizing how drunk you actually were right,
Speaker 2: and you go, oh man, But they won't admit it.
Speaker 2: They'll go, Nope, she was a ten, even even with
Speaker 2: that unibrow. She was a ten. Yes, Indeed she was
Speaker 2: a ten with all those hairs coming out of her
Speaker 2: toe knuckles. She was a ten. Yep, she was a
Speaker 2: dead Okay, gotcha? Uh you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm glad I never suffered too that I got
Speaker 4: married too young and was too busy working. But I've
Speaker 4: had some friends tell me some stories once they kind
Speaker 4: of sod it up.
Speaker 2: It was why I heard the same Yeah, I heard
Speaker 2: the same story many times, and it was just like, Wow,
Speaker 2: how is it that you know, you and thirty other
Speaker 2: guys I know did the same damn thing. Uh? You know,
Speaker 2: I knew when I went home with an ugly girl.
Speaker 2: I accepted it, and I was blind. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 4: Excuse yeah, right now, that was the thing.
Speaker 2: I was like, look, you know, you know, you know
Speaker 2: how blind I am. Do you know how big those
Speaker 2: that girl's buck teeth were? Yeah, but you know how
Speaker 2: blind I am. They didn't look that big to me. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, just saying I did not notice the un.
Speaker 4: Why it is?
Speaker 3: I want to know why it is? You assume that
Speaker 3: all women have harry toe knuckles.
Speaker 2: Oh I don't assume all women have heard to not
Speaker 2: at all, but some do. It looks like hobbit feet
Speaker 2: down there. It's rough, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I have never ever in my life come across a
Speaker 3: woman with hobbits.
Speaker 2: But you got to remember a lot.
Speaker 3: You dig up with.
Speaker 2: You got to remember in Jersey a lot of chemicals
Speaker 2: got poured into the u you know, water table, and uh,
Speaker 2: it's it's rough, man. You know what. What's what's the
Speaker 2: difference between the garbage on the street in New York
Speaker 2: and the girls on the street in New Jersey. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you find something valuable in the garbage in New York. Anyways, Okay,
Speaker 2: And I love Jersey. You know that.
Speaker 4: I did actually been the Jersey once. Yeah, and I
Speaker 4: didn't see the whole state. I actually really like it was.
Speaker 4: It was actually pretty florest, actually county. I'm gonna let
Speaker 4: you go, but I thank you.
Speaker 2: For having absolutely, Daddy, And next time you call it,
Speaker 2: tell me what part of Jersey you visited, because I
Speaker 2: might want to reminisce about it. I'm miss Jersey.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you about it.
Speaker 2: Take care, actually, man and Joyce Cinderella. So Danny called in.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I'm surprised Jimmy James isn't around, but
Speaker 2: he might be sleeping. I mean, he's got to get
Speaker 2: charged up for Monday. Be pete. But what are your
Speaker 2: thoughts on my John Wayne Gacy versus Ted Bundy? And
Speaker 2: this is the way I see these two parties.
Speaker 3: Well, now that explains why you and I can never
Speaker 3: have a political discussion and get beyond a certain point,
Speaker 3: because you classify everybody to my which side to arguing from,
Speaker 3: as either being John Wayne Gacy or Ted Bundy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I literally thought, and you know what, when I
Speaker 2: came to that conclusion, I immediately thought of you, and
Speaker 2: I said, I.
Speaker 3: Thought, upcome, that's a that's that's a I mean, if
Speaker 3: you're going to take things, it's hard to have a
Speaker 3: conversation with somebody when you're coming from extremes like that.
Speaker 2: Well, but that's the thing is I'm saying, when you
Speaker 2: boil it down to its most extreme, it doesn't mean
Speaker 2: everybody's there, but you got to admit that if you
Speaker 2: took it to the extreme, that's where it goes. And
Speaker 2: I thought of you because I thought this might explain
Speaker 2: to you why it is. I look at you, and
Speaker 2: I go, look, it sucks either way, because this is
Speaker 2: literally how I see it. When you take the most ridiculous, unorganized,
Speaker 2: idiotic Democrat all the way to their most extreme, they
Speaker 2: are literally about that bad to me, John Wayne Gacy.
Speaker 2: You take a Republican in that direction to their most extreme,
Speaker 2: they're honest participants in all that stuff. But if you
Speaker 2: blow it out all the way, you get to Ted Mundy.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: And they were both active adult voting people, participating in
Speaker 2: the parties, getting people elected, meeting with politicians. Ted Bundy
Speaker 2: was part of the Governor Washington's team. Literally, and like
Speaker 2: I said, Gaysey was a precinct captain for the Democrats,
Speaker 2: like literally, get out the Democratic vote, help people out.
Speaker 2: It didn't matter if it was zoning or whatever. Else, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm in.
Speaker 3: The talk about painting with a wide brush.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: It's I don't yeah, I would not feel comfortable from
Speaker 3: here on out having a political discussion with you, knowing
Speaker 3: that you're sitting there looking at those two far extremes
Speaker 3: and everybody falls in there, and if you shake the
Speaker 3: box enough, they separate out. Remember how you used to
Speaker 3: get seeds out of your pot. Yeah, you know, you
Speaker 3: put it in a tray and you tap the tray
Speaker 3: and it separates the pot and the seeds.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, when you're doing that with people, you're separating them
Speaker 3: ount and you're shaking them on the tray all the
Speaker 3: way to the end. So everybody ends up either is
Speaker 3: the Ted bundycam or if you have to make a
Speaker 3: gaycy cam, right, because that's I don't understand how you
Speaker 3: can have an effective conversation with somebody when you put
Speaker 3: them in those two groups.
Speaker 2: Well, because here's the thing. Primary, I know that that's
Speaker 2: not what each side is, but if you carry it
Speaker 2: out to its most extreme, that is what each side is,
Speaker 2: and those people are in each of your camps. That's
Speaker 2: my point. So you know, calm down, be reasonable. This
Speaker 2: is the problem we've had. Okay, the whole justice system
Speaker 2: is weaponized. Yeah, it's been that way, and it's not
Speaker 2: pointed particularly at you. You're taking offense to it now
Speaker 2: because they went after your guy, but it's not pointed
Speaker 2: particularly at you. I can't believe that, you know, Biden
Speaker 2: pardon hunter, What are you stupid? You're kidding me? Right?
Speaker 2: I mean in all seriousness?
Speaker 3: Uh not only you know, I would, I would totally.
Speaker 3: I would dimiss it and dismiss anybody that would make
Speaker 3: that comment simply because it's illogical.
Speaker 2: Which which part is illogical?
Speaker 3: I mean it's thinking that Biden wasn't gonna pardon this.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, so you agree with me? It's like,
Speaker 2: what are you stupid? I mean, of course he's.
Speaker 3: Gonna exactly, you know. I mean like it's like the media,
Speaker 3: you know, the major media when that came out, all
Speaker 3: we've asked several times, he's you know, he deny, he's
Speaker 3: gonna do it. He said he wouldn't part him, and
Speaker 3: he said he wouldn't pardon him. Joe Biden, What have
Speaker 3: you ever been able to trust anything that came out
Speaker 3: of Joe Biden's vou for one and number two who's
Speaker 3: not going to pardon their kid when you know he's
Speaker 3: getting ready to do time.
Speaker 2: Well there you go. Okay, whether whether your kid is
Speaker 2: you know, a ship show or he's something that you
Speaker 2: should be proud of, right, you don't want him to
Speaker 2: go that's.
Speaker 3: My ship show. So if I can't keep his ass
Speaker 3: up in jail, I'm hey, do it?
Speaker 2: Tell you tell me this? Okay? So I know mostly
Speaker 2: men listen to this show, So I'm not going to
Speaker 2: ask the mother question. But as a father, right, if
Speaker 2: you're a father and your kid, your kids will screw up.
Speaker 2: You can't even handle being around him. But somebody says
Speaker 2: to you, listen, he's going to go to prison for
Speaker 2: a while. If you give somebody a hundred bucks, you
Speaker 2: know something that isn't going to even cost you much,
Speaker 2: something that you're you can easily do. The kid doesn't
Speaker 2: have to go to prison. Tell me which father is
Speaker 2: not going to pull that kid out, even if he
Speaker 2: thinks he needs to learn a lesson, even if he
Speaker 2: thinks he's an ass, even if he thinks he's dumber
Speaker 2: than a box of rocks, you're going to pull your
Speaker 2: kid out of that fire. Mostly. I mean, maybe if.
Speaker 3: They're you know, Biden was gonna Nobody could look at
Speaker 3: Biden and think he wasn't going to do it, because
Speaker 3: it well from Hunter, Biden gone to jail, he'd have
Speaker 3: probably died in there.
Speaker 2: Well, and he's he's a politician. And there you go,
Speaker 2: a privileged kid his whole life pretty much, you know,
Speaker 2: after his exactly.
Speaker 3: You know, he's a privileged kid his whole life, and
Speaker 3: his dad had the ability to extend his privilege to
Speaker 3: not have to do jail time anybody. The thing is,
Speaker 3: if anybody, nobody can give a legitimate reason as to
Speaker 3: why Biden wouldn't pardon his son, that's the way, unless
Speaker 3: you're totally removed. It'd be different if if Hunter hadn't
Speaker 3: had anything to do with his dad since he was
Speaker 3: of legal age, and for the past thirty years he's
Speaker 3: been out doing his own own thing, no connection to
Speaker 3: the family, no connection to the money coming in. I mean,
Speaker 3: if he was totally disowned and Biden said he wasn't
Speaker 3: going to pardon him, I probably still wouldn't believe him.
Speaker 3: But I think the chances are greater that he wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Okay, I dispute that because I'm going to tell you
Speaker 2: right now, if that was the case, there'd be a
Speaker 2: guilt factor involved here, right, because it's like, hey, look,
Speaker 2: maybe if I guided him, he wouldn't be such a
Speaker 2: screw up. So maybe it's.
Speaker 3: Mney, but it's the family. There are family members out
Speaker 3: there who would not hesitate and not sweat or blinking
Speaker 3: eye if their beloved son went to prison.
Speaker 2: Trust me, no, I know that. But that's usually because
Speaker 2: they have already exhausted them. Okay, and they've already.
Speaker 3: I'm saying if this, if that had been the case,
Speaker 3: where over all this time, you know, there was no
Speaker 3: Biden is not suddenly going to do a one to
Speaker 3: eighty in the last three months, not partner this kid, right,
Speaker 3: That makes no sense.
Speaker 2: It's just like you didn't hear me really complain about
Speaker 2: Trump's pardons except for Roger Stone, right, That's the only
Speaker 2: one I complained about, But all the other pardons, like
Speaker 2: you didn't know he was going to pardon people that
Speaker 2: like remember when he pardoned the guy from Illinois again,
Speaker 2: Illinois on my brain? This week he pardoned a blogo
Speaker 2: there from Illinois. Right, the guy was selling Obama's Senate seat. Yeah, yeah, Bligoyevitch, right,
Speaker 2: they called him blogo for a while, the guy with
Speaker 2: the hair, you know what I'm talking about. Well, the
Speaker 2: point is it's like that was weird, but I wasn't
Speaker 2: even shocked or you know, the dismay to oh, I
Speaker 2: believe that you did this? Why not? They're entitled to
Speaker 2: do this. And take a look at the lists on
Speaker 2: these pardons. I mean, people are bitching this week on
Speaker 2: the right side of the paradigm about all these non
Speaker 2: violent drug offenders that that Biden pardon excuse me, but
Speaker 2: didn't Trump make a big show out of pardoning a
Speaker 2: non violent drug offender black lady because Kim Kardashian asked
Speaker 2: him to. Didn't everybody say, look, he's not racist. Well,
Speaker 2: I guess you forgot about that, and also you forgot
Speaker 2: about the majority of people in this country before things
Speaker 2: got insane a few years ago kind of agreed that,
Speaker 2: you know, if he's kind of a non violent drug
Speaker 2: offender and nobody died, and why are you in prison
Speaker 2: for thirty years? Why are you in prison for life
Speaker 2: because you had you know, eight pounds of pot on.
Speaker 3: You what that?
Speaker 2: Well is wrong?
Speaker 3: So Biden didn't make that decision. By whoever it is
Speaker 3: that's advising him. Came to see somebody in some group
Speaker 3: came up with this list, and I signed off on it. Right,
Speaker 3: it looks gets me about this. Look at it three
Speaker 3: days from now. I won't remember shit.
Speaker 2: But it's no worse or better than Kim Kardashians showing
Speaker 2: up and saying, can you let this black lady out?
Speaker 2: She didn't really hurt anybody, she just had some drugs.
Speaker 3: I never understood that either. I don't understand how Kardashians
Speaker 3: and Kanye wedged so close with Trump.
Speaker 2: Well, because they were famous and they ingratiated themselves. That's
Speaker 2: his ego. I don't care about any of that. Point
Speaker 2: is that it's no better or worse is it? And
Speaker 2: you're I mean, seriously, can you say to me that
Speaker 2: that's that's better because you know, or that's worse. I
Speaker 2: don't see it. I see I don't know.
Speaker 3: If you want to look at the size one versus
Speaker 3: seventy five hundred, No, no, no, that's the case. Why
Speaker 3: not let them all out?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, examine Trump's pardons. There's a whole bunch
Speaker 2: of them rubber stamp there where there was a bunch
Speaker 2: of people that didn't make the news cycle. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: just pointing out the stuff that was complained about by
Speaker 2: the opposite side. Okay, people on the right are bitching
Speaker 2: this week about all these pardons. People on the left
Speaker 2: were bitching about. Kim Gardashian shows up and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, he cares about one black person. He's still racist.
Speaker 2: They were doing it from both sides, and I'm sitting
Speaker 2: there going, why are you bitching about this? This makes
Speaker 2: perfect sense. This is political movement. This is the most
Speaker 2: natural thing. Also, he lied about this and that, get
Speaker 2: over it, politician, lie surprise not me, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Come on, you know it's like it's like
Speaker 2: expecting to go on.
Speaker 3: I just don't remember. I'm sorry, I just I don't
Speaker 3: remember a lot of press or bitching going on about
Speaker 3: Trump's pardons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they did.
Speaker 3: They did. There's a lot of be able to talk
Speaker 3: about Rogerstone and all that shit. You know, well, he
Speaker 3: was dead to rights, they had him dead to rights,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and you let him off. And what
Speaker 3: was the other one, Well I.
Speaker 2: Got that and it was witness tampering, which is not
Speaker 2: a joke. Okay, that is something you know, how many
Speaker 2: people have gotten screwed on that when they didn't do
Speaker 2: anything to tamper with the witness, but just somehow made
Speaker 2: contact with them, you know, somebody was the FBI.
Speaker 3: It just depends on how you answered their question before
Speaker 3: that becomes a charge. Another charge thrown on your sheet.
Speaker 3: Both they talked to so and so. Really what did
Speaker 3: you talk to him about? But yeah, but that's let's
Speaker 3: see if we can't get you a little bit of
Speaker 3: tampering thrown in.
Speaker 2: There right exactly my point, like the outrage on one
Speaker 2: side over they lied to the FBI, and then on
Speaker 2: outrage on the other side, because it's.
Speaker 3: A I've never understood why it's a crime to lie
Speaker 3: to the FBI.
Speaker 2: Outside outside of the Bible, where is it a law?
Speaker 2: Can you answer that? You know?
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean yeah, I mean that's what I don't get.
Speaker 3: They can lie to you. They can lie to you
Speaker 3: from Sunday to the next Sunday and that's okay. But
Speaker 3: if you lie to them, that suddenly becomes a crime.
Speaker 2: Why exactly, don't we have.
Speaker 3: Freedom of speech. Don't we have freedom to not you know,
Speaker 3: not narc on ourselves under the Fifth Amendment. So if
Speaker 3: I tell an FBI agent A lie. I have never
Speaker 3: understood the legal foundation for that being constitutional.
Speaker 2: Ever, Hey, I have a creative I don't get it.
Speaker 2: I have a creative suggestion which is coming to me
Speaker 2: from a live interaction on X. By the way, So
Speaker 2: I need to ask you a question, b Pete. Would
Speaker 2: you be willing to, instead of doing the call in
Speaker 2: show for two hours next week, do an abbreviated call
Speaker 2: in show, okay, but join me on a guest spot
Speaker 2: on somebody else's show. Sure, at the same time at
Speaker 2: eight pm. Would that be cool with you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, So we'll broadcast that anochelli dot com next
Speaker 2: week live, okay, and let you guys hear it, and
Speaker 2: it'll become a podcast later. And then whatever time we
Speaker 2: have until ten o'clock if Aaron is not, you know,
Speaker 2: taking a week off next week, whatever time we have
Speaker 2: up until ten o'clock, we'll do the regular call in.
Speaker 2: So we'll do an abbreviated call in next week if
Speaker 2: Aaron is doing a show. If he is not, maybe
Speaker 2: we can extend it. Depends on your participation, you guys listening,
Speaker 2: how about that? But yeah, so how about that? I'll
Speaker 2: get you involved in this loop and I'll answer this,
Speaker 2: but I think we'll do a guest spot on somebody
Speaker 2: else's show next week and I'll just quietly broadcast it
Speaker 2: right here live on Chelly dot com. Do you have
Speaker 2: the ability to use Zoom.
Speaker 3: By the way, I could just load on the computer,
Speaker 3: all right, you.
Speaker 2: Might need to do Zoom for this because you know
Speaker 2: other people they got eighty different things you can do,
Speaker 2: and most people have boiled down to using Zoom lately anymore.
Speaker 2: You know a couple of people when they want to
Speaker 2: pay for it, they use either stream Yard or what's
Speaker 2: that other one, rivers Riverside anyway, so they have a
Speaker 2: couple of different platforms now. But you might have to
Speaker 2: actually go get Zoom. But it's free, and you know,
Speaker 2: you just got to follow the Zoom invite link and
Speaker 2: go there a little early and you can download the
Speaker 2: Zoom and get it and get right on.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's gonna be a video podcast.
Speaker 2: No, it'll be audio, but I think I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'll check, I'll check. I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It might be, but then again, you can always not
Speaker 2: have your video on. That's fine.
Speaker 3: Well, No, I'm just wondering because I've got to hook
Speaker 3: my camera up. I mean, I've got my laptop, but
Speaker 3: my laptop is acting like it's in a docking station.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I understand, but you might be but you
Speaker 2: might be better off band with why it's not sending
Speaker 2: your video through anyway, that way you keep your audio
Speaker 2: strong depends I mean, you know, it depends on the circumstance.
Speaker 2: But either way, I know the guy uses Zoom, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't remember if he does video
Speaker 2: or it's audio.
Speaker 3: Right, I'll load it up. I mean, it doesn't bother
Speaker 3: me if it is video. I just need to get my.
Speaker 2: Camera out, all right, and we'll we'll put it through live,
Speaker 2: like I said, So you'll still have a show next
Speaker 2: Friday at eight pm. It'll just be a little different,
Speaker 2: a little mixed up, okay, And you'll have Zoom on
Speaker 2: his computer. You might, you know, at some point you
Speaker 2: might have you know, downloaded it when everybody was being
Speaker 2: locked down and stuff, because it seemed like everybody.
Speaker 3: I bought this one from a pawn shop, and when
Speaker 3: it was loaded, it had a lot of that free
Speaker 3: craft already on it, like Skygo and all this other stuff.
Speaker 3: So I mean, yeah that I'll have Zoom, I'll I'll
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's free and it's fairly lightweight. And you know
Speaker 2: the other thing is you don't necessarily have to download it.
Speaker 2: You can do it through a browser. I think most
Speaker 2: browsers will support it, so you know, it's not like
Speaker 2: you need to get a program. So we'll do a
Speaker 2: live thing, be on a discussion next week. Now I
Speaker 2: don't know if that will join in other people or not.
Speaker 2: We may be a part of a guest panel, but
Speaker 2: then again, we may be the guest panel, which would
Speaker 2: be fun. And I think it would be great to
Speaker 2: have questions asked by somebody who I know is listened
Speaker 2: to this show with you and me on it. So anyway, look,
Speaker 2: I'm looking to throw some curve balls this year, and
Speaker 2: we're definitely going to do that on the network with
Speaker 2: the shows everything. I'm going to shake stuff up because
Speaker 2: it's time. And you know what, I see you guys
Speaker 2: out there getting bored, and so am I. And it's
Speaker 2: because the world is so predictable at this point in
Speaker 2: my mind. And I'll tell you I'm looking forward to
Speaker 2: Monday in the beginning of risk responsibility transfers because you know,
Speaker 2: I heard b pie s last week, and I'm wondering
Speaker 2: if this is going to carry through with anybody else.
Speaker 2: But now, now those of you have complained that the
Speaker 2: Communists have been in control of the country for the
Speaker 2: past four years, you're going to have the other side
Speaker 2: of the equation in control of the House, the Senate,
Speaker 2: the White House, and in my mind, the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2: You don't get to blame anybody else. Now it's your
Speaker 2: guys who are going to be in charge. And I
Speaker 2: want to see if it's going to roll about the
Speaker 2: way I think it's going to roll, which is going
Speaker 2: to be Ted Bundy's too good looking of a guy,
Speaker 2: He's too smart to be a sexual, sadist murderer. It
Speaker 2: can't be. It can't be that I'm suffering because of
Speaker 2: these guys. It can't be. I think that's what's going
Speaker 2: to happen. And you know what Democrats do it too.
Speaker 2: It's so funny when they're in charge of everything. They'll
Speaker 2: blame the unsilented majority or minority when they're in charge.
Speaker 2: And I think the same thing's going to happen, but
Speaker 2: only four years a bit unless you want to vote
Speaker 2: for President Vance or the constitution gets changed in the
Speaker 2: next four years. I guess stay tuned anyway, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: answer this question. But BP, what time is it? I mean,
Speaker 2: and we got to be running low on time now.
Speaker 3: Right, it's about quarter two.
Speaker 2: So there's still time for you guys to get in.
Speaker 2: Let me take a look at the phone lines. You're
Speaker 2: not getting in on it. But anything of interest you
Speaker 2: saw this week? I have a feeling I might know
Speaker 2: a couple of things that you saw of interest this week,
Speaker 2: But I was just curious anything stand out to you.
Speaker 2: Did you notice or hear about? Oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: I heard from and I can't substantiate this, so I'm
Speaker 2: going to call this an unsubstantiated rumor, although I heard
Speaker 2: from somebody directly involved. Your girl Tulsey does not know
Speaker 2: how to talk to people and get stuff done, apparently,
Speaker 2: according to people in her own party now on the hill,
Speaker 2: and they weren't prepared for her hearing. How do you
Speaker 2: feel about that? And you know, do you have any opinion?
Speaker 3: I think I think she's going to get confirmed, and
Speaker 3: I think she'll do a good job.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think they're all going to get confirmed. So
Speaker 2: I agree with you halfway. But under what premise do
Speaker 2: you believe that she's going to do a good job.
Speaker 2: I just out of curiosity, just.
Speaker 3: From just from the way she acted when she was
Speaker 3: in Congress and some things she said. Since she's left,
Speaker 3: you know, she's what a colonel in the National Guard,
Speaker 3: she's I think she's still a member. I think she's
Speaker 3: at colonel stage. I'm not sure. I'll have to check
Speaker 3: that she was past captain. Let's see. No, I think
Speaker 3: she'll do a good job. I think she's got the
Speaker 3: background for it. I think she's got the temper room
Speaker 3: for it, and I think she's got the skills for it.
Speaker 2: Really because, according to reports from people who are in
Speaker 2: the room, and meanwhile, I'm telling you now this hasn't
Speaker 2: been out in the media too much, she doesn't know
Speaker 2: how to communicate and doesn't seem to have an agenda,
Speaker 2: according to some people who were there when she was
Speaker 2: having these supposedly private meeting, not.
Speaker 3: A good thing. Yeah she's a lieutenant Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well she's a lieutenant colonel. Yeah, okay, Well, not having
Speaker 2: an agenda kind of sucks when you're going to go
Speaker 2: and take over an agency, I think, especially one that well.
Speaker 3: I think I think I think going into it without
Speaker 3: an agenda is the best way.
Speaker 2: To go in what No, Okay, maybe maybe I'm using
Speaker 2: the wrong word here. She doesn't seem to have a
Speaker 2: strategic idea about what it is she wants to change
Speaker 2: or do not necessarily you know, Okay, I have an
Speaker 2: idealism that I'm going to stick to, or the ideologue thing,
Speaker 2: or I have to go with a particular politicals No, No,
Speaker 2: not like that, like as in, I don't know what
Speaker 2: to do with any of this, Like I don't know
Speaker 2: what the agency does. Something that she should have been
Speaker 2: able to, you know, pull up on Wikipedia even not
Speaker 2: in her grasp, and she know about this nomination for
Speaker 2: a while. And they weren't prepared for a confirmation here.
Speaker 2: You know, it's something seems off here. So I'm just curious.
Speaker 2: You really, you really think the good.
Speaker 3: Job is saying who wasn't prepared? Cappard wasn't prepared for
Speaker 3: her confirmation?
Speaker 2: Well, they Trump team pulled her out of a scheduled
Speaker 2: hearing for you know, in front of the committee she
Speaker 2: needed to go. You know how they go in front
Speaker 2: of the committee and they you know, they run them
Speaker 2: through the mill a little bit and you know, do
Speaker 2: like they did today, with the Department of Homeland Security nominee,
Speaker 2: where it's like, are you going to fix the border?
Speaker 2: Are you going to go along with Trump's agenda? Are
Speaker 2: you going to fix this problem? Are you gonna get
Speaker 2: rid of this stupid apple brand? Okay, that's what they do.
Speaker 2: Some of it is grandstanding, some of it is you know,
Speaker 2: punctuating political points blah blah blah blah. But tell you
Speaker 2: this that DHS lady was prepared for all.
Speaker 3: I think the reason the reason that they didn't have
Speaker 3: the hearing is because the Democrats are putting it off.
Speaker 2: No, she was not prepared. They pulled out of it.
Speaker 3: That was no, no, no, no, no President like here,
Speaker 3: it just right here, President like Donald Trump's pick the
Speaker 3: lead US intelligence community does not have a Senate confirmation
Speaker 3: hearing on the horizon. I mean concerns from Democrats over
Speaker 3: missing vetting materials.
Speaker 2: Okay, where the Democrats on a Senate.
Speaker 3: Intelligence committee say they still do not have an FBI
Speaker 3: background check or ethics disclosure from the Office of Government
Speaker 3: Ethics as a Monday.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's ridiculous. Now, hang on, there was a scheduled
Speaker 2: hearing and the day that it was canceled, there was
Speaker 2: a totally different explanation for this, and it was team
Speaker 2: Trump pulling her out of it. So do you see
Speaker 2: why the hearing was canceled.
Speaker 3: To what I'm reading. According to what I'm reading, it's
Speaker 3: not been Trump pulling her out of it.
Speaker 2: Well, but they were the ones who did, because she
Speaker 2: was scheduled to go and they canceled it, and they
Speaker 2: had they had.
Speaker 3: Another one, and as the chairman of the panel, and
Speaker 3: he had planned on holding it until the Democrats started saying,
Speaker 3: no way, we've done. God, we don't have this, we
Speaker 3: don't have that. So it's not it's not Trump pulled
Speaker 3: her out.
Speaker 2: Well, a background a background check, that's just ridiculous from
Speaker 2: a bureaucratic standpoint when you're putting somebody in charge of DHS.
Speaker 2: But they were two hearings canceled that day. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm sure she's gonna get cancer.
Speaker 3: It's all done. Here's the Hill has got an article
Speaker 3: right here four days ago Senate Democrats wanted to slow
Speaker 3: the roll on Tulsa Gabbard. This is all coming from
Speaker 3: the Democrats. They're the ones putting there, you know, the
Speaker 3: brakes on. Okay, And I don't know if it's because
Speaker 3: they think there's something in some report or background check
Speaker 3: that's going to show up for them. Like I said,
Speaker 3: the woman's been in the army for what twenty years?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lieutenant colonel.
Speaker 3: She was a member of Congress.
Speaker 2: But how much that doesn't mean that she got vetted
Speaker 2: for or cleared for everything all along the way. And
Speaker 2: you're talking about being put in a sensitive position. So
Speaker 2: if it is about clearances and vetting.
Speaker 3: And all that own party, wait a minute, her own
Speaker 3: party put her on the Defense Committee all four years
Speaker 3: that she was in Congress. This is Democrats playing theater.
Speaker 2: She was on the.
Speaker 3: Defense Committee.
Speaker 2: Let me see. Yeah, but see a fresh background check up.
Speaker 2: But a fresh background check again would be necessary to
Speaker 2: put her in a sensitive position. And you know that
Speaker 2: they don't just grant those clearances and leave it that way.
Speaker 2: When a couple of years later you got a new job,
Speaker 2: they recheck it the NSA at random.
Speaker 3: The least worry I would have Israel passing a background check.
Speaker 2: Well, even even a tour guide at the NSA goes
Speaker 2: through more scrutiny than to have that kind of thing
Speaker 2: not be checked through the FBI gets up into your
Speaker 2: rectum and guess how I know that because I applied
Speaker 2: for that job, so you know, and they went back
Speaker 2: into my childhood from my general NSA application. I applied
Speaker 2: to be a part of the NSA.
Speaker 3: She was on the House Armed Services Committee for all
Speaker 3: four years in.
Speaker 2: Congress, but when did she leave Congress?
Speaker 3: Also, shelf served as vice chair of the Democratic National
Speaker 3: Committee from thirteen to sixteen, Jamean Dorse Bernie Sanders for
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, and that's when she fell out with the
Speaker 3: Hillary crowd and they even trashed her ever since.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, no clearance necessary to be a DNC official.
Speaker 2: No clearance necessary in Congress.
Speaker 3: You have to have a security clearance when you're on
Speaker 3: the Defense Committee and you're also a lieutenant colonel in
Speaker 3: the army.
Speaker 2: Yes, but that needs to be rechecked constantly because, like
Speaker 2: I said, even if you're employed by the NSA in
Speaker 2: a you know, as a janitor, for Christ's sake, they
Speaker 2: will recheck you every couple of years. So if the
Speaker 2: last time that she was you know, vetted for security
Speaker 2: purposes was two years ago, they want to know about
Speaker 2: the last two years and also double check. That's what
Speaker 2: they do.
Speaker 3: That's not going to be an issue, and if that
Speaker 3: hasn't come back yet and the Democrats don't want to
Speaker 3: have the hearing until they get it, fine, but you,
Speaker 3: because of Trumps worried about.
Speaker 2: It, but you're not worried about her. Trump's not worried
Speaker 2: about it at all. I grant you that. But what
Speaker 2: I'm saying is, don't you think it would be practical
Speaker 2: and pragmatic to double check anybody who's going to go
Speaker 2: into that sensitive a position.
Speaker 3: No, I think she's I think I think she's fine. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you could, yes, check them, but I'm not worried about
Speaker 3: her passing the check.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not necessarily worried about it either. But what
Speaker 2: I'm saying is, shouldn't it have been necessary to make
Speaker 2: sure it was done before the scheduled hearing?
Speaker 3: Well, see that's the thing. If it's not done, it's
Speaker 3: the Democrats who are running the government right now, And
Speaker 3: if it ain't done, it's because they haven't done it.
Speaker 2: Well, they're not running it up to her.
Speaker 3: I mean, every people seem to forget Trump's not in
Speaker 3: office right now. The Democrats are running this circus until Monday.
Speaker 3: So if the FBI hadn't gotten her off their ass
Speaker 3: to get a background check done, or to get a
Speaker 3: security questionnaire finished and hand it back to them. That's
Speaker 3: on the fucking Democrats. It ain't on Trump. They ain't
Speaker 3: on Trump's team. They're not in office.
Speaker 2: Okay. But here's the thing. They are in office in
Speaker 2: the Congress. And uh, you know it's still Chris Ray
Speaker 2: at the FBI, isn't it. Yeah, that's trump appointee.
Speaker 3: Working for Bidy. They've been working for Trump the past
Speaker 3: four years.
Speaker 2: No, but he was with But Trump is the guy
Speaker 2: who inserted him, who put the position.
Speaker 3: But what does that guy to do anything? Raised the
Speaker 3: one turned around six to the FBI on Trump?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I'm saying, is right now to
Speaker 3: the cabinet. Yes, Congress is run by the Republicans right now,
Speaker 3: but right now eating stuff from the FBI. They've been
Speaker 3: slow walking stuff to Republicans for four years. You think
Speaker 3: they're suddenly going to pick up the pace. Well, No, Well,
Speaker 3: and if they want to have the hearing, then tell
Speaker 3: them to get off their ass and get their paperwork done, okay,
Speaker 3: and then we can have the hearing.
Speaker 2: But proceed.
Speaker 3: I worried about a background check on somebody that's still
Speaker 3: a lieutenant colonel in the army.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, see, now there there's a poor assumption, because
Speaker 2: in my mind, you've always got a check and you've
Speaker 2: got to keep up on it because you know somebody
Speaker 2: can change in two years, even though they are so
Speaker 2: serving their country. You also can't tell me that.
Speaker 3: You honestly, let me ask you, do you honestly think
Speaker 3: that there's an issue with Tulsa Gabbert's character to perform
Speaker 3: that job.
Speaker 2: No, I am not saying that specifically. What I'm saying
Speaker 2: is in general, everybody who is in a sense inive
Speaker 2: position needs to be rechecked every couple of years because
Speaker 2: things happen. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see, the FBI is run by the Democrats
Speaker 3: right now. The Defense Department is run by the Democrats
Speaker 3: right now. So if there's an issue with getting it done,
Speaker 3: I think it's fault you're you're attributing the reason that
Speaker 3: she's not had the hearing because there's something the Republicans
Speaker 3: are worried about and they pull her out of something
Speaker 3: when it's the Democrats who don't want to have it
Speaker 3: because they say they don't have their homework.
Speaker 4: Homework.
Speaker 3: And then have the hearing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying it's because the Democrats are worried
Speaker 2: or the Republicans are worried. What I'm saying is that
Speaker 2: one way or another, it should have been done. And
Speaker 2: I don't think the Democrats could have obstructed enough to
Speaker 2: slow it down when you could have got it done
Speaker 2: bureaucratically through people. I'm serious.
Speaker 3: Excuse me. Yeah, you're talking about Tulsa Gabbart who used
Speaker 3: to be a Democrat and is now a Republican. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but do you honestly think they're going to make it
Speaker 3: easy on her?
Speaker 2: Actually? Yeah, if the Fox News host had his crap together,
Speaker 2: right heg seth Okay, I'm just saying he had his
Speaker 2: crap together, didn't he?
Speaker 3: And Tolci when she goes before him, we'll have her
Speaker 3: stuff together.
Speaker 2: But didn't he have his stuff together, had his scheduled hearing?
Speaker 2: Or Am I crazy?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But Tolcy's not the one that's having to come up
Speaker 3: with the stuff. No, but he's the Democrats. Well, we
Speaker 3: haven't gotten Wait, it's the it's the Democrats on this
Speaker 3: committee that have not gotten there paperwork back, their paperwork,
Speaker 3: their stuff that they they say they have to have
Speaker 3: but the stuff described here, the public decided it's not
Speaker 3: Tulson Gabbard's responsibility to walk in with all the paperwork
Speaker 3: that the Democrats want. Okay, he's they're ready for confirmation hearing.
Speaker 3: They don't want to have the hearing. They're the ones
Speaker 3: that are putting it off. I don't see how this
Speaker 3: falls on anybody on Gabbard or Trump's side.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is that the incompleteness of this is
Speaker 2: not about Democrat Even if they did try to obstructed
Speaker 2: through this, it is absolutely ridiculous that it couldn't have
Speaker 2: been accomplished, especially because they didn't necessarily have to study
Speaker 2: her whole life. Haigseth required a more extensive study for
Speaker 2: a background.
Speaker 3: JEM senators in Georgia that are Democrats right there, call
Speaker 3: their office and ask them why they're not holding the hearing.
Speaker 2: Answer. I don't know, because they're not actually in the
Speaker 2: majority at the moment because that changed, and they're not
Speaker 2: in control of these committees either. But anyway, we're almost done,
Speaker 2: so I want to give you the final word for
Speaker 2: the night, and it's not about politics here, it's about
Speaker 2: whatever else is out on your mind. Go right ahead,
Speaker 2: because Aaron Franz is coming up next with the Age
Speaker 2: of Transitions on Chelly dot com. And thank god because
Speaker 2: my voice is getting weak already. But I like that wall.
Speaker 2: I just hit there with Tulca Gabbart. That's a great wall.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Anyways, go ahead, Well, I don't understand what wall you're
Speaker 3: talking about. I just simply I'm taking up to the person.
Speaker 3: And the story started that it was Trump pulling her
Speaker 3: out of this, and it was the Republicans pulling her
Speaker 3: out of this because they weren't prepared. And that's not
Speaker 3: what it turns out to be.
Speaker 2: Because that's who took the action. Because that's who took
Speaker 2: the action that day. That's the way it was announced
Speaker 2: in real time. Now there's other explanations, but in real time,
Speaker 2: that's the way it was announced. That's why because I
Speaker 2: watched it live happen.
Speaker 3: But anyway, go ahead, coolky, Well, well, go TOLSI want
Speaker 3: everybody to sit there and support her for her new position.
Speaker 3: Let's make this thing quick and let's get aver the
Speaker 3: road so that the Republicans can own this from day
Speaker 3: one exactly.
Speaker 2: I want to give you a shocking thing here. I
Speaker 2: want her confirmed I want every one of Trump's people confirmed.
Speaker 2: I want this to happen, all of it, because I
Speaker 2: know where it's going. And when you got the technocrats
Speaker 2: lined up there for inauguration day because they gave their
Speaker 2: millions of dollars and Elon Musk apparently gave a quarter
Speaker 2: of a billion dollars. Yeah, I want you to see
Speaker 2: the pay to play government, and I want you to
Speaker 2: see how it works. And you know what, If it
Speaker 2: works good, then I say we start putting some gangsters
Speaker 2: in office. Let's get business done for real, break other
Speaker 2: people's legs for once. I bet you we can pay
Speaker 2: for health care you get a gangster in there, a
Speaker 2: real one, not a fake one. Anyways, I want to
Speaker 2: see them all confirmed, every last one, every last one,
Speaker 2: no argument, no nothing, matter of fact. Bring Matt Gates
Speaker 2: back for Attorney General. Bring it. I want to see it,
Speaker 2: and I want to watch what happens. I really do. Seriously,
Speaker 2: I'm rooting for Tulsi, but I think it's unacceptable that
Speaker 2: this was not prepared. It was not like it was
Speaker 2: a surprise. It should have gotten done. It could have
Speaker 2: gotten done through handoffs directly to friendly people in each agency.
Speaker 2: No problem, they've done it before. Each side has snaked
Speaker 2: around the other before in each agency. So anyways, go
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