Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Thursday.
Speaker 2: That means we're going to talk about pop culture and Bravo.
Speaker 2: So I got my friend here, Deanna, changed to chat
Speaker 2: both things.
Speaker 3: How you doing, Deanna, very pain. It's so nice to
Speaker 3: be with you during this holiday season, you know, touchdown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the world is heavy at the moment.
Speaker 1: It's heavy. It's every day we got something new, something new.
Speaker 3: It's really crazy.
Speaker 1: So I'm happy to.
Speaker 2: Come on here and kind of talk about light and
Speaker 2: aerie things like Bravo. And I got to tell you
Speaker 2: that last night the new Vader Pump Roles was on
Speaker 2: after I guess.
Speaker 1: It was after Salt Lake. I guess I watched Salt.
Speaker 2: Lake and then I was waiting for Watch What Happens Live,
Speaker 2: and then they slapped a Vander Pump on to trick me, right,
Speaker 2: So I was flipped it over to HGTV as I
Speaker 2: want to do, just to touch in with some international
Speaker 2: house centers or whatever. Yeah, and I went back to
Speaker 2: see if Watch What Happens Live was on, and so
Speaker 2: I got sucked into maybe like the last five minutes
Speaker 2: of the second episode of vander Pump Rolls, and it was.
Speaker 1: Like copy paste.
Speaker 2: It was literally a fight at a pool party that
Speaker 2: looked exactly like another rooftop poll that like first season
Speaker 2: of our vander Pump you know, Stacy Jacks had done.
Speaker 1: And I was like, what are we doing right?
Speaker 2: Why didn't they first of all give Sir an entire makeover,
Speaker 2: make it look like a brand new restaurant, because it's
Speaker 2: that shit is dated, that's all, and then new outfits,
Speaker 2: you know, so it looked like and then make then
Speaker 2: call it vander Pump Roles second shift.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like just something new.
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Too much of the same.
Speaker 3: I mean, I do think it smart. You know, I
Speaker 3: will only watch the first episode. I didn't see last Nights,
Speaker 3: but I did think it was smart that we did
Speaker 3: a full recast, not one, you know, that felt right.
Speaker 3: And obviously it's not going to work every time, like
Speaker 3: New York, maybe that's not working one hundred percent, you know,
Speaker 3: but sometimes you need connective tissue. But I think we
Speaker 3: had just sort of bottomed out with that other group,
Speaker 3: like we did everything we could do with them, so
Speaker 3: it felt nice. I thought that was really smart, I imagine,
Speaker 3: because I do think Sir is not doing that well
Speaker 3: financially in that, so I don't know that they had
Speaker 3: a budget to remake and redo.
Speaker 2: It's that same bathroom that Stossa used to hotter Charnay,
Speaker 2: you know, in the toilet tank. I mean, it's not
Speaker 2: a not a not a new mirror, not a new
Speaker 2: tile on the floor, like nothing.
Speaker 3: The only thing I'll say about that is it feels
Speaker 3: like when you've worked in a restaurant, you know, Like
Speaker 3: I'll go back occasionally to the restaurant where I work
Speaker 3: the longest, which is downtown in the Bonaventure Hotels Steakhouse
Speaker 3: at the top, and it's a you know, it's a
Speaker 3: it's a union hotel, so it's different from like others.
Speaker 3: But there's people who've been there since the seventies literally literally, Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know. So there's something about the consistency of a
Speaker 3: look and that I do find true to form. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this cru is gone and in five years another crew
Speaker 3: is like, there's something about it that makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: I understand all of that.
Speaker 2: I guess because I'm just such a diehard fan for
Speaker 2: the original vander Pump roles that this is rough for me.
Speaker 2: So I did watch the full first episode Okay, did
Speaker 2: watch some of those people and watch what happens and
Speaker 2: then just sort of caught the tail end of this
Speaker 2: second episode. And unless somebody watches it and is like
Speaker 2: you are missing out, this is amazing, then I'll touch
Speaker 2: back in.
Speaker 1: But otherwise I think I'm done. I've got so many.
Speaker 2: Shows and so I gotta keep up my brain power
Speaker 2: for listen. I don't normally watch Below Deck, but I
Speaker 2: know we've got the below Deck coming up where the
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City Girls were on, and I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: to watch that whole season.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm gonna have to. You're looking at your
Speaker 3: future and what's on deck and what your commitments currently are,
Speaker 3: and it's like, if you don't need to be fully committed,
Speaker 3: then you're gonna let you just sit this one out.
Speaker 3: And I think that's actually healthy.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, I thank you, thank you for supporting
Speaker 2: my choices. Let's talk about some Bravo news before we
Speaker 2: get into it. So Jinshaw, she's out, free as a bird.
Speaker 2: What thoughts about.
Speaker 1: She came out?
Speaker 2: We saw the you know, pictures of her coming out
Speaker 2: in a hockey coach shaw and then we saw her
Speaker 2: you know, of course then she had gotten herself put
Speaker 2: together and then look, you know, was in a trench
Speaker 2: code or whatever. I did notice that the size difference
Speaker 2: of the lips, hmm, it comes out looked great, by
Speaker 2: the way, looked great. Her her almost natural face looked great.
Speaker 3: She's got a great natural face.
Speaker 1: She had a good base to start. Yeah. So now
Speaker 1: Andy has said over and over since.
Speaker 3: No uncertain terms.
Speaker 2: So when before she went in too, Now he's like,
Speaker 2: don't ask me again, Like how many times I'm gonna
Speaker 2: say she's not coming back?
Speaker 1: I don't want no?
Speaker 2: Uh uh, But what do you think is going to happen?
Speaker 2: Will there'll be a documentary that she participates in. Will
Speaker 2: Are we going to get her on Nightline or one
Speaker 2: of these type shows?
Speaker 3: Well that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, I think that, like any
Speaker 3: reality she's definitely going to do a Trader's right. I
Speaker 3: mean that just seems like that's happening, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think she's got to be home for a little bit.
Speaker 2: But you know what my understanding is, she is in
Speaker 2: the halfway house until like August, because August twenty twenty
Speaker 2: six was her earliest possible release date.
Speaker 1: Okay, so they said they could let her out but
Speaker 1: she has to be in the transitional facility.
Speaker 3: So she's not going to be in Scotland at least
Speaker 3: she's not doing the next season of Traders, all right,
Speaker 3: So you know, I think that the reality world is
Speaker 3: her oyster. And if she wants to do any of
Speaker 3: those competition shows, I'm sure they're all probably hitting her up.
Speaker 1: The villains.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but what you know, Listen, people do change,
Speaker 3: and she may. It would be so surprising if she
Speaker 3: did not bite. You know. Yes, I think if it
Speaker 3: were me, to your point, be an executive producer on
Speaker 3: the one and only docuseries, it's going to be the
Speaker 3: you know that you get to cultivate and yeah, and
Speaker 3: make some money on for Hulu.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be on Hulu. Yea.
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Speaker 2: every home. So okay, well it's interesting because she hasn't,
Speaker 2: you know, come out with I'm out and it's amazing.
Speaker 2: You know, we haven't seen that, thank goodness. So maybe
Speaker 2: she's hired to be our persons, like let's just tap
Speaker 2: it down with the pep it down with a shaw,
Speaker 2: amazing shot test all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's been through it, like she has been sitting
Speaker 3: in jail, you know.
Speaker 1: So but earned, earned, earned, beyond beyond.
Speaker 3: And I think there's so few lines in the sand
Speaker 3: in terms of like reality stars and redemption that shwindling,
Speaker 3: specifically being at the helm of a scam to you know,
Speaker 3: steal from old people. I'm comfortable with that line in
Speaker 3: the sound of like no, you're not you're not showing
Speaker 3: back up on Bravo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I appreciate that Andy has said it from
Speaker 2: the beginning. He's like nope, and he is like, I
Speaker 2: really wish people would stop asking me, you know.
Speaker 3: I know, I feel like his parents told him that,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I feel like he had
Speaker 3: a conversation with his parents.
Speaker 2: But himself got swindled by somebody like that. Remember, shoot,
Speaker 2: I forgot that.
Speaker 1: He himself. I got on the phone with somebody, he
Speaker 1: gave his information.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my god, I forgot that. It's horrible. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, do you know I know someone who's like
Speaker 3: they a lot of times they do it when there's
Speaker 3: a death, so they'll look for the people who just
Speaker 3: lost his spouse, who are very vulnerable and their finances
Speaker 3: are like could be in a scary place because you know,
Speaker 3: for yeah, they're not used to handling it, and they
Speaker 3: go in and they yeah, I have a friend of
Speaker 3: mine's mom was drumorined, it's horrible. It's horrific.
Speaker 2: Well, my dad just recently they similar to the Andy
Speaker 2: Cohen thing. They got him on the phone.
Speaker 1: They called him.
Speaker 2: They said they were the bank, and they had him
Speaker 2: like pull up on his laptop and they were like, okay,
Speaker 2: well so we're trying to get your account and so
Speaker 2: we're seeing this. He's like no, and he's like telling
Speaker 2: them like what's on his screen? My god, and my
Speaker 2: mom like called my sister. It was like hysterical, like
Speaker 2: you've got to get over here, like Dad.
Speaker 1: Is not listening to me.
Speaker 2: And finally he did like hang up with them, and
Speaker 2: then of course he had to go to the bank
Speaker 2: and make sure that it was taken. And but it
Speaker 2: was very similar what happened to Andy Cohen, who's thirty
Speaker 2: years younger than my dad. And both my mom and
Speaker 2: my mother in law both had a person call and
Speaker 2: do that thing where they were like, this is Anna
Speaker 2: my daughter, and I need you to help me. Like
Speaker 2: with my mother in law Anna, it was Anna that
Speaker 2: called who Anna was with us and we were like
Speaker 2: she wasn't called and said she was a Disney World
Speaker 2: and like somebody had stolen her purson. She needed money.
Speaker 2: So and then what happened to my mother? So they
Speaker 2: called my mother and it was Anna saying she had
Speaker 2: been in like this car accident, and then like another
Speaker 2: person got on the phone. I was like, I'm the lawyer.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to help her. No, she doesn't want to
Speaker 2: call her parents. She said you would help give the money.
Speaker 1: Holy shit. Yeah. And then my mom called me that
Speaker 1: day and was like, check on Anna and see if
Speaker 1: she's in her room.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm looking at her. She's in
Speaker 2: her bed down to sleep. And my mom was like, no,
Speaker 2: I promise you.
Speaker 1: She just called me.
Speaker 2: I was like, Mom, I'm looking at her, looking at
Speaker 2: her actual face. She is asleep in her bed. It is,
Speaker 2: you know, noon on a Saturday, or else would she be.
Speaker 2: She's dead asleep, you know. And my mom was like yeah,
Speaker 2: and then like completely tricked her and she get, she gets.
Speaker 2: She didn't give any money, and my mother in law
Speaker 2: didn't give any money. But my mother in law was hysterical.
Speaker 2: I kept calling my husband, like, please check on Anna.
Speaker 2: My husband's like, she is in the car with us.
Speaker 2: We are she is not in Disneyland. She is in
Speaker 2: the car with us. We are doing X YV like
Speaker 2: And it's very hard for them because at the time
Speaker 2: and now it's even worse. At the time, somehow they
Speaker 2: had a way to make the voice sound the same,
Speaker 2: and now it's even worse.
Speaker 3: What they really Yeah, no, I can't imagine they chose
Speaker 3: they got your daughter's voice.
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Now. My mother in law, I mean, we're in yeah,
Speaker 2: and was beginning stages of not doing so well when
Speaker 2: this happened to my mom. I mean, my mom was
Speaker 2: probably only in her late seventies at the time when
Speaker 2: this happened, and she was like, I'm telling you, and
Speaker 2: she will say to this day I'm telling you that
Speaker 2: was Anna's voice. I know her darks and I know
Speaker 2: her voice. That was her voice.
Speaker 1: I'm like, but it wasn't. She was asleep, you know.
Speaker 3: But they could have so kind of grabbed it. There's
Speaker 3: we all speak online, you know. They had grabbed it
Speaker 3: and cut on Instagram, pulled a bunch of stuff and yeah,
Speaker 3: put together.
Speaker 2: She's like, tag this is my grandma, you know, on Instagram.
Speaker 2: So it's crazy. So Jinshaw, No, he can't come back
Speaker 2: on TV. AI has just major job easier. And no,
Speaker 2: we don't. We don't want you, but we're glad that
Speaker 2: you're out. Yeah, and maybe you can sense it. Holidays
Speaker 2: with your kids.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Candy and Todd's divorce, Okay, I've heard two different things now.
Speaker 2: I have heard that he is with this person that
Speaker 2: they were in a thrupple with and the girl is pregnant.
Speaker 2: And then I've also heard that she is with the
Speaker 2: girl that they were in a thrill. Wow, I feel
Speaker 2: like the Todd thing might be more true.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we've seen that picture of him with
Speaker 3: her pregnant. Now, I don't know if that's doctored. We
Speaker 3: can't believe anything anymore. Truly No, But that's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, that's the danger of that thrupple life, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta be careful and someone's going to
Speaker 3: fall in love and it's not going to end well.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know who thinks that they're above this stuff,
Speaker 3: but it's just too crazy. Yeah, it's beyond like you
Speaker 3: want to have a one off I mean, not for me,
Speaker 3: but God blessed, but like full on thrapple where you're
Speaker 3: having a life with another with a third person in
Speaker 3: your relationship, get out of here.
Speaker 2: I don't I've never heard of a case where it works,
Speaker 2: but it never does. I've never heard of a case
Speaker 2: like No, we've been a throuple for twelve years and
Speaker 2: we're happy.
Speaker 3: Okay, did you have did you watch that show on
Speaker 3: HBO with like the there's a show, Oh god.
Speaker 2: It's got a lot of TLC shows with the multiples
Speaker 2: in the family.
Speaker 3: They I don't know the name of it, but basically
Speaker 3: we I was watching it. I was watching with two
Speaker 3: of my friends, you know, remotely, and at the end, like,
Speaker 3: whatever the heck happened with these people? I think one
Speaker 3: of the guys had a lot of shady stuff going on.
Speaker 3: They don't even end the season, it just stops. Oh,
Speaker 3: it's like episode six and it's over.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I think that was that TLC show.
Speaker 3: Okay, and then they moved it over to HBO.
Speaker 1: Because TLC Discovery HBO. It's all in the.
Speaker 3: Okay, who give me? Do you not remember anyone from there?
Speaker 1: No? I just remember that.
Speaker 2: It was like, from what I recall, it was like
Speaker 2: two couples and they had kids, and then they didn't
Speaker 2: know the one kid was maybe the dad of somebody else,
Speaker 2: but all this news came out that one of the
Speaker 2: guys had done a bunch of shady stuff and all
Speaker 2: these other kids. Yeah, that was a show that was
Speaker 2: on TLC that they just came abruptly.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean I started watching it with two
Speaker 3: friends and we were like, wait, what that's it?
Speaker 2: You know, Listen, TLC doesn't normally do that. They'll they'll
Speaker 2: ride out a horrible character to the end, but with this,
Speaker 2: they were like, even this is too.
Speaker 1: Much for us.
Speaker 3: Wow. And he was so judgmental, which also you know.
Speaker 1: Glass houses, you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of possible thropples, let's talk about bron Win
Speaker 2: and Todd.
Speaker 1: She threw it out there.
Speaker 2: He didn't bite, And I guess she's gonna announce that
Speaker 2: the reunion, which is probably in a couple of weeks
Speaker 2: that they have separated.
Speaker 1: And who could have seen it come in Vienna?
Speaker 3: Nobody know they were perfect for each other and it
Speaker 3: was such a loving and and just energizing relationship. I
Speaker 3: really thought, God, one day, hopefully, you know, my relationship
Speaker 3: can get close to that. You know, it's a man's world.
Speaker 3: We still live in the patriarchy, you know, I I
Speaker 3: don't know, God give her some sort of metal for
Speaker 3: being with his farty.
Speaker 1: Farty, goudy goutyyoudy.
Speaker 3: Farty, stinky, grumpy, grumpy, chronic halitosis ass you know, like
Speaker 3: I know he has chronic altosis.
Speaker 1: I just do cherry stealing.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like just doesn't have a funny, funny bone
Speaker 3: in his body. She's out there bending backwards, putting on costumes,
Speaker 3: running around like a hot dog. I mean it's so
Speaker 3: hard to watch, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she would do that anyway, because that's
Speaker 2: just in her. I don't know, I don't know who
Speaker 2: amongst us who has got a bigger collection of blow.
Speaker 1: About this than bron Win. I mean, where does she
Speaker 1: keep them all?
Speaker 3: I would I'm no psychologist, but I bet you if
Speaker 3: she was in a more balanced relationship, she would need
Speaker 3: less costuming.
Speaker 1: Okay, because she wouldn't feel the need to be on
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 3: She wouldn't feel the need to do some sort of
Speaker 3: weird presentational act to get some attention and to elicit
Speaker 3: a response. I think a lot of that is her
Speaker 3: trying to elicit a response from him.
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Speaker 2: Last year at the reunion when you came on, I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, he was. He seemed normal and nice
Speaker 2: and like, okay, yeah, I watched myself back on TV.
Speaker 2: That's embarrassing. I don't speak to her very well. And
Speaker 2: yes I was texting a woman and Gwen saw it
Speaker 2: and all that's terrible. But I've also hoping getting away
Speaker 2: from him. I don't even need to see her date
Speaker 2: or anything. I just need to see her be sex
Speaker 2: and the city, just like hot girl live in her
Speaker 2: single life.
Speaker 3: Okay, I agree. She really is is connected to Whitney.
Speaker 3: It's interesting, even like last night when she disclosed the
Speaker 3: fact that she's been with the female at some point
Speaker 3: she needed Whitney to like be there with her for
Speaker 3: that and to not take off. I'm like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: I think of her as a pretty strong person, so
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, it's interesting you know that she does
Speaker 3: need I think she sees Whitney as like her age,
Speaker 3: and yes, you know, and she she needed her there
Speaker 3: to kind of like deal with these birds chirping in
Speaker 3: her face. You know.
Speaker 1: It's funny too, because when they the two of.
Speaker 2: Them had that sit down and they were, you know, talking,
Speaker 2: about open marriages or you know whatever. And it was
Speaker 2: interesting because they were talking about being married to these
Speaker 2: older men. I'm like, okay, well, Whitney, your husband is
Speaker 2: like ten eleven years older than you, not not like
Speaker 2: thirty seven years older than you.
Speaker 1: Like you know, I don't think quite a difference.
Speaker 3: Husband is like remarkably older than her. I mean, ten
Speaker 3: years between a man and a woman is not newsworthy.
Speaker 3: Ten like four years between a woman and a man
Speaker 3: is like they're going to write an article about it.
Speaker 3: But oh, yeah, you know yeah. I'm like, all right, yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't know personally that you get to just open
Speaker 3: up your relationship. It seems like they were like, well,
Speaker 3: this is what happens when you date someone older. At
Speaker 3: some point you get to be with others. Like wait
Speaker 3: a minute, read the print in that one.
Speaker 2: Isn't todd tired, isn't he's an older gentleman. I don't
Speaker 2: know if he's how much older he is than me.
Speaker 2: But I'm tired, and I don't need to be listen.
Speaker 2: I barely even want to look within my house. I
Speaker 2: don't need to be also looking elsewhere.
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted.
Speaker 3: Had being able to pull ass is so upsetting to me,
Speaker 3: like I find it nauseating. You know, I will to say,
Speaker 3: I'll look it up. Yeah, let's get down to it,
Speaker 3: because there's nothing about him that should inspire. Like if
Speaker 3: you're gonna tell me, okay, well he's you know, paying
Speaker 3: women X, Y and Z for their time, Yes, you
Speaker 3: know that one thing, Like I guess if he's like
Speaker 3: buying them gifts, you know what I mean? But like,
Speaker 3: what the hell like not this guy?
Speaker 2: Okay, So she is forty and he is It says
Speaker 2: either sixty six or sixty seven as of late twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five, So I take it back. He is ten
Speaker 2: years older than me, so he's really got to be tired.
Speaker 2: And they're twenty six years apart.
Speaker 3: So nothing sexual about him. I mean, I just.
Speaker 2: Can't deal there's not. And then once we met her mom,
Speaker 2: all of it made sense. Right, We're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: she's trying to get this older person approval and she
Speaker 2: doesn't have it. She doesn't have it from Muzzy, she
Speaker 2: doesn't have it from Todd, and she needs to stand
Speaker 2: on her own two feet and realize, you know, she's
Speaker 2: like best friends with Christia Ciriano Fus step into that.
Speaker 3: March around with him. That's a blast. He seems like
Speaker 3: nothing but fun, yes and creative, brilliant. Have fun with him.
Speaker 3: Go get some martinis, Go get some espresso martiniz with him.
Speaker 1: Going up with Christmas Cariana. You don't need Todd Muzzy.
Speaker 2: I really do want to know the origin of the
Speaker 2: name Muzzy, And maybe we're going to get it on
Speaker 2: the reunion, because I don't know if it is like
Speaker 2: a first grandchild couldn't say whatever they were trying to
Speaker 2: call her mema and said Muzzy. You know, cause a
Speaker 2: lot of times you'll get this nickname the first grandchild
Speaker 2: will come up with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the grand parent.
Speaker 2: But Muzzy is just so close to muzzle and like
Speaker 2: Fozzy Bear. It's just so many things it could be.
Speaker 2: I just need to know with the origin of Muzzy.
Speaker 3: It does work, I will tell you that much. There
Speaker 3: she's so she's nothing but a muzzy to me, like
Speaker 3: I you know, it's right.
Speaker 1: She's in those like Kathy sweatshirts, like need coffee you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, Okay, now, Real Housewife, Ultimate Girls Strip,
Speaker 2: road Trip. I'm obsessed with it because they announced at
Speaker 2: Bravo Kahn and gave no other information. Okay, Okay, So
Speaker 2: I'm annoyed by this, and I'm obsessed with finding out
Speaker 2: any kernel of information because I'm trying to figure out,
Speaker 2: are they going to like pick up some ladies in
Speaker 2: New York City and then drive down to like pick
Speaker 2: up some Michelle Salahie in DC, and then where are
Speaker 2: we going? I mean we're going, We're going over to
Speaker 2: New Jersey. We're going to pick up Teresa. They We're
Speaker 2: going to go to Dallas, Atlanta, and then there's a
Speaker 2: big wide space of no ladies and then we've got
Speaker 2: to go all the way to the west coast.
Speaker 1: So what's happening on this week?
Speaker 3: Do you think we're in arinder van collecting housewives across
Speaker 3: down a coast?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're. I think we're in an RV.
Speaker 2: You got some guy that's driving it. That'll be the
Speaker 2: comedic foil wherever. So often it'll be like, I don't
Speaker 2: know that Ninie was pretty loud, you know, or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: And I've heard it.
Speaker 3: They give us anything. No, it just they just gave
Speaker 3: us a title.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've asked everybody, and the most I heard
Speaker 2: was I heard Heather McDonald talking about her show this week,
Speaker 2: and what she had gleamed is that was going to
Speaker 2: be a RV situation and that she also her Nieannie
Speaker 2: isn't talks to do it, even though you know she
Speaker 2: did fire Andy specifically Bravo.
Speaker 1: But I guess they got over it.
Speaker 3: They seem to have gotten over it.
Speaker 1: I think they should get over it because I think
Speaker 1: there's she's an icon. I think that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Basically, remember when she did that sit down with
Speaker 3: with Bethany No Oh, she did a sit down on
Speaker 3: Bethany's podcast a few years ago. I feel like two
Speaker 3: years ago.
Speaker 1: During the reality reconing.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and I felt like Nini and it wasn't
Speaker 3: good to see, but she had been so beaten down
Speaker 3: by I think the man. You know, her impression is
Speaker 3: that like there was just a don't work with Nini
Speaker 3: blacklist kind of thing that went on. And I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's true or it's not. Sometimes you can
Speaker 3: get in your head about stuff and it just feels
Speaker 3: like opportunities, you know, opportunities fall away when you're not
Speaker 3: on these shows.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Relevant, and so it maybe you know, I have no
Speaker 3: I tend to believe that there's some truth to what
Speaker 3: she's saying. And then there's also just like you're out
Speaker 3: of the limelight and so you know, people aren't clamoring
Speaker 3: in the same way you know that they were so
Speaker 3: but I got I got a real sense that she
Speaker 3: had been so kind of beaten down slash humbled by
Speaker 3: the experience of being let go in the way that
Speaker 3: she was, I think. And it was sad to see
Speaker 3: because she is, you know, one of the greats and
Speaker 3: will always be. But I had the sense that she
Speaker 3: was open to mending this fence, you know, and uh,
Speaker 3: getting her life back kind of you know, it.
Speaker 2: Would be great if it was like only Ochi's on
Speaker 2: this road trip, like you're going to give us a
Speaker 2: Bethany and Nini a Ramona.
Speaker 1: A Vicky.
Speaker 3: Bethany is not going to do it.
Speaker 1: No, of course not.
Speaker 3: And I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2: I'm okay with it too, because I just enjoy her
Speaker 2: crazy TikTok good.
Speaker 3: It's just go through everything with her. I hate her,
Speaker 3: and then I warm up and then I can and
Speaker 3: he again, and then I respect her and then I
Speaker 3: you know, it's I'm all over the map with Bethany.
Speaker 3: At all times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, her latest anger at Cardier was pretty entertaining. I
Speaker 2: love when she gets real mad at a luxury bland
Speaker 2: and then tells us how much everything costs, how many
Speaker 2: Love bracelets she has, how many Cardier watches she has?
Speaker 1: You know. I like when she gets like.
Speaker 2: Really mad at a luxury brand and then she starts
Speaker 2: quoting prices. Sure, that just gives me joy because it's
Speaker 2: just so it is so out of my realm, you know.
Speaker 1: That, It's just like wow, wow, Wow.
Speaker 2: That's to me talking about like things in my office
Speaker 2: from home guds like she's talking about Cardier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the five dollars fix on her.
Speaker 2: Bracelets or yeah. Yeah, she was like, because the bracelet
Speaker 2: doesn't sit like this. It's like this, So I need
Speaker 2: to get a smaller and I know what size I wear?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Wow, who knows what size you wear in a.
Speaker 1: Cardia Love bracelet?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: Hard to know. I'll never know.
Speaker 2: Okay, Now Beverly Hills. So Beverly Hills has started. We've
Speaker 2: had two episodes. I've heard mixed things. I've heard some
Speaker 2: people like it's kind of boring, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: have loved every single.
Speaker 3: Second too, every second. Well, I think that now when
Speaker 3: you have we had two episodes.
Speaker 4: Or three, I'm trying to think, because we definitely had two,
Speaker 4: because we had the opening one and then we had
Speaker 4: the painting of the penis Isi and.
Speaker 3: Fertilla I was the second one. The penis is okay, okay, okay, great,
Speaker 3: I've kind of merged them both in my head. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that, like the reason it's really clicking this
Speaker 3: year is that Kyle has a lighter spirit, like Kyle's
Speaker 3: having fun again and we needed that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I agree.
Speaker 2: What what is Mauricio on exactly white drug?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh my god? His giggle. I'm like, I will murder
Speaker 3: you in cold blood, like I his laughing goofy ass laugh.
Speaker 3: While talking about dating, I was like.
Speaker 1: To his wife. To his wife, He's like, I don't know.
Speaker 3: That her, Like I was like, I the emotions coming
Speaker 3: up in me when I hear that her her a hearty,
Speaker 3: her horror. I'm like, mo, you're a dead man. I
Speaker 3: can't even look at your face.
Speaker 1: And he's just so.
Speaker 2: We saw him when we were in La when we
Speaker 2: were leaving dinner at Craig's. He was coming in with
Speaker 2: a young blonde girl.
Speaker 3: Stop it?
Speaker 1: Sure did I saw it with my eyes. Yes, you're dead?
Speaker 3: What were the vibes?
Speaker 2: So we had had dinner, and so were you with?
Speaker 2: I was with Matt Mahr and Ingrid and we'd had
Speaker 2: dinner and then we were just going to sit at
Speaker 2: the bar and have a drink because, by the way,
Speaker 2: always the worst plan. Just have your dinner and then
Speaker 2: go home. But when you have that extra drink, you
Speaker 2: don't feel so good the next day. Sure, but it's
Speaker 2: a mistake I make often. So we were going to
Speaker 2: have another drink, which we did, and Ingrid's like, Mauricio
Speaker 2: just walked in with some blonde.
Speaker 1: I was like, huh. So she was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I need to get this picture of you.
Speaker 2: I was like okay, and then I pose so she
Speaker 2: could get him behind me.
Speaker 3: Do you think he knew?
Speaker 2: No, And if he did, he was thrilled. But he's
Speaker 2: he's he's five nine. If he's if he's.
Speaker 3: A day okay. So so you were you wanted? I
Speaker 3: was thinking taller. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I wanted taller. But you think you see Kylie looks
Speaker 2: tall because she's tiny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, that makes sense though, I would have
Speaker 3: had him at six feet.
Speaker 2: No, they've got those tall daughters. But I don't know
Speaker 2: where it came from.
Speaker 3: Is he cute?
Speaker 1: He was? Uh?
Speaker 2: From what I could see, just from like the back
Speaker 2: and then him walking and from the side, you know,
Speaker 2: without he he seemed he seemed young and light and.
Speaker 3: Happy, unburdened by what would say, yeah, he is unburdened
Speaker 3: by what has been really truly.
Speaker 2: She went over there and was like, I'm bringing you towels,
Speaker 2: and again he's like, again, you already brought me towel.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I need somebody's towel. She's just like,
Speaker 2: you have four daughters, like you need towels. So she
Speaker 2: brings them towels and she shows them the black makeup
Speaker 2: towels so's to not get the white one sturdy and
Speaker 2: says these are not for all your whorees or whatever.
Speaker 1: And he's like, that's like, why are you why are
Speaker 1: you laughing?
Speaker 2: You just go, oh, Kyle, I wouldn't do that, or
Speaker 2: of course I know these are for our daughters. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna put them in the guest room. But he's just like, oh,
Speaker 2: portion told me.
Speaker 1: I'm in my hae.
Speaker 3: Face here's the thing. Ew here's what I actually feel now.
Speaker 3: You know, remember when vander Pump had that like article
Speaker 3: about him cheating on Kyle. The rumor is.
Speaker 2: Oh, oh Lisa vander Pump had it and then tricked
Speaker 2: brain to Glenville into like presuming yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: back in the day.
Speaker 3: I think that he has been a ho this entire time,
Speaker 3: and that Kyle had it in a place in her
Speaker 3: mind right like she knew. I believe she knew things
Speaker 3: were happening. They had an agreement of some kind in place,
Speaker 3: don't yeah, Like they have to be random, it has
Speaker 3: to be a one time thing, you know, whatever their
Speaker 3: freaking deal was. So I think that's why what we're
Speaker 3: seeing right now is so lived in mm hmm, you know,
Speaker 3: because he is now just it's not it doesn't feel new.
Speaker 1: No, and whatever.
Speaker 2: It was two seasons ago when they were separating, and
Speaker 2: you could tell she had such disdain for him when
Speaker 2: he was talking, oh yeah, when he said like, how
Speaker 2: many more tattoos are you going to get? Like I
Speaker 2: don't like it, and she was like, I don't give a.
Speaker 1: Fuck what you like. It was the anger she had.
Speaker 2: And I think at that point, either something had been
Speaker 2: exposed something so bad that she was like, now this
Speaker 2: I can't forgive like this. I was going to look
Speaker 2: the other way and don't care because we have this
Speaker 2: life and whatever. But now whatever this is that you've done,
Speaker 2: now I can't move past it. Correct and then yeah,
Speaker 2: and then she heard Morgan Wade's music and DMed her
Speaker 2: because she enjoyed the lyrics and went on a sober
Speaker 2: journey and it all just snowballed together.
Speaker 1: Here we are and here we are.
Speaker 2: And at the end of the episode when she's talking
Speaker 2: to Erica about it, and she's you know, it's obviously
Speaker 2: planned that they're going to discuss it, and she's saying
Speaker 2: to Erica, you know, the person that I was with
Speaker 2: didn't want all this. But I'm like, as Jerit said
Speaker 2: under her breath, and watch what happens live. Regarding Morgan,
Speaker 2: she's like public figure.
Speaker 3: Public figure, public figure who was on the show quite
Speaker 3: a bit.
Speaker 1: Was on the show as Kyle's friend, and she.
Speaker 3: Was singing at the memorial of her bad friend. She
Speaker 3: was getting tattoos with her. She was on the goddamn show.
Speaker 2: I think that she they dated, and I think it's,
Speaker 2: like Kyle said, she felt very strongly, and I think
Speaker 2: sometimes that can happen, like right out of a relationship
Speaker 2: and jump into something too fast. Man, woman, My issue
Speaker 2: was always the age gap with them. She didn't mention that,
Speaker 2: but for her, I just think Morgan got over it
Speaker 2: and was like, I.
Speaker 1: Don't want to do this.
Speaker 3: That's what Amy Phillips said too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she Morgan is the one that was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this was fun, but.
Speaker 3: Like wow, that's exactly what Amy said. I think you
Speaker 3: guys are right.
Speaker 1: Broke broke Call's heart right, oh man, and decided it's
Speaker 1: not worth it.
Speaker 2: This this getting these like middle aged women the Bravo
Speaker 2: bands coming to me.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't need it. That's not the fan
Speaker 1: base I want. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like she probably thought, you know what, I've
Speaker 3: probably squeezed all of the notoriety out of this moment.
Speaker 3: Whether she meant to or not, whether she really understood
Speaker 3: what it would meant, I'll give it to her. She
Speaker 3: may not have, you know, but yeah, it's definitely a
Speaker 3: good out to be like, you know what, I can't
Speaker 3: do that anymore. And then yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Because Kyle's not going to say okay, I'll quit the
Speaker 2: show to be with you.
Speaker 3: No, I mean listen, it's not she has the money.
Speaker 3: I think that Kyle. I maybe Kyle's saying this a
Speaker 3: little bit to save face as well regarding her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be. Yeah, she just let out broke
Speaker 1: up with me.
Speaker 3: That's the truth, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it's probably, like most things, a combination. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think you guys are onto something that it's this
Speaker 3: was a Morgan being really ready to move on and
Speaker 3: because she could have figured it out if she wasn't,
Speaker 3: and she would have.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now Erica said she might or might not visit Tom
Speaker 2: in jail unclear. Oy, I mean, listen, I'm not in
Speaker 2: that relationship. I don't know what that could be like
Speaker 2: to be so hoodwinked by somebody or whatever whatever the
Speaker 2: case may be. It is not the person she married.
Speaker 2: This is an entirely different person. But you would have
Speaker 2: been actually taking care of this person instead of being
Speaker 2: taken care of by the state of California.
Speaker 1: But the right move is to visit him in jail.
Speaker 2: Just Erica doesn't always see the big picture of what
Speaker 2: things look like, you know, like to the world, like
Speaker 2: to the world, it's gonna look better if you go.
Speaker 1: Visit him in jail just to say will it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was married to him for like twenty years,
Speaker 2: she should go.
Speaker 3: And like, I don't care personally if she sees him
Speaker 3: in jail, I don't stand in Listen. What I believe
Speaker 3: about Erica, and I believe this down to the bottom
Speaker 3: of my core, is that she had this opportunity to
Speaker 3: live a lifestyle that was completely out of her all
Speaker 3: possibility is growing up and in her life when she
Speaker 3: was cocktailing and raising her son and met Tom. Yes,
Speaker 3: I think she believed she deserved that life. I do
Speaker 3: not think she gives a shit about those victims. I
Speaker 3: really don't. I don't think she cares about anyone else
Speaker 3: other than herself, and I think she would have done
Speaker 3: anything to maintain her lifestyle. So whether or not she
Speaker 3: knew exactly what was going on, No, I don't think
Speaker 3: she knew exactly what was going on. But she's very bright,
Speaker 3: very very astute and bright, and she listens to everything
Speaker 3: and like, do you remember that like a season ago
Speaker 3: where they were on vacation and she was drunk at
Speaker 3: dinner and she was rattling off all those like historical
Speaker 3: facts to those strangers. If you remember it like it was.
Speaker 3: I'm it's forever ago. So but it was in that moment.
Speaker 3: I'm like, Oh, she's whip smart and she listens to everything.
Speaker 3: And I believe that she had a blind eye to
Speaker 3: Tom's conduct. And I don't think she cared.
Speaker 1: Well. I think it's like kyl ursio.
Speaker 2: It's just sort of like, don't bring it home, don't
Speaker 2: let me see it, don't tell me anything.
Speaker 1: I don't want to know, right, but I know.
Speaker 2: And I think when she left him, I something in
Speaker 2: me says, somehow she had to have known this shit
Speaker 2: was going out and that's why.
Speaker 1: She left him. Oh, of course, because it did. It
Speaker 1: did happen like several months later. It wasn't like right away.
Speaker 2: But where she left him, she immediately started in on
Speaker 2: always banging this judge.
Speaker 1: And da da da da.
Speaker 2: She started that campaign. I think you're writing that she
Speaker 2: doesn't care about the victims at all. I think at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think it occurs to her that like what
Speaker 2: he did in those I think it occurs to her
Speaker 2: that she was embarrassed and her life had to change.
Speaker 3: Yes, and she affected, and she's in like she has
Speaker 3: lawsuits and all of that is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I do think she should say goodbye.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not waiting on it. I think that
Speaker 3: how are you waiting on it? Have you been waiting
Speaker 3: on it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I just want her to say she I just want
Speaker 2: her to say I did. I went to the prison
Speaker 2: and I saw him. It's not good. This is not
Speaker 2: the person I'm married. This is not the person I know.
Speaker 2: He didn't know me. I've got the closure I needed.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going to remember the good times, and
Speaker 2: I think optically for the world that would be a
Speaker 2: good thing for her to do. But I mean the
Speaker 2: way that she behaved after everything with downwa times, like
Speaker 2: I don't get a fuck about anybody but me and
Speaker 2: all that. You know, that wasn't great. So now we
Speaker 2: need to sort of step away from that and show
Speaker 2: that maybe you at least cared about him to say.
Speaker 3: I mean, I personally don't think she owes him that, okay,
Speaker 3: because what he did was disgusting and egregious. I don't
Speaker 3: think she owes him anything in terms of a visit.
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like things right here, but like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I think he deserves to rot.
Speaker 1: You're right, I changed my mind see is that easy?
Speaker 1: It's that easy.
Speaker 3: I think she's I think that one of the reasons
Speaker 3: she wouldn't is also because of perception. She's just gotten
Speaker 3: out of people coming for her. So like, I think
Speaker 3: part of that is, like I don't even want to
Speaker 3: touch this and stir it back up again, you know.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean I also don't know what she
Speaker 3: would get out of it, because.
Speaker 2: Well, like she said to Sudden, it's not like I'm
Speaker 2: going to show up, but he's immediately tell me all
Speaker 2: these answers, right, you know, he's not going to open
Speaker 2: up and tell me why he did all these things.
Speaker 2: You know, there's not going to be there will be
Speaker 2: no closure.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's a closure. And I also would
Speaker 3: be curious as to what she knows anyway, But that's
Speaker 3: just me. Listen, it's possible she doesn't. I just think
Speaker 3: she has told us who she is and that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, let's see Erica.
Speaker 1: Okay, listen, Jari bugs me.
Speaker 2: She's always bugged me, and this particular episode, she bugged me,
Speaker 2: and it was a moment where she where she shouldn't
Speaker 2: have bugged me. It should have been a moment where
Speaker 2: I had some empathy for her, but I didn't because
Speaker 2: she was being She's so dramatic. Little Jagger looking at
Speaker 2: me and I don't even recognize my child talking about Harry.
Speaker 1: Thank you. P K was never around.
Speaker 2: These kids' lives haven't changed massively in the fact that
Speaker 2: that like both parents were always at home and now
Speaker 2: one parent is just never there. It's not like a
Speaker 2: huge and I think, like Rachel Zoe's saying with Rog,
Speaker 2: same idea, like nothing really has changed. He thinks he
Speaker 2: didn't help a lot before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I don't know about that. I think Rog
Speaker 3: was there with it.
Speaker 1: He was there, he was there, but I don't.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is I don't think that one
Speaker 2: day she looked at Jagger and said, and Jagger all
Speaker 2: of a sudden is like gone into a depression because
Speaker 2: he misses his dad. I think his dad is always
Speaker 2: in Europe doing god knows what.
Speaker 3: And I think this has been fot I mean months
Speaker 3: have gone by, right, like I think, well.
Speaker 2: That's again, and then to be like the whole thing
Speaker 2: was Kyle, and I felt Kyle's in this situation where
Speaker 2: she was explaining, like he just wants to go to
Speaker 2: be with my parents. In Florida and be around a
Speaker 2: male figure and whatever, and my parents want to take him,
Speaker 2: and now he says no, he's coming to take.
Speaker 1: The kids, blah blah blah. And Kyle was like, Okay.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just trying to think of like away in
Speaker 2: the middle where it doesn't get to start a fight, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they go to Florida, but also he could come to
Speaker 2: Florida and see them there and then if the only
Speaker 2: season for one day, that's on him. But I felt
Speaker 2: Kyle's point of like, try to meet in the middle
Speaker 2: so everything is not a battle.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: I agree. I think it was just for delivery. She
Speaker 3: didn't need to say. She said something along the lines
Speaker 3: of like I don't know if he's a bad person
Speaker 3: or some right, Like she said something like that and
Speaker 3: then went into it. That's what triggered her because she's
Speaker 3: sticking up for him. Yeah, and in that moment, Deirit
Speaker 3: didn't need that at that moment.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, like I said, I could see both
Speaker 2: sides work. But I think Durit is so overly dramatic
Speaker 2: and cries with no tears. She just irritates me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she just irritates me.
Speaker 3: And because she's Delulu and dramatic. And I do think
Speaker 3: that she has been living the Delulu lifestyle for years.
Speaker 3: And I think what we're seeing right now is like
Speaker 3: the veil lifting and her looking at that person and
Speaker 3: her life, and I think she's going through it for
Speaker 3: real because she's been in a bubble of designer clothes
Speaker 3: and skulls, and you know, she hasn't been dropped into
Speaker 3: like what is you know.
Speaker 2: I do wonder what will happen there, because you know
Speaker 2: it's all her stuff going to go on the real real,
Speaker 2: you know, because you know every by all accounts, everything
Speaker 2: she does buy Israel, and she does buy off the
Speaker 2: rack and she sings a Gucciese suit and she just.
Speaker 3: Buys it, you know, with what money.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess maxing out every credit card you've ever had.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I guess I.
Speaker 2: Too could get a huge wardrobe, but it would take
Speaker 2: about two days to max out my card and then
Speaker 2: what you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't seem like the funds are a veil,
Speaker 3: you know, like.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean he's been sued by Caesar's and
Speaker 2: everybody else, and so yeah, that's not going to go.
Speaker 3: Well, what Their nickname for each other.
Speaker 2: Was Bubby Bubba, Bubby Bubba, Bubba bubba, bubby.
Speaker 3: Going bubby, I think it's bubba, yeah, bubba. Yeah. I
Speaker 3: was trying to remember that the other day, like what
Speaker 3: did they call each other?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because not to be confused with Schwartz and Katie Bubba, right,
Speaker 2: this was more of a bubby boat of British accent
Speaker 2: BUBBAA yeah.
Speaker 3: I never connected the Shorts and Katie Bubba with their bubba.
Speaker 3: Those were such different bubbas to me.
Speaker 2: You know, once seems a little plash and one seems down
Speaker 2: to gut her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is which?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, Rachel Zoe I met her. I met her
Speaker 2: at Bravo Con just like on the carpet, you know.
Speaker 2: Back she it was the only time I ever stood
Speaker 2: in line, and it was in the Viking room and
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I'm going to get in line,
Speaker 2: and they started doing like four minutes. We have three minutes,
Speaker 2: and then they're letting you know, they're going to cut
Speaker 2: the line off, and INGERD and I were like, listen,
Speaker 2: we was standing this line for twenty minutes. We have
Speaker 2: we were not line standards. I cannot cut this line off.
Speaker 2: And he's like, I got you, girl, and then she
Speaker 2: let us get up there and then like right behind us,
Speaker 2: they cut the line off.
Speaker 1: Rachel Zoe.
Speaker 2: I mean, I was like, I'm fast and fast, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to talk or anything to love you take
Speaker 2: a picture and run off like I'm not going to talk.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not going to give her my life story,
Speaker 2: like who cares? But she did seem to be stunned, stunned.
Speaker 3: As to what's happened in her life that you're in.
Speaker 2: A headlight that I'm in a VIP room standing, Yeah,
Speaker 2: people are running up to be taken, like but Nana's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well here's something I'd like to just shine
Speaker 3: a light on. Okay, I know the pink Shads, the
Speaker 3: bunkies as it were, are in a stude group. I
Speaker 3: know they do their research. I know they're on these
Speaker 3: interwebs looking around. I would like everyone to do a
Speaker 3: bit of a deep dive on Rachel Zoe's business and
Speaker 3: sort of how she's conducted herself in business. I participated
Speaker 3: in that Box of Zo, but but it was called
Speaker 3: Curator when I got to it.
Speaker 2: Okay, box, and I feel like I also did, like
Speaker 2: briefly and then that like wasn't worth it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I did it during the pandemic
Speaker 3: and nothing brought me Like when that box arrived once
Speaker 3: a month, it was everything to me, Like it was
Speaker 3: you know, when we were starved for that box coming
Speaker 3: with goodies was like my whole life truly. And then
Speaker 3: everything went steeply downhill with the quality and the delivery dates,
Speaker 3: and then they were recycling things that we'd already had
Speaker 3: and there was no new stuff on the website. It
Speaker 3: was bad, like it was like the end of a
Speaker 3: season and like for the holiday season. I was counting
Speaker 3: and so were the other people on because that's the
Speaker 3: crazy thing about getting a box like that is you
Speaker 3: hyper focus on these items that are coming to you.
Speaker 3: They become important in a way that's weird, you know, Yes,
Speaker 3: it is like it's weird. You're like, well, I need
Speaker 3: that bag to go to this party in this part
Speaker 3: like it's like think you are bookmarking it. Yeah so
Speaker 3: I but I ended up bouncing because it just went down.
Speaker 3: But then there's a girl online, she's on TikTok. She
Speaker 3: does a lot of deep dives into business practices. Yes,
Speaker 3: thank you, Yes I know her. Yes, yeah, and she's
Speaker 3: taken down Bethany.
Speaker 2: I believe she has taken down Rachel Zoe more than once.
Speaker 3: Well she did a nice but you know, so yesterday
Speaker 3: I saw that she's given over her company or partnered
Speaker 3: with these guys like the Gordon Brothers or something like that. Okay,
Speaker 3: she just posted it yesterday. Rachel Zoe brand gets snapped
Speaker 3: up by Gordon Brothers.
Speaker 1: The whole brand.
Speaker 3: But let me tell you that I knew, like because
Speaker 3: her I don't. I don't think her fashion line is
Speaker 3: it didn't go like it's so hard to make, but
Speaker 3: like there's no Rachel. There was like a pop up,
Speaker 3: there was a store at the Grove at one point.
Speaker 3: I just don't think that line was too expensive and
Speaker 3: not relatable to people. And then her home good stuff
Speaker 3: and her all that Rachel Zoe content, that's all branding.
Speaker 3: So none of that's real. It's none of that's her product.
Speaker 3: That's her licensing her name that they can slap on
Speaker 3: and she's going, yeah, we'll do this one and this
Speaker 3: one and this one. I don't know how much you
Speaker 3: get for that, you know, but I can say from
Speaker 3: this box experience, you know, she was also doing these
Speaker 3: lavish parties with all of these stunning a white influencers
Speaker 3: and doing these big reveals of the box, and like
Speaker 3: the people paying for it, we're not getting theirs. So
Speaker 3: it was just wild. But your girl, miss Lynch, has
Speaker 3: done some really heavy dives on her, and I think
Speaker 3: that half of the reason she's on this show is
Speaker 3: because she is run her business into the ground.
Speaker 1: She needs the money.
Speaker 3: I think she needs. Yes, I think she needs the
Speaker 3: infusion of interest the money, And I think something like
Speaker 3: this is probably very smart because she does need the
Speaker 3: brand to be taken over. I do think, and I
Speaker 3: think her husband probably was helping her, although I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, he was the business part and she's the creative part.
Speaker 3: Well let's blame Roger helping or hurting. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Is he adjacent to your Bethdy I mean something like that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: very possibly.
Speaker 1: That is very interesting.
Speaker 2: And I think when Meredith posted something about the Rachel
Speaker 2: So thing, I told her I was like, oh, I
Speaker 2: used to get that box, and she was like and
Speaker 2: then it went to shit. I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 2: think I remember being I can't remember it as clearly
Speaker 2: as you can. Yeah, I can't remember getting it and
Speaker 2: then thinking like, I think they sent me this same
Speaker 2: stuff lot last month, and I think I also told
Speaker 2: Meredith that I liked a fat fit fun and she
Speaker 2: was like absolutely.
Speaker 1: Not okay, and so I stopped. Yeah, I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I want to do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love a curated box of something to come
Speaker 3: to me. But you know, I don't know what I
Speaker 3: don't want to get.
Speaker 1: I get stitch fixed.
Speaker 3: My husband does. He's done stitch fix a handful of
Speaker 3: times and it's been fabulous.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine how great it would be like if
Speaker 2: my husband got it, but he doesn't need more closed,
Speaker 2: but he would love it too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Wing is not a big shopper, so they
Speaker 3: have gotten him and it's more. You know, he's a
Speaker 3: little cheap in that area, so it's been nice to have.
Speaker 3: Like you're gonna pick things that someone sent you in
Speaker 3: a box over going to a store and being like
Speaker 3: that's true spensive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because sometimes you put it on and
Speaker 2: you get it and you're like, oh, I love that
Speaker 2: thought about that. But let's go listen of the five
Speaker 2: things stitch Fixed sends me every month.
Speaker 1: Generally, do generally else, generally, Oh okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, generally every so often, I'll keep two things and
Speaker 2: it's fine, it's okay, you just send back four things
Speaker 2: and then you keep the one and wow, I said,
Speaker 2: But then you've got something and you're like, okay. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have thought about that, but it did. They sent
Speaker 2: me this last one. It was like a fleecy sweatshirt
Speaker 2: thing that was like a green that I wouldn't normally pick,
Speaker 2: but it ended up looking good. But it had like
Speaker 2: a big high turtleneck thing, which normally I would be like, no,
Speaker 2: that's going to make me hot.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want it.
Speaker 2: But then I put it on and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: you this doesn't look amazing.
Speaker 3: Damn If I don't look just startling in that looks
Speaker 3: so cute, and this sweatshirt okay, well that is really fun.
Speaker 2: And then I go and look and if it's like
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty dollars, then it's a no okay.
Speaker 2: But if it's like a sixty eight dollars that I'm like,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: Staying with, staying right here, stay right here.
Speaker 1: Let's cute enough. So I do like that, but I do.
Speaker 2: If Merredith is listening, I'm sorry, but I I do
Speaker 2: think something happened. Then she says no to any box.
Speaker 2: No boxes, no boxes, no boxes.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Okay bye.
Speaker 2: Because she says that it's all like a racket and
Speaker 2: it's a markup, and then they get old stuff and whatever.
Speaker 2: She was very very into, especially the makeup boxes, because
Speaker 2: there was another makeup box that came for a while
Speaker 2: and I learned about it from my daughter and I
Speaker 2: started getting it. It's same thing after like a few months.
Speaker 2: You're like so exciting to get this new mascara or whatever,
Speaker 2: and then they start sending you the same things or
Speaker 2: you're like how many how many canners do I need?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 3: You can't go through stuff like that. That's what I
Speaker 3: did like about the Rachel Curator box of Zoe type
Speaker 3: box is that yes, okay, so you would get a
Speaker 3: variety of things. So you would get a facial something,
Speaker 3: some sort of skincare and some sort of bag and
Speaker 3: some sort of costume jewelry and some sort of other thing,
Speaker 3: but then like how many totes can you have and
Speaker 3: how many pretty jewelry trays are you gonna use? And
Speaker 3: so it did get repetitive in that way. But I
Speaker 3: thought the skincare by and large was like excellent until
Speaker 3: it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then something happened. Well, that's interesting that she
Speaker 2: got bought.
Speaker 3: I actually feel like this is a very good thing
Speaker 3: for her because I think she does have a brand
Speaker 3: name and this. I also love looking at her. I
Speaker 3: love what she puts together. I find it, you know,
Speaker 3: although she has like a lot of it looks similar.
Speaker 3: I do find her style to be like interesting, Like
Speaker 3: I like the necklaces. I like what she puts together.
Speaker 3: And Bravo, she was in that white suit right that
Speaker 3: just looks so expensive and like amazing. I just I'm
Speaker 3: interested to see what she puts together on this show.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm interested.
Speaker 2: I liked her going to Kathy Hilton's house and being like, no, no, check, no, no,
Speaker 2: You've got to carry this bag. I know that it's
Speaker 2: an extra twenty seven pounds of leather. You're going to
Speaker 2: have to carry this because this is the bag you
Speaker 2: carry when you're.
Speaker 3: And that's that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like I have my grocery bag that I carry.
Speaker 3: Katy She's like, I'm Kathy Hilton.
Speaker 2: She's like, I just carry that bag for moms, and
Speaker 2: that's my bag. Say I pulled out of California reference Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: so Salt Lake City. I want to talk about Meredith
Speaker 2: crying and Greece for no reason. And I really liked that.
Speaker 2: All the other women are like, who cares that we're
Speaker 2: in Greece on Mother's Day? We knew we would be
Speaker 2: here on Mother's Day and we all agreed to it.
Speaker 2: When we agreed to do the filming, we all knew
Speaker 2: it was going to be Mother's Day. We all agreed
Speaker 2: to it, and I love it. The rest of them
Speaker 2: are like, fuck those kids, Like who can Greece the
Speaker 2: Mother's Day? They can call me. It's about me, It's
Speaker 2: not about them. Is like, I'm just not going to
Speaker 2: go doctor Brooks. I was like, don't you have four kids?
Speaker 2: You only care about Brooks?
Speaker 3: Well, there's that. I mean, I think she was in
Speaker 3: such a drop you know from all I love that
Speaker 3: you have that. I think it was I the one
Speaker 3: who shared that with you, or do you know you
Speaker 3: shared it with me? Oh yeah, yeah, I shared it
Speaker 3: with you. I like me about but it's good to see.
Speaker 1: And then we talked about it and then they said me.
Speaker 3: And then they sent and then they sent me because
Speaker 3: of your chef. Yeah, thank you, thank you. I wonder
Speaker 3: if we're gonna we're not getting a box of Zo's
Speaker 3: that much, I know after this, but I've opened to
Speaker 3: a box if anyone want says any something. But I
Speaker 3: think that call. I think she was just pummeled by
Speaker 3: Heather and Company for a couple of days in a row,
Speaker 3: and she just wanted to talk to her kid like.
Speaker 3: So I don't know, had she'd been in better graces
Speaker 3: with everyone up until that point, I don't know if
Speaker 3: that call from Brooks would have been as meaningful. But
Speaker 3: I think she just needed, like to touch base with
Speaker 3: someone who loved her.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I kind of understood it.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't understand it at all. And then they're at
Speaker 2: that cookie thing and the man comes over. He's like,
Speaker 2: are you okay?
Speaker 3: Amazing? That was amazing. He was like, I want to
Speaker 3: go to Greece. A I need to go to Greece.
Speaker 3: After that episode, it was.
Speaker 1: Stunning, stunning. Every view was better than Oh.
Speaker 3: My god, every view. The water, the food looked insane.
Speaker 2: Food, and they were like I loved how Agi was like,
Speaker 2: they're eating lunch and she was let's talk about dinner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's what I wanted to talk about, like, because
Speaker 3: everything looks so fresh. It looks like you're not going
Speaker 3: to gain a pound. You're walking everywhere. I'm not worried
Speaker 3: about like there's no pounds being gained on that trip.
Speaker 2: You're you're walking away less like it's literally the Mediterranean diet.
Speaker 3: Literally the Mediterranean diet.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 3: And the shops just looked amazing, Like I wanted to
Speaker 3: be in those little white shops with the blue accents everywhere,
Speaker 3: and it just was a great trip. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: so happy to be on this trip.
Speaker 2: You know, they were just on that other trip, was
Speaker 2: thinking about that today.
Speaker 1: They were in that island on that boat.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're right. Yeah, that was great too, Okay,
Speaker 3: And you know what, Saltic City deserves it because they
Speaker 3: at one point could not get out of Salt Lake City.
Speaker 1: They were like, we're going to Saint George.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you know what they deserve Greece, and they
Speaker 3: deserve to be on that yacht because they've earned it.
Speaker 3: A and B they could. They were at that Trixie motel,
Speaker 3: which was bleak love tricksy to death, but you know,
Speaker 3: and then they.
Speaker 1: They always going by sprinter vand yeah.
Speaker 3: Never, we're never going up. We're just like going over,
Speaker 3: and so it was nice. It was really nice for
Speaker 3: them to get up and out. So that's why it
Speaker 3: was kind of hard. I think Meredith was like bumming
Speaker 3: us out, and I'm like, girl, your energy is a
Speaker 3: black hole. You're sucking me down into it. Please look
Speaker 3: at the natural surroundings and gather yourself.
Speaker 2: Well, they all kept going, none of us are going
Speaker 2: to be upset. Look around. We're in Greece. And I
Speaker 2: loved how light and airy Whitney has been on this trip.
Speaker 1: She has been just a joy.
Speaker 2: When she pretended to be a shot put and fling
Speaker 2: her purse and then Heather picks up, it was like gold.
Speaker 3: I was like, this is like, oh I broke it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is amazing.
Speaker 2: And I liked how Brittany, once again coming with the
Speaker 2: ridiculousness is just what we need, and her saying she
Speaker 2: has trademarked high body count hair even though that's not
Speaker 2: even a phrase she made up or Angie made up.
Speaker 3: And is that a real phrase Outside of the show.
Speaker 2: I've heard high body count, this, high body count that,
Speaker 2: so I'm sure high body count hair has been out.
Speaker 3: There, but I think that I think that I don't
Speaker 3: give that to Angree. I don't think high body count
Speaker 3: hair has been out there before.
Speaker 2: Okay, well she said, she goes, I didn't even make
Speaker 2: it up. Oh she said that either way, it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter because Britney jumped on it, and I think it
Speaker 2: was like, you're just sorry you forgot to trademark it.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to get those T shirts like, Okay.
Speaker 3: Well, you thirsty little little menace to society.
Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious, and then I loved how
Speaker 2: Whitney stood up and goes, Okay, we're gonna squash this
Speaker 2: and we're not gonna talk about it anymore because look
Speaker 2: where we are.
Speaker 1: I'm just so happy about it. And Meredith.
Speaker 2: The Britney Angie thing over high body count here did
Speaker 2: lift Meredith's spirit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyally did.
Speaker 2: She got happier because now Brittany did another ridiculous thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, it gave everyone a lift except for Angie. It
Speaker 3: gave everyone else a lift. When Yeah, when Meredith I
Speaker 3: came out in her little swimsuit cover up, sich and
Speaker 3: she was ready to have a nice time in the pool.
Speaker 3: I said praise you Jesus, because I couldn't take any
Speaker 3: more of her sad, sack energy. I was like, I
Speaker 3: get why you feel ganged up on, you have been,
Speaker 3: but at this point, like can we have some fun
Speaker 3: in Greece or yeah, they have a great day, even
Speaker 3: Mary Cosby just oh Mary's doing great.
Speaker 1: Mary, She's having a blast.
Speaker 3: I'm like, who were you before? To me? Like, Mary is.
Speaker 1: So like why was she like that before? And now
Speaker 1: she's so different?
Speaker 3: I listen. What I do think about Mary is that
Speaker 3: what she says, she stands by when she's like, you
Speaker 3: need to if you don't like something, say it. You
Speaker 3: know you have a problem with someone, say it to
Speaker 3: their face. I'm like, when Mary's not happy, she says it,
Speaker 3: we are just I think that she didn't care. It
Speaker 3: was also Genshaw times and her and Jen had beef.
Speaker 3: I think she didn't. I think Jenshaw was probably a
Speaker 3: big reason why she was not comfortable in the group,
Speaker 3: and like you know, she just her husband grandfather isn't
Speaker 3: there anymore, which I think lightens the load. You know,
Speaker 3: it's hard to be on there with your husband grandfather
Speaker 3: and like it's nice that he is off. I think
Speaker 3: she's freed up by that.
Speaker 1: I think he just fully lives in Florida. And she's like, great,
Speaker 1: great here, yeah.
Speaker 3: No problem. I mean that's a weight off your shoulders.
Speaker 3: You know that she doesn't have to.
Speaker 1: Like deal with him and his weirdness.
Speaker 3: And be in the house and avoid him. I mean, right,
Speaker 3: So I think she has genuinely taken some time to
Speaker 3: settle in with the gang. But god, she is the breeziest,
Speaker 3: most rational, most hilarious, Like, yeah, square face is what
Speaker 3: did she say?
Speaker 1: No, you're saying that, you know.
Speaker 2: Or it's just like if you have a hat that
Speaker 2: can wear if you can wear a bucket hat, right,
Speaker 2: then you have certain kinds. Then you have bucket face.
Speaker 2: You have bucket face. But but she's like, look at me,
Speaker 2: look at me, look at me. Yes, bucket no, bucket yes,
Speaker 2: bucket no. No, Yeah, you can't wear a bucket. She
Speaker 2: was like, because my face is this, and I can't
Speaker 2: wear a bucket. She can't wear a bucket?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know this. This is hard to
Speaker 3: wear a bucket. I think buckets are hard in general.
Speaker 3: You know, I think I always gravitate towards a bucket
Speaker 3: because they do, like it, But the truth and reality
Speaker 3: of a bucket is that it's really hard to pull off.
Speaker 2: I gravitate towards a bucket, but it does not look
Speaker 2: good on me. And I haven't learned my lesson. I
Speaker 2: keep getting them and they're not wearing them.
Speaker 3: And so here we are. It's like, this is what
Speaker 3: Mary's trying to communicate out. It's PSA.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, yes, I listen. I'm fascinated. Now.
Speaker 2: Am I going to cover that TLC documentary about her
Speaker 2: and interview the director?
Speaker 1: Yes, of course I.
Speaker 3: Am, obviously I am it will you're a professional.
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta see all the sides of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is it going to be great?
Speaker 3: Are we going to learn that? It's just, you know, terrible.
Speaker 2: I'm going to have the streamers and I'm going to
Speaker 2: watch it tonight actually, and I'll I'll send you some
Speaker 2: text to let you know what I've learned.
Speaker 3: When the organization has been the leadership has been passed
Speaker 3: down from grandmother to granddaughter, and then the leadership has
Speaker 3: also passed down the congregation and the husband to the granddaughter,
Speaker 3: we've got problems, like we don't even have to look
Speaker 3: any further. We've got major issues going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen some clips and it's like we were
Speaker 2: locked in and not allowed to leave until we gave
Speaker 2: certain amounts of money and things like that.
Speaker 1: That's not good. So we I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna watch it with the partner of mind and
Speaker 2: a love for Mary going in trus.
Speaker 3: Remember that she's also a victim, that's right. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: it has to remember that she was victimized at a
Speaker 3: very right How old was she when she was put
Speaker 3: into this position?
Speaker 1: In her twenties?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so that's bizarre, it is, And so I
Speaker 3: just want to maintain that as we have to say
Speaker 3: goodbye to Mary.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'll let you know. I'll give you. I'll
Speaker 1: give you.
Speaker 3: Please tell me, just give me like this, Mary still
Speaker 3: with us or got to let her go?
Speaker 1: Yes, right, I want to say that.
Speaker 2: The only thing I have to say really quickly about
Speaker 2: Potomac this week is so, I think it was about
Speaker 2: two weeks ago we had Wendy's mom on talking about
Speaker 2: how great it was that Wendy was so rich.
Speaker 1: Look at my bag, look at my belt.
Speaker 2: Wendy so rich, Wendy can do it all, Wendy can
Speaker 2: buy it all that wasn't great. And then this week
Speaker 2: on this latest episode, she and I want to say Todd,
Speaker 2: just not Todd Eddie. Wendy and Eddie were talking about
Speaker 2: how expensive the renovation is and how she's just not
Speaker 2: looking at the bills because you know, once you get
Speaker 2: over one hundred and fifty k, like what does it
Speaker 2: really matter? And not relatable and also not great for
Speaker 2: their court case.
Speaker 3: Oh, very bad. Also, let's not forget that they that
Speaker 3: sort of rattled me to the core was her little
Speaker 3: daughter saying she had four phones.
Speaker 1: I miss that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. At the little party that Wendy and Giselle put together,
Speaker 3: her daughter was like, I have four phones.
Speaker 1: Okay three of them.
Speaker 3: Fisher Price, I felt we were with like I don't
Speaker 3: exactly I felt we were with phone. And I perceive
Speaker 3: this of every Housewife scandal that we have engaged with,
Speaker 3: and we've done a lot. We've been doing a lot
Speaker 3: of heavy lifting in our time.
Speaker 1: We've talked about two on this show just today.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, this is the biggest thinker. I can't square
Speaker 3: my mind around Wendy and Eddie, yeah doing this. I
Speaker 3: just find them to be very good parents. I think
Speaker 3: they are very reasonable people. I love them together. I
Speaker 3: love Eddie. I just think that do I think? Could
Speaker 3: I see like, okay, Wendy has spent too much on
Speaker 3: clothing and surgeries, yes, but this I just think she's
Speaker 3: too smart for like, I don't I can't get it right,
Speaker 3: and I can't get it right that one of them
Speaker 3: wouldn't stop the other one.
Speaker 1: I can't get it right that Eddie would put things
Speaker 1: in writing as a lawyer.
Speaker 3: Is he a lawyer?
Speaker 1: He is a lawyer.
Speaker 2: To email her and say, hey, go in the closet
Speaker 2: and find some other stuff to stupid.
Speaker 1: He is a lawyer. She's a professor.
Speaker 2: She's a public policy politics professor, and he's a lawyer.
Speaker 3: Well that's the other thing, is like you're racking up
Speaker 3: these bills and you seem to keep shedding jobs like
Speaker 3: you don't have. You're not a professor anymore.
Speaker 1: You are.
Speaker 3: I don't see you on MSNBC. You. I don't know
Speaker 3: what's happening with your four degrees. You keep shedding the
Speaker 3: very prestigious, good paying jobs that they're not you know,
Speaker 3: over the top money, but they're good money.
Speaker 1: That yeah you have.
Speaker 3: You know, you're a professor. So she just may have
Speaker 3: lost her mind on this stuff and lost her way.
Speaker 3: But it is, it confuses me to no end. I
Speaker 3: can't figure it out.
Speaker 1: I agree, I don't get it at all. Get it.
Speaker 2: And then the other point on potomach this week that
Speaker 2: I wanted to discuss was everybody just hates Stacy and
Speaker 2: it's starting to get hard.
Speaker 1: It's starting to get rough. Now.
Speaker 2: I do know that a cab or Amy, you did
Speaker 2: a little spoof on Stacy and it was great. I
Speaker 2: didn't know that I needed it, but I needed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Emily Jersus and I we were going to do
Speaker 3: an auction for Amy, Like we're throwing around some ideas
Speaker 3: for her products to do like interstitials in the show,
Speaker 3: and I was like, why don't we do something with
Speaker 3: the qvs as QBC hosts like Stacy, and so we
Speaker 3: just and then Emily made those brilliant shirts that were
Speaker 3: a knockoff of like Stacy's crazy Holloway. I mean, I
Speaker 3: live for her QBC contract.
Speaker 2: You guys just looked up Stacy Rush on QBC and yeah,
Speaker 2: things will pop up and it's hilarious. Now Listen, she's
Speaker 2: so different than any other QVC hosts.
Speaker 1: They all do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she was very good at it, very good.
Speaker 2: So she knows she's got a job to fall back
Speaker 2: on if this falls through.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and that's a nice job. She is great
Speaker 3: at it. That is who she is at her core,
Speaker 3: which is like I can sell you anything, it doesn't
Speaker 3: need to be the truth. And I think that's a
Speaker 3: place where she lives. It's like I will things better
Speaker 3: than they are and I will sell anything and try
Speaker 3: to stop me. It's like it's in her DNA. I
Speaker 3: do love that Wendy loves Stacy. Stacy has brought out
Speaker 3: a really cute color in Wendy. In my opinion, like
Speaker 3: Wendy's more giggly and fun around Stacy because they think
Speaker 3: she just gets a kick out of her.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you gotta have one Ally on the show.
Speaker 2: You gotta have one Ally.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean she's her Ally and she's stealing her idea.
Speaker 3: So you know where are I.
Speaker 2: I will be interested to see at the end of
Speaker 2: the season when they roll Caaren out for the interview
Speaker 2: with Andy. Now, we roll her out, we rolled her out,
Speaker 2: and we will see, we will see. We have seen
Speaker 2: rather a clip of her saying, you know, basically admitting
Speaker 2: you know she had a drinking problem, which right, We've
Speaker 2: been trying to get her to say for like five years.
Speaker 2: Next stop, she hannova door, but like, you know, it's
Speaker 2: Tama judge. Like some people might just need to admit
Speaker 2: they have a little bit of Meredith Mark, Meredith Marks.
Speaker 2: Now we don't know, we don't know. And another thing,
Speaker 2: I wonder if Meredith was in a bad mood on
Speaker 2: this trip because she's unable to reach for what normally
Speaker 2: would make her feel better, because she's trying to hold
Speaker 2: it together yea, and not give them any more AMMO
Speaker 2: against her.
Speaker 3: I think that's not wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's I will tell you that that. At the
Speaker 2: beginning of this season, more than once when Meredith drove
Speaker 2: up more than once somebody comment, wow, Meredith, you're driving,
Speaker 2: and another time like, look at you driving a car.
Speaker 3: Oh I didn't catch that.
Speaker 2: Some people are like, oh, it's because she's got this
Speaker 2: deal with like Lexus or whatever, because she's like, oh,
Speaker 2: I've got a cooler in the back, you know, for
Speaker 2: my caviar. But I said to somebody, I think it
Speaker 2: was Corey Carly. I said this other podcasters, I said,
Speaker 2: what do you think that's about? And Carly said maybe
Speaker 2: she doesn't have a license, or maybe she doesn't drive
Speaker 2: because of the medication she takes, or but they really
Speaker 2: acted like they've never seen her drive a vehicle.
Speaker 1: So I found that interesting too. Look at you driving?
Speaker 3: Look at that? Could you walk in a straight line?
Speaker 3: Look at you?
Speaker 2: And every episode, every episode, I can't make head door
Speaker 2: tails of what she did to her face because she
Speaker 2: just looks like she's fourteen years old.
Speaker 3: You'll never understand it because she goes, she vacillates from
Speaker 3: looking twenty one to fifty eight, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Or but you can't. It can change within a sentence,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, her body in that freaking jean
Speaker 3: skirt and white tank insane. She looked insane her But
Speaker 3: then and then it's we got the filters that she'll
Speaker 3: put a she will filter her life away in the
Speaker 3: on Instagram. I mean, she filters her life away.
Speaker 2: She makes her face a lot more circular, like tagery line.
Speaker 3: Like feetus face. It is so crazy high school, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, So it's so hard. And I don't know
Speaker 3: if she's filtering like on her drugs or not, because
Speaker 3: it's just not regular. You know, she's not doing a
Speaker 3: dusting I.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think that I might be onto something,
Speaker 2: that she might be in a bad mood because she's like,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to bring my happy pills with me
Speaker 2: because that got me in trouble last time.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give them any more, ammo.
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, she does need them.
Speaker 1: You guys. Speaking of things that we do to make
Speaker 1: her face look better.
Speaker 2: Deanna has a wonderful podcast and substack called how to
Speaker 2: Be less Old.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: You can go to how to Be less Old and
Speaker 2: you could find out about the latest phrases that the
Speaker 2: kids are saying. You could find out about should we
Speaker 2: still be wearing wide light jeans? You should find out
Speaker 2: about a face laser. The other day I sent Deanna, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a face laser and said do I need this? And
Speaker 2: Deanna said, I don't know her, so I didn't get it.
Speaker 2: You can find out everything over there, So tell everybody
Speaker 2: what's happening.
Speaker 1: Over there right now?
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, ovens such a good time. How tobe less
Speaker 3: old dot substack dot com for our written content, and
Speaker 3: we put our we put our podcast episodes up there.
Speaker 3: Emily Foster and I we will get down to it.
Speaker 3: We do the investigating. We recently did a post on
Speaker 3: like the most popular songs from Spotify from the ages
Speaker 3: like thirteen to eighteen, what worldwide kids are listening to? Okay,
Speaker 3: because when we took a look at the list, we
Speaker 3: were like, we don't know a lot of things, like
Speaker 3: you know that, okay, everything, but like this is like
Speaker 3: the top five artists and you know some of them,
Speaker 3: of course we knew, but then a lot of songs
Speaker 3: that do. So we put together an app, a teaser,
Speaker 3: a sampler, pooh poop platter for people to click through listen.
Speaker 3: There's just stuff that's great that like just how would
Speaker 3: it get on our radar?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: And so it's good to know. Did you know that?
Speaker 3: Like we'll tackle. We tackled a rumor that I'm now
Speaker 3: seeing out in articles about Timothy Schalla May's rapper persona.
Speaker 1: I know that headline.
Speaker 2: I saw a headline about that, So tell me what
Speaker 2: it is because I love.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: How do you say?
Speaker 3: Why do you say?
Speaker 1: I don't know? I think Ingrid's daughters started saying that.
Speaker 3: That I fee his next rapper name, but SD kid,
Speaker 3: it's like speculated and Emily I will give her credit,
Speaker 3: got on this a while ago and I didn't know
Speaker 3: what she was talking about at first, but then I
Speaker 3: started looking into it and read her post, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh shit, I think that is possibly Timothy Chelly h
Speaker 3: moonlighting as this really popular rapper that his eyes. It's
Speaker 3: s STI Kid is the name of the rappers. So
Speaker 3: you know, these are the things we'll get you there
Speaker 3: before these headlines hit, and you're going to feel in
Speaker 3: the know. You're going to feel educated, You're going to
Speaker 3: feel like, Okay, I had oh my god, I'm going
Speaker 3: to read this because it was so sweet. We had
Speaker 3: a new comment on our podcast, you know, little rating
Speaker 3: and review you, and it said, hold on, I'm just
Speaker 3: going to read it real.
Speaker 1: Quick, starting a second.
Speaker 3: But you know what, I think he can do it.
Speaker 3: To be honest, we've.
Speaker 1: Seen him wrap on sorry not live.
Speaker 3: I think he's doing it so like it's already happening
Speaker 3: and he's having fun.
Speaker 1: Okay, good.
Speaker 3: So this review said great pod. Mary Paine from Pink
Speaker 3: Shade was talking about this podcast recently. Great referral. I
Speaker 3: have already learned so much from these two. It is
Speaker 3: wonderful to know what's going on around us and not
Speaker 3: to be left out, forgotten or ignored that it is
Speaker 3: from Lolo one three, four, one nine, and I just thought, God,
Speaker 3: if that is not exactly what we're trying to be
Speaker 3: up to. So I so appreciated that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you guys are funny, So you're not over
Speaker 2: there like being too serious about.
Speaker 3: Yoh, we're having a nice time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, that's great.
Speaker 2: And I do like sometimes you're like, listen, this is
Speaker 2: what we're told we're supposed to wear, but this is.
Speaker 1: What we want to wear.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know you have.
Speaker 1: And I know that.
Speaker 2: Socks with Tinnis shoes is controversial, but I'm still doing it.
Speaker 1: I can't wear a no show sock. I can't.
Speaker 3: No, you shouldn't know. None of the kids are wearing
Speaker 3: no show Mary. But okay, no, no, no, no, but.
Speaker 2: I can't wear a I can't wear like what we
Speaker 2: used to call back in my day, a tennis sock.
Speaker 2: You can't wear You're not supposed to wear that either.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to wear no socks. No, okay, Oh it's different.
Speaker 3: You can't wear socks, okay, you can't wear no show socks, okay,
Speaker 3: because I don't They want show, okay, they want to
Speaker 3: see a sock. They think it's disgusting to have ankles presented,
Speaker 3: so they don't like it. Like and you'll when you
Speaker 3: look around and you look at a Halle Bieber like
Speaker 3: off duty, she's gonna have a visible sock. Like they don't.
Speaker 3: We are generation. We don't like that. It's not comfortable
Speaker 3: to wear a no show. We just were beaten into
Speaker 3: submission thinking we had to elongate the leg with a
Speaker 3: no show.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, but the youths.
Speaker 3: Do not like a no show. They think it's lame.
Speaker 2: But don't they think they also like like a like
Speaker 2: a like a chunky sock or you know, and I'm
Speaker 2: still sticking with like my low rise like tennis socks
Speaker 2: that just hit right above my tennis shoe and I
Speaker 2: know that's not cool.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that might be a problem. That might be
Speaker 3: a problem.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do.
Speaker 3: They're going to appreciate that more, I believe, rather than
Speaker 3: like to see some material will probably provide them with
Speaker 3: a little bit of comfort. But they don't want to
Speaker 3: see like bare ankle. I just don't want to see it.
Speaker 3: They don't want to see it.
Speaker 1: But listen. Unlike Lisa Barlow, I have good ankles. I
Speaker 1: want to show.
Speaker 3: Them, okay, flex flex flex.
Speaker 2: When you have only a couple of things on your
Speaker 2: body at this age that you want to show in
Speaker 2: your ankle is one of them.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, and if they hate our ankles when
Speaker 3: they're out, I have found, you know, I have a
Speaker 3: high arch. I'm in an orthotic I already, you know
Speaker 3: I'm already and I don't have nice ankles, so I
Speaker 3: enjoy I've leaned into a thicker sock, a pull up sock.
Speaker 3: I said, thank you Jesus, and I'm out here feeling
Speaker 3: dare I say quite comfortable?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna look into I have to go look
Speaker 2: more into the sock situation. These are things that I
Speaker 2: think are important and that that that plagued me.
Speaker 1: And this is what you talk about.
Speaker 3: And the other thing is like it's okay, like teenagers
Speaker 3: should not look over at us and be like you're cool,
Speaker 3: Like it's not, we're not. You know, we're gonna think
Speaker 3: that so we don't have to. It's the knowing. It's
Speaker 3: knowing is the power. And then when you choose to
Speaker 3: flaunt your ankles in front of a couple of ne'er
Speaker 3: do well youngsters. And you you you feel confident to
Speaker 3: say that I'm choosing my choice and I'm wagging my
Speaker 3: ankles in your face and choke on it. Choke on it.
Speaker 3: You know you stand in your truth?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is what you get over there, guys.
Speaker 2: And then tell everybody, of course, about your other business,
Speaker 2: which is the Montage Queen.
Speaker 3: Montage Queen dot com. I feel I've extended before, but
Speaker 3: if I will remind anyone that if you mentioned pink shade,
Speaker 3: I'm happy to give you five percent off any of
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Speaker 3: So I do you know everything from birthdays to I
Speaker 3: do traditional montages and then I do uh a package,
Speaker 3: the smaller package, which is prompt related. So like if
Speaker 3: you had someone you wanted to celebrate, we would customize
Speaker 3: a few prompts for them and then set something up
Speaker 3: for people to send in their their content and I
Speaker 3: put it together and it's so special. So if you're
Speaker 3: doing like a bar Mitsva bat Mitz or something along
Speaker 3: those lines, I'd be more like a classic montage. And
Speaker 3: then you know you or just reach out to me
Speaker 3: if you have something you want to work on and
Speaker 3: I'm happy to discuss.
Speaker 2: But look it up because like if you ever have
Speaker 2: ideas like Okay, it's so and so's fiftieth birthday, or
Speaker 2: this is like something special, then go look at Diana's
Speaker 2: website website, because there's all sorts of ideas there, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: somebody did for my sister's wedding, which was like thirty
Speaker 2: years ago. Literally like somebody with the microphone would go
Speaker 2: up and ask questions and then somebody put it all
Speaker 2: together and I still.
Speaker 1: Have it now. People at the wedding saying like funny things.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: You don't know how many times people reach back out
Speaker 3: to me and they're like, you know, I got this
Speaker 3: from my mom. She watches it all the time. I mean,
Speaker 3: you just nothing. We have all this content, you know,
Speaker 3: but until it's put together, until you take like pictures,
Speaker 3: videos and music and like put something special together, it's
Speaker 3: only so meaningful because it's just sitting in a library,
Speaker 3: you know. So and then the it's called the party
Speaker 3: line where people submit that is also just like you're
Speaker 3: sharing things right to someone that we just don't do
Speaker 3: a lot in life, you know, and when you receive it,
Speaker 3: it's like it's like a love bomb. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah really with a good kind good oh yeah happy
Speaker 3: yes yeah, not like a.
Speaker 1: Love locking like Alloi and Teresa kind.
Speaker 3: Right, you know, sometimes maybe it is maybe it's too much,
Speaker 3: but yeah, so twenty twenty six guys, get in so
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, something else, like everybody has left their spirits
Speaker 2: and their moods and.
Speaker 3: Yeah things I have. I feel like I have a
Speaker 3: I think I think it's fair to say I have
Speaker 3: like one hundred percent satisfaction, right of course, so you know,
Speaker 3: not you know what I mean, Like I will say
Speaker 3: that I if you look in I'm the one that's it.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: So you guys, if you reach out to Dianna, make
Speaker 2: sure to mention Pink Shange, You'll give you a little discount.
Speaker 1: And that's you know, you know me, I love a bargain.
Speaker 3: Some all about it, I mean.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you can follow Dianna HG B l O
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Speaker 2: she also she's Diana M. Chang on Instagram and please
Speaker 2: follow me at Pink Shade Pod and I will be
Speaker 2: back guys this weekend with Kimberly for ninety Day the
Speaker 2: other way, and guys.
Speaker 1: Hope you're surviving the holidays. That's what I'm hoping for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, bye bye.
Speaker 1: This is fun.