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Speaker 1: And we see premiums on that right now. So you're

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talking about forty percent, We'll sell ninety percent silver right

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now because it's also below spot on the wholesale market

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where we can get it. So it's as cheap as

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you can buy silver versus anything else, even just modern

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rounds and bars. And there are times when it does

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have a high premium, so like after COVID there was

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such a high demand for silver and such a shortage

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of supply on the market that we were getting twenty

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to thirty percent premiums for the ninety percent. So if

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it's dirt cheap like right now, buy it.

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Speaker 3: Ever, and welcome you are listening to and watching the

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Precious Metals and Michael yes, We've been having this conversation

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for a while, saying that things like silver is a

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coiled spring or a jack in the box, and it's

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going to pop. And I've been saying this for years

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and years because we're dealing with a sixty year plus

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pattern of suppression and silver.

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Speaker 4: Some would argue it goes back.

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Speaker 3: Even to the late eighteen hundreds, the demonetization of silver

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in terms of the silver gold standard.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to be so out there, but i

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will tell you.

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Speaker 3: I remember in nineteen sixty five, I was a little kid,

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my brother coming in the kitchen and dropping the new

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quarters as we call them affectionately in our community, slugs,

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and then the old ones. And mind you, I'm seven

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years old, eight years old. Here it drops the old

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silver ones, the ninety percent, and they like rang out,

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and the slugs just were like this dead thump on

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the floor.

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Speaker 4: And I didn't know that he was educating me.

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Speaker 3: He didn't educate himself, but he was kind enough to

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educate me about what real money was.

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Speaker 4: And here we are.

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Speaker 3: Silver is going to be any day now, probably put

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on the US government's critical Minerals list. It's trading now

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closed last Friday, at forty three bucks. Now it's hair's

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breadth from forty four. The circles I travel in, they're

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saying fifty and then one hundred. Martin Armstrong said, fifty.

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No problems, seventy five. I see triple digits. I don't

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want to see it happen in three weeks because that's

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a parabolic move that isn't sustainable.

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Speaker 4: But over the next six months, what are you seeing.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a good point, Carrie. Yeah, thanks for having

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me out again. I appreciate being here. I know I've

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read your articles, gosh, going back more than ten years,

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maybe when I first heard about you.

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Speaker 3: In so you're you're really scaring the hell out of

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me now ten years.

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, you've been sounding the alarm for a

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while and it's it's happened, and you know, we have

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a mclvany too, and it's happened in the way we've

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you know, thought it would. It's just going to know

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exactly when it would happen. But at this point, you know, gosh,

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when I first came on your show, whenever it was

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a year or two ago, we were probably at you know,

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twenty eight thirty dollars silver Now We're at forty three

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dollars silver, and that's a big move percentage wise, but

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beyond fifty. And so this is one of those things

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where every year, the last number of years, there's someone

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has been saying, we're going to get to fifty dollars

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silver by the end of the year, and I always

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been like, probably, probably not this year. The technicals have

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a long way to go. We've got we've got to

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really push through some resistance levels. Now we're at a

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point where you probably could reasonably say we're going to

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be at fifty by the end of the year. I mean,

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now that we're past thirty five it was a big ceiling.

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and it's moving up pretty quick, you know, sometimes a

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dollar a day. Yeah, we could actually get to fifty

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strong that I don't think we're going to give a

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lot of resistance. I have clients calling me saying, oh,

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it's going to have a big drop again, let me

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sell before that happens, And I'm like, not this time.

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of a hiccup and set a big new high because gold.

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it's twenty eleven highs. You know, it got to nineteen

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hundred and change back in twenty eleven. It is pushed

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well beyond it's twenty eleven highs and set a new high.

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Silver it's not just going to stop it it's twenty

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eleven high at fifty, it's gonna go well beyond because

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it'll catch up the gold gold. Silver always does the

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same thing as gold does. It's not going to get

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left behind. It would be the first time ever if

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it didn't. So it's gonna go well beyond it's twenty

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eleven high, maybe go to sixty or eighty from here

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before having any meaningful pause or correction. It's still go

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Speaker 4: I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: It'll go to trip digits ultimately. But next yeah, we

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see fifty by the end of the year, no problem,

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and then the next year if it sets a big

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new high like gold has no problem. That's just that's

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what the price start is telling us that it's going

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to do. We just have to pay attention and just.

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Speaker 4: A little anecdote.

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Speaker 3: A month ago, I was just buying up forty percent

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to Kennedy's below mill value on eBay, and it was

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like I'd look after Friday, after the close when it

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went up big, and look for people that had existing

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listings on there. It's problematical sometimes with the eBay's rules

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to actually change your price in the middle of an auction,

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so they try to get there's other techniques that he's best,

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best off or whatever. But I was buying it's sometimes

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five and ten cents below. And I talked to some

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not really a market expert. He's an expert in product,

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but not market and he said, oh, forty percent is garbage.

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blah blah. And I said, name withheld by you out

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of respect for him, because I don't want to say

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anything negative about him.

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Speaker 4: I said, hey, man.

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Speaker 3: Do you really think silver is not going to go

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into shortage? We're in deficit now and I said, yeah, yeah,

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time silver went into deficit? To those forty percent Kennedys,

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they were trading below melt, and then afterwards they're trading

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fifteen to twenty percent above melt. And I still have

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one thousand dollars bag of them that I bought in

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like two thousand and nine when silver was eight dollars

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an ounce. And for stuff that's totally undesirable, it's worth

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a lot of money right now. And don't you think

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that's going to happen again? No, no, oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: If we get to one hundred dollars over, someone will

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Speaker 4: It'll be two.

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Speaker 3: You'll take a two or three percent HAIRCUTA. Yeah, it's

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a going to trade over milt.

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Speaker 1: And we and we see premiums on that right now.

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percent silver right now because it's also below spot on

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the wholesale market where we can get it. So it's

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as cheap as you can buy silver versus anything else,

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even just modern rounds and bars. And there are times

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when it does have a high premium. So like after COVID,

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there was such a high demand for silver and such

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a shortage of supply on the market that we were

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getting twenty to thirty percent premiums for the ninety percent.

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Speaker 4: Up, great.

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Speaker 1: If we get a premium because of the supply and

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demand and you get extra twenty percent, even better, and

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or just extra cash. So yeah, absolutely buy up that

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Why you can whatever has a low premium right now

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because price is not waiting for us. Our price is

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Speaker 3: You can't buy it under melt on eBay anymore. That

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lab that's always an anomalist thing that tells me that

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the price is going higher, you know. And we still

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have lots of room for compaction, contraction compaction of the

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goal to silver ratio, which is still historically you know,

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when it hit one hundred and eight, like that was

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the moment. And look, I said this, and I actually

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have an article. You can check all my archives. Everything

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at it. But on my sub stack, I think it

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was around May twenty something silver hit thirty two bucks.

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I said, this is the moment it broke thirty two

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fifty technical resistance. It's going byer buy. You know, I'm buying.

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I don't tell people what to do. I'm not a

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financial advisor, but even if I was, I wouldn't pretend

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to say that I know everything. Point is when you

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see a chart like you see for silver, and what's

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been happening here, Yeah, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, oh yeah, this is this is crazy. Yeah and

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this yeah, this is this is going to go this

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time for sure, Like just the technical price chart, like

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levels from you know, twenty twelve that we broke through

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back in June, you know, once it got through kind

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of the thirty six thirty seven area. You know, we

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have momentum from different newsletters like Michael Oliver's letter newsletter

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that we're blowing through. We're making these bullflags on the

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price chart and they're going up above that and it

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keeps pushing higher. I mean, this is this is just

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a breakout acceleration trend by any technical definition. It's just

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classic textbook and it's not topping, it's not too high.

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bull market looks like. This is what the beginning of

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a bull market looks like. And it's you know, price

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is telling us it's going higher and it's just making

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a nice clean pattern, has a huge basing pattern here

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from the last three four years that it can launch

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off of huge cup and handle pattern going all the

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way back to the previous size that can take it

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much higher. I mean, everything looks so good for silver,

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you'd be crazy not to buy it, even even while

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it's shooting up higher, even you know, you know it's

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forty one now it's just the other day. Now it's

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forty three, and it's like, just don't wait for it,

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because it's not going to matter. It's not going to

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matter at this point when it's seventy or eighty.

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Speaker 4: Yep. Exactly. Could not agree with you more here.

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Speaker 3: And I assume your business so over there at Micelvany

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is doing really well.

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Speaker 4: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people have fomo they waited too long,

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and now now they're wanted to not miss out anymore.

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And other people, other people that know and have benefited

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and are up fifty percent and they're wanting to add

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more because why not. It's the one thing that's going

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to do well.

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Speaker 3: So could not agree with you more. I mean, it's

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just there's inevitability to it. And really there's just nothing

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out there that I don't see anything that's going to

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stop it.

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Speaker 1: Do you No, No, not really. I mean it's it's

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big shift that are taking place that are driving this.

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So it's not gonna not going to turn around, not

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going to stop anytime soon. But yeah, nothing that's going

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to stop. I mean, really, Carrie, we would have to

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whole new government and they're going to balance the budget

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and stop spending as much and not printing money there

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and it's like that's not going to happen, you know,

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they would we'd have to go through a major depression

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to even get out of the you know, the environment

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we're in of being used to all the money printing

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to go through the withdrawals as a country from all

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the easy money. Like no one's going to do that.

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So we're not in any kind of position where metals

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going to do is keep printing money and they're going

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to keep going up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't see how it happens either, you know, it

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just don't because you know, we were stuck in this

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proflicacy and nobody wants to do anything about it, right exactly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no one else.

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Speaker 3: To do anything. So that's really a problem. That's the problem, right, yep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't, I mean anyone in the government right now.

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They have they have expensive elections they have to go through.

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They have big corporate donors that are help paying for that.

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They're they're not gonna they're not gonna be like, yeah,

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let's balance the budget and go into a recession. They're

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just they're not going to do that. No one has

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the political will. There's a handful of maybe really conservative

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folks in Congress, like the Freedom Caucus, but they don't

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they don't have enough. There's not enough of them to

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actually do that. And there's not enough political will with

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the rest of our government to actually make the hard

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choice go through the hard times now before things get

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even worse and worse and get on the right track.

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And they're just we're going to keep inflating the bubble

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until it pops on us, and we have no choice yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's really what it comes down to, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Huh Yeah, yeah, So there's no no chance gold and

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silver are going to have a major drought, like virtually

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no chance. It's it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, greed.

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Speaker 3: All right, So another important question, Michael, where we find you?

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How do we connect with you on the web.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've got my website here. If anyone can see

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the video. If not, go to mcelvany dot com forward

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slash Michael McElvaney mc A l v A n Y.

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Folks can call me to at nine seven zero four

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five nine four six one one. I can call our

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text directly nine seven zero four five nine four six

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one one, and I'll be happy to advise on just

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how to tailor precious metals portfolio for your own needs

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and goals.

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Speaker 3: So all right, well we appreciate you coming on. Any

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questions comments for Michael, just shoot us an email kl

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at Kerrie Leuts dot com. We're using substack now. I

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sent out a little announcement about it. It's just maintaining

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a website. It's just not where it's at anymore. Substack

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handles everything your video, your audio, your mailing lists. Everything

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is there and I swear by it. Hey, great talking

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to you, Michael. We will talk to you again real soon.

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Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Gerry, appreciate it. You have a good one.

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