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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the fire Escape Cast. It

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is episode ninety three. I'm Mike Mahardy here as always

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with Dan Rikert.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Mary Kish, Hello.

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Speaker 1: And my cat Daisy decided to come intro. Oh my god,

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I was gonna move her mouth me, Michael Wow.

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Speaker 2: For the audience. For those who aren't on the video feed,

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that is just a cat speaking into a microphone. You

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won't know if I'm lying unless you joined the Patreon

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on the video gotch.

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Speaker 3: I love Amanda more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not a lie. She's You're not far off

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they all do.

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Speaker 3: I mean she said it.

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Speaker 1: Diazy has become I don't know if I've told you that.

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She just decided like two weeks ago to become a

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lapcat at five years old.

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Speaker 2: As animals get older, I think you can see there's

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like we see it with like Razor, just getting like

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a little more chill or a little different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that happens. It happens with people. When you

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get older, you get different, right, that's what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I forget what five is in cat years, because

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cat years isn't just seven years like dogs. It's it's

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like way more at first, but then when they're older.

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Each year is oh not human years. So what does

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it say for five year old cats? How old is she? Well?

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Speaker 2: Google AI says, it's just the thing at the top.

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It's the quickest thing, right. The first year. Okay, here's

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from Purina. Okay, this is from.

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Speaker 3: Purina dot com the source.

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Speaker 2: Look the second thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cat chat real Okay.

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Speaker 2: The first year of your cat's life is considered the

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equivalent of fifteen human years. Yeah, second year adds nine,

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so two cat years are twenty four human years. After this,

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each additional human year is four cat years. So age

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three would be twenty eight. So thirty six, yeah, thirty six,

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so they're thirty six. They're like they're our age now.

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And now she's decided to cuddle on my lap. I'm

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not thirty six, but might as well be. And she

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just like started doing it.

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Speaker 1: I think the colder weather also is you know, they

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need me for heat sometimes, but it's.

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Speaker 3: Really cut a laptop me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you sound like shit. By the way, what's wrong,

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I'm sick. I'm just clearing the air before I'm sick.

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Speaker 2: Very what do you got? What do you say?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it's not it's not the big one

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tested tested. That's for death, big true, that's true. I

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like grossly overestimated the power of COVID. Yeah, it's it's

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I'm not dying and I don't have anything like severely

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wrong with me. But I did have a fever two

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days ago, and I broke it yesterday, and I think

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now I'm just like recuperating ye old voice. Also, sometimes

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I'm just tired, and sometimes what I think I'm gonna

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say in my brain comes out terribly after it's come out,

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I think it's happening right now.

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Speaker 2: That's why you don't put things in your brain first,

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you just haven't come out your head. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Dan's filter is a like reverse osmosis, where he

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says stuff and then it goes back into his brain

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and then he evaluates it after it's been said a

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few seconds ago.

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Speaker 2: That happens when I'm listening to like, somebody will say

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something to me and I'll go like yeah, and I

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won't understand what they said, and then I'll respond, and

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then I'll think about what they said and be like, oh,

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that's what they said, but I've already said yeah or

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laughed or something. It's kind of a problem.

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Speaker 1: I hesitate to bring this up. I'm not gonna go

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to specifics because I do it like no, no, no, no.

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It involves like person like people we know, and I'm

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not going to say names. But Dan, you made a

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you Bianca and Amanda and I we went out to

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dinner like two weeks ago, and you said a joke

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that at the time you made it comparison. At the

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time that was like, I was like that that was

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pretty funny. But then like that night in bed, I

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was like, that was really fucking funny. I should have

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laughed harder.

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Speaker 2: No joke you're talking about it? Yeh, very funny, you

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know how like you got a laugh from another friend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. It was the end of the day.

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I was having I have a lull at like five

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pm every day, and you you know, we saw you

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right around then. But it's kind of like when you

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are laying in bed going over something embarrassing that happened

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that day, I like had an epiphans I should have

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left so much harder at that joke. Dan told me

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it was really I need to know it was impressive.

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Speaker 2: Well can I just take the laugh now?

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Speaker 1: That?

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Speaker 2: Oh good?

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Speaker 1: That was good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take you. Look at all. All's forgiven. We're good. No, no, no, Hey,

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I'm the one who told the joke. Mary, I get

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to have the final verdict on this.

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Speaker 3: I think that's sad for you.

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Speaker 2: Then, I liked Mike's joke earlier about how Mary's voice

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is hoarse because she was cheering too loud in Madison

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Square Garden recently. I thought that was fun. That's my

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laugh for that one.

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Speaker 1: That's the kind of joke I make before we record, right,

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people don't hear it, Dan Oh, I mean Vinny Vinnie

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hopped in the zoom and said that, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: These are really funny. These are really funny jokes.

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Speaker 1: I like how the butt of the joke changes every

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episode so far. It's been a lot to marry a

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Jake special yep. Although then I became about the joke

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and you changed Jake dot Org.

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Speaker 3: Going back that because you weren't fast enough.

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Speaker 1: That was a really fun joke.

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Speaker 2: Jake won that round you.

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Speaker 3: So Jake won that around you.

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Speaker 2: Hmm.

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Speaker 3: I'm not smart enough to defend myself right now because

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I have sick. What's the problem here is that you

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guys are picking on someone who doesn't have the full

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capacity of their brain. And I think that says more

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about you than it does about me, who is a

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victim in this situation. I am doing my best to

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keep up, but it takes me a little longer to

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retort and call you what you are. In these situations,

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I have to think about it, process it, and by

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the time I usually come up with a really nice,

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witty comeback, the moment has passed and I just have

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to be quiet.

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Speaker 2: Well, the question, you know, we're typically drinking during this show,

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and that impairs speed and reflexes and things like that.

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So do you feel like sober and sick is slower

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than not sick? And if you drinks in.

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Speaker 3: Oh not me, honey, alcohol only improves the speed in veracity.

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Speaker 1: There's mouse there's like a drink count or.

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Speaker 3: Like Bomber's peak for sure, what does Bomber's peak like?

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Notorious for engineers or like essentially coders who would drink

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because it improves your creativity, your flexibility, and your curiosity

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to a certain degree. And so people who were like programming.

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It's like an old comics you can look it up.

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Speaker 2: But like, is this Steve Baumber thing that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the comic is depicting essentially like a bunch of

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programmers who are at Bomber's peak, and so it's making

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them really creative and really interesting and they're writing amazing code.

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But the problem is is that you can never maintain

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Bomber's peak because you drink too much and then you

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pass out, and so it's it's a fallacy, like you

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can't maintain it.

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Speaker 2: Sweet spot. There is a sweet spot with like I

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have Bomber's peak during Astrobot speed runs where it's like, Okay,

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I'm like four drinks in, I'm like, you know, not

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getting in my head about stuff, but I'm not like sloppy,

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Like yeah, there's a right amount.

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Speaker 3: Of the deck sterity goes up, right, Like have you

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ever drank when you're like taking on like a crazy

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bloodborne boss or something, You're just like, I'm so fluid,

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I'm thinking of his moves before he's making them. I'm

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in the motherfuckings Oh my god, I'm drunk. And then

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you and then you had to fall asleep at your keyboard,

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and you know that happened to the best of us.

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Speaker 2: That's so rare with me, the falling asleep. It's happened,

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but on a rare occasion, like sleeping in a couch

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or a chair or something. I like, that's why I

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can't sleep on planes and stuff, is because I can't

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be in a seated position sleeping easily reclined. Sure, if

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I got like a lazy boy situation going on, that's

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happened more often. But like, do you ever play.

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Speaker 3: On a couch like where you're like kind of it's

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a lounge couch situation. Like I fall asleep like that

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all the time, And I just got a new couch

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and so now it's, yeah, I'm in trouble if it's

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it's the couch that has half of it is a

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sitting couch and half of visit a legs extendo couch.

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You know I'm talking about, yeah leg rest situation. And

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if I do that, and I have usually my Steam

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deck and I'm playing something in there, all bets are off.

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At any moment, no matter where I am in a

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video game, I might just fall asleep and have a

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and I just wake up like an hour later and

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I'm happy and nothing bad really happened to me. There's

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no punishment for it usually, So yeah, I mean it's

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just become a natural occurrence.

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Speaker 2: Ye are you not like waking up the airport or something.

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You're probably fine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to wake up in a lawless land.

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If you wake up in like, you know, Toledo on

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a random Tuesday, you've gone too far. But if you're

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in your home, you're you're safe still with your blanking

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on you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, have you guys seen we might may have talked.

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Is that Mexican Coca Cola?

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Speaker 3: It is you, guys. I'm a costco homie now, Yeah,

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I can't help it.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe it. For good prices they yet they

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ran like really good wines that should not be as

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cheap as they are.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy, it's crazy what they offer. But the Mexican

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cokes there are like such a scam. It's such a

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good deal. And if I'm gonna drink soda, I'm not

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much of a soda person. Dan, I know you're a

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big soda head, so like we can maybe talk about this,

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but like I usually just do not drink SODA's ever,

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it's not in my thing. I'm a I'm a Lacroix person.

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I usually drink like soda water if I want something crispy,

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But I do not have any kind of soda almost

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ever in my life. But a Mexican coke at the

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glass bottle, it's just like it's I don't know, it's

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a treat. It's like somebody gave me a gift. It's

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a decadent dessert. It makes me feel like a million bucks.

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I love it. It's such a good treat.

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Speaker 2: I believe it. The only thing is I just I've

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never bought a full normal soda since like before college

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or maybe early college, so it's all zero. And like,

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I don't think they do zero Mexican coke.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they do have zero.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they do no.

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Speaker 3: I think there'd be something like just completely impossible about it,

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considering the whole point of Mexican coke is that it's

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made with sugar instead of corn syrup, which is like

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our American systems, And I don't think zero has corn syrup.

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I would assume it's all su gross or some kind

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of like fake.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay.

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Speaker 1: I used to know that There was a period when

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I was younger and I was getting tested for allergies

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and it turned out one of them was corn. So

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like we were like, all right, if it's bad, nothing,

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I guess corn syrup will have a little bit to

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do with that, So I started trying to avoid coins

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corn syrup in all of it, in everything.

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Speaker 2: I had an allergy test this morning, my first time ever.

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It was what did they do?

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Speaker 1: Do they do the prick?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a billion little pricks in my back and then

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but they did still have these raised dots in my forearm.

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They're like, Okay, we're gonna test for food stuff by putting.

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It's not a shot, it's not an injection. It's just

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like a little blip under your skin. And they said

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blip like a lot to the point where I was like,

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is this an actual medical thing that I've never heard

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or because I've only heard it like, oh, a dog

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was like sticking his tongue out. Weird. Like, we're put

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like six blips under your forearm. I don't know what

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that means.

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Speaker 3: Go it an acronym, I don't know, but.

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Speaker 2: It's just like six bumps they inject like wheat and

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oil or whatever under your forearm and they see if

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it like freaks out and sprouts another arm. And it

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didn't do that for me, So yeah, I guess I'm fine.

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Speaker 1: Why did you get the Well, first off, I hated

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the prot test because several of them went nuts on

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my back. Oh really yeah, grass went crazy like grass

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grew on your back. It was so bad that it

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like it like it got red and a huge bump

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and the red overtook some of the other pricks so

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radiated out for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, But did you.

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Speaker 1: Just get Was it like a routine thing or have

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you been booked? You had?

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Speaker 2: It takes forever if you book something here where. I

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booked it back before I had my sinus surgery, just

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being like when I was having all those infections, I

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was like, that's the spring. Maybe I'm allergic to something

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or pollen in Minnesota or something. So I booked it

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and the earliest date they had was today. And in

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between booking it and now I like had surgery and

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recovery and stuff. But I was like, I'm so curious,

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why not I'll get the test. So but I think

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I'm good.

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Speaker 3: It seems like it's a nice thing to do. I mean,

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I'm not even I don't have a lot of allergies.

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I'd be very curious if my body had any reactions

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to any items. Like I would do it just for

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the knowledge of like what I'm allergic to. So did

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you did you have any reactions to any bleps? Nothing?

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Speaker 2: There's the one like control poke they do on your

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back to like compare the other ones to do. And

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this said, Oh, that one's like a histamine thing that's

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going to make an itch for a little bit, Like

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I slightly itched for a little bit. But it just

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it was easy. It was fine. Nothing reacted bad. Uh yeah, simple.

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They drew some blood to check some other stuff. But man,

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it's all easy.

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Speaker 3: So you don't have any allergies.

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Speaker 2: I'm not allergic to anything.

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Speaker 3: No, why did you do it again?

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Speaker 2: I was wondering about earlier because I booked it in

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the spring. Maybe I'm getting nine thousand, understand.

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Speaker 3: I heard the story. I don't understand why.

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Speaker 1: You book this is that's a bit that was me.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to bed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you boked it a while ago before he had

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all the surgeries, and the surgeries all helped and now

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he feels fine, but he hadn't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I see, I'm still curious, man, I'd like to

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know about my body and what.

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Speaker 3: You find out if it's something like allergies, before you

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have major surgery. So you did a little out of order,

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but I guess it just worked out in the end,

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Thank you American health Care system.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have booked it sooner, but like it

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literally was like, oh, six months from now is the

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earliest thing. So that's great.

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Speaker 3: That's so crazy. I was thinking about out and got

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the big one looking into a deviated septum because my

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nose is always stuffy, and I've heard that deviated septums

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are like you know, it's I mean, it is a procedure,

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but it's totally fixable with modern science, and it's really

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worth looking into. And like these things are booked out

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six months in advance, so if I wanted to like

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get my deviated septum fixed, I have to like call

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a doc now and book it and see me in

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the next year.

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Speaker 2: Might as well, Like you'll book it and then forget

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about it, and then it'll come up for you know,

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and it's like, oh shit, get that done, like they

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did that.

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Speaker 1: That's got recovery though, that the allergy thing, you just

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came home and you're fine. Deviate septum has quite a recovery.

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Speaker 3: It's like getting a little nose job.

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Speaker 1: We both got it, Dan and me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they did it with mine while they're in there

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doing the sinus stuff like.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks, so they got these like stints up it, right.

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Speaker 2: I didn't need the stens, but it still was for

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a while.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had the whole mind was bad, so like

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my whole left nostril just like didn't work my whole life.

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And I never really asked anybody about it, so no

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one knew that it wasn't working. I was like, why

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do we have two nostrils? I thought it was like

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a like a kidney situation. My mom's like, what are

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you talking about? I was like, why do we have

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two nostrils if we only breathe through one? She's like,

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are you congested right now? I was like no, I

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feel fine. She's like, are you telling me you can't

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breathe through one of your nostrils? I was like yes,

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She's like how long? I don't know, seventeen years.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize until like two years ago, and I

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was doing a yoga class and they were like, let's

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do some bread stuff and she was like, okay, so

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cover one nostril and out, cover the other one and

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out and like one of them just doesn't do that.

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It turns out like, yeah, I just wouldn't breathing through

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the right one.

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Speaker 1: It helps broke out like turns out being able to

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breathe like symmetrically. And I was playing sports up in

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like fairly well up until then and then afterwards like,

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oh my god, I've been working like over time, like

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twice as hard to run the same amount.

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Speaker 3: If only they could have unlocked that during your peak

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high school years, you could have made State Mike.

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Speaker 1: Oh dude, I'd be I'd be fucking you would have

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been able to read.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you could have climbed mountains with both of those

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nose hooles opened up.

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Speaker 1: I'd be the fourth Splash brother. Everything would have been different.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't be fucking like Naku in those weight chambers

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like heavy gravity chambers, just struggling to do setups and

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all you needed was that second hole.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't fucking be talking to YouTube every two weeks,

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that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: I do wonder if that was something because I did.

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I just did another half marathon on Sunday, and the

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last one, like all my training and everything was done

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without the surgery, and this one was like a billion

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times easier for me than the first half marathon this year.

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But I think another big part of it, though, was

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it was thirty four degrees this time, and the one

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I did in July was eighty degrees by the end,

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and so like I was full on, Like when I

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crossed the finish line in July, I felt fucked up,

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Like I remember thinking like I need to sit down

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and just eat a bunch of cookies or something until

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I feel like I can, like drive this one. I

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crossed the finished line, grab bottle of water and like, yeah,

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I'm good to go, Like it's so much better when

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it's cold outside.

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Speaker 1: How many halfs is that now?

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Speaker 2: Three? And I signed up for a full marathon next year.

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Speaker 1: You can start telling everybody you've run one and a

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half marathons.

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Speaker 2: Ad, no, no, I'll be back runding good three halves

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and I'll do the full next year. My sister's going

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to train with me, so that'll be fun from a distance. Yep, yep.

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So she'll train in Kansas and then she'll fly up

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for the thing in October.

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Speaker 1: How do is it the Minneapolis Marathon.

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Speaker 2: Twin Cities Marathon?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How does that? Like? I know training for that is like, Okay,

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one day you do two miles and then you rest,

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and then the next day you do six and then

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you rest and then you kind of work up to

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peaks and then you work back down and then you

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work up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Am I sort of describing it?

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Speaker 2: Well, I've got it on my Google calendar. It starts

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in May and then so like let's say, let's look

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at June. My long run Saturday is eight miles, then

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it's nine, then it goes down to six. Then he

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goes to eleven, then he goes to twelve. So it

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does kind of go up and bring it down every

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once in a while, but this is slowly, like the

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trend line's going up. So like by late July, I'm

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doing fifteen miles. Get into August seventeen, eight nineteen, just

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working a ry after that in twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Do you run twenty six before the marathon at all?

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Speaker 2: No, it looks like the longest I will run before

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is twenty on September thirteenth.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just like not worth the injury risk after

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those six that extra six miles or something. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I could see it because it was three four days ago.

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I did this half and like my left foot is

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like I don't think I like broke anything or whatever,

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but just like I can feel like the bones in

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my left foot are like hurting, so I'm like icing

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it and stuff. So if that happens at thirteen miles,

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I can't imagine doing nineteen twenty pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my uncle, I forget how many he's run, but

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he like places well sorry, not like top three. I

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don't think top three, but he like he takes it seriously,

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does it in under whatever the hour count is that like,

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oh you're a serious marathon run or whatever. And he

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was saying I was like, have you ever gotten like

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this random injury like two hours in or sorry, two

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miles in? He's like yeah. I was like what And

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he described some of the injuries he got at two

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miles and I was like that sucks to just have

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to end the racers like, oh, I ran the rest

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of the race. I just didn't run quickly. I was like,

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but you I forgot I wish I knew remembered what.

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But it was like an injury that if I was

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playing basketball, I would leave the court immediately. Sure, he

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just ran another twenty four miles or something because you're like,

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well I did a year for this, Like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if it's on if it's on race day and

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you're literally not like it's not like a bone sticking

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out of your leg or something like you know, you

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train for yeah, the better part of a year. Like

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I would probably run through there, Like my foot was hurting.

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By the end of this one. I was like, this

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is my last run of the year.

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Speaker 3: Basically all the bones were inside and so you can't run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have accepted an injury if you know

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it was my last run.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. When the doctors check you out before the run,

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they're always like, where are the bones, And if they're

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all on the inside, fucking run.

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Speaker 2: If there's one poking out, they just kind of poke

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it back in and you know you're gonna go put

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a band aid over it. You're good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just periodically pussy everybody got this.

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Speaker 3: Pussy's way. He's got a bone sticking out, My bone

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hurts me.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, fans orb is hanging out of his body. Loser,

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his orb is intact.

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Speaker 2: He's fine, my orb was drawn. Yeah, well that's cool.

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Speaker 1: That's exciting. Twenty six point two miles.

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Speaker 2: Yep yep, that'll be October. I mean, we'll see I

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could get injured. Any number of things gonna happen, but that.

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Speaker 1: Hit twenty six miles. You only have point two left,

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and then one of your friends flew in secretly and

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comes out of nowhere on a skateboard and runs into you.

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Speaker 2: Tanya hurting me. Yeah, basically, that'd be a really weird

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thing to do.

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Speaker 3: Kanya Harding did that so that she could win. Mike

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wouldn't even be doing it.

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Speaker 1: I just can't tolerate.

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Speaker 3: He would just want to take you down a peg.

474
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

475
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he doesn't skateboard, Yeah, just a cool factor.

476
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 2: He learns the skateboard so he can do this. It's

477
00:20:47,279 --> 00:20:49,119
for the content. We'll tell a story on the podcast.

478
00:20:49,759 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 1: No, that'd be even funnier if I like put a

479
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,759
hood over your head and then two of my henchmen

480
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,119
pulled you backstage, and then I came out dressed like

481
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,799
you with a wig on or a bear up your wig.

482
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,079
I crossed the finish line, like Bank goes to hug me, like, hey, fuck,

483
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:04,680
I love you.

484
00:21:05,519 --> 00:21:07,440
Speaker 2: It's just that Nathan for you, where he has all

485
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,519
the prosthetics and stuff.

486
00:21:08,599 --> 00:21:11,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, come here, baby.

487
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,519
Speaker 1: Fucking watch your back that last mile, Dan, shit, Okay,

488
00:21:15,079 --> 00:21:18,400
that's when that's when, that's when I'll be lurking. Oh god,

489
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,759
that really would be funny though, if, like now, if

490
00:21:21,839 --> 00:21:23,839
I did fly in secretly and you look off to

491
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the side and you I'm just standing there randomly at

492
00:21:26,559 --> 00:21:28,440
like mile nineteen, Yeah, doing.

493
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Speaker 2: That, I agree, that'd be very funny. Yes, I'm calling

494
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,359
your bluff. Do it.

495
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,799
Speaker 1: That'd be really fucking funny.

496
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Speaker 3: My girlfriends have also been doing marathons. They've been trying

497
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to convince me to do one. There's a couple half marathons,

498
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but I really do not tend to run more than

499
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five miles ever, and I don't know if I want

500
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to run more than five miles. That's a long time.

501
00:21:52,839 --> 00:21:54,920
I remember the first time I run, I ran like

502
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,359
three miles. I was like, good for you, Like go

503
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,599
get a drink, like you're done for the day. But

504
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,039
I've gotten more proactive with running with them, and I've

505
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,079
found that when I run by myself, after I run

506
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,519
about one or two miles, I'm pretty tired and would

507
00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:12,839
like to like take a break or chill. But if

508
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,920
I run with friends, I can run three miles and

509
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,319
not notice and there's like a social component or at

510
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,279
least a mental component to running that's like just about

511
00:22:22,279 --> 00:22:25,200
distracting yourself with other shit going on so that you

512
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,680
don't think about how tired you are.

513
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, that would be when I listened to

514
00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:31,400
my podcast typically throughout the week, like during the training runs,

515
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,759
and then on actual race day. There is something about

516
00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:37,519
just like there's adrenaline, there's a million other people doing this.

517
00:22:37,759 --> 00:22:40,440
It's like it's not your normal route, so there's like

518
00:22:40,519 --> 00:22:43,160
novelty to it. So I didn't necessarily know if I

519
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,240
was gonna be able to do it this time, but

520
00:22:44,279 --> 00:22:45,799
like once you get out there race day, it's just

521
00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:47,920
like your brain clicks into place. It's like, all right, yeah,

522
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,400
we're doing this.

523
00:22:49,079 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine a full marathon. To give you a

524
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,599
lot of credit, I've tinkered with the idea of doing

525
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,759
a half, but again, I just think that there's like

526
00:22:56,799 --> 00:22:59,880
a sweet spot for me personally, or like five or

527
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,160
six miles and I'm like, I'm so proud of me,

528
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,240
and then I go home. I don't get a medal,

529
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,319
but I feel like I accomplished a lot running five miles.

530
00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: But you know what the thing is, though, is that.

531
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,240
I think the reason it's worked for me more than

532
00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:18,079
most any other workout is because you register so far

533
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,200
in advance, like I've already paid for a thing a

534
00:23:20,279 --> 00:23:23,119
year from now, and if I am not ready for it,

535
00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:25,480
I've just wasted that. You know, I wasted the money.

536
00:23:25,519 --> 00:23:27,920
It's not refundable, you know. It's like, so I have

537
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,400
to hit this schedule. I can't just like because if

538
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,559
you don't have like a dedicated thing or a day

539
00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:34,640
on the calendar you got to prepare for at least me,

540
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,240
I'll just be like, ah, you know, today was busy.

541
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,200
I didn't have time to do this or whatever, like

542
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,200
to do a reason, Yeah, you have to do it,

543
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,720
otherwise you're fucked and you're just not gonna be able

544
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,720
to run the marathon. So it like keeps you on track.

545
00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 3: I do like that. I feel like I could use

546
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,400
more reasons to be committed. The best one I have

547
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,920
is that my girlfriends want to run with me, which

548
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,799
is such a wonderful thing. And I don't want to

549
00:23:57,839 --> 00:24:01,079
embarrass myself and have these girls that do run marathons,

550
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,240
and I noticed this the last time we ran together,

551
00:24:03,279 --> 00:24:06,559
because they're obviously much faster and better runners. Than me

552
00:24:06,599 --> 00:24:11,640
because they run marathons. Was that they were running slower

553
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,599
than they usually do. I know what their average miles are,

554
00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:19,119
and they were running slower miles and they didn't complain

555
00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:22,440
and they never brought it up because they're very nice girls.

556
00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:25,880
But I recognized that I was slowing them down, and

557
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,279
so like, to me, my motivation is is if my

558
00:24:29,319 --> 00:24:31,359
girlfriends are inviting me out to run, I don't want

559
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,720
to be the slow runner. So I have to like

560
00:24:33,799 --> 00:24:36,079
keep my shit together so that I can be invited

561
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,559
to the cool runners club. It's all social for me, baby, Like,

562
00:24:39,599 --> 00:24:41,359
I don't want to be in the loser runner club.

563
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,839
I gotta I gotta show up.

564
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: That sounds fun. I've never done that, Like the like

565
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,799
running with people thing, I don't.

566
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: I It's that's not speaking of like what's for you

567
00:24:50,759 --> 00:24:53,039
enough for me. I can't run with other people really

568
00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:56,359
because I either I'm slowing down for them or I'm

569
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,359
working harder than I want to be to like with them.

570
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,400
I mean, once you've enough with someone, I'm sure you

571
00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:04,279
like get a good sense of each other's pace. But like,

572
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,480
I hate even when I round a corner because I'm

573
00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:10,319
running in like a city, most of the time, so

574
00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:12,200
it's all on a grid for the most part until

575
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,200
I get to the water. If I round a corner,

576
00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:16,759
I kind of peek around at first to make sure

577
00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:19,000
no one else is running on that block, because again,

578
00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:21,880
then I have the conundrum. It's like, do I pass

579
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,279
them and feel like an asshole? Or do I get

580
00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:28,480
stuck behind them? Or yeah, do they fucking show me up?

581
00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 3: So those are strangers, and that's toxic masculinity.

582
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: It's not I can be competitive and not be a

583
00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:42,000
toxic masscular.

584
00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: They're just like so excited to run together.

585
00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: Join I didn't say.

586
00:25:51,079 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 3: To my limit, and I better not let this other men.

587
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,759
Speaker 1: Pass close on a run up behind him and kick

588
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:00,680
him in the cross from behind him, then keep running,

589
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:07,079
pick pocket him, sucking as he's bleeding out, take take it,

590
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:08,599
steal his phone for the rest of my run, and

591
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,640
just text all of his friends I hate you. I'm

592
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:19,599
in love with your spouse n f BR three nine

593
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:25,599
two k H Mary. I texted Dan and Bianca this yesterday,

594
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,480
but I'll have you know and you'll appreciate it that, yes,

595
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,880
Amanda and me cannot watch a sex scene in a

596
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,559
show or a movie without her like shouting over it.

597
00:26:36,599 --> 00:26:40,920
I'm anna, I'm gonna fucking fill you up. Like it's

598
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,519
like it could be the most emotional scene now and

599
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,119
like in a drama, like we're like and it's just

600
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,359
I know it's coming, so I'm bracing myself.

601
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:53,839
Speaker 2: Good, let me talking.

602
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,319
Speaker 3: I have to go because it kind of I mean,

603
00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:02,039
it has the potential to ruin things, but I actually

604
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:04,359
think it's a beautiful thing that makes you closer, like

605
00:27:04,599 --> 00:27:07,960
uh uh to me and my partner. Sometimes this is

606
00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:09,759
just I don't know how this happened, but probably for

607
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,519
years now, anytime a character and another character kiss, we

608
00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:17,519
elbow each other like schoolgirls and are like, like we

609
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:20,000
always do it. So if it's steamy, if it's spicy,

610
00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:22,279
if it's just a kiss, it's always an elbow. Just

611
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:25,759
be like shit's heating up and it's become like lore

612
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,920
now where it doesn't matter what situation it is. If

613
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,079
people are kissing, we have to like elbow each other.

614
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:33,240
And I think it's funny and like I wonder if

615
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:36,279
like years from now, you guys will be like watching

616
00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:39,240
the equivalent of like the next generation's Titanic and like

617
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:42,759
two star cross lovers will finally, that's a different movie

618
00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:46,200
will finally be kissing and you will and you guys

619
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:52,640
will just be like, I'm gonna shoot secret joke between

620
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,000
you two.

621
00:27:53,839 --> 00:27:55,759
Speaker 2: You know what I want. There was a website once

622
00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:57,759
called the Walk of Life Project, and it took that.

623
00:27:57,839 --> 00:28:00,359
You know, they did the Walk, the Walk that the

624
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,480
dire straight song. Yeah, yeah, it was. They basically said

625
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,680
that every movie could be improved by putting that over

626
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,880
the as he goes into the credits, and so it

627
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,960
would be like two thousand and one Space even like

628
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,200
a Star Child and Watch of Life is playing, and

629
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,559
it was amazing. I want to see a site like

630
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:17,400
that where it's just taking the mcgoover's sex sounds and

631
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,960
putting them over sex scenes in movies. So just like

632
00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:24,960
famous sex scenes or like the Terminator one where it's

633
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:27,680
like Kyle Reeves and Sarah Connor and just dub over

634
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:32,200
mcgoover sex. Just uh, why is that? My I was

635
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,920
trying to think of a famous sex scene in a movie.

636
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 3: It's like Terminator, what a famous sex scene?

637
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:39,599
Speaker 2: Hey Tommy, what sex was? So to me, it's the

638
00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:40,720
most famous sex scene.

639
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: What does it say about me that I went straight

640
00:28:42,519 --> 00:28:45,759
to three hundred with Gerard Butler The beginning is very

641
00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:55,920
slow motion scene. Yeah, before he's going off to die.

642
00:28:59,759 --> 00:29:02,839
Speaker 2: I'm got just shoot, that's that's my slow.

643
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,799
Speaker 1: Motion Gerard Butler.

644
00:29:04,039 --> 00:29:04,759
Speaker 2: It's really good.

645
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is what is like an emotional sex scene?

646
00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:10,359
Speaker 2: What can I think of emotional sex scene? How much

647
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:16,119
emotional sex have I seen in movies? Fuck, there's there's

648
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:18,319
gotta be some. I don't really see a lot of

649
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,119
romance movies. We talked about that.

650
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:20,359
Speaker 4: Well.

651
00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: I guess mcgruper had the right idea when they took

652
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,359
the top gun scene and fucked with it.

653
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is a non ironic nice emotional sex scene?

654
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 3: The Titanic one where they're in the back, they're.

655
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: Just paying each other naked, they don't have sex.

656
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:37,759
Speaker 3: To they do?

657
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, on the raft they Yeah, he falls off into

658
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,960
the deep because they were trying to sixty nine on

659
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,960
the wrapt He came.

660
00:29:46,799 --> 00:29:48,559
Speaker 2: And like blew his body pack in the water and

661
00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:49,119
to die.

662
00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:52,519
Speaker 1: And then she was too tired, just too.

663
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: Satisfied, time, too tired, get off.

664
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, I beat.

665
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: That's why Leo's face as he falls into the depths like.

666
00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:06,319
Speaker 3: He's got.

667
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: On the director's cut. He keeps sinking down and you

668
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,200
see his boner come in to frames.

669
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: Now I'm curious. Let me search emotional most emotional sex scene.

670
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember the banging and Titanic.

671
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: There's a reddit about this.

672
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:36,799
Speaker 3: You don't remember the banging in title?

673
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,279
Speaker 2: I remember the painting and I remember the ship crashing.

674
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,880
Those are the two things I remember.

675
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: Okay.

676
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:45,799
Speaker 2: Uh.

677
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: The subhead for this reddit post is something blue is

678
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,559
the warmest color? Et Mama tambien. Okay, Now I remember

679
00:30:57,559 --> 00:30:58,880
that portray Lady on Fire.

680
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,519
Speaker 2: I'm saying it was Alexandros.

681
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: Which one? Aren't there several?

682
00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:06,359
Speaker 2: What?

683
00:31:06,839 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: The only one the original I.

684
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: Ever saw that. I was thinking of wild Things for

685
00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:10,640
a second.

686
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,799
Speaker 3: I was thinking of the nod that was not emotional though.

687
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:16,319
Those are just really hot people.

688
00:31:16,359 --> 00:31:20,559
Speaker 1: Fucking yes, aren't there several sex scenes in cruel intentions?

689
00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:23,240
I mean, yes, I want to Selma Blair and Ryan Philippie.

690
00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: Right, but there's the same girl kiss which I think

691
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:28,039
is pretty hot in the pool?

692
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's a there's scream, isn't it? What is

693
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,559
the who's the I think it's who kisses Naomi.

694
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,079
Speaker 2: Something Nev Campbell and Annis Richards and wild Things?

695
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:41,759
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, okay, so yes, we were we already talking

696
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,039
about that. We covered that. I never saw that movie.

697
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:46,720
I just like when I was eighteen, my version of

698
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,759
fourn was watching movie sex scenes.

699
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's like a super famous one for anyone

700
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,519
remotely close to thirties or forties.

701
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:54,559
Speaker 3: Ye, you fix that right.

702
00:31:54,599 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: You've seen this film Wild Things?

703
00:31:56,279 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: No, oh my god, we have to discuss this. Wild

704
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,160
Things is one of the greatest films of like is

705
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,640
it nineties of like that era? Maybe it's so fucking good.

706
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,400
Nev Campbell kills it in the role. But you have

707
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,759
to be really careful because there's spoiler city because it's

708
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about it's like all full of like twists and like

709
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,640
who done it? And there's like all these neat stuff

710
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,559
to it, so you really shouldn't look it up. But

711
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,160
like it's really well done, especially for how hot everybody is.

712
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,240
Everyone's so smoking hot. You'd be like, was probably not

713
00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:30,480
a good plot, and you're watching it because you get

714
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:33,200
to see a full pair of like stunning boobies. But

715
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:36,680
it's also got an incredibly good plot and really good twists,

716
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,599
and everyone's a good actor. It's a kind of movie.

717
00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: I think I might have seen the pool scene. Oh

718
00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:46,200
my god, that's all I need. I think that was it.

719
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: I think I read it continuously gets good. Matt Dylan

720
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:54,920
is really good in it. Denise Richards kills it like

721
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,160
it's it's awesome. It is like, yes, it's super horny,

722
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,920
and you should watch the sex scenes. They're really great.

723
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:06,680
But the film itself is wonderful. It's just like people

724
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,880
are dying and there's like money floating around and everyone's like,

725
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,000
who's killing these people for? Like what money? And there's

726
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:16,200
like master minds going on, and there's a police Bill

727
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,240
Murrian situation. It's very good.

728
00:33:18,279 --> 00:33:20,799
Speaker 2: What Bill Marie it am? I thinking of the right thing?

729
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:22,759
Bill Murray is like in a neck brace? Right?

730
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,599
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I he there's there is a neck brace situation?

731
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:29,440
Is it Bill Murray? I think I'm not think might be,

732
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,440
but it's it's very well done for how hot everybody is.

733
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:38,680
Like you'd think it was like a second rate movie

734
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,519
because it's just there's too many good looking people, but.

735
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:44,359
Speaker 2: It's a cinemax like a Cinemax after dark type thing,

736
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,160
like it had that vibe to it, but it had

737
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,359
like it was a real movie.

738
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: Yes, so I think that's absolutely worth watching in its entirety.

739
00:33:53,559 --> 00:33:56,599
And then you get the bonus of these really great scenes.

740
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,519
But I'm telling you the movie itself is solid.

741
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Speaker 2: It's a watch people like that.

742
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah you okay, you both have homework? Can you watch

743
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,640
Wild Things please?

744
00:34:08,119 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: Well?

745
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,119
Speaker 2: See, I'm interested.

746
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not a huge ask mic, there's.

747
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,599
Speaker 1: No sure Yeah, okay, okay.

748
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: Do we still not know legitimately romantic, non ironic sex

749
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,920
scene in the history of cinema?

750
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:30,519
Speaker 1: No, I see there's a few Broke Back Mountain, Lose

751
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:31,400
the warmest color?

752
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,079
Speaker 3: Uh, I would not recommend blues the warmest colors?

753
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: No, isn't that two kids like high schoolers?

754
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? And these scenes are like ten minutes long. Like

755
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,079
I When they say these things, I think they mean

756
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,679
things like Romeo and Juliet, where there's like people like

757
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,920
making out in a pool and it's hot like blues.

758
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,480
The warmest color is as close as you absolutely can

759
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:00,039
get to it just being like porn with like a

760
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:01,119
slight plot.

761
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, I was saying, like I'm famous ones.

762
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,039
Speaker 2: Wait, Top Gun Maverick was there one with the Tom

763
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:11,360
Cruise and Jennifer Connelly, didn't they like, Yeah, I remember

764
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,000
that lady.

765
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,599
Speaker 1: The first time the song came on.

766
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: Oh maybe I thought I remember there being a yeah, okay, oh.

767
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 3: I was, uh, Witches of east Wick. Have you guys

768
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,760
seen that? It's a classic.

769
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: It's older Susan Sarandon, right, it.

770
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 3: Was, yes, yeah, and share hello, and it's really really good.

771
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,159
But I couldn't remember exactly what it was called. And

772
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:41,000
I was just like, what's it called, like Witches of

773
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,559
like Breastwick or whatever. And it turns out that there

774
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,719
is a Witches of Breastwick because they made a porno

775
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:52,960
nice based on Witches of east Wick and they called

776
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,519
it Witches of Breastwick.

777
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,599
Speaker 2: Boy, that sounds like a real first draft, like we'll

778
00:35:57,599 --> 00:35:59,599
call it, which was a Breastwick, or we'll call it

779
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:01,480
until we come up with real title. It's like that,

780
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,559
which is they just.

781
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,639
Speaker 3: Did it made it all the way into the final.

782
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,719
Jack Nicholson is in Witches of Eastwick. Yes, it's great.

783
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:13,079
It's three witches who are all like, they don't actually

784
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:15,880
know they're witches, and they're sick of men, but they

785
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,320
love men and they're drinking and they're all concocting who

786
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,239
they think is the perfect man. And then it's Jack

787
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,159
Nicholson and he comes into town and he starts seducing

788
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:30,880
them all and he starts like getting with all three

789
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:31,239
of them?

790
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: Is Jack Nicholson like an is he like a desirable man?

791
00:36:35,079 --> 00:36:37,559
Speaker 3: So I think what's interesting about this film and Jack

792
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:40,320
Nicholson in general, is like Jack Nicholson can play like

793
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,920
an absolute psychopath and he can also play a very

794
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,679
charming and charismatic person. And this role contained both of them.

795
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:50,000
When they're describing in the Witches of Eastwick, when they're like,

796
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,760
should he be handsome? And the girls are like, he

797
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,320
should be, but not too handsome. It should be like,

798
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,920
in a funny way, chrisma with them, And I mean

799
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:04,440
Jack Nicholson has that in droves, like he's so charismatic

800
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,079
you can't take your eyes off of him, and the

801
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:10,079
way he portrays this character, who I believe like, although

802
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:15,199
it's probably up for debate, very like essentially like demonic character.

803
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,360
The more Jack Nicholson plays him, the more you're like, oh,

804
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,400
this guy's like a fucking psychopath. But you also still

805
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,320
can't take your eyes off of him, because he's really

806
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,719
charismatic and enjoyable to look at. But he's just a

807
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,480
freak of nature.

808
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,079
Speaker 2: He just never plays the like I'm just a everyman,

809
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:33,239
good old boy like he is always like some sort

810
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,679
of like shining or Cuhoo's nest, like, you know, he's

811
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:37,679
still kind of a wild man like because he's so

812
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,639
good at that. I can't picture him just being like

813
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:40,679
an everyman character.

814
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,199
Speaker 1: He's got He's got the Easy Rider, five easy pieces

815
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,039
Chinatown era, I think Chinatown when I have been before those.

816
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:48,119
Have you guys seen an easy Rider?

817
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,119
Speaker 2: I have to really good movie, all those movies.

818
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,079
Speaker 1: Just looking through these sex scenes on this time out list.

819
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Mike was so quiet recently, and I think

820
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:03,039
he's been looking at best sex scenes of all time porn.

821
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,679
Speaker 2: Oh I saw that, but I don't remember.

822
00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: Oh wait, ship, that isn't that? This is the bad one?

823
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:11,079
This is the last tango in Paris? Why is that on?

824
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:14,119
This isn't that when she came out saying that she

825
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:15,199
was not comfortable during that.

826
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:18,519
Speaker 2: Whole Oh I heard about that. Yeah, Brandon fight Club.

827
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:23,480
Oh the weird like uh Matrix cam Helena Bonham Carter

828
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:26,039
or sex that's just like a shot, that's just like

829
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:29,599
a quick like like matrix rotator around her thing.

830
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: Monsters ball with Thornton, I know the sex scene similar thing.

831
00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: Well, Dan can describe this matrix shot.

832
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,679
Speaker 2: A lot.

833
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:46,519
Speaker 3: You have that like embedded in your brain.

834
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:48,199
Speaker 2: And that's not even a horny thing for me. That's

835
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:50,159
just I saw Fight Club a lot as a teenager.

836
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:51,400
I can tell you, like any scene in that.

837
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: Comes the matrix shot.

838
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brown, Yeah, totally. Man, I haven't seen any of

839
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,400
these fucking movies. Oh, Team America that had a good one.

840
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one's a joke. That's not Sincere.

841
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: It's on this list.

842
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: It's on this list, then it's a bad list. It

843
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:09,960
should be Sincere.

844
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: This is best sex scenes of all time I'm looking at.

845
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's like a joke. Okay, Like good ones

846
00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:18,599
are like Pretty Woman.

847
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:20,039
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that.

848
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:25,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are well they bang in it.

849
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys.

850
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: The only time you guys can each think of sex

851
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,480
scenes is when the matrix camera has like really shot

852
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:35,960
up their pussy or like some kind of action sequence

853
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,400
has occurred right after it.

854
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: What I thought about but didn't say when I was

855
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:40,719
trying to think of movie sex scenes. There's the part

856
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,400
where uh Nicholas Cage and his girlfriend on the roof

857
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,519
when he before he gets called to Alcatraz and they're

858
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:46,800
about to do it on the roof and he gets

859
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,400
a call from the FBI being like we needed to

860
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,280
go to Alcatraz, and he's like, thresting, this is not happening,

861
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:58,440
Like I remember that, Yeah, I remember romantic sex there

862
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,400
the ones that matter? Yeah, or like three minutes of

863
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,480
screen times is cage thrusting into her.

864
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, Like these are They're probably made

865
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,760
for different people. When you're googling something like best romantic

866
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,239
sex scenes from the nineties or whatever, these are probably

867
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,079
going to be more targeted towards like my demographics. I

868
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:18,400
understand why you probably haven't watched them. But the great

869
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,679
equalizer is Wild Things because it's genuinely good and it

870
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,320
has really hot sex scenes. It's it's the perfect blend

871
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,199
of both of our worlds. It's got something for everyone.

872
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,880
I swear to God, I cannot not like.

873
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,199
Speaker 2: I believe it. I believe it from the you know,

874
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,679
three minutes I've seen of that movie. I could see it.

875
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: I've seen that same three minutes many times.

876
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: The best part that's always on TV. When I was

877
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:41,719
a kid trying to turn it on.

878
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,159
Speaker 3: You know, I was rewinding it and playing it.

879
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh it's this many minutes in Okay, it's hearing

880
00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:48,760
at one o'clock on HBO. Guess I'm watching that scrambled

881
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,280
late at night. I'll tune in right, I'll cut away

882
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,400
from Conan right now, and there we go, and then

883
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,480
I'll be done and out of breath and back to Conan,

884
00:40:55,559 --> 00:40:56,159
Back to Conan.

885
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:00,280
Speaker 1: Okay, just reading these lists of like best secon scenes

886
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,960
of all time, do you ever get like overwhelmed by

887
00:41:03,199 --> 00:41:08,239
how many fucking movies have been made? Like what percentage?

888
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,800
In a good way, but like what percentage of movies

889
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,880
do you think you've seen? I'm curious I have ever

890
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,639
been made and published? Like you're like released.

891
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: We'll say it again, how many what.

892
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: Percentage of like the movies ever made do you think

893
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,480
you've personally seen?

894
00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 2: Well, I've seen one three hundred and nineteen movies according

895
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,960
to my letterbox. That's so much. I'm not saying, oh,

896
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,719
there's a lot more than that, for sure, Yeah.

897
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:35,119
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, what, I wonder how you even find

898
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:37,039
that step? But just watching just reading through this list

899
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:39,480
of like best sex scenes, Like god, there are so

900
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:41,599
many movies I have not seen and probably never will.

901
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,679
Speaker 2: But there's also you have to like, are we saying,

902
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,840
like theatrically released, because like, you know, it's like how

903
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,599
many games came out this year if you count every

904
00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:51,880
Steam in the every you know, two dollars thing on

905
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,400
Steam or whatever, everything.

906
00:41:53,079 --> 00:41:55,559
Speaker 1: I ever made. But like still I think if you

907
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:59,000
go to like the Criterion Collection or the Criterion Channel,

908
00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:03,079
I was like, oh my god, I've seen like they're

909
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:06,400
like film buffs are very impressive to me because I've

910
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:08,440
I have not seen a high percentage movie. I've seen

911
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,199
a lot of movies in my life, but not you know,

912
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,400
not nearly as much as I could have if I

913
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:14,239
focus more on it.

914
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 2: Well, according to a Reddit thread, which is I don't

915
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,480
know if that's better or worse than Google AI, as

916
00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:24,519
of twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen, Hollywood is releasing around

917
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:25,599
seven hundred films a.

918
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:29,639
Speaker 1: Year for how long though, But yeah, that's.

919
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,639
Speaker 2: But like thirties. I don't know when film started, but.

920
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,079
Speaker 1: A lot of the movies on this list probably I

921
00:42:37,159 --> 00:42:41,679
wonder what, like what they define as Hollywood because yeah,

922
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,800
to your point, there's a lot of I think acute.

923
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you don't count like direct the DVD like

924
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,559
Aladdin tow stuff.

925
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm counting that there's like a lot of like indie

926
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,800
gems that people like Chris Plant always tells me about.

927
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,199
I'm like, Chris, I'm not going to watch this, but but.

928
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,639
Speaker 2: Nowadays it's like the streaming stuff too, is like oh okay.

929
00:42:58,639 --> 00:43:00,679
Like Palm Springs is definitely a your last movie, even

930
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:03,360
though I went straight to Hulu during the pandemic. Yeah, yeah,

931
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,119
it's muddy. I guess we'll never know.

932
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,039
Speaker 1: One day we'll know. I guess we'll never know.

933
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,639
Speaker 2: I've seen thirteen hundred and nineteen. I'm so picky with

934
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:15,719
my fives. I'm very proud of it. I saw cool movie.

935
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,599
Can I uh, probably less than maybe around twenty I

936
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:23,440
would say. I want to give a suggestion here. Sorcerer.

937
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:24,320
Have you heard of this movie?

938
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: Yes? Why? Why is that?

939
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,559
Speaker 2: I actually heard about it? Mary? At your get together

940
00:43:28,599 --> 00:43:31,920
in Portland a good friend of yours that was there.

941
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,840
Chris was telling us about his favorite movie and he

942
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,440
said it was Sorcerer and it's a tangerin dream does

943
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,039
the soundtrack that did the GGA five soundtrack that had heat,

944
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:44,440
They did a thief of James Cohn, so awesome, awesome soundtrack.

945
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:48,199
But it stars Roy Scheider, the chief from Jaws and

946
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,719
it's basically it's almost like dest stranding. It's like it

947
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,559
definitely seems like something Kajima would have seen.

948
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 3: It's like nineteen seventy seven.

949
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like it's such a cool concept bank

950
00:43:57,039 --> 00:43:58,639
and I had never seen anything like this. It's like

951
00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:01,400
four dudes from different spots in the world all and

952
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,239
I'm not going to spoil anything. They all just gonna

953
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,519
get into shit where they need to like skip town.

954
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,719
So like one of the guys was like a terrorist,

955
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,599
one of the guys was in the mob and they'd

956
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,280
gotten some shit. One of the guys got into a

957
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:13,840
shaded business thing, need to skip Europe and stuff. They

958
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,719
all wind up in the same like South American village

959
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:18,400
and they're all just kind of like trying to lay

960
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,159
low off the grid and just going to the shitty

961
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:23,400
bar and stay low. And all of a sudden there's

962
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,440
a problem at like an oil facility or whatever, and

963
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:32,679
they need these palettes of extremely volatile dynamite delivered two

964
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,400
hundred miles.

965
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: Oh, this is the truck on the bridge.

966
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,599
Speaker 2: Yes, And it's like a suicide mission where it's like, okay,

967
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:40,039
we need good drivers too, and so like Roy Schider

968
00:44:40,039 --> 00:44:42,159
plays like a former mob driver, and he has to

969
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,039
drive this like dynamite that's been leaking and will blow

970
00:44:45,079 --> 00:44:47,079
the fuck up if there's like you hit a rock

971
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,000
and he has to drive it two hundred miles. So

972
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,280
it's just a lot of like four dudes trying not

973
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,920
to kill each other and kill themselves like very precariously

974
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,360
transporting dynamite across South America. It is. It is so

975
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:02,639
tense and cool, and the soundtracks awesome. I fucking loved it.

976
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've I think I've seen that truck scene come

977
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,320
up on like most tense movie scenes ever, oh many times.

978
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,360
That's why I recognized the name. I want to watch

979
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:12,960
this sounds cool.

980
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 2: I like huge recommendation for it.

981
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,119
Speaker 1: Have you seen Jaws? There's like a bit. Yeah, there's

982
00:45:18,159 --> 00:45:23,199
a shark and it's it sneaks onto the beach and

983
00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:30,920
dances some the middle of the day. Yeah, oh wow, Yeah,

984
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,920
I want to Sorcerer.

985
00:45:32,519 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I've given forty two five stars, so out of

986
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,280
my thirteen hundred plus reviews, I've given thirty six five.

987
00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 3: Staries and you gave a five star to Sorcerer poor.

988
00:45:43,119 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: And a half.

989
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,079
Speaker 1: What's your most recent five How.

990
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 3: Dare you recommend something you didn't give five stars too.

991
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's good.

992
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: Most recently released, most recent that you rated that you saw.

993
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: Oh is there?

994
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,599
Speaker 1: It doesn't show chronologically.

995
00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: Sort by win rated, yes, newest first when no, uh oh,

996
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,880
I guess I went back and uh okay. The last

997
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,000
three were once I rewatched recently, The Wrestler, Alien and Annihilation.

998
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,079
Those three I rewatched in the last year, and it's like, yeah,

999
00:46:11,079 --> 00:46:14,599
those are five star movies. I like, yeah, And before

1000
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:17,679
that was Rambo, Last Blood and Grimlins two.

1001
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:18,119
Speaker 1: So.

1002
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 3: A yes, Grimlins two.

1003
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, Grimlins two is a five star movie.

1004
00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: I've seen it.

1005
00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 5: The sex scene, actually, the last scene in the movie

1006
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,639
is the lady Grimlin kissing on the dude and then

1007
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,880
like looks at the camera with like lips to cons

1008
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,599
all fucked up looking, and then like I think it

1009
00:46:41,679 --> 00:46:43,880
might heart fade into the credits or something like that.

1010
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:46,519
Speaker 2: So it's implied that the Gremlin lady had sex with

1011
00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:49,400
that Henchman guy. Five stars.

1012
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: Cool. Cool, you guys want to talk about video games? Oh?

1013
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,119
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, Mike and Mary. I joined First Leave to

1014
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,559
enjoy some fantastic personal line just for me, but now

1015
00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:04,199
it's become my secret weapon for the holiday season, from

1016
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:07,159
hosting to attending parties, I always have great wines on

1017
00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:08,960
hand to share with friends and family.

1018
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: Plus, we're coming up on Thanksgiving, We're coming up on

1019
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,000
the holiday season in general, so it's a good time

1020
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,199
to get some Saint Audette Nui Pino noir from France.

1021
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,760
Pino noir is always a great Thanksgiving wine. I myself

1022
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,519
love Boujelai. There's Cabernet Salvignon from Chile. There's Caberne Salvinill

1023
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:27,679
from California. There's Zinfandels, there's Chardonnays, there's Rose's Mary. Tell

1024
00:47:27,679 --> 00:47:29,639
people how they can get in on this before Thanksgiving

1025
00:47:29,679 --> 00:47:30,400
and the holidays hit.

1026
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,119
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1027
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1028
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1029
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1030
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1031
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1032
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1033
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: Escape here like there's a lot of background noise.

1034
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,679
Speaker 2: That was a part Oh okay, put that was not

1035
00:47:58,760 --> 00:47:59,519
That was a crash.

1036
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:01,599
Speaker 3: It looks it sounded like a dog had run into

1037
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:02,119
a box.

1038
00:48:02,199 --> 00:48:04,639
Speaker 2: No, I see the waveform on that part that was

1039
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,760
I trust me, it was a part. I felt it.

1040
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I almost want to replay it because I

1041
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,440
have to just say, it's incredible to me that your

1042
00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:17,960
farts can sound like an animal rustling in Christmas packages

1043
00:48:18,039 --> 00:48:18,760
under a tree.

1044
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: Or calling through a china shop.

1045
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: I think the problem is we talked about Costco earlier.

1046
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:26,360
I bought a giant bag of candy as backup candy

1047
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,119
bag because I want to be the full sized candy

1048
00:48:28,119 --> 00:48:31,159
bar house. So I bought thirty full sized candy bars

1049
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:32,719
and then if there are more, I've got the backup.

1050
00:48:33,079 --> 00:48:35,719
But I have eaten almost all of this bag of

1051
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,239
the backup candy in the last it's like, ooh, Halloween's

1052
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,320
coming up. I'll throw out the bag after Halloween. But

1053
00:48:40,519 --> 00:48:43,760
after every fucking meal, three meals a day, I'm taking

1054
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,719
so many fucking Skittles and Twizzlers and Nerds and arrowheads

1055
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,000
and Life Savers gummies, and I'm just eating like a

1056
00:48:49,079 --> 00:48:51,000
thousand calories of candy a day. So that's what's going

1057
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:51,599
on with the part.

1058
00:48:51,559 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: After three each meal, like after breakfast.

1059
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a lot of skittles after.

1060
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: Break it's your breakfast, just skittles.

1061
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,599
Speaker 2: No, I'll do I'll do the healthy thing. You know,

1062
00:49:03,639 --> 00:49:06,920
it's cool. I had some oatmeal or avocado toast and

1063
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,679
then skittletown.

1064
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 3: If you think you smelled your fart, do you think

1065
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,119
you could taste the rainbow smell?

1066
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,599
Speaker 2: No, it just smelled like a fart. It's still lingering

1067
00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:20,519
in here, so so you can tell ye it is not. No,

1068
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,480
it's Mary farts in here right now.

1069
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,559
Speaker 1: Mary, when you got up to when we got up

1070
00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:28,880
to take the break, right before damn left, I was like,

1071
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,920
wait a minute, William Freakin directed Sorcerer, why not just

1072
00:49:32,039 --> 00:49:34,000
lead off with that? That would have had me right away?

1073
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:39,559
Forgot that part some of the best ones ever. But anyway, Mary,

1074
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,679
you've played Zelda now, the Legend of Zelda Echoes of Wisdom.

1075
00:49:44,519 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 3: Yes, I finally uh got my hands on it. I've

1076
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,800
been delayed, but we are in Gody season, so I've

1077
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,599
really tried to kick it up and make sure that

1078
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,760
I am up to date with the latest that everybody

1079
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,639
else is playing. And I I don't know how far

1080
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,559
I maybe you guys can help me, but I mean

1081
00:50:03,039 --> 00:50:07,039
I have to be like eight or nine hours into

1082
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:07,760
it now.

1083
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,159
Speaker 2: I mean, I full on dungeons have you done?

1084
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's a little confusing to

1085
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,719
know what a dungeon is. Is it when you're in

1086
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:15,480
the cloud.

1087
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:17,199
Speaker 2: World if you got to, well, you do the cloud

1088
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:18,599
thing to like get into it. But like if there

1089
00:50:18,679 --> 00:50:20,519
was a big key in it in a boss fight.

1090
00:50:21,079 --> 00:50:23,639
Speaker 3: I think I've done two big keys, okay.

1091
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: Has the map kind of opened up after that? Like

1092
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,000
you did the day with the like, oh, this aura

1093
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:29,639
is playing their flutes and then you died the desert stuff.

1094
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 3: I've done the desert stuff and I've done the water stuff.

1095
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: Okay. I think it's right after those two that I

1096
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,440
started liking it. Like I liked it at the beginning,

1097
00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:39,719
I started really liking it after those two because those

1098
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,159
two in particular are really talky and stuff. There's just

1099
00:50:42,159 --> 00:50:45,519
a lot of like they're so talky. Yeah, I was surprised.

1100
00:50:45,639 --> 00:50:46,800
It's a lot for a Zelda game.

1101
00:50:47,159 --> 00:50:51,119
Speaker 3: I appreciate you saying that to me because I've like

1102
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,599
skimmed a couple of reviews and I've played it and

1103
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,679
so far, although I would not say I dislike it,

1104
00:50:57,679 --> 00:51:00,559
it's still Zelda. I mean it's very fun and it's interesting.

1105
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,920
I would say it's one of the weaker Zeldas that

1106
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,039
I've ever played for a couple of reasons. So far

1107
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:08,159
so far, right, and I have more time to go

1108
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,400
with it. But here's like a couple of my issues.

1109
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,760
One very talky. I just want to play, dude, like,

1110
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:17,760
leave me alone. I don't understand why everybody wants to

1111
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:23,079
tell me their life fucking story. Two, I felt a

1112
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:27,440
couple times that I was punished for investigating areas early.

1113
00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:31,199
And I'll give you an example. In this game, I

1114
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,480
find it fairly linear, despite the fact that it is

1115
00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:38,079
an open map, right, but they've closed a lot of

1116
00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:48,440
spaces off because of the purple cloud shards.

1117
00:51:45,559 --> 00:51:48,639
Speaker 1: Or something rifts yeah maybe, yeah.

1118
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 3: The yasma whatever, you know, and it makes it pretty

1119
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:59,039
limited where you can investigate. And in the water area,

1120
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,119
I started just scoping around in the water because I

1121
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:06,480
thought it would be fun. And I found this cave

1122
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,280
and I was like, that's so cool. I found an

1123
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,800
underwater cave and I went through this system and I

1124
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,280
got a little uh treasure coat, you know box, and

1125
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,440
it gave me fifty rupees And it wasn't that exac

1126
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,480
I didn't getn item or anything. But I was like, oh, well,

1127
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:22,679
I got some money and I investigated this little cave

1128
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,320
and then I started doing the main story. And then

1129
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,119
later on in the main story, they were like, my

1130
00:52:28,199 --> 00:52:30,440
son's stuck in a cave, and it took me to

1131
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,320
the same cave system I had already discovered and investigated

1132
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,199
and enjoyed, but now there was a kid in it,

1133
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,039
and I had to redo the exact same cave system

1134
00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:42,480
it already had. My my treasure was already opened because

1135
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,280
I had already discovered this space it, enjoyed it, and

1136
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,320
I just had to They literally made me redo the

1137
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,320
exact same puzzles so that I could free the child

1138
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,119
who was stuck in the cave systems. And I thought

1139
00:52:52,119 --> 00:52:55,840
to myself, you know, if you're gonna punish me, I

1140
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,519
don't know if it's a punishment, but like, if you're

1141
00:52:57,519 --> 00:52:59,679
just gonna make me redo this because I didn't do

1142
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,239
it in order that the game wanted me to do it,

1143
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:03,760
why did you let me do it?

1144
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,199
Speaker 2: This is really annoying.

1145
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't let me do it and have.

1146
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: Something block it off until a story event happens.

1147
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:13,039
Speaker 1: Or something, or if like in Tears the Kingdom I

1148
00:53:13,039 --> 00:53:15,360
feel like if it was a open world Zelda, you

1149
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,559
would have come across that kid first, and then you

1150
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,440
you what, he would have been like, oh, thanks, you

1151
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:21,920
helped me out, and then he would go back to

1152
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,960
the village and then it would adapt. So she's like, hey,

1153
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,239
I heard you got my son out, Thank you or whatever.

1154
00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 3: One hundred percent thank you. That's exactly what I was

1155
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,000
hoping for. It's like, if I had discovered it out

1156
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,880
of order, an open world game should have accounted for

1157
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,239
that and then told the person my son told me,

1158
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,400
you got me out, you got him out, so we

1159
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,519
can skip this part of the story. Like there was

1160
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:47,000
just something about it that was like, it's open world,

1161
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:49,079
but if you do that cave system before we want

1162
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:50,360
you to do it, we're gonna make you fucking do

1163
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,880
it again because we're not ready for you to do

1164
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,159
it yet. And it's just like, well, then it's not

1165
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:53,880
open world.

1166
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I totally get what you're saying. Like, if

1167
00:53:56,519 --> 00:53:58,199
a game is open world like that, that was part

1168
00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:00,440
of my big argument about Red Dead two is like

1169
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:02,480
big open world Rockstar game, but then like, oh, I

1170
00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:04,159
veered from the path for two seconds and the like

1171
00:54:04,159 --> 00:54:06,679
failed my mission it's like, well, don't fucking sell me

1172
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:07,920
on this big world.

1173
00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:10,199
Speaker 1: And so seldom in Red Dead two, I won't have

1174
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,159
happen enough to me. I've got another bonu pick with

1175
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,599
you tonight, so I'm just getting warmed up. I wonder

1176
00:54:17,599 --> 00:54:21,760
I like, uh, echoes wisdom a plot, but there are

1177
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:26,320
I talked about this last episode. It does feel like

1178
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,159
one of the messier Zelda's I've played, even considering like

1179
00:54:30,199 --> 00:54:32,519
Breath of the Wild and Tiers of Kingdom's frame rate issues.

1180
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:38,280
This like, I actually, so, I think I've done three

1181
00:54:38,679 --> 00:54:41,639
three more dungeons since last we spokes a five total,

1182
00:54:42,039 --> 00:54:45,119
so you're near the end. I've got another like three,

1183
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,840
I think three dungeons. I think there's six after you

1184
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,039
do the two initial ones. Six after wow, yeah, maybe

1185
00:54:52,639 --> 00:54:57,039
three or four after two? Like look at yeah, it

1186
00:54:57,079 --> 00:54:58,960
looks like there's room for three more. Maybe I've only

1187
00:54:58,960 --> 00:54:59,360
done two.

1188
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:02,639
Speaker 3: There's like six items and I only have like one

1189
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:05,039
of them. So there's so many thingies I still need

1190
00:55:05,079 --> 00:55:05,559
to get from.

1191
00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: There's some weird things that you get only if you

1192
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:11,119
do this particular thing and you'll occasionally use It's. Yeah,

1193
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,159
it's messy in a few different ways. Like you know,

1194
00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:16,079
there's there's frame rate, you brought that up. There's things

1195
00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:18,239
where it's like, yeah, it's open, but because you can

1196
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,280
break stuff, you can also get to step out of order.

1197
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:23,119
Like from what I'm hearing here, I think we're all

1198
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,079
roughly on the same page of this game. Where's I

1199
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:28,039
think we appreciate what it's doing. We generally like it,

1200
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:29,840
but like there are things that annoy us about it

1201
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,679
to the point where it's like, I do wonder if

1202
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,079
this will place on the top ten for us?

1203
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I think it's it's it's I have

1204
00:55:36,519 --> 00:55:39,079
issues with it, you know, and I am enjoying it,

1205
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:41,559
and I do want to say, like what I'm worried

1206
00:55:41,639 --> 00:55:43,760
is that we're holding it to this really high caliber.

1207
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,320
Because it's Zelda, I just expect it to be so

1208
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:51,480
fucking perfect. I was shocked that in the first boss fight,

1209
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,079
I was like, am I just supposed to throw tables

1210
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:57,000
at it? And like, I think a lot of people

1211
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,559
probably had this like weird reaction of like what am

1212
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:01,800
I supposed to do in this boss fight? But usually

1213
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:06,440
in Zelda's they're just so clean about guiding you and

1214
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:10,880
coddling you of what you should be focused on. During

1215
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,239
every boss fight, even if it is very open and

1216
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,519
you can do it however the fuck you want. In

1217
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,119
Tears of the Kingdom, they were always like, so we're

1218
00:56:18,159 --> 00:56:22,039
teaching you this very specific skill. The entire dungeon and

1219
00:56:22,119 --> 00:56:24,199
the boss fight will also use this skill.

1220
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:24,760
Speaker 2: It's all.

1221
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, But in the first boss in this game, you're

1222
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,519
just stuck with this boss and you can only make

1223
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:36,599
like three things, and so I just kept throwing tables

1224
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:37,960
at it until it died.

1225
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:38,559
Speaker 2: Cool.

1226
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the first one was very much just you

1227
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,599
gotta warp transform into Link and hit his weak spot like.

1228
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 3: That was why I could not do that. I threw

1229
00:56:45,079 --> 00:56:46,840
tables at that bitch for like ten minutes.

1230
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 2: Styles.

1231
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,039
Speaker 1: That's one thing like this, even if you're probably very right,

1232
00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:55,559
Like if it wasn't a Zelda game, I I wonder

1233
00:56:55,639 --> 00:56:59,360
if I even would have played it, because I like

1234
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,800
this game a lot of its ideas more than I

1235
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,440
like the execution. The so many of the echoes, like

1236
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,079
the ones that attack things, their pathing is just awful

1237
00:57:08,199 --> 00:57:10,599
and they miss. And I realized that there are things

1238
00:57:10,639 --> 00:57:12,559
that are going to be better at The sharks are

1239
00:57:12,559 --> 00:57:14,119
gonna be One of the better things. Is someone in

1240
00:57:14,199 --> 00:57:17,400
water This far in the some of the birds are

1241
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,519
just better at taking out other birds. But like, this

1242
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:22,599
game does feel like a collection of really cool ideas

1243
00:57:22,639 --> 00:57:24,719
that it's a bit rough around the edges, and I'm

1244
00:57:24,719 --> 00:57:26,760
still really enjoying. I think it's in my personal top

1245
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,519
ten of the year, but probably it's very low. It's

1246
00:57:30,599 --> 00:57:33,960
just I don't know. I also it just like even

1247
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,559
I tried doing what you and Grubb said, Dan and

1248
00:57:36,599 --> 00:57:39,639
opening the grid to pick an item, even then, I

1249
00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:42,480
was like, I still preferred the just use my go

1250
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:44,719
back to the on the dpad for the most recent

1251
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,599
ones because more often than I was using a recent one.

1252
00:57:46,599 --> 00:57:50,239
Speaker 2: But like water always there. Yeah, and I don't.

1253
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:51,599
Speaker 1: Know what the solve would be for that. Maybe a

1254
00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:54,159
series of rings that you get like Dishonored two style,

1255
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,239
like a weapon that you go through.

1256
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just so many and there's a lot.

1257
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,079
Speaker 2: Oh and it gets worse. I bet it does, because I'm.

1258
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,599
Speaker 3: Very early and I'm like, I have so much shit.

1259
00:58:03,639 --> 00:58:07,079
I don't understand why they let you duplicate so many items.

1260
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,920
I can see the creativity, but it's also like you're

1261
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,239
confusing me, like.

1262
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,039
Speaker 2: Two kinds of rocks and then yeah, just so.

1263
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 3: Many types of enemies, and now they've added like enemies

1264
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,159
with uh with metal and stuff and statues, and it's

1265
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:25,039
like if these are for puzzles and I'm never gonna

1266
00:58:25,039 --> 00:58:28,280
need them again, You're just adding these to my very

1267
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:33,079
full repertoire, and I'm like a little overwhelmed with choice.

1268
00:58:33,719 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: It's like the resident Evil thing where it's like you

1269
00:58:35,559 --> 00:58:37,119
use a key. I love it when it's like, hey,

1270
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:38,079
you don't need this any more? Do you want to

1271
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:39,280
throw it away? It's like, oh, thanks for telling me

1272
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:39,559
that game.

1273
00:58:40,639 --> 00:58:44,639
Speaker 1: There's I also in a bigger sense, and this might

1274
00:58:44,679 --> 00:58:47,000
be unfair, and tell me if it is the fact

1275
00:58:47,079 --> 00:58:50,719
that you have this ability to become the character that

1276
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,760
we were so excited that for once we were like

1277
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,159
getting away from and you use it to do damage.

1278
00:58:56,199 --> 00:58:57,920
It's like, why wouldn't I warp into link if I'm

1279
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,800
getting frustrated because these birds won't be hitten and like

1280
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,719
the Eater. By the time you get to like the

1281
00:59:01,719 --> 00:59:03,480
fourth dungeon, the meter is pretty generous.

1282
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was like, hop out kind It's like

1283
00:59:07,639 --> 00:59:09,159
it Zelda's game, but you can be like if you

1284
00:59:09,159 --> 00:59:10,760
want to do real damage.

1285
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,119
Speaker 1: Want to actually do damage, and like, yeah, I'm I'm

1286
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,280
I'm definitely meeting the game halfway to do the creative stuff,

1287
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,119
and I appreciate for what it's doing, but like, this

1288
00:59:18,199 --> 00:59:21,000
feels like a not a first draft. That's very unfair,

1289
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:23,039
Like I don't know this, this feels like it needed

1290
00:59:23,039 --> 00:59:24,440
a few more edit pass.

1291
00:59:24,719 --> 00:59:28,119
Speaker 3: I agree with you. It feels like a hack week concept.

1292
00:59:28,199 --> 00:59:30,599
And then someone was like, I'm making a real game and.

1293
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,079
Speaker 1: Say that it but it's still I still think this

1294
00:59:33,159 --> 00:59:35,119
is a good game. It's just this is It's like

1295
00:59:35,159 --> 00:59:37,719
it gets really frustrating sometimes. But yeah, I really like

1296
00:59:37,719 --> 00:59:39,760
when I saw that you could transform into link with

1297
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,760
like the robe, I was like, or the sword. Sorry,

1298
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,800
I was like I didn't want like I was.

1299
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 2: It was go all the way in if you commit

1300
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,239
to the bit and if you're gonna do it. Yeah,

1301
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,079
It's funny the the weight that a series name will

1302
00:59:52,159 --> 00:59:54,039
will carry into a new game, Like you know, we're

1303
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:56,159
all talking about like your expectations of Zelda going in.

1304
00:59:56,199 --> 00:59:58,239
It's got the name on it. And I remember Spirit

1305
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,480
Tracks came out for the s and we gave it

1306
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:03,559
an eight a Game Informer, and I remember at the

1307
01:00:03,559 --> 01:00:05,079
Game of the Year meetings that year when we're trying

1308
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:07,400
to whittle our list down. Spear tracks came up and

1309
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,079
like all of us were shitting on it. We're all

1310
01:00:09,079 --> 01:00:10,679
we're all just sitting in the meeting and just being like,

1311
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,880
oh man, it's like there's no real overworld. You're just

1312
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,880
in these fucking train tracks. It sucks. It sucks. And

1313
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,000
I think Andy McNamara or someone was like, well, we

1314
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:19,039
gave it an eight. It sounds like everyone hates it,

1315
01:00:19,199 --> 01:00:21,920
and Matt Helgeson was like, yeah, but at Zelda, so

1316
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,679
I think it was kind of it was a gentleman's eight.

1317
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:26,920
It was Zelda. Yeah.

1318
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,719
Speaker 1: And to be clear, like when Breath of the Wild

1319
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,360
kind of came out and did something, you know, big

1320
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,199
and bold, I was all for it. And like I

1321
01:00:33,199 --> 01:00:35,360
remember during the Game of the Year at GameSpot that

1322
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,800
got heated because the only argument people could make against

1323
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,840
Breath of the Wild aside from the frame rate issues,

1324
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,480
was but it's not a Zelda game.

1325
01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, shut up, yeah, And.

1326
01:00:45,679 --> 01:00:47,159
Speaker 1: I was like and then again, like the more we

1327
01:00:47,199 --> 01:00:50,280
talked about, the more like we wrote. Oli Welsh wrote

1328
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,239
a really good up at on Polygon when I was there,

1329
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:56,280
like this is the closest any Zelda game. This is

1330
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,760
basically they took the idea of the very first Zelda

1331
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,760
game but made it in twenty twenty seventeen. So like

1332
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,119
in the middle of the map, Yeah, I have fun,

1333
01:01:05,239 --> 01:01:07,679
so like in essence, it's the most Zelda ass game

1334
01:01:07,679 --> 01:01:11,119
ever made. But again I was like the first one

1335
01:01:11,159 --> 01:01:14,239
to fire back. I'm like, I want Zelda to evolve,

1336
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,320
and I think, you know, like when it plays with

1337
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,920
this structure that we understand as Zelda. Like Mary you mentioned,

1338
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,920
like my favorite Zelda games are still I mean, Bretha

1339
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,920
Woldteers the King am I almost to my maybe counter

1340
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:29,039
to my point, I almost don't count them among my

1341
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,400
Like I'm talking when I say my favorite zeld the

1342
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,079
game is my favorite traditional ones like Akarina Majora, like

1343
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:36,840
the sixty four era or I don't know, I really

1344
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,880
like Link between Worlds. But I'm all for them for

1345
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,079
it evolving. But uh, and I'm very glad I was

1346
01:01:43,079 --> 01:01:45,760
a wisdom is even a thing and that it's such

1347
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,119
a full fledged Zelda game. But yeah, got it. The

1348
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:52,599
more I play it, the more I'm simultaneously impressed and

1349
01:01:52,639 --> 01:01:54,199
frustrated because of the rough edges.

1350
01:01:54,719 --> 01:01:57,719
Speaker 2: It's flawed for sure. Yeah, No, I don't think.

1351
01:01:57,639 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: I'll forget it anytime soon, which is more than I

1352
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:04,199
can for some like really tight, boring games.

1353
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,199
Speaker 2: We were you know, we will need to figure out

1354
01:02:05,199 --> 01:02:06,519
what we're talking about, game of the year and stuff. Here.

1355
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:08,599
We're kind of talking a little bit off mic about

1356
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,280
the homework assignments we want to give each other because

1357
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,679
literally the next episode is our game of your episode

1358
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,880
just insane to think about. So we made a little

1359
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,280
doc here of like, okay, games that we think everyone

1360
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,400
else should play beforehand, because we're going to talk about

1361
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,199
it quite a bit. My two U we'll talk about

1362
01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:27,320
more in a bed Echo Point Nova and UFO fifty.

1363
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,159
Do you guys have any off the top of your heads?

1364
01:02:31,679 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 3: Oh, off the top of our heads. We also have

1365
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,039
to have maxes for games that we should all play

1366
01:02:36,119 --> 01:02:39,639
because I think I think while you can obviously put,

1367
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,079
I'm just gonna say this while I buy time for

1368
01:02:42,159 --> 01:02:44,320
us to think about our games. But it's like, while

1369
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,880
we could all say like, well you better uh put,

1370
01:02:48,159 --> 01:02:50,280
Oh my god, I can't even think of any right now.

1371
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, like two two two seems fair if you.

1372
01:02:53,559 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 3: Like is it two? Is it five? Like I'm not

1373
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,320
going to play ten, like you're definitely gonna ru fifty.

1374
01:02:59,239 --> 01:03:01,239
Speaker 1: Fifty UFO fifties already.

1375
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,199
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna play all of them. You better tell

1376
01:03:03,199 --> 01:03:04,320
me your favorite.

1377
01:03:04,039 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: Nova was not on my list.

1378
01:03:05,599 --> 01:03:08,119
Speaker 2: I will talk about that in the bid here. Did

1379
01:03:08,119 --> 01:03:11,360
did you both play Prince of Persia the Last Crown? Yepkay?

1380
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:12,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah we raved about that the beginning.

1381
01:03:12,679 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we played about Prince of Persia. I think

1382
01:03:15,559 --> 01:03:19,679
that's fair cro country on there. To be honest with you,

1383
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,840
I think that's yeah. That's going to be for.

1384
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:24,559
Speaker 1: Those too that that I want to play. Just out

1385
01:03:24,559 --> 01:03:25,320
of my own excitement.

1386
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 3: I'll put it on there because I didn't think you

1387
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,239
guys would play it, which is why it's probably worth That's.

1388
01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: What this is for. This is for the homework.

1389
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,599
Speaker 1: Going to say, Marry, we've been playing survival horror games together.

1390
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,199
Literally the series inspired this game.

1391
01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 3: But where have you been?

1392
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 2: What are we doing?

1393
01:03:43,079 --> 01:03:43,199
Speaker 5: Uh?

1394
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,079
Speaker 2: Well, we'll need to play Rise the Golden Idol. Yeah,

1395
01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:48,679
it's coming out between now and the end of the year.

1396
01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:50,920
I gotta play the last one under the Wire. I

1397
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:52,320
think Dragon.

1398
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:56,519
Speaker 1: Dragon I need to play. Sorry, I'm glad to see

1399
01:03:56,519 --> 01:03:57,920
that's the kind of attitude. I got a bone to

1400
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,800
pick with you about a certain game that you want

1401
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:00,360
to Wow.

1402
01:04:01,239 --> 01:04:05,119
Speaker 2: Okay, I know where we're going here. Okay, Okay.

1403
01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: I sat down to Metaphor Refensasio and I was like, okay,

1404
01:04:09,239 --> 01:04:11,760
so I'll play and then maybe tonight I'll get to

1405
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,280
that part that Dan mentioned that pushed him away, because

1406
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:15,800
I'm sure it's really far into the game.

1407
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,079
Speaker 2: It wasn't just that part.

1408
01:04:17,559 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 1: But you said, how long did you play that game?

1409
01:04:19,679 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 2: Twelve minutes?

1410
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,159
Speaker 1: Twelve minutes? Do you sincerely think that that's giving a

1411
01:04:23,159 --> 01:04:24,360
game a chance? No?

1412
01:04:25,159 --> 01:04:25,719
Speaker 3: Why did you?

1413
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: Why did you? Like? You had this preamble about how

1414
01:04:28,039 --> 01:04:30,079
noble you were for giving a game of chance and

1415
01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:33,239
meeting it halfway? That was not a bit. Maybe in

1416
01:04:33,239 --> 01:04:35,840
retrospect you're painting it as a bit. You were being serious.

1417
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,719
You thought that was like being all like high and

1418
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:40,639
mighty and being like.

1419
01:04:40,639 --> 01:04:44,559
Speaker 2: Okay, I was because I was open to a personal

1420
01:04:44,599 --> 01:04:48,400
growth moment. Am I giving this game a shot? I'm growing? No,

1421
01:04:48,639 --> 01:04:51,079
I'm not giving myself any credit because I lasted twelve

1422
01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:53,280
minutes for the fuck this shit like, So that's not

1423
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,280
personal growth. That's me doing everything I've always done so

1424
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,639
now all as a person there, Okay, at.

1425
01:04:58,559 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: Least you acknowledge that.

1426
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,159
Speaker 2: Now that we're for twelve minutes, I was a big man,

1427
01:05:03,559 --> 01:05:04,639
last big man.

1428
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:06,039
Speaker 1: It's longer than I.

1429
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: My anime game about Mike Kings and Magic. Yeah, it's

1430
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:12,840
it's I'm sure it's a really good game.

1431
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm digging that game a lot. And that's

1432
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,599
and that's I'm not going to give that to anybody

1433
01:05:17,679 --> 01:05:19,159
like I think Jake and I are the only ones.

1434
01:05:19,239 --> 01:05:21,000
Jake's put way more time into it. I can't give

1435
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,880
you that. It's one hundred and twenty hours. If you

1436
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,760
finish it, that's not happening. Like, I'm not asking to

1437
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:25,679
play it, but for it.

1438
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,159
Speaker 2: I'll quit the podcast if you put that on this dog.

1439
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: For what it's worth, that game.

1440
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 3: You have the ability to do the funniest thing right.

1441
01:05:35,719 --> 01:05:40,639
Speaker 2: Now in the call. All right, you're right, it would

1442
01:05:40,639 --> 01:05:43,199
be funny.

1443
01:05:43,719 --> 01:05:47,039
Speaker 3: I consider it with my bits fire Escape is canceled

1444
01:05:47,079 --> 01:05:49,199
and the funniest bit Dan has ever done.

1445
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 2: It would be really good. Mike, tell us about your

1446
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:55,679
your Magic game.

1447
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,519
Speaker 1: I'm fifteen hours in, so not that far. I finished

1448
01:05:58,559 --> 01:05:59,960
the first Palace you've done.

1449
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 2: What have you?

1450
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm using Palace because that was persona no inenclature. But God,

1451
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,519
for as much as that game annoys me, it also

1452
01:06:07,559 --> 01:06:11,239
impresses the hell out of me. Like similar to Persona

1453
01:06:11,519 --> 01:06:14,079
five and four, those are the only two I've played

1454
01:06:15,639 --> 01:06:19,800
very slow start I Also, it's not just I'm fine

1455
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,079
with the game being talky as long as it's done well,

1456
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:24,679
and much of this game has actually done surprise like

1457
01:06:24,719 --> 01:06:28,679
the Overwooking story I really like. But so many times

1458
01:06:28,679 --> 01:06:31,079
the game says eight things when it could just say one.

1459
01:06:31,559 --> 01:06:36,280
And also just as often it's almost like they're recapping

1460
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,960
every single scene right after it happens. That kind of

1461
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,440
writing annoys me. When this game gets out of its

1462
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:45,079
own way, similar to Persona five, when it's talkie and

1463
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,800
you know, a meaningful way to like ramp up drama

1464
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,559
on the way to your next big mission, then it's

1465
01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:55,480
super fun. The momentum gets going. Possibly one of my

1466
01:06:55,519 --> 01:07:02,159
favorite RPG combat systems ever. Octopath Traveler two was the

1467
01:07:02,199 --> 01:07:04,480
most recent one, or Octopath Traveler one and two where

1468
01:07:04,519 --> 01:07:06,719
I was like, oh my god, this is incredible. I

1469
01:07:06,719 --> 01:07:10,000
thought Persona five's combat was fine. It wasn't, you know,

1470
01:07:10,239 --> 01:07:12,800
it wasn't super building on the earlier on four at

1471
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,320
least again that's the only other one I've played in

1472
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:21,320
huge ways, but metaphors Combat is one of those things

1473
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,559
where the more I play it, the more I enjoy it,

1474
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:26,679
which in a genre I think many people associate with grinding,

1475
01:07:26,719 --> 01:07:29,480
which you can do here. I think that's pretty impressive

1476
01:07:29,639 --> 01:07:36,199
using weaknesses to basically chain chain a series of attacks,

1477
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,840
as opposed to Persona five, where you use an enemy's

1478
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,960
weakness and it stuns them. The objective there was to

1479
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,559
stun all them once, so then you could use these

1480
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:44,320
group of attacks.

1481
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:44,559
Speaker 2: Here.

1482
01:07:45,519 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: The weakness does a little bit more damage to the enemy,

1483
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,800
but it only costs you half a turn. So then

1484
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,519
if you have three characters, that means you have three turns.

1485
01:07:53,599 --> 01:07:56,280
If you hit an enemy with a weakness every time,

1486
01:07:56,559 --> 01:07:59,320
or get a critical, and there's a few other criteria,

1487
01:07:59,679 --> 01:08:04,639
you can actually double that turn count. As a few

1488
01:08:04,639 --> 01:08:06,320
people have told me, you can actually start to do

1489
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,760
more with that throughout the game. But I'm just finished

1490
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:16,199
the first palace. I love the character designed so far.

1491
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,239
Some of the characters are more just more compelling than others.

1492
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,359
I'm looking forward to building up my party much more

1493
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,399
like you do in Persona. You unlock these new people,

1494
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,920
but I also really like the flexibility. I think I've

1495
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,720
said this before on fire Escape, but I'm not a

1496
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:35,479
respec person in games. It makes me like, do.

1497
01:08:36,399 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 2: I appreciate your cheating?

1498
01:08:38,359 --> 01:08:41,159
Speaker 1: It's it to me. It's like I have spent the

1499
01:08:41,239 --> 01:08:44,600
last like twenty five hours getting into the muscle memory

1500
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,159
and like building out this character. Like Dieblo Forore, it's

1501
01:08:48,199 --> 01:08:51,199
just as easy. You can refund all your skills. I

1502
01:08:51,239 --> 01:08:54,359
appreciate the option, but like it's almost overwhelming to think.

1503
01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:56,640
It's like, it took me this long to really feel

1504
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,680
comfortable with this character. I don't know if I could

1505
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,960
just start from scratch and also have to learn like

1506
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,600
eight things at once. Metaphor is one of those games

1507
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,239
that it's actually doing a great job of encouraging me

1508
01:09:08,279 --> 01:09:11,520
to switch out their archetypes. Those are just their They're

1509
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:15,239
like persone that come in and do their elemental attacks

1510
01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:20,159
and their magical attacks. They're healing their buffs, that anything

1511
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:22,439
that's not just using their sword to hit the enemy

1512
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:28,560
in the face. You can swap them pretty much at will.

1513
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,960
At a certain point, you also start unlocking new slots

1514
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:36,039
to inherit them skills from other archetypes. So then let's

1515
01:09:36,039 --> 01:09:38,199
say you could be the healer, but you can also

1516
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:43,439
inherit skills from the brawler. It was like a job system, yeah, basically,

1517
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:46,560
and there's really no penalty for switching at any point,

1518
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,399
aside from the fact that you just won't be progressing

1519
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:58,319
through that archtype skills. The boss fights are generally really

1520
01:09:58,319 --> 01:10:02,279
well designed. I've only done like two major boss fights,

1521
01:10:02,279 --> 01:10:04,279
have done some other like mini bosses that are just

1522
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:08,520
kind of it's more about the spectacle. And then lastly,

1523
01:10:09,239 --> 01:10:12,039
the world building is just unlike anything I've seen before.

1524
01:10:13,079 --> 01:10:16,439
I mean, yeah, it's a lot of like fantasy, medieval

1525
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:21,520
florid bullshit. But anytime I'm like, okay, I've seen enough

1526
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,600
of this in video games. Then all of a sudden,

1527
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:29,239
like the depot, the dead king will then rise up

1528
01:10:29,239 --> 01:10:32,039
out of the castle as this floating upside down volcano

1529
01:10:32,119 --> 01:10:34,159
with a lava face, and he'll tell everybody that he's

1530
01:10:34,199 --> 01:10:39,159
like he's instituting this contest for the next king. And

1531
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:41,920
then all of a sudden you find out that humans

1532
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,479
are like the monsters in this world. So you fight humans.

1533
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah it's crazy, we're the walking dead.

1534
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah we're the monsters, but they're actually monsters.

1535
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,119
Speaker 3: So like an enemys, we're actually the people the whole time.

1536
01:10:53,399 --> 01:10:58,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be it'll be like a giant bird's egg

1537
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,840
with a human face sticking out of it, and then

1538
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,359
there's a spear through the length of the egg, so

1539
01:11:03,399 --> 01:11:05,960
it looks like your dick. But then he's got like

1540
01:11:06,039 --> 01:11:09,880
fishnet stocking legs. It just sounds like a really sexy

1541
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:14,000
mister potato head, I know. But yeah, the enemy design

1542
01:11:14,039 --> 01:11:20,399
has definitely got that Atlas trademark at weird Atlas vibe.

1543
01:11:20,119 --> 01:11:20,520
Speaker 2: To it all.

1544
01:11:21,159 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: Again, I'm not trying to sell you too. It especial

1545
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,479
because it's a hundred twenty hours, but I'm liking it

1546
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,000
a lot so far. And you know, Jake has told

1547
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,760
me that the combat keeps getting better, which I'm excited

1548
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:32,680
about because anytime I feel like I've really wrapped my

1549
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,800
head around everything, it does introduced things at a good clip.

1550
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,960
So I'm gonna keep playing see if the impressive moments

1551
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,479
outweigh the frustrating moments, which again, so many times I'm like,

1552
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:50,359
all right, done with I I appreciate talking, but you

1553
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,399
just said the same thing four times in a row,

1554
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,000
and I just want to I'm trying to ask through

1555
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,600
the thought bubbles or the dialogue bubbles, et cetera. So yeah,

1556
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:02,000
we'll see, we're gona keep playing it. Okay, cool Dan?

1557
01:12:02,079 --> 01:12:05,760
What is Echo Point Nova? Did I say that correctly?

1558
01:12:06,199 --> 01:12:09,119
Speaker 2: Echo Point Nova? This? Have either of you heard of this?

1559
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,560
Speaker 3: No? I'm shocked. I looked it up because I hadn't

1560
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,319
heard of it, and it's so odd to me that

1561
01:12:14,359 --> 01:12:16,680
this has never come up before. I don't even how

1562
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:20,399
did you find this? This is a first person A couple.

1563
01:12:20,079 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: Of people specifically brought it up to me as sounding

1564
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,760
like a Dan ass Dan game. I think Bonk and

1565
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,199
Grub both were like, have you heard of this game?

1566
01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:29,279
You should check this out, and they were right. It

1567
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,479
is super open world, just a bunch of sky islands,

1568
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,600
and instantly you were just like dropped in no fucking story.

1569
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:37,079
Speaker 1: Uh.

1570
01:12:37,199 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: And it's just like you're getting weapons, you're getting abilities,

1571
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,960
like okay, you're here's your double jump. Now you got

1572
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,439
a grappling hook and you can grapple clouds. You can

1573
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,199
just like swing around these sky islands by grabbing clouds.

1574
01:12:48,199 --> 01:12:49,800
You can grapple enemies and go to them. You have

1575
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,680
a hoverboard, so your sprint button basically at any point

1576
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,720
whipped out like a hoverboard and you're like just wall sliding,

1577
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,960
sliding up these islands, just going crazy. It is. There's

1578
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,119
agility orbs like crackdown. So there's all sorts of like, okay,

1579
01:13:02,119 --> 01:13:04,560
you got this next ugility thing. You now have a

1580
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,199
quadruple jump, and now you've got this butt stump that

1581
01:13:07,239 --> 01:13:09,840
makes this explosion happen. And it's just a bunch of

1582
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,319
like platforming around these islands. And then there's a combat

1583
01:13:13,319 --> 01:13:15,880
arenas on the islands where it's like, okay, press this

1584
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,079
button to start the arena and here's twenty four dudes

1585
01:13:18,279 --> 01:13:22,159
and you're just hoverboarding around, slowing down time, grappling to people,

1586
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,520
fucking running into them with a hoverboard and sending them

1587
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,039
flying off an island. It is like weird physics and stuff.

1588
01:13:28,079 --> 01:13:31,800
It is the most dewey ass game you could ever imagine.

1589
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,119
It all feels so good, almost like JANKI in a

1590
01:13:35,159 --> 01:13:36,880
good way where it's like I should not be able

1591
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:40,079
to be vertically hoverboarding up this island while shooting a

1592
01:13:40,079 --> 01:13:43,920
bunch of dudes to it. It is. It is. So we

1593
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,800
did a co op stream on Giant Bomb and it

1594
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,239
was a blast. It was like I was loving it.

1595
01:13:48,359 --> 01:13:50,359
Solo and then we got four of us in there,

1596
01:13:50,359 --> 01:13:53,119
and it's just four of us hoverboarding around, just doing

1597
01:13:53,199 --> 01:13:56,479
crazy flips and killing everyone. It is. It is a

1598
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,640
game made for me, and I think I think both

1599
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,520
of you could appreciate equip it actively and make for

1600
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:01,920
a pretty good page run video.

1601
01:14:03,039 --> 01:14:07,359
Speaker 1: The Steam like, uh, the Steam trailer just video gameplay

1602
01:14:07,399 --> 01:14:08,159
is mesmerizing.

1603
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just super fast paced. It is, but you

1604
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:13,840
feel like you have set.

1605
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 3: A part of it doesn't seem like it. There's no,

1606
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,359
it's not like a speed runny game, but it has

1607
01:14:17,399 --> 01:14:19,880
a visual style that it's like a speed run game,

1608
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:20,319
but it's not.

1609
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 2: No, it's not like titan Fall meets like a your

1610
01:14:24,039 --> 01:14:25,520
foot game. It's kind of got that look to it

1611
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:26,920
where it's like it looks like it should be a

1612
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,319
speed run thing, Mary, but it's like you can take

1613
01:14:29,359 --> 01:14:31,159
your time, and like there's parts if you don't activate,

1614
01:14:31,239 --> 01:14:33,920
like a combat encounter, you could really just spend as

1615
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,399
long as you want exploring, like opening up the map

1616
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,399
and getting agility orbs, and like it's very generous with

1617
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,039
spawn points and stuff. Basically anytime you're on solid ground,

1618
01:14:42,079 --> 01:14:43,520
it's just like okay, you can spawn here, you can

1619
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,760
fast travel here. It's like there's no barrier to having

1620
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,720
fun here. You're just hopping in immediately immediately getting all

1621
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,640
these abilities fast travels, easy deaths, are quick respawns. Uh.

1622
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,439
You know, all all the weapons level up individually just

1623
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,079
by using them, so like, oh, I'm using this grenade

1624
01:14:57,119 --> 01:14:59,560
launcher a lot. Oh now the explosion has a bigger radius. Oh,

1625
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,439
now I've got these HG rounds for it. You unlock

1626
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,720
skins like unlockables for all the different weapons. Grenade's on

1627
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,199
a cool down, so it's not a lot of like

1628
01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:10,479
collecting stuff. It is a Oh man, it is a

1629
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,720
game made for me. It is fantastic. So it went

1630
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,560
from me not knowing what it was to very quickly

1631
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:17,960
into my time with it being like, oh, this is

1632
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,319
going to be on my top ten for sure. This

1633
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:20,039
is awesome.

1634
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was seeing a quote that it looks like

1635
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,119
titan or it plays like Titan Fall meets Doom meets

1636
01:15:25,159 --> 01:15:25,720
Tony Hawk.

1637
01:15:26,359 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 2: I think that's a great way to put it.

1638
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,119
Speaker 1: It also kind of looks like Edge Runner, was it.

1639
01:15:31,119 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 2: It is made by the developers of Severed Steel, which

1640
01:15:34,119 --> 01:15:36,119
I don't remember if I played that, but it was

1641
01:15:36,159 --> 01:15:41,439
a similar Yeah, platforming speed thing. Yeah, but checking recommendation

1642
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,479
it is a great. Oh it's an amazing podcast game.

1643
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,319
If you just want to have something on the background

1644
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,840
and just go to town, you're not going to miss anything.

1645
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:49,319
It's great.

1646
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: Are you playing on with mouse and keyboard or a controller?

1647
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 2: I was playing on controller until we did that multiplayer

1648
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,640
stream and everyone peer pressured and mocked me for playing

1649
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,640
a first person shooter with a controller, and I switched

1650
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,279
the mouse and keyboard. It's like, man, there's a whole

1651
01:16:02,279 --> 01:16:04,960
bunch of more buttons and you can ham realm. Turns

1652
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,840
out it maybe these kids with their mice and keyboards,

1653
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:09,199
this new fan thing might might.

1654
01:16:09,079 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 3: Be onto something in PC gamers.

1655
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they're onto some that's thing. I play pacy

1656
01:16:13,119 --> 01:16:14,880
games all the time, but just always with the controller.

1657
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:16,800
But yeah, it's uh.

1658
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 3: I like a controller. I like the way it fits

1659
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,800
in my hand, and I like the way it feels

1660
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:25,800
for everything except for an FPS. When you're playing an FPS,

1661
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,920
that's when it changes because you want the mouse for

1662
01:16:29,359 --> 01:16:34,199
your retical for everything else. I do really like a controller.

1663
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: I still think like with a game like this where

1664
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:40,439
it's like wall running and sliding and whatnot, that never

1665
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:43,039
feels as set. I prefer mouse and keyboard most of

1666
01:16:43,039 --> 01:16:44,840
the time, but that never feels as satisfying to me

1667
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:45,800
on a mouse and keyboard.

1668
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,560
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like, like with stuff like grapple hooks

1669
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,159
and stuff like that, I feel like it is more

1670
01:16:50,199 --> 01:16:53,680
natural for me at least to hit LB instead of

1671
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,319
like Q. You know, like it feels like you're doing like,

1672
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:57,920
you know, a bunch of stuff with their hand. Here,

1673
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,319
it's like, oh fuck, I gotta go over this. Wait,

1674
01:16:59,319 --> 01:17:01,319
what was croudch It's almost a little too much where

1675
01:17:01,319 --> 01:17:03,560
it's like my brain maps to a controller easier. But

1676
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,920
it's probably just because I didn't grow up playing PC games. Yeah,

1677
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,279
but that's how I think. I think both of you

1678
01:17:09,279 --> 01:17:11,720
would enjoy it quite a bit. It's it's a lot of.

1679
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,079
Speaker 1: Fun, all right, Cool, I'll play it.

1680
01:17:14,199 --> 01:17:15,199
Speaker 2: Cool Mary.

1681
01:17:15,239 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: What's night Trap? Okay?

1682
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 3: This is a short one. It's the Night Trap. I

1683
01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,800
was told that Vinnie has played this before and it's

1684
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,000
like a thing, but I had never heard of it.

1685
01:17:28,039 --> 01:17:29,000
If you look up.

1686
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:33,399
Speaker 2: The yeah, like live.

1687
01:17:33,239 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 3: Action and you have to sometimes. I've never played it.

1688
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:40,439
I've never played.

1689
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 2: Al Gore's wife, Tipper brought this to Congress and was

1690
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:47,359
very upset about it. Mortal Combat rating system stuff. Yeah,

1691
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:48,239
that's right.

1692
01:17:48,359 --> 01:17:52,359
Speaker 3: So I what I'm bringing up?

1693
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 5: Gore?

1694
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 2: Who's Trap? I'm old? Who's Al Gore?

1695
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:02,199
Speaker 3: Who's Tipper Gore? Imagine I imagine naming someone Tipper.

1696
01:18:03,319 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton was involved.

1697
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:12,159
Speaker 3: To my mad and friend Silver invited me to play

1698
01:18:12,239 --> 01:18:15,359
a Halloween game on their stream and I was allowed

1699
01:18:15,399 --> 01:18:17,319
to pick any game I wanted, and I was searching

1700
01:18:17,319 --> 01:18:20,399
through all these different Halloween games and I have not

1701
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,760
played this, and everybody else knows about it, and it's

1702
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,399
obviously very beloved and known in game or lore. And

1703
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:30,199
I was like to say, I guess that's true because

1704
01:18:30,199 --> 01:18:33,279
I beat it and it took I think it took

1705
01:18:33,319 --> 01:18:35,600
three hours for me to get through this son of

1706
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,439
a bitch. It is very complicated, but it's also a

1707
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:42,199
beloved game where it's live action of a party or

1708
01:18:42,359 --> 01:18:45,079
maybe yeah, like a teen party, where things go wrong

1709
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:49,399
and you hit the traps that grab people that either

1710
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,439
save the day or if you miss too many of them,

1711
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:56,720
and it's insane the percentage of uh you have to get.

1712
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,640
I think it's like if you go under seventy five

1713
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,640
percent or seventy percent of the times, you're supposed to

1714
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,760
trap people. You just lose, You just straight up lose,

1715
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:06,319
and then you have to do it all over again.

1716
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:10,520
And so it's a really annoying mechanic and poorly executed

1717
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,960
before it's time. Quite innovative with the fact that, like

1718
01:19:14,199 --> 01:19:18,520
you're looking at all these different screens in security cam

1719
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,960
footage to know which trap to hit at the right

1720
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:26,920
time to stop these teams from essentially dying. And it's

1721
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:31,600
crazy how interesting and innovative it was probably at its time,

1722
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:33,399
and how it's probably inspired a lot of games that

1723
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,920
are modern and beloved now, like Five Nights at Freddy's Right,

1724
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,520
where you're like skipping through security cams to find out

1725
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,680
which one you should be looking at it any given time.

1726
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,640
It's not scary, it's more like funny and a bit

1727
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:48,000
of a joke for eighties style humor. But I had

1728
01:19:48,039 --> 01:19:50,119
a really good time playing it. I think, like, I'm

1729
01:19:50,119 --> 01:19:53,439
glad it's in my gamer repertoire now, like I'll probably

1730
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,119
like bring it up. And then the lore that everyone

1731
01:19:56,119 --> 01:19:59,600
talks about is that this game was how it came

1732
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,000
to be that now we have ESRB ratings because I

1733
01:20:03,039 --> 01:20:05,199
guess there was a scene where a girl is like

1734
01:20:05,239 --> 01:20:08,239
in a ninety and she gets like grabbed, she gets killed.

1735
01:20:09,279 --> 01:20:15,399
It's not like syringe, like a like a needle in

1736
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,600
her neck, but it's it's it's not to injector. It's

1737
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,279
like like a rod goes into their body and they die.

1738
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,760
And that's the footage that they gave the government, which

1739
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,560
was like you have to start monitoring these games because

1740
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,680
they're killing scantily clad women in them, and that's how

1741
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:30,840
we got the ESRB.

1742
01:20:31,239 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 2: Well, and yeah, that's the thing is like that was

1743
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,079
so like you know, early nineties, and you know, up

1744
01:20:35,159 --> 01:20:37,119
until then, it was like pixels and ape and stuff.

1745
01:20:37,199 --> 01:20:41,159
Mario and they really freaked out with Mortal Kombat being

1746
01:20:41,199 --> 01:20:43,920
digitized actors and night Trap and it's like these are

1747
01:20:44,079 --> 01:20:47,159
people and where these are realistic depictions of violence in

1748
01:20:47,279 --> 01:20:50,199
something that is like definitely then seen as this is

1749
01:20:50,239 --> 01:20:52,680
a children, these are toys. This is for children. And

1750
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,760
so yeah, Tipper Gore and Hillary Clinton like brought them

1751
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,920
to Congress being like, look at this shit. We cannot

1752
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,439
allow this. This needs to be regulated. And so yeah

1753
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,359
that at the time, it was like a thirteen m

1754
01:21:01,399 --> 01:21:04,039
a seventeen. Like I remember that being like when I

1755
01:21:04,039 --> 01:21:06,159
was reading video game magazines back then that was the

1756
01:21:06,279 --> 01:21:09,000
hot topic is like, oh god, have games gone too far?

1757
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:11,960
Is this going to ruin a generation of children? And

1758
01:21:12,079 --> 01:21:15,239
Night Trap and specifically alas seeing that fucking screenshot of

1759
01:21:15,239 --> 01:21:17,319
the girl with the big cartoon syringe in her neck

1760
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,159
and then you'd be like next to a picture of

1761
01:21:19,159 --> 01:21:21,239
like sub zero holding ahead with the spine coming out

1762
01:21:21,239 --> 01:21:21,960
of it.

1763
01:21:22,039 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 3: So where'd you It's actually relatively tame, Mike, have you

1764
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:28,199
seen any footage of this game? Are you like looking

1765
01:21:28,199 --> 01:21:31,439
at it? It's like, yeah, it's a it's relatively tame, Like, yes,

1766
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:34,960
there are some like sexy people in it, but it's

1767
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:39,399
nothing sinister or like really slutty or gory happens at all.

1768
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:40,319
Speaker 2: No Wild Things.

1769
01:21:41,359 --> 01:21:45,359
Speaker 3: It's No Wild Things, which does have a rating I

1770
01:21:45,399 --> 01:21:48,600
believe of R and has really earned it for really

1771
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,680
big titties all up in your face.

1772
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,840
Speaker 2: That's what the arm meats.

1773
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 3: It's incredible they really did earn that. Night Trip is

1774
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:01,119
like when you trap someone, it'll it'll be like they

1775
01:22:01,159 --> 01:22:03,319
go in a hole and it's like what happened to them?

1776
01:22:03,359 --> 01:22:04,720
And it's like, well you killed them, and it's like

1777
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,439
but nothing, you don't see them die like you don't

1778
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,680
hear them. It's just a hole.

1779
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:15,159
Speaker 1: It's like the Megan Fox from Teeth, except it's a

1780
01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:16,720
bigger one.

1781
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 3: Yes, and I don't think it earned the ESRB rating system,

1782
01:22:25,199 --> 01:22:27,319
but it took me three hours to get through it.

1783
01:22:27,399 --> 01:22:30,560
I probably won't play it again for fun, but I

1784
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,600
could absolutely see myself like putting this game in to

1785
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,319
show a niece or like a family member or a

1786
01:22:36,359 --> 01:22:38,680
friend and be like, you have to play this absurd

1787
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:43,800
game that I cannot believe existed, and it's got good lore.

1788
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,680
Nineteen ninety two is when it came out.

1789
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, like as a historical piece, it's like an important

1790
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,039
moment in video games as much as like the game itself.

1791
01:22:51,159 --> 01:22:53,199
I feel like if it wasn't for the controversy, it

1792
01:22:53,199 --> 01:22:55,159
would just be another one of those like FMB games

1793
01:22:55,159 --> 01:22:56,680
of the early nineties where they didn't have that stuff

1794
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,039
figured out yet. But because of the controversy, it really

1795
01:22:59,079 --> 01:23:02,640
is an infamous Yeah, well, not.

1796
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,119
Speaker 3: Too much more to say about it. I'm glad I

1797
01:23:04,159 --> 01:23:07,560
played it. I'm glad that silver Streak, who also streams,

1798
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:08,840
he was the one who like came up with the

1799
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,479
idea and was like, let's play a horror game. Uh yeah,

1800
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,439
that's the secret and it's funny, like a lot of

1801
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,399
people probably knew that, but for anyone who didn't know,

1802
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:20,079
that is the lore of night Trap and the ESRB

1803
01:23:20,239 --> 01:23:23,720
rating system, which is pretty interesting history.

1804
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:26,119
Speaker 1: With Mary as our first segment, we'll be doing that

1805
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:29,399
every single episode. Mary, now you need to bring in

1806
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:32,479
a little history tidbit to every episode.

1807
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,079
Speaker 3: I have a really nice song for it.

1808
01:23:35,199 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 1: The more you know, yeah, Dan, I saw you're playing

1809
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:39,560
Black Ops six.

1810
01:23:40,279 --> 01:23:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, holy shit. I feel like I went from really yeah,

1811
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,319
I played every Call of Duty a lot, you know,

1812
01:23:47,359 --> 01:23:49,720
pull on like prestiging numerous times, from like you know,

1813
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,840
Call of Duty two on the three sixty up until

1814
01:23:53,079 --> 01:23:56,640
god like there's infinite warfare, advanced warfare ghosts, Like I'm

1815
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,000
still doing every entry then and like I think the

1816
01:23:59,039 --> 01:24:01,239
one where I started fall off the every year was

1817
01:24:01,279 --> 01:24:03,000
like Black Ops four. Was that the one that was

1818
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,760
like mainly war zone there was no campaign, there was

1819
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,079
no campaign. And then it went back to like I

1820
01:24:08,119 --> 01:24:10,159
didn't play w DOWE two. I just like that's been

1821
01:24:10,319 --> 01:24:10,880
done to death.

1822
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 1: What you just said w w E two.

1823
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 2: No I didn't, Yes you did, No, I didn't w

1824
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,880
W two. I might have said it weird. I played

1825
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:20,600
the business.

1826
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 1: World War two. I'm sorry, I thought you said w

1827
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:26,800
w E two. Okay, No, World War two, Yes, okay,

1828
01:24:27,119 --> 01:24:27,399
it was.

1829
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:31,520
Speaker 2: It was a shoot. It really happened. So so I

1830
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,199
fell off. Yeah, Black Ops four, w DOW two. I

1831
01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:35,720
didn't play a lot of what was after that.

1832
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 1: I didn't play Cold War Vanguard, the other World War

1833
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:39,119
two one.

1834
01:24:39,319 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 2: Yea, I didn't play Banger So like I feel like

1835
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,720
I've been on a break from call of duty for

1836
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,119
the first time in a long time, uh, and coming

1837
01:24:45,199 --> 01:24:48,159
back to it like Ship this well, I mean I

1838
01:24:48,199 --> 01:24:50,880
played the moderwork for one remake. I played the ship

1839
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,039
out of Monterwork for one remake didn't play much too,

1840
01:24:54,079 --> 01:24:56,039
And that didn't have a real campaign right like.

1841
01:24:56,159 --> 01:24:59,520
Speaker 1: Two and two did. But it was very much like

1842
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,720
just a series of gimmicky missions back to back.

1843
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 2: I make a three remake.

1844
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,359
Speaker 1: There's a matter of work for three that was last year.

1845
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,399
Yeah it was, but it was it was universally panned.

1846
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,239
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, Okay, so I think there were reasons.

1847
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: That Shriyer had reported it was be DLC at first, right.

1848
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so yeah, there are numerous ones I've not played,

1849
01:25:19,039 --> 01:25:21,600
but man, this one. You know, I saw were you

1850
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,079
saying like, oh, this is like a breath of fresh

1851
01:25:23,119 --> 01:25:25,159
air for the campaign. I was like, okay, cool, I've

1852
01:25:25,199 --> 01:25:27,479
always been a campaign guy more than I was multiplayer

1853
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,439
and it is so good. I'm like, i think I'm

1854
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,840
over halfway through now. Incredible pacing. It is just like

1855
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,520
a ton of variety. It is really getting away from

1856
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:42,439
that Steve Frosty who uh military stuff and way more

1857
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:48,000
Mission Impossible twenty four. Yeah, It's like there's like but

1858
01:25:48,079 --> 01:25:49,479
that's what I'm with. Like the variety. There's like a

1859
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,800
lot of like espionage tech missions like remember that one

1860
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,680
and uncharted sneak into the like auction, the art auction

1861
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:58,199
and stuff stuff like that. Where it's a Bill Clinton speech.

1862
01:25:58,239 --> 01:26:00,279
It's like prior to the ninety two election, and you're

1863
01:26:00,319 --> 01:26:02,920
like you see Bill Clinton and he's just up there

1864
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,119
and on a stage and you're like, you know, do

1865
01:26:05,159 --> 01:26:06,640
I want to go talk to the senator's wife at

1866
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:07,960
the bar? Do I want to go do this? And

1867
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:09,800
I got to get a retinal scan of this guy,

1868
01:26:10,399 --> 01:26:13,600
very James Bondy type stuff. And then the next thing

1869
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,520
will be like you're in a desert storm and it's

1870
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:22,000
like a small open world, a desert area where it's like, okay,

1871
01:26:22,039 --> 01:26:24,479
you can just go destroy these three scud missile sites,

1872
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,039
or you can go around and like there's some dudes

1873
01:26:27,079 --> 01:26:29,319
down in the helicopter crash over here, there's some supply

1874
01:26:29,399 --> 01:26:32,079
drops over here, there's SAM sites here, And if you

1875
01:26:32,119 --> 01:26:34,159
do all that stuff, you're getting more cash to build

1876
01:26:34,199 --> 01:26:35,560
up your base between missions.

1877
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,239
Speaker 1: You're more in that particular mission. Yeah.

1878
01:26:39,319 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you get the chopper gunner and all that stuff.

1879
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:44,439
So it's like I literally did every single thing on

1880
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:46,199
the every point of interest. I got the trophy for

1881
01:26:46,199 --> 01:26:47,720
that because I was just having so much fun, like

1882
01:26:48,159 --> 01:26:51,720
driving around in a jeep, just like even little encounters

1883
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:53,520
that like you know, aren't like when I think call

1884
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,760
of duty campaigns, I think very scripted, just like here's

1885
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:57,199
the part what this happens, and here's the part where

1886
01:26:57,199 --> 01:26:59,640
you repel down to whatever. And so there was something

1887
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,159
free about like, Okay, it's open. I'm driving around a jep.

1888
01:27:02,199 --> 01:27:04,039
I see two guys on patrol. Hang on, let me

1889
01:27:04,039 --> 01:27:05,800
park the jeep. I'm gonna crawl up on this hill

1890
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,840
and snipe these two dudes. Get back in the jeep,

1891
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,920
and it's it feels different and fresh.

1892
01:27:11,079 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: It's got a really nice quality of life touch. I

1893
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:18,560
don't know if you've noticed. If you're not detected and

1894
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,840
you've got your scope on an enemy, one of your

1895
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,199
teammates will say, don't do that. That's gonna alert somebody.

1896
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 2: I wouldn't take that shot.

1897
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 1: It shows you they Basically it's an audio way to

1898
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:29,840
tell you, like a diegetic way to tell you they

1899
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:31,760
are in someone's sideline.

1900
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's really seamless, nice touch.

1901
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,159
Speaker 1: I don't remember a game doing that before. I mean

1902
01:27:36,199 --> 01:27:37,840
they're a game. There's stell games that like you could

1903
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,840
see the site lines. But yeah, it was a nice touch.

1904
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So it's like that open world thing I

1905
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,800
absolutely adored. And then it just goes right into another

1906
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:47,800
mission where it's like, okay, I'm at the point out

1907
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,560
on the story where it's like getting weird in a

1908
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,880
way that Call of Duty typically doesn't. And so it

1909
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,359
started like doing something I won't spoil anything, but it's

1910
01:27:54,399 --> 01:27:57,119
just like, oh, okay, we're doing that, Okay, cool.

1911
01:27:57,239 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, as I said, you know what I played, So

1912
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,920
I played the whole campaign. I'm curious what mission I.

1913
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,279
Speaker 2: Mean, I just went into like a research facid I

1914
01:28:06,319 --> 01:28:09,479
had to get door cards. I just finished that one. Okay, yeah,

1915
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,359
that's right. And so that was a crazy mission. And

1916
01:28:12,399 --> 01:28:14,720
like even the weapons stuff you're getting, it's doing the

1917
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,399
thing where it's like, yeah, it's early nineties, but also,

1918
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,880
fuck it, here's a homing knife that you can steer

1919
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:23,199
in mid air and remotely detonated like crazy shit like that.

1920
01:28:23,199 --> 01:28:27,199
That's like didn't happen really, but it's plausible enough to like, oh,

1921
01:28:27,239 --> 01:28:29,840
this super secret Black Ops thing had these experimental weapons,

1922
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,239
and it like when you call in the kill streaks

1923
01:28:32,239 --> 01:28:35,920
and campaign you're piloting the missiles down in the open

1924
01:28:36,079 --> 01:28:39,239
world areas. That all feels great. It is a I

1925
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,680
am amazed at how much I'm loving this campaign. It

1926
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,039
is really really good, and like to the point where, shit,

1927
01:28:45,119 --> 01:28:47,239
I used to like multiplayer Call of Duty a lot.

1928
01:28:47,239 --> 01:28:49,800
Maybe I'll play more of that just because I'm loving

1929
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:54,479
this game so And I also wonder, like I feel

1930
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,239
like back in the day, it was always just like, Okay,

1931
01:28:56,239 --> 01:28:58,000
here's the Infinity Ward one, here's the tray Erk one,

1932
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:00,000
here's Infinity Ward Okay, now we're bringing in a sledgehammer,

1933
01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:02,800
and now we got three. Is this I haven't really

1934
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:04,279
followed a lot of the like lead up to this

1935
01:29:04,319 --> 01:29:06,680
one or the marketing. Is this just kind of like

1936
01:29:07,319 --> 01:29:10,359
Activision and we've got help from Raven and all of

1937
01:29:10,359 --> 01:29:12,479
these studios. Are they all kind of working together on

1938
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:14,960
this or is it like predominantly Trey Arc since they're

1939
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:15,920
the Black Ops teams.

1940
01:29:16,039 --> 01:29:19,159
Speaker 1: So Trey Arc got four years to work on this,

1941
01:29:19,359 --> 01:29:23,199
which has oh okay, yeah, because wait, why is that?

1942
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,279
I believe that's because Modern War for three became a

1943
01:29:27,319 --> 01:29:29,359
full fledged game when it wasn't originally supposed to. So

1944
01:29:29,399 --> 01:29:31,600
they had four years since Cold War which is basically

1945
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,520
Black Ops five now based with a new number, so

1946
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:38,000
they had four years. There's been some shakeups. It sounded

1947
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,880
like things were sketchy at Sledgehammer for a bit. I

1948
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,399
don't know what is gonna I don't know what's going

1949
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,760
happening going forward. But to your point, I don't think

1950
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:50,079
it's the same exact like concrete rotation as it used

1951
01:29:50,119 --> 01:29:50,279
to be.

1952
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,319
Speaker 2: Well, I would love if this is like get everyone

1953
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,159
all hands on deck and wait a few years between them.

1954
01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:00,520
Like I'm I'm sure that the money situation them to

1955
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:03,680
do every year, but shit, them having four years to

1956
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,640
make this one led to this, Like, this is the

1957
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,199
best call of dude I've played in a long time.

1958
01:30:07,399 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 1: Have you you dabbled? Are you you're a zombies guy

1959
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:13,840
at all? Called dody Zombies, I never, like some people

1960
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:16,960
really liked it. I just never liked zombie aesthetic stuff.

1961
01:30:17,039 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 2: And like even just the like I felt like every

1962
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,000
Zombies mode was like, Okay, I got to figure out,

1963
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,960
like I grab the doll and turn it up down

1964
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,800
and put inside the ferris wheel and then I you know,

1965
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:26,800
would tap into secret code and then I can like

1966
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,439
get a special dollar. Yeah, and then I can put

1967
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:31,319
two more boards on this window. I just I never

1968
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,000
really like zombies that much.

1969
01:30:33,119 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, something to do with friends, though, Like the whole

1970
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:37,800
point of it is it that it's supposed to be

1971
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:41,439
like really brilliant. It's like that you're getting six buttons

1972
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:43,920
that you can finish the hat so that you can

1973
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:45,760
put it on the cat's heads, so that you can

1974
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,680
get an extra nail. And that's what's fun about it

1975
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:50,560
is it just gives you shit to do with your friends.

1976
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:53,079
Speaker 2: Look, I got Eco point Nova. Now we gotta have boards.

1977
01:30:53,199 --> 01:30:53,640
I'm good.

1978
01:30:54,199 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, Mary. I'm curious if you get time

1979
01:30:56,960 --> 01:31:00,399
to just dabble in zombies and all. There's two maps. Now,

1980
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,880
Liberty Falls is very much like a Stranger Thing style

1981
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:08,560
small town and like Appalachia, that is the more like

1982
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:10,560
intro one where yeah, you can once you get the

1983
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,239
pack a punch machine and you're upgrading your weapons, you

1984
01:31:13,279 --> 01:31:15,880
can unlock these zip lines from tops of buildings. It's

1985
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:20,159
a really pretty clean like incline towards this church. Everybody

1986
01:31:20,159 --> 01:31:21,479
will be like, Okay, I gotta go pack a punch

1987
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:23,039
this new level five wepon I just got, Let's go

1988
01:31:23,079 --> 01:31:24,399
back to the church, and then you'll fight your way

1989
01:31:24,399 --> 01:31:27,000
back up. Every once in a while you'll get a

1990
01:31:27,159 --> 01:31:29,720
syringe that turns you into one of the berserker enemies,

1991
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,159
so you just start like hammer punching zombies. And then

1992
01:31:33,159 --> 01:31:35,960
there's a second one called Terminus. That is what you're

1993
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,520
talking about, Dan, That's that Terminus is like made for

1994
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,960
the like Easter Egg diehards who want to see like

1995
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:42,399
the secret stuff.

1996
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,319
Speaker 2: I appreciate that they're doing that. Yeah, they go big

1997
01:31:45,359 --> 01:31:47,000
for the diehards, but I just I don't think I'm

1998
01:31:47,039 --> 01:31:47,520
one of them. No.

1999
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely like a core group of freaks that

2000
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,840
like it, and I identify as one of those people.

2001
01:31:55,079 --> 01:31:58,880
I just think like it's core value the zombie mode.

2002
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:00,960
Like I used to always get really into like different

2003
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,520
modes of games that do that. For example, when Team

2004
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:06,960
Fortress had like a tower defense mode, I was all

2005
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:09,319
in on stuff like that, where other people were like, no,

2006
01:32:09,399 --> 01:32:11,279
I just want to play like regular Team Fortress and

2007
01:32:11,319 --> 01:32:14,159
I was like, you fools, this is super fun to

2008
01:32:14,279 --> 01:32:18,239
like fight hordes and hordes of machines that come through,

2009
01:32:18,279 --> 01:32:20,880
And this is the same for me. It's just it's

2010
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,399
just a silly way to play a totally different style

2011
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,479
of game, and with all the fun guns that you

2012
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:32,640
enjoy playing, but it's mostly cooperative play is the only

2013
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:34,439
reason you would enjoy it. If I was by myself,

2014
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,720
I would not play this mode at all. If I

2015
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,000
have three buds, that's all I want to play.

2016
01:32:39,159 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I guarantee you at some point here we

2017
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:42,600
will do a giant bomb stream where we get four

2018
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:43,720
of us together and do it, and I'll be like,

2019
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:45,399
that was a great time. Like you know, even if

2020
01:32:45,399 --> 01:32:47,560
I don't necessarily know every Easter Egg or whatever, it's

2021
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:49,239
four players, you will have.

2022
01:32:49,119 --> 01:32:52,159
Speaker 3: Fun with your friends playing like the zombie mode of

2023
01:32:52,199 --> 01:32:54,439
these games. One hundred percent. It's why they keep making them.

2024
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,439
They're like beloved and they're genuinely like a joy to play.

2025
01:32:58,199 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, uh So overall, I can't say enough. I

2026
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,239
normally like a little over halfway through the campaign from

2027
01:33:04,279 --> 01:33:07,520
what I've seen, Mike might have played more. Is it

2028
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:10,319
just you don't have to say anything in particular obviously,

2029
01:33:10,359 --> 01:33:12,239
but like does it keep getting weird?

2030
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:17,319
Speaker 1: Uh? The research mission? I would say the research facility

2031
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,199
is definitely tonally weird getting weird.

2032
01:33:20,359 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 3: But can I just say, wouldn't the question me does

2033
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:23,640
it get weirder?

2034
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:24,520
Speaker 2: Sure?

2035
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because it does not get like tonally as

2036
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:32,439
it's it calms down tonally. However, you have not seen

2037
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,720
every kind of mission yet, like mission structure.

2038
01:33:36,039 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 2: See that makes me more excited than anything, because I

2039
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:40,760
think that is like I'm trying to recall a duty

2040
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,000
campaign is just like it.

2041
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 1: Would if I I don't think you've done there's a

2042
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:52,680
mission coming up very soon that when you said, it's like,

2043
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:55,720
it's like mission impossible. This this game to me feels

2044
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:59,359
like what was I telling a friend? The campaign is

2045
01:33:59,399 --> 01:34:09,000
like if Steven Soderberg and wild things like yeah, exactly, no,

2046
01:34:09,359 --> 01:34:12,960
but there's there's a mission coming up where it's it's

2047
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:14,880
playing with the structure of what a Call of Duty

2048
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,680
mission is. And then there's another one that takes pretty

2049
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:21,279
clear inspiration from a series I know you love. Oh okay,

2050
01:34:21,359 --> 01:34:24,479
and that's there's there's those two. I try to remember

2051
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:26,600
how many are yeah, because it's like an eight hour campaign.

2052
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,399
Is the series twenty four no sorry, video game franchise?

2053
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:34,039
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, yeah, okay. That that's really exciting

2054
01:34:34,039 --> 01:34:36,319
to hear because like, as much as I've liked prior

2055
01:34:36,399 --> 01:34:39,119
Call of Duty campaigns, there'd be variants like oh, here's

2056
01:34:39,159 --> 01:34:41,800
the sniper mission where you're sneaking around and the you know,

2057
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:43,760
the the ferris wheel or whatever, but like it's still

2058
01:34:44,239 --> 01:34:45,960
you're going from A to B and you're shooting dudes

2059
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:48,920
with guns. Oh yeah, no, the rest this is totally different.

2060
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:49,680
Well ick op six.

2061
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,359
Speaker 1: I'm trying to even think what the most linear mission

2062
01:34:52,399 --> 01:34:55,159
would have been, like the first the intro probably.

2063
01:34:55,359 --> 01:34:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, the intro, like yeah, but it's cool how it

2064
01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:59,279
does that because it starts you and just like, okay,

2065
01:34:59,279 --> 01:35:01,760
here you are, You're in kuwait, and uh, this is

2066
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:04,239
a Call of Duty mission. It's just you know, downside, shoot,

2067
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:07,600
talk to a guy, he gets shot, whatever, and then

2068
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,079
pretty quickly it's just like all right, here's a totally

2069
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,960
and now for something completely different. You know, it's awesome.

2070
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:15,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious what you think about the rest. Uh,

2071
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:20,880
it's definitely it's it's not just like on Rails missions.

2072
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:22,359
The rest of the game for sure awesome.

2073
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm all the way in.

2074
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, Mary, if you get the chance dabble in zombies,

2075
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:28,840
I'm curious what you think.

2076
01:35:29,239 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 3: I would like to. It's it's something I always really

2077
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,319
enjoy doing and like that would get me to play

2078
01:35:34,359 --> 01:35:36,800
with friends for sure, Like I would love to play

2079
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:37,399
that mode.

2080
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:39,560
Speaker 2: I know who were constantly just like, oh we should

2081
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:41,119
do that for a player for fire Escape, and then

2082
01:35:41,159 --> 01:35:44,800
we find time this should be maybe if this would

2083
01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:45,720
be a good well.

2084
01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:49,199
Speaker 3: I mean even for Giant Bomb as well. Dan, Like

2085
01:35:49,239 --> 01:35:50,600
that's the type of thing like give me a ring

2086
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:54,720
a ding ding Like, yeah, yes.

2087
01:35:57,279 --> 01:35:59,079
Speaker 1: You guys play anything else? Mary, you play something?

2088
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 3: I have one more. I played more Nevah. I've really

2089
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:07,600
really liked it and I just want to say I

2090
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:13,239
think that it should be played probably before Godie, I

2091
01:36:13,239 --> 01:36:17,439
think it is worth maybe if I'm only allowed to

2092
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:19,279
put two. I have to think about it a little deeper,

2093
01:36:19,319 --> 01:36:24,880
but like I do think it's just an incredible growth

2094
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:29,760
from Greed and so now that I've like put more

2095
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:33,000
time into it, I just think that it has become

2096
01:36:33,319 --> 01:36:39,319
quite a puzzle platformer that is staying in my memory.

2097
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,680
It gets good and so for someone who likes puzzle

2098
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:47,800
platformers and Dan, I know you like those two, it

2099
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:52,000
is really well done. And I was heavily impressed by

2100
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:57,920
especially the secret I don't know flower areas. So like

2101
01:36:58,039 --> 01:37:01,479
essentially there's lots of puzzles and sometimes you'll be like, oh,

2102
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,920
but there looks like there's a little secret up here,

2103
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:06,000
but it's really hard to get to. And if you

2104
01:37:06,039 --> 01:37:08,239
put in the extra energy to figure out the platform

2105
01:37:08,279 --> 01:37:10,960
puzzle to get up there, there's like a little flower

2106
01:37:11,119 --> 01:37:13,720
that you just get to touch and that's it. But

2107
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:17,239
it's it pushes the player to be able to get

2108
01:37:17,279 --> 01:37:20,079
to these like secret spaces and you don't have to

2109
01:37:20,079 --> 01:37:22,600
do them, they're all optional, but getting them is like

2110
01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:27,319
a total rush because they're hard to get anyway. I've

2111
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:29,479
I've found a lot of joy and never and I

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01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:32,199
think it is an absolute gem of a game. For

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01:37:32,279 --> 01:37:36,319
twenty twenty four. So I just wanted to say, after

2114
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:40,479
the completion of Never, I think it's an absolute wonderful

2115
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,800
game and I really enjoyed my time with it, and

2116
01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:46,920
I think it's beautiful. I think it's smart and a

2117
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:51,039
good platformer, and you there's like a fun little wolf

2118
01:37:51,039 --> 01:37:52,840
in there. You can't go wrong. It's probably one of

2119
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:56,640
the prettiest games of the year. Easy. So do you

2120
01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:01,560
like visual aesthetics? Neva got tho es. Dude, it's so pretty.

2121
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:04,079
I can't believe how ori it got in this next one,

2122
01:38:04,199 --> 01:38:06,439
and like it's not a metroidveny. I just want to

2123
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:07,119
set that tone.

2124
01:38:08,239 --> 01:38:09,079
Speaker 1: Not at all.

2125
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:18,199
Speaker 3: It's like a limbo with puzzly platformer styles, but aesthetically

2126
01:38:18,199 --> 01:38:21,600
it's so pretty and it has some or stuff like

2127
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:24,159
for example, like yeah, when you have like run from

2128
01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:26,960
the waves in or like it has that too, or

2129
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:28,279
it's just like a system where you have to like

2130
01:38:28,359 --> 01:38:31,359
run through a series of obstacles quickly. So I think

2131
01:38:31,359 --> 01:38:34,920
that's neat sequence. Yeah, I think it's great. So that's

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01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:36,600
all I wanted to say. It's a short one. I

2133
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,760
just I just think it's I think it's fantastic. I

2134
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:40,560
was very impressed with it by the time I was

2135
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:44,760
done with it. But in the homework slot, No, it's

2136
01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:46,880
just if I only get two homework slots. I have

2137
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:48,920
to be very careful. I have to be very this

2138
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:50,119
is like a strategic thing.

2139
01:38:51,119 --> 01:38:53,800
Speaker 1: I too are Dragon Age, Valguard and metaphor re Fantasio.

2140
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,479
Speaker 2: You have to I've been quitting the podcast.

2141
01:38:56,920 --> 01:39:02,159
Speaker 1: I haven't played val Guard. I'm eye for what it's worth.

2142
01:39:02,199 --> 01:39:04,239
I'm excited to play vol Guard because it's it sounds

2143
01:39:04,279 --> 01:39:07,039
like it has a strong mass effect to structure vibes,

2144
01:39:07,119 --> 01:39:09,640
which I'm looking forward to. Dan, I'm surprised. So you

2145
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:11,439
played a Batman VR game.

2146
01:39:12,039 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just heard some early buzz saying like, oh shit,

2147
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:17,880
this is this is a real good one. And you know,

2148
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:21,720
I'd always hoped that like there would VR gaming in

2149
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:23,920
general would get to a point where it's kind of

2150
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:27,000
worth like booting up the thing and loading it, like

2151
01:39:27,159 --> 01:39:29,479
filling the battery because just sat in a closet for

2152
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:33,560
a long time. This is an awesome game. This is

2153
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:38,119
a worthy of like the Batman Arkham name. It really

2154
01:39:38,279 --> 01:39:42,039
takes all of the feelings. It's not as open world

2155
01:39:42,159 --> 01:39:44,000
as like it's certainly not Arkham City where you have

2156
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,960
this giant map or anything like that. But I think

2157
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:48,760
most importantly, the combat is there, and I think the

2158
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:52,159
predator sneaking around, you know, jumping on gargoyle stuff is there.

2159
01:39:53,079 --> 01:39:55,600
It's not perfect because, like I think your instinct is

2160
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,079
you'll get into a fight as Batman and you wanted

2161
01:39:58,079 --> 01:40:01,159
to start throwing you know, fists and everything, and it

2162
01:40:01,239 --> 01:40:03,239
is a little deliberate. It's almost like a lot of

2163
01:40:03,319 --> 01:40:06,199
VR Rhythm games where it's like, okay, a yellow circle

2164
01:40:06,199 --> 01:40:08,039
shows up and that means a straight punch, and then

2165
01:40:08,119 --> 01:40:11,159
it's like an arrow going this way means okay, left punch,

2166
01:40:11,239 --> 01:40:13,439
uppercut this way, So you kind of have to dial

2167
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,279
a combo type thing. You can't just like flail around

2168
01:40:16,279 --> 01:40:18,960
and it works. But once you get used to that,

2169
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:22,920
it throws in really fun things in the combat where

2170
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:24,560
it's like, let's say you start punching a guy and

2171
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:26,640
just the number five shows up in a circle. That

2172
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:28,840
means you can just throw five punches and do full

2173
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,439
on just Batman, just they're just fucking dude up. And

2174
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:33,239
then like oh, it'll tell you to like bring both

2175
01:40:33,319 --> 01:40:35,359
arms down and that like takes his head and just

2176
01:40:35,359 --> 01:40:37,079
brings it up into your knee and fucks them up

2177
01:40:38,119 --> 01:40:40,359
in the combat. You know, normally you see a guy

2178
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,319
in the Arkham games and there's like lightning mother head

2179
01:40:42,359 --> 01:40:45,800
and you hit why and you know, counters them. This

2180
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:47,960
one it shows you that same type of symbol, but

2181
01:40:48,039 --> 01:40:50,560
you just need to move either hand in that direction

2182
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,640
to interrupt their thing and compo. So like you'll be

2183
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:55,359
beating the shit out of one dude. You see it

2184
01:40:55,399 --> 01:40:57,239
someone coming in from the right. All you do is

2185
01:40:57,279 --> 01:40:59,800
like stick your right hand out and then your perspective changes,

2186
01:41:00,079 --> 01:41:02,359
fucking that dude up. Like all of that stuff works

2187
01:41:02,399 --> 01:41:04,520
really well. You're like sweep in your cape. If you

2188
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,520
hold a trigger and move your hand, it'll like sweep

2189
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:09,159
the cape to stun them. All of that shit works

2190
01:41:09,199 --> 01:41:11,800
really well. There is a little bit of a learning

2191
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:13,399
curve is maybe too sphere of a turn, but like

2192
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:16,760
it takes them getting used to basically, but it all

2193
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,119
kind of makes sense and feels right in the moment.

2194
01:41:19,279 --> 01:41:24,399
And the sneaking around, grapple, hooking around batter rang stuff,

2195
01:41:24,399 --> 01:41:26,000
like the batterraing is on your chest, so you just

2196
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,239
like reach to your chest, you grab it, you throw it.

2197
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:30,760
Like a lot of R games have that look down

2198
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,800
and grab something a gun or an AMMO cartridge from

2199
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,680
your body, and it doesn't work that well. Here I

2200
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,079
was so rarely like fucking up, like, oh I meant

2201
01:41:39,079 --> 01:41:40,479
to grab a smoke bomb, but I grabbed the batter

2202
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,239
rang Like no, it tracks very well. Like this feels

2203
01:41:43,279 --> 01:41:46,840
like an extremely well made VR game and smart stuff,

2204
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:48,840
Like to activate the detective mode, you put your hand

2205
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:50,560
up to your head and you like pull the trigger,

2206
01:41:50,680 --> 01:41:52,199
so like, it's so fun to walk into a room

2207
01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:54,279
and you're trying to find clues and you're like like

2208
01:41:54,319 --> 01:41:57,960
you tap the cow and Batman vision like all that

2209
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:01,000
shit's really cool. It feels exactly like I would want

2210
01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:04,800
an Arkham game in VR to to feel like, yeah,

2211
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:07,279
very very impressive. Mean, I might play through this whole game,

2212
01:42:07,319 --> 01:42:09,039
and I don't know if I've ever played through an

2213
01:42:09,199 --> 01:42:12,880
entire VR game, like you know, Half Live Alex included,

2214
01:42:13,119 --> 01:42:14,840
So yeah, loving it.

2215
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 1: What are you playing on specifically a quest?

2216
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:17,720
Speaker 2: It's only on the Quest three?

2217
01:42:18,039 --> 01:42:22,680
Speaker 1: Oh okay, gotcha, it's not it's only on the three specifically, Yeah, specifically, I.

2218
01:42:22,640 --> 01:42:27,520
Speaker 2: Don't know if it's okay. Yeah, works, works really great.

2219
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 1: I'll try it out in town.

2220
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 3: I saw if I could just be that guy for

2221
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:35,640
a second. I saw a Reddit post on our Gaming

2222
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:40,279
about the Batman VR game, and the post was like,

2223
01:42:41,039 --> 01:42:44,239
I thought that I had been able to break the game,

2224
01:42:44,279 --> 01:42:46,920
but the game knew what you know, knew how to

2225
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:50,079
outsmart me. And so you're Batman and VR and there

2226
01:42:50,079 --> 01:42:52,239
are these bars and all you have to do is

2227
01:42:52,319 --> 01:42:55,439
get your batter rang. Is that what it's called, Yeah,

2228
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:59,199
your batthrower device, and you have to hit a lever

2229
01:42:59,279 --> 01:43:01,640
on the other side of the Yeah, but there's bars

2230
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:03,520
in the way, so it's obviously trying to get you

2231
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:06,359
to figure out a puzzle. But in VR, the guy

2232
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:12,319
like maneuvered the batter rang in between the bars, you know, physically,

2233
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:15,479
and he threw it and it hit an invisible wall.

2234
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:17,359
Speaker 2: Oh really okay.

2235
01:43:17,199 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 3: And so the game had like had a feature to

2236
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:24,000
prevent you from cheating. But my reaction to that video

2237
01:43:24,159 --> 01:43:27,000
is is like, that's actually a bummer, because if you're

2238
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:30,920
thoughtful enough to maneuver the battom rang to go in

2239
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:34,319
between these bars and hit the lever, that should have worked.

2240
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:37,439
And instead of coming up with a clever in game

2241
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:40,920
design function, like I don't know, maybe there's a box

2242
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,479
over the lever or something like that. They just put

2243
01:43:44,479 --> 01:43:48,560
an invisible wall, which I think was limiting considering the

2244
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:51,840
amount of creativity that you would expect someone in VR

2245
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:54,000
to be able to display in that game. I would

2246
01:43:54,039 --> 01:43:55,680
have liked them to come up with something a little

2247
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:56,520
bit more interesting.

2248
01:43:57,039 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, for real life, if Batman could get his arm

2249
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,159
in there, that would count, you know, I.

2250
01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 3: Agree, And like a whole part of the cell of

2251
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,840
VR is that they're selling an immersive experience that you

2252
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:10,520
get to feel like Batman. And Batman is smart. He

2253
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:13,560
outsmarts his way out of a lot of situations because

2254
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:15,800
that's the kind of person he is. And I feel

2255
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:19,079
like a real Batman in that situation would shove his

2256
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:22,399
arm through the bars and just dink the batome rag

2257
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,239
into the candle. So I thought that was interesting.

2258
01:44:26,039 --> 01:44:29,359
Speaker 2: See Batman being smart. That said, my a lot of

2259
01:44:29,399 --> 01:44:31,239
my joy out of this comes out of being dumb

2260
01:44:31,279 --> 01:44:35,279
ass Batman, where it's just like I'm kicking dudes asses

2261
01:44:35,319 --> 01:44:37,479
and then Batman's just crouch chopping him and stuff, and

2262
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,840
like you can see the cow, you can see like

2263
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:43,319
you look down, you see you feel like Batman. It's like, uh,

2264
01:44:43,720 --> 01:44:46,479
Professor Gordon, what's this fucking commissioner. Gordon will be like

2265
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:48,960
talking to you, like showing you this like super serious film,

2266
01:44:49,079 --> 01:44:51,279
and I'm like shoving my finger in Gordon's nose. I'm

2267
01:44:51,279 --> 01:44:53,239
like throwing beer bottles at him, like I'm just like

2268
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:55,840
asshole Batman, Like it's very fun for me.

2269
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,319
Speaker 3: You're still rich, though, so they can't touch you.

2270
01:44:59,399 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 2: What are they gonna do? Yeah, yeah, even if.

2271
01:45:02,039 --> 01:45:05,159
Speaker 3: But whether or not you're smart or stupid, what they

2272
01:45:05,159 --> 01:45:08,359
can't take away from Batman is he's rich as fucking untouchable.

2273
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll throw a beer bottle at your head. It's fine,

2274
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:11,039
you can.

2275
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 3: Get away with it.

2276
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:18,159
Speaker 1: I want to try that out at some point. Yeah,

2277
01:45:18,199 --> 01:45:21,319
all right, I think it's all the games. You guys

2278
01:45:21,319 --> 01:45:25,199
want to do some emails, sure, okay. As always, you

2279
01:45:25,199 --> 01:45:29,560
can write into Firescape cast at gmail dot com with questions, comments, concerns.

2280
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,680
Maybe we'll read your questions on the air like a

2281
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:35,279
couple we have tonight. Also, we'll give you another reminder

2282
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:37,680
of a few of these things. But if you are

2283
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,159
not a patron and you want to become a patron

2284
01:45:40,199 --> 01:45:43,000
at any point in November, you can sign up at

2285
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:45,439
any point and then you'll be charged on that day.

2286
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:48,359
The following month as opposed to the first of every month,

2287
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,920
so it won't screw up your weird subscription or they

2288
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:54,439
won't do that weird subscription schedule anymore. Just for people

2289
01:45:54,479 --> 01:46:00,479
who haven't signed up yet. Okay, we have our friend,

2290
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:03,079
doctor Fernando wrote in Dan figured you should be the

2291
01:46:03,079 --> 01:46:04,399
one to read this since you met him.

2292
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,039
Speaker 2: Sure, Hello, fire Escape. I was going to wait to

2293
01:46:07,039 --> 01:46:10,800
email until after I watched Dan's recommendation Annette, but after

2294
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,039
the last episode, I realized I should probably check in

2295
01:46:13,359 --> 01:46:15,000
my apologies. I had a busy two weeks went to

2296
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,479
a big medical conference in La full of nerds who

2297
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:20,239
love infections. They actually had an interesting booth by a

2298
01:46:20,239 --> 01:46:22,960
company called Nerdcore Medical that makes a board game that

2299
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,439
they described as a hybrid between D and D and

2300
01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:29,960
Magic the Gathering, except it's all antibiotics and bacteria designed

2301
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:33,279
as fantasy characters and creatures. I spent the following week

2302
01:46:33,359 --> 01:46:36,079
negotiating and signing a new job contract and being on

2303
01:46:36,239 --> 01:46:39,000
call at the hospital. So between those events and the

2304
01:46:39,039 --> 01:46:41,840
intermittent poop city Slam of Jamas, I have been busy.

2305
01:46:42,359 --> 01:46:44,319
I had a great time with Dan and Jersey and

2306
01:46:44,399 --> 01:46:47,199
it was refreshing to learn that Mary actually loves the

2307
01:46:47,239 --> 01:46:51,000
soundboard and thinks that Dan is brilliant and private. Dan

2308
01:46:51,119 --> 01:46:54,199
is Wow. Anyway, I'll get back to you soon after

2309
01:46:54,239 --> 01:46:58,439
I watched the movie. Thanks for existing, love, Fernando. Oh,

2310
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:00,680
thank you so much, doctor Fernande. Oh hell yeah.

2311
01:47:01,359 --> 01:47:04,520
Speaker 3: Did you reaffirm that I am not upset in person

2312
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:05,439
to Fernando?

2313
01:47:06,279 --> 01:47:10,399
Speaker 2: What? No, I honestly don't remember that. It was like

2314
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:12,640
our second bar. I was pretty toasty by the time

2315
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:14,359
we talked to bullshit.

2316
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:16,680
Speaker 3: First of all, you're a lightweight. You should be able

2317
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:18,840
to at least go four bars before you're blackout.

2318
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, I wouldn't blackout. I was just pussy, pussy pussy.

2319
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,319
Speaker 3: Somebody take him home. This guy's at the second bar.

2320
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 1: Can I'm the one that's with the toxic masculinity. Yeah.

2321
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:34,680
Speaker 2: When I blackout, I just go to bars and talk

2322
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:35,760
to people about a net.

2323
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:40,039
Speaker 1: We just happened to be a fire escape fan.

2324
01:47:40,359 --> 01:47:42,159
Speaker 2: Ooh that out of sex thinge in it? That was like,

2325
01:47:42,239 --> 01:47:44,279
not ironic. He was singing into her vagina.

2326
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 1: That sounds ironic.

2327
01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 2: No, it's presented very straight. We love each other so much.

2328
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,560
He's singing into her vagina as he's down there doing

2329
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:54,159
god knows what.

2330
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I know what he's doing. H he's driving.

2331
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:03,119
Speaker 2: Well, thank you doctor for doctor Fernando's great. Which, by

2332
01:48:03,159 --> 01:48:06,840
the way, Doctor Ryan. So people were trying to nark

2333
01:48:07,079 --> 01:48:09,720
and saying to Doctor Ryan on a giant bomb chat recently,

2334
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:11,479
like did you see this is virescap said they got

2335
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:14,560
a new doctor. They got doctor Fernando. Now, no one's

2336
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:18,359
been replaced, no one's Look, people have numerous doctors. All right,

2337
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:21,279
Doctor Ryan, My neck's all fucked up. If I got

2338
01:48:21,359 --> 01:48:23,159
questions about that, I know you can fix it up.

2339
01:48:23,199 --> 01:48:25,800
Tell me what's going on. I get a terrible infectious disease.

2340
01:48:26,039 --> 01:48:28,800
Doctor Fernando's got it. Look, you need a whole suite

2341
01:48:28,840 --> 01:48:30,399
of doctors here, and that's what we're building.

2342
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:35,039
Speaker 3: So we got doctor Fernando's. Sounds like you're going to

2343
01:48:35,119 --> 01:48:39,840
an Applebee's. We had to go to doctor Fernando's. It's

2344
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:42,439
like so good. Their onion rings are out of this world.

2345
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:45,520
Speaker 2: How dare you, besmirts. The good name of doctor Fernando

2346
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:51,079
is a good man. On the end, doctor Fernando's, you

2347
01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:53,439
know doctor Fernando's, ladies, not on Tuesday.

2348
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:56,319
Speaker 1: Doctor Fernando's does sound like a teeky bar.

2349
01:48:57,760 --> 01:48:58,560
Speaker 2: That's a cool name.

2350
01:49:00,039 --> 01:49:01,199
Speaker 1: Our Fernando's an awesome name.

2351
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, doctor Fernandez is a buye one, get one on

2352
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:05,520
Thursday nights.

2353
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 2: Oh the wings in Doctor Fernando's just out of this world.

2354
01:49:08,119 --> 01:49:13,159
Yeah down there, Dan, Yeah, yeah, thank you.

2355
01:49:13,159 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 1: Doctor Mary. Do you want to read this one? From

2356
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:20,039
West from Baltimore. This was a response to Dan his

2357
01:49:20,159 --> 01:49:25,720
cooking spiel last episode. But it's a question for you, said,

2358
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:26,880
you don't have time to do it?

2359
01:49:27,199 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, hello there.

2360
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,520
Speaker 3: I used to hate peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. It

2361
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:37,039
wasn't until college that I revisited them and realized that

2362
01:49:37,079 --> 01:49:40,520
they are fantastic. I have eaten them regularly since. I

2363
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:43,680
recently learned that when my mom makes a peepee and jay,

2364
01:49:44,279 --> 01:49:46,960
she makes the wrong decision at every step. This could

2365
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:51,239
explain my childlike dislike, my childhood dislike of the sandwich

2366
01:49:51,399 --> 01:49:54,720
because her preparation is a travesty. This is how she

2367
01:49:54,800 --> 01:50:00,039
makes it, white bread, grape jelly, smooth peanut butter, and

2368
01:50:00,239 --> 01:50:04,039
ratio of twice as much jelly as peanut butter. How

2369
01:50:04,079 --> 01:50:08,159
do you make your peeb and jay? Thanks Wes from Baltimore.

2370
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:11,319
Speaker 2: Okay, I have thoughts on this? Did I first of all,

2371
01:50:11,319 --> 01:50:13,000
did I mention on crustables on here? Before?

2372
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:16,720
Speaker 3: You have mentioned uncrustables. We've discussed this, Okay, those are

2373
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,720
very good. Bunk made you aware of it? Can I

2374
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:26,000
just clarify West from Baltimore? You say white bread, grape jelly,

2375
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:29,920
smooth peanut butter, and ratio of twice as much jelly

2376
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,920
as peanut butter. Does this mean that it is white bread,

2377
01:50:34,159 --> 01:50:38,279
grape jelly, smooth peanut butter, grape jelly? You know what

2378
01:50:38,319 --> 01:50:38,640
I mean?

2379
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:44,199
Speaker 1: You? You just like, is the peanut butter flanked by jelly? Oh?

2380
01:50:44,239 --> 01:50:47,159
Speaker 2: No, I don't think she uses a lot of I

2381
01:50:47,159 --> 01:50:48,600
don't think it's not astata.

2382
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:50,279
Speaker 3: There's another piece of white bread on top.

2383
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:52,720
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, he's just saying.

2384
01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 1: I think he's saying, like as opposed to like a

2385
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:57,479
whole week with strawberry jam with.

2386
01:50:59,399 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 2: You expressive if it was that, I agree with a

2387
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:06,319
lot of this. Yeah, white bread. No, I like wheat

2388
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:08,600
whole grain stuff. But specifically you can get like the

2389
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:11,119
Sarah Lee forty five calorie a slice because like you

2390
01:51:11,159 --> 01:51:13,319
don't want bread, it's like one hundred and twenty calories

2391
01:51:13,319 --> 01:51:14,960
of slice. That's a lot going on there. So I

2392
01:51:15,039 --> 01:51:20,000
got the forty five calorie Sarah Lee stuff wheat jelly.

2393
01:51:20,239 --> 01:51:23,119
I'm new to the jelly world, so I don't have

2394
01:51:23,279 --> 01:51:26,479
feelings about grape versus strawberry or anything. So that's the

2395
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:28,800
thing I don't really know right now. I think we

2396
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,600
have a thing of sugar free strawberry in the fridge

2397
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:35,279
and that's what I use. But yeah, smooth peanut butter

2398
01:51:35,359 --> 01:51:37,680
is the wrong one. You do skippy super chunk all

2399
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:40,520
day and the ratio of twice as much jelly as

2400
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:44,680
peanut butter. No, you put like eight knifefuls of super

2401
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:48,039
chunk on one slice. And I know I'm new to jelly,

2402
01:51:48,239 --> 01:51:50,279
but I just kind of get just the slightest just

2403
01:51:50,279 --> 01:51:53,760
like just you're turning that bread purple, just the slightest,

2404
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:56,079
like the color of jelly is on it, but like,

2405
01:51:56,159 --> 01:51:57,359
no no chunks.

2406
01:51:57,479 --> 01:52:00,600
Speaker 3: You know, jelly to jam situation.

2407
01:52:01,039 --> 01:52:03,159
Speaker 1: I don't know the difference you mean jelly to peanut

2408
01:52:03,199 --> 01:52:06,319
butter or jelly to jam. Oh, I see you're saying,

2409
01:52:06,359 --> 01:52:07,520
do you use jelly or jam?

2410
01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:11,680
Speaker 3: Whether jelly is clear and it's just the essence of fruit.

2411
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:19,079
It's like the jelly like jam is like gooey goopy

2412
01:52:19,279 --> 01:52:21,520
and you can get fruit chunks in it.

2413
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:26,119
Speaker 2: It's that seems like a lot like when I get salici.

2414
01:52:26,119 --> 01:52:28,079
I don't want chunks. I just want the liquid, you know,

2415
01:52:28,159 --> 01:52:30,880
so I think I want the same thing with those

2416
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:33,000
liquid liquid.

2417
01:52:33,239 --> 01:52:36,279
Speaker 1: Well, no, that's a whole other conversation. Salsa chunks are

2418
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:39,880
going to be firmer. To Mary's point, I just want

2419
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:42,960
the wet red Yeah. I mean there might be like

2420
01:52:43,119 --> 01:52:45,880
some like collection of fruit, but you can smooth them out.

2421
01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:48,199
Speaker 3: In my damage. I could do with that sound bite.

2422
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:51,000
Speaker 2: Try me.

2423
01:52:53,159 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 1: I so what the six freak side of it already is? Yeah,

2424
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:02,720
I I go like a whole wheat with like the

2425
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:05,840
oats around the crust. I like yeah, I like yeah.

2426
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:07,479
I think it's like a I think there's there's like

2427
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:08,760
a lumberjack on the bag.

2428
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:12,399
Speaker 2: There's the one with the guy that was in jail,

2429
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:13,960
Dave's crazy jailbread.

2430
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

2431
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:17,359
Speaker 2: No, the whole gimmick is like it says on the

2432
01:53:17,399 --> 01:53:19,119
thing like this dude was in jail and now he

2433
01:53:19,159 --> 01:53:19,640
makes bread.

2434
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:20,319
Speaker 1: That's awesome.

2435
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:23,079
Speaker 2: No, do you not know what I'm talking about? Jail bread?

2436
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:26,920
Hang on jail bread brand. I think it's just Dave's

2437
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:27,640
Killer Bread.

2438
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 3: It's not be called jail bread. It's called Dave's Killer Bread.

2439
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:34,720
And I don't think it's actually about him going to jail.

2440
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:36,760
It's just that the bread is so good.

2441
01:53:37,039 --> 01:53:41,560
Speaker 5: No, it is called killer Bread on their website after products.

2442
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,439
Speaker 2: No, this is Dave's Killerbread dot com. And right next

2443
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:47,520
to products there's Second Chance Employment. And it's this whole

2444
01:53:47,560 --> 01:53:49,479
thing about like, hey, you've been to jail, we'll get

2445
01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:51,279
out and come make some bread. It's all.

2446
01:53:52,079 --> 01:53:55,159
Speaker 1: But that's not him making that's not him making.

2447
01:53:55,079 --> 01:53:57,520
Speaker 3: Jail killer because he's a murderer who got out.

2448
01:53:57,640 --> 01:53:59,239
Speaker 1: This sounds like they do, and like they run a

2449
01:53:59,239 --> 01:54:03,600
program where they and have rehabilitated, rehabilitated prisoners coming. That's

2450
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:04,039
what I'm saying.

2451
01:54:04,079 --> 01:54:05,359
Speaker 2: I didn't say he was a murderer.

2452
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:07,279
Speaker 1: I didn't say you said he's murdered. I said that.

2453
01:54:07,359 --> 01:54:09,520
You said he made the bread in jail and it

2454
01:54:09,560 --> 01:54:10,279
got famous.

2455
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:16,680
Speaker 2: Well that's not right. So okay, I'm there's all about

2456
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:17,600
us page and everything.

2457
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:18,159
Speaker 1: He went to.

2458
01:54:18,239 --> 01:54:21,760
Speaker 3: Murdering day and he killed a bunch of guys, but

2459
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:25,119
really good bread. So we used to call him Dave

2460
01:54:25,199 --> 01:54:26,039
the Killer.

2461
01:54:27,279 --> 01:54:29,159
Speaker 1: Of Jail because the bread was so good.

2462
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:32,920
Speaker 2: He went to prison for fifteen years. That's not you know,

2463
01:54:33,159 --> 01:54:34,479
stealing a Skittles.

2464
01:54:34,119 --> 01:54:37,039
Speaker 3: Bag many women. But his bread is dope.

2465
01:54:37,439 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 2: I'm certain why did Dave Bread go to jail?

2466
01:54:40,399 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, pardon him because his bread was so good?

2467
01:54:45,039 --> 01:54:49,159
Speaker 2: Okay? He served over fifteen years in prison for drug distribution, burglary,

2468
01:54:49,359 --> 01:54:54,239
armed robbery and assaults in Portland. Oh wow, Mary, what

2469
01:54:54,359 --> 01:54:58,520
is this quite the rap sheet? It's a bunch of

2470
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:01,960
bread making criminals your town.

2471
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:05,319
Speaker 3: I'm glad he found something to do with his life.

2472
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:09,880
No good for him. I like rehabilitation system. I'm just

2473
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:13,279
dying at the idea that like you called it Dave's

2474
01:55:13,399 --> 01:55:18,720
jail bread, and I do I really will say like like,

2475
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:21,920
when you say Dave's killer bread, my thought is like, oh,

2476
01:55:21,960 --> 01:55:24,520
that sounds like delicious bread. But when you're like, this

2477
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:26,079
is a guy who got in a prison and his

2478
01:55:26,199 --> 01:55:28,399
name is Dave the Killer's Bread.

2479
01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:31,840
Speaker 2: But that's the gimmick, it takes such a dark turn.

2480
01:55:33,079 --> 01:55:35,399
Oh he gotta rested. Wait, he got arrested in Portland

2481
01:55:35,439 --> 01:55:38,560
for ramming patrol cars. Oh this is years ago.

2482
01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:40,319
Speaker 1: This sounds like the coolest guy I've ever heard.

2483
01:55:40,359 --> 01:55:42,159
Speaker 2: It's off it's on the Portland to separ addit.

2484
01:55:43,079 --> 01:55:45,159
Speaker 1: He was just ramming into police cruisers.

2485
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 3: Yeah bye, And I did not know this lore.

2486
01:55:50,479 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Although he's no longer using methampetam and

2487
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,520
that he'd been smoking pot, snorting coke and drinking heavily,

2488
01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:58,239
I do not think the fame and success of Dave's

2489
01:55:58,279 --> 01:56:00,680
Killer Bread had a great impact on it. He spend

2490
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:04,039
money on fancy cars and flashy things. Wow, this is

2491
01:56:04,039 --> 01:56:06,479
a Reddit thread, so this is all allegedly What is

2492
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:06,840
the what.

2493
01:56:07,039 --> 01:56:10,159
Speaker 1: Is when is the Adam McKay biopek about this guy

2494
01:56:10,319 --> 01:56:15,439
coming who's playing Dave Kill Michael sinkerl Oh my god,

2495
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:19,960
I forgot to tell you guys. Holy shit, Michael Shannon's

2496
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:23,560
the actor, are you guys fans? Yeah, he's like one

2497
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:27,239
of my favorite actors. And I swear to god. Amanda

2498
01:56:27,239 --> 01:56:29,840
and I were sitting at this dive bar. I'm not

2499
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:31,399
going to say exactly where. I don't want to blow

2500
01:56:31,439 --> 01:56:33,680
it up, but it was near our wedding venue and

2501
01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:35,800
we were killing time because our wedding venue invited us

2502
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:38,800
back for an anniversary dinner. And we're sitting at the

2503
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:40,399
best dive bar in the world, the best bar in

2504
01:56:40,399 --> 01:56:43,479
New York and as we sit down, I look over

2505
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:45,319
I was like, that guy looks like Michael Shannon from

2506
01:56:45,319 --> 01:56:48,319
the side, and then he turned around, like, oh my god, Amanda,

2507
01:56:48,359 --> 01:56:50,399
that's Michael Shannon. We didn't bother him. We never do.

2508
01:56:50,479 --> 01:56:54,399
They've got shit to do. But I discovered that Michael Shannon,

2509
01:56:54,439 --> 01:56:56,520
one of my favorite actors, goes to one of my

2510
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:58,560
favorite bars, and he used to live in like my

2511
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:00,239
favorite neighborhood in New York.

2512
01:57:01,039 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 2: It's crazy, but.

2513
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 1: He would be good as I feel like he would

2514
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:06,560
be a good Like google Michael Shannon if you haven't

2515
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:08,359
seen him a while, he would be a good killer.

2516
01:57:08,439 --> 01:57:09,920
Dave bread Maker.

2517
01:57:09,680 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 2: Well, I'm still googling Dave jail here, and it's like,

2518
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:15,880
I hope I'm not being too harsh on it, because like,

2519
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:18,399
it does sound like, Okay, he had a ramming police

2520
01:57:18,399 --> 01:57:20,520
cars episode about eleven years ago.

2521
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:22,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking but it.

2522
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:24,920
Speaker 2: Does seem it does seem like. No, he looks like

2523
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:26,840
a man who's trying to better himself and makes him

2524
01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:30,880
bread and he can't can't fault a man for that. No.

2525
01:57:31,039 --> 01:57:34,479
He sold his bread in twenty fifteen for two hundred

2526
01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:41,199
and seventy five million dollars Jesus bread. I gotta learn

2527
01:57:41,199 --> 01:57:43,479
how to make bread. You gotta go to jail to jail.

2528
01:57:43,359 --> 01:57:49,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, except instead of police and try and run a

2529
01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:51,479
couple of them over, I'm gonna.

2530
01:57:51,199 --> 01:57:52,920
Speaker 2: Go punch a cop and learn how to make bread.

2531
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:54,000
There you go.

2532
01:57:54,760 --> 01:57:57,359
Speaker 1: That's the the first two steps of the three steps

2533
01:57:57,399 --> 01:58:04,640
of success. Third one is profit. Yeah, fucking make that money.

2534
01:58:05,199 --> 01:58:10,000
Oh anyway, I do the lumberjack bread, and then I

2535
01:58:10,039 --> 01:58:14,600
do peanut butterwich crunchy peanut butter, and then I do

2536
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:17,439
like a raspberry preserved jam that has seeds in it.

2537
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:20,479
Still like that's when you get the real taste. My

2538
01:58:20,720 --> 01:58:23,199
ratio is two to one peanut butter to jelly. The

2539
01:58:23,279 --> 01:58:26,079
jelly jam. The jam, in my opinion, is just there

2540
01:58:26,079 --> 01:58:28,199
to add that little bit of sweetness in acidity, because

2541
01:58:28,239 --> 01:58:30,279
otherwise the peanut butter is going to become overpowering and

2542
01:58:30,319 --> 01:58:34,880
fatty in your mouth and the like. To me, the

2543
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:37,359
peanut butter is there more for texture and like mouthfeel.

2544
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,840
The jam is there to cut through that with acidity

2545
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:44,920
and fruity flavor, and like some sweetness, peanut butter is to.

2546
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 3: Hold it all or sorry. The killer bread is so

2547
01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:50,239
that you know you can bite it without getting your

2548
01:58:50,279 --> 01:58:51,199
fingies all sticky.

2549
01:58:51,319 --> 01:58:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still learning because I feel like I have

2550
01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:57,039
had five to ten thousand peanut butter sandwiches that were

2551
01:58:57,159 --> 01:58:59,840
just a ton of chunky peanut butter and nothing else.

2552
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,840
I've done that. Like maybe I've maybe had fifteen peanut

2553
01:59:02,840 --> 01:59:03,880
butter and jelly sandwiches.

2554
01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:06,880
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of peanut butter only sandwiches. I

2555
01:59:06,920 --> 01:59:09,279
will say, though, like I think as a concept, a

2556
01:59:09,319 --> 01:59:12,600
peanut butter and jelly sandwich exists because it works much better.

2557
01:59:12,479 --> 01:59:14,960
Speaker 2: It does itself. I get it. Does anyone have just

2558
01:59:15,039 --> 01:59:15,880
jelly sandwiches?

2559
01:59:16,359 --> 01:59:19,159
Speaker 3: Probably well, Jelly on toast is very popular.

2560
01:59:19,159 --> 01:59:20,239
Speaker 2: I think, oh yeah, that is good.

2561
01:59:20,279 --> 01:59:23,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I go for that over My stomach does not

2562
01:59:23,439 --> 01:59:26,039
love butter that early in the morning, so I go

2563
01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:29,359
with like a jam also raspberry if I can get

2564
01:59:29,359 --> 01:59:31,439
a hands on it, but strawberry is a close second. Great.

2565
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:35,439
Speaker 3: Some time I go to like an American diner, usually

2566
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:41,119
your meat, hash browns and eggs comes with toast and

2567
01:59:41,239 --> 01:59:44,399
they serve it with some jelly and you slap a

2568
01:59:44,399 --> 01:59:46,239
little bit of jelly on a piece of toast and

2569
01:59:46,279 --> 01:59:48,119
eat it with your breakfast. I do that every time.

2570
01:59:48,159 --> 01:59:53,399
I consider it like the sweet dessert of my diner breakfast. Right,

2571
01:59:53,439 --> 01:59:56,199
It's like the sweetest that it gets, and it's really good,

2572
01:59:56,439 --> 02:00:00,960
So I consider that the equivalent of a peanut but sandwich.

2573
02:00:01,479 --> 02:00:04,199
Speaker 1: I also don't to West's point, I'm not a grape

2574
02:00:04,279 --> 02:00:07,640
jelly fan, like really didn't.

2575
02:00:08,439 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 3: BlackBerry is really cool.

2576
02:00:09,880 --> 02:00:12,039
Speaker 1: I'm only you have in my grapes one way, and

2577
02:00:12,039 --> 02:00:15,079
that's if they're grown in Burgundy, made in the cellars

2578
02:00:15,079 --> 02:00:18,800
at Albert Davilan at d r C fucking put three

2579
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:22,680
years in barrel, aged twelve years in glass and Mary, can.

2580
02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:24,199
Speaker 2: You can you break his fingers this time?

2581
02:00:28,079 --> 02:00:31,000
Speaker 3: You guys? Every time you guys made me laugh. My

2582
02:00:31,319 --> 02:00:32,800
laugh is so meaty.

2583
02:00:33,399 --> 02:00:35,319
Speaker 2: I haven't heard its cutting the mic out.

2584
02:00:35,439 --> 02:00:40,079
Speaker 1: I haven't heard any of your laughter this time. Yeah,

2585
02:00:40,199 --> 02:00:42,520
we West get your mom right.

2586
02:00:43,880 --> 02:00:44,760
Speaker 3: It's just like.

2587
02:00:48,239 --> 02:00:50,199
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's on the recording. We can't

2588
02:00:50,199 --> 02:00:57,359
hear her laughing. It's like, whoez we can see you? Yeah,

2589
02:00:57,359 --> 02:00:59,920
I see coffin fuck.

2590
02:01:02,039 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 3: Anyway, PB and J's are great.

2591
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:07,079
Speaker 1: Tell your mom to write in Wes with that that

2592
02:01:07,159 --> 02:01:07,720
sounded weird.

2593
02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:10,199
Speaker 3: I meant like I don't want to hear from Wes's mom.

2594
02:01:10,479 --> 02:01:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, missus Wes. Uh Miss West? Sorry, okay, all this

2595
02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:20,640
last one? Uh maybe Miss West. I don't know, Miss

2596
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:24,880
West write in about your PB and J stories. All right,

2597
02:01:25,159 --> 02:01:27,399
this last one. I don't read this whole thing. Actually

2598
02:01:27,479 --> 02:01:29,319
I did cut some from this, but I do think

2599
02:01:29,319 --> 02:01:31,800
I need to read else. High Fire Escape. Your Gody

2600
02:01:31,840 --> 02:01:33,960
episodes inspired me to start a movie club that I

2601
02:01:34,039 --> 02:01:36,840
run with about thirty friends and acquaintances called the Buzzies.

2602
02:01:37,279 --> 02:01:38,760
We meet at the end of the year discuss the

2603
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:40,840
movies that we watched that year by nominating films for

2604
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:43,439
ridiculous categories. There's way too many of us to come

2605
02:01:43,479 --> 02:01:46,079
to a consensus per category, so instead we just share

2606
02:01:46,079 --> 02:01:48,600
our personal picks and nominations. By the end of the night,

2607
02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:51,560
Trevor film has the most nominations across all categories, wins

2608
02:01:51,720 --> 02:01:54,600
Buzziest Film of the Year, and everyone gets to leave

2609
02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:57,520
the new list of recommended movies check out. A lot

2610
02:01:57,520 --> 02:01:59,960
of our categories are directly inspired by your Goady categories.

2611
02:02:00,039 --> 02:02:01,920
Film most up its own ass, for example, but we

2612
02:02:01,960 --> 02:02:03,960
also have some of our own categories that we're really

2613
02:02:04,000 --> 02:02:06,520
proud of, like film with the best performance that's too

2614
02:02:06,520 --> 02:02:09,960
good for the movie it's in that's good film that

2615
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:13,000
you think about the most, or film with the most

2616
02:02:13,079 --> 02:02:15,920
toxic relationship, or film you were most surprised to love.

2617
02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:19,680
That last one's good. Yeah, well, I mean a bunch

2618
02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:21,239
of those were, but I like that last one because

2619
02:02:21,279 --> 02:02:24,279
I did not expect to love fucking Prince of Persia Metrivania,

2620
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:26,840
Which brings me to my next question. What are some

2621
02:02:26,920 --> 02:02:30,199
ridiculous movie award categories you were submit if you were

2622
02:02:30,239 --> 02:02:33,199
a card carrying member of the Buzzies With love from

2623
02:02:33,239 --> 02:02:36,840
Austin Bobby aka your actual biggest fan in Texas.

2624
02:02:37,199 --> 02:02:38,239
Speaker 2: Wow, fast explosion.

2625
02:02:38,920 --> 02:02:41,439
Speaker 3: I want to car a card if we do this,

2626
02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:44,520
card carrying member of the Buzzy. Oh yeah, all right,

2627
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:45,800
let's let's write these down.

2628
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:48,479
Speaker 2: Explosion, best explosion?

2629
02:02:50,279 --> 02:02:52,279
Speaker 3: Well what makes it? What's the best explosion?

2630
02:02:52,479 --> 02:02:54,840
Speaker 1: Click exploded? That's not big but it's awesome.

2631
02:02:55,399 --> 02:02:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it depends on how big the dick is. You

2632
02:02:58,680 --> 02:02:59,159
know what I mean?

2633
02:02:59,399 --> 02:03:04,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's like fucking nukes, but like, yeah,

2634
02:03:04,760 --> 02:03:08,760
not everybody has this.

2635
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:11,279
Speaker 2: Is it the Oppenheimer nuke or the dick explosion?

2636
02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:14,079
Speaker 3: With small explosions over here? You know what I mean?

2637
02:03:14,439 --> 02:03:15,960
Speaker 1: What if? What if? What if? What if? What if

2638
02:03:16,119 --> 02:03:19,119
the Oppenheimer nuke had blown his dick off during that test?

2639
02:03:19,600 --> 02:03:22,159
Would that movie would have been a very different turn

2640
02:03:22,359 --> 02:03:23,319
tone in the rest of the movie.

2641
02:03:23,399 --> 02:03:27,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, whoa, you should have cut to that because there's this,

2642
02:03:27,680 --> 02:03:31,520
oh there's a non ironic sex scene an Oppenheimer. He's

2643
02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:34,159
reading I Am Become Death while the lady's on top

2644
02:03:34,159 --> 02:03:36,760
of him, and then like what if they're both getting

2645
02:03:36,760 --> 02:03:40,720
into it? And then cut explosion And it's symbolic and

2646
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:41,640
that's like a metaphor.

2647
02:03:42,359 --> 02:03:44,640
Speaker 3: And Einstein comes out at the very end of the

2648
02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:46,520
film and goes up to that guy and goes, did

2649
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:48,039
you see that guy blow his dick off?

2650
02:03:48,199 --> 02:03:48,439
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2651
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said we're all gonna get laid. Yeah what exactly? Yeah,

2652
02:03:58,359 --> 02:03:59,319
anyway you want?

2653
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:10,560
Speaker 1: That's got the dire straight song at the end of

2654
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:12,359
Oppenheim would be really disrespectful.

2655
02:04:18,159 --> 02:04:21,840
Speaker 3: I think best sex scene should be in there talking

2656
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:25,239
about it all episode. So like it makes sense to

2657
02:04:25,319 --> 02:04:30,239
be like, which movie has like a really good, like

2658
02:04:30,399 --> 02:04:33,439
horny scene. And it can be because it's funny, or

2659
02:04:33,439 --> 02:04:35,760
it can be because it's sincere. That's irrelevant. The most

2660
02:04:35,760 --> 02:04:38,119
important thing is that it's just in your opinion, it's

2661
02:04:38,119 --> 02:04:39,720
like that sex scene is awesome.

2662
02:04:40,039 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, best boobs best boobs.

2663
02:04:42,600 --> 02:04:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that can be connected, but maybe not the best

2664
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:46,439
sex scene.

2665
02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:47,199
Speaker 1: No, that's separate.

2666
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:52,000
Speaker 2: Best bad guy death, best bad guy, best main bad

2667
02:04:52,079 --> 02:04:54,279
guy death, and best henchman death.

2668
02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:58,039
Speaker 1: He thought of you, dude, and then I thought of

2669
02:04:58,079 --> 02:05:00,800
hospender dead at the age of who the fuck cares?

2670
02:05:01,239 --> 02:05:04,439
Speaker 2: That's probably I forgot. I haven't logged into my Activision

2671
02:05:04,479 --> 02:05:06,079
accounting forever and I was trying to log in for

2672
02:05:06,079 --> 02:05:07,760
Call of Duty. I forgot I was hostbender.

2673
02:05:09,640 --> 02:05:14,920
Speaker 3: H I assume I probably do this, but I think

2674
02:05:14,960 --> 02:05:17,439
it's nice to do like best one liner or like

2675
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:21,319
some kind of like one off just thing that someone

2676
02:05:21,399 --> 02:05:25,199
says that everyone thinks is memorable from that movie, and

2677
02:05:25,279 --> 02:05:27,920
you judge it based on the line, not based off

2678
02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:29,880
of the film. So like, if you take the film

2679
02:05:29,880 --> 02:05:33,159
out of it, is that line like fucking god damn

2680
02:05:33,279 --> 02:05:34,960
good line that's worth knowing?

2681
02:05:35,479 --> 02:05:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got one worst CG moment that's.

2682
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:42,960
Speaker 1: Good, fucking alien what's it called?

2683
02:05:44,680 --> 02:05:49,039
Speaker 2: Oh fuck yeah, Yeah, that's a contender. That's here.

2684
02:05:49,079 --> 02:05:50,600
Speaker 3: Everybody talks about it.

2685
02:05:52,039 --> 02:05:56,880
Speaker 2: The best late title card or what about latest title card?

2686
02:05:56,640 --> 02:05:59,159
Speaker 1: What is an example of that that? Like, is there

2687
02:05:59,159 --> 02:06:01,560
a recent one I mean, I know there are a lot,

2688
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:02,520
but I'm trying to think of a.

2689
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:06,399
Speaker 2: I can't think of a notorious one right now.

2690
02:06:07,039 --> 02:06:09,239
Speaker 1: Well, oh, you know what movie I have qued up

2691
02:06:09,239 --> 02:06:11,840
for like the weekend because we're not doing anything is Dread.

2692
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:13,880
Speaker 2: Oh have you seen it?

2693
02:06:14,119 --> 02:06:14,279
Speaker 3: No?

2694
02:06:14,359 --> 02:06:15,840
Speaker 1: But I've heard a lot of people like say it's

2695
02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:17,119
their cult classic favorite.

2696
02:06:17,199 --> 02:06:19,119
Speaker 2: It's a good time. You're talking about the Carl Urban one.

2697
02:06:19,079 --> 02:06:20,359
Speaker 3: Right your ridge?

2698
02:06:20,439 --> 02:06:24,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, the remake from twenty fifteen or something like that.

2699
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:29,159
Speaker 2: Not the Stalone one. No. Oh yeah, that one's not great.

2700
02:06:30,279 --> 02:06:31,359
Speaker 3: That's the only one I've seen.

2701
02:06:32,039 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 2: Oh, the Stallone one.

2702
02:06:33,000 --> 02:06:33,199
Speaker 1: No.

2703
02:06:33,199 --> 02:06:35,399
Speaker 2: No, The Carl Urban One's fucking awesome. And Lena Hetty

2704
02:06:35,439 --> 02:06:37,600
from Game of Thrones is the bad guy in it.

2705
02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:38,920
It's so good.

2706
02:06:39,960 --> 02:06:44,279
Speaker 1: I just kind of had a buzzy idea like best

2707
02:06:44,439 --> 02:06:48,159
video game, or sorry, best best movie that has structured

2708
02:06:48,199 --> 02:06:50,399
like a video game. Like I just thought of running Man.

2709
02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:52,199
I was like, that might as well be a video game.

2710
02:06:52,239 --> 02:06:54,960
Speaker 2: Are there enough though, for like a category for a year?

2711
02:06:55,039 --> 02:06:55,239
You know?

2712
02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:56,960
Speaker 1: Oh right, it has to be for a year.

2713
02:06:57,000 --> 02:07:00,800
Speaker 2: I'm thinking of at it's not like an all time thing. Yeah.

2714
02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:02,720
Speaker 1: God, I really did not see many movies this year.

2715
02:07:03,800 --> 02:07:10,680
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I could do like least accurate biopic. I

2716
02:07:10,720 --> 02:07:13,319
feel like there was just so many biopics and someone's

2717
02:07:13,359 --> 02:07:15,760
like this kind was an asshole? What are we doing here?

2718
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:17,079
Speaker 1: Oh?

2719
02:07:17,159 --> 02:07:19,720
Speaker 3: Like were they like whitewash him and make it seem

2720
02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:21,640
like he was actually not so bad after all?

2721
02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:22,039
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2722
02:07:22,119 --> 02:07:23,399
Speaker 2: Or even it could be something like you know, like

2723
02:07:23,439 --> 02:07:25,800
Beheaming Rhapsody, which you know was well received, but it

2724
02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:27,880
was like, this is not accurate in a lot of ways.

2725
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:29,840
Speaker 3: Did I see what you're saying?

2726
02:07:32,039 --> 02:07:35,520
Speaker 1: It's like how Elvis fucking Baz Luhrman's came out, and

2727
02:07:35,560 --> 02:07:40,199
then Sophia Coppola's why the hell am I blanking on

2728
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:46,800
his wife's name, Priscilla? Priscilla, thank you the movie's name?

2729
02:07:46,840 --> 02:07:49,359
It very clearly I took a lot away from both

2730
02:07:49,399 --> 02:07:55,079
of those. Saltburne was last year, right, Yeah, God, I

2731
02:07:55,119 --> 02:07:56,479
really did not see many movies this year.

2732
02:07:57,560 --> 02:08:01,680
Speaker 3: What about like a genre bender? It's really interesting when

2733
02:08:01,760 --> 02:08:07,439
like a movie that's meant to be scary is funny, right,

2734
02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:10,159
and so it like kind of messes with you, or

2735
02:08:10,439 --> 02:08:13,479
a movie that's meant to be funny takes like a

2736
02:08:13,520 --> 02:08:14,239
serious turn.

2737
02:08:14,840 --> 02:08:17,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if this movie is meant to be

2738
02:08:17,279 --> 02:08:19,359
funny or not. Do you guys know anything about this

2739
02:08:19,439 --> 02:08:22,800
Terrifier series a little bit, so you know that it's

2740
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:25,000
like Terrifier three was like the biggest movie, like in

2741
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:25,720
the country.

2742
02:08:26,039 --> 02:08:28,399
Speaker 3: The tomato score is off the charts.

2743
02:08:28,479 --> 02:08:28,680
Speaker 1: I know.

2744
02:08:28,920 --> 02:08:30,720
Speaker 2: I had not seen any of them. I was at

2745
02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:34,760
a Halloween party on Saturday and they put Terrifier one

2746
02:08:35,119 --> 02:08:36,840
on the thing, and it was like a nice like

2747
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:38,720
background thing, like, Okay, it seems like another Like oh,

2748
02:08:38,720 --> 02:08:41,159
maybe it's like it it's like a killer clown thing. Sure,

2749
02:08:41,239 --> 02:08:44,000
I swear. There's like a ten minute scene spoilers for

2750
02:08:44,039 --> 02:08:44,920
the first Terrifier.

2751
02:08:45,239 --> 02:08:47,319
Speaker 3: Wait, I don't know if I want to see a sport.

2752
02:08:47,359 --> 02:08:48,800
I don't know if I want to spoil it for.

2753
02:08:48,840 --> 02:08:50,720
Speaker 2: The first I don't want to spoil it. But there

2754
02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:53,680
is a long scene where everybody started like looking over

2755
02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:56,079
for the screen, like, oh my god, this is the

2756
02:08:56,079 --> 02:08:59,000
most horrifying thing I have ever seen. It's like practical

2757
02:08:59,079 --> 02:09:02,159
effects and it's like it keeps going and it shows

2758
02:09:02,279 --> 02:09:11,960
a lot and it is unbelievably gruesome. Yes, Mary, Mary,

2759
02:09:11,960 --> 02:09:15,359
take it off. Watched Mike's reaction as I describe this. Okay, Okay, Mike.

2760
02:09:15,560 --> 02:09:17,720
He takes these party girls home from a bar and

2761
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:20,720
he yeah, he ties one to a chair, he's a

2762
02:09:20,760 --> 02:09:23,640
clown man. He takes the other one and straps her

2763
02:09:23,720 --> 02:09:25,920
upside down to like a wooden thing with her legs

2764
02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:28,319
up like this in the air, and then he takes

2765
02:09:28,359 --> 02:09:30,800
a hack saw and she's completely naked. Does he just

2766
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:34,079
full on just naked lady upside down, legs spread in

2767
02:09:34,079 --> 02:09:36,560
the air and making her friend watch as he's got

2768
02:09:36,560 --> 02:09:40,000
a hacksaw, starts at the vagina, and it's just like

2769
02:09:40,159 --> 02:09:42,479
right right, right, right, right, right right right. It goes

2770
02:09:42,520 --> 02:09:45,960
all the way through. He says, like like bloods all

2771
02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:48,880
over his face, like her intestines all fall out on

2772
02:09:48,920 --> 02:09:51,239
the ground and everything, and he just goes all the

2773
02:09:51,279 --> 02:09:54,720
way through, saws through her head, goes from vagina to skull,

2774
02:09:55,159 --> 02:09:58,720
saw her in half, and it is long and shows

2775
02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:01,960
all of it. It fucking insane, and it's just like

2776
02:10:02,000 --> 02:10:03,479
at this party, it's like we're also like.

2777
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Speaker 1: A mid conversation, Who's who put this movie on at

2778
02:10:06,159 --> 02:10:06,640
a party?

2779
02:10:07,399 --> 02:10:08,760
Speaker 2: You used to live at their place?

2780
02:10:10,359 --> 02:10:19,800
Speaker 1: Really? They were they You're good? Uh, but they were

2781
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:22,640
they aware that I don't know, I don't know anything

2782
02:10:22,640 --> 02:10:23,239
about the story.

2783
02:10:23,239 --> 02:10:26,159
Speaker 2: I don't know it went from Halloween to that. I'm like, Halloween,

2784
02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:28,239
it's course, and then it was that It's like, what

2785
02:10:28,279 --> 02:10:29,159
the fuck I thought you.

2786
02:10:29,199 --> 02:10:31,159
Speaker 1: Were gonna say, like Hanson put it on just to

2787
02:10:31,159 --> 02:10:31,840
fuck with people.

2788
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:34,119
Speaker 2: No, Hanson was right next to me, and we're like,

2789
02:10:34,119 --> 02:10:35,039
what the fuck is this?

2790
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:36,880
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ?

2791
02:10:37,119 --> 02:10:39,399
Speaker 2: It was insane. It ever, that was the first one

2792
02:10:39,640 --> 02:10:42,239
I've heard. It gets more insane as the series goes on.

2793
02:10:42,399 --> 02:10:44,119
So holy, so it's.

2794
02:10:43,960 --> 02:10:47,079
Speaker 1: Like it's, you know, exploitation, kind of like Gore. That's

2795
02:10:47,079 --> 02:10:48,600
why people are seeing three so much.

2796
02:10:49,159 --> 02:10:52,159
Speaker 2: But it seems like, like like Mary mentioned the Rotten Tomatoes, like,

2797
02:10:52,199 --> 02:10:52,840
it seems.

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02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:54,920
Speaker 3: Like people like the high score.

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02:10:55,239 --> 02:10:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I kind of thought like, oh, this is

2800
02:10:56,880 --> 02:10:59,479
gonna be some hostile torture point.

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02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:02,680
Speaker 3: Thing perspective of this is is every Halloween, I always

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02:11:02,720 --> 02:11:05,279
watch a horror movie almost every day. So I watch

2803
02:11:05,319 --> 02:11:08,199
like thirty one horror movies in the month of October.

2804
02:11:08,239 --> 02:11:10,000
I enjoy it. It's like something I always get into.

2805
02:11:10,239 --> 02:11:12,279
And towards the end of the month, aka right now,

2806
02:11:12,680 --> 02:11:15,680
I struggle to find a horror movie that I haven't

2807
02:11:15,720 --> 02:11:18,640
already seen, and so I was looking up best horror movies,

2808
02:11:18,840 --> 02:11:22,279
and Terrifier three is one of the highest rated horror movies,

2809
02:11:22,439 --> 02:11:26,039
but unfortunately I googled do you have to see Terrifier

2810
02:11:26,079 --> 02:11:28,600
one in two in order to see three? And generally

2811
02:11:28,600 --> 02:11:30,960
the consensus is you really should see the first two

2812
02:11:31,039 --> 02:11:35,039
because apparently they like come into play in the third one,

2813
02:11:35,199 --> 02:11:37,960
And then the Rotten Tomato scores of one and two

2814
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:40,600
are really low. Plus a lot of the reviews are

2815
02:11:40,640 --> 02:11:43,439
straight up like one is is just a straight up

2816
02:11:43,479 --> 02:11:47,039
gore fest, And that's my least favorite type of horror movie. Okay,

2817
02:11:47,079 --> 02:11:48,680
it's not that I won't watch it. I'm not like

2818
02:11:48,760 --> 02:11:53,800
anti anything really, but to me, just watching someone get

2819
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:58,880
tortured and like just watch like gore is a little exhausting,

2820
02:11:59,079 --> 02:12:01,359
whereas like what I really like is like the fear

2821
02:12:01,439 --> 02:12:02,399
of what's going to happen.

2822
02:12:02,640 --> 02:12:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2823
02:12:02,920 --> 02:12:05,479
Speaker 2: I I've never been a horror guy. And that's why,

2824
02:12:05,560 --> 02:12:07,319
like when people ask my favorite horror movie, I always

2825
02:12:07,319 --> 02:12:08,760
go with the Shining and that feels like a cop

2826
02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:10,600
out because it's like, well, this is a real ass movie.

2827
02:12:10,600 --> 02:12:12,720
This is the Kubrick movie, you know, Jack Nicholson, Like

2828
02:12:12,720 --> 02:12:15,079
this is a real in psychological horror type stuff. Like

2829
02:12:15,159 --> 02:12:18,159
I I appreciate like Halloween stuff like that, but I've

2830
02:12:18,199 --> 02:12:20,600
never seen Friday at Thirteenth, never seen Nightmare on Elm Street.

2831
02:12:20,640 --> 02:12:23,119
Like I've just never really been drawn to that stuff.

2832
02:12:23,840 --> 02:12:25,560
But I'm with you, Like I remember seeing Saw and

2833
02:12:25,680 --> 02:12:27,560
Hostile in the theaters when they came out, and those

2834
02:12:27,560 --> 02:12:29,439
were big things, and like I didn't like them. It

2835
02:12:29,479 --> 02:12:31,840
was just like I feel like we're just doing like, yeah,

2836
02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:33,600
of course, it's it's shooting fish in a barrel, making

2837
02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:36,159
people squirm by like showing someone's like achilles heel getting

2838
02:12:36,199 --> 02:12:38,159
split open and stuff like that, you know, or like

2839
02:12:38,159 --> 02:12:39,720
I got a stringe, I got a bear trap on

2840
02:12:39,720 --> 02:12:40,000
my head.

2841
02:12:40,159 --> 02:12:42,960
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, one hundred percent. Uh, those are to

2842
02:12:43,039 --> 02:12:46,159
me sometimes they feel not always I don't like get

2843
02:12:46,199 --> 02:12:49,079
like too AGGRESSI about it, but sometimes they can feel

2844
02:12:49,119 --> 02:12:52,439
a little lazy to me. Sure it's a hostile did

2845
02:12:52,479 --> 02:12:56,600
this to me the movie Hostile, which is like at

2846
02:12:56,640 --> 02:13:00,199
some point they were just torturing people, and I was like,

2847
02:13:00,359 --> 02:13:03,199
but the fear of it is out. I'm just watching

2848
02:13:03,239 --> 02:13:06,319
someone be tortured. To me, it's the cat and mouse

2849
02:13:06,359 --> 02:13:08,720
game or the who done it of it that is

2850
02:13:08,760 --> 02:13:11,560
the most exciting part. Or how is this happening, Like

2851
02:13:12,039 --> 02:13:15,479
how how do you get out of this situation? Is

2852
02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:19,520
very interesting to me, So yeah, I get it. I

2853
02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:20,319
don't think it's for me.

2854
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I cannot speak to the movie at all. I

2855
02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:24,680
mean it's like I couldn't even like really hear most

2856
02:13:24,720 --> 02:13:28,800
of it. I just like that scene people noticed, so yeah,

2857
02:13:29,319 --> 02:13:30,720
it's not like we sat and watched it. I just

2858
02:13:30,760 --> 02:13:33,199
saw that and I was like, that's the most fucked

2859
02:13:33,239 --> 02:13:35,079
up thing I think I've ever seen in a horror movie.

2860
02:13:35,239 --> 02:13:41,840
Speaker 3: Just yeah, I think like going back to like the thing,

2861
02:13:41,920 --> 02:13:43,960
I was, well, I don't know if this is connected.

2862
02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:46,560
It's like, to me, what makes a good horror movie

2863
02:13:46,720 --> 02:13:49,199
is when it has a really intriguing plot, and yes

2864
02:13:49,239 --> 02:13:52,560
there are horror elements to it, but maybe even without it,

2865
02:13:52,560 --> 02:13:55,840
it's just like it's so interesting, the concept of what

2866
02:13:55,880 --> 02:13:58,920
you're going to do next is so consuming that it's

2867
02:13:58,960 --> 02:14:00,640
worth it even if it's a little scary or if

2868
02:14:00,680 --> 02:14:02,960
there's like some supernatural elements. A good example of that

2869
02:14:03,079 --> 02:14:05,359
is like from Dusk until Dawn, oh right, which is

2870
02:14:05,399 --> 02:14:08,399
like so fucking good, and it is a horror movie,

2871
02:14:08,439 --> 02:14:10,680
like a lot of people die, it's got some gore,

2872
02:14:10,960 --> 02:14:13,720
it's like pretty scary, half.

2873
02:14:13,560 --> 02:14:16,399
Speaker 2: A Tarantino movie and half like a gory vampire movie.

2874
02:14:16,520 --> 02:14:19,560
Speaker 3: It's fucking great, right, Like, it's super engaging, you want

2875
02:14:19,560 --> 02:14:22,720
to know what happens next, it's sexy. Whew. I also

2876
02:14:22,800 --> 02:14:24,800
think it's genre bending, it's funny, it's got some good

2877
02:14:24,880 --> 02:14:27,439
humor elements in it. But yeah, it's got vampires and

2878
02:14:27,479 --> 02:14:31,279
like people die and so like that's like peak for me,

2879
02:14:32,760 --> 02:14:34,479
So I get it. I don't know if that's for me.

2880
02:14:34,520 --> 02:14:36,199
I'm glad you brought that up, Like, I just don't.

2881
02:14:36,359 --> 02:14:38,239
I was like kind of after I saw the Rotten

2882
02:14:38,239 --> 02:14:40,880
Tomato squirrels, like, I guess I'm supposed to watch this now,

2883
02:14:40,960 --> 02:14:43,880
but like, if it's a gore fest, that's really not

2884
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:47,720
my jam. Yeah, yeah, I think get reviewed so high.

2885
02:14:48,640 --> 02:14:52,680
Speaker 1: No, I've just been reading plot points from all three

2886
02:14:52,680 --> 02:14:55,359
of them for the past few minutes and it's just, yeah,

2887
02:14:55,399 --> 02:14:56,159
it doesn't.

2888
02:14:57,479 --> 02:14:59,359
Speaker 2: Sounds sounds like a lot. Yeah.

2889
02:14:59,399 --> 02:15:05,680
Speaker 3: Well, Bobby, I'm gonna put best terrifyers that you have

2890
02:15:05,760 --> 02:15:15,279
to watch all three? Which one got you? Guys? Tell

2891
02:15:15,359 --> 02:15:18,560
us which one is the best one to watch?

2892
02:15:21,079 --> 02:15:25,119
Speaker 1: All right? Well, thank you for writing in, Bobby Wes

2893
02:15:25,319 --> 02:15:30,560
and doctor Fernando. All Right, uh, well, that's your episode.

2894
02:15:30,600 --> 02:15:32,800
As usual. You can ran the fire scapecast at gmail

2895
02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:36,199
dot com. Next episode will be Game of the Year.

2896
02:15:36,600 --> 02:15:40,399
Speaker 2: That seems impossible. I have Extra Life this weekend coming up,

2897
02:15:40,640 --> 02:15:43,800
and that's crazy to think. We also, so I got

2898
02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:46,359
all those guys flying in for Extra Life and then

2899
02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:48,840
very quickly I have all you flying in, so well

2900
02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:50,840
we'll watch the betting and everything. So uh you know,

2901
02:15:50,840 --> 02:15:56,319
we'll get all the grub and minati. That's so yeah.

2902
02:15:57,479 --> 02:15:58,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be sad.

2903
02:15:58,479 --> 02:16:01,279
Speaker 3: Change the mattresses, well, it'll clip them.

2904
02:16:01,359 --> 02:16:03,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have the episode.

2905
02:16:03,760 --> 02:16:10,800
Speaker 2: He's gonna get Disney all over it. Disney Magic is

2906
02:16:10,800 --> 02:16:11,439
what he calls it.

2907
02:16:11,680 --> 02:16:22,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, Disney Adult, that's what he does. November sixteenth. It's

2908
02:16:22,159 --> 02:16:26,640
gonna be our live show Saturday, November sixteenth.

2909
02:16:25,720 --> 02:16:29,279
Speaker 2: Not live show, live show in place stage.

2910
02:16:30,359 --> 02:16:33,120
Speaker 1: Okay, that's gonna be our live stream Game of the Year,

2911
02:16:33,440 --> 02:16:38,239
Game of the Air live stream. Happy. Yeah, it's all right,

2912
02:16:38,399 --> 02:16:42,920
it's a live we'll post were live streaming.

2913
02:16:43,799 --> 02:16:47,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whi which okay, wait, so we got to

2914
02:16:47,559 --> 02:16:49,040
hammer this down now. So it's going to be on

2915
02:16:49,079 --> 02:16:53,520
the YouTube, the fire Escape YouTube after the fact. Yes,

2916
02:16:53,559 --> 02:16:55,000
So if you want to watch the bod check out

2917
02:16:55,040 --> 02:16:58,040
the fire escape YouTube and are we just doing my

2918
02:16:58,319 --> 02:17:01,879
Twitch channel or are we making one between now and then?

2919
02:17:02,000 --> 02:17:03,440
Speaker 1: For fires should probably make one.

2920
02:17:04,079 --> 02:17:08,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, would we get? Would get as many people

2921
02:17:08,159 --> 02:17:12,840
watch sausages made folks, I mean the brand new Twitter

2922
02:17:12,920 --> 02:17:14,120
account or Twitch account.

2923
02:17:14,200 --> 02:17:15,760
Speaker 1: I think the people are gonna watch. You're gonna watch

2924
02:17:15,799 --> 02:17:18,000
it regardless of which channel it's on. But we can

2925
02:17:18,079 --> 02:17:19,959
talk more about that and then we'll figure. Keep an

2926
02:17:19,959 --> 02:17:23,440
eye on our social If you don't follow us on Instagram, Twitter, go.

2927
02:17:23,559 --> 02:17:25,840
Speaker 3: Check Twitch, dot tv slash.

2928
02:17:26,159 --> 02:17:32,600
Speaker 4: Dave's killer Bread, David jail Bread. Probably Dave's murderous bread.

2929
02:17:33,319 --> 02:17:35,559
He used to be a murderer, but now he makes

2930
02:17:35,760 --> 02:17:38,959
bread and fucking he was richer than you.

2931
02:17:39,280 --> 02:17:42,280
Speaker 3: He fucking hit police with his car and now he's batman.

2932
02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:46,879
Speaker 1: He does he does have batman money now. But yeah,

2933
02:17:46,959 --> 02:17:49,120
keep an eye on our socials so you could see

2934
02:17:49,440 --> 02:17:52,840
the specifics. But yeah, it'll be Saturday, November sixteenth, and

2935
02:17:52,879 --> 02:17:56,120
then the breakout recording for the video will be in

2936
02:17:56,120 --> 02:17:58,680
our YouTube channel after that on Monday, but we'll also

2937
02:17:58,799 --> 02:18:03,639
just have the audio up on Monday. As episode ninety four.

2938
02:18:04,879 --> 02:18:06,959
I gotta look back and see whether we counted Game

2939
02:18:07,000 --> 02:18:09,040
of the Year as like a numbered episode last I

2940
02:18:09,079 --> 02:18:10,840
know we did. I know we put it up as

2941
02:18:10,879 --> 02:18:12,959
as like at the usual time, but I got to

2942
02:18:13,000 --> 02:18:16,120
see if we this is just for my edification afterwards,

2943
02:18:16,159 --> 02:18:18,760
so we know, so we don't like do episode one

2944
02:18:18,840 --> 02:18:21,120
hundred a week early or late.

2945
02:18:21,479 --> 02:18:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we count it.

2946
02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and then yeah, like I said, if you

2947
02:18:27,360 --> 02:18:29,559
are not a patron yet and you want to become

2948
02:18:29,600 --> 02:18:33,600
a patron because you want to be ready for all

2949
02:18:33,639 --> 02:18:34,959
of the Game of the Year stuff and all of

2950
02:18:34,959 --> 02:18:38,120
our end of the year stuff and bonus episodes, we'll

2951
02:18:38,159 --> 02:18:40,120
find time to make a couple of those. We really

2952
02:18:40,159 --> 02:18:42,879
need it, yes, because we owe it to the people.

2953
02:18:43,239 --> 02:18:44,760
Speaker 2: Were there, we said, Eco Point Nova. What was the

2954
02:18:44,799 --> 02:18:45,840
other one that would be good.

2955
02:18:45,799 --> 02:18:51,760
Speaker 1: Called Duty Zombies. Oh yeah. You will not have to

2956
02:18:51,879 --> 02:18:56,239
pay the subscription price for Patreon on the first of

2957
02:18:56,319 --> 02:19:00,680
every month. If you sign up, let's say November fourteenth,

2958
02:19:00,799 --> 02:19:03,079
you'll get charged on December fourteenth, if you haven't been

2959
02:19:03,079 --> 02:19:06,600
a patron before. That is new for us because it

2960
02:19:06,639 --> 02:19:09,879
has just traditionally charged everybody on the first every month,

2961
02:19:09,879 --> 02:19:12,440
which is annoying. If you subscribed on the thirty first

2962
02:19:12,440 --> 02:19:14,000
of the previous month, that you get charged twice in

2963
02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:17,840
a row. That'll give you ad free episodes, or our

2964
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:21,000
video tier and give you access to bonus episodes, or

2965
02:19:21,040 --> 02:19:22,479
if you just want to treat it like a tip Jargs.

2966
02:19:22,479 --> 02:19:25,319
You appreciate what we do. Every dollar helps. The Game

2967
02:19:25,360 --> 02:19:27,280
of the Year show is possible at the end of

2968
02:19:27,319 --> 02:19:31,559
the year largely because of patrons, so we appreciate I

2969
02:19:31,600 --> 02:19:36,079
appreciate all the patronage there. Outside of that, you could

2970
02:19:36,079 --> 02:19:38,159
also go to Firescape Merch dot com if you want

2971
02:19:38,159 --> 02:19:41,280
to get some merch and wear it and tweeted us,

2972
02:19:41,399 --> 02:19:44,399
or maybe we can like repost something on Instagram around

2973
02:19:44,399 --> 02:19:47,239
Game of the Year people wearing their stuff, get people

2974
02:19:47,319 --> 02:19:50,760
jacked up, get amped for the Game of the Year show.

2975
02:19:51,920 --> 02:19:53,559
I'm gonna be wearing some fire skate merch on the

2976
02:19:53,559 --> 02:19:56,040
show for sure. Outside of that, Dan, what do you

2977
02:19:56,040 --> 02:19:57,879
have going on apart from Firescape?

2978
02:19:58,559 --> 02:20:01,319
Speaker 2: Check out Giant Bomb. We have our Game of the

2979
02:20:01,399 --> 02:20:04,000
Year stuff coming up. We've got Giant Bomb at Night

2980
02:20:04,040 --> 02:20:07,159
coming up around the Game Awards, so stay tuned and

2981
02:20:07,200 --> 02:20:09,200
all that stuff. We'll have the couch set up grub

2982
02:20:09,280 --> 02:20:13,680
interviewing a rotating cast of industry personalities. So yeah, and

2983
02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:14,959
then we'll have our Game of the Year stuff over

2984
02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:18,520
there as well. So yeah, check out giant Bomb, follow

2985
02:20:18,559 --> 02:20:21,079
me on Twitch. Hope do more streaming in the near

2986
02:20:21,120 --> 02:20:24,520
future here And that's about it, Mary, What about you.

2987
02:20:25,680 --> 02:20:29,680
Speaker 3: The usual twitchy things. I'm still streaming on Mondays, except

2988
02:20:29,680 --> 02:20:32,680
this week because I was too sick, but I usually

2989
02:20:32,719 --> 02:20:37,319
do try and going live on Twitch also just to

2990
02:20:37,360 --> 02:20:41,600
talk about you know, twitch stuff on Twitch, very twitch

2991
02:20:42,200 --> 02:20:44,799
stuff going on over here. What are you doing, Mike?

2992
02:20:45,959 --> 02:20:47,879
Speaker 1: Just Firescape get ready for the Game of the Year.

2993
02:20:48,559 --> 02:20:51,280
Got some travel coming up, although I'm done for like

2994
02:20:51,319 --> 02:20:53,159
two weeks, which is awesome because this is the first

2995
02:20:53,159 --> 02:20:55,680
two weeks we don't have to travel in several months.

2996
02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:56,639
Speaker 2: It's a good feeling.

2997
02:20:56,680 --> 02:20:58,719
Speaker 1: It's gonna use it to catch up on the eight

2998
02:20:58,840 --> 02:21:01,639
video games I need to play before just so I

2999
02:21:01,639 --> 02:21:06,639
have ammunition, or I'll just finish metaphor no, I'm kidding.

3000
02:21:06,680 --> 02:21:08,040
I'll do my homework for a Game of the Year

3001
02:21:08,879 --> 02:21:11,319
as usual. Thank you everybody for joining for episode ninety three.

3002
02:21:11,360 --> 02:21:13,319
We will be back in two weeks with our Game

3003
02:21:13,360 --> 02:21:15,959
of the Year episode on November sixteenth. That's gonna be

3004
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:19,200
the actual live stream, but again, if you happen to

3005
02:21:19,399 --> 02:21:21,120
miss it, for whatever reason, will be up as a

3006
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normal episode on November eighteenth. We're excited earlier in the

3007
02:21:25,239 --> 02:21:28,639
year that we usually do, just because things are getting

3008
02:21:28,680 --> 02:21:33,000
crazy later in December. And yeah, we're looking forward to it.

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I can't wait for Aster about to get number nine.

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Speaker 2: To each to their own.

3011
02:21:40,520 --> 02:21:42,479
Speaker 1: You just got really heated for a second.

3012
02:21:42,479 --> 02:21:45,239
Speaker 2: I could tell I'm breaking pencils in both hands right now.

3013
02:21:46,360 --> 02:21:49,200
Speaker 1: You're sawing yourself down the middle starting.

3014
02:21:50,360 --> 02:21:55,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, don't worry, Mary, were to anything.

3015
02:21:54,920 --> 02:21:58,159
Speaker 3: No, I'll tell you this.

3016
02:21:58,280 --> 02:21:59,360
Speaker 1: So I asked for about reference.

3017
02:21:59,440 --> 02:22:02,639
Speaker 3: I did not. I had my headphones off and I

3018
02:22:02,680 --> 02:22:05,719
saw this and I saw yeah, yeah, And I'm not

3019
02:22:05,760 --> 02:22:06,680
a fucking idiot.

3020
02:22:06,799 --> 02:22:12,239
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, it could be anything. If I didn't realize

3021
02:22:12,239 --> 02:22:15,239
as a whole, there's a whole, there's a whole.

3022
02:22:16,600 --> 02:22:19,280
Speaker 2: You really, who's just a mime with that man? He

3023
02:22:19,440 --> 02:22:20,360
kind of a clown mime?

3024
02:22:21,399 --> 02:22:23,239
Speaker 3: Know what this means?

3025
02:22:23,280 --> 02:22:25,600
Speaker 2: What does it mean? Mary? You're so smart?

3026
02:22:26,159 --> 02:22:31,680
Speaker 3: He saw a person in half. Their legs probably are

3027
02:22:31,719 --> 02:22:32,360
their arms.

3028
02:22:32,639 --> 02:22:36,520
Speaker 2: That's not all the details. It's a murky. It seems

3029
02:22:36,520 --> 02:22:37,799
like it's a murky for you.

3030
02:22:37,799 --> 02:22:40,399
Speaker 1: You didn't hear how long it was or what how

3031
02:22:40,440 --> 02:22:41,239
he sounds low.

3032
02:22:41,280 --> 02:22:42,840
Speaker 3: He was my headphones off ten minutes.

3033
02:22:44,200 --> 02:22:45,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't really tell her everything.

3034
02:22:46,120 --> 02:22:48,920
Speaker 2: There are some cut details you don't know.

3035
02:22:49,760 --> 02:22:52,079
Speaker 3: Oh, like her titties were flapping in the wind when

3036
02:22:52,079 --> 02:22:52,639
it was happening.

3037
02:22:52,719 --> 02:22:57,000
Speaker 2: Well, that does happen. Although I didn't say it, that

3038
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absolutely happens.

3039
02:22:58,280 --> 02:23:01,159
Speaker 1: I didn't realize the whole, wicked, very specific thing happens.

3040
02:23:01,520 --> 02:23:03,959
There's a whole Wikipedia entry for death by sawing from

3041
02:23:03,959 --> 02:23:05,159
like click to.

3042
02:23:05,280 --> 02:23:06,760
Speaker 2: When I was looking at the Wikipedia, it's like, Wow,

3043
02:23:06,799 --> 02:23:08,879
they people did this for Shoot, that's fucking crazy.

3044
02:23:09,559 --> 02:23:11,840
Speaker 1: It's like being drawn and quartered. That's fucked up too.

3045
02:23:12,040 --> 02:23:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like people just did shitty things back then.

3046
02:23:14,600 --> 02:23:16,680
I'm glad that doesn't happen as much.

3047
02:23:18,120 --> 02:23:18,920
Speaker 3: All the time.

3048
02:23:19,040 --> 02:23:23,639
Speaker 1: Dan or pulled apart by horses. I think that might

3049
02:23:23,680 --> 02:23:25,680
have been apocryphal. I also could be very wrong and

3050
02:23:25,680 --> 02:23:27,520
that might have actually happened. I don't know.

3051
02:23:27,959 --> 02:23:29,079
Speaker 2: They should stop doing that.

3052
02:23:29,120 --> 02:23:30,239
Speaker 1: We just have guns now.

3053
02:23:30,959 --> 02:23:33,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems better. I don't know.

3054
02:23:35,399 --> 02:23:41,040
Speaker 3: All right, Thanks for everybody, Dan, While, while we're on

3055
02:23:41,079 --> 02:23:43,799
the way out, what do you think of immigration and

3056
02:23:44,239 --> 02:23:51,239
the NRA supporter? Dan Reiker sign, I had no idea

3057
02:23:51,319 --> 02:23:52,600
that you were such a cardoon.

3058
02:23:54,120 --> 02:23:58,440
Speaker 2: Between drawing and quartering and sawing people in half by

3059
02:23:58,440 --> 02:24:02,200
their privates, guns seem like a better way to go

3060
02:24:02,440 --> 02:24:05,239
if I had to choose one of the three, That's

3061
02:24:05,280 --> 02:24:11,000
all I'm saying, rather not have any of them.

3062
02:24:11,239 --> 02:24:12,920
Speaker 3: You've obviously never been shot in the dick.

3063
02:24:13,799 --> 02:24:16,920
Speaker 2: That sounds bad, too, well, it all sounds.

3064
02:24:16,760 --> 02:24:18,719
Speaker 3: You should have thought about that before you joined the

3065
02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:19,040
n RA.

3066
02:24:19,079 --> 02:24:20,520
Speaker 2: A Oh, dear.

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02:24:22,399 --> 02:24:25,680
Speaker 1: By the next episode. See for Game of the Year.