Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It
Speaker 1: is episode ninety three. I'm Mike Mahardy here as always
Speaker 1: with Dan Rikert.
Speaker 2: Hello, Mary Kish, Hello.
Speaker 1: And my cat Daisy decided to come intro. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I was gonna move her mouth me, Michael Wow.
Speaker 2: For the audience. For those who aren't on the video feed,
Speaker 2: that is just a cat speaking into a microphone. You
Speaker 2: won't know if I'm lying unless you joined the Patreon
Speaker 2: on the video gotch.
Speaker 3: I love Amanda more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not a lie. She's You're not far off
Speaker 1: they all do.
Speaker 3: I mean she said it.
Speaker 1: Diazy has become I don't know if I've told you that.
Speaker 1: She just decided like two weeks ago to become a
Speaker 1: lapcat at five years old.
Speaker 2: As animals get older, I think you can see there's
Speaker 2: like we see it with like Razor, just getting like
Speaker 2: a little more chill or a little different.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that happens. It happens with people. When you
Speaker 2: get older, you get different, right, that's what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget what five is in cat years, because
Speaker 1: cat years isn't just seven years like dogs. It's it's
Speaker 1: like way more at first, but then when they're older.
Speaker 1: Each year is oh not human years. So what does
Speaker 1: it say for five year old cats? How old is she? Well?
Speaker 2: Google AI says, it's just the thing at the top.
Speaker 2: It's the quickest thing, right. The first year. Okay, here's
Speaker 2: from Purina. Okay, this is from.
Speaker 3: Purina dot com the source.
Speaker 2: Look the second thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, cat chat real Okay.
Speaker 2: The first year of your cat's life is considered the
Speaker 2: equivalent of fifteen human years. Yeah, second year adds nine,
Speaker 2: so two cat years are twenty four human years. After this,
Speaker 2: each additional human year is four cat years. So age
Speaker 2: three would be twenty eight. So thirty six, yeah, thirty six,
Speaker 2: so they're thirty six. They're like they're our age now.
Speaker 2: And now she's decided to cuddle on my lap. I'm
Speaker 2: not thirty six, but might as well be. And she
Speaker 2: just like started doing it.
Speaker 1: I think the colder weather also is you know, they
Speaker 1: need me for heat sometimes, but it's.
Speaker 3: Really cut a laptop me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you sound like shit. By the way, what's wrong,
Speaker 1: I'm sick. I'm just clearing the air before I'm sick.
Speaker 2: Very what do you got? What do you say?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's not it's not the big one
Speaker 3: tested tested. That's for death, big true, that's true. I
Speaker 3: like grossly overestimated the power of COVID. Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 3: I'm not dying and I don't have anything like severely
Speaker 3: wrong with me. But I did have a fever two
Speaker 3: days ago, and I broke it yesterday, and I think
Speaker 3: now I'm just like recuperating ye old voice. Also, sometimes
Speaker 3: I'm just tired, and sometimes what I think I'm gonna
Speaker 3: say in my brain comes out terribly after it's come out,
Speaker 3: I think it's happening right now.
Speaker 2: That's why you don't put things in your brain first,
Speaker 2: you just haven't come out your head. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Dan's filter is a like reverse osmosis, where he
Speaker 1: says stuff and then it goes back into his brain
Speaker 1: and then he evaluates it after it's been said a
Speaker 1: few seconds ago.
Speaker 2: That happens when I'm listening to like, somebody will say
Speaker 2: something to me and I'll go like yeah, and I
Speaker 2: won't understand what they said, and then I'll respond, and
Speaker 2: then I'll think about what they said and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's what they said, but I've already said yeah or
Speaker 2: laughed or something. It's kind of a problem.
Speaker 1: I hesitate to bring this up. I'm not gonna go
Speaker 1: to specifics because I do it like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: It involves like person like people we know, and I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say names. But Dan, you made a
Speaker 1: you Bianca and Amanda and I we went out to
Speaker 1: dinner like two weeks ago, and you said a joke
Speaker 1: that at the time you made it comparison. At the
Speaker 1: time that was like, I was like that that was
Speaker 1: pretty funny. But then like that night in bed, I
Speaker 1: was like, that was really fucking funny. I should have
Speaker 1: laughed harder.
Speaker 2: No joke you're talking about it? Yeh, very funny, you
Speaker 2: know how like you got a laugh from another friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. It was the end of the day.
Speaker 1: I was having I have a lull at like five
Speaker 1: pm every day, and you you know, we saw you
Speaker 1: right around then. But it's kind of like when you
Speaker 1: are laying in bed going over something embarrassing that happened
Speaker 1: that day, I like had an epiphans I should have
Speaker 1: left so much harder at that joke. Dan told me
Speaker 1: it was really I need to know it was impressive.
Speaker 2: Well can I just take the laugh now?
Speaker 1: That?
Speaker 2: Oh good?
Speaker 1: That was good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take you. Look at all. All's forgiven. We're good. No, no, no, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm the one who told the joke. Mary, I get
Speaker 2: to have the final verdict on this.
Speaker 3: I think that's sad for you.
Speaker 2: Then, I liked Mike's joke earlier about how Mary's voice
Speaker 2: is hoarse because she was cheering too loud in Madison
Speaker 2: Square Garden recently. I thought that was fun. That's my
Speaker 2: laugh for that one.
Speaker 1: That's the kind of joke I make before we record, right,
Speaker 1: people don't hear it, Dan Oh, I mean Vinny Vinnie
Speaker 1: hopped in the zoom and said that, Yeah.
Speaker 3: These are really funny. These are really funny jokes.
Speaker 1: I like how the butt of the joke changes every
Speaker 1: episode so far. It's been a lot to marry a
Speaker 1: Jake special yep. Although then I became about the joke
Speaker 1: and you changed Jake dot Org.
Speaker 3: Going back that because you weren't fast enough.
Speaker 1: That was a really fun joke.
Speaker 2: Jake won that round you.
Speaker 3: So Jake won that around you.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 3: I'm not smart enough to defend myself right now because
Speaker 3: I have sick. What's the problem here is that you
Speaker 3: guys are picking on someone who doesn't have the full
Speaker 3: capacity of their brain. And I think that says more
Speaker 3: about you than it does about me, who is a
Speaker 3: victim in this situation. I am doing my best to
Speaker 3: keep up, but it takes me a little longer to
Speaker 3: retort and call you what you are. In these situations,
Speaker 3: I have to think about it, process it, and by
Speaker 3: the time I usually come up with a really nice,
Speaker 3: witty comeback, the moment has passed and I just have
Speaker 3: to be quiet.
Speaker 2: Well, the question, you know, we're typically drinking during this show,
Speaker 2: and that impairs speed and reflexes and things like that.
Speaker 2: So do you feel like sober and sick is slower
Speaker 2: than not sick? And if you drinks in.
Speaker 3: Oh not me, honey, alcohol only improves the speed in veracity.
Speaker 1: There's mouse there's like a drink count or.
Speaker 3: Like Bomber's peak for sure, what does Bomber's peak like?
Speaker 3: Notorious for engineers or like essentially coders who would drink
Speaker 3: because it improves your creativity, your flexibility, and your curiosity
Speaker 3: to a certain degree. And so people who were like programming.
Speaker 3: It's like an old comics you can look it up.
Speaker 2: But like, is this Steve Baumber thing that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the comic is depicting essentially like a bunch of
Speaker 3: programmers who are at Bomber's peak, and so it's making
Speaker 3: them really creative and really interesting and they're writing amazing code.
Speaker 3: But the problem is is that you can never maintain
Speaker 3: Bomber's peak because you drink too much and then you
Speaker 3: pass out, and so it's it's a fallacy, like you
Speaker 3: can't maintain it.
Speaker 2: Sweet spot. There is a sweet spot with like I
Speaker 2: have Bomber's peak during Astrobot speed runs where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm like four drinks in, I'm like, you know, not
Speaker 2: getting in my head about stuff, but I'm not like sloppy,
Speaker 2: Like yeah, there's a right amount.
Speaker 3: Of the deck sterity goes up, right, Like have you
Speaker 3: ever drank when you're like taking on like a crazy
Speaker 3: bloodborne boss or something, You're just like, I'm so fluid,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of his moves before he's making them. I'm
Speaker 3: in the motherfuckings Oh my god, I'm drunk. And then
Speaker 3: you and then you had to fall asleep at your keyboard,
Speaker 3: and you know that happened to the best of us.
Speaker 2: That's so rare with me, the falling asleep. It's happened,
Speaker 2: but on a rare occasion, like sleeping in a couch
Speaker 2: or a chair or something. I like, that's why I
Speaker 2: can't sleep on planes and stuff, is because I can't
Speaker 2: be in a seated position sleeping easily reclined. Sure, if
Speaker 2: I got like a lazy boy situation going on, that's
Speaker 2: happened more often. But like, do you ever play.
Speaker 3: On a couch like where you're like kind of it's
Speaker 3: a lounge couch situation. Like I fall asleep like that
Speaker 3: all the time, And I just got a new couch
Speaker 3: and so now it's, yeah, I'm in trouble if it's
Speaker 3: it's the couch that has half of it is a
Speaker 3: sitting couch and half of visit a legs extendo couch.
Speaker 3: You know I'm talking about, yeah leg rest situation. And
Speaker 3: if I do that, and I have usually my Steam
Speaker 3: deck and I'm playing something in there, all bets are off.
Speaker 3: At any moment, no matter where I am in a
Speaker 3: video game, I might just fall asleep and have a
Speaker 3: and I just wake up like an hour later and
Speaker 3: I'm happy and nothing bad really happened to me. There's
Speaker 3: no punishment for it usually, So yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 3: just become a natural occurrence.
Speaker 2: Ye are you not like waking up the airport or something.
Speaker 2: You're probably fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to wake up in a lawless land.
Speaker 3: If you wake up in like, you know, Toledo on
Speaker 3: a random Tuesday, you've gone too far. But if you're
Speaker 3: in your home, you're you're safe still with your blanking
Speaker 3: on you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you guys seen we might may have talked.
Speaker 1: Is that Mexican Coca Cola?
Speaker 3: It is you, guys. I'm a costco homie now, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't help it.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. For good prices they yet they
Speaker 1: ran like really good wines that should not be as
Speaker 1: cheap as they are.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, it's crazy what they offer. But the Mexican
Speaker 3: cokes there are like such a scam. It's such a
Speaker 3: good deal. And if I'm gonna drink soda, I'm not
Speaker 3: much of a soda person. Dan, I know you're a
Speaker 3: big soda head, so like we can maybe talk about this,
Speaker 3: but like I usually just do not drink SODA's ever,
Speaker 3: it's not in my thing. I'm a I'm a Lacroix person.
Speaker 3: I usually drink like soda water if I want something crispy,
Speaker 3: But I do not have any kind of soda almost
Speaker 3: ever in my life. But a Mexican coke at the
Speaker 3: glass bottle, it's just like it's I don't know, it's
Speaker 3: a treat. It's like somebody gave me a gift. It's
Speaker 3: a decadent dessert. It makes me feel like a million bucks.
Speaker 3: I love it. It's such a good treat.
Speaker 2: I believe it. The only thing is I just I've
Speaker 2: never bought a full normal soda since like before college
Speaker 2: or maybe early college, so it's all zero. And like,
Speaker 2: I don't think they do zero Mexican coke.
Speaker 3: I don't think they do have zero.
Speaker 2: I don't think they do no.
Speaker 3: I think there'd be something like just completely impossible about it,
Speaker 3: considering the whole point of Mexican coke is that it's
Speaker 3: made with sugar instead of corn syrup, which is like
Speaker 3: our American systems, And I don't think zero has corn syrup.
Speaker 3: I would assume it's all su gross or some kind
Speaker 3: of like fake.
Speaker 2: Oh okay.
Speaker 1: I used to know that There was a period when
Speaker 1: I was younger and I was getting tested for allergies
Speaker 1: and it turned out one of them was corn. So
Speaker 1: like we were like, all right, if it's bad, nothing,
Speaker 1: I guess corn syrup will have a little bit to
Speaker 1: do with that, So I started trying to avoid coins
Speaker 1: corn syrup in all of it, in everything.
Speaker 2: I had an allergy test this morning, my first time ever.
Speaker 2: It was what did they do?
Speaker 1: Do they do the prick?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a billion little pricks in my back and then
Speaker 2: they did I didn't know this was like a medical term,
Speaker 2: but they did still have these raised dots in my forearm.
Speaker 2: They're like, Okay, we're gonna test for food stuff by putting.
Speaker 2: It's not a shot, it's not an injection. It's just
Speaker 2: like a little blip under your skin. And they said
Speaker 2: blip like a lot to the point where I was like,
Speaker 2: is this an actual medical thing that I've never heard
Speaker 2: or because I've only heard it like, oh, a dog
Speaker 2: was like sticking his tongue out. Weird. Like, we're put
Speaker 2: like six blips under your forearm. I don't know what
Speaker 2: that means.
Speaker 3: Go it an acronym, I don't know, but.
Speaker 2: It's just like six bumps they inject like wheat and
Speaker 2: oil or whatever under your forearm and they see if
Speaker 2: it like freaks out and sprouts another arm. And it
Speaker 2: didn't do that for me, So yeah, I guess I'm fine.
Speaker 1: Why did you get the Well, first off, I hated
Speaker 1: the prot test because several of them went nuts on
Speaker 1: my back. Oh really yeah, grass went crazy like grass
Speaker 1: grew on your back. It was so bad that it
Speaker 1: like it like it got red and a huge bump
Speaker 1: and the red overtook some of the other pricks so
Speaker 1: radiated out for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, But did you.
Speaker 1: Just get Was it like a routine thing or have
Speaker 1: you been booked? You had?
Speaker 2: It takes forever if you book something here where. I
Speaker 2: booked it back before I had my sinus surgery, just
Speaker 2: being like when I was having all those infections, I
Speaker 2: was like, that's the spring. Maybe I'm allergic to something
Speaker 2: or pollen in Minnesota or something. So I booked it
Speaker 2: and the earliest date they had was today. And in
Speaker 2: between booking it and now I like had surgery and
Speaker 2: recovery and stuff. But I was like, I'm so curious,
Speaker 2: why not I'll get the test. So but I think
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 3: It seems like it's a nice thing to do. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not even I don't have a lot of allergies.
Speaker 3: I'd be very curious if my body had any reactions
Speaker 3: to any items. Like I would do it just for
Speaker 3: the knowledge of like what I'm allergic to. So did
Speaker 3: you did you have any reactions to any bleps? Nothing?
Speaker 2: There's the one like control poke they do on your
Speaker 2: back to like compare the other ones to do. And
Speaker 2: this said, Oh, that one's like a histamine thing that's
Speaker 2: going to make an itch for a little bit, Like
Speaker 2: I slightly itched for a little bit. But it just
Speaker 2: it was easy. It was fine. Nothing reacted bad. Uh yeah, simple.
Speaker 2: They drew some blood to check some other stuff. But man,
Speaker 2: it's all easy.
Speaker 3: So you don't have any allergies.
Speaker 2: I'm not allergic to anything.
Speaker 3: No, why did you do it again?
Speaker 2: I was wondering about earlier because I booked it in
Speaker 2: the spring. Maybe I'm getting nine thousand, understand.
Speaker 3: I heard the story. I don't understand why.
Speaker 1: You book this is that's a bit that was me.
Speaker 3: I'm going to bed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you boked it a while ago before he had
Speaker 1: all the surgeries, and the surgeries all helped and now
Speaker 1: he feels fine, but he hadn't.
Speaker 2: Okay, I see, I'm still curious, man, I'd like to
Speaker 2: know about my body and what.
Speaker 3: You find out if it's something like allergies, before you
Speaker 3: have major surgery. So you did a little out of order,
Speaker 3: but I guess it just worked out in the end,
Speaker 3: Thank you American health Care system.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have booked it sooner, but like it
Speaker 2: literally was like, oh, six months from now is the
Speaker 2: earliest thing. So that's great.
Speaker 3: That's so crazy. I was thinking about out and got
Speaker 3: the big one looking into a deviated septum because my
Speaker 3: nose is always stuffy, and I've heard that deviated septums
Speaker 3: are like you know, it's I mean, it is a procedure,
Speaker 3: but it's totally fixable with modern science, and it's really
Speaker 3: worth looking into. And like these things are booked out
Speaker 3: six months in advance, so if I wanted to like
Speaker 3: get my deviated septum fixed, I have to like call
Speaker 3: a doc now and book it and see me in
Speaker 3: the next year.
Speaker 2: Might as well, Like you'll book it and then forget
Speaker 2: about it, and then it'll come up for you know,
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh shit, get that done, like they
Speaker 2: did that.
Speaker 1: That's got recovery though, that the allergy thing, you just
Speaker 1: came home and you're fine. Deviate septum has quite a recovery.
Speaker 3: It's like getting a little nose job.
Speaker 1: We both got it, Dan and me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they did it with mine while they're in there
Speaker 2: doing the sinus stuff like.
Speaker 1: Two weeks, so they got these like stints up it, right.
Speaker 2: I didn't need the stens, but it still was for
Speaker 2: a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had the whole mind was bad, so like
Speaker 1: my whole left nostril just like didn't work my whole life.
Speaker 1: And I never really asked anybody about it, so no
Speaker 1: one knew that it wasn't working. I was like, why
Speaker 1: do we have two nostrils? I thought it was like
Speaker 1: a like a kidney situation. My mom's like, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? I was like, why do we have
Speaker 1: two nostrils if we only breathe through one? She's like,
Speaker 1: are you congested right now? I was like no, I
Speaker 1: feel fine. She's like, are you telling me you can't
Speaker 1: breathe through one of your nostrils? I was like yes,
Speaker 1: She's like how long? I don't know, seventeen years.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize until like two years ago, and I
Speaker 2: was doing a yoga class and they were like, let's
Speaker 2: do some bread stuff and she was like, okay, so
Speaker 2: cover one nostril and out, cover the other one and
Speaker 2: out and like one of them just doesn't do that.
Speaker 2: It turns out like, yeah, I just wouldn't breathing through
Speaker 2: the right one.
Speaker 1: It helps broke out like turns out being able to
Speaker 1: breathe like symmetrically. And I was playing sports up in
Speaker 1: like fairly well up until then and then afterwards like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I've been working like over time, like
Speaker 1: twice as hard to run the same amount.
Speaker 3: If only they could have unlocked that during your peak
Speaker 3: high school years, you could have made State Mike.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, I'd be I'd be fucking you would have
Speaker 1: been able to read.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could have climbed mountains with both of those
Speaker 3: nose hooles opened up.
Speaker 1: I'd be the fourth Splash brother. Everything would have been different.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be fucking like Naku in those weight chambers
Speaker 3: like heavy gravity chambers, just struggling to do setups and
Speaker 3: all you needed was that second hole.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't fucking be talking to YouTube every two weeks,
Speaker 1: that's for sure.
Speaker 2: I do wonder if that was something because I did.
Speaker 2: I just did another half marathon on Sunday, and the
Speaker 2: last one, like all my training and everything was done
Speaker 2: without the surgery, and this one was like a billion
Speaker 2: times easier for me than the first half marathon this year.
Speaker 2: But I think another big part of it, though, was
Speaker 2: it was thirty four degrees this time, and the one
Speaker 2: I did in July was eighty degrees by the end,
Speaker 2: and so like I was full on, Like when I
Speaker 2: crossed the finish line in July, I felt fucked up,
Speaker 2: Like I remember thinking like I need to sit down
Speaker 2: and just eat a bunch of cookies or something until
Speaker 2: I feel like I can, like drive this one. I
Speaker 2: crossed the finished line, grab bottle of water and like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm good to go, Like it's so much better when
Speaker 2: it's cold outside.
Speaker 1: How many halfs is that now?
Speaker 2: Three? And I signed up for a full marathon next year.
Speaker 1: You can start telling everybody you've run one and a
Speaker 1: half marathons.
Speaker 2: Ad, no, no, I'll be back runding good three halves
Speaker 2: and I'll do the full next year. My sister's going
Speaker 2: to train with me, so that'll be fun from a distance. Yep, yep.
Speaker 2: So she'll train in Kansas and then she'll fly up
Speaker 2: for the thing in October.
Speaker 1: How do is it the Minneapolis Marathon.
Speaker 2: Twin Cities Marathon?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How does that? Like? I know training for that is like, Okay,
Speaker 1: one day you do two miles and then you rest,
Speaker 1: and then the next day you do six and then
Speaker 1: you rest and then you kind of work up to
Speaker 1: peaks and then you work back down and then you
Speaker 1: work up.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Am I sort of describing it?
Speaker 2: Well, I've got it on my Google calendar. It starts
Speaker 2: in May and then so like let's say, let's look
Speaker 2: at June. My long run Saturday is eight miles, then
Speaker 2: it's nine, then it goes down to six. Then he
Speaker 2: goes to eleven, then he goes to twelve. So it
Speaker 2: does kind of go up and bring it down every
Speaker 2: once in a while, but this is slowly, like the
Speaker 2: trend line's going up. So like by late July, I'm
Speaker 2: doing fifteen miles. Get into August seventeen, eight nineteen, just
Speaker 2: working a ry after that in twenty six.
Speaker 1: Do you run twenty six before the marathon at all?
Speaker 2: No, it looks like the longest I will run before
Speaker 2: is twenty on September thirteenth.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just like not worth the injury risk after
Speaker 1: those six that extra six miles or something. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I could see it because it was three four days ago.
Speaker 2: I did this half and like my left foot is
Speaker 2: like I don't think I like broke anything or whatever,
Speaker 2: but just like I can feel like the bones in
Speaker 2: my left foot are like hurting, so I'm like icing
Speaker 2: it and stuff. So if that happens at thirteen miles,
Speaker 2: I can't imagine doing nineteen twenty pleasure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my uncle, I forget how many he's run, but
Speaker 1: he like places well sorry, not like top three. I
Speaker 1: don't think top three, but he like he takes it seriously,
Speaker 1: does it in under whatever the hour count is that like,
Speaker 1: oh you're a serious marathon run or whatever. And he
Speaker 1: was saying I was like, have you ever gotten like
Speaker 1: this random injury like two hours in or sorry, two
Speaker 1: miles in? He's like yeah. I was like what And
Speaker 1: he described some of the injuries he got at two
Speaker 1: miles and I was like that sucks to just have
Speaker 1: to end the racers like, oh, I ran the rest
Speaker 1: of the race. I just didn't run quickly. I was like,
Speaker 1: but you I forgot I wish I knew remembered what.
Speaker 1: But it was like an injury that if I was
Speaker 1: playing basketball, I would leave the court immediately. Sure, he
Speaker 1: just ran another twenty four miles or something because you're like,
Speaker 1: well I did a year for this, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's on if it's on race day and
Speaker 2: you're literally not like it's not like a bone sticking
Speaker 2: out of your leg or something like you know, you
Speaker 2: train for yeah, the better part of a year. Like
Speaker 2: I would probably run through there, Like my foot was hurting.
Speaker 2: By the end of this one. I was like, this
Speaker 2: is my last run of the year.
Speaker 3: Basically all the bones were inside and so you can't run.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have accepted an injury if you know
Speaker 2: it was my last run.
Speaker 3: Yeah. When the doctors check you out before the run,
Speaker 3: they're always like, where are the bones, And if they're
Speaker 3: all on the inside, fucking run.
Speaker 2: If there's one poking out, they just kind of poke
Speaker 2: it back in and you know you're gonna go put
Speaker 2: a band aid over it. You're good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just periodically pussy everybody got this.
Speaker 3: Pussy's way. He's got a bone sticking out, My bone
Speaker 3: hurts me.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, fans orb is hanging out of his body. Loser,
Speaker 1: his orb is intact.
Speaker 2: He's fine, my orb was drawn. Yeah, well that's cool.
Speaker 1: That's exciting. Twenty six point two miles.
Speaker 2: Yep yep, that'll be October. I mean, we'll see I
Speaker 2: could get injured. Any number of things gonna happen, but that.
Speaker 1: Hit twenty six miles. You only have point two left,
Speaker 1: and then one of your friends flew in secretly and
Speaker 1: comes out of nowhere on a skateboard and runs into you.
Speaker 2: Tanya hurting me. Yeah, basically, that'd be a really weird
Speaker 2: thing to do.
Speaker 3: Kanya Harding did that so that she could win. Mike
Speaker 3: wouldn't even be doing it.
Speaker 1: I just can't tolerate.
Speaker 3: He would just want to take you down a peg.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he doesn't skateboard, Yeah, just a cool factor.
Speaker 2: He learns the skateboard so he can do this. It's
Speaker 2: for the content. We'll tell a story on the podcast.
Speaker 1: No, that'd be even funnier if I like put a
Speaker 1: hood over your head and then two of my henchmen
Speaker 1: pulled you backstage, and then I came out dressed like
Speaker 1: you with a wig on or a bear up your wig.
Speaker 1: I crossed the finish line, like Bank goes to hug me, like, hey, fuck,
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 2: It's just that Nathan for you, where he has all
Speaker 2: the prosthetics and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, come here, baby.
Speaker 1: Fucking watch your back that last mile, Dan, shit, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's when that's when, that's when I'll be lurking. Oh god,
Speaker 1: that really would be funny though, if, like now, if
Speaker 1: I did fly in secretly and you look off to
Speaker 1: the side and you I'm just standing there randomly at
Speaker 1: like mile nineteen, Yeah, doing.
Speaker 2: That, I agree, that'd be very funny. Yes, I'm calling
Speaker 2: your bluff. Do it.
Speaker 1: That'd be really fucking funny.
Speaker 3: My girlfriends have also been doing marathons. They've been trying
Speaker 3: to convince me to do one. There's a couple half marathons,
Speaker 3: but I really do not tend to run more than
Speaker 3: five miles ever, and I don't know if I want
Speaker 3: to run more than five miles. That's a long time.
Speaker 3: I remember the first time I run, I ran like
Speaker 3: three miles. I was like, good for you, Like go
Speaker 3: get a drink, like you're done for the day. But
Speaker 3: I've gotten more proactive with running with them, and I've
Speaker 3: found that when I run by myself, after I run
Speaker 3: about one or two miles, I'm pretty tired and would
Speaker 3: like to like take a break or chill. But if
Speaker 3: I run with friends, I can run three miles and
Speaker 3: not notice and there's like a social component or at
Speaker 3: least a mental component to running that's like just about
Speaker 3: distracting yourself with other shit going on so that you
Speaker 3: don't think about how tired you are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, that would be when I listened to
Speaker 2: my podcast typically throughout the week, like during the training runs,
Speaker 2: and then on actual race day. There is something about
Speaker 2: just like there's adrenaline, there's a million other people doing this.
Speaker 2: It's like it's not your normal route, so there's like
Speaker 2: novelty to it. So I didn't necessarily know if I
Speaker 2: was gonna be able to do it this time, but
Speaker 2: like once you get out there race day, it's just
Speaker 2: like your brain clicks into place. It's like, all right, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're doing this.
Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine a full marathon. To give you a
Speaker 3: lot of credit, I've tinkered with the idea of doing
Speaker 3: a half, but again, I just think that there's like
Speaker 3: a sweet spot for me personally, or like five or
Speaker 3: six miles and I'm like, I'm so proud of me,
Speaker 3: and then I go home. I don't get a medal,
Speaker 3: but I feel like I accomplished a lot running five miles.
Speaker 2: But you know what the thing is, though, is that.
Speaker 2: I think the reason it's worked for me more than
Speaker 2: most any other workout is because you register so far
Speaker 2: in advance, like I've already paid for a thing a
Speaker 2: year from now, and if I am not ready for it,
Speaker 2: I've just wasted that. You know, I wasted the money.
Speaker 2: It's not refundable, you know. It's like, so I have
Speaker 2: to hit this schedule. I can't just like because if
Speaker 2: you don't have like a dedicated thing or a day
Speaker 2: on the calendar you got to prepare for at least me,
Speaker 2: I'll just be like, ah, you know, today was busy.
Speaker 2: I didn't have time to do this or whatever, like
Speaker 2: to do a reason, Yeah, you have to do it,
Speaker 2: otherwise you're fucked and you're just not gonna be able
Speaker 2: to run the marathon. So it like keeps you on track.
Speaker 3: I do like that. I feel like I could use
Speaker 3: more reasons to be committed. The best one I have
Speaker 3: is that my girlfriends want to run with me, which
Speaker 3: is such a wonderful thing. And I don't want to
Speaker 3: embarrass myself and have these girls that do run marathons,
Speaker 3: and I noticed this the last time we ran together,
Speaker 3: because they're obviously much faster and better runners. Than me
Speaker 3: because they run marathons. Was that they were running slower
Speaker 3: than they usually do. I know what their average miles are,
Speaker 3: and they were running slower miles and they didn't complain
Speaker 3: and they never brought it up because they're very nice girls.
Speaker 3: But I recognized that I was slowing them down, and
Speaker 3: so like, to me, my motivation is is if my
Speaker 3: girlfriends are inviting me out to run, I don't want
Speaker 3: to be the slow runner. So I have to like
Speaker 3: keep my shit together so that I can be invited
Speaker 3: to the cool runners club. It's all social for me, baby, Like,
Speaker 3: I don't want to be in the loser runner club.
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta show up.
Speaker 2: That sounds fun. I've never done that, Like the like
Speaker 2: running with people thing, I don't.
Speaker 1: I It's that's not speaking of like what's for you
Speaker 1: enough for me. I can't run with other people really
Speaker 1: because I either I'm slowing down for them or I'm
Speaker 1: working harder than I want to be to like with them.
Speaker 1: I mean, once you've enough with someone, I'm sure you
Speaker 1: like get a good sense of each other's pace. But like,
Speaker 1: I hate even when I round a corner because I'm
Speaker 1: running in like a city, most of the time, so
Speaker 1: it's all on a grid for the most part until
Speaker 1: I get to the water. If I round a corner,
Speaker 1: I kind of peek around at first to make sure
Speaker 1: no one else is running on that block, because again,
Speaker 1: then I have the conundrum. It's like, do I pass
Speaker 1: them and feel like an asshole? Or do I get
Speaker 1: stuck behind them? Or yeah, do they fucking show me up?
Speaker 3: So those are strangers, and that's toxic masculinity.
Speaker 1: It's not I can be competitive and not be a
Speaker 1: toxic masscular.
Speaker 3: They're just like so excited to run together.
Speaker 1: Join I didn't say.
Speaker 3: To my limit, and I better not let this other men.
Speaker 1: Pass close on a run up behind him and kick
Speaker 1: him in the cross from behind him, then keep running,
Speaker 1: pick pocket him, sucking as he's bleeding out, take take it,
Speaker 1: steal his phone for the rest of my run, and
Speaker 1: just text all of his friends I hate you. I'm
Speaker 1: in love with your spouse n f BR three nine
Speaker 1: two k H Mary. I texted Dan and Bianca this yesterday,
Speaker 1: but I'll have you know and you'll appreciate it that, yes,
Speaker 1: Amanda and me cannot watch a sex scene in a
Speaker 1: show or a movie without her like shouting over it.
Speaker 1: I'm anna, I'm gonna fucking fill you up. Like it's
Speaker 1: like it could be the most emotional scene now and
Speaker 1: like in a drama, like we're like and it's just
Speaker 1: I know it's coming, so I'm bracing myself.
Speaker 2: Good, let me talking.
Speaker 3: I have to go because it kind of I mean,
Speaker 3: it has the potential to ruin things, but I actually
Speaker 3: think it's a beautiful thing that makes you closer, like
Speaker 3: uh uh to me and my partner. Sometimes this is
Speaker 3: just I don't know how this happened, but probably for
Speaker 3: years now, anytime a character and another character kiss, we
Speaker 3: elbow each other like schoolgirls and are like, like we
Speaker 3: always do it. So if it's steamy, if it's spicy,
Speaker 3: if it's just a kiss, it's always an elbow. Just
Speaker 3: be like shit's heating up and it's become like lore
Speaker 3: now where it doesn't matter what situation it is. If
Speaker 3: people are kissing, we have to like elbow each other.
Speaker 3: And I think it's funny and like I wonder if
Speaker 3: like years from now, you guys will be like watching
Speaker 3: the equivalent of like the next generation's Titanic and like
Speaker 3: two star cross lovers will finally, that's a different movie
Speaker 3: will finally be kissing and you will and you guys
Speaker 3: will just be like, I'm gonna shoot secret joke between
Speaker 3: you two.
Speaker 2: You know what I want. There was a website once
Speaker 2: called the Walk of Life Project, and it took that.
Speaker 2: You know, they did the Walk, the Walk that the
Speaker 2: dire straight song. Yeah, yeah, it was. They basically said
Speaker 2: that every movie could be improved by putting that over
Speaker 2: the as he goes into the credits, and so it
Speaker 2: would be like two thousand and one Space even like
Speaker 2: a Star Child and Watch of Life is playing, and
Speaker 2: it was amazing. I want to see a site like
Speaker 2: that where it's just taking the mcgoover's sex sounds and
Speaker 2: putting them over sex scenes in movies. So just like
Speaker 2: famous sex scenes or like the Terminator one where it's
Speaker 2: like Kyle Reeves and Sarah Connor and just dub over
Speaker 2: mcgoover sex. Just uh, why is that? My I was
Speaker 2: trying to think of a famous sex scene in a movie.
Speaker 3: It's like Terminator, what a famous sex scene?
Speaker 2: Hey Tommy, what sex was? So to me, it's the
Speaker 2: most famous sex scene.
Speaker 1: What does it say about me that I went straight
Speaker 1: to three hundred with Gerard Butler The beginning is very
Speaker 1: slow motion scene. Yeah, before he's going off to die.
Speaker 2: I'm got just shoot, that's that's my slow.
Speaker 1: Motion Gerard Butler.
Speaker 2: It's really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is what is like an emotional sex scene?
Speaker 2: What can I think of emotional sex scene? How much
Speaker 2: emotional sex have I seen in movies? Fuck, there's there's
Speaker 2: gotta be some. I don't really see a lot of
Speaker 2: romance movies. We talked about that.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: I guess mcgruper had the right idea when they took
Speaker 1: the top gun scene and fucked with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is a non ironic nice emotional sex scene?
Speaker 3: The Titanic one where they're in the back, they're.
Speaker 2: Just paying each other naked, they don't have sex.
Speaker 3: To they do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the raft they Yeah, he falls off into
Speaker 1: the deep because they were trying to sixty nine on
Speaker 1: the wrapt He came.
Speaker 2: And like blew his body pack in the water and
Speaker 2: to die.
Speaker 1: And then she was too tired, just too.
Speaker 3: Satisfied, time, too tired, get off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, I beat.
Speaker 1: That's why Leo's face as he falls into the depths like.
Speaker 3: He's got.
Speaker 2: On the director's cut. He keeps sinking down and you
Speaker 2: see his boner come in to frames.
Speaker 1: Now I'm curious. Let me search emotional most emotional sex scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember the banging and Titanic.
Speaker 1: There's a reddit about this.
Speaker 3: You don't remember the banging in title?
Speaker 2: I remember the painting and I remember the ship crashing.
Speaker 2: Those are the two things I remember.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: The subhead for this reddit post is something blue is
Speaker 1: the warmest color? Et Mama tambien. Okay, Now I remember
Speaker 1: that portray Lady on Fire.
Speaker 2: I'm saying it was Alexandros.
Speaker 1: Which one? Aren't there several?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: The only one the original I.
Speaker 2: Ever saw that. I was thinking of wild Things for
Speaker 2: a second.
Speaker 3: I was thinking of the nod that was not emotional though.
Speaker 3: Those are just really hot people.
Speaker 1: Fucking yes, aren't there several sex scenes in cruel intentions?
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I want to Selma Blair and Ryan Philippie.
Speaker 3: Right, but there's the same girl kiss which I think
Speaker 3: is pretty hot in the pool?
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's a there's scream, isn't it? What is
Speaker 1: the who's the I think it's who kisses Naomi.
Speaker 2: Something Nev Campbell and Annis Richards and wild Things?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, okay, so yes, we were we already talking
Speaker 1: about that. We covered that. I never saw that movie.
Speaker 1: I just like when I was eighteen, my version of
Speaker 1: fourn was watching movie sex scenes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's like a super famous one for anyone
Speaker 2: remotely close to thirties or forties.
Speaker 3: Ye, you fix that right.
Speaker 1: You've seen this film Wild Things?
Speaker 3: No, oh my god, we have to discuss this. Wild
Speaker 3: Things is one of the greatest films of like is
Speaker 3: it nineties of like that era? Maybe it's so fucking good.
Speaker 3: Nev Campbell kills it in the role. But you have
Speaker 3: to be really careful because there's spoiler city because it's
Speaker 3: about it's like all full of like twists and like
Speaker 3: who done it? And there's like all these neat stuff
Speaker 3: to it, so you really shouldn't look it up. But
Speaker 3: like it's really well done, especially for how hot everybody is.
Speaker 3: Everyone's so smoking hot. You'd be like, was probably not
Speaker 3: a good plot, and you're watching it because you get
Speaker 3: to see a full pair of like stunning boobies. But
Speaker 3: it's also got an incredibly good plot and really good twists,
Speaker 3: and everyone's a good actor. It's a kind of movie.
Speaker 2: I think I might have seen the pool scene. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, that's all I need. I think that was it.
Speaker 3: I think I read it continuously gets good. Matt Dylan
Speaker 3: is really good in it. Denise Richards kills it like
Speaker 3: it's it's awesome. It is like, yes, it's super horny,
Speaker 3: and you should watch the sex scenes. They're really great.
Speaker 3: But the film itself is wonderful. It's just like people
Speaker 3: are dying and there's like money floating around and everyone's like,
Speaker 3: who's killing these people for? Like what money? And there's
Speaker 3: like master minds going on, and there's a police Bill
Speaker 3: Murrian situation. It's very good.
Speaker 2: What Bill Marie it am? I thinking of the right thing?
Speaker 2: Bill Murray is like in a neck brace? Right?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I he there's there is a neck brace situation?
Speaker 3: Is it Bill Murray? I think I'm not think might be,
Speaker 3: but it's it's very well done for how hot everybody is.
Speaker 3: Like you'd think it was like a second rate movie
Speaker 3: because it's just there's too many good looking people, but.
Speaker 2: It's a cinemax like a Cinemax after dark type thing,
Speaker 2: like it had that vibe to it, but it had
Speaker 2: like it was a real movie.
Speaker 3: Yes, so I think that's absolutely worth watching in its entirety.
Speaker 3: And then you get the bonus of these really great scenes.
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you the movie itself is solid.
Speaker 2: It's a watch people like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah you okay, you both have homework? Can you watch
Speaker 3: Wild Things please?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: See, I'm interested.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not a huge ask mic, there's.
Speaker 1: No sure Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Do we still not know legitimately romantic, non ironic sex
Speaker 2: scene in the history of cinema?
Speaker 1: No, I see there's a few Broke Back Mountain, Lose
Speaker 1: the warmest color?
Speaker 3: Uh, I would not recommend blues the warmest colors?
Speaker 1: No, isn't that two kids like high schoolers?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And these scenes are like ten minutes long. Like
Speaker 3: I When they say these things, I think they mean
Speaker 3: things like Romeo and Juliet, where there's like people like
Speaker 3: making out in a pool and it's hot like blues.
Speaker 3: The warmest color is as close as you absolutely can
Speaker 3: get to it just being like porn with like a
Speaker 3: slight plot.
Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, I was saying, like I'm famous ones.
Speaker 2: Wait, Top Gun Maverick was there one with the Tom
Speaker 2: Cruise and Jennifer Connelly, didn't they like, Yeah, I remember
Speaker 2: that lady.
Speaker 1: The first time the song came on.
Speaker 2: Oh maybe I thought I remember there being a yeah, okay, oh.
Speaker 3: I was, uh, Witches of east Wick. Have you guys
Speaker 3: seen that? It's a classic.
Speaker 2: It's older Susan Sarandon, right, it.
Speaker 3: Was, yes, yeah, and share hello, and it's really really good.
Speaker 3: But I couldn't remember exactly what it was called. And
Speaker 3: I was just like, what's it called, like Witches of
Speaker 3: like Breastwick or whatever. And it turns out that there
Speaker 3: is a Witches of Breastwick because they made a porno
Speaker 3: nice based on Witches of east Wick and they called
Speaker 3: it Witches of Breastwick.
Speaker 2: Boy, that sounds like a real first draft, like we'll
Speaker 2: call it, which was a Breastwick, or we'll call it
Speaker 2: until we come up with real title. It's like that,
Speaker 2: which is they just.
Speaker 3: Did it made it all the way into the final.
Speaker 3: Jack Nicholson is in Witches of Eastwick. Yes, it's great.
Speaker 3: It's three witches who are all like, they don't actually
Speaker 3: know they're witches, and they're sick of men, but they
Speaker 3: love men and they're drinking and they're all concocting who
Speaker 3: they think is the perfect man. And then it's Jack
Speaker 3: Nicholson and he comes into town and he starts seducing
Speaker 3: them all and he starts like getting with all three
Speaker 3: of them?
Speaker 2: Is Jack Nicholson like an is he like a desirable man?
Speaker 3: So I think what's interesting about this film and Jack
Speaker 3: Nicholson in general, is like Jack Nicholson can play like
Speaker 3: an absolute psychopath and he can also play a very
Speaker 3: charming and charismatic person. And this role contained both of them.
Speaker 3: When they're describing in the Witches of Eastwick, when they're like,
Speaker 3: should he be handsome? And the girls are like, he
Speaker 3: should be, but not too handsome. It should be like,
Speaker 3: in a funny way, chrisma with them, And I mean
Speaker 3: Jack Nicholson has that in droves, like he's so charismatic
Speaker 3: you can't take your eyes off of him, and the
Speaker 3: way he portrays this character, who I believe like, although
Speaker 3: it's probably up for debate, very like essentially like demonic character.
Speaker 3: The more Jack Nicholson plays him, the more you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: this guy's like a fucking psychopath. But you also still
Speaker 3: can't take your eyes off of him, because he's really
Speaker 3: charismatic and enjoyable to look at. But he's just a
Speaker 3: freak of nature.
Speaker 2: He just never plays the like I'm just a everyman,
Speaker 2: good old boy like he is always like some sort
Speaker 2: of like shining or Cuhoo's nest, like, you know, he's
Speaker 2: still kind of a wild man like because he's so
Speaker 2: good at that. I can't picture him just being like
Speaker 2: an everyman character.
Speaker 1: He's got He's got the Easy Rider, five easy pieces
Speaker 1: Chinatown era, I think Chinatown when I have been before those.
Speaker 1: Have you guys seen an easy Rider?
Speaker 2: I have to really good movie, all those movies.
Speaker 1: Just looking through these sex scenes on this time out list.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Mike was so quiet recently, and I think
Speaker 3: he's been looking at best sex scenes of all time porn.
Speaker 2: Oh I saw that, but I don't remember.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, ship, that isn't that? This is the bad one?
Speaker 1: This is the last tango in Paris? Why is that on?
Speaker 1: This isn't that when she came out saying that she
Speaker 1: was not comfortable during that.
Speaker 2: Whole Oh I heard about that. Yeah, Brandon fight Club.
Speaker 2: Oh the weird like uh Matrix cam Helena Bonham Carter
Speaker 2: or sex that's just like a shot, that's just like
Speaker 2: a quick like like matrix rotator around her thing.
Speaker 1: Monsters ball with Thornton, I know the sex scene similar thing.
Speaker 3: Well, Dan can describe this matrix shot.
Speaker 2: A lot.
Speaker 3: You have that like embedded in your brain.
Speaker 2: And that's not even a horny thing for me. That's
Speaker 2: just I saw Fight Club a lot as a teenager.
Speaker 2: I can tell you, like any scene in that.
Speaker 3: Comes the matrix shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brown, Yeah, totally. Man, I haven't seen any of
Speaker 2: these fucking movies. Oh, Team America that had a good one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one's a joke. That's not Sincere.
Speaker 2: It's on this list.
Speaker 3: It's on this list, then it's a bad list. It
Speaker 3: should be Sincere.
Speaker 2: This is best sex scenes of all time I'm looking at.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's like a joke. Okay, Like good ones
Speaker 3: are like Pretty Woman.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are well they bang in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys.
Speaker 3: The only time you guys can each think of sex
Speaker 3: scenes is when the matrix camera has like really shot
Speaker 3: up their pussy or like some kind of action sequence
Speaker 3: has occurred right after it.
Speaker 2: What I thought about but didn't say when I was
Speaker 2: trying to think of movie sex scenes. There's the part
Speaker 2: where uh Nicholas Cage and his girlfriend on the roof
Speaker 2: when he before he gets called to Alcatraz and they're
Speaker 2: about to do it on the roof and he gets
Speaker 2: a call from the FBI being like we needed to
Speaker 2: go to Alcatraz, and he's like, thresting, this is not happening,
Speaker 2: Like I remember that, Yeah, I remember romantic sex there
Speaker 2: the ones that matter? Yeah, or like three minutes of
Speaker 2: screen times is cage thrusting into her.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, Like these are They're probably made
Speaker 3: for different people. When you're googling something like best romantic
Speaker 3: sex scenes from the nineties or whatever, these are probably
Speaker 3: going to be more targeted towards like my demographics. I
Speaker 3: understand why you probably haven't watched them. But the great
Speaker 3: equalizer is Wild Things because it's genuinely good and it
Speaker 3: has really hot sex scenes. It's it's the perfect blend
Speaker 3: of both of our worlds. It's got something for everyone.
Speaker 3: I swear to God, I cannot not like.
Speaker 2: I believe it. I believe it from the you know,
Speaker 2: three minutes I've seen of that movie. I could see it.
Speaker 1: I've seen that same three minutes many times.
Speaker 2: The best part that's always on TV. When I was
Speaker 2: a kid trying to turn it on.
Speaker 3: You know, I was rewinding it and playing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh it's this many minutes in Okay, it's hearing
Speaker 2: at one o'clock on HBO. Guess I'm watching that scrambled
Speaker 2: late at night. I'll tune in right, I'll cut away
Speaker 2: from Conan right now, and there we go, and then
Speaker 2: I'll be done and out of breath and back to Conan,
Speaker 2: Back to Conan.
Speaker 1: Okay, just reading these lists of like best secon scenes
Speaker 1: of all time, do you ever get like overwhelmed by
Speaker 1: how many fucking movies have been made? Like what percentage?
Speaker 1: In a good way, but like what percentage of movies
Speaker 1: do you think you've seen? I'm curious I have ever
Speaker 1: been made and published? Like you're like released.
Speaker 3: We'll say it again, how many what.
Speaker 1: Percentage of like the movies ever made do you think
Speaker 1: you've personally seen?
Speaker 2: Well, I've seen one three hundred and nineteen movies according
Speaker 2: to my letterbox. That's so much. I'm not saying, oh,
Speaker 2: there's a lot more than that, for sure, Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, what, I wonder how you even find
Speaker 1: that step? But just watching just reading through this list
Speaker 1: of like best sex scenes, Like god, there are so
Speaker 1: many movies I have not seen and probably never will.
Speaker 2: But there's also you have to like, are we saying,
Speaker 2: like theatrically released, because like, you know, it's like how
Speaker 2: many games came out this year if you count every
Speaker 2: Steam in the every you know, two dollars thing on
Speaker 2: Steam or whatever, everything.
Speaker 1: I ever made. But like still I think if you
Speaker 1: go to like the Criterion Collection or the Criterion Channel,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I've seen like they're
Speaker 1: like film buffs are very impressive to me because I've
Speaker 1: I have not seen a high percentage movie. I've seen
Speaker 1: a lot of movies in my life, but not you know,
Speaker 1: not nearly as much as I could have if I
Speaker 1: focus more on it.
Speaker 2: Well, according to a Reddit thread, which is I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's better or worse than Google AI, as
Speaker 2: of twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen, Hollywood is releasing around
Speaker 2: seven hundred films a.
Speaker 1: Year for how long though, But yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: But like thirties. I don't know when film started, but.
Speaker 1: A lot of the movies on this list probably I
Speaker 1: wonder what, like what they define as Hollywood because yeah,
Speaker 1: to your point, there's a lot of I think acute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you don't count like direct the DVD like
Speaker 2: Aladdin tow stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm counting that there's like a lot of like indie
Speaker 1: gems that people like Chris Plant always tells me about.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Chris, I'm not going to watch this, but but.
Speaker 2: Nowadays it's like the streaming stuff too, is like oh okay.
Speaker 2: Like Palm Springs is definitely a your last movie, even
Speaker 2: though I went straight to Hulu during the pandemic. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's muddy. I guess we'll never know.
Speaker 1: One day we'll know. I guess we'll never know.
Speaker 2: I've seen thirteen hundred and nineteen. I'm so picky with
Speaker 2: my fives. I'm very proud of it. I saw cool movie.
Speaker 2: Can I uh, probably less than maybe around twenty I
Speaker 2: would say. I want to give a suggestion here. Sorcerer.
Speaker 2: Have you heard of this movie?
Speaker 1: Yes? Why? Why is that?
Speaker 2: I actually heard about it? Mary? At your get together
Speaker 2: in Portland a good friend of yours that was there.
Speaker 2: Chris was telling us about his favorite movie and he
Speaker 2: said it was Sorcerer and it's a tangerin dream does
Speaker 2: the soundtrack that did the GGA five soundtrack that had heat,
Speaker 2: They did a thief of James Cohn, so awesome, awesome soundtrack.
Speaker 2: But it stars Roy Scheider, the chief from Jaws and
Speaker 2: it's basically it's almost like dest stranding. It's like it
Speaker 2: definitely seems like something Kajima would have seen.
Speaker 3: It's like nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like it's such a cool concept bank
Speaker 2: and I had never seen anything like this. It's like
Speaker 2: four dudes from different spots in the world all and
Speaker 2: I'm not going to spoil anything. They all just gonna
Speaker 2: get into shit where they need to like skip town.
Speaker 2: So like one of the guys was like a terrorist,
Speaker 2: one of the guys was in the mob and they'd
Speaker 2: gotten some shit. One of the guys got into a
Speaker 2: shaded business thing, need to skip Europe and stuff. They
Speaker 2: all wind up in the same like South American village
Speaker 2: and they're all just kind of like trying to lay
Speaker 2: low off the grid and just going to the shitty
Speaker 2: bar and stay low. And all of a sudden there's
Speaker 2: a problem at like an oil facility or whatever, and
Speaker 2: they need these palettes of extremely volatile dynamite delivered two
Speaker 2: hundred miles.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is the truck on the bridge.
Speaker 2: Yes, And it's like a suicide mission where it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: we need good drivers too, and so like Roy Schider
Speaker 2: plays like a former mob driver, and he has to
Speaker 2: drive this like dynamite that's been leaking and will blow
Speaker 2: the fuck up if there's like you hit a rock
Speaker 2: and he has to drive it two hundred miles. So
Speaker 2: it's just a lot of like four dudes trying not
Speaker 2: to kill each other and kill themselves like very precariously
Speaker 2: transporting dynamite across South America. It is. It is so
Speaker 2: tense and cool, and the soundtracks awesome. I fucking loved it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've I think I've seen that truck scene come
Speaker 1: up on like most tense movie scenes ever, oh many times.
Speaker 1: That's why I recognized the name. I want to watch
Speaker 1: this sounds cool.
Speaker 2: I like huge recommendation for it.
Speaker 1: Have you seen Jaws? There's like a bit. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a shark and it's it sneaks onto the beach and
Speaker 1: dances some the middle of the day. Yeah, oh wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to Sorcerer.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've given forty two five stars, so out of
Speaker 2: my thirteen hundred plus reviews, I've given thirty six five.
Speaker 3: Staries and you gave a five star to Sorcerer poor.
Speaker 2: And a half.
Speaker 1: What's your most recent five How.
Speaker 3: Dare you recommend something you didn't give five stars too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's good.
Speaker 1: Most recently released, most recent that you rated that you saw.
Speaker 2: Oh is there?
Speaker 1: It doesn't show chronologically.
Speaker 2: Sort by win rated, yes, newest first when no, uh oh,
Speaker 2: I guess I went back and uh okay. The last
Speaker 2: three were once I rewatched recently, The Wrestler, Alien and Annihilation.
Speaker 2: Those three I rewatched in the last year, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: those are five star movies. I like, yeah, And before
Speaker 2: that was Rambo, Last Blood and Grimlins two.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 3: A yes, Grimlins two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, Grimlins two is a five star movie.
Speaker 1: I've seen it.
Speaker 5: The sex scene, actually, the last scene in the movie
Speaker 5: is the lady Grimlin kissing on the dude and then
Speaker 5: like looks at the camera with like lips to cons
Speaker 5: all fucked up looking, and then like I think it
Speaker 5: might heart fade into the credits or something like that.
Speaker 2: So it's implied that the Gremlin lady had sex with
Speaker 2: that Henchman guy. Five stars.
Speaker 1: Cool. Cool, you guys want to talk about video games? Oh?
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Speaker 1: Escape here like there's a lot of background noise.
Speaker 2: That was a part Oh okay, put that was not
Speaker 2: That was a crash.
Speaker 3: It looks it sounded like a dog had run into
Speaker 3: a box.
Speaker 2: No, I see the waveform on that part that was
Speaker 2: I trust me, it was a part. I felt it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I almost want to replay it because I
Speaker 3: have to just say, it's incredible to me that your
Speaker 3: farts can sound like an animal rustling in Christmas packages
Speaker 3: under a tree.
Speaker 1: Or calling through a china shop.
Speaker 2: I think the problem is we talked about Costco earlier.
Speaker 2: I bought a giant bag of candy as backup candy
Speaker 2: bag because I want to be the full sized candy
Speaker 2: bar house. So I bought thirty full sized candy bars
Speaker 2: and then if there are more, I've got the backup.
Speaker 2: But I have eaten almost all of this bag of
Speaker 2: the backup candy in the last it's like, ooh, Halloween's
Speaker 2: coming up. I'll throw out the bag after Halloween. But
Speaker 2: after every fucking meal, three meals a day, I'm taking
Speaker 2: so many fucking Skittles and Twizzlers and Nerds and arrowheads
Speaker 2: and Life Savers gummies, and I'm just eating like a
Speaker 2: thousand calories of candy a day. So that's what's going
Speaker 2: on with the part.
Speaker 1: After three each meal, like after breakfast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a lot of skittles after.
Speaker 1: Break it's your breakfast, just skittles.
Speaker 2: No, I'll do I'll do the healthy thing. You know,
Speaker 2: it's cool. I had some oatmeal or avocado toast and
Speaker 2: then skittletown.
Speaker 3: If you think you smelled your fart, do you think
Speaker 3: you could taste the rainbow smell?
Speaker 2: No, it just smelled like a fart. It's still lingering
Speaker 2: in here, so so you can tell ye it is not. No,
Speaker 2: it's Mary farts in here right now.
Speaker 1: Mary, when you got up to when we got up
Speaker 1: to take the break, right before damn left, I was like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, William Freakin directed Sorcerer, why not just
Speaker 1: lead off with that? That would have had me right away?
Speaker 1: Forgot that part some of the best ones ever. But anyway, Mary,
Speaker 1: you've played Zelda now, the Legend of Zelda Echoes of Wisdom.
Speaker 3: Yes, I finally uh got my hands on it. I've
Speaker 3: been delayed, but we are in Gody season, so I've
Speaker 3: really tried to kick it up and make sure that
Speaker 3: I am up to date with the latest that everybody
Speaker 3: else is playing. And I I don't know how far
Speaker 3: I maybe you guys can help me, but I mean
Speaker 3: I have to be like eight or nine hours into
Speaker 3: it now.
Speaker 2: I mean, I full on dungeons have you done?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's a little confusing to
Speaker 3: know what a dungeon is. Is it when you're in
Speaker 3: the cloud.
Speaker 2: World if you got to, well, you do the cloud
Speaker 2: thing to like get into it. But like if there
Speaker 2: was a big key in it in a boss fight.
Speaker 3: I think I've done two big keys, okay.
Speaker 2: Has the map kind of opened up after that? Like
Speaker 2: you did the day with the like, oh, this aura
Speaker 2: is playing their flutes and then you died the desert stuff.
Speaker 3: I've done the desert stuff and I've done the water stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay. I think it's right after those two that I
Speaker 2: started liking it. Like I liked it at the beginning,
Speaker 2: I started really liking it after those two because those
Speaker 2: two in particular are really talky and stuff. There's just
Speaker 2: a lot of like they're so talky. Yeah, I was surprised.
Speaker 2: It's a lot for a Zelda game.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you saying that to me because I've like
Speaker 3: skimmed a couple of reviews and I've played it and
Speaker 3: so far, although I would not say I dislike it,
Speaker 3: it's still Zelda. I mean it's very fun and it's interesting.
Speaker 3: I would say it's one of the weaker Zeldas that
Speaker 3: I've ever played for a couple of reasons. So far
Speaker 3: so far, right, and I have more time to go
Speaker 3: with it. But here's like a couple of my issues.
Speaker 3: One very talky. I just want to play, dude, like,
Speaker 3: leave me alone. I don't understand why everybody wants to
Speaker 3: tell me their life fucking story. Two, I felt a
Speaker 3: couple times that I was punished for investigating areas early.
Speaker 3: And I'll give you an example. In this game, I
Speaker 3: find it fairly linear, despite the fact that it is
Speaker 3: an open map, right, but they've closed a lot of
Speaker 3: spaces off because of the purple cloud shards.
Speaker 1: Or something rifts yeah maybe, yeah.
Speaker 3: The yasma whatever, you know, and it makes it pretty
Speaker 3: limited where you can investigate. And in the water area,
Speaker 3: I started just scoping around in the water because I
Speaker 3: thought it would be fun. And I found this cave
Speaker 3: and I was like, that's so cool. I found an
Speaker 3: underwater cave and I went through this system and I
Speaker 3: got a little uh treasure coat, you know box, and
Speaker 3: it gave me fifty rupees And it wasn't that exac
Speaker 3: I didn't getn item or anything. But I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: I got some money and I investigated this little cave
Speaker 3: and then I started doing the main story. And then
Speaker 3: later on in the main story, they were like, my
Speaker 3: son's stuck in a cave, and it took me to
Speaker 3: the same cave system I had already discovered and investigated
Speaker 3: and enjoyed, but now there was a kid in it,
Speaker 3: and I had to redo the exact same cave system
Speaker 3: it already had. My my treasure was already opened because
Speaker 3: I had already discovered this space it, enjoyed it, and
Speaker 3: I just had to They literally made me redo the
Speaker 3: exact same puzzles so that I could free the child
Speaker 3: who was stuck in the cave systems. And I thought
Speaker 3: to myself, you know, if you're gonna punish me, I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's a punishment, but like, if you're
Speaker 3: just gonna make me redo this because I didn't do
Speaker 3: it in order that the game wanted me to do it,
Speaker 3: why did you let me do it?
Speaker 2: This is really annoying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't let me do it and have.
Speaker 2: Something block it off until a story event happens.
Speaker 1: Or something, or if like in Tears the Kingdom I
Speaker 1: feel like if it was a open world Zelda, you
Speaker 1: would have come across that kid first, and then you
Speaker 1: you what, he would have been like, oh, thanks, you
Speaker 1: helped me out, and then he would go back to
Speaker 1: the village and then it would adapt. So she's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I heard you got my son out, Thank you or whatever.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent thank you. That's exactly what I was
Speaker 3: hoping for. It's like, if I had discovered it out
Speaker 3: of order, an open world game should have accounted for
Speaker 3: that and then told the person my son told me,
Speaker 3: you got me out, you got him out, so we
Speaker 3: can skip this part of the story. Like there was
Speaker 3: just something about it that was like, it's open world,
Speaker 3: but if you do that cave system before we want
Speaker 3: you to do it, we're gonna make you fucking do
Speaker 3: it again because we're not ready for you to do
Speaker 3: it yet. And it's just like, well, then it's not
Speaker 3: open world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I totally get what you're saying. Like, if
Speaker 2: a game is open world like that, that was part
Speaker 2: of my big argument about Red Dead two is like
Speaker 2: big open world Rockstar game, but then like, oh, I
Speaker 2: veered from the path for two seconds and the like
Speaker 2: failed my mission it's like, well, don't fucking sell me
Speaker 2: on this big world.
Speaker 1: And so seldom in Red Dead two, I won't have
Speaker 1: happen enough to me. I've got another bonu pick with
Speaker 1: you tonight, so I'm just getting warmed up. I wonder
Speaker 1: I like, uh, echoes wisdom a plot, but there are
Speaker 1: I talked about this last episode. It does feel like
Speaker 1: one of the messier Zelda's I've played, even considering like
Speaker 1: Breath of the Wild and Tiers of Kingdom's frame rate issues.
Speaker 1: This like, I actually, so, I think I've done three
Speaker 1: three more dungeons since last we spokes a five total,
Speaker 1: so you're near the end. I've got another like three,
Speaker 1: I think three dungeons. I think there's six after you
Speaker 1: do the two initial ones. Six after wow, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: three or four after two? Like look at yeah, it
Speaker 1: looks like there's room for three more. Maybe I've only
Speaker 1: done two.
Speaker 3: There's like six items and I only have like one
Speaker 3: of them. So there's so many thingies I still need
Speaker 3: to get from.
Speaker 2: There's some weird things that you get only if you
Speaker 2: do this particular thing and you'll occasionally use It's. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's messy in a few different ways. Like you know,
Speaker 2: there's there's frame rate, you brought that up. There's things
Speaker 2: where it's like, yeah, it's open, but because you can
Speaker 2: break stuff, you can also get to step out of order.
Speaker 2: Like from what I'm hearing here, I think we're all
Speaker 2: roughly on the same page of this game. Where's I
Speaker 2: think we appreciate what it's doing. We generally like it,
Speaker 2: but like there are things that annoy us about it
Speaker 2: to the point where it's like, I do wonder if
Speaker 2: this will place on the top ten for us?
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I think it's it's it's I have
Speaker 3: issues with it, you know, and I am enjoying it,
Speaker 3: and I do want to say, like what I'm worried
Speaker 3: is that we're holding it to this really high caliber.
Speaker 3: Because it's Zelda, I just expect it to be so
Speaker 3: fucking perfect. I was shocked that in the first boss fight,
Speaker 3: I was like, am I just supposed to throw tables
Speaker 3: at it? And like, I think a lot of people
Speaker 3: probably had this like weird reaction of like what am
Speaker 3: I supposed to do in this boss fight? But usually
Speaker 3: in Zelda's they're just so clean about guiding you and
Speaker 3: coddling you of what you should be focused on. During
Speaker 3: every boss fight, even if it is very open and
Speaker 3: you can do it however the fuck you want. In
Speaker 3: Tears of the Kingdom, they were always like, so we're
Speaker 3: teaching you this very specific skill. The entire dungeon and
Speaker 3: the boss fight will also use this skill.
Speaker 2: It's all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But in the first boss in this game, you're
Speaker 3: just stuck with this boss and you can only make
Speaker 3: like three things, and so I just kept throwing tables
Speaker 3: at it until it died.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the first one was very much just you
Speaker 1: gotta warp transform into Link and hit his weak spot like.
Speaker 3: That was why I could not do that. I threw
Speaker 3: tables at that bitch for like ten minutes.
Speaker 2: Styles.
Speaker 1: That's one thing like this, even if you're probably very right,
Speaker 1: Like if it wasn't a Zelda game, I I wonder
Speaker 1: if I even would have played it, because I like
Speaker 1: this game a lot of its ideas more than I
Speaker 1: like the execution. The so many of the echoes, like
Speaker 1: the ones that attack things, their pathing is just awful
Speaker 1: and they miss. And I realized that there are things
Speaker 1: that are going to be better at The sharks are
Speaker 1: gonna be One of the better things. Is someone in
Speaker 1: water This far in the some of the birds are
Speaker 1: just better at taking out other birds. But like, this
Speaker 1: game does feel like a collection of really cool ideas
Speaker 1: that it's a bit rough around the edges, and I'm
Speaker 1: still really enjoying. I think it's in my personal top
Speaker 1: ten of the year, but probably it's very low. It's
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I also it just like even
Speaker 1: I tried doing what you and Grubb said, Dan and
Speaker 1: opening the grid to pick an item, even then, I
Speaker 1: was like, I still preferred the just use my go
Speaker 1: back to the on the dpad for the most recent
Speaker 1: ones because more often than I was using a recent one.
Speaker 2: But like water always there. Yeah, and I don't.
Speaker 1: Know what the solve would be for that. Maybe a
Speaker 1: series of rings that you get like Dishonored two style,
Speaker 1: like a weapon that you go through.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just so many and there's a lot.
Speaker 2: Oh and it gets worse. I bet it does, because I'm.
Speaker 3: Very early and I'm like, I have so much shit.
Speaker 3: I don't understand why they let you duplicate so many items.
Speaker 3: I can see the creativity, but it's also like you're
Speaker 3: confusing me, like.
Speaker 2: Two kinds of rocks and then yeah, just so.
Speaker 3: Many types of enemies, and now they've added like enemies
Speaker 3: with uh with metal and stuff and statues, and it's
Speaker 3: like if these are for puzzles and I'm never gonna
Speaker 3: need them again, You're just adding these to my very
Speaker 3: full repertoire, and I'm like a little overwhelmed with choice.
Speaker 2: It's like the resident Evil thing where it's like you
Speaker 2: use a key. I love it when it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: you don't need this any more? Do you want to
Speaker 2: throw it away? It's like, oh, thanks for telling me
Speaker 2: that game.
Speaker 1: There's I also in a bigger sense, and this might
Speaker 1: be unfair, and tell me if it is the fact
Speaker 1: that you have this ability to become the character that
Speaker 1: we were so excited that for once we were like
Speaker 1: getting away from and you use it to do damage.
Speaker 1: It's like, why wouldn't I warp into link if I'm
Speaker 1: getting frustrated because these birds won't be hitten and like
Speaker 1: the Eater. By the time you get to like the
Speaker 1: fourth dungeon, the meter is pretty generous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was like, hop out kind It's like
Speaker 2: it Zelda's game, but you can be like if you
Speaker 2: want to do real damage.
Speaker 1: Want to actually do damage, and like, yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm definitely meeting the game halfway to do the creative stuff,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate for what it's doing, but like, this
Speaker 1: feels like a not a first draft. That's very unfair,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know this, this feels like it needed
Speaker 1: a few more edit pass.
Speaker 3: I agree with you. It feels like a hack week concept.
Speaker 3: And then someone was like, I'm making a real game and.
Speaker 1: Say that it but it's still I still think this
Speaker 1: is a good game. It's just this is It's like
Speaker 1: it gets really frustrating sometimes. But yeah, I really like
Speaker 1: when I saw that you could transform into link with
Speaker 1: like the robe, I was like, or the sword. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I was like I didn't want like I was.
Speaker 2: It was go all the way in if you commit
Speaker 2: to the bit and if you're gonna do it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: It's funny the the weight that a series name will
Speaker 2: will carry into a new game, Like you know, we're
Speaker 2: all talking about like your expectations of Zelda going in.
Speaker 2: It's got the name on it. And I remember Spirit
Speaker 2: Tracks came out for the s and we gave it
Speaker 2: an eight a Game Informer, and I remember at the
Speaker 2: Game of the Year meetings that year when we're trying
Speaker 2: to whittle our list down. Spear tracks came up and
Speaker 2: like all of us were shitting on it. We're all
Speaker 2: we're all just sitting in the meeting and just being like,
Speaker 2: oh man, it's like there's no real overworld. You're just
Speaker 2: in these fucking train tracks. It sucks. It sucks. And
Speaker 2: I think Andy McNamara or someone was like, well, we
Speaker 2: gave it an eight. It sounds like everyone hates it,
Speaker 2: and Matt Helgeson was like, yeah, but at Zelda, so
Speaker 2: I think it was kind of it was a gentleman's eight.
Speaker 2: It was Zelda. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And to be clear, like when Breath of the Wild
Speaker 1: kind of came out and did something, you know, big
Speaker 1: and bold, I was all for it. And like I
Speaker 1: remember during the Game of the Year at GameSpot that
Speaker 1: got heated because the only argument people could make against
Speaker 1: Breath of the Wild aside from the frame rate issues,
Speaker 1: was but it's not a Zelda game.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, shut up, yeah, And.
Speaker 1: I was like and then again, like the more we
Speaker 1: talked about, the more like we wrote. Oli Welsh wrote
Speaker 1: a really good up at on Polygon when I was there,
Speaker 1: like this is the closest any Zelda game. This is
Speaker 1: basically they took the idea of the very first Zelda
Speaker 1: game but made it in twenty twenty seventeen. So like
Speaker 1: in the middle of the map, Yeah, I have fun,
Speaker 1: so like in essence, it's the most Zelda ass game
Speaker 1: ever made. But again I was like the first one
Speaker 1: to fire back. I'm like, I want Zelda to evolve,
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, like when it plays with
Speaker 1: this structure that we understand as Zelda. Like Mary you mentioned,
Speaker 1: like my favorite Zelda games are still I mean, Bretha
Speaker 1: Woldteers the King am I almost to my maybe counter
Speaker 1: to my point, I almost don't count them among my
Speaker 1: Like I'm talking when I say my favorite zeld the
Speaker 1: game is my favorite traditional ones like Akarina Majora, like
Speaker 1: the sixty four era or I don't know, I really
Speaker 1: like Link between Worlds. But I'm all for them for
Speaker 1: it evolving. But uh, and I'm very glad I was
Speaker 1: a wisdom is even a thing and that it's such
Speaker 1: a full fledged Zelda game. But yeah, got it. The
Speaker 1: more I play it, the more I'm simultaneously impressed and
Speaker 1: frustrated because of the rough edges.
Speaker 2: It's flawed for sure. Yeah, No, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I'll forget it anytime soon, which is more than I
Speaker 1: can for some like really tight, boring games.
Speaker 2: We were you know, we will need to figure out
Speaker 2: what we're talking about, game of the year and stuff. Here.
Speaker 2: We're kind of talking a little bit off mic about
Speaker 2: the homework assignments we want to give each other because
Speaker 2: literally the next episode is our game of your episode
Speaker 2: just insane to think about. So we made a little
Speaker 2: doc here of like, okay, games that we think everyone
Speaker 2: else should play beforehand, because we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: it quite a bit. My two U we'll talk about
Speaker 2: more in a bed Echo Point Nova and UFO fifty.
Speaker 2: Do you guys have any off the top of your heads?
Speaker 3: Oh, off the top of our heads. We also have
Speaker 3: to have maxes for games that we should all play
Speaker 3: because I think I think while you can obviously put,
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say this while I buy time for
Speaker 3: us to think about our games. But it's like, while
Speaker 3: we could all say like, well you better uh put,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can't even think of any right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like two two two seems fair if you.
Speaker 3: Like is it two? Is it five? Like I'm not
Speaker 3: going to play ten, like you're definitely gonna ru fifty.
Speaker 1: Fifty UFO fifties already.
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna play all of them. You better tell
Speaker 3: me your favorite.
Speaker 1: Nova was not on my list.
Speaker 2: I will talk about that in the bid here. Did
Speaker 2: did you both play Prince of Persia the Last Crown? Yepkay?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah we raved about that the beginning.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we played about Prince of Persia. I think
Speaker 3: that's fair cro country on there. To be honest with you,
Speaker 3: I think that's yeah. That's going to be for.
Speaker 1: Those too that that I want to play. Just out
Speaker 1: of my own excitement.
Speaker 3: I'll put it on there because I didn't think you
Speaker 3: guys would play it, which is why it's probably worth That's.
Speaker 2: What this is for. This is for the homework.
Speaker 1: Going to say, Marry, we've been playing survival horror games together.
Speaker 1: Literally the series inspired this game.
Speaker 3: But where have you been?
Speaker 2: What are we doing?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, we'll need to play Rise the Golden Idol. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's coming out between now and the end of the year.
Speaker 2: I gotta play the last one under the Wire. I
Speaker 2: think Dragon.
Speaker 1: Dragon I need to play. Sorry, I'm glad to see
Speaker 1: that's the kind of attitude. I got a bone to
Speaker 1: pick with you about a certain game that you want
Speaker 1: to Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know where we're going here. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: I sat down to Metaphor Refensasio and I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: so I'll play and then maybe tonight I'll get to
Speaker 1: that part that Dan mentioned that pushed him away, because
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's really far into the game.
Speaker 2: It wasn't just that part.
Speaker 1: But you said, how long did you play that game?
Speaker 2: Twelve minutes?
Speaker 1: Twelve minutes? Do you sincerely think that that's giving a
Speaker 1: game a chance? No?
Speaker 3: Why did you?
Speaker 1: Why did you? Like? You had this preamble about how
Speaker 1: noble you were for giving a game of chance and
Speaker 1: meeting it halfway? That was not a bit. Maybe in
Speaker 1: retrospect you're painting it as a bit. You were being serious.
Speaker 1: You thought that was like being all like high and
Speaker 1: mighty and being like.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was because I was open to a personal
Speaker 2: growth moment. Am I giving this game a shot? I'm growing? No,
Speaker 2: I'm not giving myself any credit because I lasted twelve
Speaker 2: minutes for the fuck this shit like, So that's not
Speaker 2: personal growth. That's me doing everything I've always done so
Speaker 2: now all as a person there, Okay, at.
Speaker 1: Least you acknowledge that.
Speaker 2: Now that we're for twelve minutes, I was a big man,
Speaker 2: last big man.
Speaker 1: It's longer than I.
Speaker 2: My anime game about Mike Kings and Magic. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: it's I'm sure it's a really good game.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm digging that game a lot. And that's
Speaker 1: and that's I'm not going to give that to anybody
Speaker 1: like I think Jake and I are the only ones.
Speaker 1: Jake's put way more time into it. I can't give
Speaker 1: you that. It's one hundred and twenty hours. If you
Speaker 1: finish it, that's not happening. Like, I'm not asking to
Speaker 1: play it, but for it.
Speaker 2: I'll quit the podcast if you put that on this dog.
Speaker 1: For what it's worth, that game.
Speaker 3: You have the ability to do the funniest thing right.
Speaker 2: Now in the call. All right, you're right, it would
Speaker 2: be funny.
Speaker 3: I consider it with my bits fire Escape is canceled
Speaker 3: and the funniest bit Dan has ever done.
Speaker 2: It would be really good. Mike, tell us about your
Speaker 2: your Magic game.
Speaker 1: I'm fifteen hours in, so not that far. I finished
Speaker 1: the first Palace you've done.
Speaker 2: What have you?
Speaker 1: I'm using Palace because that was persona no inenclature. But God,
Speaker 1: for as much as that game annoys me, it also
Speaker 1: impresses the hell out of me. Like similar to Persona
Speaker 1: five and four, those are the only two I've played
Speaker 1: very slow start I Also, it's not just I'm fine
Speaker 1: with the game being talky as long as it's done well,
Speaker 1: and much of this game has actually done surprise like
Speaker 1: the Overwooking story I really like. But so many times
Speaker 1: the game says eight things when it could just say one.
Speaker 1: And also just as often it's almost like they're recapping
Speaker 1: every single scene right after it happens. That kind of
Speaker 1: writing annoys me. When this game gets out of its
Speaker 1: own way, similar to Persona five, when it's talkie and
Speaker 1: you know, a meaningful way to like ramp up drama
Speaker 1: on the way to your next big mission, then it's
Speaker 1: super fun. The momentum gets going. Possibly one of my
Speaker 1: favorite RPG combat systems ever. Octopath Traveler two was the
Speaker 1: most recent one, or Octopath Traveler one and two where
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, this is incredible. I
Speaker 1: thought Persona five's combat was fine. It wasn't, you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't super building on the earlier on four at
Speaker 1: least again that's the only other one I've played in
Speaker 1: huge ways, but metaphors Combat is one of those things
Speaker 1: where the more I play it, the more I enjoy it,
Speaker 1: which in a genre I think many people associate with grinding,
Speaker 1: which you can do here. I think that's pretty impressive
Speaker 1: using weaknesses to basically chain chain a series of attacks,
Speaker 1: as opposed to Persona five, where you use an enemy's
Speaker 1: weakness and it stuns them. The objective there was to
Speaker 1: stun all them once, so then you could use these
Speaker 1: group of attacks.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: The weakness does a little bit more damage to the enemy,
Speaker 1: but it only costs you half a turn. So then
Speaker 1: if you have three characters, that means you have three turns.
Speaker 1: If you hit an enemy with a weakness every time,
Speaker 1: or get a critical, and there's a few other criteria,
Speaker 1: you can actually double that turn count. As a few
Speaker 1: people have told me, you can actually start to do
Speaker 1: more with that throughout the game. But I'm just finished
Speaker 1: the first palace. I love the character designed so far.
Speaker 1: Some of the characters are more just more compelling than others.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to building up my party much more
Speaker 1: like you do in Persona. You unlock these new people,
Speaker 1: but I also really like the flexibility. I think I've
Speaker 1: said this before on fire Escape, but I'm not a
Speaker 1: respec person in games. It makes me like, do.
Speaker 2: I appreciate your cheating?
Speaker 1: It's it to me. It's like I have spent the
Speaker 1: last like twenty five hours getting into the muscle memory
Speaker 1: and like building out this character. Like Dieblo Forore, it's
Speaker 1: just as easy. You can refund all your skills. I
Speaker 1: appreciate the option, but like it's almost overwhelming to think.
Speaker 1: It's like, it took me this long to really feel
Speaker 1: comfortable with this character. I don't know if I could
Speaker 1: just start from scratch and also have to learn like
Speaker 1: eight things at once. Metaphor is one of those games
Speaker 1: that it's actually doing a great job of encouraging me
Speaker 1: to switch out their archetypes. Those are just their They're
Speaker 1: like persone that come in and do their elemental attacks
Speaker 1: and their magical attacks. They're healing their buffs, that anything
Speaker 1: that's not just using their sword to hit the enemy
Speaker 1: in the face. You can swap them pretty much at will.
Speaker 1: At a certain point, you also start unlocking new slots
Speaker 1: to inherit them skills from other archetypes. So then let's
Speaker 1: say you could be the healer, but you can also
Speaker 1: inherit skills from the brawler. It was like a job system, yeah, basically,
Speaker 1: and there's really no penalty for switching at any point,
Speaker 1: aside from the fact that you just won't be progressing
Speaker 1: through that archtype skills. The boss fights are generally really
Speaker 1: well designed. I've only done like two major boss fights,
Speaker 1: have done some other like mini bosses that are just
Speaker 1: kind of it's more about the spectacle. And then lastly,
Speaker 1: the world building is just unlike anything I've seen before.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's a lot of like fantasy, medieval
Speaker 1: florid bullshit. But anytime I'm like, okay, I've seen enough
Speaker 1: of this in video games. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like the depot, the dead king will then rise up
Speaker 1: out of the castle as this floating upside down volcano
Speaker 1: with a lava face, and he'll tell everybody that he's
Speaker 1: like he's instituting this contest for the next king. And
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you find out that humans
Speaker 1: are like the monsters in this world. So you fight humans.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's crazy, we're the walking dead.
Speaker 1: Yeah we're the monsters, but they're actually monsters.
Speaker 3: So like an enemys, we're actually the people the whole time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be it'll be like a giant bird's egg
Speaker 1: with a human face sticking out of it, and then
Speaker 1: there's a spear through the length of the egg, so
Speaker 1: it looks like your dick. But then he's got like
Speaker 1: fishnet stocking legs. It just sounds like a really sexy
Speaker 1: mister potato head, I know. But yeah, the enemy design
Speaker 1: has definitely got that Atlas trademark at weird Atlas vibe.
Speaker 2: To it all.
Speaker 1: Again, I'm not trying to sell you too. It especial
Speaker 1: because it's a hundred twenty hours, but I'm liking it
Speaker 1: a lot so far. And you know, Jake has told
Speaker 1: me that the combat keeps getting better, which I'm excited
Speaker 1: about because anytime I feel like I've really wrapped my
Speaker 1: head around everything, it does introduced things at a good clip.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna keep playing see if the impressive moments
Speaker 1: outweigh the frustrating moments, which again, so many times I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, done with I I appreciate talking, but you
Speaker 1: just said the same thing four times in a row,
Speaker 1: and I just want to I'm trying to ask through
Speaker 1: the thought bubbles or the dialogue bubbles, et cetera. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see, we're gona keep playing it. Okay, cool Dan?
Speaker 1: What is Echo Point Nova? Did I say that correctly?
Speaker 2: Echo Point Nova? This? Have either of you heard of this?
Speaker 3: No? I'm shocked. I looked it up because I hadn't
Speaker 3: heard of it, and it's so odd to me that
Speaker 3: this has never come up before. I don't even how
Speaker 3: did you find this? This is a first person A couple.
Speaker 2: Of people specifically brought it up to me as sounding
Speaker 2: like a Dan ass Dan game. I think Bonk and
Speaker 2: Grub both were like, have you heard of this game?
Speaker 2: You should check this out, and they were right. It
Speaker 2: is super open world, just a bunch of sky islands,
Speaker 2: and instantly you were just like dropped in no fucking story.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And it's just like you're getting weapons, you're getting abilities,
Speaker 2: like okay, you're here's your double jump. Now you got
Speaker 2: a grappling hook and you can grapple clouds. You can
Speaker 2: just like swing around these sky islands by grabbing clouds.
Speaker 2: You can grapple enemies and go to them. You have
Speaker 2: a hoverboard, so your sprint button basically at any point
Speaker 2: whipped out like a hoverboard and you're like just wall sliding,
Speaker 2: sliding up these islands, just going crazy. It is. There's
Speaker 2: agility orbs like crackdown. So there's all sorts of like, okay,
Speaker 2: you got this next ugility thing. You now have a
Speaker 2: quadruple jump, and now you've got this butt stump that
Speaker 2: makes this explosion happen. And it's just a bunch of
Speaker 2: like platforming around these islands. And then there's a combat
Speaker 2: arenas on the islands where it's like, okay, press this
Speaker 2: button to start the arena and here's twenty four dudes
Speaker 2: and you're just hoverboarding around, slowing down time, grappling to people,
Speaker 2: fucking running into them with a hoverboard and sending them
Speaker 2: flying off an island. It is like weird physics and stuff.
Speaker 2: It is the most dewey ass game you could ever imagine.
Speaker 2: It all feels so good, almost like JANKI in a
Speaker 2: good way where it's like I should not be able
Speaker 2: to be vertically hoverboarding up this island while shooting a
Speaker 2: bunch of dudes to it. It is. It is. So we
Speaker 2: did a co op stream on Giant Bomb and it
Speaker 2: was a blast. It was like I was loving it.
Speaker 2: Solo and then we got four of us in there,
Speaker 2: and it's just four of us hoverboarding around, just doing
Speaker 2: crazy flips and killing everyone. It is. It is a
Speaker 2: game made for me, and I think I think both
Speaker 2: of you could appreciate equip it actively and make for
Speaker 2: a pretty good page run video.
Speaker 1: The Steam like, uh, the Steam trailer just video gameplay
Speaker 1: is mesmerizing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just super fast paced. It is, but you
Speaker 2: feel like you have set.
Speaker 3: A part of it doesn't seem like it. There's no,
Speaker 3: it's not like a speed runny game, but it has
Speaker 3: a visual style that it's like a speed run game,
Speaker 3: but it's not.
Speaker 2: No, it's not like titan Fall meets like a your
Speaker 2: foot game. It's kind of got that look to it
Speaker 2: where it's like it looks like it should be a
Speaker 2: speed run thing, Mary, but it's like you can take
Speaker 2: your time, and like there's parts if you don't activate,
Speaker 2: like a combat encounter, you could really just spend as
Speaker 2: long as you want exploring, like opening up the map
Speaker 2: and getting agility orbs, and like it's very generous with
Speaker 2: spawn points and stuff. Basically anytime you're on solid ground,
Speaker 2: it's just like okay, you can spawn here, you can
Speaker 2: fast travel here. It's like there's no barrier to having
Speaker 2: fun here. You're just hopping in immediately immediately getting all
Speaker 2: these abilities fast travels, easy deaths, are quick respawns. Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, all all the weapons level up individually just
Speaker 2: by using them, so like, oh, I'm using this grenade
Speaker 2: launcher a lot. Oh now the explosion has a bigger radius. Oh,
Speaker 2: now I've got these HG rounds for it. You unlock
Speaker 2: skins like unlockables for all the different weapons. Grenade's on
Speaker 2: a cool down, so it's not a lot of like
Speaker 2: collecting stuff. It is a Oh man, it is a
Speaker 2: game made for me. It is fantastic. So it went
Speaker 2: from me not knowing what it was to very quickly
Speaker 2: into my time with it being like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: going to be on my top ten for sure. This
Speaker 2: is awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was seeing a quote that it looks like
Speaker 1: titan or it plays like Titan Fall meets Doom meets
Speaker 1: Tony Hawk.
Speaker 2: I think that's a great way to put it.
Speaker 1: It also kind of looks like Edge Runner, was it.
Speaker 2: It is made by the developers of Severed Steel, which
Speaker 2: I don't remember if I played that, but it was
Speaker 2: a similar Yeah, platforming speed thing. Yeah, but checking recommendation
Speaker 2: it is a great. Oh it's an amazing podcast game.
Speaker 2: If you just want to have something on the background
Speaker 2: and just go to town, you're not going to miss anything.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 1: Are you playing on with mouse and keyboard or a controller?
Speaker 2: I was playing on controller until we did that multiplayer
Speaker 2: stream and everyone peer pressured and mocked me for playing
Speaker 2: a first person shooter with a controller, and I switched
Speaker 2: the mouse and keyboard. It's like, man, there's a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of more buttons and you can ham realm. Turns
Speaker 2: out it maybe these kids with their mice and keyboards,
Speaker 2: this new fan thing might might.
Speaker 3: Be onto something in PC gamers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they're onto some that's thing. I play pacy
Speaker 2: games all the time, but just always with the controller.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's uh.
Speaker 3: I like a controller. I like the way it fits
Speaker 3: in my hand, and I like the way it feels
Speaker 3: for everything except for an FPS. When you're playing an FPS,
Speaker 3: that's when it changes because you want the mouse for
Speaker 3: your retical for everything else. I do really like a controller.
Speaker 1: I still think like with a game like this where
Speaker 1: it's like wall running and sliding and whatnot, that never
Speaker 1: feels as set. I prefer mouse and keyboard most of
Speaker 1: the time, but that never feels as satisfying to me
Speaker 1: on a mouse and keyboard.
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like, like with stuff like grapple hooks
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, I feel like it is more
Speaker 2: natural for me at least to hit LB instead of
Speaker 2: like Q. You know, like it feels like you're doing like,
Speaker 2: you know, a bunch of stuff with their hand. Here,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh fuck, I gotta go over this. Wait,
Speaker 2: what was croudch It's almost a little too much where
Speaker 2: it's like my brain maps to a controller easier. But
Speaker 2: it's probably just because I didn't grow up playing PC games. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's how I think. I think both of you
Speaker 2: would enjoy it quite a bit. It's it's a lot of.
Speaker 1: Fun, all right, Cool, I'll play it.
Speaker 2: Cool Mary.
Speaker 1: What's night Trap? Okay?
Speaker 3: This is a short one. It's the Night Trap. I
Speaker 3: was told that Vinnie has played this before and it's
Speaker 3: like a thing, but I had never heard of it.
Speaker 3: If you look up.
Speaker 2: The yeah, like live.
Speaker 3: Action and you have to sometimes. I've never played it.
Speaker 3: I've never played.
Speaker 2: Al Gore's wife, Tipper brought this to Congress and was
Speaker 2: very upset about it. Mortal Combat rating system stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right.
Speaker 3: So I what I'm bringing up?
Speaker 5: Gore?
Speaker 2: Who's Trap? I'm old? Who's Al Gore?
Speaker 3: Who's Tipper Gore? Imagine I imagine naming someone Tipper.
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton was involved.
Speaker 3: To my mad and friend Silver invited me to play
Speaker 3: a Halloween game on their stream and I was allowed
Speaker 3: to pick any game I wanted, and I was searching
Speaker 3: through all these different Halloween games and I have not
Speaker 3: played this, and everybody else knows about it, and it's
Speaker 3: obviously very beloved and known in game or lore. And
Speaker 3: I was like to say, I guess that's true because
Speaker 3: I beat it and it took I think it took
Speaker 3: three hours for me to get through this son of
Speaker 3: a bitch. It is very complicated, but it's also a
Speaker 3: beloved game where it's live action of a party or
Speaker 3: maybe yeah, like a teen party, where things go wrong
Speaker 3: and you hit the traps that grab people that either
Speaker 3: save the day or if you miss too many of them,
Speaker 3: and it's insane the percentage of uh you have to get.
Speaker 3: I think it's like if you go under seventy five
Speaker 3: percent or seventy percent of the times, you're supposed to
Speaker 3: trap people. You just lose, You just straight up lose,
Speaker 3: and then you have to do it all over again.
Speaker 3: And so it's a really annoying mechanic and poorly executed
Speaker 3: before it's time. Quite innovative with the fact that, like
Speaker 3: you're looking at all these different screens in security cam
Speaker 3: footage to know which trap to hit at the right
Speaker 3: time to stop these teams from essentially dying. And it's
Speaker 3: crazy how interesting and innovative it was probably at its time,
Speaker 3: and how it's probably inspired a lot of games that
Speaker 3: are modern and beloved now, like Five Nights at Freddy's Right,
Speaker 3: where you're like skipping through security cams to find out
Speaker 3: which one you should be looking at it any given time.
Speaker 3: It's not scary, it's more like funny and a bit
Speaker 3: of a joke for eighties style humor. But I had
Speaker 3: a really good time playing it. I think, like, I'm
Speaker 3: glad it's in my gamer repertoire now, like I'll probably
Speaker 3: like bring it up. And then the lore that everyone
Speaker 3: talks about is that this game was how it came
Speaker 3: to be that now we have ESRB ratings because I
Speaker 3: guess there was a scene where a girl is like
Speaker 3: in a ninety and she gets like grabbed, she gets killed.
Speaker 3: It's not like syringe, like a like a needle in
Speaker 3: her neck, but it's it's it's not to injector. It's
Speaker 3: like like a rod goes into their body and they die.
Speaker 3: And that's the footage that they gave the government, which
Speaker 3: was like you have to start monitoring these games because
Speaker 3: they're killing scantily clad women in them, and that's how
Speaker 3: we got the ESRB.
Speaker 2: Well, and yeah, that's the thing is like that was
Speaker 2: so like you know, early nineties, and you know, up
Speaker 2: until then, it was like pixels and ape and stuff.
Speaker 2: Mario and they really freaked out with Mortal Kombat being
Speaker 2: digitized actors and night Trap and it's like these are
Speaker 2: people and where these are realistic depictions of violence in
Speaker 2: something that is like definitely then seen as this is
Speaker 2: a children, these are toys. This is for children. And
Speaker 2: so yeah, Tipper Gore and Hillary Clinton like brought them
Speaker 2: to Congress being like, look at this shit. We cannot
Speaker 2: allow this. This needs to be regulated. And so yeah
Speaker 2: that at the time, it was like a thirteen m
Speaker 2: a seventeen. Like I remember that being like when I
Speaker 2: was reading video game magazines back then that was the
Speaker 2: hot topic is like, oh god, have games gone too far?
Speaker 2: Is this going to ruin a generation of children? And
Speaker 2: Night Trap and specifically alas seeing that fucking screenshot of
Speaker 2: the girl with the big cartoon syringe in her neck
Speaker 2: and then you'd be like next to a picture of
Speaker 2: like sub zero holding ahead with the spine coming out
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: So where'd you It's actually relatively tame, Mike, have you
Speaker 3: seen any footage of this game? Are you like looking
Speaker 3: at it? It's like, yeah, it's a it's relatively tame, Like, yes,
Speaker 3: there are some like sexy people in it, but it's
Speaker 3: nothing sinister or like really slutty or gory happens at all.
Speaker 2: No Wild Things.
Speaker 3: It's No Wild Things, which does have a rating I
Speaker 3: believe of R and has really earned it for really
Speaker 3: big titties all up in your face.
Speaker 2: That's what the arm meats.
Speaker 3: It's incredible they really did earn that. Night Trip is
Speaker 3: like when you trap someone, it'll it'll be like they
Speaker 3: go in a hole and it's like what happened to them?
Speaker 3: And it's like, well you killed them, and it's like
Speaker 3: but nothing, you don't see them die like you don't
Speaker 3: hear them. It's just a hole.
Speaker 1: It's like the Megan Fox from Teeth, except it's a
Speaker 1: bigger one.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I don't think it earned the ESRB rating system,
Speaker 3: but it took me three hours to get through it.
Speaker 3: I probably won't play it again for fun, but I
Speaker 3: could absolutely see myself like putting this game in to
Speaker 3: show a niece or like a family member or a
Speaker 3: friend and be like, you have to play this absurd
Speaker 3: game that I cannot believe existed, and it's got good lore.
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety two is when it came out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like as a historical piece, it's like an important
Speaker 2: moment in video games as much as like the game itself.
Speaker 2: I feel like if it wasn't for the controversy, it
Speaker 2: would just be another one of those like FMB games
Speaker 2: of the early nineties where they didn't have that stuff
Speaker 2: figured out yet. But because of the controversy, it really
Speaker 2: is an infamous Yeah, well, not.
Speaker 3: Too much more to say about it. I'm glad I
Speaker 3: played it. I'm glad that silver Streak, who also streams,
Speaker 3: he was the one who like came up with the
Speaker 3: idea and was like, let's play a horror game. Uh yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the secret and it's funny, like a lot of
Speaker 3: people probably knew that, but for anyone who didn't know,
Speaker 3: that is the lore of night Trap and the ESRB
Speaker 3: rating system, which is pretty interesting history.
Speaker 1: With Mary as our first segment, we'll be doing that
Speaker 1: every single episode. Mary, now you need to bring in
Speaker 1: a little history tidbit to every episode.
Speaker 3: I have a really nice song for it.
Speaker 1: The more you know, yeah, Dan, I saw you're playing
Speaker 1: Black Ops six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, holy shit. I feel like I went from really yeah,
Speaker 2: I played every Call of Duty a lot, you know,
Speaker 2: pull on like prestiging numerous times, from like you know,
Speaker 2: Call of Duty two on the three sixty up until
Speaker 2: god like there's infinite warfare, advanced warfare ghosts, Like I'm
Speaker 2: still doing every entry then and like I think the
Speaker 2: one where I started fall off the every year was
Speaker 2: like Black Ops four. Was that the one that was
Speaker 2: like mainly war zone there was no campaign, there was
Speaker 2: no campaign. And then it went back to like I
Speaker 2: didn't play w DOWE two. I just like that's been
Speaker 2: done to death.
Speaker 1: What you just said w w E two.
Speaker 2: No I didn't, Yes you did, No, I didn't w
Speaker 2: W two. I might have said it weird. I played
Speaker 2: the business.
Speaker 1: World War two. I'm sorry, I thought you said w
Speaker 1: w E two. Okay, No, World War two, Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: It was a shoot. It really happened. So so I
Speaker 2: fell off. Yeah, Black Ops four, w DOW two. I
Speaker 2: didn't play a lot of what was after that.
Speaker 1: I didn't play Cold War Vanguard, the other World War
Speaker 1: two one.
Speaker 2: Yea, I didn't play Banger So like I feel like
Speaker 2: I've been on a break from call of duty for
Speaker 2: the first time in a long time, uh, and coming
Speaker 2: back to it like Ship this well, I mean I
Speaker 2: played the moderwork for one remake. I played the ship
Speaker 2: out of Monterwork for one remake didn't play much too,
Speaker 2: And that didn't have a real campaign right like.
Speaker 1: Two and two did. But it was very much like
Speaker 1: just a series of gimmicky missions back to back.
Speaker 2: I make a three remake.
Speaker 1: There's a matter of work for three that was last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was, but it was it was universally panned.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, Okay, so I think there were reasons.
Speaker 1: That Shriyer had reported it was be DLC at first, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so yeah, there are numerous ones I've not played,
Speaker 2: but man, this one. You know, I saw were you
Speaker 2: saying like, oh, this is like a breath of fresh
Speaker 2: air for the campaign. I was like, okay, cool, I've
Speaker 2: always been a campaign guy more than I was multiplayer
Speaker 2: and it is so good. I'm like, i think I'm
Speaker 2: over halfway through now. Incredible pacing. It is just like
Speaker 2: a ton of variety. It is really getting away from
Speaker 2: that Steve Frosty who uh military stuff and way more
Speaker 2: Mission Impossible twenty four. Yeah, It's like there's like but
Speaker 2: that's what I'm with. Like the variety. There's like a
Speaker 2: lot of like espionage tech missions like remember that one
Speaker 2: and uncharted sneak into the like auction, the art auction
Speaker 2: and stuff stuff like that. Where it's a Bill Clinton speech.
Speaker 2: It's like prior to the ninety two election, and you're
Speaker 2: like you see Bill Clinton and he's just up there
Speaker 2: and on a stage and you're like, you know, do
Speaker 2: I want to go talk to the senator's wife at
Speaker 2: the bar? Do I want to go do this? And
Speaker 2: I got to get a retinal scan of this guy,
Speaker 2: very James Bondy type stuff. And then the next thing
Speaker 2: will be like you're in a desert storm and it's
Speaker 2: like a small open world, a desert area where it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: you can just go destroy these three scud missile sites,
Speaker 2: or you can go around and like there's some dudes
Speaker 2: down in the helicopter crash over here, there's some supply
Speaker 2: drops over here, there's SAM sites here, And if you
Speaker 2: do all that stuff, you're getting more cash to build
Speaker 2: up your base between missions.
Speaker 1: You're more in that particular mission. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you get the chopper gunner and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: So it's like I literally did every single thing on
Speaker 2: the every point of interest. I got the trophy for
Speaker 2: that because I was just having so much fun, like
Speaker 2: driving around in a jeep, just like even little encounters
Speaker 2: that like you know, aren't like when I think call
Speaker 2: of duty campaigns, I think very scripted, just like here's
Speaker 2: the part what this happens, and here's the part where
Speaker 2: you repel down to whatever. And so there was something
Speaker 2: free about like, Okay, it's open. I'm driving around a jep.
Speaker 2: I see two guys on patrol. Hang on, let me
Speaker 2: park the jeep. I'm gonna crawl up on this hill
Speaker 2: and snipe these two dudes. Get back in the jeep,
Speaker 2: and it's it feels different and fresh.
Speaker 1: It's got a really nice quality of life touch. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've noticed. If you're not detected and
Speaker 1: you've got your scope on an enemy, one of your
Speaker 1: teammates will say, don't do that. That's gonna alert somebody.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't take that shot.
Speaker 1: It shows you they Basically it's an audio way to
Speaker 1: tell you, like a diegetic way to tell you they
Speaker 1: are in someone's sideline.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's really seamless, nice touch.
Speaker 1: I don't remember a game doing that before. I mean
Speaker 1: they're a game. There's stell games that like you could
Speaker 1: see the site lines. But yeah, it was a nice touch.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So it's like that open world thing I
Speaker 2: absolutely adored. And then it just goes right into another
Speaker 2: mission where it's like, okay, I'm at the point out
Speaker 2: on the story where it's like getting weird in a
Speaker 2: way that Call of Duty typically doesn't. And so it
Speaker 2: started like doing something I won't spoil anything, but it's
Speaker 2: just like, oh, okay, we're doing that, Okay, cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as I said, you know what I played, So
Speaker 1: I played the whole campaign. I'm curious what mission I.
Speaker 2: Mean, I just went into like a research facid I
Speaker 2: had to get door cards. I just finished that one. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right. And so that was a crazy mission. And
Speaker 2: like even the weapons stuff you're getting, it's doing the
Speaker 2: thing where it's like, yeah, it's early nineties, but also,
Speaker 2: fuck it, here's a homing knife that you can steer
Speaker 2: in mid air and remotely detonated like crazy shit like that.
Speaker 2: That's like didn't happen really, but it's plausible enough to like, oh,
Speaker 2: this super secret Black Ops thing had these experimental weapons,
Speaker 2: and it like when you call in the kill streaks
Speaker 2: and campaign you're piloting the missiles down in the open
Speaker 2: world areas. That all feels great. It is a I
Speaker 2: am amazed at how much I'm loving this campaign. It
Speaker 2: is really really good, and like to the point where, shit,
Speaker 2: I used to like multiplayer Call of Duty a lot.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll play more of that just because I'm loving
Speaker 2: this game so And I also wonder, like I feel
Speaker 2: like back in the day, it was always just like, Okay,
Speaker 2: here's the Infinity Ward one, here's the tray Erk one,
Speaker 2: here's Infinity Ward Okay, now we're bringing in a sledgehammer,
Speaker 2: and now we got three. Is this I haven't really
Speaker 2: followed a lot of the like lead up to this
Speaker 2: one or the marketing. Is this just kind of like
Speaker 2: Activision and we've got help from Raven and all of
Speaker 2: these studios. Are they all kind of working together on
Speaker 2: this or is it like predominantly Trey Arc since they're
Speaker 2: the Black Ops teams.
Speaker 1: So Trey Arc got four years to work on this,
Speaker 1: which has oh okay, yeah, because wait, why is that?
Speaker 1: I believe that's because Modern War for three became a
Speaker 1: full fledged game when it wasn't originally supposed to. So
Speaker 1: they had four years since Cold War which is basically
Speaker 1: Black Ops five now based with a new number, so
Speaker 1: they had four years. There's been some shakeups. It sounded
Speaker 1: like things were sketchy at Sledgehammer for a bit. I
Speaker 1: don't know what is gonna I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: happening going forward. But to your point, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's the same exact like concrete rotation as it used
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 2: Well, I would love if this is like get everyone
Speaker 2: all hands on deck and wait a few years between them.
Speaker 2: Like I'm I'm sure that the money situation them to
Speaker 2: do every year, but shit, them having four years to
Speaker 2: make this one led to this, Like, this is the
Speaker 2: best call of dude I've played in a long time.
Speaker 1: Have you you dabbled? Are you you're a zombies guy
Speaker 1: at all? Called dody Zombies, I never, like some people
Speaker 1: really liked it. I just never liked zombie aesthetic stuff.
Speaker 2: And like even just the like I felt like every
Speaker 2: Zombies mode was like, Okay, I got to figure out,
Speaker 2: like I grab the doll and turn it up down
Speaker 2: and put inside the ferris wheel and then I you know,
Speaker 2: would tap into secret code and then I can like
Speaker 2: get a special dollar. Yeah, and then I can put
Speaker 2: two more boards on this window. I just I never
Speaker 2: really like zombies that much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, something to do with friends, though, Like the whole
Speaker 3: point of it is it that it's supposed to be
Speaker 3: like really brilliant. It's like that you're getting six buttons
Speaker 3: that you can finish the hat so that you can
Speaker 3: put it on the cat's heads, so that you can
Speaker 3: get an extra nail. And that's what's fun about it
Speaker 3: is it just gives you shit to do with your friends.
Speaker 2: Look, I got Eco point Nova. Now we gotta have boards.
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, Mary. I'm curious if you get time
Speaker 1: to just dabble in zombies and all. There's two maps. Now,
Speaker 1: Liberty Falls is very much like a Stranger Thing style
Speaker 1: small town and like Appalachia, that is the more like
Speaker 1: intro one where yeah, you can once you get the
Speaker 1: pack a punch machine and you're upgrading your weapons, you
Speaker 1: can unlock these zip lines from tops of buildings. It's
Speaker 1: a really pretty clean like incline towards this church. Everybody
Speaker 1: will be like, Okay, I gotta go pack a punch
Speaker 1: this new level five wepon I just got, Let's go
Speaker 1: back to the church, and then you'll fight your way
Speaker 1: back up. Every once in a while you'll get a
Speaker 1: syringe that turns you into one of the berserker enemies,
Speaker 1: so you just start like hammer punching zombies. And then
Speaker 1: there's a second one called Terminus. That is what you're
Speaker 1: talking about, Dan, That's that Terminus is like made for
Speaker 1: the like Easter Egg diehards who want to see like
Speaker 1: the secret stuff.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that they're doing that. Yeah, they go big
Speaker 2: for the diehards, but I just I don't think I'm
Speaker 2: one of them. No.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely like a core group of freaks that
Speaker 3: like it, and I identify as one of those people.
Speaker 3: I just think like it's core value the zombie mode.
Speaker 3: Like I used to always get really into like different
Speaker 3: modes of games that do that. For example, when Team
Speaker 3: Fortress had like a tower defense mode, I was all
Speaker 3: in on stuff like that, where other people were like, no,
Speaker 3: I just want to play like regular Team Fortress and
Speaker 3: I was like, you fools, this is super fun to
Speaker 3: like fight hordes and hordes of machines that come through,
Speaker 3: And this is the same for me. It's just it's
Speaker 3: just a silly way to play a totally different style
Speaker 3: of game, and with all the fun guns that you
Speaker 3: enjoy playing, but it's mostly cooperative play is the only
Speaker 3: reason you would enjoy it. If I was by myself,
Speaker 3: I would not play this mode at all. If I
Speaker 3: have three buds, that's all I want to play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I guarantee you at some point here we
Speaker 2: will do a giant bomb stream where we get four
Speaker 2: of us together and do it, and I'll be like,
Speaker 2: that was a great time. Like you know, even if
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily know every Easter Egg or whatever, it's
Speaker 2: four players, you will have.
Speaker 3: Fun with your friends playing like the zombie mode of
Speaker 3: these games. One hundred percent. It's why they keep making them.
Speaker 3: They're like beloved and they're genuinely like a joy to play.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, uh So overall, I can't say enough. I
Speaker 2: normally like a little over halfway through the campaign from
Speaker 2: what I've seen, Mike might have played more. Is it
Speaker 2: just you don't have to say anything in particular obviously,
Speaker 2: but like does it keep getting weird?
Speaker 1: Uh? The research mission? I would say the research facility
Speaker 1: is definitely tonally weird getting weird.
Speaker 3: But can I just say, wouldn't the question me does
Speaker 3: it get weirder?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because it does not get like tonally as
Speaker 1: it's it calms down tonally. However, you have not seen
Speaker 1: every kind of mission yet, like mission structure.
Speaker 2: See that makes me more excited than anything, because I
Speaker 2: think that is like I'm trying to recall a duty
Speaker 2: campaign is just like it.
Speaker 1: Would if I I don't think you've done there's a
Speaker 1: mission coming up very soon that when you said, it's like,
Speaker 1: it's like mission impossible. This this game to me feels
Speaker 1: like what was I telling a friend? The campaign is
Speaker 1: like if Steven Soderberg and wild things like yeah, exactly, no,
Speaker 1: but there's there's a mission coming up where it's it's
Speaker 1: playing with the structure of what a Call of Duty
Speaker 1: mission is. And then there's another one that takes pretty
Speaker 1: clear inspiration from a series I know you love. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: and that's there's there's those two. I try to remember
Speaker 1: how many are yeah, because it's like an eight hour campaign.
Speaker 1: Is the series twenty four no sorry, video game franchise?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah, okay. That that's really exciting
Speaker 2: to hear because like, as much as I've liked prior
Speaker 2: Call of Duty campaigns, there'd be variants like oh, here's
Speaker 2: the sniper mission where you're sneaking around and the you know,
Speaker 2: the the ferris wheel or whatever, but like it's still
Speaker 2: you're going from A to B and you're shooting dudes
Speaker 2: with guns. Oh yeah, no, the rest this is totally different.
Speaker 2: Well ick op six.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to even think what the most linear mission
Speaker 1: would have been, like the first the intro probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the intro, like yeah, but it's cool how it
Speaker 2: does that because it starts you and just like, okay,
Speaker 2: here you are, You're in kuwait, and uh, this is
Speaker 2: a Call of Duty mission. It's just you know, downside, shoot,
Speaker 2: talk to a guy, he gets shot, whatever, and then
Speaker 2: pretty quickly it's just like all right, here's a totally
Speaker 2: and now for something completely different. You know, it's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious what you think about the rest. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's definitely it's it's not just like on Rails missions.
Speaker 1: The rest of the game for sure awesome.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm all the way in.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Mary, if you get the chance dabble in zombies,
Speaker 1: I'm curious what you think.
Speaker 3: I would like to. It's it's something I always really
Speaker 3: enjoy doing and like that would get me to play
Speaker 3: with friends for sure, Like I would love to play
Speaker 3: that mode.
Speaker 2: I know who were constantly just like, oh we should
Speaker 2: do that for a player for fire Escape, and then
Speaker 2: we find time this should be maybe if this would
Speaker 2: be a good well.
Speaker 3: I mean even for Giant Bomb as well. Dan, Like
Speaker 3: that's the type of thing like give me a ring
Speaker 3: a ding ding Like, yeah, yes.
Speaker 1: You guys play anything else? Mary, you play something?
Speaker 3: I have one more. I played more Nevah. I've really
Speaker 3: really liked it and I just want to say I
Speaker 3: think that it should be played probably before Godie, I
Speaker 3: think it is worth maybe if I'm only allowed to
Speaker 3: put two. I have to think about it a little deeper,
Speaker 3: but like I do think it's just an incredible growth
Speaker 3: from Greed and so now that I've like put more
Speaker 3: time into it, I just think that it has become
Speaker 3: quite a puzzle platformer that is staying in my memory.
Speaker 3: It gets good and so for someone who likes puzzle
Speaker 3: platformers and Dan, I know you like those two, it
Speaker 3: is really well done. And I was heavily impressed by
Speaker 3: especially the secret I don't know flower areas. So like
Speaker 3: essentially there's lots of puzzles and sometimes you'll be like, oh,
Speaker 3: but there looks like there's a little secret up here,
Speaker 3: but it's really hard to get to. And if you
Speaker 3: put in the extra energy to figure out the platform
Speaker 3: puzzle to get up there, there's like a little flower
Speaker 3: that you just get to touch and that's it. But
Speaker 3: it's it pushes the player to be able to get
Speaker 3: to these like secret spaces and you don't have to
Speaker 3: do them, they're all optional, but getting them is like
Speaker 3: a total rush because they're hard to get anyway. I've
Speaker 3: I've found a lot of joy and never and I
Speaker 3: think it is an absolute gem of a game. For
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. So I just wanted to say, after
Speaker 3: the completion of Never, I think it's an absolute wonderful
Speaker 3: game and I really enjoyed my time with it, and
Speaker 3: I think it's beautiful. I think it's smart and a
Speaker 3: good platformer, and you there's like a fun little wolf
Speaker 3: in there. You can't go wrong. It's probably one of
Speaker 3: the prettiest games of the year. Easy. So do you
Speaker 3: like visual aesthetics? Neva got tho es. Dude, it's so pretty.
Speaker 3: I can't believe how ori it got in this next one,
Speaker 3: and like it's not a metroidveny. I just want to
Speaker 3: set that tone.
Speaker 1: Not at all.
Speaker 3: It's like a limbo with puzzly platformer styles, but aesthetically
Speaker 3: it's so pretty and it has some or stuff like
Speaker 3: for example, like yeah, when you have like run from
Speaker 3: the waves in or like it has that too, or
Speaker 3: it's just like a system where you have to like
Speaker 3: run through a series of obstacles quickly. So I think
Speaker 3: that's neat sequence. Yeah, I think it's great. So that's
Speaker 3: all I wanted to say. It's a short one. I
Speaker 3: just I just think it's I think it's fantastic. I
Speaker 3: was very impressed with it by the time I was
Speaker 3: done with it. But in the homework slot, No, it's
Speaker 3: just if I only get two homework slots. I have
Speaker 3: to be very careful. I have to be very this
Speaker 3: is like a strategic thing.
Speaker 1: I too are Dragon Age, Valguard and metaphor re Fantasio.
Speaker 2: You have to I've been quitting the podcast.
Speaker 1: I haven't played val Guard. I'm eye for what it's worth.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to play vol Guard because it's it sounds
Speaker 1: like it has a strong mass effect to structure vibes,
Speaker 1: which I'm looking forward to. Dan, I'm surprised. So you
Speaker 1: played a Batman VR game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just heard some early buzz saying like, oh shit,
Speaker 2: this is this is a real good one. And you know,
Speaker 2: I'd always hoped that like there would VR gaming in
Speaker 2: general would get to a point where it's kind of
Speaker 2: worth like booting up the thing and loading it, like
Speaker 2: filling the battery because just sat in a closet for
Speaker 2: a long time. This is an awesome game. This is
Speaker 2: a worthy of like the Batman Arkham name. It really
Speaker 2: takes all of the feelings. It's not as open world
Speaker 2: as like it's certainly not Arkham City where you have
Speaker 2: this giant map or anything like that. But I think
Speaker 2: most importantly, the combat is there, and I think the
Speaker 2: predator sneaking around, you know, jumping on gargoyle stuff is there.
Speaker 2: It's not perfect because, like I think your instinct is
Speaker 2: you'll get into a fight as Batman and you wanted
Speaker 2: to start throwing you know, fists and everything, and it
Speaker 2: is a little deliberate. It's almost like a lot of
Speaker 2: VR Rhythm games where it's like, okay, a yellow circle
Speaker 2: shows up and that means a straight punch, and then
Speaker 2: it's like an arrow going this way means okay, left punch,
Speaker 2: uppercut this way, So you kind of have to dial
Speaker 2: a combo type thing. You can't just like flail around
Speaker 2: and it works. But once you get used to that,
Speaker 2: it throws in really fun things in the combat where
Speaker 2: it's like, let's say you start punching a guy and
Speaker 2: just the number five shows up in a circle. That
Speaker 2: means you can just throw five punches and do full
Speaker 2: on just Batman, just they're just fucking dude up. And
Speaker 2: then like oh, it'll tell you to like bring both
Speaker 2: arms down and that like takes his head and just
Speaker 2: brings it up into your knee and fucks them up
Speaker 2: in the combat. You know, normally you see a guy
Speaker 2: in the Arkham games and there's like lightning mother head
Speaker 2: and you hit why and you know, counters them. This
Speaker 2: one it shows you that same type of symbol, but
Speaker 2: you just need to move either hand in that direction
Speaker 2: to interrupt their thing and compo. So like you'll be
Speaker 2: beating the shit out of one dude. You see it
Speaker 2: someone coming in from the right. All you do is
Speaker 2: like stick your right hand out and then your perspective changes,
Speaker 2: fucking that dude up. Like all of that stuff works
Speaker 2: really well. You're like sweep in your cape. If you
Speaker 2: hold a trigger and move your hand, it'll like sweep
Speaker 2: the cape to stun them. All of that shit works
Speaker 2: really well. There is a little bit of a learning
Speaker 2: curve is maybe too sphere of a turn, but like
Speaker 2: it takes them getting used to basically, but it all
Speaker 2: kind of makes sense and feels right in the moment.
Speaker 2: And the sneaking around, grapple, hooking around batter rang stuff,
Speaker 2: like the batterraing is on your chest, so you just
Speaker 2: like reach to your chest, you grab it, you throw it.
Speaker 2: Like a lot of R games have that look down
Speaker 2: and grab something a gun or an AMMO cartridge from
Speaker 2: your body, and it doesn't work that well. Here I
Speaker 2: was so rarely like fucking up, like, oh I meant
Speaker 2: to grab a smoke bomb, but I grabbed the batter
Speaker 2: rang Like no, it tracks very well. Like this feels
Speaker 2: like an extremely well made VR game and smart stuff,
Speaker 2: Like to activate the detective mode, you put your hand
Speaker 2: up to your head and you like pull the trigger,
Speaker 2: so like, it's so fun to walk into a room
Speaker 2: and you're trying to find clues and you're like like
Speaker 2: you tap the cow and Batman vision like all that
Speaker 2: shit's really cool. It feels exactly like I would want
Speaker 2: an Arkham game in VR to to feel like, yeah,
Speaker 2: very very impressive. Mean, I might play through this whole game,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if I've ever played through an
Speaker 2: entire VR game, like you know, Half Live Alex included,
Speaker 2: So yeah, loving it.
Speaker 1: What are you playing on specifically a quest?
Speaker 2: It's only on the Quest three?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, gotcha, it's not it's only on the three specifically, Yeah, specifically, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if it's okay. Yeah, works, works really great.
Speaker 1: I'll try it out in town.
Speaker 3: I saw if I could just be that guy for
Speaker 3: a second. I saw a Reddit post on our Gaming
Speaker 3: about the Batman VR game, and the post was like,
Speaker 3: I thought that I had been able to break the game,
Speaker 3: but the game knew what you know, knew how to
Speaker 3: outsmart me. And so you're Batman and VR and there
Speaker 3: are these bars and all you have to do is
Speaker 3: get your batter rang. Is that what it's called, Yeah,
Speaker 3: your batthrower device, and you have to hit a lever
Speaker 3: on the other side of the Yeah, but there's bars
Speaker 3: in the way, so it's obviously trying to get you
Speaker 3: to figure out a puzzle. But in VR, the guy
Speaker 3: like maneuvered the batter rang in between the bars, you know, physically,
Speaker 3: and he threw it and it hit an invisible wall.
Speaker 2: Oh really okay.
Speaker 3: And so the game had like had a feature to
Speaker 3: prevent you from cheating. But my reaction to that video
Speaker 3: is is like, that's actually a bummer, because if you're
Speaker 3: thoughtful enough to maneuver the battom rang to go in
Speaker 3: between these bars and hit the lever, that should have worked.
Speaker 3: And instead of coming up with a clever in game
Speaker 3: design function, like I don't know, maybe there's a box
Speaker 3: over the lever or something like that. They just put
Speaker 3: an invisible wall, which I think was limiting considering the
Speaker 3: amount of creativity that you would expect someone in VR
Speaker 3: to be able to display in that game. I would
Speaker 3: have liked them to come up with something a little
Speaker 3: bit more interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for real life, if Batman could get his arm
Speaker 2: in there, that would count, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Agree, And like a whole part of the cell of
Speaker 3: VR is that they're selling an immersive experience that you
Speaker 3: get to feel like Batman. And Batman is smart. He
Speaker 3: outsmarts his way out of a lot of situations because
Speaker 3: that's the kind of person he is. And I feel
Speaker 3: like a real Batman in that situation would shove his
Speaker 3: arm through the bars and just dink the batome rag
Speaker 3: into the candle. So I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2: See Batman being smart. That said, my a lot of
Speaker 2: my joy out of this comes out of being dumb
Speaker 2: ass Batman, where it's just like I'm kicking dudes asses
Speaker 2: and then Batman's just crouch chopping him and stuff, and
Speaker 2: like you can see the cow, you can see like
Speaker 2: you look down, you see you feel like Batman. It's like, uh,
Speaker 2: Professor Gordon, what's this fucking commissioner. Gordon will be like
Speaker 2: talking to you, like showing you this like super serious film,
Speaker 2: and I'm like shoving my finger in Gordon's nose. I'm
Speaker 2: like throwing beer bottles at him, like I'm just like
Speaker 2: asshole Batman, Like it's very fun for me.
Speaker 3: You're still rich, though, so they can't touch you.
Speaker 2: What are they gonna do? Yeah, yeah, even if.
Speaker 3: But whether or not you're smart or stupid, what they
Speaker 3: can't take away from Batman is he's rich as fucking untouchable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll throw a beer bottle at your head. It's fine,
Speaker 2: you can.
Speaker 3: Get away with it.
Speaker 1: I want to try that out at some point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, I think it's all the games. You guys
Speaker 1: want to do some emails, sure, okay. As always, you
Speaker 1: can write into Firescape cast at gmail dot com with questions, comments, concerns.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll read your questions on the air like a
Speaker 1: couple we have tonight. Also, we'll give you another reminder
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Speaker 1: won't do that weird subscription schedule anymore. Just for people
Speaker 1: who haven't signed up yet. Okay, we have our friend,
Speaker 1: doctor Fernando wrote in Dan figured you should be the
Speaker 1: one to read this since you met him.
Speaker 2: Sure, Hello, fire Escape. I was going to wait to
Speaker 2: email until after I watched Dan's recommendation Annette, but after
Speaker 2: the last episode, I realized I should probably check in
Speaker 2: my apologies. I had a busy two weeks went to
Speaker 2: a big medical conference in La full of nerds who
Speaker 2: love infections. They actually had an interesting booth by a
Speaker 2: company called Nerdcore Medical that makes a board game that
Speaker 2: they described as a hybrid between D and D and
Speaker 2: Magic the Gathering, except it's all antibiotics and bacteria designed
Speaker 2: as fantasy characters and creatures. I spent the following week
Speaker 2: negotiating and signing a new job contract and being on
Speaker 2: call at the hospital. So between those events and the
Speaker 2: intermittent poop city Slam of Jamas, I have been busy.
Speaker 2: I had a great time with Dan and Jersey and
Speaker 2: it was refreshing to learn that Mary actually loves the
Speaker 2: soundboard and thinks that Dan is brilliant and private. Dan
Speaker 2: is Wow. Anyway, I'll get back to you soon after
Speaker 2: I watched the movie. Thanks for existing, love, Fernando. Oh,
Speaker 2: thank you so much, doctor Fernande. Oh hell yeah.
Speaker 3: Did you reaffirm that I am not upset in person
Speaker 3: to Fernando?
Speaker 2: What? No, I honestly don't remember that. It was like
Speaker 2: our second bar. I was pretty toasty by the time
Speaker 2: we talked to bullshit.
Speaker 3: First of all, you're a lightweight. You should be able
Speaker 3: to at least go four bars before you're blackout.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, I wouldn't blackout. I was just pussy, pussy pussy.
Speaker 3: Somebody take him home. This guy's at the second bar.
Speaker 1: Can I'm the one that's with the toxic masculinity. Yeah.
Speaker 2: When I blackout, I just go to bars and talk
Speaker 2: to people about a net.
Speaker 1: We just happened to be a fire escape fan.
Speaker 2: Ooh that out of sex thinge in it? That was like,
Speaker 2: not ironic. He was singing into her vagina.
Speaker 1: That sounds ironic.
Speaker 2: No, it's presented very straight. We love each other so much.
Speaker 2: He's singing into her vagina as he's down there doing
Speaker 2: god knows what.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know what he's doing. H he's driving.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you doctor for doctor Fernando's great. Which, by
Speaker 2: the way, Doctor Ryan. So people were trying to nark
Speaker 2: and saying to Doctor Ryan on a giant bomb chat recently,
Speaker 2: like did you see this is virescap said they got
Speaker 2: a new doctor. They got doctor Fernando. Now, no one's
Speaker 2: been replaced, no one's Look, people have numerous doctors. All right,
Speaker 2: Doctor Ryan, My neck's all fucked up. If I got
Speaker 2: questions about that, I know you can fix it up.
Speaker 2: Tell me what's going on. I get a terrible infectious disease.
Speaker 2: Doctor Fernando's got it. Look, you need a whole suite
Speaker 2: of doctors here, and that's what we're building.
Speaker 3: So we got doctor Fernando's. Sounds like you're going to
Speaker 3: an Applebee's. We had to go to doctor Fernando's. It's
Speaker 3: like so good. Their onion rings are out of this world.
Speaker 2: How dare you, besmirts. The good name of doctor Fernando
Speaker 2: is a good man. On the end, doctor Fernando's, you
Speaker 2: know doctor Fernando's, ladies, not on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Doctor Fernando's does sound like a teeky bar.
Speaker 2: That's a cool name.
Speaker 1: Our Fernando's an awesome name.
Speaker 3: Yeah, doctor Fernandez is a buye one, get one on
Speaker 3: Thursday nights.
Speaker 2: Oh the wings in Doctor Fernando's just out of this world.
Speaker 2: Yeah down there, Dan, Yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: Doctor Mary. Do you want to read this one? From
Speaker 1: West from Baltimore. This was a response to Dan his
Speaker 1: cooking spiel last episode. But it's a question for you, said,
Speaker 1: you don't have time to do it?
Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, hello there.
Speaker 3: I used to hate peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. It
Speaker 3: wasn't until college that I revisited them and realized that
Speaker 3: they are fantastic. I have eaten them regularly since. I
Speaker 3: recently learned that when my mom makes a peepee and jay,
Speaker 3: she makes the wrong decision at every step. This could
Speaker 3: explain my childlike dislike, my childhood dislike of the sandwich
Speaker 3: because her preparation is a travesty. This is how she
Speaker 3: makes it, white bread, grape jelly, smooth peanut butter, and
Speaker 3: ratio of twice as much jelly as peanut butter. How
Speaker 3: do you make your peeb and jay? Thanks Wes from Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have thoughts on this? Did I first of all,
Speaker 2: did I mention on crustables on here? Before?
Speaker 3: You have mentioned uncrustables. We've discussed this, Okay, those are
Speaker 3: very good. Bunk made you aware of it? Can I
Speaker 3: just clarify West from Baltimore? You say white bread, grape jelly,
Speaker 3: smooth peanut butter, and ratio of twice as much jelly
Speaker 3: as peanut butter. Does this mean that it is white bread,
Speaker 3: grape jelly, smooth peanut butter, grape jelly? You know what
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 1: You? You just like, is the peanut butter flanked by jelly? Oh?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think she uses a lot of I
Speaker 2: don't think it's not astata.
Speaker 3: There's another piece of white bread on top.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, he's just saying.
Speaker 1: I think he's saying, like as opposed to like a
Speaker 1: whole week with strawberry jam with.
Speaker 2: You expressive if it was that, I agree with a
Speaker 2: lot of this. Yeah, white bread. No, I like wheat
Speaker 2: whole grain stuff. But specifically you can get like the
Speaker 2: Sarah Lee forty five calorie a slice because like you
Speaker 2: don't want bread, it's like one hundred and twenty calories
Speaker 2: of slice. That's a lot going on there. So I
Speaker 2: got the forty five calorie Sarah Lee stuff wheat jelly.
Speaker 2: I'm new to the jelly world, so I don't have
Speaker 2: feelings about grape versus strawberry or anything. So that's the
Speaker 2: thing I don't really know right now. I think we
Speaker 2: have a thing of sugar free strawberry in the fridge
Speaker 2: and that's what I use. But yeah, smooth peanut butter
Speaker 2: is the wrong one. You do skippy super chunk all
Speaker 2: day and the ratio of twice as much jelly as
Speaker 2: peanut butter. No, you put like eight knifefuls of super
Speaker 2: chunk on one slice. And I know I'm new to jelly,
Speaker 2: but I just kind of get just the slightest just
Speaker 2: like just you're turning that bread purple, just the slightest,
Speaker 2: like the color of jelly is on it, but like,
Speaker 2: no no chunks.
Speaker 3: You know, jelly to jam situation.
Speaker 1: I don't know the difference you mean jelly to peanut
Speaker 1: butter or jelly to jam. Oh, I see you're saying,
Speaker 1: do you use jelly or jam?
Speaker 3: Whether jelly is clear and it's just the essence of fruit.
Speaker 3: It's like the jelly like jam is like gooey goopy
Speaker 3: and you can get fruit chunks in it.
Speaker 2: It's that seems like a lot like when I get salici.
Speaker 2: I don't want chunks. I just want the liquid, you know,
Speaker 2: so I think I want the same thing with those
Speaker 2: liquid liquid.
Speaker 1: Well, no, that's a whole other conversation. Salsa chunks are
Speaker 1: going to be firmer. To Mary's point, I just want
Speaker 1: the wet red Yeah. I mean there might be like
Speaker 1: some like collection of fruit, but you can smooth them out.
Speaker 3: In my damage. I could do with that sound bite.
Speaker 2: Try me.
Speaker 1: I so what the six freak side of it already is? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I go like a whole wheat with like the
Speaker 1: oats around the crust. I like yeah, I like yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's like a I think there's there's like
Speaker 1: a lumberjack on the bag.
Speaker 2: There's the one with the guy that was in jail,
Speaker 2: Dave's crazy jailbread.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: No, the whole gimmick is like it says on the
Speaker 2: thing like this dude was in jail and now he
Speaker 2: makes bread.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 2: No, do you not know what I'm talking about? Jail bread?
Speaker 2: Hang on jail bread brand. I think it's just Dave's
Speaker 2: Killer Bread.
Speaker 3: It's not be called jail bread. It's called Dave's Killer Bread.
Speaker 3: And I don't think it's actually about him going to jail.
Speaker 3: It's just that the bread is so good.
Speaker 5: No, it is called killer Bread on their website after products.
Speaker 2: No, this is Dave's Killerbread dot com. And right next
Speaker 2: to products there's Second Chance Employment. And it's this whole
Speaker 2: thing about like, hey, you've been to jail, we'll get
Speaker 2: out and come make some bread. It's all.
Speaker 1: But that's not him making that's not him making.
Speaker 3: Jail killer because he's a murderer who got out.
Speaker 1: This sounds like they do, and like they run a
Speaker 1: program where they and have rehabilitated, rehabilitated prisoners coming. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I didn't say he was a murderer.
Speaker 1: I didn't say you said he's murdered. I said that.
Speaker 1: You said he made the bread in jail and it
Speaker 1: got famous.
Speaker 2: Well that's not right. So okay, I'm there's all about
Speaker 2: us page and everything.
Speaker 1: He went to.
Speaker 3: Murdering day and he killed a bunch of guys, but
Speaker 3: really good bread. So we used to call him Dave
Speaker 3: the Killer.
Speaker 1: Of Jail because the bread was so good.
Speaker 2: He went to prison for fifteen years. That's not you know,
Speaker 2: stealing a Skittles.
Speaker 3: Bag many women. But his bread is dope.
Speaker 2: I'm certain why did Dave Bread go to jail?
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, pardon him because his bread was so good?
Speaker 2: Okay? He served over fifteen years in prison for drug distribution, burglary,
Speaker 2: armed robbery and assaults in Portland. Oh wow, Mary, what
Speaker 2: is this quite the rap sheet? It's a bunch of
Speaker 2: bread making criminals your town.
Speaker 3: I'm glad he found something to do with his life.
Speaker 3: No good for him. I like rehabilitation system. I'm just
Speaker 3: dying at the idea that like you called it Dave's
Speaker 3: jail bread, and I do I really will say like like,
Speaker 3: when you say Dave's killer bread, my thought is like, oh,
Speaker 3: that sounds like delicious bread. But when you're like, this
Speaker 3: is a guy who got in a prison and his
Speaker 3: name is Dave the Killer's Bread.
Speaker 2: But that's the gimmick, it takes such a dark turn.
Speaker 2: Oh he gotta rested. Wait, he got arrested in Portland
Speaker 2: for ramming patrol cars. Oh this is years ago.
Speaker 1: This sounds like the coolest guy I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: It's off it's on the Portland to separ addit.
Speaker 1: He was just ramming into police cruisers.
Speaker 3: Yeah bye, And I did not know this lore.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Although he's no longer using methampetam and
Speaker 2: that he'd been smoking pot, snorting coke and drinking heavily,
Speaker 2: I do not think the fame and success of Dave's
Speaker 2: Killer Bread had a great impact on it. He spend
Speaker 2: money on fancy cars and flashy things. Wow, this is
Speaker 2: a Reddit thread, so this is all allegedly What is
Speaker 2: the what.
Speaker 1: Is when is the Adam McKay biopek about this guy
Speaker 1: coming who's playing Dave Kill Michael sinkerl Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I forgot to tell you guys. Holy shit, Michael Shannon's
Speaker 1: the actor, are you guys fans? Yeah, he's like one
Speaker 1: of my favorite actors. And I swear to god. Amanda
Speaker 1: and I were sitting at this dive bar. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say exactly where. I don't want to blow
Speaker 1: it up, but it was near our wedding venue and
Speaker 1: we were killing time because our wedding venue invited us
Speaker 1: back for an anniversary dinner. And we're sitting at the
Speaker 1: best dive bar in the world, the best bar in
Speaker 1: New York and as we sit down, I look over
Speaker 1: I was like, that guy looks like Michael Shannon from
Speaker 1: the side, and then he turned around, like, oh my god, Amanda,
Speaker 1: that's Michael Shannon. We didn't bother him. We never do.
Speaker 1: They've got shit to do. But I discovered that Michael Shannon,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite actors, goes to one of my
Speaker 1: favorite bars, and he used to live in like my
Speaker 1: favorite neighborhood in New York.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, but.
Speaker 1: He would be good as I feel like he would
Speaker 1: be a good Like google Michael Shannon if you haven't
Speaker 1: seen him a while, he would be a good killer.
Speaker 1: Dave bread Maker.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm still googling Dave jail here, and it's like,
Speaker 2: I hope I'm not being too harsh on it, because like,
Speaker 2: it does sound like, Okay, he had a ramming police
Speaker 2: cars episode about eleven years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking but it.
Speaker 2: Does seem it does seem like. No, he looks like
Speaker 2: a man who's trying to better himself and makes him
Speaker 2: bread and he can't can't fault a man for that. No.
Speaker 2: He sold his bread in twenty fifteen for two hundred
Speaker 2: and seventy five million dollars Jesus bread. I gotta learn
Speaker 2: how to make bread. You gotta go to jail to jail.
Speaker 3: Yeah, except instead of police and try and run a
Speaker 3: couple of them over, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Go punch a cop and learn how to make bread.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: That's the the first two steps of the three steps
Speaker 1: of success. Third one is profit. Yeah, fucking make that money.
Speaker 1: Oh anyway, I do the lumberjack bread, and then I
Speaker 1: do peanut butterwich crunchy peanut butter, and then I do
Speaker 1: like a raspberry preserved jam that has seeds in it.
Speaker 1: Still like that's when you get the real taste. My
Speaker 1: ratio is two to one peanut butter to jelly. The
Speaker 1: jelly jam. The jam, in my opinion, is just there
Speaker 1: to add that little bit of sweetness in acidity, because
Speaker 1: otherwise the peanut butter is going to become overpowering and
Speaker 1: fatty in your mouth and the like. To me, the
Speaker 1: peanut butter is there more for texture and like mouthfeel.
Speaker 1: The jam is there to cut through that with acidity
Speaker 1: and fruity flavor, and like some sweetness, peanut butter is to.
Speaker 3: Hold it all or sorry. The killer bread is so
Speaker 3: that you know you can bite it without getting your
Speaker 3: fingies all sticky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still learning because I feel like I have
Speaker 2: had five to ten thousand peanut butter sandwiches that were
Speaker 2: just a ton of chunky peanut butter and nothing else.
Speaker 2: I've done that. Like maybe I've maybe had fifteen peanut
Speaker 2: butter and jelly sandwiches.
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of peanut butter only sandwiches. I
Speaker 1: will say, though, like I think as a concept, a
Speaker 1: peanut butter and jelly sandwich exists because it works much better.
Speaker 2: It does itself. I get it. Does anyone have just
Speaker 2: jelly sandwiches?
Speaker 3: Probably well, Jelly on toast is very popular.
Speaker 2: I think, oh yeah, that is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I go for that over My stomach does not
Speaker 1: love butter that early in the morning, so I go
Speaker 1: with like a jam also raspberry if I can get
Speaker 1: a hands on it, but strawberry is a close second. Great.
Speaker 3: Some time I go to like an American diner, usually
Speaker 3: your meat, hash browns and eggs comes with toast and
Speaker 3: they serve it with some jelly and you slap a
Speaker 3: little bit of jelly on a piece of toast and
Speaker 3: eat it with your breakfast. I do that every time.
Speaker 3: I consider it like the sweet dessert of my diner breakfast. Right,
Speaker 3: It's like the sweetest that it gets, and it's really good,
Speaker 3: So I consider that the equivalent of a peanut but sandwich.
Speaker 1: I also don't to West's point, I'm not a grape
Speaker 1: jelly fan, like really didn't.
Speaker 3: BlackBerry is really cool.
Speaker 1: I'm only you have in my grapes one way, and
Speaker 1: that's if they're grown in Burgundy, made in the cellars
Speaker 1: at Albert Davilan at d r C fucking put three
Speaker 1: years in barrel, aged twelve years in glass and Mary, can.
Speaker 2: You can you break his fingers this time?
Speaker 3: You guys? Every time you guys made me laugh. My
Speaker 3: laugh is so meaty.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard its cutting the mic out.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard any of your laughter this time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we West get your mom right.
Speaker 3: It's just like.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's on the recording. We can't
Speaker 2: hear her laughing. It's like, whoez we can see you? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I see coffin fuck.
Speaker 3: Anyway, PB and J's are great.
Speaker 1: Tell your mom to write in Wes with that that
Speaker 1: sounded weird.
Speaker 3: I meant like I don't want to hear from Wes's mom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, missus Wes. Uh Miss West? Sorry, okay, all this
Speaker 1: last one? Uh maybe Miss West. I don't know, Miss
Speaker 1: West write in about your PB and J stories. All right,
Speaker 1: this last one. I don't read this whole thing. Actually
Speaker 1: I did cut some from this, but I do think
Speaker 1: I need to read else. High Fire Escape. Your Gody
Speaker 1: episodes inspired me to start a movie club that I
Speaker 1: run with about thirty friends and acquaintances called the Buzzies.
Speaker 1: We meet at the end of the year discuss the
Speaker 1: movies that we watched that year by nominating films for
Speaker 1: ridiculous categories. There's way too many of us to come
Speaker 1: to a consensus per category, so instead we just share
Speaker 1: our personal picks and nominations. By the end of the night,
Speaker 1: Trevor film has the most nominations across all categories, wins
Speaker 1: Buzziest Film of the Year, and everyone gets to leave
Speaker 1: the new list of recommended movies check out. A lot
Speaker 1: of our categories are directly inspired by your Goady categories.
Speaker 1: Film most up its own ass, for example, but we
Speaker 1: also have some of our own categories that we're really
Speaker 1: proud of, like film with the best performance that's too
Speaker 1: good for the movie it's in that's good film that
Speaker 1: you think about the most, or film with the most
Speaker 1: toxic relationship, or film you were most surprised to love.
Speaker 1: That last one's good. Yeah, well, I mean a bunch
Speaker 1: of those were, but I like that last one because
Speaker 1: I did not expect to love fucking Prince of Persia Metrivania,
Speaker 1: Which brings me to my next question. What are some
Speaker 1: ridiculous movie award categories you were submit if you were
Speaker 1: a card carrying member of the Buzzies With love from
Speaker 1: Austin Bobby aka your actual biggest fan in Texas.
Speaker 2: Wow, fast explosion.
Speaker 3: I want to car a card if we do this,
Speaker 3: card carrying member of the Buzzy. Oh yeah, all right,
Speaker 3: let's let's write these down.
Speaker 2: Explosion, best explosion?
Speaker 3: Well what makes it? What's the best explosion?
Speaker 1: Click exploded? That's not big but it's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it depends on how big the dick is. You
Speaker 3: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's like fucking nukes, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: not everybody has this.
Speaker 2: Is it the Oppenheimer nuke or the dick explosion?
Speaker 3: With small explosions over here? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: What if? What if? What if? What if? What if
Speaker 1: the Oppenheimer nuke had blown his dick off during that test?
Speaker 1: Would that movie would have been a very different turn
Speaker 1: tone in the rest of the movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa, you should have cut to that because there's this,
Speaker 2: oh there's a non ironic sex scene an Oppenheimer. He's
Speaker 2: reading I Am Become Death while the lady's on top
Speaker 2: of him, and then like what if they're both getting
Speaker 2: into it? And then cut explosion And it's symbolic and
Speaker 2: that's like a metaphor.
Speaker 3: And Einstein comes out at the very end of the
Speaker 3: film and goes up to that guy and goes, did
Speaker 3: you see that guy blow his dick off?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said we're all gonna get laid. Yeah what exactly? Yeah,
Speaker 2: anyway you want?
Speaker 1: That's got the dire straight song at the end of
Speaker 1: Oppenheim would be really disrespectful.
Speaker 3: I think best sex scene should be in there talking
Speaker 3: about it all episode. So like it makes sense to
Speaker 3: be like, which movie has like a really good, like
Speaker 3: horny scene. And it can be because it's funny, or
Speaker 3: it can be because it's sincere. That's irrelevant. The most
Speaker 3: important thing is that it's just in your opinion, it's
Speaker 3: like that sex scene is awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, best boobs best boobs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that can be connected, but maybe not the best
Speaker 3: sex scene.
Speaker 1: No, that's separate.
Speaker 2: Best bad guy death, best bad guy, best main bad
Speaker 2: guy death, and best henchman death.
Speaker 1: He thought of you, dude, and then I thought of
Speaker 1: hospender dead at the age of who the fuck cares?
Speaker 2: That's probably I forgot. I haven't logged into my Activision
Speaker 2: accounting forever and I was trying to log in for
Speaker 2: Call of Duty. I forgot I was hostbender.
Speaker 3: H I assume I probably do this, but I think
Speaker 3: it's nice to do like best one liner or like
Speaker 3: some kind of like one off just thing that someone
Speaker 3: says that everyone thinks is memorable from that movie, and
Speaker 3: you judge it based on the line, not based off
Speaker 3: of the film. So like, if you take the film
Speaker 3: out of it, is that line like fucking god damn
Speaker 3: good line that's worth knowing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got one worst CG moment that's.
Speaker 1: Good, fucking alien what's it called?
Speaker 2: Oh fuck yeah, Yeah, that's a contender. That's here.
Speaker 3: Everybody talks about it.
Speaker 2: The best late title card or what about latest title card?
Speaker 1: What is an example of that that? Like, is there
Speaker 1: a recent one I mean, I know there are a lot,
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to think of a.
Speaker 2: I can't think of a notorious one right now.
Speaker 1: Well, oh, you know what movie I have qued up
Speaker 1: for like the weekend because we're not doing anything is Dread.
Speaker 2: Oh have you seen it?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: But I've heard a lot of people like say it's
Speaker 1: their cult classic favorite.
Speaker 2: It's a good time. You're talking about the Carl Urban one.
Speaker 3: Right your ridge?
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, the remake from twenty fifteen or something like that.
Speaker 2: Not the Stalone one. No. Oh yeah, that one's not great.
Speaker 3: That's the only one I've seen.
Speaker 2: Oh, the Stallone one.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: No, The Carl Urban One's fucking awesome. And Lena Hetty
Speaker 2: from Game of Thrones is the bad guy in it.
Speaker 2: It's so good.
Speaker 1: I just kind of had a buzzy idea like best
Speaker 1: video game, or sorry, best best movie that has structured
Speaker 1: like a video game. Like I just thought of running Man.
Speaker 1: I was like, that might as well be a video game.
Speaker 2: Are there enough though, for like a category for a year?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Oh right, it has to be for a year.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of at it's not like an all time thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: God, I really did not see many movies this year.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I could do like least accurate biopic. I
Speaker 2: feel like there was just so many biopics and someone's
Speaker 2: like this kind was an asshole? What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Like were they like whitewash him and make it seem
Speaker 3: like he was actually not so bad after all?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Or even it could be something like you know, like
Speaker 2: Beheaming Rhapsody, which you know was well received, but it
Speaker 2: was like, this is not accurate in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3: Did I see what you're saying?
Speaker 1: It's like how Elvis fucking Baz Luhrman's came out, and
Speaker 1: then Sophia Coppola's why the hell am I blanking on
Speaker 1: his wife's name, Priscilla? Priscilla, thank you the movie's name?
Speaker 1: It very clearly I took a lot away from both
Speaker 1: of those. Saltburne was last year, right, Yeah, God, I
Speaker 1: really did not see many movies this year.
Speaker 3: What about like a genre bender? It's really interesting when
Speaker 3: like a movie that's meant to be scary is funny, right,
Speaker 3: and so it like kind of messes with you, or
Speaker 3: a movie that's meant to be funny takes like a
Speaker 3: serious turn.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this movie is meant to be
Speaker 2: funny or not. Do you guys know anything about this
Speaker 2: Terrifier series a little bit, so you know that it's
Speaker 2: like Terrifier three was like the biggest movie, like in
Speaker 2: the country.
Speaker 3: The tomato score is off the charts.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I had not seen any of them. I was at
Speaker 2: a Halloween party on Saturday and they put Terrifier one
Speaker 2: on the thing, and it was like a nice like
Speaker 2: background thing, like, Okay, it seems like another Like oh,
Speaker 2: maybe it's like it it's like a killer clown thing. Sure,
Speaker 2: I swear. There's like a ten minute scene spoilers for
Speaker 2: the first Terrifier.
Speaker 3: Wait, I don't know if I want to see a sport.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want to spoil it for.
Speaker 2: The first I don't want to spoil it. But there
Speaker 2: is a long scene where everybody started like looking over
Speaker 2: for the screen, like, oh my god, this is the
Speaker 2: most horrifying thing I have ever seen. It's like practical
Speaker 2: effects and it's like it keeps going and it shows
Speaker 2: a lot and it is unbelievably gruesome. Yes, Mary, Mary,
Speaker 2: take it off. Watched Mike's reaction as I describe this. Okay, Okay, Mike.
Speaker 2: He takes these party girls home from a bar and
Speaker 2: he yeah, he ties one to a chair, he's a
Speaker 2: clown man. He takes the other one and straps her
Speaker 2: upside down to like a wooden thing with her legs
Speaker 2: up like this in the air, and then he takes
Speaker 2: a hack saw and she's completely naked. Does he just
Speaker 2: full on just naked lady upside down, legs spread in
Speaker 2: the air and making her friend watch as he's got
Speaker 2: a hacksaw, starts at the vagina, and it's just like
Speaker 2: right right, right, right, right, right right right. It goes
Speaker 2: all the way through. He says, like like bloods all
Speaker 2: over his face, like her intestines all fall out on
Speaker 2: the ground and everything, and he just goes all the
Speaker 2: way through, saws through her head, goes from vagina to skull,
Speaker 2: saw her in half, and it is long and shows
Speaker 2: all of it. It fucking insane, and it's just like
Speaker 2: at this party, it's like we're also like.
Speaker 1: A mid conversation, Who's who put this movie on at
Speaker 1: a party?
Speaker 2: You used to live at their place?
Speaker 1: Really? They were they You're good? Uh, but they were
Speaker 1: they aware that I don't know, I don't know anything
Speaker 1: about the story.
Speaker 2: I don't know it went from Halloween to that. I'm like, Halloween,
Speaker 2: it's course, and then it was that It's like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck I thought you.
Speaker 1: Were gonna say, like Hanson put it on just to
Speaker 1: fuck with people.
Speaker 2: No, Hanson was right next to me, and we're like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is this?
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ?
Speaker 2: It was insane. It ever, that was the first one
Speaker 2: I've heard. It gets more insane as the series goes on.
Speaker 2: So holy, so it's.
Speaker 1: Like it's, you know, exploitation, kind of like Gore. That's
Speaker 1: why people are seeing three so much.
Speaker 2: But it seems like, like like Mary mentioned the Rotten Tomatoes, like,
Speaker 2: it seems.
Speaker 3: Like people like the high score.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I kind of thought like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: gonna be some hostile torture point.
Speaker 3: Thing perspective of this is is every Halloween, I always
Speaker 3: watch a horror movie almost every day. So I watch
Speaker 3: like thirty one horror movies in the month of October.
Speaker 3: I enjoy it. It's like something I always get into.
Speaker 3: And towards the end of the month, aka right now,
Speaker 3: I struggle to find a horror movie that I haven't
Speaker 3: already seen, and so I was looking up best horror movies,
Speaker 3: and Terrifier three is one of the highest rated horror movies,
Speaker 3: but unfortunately I googled do you have to see Terrifier
Speaker 3: one in two in order to see three? And generally
Speaker 3: the consensus is you really should see the first two
Speaker 3: because apparently they like come into play in the third one,
Speaker 3: And then the Rotten Tomato scores of one and two
Speaker 3: are really low. Plus a lot of the reviews are
Speaker 3: straight up like one is is just a straight up
Speaker 3: gore fest, And that's my least favorite type of horror movie. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's not that I won't watch it. I'm not like
Speaker 3: anti anything really, but to me, just watching someone get
Speaker 3: tortured and like just watch like gore is a little exhausting,
Speaker 3: whereas like what I really like is like the fear
Speaker 3: of what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I I've never been a horror guy. And that's why,
Speaker 2: like when people ask my favorite horror movie, I always
Speaker 2: go with the Shining and that feels like a cop
Speaker 2: out because it's like, well, this is a real ass movie.
Speaker 2: This is the Kubrick movie, you know, Jack Nicholson, Like
Speaker 2: this is a real in psychological horror type stuff. Like
Speaker 2: I I appreciate like Halloween stuff like that, but I've
Speaker 2: never seen Friday at Thirteenth, never seen Nightmare on Elm Street.
Speaker 2: Like I've just never really been drawn to that stuff.
Speaker 2: But I'm with you, Like I remember seeing Saw and
Speaker 2: Hostile in the theaters when they came out, and those
Speaker 2: were big things, and like I didn't like them. It
Speaker 2: was just like I feel like we're just doing like, yeah,
Speaker 2: of course, it's it's shooting fish in a barrel, making
Speaker 2: people squirm by like showing someone's like achilles heel getting
Speaker 2: split open and stuff like that, you know, or like
Speaker 2: I got a stringe, I got a bear trap on
Speaker 2: my head.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, one hundred percent. Uh, those are to
Speaker 3: me sometimes they feel not always I don't like get
Speaker 3: like too AGGRESSI about it, but sometimes they can feel
Speaker 3: a little lazy to me. Sure it's a hostile did
Speaker 3: this to me the movie Hostile, which is like at
Speaker 3: some point they were just torturing people, and I was like,
Speaker 3: but the fear of it is out. I'm just watching
Speaker 3: someone be tortured. To me, it's the cat and mouse
Speaker 3: game or the who done it of it that is
Speaker 3: the most exciting part. Or how is this happening, Like
Speaker 3: how how do you get out of this situation? Is
Speaker 3: very interesting to me, So yeah, I get it. I
Speaker 3: don't think it's for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I cannot speak to the movie at all. I
Speaker 2: mean it's like I couldn't even like really hear most
Speaker 2: of it. I just like that scene people noticed, so yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not like we sat and watched it. I just
Speaker 2: saw that and I was like, that's the most fucked
Speaker 2: up thing I think I've ever seen in a horror movie.
Speaker 3: Just yeah, I think like going back to like the thing,
Speaker 3: I was, well, I don't know if this is connected.
Speaker 3: It's like, to me, what makes a good horror movie
Speaker 3: is when it has a really intriguing plot, and yes
Speaker 3: there are horror elements to it, but maybe even without it,
Speaker 3: it's just like it's so interesting, the concept of what
Speaker 3: you're going to do next is so consuming that it's
Speaker 3: worth it even if it's a little scary or if
Speaker 3: there's like some supernatural elements. A good example of that
Speaker 3: is like from Dusk until Dawn, oh right, which is
Speaker 3: like so fucking good, and it is a horror movie,
Speaker 3: like a lot of people die, it's got some gore,
Speaker 3: it's like pretty scary, half.
Speaker 2: A Tarantino movie and half like a gory vampire movie.
Speaker 3: It's fucking great, right, Like, it's super engaging, you want
Speaker 3: to know what happens next, it's sexy. Whew. I also
Speaker 3: think it's genre bending, it's funny, it's got some good
Speaker 3: humor elements in it. But yeah, it's got vampires and
Speaker 3: like people die and so like that's like peak for me,
Speaker 3: So I get it. I don't know if that's for me.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up, Like, I just don't.
Speaker 3: I was like kind of after I saw the Rotten
Speaker 3: Tomato squirrels, like, I guess I'm supposed to watch this now,
Speaker 3: but like, if it's a gore fest, that's really not
Speaker 3: my jam. Yeah, yeah, I think get reviewed so high.
Speaker 1: No, I've just been reading plot points from all three
Speaker 1: of them for the past few minutes and it's just, yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't.
Speaker 2: Sounds sounds like a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, Bobby, I'm gonna put best terrifyers that you have
Speaker 3: to watch all three? Which one got you? Guys? Tell
Speaker 3: us which one is the best one to watch?
Speaker 1: All right? Well, thank you for writing in, Bobby Wes
Speaker 1: and doctor Fernando. All Right, uh, well, that's your episode.
Speaker 1: As usual. You can ran the fire scapecast at gmail
Speaker 1: dot com. Next episode will be Game of the Year.
Speaker 2: That seems impossible. I have Extra Life this weekend coming up,
Speaker 2: and that's crazy to think. We also, so I got
Speaker 2: all those guys flying in for Extra Life and then
Speaker 2: very quickly I have all you flying in, so well
Speaker 2: we'll watch the betting and everything. So uh you know,
Speaker 2: we'll get all the grub and minati. That's so yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be sad.
Speaker 3: Change the mattresses, well, it'll clip them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have the episode.
Speaker 2: He's gonna get Disney all over it. Disney Magic is
Speaker 2: what he calls it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Disney Adult, that's what he does. November sixteenth. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be our live show Saturday, November sixteenth.
Speaker 2: Not live show, live show in place stage.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's gonna be our live stream Game of the Year,
Speaker 1: Game of the Air live stream. Happy. Yeah, it's all right,
Speaker 1: it's a live we'll post were live streaming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whi which okay, wait, so we got to
Speaker 2: hammer this down now. So it's going to be on
Speaker 2: the YouTube, the fire Escape YouTube after the fact. Yes,
Speaker 2: So if you want to watch the bod check out
Speaker 2: the fire escape YouTube and are we just doing my
Speaker 2: Twitch channel or are we making one between now and then?
Speaker 1: For fires should probably make one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, would we get? Would get as many people
Speaker 2: watch sausages made folks, I mean the brand new Twitter
Speaker 2: account or Twitch account.
Speaker 1: I think the people are gonna watch. You're gonna watch
Speaker 1: it regardless of which channel it's on. But we can
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Speaker 4: Dave's killer Bread, David jail Bread. Probably Dave's murderous bread.
Speaker 4: He used to be a murderer, but now he makes
Speaker 4: bread and fucking he was richer than you.
Speaker 3: He fucking hit police with his car and now he's batman.
Speaker 1: He does he does have batman money now. But yeah,
Speaker 1: keep an eye on our socials so you could see
Speaker 1: the specifics. But yeah, it'll be Saturday, November sixteenth, and
Speaker 1: then the breakout recording for the video will be in
Speaker 1: our YouTube channel after that on Monday, but we'll also
Speaker 1: just have the audio up on Monday. As episode ninety four.
Speaker 1: I gotta look back and see whether we counted Game
Speaker 1: of the Year as like a numbered episode last I
Speaker 1: know we did. I know we put it up as
Speaker 1: as like at the usual time, but I got to
Speaker 1: see if we this is just for my edification afterwards,
Speaker 1: so we know, so we don't like do episode one
Speaker 1: hundred a week early or late.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we count it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and then yeah, like I said, if you
Speaker 1: are not a patron yet and you want to become
Speaker 1: a patron because you want to be ready for all
Speaker 1: of the Game of the Year stuff and all of
Speaker 1: our end of the year stuff and bonus episodes, we'll
Speaker 1: find time to make a couple of those. We really
Speaker 1: need it, yes, because we owe it to the people.
Speaker 2: Were there, we said, Eco Point Nova. What was the
Speaker 2: other one that would be good.
Speaker 1: Called Duty Zombies. Oh yeah. You will not have to
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Speaker 1: every month. If you sign up, let's say November fourteenth,
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Speaker 1: You appreciate what we do. Every dollar helps. The Game
Speaker 1: of the Year show is possible at the end of
Speaker 1: the year largely because of patrons, so we appreciate I
Speaker 1: appreciate all the patronage there. Outside of that, you could
Speaker 1: also go to Firescape Merch dot com if you want
Speaker 1: to get some merch and wear it and tweeted us,
Speaker 1: or maybe we can like repost something on Instagram around
Speaker 1: Game of the Year people wearing their stuff, get people
Speaker 1: jacked up, get amped for the Game of the Year show.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be wearing some fire skate merch on the
Speaker 1: show for sure. Outside of that, Dan, what do you
Speaker 1: have going on apart from Firescape?
Speaker 2: Check out Giant Bomb. We have our Game of the
Speaker 2: Year stuff coming up. We've got Giant Bomb at Night
Speaker 2: coming up around the Game Awards, so stay tuned and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. We'll have the couch set up grub
Speaker 2: interviewing a rotating cast of industry personalities. So yeah, and
Speaker 2: then we'll have our Game of the Year stuff over
Speaker 2: there as well. So yeah, check out giant Bomb, follow
Speaker 2: me on Twitch. Hope do more streaming in the near
Speaker 2: future here And that's about it, Mary, What about you.
Speaker 3: The usual twitchy things. I'm still streaming on Mondays, except
Speaker 3: this week because I was too sick, but I usually
Speaker 3: do try and going live on Twitch also just to
Speaker 3: talk about you know, twitch stuff on Twitch, very twitch
Speaker 3: stuff going on over here. What are you doing, Mike?
Speaker 1: Just Firescape get ready for the Game of the Year.
Speaker 1: Got some travel coming up, although I'm done for like
Speaker 1: two weeks, which is awesome because this is the first
Speaker 1: two weeks we don't have to travel in several months.
Speaker 2: It's a good feeling.
Speaker 1: It's gonna use it to catch up on the eight
Speaker 1: video games I need to play before just so I
Speaker 1: have ammunition, or I'll just finish metaphor no, I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: I'll do my homework for a Game of the Year
Speaker 1: as usual. Thank you everybody for joining for episode ninety three.
Speaker 1: We will be back in two weeks with our Game
Speaker 1: of the Year episode on November sixteenth. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: the actual live stream, but again, if you happen to
Speaker 1: miss it, for whatever reason, will be up as a
Speaker 1: normal episode on November eighteenth. We're excited earlier in the
Speaker 1: year that we usually do, just because things are getting
Speaker 1: crazy later in December. And yeah, we're looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for Aster about to get number nine.
Speaker 2: To each to their own.
Speaker 1: You just got really heated for a second.
Speaker 2: I could tell I'm breaking pencils in both hands right now.
Speaker 1: You're sawing yourself down the middle starting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, don't worry, Mary, were to anything.
Speaker 3: No, I'll tell you this.
Speaker 1: So I asked for about reference.
Speaker 3: I did not. I had my headphones off and I
Speaker 3: saw this and I saw yeah, yeah, And I'm not
Speaker 3: a fucking idiot.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, it could be anything. If I didn't realize
Speaker 1: as a whole, there's a whole, there's a whole.
Speaker 2: You really, who's just a mime with that man? He
Speaker 2: kind of a clown mime?
Speaker 3: Know what this means?
Speaker 2: What does it mean? Mary? You're so smart?
Speaker 3: He saw a person in half. Their legs probably are
Speaker 3: their arms.
Speaker 2: That's not all the details. It's a murky. It seems
Speaker 2: like it's a murky for you.
Speaker 1: You didn't hear how long it was or what how
Speaker 1: he sounds low.
Speaker 3: He was my headphones off ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't really tell her everything.
Speaker 2: There are some cut details you don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh, like her titties were flapping in the wind when
Speaker 3: it was happening.
Speaker 2: Well, that does happen. Although I didn't say it, that
Speaker 2: absolutely happens.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the whole, wicked, very specific thing happens.
Speaker 1: There's a whole Wikipedia entry for death by sawing from
Speaker 1: like click to.
Speaker 2: When I was looking at the Wikipedia, it's like, Wow,
Speaker 2: they people did this for Shoot, that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like being drawn and quartered. That's fucked up too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like people just did shitty things back then.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that doesn't happen as much.
Speaker 3: All the time.
Speaker 1: Dan or pulled apart by horses. I think that might
Speaker 1: have been apocryphal. I also could be very wrong and
Speaker 1: that might have actually happened. I don't know.
Speaker 2: They should stop doing that.
Speaker 1: We just have guns now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems better. I don't know.
Speaker 3: All right, Thanks for everybody, Dan, While, while we're on
Speaker 3: the way out, what do you think of immigration and
Speaker 3: the NRA supporter? Dan Reiker sign, I had no idea
Speaker 3: that you were such a cardoon.
Speaker 2: Between drawing and quartering and sawing people in half by
Speaker 2: their privates, guns seem like a better way to go
Speaker 2: if I had to choose one of the three, That's
Speaker 2: all I'm saying, rather not have any of them.
Speaker 3: You've obviously never been shot in the dick.
Speaker 2: That sounds bad, too, well, it all sounds.
Speaker 3: You should have thought about that before you joined the
Speaker 3: n RA.
Speaker 2: A Oh, dear.
Speaker 1: By the next episode. See for Game of the Year.