Speaker 1: Welcome to wager Talk Today, the gold standard of sports
betting shows, where we talked the talk and walk the
walk at five dollars. Tuesday, we got the NBA Cup Final.
Spurs take on the Knicks in a big, big game.
Jesse Schule is gonna break that one down. He's gonna
give us two college football teams to fade going into bullseason.
Brian's gonna hit the veterans balla Troy and Jacksonville State,
and we're gonna have Carmine joining us to go over
rams in Seahawks. Dan gonna bring you in. What did
you think of the game last night?
Speaker 2: It was the football game that was played on a
Monday night football. That's that's what we could say about
that one. But all the trends were true, right. Tua
looked freezing the Steelers and Mike Tomlin and they just
don't lose games on Monday night football, and kind of
gott to agree with Troy. How that game ended was
absolutely bizarre. The game was out of hand, and then
the Dolphins were like, oh shit, maybe people in Miami
the over, we should probably start scoring here randomly, but.
Speaker 3: There was no sense of urgency to the scoring. It was.
It was an ugly Monday night football game.
Speaker 2: But you know, the the the plays that we were
talking about here Andy, Darnell Washington over the one and
a half were on a three and oh streak on
WTF or LFG.
Speaker 3: So uh, I liked how Monday Night cracked out.
Speaker 1: I had a brutal beat. I had to under twenty
seven and a half past attempts. He goes over on
the very last play of the game. He had I
think he had ten going into the fourth quarter and
somehow landed on landed on twenty eight. It was Yeah,
that was. That was That was the worst football loss
of the season.
Speaker 2: That was.
Speaker 3: That's one of the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's one of those in the in the
gambling group chat, you know, probably the discord that you
have that we just posted there in the chat or
you know, with just your buddies, that's where everyone's like,
oh my god, we're gonna win this one. This is
so we he only has ten, and they already start
cashing the tickets a little too early. They play a
little they pull a little Dave Portnoy, Andy and they
say belts to asses and then and then it doesn't
work out, man. But but Yeah, we turned the page.
Can't believe it's Week sixteen in NFL action already. We're
gonna preview this Rams game coming up. Carmine's gonna be
breaking that one down. We get Carmine because Pres broke
his equipment while traveling. Broke, which, which to me, Andy
means I want to be on the ski slopes as
long as I possibly can.
Speaker 3: So my CAMRA's.
Speaker 1: Purposely left it at home. Yes, forgot, Well, check all
the boxes. All right, let's bring in. Let's bring in Jesse.
We got to talk about this NBA Cup. Then we
got to talk a couple of college football teams. Jesse, welcome.
Hope you're feeling better, my friend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had some broken equipment there last week.
Speaker 2: Oh we heard broken equipment top and bottom according to
the according to the Wager Talk Today Slack channel.
Speaker 4: Yes, rumor has it. Rumor has it.
Speaker 1: Well, two teams that are not broken that are playing
incredible basketball right now are the Spurs and the Knicks.
And we have this NBA Cup here, Jesse. This has
been a kind of a home run for the NBA.
These teams are playing all their guys lots of minutes.
It's playoff intensity. Basketball, and we got two of the
best teams. Wemby comes back, helps beat the Thunder and
they move to the championship. Small favorite here on the
Knicks at minus two and a half. Money is coming
in on the over. It's over under stains at two
thirty four and a half. What are we doing with
the NBA Cup tonight?
Speaker 4: Well, Andy, I don't want to sound too much like
a boomer, but the NBA Cup for me, is still
something I'm a little skeptical of. This is just the
third time we'll see an NBA Cup final, and I'm
still figuring out how to handicap this tournament. And I
treat it sort of like I treat college football bowl games.
I want to find out who I think wants it more,
who's more excited, who gets up more for these games.
I gotta say both these teams looked like they got
up for their semi final games. But you really got
to give credit to the Spurs who knocked off the
defending champs, and that was an impressive When both these
teams come in with the same record eighteen and seven.
The Knicks are better against the spread seventeen and eight
against the spread. You could make the argument that with
Wemby out, maybe the Spurs would have a better record
if he was healthy. Wemby was back though. Against Oklahoma
City he played twenty two minutes scored So he played
twenty one minutes, scored twenty two points, pulled in nine boards.
Very impressive win over the Thunder for the Spurs, but
the Knicks equally as impressive against the Magic, a double
digit blowout win.
Speaker 3: The Knicks.
Speaker 4: I think of this team as the kind of team
that would rather be in the Eastern Conference Final than
the NBA Cup Final. I'm sure they're going to come
to play tonight. I think both these teams are going
to want it, but I think the Spurs are gonna
want it a little bit more. They're the younger team.
I got a quote from head coach Mike Brown of
the Knicks saying that originally when they told him about
the NBA Cup, he was like, oh, man, for what, what?
What are we doing this for? I gotta juggle practice
and these games. And he said after he lamented the idea,
now he's grown to appreciate the NBA Cup, And he said, yes,
shows what do I know? But I don't know the
fact that he originally didn't like it that much. The
fact that the Spurs are perhaps too young to know better,
and the fact that Wemby's back and the venue in
Las Vegas neutral site, I think it could be a
case of wrong team favored. So give me the Spurs
plus the two and a half points.
Speaker 1: I I'll go ahead to head with you. It's the
NBA Cup. Let's go, let's go, let's go ahead to head. Yeah,
what would the championship? That's the point. This is the
nixiest thing ever to win the NBA Cup and not
win the NBA Finals. So I I have, I have
the Knicks kind of come out. I I know Wemby played.
I wonder if them beating the Thunder was their cup.
I mean that that's that's a huge bragging right to say,
why not we knocked off the Thunder and Wimby's you know,
first came back. He also did, he came off the bench.
He's gonna have limited minutes for a bit. They got
bigger fish to fry. Both these teams do. But I
just I can see the Knicks winning this one and
then fizzling out in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: You know what, but this smells like to me, gentlemen,
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Speaker 3: That's what this sounds like to me. We got a
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Speaker 2: Andy has taken the Knicks and we got Jesse taking
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Speaker 2: And Andy, we got some fade teams that we're gonna
get to with Jesse here talk some.
Speaker 3: Uh some college football coming up here.
Speaker 2: But I did want to mention you, and I forgot
on yesterday's show to give a shout out to Danny
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Speaker 3: There Andy.
Speaker 2: So now that we got a little head to head action,
let's talk some teams to fade.
Speaker 3: I always look forward to this, Jesse.
Speaker 2: You come on and it's never when we first introduced
this idea was let us know which teams we're gonna
be betting on or fading. Jesse has never come on
here and made a case for bet on. It is
full fade ahead. Let's do a little bowl game edition
of that. My friend, who are we fading? Coming up
in some college football bowl action?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's kind of ideal. When it gets
to bullseason, you're not really betting on teams, You're you're
fading good boys. I mean, you got all these teams
losing their head coaches, you got all the especially in
this era with all the opt outs, it's definitely fading
teams more than it's betting on teams. And the first
one we got to look at is the Gasparilla Bowl
in Tampa, and it's Memphis taking on nc State. Memphis
had the better record in the regular season eight and four,
eight and four against the spread of course, Memphis out
of the American maybe a softer schedule. NC State seven
and five, six and six against the spread, but NC
State had some quality wins over Georgia Tech. They were
the first team to beat Georgia Tech this year. They
did beat Virginia, one of the few teams that beat Virginia.
And they did beat Florida State, who everybody seemed to
beat Florida State, but still Florida. Oddly, Florida State is
still a tough team to beat, even though they lost
so many games. I don't know. I don't even know
how I reconcile that, but perhaps somebody out there knows
what I'm talking about. The big fade here though, The
big reason for the fade is Tiger's head coach Ryan
silver Field takes the job at Arkansas. I don't know
if he's taken any players with them, but I got
to imagine that everybody for Memphis is looking to transfer
out if they have any other options. They've got a
ton of injuries and guys that are going to be missing.
There is a few guys opting out for NC State.
There is probably a few guys that are going to
hit to the transfer portal. For NC State. But the
quarterback CJ. Bailey, who's the most significant player on the field,
is he sounds like a guy that's gonna stay with
NC State, but he's definitely playing the bowl game. He
said he's excited about it. He's he's looking forward to
getting some warm weather because apparently the weather in state
is quite cool this time of year. Dave Dorn is
a guy that gets up for bowl games. He says
he viewsed these games as a reward that you've earned.
Speaker 3: And CJ.
Speaker 4: Bailey said he's never won a bowl game. He needs
to win a bowl game. So very contrasting ways that
these teams are gonna look at this game, it seems
very one sided for NC State. So I'll lay the
four and a half points with the wolf Pack.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you ask about is a coach going
to take some players, the answer is always yes. Like
I feel like that's just it's a package deal at
this point.
Speaker 4: Where well, and let's face it, if you're a team
in the American you lose anybody who's any good is
transferring out anyways every year, And with NC State, the
way I look at them is they're sort of in that,
you know, anybody who's a superstar is probably gonna leave.
But these sort of average to high end players, they're
in a power conference, there's a chance they stick around.
Speaker 2: So the second team that you have here, we have
a super fan in the chat, r j Arson Know
who's a great fan of the show, who's always commenting
and always giving good bets on LSU, much like my
against the spread record with my Philadelphia Eagles betting on them,
betting against them. I've only missed a game. RJ's only
missed a handful of games, so I'm wondering what he thinks.
But for you, Jesse, LSU coming up. Is it go
Tigers or no Tigers? How are we betting this one?
Speaker 4: Well, the Tigers are going somewhere, but most of them
aren't going to the bowl game, including Lane Kiffin, including
wit Weeks, including Garrett Nussmeyer. There's gonna be at least
a dozen starters that aren't going to show up for
this game. They're gonna have an interim head coach, and
with everything going on at LSU, with the shuffling of
coaches and players, and Lane's got his handful with the
transfer portal, definitely a fade this team and A. LSU
fans aren't going to give a damn about the Texas
Bowl in Houston at this point, whereas Willie Fritz and
the Cougars, I mean, they had a pretty solid season
in the Big Twelve. Fritz has an excellent bowl record.
He's won four or five bowl appearances. Connor Wegman, the quarterback,
former Texas A and M quarterback. He was asked about
whether he plans to return next year and he says, hell, yeah,
he's a Texas guy and he's very happy to be
in Houston. So this just looks like one team that's
going to have more of their starters and Houston very
good defensively. They've got some quality wins on the season.
They beat Baylor, Arizona State, the defending Big Twelve champs.
They beat Arizona. They're a capable team. They're at home
in their home state taking on an LSU team that's
got other things on their mind.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's hard to argue that this is
like one of the most acted, non interested teams and
in any bowl. I like, if you're doing power rankings
on teams that don't give an f about it, LSU
gotta be up near the top, so for sure, got
agree with that. Looks like looking at the lines here,
Houston minus three, there's still some minus two and a
half's out there over Under sitting pretty pretty steady at
forty one and a half. I would recommend if you
want to bet on Houston, get on it now because
it looks like money's coming in one way for trafficking.
RJ even will tell you stay away from from LSU
Willie Fritz, Baby.
Speaker 3: We're rolling, Roll, We Roll, Jesse. What do you got
going today?
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Speaker 2: The money line Master, Andy, that is Jesse Schule right there,
and the fade King. We won't be fading you, Jesse.
Best of luck, brother, and I'm glad you're feeling better much.
We love Jesse at one hundred percent. Didn't even sound
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do a steam report for today. We'll start with basketball.
There really isn't much steam coming in on this game
for San Antonio, New York. The only thing would be
the opening line on this total was two twenty seven
and a half. They are all in on the over.
They've played this all the way up to two thirty four.
I see two thirty four and a half's coming. So
if you want unders, wait, if you want overs, you
better get on it now. But I would recommend laying
off because you missed the big line movement doing college
basketball here not a whole lot. I see money coming
in on Evansville at Belmont, see a little bit coming
in on Saint John's. They liked them to win by margin.
Louisville opened up as a favorite, but they are all
over Tennessee. Tennessee has already flipped to the minus two
and a half favorite. Seeing some money come in on
Right State and then later tonight they love nor Texas
Tech big over Northern Colorado. They've played the twenty two,
the twenty three, the twenty four, and the twenty five.
They are twenty five and a half. So if you
if you like to lay big time points, that would
be one I would recommend going towards. And we want
to look at football. We're gonna get Brian's take on this,
Troy Jacksonville, but basically with the with the situation with
the transfer portal, Troy opened up his favorite. But now
that's a Jacksonville state being a favorite money coming in
on old dominion. I'm sure we'll get thoughts on that tomorrow.
But other than that, you kind of gotta wait on
some of these lines. With the Bulls, you try and
want to get the best of the number. You do,
it's the name of the game, but then you can
get bit by it. So it's the same with Props.
I don't want to play Props the night before. I
can only play him, you know, the day of, And
so I'm not you know, you know, do what you want.
And maybe we got a good read on certain games,
but there are some of these games, these Bowl games,
where I say, you know what, it's just better to wait.
But that's my that's my one man's opinion. That's completely
one man's opinion. We have the same game parlay that's
up for all access clients in this game. So I
think this game is bettable from a certain spot, but
I wouldn't think it was the way we bet it
a few days ago, but things have changed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Andy, the only other one that I guess
probably is worth mentioning is just that Thursday night football game.
It's it's basically been all RAMS since since we've seen
this line open up. It'll be nice to see what
Brian's take is on this game too, But really, you
got you got pick them prices. The graphic that we're
gonna have says pick them. But basically we're seeing Rams
up to one and a half point favorites in some
spots on these public books. So been all RAMS looking
forward to this big Thursday night football matchup.
Speaker 1: Well, let's bring in Brian. Let's talk to him about
uh to do this game?
Speaker 3: There he is between two thorns, Brian for sore eyes.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's talk about this Troy Jacksonville State game. Obviously
the transfer portal's had a big effect, the lines already moved.
What do we do with this game tonight? Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, So let's start with the fact both these teams
lost their respective conference championship games Sun Belt Troy did
cover spread as massive twenty four and a half point
dogs at James Madison Jacksonville State. Meanwhile, they lose at
home nineteen fifteen to a revenge minded Kennesaw State team
and did not cover. Truth be told, Andy and Dan,
these were two teams I would have preferred to fade
this bowl season. So a little unfortunate that they're matched
up here in the Salute to Veterans Bowl. But digging
into the matchup, Jacksonville State is going to have a
big edge running the football. This is an offense guys
that has now ranked in the top four nationally nationally
back to back years in rushing yards per game. Meanwhile,
you look at Troy's offense, they average only two point
eight yards per carry during the regular season, and they're
leading rusher. Andy, you talked about the transfer portal just
a moment ago. Well, Tay Meadows, he's their leading rusher.
He's in the portal, so he's not playing. In addition,
Troy's starting quarterback Goose Crowder he suffers an injury in
the Sun Belt Championship game, does seem like he will
play tonight? He said he was quote feeling good following
Saturday's practice. But another issue for Troy, regardless of who's
been at quarterback for them this season, is allowing sacks. Guys,
no team in the country allowed more sacks this year
than Troy did fifty seven sacks allowed, as eight more
than the second worst team in that department. So a
lot of problems protecting the passer. So I don't think
it's a surprise really that we've seen money come in
on Jacksonville State this morning. It's really come in on
the game Cox this morning. You mentioned where the line opened.
Now it looks like Jacksonville State is destined to close
as the favorite.
Speaker 3: Going back to those.
Speaker 5: Respective conference championship game losses, Guys, while Troy did cover
and Jacksonville State did not, let's note a couple things. One,
the final score could have been worse for Troy had
James Madison not elected to kneel inside the red zone
on the final possession. Also, Jacksonville State, even though they
didn't do much offensively for the balance of the game
against Kennesaw, they did have the lead going into the
final minute. They scored back to back touchdowns in the
fourth quarter to take the lead with a two point
conversion before giving up the game winning score. Jacksonville State's aside,
I prefer in this one. I'm gonna be on them
game Cocks were simply much better than anticipated this season.
Everyone expected them to take a step back after rich
Rod left for West Virginia, went back home to Morgantown.
That did not happen. Jacksonville State obviously did not regress. Meanwhile, Troy,
you just crack open the numbers, guys, terrible yards per play. Differentially,
that's a big time flag for me as far as
the total goes. All the early money was on the under,
but we're starting to see some over money because Jacksonville
State's aside I prefer in this one. I think they're
gonna have a lot of success running the ball. I
wouldn't disagree with betting their team total over as well.
That number, as of not so long ago, was still
sitting at twenty four and a half at a lot
of wildly available books. So I think Jacksonville State, led
by their rushing attack, gets it done. In the salute
to Veterans'.
Speaker 1: Bowl, I sat there with Jim and we stared at
that team total this morning, just twenty four and a half,
like just staring at it, staring at it, staring at
We didn't do anything with it. But sometimes the hook
like scares you off of a bet that you should
have just made anyways, And I wonder if this is
gonna be a situation where I mean, Bayou says in
the in the chat cam, Cook will have two hundred
yards rushing Like I don't I don't disagree with with
that tape at all. So all right, Brian, we're moving
to college basketball. We got Butler versus Yukon. Uh Butler, youkon, boy,
this has got it. This is like, this goes way back,
but does it look like it anymore that this is
a this will be a close game. Yukon minus fifteen
over under one forty seven and a half. What is
Butler up to these days with their college basketball program.
Speaker 5: Well, well we'll talk about that in a second. Let's
start with Yukon bell because this is the easy part
of the handicap. No denying the fact Andy, this is
one of the best teams in the country again, third
time in four years they've started ten and one. Are
better of course the previous two times they won to
win the national championship those years, so good start for
Dan Hurley's team. But I have been pretty consistent this
year in saying the Husky my power ratings that they
never show any value on the uskie. As a matter
of fact, more often than not, they've shown value on
the other side. And that's reflected in the fact that
this is a team, this is a betting show after all.
You kinda is just three and eight against the spread
this year, did not cover against Florida last week, did
not cover last Friday against Texas either. Meanwhile, speaking of
not covering the spread, let's get to Butler because they
come into tonight having failed to cover the number each
of the last three games. Now, unlike Yukon, Bulldogs have
already played a conference game, and what a wild one
that was.
Speaker 3: Saturday.
Speaker 5: They went into double overtime, needed to go double overtime
to outlast Providence one thirteen to one.
Speaker 3: Ten.
Speaker 5: Big difference in that game for Butler if you crack
open the box score and they were at home Butler
was They were plus twenty in free throw attempts. They
made thirteen more free throws than Providence attempted. So it
is not a great spot here at all for the underdog,
just two days of rest after a double overtime game
and having to play on the road. By the way,
this game is taking place in Hartford, not stores Butler
has lost eleven in a row to Yukon, regardless of
where the game has been. I know you kind of
struggled to cover the number this season. In addition to that,
I know the last four meetings between these teams have
all been decided by single digits. But all that being said, Andy, damn,
this feels like a double digit win for Yukon, and
I do like Dan Hurley's team to cover the number here.
Six of their first eleven games have come against Ken
Palm Top fifty teams. Butler's run on the precipice of
that currently number fifty one, I believe in the ken
Pom rankings, but bat spot for Butler off the double
overtime game. So I think Hurley as his boys ready
to roll.
Speaker 1: I just looked it up that National Championship game, the
final score of fifty three forty one between those two
teams cash the under.
Speaker 3: It was a different time, Yes, it was a different time, Brian.
Speaker 1: We got the Blitz coming up on Thursday. What do
I mean? It's still live and we got a lot
to go over with these Bowl games. So tell her
what about the Blitz and what people can expect them,
what they should bring to the table because we got
to get some questions for you guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good pile.
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I just talked about Jacksonville State versus Troy. I got
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
Speaker 5: Don't forget guys about the Blitz Live this Thursday, one
pm Eastern. Immediately following the show, Wager Talk Today myself,
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I'll wrap it up with this. It is five dollars Tuesday.
Of course at wagertalk dot com. I do have a
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So a lot of you have already gotten down. Let's
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in on this one though.
Speaker 1: This week Brian power great breakdowns. Even Justin says, great
breakdowns in the toil. Well done, very much, great.
Speaker 3: Try I try.
Speaker 5: It's nice to see Dan Alexander, by the way, on
the program tree this is.
Speaker 2: I don't do any of the scheduling, so no, no,
no implements will get you on this show anymore.
Speaker 3: I will tell you that, Brian. But we'll make sure
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shout out to our man, Joe. I mean, let's be
really you guys are are are always a little bit
off the rails. So there VP, So I'll definitely have
to check that one out, all right, BP, always a pleasure,
buddyill se you to man?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: You didn't think that you would be getting a gang reference?
Did I? Literally?
Speaker 1: I literally just remembered if muscle memory I could do
my gang sign, the only one that I know underneath that, I.
Speaker 3: Think we'll probably get in troubles.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. I was even as a kid
when I learned it, I was like, who came up
with this.
Speaker 3: Yeahs impressive.
Speaker 2: It takes a lot of Yeah I heard, I hear
surgeons train their dexterity by making that symbol.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Well, let's continue the streak
on WTF, l F G ye three in a row
here on this one. So where are we going tonight?
Speaker 2: Well so initially, and folks, if you're just joining us,
appreciate it. Make sure you hit that like button and subscribe.
But what we do every day here we do a
segment we call w T F or l F G.
It's what the F or let's F and Joe, let's
and go? And that is are we let's F and Joe? Yeah,
happy birthday Joe. But the the premise is simple, I
give a play and we let us know if we're
gonna be tailing it or if we're going to be
fading it. Now on Tuesdays, it's a little bit tough Randy,
because initially I was gonna come on here give Jacksonville State,
and then you know, the line move kind of got
me off of it. If I would play Jacksonville State,
I would play the money line, and I was gonna
come on here and give the Knicks and then I
started thinking about that game and thinking either the Knicks
are going to win this championship game or pull a
full on Nick and completely choke it away.
Speaker 3: So then that one got crossed off.
Speaker 2: But this morning I was producing the full court press
and there was no trig on it. It was just
Rob Veno and a guest here at Jim Root, and
Jim Root gave a really good breakdown on why he
is betting South Carolina plus twelve and a half against
Clemson in college basketball tonight, So that will be my
WTF or LFG is tailing another guy's play, So now
you're this is tail seption. Are you tailing me? And
or are you fading us? Both three straight times they've
covered against Clemson. Okay, does that really matter? Well, it's
a rivalry game with teams of familiarity, similar lineups, same coaches.
I think there is something a little bit prescriptive when
you talk about a team who constantly at least plays
good competition against a better program than them.
Speaker 3: This game should stay lower scoring.
Speaker 2: It doesn't really seem like South Carolina is going to
have the horses to runs. They're going to want to
try and slow this one down. And if we're trying
to keep this game lower scoring, having a team with
the double digit underdog, that gets a little incongruent. So
I think it's just too many points. Or Jim thinks
it's just too many points for teams with plenty of familiarity.
We're taking South Carolina, no money line sprinkle, not that
bold South Carolina plus twelve and a half WTF?
Speaker 3: Or lfg Andy be a my man, Jim.
Speaker 1: Root, WTF. Plagiarism is never rewarded on this show. Using
somebody else's play for this segment. Is you've just cursed it?
You do realize that, right.
Speaker 3: You're right?
Speaker 2: Can say yeah yeah. He's like, well, god, Dan, what
the hell? I fill in for Treg and now you
completely mush my play? I like it, Andy a man
of principle. So we have our first pain because I
stole someone else's play. At least I gave him full credit.
On damn.
Speaker 1: It's actually not plagiarism. It's not plagiarism In the slightest
plagiarism would be like, you know what I really like
is is this? Uh yeah, well let's listen. On Joe's birthday,
I bet he would love a good.
Speaker 2: F's F shoe show, all right, speaking of somebody else
who could use.
Speaker 1: A good F And Carmine Bianco is joining us.
Speaker 6: Carmine signs, gang signs.
Speaker 3: What's that one? What's that?
Speaker 1: Just?
Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, that's the Martin van Buren, the eighth President
of the United States.
Speaker 3: Come on, man, m v B Boys, the Van Buren Boys.
Speaker 6: I like, yes, come on man, sorry, And I'm Canadian.
Speaker 1: I'm not even you would know something like that about
mine Van Buren.
Speaker 2: The Van Buren Boys. I gotta watch out for dangerous,
dangerous And.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's talk to krmight about the Oilers
and the Penguins. A lot of games tonight. There's only
one NBA game. We got a ton of NHL games.
We picked this one. How do you break down the
Oilers and Penguins? What can we do with this game tonight?
Speaker 6: You know, Andy, this one, this one has a lot
of intrigue to it. Obviously, you normally wouldn't think that
with the team that went to the Stanley Cup the
last couple of years, playing a team like Pittsburgh who
are struggling immensely right now. But these teams traded Goaldies
last week and both are starting tonight. Tristan Jarry starts
for the Edmonton Oilers. He was in net against Torontowaite
Beliefs in Toronto and they got the six to three win.
This is going to be the first start for Stuart
Skinner for the Pittsburgh Penguins. He had some visa issues,
some were visa issues, but those got cleared up on Monday,
so he is announced as a starting goalie tonight. In
this one, you know, this is a Pittsburgh team that
is leaking a.
Speaker 1: Lot of goals.
Speaker 6: They've allowed four plus goals in each of the last
two games in the third period to go on and
lose in ot They're not playing well right now, but
this is more on a prop play, and right now,
the Edmonton team total sits at three and a half.
In this one, and you have the Edmonton Oilers coming
off a loss in Montreal in which they generated four
point one to seven of XG but lost that game
to Montreal Canaans. The goaltending was fantastic for Montreal, but
the Oilers their last six wins that followed a loss,
they are they have gone over their team total. They've
scored four more goals averaging five point three to three
in those six wins, so six to zero to the
team total after a loss their last six games, scoring
the of allowed twenty two goals their last five games,
all losses four point four. This is a team that
is not playing well right now. I get it. With
the goalies. Stuart Skinner wants to obviously show the Edmonton
Oiders that he can play, but I think the Orders
are coming with a chip on their shoulder off the
loss and they get to at least four tonight in
this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah that makes sense. I like where you're going with
that one. Penguin's team has been a sieve for more
than just like a regular small stretch. It feels like
long term, this team has been given up a lot.
So you get the honor of breaking down this huge game.
Rams in Seahawks guessing no DeVante Adams in this one,
so yeah, it's rough. So the Seahawks get to face
Philip Rivers and then Matthew Stafford. I believe Matthew Stafford
is eight years younger than Philip Rivers. That's the numbers
about how old Philip Rivers is it playing about how
it just are still amazing. But the books kind of struggling.
Don't know what to do with this one. We got
to pick them and over under forty four. Whenever I
see these vanilla numbers, I think you could have a
strong opinion one way or the other. What's your opinion
on this game?
Speaker 6: Yeah? And I do, And this is gonna eventually be
a play for me. I wager talk on Thursdays, and
normally I stay away from the Monday and Thursday games
because I've been doing so well on Sundays in the NFL.
But I do like Seattle in this one. Listen. As
bad as it may have seemed last week against the Colts,
Colts played a good one this past weekend and Mike
McDonald found a way to win. It was all field
goals to get them there. But you look at these
two teams, Andy, and this one could very well decide
the number one seed, not only in that division but overall.
Although the La Rams controlled their own fate win out,
they're the number one seed. Seattle cannot win out. Well,
they can win out, but if they win their next
couple of games, they and the forty nine ers win
their last couple of games. It comes down to the Niners.
The San Fran Seattle game in San Fran for the
number one seed. Believe it or not, so Niner fans
will be cheering for a Seahawks victory on a Thursday night.
But look at the earlier game between these two twenty
one nineteen San Donoald throws four picks in that one.
You have to go back sixteen games to find a
game in which and this was playing for Minnesota where
where he tossed two or more interceptions five tds, one
I and T Since that since that loss, they dominated
pretty much every single analytic in that game. Seattle did
four hundred and fourteen to two hundred and forty nine
total offensive yards. Obviously, the turnovers four to one, with
those four interceptions, time of possession thirty eight to twenty
two for Sea. They controlled everything. And if Jason Myers
makes that long sixty one yard field goal at the
end of the game, it is a completely different narrative
on the season and on this division as far as
Seattle goes. It's the venue s which you know Lumanfield
is going to be loud, It's going to make it
tougher for that offense of the La Rams. And these
are two very good defenses, which is why we're seeing
the total where it is right now, in sort of
the mid forties. You look at Seattle, they nine points,
I believe is their three losses are by combined nine points,
and the Rams are right there at eleven or twelve points.
They're combined three losses. These are two teams that have
played exceptional all season long, and the Rams differential would
be much lower if not for and Dan Alexander will
remember this one, the blocked punt at the end of
the game in Philadelphia that our block fieldal attempt that
turned into a touchdown and cover for the Eagles. With
that said, the only thing I'm worried about, and you
mentioned DeVante DeVante Adams is Charles Cross obviously offensive line
the left tackle uh for Sam Donald and for for
Seattle hamstring injury for him as well too. You might
want to look at the injury reports. They need a
they need a good offensive line to protect Darnold, get
give him some time to throw. And I think at
this price right now, at a pick him, I would
definitely be on Seattle.
Speaker 1: Are you at all worried? That's Sam Darnald tends to
have his worst games at the worst possible time in
the spotlight.
Speaker 6: Yes, I absolutely do you know. Sometimes the New York
Jets version of Sam Darnald comes out, which seems fitting
because it's Joe ran Airey's birthday today and being a
Jets fan, his birthday is the one time of year
where he can celebrate something that's shots finn An Tomy Plaza.
Speaker 2: I mean, to be fair, he also is a Florida
Panthers fan, So it's not all bad.
Speaker 6: Yes day, boys, let's be well, you have to move
down to Florida to jump on that boat, on that wagon.
But I'm in it with the heat man this morning.
Speaker 3: You always choose violence.
Speaker 2: Let's be real, car and but I'm hoping folks are
watching the show are gonna choose to ride with you
here on five dollars Tuesday, What do you got Locked
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Speaker 1: Awesome stuff, karm good luck on the five dollars play.
Thank you very much for stepping in. We always gotta
have somebody on deck when Prez is scheduled no.
Speaker 3: And you have to go to the resident resident Canadians.
Speaker 2: It was right away I was like, thank god Prez
broke his equipment because it means we get the chat
with Carmine, who was one of our favorite guys here
genuinely as you well know, Andy, and the chat clearly
sees it one of the nicest guys around and in
a hell of a handicap or two.
Speaker 3: So it's always fun when we get to sub someone in.
Never gonna cry.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, do we miss pres sure but
Carmine's a close second.
Speaker 1: Is it possible this Seattle team is one of these
teams that could get figured out like this offense, Like
like now that we have a huge sample size with
what Arnold looks like, like teams are going you know,
Kenneth Walker and it's not that great. Yeah, it's not
that great and himself, how hard is it's?
Speaker 2: It's hey, let's limit what we can do as far
as a possession and not getting beat over the top
by Jackson Smith and Jig But and then it's figure
out the rest.
Speaker 3: Becuse Kenneth Walker.
Speaker 2: He's one of those if you're a fantasy player, a
daily fantasy player, he's one of those guys who make
you bang your head up against the wall because when
the matchup screams, oh, this is a Kenneth Walker game,
he just disappears. And it's not like Zach Sharbonay, who
was the guy who would steal a lot of touchdowns
from So the offense feels really.
Speaker 3: Easy to figure out. Now.
Speaker 2: The thing that helps them, Andy is that defense is
pretty stout as well as far as this game is concerned.
Speaker 3: Though, I think the Seahawks could be in trouble. I
really do it's it's a it's.
Speaker 2: Things have really come down to earth from Seattle since
that primetime game when everyone was talking about this could
be a legit Super Bowl contender.
Speaker 3: Are they a tough team to match up against?
Speaker 2: Sure, you know, but it doesn't seem like they're the
juggernaut that they maybe seem like they once were.
Speaker 1: You know. I root for Sam Darnold because I think
he got a broad deal and I'm glad to see
his career resurrected. But it's just so tough until he
shows he didn't play good in a big game, and
I don't know. We'll see. All Right, Well, let's do
all around the world. We're going to We're going a
little obscure today here, guys. Please, Yeah, we have won
in the in the NBA Cup. Then we're gonna talk
a little cricket. Then we're gonna talk a little darts.
And they see people have asked a couple questions about lacrosse.
So let's go to the Yeah, let's go to the
NBA Cup game. Luke Cornette over five and a half rebounds.
Even with Wemby back he started last game. He played
twenty four minutes and he had eight rebounds and his
role is knocked a score. We know that because he
barely shoots the ball. It's to rebound, it's to bang
around inside, is to clear out space for those guards
and those forwards. I think Fournette actually plays a surprising
amount of minutes. I don't think that Wemby is ready
to play a full thirty five to forty minute workload
coming back from injury, and I think the Spurs would
be foolish to do that. So they'll be surprised if
Fluke Cornett is out there and kind of squeaks over
this total of five and a half. We're going cricket.
This one's juicy, so if you don't like juicy plays,
pass on it. We're gonna take the Emirates over the
Dubai Capitols. The Capitals are two and three this tournament.
The only wins were against the worst team in the tournament,
so really they're own to three. This is a bowling,
it's a depth, it's a batting advantage for Emirates. They're
a big favorite for a reason. And then darts these
plays go this afternoon. We're gonna take Girwin Price minus
two and a half sets. He's playing a guy that
probably shouldn't be playing in the World Championship with darts.
Then we're gonna take Nico Springer go to the alt
spread up minus one and a half sets. He's a
top sixty ranked player playing in unranked player. These are
the first couple rounds where you just see these these
guys that really don't belong on the same stage with
some of these guys. So we'll parlay those. It's minus
one fifty four. Again, it's a little bit juicy, but
I was looking for some plays to figure out for
you guys this afternoon. Yeah, Leeah, like we said before,
as hell of choky, you don't like playing chalking plays,
didn't forget about it, don't worry about it. Move certainly
not for everybody, all right, lacrosse plays, Dan, We had
a question about.
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, Which is what I love, Andy.
Speaker 2: Of what we have curated on wager Talk today is
that we have the chat saying Andy, where is my
dart plays? And we have AWB four asking me about
teams to fade in the National Lacrosse League.
Speaker 3: So I know it towards the That's why we save
it towards the back end, folks.
Speaker 2: We know not everyone's interested in it, but a lot
of folks who watch this show are just interested in
catching tickets. He's asking, is there a better team to
fade than the Las Vegas Desert Dogs. Goaltending is terrible,
and now Jeff Tat one of the best lacrosse players,
whether it's indoor, whether it's outdoor, one of the best,
if not the best, in the world. Now I'm guessing
he's asking, hey, do you just bet against them on
the money line? It's basically a pickham price because you know,
Ottawa Black Bears are kind of one of these new
new teams. But for me, Las Vegas only has one
game under their belt, so historically they have been really bad. Yes,
their goaltending is really bad, but we don't really know
what the twenty twenty five to twenty six version of
the Desert Dogs looks like. The one game that we
did see, they put up nine goals against Vancouver. Sure,
they allowed fifteen, but that's why the only thing that
I would actually bet in this game, Andy, is the over,
and the over between Ottawa and Las Vegas this Saturday
is sitting.
Speaker 3: At twenty two and a half.
Speaker 2: I would play over simply because this Las Vegas team
has shown they actually can maybe score this year. Vancouver
actually has some good goaltending and they put up nine
against them.
Speaker 3: Ottawa does not. Ottawa is one and one on.
Speaker 2: The season, Andy, but in their games there have been
forty eight total goals scored in just two games, They've
allowed twenty four and they put up twenty four. Yes,
they will score with regularity, but I think they'll also
give it up to an offense that is a bit
better than maybe history has said. So maybe later in
the week we're gonna be talking WTF or LFG, but
I'm locking in the over twenty two and a half.
Great question there by AWB four little NLLL talk.
Speaker 3: Baby, love it, love it.
Speaker 2: Also keep the streak going, baby, drop a free play below.
What are you betting that, AWB? Come on, I'll kail,
let's ride, let's go three and oh baby.
Speaker 1: There's not too many shows out there that will break
down the NBA Cup, the NHL cricket, darts and lacrosse.
But we got you.
Speaker 2: And do you say not too many shows, I'm gonna
set the over under it a half. I don't know
if if there's any other show that just hit the
topics that we took and just so you know, awb,
they weren't up this morning. Those lines were just posted
on the Green book and the Blue book.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 1: What so Bill says this Steve Siffler is one of
the greatest lacrosse players of all time. This is one
of the most unrealistic sports scene in any movie I
have ever seen. In Like, if you've never seen or
played in a men's lacrosse game and you watch American Pie,
it could not be further from.
Speaker 3: What actually happens.
Speaker 1: First Off, the guy leaving in the middle of the
game is truly ridiculous. The celebration, the celebrationuld not getting penalized,
it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: The speed the stick like.
Speaker 1: Like it's truly lappable. How unrealistic that scene truly is,
Like even in the moment, it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no it It certainly does not encapsulate the excitement
and an actual flow and beauty of the game that
I love. Andy, And also just to let these folks
know they were asking about the Steam report when Gehanny
isn't on here. On Tuesday, Andy and I take a
look some accounts, We look at some line moves and
we dropped it. So the Steam report took place at
sixteen minutes into the show where Andy and I ran
it down.
Speaker 3: But no Gianni on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Even the Greek
deserves a day off or too. Let's be fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a ton today with limited NBA and limited things.
Speaker 3: And the line move already happened.
Speaker 2: The big one was Troy starting as a favorite flipping
because the quarterback has banged up, running back is it play?
And there was a bunch of opt outs, so the
line move already happened.
Speaker 3: In the ones that would be the big Steam plays
for sure.
Speaker 1: Andy absolutely absolutely, all right, let's gonna do it for
us five dollars. Cricket best bet is up. It's a
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Everything you need, we got you covered on this Tuesday. Dan,
thank you so much. We're gonna do it again. Tomorrow's
same time, same place. Good luck on your place tonight.
We'll see I'm going tomorrow. Take care