Speaker 1: Callaroga Shark Media. Hey there, I'm Johnny Mack with your
Speaker 1: daily comedy news. June Gaffigan caught up with Las Vegas Weekly,
Speaker 1: and although it seems like Jim has accomplished everything in
Speaker 1: the comedy world, he says, there's stuff I want to do,
Speaker 1: but I guess I learned a long time ago that
Speaker 1: it's the creed of fulfillment I should focus on. It
Speaker 1: sounds corny, there's nothing better than coming up with a
Speaker 1: new joke. I realized this when I finally appeared on Letterman,
Speaker 1: which was such a huge goal of mine, and after
Speaker 1: that I was kind of confused. What do I do
Speaker 1: now that I achieved this goal? Made me reevaluate what
Speaker 1: I really love about it. Jim spoke about his kids.
Speaker 1: They're ages twelve to twenty one, so when we're all
Speaker 1: together it's usually around the holidays. They consistently have no
Speaker 1: interest in attending my shows, but when they were little,
Speaker 1: we threw them on the bus for a month. They've
Speaker 1: explored the world a little bit. Jim spoke about doing
Speaker 1: S and L during the election cycle. It was bizarre,
Speaker 1: is what you would think. But also I was usually
Speaker 1: done after the cold Open, so it was gearing up
Speaker 1: for two minutes of work as somebody who does stand
Speaker 1: up for like an hour. I kind of missed some
Speaker 1: of that longer process, but it was an opportunity I
Speaker 1: could never imagine just so amazing, and doing the fiftieth
Speaker 1: season was so incredible. If anything, it really surprised me
Speaker 1: because it was the first time I've done something where
Speaker 1: I felt like most people saw it. Maybe they didn't
Speaker 1: see the show, but they saw a clip of it.
Speaker 1: So it was the first time I was involved in
Speaker 1: something like that. There are very few people who were like,
Speaker 1: what's snl. I laughed at the New York Post. They said,
Speaker 1: exclusive interview with Joe List, and I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: but it's not like you got I don't know Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: It's Joe List, no offense, work with Joe, good guy.
Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, well from the exclusive interview with
Speaker 1: Joe List, Joe exclusively, he tells The New York Post.
Speaker 1: Every time I finish a special, I can't believe I
Speaker 1: did it again. You know, you're doing an hour on
Speaker 1: stage and you're like, how am I gonna write material again?
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have this much stuff? And then you
Speaker 1: do it. Feels like a miracle every time. I feel
Speaker 1: like this special is better than the last one based
Speaker 1: on audience reactions. Plus, it's the first one I've done
Speaker 1: that wasn't filmed in New York at the Village Underground.
Speaker 1: It's the first time I've cut together two different nights
Speaker 1: in two different venues, so it's a lot of first
Speaker 1: for me. I think it's very good. I could be wrong.
Speaker 1: As for the time, Well, small Ball Joe List exclusively
Speaker 1: tells the New York Post I was opening for Louis
Speaker 1: c K nine years ago and we did the LA fourm,
Speaker 1: which is a huge, sixteen thousand seed venue. I didn't
Speaker 1: really know him at the time. Then we all got
Speaker 1: on a private jet and he was like, what a night.
Speaker 1: That was the best show. Joe List playing small Ball
Speaker 1: at the LA Forum. I'm a big baseball guy, and
Speaker 1: I just like the metaphor of drawing a walk and
Speaker 1: bunding a guy over because he sees so many specials
Speaker 1: out of a crane shot and it's at a stadium
Speaker 1: or an arena. The guy comes at the stage and
Speaker 1: it's some sort of big act out, which is fine
Speaker 1: forever's doing it, but for me, it's just like I'm
Speaker 1: standing here. I'm not going to move around a lot,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna get the job done. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: be too flashy. I like this part too. Joe List
Speaker 1: exclusively tells The New York Post the number one comment
Speaker 1: I get after shows is that audience members didn't think
Speaker 1: I was tall. I'm very tall, six like an athlete.
Speaker 1: But I've had crooked teeth and glasses of most of
Speaker 1: my life and a bad jaw on I've been around
Speaker 1: Joe List, especially when a podcast company I worked at
Speaker 1: shared the studio with where they would tape Tuesdays with
Speaker 1: stories Joe and Mark Norman. I don't remember thinking that
Speaker 1: Joe List was tall. I don't remember thinking anything Joe said.
Speaker 1: People think that I'm gonna sci fi. I've never read
Speaker 1: a Harry Potter. I'm horrible at math. I've never seen
Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings. I don't play chess, and I
Speaker 1: get laid a good amount. I've had no formal education whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I went to zero college. The other thing is I
Speaker 1: like foreign films, but I'm also obsessed with hockey, so
Speaker 1: you know I'm a complex guy. Brad Williams spoke to
Speaker 1: the Independent about playing larger venues. Does he changed his
Speaker 1: style at all? Brad said, the show has always been
Speaker 1: sort of high energy. I've un told many times that
Speaker 1: the show was meant for theater, and maybe that's just
Speaker 1: an over compensation for my size where I'm trying to
Speaker 1: make it as big as possible. So this show, other
Speaker 1: than the material, in terms of the energy in the scale,
Speaker 1: doesn't changed much. It's not like a Garth Brooks Chris
Speaker 1: Gaines situation where I'm a completely a different person. If
Speaker 1: you like my show, you'll like this show. No politics.
Speaker 1: I don't fancy myself a political comedian. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be a political comedian. I don't think I'm smart
Speaker 1: enough to be a political comedian. So no matter who
Speaker 1: you voted for, you can have a good time at
Speaker 1: my show. I want everyone just to have a good
Speaker 1: night out and no matter who you voted for. So
Speaker 1: I wanted to forget about the things that are going
Speaker 1: on in the world. I want you to put down
Speaker 1: your phones and not doomscroll for two hours about headlines.
Speaker 1: I have very strong opinions about certain topics, but even
Speaker 1: when I bring them up with my show, the last
Speaker 1: thing I want you to do say hey, you think
Speaker 1: this way, you're stupid, or you voted for this guy,
Speaker 1: you're dumb. I think it's really dismissive. We all want
Speaker 1: the same thing. We all want success. We want safety,
Speaker 1: security for our friends, for our neighbors, for our family.
Speaker 1: Then to be able to advance in our careers and
Speaker 1: be able to do that. It's what literally everyone wants.
Speaker 1: We have different thoughts on how to achieve the goals,
Speaker 1: but my job is to entertain anyone who buys a ticket.
Speaker 1: That's my job. Well, said Brad Williams. Cameil Non Gianni.
Speaker 1: He said, when I started doing comedy, the whole thing
Speaker 1: was in Chicago doing open mics. Was like, I have
Speaker 1: to talk about stuff no one else is talking about.
Speaker 1: But now how many guys are talking about the exact
Speaker 1: same thing. Cancel culture, anti trans stuff, whatever the f
Speaker 1: it is, it's exactly the same. Gianni said. It's really
Speaker 1: weird to go up after someone who did a bit
Speaker 1: about how interracial dating is wrong and did pretty well
Speaker 1: with the crowd. Is that a thing? Is someone actually
Speaker 1: doing that as material in twenty twenty five? If I'm
Speaker 1: not familiar with such a set, but I will listen
Speaker 1: to Camille Camille said such comedians aren't even committed to
Speaker 1: their own philosoph They say two things simultaneously. We're like
Speaker 1: street level philosophers, and it's just a joke, and depending
Speaker 1: on what the attack is, that's a defense. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: just joking. But also what we do is important. We're
Speaker 1: speaking truth to power. Both those things can't exist at
Speaker 1: the same time. Verbiglia, on a similar note, said the
Speaker 1: decontextualization of sound and video in the last decade has
Speaker 1: given anyone who speaks in a microphone a certain new
Speaker 1: level of self consciousness. It's like, what does this paragraph
Speaker 1: sound like? What does this sentence sound like? What does
Speaker 1: this word sound like? You start to isolate everything, and
Speaker 1: I'm not free of that. I do think, Oh, could
Speaker 1: this be cut out of context? Forbigs defends Tony Hinchcliff
Speaker 1: the infamous joke there, Burbig said, you can like the
Speaker 1: joke or not, but it was a joke. The ever
Speaker 1: so serious Harry Connoboluh said, my stuff has always been heavy.
Speaker 1: That's always what I found most interesting. Racism and sexism,
Speaker 1: or wealth and disparity. And none of this stuff is new.
Speaker 1: They've been around since the founding of this country. So
Speaker 1: to me, I've always wrestled with the dark stuff. I've
Speaker 1: always found that the most absurd. That's the kind of
Speaker 1: stuff my hero has talked about. If anything, I've been
Speaker 1: trying to get lighter. The stuff that's heavier has more
Speaker 1: impact when it's surrounded by things that are lighter, and
Speaker 1: also allows the audience they get to know me outside
Speaker 1: of just somebody who has beliefs. When the audience feels
Speaker 1: like they like you, like they know you, when you
Speaker 1: give them the stuff with the weight, it digests better.
Speaker 1: It's like the difference between a random person sharing their
Speaker 1: personal beliefs versus a friend. When it's a friend, I
Speaker 1: like this person. Now he's telling me this thing, it
Speaker 1: makes me more likely to listen. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: how I've been approaching it, having these conversations. It definitely
Speaker 1: opens you up. Bill Burr spoke to The New Yorker
Speaker 1: about the cable news networks and said they're trying to
Speaker 1: turn my brain a mush and I'm helping them. Every night,
Speaker 1: Debt's scrolling on Instagram and need start reading again. Then
Speaker 1: every election it just comes down immigration and the other
Speaker 1: usual five or six talking points. It's like how we
Speaker 1: go through another election. No one's talking about the complete
Speaker 1: out of control greed. Most amazing thing for me during
Speaker 1: the pandemic, other than the fact that a virus got politicized,
Speaker 1: was the fact that if you had a three hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars house and you were trying to sell it, it
Speaker 1: was difficult. If you had a forty million dollar house,
Speaker 1: they couldn't keep them on the market. I was thinking,
Speaker 1: where are they getting this money? How about this? How
Speaker 1: about Democrats haven't been able to decide who they wanted
Speaker 1: for their Democratic nomination for three elections. Sanders wanted both times,
Speaker 1: and they said, nah, so why I have the primary?
Speaker 1: They didn't want them because he was gonna go after
Speaker 1: the stuff that's paying all the corrupt people. These are liberals.
Speaker 1: And then you see all the stuff that the right
Speaker 1: wing people doing right now, panic books, stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and liberals freaking out about that. It's like you guys
Speaker 1: are doing that four or five years ago. If you
Speaker 1: look at the news, well they show when they show
Speaker 1: a Trump are they just show the dumbest person they
Speaker 1: could find, going Donald Trump's a genius. That's what the
Speaker 1: jay stands for right now. To show a liberal. They
Speaker 1: show that woman crying when Trump first got elected. That's
Speaker 1: not an accurate patorial of either side. These are crazy people.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile Democrats Republicans all got on the same page
Speaker 1: as greedy. They can't be tried for inside of tradings
Speaker 1: like what that are we doing here? One of the
Speaker 1: most divisive things in this country has been Hollywood Awards
Speaker 1: shows these idiot actors. They tuck down a red states
Speaker 1: that never been to the exact same way idiot rednecks
Speaker 1: talks about California. I ain't to get the other side
Speaker 1: of here your opinion. We just insult them and don't
Speaker 1: listen to them. It's like people on the right, what
Speaker 1: are you a liptart? That's the Internet? The Internet? As
Speaker 1: you start your polling off with a f ed? Who's
Speaker 1: listening after f ed? Send your letters to Bill Burr.
Speaker 1: Happy Father's Day. Roy Wood will release his first book,
Speaker 1: The Man of Many Fathers Life Lessons disguised as a memoir.
Speaker 1: It'll be out this fall. Crown Publishing says the book
Speaker 1: will delve into the lessons and values a Roywood junior
Speaker 1: is distilled from the unexpected figures who shaped his life
Speaker 1: after his father's passing. Roy lost his father at the
Speaker 1: age of sixteen. Those father figures have included a variety
Speaker 1: of people's encountered, from teenage friends to Trevor Noah, which
Speaker 1: is interesting. Trevor no was forty one. Roywood Junior is
Speaker 1: forty six. The Man of Many Fathers due out October
Speaker 1: twenty eighth. It's Fringe season, so we're going to get
Speaker 1: another run of articles about the Fringe is too expensive?
Speaker 1: Get this every single year. I'm sure it is expensive,
Speaker 1: but this is not a new thing. The Guardian got
Speaker 1: into it. Nish Kumar told The Guardian. I don't have
Speaker 1: any family connections in common or television. My like up
Speaker 1: was that I went to a post university that had
Speaker 1: this relationship with Edinburgh. The review go into the Fringe
Speaker 1: created so many opportunities for me. There's nothing anywhere in
Speaker 1: the world like it. For all it's problems, I still
Speaker 1: see that it has this ability to change people's lives
Speaker 1: and teach people the job of being a comedian. Kumar
Speaker 1: says performing every day for a month improved his writing. Plus,
Speaker 1: you get a certain comfort that means you're not having
Speaker 1: a full blown physiological panic attack every time you stand
Speaker 1: one that confidence never leaves you. Comedian Annie McGrath says
Speaker 1: Edinburgh has already become widely unaffordable for so many acts
Speaker 1: and punters and landlords have a lot to answer for.
Speaker 1: It's really sad as it could wipe out a generation
Speaker 1: of new talent. It also means there's a lack of
Speaker 1: diversity in what's being created if only the wealthiest acts
Speaker 1: and the bigs names are able to go. Kumar says
Speaker 1: comedy is one of the things we still do well
Speaker 1: in this country. Not providing funding for it is insane.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll hear a lot more about the expenses.
Speaker 1: Reese Darby spoke to The Guardian and they were curious,
Speaker 1: what is one of the strangest encounters with a fan
Speaker 1: you've had? Luckily, Rees Dartby at a story ready and
Speaker 1: it goes back in the day. I said, I was
Speaker 1: the freestyle dance champion of a small town called Hokun
Speaker 1: in New Zealand. So someone needed me a woolen jacket
Speaker 1: that had dance champion on the back. Also, someone made
Speaker 1: a small bust of me once. I remember with the
Speaker 1: flight of the Concorde. Jamaine Clement once received a plaster
Speaker 1: impression of his lips. I don't know how they did it,
Speaker 1: but to present something to you that he's of you
Speaker 1: is insane. Luckily, no one's given me a Folclay model
Speaker 1: of my nose or anything like that. He looked back
Speaker 1: fondly on the Flight of the Concords days and said,
Speaker 1: we were young, and it was our first time in
Speaker 1: the States making something with their money and their brilliance.
Speaker 1: We got caught up in it. We just concentrated on
Speaker 1: how we could be so funny that we're cracking each
Speaker 1: other up. And when after redo the scene we had
Speaker 1: some control of the show, we could improvise and do
Speaker 1: seven or eight takes, and that was really the key,
Speaker 1: because I got funnier every take. I know that for
Speaker 1: a fact. I still say that to people when I
Speaker 1: do shows. I say, give me a couple more because
Speaker 1: I'll peek on the sixth take. Some people say, you
Speaker 1: went from being that guy in the Flight of the
Speaker 1: Concords to a sex symbol with our flag means death.
Speaker 1: What was that like? Rees says, I'm a comedy guy,
Speaker 1: not a sex symbol. My character wore some very attractive attire,
Speaker 1: but it's still a very insecure, bizarre weird little Man
Speaker 1: was to try to find himself. The character was perfect
Speaker 1: for me because I liked dressing up being the captain,
Speaker 1: and I do overcompensate with authority because I really have
Speaker 1: no idea what I'm doing. There were definitely some similatteries there,
Speaker 1: but I was not expecting anything. On a sexual note
Speaker 1: from fans, the audiences are amazing. That's your comedy news
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