Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is AJ and I go back with
Speaker 1: another episode of Everything Is a Bitch. This is episode
Speaker 1: number thirty two. We're no longer crediting O. J. Simpson
Speaker 1: with the numbers Jim Brown. It's our Jim Brown episode. So,
Speaker 1: speaking of sports, what better place to start than our
Speaker 1: lovely Knicks. So you feel about Tims getting shown the
Speaker 1: door yesterday?
Speaker 2: Shocked? I don't know what else the guy has to do.
Speaker 2: I understand the problems we're facing with our starters. Obviously
Speaker 2: there was some grumblings by fellow Nicks didn't like the
Speaker 2: demands he put on their bodies. But I think, look,
Speaker 2: we were ready to give the guy his own statue
Speaker 2: of New York when we beat the Celtics. I mean,
Speaker 2: we're ready to give this everything, bless you. And here
Speaker 2: we are a week and a half, two weeks later,
Speaker 2: and she's gone. It's a thankless job for a team
Speaker 2: that hasn't done a lot outside of him being the
Speaker 2: main guy. So I'm shocked. I think they look at it.
Speaker 2: I mean, they make it. When you fire a guy
Speaker 2: like him, you have to have somebody in the chamber
Speaker 2: ready to go. You can't make this a long search.
Speaker 2: Now you fire Thibodeau. That get me. I mean, I'm
Speaker 2: just throwing names. Get me, callim Parry, get me Jay Wright,
Speaker 2: Mark Jackson. Just put some names out there so the
Speaker 2: Knick fans aren't just feeling abandoned right now.
Speaker 1: The only way I'm happy is if they can figure
Speaker 1: out a way to bring Kobe Bryant back to coach
Speaker 1: the team. Otherwise, yeah, that's what the fuck. Look at
Speaker 1: the Look at the list of Nick coaches over the
Speaker 1: years and their records, right, and you got to go
Speaker 1: back to Red Holtzman for anybody who had this kind
Speaker 1: of success over this extended period of time. He drove
Speaker 1: me crazy at times. I do think he blew Game
Speaker 1: four by coming out in the third quarter with the
Speaker 1: lineup and leaving that he came out with and then
Speaker 1: leaving him on the floor for as long as he
Speaker 1: left him on the floor. Yeah, but you better have
Speaker 1: some big I mean, you better have a no brainer here.
Speaker 1: It is something everybody's going to react to with, Oh okay,
Speaker 1: now we understand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't think they have that.
Speaker 2: I heard you know they don't, but they they said that,
Speaker 2: you don't go maybe from Houston might be a big higher.
Speaker 2: People are high on him. I don't know. Mike Brown's
Speaker 2: name came up, come out, Mike Brown. Jesus not, No,
Speaker 2: we did that. Yeah, oh well, well look, you know what,
Speaker 2: I don't look get kid Fan ket Van Dundee back.
Speaker 2: But why don't we keep over looking Mark Jackson. I
Speaker 2: think he's such a natural fit. Uh. Either way, Look
Speaker 2: the big startling statistic that Nick Fan's really got. We
Speaker 2: didn't have any clue that our starters minutes for the
Speaker 2: season versus the paces. Actually we played extra fifteen games
Speaker 2: as an organization on starters. That's a lot on their body.
Speaker 1: No, he had the shortest bench in the NBA by far,
Speaker 1: and also had iron man kind of guys. I mean, Hearts, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, b Heart, nog Og, I don't know. I'm sorry, Heart,
Speaker 2: I don't ob and Bridges are iron men, but you
Speaker 2: can't have them score in six points. OG's got to
Speaker 2: be a bigger scorer. Bridges has to give us eighteen tonight.
Speaker 2: You have to be consisted.
Speaker 1: Trade's going to haunt us. I know, I know Trade's
Speaker 1: going to haunt us because he's not the guy that
Speaker 1: we thought.
Speaker 2: No, he was he's soft. You get it in six
Speaker 2: feet of the rim and all you do is your
Speaker 2: fade aways. It looks pretty, but I get very nervous
Speaker 2: of a guy getting within four feet of the rim
Speaker 2: and then looking for a pass back out to somebody.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, you're a big boy. Go score like
Speaker 2: the patients dead on.
Speaker 1: Us well, And I think one of the things that's
Speaker 1: going to come out, I really because I've watched him
Speaker 1: play so much and the correlation before and after is
Speaker 1: too sharp. Something happened to Josh Hart when they hit
Speaker 1: him in the eye and he got the stitches. He's
Speaker 1: a freaking machine. I know. He's a machine. And his
Speaker 1: hustle factor, his just his overall work ethic. He's a
Speaker 1: he's a he's all heart. And from that moment on
Speaker 1: the rest of the playoffs, he was fu terrible.
Speaker 2: I know he was.
Speaker 1: Terrible, and not even close to himself. And the kinds
Speaker 1: of mistakes he was making.
Speaker 2: The turn of a machine, those passes.
Speaker 1: Were all kinds of mistakes he was making are the
Speaker 1: kinds of mistakes I think you make if you're concussed,
Speaker 1: if you have a serious issue with your vision. You know,
Speaker 1: because his shot went to hell, too, so so his
Speaker 1: depth perception was in paired. He wasn't seeing the court right.
Speaker 1: He was making really stupid passes he would never otherwise make.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they would tell us at this
Speaker 1: point or not if it came out, but because they
Speaker 1: were in no position to play without him, they didn't
Speaker 1: have they from the conversation we just had. They didn't
Speaker 1: have any depth to backfill taking him out of the lineup. No,
Speaker 1: but he was nowhere near the player. He was fifty
Speaker 1: percent of the guy. I mean, look at his stat
Speaker 1: line from that point on to what it was prior
Speaker 1: than that. I'm convinced something was really wrong with him.
Speaker 1: And it coincides exactly with him taking that shot to
Speaker 1: the eye and yeating the stitches and then I was
Speaker 1: swollen as hell.
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I didn't think about that. You
Speaker 2: said that on an email. I think you're right because
Speaker 2: he obviously plays with all heart all the time, and
Speaker 2: something just fell out of him. And like I said,
Speaker 2: he's not a quitter. I don't think he'll admit to
Speaker 2: it because he's too proud of a guy. But maybe
Speaker 2: the nick Brass has to say something about art possibly
Speaker 2: not not being his best, and.
Speaker 1: I think there was. I think there was something there. Okay,
Speaker 1: So do you have a do you have a pick?
Speaker 2: I like Mark Jackson. I think he's driving true New York.
Speaker 2: It was a great nick. He's a decent coach. He
Speaker 2: knows the game well. I think it would bring a
Speaker 2: lot to have a New York point guard coach Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 2: What a great story that Mark Jackson. I believe, But
Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong, But I know Jalen was a ball boy.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember if Jackson was a knick back then.
Speaker 2: Probably not. I think he were. No, he was, he
Speaker 2: was was.
Speaker 1: One of the problems with Jackson is that he's remembered
Speaker 1: more as a piecer and those are big routs. And
Speaker 1: number two, you know, when he lost the Golden State job,
Speaker 1: he lost it because he refused to move and relocate
Speaker 1: because of his ministry. And so I think that's somewhere
Speaker 1: in southern California. I don't I don't know that it
Speaker 1: could get pulled off with him. And by the way,
Speaker 1: where's he been? He was? You know, he was doing
Speaker 1: the games with Van Gundhi and then he got fired
Speaker 1: along with y you know, so, but I don't think
Speaker 1: he's done anything since he's probably been been at, you know,
Speaker 1: in his ministry.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think that's a direction.
Speaker 2: It's just a nostalgic pick for me. But but I
Speaker 2: do think that well, like I said, we didn't name
Speaker 2: what do you? I mean?
Speaker 1: The j Wright thing makes sense because you got his
Speaker 1: whole national championship team there on the Knicks, and so
Speaker 1: that also is why speculation is wild about it, because
Speaker 1: he's currently doing comment a commentator. He's not coaching at
Speaker 1: the college level anymore. I don't think he ever coached
Speaker 1: at the pro.
Speaker 2: Level though I don't believe so. I don't think so
Speaker 2: that's that's a big mark on him. You can't. You
Speaker 2: gotta be careful. It's a nice story, but has he
Speaker 2: proven himself in the pros? No, But David, guys like
Speaker 2: kla Parry's being mentioned. It's got to be a big name.
Speaker 2: You can't come to New York with that team the
Speaker 2: way to assembled right now, bringing glory back to the
Speaker 2: city after twenty five years, and come up with a
Speaker 2: name that doesn't invoke any fear and opponents or any
Speaker 2: happiness in our fans.
Speaker 1: Could be Spike leew that prick.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, stephen A. You know, let me tell
Speaker 2: you how crazy this is, how crazy the world is.
Speaker 2: When I was at the New York Daily News, I
Speaker 2: have my gossip column, I was like a big shot.
Speaker 2: Stephen A. Smith was our high school sports reporter. Talk
Speaker 2: about talk about a career exploding and mind going in
Speaker 2: a completely different way. But that's just wow. I forget
Speaker 2: about that. Sometimes he was a high school sports reporter.
Speaker 1: And can you think about a career that exploded anywhere
Speaker 1: for less reason than his career exploded.
Speaker 2: I oh, look.
Speaker 1: At his career. It's just a collection of bad takes.
Speaker 2: He's never he makes a lot of mistakes he does, he's.
Speaker 1: Never writ about anything. Oh, he does his yell. He's
Speaker 1: had some some good like when he uh and Max
Speaker 1: Kellerman used to mix.
Speaker 2: It up right right.
Speaker 1: I didn't like it.
Speaker 2: Show that that ended. Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1: See, I like when steven A has to deal with
Speaker 1: somebody he doesn't like. I think that could be can
Speaker 1: be fun.
Speaker 3: But I mean, he's got a serious thirty million dollars,
Speaker 3: but he's got a serious He's on serious now and
Speaker 3: suding in September before Mad Dog and after Mad Dog,
Speaker 3: it's his his career and he's talking about running for
Speaker 3: president and getting his feet well.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but that's part of his show.
Speaker 2: Now he goes politics on you. I listen to his podcast.
Speaker 2: I like his brash just I always like the fact
Speaker 2: that he's loud and outspoken. But yeah, no, I don't
Speaker 2: think he's right a lot. I've seen the scene what's
Speaker 2: his name, Jake what? The other guy listened to the
Speaker 2: other black reporter who's great? Lock?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Lock has had him on the tip of his nose
Speaker 2: for a long time. It has talked about all the
Speaker 2: lies Stephen Asmith has come up with over the years.
Speaker 2: It really exposed him a lot, but didn't matter. Sports
Speaker 2: Center Brass just made him the network he is.
Speaker 1: It is crazy how he is the man there. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, I guess the couple of women that are
Speaker 1: still listening, we can move on, move on from the
Speaker 1: Knicks for their for their sake, but our poor Knicks.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, Nicks so sick of saying it.
Speaker 1: All right, So do you see this story about this
Speaker 1: Texas guy that jumped the wall at Marlaga.
Speaker 2: I saw it. I didn't get too deep into it.
Speaker 2: Did he have that? Was he armed?
Speaker 1: No, he wasn't armed. What he wanted to do was
Speaker 1: two things. He wanted to One spread the Gospel and
Speaker 1: two he wanted permission to marry Trump's eighteen year old granddaughter. Trump. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I has already semi committed to my son law. So
Speaker 1: I don't think that this guy could actually be in
Speaker 1: this thing. But Anthony Thomas Reyis is his name. He's
Speaker 1: twenty three, and he was booked on a number of
Speaker 1: accounts of trespassing. I guess that's all they slapped him with,
Speaker 1: was trespassing. The Palm Beach Police said at twelve oh
Speaker 1: four a m. This is two nights ago. Officers responded
Speaker 1: tomorrow lago, where they met with United States Secret Service
Speaker 1: agents who had detained Rayis. So it's the Secret Service
Speaker 1: guys that had got him. He had jumped over the
Speaker 1: wall to get on the property. I told you the
Speaker 1: other day we could do it. Yeah, I mean if
Speaker 1: this guy, if this guy got on there.
Speaker 2: He looked at a little shit too. He's a little nothing.
Speaker 2: He's a nothing, he's not a big ca.
Speaker 1: I mean, if he got in there, we could get
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get in there, well, Trump told me in my
Speaker 2: dream he doesn't want me there, which.
Speaker 1: Destroyed all the more reason for us to get into it.
Speaker 1: We'll get But so he jumped over the wall to
Speaker 1: get in the property, and while speaking with the officers,
Speaker 1: he admitted to climbing the wall to gain entry so
Speaker 1: he could quote read the Gospel to Potus and Mary.
Speaker 2: Kay, Oh that's good. At least he's the religious in
Speaker 2: some respect. He's not the first time he's done that.
Speaker 2: He's done it before too, by the way.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, now, I don't think reporters, any reporters were
Speaker 1: able to get to Kai to get a response from
Speaker 1: her as to as to whether there was any interest there.
Speaker 1: But I doubt that she's gone.
Speaker 2: To law school. She committed to his school. She's golfing
Speaker 2: right Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, I didn't. I didn't mean that she
Speaker 1: was going to mention she's going somewhere Ivy League.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, on golf scholarship. Right. But but you think.
Speaker 1: See he she and Charlie Woods are together all the
Speaker 1: time because they literally live less than a mile away
Speaker 1: from each other here.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah he He lives on a great, great golf course
Speaker 1: called Kenny's.
Speaker 2: Right of course.
Speaker 1: Old yeah, yeah, and uh and his and uh Kai
Speaker 1: lives over in Admiral's Cove and plays that course, plus
Speaker 1: plays Trump International National. So they have these great they've
Speaker 1: all all these fabulous golf courses around here, and the
Speaker 1: two of them are as good as amateur. Charlie just
Speaker 1: won some big time Old Charlie, how old is he?
Speaker 1: I don't know, likee something they both I think there
Speaker 1: was a year of each other, but that appears to
Speaker 1: be I think that's why Trump gave such approval to
Speaker 1: Tiger and Vanessa. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Kylbe Bryant's Vanessa Vanessa c and somebody I heard she's
Speaker 2: hanging around with an NBA guy. Oh god, I forgot
Speaker 2: his name. But yeah, like not Instagram official as they
Speaker 2: say these days, but it's definitely a thing. And I
Speaker 2: mean she certainly she can certainly have a new man
Speaker 2: iner life. It's been years, but it's odd to see
Speaker 2: her with other than Kobe. You know, it's a weird look,
Speaker 2: but it's gonna look.
Speaker 1: That guy was the biggest stud unplanted ear. I mean,
Speaker 1: he he was just a man, another man. I mean,
Speaker 1: we we played all these tournaments at this facility he
Speaker 1: built h in Ventura County. That was actually was where
Speaker 1: he was on his way to in the helicopter when
Speaker 1: when the helicopter went down. But somebody's got some really
Speaker 1: big shoes to fill there. I don't. I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to be the guy coming in.
Speaker 2: To follow them, follow the black Mamba. Not only that,
Speaker 2: just the way he approached life. If you listened to
Speaker 2: all the things he said, his approach to life in general.
Speaker 2: What a guy, What an amazing guy. You know, I
Speaker 2: wasn't a big la I mean I was here when
Speaker 2: they won with Shaq and it was great and the
Speaker 2: ticket tape parade and all. But I do know the
Speaker 2: other side of of Kobe that was you know Kobe.
Speaker 2: You know there's across from the Grove in West Hollywood
Speaker 2: or on Fairfax, there's a condo unit called the Palazzo Nice.
Speaker 2: Well that's that's where Kobe would keep his girls, uh
Speaker 2: for you know, two three weeks at a time while
Speaker 2: he had some home games. They stayed at the Platzo
Speaker 2: on Kobe's dime, and whenever Kobe wanted to see them,
Speaker 2: he would hold up at the Plazzo. So look, he's
Speaker 2: a man. He could do what he wants him and
Speaker 2: Vanessa were a great couple of beautiful children, but not
Speaker 2: the angel people always say he he was.
Speaker 1: You know, I never heard that. You never told me that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been operating thinking the Calvado incident was the
Speaker 4: no discretion in his in his background, but you know,
Speaker 4: I don't know that.
Speaker 2: Uh you know, not not every man's perfect, but in
Speaker 2: his a professional life and his wisdom that he handed
Speaker 2: down to his children. He was an expert. He was
Speaker 2: just I mean, for anybody to pass away in the NBA,
Speaker 2: for it to be him, oh my god, as.
Speaker 1: He was to his sport and being the best, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know I would. I would hope that would have
Speaker 1: crossed over more into the rest of his life. That's
Speaker 1: I'm surprised to actually hear that. But anyway, this uh
Speaker 1: rayist dude, Let's see.
Speaker 2: Oh god, he's legal, right, they would they would have said,
Speaker 2: if he's illegal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, I think he's I think he's illegal. Dude. Oh,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, he was caught back in Oh this
Speaker 1: isn't that long ago. It's December of twenty four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he so, I mean, he's really trying and been
Speaker 1: trying to get to the Donald to spread.
Speaker 2: The gospel, gospel, very religious guy. Yeah, he's just gonna marry.
Speaker 1: He's still see somebody ought to be This is the
Speaker 1: guy that ought to have the GoFundMe. You know we're
Speaker 1: getting We're constantly getting these guys that are bad guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people are raising them up. This guy's got a fifty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars bond. He's in Pombe County jail. I mean,
Speaker 1: could his could his motives have been more pure? Married?
Speaker 2: Kay?
Speaker 1: And the gospel to.
Speaker 2: A good point. It's a really good big orange man.
Speaker 2: I mean, guy had a good idea. Yeah, yeah, well
Speaker 2: and and look and he waited until she turned eighteen,
Speaker 2: which is decent of him too.
Speaker 1: You know, Trump ought to be putting up the money
Speaker 1: and letting him out and giving him a chance. And
Speaker 1: one meeting with the guy and you know, some advice
Speaker 1: from him. Let him have coffee with Kai and be
Speaker 1: done with it.
Speaker 2: I make it or make him a gardener, put him
Speaker 2: on the grounds at myologue.
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, I'm going to see if anyone
Speaker 1: started a a gofund me for this jo and if not.
Speaker 2: She is pretty hot. I mean, I mean she's young,
Speaker 2: but she's at the looking.
Speaker 1: Girls really pretty, and she's she's really athletic.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, you know, I'll tell you something about Trump.
Speaker 1: Dropped to Kimmy, what's her name, Livy dunk for for her,
Speaker 1: I mean Livy and he's he's not the kay.
Speaker 2: I saw make the want to split the other day
Speaker 2: on some magazines. She's something else. I mean when Kenny
Speaker 2: Kenny didn't know what we were talking about, we were like,
Speaker 2: you don't know, Livy done is? Okay, wait a while,
Speaker 2: she's outstanding. Yeah, beautiful girl. But you know what, what
Speaker 2: I apologized to Trump initially many years ago, was because
Speaker 2: I just become a father, and I used to always
Speaker 2: make fun of him in the paper and say, you
Speaker 2: know what kind of a man always with a supermodel
Speaker 2: or playboy playmate at the nick game, so the giant games,
Speaker 2: bring your kids, bring your son, like, do something with
Speaker 2: your kids. And then I become a dad and I
Speaker 2: see his kids became more out in the open and public,
Speaker 2: and you learn that they're smart kids. They're well mounted,
Speaker 2: the well behaved, they're respectful. And that's what I said
Speaker 2: to I wrote him a long letter saying, you know,
Speaker 2: I got you wrong when I pegged you as a
Speaker 2: guy who wants to take models to games and not
Speaker 2: spend time with your kids. You've obviously raised a great
Speaker 2: brood of kids, so you know, I apologize for this.
Speaker 2: He was cool about it, but you got it. I
Speaker 2: got a good feel for and look at them now.
Speaker 2: They're all smart, responsible, well educated, good people. So he
Speaker 2: did a good job. Well sawted his wives as well.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they had a lot to do with it too,
Speaker 2: and his.
Speaker 1: Kids and his kids raising the grandkids.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that it's good stuff. You know.
Speaker 1: Compare that to the Biden clan and Jesus, it's an
Speaker 1: interesting comp Okay, So good luck, mister Ais. I will
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Speaker 1: Did you see this story about the Gotti family the yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So two brothers in the infamous Gotti mob family are
Speaker 1: accused of beating up a brother in law a day
Speaker 1: after the sleazy relative allegedly burglarized the Mafio so Kins
Speaker 1: queen's home on Sunday. This is, obviously according to the cops.
Speaker 1: John and Frankie Gotti, who are the grandsons of AJ's
Speaker 1: pal John, were hit with third degree attempted assault and
Speaker 1: harassment charges by prosecutors for allegedly slugging accused Robert Gino Gabrielli,
Speaker 1: who is the brother of John's wife eleanor terrible Gino
Speaker 1: quote got what was coming to him. A lawyer for
Speaker 1: Frankie told the Post, I love the lawyers they have.
Speaker 2: In the Bruce Bruce Carler was the same way. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just love being around those guys. Bruce Cauler. When I
Speaker 2: went to a restaurant during the trial in ninety one
Speaker 2: or so. Uh jam Bones downtown in New York City. Uh.
Speaker 2: I was at the next table and people got their
Speaker 2: plates and Bruce got his plate, but he wouldn't eat
Speaker 2: until John got he got his plate of food. He
Speaker 2: made sure no one until John gets his plate, like
Speaker 2: the way they treated him. And this guy saying, you
Speaker 2: know he got what, you know, he got what was
Speaker 2: coming to him. Like these lawyers become gangsters that they correct.
Speaker 1: How many lawyers are Like what's his name? The borders
Speaker 1: are He's the same home, he's the same exact way.
Speaker 1: That guy reminds me so much of a lawyer for
Speaker 1: the Godi I mean he could be a lawyer for
Speaker 1: the Gotti family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, this guy's good. Look and look they
Speaker 2: got him on video climate for the window robbing him
Speaker 2: of three thousand dollars I think, some earrings and ships.
Speaker 2: So they went and talked to him and then one
Speaker 2: of the quotes from the Gotti boys was, hey, you
Speaker 2: should have cut his hands up.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a Gerard Moroni explained, Yes, he should have
Speaker 1: kept his hands up.
Speaker 2: I love that kind of justice. That's good justice. You
Speaker 2: just you know, love cops are involved, just get it. Done.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Now they're in trouble, but they'll be all right.
Speaker 1: He allegedly stole three thousand dollars, a pair of his
Speaker 1: sister's ear rings, a watch, a wallet, and a belt.
Speaker 2: You know what does a death list like that feel like?
Speaker 2: You can't take anything from the Gotti family.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna steal from the Godies, you
Speaker 1: got to go really big, because you've got to be
Speaker 1: able to go somewhere and hide for the rest of
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't go for to do that.
Speaker 1: With three thousand dollars. In some years, and this.
Speaker 2: Is their in laws. They have to see this kid.
Speaker 2: It's never going to be the same. But you know,
Speaker 2: these kids grew up on TV with Victoria Gotti, who
Speaker 2: I was good friends with in New York for a while.
Speaker 2: That show made me crazy because the way she raised
Speaker 2: those boys, remember growing up gotty, the three of them
Speaker 2: with the hair jeled, you know, and and William Morris.
Speaker 2: At one point got rid of me because in my
Speaker 2: book I talked about working for John in early eighties
Speaker 2: eighty five or so, and I had some fistfights in
Speaker 2: California and they were like very you know, ajay, we
Speaker 2: didn't like what you wrote about working for John Gotti
Speaker 2: is that that was so long ago. Who cares now?
Speaker 2: It scares us? And then they ended up representing Victoria
Speaker 2: Gotti and her three sons on that show. So let's
Speaker 2: talk about irony with crazy.
Speaker 1: When police reached the scene after getting a nine one
Speaker 1: one call, cops saw the siblings punching Gabrielle in the face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably what they would have drove up to. All right,
Speaker 1: So how do you think this would go over? What
Speaker 1: if one of these gotty kids or grandkids wanted a
Speaker 1: trans you know it just what I mean? What if
Speaker 1: what if one of those kids is you know, it
Speaker 1: wasn't he just didn't feel right in his skin or
Speaker 1: her skin. And and and what happens in a fam
Speaker 1: in the Gaudy family, if somebody wants to transition.
Speaker 2: It would never be allowed. It would be disallowed. That
Speaker 2: would not You cannot even bring that up. You live
Speaker 2: as you live. You don't become a different gender. John
Speaker 2: and his daughter, and Victoria's tough stuff too. And his son,
Speaker 2: John Julian is a tough guy. You can't do that
Speaker 2: in a family like that. That's why half the stuff
Speaker 2: in Hollywood's horse shit. Another one came out today. Uh
Speaker 2: the singer and his wife, the pretty you know what's
Speaker 2: the name of the actor and the country sick Fa
Speaker 2: Faith Hill and McGrath. They've got a daughter who's posting
Speaker 2: be gay as you want. I'm bisexual. She's out now
Speaker 2: at least she's not trans. Yeah, it's it's pride month man.
Speaker 2: Everybody's doing it. But the Goutty family would never get
Speaker 2: away with that. The sin for them.
Speaker 1: Tim Tim McGraw always plays tough guys in the movies
Speaker 1: when he's in the movies.
Speaker 2: Tough cowboy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I hadn't seen I hadn't seen that, But
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it's one thing if
Speaker 1: your faith healing and Tim McGraw's kid, although I forget
Speaker 1: that Tim is Tug McGraw's kid.
Speaker 2: That's right, I forgot about.
Speaker 1: I gotta believe and Tug never would you know tubs
Speaker 1: to do the slap his flow off of his Uh.
Speaker 2: What a great name. I've thought of him so long,
Speaker 2: great great.
Speaker 1: Sixty nine mets bab.
Speaker 2: You gotta believe.
Speaker 1: So I want to talk about this Chinese bio weapons story.
Speaker 2: You you tell me you introduce me to this. I
Speaker 2: mean that there's a lot of ship they have over
Speaker 2: what do you what do you got now?
Speaker 1: No? No? No, okay, So you haven't heard this one.
Speaker 1: So a Chinese researcher is accused of plotting with her
Speaker 1: boy friend to smuggle a weapon of what they referred
Speaker 1: to as agro terrorism into the United States, and they
Speaker 1: may have successfully hidden pathogens in her shoe on a
Speaker 1: previous trip. They don't know yet. Jesus, so these are
Speaker 1: a University of Michigan post doctoral fellow. Young Quinn Jean,
Speaker 1: aged thirty three, has been charged alongside Zunyoglu, thirty four,
Speaker 1: for the sinister plot allegedly tied to the Chinese Communist Party,
Speaker 1: who arrived in the United States from China in July
Speaker 1: of twenty four carrying four small baggies of okay, good
Speaker 1: luck with this one. Qusarium Gramma neerum, a product responsible
Speaker 1: for causing billions of dollars worth of damage to livestock, wheat, barley, maize,
Speaker 1: and rice globally each year. Cash Betel, the FBI boss,
Speaker 1: issued a chilling warning after the first pictures emerged on
Speaker 1: Tuesday evening. This case is a sobering reminder that the
Speaker 1: sea working around the clock to deploy operatives and researchers
Speaker 1: to infiltrate American institutions and target our food supply. He said, Wow,
Speaker 1: if successful, this plot would have had grave consequences and
Speaker 1: put in American lives and our economy at serious risk.
Speaker 1: The duo have been charged with conspiracy, smuggling, making false statements,
Speaker 1: and visa fraud. In a horrifying twist, the criminal complaint
Speaker 1: reveals that John may have been successful in smuggling pathogens
Speaker 1: into the United States years earlier.
Speaker 2: Man, that's my biggest fear is what they can do
Speaker 2: with pathogens. We said that during COVID. What's the how
Speaker 2: I mean, how easy would it be to have someone
Speaker 2: you could spray in a subway car in New York
Speaker 2: City or at an airport in any country and just
Speaker 2: wait for the damage to happen. It's very scary, and
Speaker 2: I know it's going to happen. Again. They're more or
Speaker 2: less predicting it, guys as well.
Speaker 1: The numbers are it almost has to I mean, to
Speaker 1: execute one hundred percent and catch one hundred percent of
Speaker 1: these of these plans in process. Yeh. Look, people don't
Speaker 1: like to talk about it. But if you, I mean,
Speaker 1: let's face it, that is well, Russia's still out there.
Speaker 1: This is our the United States global rival, right yeah, sure. Uh,
Speaker 1: and this is a it's a communist state. These people
Speaker 1: when they leave the country, whether they're a student in
Speaker 1: the Ivy League or they came through the southern border. Uh,
Speaker 1: they are working for the Chinese Communist Party, who we
Speaker 1: have allowed to buy land all over the.
Speaker 2: Country, farm land, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Near our military basis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they always did. It's perfect as that coincidence. I've
Speaker 2: seen that graph. It's horrible. They're right there.
Speaker 1: Think about what the Ukrainians did to the Russians last week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was something else.
Speaker 5: Man, Wow, how hard I know when you got we
Speaker 5: have almost two one hundred thousand illegal Chinese immigrants in
Speaker 5: this country that we don't we don't know where.
Speaker 2: They are, no, I know, we don't.
Speaker 1: Know whether Biden let them in. We have no idea
Speaker 1: where the fuck they are. And eleven So think about that.
Speaker 2: No, it's fine, you know what about that?
Speaker 6: Will there be a grip Forget the fentanyl deaths are horrible,
Speaker 6: and that's certainly one aspect of this, But to think
Speaker 6: about all for the sake of winning future elections.
Speaker 1: That's all this was about, right, This is all just
Speaker 1: simply a strategy to guarantee the winning of future elections.
Speaker 1: For that potential gain. Let's let a couple hundred thousand
Speaker 1: spies working for the Chinese government into our country and
Speaker 1: you know what's sell them some land id the hell,
Speaker 1: the more the merrier. Let's let's sell some uh. I mean,
Speaker 1: who the hell those were?
Speaker 2: We we we were weren't for weren't for another nine
Speaker 2: to eleven. I mean, if we saw what a few
Speaker 2: pilots could do with two airplanes, three airplanes and maybe more,
Speaker 2: and who knows if that whole story with nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so many conspiracies, but either way, they
Speaker 2: flew those planes into those buildings. That's just a handful
Speaker 2: of guys. Now, you got two hundred thousand people, Chinese
Speaker 2: nationals in here, some of whom were banging Eric Swollwall. Okay,
Speaker 2: they're they're they're everywhere, and they're plotting to do something.
Speaker 2: And I think COVID was the first step. There was
Speaker 2: no accident. In my mind, I was out there with
Speaker 2: many people saying Chinese did this to us. I remember
Speaker 2: the reporters going, why are you calling it the Chinese vice?
Speaker 2: It's racist, No, it comes from China. It's China. Trump
Speaker 2: said it from day one that they're there are the enemy.
Speaker 2: Putin's nuts. But I don't see Putin pulling a trigger
Speaker 2: on us. But the Chinese, Oh, they're doing it. Death
Speaker 2: by a thousand cuts. It's coming well.
Speaker 1: And speaking of uh, speaking of Putin, I mean, who
Speaker 1: the heck knows what's going to go on? Uh there now,
Speaker 1: I mean the prospects of that war ending anytime soon.
Speaker 2: Now the BDE they blow the bridge up. I mean
Speaker 2: what Arena said yesterday on relationships to when you hear
Speaker 2: said it from somebody who grew up there in Ukraine
Speaker 2: and knew and you know, listening to listening and seeing
Speaker 2: Putin on a daily basis, like we see Trump or
Speaker 2: Biden and you hear what she went through. It's it's
Speaker 2: so sobery. How what a madman he is? And Trump Trump? Uh, look,
Speaker 2: I thought Trump could solve this ship too, but he's
Speaker 2: getting very upset that he can't get a handle on
Speaker 2: this thing. It makes him look bad. It makes Trump
Speaker 2: look bad. He doesn't like that at all.
Speaker 1: Well, look, there's there's a couple of things going on
Speaker 1: right now that aren't such a good look for Trump.
Speaker 1: I mean this this, uh where where Elon's head is now?
Speaker 2: I told you, I told you that was a real
Speaker 2: I told you those two guys are not going to
Speaker 2: get along for long. They're just two hard headed narcissists
Speaker 2: as brilliant as Elons. Listen, there's just not enough room
Speaker 2: for those two guys. They'll shade it and say it
Speaker 2: was no, he's great, he can come back whenever he wants.
Speaker 2: That relationship is badly damaged.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, probably, But to me, it's it's more just
Speaker 1: sad that. I mean, this was probably our one shot
Speaker 1: to really do something about Washington, to really break through
Speaker 1: and do something to protect our children and our kids'
Speaker 1: futures in this in this country. And you know, uh,
Speaker 1: this bill is a long way from doing any of that.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stuff in there.
Speaker 1: Just once again, and you know, while the taco thing
Speaker 1: is stupid, the and look, it's easy to say and
Speaker 1: play armchair quarterback, but if you know, we we have
Speaker 1: we have Trump there in the White House, we have
Speaker 1: the Senate, we have the Supreme Court, we have the
Speaker 1: House of Representatives. When when are those things ever going
Speaker 1: to align again? And if if he would have just
Speaker 1: stayed away from the tariff shit, Ok, stay away from that.
Speaker 1: The first if, the first move of this administration was
Speaker 1: to attack the deficit in a big way by doing
Speaker 1: a zero based budget and cutting trillions of dollars of
Speaker 1: federal spend. Painful spending, not from a how government operates standpoint,
Speaker 1: but painful from a you know, the human casualties, the
Speaker 1: number of people that you're going to have to let go,
Speaker 1: and the families affected. But all of those people were
Speaker 1: part of the grift. You know, they've all been part
Speaker 1: of the grift for years, and so you know, how
Speaker 1: bad can you? What I don't understand is these the
Speaker 1: politicians that you know, it's all about protecting your seat, right,
Speaker 1: protecting the gig, and you know you have to vote
Speaker 1: in such a way that you can protect the gig
Speaker 1: and so never do anything to offend your constituents. And
Speaker 1: if you're if you're going to take on and issue
Speaker 1: as third rail as social security, you know you put
Speaker 1: all that at risk. But the other hand is you
Speaker 1: look at social Security and you go, it's bankrupt. Basically
Speaker 1: now it's bankrupt in in a short number of years
Speaker 1: for sure, and then they're going to be forced to
Speaker 1: address it at a at a time that it will
Speaker 1: be much more inconvenient than now to address. But but
Speaker 1: they don't tackle the heart issues because the heart issues
Speaker 1: risk the gig, and no one's willing to risk the gig.
Speaker 1: And this is the one guy and that that we
Speaker 1: all thought, you know, come in in this position with
Speaker 1: Congress behind him, with the with the Supreme Court behind him,
Speaker 1: who would maybe take it on. But see, this is
Speaker 1: where I get lobsided on the Trump stuff because Trump
Speaker 1: doesn't And there's a lot of things I love about Trump,
Speaker 1: and I admire Trump's courage, but Trump doesn't have an ideology.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a slate of beliefs that he has
Speaker 1: deep conviction behind. From a political standpoint, he he operates
Speaker 1: the country like he would operate a business, and so
Speaker 1: decisions are made for financial reasons and or you know,
Speaker 1: the expediency of some thing important to him and and
Speaker 1: and the party and getting votes, et cetera. It's not
Speaker 1: He's the one guy who I think was in a
Speaker 1: position to absorb some pain, do the difficult thing, sacrifice
Speaker 1: some things for today, for the long term health of
Speaker 1: the country. And I think we're watching the window close
Speaker 1: where that could have happened. And that's the frustration that
Speaker 1: you're seeing with Musk. His musk. Musk was naive enough
Speaker 1: to think that Trump was serious about doing this.
Speaker 2: I think he was serious about a lot of that
Speaker 2: about No, I don't think he's well. Look, I mean
Speaker 2: it's all we're only We're not even six months in.
Speaker 2: He's got plenty of time to back up what he said.
Speaker 2: Obviously the window could close, but having both houses, I
Speaker 2: get that. But I still think he will do things
Speaker 2: for the benefit of the country. He always has said,
Speaker 2: I'm doing this for you. They're coming after me, but
Speaker 2: they want you. Like he's all as presented himself as
Speaker 2: our bodyguard who's going to take the hits, And like
Speaker 2: I said, he's got a lot more time to get
Speaker 2: things done. I'm actually shocked that very pissed off about
Speaker 2: how many people are protecting these illegals and going to
Speaker 2: jail over it and have these appeal judges across the
Speaker 2: country can just overturn. It makes me sick how our
Speaker 2: president can say we're getting rid of illegals and then
Speaker 2: all the judges around the country can stop it and
Speaker 2: put a hold to it. And you've got representatives and
Speaker 2: hearted them in their offices. This is like and I
Speaker 2: don't see America beating like this in my whole life.
Speaker 2: How do you turn against something as simple as get
Speaker 2: the illegals out? Trump? They're doing their best in terms
Speaker 2: of that. He shut the ball. He's got a lot
Speaker 2: of people out there trying to get rid of these
Speaker 2: fleas that we hung on to our ass for years.
Speaker 2: So I give them credit for that. The tariff thing.
Speaker 2: I'm not as smart when it comes to business like that.
Speaker 2: You're definitely way ahead of me on that stuff. It
Speaker 2: seemed like a decent idea when you talked about how
Speaker 2: ripped off we were getting for all these years. But
Speaker 2: of course he went too strong like Trump often does,
Speaker 2: and he made a racket out of it. Trump's to
Speaker 2: kind of go knocks over chairs and tables when it
Speaker 2: comes to your house, makes a racket. So I'm still
Speaker 2: not gonna I'm not giving up hope or abandoning him
Speaker 2: one percent. But there have been some things that I
Speaker 2: wish he'd done a little differently. I'll address that on
Speaker 2: the weekend show. But Alon Musk I knew was never
Speaker 2: going to stay side by side with Trump for long.
Speaker 2: They'll patch it up here and there, but it will
Speaker 2: never be the same.
Speaker 1: Well, but understand the reason why. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: think Musk is saying this out loud, or at least
Speaker 1: directly saying this out loud. But the fortune he's lost, don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think he gives a shit about. I think
Speaker 1: what he's deeply, deeply upset about is the fight for
Speaker 1: the future of America that he came in to. Five.
Speaker 1: He was ready and expecting Trump to stand beside him
Speaker 1: and taking on the deep state. And uh and the trillion,
Speaker 1: the trillion dollar number that you know that Trump is
Speaker 1: now supposedly pissed about. You know, was that number bullshit?
Speaker 1: He was quoted in the Wall Street Journal as saying,
Speaker 1: was that number bullshit? No, Trump, you know, the number
Speaker 1: wasn't bullshit. What was bullshit was that the guy was
Speaker 1: going to have the support that he needed to go
Speaker 1: out and get that number. And now maybe everybody was
Speaker 1: just naive to how far the Dems would go to
Speaker 1: make it difficult on un Musk. I don't know that
Speaker 1: anybody saw it. Tesla dealerships burning and all the kind
Speaker 1: of crazy ship that went on. But it's uh demoralizing
Speaker 1: scene where it is.
Speaker 2: And not on top of that, you know, because I
Speaker 2: mean Elon Musk buying Twitter was a super duper reason
Speaker 2: why Trump won as well.
Speaker 1: It won Trump dealer.
Speaker 2: Okay, so now you've got a guy like him, and
Speaker 2: god forbid, Twitter turns into a place for the left
Speaker 2: to slam Trump. I mean, if Elon opens the door
Speaker 2: like that, oh my goodness, then you're talking about a
Speaker 2: whole different war. I'm not unders I mean the fact
Speaker 2: that Twitter, because Elon bought it, has largely been more
Speaker 2: of a void, more of a place for the right
Speaker 2: to speak their mind.
Speaker 1: See, I just think it became a free speech platform.
Speaker 1: And because it became a free speech platform, there were
Speaker 1: so many conservatives looking for a place where you you
Speaker 1: don't get canceled from speaking your mind. That it that
Speaker 1: the content flow through. There is now more to the
Speaker 1: right than that's lac but there's still plenty. It lives
Speaker 1: in lots of liberal content.
Speaker 2: Because it's more fair.
Speaker 1: It is just a free speech platform.
Speaker 2: It should be. It should be that way. But it's
Speaker 2: a tough enemy to have, you know, if it comes
Speaker 2: to that, he can be disappointed in Trump. I understand that,
Speaker 2: but look, I'll also say this, you can't. You can't
Speaker 2: tell me as much as I admire Ela Musk, that
Speaker 2: we know he takes different sorts of drugs for different
Speaker 2: sorts of I don't want to say illnesses, but he's
Speaker 2: got a bunch of stuff he suffers through, not suffers.
Speaker 2: Lives with kettymine is part of his treatment system. He
Speaker 2: likes to smoke weed, which who cares about weed? But
Speaker 2: I don't know how deep this guy goes And before
Speaker 2: he was banging Amber heard hanging out the Hollywood parties.
Speaker 2: I don't know how deep he goes into drugs. But
Speaker 2: I've seen him look a certain way in the White House,
Speaker 2: looking very different than he used to look months ago,
Speaker 2: draw moving a lot, always fidgety. He just seemed a
Speaker 2: little more druggy. To be quite honest, He's always he's
Speaker 2: always awkward, but now it looks druggy on top of that,
Speaker 2: and making statements like that publicly is usually a tell.
Speaker 2: Trump's the only guy who's not on drugs who makes bold,
Speaker 2: crazy statements. Most people who do tend to regret it
Speaker 2: because they were high or a little bit feeling out
Speaker 2: of their element for a bit.
Speaker 1: So you talk about the statement where he said it
Speaker 1: would be it'll be easier to colonize Mars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that kind of I mean, that's that
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 1: Ship might be right, who March guy is brutally honest.
Speaker 1: I think that answer was, it's an honest assessment of it.
Speaker 2: Like a little baby, not baby, you know, babies, little
Speaker 2: children say anything to pill Like I remember when my
Speaker 2: Trophen's son was three four, a black guy was serving
Speaker 2: us and he said, you know, you look like chocolate
Speaker 2: like kids like Elon must has that childlike kind of
Speaker 2: autism spectrum thing where he'll just say anything. Tourette's. Trump's
Speaker 2: that way too, but uh, Trump's not suffering for anything
Speaker 2: except just being Trump. But Elon can say things I
Speaker 2: think that sometimes are a little bit more fueled because
Speaker 2: of the drug he's on at that particular time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that, maybe I guess, But.
Speaker 2: He talks about Kennedy and he's taking kennymy He makes
Speaker 2: no bones about that.
Speaker 1: That's it to me. It's just it's just sad, that's
Speaker 1: all it's. It's this was a golden opportunity to to
Speaker 1: do some things that I don't.
Speaker 2: Actually lost, not lost yet, not lost, third down, third down.
Speaker 1: He's out, there was no one hundred and thirty one
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight. Thing is complete bullshit. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean that he could have stayed in if there was
Speaker 1: something to stay in for us, because he realized that
Speaker 1: he couldn't complete the mission. Because Trump's heart wasn't in
Speaker 1: completing the mission. The party's heart wasn't in completing the mission.
Speaker 1: This bill proves they're not into completing the mission.
Speaker 2: I don't think Trump wanted to do much defense cutting,
Speaker 2: and I think must probably. I thought that was a
Speaker 2: good place to go, and that's like the one area
Speaker 2: Trump doesn't want to hear. He loves on military. I
Speaker 2: don't think he wants to make cuts there. That could
Speaker 2: have been part of their squabble. But you know, like
Speaker 2: I said, Trump tried to do a lot immediately, and
Speaker 2: he did a lot immediately. And now we're kind of
Speaker 2: tripping over our pants here because too many things happened
Speaker 2: at a certain time. And I agree with you. We
Speaker 2: need allow Musk, we need him. He's a great ally
Speaker 2: and a great person to have alongside you. So that's
Speaker 2: got to be repaired in some capacity.
Speaker 1: Uh, well, I hope that can. I hope that can happen.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it just feels like it's one of those
Speaker 1: things that you know is bigger then everybody's playing it out.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a breakup. It's a breakup, for sure.
Speaker 2: It's a breakup.
Speaker 1: It's a deep you know, it's it's a deep you
Speaker 1: don't come out. I mean, they had that press conference
Speaker 1: that was to be uh ra ra and make the
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty day thing look like it was
Speaker 1: just a natural evolution. He's always going to be around,
Speaker 1: and here's this golden whatever the hell they gave him
Speaker 1: Keia No, no, I know it was dressing and then
Speaker 1: and then he's one on one with a reporter and
Speaker 1: you see how.
Speaker 2: He looks disappointed. He just looks very disappointed and frustrated.
Speaker 2: So hopefully we'll get to the I know, I know.
Speaker 1: And what the guy's saying, you know, I'm not getting
Speaker 1: get involved and give money to any presential campaigns moving forward. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you know I know where you know where the where
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, okay, neighbor, this morning, Valentine's Time, Valentine's Week,
Speaker 2: whatever it was February. I hung up, like five hearts
Speaker 2: across the doorway, little thing that you had in a
Speaker 2: box somewhere, just Valentine's Day. And then I was gone
Speaker 2: to Illinois for three months, in Vegas for ten days.
Speaker 2: I'm finally back tending to my garden out front, my
Speaker 2: potted plants, and this neighbor comes up to me and says, hey,
Speaker 2: you know about just making small talk, and she's she's out.
Speaker 2: What do you think about those hearts over my door?
Speaker 2: I go, oh, I go, yeah, they've been up a while.
Speaker 2: You're right, so yeah, it's you know, maybe it's time
Speaker 2: for the hearts to come down. First of all, I
Speaker 2: would never say that to a neighbor. Take something down.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a political statement. It's a fucking heart. I go, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right, it's been a long time. And then she
Speaker 2: was maybe something else, like maybe like she points to
Speaker 2: somebody who's lights in their windows. Oh, yeah, that's cute.
Speaker 2: She was like, maybe a pride flag and I go, no, no,
Speaker 2: not doing that. She picked the wrong guy. I go, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. Well, why, I said, why do
Speaker 2: I have to cheerlead for them? I'm proud, I'm proud
Speaker 2: of myself, good for them. They want to have their lives. Fine,
Speaker 2: but I got to put up their flag. No, because
Speaker 2: right in my potet plant is my Italian flag. She
Speaker 2: must not like that either. That's not coming down. But yeah,
Speaker 2: she suggested a Pride flag. Hmm, you no, not in
Speaker 2: my house.
Speaker 1: Maybe you should suggest an American flag for her house. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe just go over and put just plant plant one
Speaker 1: in there, plant the stars and stripes right in her
Speaker 1: garden there or whatever.
Speaker 2: If you live in you live in Florida, people put
Speaker 2: the Midwest. There's American flags everywhere. You don't find them
Speaker 2: too many places in Los Angeles. Not really, dude.
Speaker 1: I've got a huge one right out on my front
Speaker 1: step front studient. And but as I look around, I'm
Speaker 1: looking out in the front of my house and I
Speaker 1: can see good for you, I can see four American
Speaker 1: flags of neighbors from just where I'm sitting right now.
Speaker 2: So Kenny should get a flag pole. He should raise
Speaker 2: a flag every morning. Actually, I have a cup of
Speaker 2: coffee raising the flag and taking it down. It's a pole.
Speaker 2: I should look into.
Speaker 1: That arena climbing the flag pole every morning, and then
Speaker 1: she can she can? You could do that, you know, Uh,
Speaker 1: somebody said to me the other day, you promised you
Speaker 1: were going to do another prank story. When are you
Speaker 1: gonna when you're gonna do another another prank story about
Speaker 1: my old boss, Bob McCurdy, And uh, today's a good
Speaker 1: day to do a prank.
Speaker 2: I love these, Let me hear one, because you do elaborate.
Speaker 2: You get elaborate like George Cloudy and Jimmy Kimmel. They
Speaker 2: go like it takes a long time for the joke
Speaker 2: to hit.
Speaker 1: This was perhaps my most elaborate rank of all time
Speaker 1: on Bob good. So. Back in the mid nineties, Bob
Speaker 1: was president of this company called Cats Radio, and I
Speaker 1: was the general sales Manager, which is his number two right,
Speaker 1: So as GSM, I was responsible for the sales results
Speaker 1: of the company, including you know, all the recruiting and
Speaker 1: retention of salespeople. So I'd be interviewing potential salespeople all
Speaker 1: the time, and Bob was insistent that anyone we interviewed
Speaker 1: and that I liked, take this thing fill out this
Speaker 1: thing called an Omnia personality profile. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if that company is still in business, they probably are,
Speaker 1: but it was Omnia om and Ia and this Omnia
Speaker 1: test was you know. It attempted to match your personality,
Speaker 1: your personal characteristics across a number of skills and traits
Speaker 1: and match them to a profile that Bob had built
Speaker 1: of like the ideal salesperson. So your match against what
Speaker 1: Bob perceived to be, you know, the ultimate the ultimate salesperson.
Speaker 1: So and Bob laid it down the rule down with
Speaker 1: me that you know, he wanted to see and have
Speaker 1: final approval on anyone that I wanted to hire, and
Speaker 1: everyone must take one of these OMNIA tests before I
Speaker 1: could hire them. And if they don't score well on
Speaker 1: the OMNIA, Bob laid it down that we're not hiring
Speaker 1: if they're not a match. I don't care. Mike, if
Speaker 1: you if you like him, if they can't do well
Speaker 1: on the OMNIA, then you're you know you you can't hire.
Speaker 1: So this OMNIA thing scored you on a it was
Speaker 1: went by a tenth of a point from zero to
Speaker 1: ten point zero, right, So if you can score anywhere
Speaker 1: in there, but if you scored less than seven point five,
Speaker 1: Bob didn't want you. That I didn't have approval to
Speaker 1: bring you into the company if you scream below a
Speaker 1: seven point five, right, So over time I had to
Speaker 1: pass on a number of people that I really loved.
Speaker 1: They interviewed well. I knew their I knew their backgrounds.
Speaker 1: I talked to prior employers. We competed against the person,
Speaker 1: so I knew other people that they call on at
Speaker 1: ad agencies and what those people thought of them.
Speaker 2: But did they did they know they were taking an
Speaker 2: OMNIA test as well? They had they did they have
Speaker 2: to take the test, but they knew that was did
Speaker 2: they know the extent of it like that it's.
Speaker 1: Something they didn't know that they had to get a
Speaker 1: seven point five? They knew they had to they had
Speaker 1: to take that. Okay, the omnia things. So after one
Speaker 1: particularly heated argument on the topic, Bob says to me,
Speaker 1: I'm going to prove to you I can do my
Speaker 1: acurdy voice. I proved to you how accurate these things are.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take one myself someday. So after years
Speaker 1: of working side by Ziewa, Bob I knew that if
Speaker 1: he was making the threat, it wasn't an idle threat.
Speaker 1: I knew he was serious and he was gonna he
Speaker 1: was going to fill one out because this was I mean, plus,
Speaker 1: I was embarrassed. I had multiple people that that you know,
Speaker 1: through the process. They know they're close, they know that
Speaker 1: I want to offer them the gig. This is a
Speaker 1: formality you know, before that, and then they get a
Speaker 1: five point eight or a six point four or whatever. Right. So,
Speaker 1: uh so Bob makes this threat that he's going to
Speaker 1: take one, and so I know he's going to take Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so I go to Danielle, his his assistant who
Speaker 1: he had for many, many years. I go to Danny
Speaker 1: and I say, Okay, Bob is going to fill out
Speaker 1: and I and when he when he fills it out,
Speaker 1: you need to tell me that he's that he's filled
Speaker 1: it out so I can flag it. Because what happens
Speaker 1: is we would the candidate would take the OMNIA, and
Speaker 1: then our head of research, this guy Jerry Bain, who
Speaker 1: was a partner with me and many of these gags,
Speaker 1: would get that profile and have a process by OMNIA
Speaker 1: and get it back. So we had to funnel it
Speaker 1: everything through through Jerry. So I tell Danielle, you got
Speaker 1: to flag me if he fills one out. Sure enough,
Speaker 1: like three days later, she comes down to my office
Speaker 1: and she says, Bob filled out an OMNIA. But the
Speaker 1: thing is he didn't want to put his name on it,
Speaker 1: so he filled it out under the name Steve Morris,
Speaker 1: and Steve Morris at the time was the CEO of Arbitron,
Speaker 1: which was the company the rating service like Wilson that
Speaker 1: rated all all of radio. So so I pick up
Speaker 1: the phone. I call that guy, Jerry Jerry Bain, and
Speaker 1: I said, Bomber, do you have a You have an
Speaker 1: omnia up there for Steven Morris. He goes, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just got out a little while ago. I go, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not Stephen Morris. He goes no, I go no,
Speaker 1: that's Robert Walldo McCurdy. He goes, oh my god. I
Speaker 1: go okay, I go hold on to it and I'll
Speaker 1: be up in a little bit and we'll figure out
Speaker 1: what the heck we're so, you know, and you know,
Speaker 1: to pull off these kind of intricate pranks that we
Speaker 1: used to pull in this, I mean, you've got to
Speaker 1: have trustworthy accomplices, right. So Danielle was always up for
Speaker 1: screwing with Bob and never bailed on me ever, never
Speaker 1: gave me up. And Jerry Baim, who ran research, was
Speaker 1: was perfect as the other accomplice. He was a really
Speaker 1: serious guy that people would wouldn't think, wouldn't suspect would
Speaker 1: get involved in you know, my kind of craft. And
Speaker 1: and so I had had great accomplices in uh in
Speaker 1: the in the two of them. So so so anyway,
Speaker 1: Bame and I get together and we come up up
Speaker 1: with this elaborate scheme. So the omnia was basically you'd
Speaker 1: get a one sheet back that would that would have
Speaker 1: half the page would be text, and the top would
Speaker 1: be a bar graph where you'd have each of the
Speaker 1: traits that Bob identified, and you'd have a score against
Speaker 1: those traits, and then you'd have one composite score at
Speaker 1: the end. In all of the time that we have
Speaker 1: been doing omnias, like the worst score I ever saw
Speaker 1: was like a five point two or something like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: so Bame and I doctor up one of these things,
Speaker 1: and Bob's score is a two point two point seven
Speaker 1: that we get right. So and if you if you knew,
Speaker 1: Bob was former led the nation and scoring in basketball
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five for University of Richmond. He was a big,
Speaker 1: big college athlete. And Bob read, you know, all these
Speaker 1: books by these former athletes, and I told the pat
Speaker 1: Riley story before John Wooden and everything like that, and
Speaker 1: so he would constantly use quotes from sports figures and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and so part of the burbage said,
Speaker 1: this individual individual shows the traits of many former athletes.
Speaker 1: Lacking any any original ideas of his own, he often
Speaker 1: defaults to the thoughts and teachings of others. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: the text was, the text was perfect, the top bar
Speaker 1: graph and the composite was worse than it was half
Speaker 1: of the worst that we had ever seen up to
Speaker 1: the play, right, So so it's beautiful. Now we've got it.
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to think, all right, what what's the
Speaker 1: best way to manage, you know, really nailing him with
Speaker 1: this thing. And and Steward's was the CEO of the
Speaker 1: company and a great guy, and Stull loved me and
Speaker 1: and so I could rely on stew It's certain times
Speaker 1: to especially if I'm involved McCurdy to go along with
Speaker 1: the joke. So I poke my head in Stew's office
Speaker 1: and I'm like, got a minute for McCurdy gag And
Speaker 1: he's like, okay, money. So I tell him what's up
Speaker 1: and what we've done with the omnia and everything, and
Speaker 1: he goes, oh, I got a great idea. He goes,
Speaker 1: we got that that exact meeting, and we would each Tuesday,
Speaker 1: we would meet over lunch all the people in my
Speaker 1: position and uh and the role right above us. Division
Speaker 1: presidents would get into the big conference room and and
Speaker 1: meet on a number of topics. So Stu doesn't tell
Speaker 1: me what he's going to do. He just says, don't
Speaker 1: do anything else. I got it, Tuesday's exec meeting, okay.
Speaker 1: And and so I'm I'm wondering, what the hell is
Speaker 1: he going to do. But I kind of have an
Speaker 1: idea what he's that. It's got to be one of
Speaker 1: a couple of things I'm thinking he's going to do.
Speaker 1: And so, you know, we get through the meeting a
Speaker 1: bunch of topics. There's like five minutes left in the
Speaker 1: in the hour, and and Stu goes, you know, one
Speaker 1: thing I want to bring up with you guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: we are the number one company in this industry. We
Speaker 1: have gotten there by consistently hiring better people than anybody
Speaker 1: else hires, committing more resources into the training of those people,
Speaker 1: and you know, living their sales lives with them every
Speaker 1: day as managers and really parenting the process. And you know,
Speaker 1: garbage in, garbage out. And if we if we don't
Speaker 1: do a great job recruiting. We can't protect our position
Speaker 1: in the industry. And and and beyond that, omnia profiles
Speaker 1: are expensive things to process. Each time we process one
Speaker 1: of these things, it costs us whatever, six hundred bops
Speaker 1: whatever that it cost. And and so then he's starts
Speaker 1: handing out across the table this thing that is, this
Speaker 1: has it's the Steve Morris, the one she does, she
Speaker 1: does Steve Harris. Now I know I can't look at
Speaker 1: mc curdy because if I do, I'm gonna fucking crack up.
Speaker 1: And we always sit next to each other in these meetings,
Speaker 1: and so I would really have to I have to
Speaker 1: really do like a full turn to get a glimpse
Speaker 1: of his face. But I can, but I can feel
Speaker 1: him because he's right, he's right nice. So so uh,
Speaker 1: STU says, Look, I don't want to name names, and
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna say anything. But whoever, how how however,
Speaker 1: we let this man get to the point where we
Speaker 1: thought it was worth investing six hundred dollars and finding
Speaker 1: out if if he could be a member of this company.
Speaker 1: This idiot could never work for this company. And you
Speaker 1: guys have got to step up what you do in
Speaker 1: your in your interview process to make sure that you're
Speaker 1: bringing the right people through the door. And Steve is
Speaker 1: perfect and beautiful delivery. Everybody's sort of like as we're
Speaker 1: walking out, because this was the last thing in the meeting,
Speaker 1: kind of whispering to each other. And I know, I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta keep distance from Bob because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: like spit gumb out, and so I let it go.
Speaker 1: And uh and I wait till the wait till the
Speaker 1: end of the afternoon, and I I walk into Bob's
Speaker 1: office and we're talking about a number of things and uh,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, by the way, did you interview
Speaker 1: that Steve Marriscott.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: He looks at me and he goes, that's Steve Marris guy.
Speaker 1: He's me. Just I fell on the ground left. I mean,
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't torture any I just fell right
Speaker 1: to ground.
Speaker 2: Bob, that is so good. That's so good. At least
Speaker 2: he coped to it. He could have said, yeah, well.
Speaker 1: No he would not. That was that would have been
Speaker 1: That would have been worse because if he didn't, if
Speaker 1: he didn't cop to it, then I don't know what
Speaker 1: I would have done next, But that's bad. But it
Speaker 1: would have been it would have been really bad. But
Speaker 1: but look it also, I'm not necessarily recommending people friends
Speaker 1: on their on their bosses as a as a tactic.
Speaker 1: But this tactic worked great for me because guess what
Speaker 1: that was the end of me having to have people
Speaker 1: get seven fives on the damn omnia because you know,
Speaker 1: everybody that weighed in on this weighed in on how
Speaker 1: you know, just ridiculous the profile. Now Bob's actual thing
Speaker 1: would have been point point four. There's no way that
Speaker 1: he wouldn't. He wouldn't have got a good omnia. But
Speaker 1: it made I made my point and we had a
Speaker 1: bunch of fun with it.
Speaker 2: So now it's good. It's good for the office. It's great.
Speaker 2: I love I love a good long joke like that
Speaker 2: that takes a while to form, and it's just great.
Speaker 2: It makes I could guy so many stories about Clooney
Speaker 2: was a big guy with that. He lived with an
Speaker 2: actor named Richard Kind. Yeah, he was at Lakes, funny
Speaker 2: guy and they were young together, not having worked yet
Speaker 2: in Hollywood, getting little jobs here and there. Richard Kind,
Speaker 2: nicest guy in the world. George Cloudy finds his picture
Speaker 2: a painting in the garbage, an awful painting. Awful, but
Speaker 2: he tested Richard. You know, at some point, I just
Speaker 2: feel like I want to suck the paint. I feel
Speaker 2: like it's in me. It's like I could be good
Speaker 2: at it. He's given this whole spiel. He goes, you
Speaker 2: should paint, George. Yeah, just keeps me more creative and
Speaker 2: paint away. So he takes a part of his room.
Speaker 2: He hangs up this shitty painting he took for the
Speaker 2: garbage and puts a sheet over it. He goes, oh, look,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mess around. When I'm done, I'll show you.
Speaker 2: Oh I wouldn't look, of course. So he paints over
Speaker 2: the person's name who did this actual piece of shit,
Speaker 2: And he puts his name, George Clooney, and he expensive
Speaker 2: oil paintings. He had stains on an easel. He made
Speaker 2: it look like he was on his shirt. Months. Are
Speaker 2: you ready yet? Not yet, Richard. Finally he unveils it,
Speaker 2: and I really want this to be for you. I
Speaker 2: worked this hard. You know you're finally working. You're making money, oh, George.
Speaker 2: At this point they already had different places because work
Speaker 2: picked up and Richard kind of hung this honk of
Speaker 2: crap over his couch and told everybody for years, George
Speaker 2: paid this to me, and like five years later, Clone said,
Speaker 2: I took that from the garbage to the piece of shit.
Speaker 1: That's good. I love that.
Speaker 2: It takes some time.
Speaker 1: Look it uh having that kind of culture. I mean,
Speaker 1: back in the day you got you're in you you
Speaker 1: were in an office twelve hours a day, five days
Speaker 1: a week with everybody. I mean you have to do
Speaker 1: things to loosen it up, and and those kind of
Speaker 1: things brought everybody in a weird way together and it
Speaker 1: was just a great experience. I mean, I wish my
Speaker 1: kids could having that kind of work experience. I mean
Speaker 1: it's just so different now everybody I talk to you,
Speaker 1: nobody's going into an office. It's still living like this
Speaker 1: on zoom all day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a shame. I mean I used to Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean working in a newsroom, of course, was one
Speaker 2: of the easily the best times of my life, and
Speaker 2: so many crazy It's like the last bastion where you
Speaker 2: could tell a dirty joke and the women won't get offended,
Speaker 2: they'll join in. It was a different era too, but
Speaker 2: you know, people smoke cigars in their office. There was
Speaker 2: even people would have a drink in their office. The
Speaker 2: women didn't worry about if you're flirting with them or
Speaker 2: saying you look great in that skirt, or it just
Speaker 2: was a great time to have a bunch of friends
Speaker 2: and shoot the shit, like you said, nine or ten
Speaker 2: hours a day, and to go about your day without them.
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, you saw them all, you saw your
Speaker 2: family back in those days. Very different now.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, for so many reasons between the financial
Speaker 1: state of the country where we are with technology and
Speaker 1: no I know, no, I mean all of these AI
Speaker 1: stories and stuff that we're I'm involved right now in
Speaker 1: a product literally that makes radio stations obsolete. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's AI.
Speaker 7: It's AI powered radio where the the the AI voices
Speaker 7: are so good and the technology is so great that
Speaker 7: it is all localized. You're bringing local content in real
Speaker 7: time into the delivery. It's and all of these companies
Speaker 7: are in trouble. They all need to cut expenses. They're
Speaker 7: gonna I mean, they're gonna do the obvious thing, and
Speaker 7: by the way, they will sound better.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: AI movies are right around the corner.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm working with the UH, another company that
Speaker 1: is doing this on the video side, where I mean
Speaker 1: again replacing news departments. It's over local television stations, and
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just this is what it is. And
Speaker 1: I don't know what job there is on planet Earth
Speaker 1: today that AI isn't going to either, you know, completely
Speaker 1: disappear or or modify to the point where you have far, far,
Speaker 1: far less people in the field. You know, everything from
Speaker 1: medicine to you know, I don't know how they're going
Speaker 1: to invade sports they get to figure, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't mean I don't mean the the ancillary things around sports.
Speaker 1: I mean the actual playing of the game. I don't
Speaker 1: know how that is going to come into the I
Speaker 1: don't think you can replace the with an artificial lebron,
Speaker 1: although I would prefer an artificial lebron in that case.
Speaker 2: No, me go on Instagram and I see these pretty
Speaker 2: Instagram models. My algorithm is insane, And sometimes I'll send
Speaker 2: it to a friend and I'll go, look at this girl.
Speaker 2: He's younger than me, he's more into this whole. He goes,
Speaker 2: that's a I I can tell right away now getting
Speaker 2: my eyes trained now to tell AI people from from
Speaker 2: real people. But you go on a porn site and
Speaker 2: just you create your own girl. I haven't done it,
Speaker 2: but you create your own girl of whatever features, whatever
Speaker 2: body type. It's fucking crazy what they.
Speaker 1: Can do and your AI porn bot you can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they want no, but they you're making them have sex with.
Speaker 2: I haven't done it yet, but from what I hear
Speaker 2: is you you could create their body and then I
Speaker 2: would imagine there are acts you could do with them
Speaker 2: in terms of communicate with them, or they'll do things
Speaker 2: to their own body for your benefit, but they'll be communication.
Speaker 2: The voice sounds off from what I've heard from I've
Speaker 2: seen little snippets. The voice is wrong yet. But once
Speaker 2: they perfect that, like you said, it's gonna be so eerie.
Speaker 2: It already is eerie. You know. Now they don't have
Speaker 2: to just buy a five thousand dollars real doll, which
Speaker 2: used to be the thing like old membered by these
Speaker 2: dolls that look fate.
Speaker 1: But relationships between biological men and women are going to
Speaker 1: be you know.
Speaker 2: I know you're.
Speaker 1: Desperately trying to get to population equalization and get that
Speaker 1: birth rate up.
Speaker 2: Forgetting No, I don't know how it done. No, I
Speaker 2: agree with you. It's it's all. It's all scary shit.
Speaker 2: It's the only thing about my life being in my
Speaker 2: sixties that I'm a little happy about that I'm probably
Speaker 2: not going to see the worst of it before it
Speaker 2: really explodes and this whole world becomes very different. Yeah,
Speaker 2: my kids will it. I know. It sucks.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, and you know. And it's moving
Speaker 1: so fast that even my oldest kids who are now
Speaker 1: in there early to to late thirties, the skills they
Speaker 1: came out of school with are reaching obsolescence and all
Speaker 1: this stuff is coming in. It's moving at such a
Speaker 1: such a way to change that even my son just
Speaker 1: graduated last year, how much of what he learned is
Speaker 1: going to be I know.
Speaker 2: I've told Rocco, you know, not that he's asking me,
Speaker 2: but I were talking about trade schools, and I said, listen,
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with putting up a house, not wrong
Speaker 2: with being an electrician or a plumber. You know, you
Speaker 2: get three or four guys, you get a couple of
Speaker 2: trucks before you don't. You've got a big business. You're
Speaker 2: putting them housing. Like think in terms of that that's
Speaker 2: not going to be replaced one day. Sure, I should
Speaker 2: replace electricity.
Speaker 1: And absolutely, and plumbing absolutely.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how that could be done. How
Speaker 2: do you do that?
Speaker 1: It can replace anything? Well, so some method for detection,
Speaker 1: detecting where there's an electrical problem, and then the method
Speaker 1: for doing the repair. You don't think that an artificial
Speaker 1: intelligence will be able to do it. Not only would
Speaker 1: they be able to do it, be able to do
Speaker 1: it with much greater precision, and be able to do
Speaker 1: it faster than any Everything is up.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to I'm know, I'm trying to. Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2: So it's going to be a very soulless world, very
Speaker 2: soulless world.
Speaker 1: It is really to just to think about and start
Speaker 1: and just contemplated and imagine, you know, we'll be off
Speaker 1: the earth by twenty forty or maybe twenty fifty.
Speaker 2: Right, it's scary.
Speaker 1: What's it going to be like in twenty eighty.
Speaker 2: Go look at Black Mirror. Watch the Black Mirror series
Speaker 2: on Netflix. Everything they're talking about has already been happening,
Speaker 2: you know. I always done that. Obviously, when you see
Speaker 2: something in a movie or on TV, it's because it's
Speaker 2: happening somewhere, little bits of it, and they expand upon
Speaker 2: them for the screen. But go back and look at
Speaker 2: Vanilla Sky. You wouldn't believe the things in that movie
Speaker 2: that are now here already that we thought was so
Speaker 2: crazy twenty years ago. But the robots are gonna get
Speaker 2: mad at us. Did you see that one fighting in China?
Speaker 2: That video of the robots trying to fight together? Look, man,
Speaker 2: that's just and you can't beat them.
Speaker 1: Yep. Well we're so scary. It's when you decided to
Speaker 1: kill them, and they don't want to be.
Speaker 2: Dead, right, yeah, sure enough. We'll walk down the street
Speaker 2: and see people who are robots. Well we'll try to
Speaker 2: identify that that maybe not us, but our kids will.
Speaker 2: People will crashing in the street. You'll wonder, is that
Speaker 2: is that a fake?
Speaker 1: You have got some prototype for a house robot you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, yeah, and a.
Speaker 1: House but you know, and I don't want that my home.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. How can cook and and and you'll clean
Speaker 1: and do all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Listen, I don't know, bro, that's scary. I don't want
Speaker 2: to be depressed, but it is depressing.
Speaker 1: Well, they cook, clean and give great plow jobs. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're you're you're probably gonna feel att differently.
Speaker 2: No, that's true. There's that angle. That's true. That's true.
Speaker 2: So wives will be we don't need wives anymore.
Speaker 1: Husbands are and they don't need husbands, and they'll come first.
Speaker 1: By the way, of course, it will be the elimination
Speaker 1: of the husband before the way.
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully we'll figure. Hopefully next week we'll be better
Speaker 2: news with Trump and Elon, and we'll try to feel
Speaker 2: better about our situation we're in right now.
Speaker 1: If not, I'll just tell another factical joke story from you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get more of those. Those are great. Those are great. Okay, buddies,
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you U al right, come on,