WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:14.119 Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It 2 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:17.320 is episode ninety three. I'm Mike Mahardy here as always 3 00:00:17.359 --> 00:00:18.199 with Dan Rikert. 4 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:20.879 Hello, Mary Kish, Hello. 5 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:29.120 And my cat Daisy decided to come intro. Oh my god, 6 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:33.200 I was gonna move her mouth me, Michael Wow. 7 00:00:33.719 --> 00:00:35.719 For the audience. For those who aren't on the video feed, 8 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:39.119 that is just a cat speaking into a microphone. You 9 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:41.119 won't know if I'm lying unless you joined the Patreon 10 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:43.200 on the video gotch. 11 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:44.159 I love Amanda more. 12 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:48.119 Yeah, that's not a lie. She's You're not far off 13 00:00:48.359 --> 00:00:48.799 they all do. 14 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:50.439 I mean she said it. 15 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:54.039 Diazy has become I don't know if I've told you that. 16 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:57.159 She just decided like two weeks ago to become a 17 00:00:57.280 --> 00:00:59.039 lapcat at five years old. 18 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:02.719 As animals get older, I think you can see there's 19 00:01:02.759 --> 00:01:04.400 like we see it with like Razor, just getting like 20 00:01:04.439 --> 00:01:06.120 a little more chill or a little different. 21 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:06.879 Yeah. 22 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:08.480 I think that happens. It happens with people. When you 23 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:10.000 get older, you get different, right, that's what. 24 00:01:10.879 --> 00:01:13.719 Yeah, I forget what five is in cat years, because 25 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:16.599 cat years isn't just seven years like dogs. It's it's 26 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:19.280 like way more at first, but then when they're older. 27 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:22.319 Each year is oh not human years. So what does 28 00:01:22.359 --> 00:01:25.040 it say for five year old cats? How old is she? Well? 29 00:01:25.319 --> 00:01:29.040 Google AI says, it's just the thing at the top. 30 00:01:29.120 --> 00:01:34.959 It's the quickest thing, right. The first year. Okay, here's 31 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:36.920 from Purina. Okay, this is from. 32 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:38.560 Purina dot com the source. 33 00:01:39.040 --> 00:01:40.159 Look the second thing. 34 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:43.400 Okay, cat chat real Okay. 35 00:01:43.560 --> 00:01:45.519 The first year of your cat's life is considered the 36 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:49.079 equivalent of fifteen human years. Yeah, second year adds nine, 37 00:01:49.480 --> 00:01:52.760 so two cat years are twenty four human years. After this, 38 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:56.400 each additional human year is four cat years. So age 39 00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:00.840 three would be twenty eight. So thirty six, yeah, thirty six, 40 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:04.000 so they're thirty six. They're like they're our age now. 41 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:06.480 And now she's decided to cuddle on my lap. I'm 42 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:09.000 not thirty six, but might as well be. And she 43 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:10.280 just like started doing it. 44 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:13.400 I think the colder weather also is you know, they 45 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:16.400 need me for heat sometimes, but it's. 46 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:18.520 Really cut a laptop me. 47 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:21.240 Yeah, you sound like shit. By the way, what's wrong, 48 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:27.560 I'm sick. I'm just clearing the air before I'm sick. 49 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:30.199 Very what do you got? What do you say? 50 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:30.280 What? 51 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:33.400 I don't know, it's not it's not the big one 52 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:41.280 tested tested. That's for death, big true, that's true. I 53 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:45.319 like grossly overestimated the power of COVID. Yeah, it's it's 54 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:48.400 I'm not dying and I don't have anything like severely 55 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:50.479 wrong with me. But I did have a fever two 56 00:02:50.599 --> 00:02:53.319 days ago, and I broke it yesterday, and I think 57 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:57.879 now I'm just like recuperating ye old voice. Also, sometimes 58 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:01.080 I'm just tired, and sometimes what I think I'm gonna 59 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:05.520 say in my brain comes out terribly after it's come out, 60 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:06.639 I think it's happening right now. 61 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:09.000 That's why you don't put things in your brain first, 62 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:11.280 you just haven't come out your head. Yeah. 63 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:20.560 Yeah. Dan's filter is a like reverse osmosis, where he 64 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:23.159 says stuff and then it goes back into his brain 65 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:25.560 and then he evaluates it after it's been said a 66 00:03:25.560 --> 00:03:26.360 few seconds ago. 67 00:03:26.560 --> 00:03:29.039 That happens when I'm listening to like, somebody will say 68 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:31.879 something to me and I'll go like yeah, and I 69 00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:34.639 won't understand what they said, and then I'll respond, and 70 00:03:34.680 --> 00:03:36.479 then I'll think about what they said and be like, oh, 71 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:38.680 that's what they said, but I've already said yeah or 72 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:41.479 laughed or something. It's kind of a problem. 73 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:45.479 I hesitate to bring this up. I'm not gonna go 74 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:48.039 to specifics because I do it like no, no, no, no. 75 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:50.599 It involves like person like people we know, and I'm 76 00:03:50.599 --> 00:03:53.000 not going to say names. But Dan, you made a 77 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:55.439 you Bianca and Amanda and I we went out to 78 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:58.039 dinner like two weeks ago, and you said a joke 79 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:00.879 that at the time you made it comparison. At the 80 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:04.199 time that was like, I was like that that was 81 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:06.919 pretty funny. But then like that night in bed, I 82 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:09.039 was like, that was really fucking funny. I should have 83 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:09.680 laughed harder. 84 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:12.639 No joke you're talking about it? Yeh, very funny, you 85 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:14.560 know how like you got a laugh from another friend. 86 00:04:14.919 --> 00:04:16.680 Yeah, I was. It was the end of the day. 87 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:18.160 I was having I have a lull at like five 88 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:20.360 pm every day, and you you know, we saw you 89 00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:23.519 right around then. But it's kind of like when you 90 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:27.120 are laying in bed going over something embarrassing that happened 91 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:30.279 that day, I like had an epiphans I should have 92 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:32.639 left so much harder at that joke. Dan told me 93 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:35.079 it was really I need to know it was impressive. 94 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:36.279 Well can I just take the laugh now? 95 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:41.360 That? 96 00:04:41.480 --> 00:04:41.920 Oh good? 97 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:42.399 That was good. 98 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:46.879 Yeah, I'll take you. Look at all. All's forgiven. We're good. No, no, no, Hey, 99 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:48.560 I'm the one who told the joke. Mary, I get 100 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:50.000 to have the final verdict on this. 101 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:51.399 I think that's sad for you. 102 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:55.759 Then, I liked Mike's joke earlier about how Mary's voice 103 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:57.600 is hoarse because she was cheering too loud in Madison 104 00:04:57.600 --> 00:05:02.759 Square Garden recently. I thought that was fun. That's my 105 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:03.480 laugh for that one. 106 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:07.680 That's the kind of joke I make before we record, right, 107 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:11.480 people don't hear it, Dan Oh, I mean Vinny Vinnie 108 00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:13.839 hopped in the zoom and said that, Yeah. 109 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:18.040 These are really funny. These are really funny jokes. 110 00:05:20.360 --> 00:05:22.720 I like how the butt of the joke changes every 111 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:26.040 episode so far. It's been a lot to marry a 112 00:05:26.120 --> 00:05:29.519 Jake special yep. Although then I became about the joke 113 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:31.199 and you changed Jake dot Org. 114 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:34.360 Going back that because you weren't fast enough. 115 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:35.560 That was a really fun joke. 116 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:36.920 Jake won that round you. 117 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:38.120 So Jake won that around you. 118 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:39.079 Hmm. 119 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:42.519 I'm not smart enough to defend myself right now because 120 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:46.040 I have sick. What's the problem here is that you 121 00:05:46.079 --> 00:05:49.639 guys are picking on someone who doesn't have the full 122 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:52.160 capacity of their brain. And I think that says more 123 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:54.759 about you than it does about me, who is a 124 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:57.720 victim in this situation. I am doing my best to 125 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:00.639 keep up, but it takes me a little longer to 126 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:04.439 retort and call you what you are. In these situations, 127 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:06.360 I have to think about it, process it, and by 128 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:08.120 the time I usually come up with a really nice, 129 00:06:08.160 --> 00:06:10.480 witty comeback, the moment has passed and I just have 130 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:11.079 to be quiet. 131 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:14.040 Well, the question, you know, we're typically drinking during this show, 132 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:18.199 and that impairs speed and reflexes and things like that. 133 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:22.000 So do you feel like sober and sick is slower 134 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:24.920 than not sick? And if you drinks in. 135 00:06:25.279 --> 00:06:29.839 Oh not me, honey, alcohol only improves the speed in veracity. 136 00:06:29.480 --> 00:06:32.759 There's mouse there's like a drink count or. 137 00:06:32.839 --> 00:06:36.480 Like Bomber's peak for sure, what does Bomber's peak like? 138 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:43.720 Notorious for engineers or like essentially coders who would drink 139 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:49.360 because it improves your creativity, your flexibility, and your curiosity 140 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:52.000 to a certain degree. And so people who were like programming. 141 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:53.920 It's like an old comics you can look it up. 142 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.000 But like, is this Steve Baumber thing that? 143 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:59.000 Yeah, the comic is depicting essentially like a bunch of 144 00:06:59.040 --> 00:07:02.600 programmers who are at Bomber's peak, and so it's making 145 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:05.519 them really creative and really interesting and they're writing amazing code. 146 00:07:05.759 --> 00:07:07.560 But the problem is is that you can never maintain 147 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:09.319 Bomber's peak because you drink too much and then you 148 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:12.560 pass out, and so it's it's a fallacy, like you 149 00:07:12.600 --> 00:07:13.560 can't maintain it. 150 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:17.199 Sweet spot. There is a sweet spot with like I 151 00:07:17.279 --> 00:07:20.480 have Bomber's peak during Astrobot speed runs where it's like, Okay, 152 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:23.279 I'm like four drinks in, I'm like, you know, not 153 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:25.800 getting in my head about stuff, but I'm not like sloppy, 154 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:27.480 Like yeah, there's a right amount. 155 00:07:27.240 --> 00:07:30.399 Of the deck sterity goes up, right, Like have you 156 00:07:30.439 --> 00:07:33.199 ever drank when you're like taking on like a crazy 157 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:35.360 bloodborne boss or something, You're just like, I'm so fluid, 158 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:38.040 I'm thinking of his moves before he's making them. I'm 159 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:40.360 in the motherfuckings Oh my god, I'm drunk. And then 160 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:42.399 you and then you had to fall asleep at your keyboard, 161 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:44.319 and you know that happened to the best of us. 162 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:47.279 That's so rare with me, the falling asleep. It's happened, 163 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:49.600 but on a rare occasion, like sleeping in a couch 164 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:51.800 or a chair or something. I like, that's why I 165 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:53.959 can't sleep on planes and stuff, is because I can't 166 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:57.680 be in a seated position sleeping easily reclined. Sure, if 167 00:07:57.759 --> 00:07:59.560 I got like a lazy boy situation going on, that's 168 00:07:59.560 --> 00:08:01.920 happened more often. But like, do you ever play. 169 00:08:01.600 --> 00:08:04.040 On a couch like where you're like kind of it's 170 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:07.120 a lounge couch situation. Like I fall asleep like that 171 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:09.040 all the time, And I just got a new couch 172 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:12.560 and so now it's, yeah, I'm in trouble if it's 173 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:14.639 it's the couch that has half of it is a 174 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:18.000 sitting couch and half of visit a legs extendo couch. 175 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:23.680 You know I'm talking about, yeah leg rest situation. And 176 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:26.879 if I do that, and I have usually my Steam 177 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.639 deck and I'm playing something in there, all bets are off. 178 00:08:29.720 --> 00:08:32.559 At any moment, no matter where I am in a 179 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.279 video game, I might just fall asleep and have a 180 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.679 and I just wake up like an hour later and 181 00:08:40.000 --> 00:08:43.120 I'm happy and nothing bad really happened to me. There's 182 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.200 no punishment for it usually, So yeah, I mean it's 183 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:47.519 just become a natural occurrence. 184 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:51.080 Ye are you not like waking up the airport or something. 185 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:51.799 You're probably fine. 186 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.759 Yeah, you don't want to wake up in a lawless land. 187 00:08:55.039 --> 00:08:58.240 If you wake up in like, you know, Toledo on 188 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:01.039 a random Tuesday, you've gone too far. But if you're 189 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:03.720 in your home, you're you're safe still with your blanking 190 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:04.159 on you. 191 00:09:04.600 --> 00:09:07.360 Yeah, have you guys seen we might may have talked. 192 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:08.600 Is that Mexican Coca Cola? 193 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:14.039 It is you, guys. I'm a costco homie now, Yeah, 194 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:14.879 I can't help it. 195 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:18.200 I can't believe it. For good prices they yet they 196 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:20.559 ran like really good wines that should not be as 197 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:21.240 cheap as they are. 198 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:24.240 It's crazy, it's crazy what they offer. But the Mexican 199 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:26.679 cokes there are like such a scam. It's such a 200 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:29.879 good deal. And if I'm gonna drink soda, I'm not 201 00:09:30.080 --> 00:09:31.759 much of a soda person. Dan, I know you're a 202 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:34.799 big soda head, so like we can maybe talk about this, 203 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:38.120 but like I usually just do not drink SODA's ever, 204 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:41.360 it's not in my thing. I'm a I'm a Lacroix person. 205 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:44.000 I usually drink like soda water if I want something crispy, 206 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:47.639 But I do not have any kind of soda almost 207 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:50.320 ever in my life. But a Mexican coke at the 208 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.799 glass bottle, it's just like it's I don't know, it's 209 00:09:54.840 --> 00:09:58.200 a treat. It's like somebody gave me a gift. It's 210 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:00.759 a decadent dessert. It makes me feel like a million bucks. 211 00:10:00.759 --> 00:10:01.960 I love it. It's such a good treat. 212 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:04.559 I believe it. The only thing is I just I've 213 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:08.960 never bought a full normal soda since like before college 214 00:10:09.039 --> 00:10:11.080 or maybe early college, so it's all zero. And like, 215 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:13.159 I don't think they do zero Mexican coke. 216 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:15.519 I don't think they do have zero. 217 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:18.039 I don't think they do no. 218 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:22.919 I think there'd be something like just completely impossible about it, 219 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:25.320 considering the whole point of Mexican coke is that it's 220 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:29.000 made with sugar instead of corn syrup, which is like 221 00:10:29.600 --> 00:10:34.559 our American systems, And I don't think zero has corn syrup. 222 00:10:34.720 --> 00:10:37.000 I would assume it's all su gross or some kind 223 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:37.559 of like fake. 224 00:10:37.679 --> 00:10:38.480 Oh okay. 225 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:41.480 I used to know that There was a period when 226 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:44.120 I was younger and I was getting tested for allergies 227 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:47.360 and it turned out one of them was corn. So 228 00:10:47.440 --> 00:10:50.039 like we were like, all right, if it's bad, nothing, 229 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:51.679 I guess corn syrup will have a little bit to 230 00:10:51.720 --> 00:10:53.639 do with that, So I started trying to avoid coins 231 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:56.000 corn syrup in all of it, in everything. 232 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:59.000 I had an allergy test this morning, my first time ever. 233 00:10:59.320 --> 00:11:00.519 It was what did they do? 234 00:11:00.639 --> 00:11:01.320 Do they do the prick? 235 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:03.720 Yeah, a billion little pricks in my back and then 236 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:05.639 they did I didn't know this was like a medical term, 237 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:07.840 but they did still have these raised dots in my forearm. 238 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:09.960 They're like, Okay, we're gonna test for food stuff by putting. 239 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:12.399 It's not a shot, it's not an injection. It's just 240 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:15.039 like a little blip under your skin. And they said 241 00:11:15.159 --> 00:11:18.320 blip like a lot to the point where I was like, 242 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:20.519 is this an actual medical thing that I've never heard 243 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:22.240 or because I've only heard it like, oh, a dog 244 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:24.799 was like sticking his tongue out. Weird. Like, we're put 245 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:26.960 like six blips under your forearm. I don't know what 246 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:27.320 that means. 247 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:30.200 Go it an acronym, I don't know, but. 248 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:34.440 It's just like six bumps they inject like wheat and 249 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:36.960 oil or whatever under your forearm and they see if 250 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.399 it like freaks out and sprouts another arm. And it 251 00:11:39.399 --> 00:11:41.799 didn't do that for me, So yeah, I guess I'm fine. 252 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:44.320 Why did you get the Well, first off, I hated 253 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:46.519 the prot test because several of them went nuts on 254 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:50.879 my back. Oh really yeah, grass went crazy like grass 255 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.440 grew on your back. It was so bad that it 256 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:56.960 like it like it got red and a huge bump 257 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:59.759 and the red overtook some of the other pricks so 258 00:12:00.200 --> 00:12:00.960 radiated out for me. 259 00:12:01.080 --> 00:12:04.360 Yeah, yeah, no, But did you. 260 00:12:04.279 --> 00:12:05.720 Just get Was it like a routine thing or have 261 00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:08.440 you been booked? You had? 262 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:11.000 It takes forever if you book something here where. I 263 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:13.559 booked it back before I had my sinus surgery, just 264 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:15.279 being like when I was having all those infections, I 265 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:17.799 was like, that's the spring. Maybe I'm allergic to something 266 00:12:17.919 --> 00:12:20.480 or pollen in Minnesota or something. So I booked it 267 00:12:20.639 --> 00:12:23.000 and the earliest date they had was today. And in 268 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:25.519 between booking it and now I like had surgery and 269 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:27.840 recovery and stuff. But I was like, I'm so curious, 270 00:12:27.879 --> 00:12:29.919 why not I'll get the test. So but I think 271 00:12:29.960 --> 00:12:30.320 I'm good. 272 00:12:30.600 --> 00:12:32.360 It seems like it's a nice thing to do. I mean, 273 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:34.639 I'm not even I don't have a lot of allergies. 274 00:12:34.679 --> 00:12:37.799 I'd be very curious if my body had any reactions 275 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.000 to any items. Like I would do it just for 276 00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:43.279 the knowledge of like what I'm allergic to. So did 277 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:46.360 you did you have any reactions to any bleps? Nothing? 278 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:49.720 There's the one like control poke they do on your 279 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:51.480 back to like compare the other ones to do. And 280 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:52.960 this said, Oh, that one's like a histamine thing that's 281 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:54.399 going to make an itch for a little bit, Like 282 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:57.120 I slightly itched for a little bit. But it just 283 00:12:57.360 --> 00:13:01.000 it was easy. It was fine. Nothing reacted bad. Uh yeah, simple. 284 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:03.080 They drew some blood to check some other stuff. But man, 285 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:03.759 it's all easy. 286 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:06.360 So you don't have any allergies. 287 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:07.639 I'm not allergic to anything. 288 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:09.480 No, why did you do it again? 289 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:15.200 I was wondering about earlier because I booked it in 290 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:21.559 the spring. Maybe I'm getting nine thousand, understand. 291 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:25.840 I heard the story. I don't understand why. 292 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:29.480 You book this is that's a bit that was me. 293 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:31.559 I'm going to bed. 294 00:13:32.480 --> 00:13:34.120 Yeah, you boked it a while ago before he had 295 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:36.240 all the surgeries, and the surgeries all helped and now 296 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:37.360 he feels fine, but he hadn't. 297 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:41.480 Okay, I see, I'm still curious, man, I'd like to 298 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:43.919 know about my body and what. 299 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:46.240 You find out if it's something like allergies, before you 300 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:48.679 have major surgery. So you did a little out of order, 301 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:50.639 but I guess it just worked out in the end, 302 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:52.600 Thank you American health Care system. 303 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:54.519 Yeah, I would have booked it sooner, but like it 304 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:56.480 literally was like, oh, six months from now is the 305 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:57.960 earliest thing. So that's great. 306 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:00.639 That's so crazy. I was thinking about out and got 307 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:04.080 the big one looking into a deviated septum because my 308 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:08.360 nose is always stuffy, and I've heard that deviated septums 309 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:11.399 are like you know, it's I mean, it is a procedure, 310 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:14.679 but it's totally fixable with modern science, and it's really 311 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:18.360 worth looking into. And like these things are booked out 312 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:20.919 six months in advance, so if I wanted to like 313 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:24.200 get my deviated septum fixed, I have to like call 314 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:27.279 a doc now and book it and see me in 315 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:27.879 the next year. 316 00:14:28.480 --> 00:14:30.080 Might as well, Like you'll book it and then forget 317 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:31.440 about it, and then it'll come up for you know, 318 00:14:31.440 --> 00:14:33.320 and it's like, oh shit, get that done, like they 319 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:33.600 did that. 320 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:35.919 That's got recovery though, that the allergy thing, you just 321 00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:39.320 came home and you're fine. Deviate septum has quite a recovery. 322 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:41.320 It's like getting a little nose job. 323 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:42.720 We both got it, Dan and me. 324 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:44.679 Yeah, they did it with mine while they're in there 325 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:45.919 doing the sinus stuff like. 326 00:14:47.559 --> 00:14:49.919 Two weeks, so they got these like stints up it, right. 327 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:53.399 I didn't need the stens, but it still was for 328 00:14:53.399 --> 00:14:53.759 a while. 329 00:14:54.159 --> 00:14:56.559 Yeah, I had the whole mind was bad, so like 330 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:59.120 my whole left nostril just like didn't work my whole life. 331 00:14:59.159 --> 00:15:01.480 And I never really asked anybody about it, so no 332 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:03.799 one knew that it wasn't working. I was like, why 333 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:05.600 do we have two nostrils? I thought it was like 334 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:08.519 a like a kidney situation. My mom's like, what are 335 00:15:08.559 --> 00:15:10.600 you talking about? I was like, why do we have 336 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:12.519 two nostrils if we only breathe through one? She's like, 337 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:13.960 are you congested right now? I was like no, I 338 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:15.919 feel fine. She's like, are you telling me you can't 339 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:18.200 breathe through one of your nostrils? I was like yes, 340 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:21.440 She's like how long? I don't know, seventeen years. 341 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:25.480 I didn't realize until like two years ago, and I 342 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:27.080 was doing a yoga class and they were like, let's 343 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:29.279 do some bread stuff and she was like, okay, so 344 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:32.039 cover one nostril and out, cover the other one and 345 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:34.200 out and like one of them just doesn't do that. 346 00:15:34.840 --> 00:15:36.879 It turns out like, yeah, I just wouldn't breathing through 347 00:15:36.879 --> 00:15:37.320 the right one. 348 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:40.279 It helps broke out like turns out being able to 349 00:15:40.279 --> 00:15:43.600 breathe like symmetrically. And I was playing sports up in 350 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:46.759 like fairly well up until then and then afterwards like, 351 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:49.679 oh my god, I've been working like over time, like 352 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:51.840 twice as hard to run the same amount. 353 00:15:52.159 --> 00:15:54.600 If only they could have unlocked that during your peak 354 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:57.360 high school years, you could have made State Mike. 355 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:00.720 Oh dude, I'd be I'd be fucking you would have 356 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:01.320 been able to read. 357 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:06.000 Yeah, you could have climbed mountains with both of those 358 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:07.399 nose hooles opened up. 359 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:10.279 I'd be the fourth Splash brother. Everything would have been different. 360 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:13.720 I wouldn't be fucking like Naku in those weight chambers 361 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:17.960 like heavy gravity chambers, just struggling to do setups and 362 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:19.679 all you needed was that second hole. 363 00:16:20.039 --> 00:16:22.320 I wouldn't fucking be talking to YouTube every two weeks, 364 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:22.919 that's for sure. 365 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:26.240 I do wonder if that was something because I did. 366 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:29.480 I just did another half marathon on Sunday, and the 367 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:31.840 last one, like all my training and everything was done 368 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:35.480 without the surgery, and this one was like a billion 369 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:38.159 times easier for me than the first half marathon this year. 370 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:39.919 But I think another big part of it, though, was 371 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:43.120 it was thirty four degrees this time, and the one 372 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:45.279 I did in July was eighty degrees by the end, 373 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:47.120 and so like I was full on, Like when I 374 00:16:47.120 --> 00:16:50.120 crossed the finish line in July, I felt fucked up, 375 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:51.960 Like I remember thinking like I need to sit down 376 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:54.159 and just eat a bunch of cookies or something until 377 00:16:54.200 --> 00:16:56.480 I feel like I can, like drive this one. I 378 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:58.360 crossed the finished line, grab bottle of water and like, yeah, 379 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:00.519 I'm good to go, Like it's so much better when 380 00:17:00.519 --> 00:17:01.399 it's cold outside. 381 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:03.000 How many halfs is that now? 382 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:06.839 Three? And I signed up for a full marathon next year. 383 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:09.160 You can start telling everybody you've run one and a 384 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:10.000 half marathons. 385 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:12.559 Ad, no, no, I'll be back runding good three halves 386 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:14.480 and I'll do the full next year. My sister's going 387 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:17.920 to train with me, so that'll be fun from a distance. Yep, yep. 388 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:19.799 So she'll train in Kansas and then she'll fly up 389 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:21.640 for the thing in October. 390 00:17:21.960 --> 00:17:24.799 How do is it the Minneapolis Marathon. 391 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:25.640 Twin Cities Marathon? 392 00:17:25.720 --> 00:17:26.279 Yeah? 393 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:28.960 How does that? Like? I know training for that is like, Okay, 394 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:30.920 one day you do two miles and then you rest, 395 00:17:31.000 --> 00:17:33.599 and then the next day you do six and then 396 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:35.000 you rest and then you kind of work up to 397 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:36.920 peaks and then you work back down and then you 398 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:37.400 work up. 399 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:38.200 Yeah. 400 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:40.160 Am I sort of describing it? 401 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:42.440 Well, I've got it on my Google calendar. It starts 402 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:45.119 in May and then so like let's say, let's look 403 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:47.960 at June. My long run Saturday is eight miles, then 404 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:49.519 it's nine, then it goes down to six. Then he 405 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:51.400 goes to eleven, then he goes to twelve. So it 406 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:52.880 does kind of go up and bring it down every 407 00:17:52.920 --> 00:17:54.400 once in a while, but this is slowly, like the 408 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:56.759 trend line's going up. So like by late July, I'm 409 00:17:56.759 --> 00:18:01.839 doing fifteen miles. Get into August seventeen, eight nineteen, just 410 00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:03.519 working a ry after that in twenty six. 411 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:06.359 Do you run twenty six before the marathon at all? 412 00:18:07.559 --> 00:18:10.079 No, it looks like the longest I will run before 413 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:13.759 is twenty on September thirteenth. 414 00:18:13.799 --> 00:18:17.119 Maybe it's just like not worth the injury risk after 415 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:19.640 those six that extra six miles or something. I don't know. 416 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:22.440 I could see it because it was three four days ago. 417 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:24.200 I did this half and like my left foot is 418 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:25.839 like I don't think I like broke anything or whatever, 419 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:27.519 but just like I can feel like the bones in 420 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:29.799 my left foot are like hurting, so I'm like icing 421 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:32.200 it and stuff. So if that happens at thirteen miles, 422 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:34.920 I can't imagine doing nineteen twenty pleasure. 423 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:38.759 Yeah, my uncle, I forget how many he's run, but 424 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:41.960 he like places well sorry, not like top three. I 425 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:45.079 don't think top three, but he like he takes it seriously, 426 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:47.480 does it in under whatever the hour count is that like, 427 00:18:47.480 --> 00:18:49.920 oh you're a serious marathon run or whatever. And he 428 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:52.519 was saying I was like, have you ever gotten like 429 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:54.839 this random injury like two hours in or sorry, two 430 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:57.039 miles in? He's like yeah. I was like what And 431 00:18:57.079 --> 00:18:59.559 he described some of the injuries he got at two 432 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:02.440 miles and I was like that sucks to just have 433 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:04.079 to end the racers like, oh, I ran the rest 434 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:06.119 of the race. I just didn't run quickly. I was like, 435 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:09.119 but you I forgot I wish I knew remembered what. 436 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:11.240 But it was like an injury that if I was 437 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:14.400 playing basketball, I would leave the court immediately. Sure, he 438 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:16.599 just ran another twenty four miles or something because you're like, 439 00:19:16.640 --> 00:19:18.799 well I did a year for this, Like. 440 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:21.400 Yeah, if it's on if it's on race day and 441 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:23.640 you're literally not like it's not like a bone sticking 442 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:25.200 out of your leg or something like you know, you 443 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:26.920 train for yeah, the better part of a year. Like 444 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.240 I would probably run through there, Like my foot was hurting. 445 00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:30.839 By the end of this one. I was like, this 446 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:32.079 is my last run of the year. 447 00:19:32.119 --> 00:19:35.200 Basically all the bones were inside and so you can't run. 448 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:37.319 Yeah, I would have accepted an injury if you know 449 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:38.000 it was my last run. 450 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:40.160 Yeah. When the doctors check you out before the run, 451 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:42.759 they're always like, where are the bones, And if they're 452 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:45.200 all on the inside, fucking run. 453 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:46.839 If there's one poking out, they just kind of poke 454 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:48.279 it back in and you know you're gonna go put 455 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:49.480 a band aid over it. You're good. 456 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:54.400 Yeah, just periodically pussy everybody got this. 457 00:19:54.440 --> 00:19:57.279 Pussy's way. He's got a bone sticking out, My bone 458 00:19:57.319 --> 00:19:59.799 hurts me. 459 00:20:00.079 --> 00:20:03.400 Meanwhile, fans orb is hanging out of his body. Loser, 460 00:20:05.359 --> 00:20:06.480 his orb is intact. 461 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:11.039 He's fine, my orb was drawn. Yeah, well that's cool. 462 00:20:10.759 --> 00:20:13.799 That's exciting. Twenty six point two miles. 463 00:20:13.480 --> 00:20:15.880 Yep yep, that'll be October. I mean, we'll see I 464 00:20:15.880 --> 00:20:18.200 could get injured. Any number of things gonna happen, but that. 465 00:20:18.839 --> 00:20:20.799 Hit twenty six miles. You only have point two left, 466 00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:23.279 and then one of your friends flew in secretly and 467 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:25.759 comes out of nowhere on a skateboard and runs into you. 468 00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:30.839 Tanya hurting me. Yeah, basically, that'd be a really weird 469 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:31.119 thing to do. 470 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:34.200 Kanya Harding did that so that she could win. Mike 471 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:35.480 wouldn't even be doing it. 472 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:37.599 I just can't tolerate. 473 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:39.839 He would just want to take you down a peg. 474 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:40.640 Yeah. 475 00:20:40.680 --> 00:20:44.799 Yeah, and he doesn't skateboard, Yeah, just a cool factor. 476 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:47.240 He learns the skateboard so he can do this. It's 477 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:49.119 for the content. We'll tell a story on the podcast. 478 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:51.920 No, that'd be even funnier if I like put a 479 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:53.759 hood over your head and then two of my henchmen 480 00:20:53.920 --> 00:20:56.119 pulled you backstage, and then I came out dressed like 481 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:58.799 you with a wig on or a bear up your wig. 482 00:21:00.440 --> 00:21:04.079 I crossed the finish line, like Bank goes to hug me, like, hey, fuck, 483 00:21:04.200 --> 00:21:04.680 I love you. 484 00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:07.440 It's just that Nathan for you, where he has all 485 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:08.519 the prosthetics and stuff. 486 00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:11.559 Yeah, come here, baby. 487 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:14.519 Fucking watch your back that last mile, Dan, shit, Okay, 488 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:18.400 that's when that's when, that's when I'll be lurking. Oh god, 489 00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:21.759 that really would be funny though, if, like now, if 490 00:21:21.839 --> 00:21:23.839 I did fly in secretly and you look off to 491 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:26.519 the side and you I'm just standing there randomly at 492 00:21:26.559 --> 00:21:28.440 like mile nineteen, Yeah, doing. 493 00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:31.319 That, I agree, that'd be very funny. Yes, I'm calling 494 00:21:31.400 --> 00:21:32.359 your bluff. Do it. 495 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:34.799 That'd be really fucking funny. 496 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:39.920 My girlfriends have also been doing marathons. They've been trying 497 00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:43.240 to convince me to do one. There's a couple half marathons, 498 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:47.000 but I really do not tend to run more than 499 00:21:47.039 --> 00:21:50.119 five miles ever, and I don't know if I want 500 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:52.480 to run more than five miles. That's a long time. 501 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:54.920 I remember the first time I run, I ran like 502 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:57.359 three miles. I was like, good for you, Like go 503 00:21:57.440 --> 00:22:00.599 get a drink, like you're done for the day. But 504 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:04.039 I've gotten more proactive with running with them, and I've 505 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:07.079 found that when I run by myself, after I run 506 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:09.519 about one or two miles, I'm pretty tired and would 507 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:12.839 like to like take a break or chill. But if 508 00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:15.920 I run with friends, I can run three miles and 509 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:19.319 not notice and there's like a social component or at 510 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:22.279 least a mental component to running that's like just about 511 00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:25.200 distracting yourself with other shit going on so that you 512 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:26.680 don't think about how tired you are. 513 00:22:27.079 --> 00:22:28.599 Yeah, I would, that would be when I listened to 514 00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:31.400 my podcast typically throughout the week, like during the training runs, 515 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:34.759 and then on actual race day. There is something about 516 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:37.519 just like there's adrenaline, there's a million other people doing this. 517 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:40.440 It's like it's not your normal route, so there's like 518 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:43.160 novelty to it. So I didn't necessarily know if I 519 00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:44.240 was gonna be able to do it this time, but 520 00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:45.799 like once you get out there race day, it's just 521 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:47.920 like your brain clicks into place. It's like, all right, yeah, 522 00:22:47.920 --> 00:22:48.400 we're doing this. 523 00:22:49.079 --> 00:22:50.960 I couldn't imagine a full marathon. To give you a 524 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:53.599 lot of credit, I've tinkered with the idea of doing 525 00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:56.759 a half, but again, I just think that there's like 526 00:22:56.799 --> 00:22:59.880 a sweet spot for me personally, or like five or 527 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:02.160 six miles and I'm like, I'm so proud of me, 528 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:06.240 and then I go home. I don't get a medal, 529 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:10.319 but I feel like I accomplished a lot running five miles. 530 00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:12.200 But you know what the thing is, though, is that. 531 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:14.240 I think the reason it's worked for me more than 532 00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:18.079 most any other workout is because you register so far 533 00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:20.200 in advance, like I've already paid for a thing a 534 00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:23.119 year from now, and if I am not ready for it, 535 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:25.480 I've just wasted that. You know, I wasted the money. 536 00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:27.920 It's not refundable, you know. It's like, so I have 537 00:23:28.000 --> 00:23:30.400 to hit this schedule. I can't just like because if 538 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:32.559 you don't have like a dedicated thing or a day 539 00:23:32.599 --> 00:23:34.640 on the calendar you got to prepare for at least me, 540 00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:37.240 I'll just be like, ah, you know, today was busy. 541 00:23:37.480 --> 00:23:39.200 I didn't have time to do this or whatever, like 542 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:41.200 to do a reason, Yeah, you have to do it, 543 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:42.720 otherwise you're fucked and you're just not gonna be able 544 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:44.720 to run the marathon. So it like keeps you on track. 545 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:48.200 I do like that. I feel like I could use 546 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:53.400 more reasons to be committed. The best one I have 547 00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:55.920 is that my girlfriends want to run with me, which 548 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:57.799 is such a wonderful thing. And I don't want to 549 00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:01.079 embarrass myself and have these girls that do run marathons, 550 00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:03.240 and I noticed this the last time we ran together, 551 00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:06.559 because they're obviously much faster and better runners. Than me 552 00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:11.640 because they run marathons. Was that they were running slower 553 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.599 than they usually do. I know what their average miles are, 554 00:24:15.799 --> 00:24:19.119 and they were running slower miles and they didn't complain 555 00:24:19.279 --> 00:24:22.440 and they never brought it up because they're very nice girls. 556 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:25.880 But I recognized that I was slowing them down, and 557 00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:29.279 so like, to me, my motivation is is if my 558 00:24:29.319 --> 00:24:31.359 girlfriends are inviting me out to run, I don't want 559 00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:33.720 to be the slow runner. So I have to like 560 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:36.079 keep my shit together so that I can be invited 561 00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:39.559 to the cool runners club. It's all social for me, baby, Like, 562 00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:41.359 I don't want to be in the loser runner club. 563 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:42.839 I gotta I gotta show up. 564 00:24:43.160 --> 00:24:44.920 That sounds fun. I've never done that, Like the like 565 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:46.799 running with people thing, I don't. 566 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:50.640 I It's that's not speaking of like what's for you 567 00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:53.039 enough for me. I can't run with other people really 568 00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:56.359 because I either I'm slowing down for them or I'm 569 00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:59.359 working harder than I want to be to like with them. 570 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:01.400 I mean, once you've enough with someone, I'm sure you 571 00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:04.279 like get a good sense of each other's pace. But like, 572 00:25:04.960 --> 00:25:08.480 I hate even when I round a corner because I'm 573 00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:10.319 running in like a city, most of the time, so 574 00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:12.200 it's all on a grid for the most part until 575 00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:14.200 I get to the water. If I round a corner, 576 00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:16.759 I kind of peek around at first to make sure 577 00:25:16.799 --> 00:25:19.000 no one else is running on that block, because again, 578 00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.880 then I have the conundrum. It's like, do I pass 579 00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:25.279 them and feel like an asshole? Or do I get 580 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:28.480 stuck behind them? Or yeah, do they fucking show me up? 581 00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:36.480 So those are strangers, and that's toxic masculinity. 582 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:38.960 It's not I can be competitive and not be a 583 00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:42.000 toxic masscular. 584 00:25:44.319 --> 00:25:46.720 They're just like so excited to run together. 585 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:49.119 Join I didn't say. 586 00:25:51.079 --> 00:25:54.200 To my limit, and I better not let this other men. 587 00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:58.759 Pass close on a run up behind him and kick 588 00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:00.680 him in the cross from behind him, then keep running, 589 00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:07.079 pick pocket him, sucking as he's bleeding out, take take it, 590 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:08.599 steal his phone for the rest of my run, and 591 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:10.640 just text all of his friends I hate you. I'm 592 00:26:10.640 --> 00:26:19.599 in love with your spouse n f BR three nine 593 00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:25.599 two k H Mary. I texted Dan and Bianca this yesterday, 594 00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:28.480 but I'll have you know and you'll appreciate it that, yes, 595 00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:33.880 Amanda and me cannot watch a sex scene in a 596 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:36.559 show or a movie without her like shouting over it. 597 00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:40.920 I'm anna, I'm gonna fucking fill you up. Like it's 598 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:44.519 like it could be the most emotional scene now and 599 00:26:44.680 --> 00:26:47.119 like in a drama, like we're like and it's just 600 00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:49.359 I know it's coming, so I'm bracing myself. 601 00:26:50.759 --> 00:26:53.839 Good, let me talking. 602 00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:59.319 I have to go because it kind of I mean, 603 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.039 it has the potential to ruin things, but I actually 604 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.359 think it's a beautiful thing that makes you closer, like 605 00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:07.960 uh uh to me and my partner. Sometimes this is 606 00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:09.759 just I don't know how this happened, but probably for 607 00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:14.519 years now, anytime a character and another character kiss, we 608 00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:17.519 elbow each other like schoolgirls and are like, like we 609 00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:20.000 always do it. So if it's steamy, if it's spicy, 610 00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:22.279 if it's just a kiss, it's always an elbow. Just 611 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:25.759 be like shit's heating up and it's become like lore 612 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:28.920 now where it doesn't matter what situation it is. If 613 00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:31.079 people are kissing, we have to like elbow each other. 614 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:33.240 And I think it's funny and like I wonder if 615 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:36.279 like years from now, you guys will be like watching 616 00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:39.240 the equivalent of like the next generation's Titanic and like 617 00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:42.759 two star cross lovers will finally, that's a different movie 618 00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:46.200 will finally be kissing and you will and you guys 619 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:52.640 will just be like, I'm gonna shoot secret joke between 620 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:53.000 you two. 621 00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:55.759 You know what I want. There was a website once 622 00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:57.759 called the Walk of Life Project, and it took that. 623 00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:00.359 You know, they did the Walk, the Walk that the 624 00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.480 dire straight song. Yeah, yeah, it was. They basically said 625 00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:05.680 that every movie could be improved by putting that over 626 00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:07.880 the as he goes into the credits, and so it 627 00:28:07.920 --> 00:28:09.960 would be like two thousand and one Space even like 628 00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:12.200 a Star Child and Watch of Life is playing, and 629 00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:14.559 it was amazing. I want to see a site like 630 00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:17.400 that where it's just taking the mcgoover's sex sounds and 631 00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:20.960 putting them over sex scenes in movies. So just like 632 00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:24.960 famous sex scenes or like the Terminator one where it's 633 00:28:25.039 --> 00:28:27.680 like Kyle Reeves and Sarah Connor and just dub over 634 00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:32.200 mcgoover sex. Just uh, why is that? My I was 635 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:33.920 trying to think of a famous sex scene in a movie. 636 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.160 It's like Terminator, what a famous sex scene? 637 00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:39.599 Hey Tommy, what sex was? So to me, it's the 638 00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:40.720 most famous sex scene. 639 00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:42.480 What does it say about me that I went straight 640 00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.759 to three hundred with Gerard Butler The beginning is very 641 00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:55.920 slow motion scene. Yeah, before he's going off to die. 642 00:28:59.759 --> 00:29:02.839 I'm got just shoot, that's that's my slow. 643 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:03.799 Motion Gerard Butler. 644 00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:04.759 It's really good. 645 00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:07.559 Yeah, what is what is like an emotional sex scene? 646 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:10.359 What can I think of emotional sex scene? How much 647 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:16.119 emotional sex have I seen in movies? Fuck, there's there's 648 00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.319 gotta be some. I don't really see a lot of 649 00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:20.119 romance movies. We talked about that. 650 00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:20.359 Well. 651 00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:22.400 I guess mcgruper had the right idea when they took 652 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:24.359 the top gun scene and fucked with it. 653 00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:31.880 Yeah, what is a non ironic nice emotional sex scene? 654 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.680 The Titanic one where they're in the back, they're. 655 00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:36.680 Just paying each other naked, they don't have sex. 656 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:37.759 To they do? 657 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:42.599 Yeah, on the raft they Yeah, he falls off into 658 00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:44.960 the deep because they were trying to sixty nine on 659 00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:46.960 the wrapt He came. 660 00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:48.559 And like blew his body pack in the water and 661 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:49.119 to die. 662 00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:52.519 And then she was too tired, just too. 663 00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:55.480 Satisfied, time, too tired, get off. 664 00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:57.160 Yeah, sorry, I beat. 665 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.440 That's why Leo's face as he falls into the depths like. 666 00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:06.319 He's got. 667 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:10.880 On the director's cut. He keeps sinking down and you 668 00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:12.200 see his boner come in to frames. 669 00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:30.880 Now I'm curious. Let me search emotional most emotional sex scene. 670 00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.920 Yeah, I don't remember the banging and Titanic. 671 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:35.200 There's a reddit about this. 672 00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:36.799 You don't remember the banging in title? 673 00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:40.279 I remember the painting and I remember the ship crashing. 674 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:42.880 Those are the two things I remember. 675 00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:44.400 Okay. 676 00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:45.799 Uh. 677 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:54.680 The subhead for this reddit post is something blue is 678 00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:57.559 the warmest color? Et Mama tambien. Okay, Now I remember 679 00:30:57.559 --> 00:30:58.880 that portray Lady on Fire. 680 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.519 I'm saying it was Alexandros. 681 00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:05.880 Which one? Aren't there several? 682 00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:06.359 What? 683 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:08.440 The only one the original I. 684 00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:10.240 Ever saw that. I was thinking of wild Things for 685 00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:10.640 a second. 686 00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.799 I was thinking of the nod that was not emotional though. 687 00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:16.319 Those are just really hot people. 688 00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:20.559 Fucking yes, aren't there several sex scenes in cruel intentions? 689 00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:23.240 I mean, yes, I want to Selma Blair and Ryan Philippie. 690 00:31:23.319 --> 00:31:26.480 Right, but there's the same girl kiss which I think 691 00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:28.039 is pretty hot in the pool? 692 00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:32.960 Oh no, that's a there's scream, isn't it? What is 693 00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:36.559 the who's the I think it's who kisses Naomi. 694 00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:39.079 Something Nev Campbell and Annis Richards and wild Things? 695 00:31:39.279 --> 00:31:41.759 Yes? Yes, okay, so yes, we were we already talking 696 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.039 about that. We covered that. I never saw that movie. 697 00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:46.720 I just like when I was eighteen, my version of 698 00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:48.759 fourn was watching movie sex scenes. 699 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.559 Yeah, that's it's like a super famous one for anyone 700 00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:53.519 remotely close to thirties or forties. 701 00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:54.559 Ye, you fix that right. 702 00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:56.240 You've seen this film Wild Things? 703 00:31:56.279 --> 00:32:00.440 No, oh my god, we have to discuss this. Wild 704 00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:04.160 Things is one of the greatest films of like is 705 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:08.640 it nineties of like that era? Maybe it's so fucking good. 706 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:11.400 Nev Campbell kills it in the role. But you have 707 00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:13.759 to be really careful because there's spoiler city because it's 708 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.319 about it's like all full of like twists and like 709 00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:18.640 who done it? And there's like all these neat stuff 710 00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:20.559 to it, so you really shouldn't look it up. But 711 00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:25.160 like it's really well done, especially for how hot everybody is. 712 00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:28.240 Everyone's so smoking hot. You'd be like, was probably not 713 00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:30.480 a good plot, and you're watching it because you get 714 00:32:30.519 --> 00:32:33.200 to see a full pair of like stunning boobies. But 715 00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:36.680 it's also got an incredibly good plot and really good twists, 716 00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:39.599 and everyone's a good actor. It's a kind of movie. 717 00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.000 I think I might have seen the pool scene. Oh 718 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:46.200 my god, that's all I need. I think that was it. 719 00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:50.000 I think I read it continuously gets good. Matt Dylan 720 00:32:50.119 --> 00:32:54.920 is really good in it. Denise Richards kills it like 721 00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.160 it's it's awesome. It is like, yes, it's super horny, 722 00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:01.920 and you should watch the sex scenes. They're really great. 723 00:33:02.279 --> 00:33:06.680 But the film itself is wonderful. It's just like people 724 00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.880 are dying and there's like money floating around and everyone's like, 725 00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:13.000 who's killing these people for? Like what money? And there's 726 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:16.200 like master minds going on, and there's a police Bill 727 00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:18.240 Murrian situation. It's very good. 728 00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:20.799 What Bill Marie it am? I thinking of the right thing? 729 00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:22.759 Bill Murray is like in a neck brace? Right? 730 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:26.599 Oh yeah, I he there's there is a neck brace situation? 731 00:33:26.839 --> 00:33:29.440 Is it Bill Murray? I think I'm not think might be, 732 00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:35.440 but it's it's very well done for how hot everybody is. 733 00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:38.680 Like you'd think it was like a second rate movie 734 00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:41.519 because it's just there's too many good looking people, but. 735 00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:44.359 It's a cinemax like a Cinemax after dark type thing, 736 00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:46.160 like it had that vibe to it, but it had 737 00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:47.359 like it was a real movie. 738 00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:53.160 Yes, so I think that's absolutely worth watching in its entirety. 739 00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:56.599 And then you get the bonus of these really great scenes. 740 00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.519 But I'm telling you the movie itself is solid. 741 00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:01.759 It's a watch people like that. 742 00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:06.440 Yeah you okay, you both have homework? Can you watch 743 00:34:06.440 --> 00:34:07.640 Wild Things please? 744 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:08.239 Well? 745 00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:09.119 See, I'm interested. 746 00:34:09.199 --> 00:34:13.880 Yeah, this is not a huge ask mic, there's. 747 00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:16.599 No sure Yeah, okay, okay. 748 00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:23.440 Do we still not know legitimately romantic, non ironic sex 749 00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:24.920 scene in the history of cinema? 750 00:34:25.039 --> 00:34:30.519 No, I see there's a few Broke Back Mountain, Lose 751 00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:31.400 the warmest color? 752 00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:37.079 Uh, I would not recommend blues the warmest colors? 753 00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:40.400 No, isn't that two kids like high schoolers? 754 00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:44.840 Yeah? And these scenes are like ten minutes long. Like 755 00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:47.079 I When they say these things, I think they mean 756 00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:50.679 things like Romeo and Juliet, where there's like people like 757 00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:54.920 making out in a pool and it's hot like blues. 758 00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:57.480 The warmest color is as close as you absolutely can 759 00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:00.039 get to it just being like porn with like a 760 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:01.119 slight plot. 761 00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:05.400 Oh well, yeah, I was saying, like I'm famous ones. 762 00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.039 Wait, Top Gun Maverick was there one with the Tom 763 00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:11.360 Cruise and Jennifer Connelly, didn't they like, Yeah, I remember 764 00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:12.000 that lady. 765 00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:13.599 The first time the song came on. 766 00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:20.320 Oh maybe I thought I remember there being a yeah, okay, oh. 767 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:24.320 I was, uh, Witches of east Wick. Have you guys 768 00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:25.760 seen that? It's a classic. 769 00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.000 It's older Susan Sarandon, right, it. 770 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:34.800 Was, yes, yeah, and share hello, and it's really really good. 771 00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:37.159 But I couldn't remember exactly what it was called. And 772 00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:41.000 I was just like, what's it called, like Witches of 773 00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:45.559 like Breastwick or whatever. And it turns out that there 774 00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:49.719 is a Witches of Breastwick because they made a porno 775 00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:52.960 nice based on Witches of east Wick and they called 776 00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:54.519 it Witches of Breastwick. 777 00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:57.599 Boy, that sounds like a real first draft, like we'll 778 00:35:57.599 --> 00:35:59.599 call it, which was a Breastwick, or we'll call it 779 00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:01.480 until we come up with real title. It's like that, 780 00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:03.559 which is they just. 781 00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:04.639 Did it made it all the way into the final. 782 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.719 Jack Nicholson is in Witches of Eastwick. Yes, it's great. 783 00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:13.079 It's three witches who are all like, they don't actually 784 00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.880 know they're witches, and they're sick of men, but they 785 00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.320 love men and they're drinking and they're all concocting who 786 00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:23.239 they think is the perfect man. And then it's Jack 787 00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:26.159 Nicholson and he comes into town and he starts seducing 788 00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:30.880 them all and he starts like getting with all three 789 00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:31.239 of them? 790 00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:34.719 Is Jack Nicholson like an is he like a desirable man? 791 00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.559 So I think what's interesting about this film and Jack 792 00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.320 Nicholson in general, is like Jack Nicholson can play like 793 00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.920 an absolute psychopath and he can also play a very 794 00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:46.679 charming and charismatic person. And this role contained both of them. 795 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:50.000 When they're describing in the Witches of Eastwick, when they're like, 796 00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:52.760 should he be handsome? And the girls are like, he 797 00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:56.320 should be, but not too handsome. It should be like, 798 00:36:56.719 --> 00:37:00.920 in a funny way, chrisma with them, And I mean 799 00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:04.440 Jack Nicholson has that in droves, like he's so charismatic 800 00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:06.079 you can't take your eyes off of him, and the 801 00:37:06.119 --> 00:37:10.079 way he portrays this character, who I believe like, although 802 00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:15.199 it's probably up for debate, very like essentially like demonic character. 803 00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:18.360 The more Jack Nicholson plays him, the more you're like, oh, 804 00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:21.400 this guy's like a fucking psychopath. But you also still 805 00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:23.320 can't take your eyes off of him, because he's really 806 00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:25.719 charismatic and enjoyable to look at. But he's just a 807 00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:26.480 freak of nature. 808 00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:30.079 He just never plays the like I'm just a everyman, 809 00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.239 good old boy like he is always like some sort 810 00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:35.679 of like shining or Cuhoo's nest, like, you know, he's 811 00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:37.679 still kind of a wild man like because he's so 812 00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:39.639 good at that. I can't picture him just being like 813 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:40.679 an everyman character. 814 00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.199 He's got He's got the Easy Rider, five easy pieces 815 00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.039 Chinatown era, I think Chinatown when I have been before those. 816 00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:48.119 Have you guys seen an easy Rider? 817 00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:51.119 I have to really good movie, all those movies. 818 00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:54.079 Just looking through these sex scenes on this time out list. 819 00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:58.480 Yeah, yeah, Mike was so quiet recently, and I think 820 00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:03.039 he's been looking at best sex scenes of all time porn. 821 00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:04.679 Oh I saw that, but I don't remember. 822 00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.440 Oh wait, ship, that isn't that? This is the bad one? 823 00:38:08.519 --> 00:38:11.079 This is the last tango in Paris? Why is that on? 824 00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:14.119 This isn't that when she came out saying that she 825 00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:15.199 was not comfortable during that. 826 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:18.519 Whole Oh I heard about that. Yeah, Brandon fight Club. 827 00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:23.480 Oh the weird like uh Matrix cam Helena Bonham Carter 828 00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:26.039 or sex that's just like a shot, that's just like 829 00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:29.599 a quick like like matrix rotator around her thing. 830 00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:33.920 Monsters ball with Thornton, I know the sex scene similar thing. 831 00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:39.400 Well, Dan can describe this matrix shot. 832 00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:43.679 A lot. 833 00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:46.519 You have that like embedded in your brain. 834 00:38:46.519 --> 00:38:48.199 And that's not even a horny thing for me. That's 835 00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:50.159 just I saw Fight Club a lot as a teenager. 836 00:38:50.159 --> 00:38:51.400 I can tell you, like any scene in that. 837 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:55.360 Comes the matrix shot. 838 00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:59.400 Yeah, Brown, Yeah, totally. Man, I haven't seen any of 839 00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:02.400 these fucking movies. Oh, Team America that had a good one. 840 00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:05.599 Yeah, that one's a joke. That's not Sincere. 841 00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:06.440 It's on this list. 842 00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:08.960 It's on this list, then it's a bad list. It 843 00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:09.960 should be Sincere. 844 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:12.719 This is best sex scenes of all time I'm looking at. 845 00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:17.159 Yeah, so that's like a joke. Okay, Like good ones 846 00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:18.599 are like Pretty Woman. 847 00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:20.039 I haven't seen that. 848 00:39:20.559 --> 00:39:25.639 Yeah, you guys are well they bang in it. 849 00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:26.559 Yeah, you guys. 850 00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:29.440 The only time you guys can each think of sex 851 00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:32.480 scenes is when the matrix camera has like really shot 852 00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:35.960 up their pussy or like some kind of action sequence 853 00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:37.400 has occurred right after it. 854 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:39.000 What I thought about but didn't say when I was 855 00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:40.719 trying to think of movie sex scenes. There's the part 856 00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:43.400 where uh Nicholas Cage and his girlfriend on the roof 857 00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.519 when he before he gets called to Alcatraz and they're 858 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:46.800 about to do it on the roof and he gets 859 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:48.400 a call from the FBI being like we needed to 860 00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:51.280 go to Alcatraz, and he's like, thresting, this is not happening, 861 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:58.440 Like I remember that, Yeah, I remember romantic sex there 862 00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:01.400 the ones that matter? Yeah, or like three minutes of 863 00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:03.480 screen times is cage thrusting into her. 864 00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:06.360 Well, here's the thing, Like these are They're probably made 865 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.760 for different people. When you're googling something like best romantic 866 00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:12.239 sex scenes from the nineties or whatever, these are probably 867 00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.079 going to be more targeted towards like my demographics. I 868 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:18.400 understand why you probably haven't watched them. But the great 869 00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:22.679 equalizer is Wild Things because it's genuinely good and it 870 00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:26.320 has really hot sex scenes. It's it's the perfect blend 871 00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:29.199 of both of our worlds. It's got something for everyone. 872 00:40:29.239 --> 00:40:30.880 I swear to God, I cannot not like. 873 00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:33.199 I believe it. I believe it from the you know, 874 00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:35.679 three minutes I've seen of that movie. I could see it. 875 00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:38.400 I've seen that same three minutes many times. 876 00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:40.239 The best part that's always on TV. When I was 877 00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:41.719 a kid trying to turn it on. 878 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.159 You know, I was rewinding it and playing it. 879 00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.519 Yeah, oh it's this many minutes in Okay, it's hearing 880 00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:48.760 at one o'clock on HBO. Guess I'm watching that scrambled 881 00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:51.280 late at night. I'll tune in right, I'll cut away 882 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.400 from Conan right now, and there we go, and then 883 00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:55.480 I'll be done and out of breath and back to Conan, 884 00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:56.159 Back to Conan. 885 00:40:56.239 --> 00:41:00.280 Okay, just reading these lists of like best secon scenes 886 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.960 of all time, do you ever get like overwhelmed by 887 00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:08.239 how many fucking movies have been made? Like what percentage? 888 00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:10.800 In a good way, but like what percentage of movies 889 00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:13.880 do you think you've seen? I'm curious I have ever 890 00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.639 been made and published? Like you're like released. 891 00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:18.880 We'll say it again, how many what. 892 00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:22.480 Percentage of like the movies ever made do you think 893 00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:23.480 you've personally seen? 894 00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:27.320 Well, I've seen one three hundred and nineteen movies according 895 00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.960 to my letterbox. That's so much. I'm not saying, oh, 896 00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:32.719 there's a lot more than that, for sure, Yeah. 897 00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:35.119 But I'm saying, what, I wonder how you even find 898 00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.039 that step? But just watching just reading through this list 899 00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:39.480 of like best sex scenes, Like god, there are so 900 00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:41.599 many movies I have not seen and probably never will. 901 00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:43.679 But there's also you have to like, are we saying, 902 00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:47.840 like theatrically released, because like, you know, it's like how 903 00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:49.599 many games came out this year if you count every 904 00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:51.880 Steam in the every you know, two dollars thing on 905 00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:53.400 Steam or whatever, everything. 906 00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:55.559 I ever made. But like still I think if you 907 00:41:55.599 --> 00:41:59.000 go to like the Criterion Collection or the Criterion Channel, 908 00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:03.079 I was like, oh my god, I've seen like they're 909 00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:06.400 like film buffs are very impressive to me because I've 910 00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:08.440 I have not seen a high percentage movie. I've seen 911 00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.199 a lot of movies in my life, but not you know, 912 00:42:11.400 --> 00:42:13.400 not nearly as much as I could have if I 913 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:14.239 focus more on it. 914 00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:18.280 Well, according to a Reddit thread, which is I don't 915 00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:21.480 know if that's better or worse than Google AI, as 916 00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.519 of twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen, Hollywood is releasing around 917 00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:25.599 seven hundred films a. 918 00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:29.639 Year for how long though, But yeah, that's. 919 00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:33.639 But like thirties. I don't know when film started, but. 920 00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.079 A lot of the movies on this list probably I 921 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:41.679 wonder what, like what they define as Hollywood because yeah, 922 00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:43.800 to your point, there's a lot of I think acute. 923 00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.480 Yeah, like you don't count like direct the DVD like 924 00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:46.559 Aladdin tow stuff. 925 00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:49.400 I'm counting that there's like a lot of like indie 926 00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.800 gems that people like Chris Plant always tells me about. 927 00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.199 I'm like, Chris, I'm not going to watch this, but but. 928 00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:58.639 Nowadays it's like the streaming stuff too, is like oh okay. 929 00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:00.679 Like Palm Springs is definitely a your last movie, even 930 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:03.360 though I went straight to Hulu during the pandemic. Yeah, yeah, 931 00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:05.119 it's muddy. I guess we'll never know. 932 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:08.039 One day we'll know. I guess we'll never know. 933 00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:12.639 I've seen thirteen hundred and nineteen. I'm so picky with 934 00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.719 my fives. I'm very proud of it. I saw cool movie. 935 00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:19.599 Can I uh, probably less than maybe around twenty I 936 00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:23.440 would say. I want to give a suggestion here. Sorcerer. 937 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:24.320 Have you heard of this movie? 938 00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:25.840 Yes? Why? Why is that? 939 00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:28.559 I actually heard about it? Mary? At your get together 940 00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:31.920 in Portland a good friend of yours that was there. 941 00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:35.840 Chris was telling us about his favorite movie and he 942 00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.440 said it was Sorcerer and it's a tangerin dream does 943 00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:41.039 the soundtrack that did the GGA five soundtrack that had heat, 944 00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:44.440 They did a thief of James Cohn, so awesome, awesome soundtrack. 945 00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:48.199 But it stars Roy Scheider, the chief from Jaws and 946 00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:50.719 it's basically it's almost like dest stranding. It's like it 947 00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:52.559 definitely seems like something Kajima would have seen. 948 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:54.480 It's like nineteen seventy seven. 949 00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:57.000 Yeah, yeah, it's like it's such a cool concept bank 950 00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:58.639 and I had never seen anything like this. It's like 951 00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:01.400 four dudes from different spots in the world all and 952 00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.239 I'm not going to spoil anything. They all just gonna 953 00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:05.519 get into shit where they need to like skip town. 954 00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:07.719 So like one of the guys was like a terrorist, 955 00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:09.599 one of the guys was in the mob and they'd 956 00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:11.280 gotten some shit. One of the guys got into a 957 00:44:11.559 --> 00:44:13.840 shaded business thing, need to skip Europe and stuff. They 958 00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.719 all wind up in the same like South American village 959 00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:18.400 and they're all just kind of like trying to lay 960 00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:20.159 low off the grid and just going to the shitty 961 00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:23.400 bar and stay low. And all of a sudden there's 962 00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:26.440 a problem at like an oil facility or whatever, and 963 00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:32.679 they need these palettes of extremely volatile dynamite delivered two 964 00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:33.400 hundred miles. 965 00:44:33.480 --> 00:44:35.000 Oh, this is the truck on the bridge. 966 00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:37.599 Yes, And it's like a suicide mission where it's like, okay, 967 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:40.039 we need good drivers too, and so like Roy Schider 968 00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:42.159 plays like a former mob driver, and he has to 969 00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:45.039 drive this like dynamite that's been leaking and will blow 970 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:47.079 the fuck up if there's like you hit a rock 971 00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:49.000 and he has to drive it two hundred miles. So 972 00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:51.280 it's just a lot of like four dudes trying not 973 00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:54.920 to kill each other and kill themselves like very precariously 974 00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:59.360 transporting dynamite across South America. It is. It is so 975 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.639 tense and cool, and the soundtracks awesome. I fucking loved it. 976 00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:05.920 Yeah, I've I think I've seen that truck scene come 977 00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:09.320 up on like most tense movie scenes ever, oh many times. 978 00:45:09.320 --> 00:45:12.360 That's why I recognized the name. I want to watch 979 00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:12.960 this sounds cool. 980 00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:14.840 I like huge recommendation for it. 981 00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:18.119 Have you seen Jaws? There's like a bit. Yeah, there's 982 00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:23.199 a shark and it's it sneaks onto the beach and 983 00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:30.920 dances some the middle of the day. Yeah, oh wow, Yeah, 984 00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:31.920 I want to Sorcerer. 985 00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:35.760 Okay, I've given forty two five stars, so out of 986 00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:40.280 my thirteen hundred plus reviews, I've given thirty six five. 987 00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:43.280 Staries and you gave a five star to Sorcerer poor. 988 00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:43.480 And a half. 989 00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:46.079 What's your most recent five How. 990 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:48.320 Dare you recommend something you didn't give five stars too. 991 00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:49.920 Yeah, no, it's good. 992 00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:53.880 Most recently released, most recent that you rated that you saw. 993 00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:56.440 Oh is there? 994 00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:58.599 It doesn't show chronologically. 995 00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:01.360 Sort by win rated, yes, newest first when no, uh oh, 996 00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:03.880 I guess I went back and uh okay. The last 997 00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:08.000 three were once I rewatched recently, The Wrestler, Alien and Annihilation. 998 00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:11.079 Those three I rewatched in the last year, and it's like, yeah, 999 00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:14.599 those are five star movies. I like, yeah, And before 1000 00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:17.679 that was Rambo, Last Blood and Grimlins two. 1001 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:18.119 So. 1002 00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:24.800 A yes, Grimlins two. 1003 00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:27.800 Yeah, look, Grimlins two is a five star movie. 1004 00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:30.360 I've seen it. 1005 00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:34.440 The sex scene, actually, the last scene in the movie 1006 00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.639 is the lady Grimlin kissing on the dude and then 1007 00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:39.880 like looks at the camera with like lips to cons 1008 00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:41.599 all fucked up looking, and then like I think it 1009 00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:43.880 might heart fade into the credits or something like that. 1010 00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:46.519 So it's implied that the Gremlin lady had sex with 1011 00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:49.400 that Henchman guy. Five stars. 1012 00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:55.360 Cool. Cool, you guys want to talk about video games? Oh? 1013 00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:58.119 Sure, yeah, Mike and Mary. I joined First Leave to 1014 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.559 enjoy some fantastic personal line just for me, but now 1015 00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:04.199 it's become my secret weapon for the holiday season, from 1016 00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.159 hosting to attending parties, I always have great wines on 1017 00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:08.960 hand to share with friends and family. 1018 00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:11.920 Plus, we're coming up on Thanksgiving, We're coming up on 1019 00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:14.000 the holiday season in general, so it's a good time 1020 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:17.199 to get some Saint Audette Nui Pino noir from France. 1021 00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:19.760 Pino noir is always a great Thanksgiving wine. I myself 1022 00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:23.519 love Boujelai. There's Cabernet Salvignon from Chile. 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Try first 1032 00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:52.559 leaf dot com slash Fire. 1033 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.800 Escape here like there's a lot of background noise. 1034 00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:58.679 That was a part Oh okay, put that was not 1035 00:47:58.760 --> 00:47:59.519 That was a crash. 1036 00:47:59.599 --> 00:48:01.599 It looks it sounded like a dog had run into 1037 00:48:01.639 --> 00:48:02.119 a box. 1038 00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:04.639 No, I see the waveform on that part that was 1039 00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:06.760 I trust me, it was a part. I felt it. 1040 00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:08.880 I mean, I almost want to replay it because I 1041 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:12.440 have to just say, it's incredible to me that your 1042 00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:17.960 farts can sound like an animal rustling in Christmas packages 1043 00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:18.760 under a tree. 1044 00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:20.320 Or calling through a china shop. 1045 00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:23.000 I think the problem is we talked about Costco earlier. 1046 00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:26.360 I bought a giant bag of candy as backup candy 1047 00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:28.119 bag because I want to be the full sized candy 1048 00:48:28.119 --> 00:48:31.159 bar house. So I bought thirty full sized candy bars 1049 00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:32.719 and then if there are more, I've got the backup. 1050 00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:35.719 But I have eaten almost all of this bag of 1051 00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:38.239 the backup candy in the last it's like, ooh, Halloween's 1052 00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:40.320 coming up. I'll throw out the bag after Halloween. But 1053 00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:43.760 after every fucking meal, three meals a day, I'm taking 1054 00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:46.719 so many fucking Skittles and Twizzlers and Nerds and arrowheads 1055 00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:49.000 and Life Savers gummies, and I'm just eating like a 1056 00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:51.000 thousand calories of candy a day. So that's what's going 1057 00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:51.599 on with the part. 1058 00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:54.239 After three each meal, like after breakfast. 1059 00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:57.920 Yeah, it's like a lot of skittles after. 1060 00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:00.480 Break it's your breakfast, just skittles. 1061 00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:03.599 No, I'll do I'll do the healthy thing. You know, 1062 00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:06.920 it's cool. I had some oatmeal or avocado toast and 1063 00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:07.679 then skittletown. 1064 00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:10.360 If you think you smelled your fart, do you think 1065 00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:12.119 you could taste the rainbow smell? 1066 00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:14.599 No, it just smelled like a fart. It's still lingering 1067 00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:20.519 in here, so so you can tell ye it is not. No, 1068 00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:23.480 it's Mary farts in here right now. 1069 00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:26.559 Mary, when you got up to when we got up 1070 00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:28.880 to take the break, right before damn left, I was like, 1071 00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.920 wait a minute, William Freakin directed Sorcerer, why not just 1072 00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:34.000 lead off with that? That would have had me right away? 1073 00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:39.559 Forgot that part some of the best ones ever. But anyway, Mary, 1074 00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:43.679 you've played Zelda now, the Legend of Zelda Echoes of Wisdom. 1075 00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:47.719 Yes, I finally uh got my hands on it. I've 1076 00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:50.800 been delayed, but we are in Gody season, so I've 1077 00:49:50.800 --> 00:49:52.599 really tried to kick it up and make sure that 1078 00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:56.760 I am up to date with the latest that everybody 1079 00:49:56.800 --> 00:49:59.639 else is playing. And I I don't know how far 1080 00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:02.559 I maybe you guys can help me, but I mean 1081 00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:07.039 I have to be like eight or nine hours into 1082 00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:07.760 it now. 1083 00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:10.159 I mean, I full on dungeons have you done? 1084 00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:12.760 I don't know. I think it's a little confusing to 1085 00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:14.719 know what a dungeon is. Is it when you're in 1086 00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:15.480 the cloud. 1087 00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:17.199 World if you got to, well, you do the cloud 1088 00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:18.599 thing to like get into it. But like if there 1089 00:50:18.679 --> 00:50:20.519 was a big key in it in a boss fight. 1090 00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:23.639 I think I've done two big keys, okay. 1091 00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:25.360 Has the map kind of opened up after that? Like 1092 00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:27.000 you did the day with the like, oh, this aura 1093 00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:29.639 is playing their flutes and then you died the desert stuff. 1094 00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:32.400 I've done the desert stuff and I've done the water stuff. 1095 00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:34.920 Okay. I think it's right after those two that I 1096 00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.440 started liking it. Like I liked it at the beginning, 1097 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:39.719 I started really liking it after those two because those 1098 00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:42.159 two in particular are really talky and stuff. There's just 1099 00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:45.519 a lot of like they're so talky. Yeah, I was surprised. 1100 00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:46.800 It's a lot for a Zelda game. 1101 00:50:47.159 --> 00:50:51.119 I appreciate you saying that to me because I've like 1102 00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:54.599 skimmed a couple of reviews and I've played it and 1103 00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.679 so far, although I would not say I dislike it, 1104 00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:00.559 it's still Zelda. I mean it's very fun and it's interesting. 1105 00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:02.920 I would say it's one of the weaker Zeldas that 1106 00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:06.039 I've ever played for a couple of reasons. So far 1107 00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:08.159 so far, right, and I have more time to go 1108 00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:10.400 with it. But here's like a couple of my issues. 1109 00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:14.760 One very talky. I just want to play, dude, like, 1110 00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:17.760 leave me alone. I don't understand why everybody wants to 1111 00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:23.079 tell me their life fucking story. Two, I felt a 1112 00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:27.440 couple times that I was punished for investigating areas early. 1113 00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:31.199 And I'll give you an example. In this game, I 1114 00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:34.480 find it fairly linear, despite the fact that it is 1115 00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:38.079 an open map, right, but they've closed a lot of 1116 00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:48.440 spaces off because of the purple cloud shards. 1117 00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:48.639 Or something rifts yeah maybe, yeah. 1118 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:54.320 The yasma whatever, you know, and it makes it pretty 1119 00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:59.039 limited where you can investigate. And in the water area, 1120 00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:03.119 I started just scoping around in the water because I 1121 00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:06.480 thought it would be fun. And I found this cave 1122 00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:08.280 and I was like, that's so cool. I found an 1123 00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.800 underwater cave and I went through this system and I 1124 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:15.280 got a little uh treasure coat, you know box, and 1125 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:18.440 it gave me fifty rupees And it wasn't that exac 1126 00:52:18.440 --> 00:52:20.480 I didn't getn item or anything. But I was like, oh, well, 1127 00:52:20.559 --> 00:52:22.679 I got some money and I investigated this little cave 1128 00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:25.320 and then I started doing the main story. And then 1129 00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:28.119 later on in the main story, they were like, my 1130 00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:30.440 son's stuck in a cave, and it took me to 1131 00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:34.320 the same cave system I had already discovered and investigated 1132 00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:36.199 and enjoyed, but now there was a kid in it, 1133 00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:39.039 and I had to redo the exact same cave system 1134 00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:42.480 it already had. My my treasure was already opened because 1135 00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.280 I had already discovered this space it, enjoyed it, and 1136 00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.320 I just had to They literally made me redo the 1137 00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:50.320 exact same puzzles so that I could free the child 1138 00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:52.119 who was stuck in the cave systems. And I thought 1139 00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:55.840 to myself, you know, if you're gonna punish me, I 1140 00:52:55.840 --> 00:52:57.519 don't know if it's a punishment, but like, if you're 1141 00:52:57.519 --> 00:52:59.679 just gonna make me redo this because I didn't do 1142 00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:02.239 it in order that the game wanted me to do it, 1143 00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:03.760 why did you let me do it? 1144 00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:05.199 This is really annoying. 1145 00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:08.039 Yeah, don't let me do it and have. 1146 00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:10.880 Something block it off until a story event happens. 1147 00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:13.039 Or something, or if like in Tears the Kingdom I 1148 00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:15.360 feel like if it was a open world Zelda, you 1149 00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:18.559 would have come across that kid first, and then you 1150 00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:20.440 you what, he would have been like, oh, thanks, you 1151 00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:21.920 helped me out, and then he would go back to 1152 00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.960 the village and then it would adapt. So she's like, hey, 1153 00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:27.239 I heard you got my son out, Thank you or whatever. 1154 00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:30.320 One hundred percent thank you. That's exactly what I was 1155 00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:33.000 hoping for. It's like, if I had discovered it out 1156 00:53:33.000 --> 00:53:35.880 of order, an open world game should have accounted for 1157 00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:39.239 that and then told the person my son told me, 1158 00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:41.400 you got me out, you got him out, so we 1159 00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:43.519 can skip this part of the story. Like there was 1160 00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:47.000 just something about it that was like, it's open world, 1161 00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:49.079 but if you do that cave system before we want 1162 00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:50.360 you to do it, we're gonna make you fucking do 1163 00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:51.880 it again because we're not ready for you to do 1164 00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:53.159 it yet. And it's just like, well, then it's not 1165 00:53:53.239 --> 00:53:53.880 open world. 1166 00:53:54.360 --> 00:53:56.519 Yeah, that's I totally get what you're saying. Like, if 1167 00:53:56.519 --> 00:53:58.199 a game is open world like that, that was part 1168 00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:00.440 of my big argument about Red Dead two is like 1169 00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:02.480 big open world Rockstar game, but then like, oh, I 1170 00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:04.159 veered from the path for two seconds and the like 1171 00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:06.679 failed my mission it's like, well, don't fucking sell me 1172 00:54:06.719 --> 00:54:07.920 on this big world. 1173 00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:10.199 And so seldom in Red Dead two, I won't have 1174 00:54:10.280 --> 00:54:14.159 happen enough to me. I've got another bonu pick with 1175 00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:17.599 you tonight, so I'm just getting warmed up. I wonder 1176 00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:21.760 I like, uh, echoes wisdom a plot, but there are 1177 00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:26.320 I talked about this last episode. It does feel like 1178 00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:30.159 one of the messier Zelda's I've played, even considering like 1179 00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:32.519 Breath of the Wild and Tiers of Kingdom's frame rate issues. 1180 00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:38.280 This like, I actually, so, I think I've done three 1181 00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:41.639 three more dungeons since last we spokes a five total, 1182 00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:45.119 so you're near the end. I've got another like three, 1183 00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:47.840 I think three dungeons. I think there's six after you 1184 00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:52.039 do the two initial ones. Six after wow, yeah, maybe 1185 00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:57.039 three or four after two? Like look at yeah, it 1186 00:54:57.079 --> 00:54:58.960 looks like there's room for three more. Maybe I've only 1187 00:54:58.960 --> 00:54:59.360 done two. 1188 00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:02.639 There's like six items and I only have like one 1189 00:55:02.679 --> 00:55:05.039 of them. So there's so many thingies I still need 1190 00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:05.559 to get from. 1191 00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:07.480 There's some weird things that you get only if you 1192 00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:11.119 do this particular thing and you'll occasionally use It's. Yeah, 1193 00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:13.159 it's messy in a few different ways. Like you know, 1194 00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:16.079 there's there's frame rate, you brought that up. There's things 1195 00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:18.239 where it's like, yeah, it's open, but because you can 1196 00:55:18.239 --> 00:55:20.280 break stuff, you can also get to step out of order. 1197 00:55:20.599 --> 00:55:23.119 Like from what I'm hearing here, I think we're all 1198 00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:25.079 roughly on the same page of this game. Where's I 1199 00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:28.039 think we appreciate what it's doing. We generally like it, 1200 00:55:28.079 --> 00:55:29.840 but like there are things that annoy us about it 1201 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:31.679 to the point where it's like, I do wonder if 1202 00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:33.079 this will place on the top ten for us? 1203 00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:36.400 You know, yeah, I think it's it's it's I have 1204 00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:39.079 issues with it, you know, and I am enjoying it, 1205 00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:41.559 and I do want to say, like what I'm worried 1206 00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:43.760 is that we're holding it to this really high caliber. 1207 00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:47.320 Because it's Zelda, I just expect it to be so 1208 00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:51.480 fucking perfect. I was shocked that in the first boss fight, 1209 00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.079 I was like, am I just supposed to throw tables 1210 00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:57.000 at it? And like, I think a lot of people 1211 00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:59.559 probably had this like weird reaction of like what am 1212 00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.800 I supposed to do in this boss fight? But usually 1213 00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:06.440 in Zelda's they're just so clean about guiding you and 1214 00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:10.880 coddling you of what you should be focused on. During 1215 00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.239 every boss fight, even if it is very open and 1216 00:56:13.280 --> 00:56:15.519 you can do it however the fuck you want. In 1217 00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:18.119 Tears of the Kingdom, they were always like, so we're 1218 00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:22.039 teaching you this very specific skill. The entire dungeon and 1219 00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:24.199 the boss fight will also use this skill. 1220 00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:24.760 It's all. 1221 00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:30.639 Yeah, But in the first boss in this game, you're 1222 00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:33.519 just stuck with this boss and you can only make 1223 00:56:33.599 --> 00:56:36.599 like three things, and so I just kept throwing tables 1224 00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:37.960 at it until it died. 1225 00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:38.559 Cool. 1226 00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:40.400 Oh yeah, the first one was very much just you 1227 00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:43.599 gotta warp transform into Link and hit his weak spot like. 1228 00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:45.000 That was why I could not do that. I threw 1229 00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:46.840 tables at that bitch for like ten minutes. 1230 00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:48.719 Styles. 1231 00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:53.039 That's one thing like this, even if you're probably very right, 1232 00:56:53.159 --> 00:56:55.559 Like if it wasn't a Zelda game, I I wonder 1233 00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:59.360 if I even would have played it, because I like 1234 00:56:59.400 --> 00:57:01.800 this game a lot of its ideas more than I 1235 00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:04.440 like the execution. The so many of the echoes, like 1236 00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:08.079 the ones that attack things, their pathing is just awful 1237 00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:10.599 and they miss. And I realized that there are things 1238 00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:12.559 that are going to be better at The sharks are 1239 00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:14.119 gonna be One of the better things. Is someone in 1240 00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:17.400 water This far in the some of the birds are 1241 00:57:17.440 --> 00:57:20.519 just better at taking out other birds. But like, this 1242 00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:22.599 game does feel like a collection of really cool ideas 1243 00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:24.719 that it's a bit rough around the edges, and I'm 1244 00:57:24.719 --> 00:57:26.760 still really enjoying. I think it's in my personal top 1245 00:57:26.800 --> 00:57:30.519 ten of the year, but probably it's very low. It's 1246 00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:33.960 just I don't know. I also it just like even 1247 00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:36.559 I tried doing what you and Grubb said, Dan and 1248 00:57:36.599 --> 00:57:39.639 opening the grid to pick an item, even then, I 1249 00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:42.480 was like, I still preferred the just use my go 1250 00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:44.719 back to the on the dpad for the most recent 1251 00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:46.599 ones because more often than I was using a recent one. 1252 00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:50.239 But like water always there. Yeah, and I don't. 1253 00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:51.599 Know what the solve would be for that. Maybe a 1254 00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:54.159 series of rings that you get like Dishonored two style, 1255 00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:56.239 like a weapon that you go through. 1256 00:57:56.440 --> 00:57:58.800 Yeah, there's just so many and there's a lot. 1257 00:57:58.960 --> 00:58:02.079 Oh and it gets worse. I bet it does, because I'm. 1258 00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:03.599 Very early and I'm like, I have so much shit. 1259 00:58:03.639 --> 00:58:07.079 I don't understand why they let you duplicate so many items. 1260 00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:09.920 I can see the creativity, but it's also like you're 1261 00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:11.239 confusing me, like. 1262 00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:14.039 Two kinds of rocks and then yeah, just so. 1263 00:58:14.079 --> 00:58:18.840 Many types of enemies, and now they've added like enemies 1264 00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:22.159 with uh with metal and stuff and statues, and it's 1265 00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:25.039 like if these are for puzzles and I'm never gonna 1266 00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:28.280 need them again, You're just adding these to my very 1267 00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:33.079 full repertoire, and I'm like a little overwhelmed with choice. 1268 00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:35.440 It's like the resident Evil thing where it's like you 1269 00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:37.119 use a key. I love it when it's like, hey, 1270 00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:38.079 you don't need this any more? Do you want to 1271 00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:39.280 throw it away? It's like, oh, thanks for telling me 1272 00:58:39.280 --> 00:58:39.559 that game. 1273 00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:44.639 There's I also in a bigger sense, and this might 1274 00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:47.000 be unfair, and tell me if it is the fact 1275 00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:50.719 that you have this ability to become the character that 1276 00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:52.760 we were so excited that for once we were like 1277 00:58:52.800 --> 00:58:56.159 getting away from and you use it to do damage. 1278 00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:57.920 It's like, why wouldn't I warp into link if I'm 1279 00:58:57.920 --> 00:58:59.800 getting frustrated because these birds won't be hitten and like 1280 00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:01.719 the Eater. By the time you get to like the 1281 00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:03.480 fourth dungeon, the meter is pretty generous. 1282 00:59:03.880 --> 00:59:06.480 Yeah, Like I was like, hop out kind It's like 1283 00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:09.159 it Zelda's game, but you can be like if you 1284 00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:10.760 want to do real damage. 1285 00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:13.119 Want to actually do damage, and like, yeah, I'm I'm 1286 00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:16.280 I'm definitely meeting the game halfway to do the creative stuff, 1287 00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:18.119 and I appreciate for what it's doing, but like, this 1288 00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:21.000 feels like a not a first draft. That's very unfair, 1289 00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:23.039 Like I don't know this, this feels like it needed 1290 00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:24.440 a few more edit pass. 1291 00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:28.119 I agree with you. It feels like a hack week concept. 1292 00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:30.599 And then someone was like, I'm making a real game and. 1293 00:59:30.840 --> 00:59:33.079 Say that it but it's still I still think this 1294 00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:35.119 is a good game. It's just this is It's like 1295 00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:37.719 it gets really frustrating sometimes. But yeah, I really like 1296 00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:39.760 when I saw that you could transform into link with 1297 00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:42.760 like the robe, I was like, or the sword. Sorry, 1298 00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:44.800 I was like I didn't want like I was. 1299 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:47.360 It was go all the way in if you commit 1300 00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:49.239 to the bit and if you're gonna do it. Yeah, 1301 00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.079 It's funny the the weight that a series name will 1302 00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:54.039 will carry into a new game, Like you know, we're 1303 00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:56.159 all talking about like your expectations of Zelda going in. 1304 00:59:56.199 --> 00:59:58.239 It's got the name on it. And I remember Spirit 1305 00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:01.480 Tracks came out for the s and we gave it 1306 01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:03.559 an eight a Game Informer, and I remember at the 1307 01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:05.079 Game of the Year meetings that year when we're trying 1308 01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:07.400 to whittle our list down. Spear tracks came up and 1309 01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:09.079 like all of us were shitting on it. We're all 1310 01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:10.679 we're all just sitting in the meeting and just being like, 1311 01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:12.880 oh man, it's like there's no real overworld. You're just 1312 01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:14.880 in these fucking train tracks. It sucks. It sucks. And 1313 01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:17.000 I think Andy McNamara or someone was like, well, we 1314 01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:19.039 gave it an eight. It sounds like everyone hates it, 1315 01:00:19.199 --> 01:00:21.920 and Matt Helgeson was like, yeah, but at Zelda, so 1316 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:23.679 I think it was kind of it was a gentleman's eight. 1317 01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:26.920 It was Zelda. Yeah. 1318 01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:28.719 And to be clear, like when Breath of the Wild 1319 01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:31.360 kind of came out and did something, you know, big 1320 01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:33.199 and bold, I was all for it. And like I 1321 01:00:33.199 --> 01:00:35.360 remember during the Game of the Year at GameSpot that 1322 01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:38.800 got heated because the only argument people could make against 1323 01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:40.840 Breath of the Wild aside from the frame rate issues, 1324 01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:43.480 was but it's not a Zelda game. 1325 01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:45.760 And I'm like, oh, shut up, yeah, And. 1326 01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:47.159 I was like and then again, like the more we 1327 01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:50.280 talked about, the more like we wrote. Oli Welsh wrote 1328 01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:52.239 a really good up at on Polygon when I was there, 1329 01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:56.280 like this is the closest any Zelda game. This is 1330 01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:59.760 basically they took the idea of the very first Zelda 1331 01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:03.760 game but made it in twenty twenty seventeen. So like 1332 01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:05.119 in the middle of the map, Yeah, I have fun, 1333 01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:07.679 so like in essence, it's the most Zelda ass game 1334 01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:11.119 ever made. But again I was like the first one 1335 01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:14.239 to fire back. I'm like, I want Zelda to evolve, 1336 01:01:14.320 --> 01:01:16.320 and I think, you know, like when it plays with 1337 01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:18.920 this structure that we understand as Zelda. Like Mary you mentioned, 1338 01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:21.920 like my favorite Zelda games are still I mean, Bretha 1339 01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:24.920 Woldteers the King am I almost to my maybe counter 1340 01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:29.039 to my point, I almost don't count them among my 1341 01:01:29.920 --> 01:01:31.400 Like I'm talking when I say my favorite zeld the 1342 01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:34.079 game is my favorite traditional ones like Akarina Majora, like 1343 01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:36.840 the sixty four era or I don't know, I really 1344 01:01:36.920 --> 01:01:39.880 like Link between Worlds. But I'm all for them for 1345 01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:43.079 it evolving. But uh, and I'm very glad I was 1346 01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:45.760 a wisdom is even a thing and that it's such 1347 01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:49.119 a full fledged Zelda game. But yeah, got it. The 1348 01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:52.599 more I play it, the more I'm simultaneously impressed and 1349 01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:54.199 frustrated because of the rough edges. 1350 01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:57.719 It's flawed for sure. Yeah, No, I don't think. 1351 01:01:57.639 --> 01:01:59.800 I'll forget it anytime soon, which is more than I 1352 01:01:59.800 --> 01:02:04.199 can for some like really tight, boring games. 1353 01:02:03.360 --> 01:02:05.199 We were you know, we will need to figure out 1354 01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:06.519 what we're talking about, game of the year and stuff. Here. 1355 01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.599 We're kind of talking a little bit off mic about 1356 01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:11.280 the homework assignments we want to give each other because 1357 01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:13.679 literally the next episode is our game of your episode 1358 01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:16.880 just insane to think about. So we made a little 1359 01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:19.280 doc here of like, okay, games that we think everyone 1360 01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:21.400 else should play beforehand, because we're going to talk about 1361 01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:24.199 it quite a bit. My two U we'll talk about 1362 01:02:24.199 --> 01:02:27.320 more in a bed Echo Point Nova and UFO fifty. 1363 01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:30.159 Do you guys have any off the top of your heads? 1364 01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:33.800 Oh, off the top of our heads. We also have 1365 01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:36.039 to have maxes for games that we should all play 1366 01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:39.639 because I think I think while you can obviously put, 1367 01:02:40.360 --> 01:02:42.079 I'm just gonna say this while I buy time for 1368 01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:44.320 us to think about our games. But it's like, while 1369 01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:47.880 we could all say like, well you better uh put, 1370 01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:50.280 Oh my god, I can't even think of any right now. 1371 01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:53.480 Yeah, like two two two seems fair if you. 1372 01:02:53.559 --> 01:02:55.360 Like is it two? Is it five? Like I'm not 1373 01:02:55.400 --> 01:02:59.320 going to play ten, like you're definitely gonna ru fifty. 1374 01:02:59.239 --> 01:03:01.239 Fifty UFO fifties already. 1375 01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:03.199 I ain't gonna play all of them. You better tell 1376 01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:04.320 me your favorite. 1377 01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:05.360 Nova was not on my list. 1378 01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:08.119 I will talk about that in the bid here. Did 1379 01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:11.360 did you both play Prince of Persia the Last Crown? Yepkay? 1380 01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:12.679 Oh yeah we raved about that the beginning. 1381 01:03:12.679 --> 01:03:15.480 Oh yeah, we played about Prince of Persia. I think 1382 01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:19.679 that's fair cro country on there. To be honest with you, 1383 01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:22.840 I think that's yeah. That's going to be for. 1384 01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:24.559 Those too that that I want to play. Just out 1385 01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:25.320 of my own excitement. 1386 01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:26.800 I'll put it on there because I didn't think you 1387 01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:30.239 guys would play it, which is why it's probably worth That's. 1388 01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:31.880 What this is for. This is for the homework. 1389 01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:36.599 Going to say, Marry, we've been playing survival horror games together. 1390 01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:39.199 Literally the series inspired this game. 1391 01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:41.920 But where have you been? 1392 01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:43.000 What are we doing? 1393 01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:43.199 Uh? 1394 01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:46.079 Well, we'll need to play Rise the Golden Idol. Yeah, 1395 01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:48.679 it's coming out between now and the end of the year. 1396 01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:50.920 I gotta play the last one under the Wire. I 1397 01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:52.320 think Dragon. 1398 01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:56.519 Dragon I need to play. Sorry, I'm glad to see 1399 01:03:56.519 --> 01:03:57.920 that's the kind of attitude. I got a bone to 1400 01:03:57.920 --> 01:03:59.800 pick with you about a certain game that you want 1401 01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:00.360 to Wow. 1402 01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:05.119 Okay, I know where we're going here. Okay, Okay. 1403 01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:08.840 I sat down to Metaphor Refensasio and I was like, okay, 1404 01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:11.760 so I'll play and then maybe tonight I'll get to 1405 01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:14.280 that part that Dan mentioned that pushed him away, because 1406 01:04:14.280 --> 01:04:15.800 I'm sure it's really far into the game. 1407 01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:17.079 It wasn't just that part. 1408 01:04:17.559 --> 01:04:19.280 But you said, how long did you play that game? 1409 01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:20.320 Twelve minutes? 1410 01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:23.159 Twelve minutes? Do you sincerely think that that's giving a 1411 01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:24.360 game a chance? No? 1412 01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:25.719 Why did you? 1413 01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:28.000 Why did you? Like? You had this preamble about how 1414 01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:30.079 noble you were for giving a game of chance and 1415 01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:33.239 meeting it halfway? That was not a bit. Maybe in 1416 01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:35.840 retrospect you're painting it as a bit. You were being serious. 1417 01:04:35.960 --> 01:04:39.719 You thought that was like being all like high and 1418 01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:40.639 mighty and being like. 1419 01:04:40.639 --> 01:04:44.559 Okay, I was because I was open to a personal 1420 01:04:44.599 --> 01:04:48.400 growth moment. Am I giving this game a shot? I'm growing? No, 1421 01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:51.079 I'm not giving myself any credit because I lasted twelve 1422 01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:53.280 minutes for the fuck this shit like, So that's not 1423 01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:56.280 personal growth. That's me doing everything I've always done so 1424 01:04:56.440 --> 01:04:58.639 now all as a person there, Okay, at. 1425 01:04:58.559 --> 01:04:59.400 Least you acknowledge that. 1426 01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:02.159 Now that we're for twelve minutes, I was a big man, 1427 01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:04.639 last big man. 1428 01:05:05.039 --> 01:05:06.039 It's longer than I. 1429 01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:11.360 My anime game about Mike Kings and Magic. Yeah, it's 1430 01:05:11.400 --> 01:05:12.840 it's I'm sure it's a really good game. 1431 01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:15.760 Oh man, I'm digging that game a lot. And that's 1432 01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:17.599 and that's I'm not going to give that to anybody 1433 01:05:17.679 --> 01:05:19.159 like I think Jake and I are the only ones. 1434 01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:21.000 Jake's put way more time into it. I can't give 1435 01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:22.880 you that. It's one hundred and twenty hours. If you 1436 01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:24.760 finish it, that's not happening. Like, I'm not asking to 1437 01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:25.679 play it, but for it. 1438 01:05:26.480 --> 01:05:28.159 I'll quit the podcast if you put that on this dog. 1439 01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:32.000 For what it's worth, that game. 1440 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:35.840 You have the ability to do the funniest thing right. 1441 01:05:35.719 --> 01:05:40.639 Now in the call. All right, you're right, it would 1442 01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:43.199 be funny. 1443 01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:47.039 I consider it with my bits fire Escape is canceled 1444 01:05:47.079 --> 01:05:49.199 and the funniest bit Dan has ever done. 1445 01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:54.920 It would be really good. Mike, tell us about your 1446 01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:55.679 your Magic game. 1447 01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:58.519 I'm fifteen hours in, so not that far. I finished 1448 01:05:58.559 --> 01:05:59.960 the first Palace you've done. 1449 01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:00.760 What have you? 1450 01:06:01.440 --> 01:06:05.800 I'm using Palace because that was persona no inenclature. But God, 1451 01:06:05.920 --> 01:06:07.519 for as much as that game annoys me, it also 1452 01:06:07.559 --> 01:06:11.239 impresses the hell out of me. Like similar to Persona 1453 01:06:11.519 --> 01:06:14.079 five and four, those are the only two I've played 1454 01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:19.800 very slow start I Also, it's not just I'm fine 1455 01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:22.079 with the game being talky as long as it's done well, 1456 01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:24.679 and much of this game has actually done surprise like 1457 01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:28.679 the Overwooking story I really like. But so many times 1458 01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:31.079 the game says eight things when it could just say one. 1459 01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:36.280 And also just as often it's almost like they're recapping 1460 01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:38.960 every single scene right after it happens. That kind of 1461 01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:41.440 writing annoys me. When this game gets out of its 1462 01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:45.079 own way, similar to Persona five, when it's talkie and 1463 01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:47.800 you know, a meaningful way to like ramp up drama 1464 01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:50.559 on the way to your next big mission, then it's 1465 01:06:50.559 --> 01:06:55.480 super fun. The momentum gets going. Possibly one of my 1466 01:06:55.519 --> 01:07:02.159 favorite RPG combat systems ever. Octopath Traveler two was the 1467 01:07:02.199 --> 01:07:04.480 most recent one, or Octopath Traveler one and two where 1468 01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:06.719 I was like, oh my god, this is incredible. I 1469 01:07:06.719 --> 01:07:10.000 thought Persona five's combat was fine. It wasn't, you know, 1470 01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:12.800 it wasn't super building on the earlier on four at 1471 01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:15.320 least again that's the only other one I've played in 1472 01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:21.320 huge ways, but metaphors Combat is one of those things 1473 01:07:21.320 --> 01:07:23.559 where the more I play it, the more I enjoy it, 1474 01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:26.679 which in a genre I think many people associate with grinding, 1475 01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:29.480 which you can do here. I think that's pretty impressive 1476 01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:36.199 using weaknesses to basically chain chain a series of attacks, 1477 01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:38.840 as opposed to Persona five, where you use an enemy's 1478 01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:41.960 weakness and it stuns them. The objective there was to 1479 01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:43.559 stun all them once, so then you could use these 1480 01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:44.320 group of attacks. 1481 01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:44.559 Here. 1482 01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:47.840 The weakness does a little bit more damage to the enemy, 1483 01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:50.800 but it only costs you half a turn. So then 1484 01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:53.519 if you have three characters, that means you have three turns. 1485 01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:56.280 If you hit an enemy with a weakness every time, 1486 01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:59.320 or get a critical, and there's a few other criteria, 1487 01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:04.639 you can actually double that turn count. As a few 1488 01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:06.320 people have told me, you can actually start to do 1489 01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:10.760 more with that throughout the game. But I'm just finished 1490 01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:16.199 the first palace. I love the character designed so far. 1491 01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:20.239 Some of the characters are more just more compelling than others. 1492 01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:23.359 I'm looking forward to building up my party much more 1493 01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:25.399 like you do in Persona. You unlock these new people, 1494 01:08:25.439 --> 01:08:28.920 but I also really like the flexibility. I think I've 1495 01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:31.720 said this before on fire Escape, but I'm not a 1496 01:08:31.800 --> 01:08:35.479 respec person in games. It makes me like, do. 1497 01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:37.640 I appreciate your cheating? 1498 01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:41.159 It's it to me. It's like I have spent the 1499 01:08:41.239 --> 01:08:44.600 last like twenty five hours getting into the muscle memory 1500 01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:48.159 and like building out this character. Like Dieblo Forore, it's 1501 01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:51.199 just as easy. You can refund all your skills. I 1502 01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:54.359 appreciate the option, but like it's almost overwhelming to think. 1503 01:08:54.399 --> 01:08:56.640 It's like, it took me this long to really feel 1504 01:08:56.640 --> 01:08:58.680 comfortable with this character. I don't know if I could 1505 01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:00.960 just start from scratch and also have to learn like 1506 01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:04.600 eight things at once. Metaphor is one of those games 1507 01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:08.239 that it's actually doing a great job of encouraging me 1508 01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:11.520 to switch out their archetypes. Those are just their They're 1509 01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:15.239 like persone that come in and do their elemental attacks 1510 01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:20.159 and their magical attacks. They're healing their buffs, that anything 1511 01:09:20.319 --> 01:09:22.439 that's not just using their sword to hit the enemy 1512 01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:28.560 in the face. You can swap them pretty much at will. 1513 01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:31.960 At a certain point, you also start unlocking new slots 1514 01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:36.039 to inherit them skills from other archetypes. So then let's 1515 01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:38.199 say you could be the healer, but you can also 1516 01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:43.439 inherit skills from the brawler. It was like a job system, yeah, basically, 1517 01:09:43.479 --> 01:09:46.560 and there's really no penalty for switching at any point, 1518 01:09:46.640 --> 01:09:49.399 aside from the fact that you just won't be progressing 1519 01:09:49.439 --> 01:09:58.319 through that archtype skills. The boss fights are generally really 1520 01:09:58.319 --> 01:10:02.279 well designed. I've only done like two major boss fights, 1521 01:10:02.279 --> 01:10:04.279 have done some other like mini bosses that are just 1522 01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:08.520 kind of it's more about the spectacle. And then lastly, 1523 01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:12.039 the world building is just unlike anything I've seen before. 1524 01:10:13.079 --> 01:10:16.439 I mean, yeah, it's a lot of like fantasy, medieval 1525 01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:21.520 florid bullshit. But anytime I'm like, okay, I've seen enough 1526 01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:23.600 of this in video games. Then all of a sudden, 1527 01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:29.239 like the depot, the dead king will then rise up 1528 01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:32.039 out of the castle as this floating upside down volcano 1529 01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:34.159 with a lava face, and he'll tell everybody that he's 1530 01:10:34.199 --> 01:10:39.159 like he's instituting this contest for the next king. And 1531 01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:41.920 then all of a sudden you find out that humans 1532 01:10:41.960 --> 01:10:44.479 are like the monsters in this world. So you fight humans. 1533 01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:46.800 Yeah it's crazy, we're the walking dead. 1534 01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:49.560 Yeah we're the monsters, but they're actually monsters. 1535 01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:53.119 So like an enemys, we're actually the people the whole time. 1536 01:10:53.399 --> 01:10:58.119 Yeah, it'll be it'll be like a giant bird's egg 1537 01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:00.840 with a human face sticking out of it, and then 1538 01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:03.359 there's a spear through the length of the egg, so 1539 01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:05.960 it looks like your dick. But then he's got like 1540 01:11:06.039 --> 01:11:09.880 fishnet stocking legs. It just sounds like a really sexy 1541 01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:14.000 mister potato head, I know. But yeah, the enemy design 1542 01:11:14.039 --> 01:11:20.399 has definitely got that Atlas trademark at weird Atlas vibe. 1543 01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:20.520 To it all. 1544 01:11:21.159 --> 01:11:22.840 Again, I'm not trying to sell you too. It especial 1545 01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:25.479 because it's a hundred twenty hours, but I'm liking it 1546 01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:28.000 a lot so far. And you know, Jake has told 1547 01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:30.760 me that the combat keeps getting better, which I'm excited 1548 01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:32.680 about because anytime I feel like I've really wrapped my 1549 01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:35.800 head around everything, it does introduced things at a good clip. 1550 01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:41.960 So I'm gonna keep playing see if the impressive moments 1551 01:11:42.880 --> 01:11:46.479 outweigh the frustrating moments, which again, so many times I'm like, 1552 01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:50.359 all right, done with I I appreciate talking, but you 1553 01:11:50.479 --> 01:11:52.399 just said the same thing four times in a row, 1554 01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:54.000 and I just want to I'm trying to ask through 1555 01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:57.600 the thought bubbles or the dialogue bubbles, et cetera. So yeah, 1556 01:11:57.600 --> 01:12:02.000 we'll see, we're gona keep playing it. Okay, cool Dan? 1557 01:12:02.079 --> 01:12:05.760 What is Echo Point Nova? Did I say that correctly? 1558 01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:09.119 Echo Point Nova? This? Have either of you heard of this? 1559 01:12:09.960 --> 01:12:12.560 No? I'm shocked. I looked it up because I hadn't 1560 01:12:12.600 --> 01:12:14.319 heard of it, and it's so odd to me that 1561 01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:16.680 this has never come up before. I don't even how 1562 01:12:16.720 --> 01:12:20.399 did you find this? This is a first person A couple. 1563 01:12:20.079 --> 01:12:22.880 Of people specifically brought it up to me as sounding 1564 01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:24.760 like a Dan ass Dan game. I think Bonk and 1565 01:12:24.840 --> 01:12:26.199 Grub both were like, have you heard of this game? 1566 01:12:26.239 --> 01:12:29.279 You should check this out, and they were right. It 1567 01:12:29.439 --> 01:12:32.479 is super open world, just a bunch of sky islands, 1568 01:12:32.840 --> 01:12:36.600 and instantly you were just like dropped in no fucking story. 1569 01:12:36.960 --> 01:12:37.079 Uh. 1570 01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:40.479 And it's just like you're getting weapons, you're getting abilities, 1571 01:12:40.520 --> 01:12:42.960 like okay, you're here's your double jump. Now you got 1572 01:12:42.960 --> 01:12:45.439 a grappling hook and you can grapple clouds. You can 1573 01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:48.199 just like swing around these sky islands by grabbing clouds. 1574 01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:49.800 You can grapple enemies and go to them. You have 1575 01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:52.680 a hoverboard, so your sprint button basically at any point 1576 01:12:52.880 --> 01:12:55.720 whipped out like a hoverboard and you're like just wall sliding, 1577 01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:58.960 sliding up these islands, just going crazy. It is. There's 1578 01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:02.119 agility orbs like crackdown. So there's all sorts of like, okay, 1579 01:13:02.119 --> 01:13:04.560 you got this next ugility thing. You now have a 1580 01:13:04.840 --> 01:13:07.199 quadruple jump, and now you've got this butt stump that 1581 01:13:07.239 --> 01:13:09.840 makes this explosion happen. And it's just a bunch of 1582 01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:13.319 like platforming around these islands. And then there's a combat 1583 01:13:13.319 --> 01:13:15.880 arenas on the islands where it's like, okay, press this 1584 01:13:15.960 --> 01:13:18.079 button to start the arena and here's twenty four dudes 1585 01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:22.159 and you're just hoverboarding around, slowing down time, grappling to people, 1586 01:13:22.439 --> 01:13:24.520 fucking running into them with a hoverboard and sending them 1587 01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:28.039 flying off an island. It is like weird physics and stuff. 1588 01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:31.800 It is the most dewey ass game you could ever imagine. 1589 01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:35.119 It all feels so good, almost like JANKI in a 1590 01:13:35.159 --> 01:13:36.880 good way where it's like I should not be able 1591 01:13:36.920 --> 01:13:40.079 to be vertically hoverboarding up this island while shooting a 1592 01:13:40.079 --> 01:13:43.920 bunch of dudes to it. It is. It is. So we 1593 01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:45.800 did a co op stream on Giant Bomb and it 1594 01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:48.239 was a blast. It was like I was loving it. 1595 01:13:48.359 --> 01:13:50.359 Solo and then we got four of us in there, 1596 01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:53.119 and it's just four of us hoverboarding around, just doing 1597 01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:56.479 crazy flips and killing everyone. It is. It is a 1598 01:13:56.520 --> 01:13:58.640 game made for me, and I think I think both 1599 01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:00.520 of you could appreciate equip it actively and make for 1600 01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:01.920 a pretty good page run video. 1601 01:14:03.039 --> 01:14:07.359 The Steam like, uh, the Steam trailer just video gameplay 1602 01:14:07.399 --> 01:14:08.159 is mesmerizing. 1603 01:14:08.880 --> 01:14:12.199 Yeah, it's just super fast paced. It is, but you 1604 01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:13.840 feel like you have set. 1605 01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:15.600 A part of it doesn't seem like it. There's no, 1606 01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:17.359 it's not like a speed runny game, but it has 1607 01:14:17.399 --> 01:14:19.880 a visual style that it's like a speed run game, 1608 01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:20.319 but it's not. 1609 01:14:20.920 --> 01:14:23.960 No, it's not like titan Fall meets like a your 1610 01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:25.520 foot game. It's kind of got that look to it 1611 01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:26.920 where it's like it looks like it should be a 1612 01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:29.319 speed run thing, Mary, but it's like you can take 1613 01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:31.159 your time, and like there's parts if you don't activate, 1614 01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:33.920 like a combat encounter, you could really just spend as 1615 01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:36.399 long as you want exploring, like opening up the map 1616 01:14:36.439 --> 01:14:39.399 and getting agility orbs, and like it's very generous with 1617 01:14:39.479 --> 01:14:42.039 spawn points and stuff. Basically anytime you're on solid ground, 1618 01:14:42.079 --> 01:14:43.520 it's just like okay, you can spawn here, you can 1619 01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:45.760 fast travel here. It's like there's no barrier to having 1620 01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:48.720 fun here. You're just hopping in immediately immediately getting all 1621 01:14:48.760 --> 01:14:52.640 these abilities fast travels, easy deaths, are quick respawns. Uh. 1622 01:14:52.920 --> 01:14:55.439 You know, all all the weapons level up individually just 1623 01:14:55.439 --> 01:14:57.079 by using them, so like, oh, I'm using this grenade 1624 01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:59.560 launcher a lot. Oh now the explosion has a bigger radius. Oh, 1625 01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:02.439 now I've got these HG rounds for it. You unlock 1626 01:15:02.520 --> 01:15:05.720 skins like unlockables for all the different weapons. Grenade's on 1627 01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:07.199 a cool down, so it's not a lot of like 1628 01:15:07.199 --> 01:15:10.479 collecting stuff. It is a Oh man, it is a 1629 01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:13.720 game made for me. It is fantastic. So it went 1630 01:15:13.760 --> 01:15:16.560 from me not knowing what it was to very quickly 1631 01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:17.960 into my time with it being like, oh, this is 1632 01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:19.319 going to be on my top ten for sure. This 1633 01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:20.039 is awesome. 1634 01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:22.760 Yeah. I was seeing a quote that it looks like 1635 01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:25.119 titan or it plays like Titan Fall meets Doom meets 1636 01:15:25.159 --> 01:15:25.720 Tony Hawk. 1637 01:15:26.359 --> 01:15:27.840 I think that's a great way to put it. 1638 01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:31.119 It also kind of looks like Edge Runner, was it. 1639 01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:34.000 It is made by the developers of Severed Steel, which 1640 01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:36.119 I don't remember if I played that, but it was 1641 01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:41.439 a similar Yeah, platforming speed thing. Yeah, but checking recommendation 1642 01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:44.479 it is a great. Oh it's an amazing podcast game. 1643 01:15:44.520 --> 01:15:46.319 If you just want to have something on the background 1644 01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:48.840 and just go to town, you're not going to miss anything. 1645 01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:49.319 It's great. 1646 01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:51.960 Are you playing on with mouse and keyboard or a controller? 1647 01:15:52.439 --> 01:15:54.880 I was playing on controller until we did that multiplayer 1648 01:15:54.920 --> 01:15:57.640 stream and everyone peer pressured and mocked me for playing 1649 01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:00.640 a first person shooter with a controller, and I switched 1650 01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:02.279 the mouse and keyboard. It's like, man, there's a whole 1651 01:16:02.279 --> 01:16:04.960 bunch of more buttons and you can ham realm. Turns 1652 01:16:05.000 --> 01:16:07.840 out it maybe these kids with their mice and keyboards, 1653 01:16:07.840 --> 01:16:09.199 this new fan thing might might. 1654 01:16:09.079 --> 01:16:10.760 Be onto something in PC gamers. 1655 01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:13.079 Yeah, maybe they're onto some that's thing. I play pacy 1656 01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:14.880 games all the time, but just always with the controller. 1657 01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:16.800 But yeah, it's uh. 1658 01:16:16.880 --> 01:16:18.680 I like a controller. I like the way it fits 1659 01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:20.800 in my hand, and I like the way it feels 1660 01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:25.800 for everything except for an FPS. When you're playing an FPS, 1661 01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:28.920 that's when it changes because you want the mouse for 1662 01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:34.199 your retical for everything else. I do really like a controller. 1663 01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:36.479 I still think like with a game like this where 1664 01:16:36.520 --> 01:16:40.439 it's like wall running and sliding and whatnot, that never 1665 01:16:40.439 --> 01:16:43.039 feels as set. I prefer mouse and keyboard most of 1666 01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:44.840 the time, but that never feels as satisfying to me 1667 01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:45.800 on a mouse and keyboard. 1668 01:16:46.439 --> 01:16:48.560 Well, I feel like, like with stuff like grapple hooks 1669 01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:50.159 and stuff like that, I feel like it is more 1670 01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:53.680 natural for me at least to hit LB instead of 1671 01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:56.319 like Q. You know, like it feels like you're doing like, 1672 01:16:56.439 --> 01:16:57.920 you know, a bunch of stuff with their hand. Here, 1673 01:16:57.920 --> 01:16:59.319 it's like, oh fuck, I gotta go over this. Wait, 1674 01:16:59.319 --> 01:17:01.319 what was croudch It's almost a little too much where 1675 01:17:01.319 --> 01:17:03.560 it's like my brain maps to a controller easier. But 1676 01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:06.920 it's probably just because I didn't grow up playing PC games. Yeah, 1677 01:17:07.560 --> 01:17:09.279 but that's how I think. I think both of you 1678 01:17:09.279 --> 01:17:11.720 would enjoy it quite a bit. It's it's a lot of. 1679 01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:14.079 Fun, all right, Cool, I'll play it. 1680 01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:15.199 Cool Mary. 1681 01:17:15.239 --> 01:17:17.800 What's night Trap? Okay? 1682 01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:22.439 This is a short one. It's the Night Trap. I 1683 01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:25.800 was told that Vinnie has played this before and it's 1684 01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:28.000 like a thing, but I had never heard of it. 1685 01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:29.000 If you look up. 1686 01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:33.399 The yeah, like live. 1687 01:17:33.239 --> 01:17:39.479 Action and you have to sometimes. I've never played it. 1688 01:17:39.680 --> 01:17:40.439 I've never played. 1689 01:17:40.520 --> 01:17:42.800 Al Gore's wife, Tipper brought this to Congress and was 1690 01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:47.359 very upset about it. Mortal Combat rating system stuff. Yeah, 1691 01:17:47.720 --> 01:17:48.239 that's right. 1692 01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:52.359 So I what I'm bringing up? 1693 01:17:52.760 --> 01:17:53.000 Gore? 1694 01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:56.920 Who's Trap? I'm old? Who's Al Gore? 1695 01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:02.199 Who's Tipper Gore? Imagine I imagine naming someone Tipper. 1696 01:18:03.319 --> 01:18:04.840 Hillary Clinton was involved. 1697 01:18:04.479 --> 01:18:12.159 To my mad and friend Silver invited me to play 1698 01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:15.359 a Halloween game on their stream and I was allowed 1699 01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:17.319 to pick any game I wanted, and I was searching 1700 01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:20.399 through all these different Halloween games and I have not 1701 01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:22.760 played this, and everybody else knows about it, and it's 1702 01:18:22.920 --> 01:18:26.399 obviously very beloved and known in game or lore. And 1703 01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:30.199 I was like to say, I guess that's true because 1704 01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:33.279 I beat it and it took I think it took 1705 01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:35.600 three hours for me to get through this son of 1706 01:18:35.640 --> 01:18:38.439 a bitch. It is very complicated, but it's also a 1707 01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:42.199 beloved game where it's live action of a party or 1708 01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:45.079 maybe yeah, like a teen party, where things go wrong 1709 01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:49.399 and you hit the traps that grab people that either 1710 01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:52.439 save the day or if you miss too many of them, 1711 01:18:52.439 --> 01:18:56.720 and it's insane the percentage of uh you have to get. 1712 01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:58.640 I think it's like if you go under seventy five 1713 01:18:58.680 --> 01:19:01.640 percent or seventy percent of the times, you're supposed to 1714 01:19:01.680 --> 01:19:04.760 trap people. You just lose, You just straight up lose, 1715 01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:06.319 and then you have to do it all over again. 1716 01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:10.520 And so it's a really annoying mechanic and poorly executed 1717 01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:13.960 before it's time. Quite innovative with the fact that, like 1718 01:19:14.199 --> 01:19:18.520 you're looking at all these different screens in security cam 1719 01:19:18.840 --> 01:19:21.960 footage to know which trap to hit at the right 1720 01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:26.920 time to stop these teams from essentially dying. And it's 1721 01:19:26.960 --> 01:19:31.600 crazy how interesting and innovative it was probably at its time, 1722 01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:33.399 and how it's probably inspired a lot of games that 1723 01:19:33.439 --> 01:19:35.920 are modern and beloved now, like Five Nights at Freddy's Right, 1724 01:19:35.960 --> 01:19:38.520 where you're like skipping through security cams to find out 1725 01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:40.680 which one you should be looking at it any given time. 1726 01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:44.640 It's not scary, it's more like funny and a bit 1727 01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:48.000 of a joke for eighties style humor. But I had 1728 01:19:48.039 --> 01:19:50.119 a really good time playing it. I think, like, I'm 1729 01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:53.439 glad it's in my gamer repertoire now, like I'll probably 1730 01:19:53.520 --> 01:19:56.119 like bring it up. And then the lore that everyone 1731 01:19:56.119 --> 01:19:59.600 talks about is that this game was how it came 1732 01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:03.000 to be that now we have ESRB ratings because I 1733 01:20:03.039 --> 01:20:05.199 guess there was a scene where a girl is like 1734 01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:08.239 in a ninety and she gets like grabbed, she gets killed. 1735 01:20:09.279 --> 01:20:15.399 It's not like syringe, like a like a needle in 1736 01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:17.600 her neck, but it's it's it's not to injector. It's 1737 01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:20.279 like like a rod goes into their body and they die. 1738 01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:23.760 And that's the footage that they gave the government, which 1739 01:20:23.840 --> 01:20:26.560 was like you have to start monitoring these games because 1740 01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:29.680 they're killing scantily clad women in them, and that's how 1741 01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:30.840 we got the ESRB. 1742 01:20:31.239 --> 01:20:32.720 Well, and yeah, that's the thing is like that was 1743 01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:35.079 so like you know, early nineties, and you know, up 1744 01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:37.119 until then, it was like pixels and ape and stuff. 1745 01:20:37.199 --> 01:20:41.159 Mario and they really freaked out with Mortal Kombat being 1746 01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:43.920 digitized actors and night Trap and it's like these are 1747 01:20:44.079 --> 01:20:47.159 people and where these are realistic depictions of violence in 1748 01:20:47.279 --> 01:20:50.199 something that is like definitely then seen as this is 1749 01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:52.680 a children, these are toys. This is for children. And 1750 01:20:52.760 --> 01:20:54.760 so yeah, Tipper Gore and Hillary Clinton like brought them 1751 01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:56.920 to Congress being like, look at this shit. We cannot 1752 01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:59.439 allow this. This needs to be regulated. And so yeah 1753 01:20:59.479 --> 01:21:01.359 that at the time, it was like a thirteen m 1754 01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:04.039 a seventeen. Like I remember that being like when I 1755 01:21:04.039 --> 01:21:06.159 was reading video game magazines back then that was the 1756 01:21:06.279 --> 01:21:09.000 hot topic is like, oh god, have games gone too far? 1757 01:21:09.439 --> 01:21:11.960 Is this going to ruin a generation of children? And 1758 01:21:12.079 --> 01:21:15.239 Night Trap and specifically alas seeing that fucking screenshot of 1759 01:21:15.239 --> 01:21:17.319 the girl with the big cartoon syringe in her neck 1760 01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:19.159 and then you'd be like next to a picture of 1761 01:21:19.159 --> 01:21:21.239 like sub zero holding ahead with the spine coming out 1762 01:21:21.239 --> 01:21:21.960 of it. 1763 01:21:22.039 --> 01:21:25.800 So where'd you It's actually relatively tame, Mike, have you 1764 01:21:26.239 --> 01:21:28.199 seen any footage of this game? Are you like looking 1765 01:21:28.199 --> 01:21:31.439 at it? It's like, yeah, it's a it's relatively tame, Like, yes, 1766 01:21:31.479 --> 01:21:34.960 there are some like sexy people in it, but it's 1767 01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:39.399 nothing sinister or like really slutty or gory happens at all. 1768 01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:40.319 No Wild Things. 1769 01:21:41.359 --> 01:21:45.359 It's No Wild Things, which does have a rating I 1770 01:21:45.399 --> 01:21:48.600 believe of R and has really earned it for really 1771 01:21:48.640 --> 01:21:50.680 big titties all up in your face. 1772 01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:52.840 That's what the arm meats. 1773 01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:57.760 It's incredible they really did earn that. Night Trip is 1774 01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:01.119 like when you trap someone, it'll it'll be like they 1775 01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:03.319 go in a hole and it's like what happened to them? 1776 01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:04.720 And it's like, well you killed them, and it's like 1777 01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:08.439 but nothing, you don't see them die like you don't 1778 01:22:08.560 --> 01:22:10.680 hear them. It's just a hole. 1779 01:22:10.880 --> 01:22:15.159 It's like the Megan Fox from Teeth, except it's a 1780 01:22:15.199 --> 01:22:16.720 bigger one. 1781 01:22:18.800 --> 01:22:24.960 Yes, and I don't think it earned the ESRB rating system, 1782 01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:27.319 but it took me three hours to get through it. 1783 01:22:27.399 --> 01:22:30.560 I probably won't play it again for fun, but I 1784 01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:33.600 could absolutely see myself like putting this game in to 1785 01:22:33.720 --> 01:22:36.319 show a niece or like a family member or a 1786 01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:38.680 friend and be like, you have to play this absurd 1787 01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:43.800 game that I cannot believe existed, and it's got good lore. 1788 01:22:44.000 --> 01:22:45.680 Nineteen ninety two is when it came out. 1789 01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:48.399 Yeah, like as a historical piece, it's like an important 1790 01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:51.039 moment in video games as much as like the game itself. 1791 01:22:51.159 --> 01:22:53.199 I feel like if it wasn't for the controversy, it 1792 01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:55.159 would just be another one of those like FMB games 1793 01:22:55.159 --> 01:22:56.680 of the early nineties where they didn't have that stuff 1794 01:22:56.680 --> 01:22:59.039 figured out yet. But because of the controversy, it really 1795 01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:02.640 is an infamous Yeah, well, not. 1796 01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:04.119 Too much more to say about it. I'm glad I 1797 01:23:04.159 --> 01:23:07.560 played it. I'm glad that silver Streak, who also streams, 1798 01:23:07.600 --> 01:23:08.840 he was the one who like came up with the 1799 01:23:08.840 --> 01:23:11.479 idea and was like, let's play a horror game. Uh yeah, 1800 01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:14.439 that's the secret and it's funny, like a lot of 1801 01:23:14.479 --> 01:23:16.399 people probably knew that, but for anyone who didn't know, 1802 01:23:16.880 --> 01:23:20.079 that is the lore of night Trap and the ESRB 1803 01:23:20.239 --> 01:23:23.720 rating system, which is pretty interesting history. 1804 01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:26.119 With Mary as our first segment, we'll be doing that 1805 01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:29.399 every single episode. Mary, now you need to bring in 1806 01:23:29.439 --> 01:23:32.479 a little history tidbit to every episode. 1807 01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:35.079 I have a really nice song for it. 1808 01:23:35.199 --> 01:23:38.600 The more you know, yeah, Dan, I saw you're playing 1809 01:23:38.640 --> 01:23:39.560 Black Ops six. 1810 01:23:40.279 --> 01:23:44.560 Yeah, holy shit. I feel like I went from really yeah, 1811 01:23:44.600 --> 01:23:47.319 I played every Call of Duty a lot, you know, 1812 01:23:47.359 --> 01:23:49.720 pull on like prestiging numerous times, from like you know, 1813 01:23:49.800 --> 01:23:52.840 Call of Duty two on the three sixty up until 1814 01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:56.640 god like there's infinite warfare, advanced warfare ghosts, Like I'm 1815 01:23:56.680 --> 01:23:59.000 still doing every entry then and like I think the 1816 01:23:59.039 --> 01:24:01.239 one where I started fall off the every year was 1817 01:24:01.279 --> 01:24:03.000 like Black Ops four. Was that the one that was 1818 01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:05.760 like mainly war zone there was no campaign, there was 1819 01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:08.079 no campaign. And then it went back to like I 1820 01:24:08.119 --> 01:24:10.159 didn't play w DOWE two. I just like that's been 1821 01:24:10.319 --> 01:24:10.880 done to death. 1822 01:24:11.560 --> 01:24:13.760 What you just said w w E two. 1823 01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:17.840 No I didn't, Yes you did, No, I didn't w 1824 01:24:18.000 --> 01:24:19.880 W two. I might have said it weird. I played 1825 01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:20.600 the business. 1826 01:24:20.640 --> 01:24:22.600 World War two. I'm sorry, I thought you said w 1827 01:24:22.760 --> 01:24:26.800 w E two. Okay, No, World War two, Yes, okay, 1828 01:24:27.119 --> 01:24:27.399 it was. 1829 01:24:27.880 --> 01:24:31.520 It was a shoot. It really happened. So so I 1830 01:24:31.760 --> 01:24:34.199 fell off. Yeah, Black Ops four, w DOW two. I 1831 01:24:34.239 --> 01:24:35.720 didn't play a lot of what was after that. 1832 01:24:36.439 --> 01:24:38.760 I didn't play Cold War Vanguard, the other World War 1833 01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:39.119 two one. 1834 01:24:39.319 --> 01:24:40.640 Yea, I didn't play Banger So like I feel like 1835 01:24:40.680 --> 01:24:42.720 I've been on a break from call of duty for 1836 01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:45.119 the first time in a long time, uh, and coming 1837 01:24:45.199 --> 01:24:48.159 back to it like Ship this well, I mean I 1838 01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:50.880 played the moderwork for one remake. I played the ship 1839 01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:54.039 out of Monterwork for one remake didn't play much too, 1840 01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:56.039 And that didn't have a real campaign right like. 1841 01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:59.520 Two and two did. But it was very much like 1842 01:24:59.720 --> 01:25:02.720 just a series of gimmicky missions back to back. 1843 01:25:02.720 --> 01:25:04.000 I make a three remake. 1844 01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:06.359 There's a matter of work for three that was last year. 1845 01:25:06.439 --> 01:25:09.399 Yeah it was, but it was it was universally panned. 1846 01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:12.239 Oh that's right, Okay, so I think there were reasons. 1847 01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:15.840 That Shriyer had reported it was be DLC at first, right. 1848 01:25:15.800 --> 01:25:18.279 Yeah, okay, so yeah, there are numerous ones I've not played, 1849 01:25:19.039 --> 01:25:21.600 but man, this one. You know, I saw were you 1850 01:25:21.640 --> 01:25:23.079 saying like, oh, this is like a breath of fresh 1851 01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:25.159 air for the campaign. I was like, okay, cool, I've 1852 01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:27.479 always been a campaign guy more than I was multiplayer 1853 01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:31.439 and it is so good. I'm like, i think I'm 1854 01:25:31.439 --> 01:25:34.840 over halfway through now. Incredible pacing. It is just like 1855 01:25:34.920 --> 01:25:38.520 a ton of variety. It is really getting away from 1856 01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:42.439 that Steve Frosty who uh military stuff and way more 1857 01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:48.000 Mission Impossible twenty four. Yeah, It's like there's like but 1858 01:25:48.079 --> 01:25:49.479 that's what I'm with. Like the variety. There's like a 1859 01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:51.800 lot of like espionage tech missions like remember that one 1860 01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:54.680 and uncharted sneak into the like auction, the art auction 1861 01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:58.199 and stuff stuff like that. Where it's a Bill Clinton speech. 1862 01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:00.279 It's like prior to the ninety two election, and you're 1863 01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:02.920 like you see Bill Clinton and he's just up there 1864 01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:05.119 and on a stage and you're like, you know, do 1865 01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:06.640 I want to go talk to the senator's wife at 1866 01:26:06.640 --> 01:26:07.960 the bar? Do I want to go do this? And 1867 01:26:08.000 --> 01:26:09.800 I got to get a retinal scan of this guy, 1868 01:26:10.399 --> 01:26:13.600 very James Bondy type stuff. And then the next thing 1869 01:26:13.680 --> 01:26:17.520 will be like you're in a desert storm and it's 1870 01:26:17.560 --> 01:26:22.000 like a small open world, a desert area where it's like, okay, 1871 01:26:22.039 --> 01:26:24.479 you can just go destroy these three scud missile sites, 1872 01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:27.039 or you can go around and like there's some dudes 1873 01:26:27.079 --> 01:26:29.319 down in the helicopter crash over here, there's some supply 1874 01:26:29.399 --> 01:26:32.079 drops over here, there's SAM sites here, And if you 1875 01:26:32.119 --> 01:26:34.159 do all that stuff, you're getting more cash to build 1876 01:26:34.199 --> 01:26:35.560 up your base between missions. 1877 01:26:36.760 --> 01:26:39.239 You're more in that particular mission. Yeah. 1878 01:26:39.319 --> 01:26:41.600 Yeah, so you get the chopper gunner and all that stuff. 1879 01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:44.439 So it's like I literally did every single thing on 1880 01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:46.199 the every point of interest. I got the trophy for 1881 01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:47.720 that because I was just having so much fun, like 1882 01:26:48.159 --> 01:26:51.720 driving around in a jeep, just like even little encounters 1883 01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:53.520 that like you know, aren't like when I think call 1884 01:26:53.560 --> 01:26:55.760 of duty campaigns, I think very scripted, just like here's 1885 01:26:55.800 --> 01:26:57.199 the part what this happens, and here's the part where 1886 01:26:57.199 --> 01:26:59.640 you repel down to whatever. And so there was something 1887 01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:02.159 free about like, Okay, it's open. I'm driving around a jep. 1888 01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:04.039 I see two guys on patrol. Hang on, let me 1889 01:27:04.039 --> 01:27:05.800 park the jeep. I'm gonna crawl up on this hill 1890 01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:07.840 and snipe these two dudes. Get back in the jeep, 1891 01:27:07.880 --> 01:27:10.920 and it's it feels different and fresh. 1892 01:27:11.079 --> 01:27:14.479 It's got a really nice quality of life touch. I 1893 01:27:14.520 --> 01:27:18.560 don't know if you've noticed. If you're not detected and 1894 01:27:18.600 --> 01:27:20.840 you've got your scope on an enemy, one of your 1895 01:27:20.840 --> 01:27:24.199 teammates will say, don't do that. That's gonna alert somebody. 1896 01:27:24.520 --> 01:27:25.479 I wouldn't take that shot. 1897 01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:28.000 It shows you they Basically it's an audio way to 1898 01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:29.840 tell you, like a diegetic way to tell you they 1899 01:27:29.880 --> 01:27:31.760 are in someone's sideline. 1900 01:27:31.960 --> 01:27:34.560 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's really seamless, nice touch. 1901 01:27:34.600 --> 01:27:36.159 I don't remember a game doing that before. I mean 1902 01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:37.840 they're a game. There's stell games that like you could 1903 01:27:37.840 --> 01:27:39.840 see the site lines. But yeah, it was a nice touch. 1904 01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:42.800 Yeah yeah. So it's like that open world thing I 1905 01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:45.800 absolutely adored. And then it just goes right into another 1906 01:27:45.840 --> 01:27:47.800 mission where it's like, okay, I'm at the point out 1907 01:27:47.840 --> 01:27:49.560 on the story where it's like getting weird in a 1908 01:27:49.600 --> 01:27:51.880 way that Call of Duty typically doesn't. And so it 1909 01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:54.359 started like doing something I won't spoil anything, but it's 1910 01:27:54.399 --> 01:27:57.119 just like, oh, okay, we're doing that, Okay, cool. 1911 01:27:57.239 --> 01:28:00.760 Yeah, as I said, you know what I played, So 1912 01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:03.920 I played the whole campaign. I'm curious what mission I. 1913 01:28:03.840 --> 01:28:06.279 Mean, I just went into like a research facid I 1914 01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:09.479 had to get door cards. I just finished that one. Okay, yeah, 1915 01:28:09.520 --> 01:28:12.359 that's right. And so that was a crazy mission. And 1916 01:28:12.399 --> 01:28:14.720 like even the weapons stuff you're getting, it's doing the 1917 01:28:14.760 --> 01:28:17.399 thing where it's like, yeah, it's early nineties, but also, 1918 01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:19.880 fuck it, here's a homing knife that you can steer 1919 01:28:19.880 --> 01:28:23.199 in mid air and remotely detonated like crazy shit like that. 1920 01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:27.199 That's like didn't happen really, but it's plausible enough to like, oh, 1921 01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:29.840 this super secret Black Ops thing had these experimental weapons, 1922 01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:32.239 and it like when you call in the kill streaks 1923 01:28:32.239 --> 01:28:35.920 and campaign you're piloting the missiles down in the open 1924 01:28:36.079 --> 01:28:39.239 world areas. That all feels great. It is a I 1925 01:28:39.640 --> 01:28:42.680 am amazed at how much I'm loving this campaign. It 1926 01:28:42.800 --> 01:28:45.039 is really really good, and like to the point where, shit, 1927 01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:47.239 I used to like multiplayer Call of Duty a lot. 1928 01:28:47.239 --> 01:28:49.800 Maybe I'll play more of that just because I'm loving 1929 01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:54.479 this game so And I also wonder, like I feel 1930 01:28:54.479 --> 01:28:56.239 like back in the day, it was always just like, Okay, 1931 01:28:56.239 --> 01:28:58.000 here's the Infinity Ward one, here's the tray Erk one, 1932 01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:00.000 here's Infinity Ward Okay, now we're bringing in a sledgehammer, 1933 01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:02.800 and now we got three. Is this I haven't really 1934 01:29:02.800 --> 01:29:04.279 followed a lot of the like lead up to this 1935 01:29:04.319 --> 01:29:06.680 one or the marketing. Is this just kind of like 1936 01:29:07.319 --> 01:29:10.359 Activision and we've got help from Raven and all of 1937 01:29:10.359 --> 01:29:12.479 these studios. Are they all kind of working together on 1938 01:29:12.520 --> 01:29:14.960 this or is it like predominantly Trey Arc since they're 1939 01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:15.920 the Black Ops teams. 1940 01:29:16.039 --> 01:29:19.159 So Trey Arc got four years to work on this, 1941 01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:23.199 which has oh okay, yeah, because wait, why is that? 1942 01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:27.279 I believe that's because Modern War for three became a 1943 01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:29.359 full fledged game when it wasn't originally supposed to. So 1944 01:29:29.399 --> 01:29:31.600 they had four years since Cold War which is basically 1945 01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:34.520 Black Ops five now based with a new number, so 1946 01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:38.000 they had four years. There's been some shakeups. It sounded 1947 01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:41.880 like things were sketchy at Sledgehammer for a bit. I 1948 01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:44.399 don't know what is gonna I don't know what's going 1949 01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:46.760 happening going forward. But to your point, I don't think 1950 01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:50.079 it's the same exact like concrete rotation as it used 1951 01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:50.279 to be. 1952 01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:53.319 Well, I would love if this is like get everyone 1953 01:29:53.600 --> 01:29:56.159 all hands on deck and wait a few years between them. 1954 01:29:56.720 --> 01:30:00.520 Like I'm I'm sure that the money situation them to 1955 01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:03.680 do every year, but shit, them having four years to 1956 01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:05.640 make this one led to this, Like, this is the 1957 01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:07.199 best call of dude I've played in a long time. 1958 01:30:07.399 --> 01:30:10.640 Have you you dabbled? Are you you're a zombies guy 1959 01:30:10.680 --> 01:30:13.840 at all? Called dody Zombies, I never, like some people 1960 01:30:13.880 --> 01:30:16.960 really liked it. I just never liked zombie aesthetic stuff. 1961 01:30:17.039 --> 01:30:18.880 And like even just the like I felt like every 1962 01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:21.000 Zombies mode was like, Okay, I got to figure out, 1963 01:30:21.000 --> 01:30:22.960 like I grab the doll and turn it up down 1964 01:30:22.960 --> 01:30:24.800 and put inside the ferris wheel and then I you know, 1965 01:30:24.880 --> 01:30:26.800 would tap into secret code and then I can like 1966 01:30:26.840 --> 01:30:29.439 get a special dollar. Yeah, and then I can put 1967 01:30:29.439 --> 01:30:31.319 two more boards on this window. I just I never 1968 01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:33.000 really like zombies that much. 1969 01:30:33.119 --> 01:30:35.960 Yeah, something to do with friends, though, Like the whole 1970 01:30:35.960 --> 01:30:37.800 point of it is it that it's supposed to be 1971 01:30:37.960 --> 01:30:41.439 like really brilliant. It's like that you're getting six buttons 1972 01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:43.920 that you can finish the hat so that you can 1973 01:30:43.920 --> 01:30:45.760 put it on the cat's heads, so that you can 1974 01:30:45.800 --> 01:30:48.680 get an extra nail. And that's what's fun about it 1975 01:30:48.720 --> 01:30:50.560 is it just gives you shit to do with your friends. 1976 01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:53.079 Look, I got Eco point Nova. Now we gotta have boards. 1977 01:30:53.199 --> 01:30:53.640 I'm good. 1978 01:30:54.199 --> 01:30:56.880 Yeah, fair enough, Mary. I'm curious if you get time 1979 01:30:56.960 --> 01:31:00.399 to just dabble in zombies and all. There's two maps. Now, 1980 01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:03.880 Liberty Falls is very much like a Stranger Thing style 1981 01:31:04.439 --> 01:31:08.560 small town and like Appalachia, that is the more like 1982 01:31:08.600 --> 01:31:10.560 intro one where yeah, you can once you get the 1983 01:31:10.600 --> 01:31:13.239 pack a punch machine and you're upgrading your weapons, you 1984 01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:15.880 can unlock these zip lines from tops of buildings. It's 1985 01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:20.159 a really pretty clean like incline towards this church. Everybody 1986 01:31:20.159 --> 01:31:21.479 will be like, Okay, I gotta go pack a punch 1987 01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:23.039 this new level five wepon I just got, Let's go 1988 01:31:23.079 --> 01:31:24.399 back to the church, and then you'll fight your way 1989 01:31:24.399 --> 01:31:27.000 back up. Every once in a while you'll get a 1990 01:31:27.159 --> 01:31:29.720 syringe that turns you into one of the berserker enemies, 1991 01:31:29.760 --> 01:31:33.159 so you just start like hammer punching zombies. And then 1992 01:31:33.159 --> 01:31:35.960 there's a second one called Terminus. That is what you're 1993 01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:38.520 talking about, Dan, That's that Terminus is like made for 1994 01:31:38.600 --> 01:31:40.960 the like Easter Egg diehards who want to see like 1995 01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:42.399 the secret stuff. 1996 01:31:42.920 --> 01:31:45.319 I appreciate that they're doing that. Yeah, they go big 1997 01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:47.000 for the diehards, but I just I don't think I'm 1998 01:31:47.039 --> 01:31:47.520 one of them. No. 1999 01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:51.399 Yeah, it's definitely like a core group of freaks that 2000 01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:54.840 like it, and I identify as one of those people. 2001 01:31:55.079 --> 01:31:58.880 I just think like it's core value the zombie mode. 2002 01:31:58.920 --> 01:32:00.960 Like I used to always get really into like different 2003 01:32:00.960 --> 01:32:03.520 modes of games that do that. For example, when Team 2004 01:32:03.560 --> 01:32:06.960 Fortress had like a tower defense mode, I was all 2005 01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:09.319 in on stuff like that, where other people were like, no, 2006 01:32:09.399 --> 01:32:11.279 I just want to play like regular Team Fortress and 2007 01:32:11.319 --> 01:32:14.159 I was like, you fools, this is super fun to 2008 01:32:14.279 --> 01:32:18.239 like fight hordes and hordes of machines that come through, 2009 01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:20.880 And this is the same for me. It's just it's 2010 01:32:20.920 --> 01:32:24.399 just a silly way to play a totally different style 2011 01:32:24.479 --> 01:32:27.479 of game, and with all the fun guns that you 2012 01:32:27.640 --> 01:32:32.640 enjoy playing, but it's mostly cooperative play is the only 2013 01:32:32.680 --> 01:32:34.439 reason you would enjoy it. If I was by myself, 2014 01:32:34.479 --> 01:32:36.720 I would not play this mode at all. If I 2015 01:32:36.760 --> 01:32:39.000 have three buds, that's all I want to play. 2016 01:32:39.159 --> 01:32:40.840 Yeah, Like, I guarantee you at some point here we 2017 01:32:40.840 --> 01:32:42.600 will do a giant bomb stream where we get four 2018 01:32:42.600 --> 01:32:43.720 of us together and do it, and I'll be like, 2019 01:32:43.760 --> 01:32:45.399 that was a great time. Like you know, even if 2020 01:32:45.399 --> 01:32:47.560 I don't necessarily know every Easter Egg or whatever, it's 2021 01:32:47.920 --> 01:32:49.239 four players, you will have. 2022 01:32:49.119 --> 01:32:52.159 Fun with your friends playing like the zombie mode of 2023 01:32:52.199 --> 01:32:54.439 these games. One hundred percent. It's why they keep making them. 2024 01:32:54.439 --> 01:32:57.439 They're like beloved and they're genuinely like a joy to play. 2025 01:32:58.199 --> 01:33:02.000 Yeah yeah, uh So overall, I can't say enough. I 2026 01:33:02.000 --> 01:33:04.239 normally like a little over halfway through the campaign from 2027 01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:07.520 what I've seen, Mike might have played more. Is it 2028 01:33:08.439 --> 01:33:10.319 just you don't have to say anything in particular obviously, 2029 01:33:10.359 --> 01:33:12.239 but like does it keep getting weird? 2030 01:33:14.439 --> 01:33:17.319 Uh? The research mission? I would say the research facility 2031 01:33:17.520 --> 01:33:20.199 is definitely tonally weird getting weird. 2032 01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:22.880 But can I just say, wouldn't the question me does 2033 01:33:22.920 --> 01:33:23.640 it get weirder? 2034 01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:24.520 Sure? 2035 01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:27.960 Yeah, yeah, because it does not get like tonally as 2036 01:33:28.439 --> 01:33:32.439 it's it calms down tonally. However, you have not seen 2037 01:33:32.600 --> 01:33:35.720 every kind of mission yet, like mission structure. 2038 01:33:36.039 --> 01:33:38.720 See that makes me more excited than anything, because I 2039 01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:40.760 think that is like I'm trying to recall a duty 2040 01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:43.000 campaign is just like it. 2041 01:33:42.960 --> 01:33:47.439 Would if I I don't think you've done there's a 2042 01:33:47.479 --> 01:33:52.680 mission coming up very soon that when you said, it's like, 2043 01:33:52.760 --> 01:33:55.720 it's like mission impossible. This this game to me feels 2044 01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:59.359 like what was I telling a friend? The campaign is 2045 01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:09.000 like if Steven Soderberg and wild things like yeah, exactly, no, 2046 01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:12.960 but there's there's a mission coming up where it's it's 2047 01:34:13.000 --> 01:34:14.880 playing with the structure of what a Call of Duty 2048 01:34:14.920 --> 01:34:17.680 mission is. And then there's another one that takes pretty 2049 01:34:17.680 --> 01:34:21.279 clear inspiration from a series I know you love. Oh okay, 2050 01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:24.479 and that's there's there's those two. I try to remember 2051 01:34:24.520 --> 01:34:26.600 how many are yeah, because it's like an eight hour campaign. 2052 01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:30.399 Is the series twenty four no sorry, video game franchise? 2053 01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:34.039 Okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah, okay. That that's really exciting 2054 01:34:34.039 --> 01:34:36.319 to hear because like, as much as I've liked prior 2055 01:34:36.399 --> 01:34:39.119 Call of Duty campaigns, there'd be variants like oh, here's 2056 01:34:39.159 --> 01:34:41.800 the sniper mission where you're sneaking around and the you know, 2057 01:34:41.880 --> 01:34:43.760 the the ferris wheel or whatever, but like it's still 2058 01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:45.960 you're going from A to B and you're shooting dudes 2059 01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:48.920 with guns. Oh yeah, no, the rest this is totally different. 2060 01:34:48.960 --> 01:34:49.680 Well ick op six. 2061 01:34:50.560 --> 01:34:52.359 I'm trying to even think what the most linear mission 2062 01:34:52.399 --> 01:34:55.159 would have been, like the first the intro probably. 2063 01:34:55.359 --> 01:34:57.560 Yeah, the intro, like yeah, but it's cool how it 2064 01:34:57.600 --> 01:34:59.279 does that because it starts you and just like, okay, 2065 01:34:59.279 --> 01:35:01.760 here you are, You're in kuwait, and uh, this is 2066 01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:04.239 a Call of Duty mission. It's just you know, downside, shoot, 2067 01:35:04.640 --> 01:35:07.600 talk to a guy, he gets shot, whatever, and then 2068 01:35:07.640 --> 01:35:10.079 pretty quickly it's just like all right, here's a totally 2069 01:35:10.479 --> 01:35:12.960 and now for something completely different. You know, it's awesome. 2070 01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:15.399 Yeah, I'm curious what you think about the rest. Uh, 2071 01:35:15.680 --> 01:35:20.880 it's definitely it's it's not just like on Rails missions. 2072 01:35:20.880 --> 01:35:22.359 The rest of the game for sure awesome. 2073 01:35:22.520 --> 01:35:23.960 Okay, I'm all the way in. 2074 01:35:25.680 --> 01:35:27.680 But yeah, Mary, if you get the chance dabble in zombies, 2075 01:35:27.720 --> 01:35:28.840 I'm curious what you think. 2076 01:35:29.239 --> 01:35:31.680 I would like to. It's it's something I always really 2077 01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:34.319 enjoy doing and like that would get me to play 2078 01:35:34.359 --> 01:35:36.800 with friends for sure, Like I would love to play 2079 01:35:36.840 --> 01:35:37.399 that mode. 2080 01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:39.560 I know who were constantly just like, oh we should 2081 01:35:39.560 --> 01:35:41.119 do that for a player for fire Escape, and then 2082 01:35:41.159 --> 01:35:44.800 we find time this should be maybe if this would 2083 01:35:44.840 --> 01:35:45.720 be a good well. 2084 01:35:47.199 --> 01:35:49.199 I mean even for Giant Bomb as well. Dan, Like 2085 01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:50.600 that's the type of thing like give me a ring 2086 01:35:50.640 --> 01:35:54.720 a ding ding Like, yeah, yes. 2087 01:35:57.279 --> 01:35:59.079 You guys play anything else? Mary, you play something? 2088 01:36:00.479 --> 01:36:05.800 I have one more. I played more Nevah. I've really 2089 01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:07.600 really liked it and I just want to say I 2090 01:36:07.960 --> 01:36:13.239 think that it should be played probably before Godie, I 2091 01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:17.439 think it is worth maybe if I'm only allowed to 2092 01:36:17.439 --> 01:36:19.279 put two. I have to think about it a little deeper, 2093 01:36:19.319 --> 01:36:24.880 but like I do think it's just an incredible growth 2094 01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:29.760 from Greed and so now that I've like put more 2095 01:36:29.800 --> 01:36:33.000 time into it, I just think that it has become 2096 01:36:33.319 --> 01:36:39.319 quite a puzzle platformer that is staying in my memory. 2097 01:36:39.840 --> 01:36:43.680 It gets good and so for someone who likes puzzle 2098 01:36:43.680 --> 01:36:47.800 platformers and Dan, I know you like those two, it 2099 01:36:47.960 --> 01:36:52.000 is really well done. And I was heavily impressed by 2100 01:36:52.760 --> 01:36:57.920 especially the secret I don't know flower areas. So like 2101 01:36:58.039 --> 01:37:01.479 essentially there's lots of puzzles and sometimes you'll be like, oh, 2102 01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:03.920 but there looks like there's a little secret up here, 2103 01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:06.000 but it's really hard to get to. And if you 2104 01:37:06.039 --> 01:37:08.239 put in the extra energy to figure out the platform 2105 01:37:08.279 --> 01:37:10.960 puzzle to get up there, there's like a little flower 2106 01:37:11.119 --> 01:37:13.720 that you just get to touch and that's it. But 2107 01:37:13.760 --> 01:37:17.239 it's it pushes the player to be able to get 2108 01:37:17.279 --> 01:37:20.079 to these like secret spaces and you don't have to 2109 01:37:20.079 --> 01:37:22.600 do them, they're all optional, but getting them is like 2110 01:37:22.640 --> 01:37:27.319 a total rush because they're hard to get anyway. I've 2111 01:37:27.520 --> 01:37:29.479 I've found a lot of joy and never and I 2112 01:37:29.479 --> 01:37:32.199 think it is an absolute gem of a game. For 2113 01:37:32.279 --> 01:37:36.319 twenty twenty four. So I just wanted to say, after 2114 01:37:36.439 --> 01:37:40.479 the completion of Never, I think it's an absolute wonderful 2115 01:37:40.479 --> 01:37:42.800 game and I really enjoyed my time with it, and 2116 01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:46.920 I think it's beautiful. I think it's smart and a 2117 01:37:46.960 --> 01:37:51.039 good platformer, and you there's like a fun little wolf 2118 01:37:51.039 --> 01:37:52.840 in there. You can't go wrong. It's probably one of 2119 01:37:52.880 --> 01:37:56.640 the prettiest games of the year. Easy. So do you 2120 01:37:56.720 --> 01:38:01.560 like visual aesthetics? Neva got tho es. Dude, it's so pretty. 2121 01:38:01.640 --> 01:38:04.079 I can't believe how ori it got in this next one, 2122 01:38:04.199 --> 01:38:06.439 and like it's not a metroidveny. I just want to 2123 01:38:06.439 --> 01:38:07.119 set that tone. 2124 01:38:08.239 --> 01:38:09.079 Not at all. 2125 01:38:10.680 --> 01:38:18.199 It's like a limbo with puzzly platformer styles, but aesthetically 2126 01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:21.600 it's so pretty and it has some or stuff like 2127 01:38:21.640 --> 01:38:24.159 for example, like yeah, when you have like run from 2128 01:38:24.239 --> 01:38:26.960 the waves in or like it has that too, or 2129 01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:28.279 it's just like a system where you have to like 2130 01:38:28.359 --> 01:38:31.359 run through a series of obstacles quickly. So I think 2131 01:38:31.359 --> 01:38:34.920 that's neat sequence. Yeah, I think it's great. So that's 2132 01:38:34.960 --> 01:38:36.600 all I wanted to say. It's a short one. I 2133 01:38:36.640 --> 01:38:38.760 just I just think it's I think it's fantastic. I 2134 01:38:38.800 --> 01:38:40.560 was very impressed with it by the time I was 2135 01:38:40.600 --> 01:38:44.760 done with it. But in the homework slot, No, it's 2136 01:38:44.840 --> 01:38:46.880 just if I only get two homework slots. I have 2137 01:38:46.960 --> 01:38:48.920 to be very careful. I have to be very this 2138 01:38:49.000 --> 01:38:50.119 is like a strategic thing. 2139 01:38:51.119 --> 01:38:53.800 I too are Dragon Age, Valguard and metaphor re Fantasio. 2140 01:38:53.880 --> 01:38:56.479 You have to I've been quitting the podcast. 2141 01:38:56.920 --> 01:39:02.159 I haven't played val Guard. I'm eye for what it's worth. 2142 01:39:02.199 --> 01:39:04.239 I'm excited to play vol Guard because it's it sounds 2143 01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:07.039 like it has a strong mass effect to structure vibes, 2144 01:39:07.119 --> 01:39:09.640 which I'm looking forward to. Dan, I'm surprised. So you 2145 01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:11.439 played a Batman VR game. 2146 01:39:12.039 --> 01:39:15.680 Yeah. I just heard some early buzz saying like, oh shit, 2147 01:39:15.800 --> 01:39:17.880 this is this is a real good one. And you know, 2148 01:39:17.960 --> 01:39:21.720 I'd always hoped that like there would VR gaming in 2149 01:39:21.760 --> 01:39:23.920 general would get to a point where it's kind of 2150 01:39:23.960 --> 01:39:27.000 worth like booting up the thing and loading it, like 2151 01:39:27.159 --> 01:39:29.479 filling the battery because just sat in a closet for 2152 01:39:29.479 --> 01:39:33.560 a long time. This is an awesome game. This is 2153 01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:38.119 a worthy of like the Batman Arkham name. It really 2154 01:39:38.279 --> 01:39:42.039 takes all of the feelings. It's not as open world 2155 01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:44.000 as like it's certainly not Arkham City where you have 2156 01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:45.960 this giant map or anything like that. But I think 2157 01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:48.760 most importantly, the combat is there, and I think the 2158 01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:52.159 predator sneaking around, you know, jumping on gargoyle stuff is there. 2159 01:39:53.079 --> 01:39:55.600 It's not perfect because, like I think your instinct is 2160 01:39:55.880 --> 01:39:58.079 you'll get into a fight as Batman and you wanted 2161 01:39:58.079 --> 01:40:01.159 to start throwing you know, fists and everything, and it 2162 01:40:01.239 --> 01:40:03.239 is a little deliberate. It's almost like a lot of 2163 01:40:03.319 --> 01:40:06.199 VR Rhythm games where it's like, okay, a yellow circle 2164 01:40:06.199 --> 01:40:08.039 shows up and that means a straight punch, and then 2165 01:40:08.119 --> 01:40:11.159 it's like an arrow going this way means okay, left punch, 2166 01:40:11.239 --> 01:40:13.439 uppercut this way, So you kind of have to dial 2167 01:40:13.640 --> 01:40:16.279 a combo type thing. You can't just like flail around 2168 01:40:16.279 --> 01:40:18.960 and it works. But once you get used to that, 2169 01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:22.920 it throws in really fun things in the combat where 2170 01:40:22.920 --> 01:40:24.560 it's like, let's say you start punching a guy and 2171 01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:26.640 just the number five shows up in a circle. That 2172 01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:28.840 means you can just throw five punches and do full 2173 01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:31.439 on just Batman, just they're just fucking dude up. And 2174 01:40:31.479 --> 01:40:33.239 then like oh, it'll tell you to like bring both 2175 01:40:33.319 --> 01:40:35.359 arms down and that like takes his head and just 2176 01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:37.079 brings it up into your knee and fucks them up 2177 01:40:38.119 --> 01:40:40.359 in the combat. You know, normally you see a guy 2178 01:40:40.439 --> 01:40:42.319 in the Arkham games and there's like lightning mother head 2179 01:40:42.359 --> 01:40:45.800 and you hit why and you know, counters them. This 2180 01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:47.960 one it shows you that same type of symbol, but 2181 01:40:48.039 --> 01:40:50.560 you just need to move either hand in that direction 2182 01:40:50.880 --> 01:40:53.640 to interrupt their thing and compo. So like you'll be 2183 01:40:53.640 --> 01:40:55.359 beating the shit out of one dude. You see it 2184 01:40:55.399 --> 01:40:57.239 someone coming in from the right. All you do is 2185 01:40:57.279 --> 01:40:59.800 like stick your right hand out and then your perspective changes, 2186 01:41:00.079 --> 01:41:02.359 fucking that dude up. Like all of that stuff works 2187 01:41:02.399 --> 01:41:04.520 really well. You're like sweep in your cape. If you 2188 01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:06.520 hold a trigger and move your hand, it'll like sweep 2189 01:41:06.560 --> 01:41:09.159 the cape to stun them. All of that shit works 2190 01:41:09.199 --> 01:41:11.800 really well. There is a little bit of a learning 2191 01:41:11.800 --> 01:41:13.399 curve is maybe too sphere of a turn, but like 2192 01:41:13.720 --> 01:41:16.760 it takes them getting used to basically, but it all 2193 01:41:16.880 --> 01:41:19.119 kind of makes sense and feels right in the moment. 2194 01:41:19.279 --> 01:41:24.399 And the sneaking around, grapple, hooking around batter rang stuff, 2195 01:41:24.399 --> 01:41:26.000 like the batterraing is on your chest, so you just 2196 01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:28.239 like reach to your chest, you grab it, you throw it. 2197 01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:30.760 Like a lot of R games have that look down 2198 01:41:30.800 --> 01:41:33.800 and grab something a gun or an AMMO cartridge from 2199 01:41:33.840 --> 01:41:36.680 your body, and it doesn't work that well. Here I 2200 01:41:36.880 --> 01:41:39.079 was so rarely like fucking up, like, oh I meant 2201 01:41:39.079 --> 01:41:40.479 to grab a smoke bomb, but I grabbed the batter 2202 01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:43.239 rang Like no, it tracks very well. Like this feels 2203 01:41:43.279 --> 01:41:46.840 like an extremely well made VR game and smart stuff, 2204 01:41:46.840 --> 01:41:48.840 Like to activate the detective mode, you put your hand 2205 01:41:48.920 --> 01:41:50.560 up to your head and you like pull the trigger, 2206 01:41:50.680 --> 01:41:52.199 so like, it's so fun to walk into a room 2207 01:41:52.239 --> 01:41:54.279 and you're trying to find clues and you're like like 2208 01:41:54.319 --> 01:41:57.960 you tap the cow and Batman vision like all that 2209 01:41:58.000 --> 01:42:01.000 shit's really cool. It feels exactly like I would want 2210 01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:04.800 an Arkham game in VR to to feel like, yeah, 2211 01:42:04.960 --> 01:42:07.279 very very impressive. Mean, I might play through this whole game, 2212 01:42:07.319 --> 01:42:09.039 and I don't know if I've ever played through an 2213 01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:12.880 entire VR game, like you know, Half Live Alex included, 2214 01:42:13.119 --> 01:42:14.840 So yeah, loving it. 2215 01:42:14.920 --> 01:42:16.720 What are you playing on specifically a quest? 2216 01:42:16.760 --> 01:42:17.720 It's only on the Quest three? 2217 01:42:18.039 --> 01:42:22.680 Oh okay, gotcha, it's not it's only on the three specifically, Yeah, specifically, I. 2218 01:42:22.640 --> 01:42:27.520 Don't know if it's okay. Yeah, works, works really great. 2219 01:42:27.520 --> 01:42:28.840 I'll try it out in town. 2220 01:42:29.479 --> 01:42:31.720 I saw if I could just be that guy for 2221 01:42:31.760 --> 01:42:35.640 a second. I saw a Reddit post on our Gaming 2222 01:42:35.920 --> 01:42:40.279 about the Batman VR game, and the post was like, 2223 01:42:41.039 --> 01:42:44.239 I thought that I had been able to break the game, 2224 01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:46.920 but the game knew what you know, knew how to 2225 01:42:46.960 --> 01:42:50.079 outsmart me. And so you're Batman and VR and there 2226 01:42:50.079 --> 01:42:52.239 are these bars and all you have to do is 2227 01:42:52.319 --> 01:42:55.439 get your batter rang. Is that what it's called, Yeah, 2228 01:42:55.680 --> 01:42:59.199 your batthrower device, and you have to hit a lever 2229 01:42:59.279 --> 01:43:01.640 on the other side of the Yeah, but there's bars 2230 01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:03.520 in the way, so it's obviously trying to get you 2231 01:43:03.560 --> 01:43:06.359 to figure out a puzzle. But in VR, the guy 2232 01:43:06.520 --> 01:43:12.319 like maneuvered the batter rang in between the bars, you know, physically, 2233 01:43:12.640 --> 01:43:15.479 and he threw it and it hit an invisible wall. 2234 01:43:15.960 --> 01:43:17.359 Oh really okay. 2235 01:43:17.199 --> 01:43:19.800 And so the game had like had a feature to 2236 01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:24.000 prevent you from cheating. But my reaction to that video 2237 01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:27.000 is is like, that's actually a bummer, because if you're 2238 01:43:27.680 --> 01:43:30.920 thoughtful enough to maneuver the battom rang to go in 2239 01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:34.319 between these bars and hit the lever, that should have worked. 2240 01:43:34.600 --> 01:43:37.439 And instead of coming up with a clever in game 2241 01:43:37.520 --> 01:43:40.920 design function, like I don't know, maybe there's a box 2242 01:43:41.680 --> 01:43:44.479 over the lever or something like that. They just put 2243 01:43:44.479 --> 01:43:48.560 an invisible wall, which I think was limiting considering the 2244 01:43:48.560 --> 01:43:51.840 amount of creativity that you would expect someone in VR 2245 01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:54.000 to be able to display in that game. I would 2246 01:43:54.039 --> 01:43:55.680 have liked them to come up with something a little 2247 01:43:55.680 --> 01:43:56.520 bit more interesting. 2248 01:43:57.039 --> 01:43:58.920 Yeah, for real life, if Batman could get his arm 2249 01:43:58.920 --> 01:44:01.159 in there, that would count, you know, I. 2250 01:44:01.119 --> 01:44:03.920 Agree, And like a whole part of the cell of 2251 01:44:04.000 --> 01:44:06.840 VR is that they're selling an immersive experience that you 2252 01:44:06.880 --> 01:44:10.520 get to feel like Batman. And Batman is smart. He 2253 01:44:10.640 --> 01:44:13.560 outsmarts his way out of a lot of situations because 2254 01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:15.800 that's the kind of person he is. And I feel 2255 01:44:15.880 --> 01:44:19.079 like a real Batman in that situation would shove his 2256 01:44:19.800 --> 01:44:22.399 arm through the bars and just dink the batome rag 2257 01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:26.239 into the candle. So I thought that was interesting. 2258 01:44:26.039 --> 01:44:29.359 See Batman being smart. That said, my a lot of 2259 01:44:29.399 --> 01:44:31.239 my joy out of this comes out of being dumb 2260 01:44:31.279 --> 01:44:35.279 ass Batman, where it's just like I'm kicking dudes asses 2261 01:44:35.319 --> 01:44:37.479 and then Batman's just crouch chopping him and stuff, and 2262 01:44:37.520 --> 01:44:39.840 like you can see the cow, you can see like 2263 01:44:39.840 --> 01:44:43.319 you look down, you see you feel like Batman. It's like, uh, 2264 01:44:43.720 --> 01:44:46.479 Professor Gordon, what's this fucking commissioner. Gordon will be like 2265 01:44:46.520 --> 01:44:48.960 talking to you, like showing you this like super serious film, 2266 01:44:49.079 --> 01:44:51.279 and I'm like shoving my finger in Gordon's nose. I'm 2267 01:44:51.279 --> 01:44:53.239 like throwing beer bottles at him, like I'm just like 2268 01:44:53.479 --> 01:44:55.840 asshole Batman, Like it's very fun for me. 2269 01:44:56.760 --> 01:44:59.319 You're still rich, though, so they can't touch you. 2270 01:44:59.399 --> 01:45:01.800 What are they gonna do? Yeah, yeah, even if. 2271 01:45:02.039 --> 01:45:05.159 But whether or not you're smart or stupid, what they 2272 01:45:05.159 --> 01:45:08.359 can't take away from Batman is he's rich as fucking untouchable. 2273 01:45:08.640 --> 01:45:10.399 Yeah, he'll throw a beer bottle at your head. It's fine, 2274 01:45:10.720 --> 01:45:11.039 you can. 2275 01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:11.880 Get away with it. 2276 01:45:12.720 --> 01:45:18.159 I want to try that out at some point. Yeah, 2277 01:45:18.199 --> 01:45:21.319 all right, I think it's all the games. You guys 2278 01:45:21.319 --> 01:45:25.199 want to do some emails, sure, okay. As always, you 2279 01:45:25.199 --> 01:45:29.560 can write into Firescape cast at gmail dot com with questions, comments, concerns. 2280 01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:31.680 Maybe we'll read your questions on the air like a 2281 01:45:31.720 --> 01:45:35.279 couple we have tonight. Also, we'll give you another reminder 2282 01:45:35.520 --> 01:45:37.680 of a few of these things. But if you are 2283 01:45:37.760 --> 01:45:40.159 not a patron and you want to become a patron 2284 01:45:40.199 --> 01:45:43.000 at any point in November, you can sign up at 2285 01:45:43.000 --> 01:45:45.439 any point and then you'll be charged on that day. 2286 01:45:45.640 --> 01:45:48.359 The following month as opposed to the first of every month, 2287 01:45:48.439 --> 01:45:50.920 so it won't screw up your weird subscription or they 2288 01:45:50.960 --> 01:45:54.439 won't do that weird subscription schedule anymore. Just for people 2289 01:45:54.479 --> 01:46:00.479 who haven't signed up yet. Okay, we have our friend, 2290 01:46:00.479 --> 01:46:03.079 doctor Fernando wrote in Dan figured you should be the 2291 01:46:03.079 --> 01:46:04.399 one to read this since you met him. 2292 01:46:04.720 --> 01:46:07.039 Sure, Hello, fire Escape. I was going to wait to 2293 01:46:07.039 --> 01:46:10.800 email until after I watched Dan's recommendation Annette, but after 2294 01:46:10.840 --> 01:46:13.039 the last episode, I realized I should probably check in 2295 01:46:13.359 --> 01:46:15.000 my apologies. I had a busy two weeks went to 2296 01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:17.479 a big medical conference in La full of nerds who 2297 01:46:17.479 --> 01:46:20.239 love infections. They actually had an interesting booth by a 2298 01:46:20.239 --> 01:46:22.960 company called Nerdcore Medical that makes a board game that 2299 01:46:23.000 --> 01:46:25.439 they described as a hybrid between D and D and 2300 01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:29.960 Magic the Gathering, except it's all antibiotics and bacteria designed 2301 01:46:29.960 --> 01:46:33.279 as fantasy characters and creatures. I spent the following week 2302 01:46:33.359 --> 01:46:36.079 negotiating and signing a new job contract and being on 2303 01:46:36.239 --> 01:46:39.000 call at the hospital. So between those events and the 2304 01:46:39.039 --> 01:46:41.840 intermittent poop city Slam of Jamas, I have been busy. 2305 01:46:42.359 --> 01:46:44.319 I had a great time with Dan and Jersey and 2306 01:46:44.399 --> 01:46:47.199 it was refreshing to learn that Mary actually loves the 2307 01:46:47.239 --> 01:46:51.000 soundboard and thinks that Dan is brilliant and private. Dan 2308 01:46:51.119 --> 01:46:54.199 is Wow. Anyway, I'll get back to you soon after 2309 01:46:54.239 --> 01:46:58.439 I watched the movie. Thanks for existing, love, Fernando. Oh, 2310 01:46:58.560 --> 01:47:00.680 thank you so much, doctor Fernande. Oh hell yeah. 2311 01:47:01.359 --> 01:47:04.520 Did you reaffirm that I am not upset in person 2312 01:47:04.680 --> 01:47:05.439 to Fernando? 2313 01:47:06.279 --> 01:47:10.399 What? No, I honestly don't remember that. It was like 2314 01:47:10.560 --> 01:47:12.640 our second bar. I was pretty toasty by the time 2315 01:47:12.640 --> 01:47:14.359 we talked to bullshit. 2316 01:47:14.960 --> 01:47:16.680 First of all, you're a lightweight. You should be able 2317 01:47:16.720 --> 01:47:18.840 to at least go four bars before you're blackout. 2318 01:47:18.920 --> 01:47:25.800 Yeah. Wow, I wouldn't blackout. I was just pussy, pussy pussy. 2319 01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:28.319 Somebody take him home. This guy's at the second bar. 2320 01:47:28.479 --> 01:47:32.960 Can I'm the one that's with the toxic masculinity. Yeah. 2321 01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:34.680 When I blackout, I just go to bars and talk 2322 01:47:34.720 --> 01:47:35.760 to people about a net. 2323 01:47:38.479 --> 01:47:40.039 We just happened to be a fire escape fan. 2324 01:47:40.359 --> 01:47:42.159 Ooh that out of sex thinge in it? That was like, 2325 01:47:42.239 --> 01:47:44.279 not ironic. He was singing into her vagina. 2326 01:47:44.920 --> 01:47:45.840 That sounds ironic. 2327 01:47:46.960 --> 01:47:50.479 No, it's presented very straight. We love each other so much. 2328 01:47:50.640 --> 01:47:53.560 He's singing into her vagina as he's down there doing 2329 01:47:53.560 --> 01:47:54.159 god knows what. 2330 01:47:54.439 --> 01:47:57.920 Oh, I know what he's doing. H he's driving. 2331 01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:03.119 Well, thank you doctor for doctor Fernando's great. Which, by 2332 01:48:03.159 --> 01:48:06.840 the way, Doctor Ryan. So people were trying to nark 2333 01:48:07.079 --> 01:48:09.720 and saying to Doctor Ryan on a giant bomb chat recently, 2334 01:48:09.760 --> 01:48:11.479 like did you see this is virescap said they got 2335 01:48:11.479 --> 01:48:14.560 a new doctor. They got doctor Fernando. Now, no one's 2336 01:48:14.560 --> 01:48:18.359 been replaced, no one's Look, people have numerous doctors. All right, 2337 01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:21.279 Doctor Ryan, My neck's all fucked up. If I got 2338 01:48:21.359 --> 01:48:23.159 questions about that, I know you can fix it up. 2339 01:48:23.199 --> 01:48:25.800 Tell me what's going on. I get a terrible infectious disease. 2340 01:48:26.039 --> 01:48:28.800 Doctor Fernando's got it. Look, you need a whole suite 2341 01:48:28.840 --> 01:48:30.399 of doctors here, and that's what we're building. 2342 01:48:30.479 --> 01:48:35.039 So we got doctor Fernando's. Sounds like you're going to 2343 01:48:35.119 --> 01:48:39.840 an Applebee's. We had to go to doctor Fernando's. It's 2344 01:48:39.880 --> 01:48:42.439 like so good. Their onion rings are out of this world. 2345 01:48:42.560 --> 01:48:45.520 How dare you, besmirts. The good name of doctor Fernando 2346 01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:51.079 is a good man. On the end, doctor Fernando's, you 2347 01:48:51.119 --> 01:48:53.439 know doctor Fernando's, ladies, not on Tuesday. 2348 01:48:54.439 --> 01:48:56.319 Doctor Fernando's does sound like a teeky bar. 2349 01:48:57.760 --> 01:48:58.560 That's a cool name. 2350 01:49:00.039 --> 01:49:01.199 Our Fernando's an awesome name. 2351 01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:04.520 Yeah, doctor Fernandez is a buye one, get one on 2352 01:49:04.600 --> 01:49:05.520 Thursday nights. 2353 01:49:05.720 --> 01:49:07.960 Oh the wings in Doctor Fernando's just out of this world. 2354 01:49:08.119 --> 01:49:13.159 Yeah down there, Dan, Yeah, yeah, thank you. 2355 01:49:13.159 --> 01:49:15.439 Doctor Mary. Do you want to read this one? From 2356 01:49:15.479 --> 01:49:20.039 West from Baltimore. This was a response to Dan his 2357 01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:25.720 cooking spiel last episode. But it's a question for you, said, 2358 01:49:25.840 --> 01:49:26.880 you don't have time to do it? 2359 01:49:27.199 --> 01:49:29.680 Oh right, yeah, hello there. 2360 01:49:30.680 --> 01:49:33.520 I used to hate peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. It 2361 01:49:33.600 --> 01:49:37.039 wasn't until college that I revisited them and realized that 2362 01:49:37.079 --> 01:49:40.520 they are fantastic. I have eaten them regularly since. I 2363 01:49:40.600 --> 01:49:43.680 recently learned that when my mom makes a peepee and jay, 2364 01:49:44.279 --> 01:49:46.960 she makes the wrong decision at every step. This could 2365 01:49:47.000 --> 01:49:51.239 explain my childlike dislike, my childhood dislike of the sandwich 2366 01:49:51.399 --> 01:49:54.720 because her preparation is a travesty. This is how she 2367 01:49:54.800 --> 01:50:00.039 makes it, white bread, grape jelly, smooth peanut butter, and 2368 01:50:00.239 --> 01:50:04.039 ratio of twice as much jelly as peanut butter. How 2369 01:50:04.079 --> 01:50:08.159 do you make your peeb and jay? Thanks Wes from Baltimore. 2370 01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:11.319 Okay, I have thoughts on this? Did I first of all, 2371 01:50:11.319 --> 01:50:13.000 did I mention on crustables on here? Before? 2372 01:50:13.439 --> 01:50:16.720 You have mentioned uncrustables. We've discussed this, Okay, those are 2373 01:50:16.800 --> 01:50:19.720 very good. Bunk made you aware of it? Can I 2374 01:50:19.840 --> 01:50:26.000 just clarify West from Baltimore? You say white bread, grape jelly, 2375 01:50:26.640 --> 01:50:29.920 smooth peanut butter, and ratio of twice as much jelly 2376 01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:33.920 as peanut butter. Does this mean that it is white bread, 2377 01:50:34.159 --> 01:50:38.279 grape jelly, smooth peanut butter, grape jelly? You know what 2378 01:50:38.319 --> 01:50:38.640 I mean? 2379 01:50:40.560 --> 01:50:44.199 You? You just like, is the peanut butter flanked by jelly? Oh? 2380 01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:47.159 No, I don't think she uses a lot of I 2381 01:50:47.159 --> 01:50:48.600 don't think it's not astata. 2382 01:50:48.680 --> 01:50:50.279 There's another piece of white bread on top. 2383 01:50:50.840 --> 01:50:52.720 Yes, oh yeah, he's just saying. 2384 01:50:52.760 --> 01:50:54.880 I think he's saying, like as opposed to like a 2385 01:50:55.000 --> 01:50:57.479 whole week with strawberry jam with. 2386 01:50:59.399 --> 01:51:02.439 You expressive if it was that, I agree with a 2387 01:51:02.479 --> 01:51:06.319 lot of this. Yeah, white bread. No, I like wheat 2388 01:51:06.439 --> 01:51:08.600 whole grain stuff. But specifically you can get like the 2389 01:51:08.680 --> 01:51:11.119 Sarah Lee forty five calorie a slice because like you 2390 01:51:11.159 --> 01:51:13.319 don't want bread, it's like one hundred and twenty calories 2391 01:51:13.319 --> 01:51:14.960 of slice. That's a lot going on there. So I 2392 01:51:15.039 --> 01:51:20.000 got the forty five calorie Sarah Lee stuff wheat jelly. 2393 01:51:20.239 --> 01:51:23.119 I'm new to the jelly world, so I don't have 2394 01:51:23.279 --> 01:51:26.479 feelings about grape versus strawberry or anything. So that's the 2395 01:51:26.520 --> 01:51:28.800 thing I don't really know right now. I think we 2396 01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:31.600 have a thing of sugar free strawberry in the fridge 2397 01:51:31.640 --> 01:51:35.279 and that's what I use. But yeah, smooth peanut butter 2398 01:51:35.359 --> 01:51:37.680 is the wrong one. You do skippy super chunk all 2399 01:51:37.760 --> 01:51:40.520 day and the ratio of twice as much jelly as 2400 01:51:40.520 --> 01:51:44.680 peanut butter. No, you put like eight knifefuls of super 2401 01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:48.039 chunk on one slice. And I know I'm new to jelly, 2402 01:51:48.239 --> 01:51:50.279 but I just kind of get just the slightest just 2403 01:51:50.279 --> 01:51:53.760 like just you're turning that bread purple, just the slightest, 2404 01:51:53.760 --> 01:51:56.079 like the color of jelly is on it, but like, 2405 01:51:56.159 --> 01:51:57.359 no no chunks. 2406 01:51:57.479 --> 01:52:00.600 You know, jelly to jam situation. 2407 01:52:01.039 --> 01:52:03.159 I don't know the difference you mean jelly to peanut 2408 01:52:03.199 --> 01:52:06.319 butter or jelly to jam. Oh, I see you're saying, 2409 01:52:06.359 --> 01:52:07.520 do you use jelly or jam? 2410 01:52:07.560 --> 01:52:11.680 Whether jelly is clear and it's just the essence of fruit. 2411 01:52:11.800 --> 01:52:19.079 It's like the jelly like jam is like gooey goopy 2412 01:52:19.279 --> 01:52:21.520 and you can get fruit chunks in it. 2413 01:52:21.479 --> 01:52:26.119 It's that seems like a lot like when I get salici. 2414 01:52:26.119 --> 01:52:28.079 I don't want chunks. I just want the liquid, you know, 2415 01:52:28.159 --> 01:52:30.880 so I think I want the same thing with those 2416 01:52:31.600 --> 01:52:33.000 liquid liquid. 2417 01:52:33.239 --> 01:52:36.279 Well, no, that's a whole other conversation. Salsa chunks are 2418 01:52:36.680 --> 01:52:39.880 going to be firmer. To Mary's point, I just want 2419 01:52:39.880 --> 01:52:42.960 the wet red Yeah. I mean there might be like 2420 01:52:43.119 --> 01:52:45.880 some like collection of fruit, but you can smooth them out. 2421 01:52:45.720 --> 01:52:48.199 In my damage. I could do with that sound bite. 2422 01:52:50.600 --> 01:52:51.000 Try me. 2423 01:52:53.159 --> 01:52:59.800 I so what the six freak side of it already is? Yeah, 2424 01:52:59.800 --> 01:53:02.720 I I go like a whole wheat with like the 2425 01:53:02.760 --> 01:53:05.840 oats around the crust. I like yeah, I like yeah. 2426 01:53:05.880 --> 01:53:07.479 I think it's like a I think there's there's like 2427 01:53:07.479 --> 01:53:08.760 a lumberjack on the bag. 2428 01:53:10.520 --> 01:53:12.399 There's the one with the guy that was in jail, 2429 01:53:12.640 --> 01:53:13.960 Dave's crazy jailbread. 2430 01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:15.439 I don't think so. 2431 01:53:15.680 --> 01:53:17.359 No, the whole gimmick is like it says on the 2432 01:53:17.399 --> 01:53:19.119 thing like this dude was in jail and now he 2433 01:53:19.159 --> 01:53:19.640 makes bread. 2434 01:53:19.720 --> 01:53:20.319 That's awesome. 2435 01:53:20.680 --> 01:53:23.079 No, do you not know what I'm talking about? Jail bread? 2436 01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:26.920 Hang on jail bread brand. I think it's just Dave's 2437 01:53:27.000 --> 01:53:27.640 Killer Bread. 2438 01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:31.960 It's not be called jail bread. It's called Dave's Killer Bread. 2439 01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:34.720 And I don't think it's actually about him going to jail. 2440 01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:36.760 It's just that the bread is so good. 2441 01:53:37.039 --> 01:53:41.560 No, it is called killer Bread on their website after products. 2442 01:53:41.640 --> 01:53:44.439 No, this is Dave's Killerbread dot com. And right next 2443 01:53:44.479 --> 01:53:47.520 to products there's Second Chance Employment. And it's this whole 2444 01:53:47.560 --> 01:53:49.479 thing about like, hey, you've been to jail, we'll get 2445 01:53:49.479 --> 01:53:51.279 out and come make some bread. It's all. 2446 01:53:52.079 --> 01:53:55.159 But that's not him making that's not him making. 2447 01:53:55.079 --> 01:53:57.520 Jail killer because he's a murderer who got out. 2448 01:53:57.640 --> 01:53:59.239 This sounds like they do, and like they run a 2449 01:53:59.239 --> 01:54:03.600 program where they and have rehabilitated, rehabilitated prisoners coming. That's 2450 01:54:03.600 --> 01:54:04.039 what I'm saying. 2451 01:54:04.079 --> 01:54:05.359 I didn't say he was a murderer. 2452 01:54:05.680 --> 01:54:07.279 I didn't say you said he's murdered. I said that. 2453 01:54:07.359 --> 01:54:09.520 You said he made the bread in jail and it 2454 01:54:09.560 --> 01:54:10.279 got famous. 2455 01:54:10.680 --> 01:54:16.680 Well that's not right. So okay, I'm there's all about 2456 01:54:16.720 --> 01:54:17.600 us page and everything. 2457 01:54:17.800 --> 01:54:18.159 He went to. 2458 01:54:18.239 --> 01:54:21.760 Murdering day and he killed a bunch of guys, but 2459 01:54:22.840 --> 01:54:25.119 really good bread. So we used to call him Dave 2460 01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:26.039 the Killer. 2461 01:54:27.279 --> 01:54:29.159 Of Jail because the bread was so good. 2462 01:54:29.840 --> 01:54:32.920 He went to prison for fifteen years. That's not you know, 2463 01:54:33.159 --> 01:54:34.479 stealing a Skittles. 2464 01:54:34.119 --> 01:54:37.039 Bag many women. But his bread is dope. 2465 01:54:37.439 --> 01:54:39.640 I'm certain why did Dave Bread go to jail? 2466 01:54:40.399 --> 01:54:42.720 Kamala Harris, pardon him because his bread was so good? 2467 01:54:45.039 --> 01:54:49.159 Okay? He served over fifteen years in prison for drug distribution, burglary, 2468 01:54:49.359 --> 01:54:54.239 armed robbery and assaults in Portland. Oh wow, Mary, what 2469 01:54:54.359 --> 01:54:58.520 is this quite the rap sheet? It's a bunch of 2470 01:54:58.880 --> 01:55:01.960 bread making criminals your town. 2471 01:55:02.880 --> 01:55:05.319 I'm glad he found something to do with his life. 2472 01:55:05.840 --> 01:55:09.880 No good for him. I like rehabilitation system. I'm just 2473 01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:13.279 dying at the idea that like you called it Dave's 2474 01:55:13.399 --> 01:55:18.720 jail bread, and I do I really will say like like, 2475 01:55:18.840 --> 01:55:21.920 when you say Dave's killer bread, my thought is like, oh, 2476 01:55:21.960 --> 01:55:24.520 that sounds like delicious bread. But when you're like, this 2477 01:55:24.520 --> 01:55:26.079 is a guy who got in a prison and his 2478 01:55:26.199 --> 01:55:28.399 name is Dave the Killer's Bread. 2479 01:55:28.520 --> 01:55:31.840 But that's the gimmick, it takes such a dark turn. 2480 01:55:33.079 --> 01:55:35.399 Oh he gotta rested. Wait, he got arrested in Portland 2481 01:55:35.439 --> 01:55:38.560 for ramming patrol cars. Oh this is years ago. 2482 01:55:38.640 --> 01:55:40.319 This sounds like the coolest guy I've ever heard. 2483 01:55:40.359 --> 01:55:42.159 It's off it's on the Portland to separ addit. 2484 01:55:43.079 --> 01:55:45.159 He was just ramming into police cruisers. 2485 01:55:45.960 --> 01:55:50.000 Yeah bye, And I did not know this lore. 2486 01:55:50.479 --> 01:55:53.000 Oh my god. Although he's no longer using methampetam and 2487 01:55:53.000 --> 01:55:55.520 that he'd been smoking pot, snorting coke and drinking heavily, 2488 01:55:55.800 --> 01:55:58.239 I do not think the fame and success of Dave's 2489 01:55:58.279 --> 01:56:00.680 Killer Bread had a great impact on it. He spend 2490 01:56:00.720 --> 01:56:04.039 money on fancy cars and flashy things. Wow, this is 2491 01:56:04.039 --> 01:56:06.479 a Reddit thread, so this is all allegedly What is 2492 01:56:06.520 --> 01:56:06.840 the what. 2493 01:56:07.039 --> 01:56:10.159 Is when is the Adam McKay biopek about this guy 2494 01:56:10.319 --> 01:56:15.439 coming who's playing Dave Kill Michael sinkerl Oh my god, 2495 01:56:15.520 --> 01:56:19.960 I forgot to tell you guys. Holy shit, Michael Shannon's 2496 01:56:20.000 --> 01:56:23.560 the actor, are you guys fans? Yeah, he's like one 2497 01:56:23.560 --> 01:56:27.239 of my favorite actors. And I swear to god. Amanda 2498 01:56:27.239 --> 01:56:29.840 and I were sitting at this dive bar. I'm not 2499 01:56:29.840 --> 01:56:31.399 going to say exactly where. I don't want to blow 2500 01:56:31.439 --> 01:56:33.680 it up, but it was near our wedding venue and 2501 01:56:33.720 --> 01:56:35.800 we were killing time because our wedding venue invited us 2502 01:56:35.840 --> 01:56:38.800 back for an anniversary dinner. And we're sitting at the 2503 01:56:38.840 --> 01:56:40.399 best dive bar in the world, the best bar in 2504 01:56:40.399 --> 01:56:43.479 New York and as we sit down, I look over 2505 01:56:43.520 --> 01:56:45.319 I was like, that guy looks like Michael Shannon from 2506 01:56:45.319 --> 01:56:48.319 the side, and then he turned around, like, oh my god, Amanda, 2507 01:56:48.359 --> 01:56:50.399 that's Michael Shannon. We didn't bother him. We never do. 2508 01:56:50.479 --> 01:56:54.399 They've got shit to do. But I discovered that Michael Shannon, 2509 01:56:54.439 --> 01:56:56.520 one of my favorite actors, goes to one of my 2510 01:56:56.560 --> 01:56:58.560 favorite bars, and he used to live in like my 2511 01:56:58.560 --> 01:57:00.239 favorite neighborhood in New York. 2512 01:57:01.039 --> 01:57:02.760 It's crazy, but. 2513 01:57:02.840 --> 01:57:04.560 He would be good as I feel like he would 2514 01:57:04.640 --> 01:57:06.560 be a good Like google Michael Shannon if you haven't 2515 01:57:06.560 --> 01:57:08.359 seen him a while, he would be a good killer. 2516 01:57:08.439 --> 01:57:09.920 Dave bread Maker. 2517 01:57:09.680 --> 01:57:13.600 Well, I'm still googling Dave jail here, and it's like, 2518 01:57:13.960 --> 01:57:15.880 I hope I'm not being too harsh on it, because like, 2519 01:57:15.880 --> 01:57:18.399 it does sound like, Okay, he had a ramming police 2520 01:57:18.399 --> 01:57:20.520 cars episode about eleven years ago. 2521 01:57:20.880 --> 01:57:22.000 Yeah, fucking but it. 2522 01:57:21.920 --> 01:57:24.920 Does seem it does seem like. No, he looks like 2523 01:57:24.960 --> 01:57:26.840 a man who's trying to better himself and makes him 2524 01:57:26.840 --> 01:57:30.880 bread and he can't can't fault a man for that. No. 2525 01:57:31.039 --> 01:57:34.479 He sold his bread in twenty fifteen for two hundred 2526 01:57:34.520 --> 01:57:41.199 and seventy five million dollars Jesus bread. I gotta learn 2527 01:57:41.199 --> 01:57:43.479 how to make bread. You gotta go to jail to jail. 2528 01:57:43.359 --> 01:57:49.560 Yeah, except instead of police and try and run a 2529 01:57:49.560 --> 01:57:51.479 couple of them over, I'm gonna. 2530 01:57:51.199 --> 01:57:52.920 Go punch a cop and learn how to make bread. 2531 01:57:53.560 --> 01:57:54.000 There you go. 2532 01:57:54.760 --> 01:57:57.359 That's the the first two steps of the three steps 2533 01:57:57.399 --> 01:58:04.640 of success. Third one is profit. Yeah, fucking make that money. 2534 01:58:05.199 --> 01:58:10.000 Oh anyway, I do the lumberjack bread, and then I 2535 01:58:10.039 --> 01:58:14.600 do peanut butterwich crunchy peanut butter, and then I do 2536 01:58:14.760 --> 01:58:17.439 like a raspberry preserved jam that has seeds in it. 2537 01:58:17.520 --> 01:58:20.479 Still like that's when you get the real taste. My 2538 01:58:20.720 --> 01:58:23.199 ratio is two to one peanut butter to jelly. The 2539 01:58:23.279 --> 01:58:26.079 jelly jam. The jam, in my opinion, is just there 2540 01:58:26.079 --> 01:58:28.199 to add that little bit of sweetness in acidity, because 2541 01:58:28.239 --> 01:58:30.279 otherwise the peanut butter is going to become overpowering and 2542 01:58:30.319 --> 01:58:34.880 fatty in your mouth and the like. To me, the 2543 01:58:34.920 --> 01:58:37.359 peanut butter is there more for texture and like mouthfeel. 2544 01:58:37.920 --> 01:58:40.840 The jam is there to cut through that with acidity 2545 01:58:40.960 --> 01:58:44.920 and fruity flavor, and like some sweetness, peanut butter is to. 2546 01:58:44.840 --> 01:58:47.640 Hold it all or sorry. The killer bread is so 2547 01:58:47.680 --> 01:58:50.239 that you know you can bite it without getting your 2548 01:58:50.279 --> 01:58:51.199 fingies all sticky. 2549 01:58:51.319 --> 01:58:53.640 Yeah, I'm still learning because I feel like I have 2550 01:58:53.720 --> 01:58:57.039 had five to ten thousand peanut butter sandwiches that were 2551 01:58:57.159 --> 01:58:59.840 just a ton of chunky peanut butter and nothing else. 2552 01:59:00.000 --> 01:59:02.840 I've done that. Like maybe I've maybe had fifteen peanut 2553 01:59:02.840 --> 01:59:03.880 butter and jelly sandwiches. 2554 01:59:04.720 --> 01:59:06.880 I've had a lot of peanut butter only sandwiches. I 2555 01:59:06.920 --> 01:59:09.279 will say, though, like I think as a concept, a 2556 01:59:09.319 --> 01:59:12.600 peanut butter and jelly sandwich exists because it works much better. 2557 01:59:12.479 --> 01:59:14.960 It does itself. I get it. Does anyone have just 2558 01:59:15.039 --> 01:59:15.880 jelly sandwiches? 2559 01:59:16.359 --> 01:59:19.159 Probably well, Jelly on toast is very popular. 2560 01:59:19.159 --> 01:59:20.239 I think, oh yeah, that is good. 2561 01:59:20.279 --> 01:59:23.359 Yeah, I go for that over My stomach does not 2562 01:59:23.439 --> 01:59:26.039 love butter that early in the morning, so I go 2563 01:59:26.800 --> 01:59:29.359 with like a jam also raspberry if I can get 2564 01:59:29.359 --> 01:59:31.439 a hands on it, but strawberry is a close second. Great. 2565 01:59:31.640 --> 01:59:35.439 Some time I go to like an American diner, usually 2566 01:59:35.840 --> 01:59:41.119 your meat, hash browns and eggs comes with toast and 2567 01:59:41.239 --> 01:59:44.399 they serve it with some jelly and you slap a 2568 01:59:44.399 --> 01:59:46.239 little bit of jelly on a piece of toast and 2569 01:59:46.279 --> 01:59:48.119 eat it with your breakfast. I do that every time. 2570 01:59:48.159 --> 01:59:53.399 I consider it like the sweet dessert of my diner breakfast. Right, 2571 01:59:53.439 --> 01:59:56.199 It's like the sweetest that it gets, and it's really good, 2572 01:59:56.439 --> 02:00:00.960 So I consider that the equivalent of a peanut but sandwich. 2573 02:00:01.479 --> 02:00:04.199 I also don't to West's point, I'm not a grape 2574 02:00:04.279 --> 02:00:07.640 jelly fan, like really didn't. 2575 02:00:08.439 --> 02:00:09.880 BlackBerry is really cool. 2576 02:00:09.880 --> 02:00:12.039 I'm only you have in my grapes one way, and 2577 02:00:12.039 --> 02:00:15.079 that's if they're grown in Burgundy, made in the cellars 2578 02:00:15.079 --> 02:00:18.800 at Albert Davilan at d r C fucking put three 2579 02:00:18.880 --> 02:00:22.680 years in barrel, aged twelve years in glass and Mary, can. 2580 02:00:22.520 --> 02:00:24.199 You can you break his fingers this time? 2581 02:00:28.079 --> 02:00:31.000 You guys? Every time you guys made me laugh. My 2582 02:00:31.319 --> 02:00:32.800 laugh is so meaty. 2583 02:00:33.399 --> 02:00:35.319 I haven't heard its cutting the mic out. 2584 02:00:35.439 --> 02:00:40.079 I haven't heard any of your laughter this time. Yeah, 2585 02:00:40.199 --> 02:00:42.520 we West get your mom right. 2586 02:00:43.880 --> 02:00:44.760 It's just like. 2587 02:00:48.239 --> 02:00:50.199 I don't know if it's on the recording. We can't 2588 02:00:50.199 --> 02:00:57.359 hear her laughing. It's like, whoez we can see you? Yeah, 2589 02:00:57.359 --> 02:00:59.920 I see coffin fuck. 2590 02:01:02.039 --> 02:01:03.640 Anyway, PB and J's are great. 2591 02:01:04.600 --> 02:01:07.079 Tell your mom to write in Wes with that that 2592 02:01:07.159 --> 02:01:07.720 sounded weird. 2593 02:01:07.840 --> 02:01:10.199 I meant like I don't want to hear from Wes's mom. 2594 02:01:10.479 --> 02:01:15.760 Yeah, missus Wes. Uh Miss West? Sorry, okay, all this 2595 02:01:15.800 --> 02:01:20.640 last one? Uh maybe Miss West. I don't know, Miss 2596 02:01:20.640 --> 02:01:24.880 West write in about your PB and J stories. All right, 2597 02:01:25.159 --> 02:01:27.399 this last one. I don't read this whole thing. Actually 2598 02:01:27.479 --> 02:01:29.319 I did cut some from this, but I do think 2599 02:01:29.319 --> 02:01:31.800 I need to read else. High Fire Escape. Your Gody 2600 02:01:31.840 --> 02:01:33.960 episodes inspired me to start a movie club that I 2601 02:01:34.039 --> 02:01:36.840 run with about thirty friends and acquaintances called the Buzzies. 2602 02:01:37.279 --> 02:01:38.760 We meet at the end of the year discuss the 2603 02:01:38.760 --> 02:01:40.840 movies that we watched that year by nominating films for 2604 02:01:41.000 --> 02:01:43.439 ridiculous categories. There's way too many of us to come 2605 02:01:43.479 --> 02:01:46.079 to a consensus per category, so instead we just share 2606 02:01:46.079 --> 02:01:48.600 our personal picks and nominations. By the end of the night, 2607 02:01:48.640 --> 02:01:51.560 Trevor film has the most nominations across all categories, wins 2608 02:01:51.720 --> 02:01:54.600 Buzziest Film of the Year, and everyone gets to leave 2609 02:01:54.680 --> 02:01:57.520 the new list of recommended movies check out. A lot 2610 02:01:57.520 --> 02:01:59.960 of our categories are directly inspired by your Goady categories. 2611 02:02:00.039 --> 02:02:01.920 Film most up its own ass, for example, but we 2612 02:02:01.960 --> 02:02:03.960 also have some of our own categories that we're really 2613 02:02:04.000 --> 02:02:06.520 proud of, like film with the best performance that's too 2614 02:02:06.520 --> 02:02:09.960 good for the movie it's in that's good film that 2615 02:02:10.000 --> 02:02:13.000 you think about the most, or film with the most 2616 02:02:13.079 --> 02:02:15.920 toxic relationship, or film you were most surprised to love. 2617 02:02:17.560 --> 02:02:19.680 That last one's good. Yeah, well, I mean a bunch 2618 02:02:19.720 --> 02:02:21.239 of those were, but I like that last one because 2619 02:02:21.279 --> 02:02:24.279 I did not expect to love fucking Prince of Persia Metrivania, 2620 02:02:24.800 --> 02:02:26.840 Which brings me to my next question. What are some 2621 02:02:26.920 --> 02:02:30.199 ridiculous movie award categories you were submit if you were 2622 02:02:30.239 --> 02:02:33.199 a card carrying member of the Buzzies With love from 2623 02:02:33.239 --> 02:02:36.840 Austin Bobby aka your actual biggest fan in Texas. 2624 02:02:37.199 --> 02:02:38.239 Wow, fast explosion. 2625 02:02:38.920 --> 02:02:41.439 I want to car a card if we do this, 2626 02:02:41.600 --> 02:02:44.520 card carrying member of the Buzzy. Oh yeah, all right, 2627 02:02:44.640 --> 02:02:45.800 let's let's write these down. 2628 02:02:46.960 --> 02:02:48.479 Explosion, best explosion? 2629 02:02:50.279 --> 02:02:52.279 Well what makes it? What's the best explosion? 2630 02:02:52.479 --> 02:02:54.840 Click exploded? That's not big but it's awesome. 2631 02:02:55.399 --> 02:02:58.600 Yeah, it depends on how big the dick is. You 2632 02:02:58.680 --> 02:02:59.159 know what I mean? 2633 02:02:59.399 --> 02:03:04.479 Yeah, I mean that's like fucking nukes, but like, yeah, 2634 02:03:04.760 --> 02:03:08.760 not everybody has this. 2635 02:03:08.800 --> 02:03:11.279 Is it the Oppenheimer nuke or the dick explosion? 2636 02:03:11.560 --> 02:03:14.079 With small explosions over here? You know what I mean? 2637 02:03:14.439 --> 02:03:15.960 What if? What if? What if? What if? What if 2638 02:03:16.119 --> 02:03:19.119 the Oppenheimer nuke had blown his dick off during that test? 2639 02:03:19.600 --> 02:03:22.159 Would that movie would have been a very different turn 2640 02:03:22.359 --> 02:03:23.319 tone in the rest of the movie. 2641 02:03:23.399 --> 02:03:27.479 Yeah, whoa, you should have cut to that because there's this, 2642 02:03:27.680 --> 02:03:31.520 oh there's a non ironic sex scene an Oppenheimer. He's 2643 02:03:31.640 --> 02:03:34.159 reading I Am Become Death while the lady's on top 2644 02:03:34.159 --> 02:03:36.760 of him, and then like what if they're both getting 2645 02:03:36.760 --> 02:03:40.720 into it? And then cut explosion And it's symbolic and 2646 02:03:40.720 --> 02:03:41.640 that's like a metaphor. 2647 02:03:42.359 --> 02:03:44.640 And Einstein comes out at the very end of the 2648 02:03:44.640 --> 02:03:46.520 film and goes up to that guy and goes, did 2649 02:03:46.560 --> 02:03:48.039 you see that guy blow his dick off? 2650 02:03:48.199 --> 02:03:48.439 Yeah? 2651 02:03:48.520 --> 02:03:57.600 Yeah, I said we're all gonna get laid. Yeah what exactly? Yeah, 2652 02:03:58.359 --> 02:03:59.319 anyway you want? 2653 02:03:59.640 --> 02:04:10.560 That's got the dire straight song at the end of 2654 02:04:10.600 --> 02:04:12.359 Oppenheim would be really disrespectful. 2655 02:04:18.159 --> 02:04:21.840 I think best sex scene should be in there talking 2656 02:04:21.840 --> 02:04:25.239 about it all episode. So like it makes sense to 2657 02:04:25.319 --> 02:04:30.239 be like, which movie has like a really good, like 2658 02:04:30.399 --> 02:04:33.439 horny scene. And it can be because it's funny, or 2659 02:04:33.439 --> 02:04:35.760 it can be because it's sincere. That's irrelevant. The most 2660 02:04:35.760 --> 02:04:38.119 important thing is that it's just in your opinion, it's 2661 02:04:38.119 --> 02:04:39.720 like that sex scene is awesome. 2662 02:04:40.039 --> 02:04:42.560 Yeah, best boobs best boobs. 2663 02:04:42.600 --> 02:04:45.920 Yeah, that can be connected, but maybe not the best 2664 02:04:45.960 --> 02:04:46.439 sex scene. 2665 02:04:46.520 --> 02:04:47.199 No, that's separate. 2666 02:04:47.520 --> 02:04:52.000 Best bad guy death, best bad guy, best main bad 2667 02:04:52.079 --> 02:04:54.279 guy death, and best henchman death. 2668 02:04:55.600 --> 02:04:58.039 He thought of you, dude, and then I thought of 2669 02:04:58.079 --> 02:05:00.800 hospender dead at the age of who the fuck cares? 2670 02:05:01.239 --> 02:05:04.439 That's probably I forgot. I haven't logged into my Activision 2671 02:05:04.479 --> 02:05:06.079 accounting forever and I was trying to log in for 2672 02:05:06.079 --> 02:05:07.760 Call of Duty. I forgot I was hostbender. 2673 02:05:09.640 --> 02:05:14.920 H I assume I probably do this, but I think 2674 02:05:14.960 --> 02:05:17.439 it's nice to do like best one liner or like 2675 02:05:17.520 --> 02:05:21.319 some kind of like one off just thing that someone 2676 02:05:21.399 --> 02:05:25.199 says that everyone thinks is memorable from that movie, and 2677 02:05:25.279 --> 02:05:27.920 you judge it based on the line, not based off 2678 02:05:27.960 --> 02:05:29.880 of the film. So like, if you take the film 2679 02:05:29.880 --> 02:05:33.159 out of it, is that line like fucking god damn 2680 02:05:33.279 --> 02:05:34.960 good line that's worth knowing? 2681 02:05:35.479 --> 02:05:40.800 Yeah, I got one worst CG moment that's. 2682 02:05:40.600 --> 02:05:42.960 Good, fucking alien what's it called? 2683 02:05:44.680 --> 02:05:49.039 Oh fuck yeah, Yeah, that's a contender. That's here. 2684 02:05:49.079 --> 02:05:50.600 Everybody talks about it. 2685 02:05:52.039 --> 02:05:56.880 The best late title card or what about latest title card? 2686 02:05:56.640 --> 02:05:59.159 What is an example of that that? Like, is there 2687 02:05:59.159 --> 02:06:01.560 a recent one I mean, I know there are a lot, 2688 02:06:01.600 --> 02:06:02.520 but I'm trying to think of a. 2689 02:06:04.560 --> 02:06:06.399 I can't think of a notorious one right now. 2690 02:06:07.039 --> 02:06:09.239 Well, oh, you know what movie I have qued up 2691 02:06:09.239 --> 02:06:11.840 for like the weekend because we're not doing anything is Dread. 2692 02:06:12.720 --> 02:06:13.880 Oh have you seen it? 2693 02:06:14.119 --> 02:06:14.279 No? 2694 02:06:14.359 --> 02:06:15.840 But I've heard a lot of people like say it's 2695 02:06:15.840 --> 02:06:17.119 their cult classic favorite. 2696 02:06:17.199 --> 02:06:19.119 It's a good time. You're talking about the Carl Urban one. 2697 02:06:19.079 --> 02:06:20.359 Right your ridge? 2698 02:06:20.439 --> 02:06:24.720 Yeah, No, the remake from twenty fifteen or something like that. 2699 02:06:24.880 --> 02:06:29.159 Not the Stalone one. No. Oh yeah, that one's not great. 2700 02:06:30.279 --> 02:06:31.359 That's the only one I've seen. 2701 02:06:32.039 --> 02:06:32.920 Oh, the Stallone one. 2702 02:06:33.000 --> 02:06:33.199 No. 2703 02:06:33.199 --> 02:06:35.399 No, The Carl Urban One's fucking awesome. And Lena Hetty 2704 02:06:35.439 --> 02:06:37.600 from Game of Thrones is the bad guy in it. 2705 02:06:37.600 --> 02:06:38.920 It's so good. 2706 02:06:39.960 --> 02:06:44.279 I just kind of had a buzzy idea like best 2707 02:06:44.439 --> 02:06:48.159 video game, or sorry, best best movie that has structured 2708 02:06:48.199 --> 02:06:50.399 like a video game. Like I just thought of running Man. 2709 02:06:50.560 --> 02:06:52.199 I was like, that might as well be a video game. 2710 02:06:52.239 --> 02:06:54.960 Are there enough though, for like a category for a year? 2711 02:06:55.039 --> 02:06:55.239 You know? 2712 02:06:55.760 --> 02:06:56.960 Oh right, it has to be for a year. 2713 02:06:57.000 --> 02:07:00.800 I'm thinking of at it's not like an all time thing. Yeah. 2714 02:07:00.840 --> 02:07:02.720 God, I really did not see many movies this year. 2715 02:07:03.800 --> 02:07:10.680 Uh yeah, I could do like least accurate biopic. I 2716 02:07:10.720 --> 02:07:13.319 feel like there was just so many biopics and someone's 2717 02:07:13.359 --> 02:07:15.760 like this kind was an asshole? What are we doing here? 2718 02:07:16.920 --> 02:07:17.079 Oh? 2719 02:07:17.159 --> 02:07:19.720 Like were they like whitewash him and make it seem 2720 02:07:19.760 --> 02:07:21.640 like he was actually not so bad after all? 2721 02:07:21.840 --> 02:07:22.039 Yeah? 2722 02:07:22.119 --> 02:07:23.399 Or even it could be something like you know, like 2723 02:07:23.439 --> 02:07:25.800 Beheaming Rhapsody, which you know was well received, but it 2724 02:07:25.880 --> 02:07:27.880 was like, this is not accurate in a lot of ways. 2725 02:07:28.800 --> 02:07:29.840 Did I see what you're saying? 2726 02:07:32.039 --> 02:07:35.520 It's like how Elvis fucking Baz Luhrman's came out, and 2727 02:07:35.560 --> 02:07:40.199 then Sophia Coppola's why the hell am I blanking on 2728 02:07:42.840 --> 02:07:46.800 his wife's name, Priscilla? Priscilla, thank you the movie's name? 2729 02:07:46.840 --> 02:07:49.359 It very clearly I took a lot away from both 2730 02:07:49.399 --> 02:07:55.079 of those. Saltburne was last year, right, Yeah, God, I 2731 02:07:55.119 --> 02:07:56.479 really did not see many movies this year. 2732 02:07:57.560 --> 02:08:01.680 What about like a genre bender? It's really interesting when 2733 02:08:01.760 --> 02:08:07.439 like a movie that's meant to be scary is funny, right, 2734 02:08:07.520 --> 02:08:10.159 and so it like kind of messes with you, or 2735 02:08:10.439 --> 02:08:13.479 a movie that's meant to be funny takes like a 2736 02:08:13.520 --> 02:08:14.239 serious turn. 2737 02:08:14.840 --> 02:08:17.239 I don't know if this movie is meant to be 2738 02:08:17.279 --> 02:08:19.359 funny or not. Do you guys know anything about this 2739 02:08:19.439 --> 02:08:22.800 Terrifier series a little bit, so you know that it's 2740 02:08:22.800 --> 02:08:25.000 like Terrifier three was like the biggest movie, like in 2741 02:08:25.000 --> 02:08:25.720 the country. 2742 02:08:26.039 --> 02:08:28.399 The tomato score is off the charts. 2743 02:08:28.479 --> 02:08:28.680 I know. 2744 02:08:28.920 --> 02:08:30.720 I had not seen any of them. I was at 2745 02:08:30.760 --> 02:08:34.760 a Halloween party on Saturday and they put Terrifier one 2746 02:08:35.119 --> 02:08:36.840 on the thing, and it was like a nice like 2747 02:08:36.880 --> 02:08:38.720 background thing, like, Okay, it seems like another Like oh, 2748 02:08:38.720 --> 02:08:41.159 maybe it's like it it's like a killer clown thing. Sure, 2749 02:08:41.239 --> 02:08:44.000 I swear. There's like a ten minute scene spoilers for 2750 02:08:44.039 --> 02:08:44.920 the first Terrifier. 2751 02:08:45.239 --> 02:08:47.319 Wait, I don't know if I want to see a sport. 2752 02:08:47.359 --> 02:08:48.800 I don't know if I want to spoil it for. 2753 02:08:48.840 --> 02:08:50.720 The first I don't want to spoil it. But there 2754 02:08:50.800 --> 02:08:53.680 is a long scene where everybody started like looking over 2755 02:08:53.680 --> 02:08:56.079 for the screen, like, oh my god, this is the 2756 02:08:56.079 --> 02:08:59.000 most horrifying thing I have ever seen. It's like practical 2757 02:08:59.079 --> 02:09:02.159 effects and it's like it keeps going and it shows 2758 02:09:02.279 --> 02:09:11.960 a lot and it is unbelievably gruesome. Yes, Mary, Mary, 2759 02:09:11.960 --> 02:09:15.359 take it off. Watched Mike's reaction as I describe this. Okay, Okay, Mike. 2760 02:09:15.560 --> 02:09:17.720 He takes these party girls home from a bar and 2761 02:09:17.760 --> 02:09:20.720 he yeah, he ties one to a chair, he's a 2762 02:09:20.760 --> 02:09:23.640 clown man. He takes the other one and straps her 2763 02:09:23.720 --> 02:09:25.920 upside down to like a wooden thing with her legs 2764 02:09:26.000 --> 02:09:28.319 up like this in the air, and then he takes 2765 02:09:28.359 --> 02:09:30.800 a hack saw and she's completely naked. Does he just 2766 02:09:30.800 --> 02:09:34.079 full on just naked lady upside down, legs spread in 2767 02:09:34.079 --> 02:09:36.560 the air and making her friend watch as he's got 2768 02:09:36.560 --> 02:09:40.000 a hacksaw, starts at the vagina, and it's just like 2769 02:09:40.159 --> 02:09:42.479 right right, right, right, right, right right right. It goes 2770 02:09:42.520 --> 02:09:45.960 all the way through. He says, like like bloods all 2771 02:09:45.960 --> 02:09:48.880 over his face, like her intestines all fall out on 2772 02:09:48.920 --> 02:09:51.239 the ground and everything, and he just goes all the 2773 02:09:51.279 --> 02:09:54.720 way through, saws through her head, goes from vagina to skull, 2774 02:09:55.159 --> 02:09:58.720 saw her in half, and it is long and shows 2775 02:09:59.000 --> 02:10:01.960 all of it. It fucking insane, and it's just like 2776 02:10:02.000 --> 02:10:03.479 at this party, it's like we're also like. 2777 02:10:03.479 --> 02:10:06.159 A mid conversation, Who's who put this movie on at 2778 02:10:06.159 --> 02:10:06.640 a party? 2779 02:10:07.399 --> 02:10:08.760 You used to live at their place? 2780 02:10:10.359 --> 02:10:19.800 Really? They were they You're good? Uh, but they were 2781 02:10:19.840 --> 02:10:22.640 they aware that I don't know, I don't know anything 2782 02:10:22.640 --> 02:10:23.239 about the story. 2783 02:10:23.239 --> 02:10:26.159 I don't know it went from Halloween to that. I'm like, Halloween, 2784 02:10:26.560 --> 02:10:28.239 it's course, and then it was that It's like, what 2785 02:10:28.279 --> 02:10:29.159 the fuck I thought you. 2786 02:10:29.199 --> 02:10:31.159 Were gonna say, like Hanson put it on just to 2787 02:10:31.159 --> 02:10:31.840 fuck with people. 2788 02:10:32.000 --> 02:10:34.119 No, Hanson was right next to me, and we're like, 2789 02:10:34.119 --> 02:10:35.039 what the fuck is this? 2790 02:10:35.680 --> 02:10:36.880 Jesus Christ? 2791 02:10:37.119 --> 02:10:39.399 It was insane. It ever, that was the first one 2792 02:10:39.640 --> 02:10:42.239 I've heard. It gets more insane as the series goes on. 2793 02:10:42.399 --> 02:10:44.119 So holy, so it's. 2794 02:10:43.960 --> 02:10:47.079 Like it's, you know, exploitation, kind of like Gore. That's 2795 02:10:47.079 --> 02:10:48.600 why people are seeing three so much. 2796 02:10:49.159 --> 02:10:52.159 But it seems like, like like Mary mentioned the Rotten Tomatoes, like, 2797 02:10:52.199 --> 02:10:52.840 it seems. 2798 02:10:52.600 --> 02:10:54.920 Like people like the high score. 2799 02:10:55.239 --> 02:10:56.840 Yeah, Like I kind of thought like, oh, this is 2800 02:10:56.880 --> 02:10:59.479 gonna be some hostile torture point. 2801 02:10:59.520 --> 02:11:02.680 Thing perspective of this is is every Halloween, I always 2802 02:11:02.720 --> 02:11:05.279 watch a horror movie almost every day. So I watch 2803 02:11:05.319 --> 02:11:08.199 like thirty one horror movies in the month of October. 2804 02:11:08.239 --> 02:11:10.000 I enjoy it. It's like something I always get into. 2805 02:11:10.239 --> 02:11:12.279 And towards the end of the month, aka right now, 2806 02:11:12.680 --> 02:11:15.680 I struggle to find a horror movie that I haven't 2807 02:11:15.720 --> 02:11:18.640 already seen, and so I was looking up best horror movies, 2808 02:11:18.840 --> 02:11:22.279 and Terrifier three is one of the highest rated horror movies, 2809 02:11:22.439 --> 02:11:26.039 but unfortunately I googled do you have to see Terrifier 2810 02:11:26.079 --> 02:11:28.600 one in two in order to see three? And generally 2811 02:11:28.600 --> 02:11:30.960 the consensus is you really should see the first two 2812 02:11:31.039 --> 02:11:35.039 because apparently they like come into play in the third one, 2813 02:11:35.199 --> 02:11:37.960 And then the Rotten Tomato scores of one and two 2814 02:11:38.000 --> 02:11:40.600 are really low. Plus a lot of the reviews are 2815 02:11:40.640 --> 02:11:43.439 straight up like one is is just a straight up 2816 02:11:43.479 --> 02:11:47.039 gore fest, And that's my least favorite type of horror movie. Okay, 2817 02:11:47.079 --> 02:11:48.680 it's not that I won't watch it. I'm not like 2818 02:11:48.760 --> 02:11:53.800 anti anything really, but to me, just watching someone get 2819 02:11:53.840 --> 02:11:58.880 tortured and like just watch like gore is a little exhausting, 2820 02:11:59.079 --> 02:12:01.359 whereas like what I really like is like the fear 2821 02:12:01.439 --> 02:12:02.399 of what's going to happen. 2822 02:12:02.640 --> 02:12:02.880 Yeah. 2823 02:12:02.920 --> 02:12:05.479 I I've never been a horror guy. And that's why, 2824 02:12:05.560 --> 02:12:07.319 like when people ask my favorite horror movie, I always 2825 02:12:07.319 --> 02:12:08.760 go with the Shining and that feels like a cop 2826 02:12:08.760 --> 02:12:10.600 out because it's like, well, this is a real ass movie. 2827 02:12:10.600 --> 02:12:12.720 This is the Kubrick movie, you know, Jack Nicholson, Like 2828 02:12:12.720 --> 02:12:15.079 this is a real in psychological horror type stuff. Like 2829 02:12:15.159 --> 02:12:18.159 I I appreciate like Halloween stuff like that, but I've 2830 02:12:18.199 --> 02:12:20.600 never seen Friday at Thirteenth, never seen Nightmare on Elm Street. 2831 02:12:20.640 --> 02:12:23.119 Like I've just never really been drawn to that stuff. 2832 02:12:23.840 --> 02:12:25.560 But I'm with you, Like I remember seeing Saw and 2833 02:12:25.680 --> 02:12:27.560 Hostile in the theaters when they came out, and those 2834 02:12:27.560 --> 02:12:29.439 were big things, and like I didn't like them. It 2835 02:12:29.479 --> 02:12:31.840 was just like I feel like we're just doing like, yeah, 2836 02:12:31.880 --> 02:12:33.600 of course, it's it's shooting fish in a barrel, making 2837 02:12:33.600 --> 02:12:36.159 people squirm by like showing someone's like achilles heel getting 2838 02:12:36.199 --> 02:12:38.159 split open and stuff like that, you know, or like 2839 02:12:38.159 --> 02:12:39.720 I got a stringe, I got a bear trap on 2840 02:12:39.720 --> 02:12:40.000 my head. 2841 02:12:40.159 --> 02:12:42.960 You know, yeah, one hundred percent. Uh, those are to 2842 02:12:43.039 --> 02:12:46.159 me sometimes they feel not always I don't like get 2843 02:12:46.199 --> 02:12:49.079 like too AGGRESSI about it, but sometimes they can feel 2844 02:12:49.119 --> 02:12:52.439 a little lazy to me. Sure it's a hostile did 2845 02:12:52.479 --> 02:12:56.600 this to me the movie Hostile, which is like at 2846 02:12:56.640 --> 02:13:00.199 some point they were just torturing people, and I was like, 2847 02:13:00.359 --> 02:13:03.199 but the fear of it is out. I'm just watching 2848 02:13:03.239 --> 02:13:06.319 someone be tortured. To me, it's the cat and mouse 2849 02:13:06.359 --> 02:13:08.720 game or the who done it of it that is 2850 02:13:08.760 --> 02:13:11.560 the most exciting part. Or how is this happening, Like 2851 02:13:12.039 --> 02:13:15.479 how how do you get out of this situation? Is 2852 02:13:15.600 --> 02:13:19.520 very interesting to me, So yeah, I get it. I 2853 02:13:19.520 --> 02:13:20.319 don't think it's for me. 2854 02:13:20.800 --> 02:13:22.800 Yeah, I cannot speak to the movie at all. I 2855 02:13:22.800 --> 02:13:24.680 mean it's like I couldn't even like really hear most 2856 02:13:24.720 --> 02:13:28.800 of it. I just like that scene people noticed, so yeah, 2857 02:13:29.319 --> 02:13:30.720 it's not like we sat and watched it. I just 2858 02:13:30.760 --> 02:13:33.199 saw that and I was like, that's the most fucked 2859 02:13:33.239 --> 02:13:35.079 up thing I think I've ever seen in a horror movie. 2860 02:13:35.239 --> 02:13:41.840 Just yeah, I think like going back to like the thing, 2861 02:13:41.920 --> 02:13:43.960 I was, well, I don't know if this is connected. 2862 02:13:44.000 --> 02:13:46.560 It's like, to me, what makes a good horror movie 2863 02:13:46.720 --> 02:13:49.199 is when it has a really intriguing plot, and yes 2864 02:13:49.239 --> 02:13:52.560 there are horror elements to it, but maybe even without it, 2865 02:13:52.560 --> 02:13:55.840 it's just like it's so interesting, the concept of what 2866 02:13:55.880 --> 02:13:58.920 you're going to do next is so consuming that it's 2867 02:13:58.960 --> 02:14:00.640 worth it even if it's a little scary or if 2868 02:14:00.680 --> 02:14:02.960 there's like some supernatural elements. A good example of that 2869 02:14:03.079 --> 02:14:05.359 is like from Dusk until Dawn, oh right, which is 2870 02:14:05.399 --> 02:14:08.399 like so fucking good, and it is a horror movie, 2871 02:14:08.439 --> 02:14:10.680 like a lot of people die, it's got some gore, 2872 02:14:10.960 --> 02:14:13.720 it's like pretty scary, half. 2873 02:14:13.560 --> 02:14:16.399 A Tarantino movie and half like a gory vampire movie. 2874 02:14:16.520 --> 02:14:19.560 It's fucking great, right, Like, it's super engaging, you want 2875 02:14:19.560 --> 02:14:22.720 to know what happens next, it's sexy. Whew. I also 2876 02:14:22.800 --> 02:14:24.800 think it's genre bending, it's funny, it's got some good 2877 02:14:24.880 --> 02:14:27.439 humor elements in it. But yeah, it's got vampires and 2878 02:14:27.479 --> 02:14:31.279 like people die and so like that's like peak for me, 2879 02:14:32.760 --> 02:14:34.479 So I get it. I don't know if that's for me. 2880 02:14:34.520 --> 02:14:36.199 I'm glad you brought that up, Like, I just don't. 2881 02:14:36.359 --> 02:14:38.239 I was like kind of after I saw the Rotten 2882 02:14:38.239 --> 02:14:40.880 Tomato squirrels, like, I guess I'm supposed to watch this now, 2883 02:14:40.960 --> 02:14:43.880 but like, if it's a gore fest, that's really not 2884 02:14:44.000 --> 02:14:47.720 my jam. Yeah, yeah, I think get reviewed so high. 2885 02:14:48.640 --> 02:14:52.680 No, I've just been reading plot points from all three 2886 02:14:52.680 --> 02:14:55.359 of them for the past few minutes and it's just, yeah, 2887 02:14:55.399 --> 02:14:56.159 it doesn't. 2888 02:14:57.479 --> 02:14:59.359 Sounds sounds like a lot. Yeah. 2889 02:14:59.399 --> 02:15:05.680 Well, Bobby, I'm gonna put best terrifyers that you have 2890 02:15:05.760 --> 02:15:15.279 to watch all three? Which one got you? Guys? Tell 2891 02:15:15.359 --> 02:15:18.560 us which one is the best one to watch? 2892 02:15:21.079 --> 02:15:25.119 All right? Well, thank you for writing in, Bobby Wes 2893 02:15:25.319 --> 02:15:30.560 and doctor Fernando. All Right, uh, well, that's your episode. 2894 02:15:30.600 --> 02:15:32.800 As usual. You can ran the fire scapecast at gmail 2895 02:15:32.840 --> 02:15:36.199 dot com. Next episode will be Game of the Year. 2896 02:15:36.600 --> 02:15:40.399 That seems impossible. I have Extra Life this weekend coming up, 2897 02:15:40.640 --> 02:15:43.800 and that's crazy to think. We also, so I got 2898 02:15:43.840 --> 02:15:46.359 all those guys flying in for Extra Life and then 2899 02:15:46.560 --> 02:15:48.840 very quickly I have all you flying in, so well 2900 02:15:48.840 --> 02:15:50.840 we'll watch the betting and everything. So uh you know, 2901 02:15:50.840 --> 02:15:56.319 we'll get all the grub and minati. That's so yeah. 2902 02:15:57.479 --> 02:15:58.319 Yeah, that'll be sad. 2903 02:15:58.479 --> 02:16:01.279 Change the mattresses, well, it'll clip them. 2904 02:16:01.359 --> 02:16:03.359 Yeah, we'll have the episode. 2905 02:16:03.760 --> 02:16:10.800 He's gonna get Disney all over it. Disney Magic is 2906 02:16:10.800 --> 02:16:11.439 what he calls it. 2907 02:16:11.680 --> 02:16:22.119 Yeah, Disney Adult, that's what he does. November sixteenth. It's 2908 02:16:22.159 --> 02:16:26.640 gonna be our live show Saturday, November sixteenth. 2909 02:16:25.720 --> 02:16:29.279 Not live show, live show in place stage. 2910 02:16:30.359 --> 02:16:33.120 Okay, that's gonna be our live stream Game of the Year, 2911 02:16:33.440 --> 02:16:38.239 Game of the Air live stream. Happy. Yeah, it's all right, 2912 02:16:38.399 --> 02:16:42.920 it's a live we'll post were live streaming. 2913 02:16:43.799 --> 02:16:47.440 Yeah, the whi which okay, wait, so we got to 2914 02:16:47.559 --> 02:16:49.040 hammer this down now. So it's going to be on 2915 02:16:49.079 --> 02:16:53.520 the YouTube, the fire Escape YouTube after the fact. Yes, 2916 02:16:53.559 --> 02:16:55.000 So if you want to watch the bod check out 2917 02:16:55.040 --> 02:16:58.040 the fire escape YouTube and are we just doing my 2918 02:16:58.319 --> 02:17:01.879 Twitch channel or are we making one between now and then? 2919 02:17:02.000 --> 02:17:03.440 For fires should probably make one. 2920 02:17:04.079 --> 02:17:08.079 Yeah, yeah, would we get? Would get as many people 2921 02:17:08.159 --> 02:17:12.840 watch sausages made folks, I mean the brand new Twitter 2922 02:17:12.920 --> 02:17:14.120 account or Twitch account. 2923 02:17:14.200 --> 02:17:15.760 I think the people are gonna watch. You're gonna watch 2924 02:17:15.799 --> 02:17:18.000 it regardless of which channel it's on. But we can 2925 02:17:18.079 --> 02:17:19.959 talk more about that and then we'll figure. Keep an 2926 02:17:19.959 --> 02:17:23.440 eye on our social If you don't follow us on Instagram, Twitter, go. 2927 02:17:23.559 --> 02:17:25.840 Check Twitch, dot tv slash. 2928 02:17:26.159 --> 02:17:32.600 Dave's killer Bread, David jail Bread. Probably Dave's murderous bread. 2929 02:17:33.319 --> 02:17:35.559 He used to be a murderer, but now he makes 2930 02:17:35.760 --> 02:17:38.959 bread and fucking he was richer than you. 2931 02:17:39.280 --> 02:17:42.280 He fucking hit police with his car and now he's batman. 2932 02:17:44.000 --> 02:17:46.879 He does he does have batman money now. But yeah, 2933 02:17:46.959 --> 02:17:49.120 keep an eye on our socials so you could see 2934 02:17:49.440 --> 02:17:52.840 the specifics. But yeah, it'll be Saturday, November sixteenth, and 2935 02:17:52.879 --> 02:17:56.120 then the breakout recording for the video will be in 2936 02:17:56.120 --> 02:17:58.680 our YouTube channel after that on Monday, but we'll also 2937 02:17:58.799 --> 02:18:03.639 just have the audio up on Monday. As episode ninety four. 2938 02:18:04.879 --> 02:18:06.959 I gotta look back and see whether we counted Game 2939 02:18:07.000 --> 02:18:09.040 of the Year as like a numbered episode last I 2940 02:18:09.079 --> 02:18:10.840 know we did. I know we put it up as 2941 02:18:10.879 --> 02:18:12.959 as like at the usual time, but I got to 2942 02:18:13.000 --> 02:18:16.120 see if we this is just for my edification afterwards, 2943 02:18:16.159 --> 02:18:18.760 so we know, so we don't like do episode one 2944 02:18:18.840 --> 02:18:21.120 hundred a week early or late. 2945 02:18:21.479 --> 02:18:23.040 Yeah, I think we count it. 2946 02:18:23.120 --> 02:18:27.280 Yeah, okay, and then yeah, like I said, if you 2947 02:18:27.360 --> 02:18:29.559 are not a patron yet and you want to become 2948 02:18:29.600 --> 02:18:33.600 a patron because you want to be ready for all 2949 02:18:33.639 --> 02:18:34.959 of the Game of the Year stuff and all of 2950 02:18:34.959 --> 02:18:38.120 our end of the year stuff and bonus episodes, we'll 2951 02:18:38.159 --> 02:18:40.120 find time to make a couple of those. We really 2952 02:18:40.159 --> 02:18:42.879 need it, yes, because we owe it to the people. 2953 02:18:43.239 --> 02:18:44.760 Were there, we said, Eco Point Nova. What was the 2954 02:18:44.799 --> 02:18:45.840 other one that would be good. 2955 02:18:45.799 --> 02:18:51.760 Called Duty Zombies. Oh yeah. You will not have to 2956 02:18:51.879 --> 02:18:56.239 pay the subscription price for Patreon on the first of 2957 02:18:56.319 --> 02:19:00.680 every month. If you sign up, let's say November fourteenth, 2958 02:19:00.799 --> 02:19:03.079 you'll get charged on December fourteenth, if you haven't been 2959 02:19:03.079 --> 02:19:06.600 a patron before. That is new for us because it 2960 02:19:06.639 --> 02:19:09.879 has just traditionally charged everybody on the first every month, 2961 02:19:09.879 --> 02:19:12.440 which is annoying. If you subscribed on the thirty first 2962 02:19:12.440 --> 02:19:14.000 of the previous month, that you get charged twice in 2963 02:19:14.040 --> 02:19:17.840 a row. That'll give you ad free episodes, or our 2964 02:19:18.000 --> 02:19:21.000 video tier and give you access to bonus episodes, or 2965 02:19:21.040 --> 02:19:22.479 if you just want to treat it like a tip Jargs. 2966 02:19:22.479 --> 02:19:25.319 You appreciate what we do. Every dollar helps. The Game 2967 02:19:25.360 --> 02:19:27.280 of the Year show is possible at the end of 2968 02:19:27.319 --> 02:19:31.559 the year largely because of patrons, so we appreciate I 2969 02:19:31.600 --> 02:19:36.079 appreciate all the patronage there. Outside of that, you could 2970 02:19:36.079 --> 02:19:38.159 also go to Firescape Merch dot com if you want 2971 02:19:38.159 --> 02:19:41.280 to get some merch and wear it and tweeted us, 2972 02:19:41.399 --> 02:19:44.399 or maybe we can like repost something on Instagram around 2973 02:19:44.399 --> 02:19:47.239 Game of the Year people wearing their stuff, get people 2974 02:19:47.319 --> 02:19:50.760 jacked up, get amped for the Game of the Year show. 2975 02:19:51.920 --> 02:19:53.559 I'm gonna be wearing some fire skate merch on the 2976 02:19:53.559 --> 02:19:56.040 show for sure. Outside of that, Dan, what do you 2977 02:19:56.040 --> 02:19:57.879 have going on apart from Firescape? 2978 02:19:58.559 --> 02:20:01.319 Check out Giant Bomb. We have our Game of the 2979 02:20:01.399 --> 02:20:04.000 Year stuff coming up. We've got Giant Bomb at Night 2980 02:20:04.040 --> 02:20:07.159 coming up around the Game Awards, so stay tuned and 2981 02:20:07.200 --> 02:20:09.200 all that stuff. We'll have the couch set up grub 2982 02:20:09.280 --> 02:20:13.680 interviewing a rotating cast of industry personalities. So yeah, and 2983 02:20:13.680 --> 02:20:14.959 then we'll have our Game of the Year stuff over 2984 02:20:15.000 --> 02:20:18.520 there as well. So yeah, check out giant Bomb, follow 2985 02:20:18.559 --> 02:20:21.079 me on Twitch. Hope do more streaming in the near 2986 02:20:21.120 --> 02:20:24.520 future here And that's about it, Mary, What about you. 2987 02:20:25.680 --> 02:20:29.680 The usual twitchy things. I'm still streaming on Mondays, except 2988 02:20:29.680 --> 02:20:32.680 this week because I was too sick, but I usually 2989 02:20:32.719 --> 02:20:37.319 do try and going live on Twitch also just to 2990 02:20:37.360 --> 02:20:41.600 talk about you know, twitch stuff on Twitch, very twitch 2991 02:20:42.200 --> 02:20:44.799 stuff going on over here. What are you doing, Mike? 2992 02:20:45.959 --> 02:20:47.879 Just Firescape get ready for the Game of the Year. 2993 02:20:48.559 --> 02:20:51.280 Got some travel coming up, although I'm done for like 2994 02:20:51.319 --> 02:20:53.159 two weeks, which is awesome because this is the first 2995 02:20:53.159 --> 02:20:55.680 two weeks we don't have to travel in several months. 2996 02:20:55.920 --> 02:20:56.639 It's a good feeling. 2997 02:20:56.680 --> 02:20:58.719 It's gonna use it to catch up on the eight 2998 02:20:58.840 --> 02:21:01.639 video games I need to play before just so I 2999 02:21:01.639 --> 02:21:06.639 have ammunition, or I'll just finish metaphor no, I'm kidding. 3000 02:21:06.680 --> 02:21:08.040 I'll do my homework for a Game of the Year 3001 02:21:08.879 --> 02:21:11.319 as usual. Thank you everybody for joining for episode ninety three. 3002 02:21:11.360 --> 02:21:13.319 We will be back in two weeks with our Game 3003 02:21:13.360 --> 02:21:15.959 of the Year episode on November sixteenth. That's gonna be 3004 02:21:16.000 --> 02:21:19.200 the actual live stream, but again, if you happen to 3005 02:21:19.399 --> 02:21:21.120 miss it, for whatever reason, will be up as a 3006 02:21:21.120 --> 02:21:25.159 normal episode on November eighteenth. We're excited earlier in the 3007 02:21:25.239 --> 02:21:28.639 year that we usually do, just because things are getting 3008 02:21:28.680 --> 02:21:33.000 crazy later in December. And yeah, we're looking forward to it. 3009 02:21:33.040 --> 02:21:35.879 I can't wait for Aster about to get number nine. 3010 02:21:38.200 --> 02:21:39.840 To each to their own. 3011 02:21:40.520 --> 02:21:42.479 You just got really heated for a second. 3012 02:21:42.479 --> 02:21:45.239 I could tell I'm breaking pencils in both hands right now. 3013 02:21:46.360 --> 02:21:49.200 You're sawing yourself down the middle starting. 3014 02:21:50.360 --> 02:21:55.079 Yeah, No, don't worry, Mary, were to anything. 3015 02:21:54.920 --> 02:21:58.159 No, I'll tell you this. 3016 02:21:58.280 --> 02:21:59.360 So I asked for about reference. 3017 02:21:59.440 --> 02:22:02.639 I did not. I had my headphones off and I 3018 02:22:02.680 --> 02:22:05.719 saw this and I saw yeah, yeah, And I'm not 3019 02:22:05.760 --> 02:22:06.680 a fucking idiot. 3020 02:22:06.799 --> 02:22:12.239 No, Yeah, it could be anything. If I didn't realize 3021 02:22:12.239 --> 02:22:15.239 as a whole, there's a whole, there's a whole. 3022 02:22:16.600 --> 02:22:19.280 You really, who's just a mime with that man? He 3023 02:22:19.440 --> 02:22:20.360 kind of a clown mime? 3024 02:22:21.399 --> 02:22:23.239 Know what this means? 3025 02:22:23.280 --> 02:22:25.600 What does it mean? Mary? You're so smart? 3026 02:22:26.159 --> 02:22:31.680 He saw a person in half. Their legs probably are 3027 02:22:31.719 --> 02:22:32.360 their arms. 3028 02:22:32.639 --> 02:22:36.520 That's not all the details. It's a murky. It seems 3029 02:22:36.520 --> 02:22:37.799 like it's a murky for you. 3030 02:22:37.799 --> 02:22:40.399 You didn't hear how long it was or what how 3031 02:22:40.440 --> 02:22:41.239 he sounds low. 3032 02:22:41.280 --> 02:22:42.840 He was my headphones off ten minutes. 3033 02:22:44.200 --> 02:22:45.920 Yeah, he didn't really tell her everything. 3034 02:22:46.120 --> 02:22:48.920 There are some cut details you don't know. 3035 02:22:49.760 --> 02:22:52.079 Oh, like her titties were flapping in the wind when 3036 02:22:52.079 --> 02:22:52.639 it was happening. 3037 02:22:52.719 --> 02:22:57.000 Well, that does happen. Although I didn't say it, that 3038 02:22:57.120 --> 02:22:58.239 absolutely happens. 3039 02:22:58.280 --> 02:23:01.159 I didn't realize the whole, wicked, very specific thing happens. 3040 02:23:01.520 --> 02:23:03.959 There's a whole Wikipedia entry for death by sawing from 3041 02:23:03.959 --> 02:23:05.159 like click to. 3042 02:23:05.280 --> 02:23:06.760 When I was looking at the Wikipedia, it's like, Wow, 3043 02:23:06.799 --> 02:23:08.879 they people did this for Shoot, that's fucking crazy. 3044 02:23:09.559 --> 02:23:11.840 It's like being drawn and quartered. That's fucked up too. 3045 02:23:12.040 --> 02:23:14.520 Yeah, it seems like people just did shitty things back then. 3046 02:23:14.600 --> 02:23:16.680 I'm glad that doesn't happen as much. 3047 02:23:18.120 --> 02:23:18.920 All the time. 3048 02:23:19.040 --> 02:23:23.639 Dan or pulled apart by horses. I think that might 3049 02:23:23.680 --> 02:23:25.680 have been apocryphal. I also could be very wrong and 3050 02:23:25.680 --> 02:23:27.520 that might have actually happened. I don't know. 3051 02:23:27.959 --> 02:23:29.079 They should stop doing that. 3052 02:23:29.120 --> 02:23:30.239 We just have guns now. 3053 02:23:30.959 --> 02:23:33.639 Yeah, that seems better. I don't know. 3054 02:23:35.399 --> 02:23:41.040 All right, Thanks for everybody, Dan, While, while we're on 3055 02:23:41.079 --> 02:23:43.799 the way out, what do you think of immigration and 3056 02:23:44.239 --> 02:23:51.239 the NRA supporter? Dan Reiker sign, I had no idea 3057 02:23:51.319 --> 02:23:52.600 that you were such a cardoon. 3058 02:23:54.120 --> 02:23:58.440 Between drawing and quartering and sawing people in half by 3059 02:23:58.440 --> 02:24:02.200 their privates, guns seem like a better way to go 3060 02:24:02.440 --> 02:24:05.239 if I had to choose one of the three, That's 3061 02:24:05.280 --> 02:24:11.000 all I'm saying, rather not have any of them. 3062 02:24:11.239 --> 02:24:12.920 You've obviously never been shot in the dick. 3063 02:24:13.799 --> 02:24:16.920 That sounds bad, too, well, it all sounds. 3064 02:24:16.760 --> 02:24:18.719 You should have thought about that before you joined the 3065 02:24:18.840 --> 02:24:19.040 n RA. 3066 02:24:19.079 --> 02:24:20.520 A Oh, dear. 3067 02:24:22.399 --> 02:24:25.680 By the next episode. See for Game of the Year.