Speaker 1: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from
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Speaker 2: Been joining me in the studio is Jackie Ray. Jackie
Speaker 2: is great to see you. We missed you last week. Yes,
Speaker 2: Now we have to talk about some athletes, and you
Speaker 2: and I are usually in agreement. Athletes should have a
Speaker 2: space to be able to talk about things other than
Speaker 2: sports or their sport. Absolutely, you know, professional athletes are people,
Speaker 2: and people have politics and beliefs.
Speaker 3: But but here's the caveat some.
Speaker 4: Of these guys, it's just idiots, just straight up idiots.
Speaker 2: I got two idiots for you, Jackie Ray, and I
Speaker 2: want to see what you could gather from their idiocy. First,
Speaker 2: is Miami heat guard Tyler Hero. Okay, and he can ball, yeah,
Speaker 2: get me wrong, but he doesn't believe any history before
Speaker 2: the year nineteen fifty.
Speaker 4: Listen to this real thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah I think so, yeah, I don't think he's I
Speaker 3: don't think he's behind history.
Speaker 2: Well, you said you don't believe he hap like Twitterland, No,
Speaker 2: I don't believe that.
Speaker 3: I don't believe anything that happened before nineteen fifty. Wait wait, no,
Speaker 3: thank you?
Speaker 2: Okay, So wait, you don't believe something that happened, like like,
Speaker 2: how do we know when did he when did he
Speaker 2: come to the land or whatever?
Speaker 4: Churchill, they said.
Speaker 3: There's no way really knowing if it was him could be.
Speaker 2: Involved, right, okay, the forest Columbus as if history did
Speaker 2: not exist in any form before YouTube or YEV or videotape.
Speaker 4: I mean like World War II happened before nineteen fifty?
Speaker 5: How did Okay, here's that was a lot like I'm stuttering,
Speaker 5: just just trying to regurgitate. So when you look at
Speaker 5: this political landscape, if you don't know how we got here,
Speaker 5: what do.
Speaker 6: You think happening right now? This is a lung. Let's
Speaker 6: say he's a voter, a voter he votes for. But
Speaker 6: let's say he is a voter, his vote means as
Speaker 6: much as mine in theory.
Speaker 5: Right, But this is the problem then, because what is
Speaker 5: he voting based upon?
Speaker 3: He has no framework, his dumbosity. How did you?
Speaker 5: Let's unpack this because if you don't believe in history,
Speaker 5: when was the.
Speaker 3: NBA created pre nineteen fifty? So you playing point? You
Speaker 3: playing in a game you don't believe in.
Speaker 2: Stop trying to make sense. Let's get to the other idiot,
Speaker 2: because we'll be here all night. Amon Shumpert. He is
Speaker 2: a retired NBA player. He played with Cleveland. I don't
Speaker 2: know where else he played. He played with Lakers for
Speaker 2: a hot second. Those who may be in just popular culture.
Speaker 2: He was married to rapper and actress Tianna Taylor for
Speaker 2: some time. Fumbled it fumbled that bag, as they say,
Speaker 2: he is of the opinion, like an increasing number of
Speaker 2: NBA players, is of the opinion that the Earth is
Speaker 2: not spherical, or in his terminology, it's not round, And
Speaker 2: there's nothing you can do to convince him, prove to
Speaker 2: him otherwise.
Speaker 4: This is a mon shumper in all of his ignorants.
Speaker 7: World being flat.
Speaker 8: Bro, you have no proof that it's okay, that's.
Speaker 4: What be crazy. How you're gonna prove to me is round?
Speaker 7: And how have you ever like flown? Yeah, the whole time,
Speaker 7: really never ever ever, you know it, don't look.
Speaker 8: I never saw one of them little windows and saw
Speaker 8: enough earth to see a curve.
Speaker 7: You didn't do that. Look, but you can't see the
Speaker 7: end of it, like I'm saying, if you like, go
Speaker 7: to the go to the beach and look at the ocean.
Speaker 7: It stops at one point because the curve you can't
Speaker 7: keep going.
Speaker 4: Like if it was flat, you could keep seeing.
Speaker 7: You could pull out a telescope and see farther and farther.
Speaker 4: You want to know, it's crazy.
Speaker 8: I could paint you a picture right now and draw
Speaker 8: a straight line and you could say it looked like
Speaker 8: a curve picture exactly look like from where?
Speaker 5: Why Tiana Taylor somewhere going? Thank you Jesus.
Speaker 4: How did that guy impress her?
Speaker 5: I don't know, because I would have been done as
Speaker 5: soon as he put an F on the end of Earth.
Speaker 3: We are done.
Speaker 2: For the science people out there, the curvature of the
Speaker 2: Earth is about eight inches per mile. Okay, if you
Speaker 2: can get up high enough or have enough distance and
Speaker 2: get perspective, you'll see the curvature of the earth. Why
Speaker 2: Imon Schumper thinks he's smarter than everyone else in the world,
Speaker 2: even though he.
Speaker 4: Doesn't believe figured this out hundreds of years ago? Okay?
Speaker 5: I feel like most of us when we were kids
Speaker 5: in school, we made these sun dials and we could
Speaker 5: see you know how so so did he fail that
Speaker 5: or did he what happened? I need a history lesson
Speaker 5: that Tyler hero doesn't believe exists.
Speaker 2: I short of just putting all these dumb the fathers
Speaker 2: on a rocket and take and shooting them off towards
Speaker 2: the moon so they can Jeff Bezos Elon Musk helped
Speaker 2: me out here where they can actually see it for themselves.
Speaker 5: They will wallow, okay, But the thing is, though you
Speaker 5: don't have to see it for yourself. Then NASA literally
Speaker 5: has a camera that's in space.
Speaker 4: They don't believe.
Speaker 2: They don't believe anything that that's happening on the International
Speaker 2: Space Station, the pictures which are being back to us.
Speaker 4: They don't believe any of that.
Speaker 2: So short of them actually being in a rocket and
Speaker 2: then they dip their head out the window and decompress
Speaker 2: and explode because they think this probably just images being
Speaker 2: pasted on the side of.
Speaker 4: The right of the capsule. They're not going to believe.
Speaker 5: That's insane. So what's that movie with Jim Carrey? Is
Speaker 5: that what that they believe in the Truman Show.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe all of this is just a big lie,
Speaker 2: But but that is.
Speaker 4: Part and parcel.
Speaker 2: Here's the serious point of our nation today, because we
Speaker 2: believe that everything is some sort of plot to deceive
Speaker 2: us and control us, and everything which is told to
Speaker 2: us is actually a lie, and we can't believe reality.
Speaker 2: We can't believe history, we can't believe whatever we see
Speaker 2: in the news today because fake news, fake news.
Speaker 5: Listen, I write, it's not real. What you're seeing is
Speaker 5: not real. Okay, I invented that. But I know where
Speaker 5: we are and it's and it's interesting though. It is
Speaker 5: because I have I have people that you know, not
Speaker 5: that I'm related to or I know personally, but that
Speaker 5: I've been in acquaintance with, who i would consider really
Speaker 5: intelligent and insightful but very religious at the same time.
Speaker 5: And I've sat down with them and I've had conversation
Speaker 5: and randomly I like museums, and so anytime there's a
Speaker 5: new dinosaur thing.
Speaker 3: I love dinosaurs. Where this is going, yeah, you know
Speaker 3: where this is going.
Speaker 5: They don't believe that dinosaurs existed because dinosaurs are not
Speaker 5: in the.
Speaker 2: Bible, right, And according to the Bible, the Earth is
Speaker 2: only so many thousands of.
Speaker 5: Years ago, right, and so that way when people are saying,
Speaker 5: you know, millions, so for them, nothing predates the Bible,
Speaker 5: and so therefore dinosaurs don't exist. And then the bones
Speaker 5: that are in the museum are absolutely fake and fabricated
Speaker 5: to what end though, and that's always my question, what
Speaker 5: how are you deceiving the people except for to say,
Speaker 5: at some point we want somebody to make too many
Speaker 5: series of Jurassic Park. Aside from that, what would be
Speaker 5: the purpose of the lie?
Speaker 2: The same with what would be the purpose of deceiving
Speaker 2: all civilizations, not just in the United States, but all
Speaker 2: civilization to convince them that the world is flat even
Speaker 2: though scientifically.
Speaker 5: There's so many holes in that, so many, so many,
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, and what's the upside of it?
Speaker 4: And when is someone going to find the edge of the.
Speaker 5: Disc because listen, I used to tell now this person
Speaker 5: was a friend, but no longer, not now, But I
Speaker 5: used to tell him. I was like, listen, I know
Speaker 5: for a fact the Earth is not flat, because if
Speaker 5: it was, do you know how many people I were
Speaker 5: to kick off the side of it?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: No, I could make a really joke about certain news
Speaker 2: going on today. Listen, there'll be a way in which
Speaker 2: people would be removed from this country.
Speaker 4: There was an edge. Not going to call it the earth.
Speaker 3: Okay, Earth might be flat, but Earth is not.
Speaker 4: Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Vague news. Jamie Fox,
Speaker 4: That was.
Speaker 2: Jammy Fox Fox when we come back, we got some
Speaker 2: more athletes to talk about and what they've done, what
Speaker 2: they said. Antonio Brown, he's in the news for two things.
Speaker 2: One he's in the news for attempted.
Speaker 4: Murder charges again.
Speaker 2: And he said that he slept with Governor Newsom's wife.
Speaker 4: Same story.
Speaker 2: And also Clayton Kershaw what he had on his hat
Speaker 2: on Pride Night. He had a Bible verse on Pride Night.
Speaker 2: And people are trying to talk about the Bible and
Speaker 2: Christian beliefs. People are trying to read into the message
Speaker 2: he was trying to share. We're gonna talk about that
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Speaker 2: we talked about the dumbness Tyler Herro, the dumbness of
Speaker 2: the Mond shemperd NBA. Now this we need to talk about.
Speaker 2: I will say the views in Major League Baseball and football,
Speaker 2: if you will, this is kind of politics for both
Speaker 2: of them. Let's start with Clinton Kershaw, Dodger's great first
Speaker 2: ballot Hall of Famer. He's an outspoke When I say
Speaker 2: outspoken Christian, he's not in a political sense. He you
Speaker 2: just know that's a part of his life and he
Speaker 2: will let you know that when opportunity presents itself.
Speaker 4: During Pride Night on Friday.
Speaker 2: On his hat his cap, there was a little inscription
Speaker 2: which said Genesis nine twelve sixteen, and if you're not
Speaker 2: familiar with that passage, this is on Pride Night for
Speaker 2: context quote and God said, this is the sign of
Speaker 2: the covenant that I make between me and you and
Speaker 2: every living creature that is with you for all future generations.
Speaker 2: I have set my bow in the cloud and it
Speaker 2: shall be a sign of the covenant between me and
Speaker 2: the earth. Talking about ratios, there has been some conjecture
Speaker 2: about whether Clayton Kershaw was saying, no, this is the
Speaker 2: true meaning of rainbow. It's not the Pride symbol. I know,
Speaker 2: you've seen the story. How did it look to you?
Speaker 3: It looked like exactly that.
Speaker 5: It looked like he was saying, you know, you guys
Speaker 5: kind of hijacked this symbol that has meant this one
Speaker 5: thing for generations, because it didn't used to mean that
Speaker 5: when I was a kid. I distinctly remember I was
Speaker 5: raised in the church, though, and I remember one time
Speaker 5: we moved to Capitol Hill.
Speaker 3: I'm from Denver, Colorado.
Speaker 5: That's kind of like our West Hollywood is in Capitol Hill,
Speaker 5: and I remember I drove down the street with my
Speaker 5: mom and I was like, there's so many Christians in
Speaker 5: this neighborhoods everywhere.
Speaker 3: That's such a good neighborhood.
Speaker 5: My mom was like, Okay, you know, I was too
Speaker 5: young for her to really break down to me what
Speaker 5: that meant. So I you know, and this might not
Speaker 5: be a popular opinion, I'm not mad at him for this.
Speaker 3: I feel like this is his belief system. It wasn't.
Speaker 5: The backlash would have been swift and severe if he
Speaker 5: hadn't participated, or if he didn't partake in any way,
Speaker 5: or maybe whatever. That's always a thing when people decide
Speaker 5: to opt out because they don't want to take part
Speaker 5: in Pride Night.
Speaker 3: We've seen athletes do that before.
Speaker 5: He is a Christian man, and so there's a lot
Speaker 5: of Christians that believe, you know, homosexuality is not a sin.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of Christians I believe homosexuality is a sin.
Speaker 5: Wherever he falls on that spectrum, that is his belief.
Speaker 5: And as long as he's not harming anyone or bringing
Speaker 5: any physical harm to anyone or berating anyone verbally, if
Speaker 5: he wants to remind everybody what the rainbow originally meant,
Speaker 5: I'm actually fine with it.
Speaker 4: I'm fine with it in this way.
Speaker 2: And this has nothing to do with Clayton Clearshaw specifically,
Speaker 2: but it has to do with athletes generally.
Speaker 4: Athletes will put slogans.
Speaker 2: And things, Bible verses on their shoes or cleats and
Speaker 2: what have you.
Speaker 4: It's not new.
Speaker 2: Different leagues respond differently, And if you are comfortable with
Speaker 2: putting who you are, whatever that means on your cleats,
Speaker 2: on your hat, and you're welcome with whatever response the
Speaker 2: league like. For example, if you do this in the NFL,
Speaker 2: if you make any type of variation in your uniform,
Speaker 2: you get fined instantly. Doesn't matter what you do. If
Speaker 2: you wear one sock too high the other sock too low,
Speaker 2: you get fine.
Speaker 5: Depending on who you are, though not every athlete gets
Speaker 5: fine in the same way.
Speaker 3: But that's story fun another day.
Speaker 4: Another thing.
Speaker 2: But my point is if you want to make some
Speaker 2: sort of statement and everyone knows that the camera's going
Speaker 2: to be on Clayton Krishaw, so he knew that people
Speaker 2: would see it, it would be enlarged and people would
Speaker 2: speculate if you're okay with whatever the response will be,
Speaker 2: be it fine.
Speaker 4: Questions in the media, then I'm fine with it.
Speaker 5: Right I When I saw this, my initial thought was like, uh, oh,
Speaker 5: you know, people are going to get upset. But at
Speaker 5: the same time, I feel the point that some people
Speaker 5: will miss is everyone has a right to live their
Speaker 5: life the way that they see fit that's best for them,
Speaker 5: as long as it's not causing harm to other people.
Speaker 5: So why you might while you might see this and
Speaker 5: be offended by it. That is a problem between you
Speaker 5: and whoever you pray to. This is his feeling, his
Speaker 5: belief system, and he is showing that in a very
Speaker 5: non evasive, non confrontational way, and he has every right
Speaker 5: to do that.
Speaker 4: Let's stay with the Dodgers real quick.
Speaker 2: And I didn't give you the story, but you may
Speaker 2: know about the TikTok singer Natalie who sang the national anthem,
Speaker 2: didn't chase the words, but saying it in Spanish against
Speaker 2: the wishes of the Dodgers, who said explicitly don't do that.
Speaker 2: They went carnation on this, said don't do that. You
Speaker 2: did it anyway? And was I offended?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 4: Was I think? Did I think it was the right
Speaker 4: thing to do?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 4: It goes back to Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 2: Now, if you believe in your heart that you need
Speaker 2: to do it, going back to protests, however that is,
Speaker 2: and you are willing to deal with whatever consequences in
Speaker 2: this case, she'll probably probably be never asked back by
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, then okay, follow your convictions.
Speaker 4: It didn't hurt anyone.
Speaker 2: And if you know the history of it, it's not
Speaker 2: the first time it's been done. You know, You're just
Speaker 2: it's just in another language. You're not changing the words
Speaker 2: to make a formal protest. You're not trying to say
Speaker 2: the land of the Free for immigrants in the home
Speaker 2: of the Brave and immigrants too. You didn't make any changes,
Speaker 2: you just say it in a different language.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's definitely a form of protest.
Speaker 5: And I think, you know, given this climate, especially what's
Speaker 5: happening to the Latino community in our country, that's why
Speaker 5: she did it like that. I would bet my last
Speaker 5: dollar that if what we're seeing with ice and things
Speaker 5: of that nature weren't happening, she wouldn't have even considered
Speaker 5: singing it in Spanish. So it was definitely a form
Speaker 5: of protest. And look, that's the time that we're in.
Speaker 5: People are the way that people protest. Not everybody's going
Speaker 5: to go out into the street and risk getting a
Speaker 5: rubber bullet in the thigh. You know, right, Mark, you
Speaker 5: got a rubber bullet in the thigh all over the place.
Speaker 5: Good gobally, So not everybody wants to be Mark Ronner.
Speaker 5: Safety first, Safety first, because I know that left a
Speaker 5: welt or two, Yeah, yeah I did.
Speaker 1: I Actually I don't bruise and those gave me massive bruises.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so see they're terrible. Not recommended.
Speaker 3: Next time, just sing a song in Spanish.
Speaker 4: No, well he can't sing. No, no, great plan, that's
Speaker 4: my plan.
Speaker 3: No, he said, I had to be on key.
Speaker 5: He wouldn't be the first person that sung that national
Speaker 5: anthem off key.
Speaker 2: Very quickly before we go, Antonio Brown, I want to
Speaker 2: call him a former NFL player At this point, I
Speaker 2: don't think anyone's going to sign him. I don't know
Speaker 2: if he's trolling, but he was a prominent Trump supporter.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's trolling because I don't think
Speaker 2: he's not. That's what I'm saying. I don't think I
Speaker 2: can't think him seriously with bost things that he say.
Speaker 2: But now he's wanted for attempted murder. A warrant has
Speaker 2: been issued for the rest of Antonio Brown with the
Speaker 2: shooting that took place in Miami last month.
Speaker 4: But that's not that's not even the main.
Speaker 2: Part of the story because in the story, as he
Speaker 2: was proclaiming his innocence, at the same time, he also said,
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to keep it as you know, peg
Speaker 2: as possible said that. Well, he said, quote, I had
Speaker 2: sex with your wife, Gavin as in Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Stop laughing more. I'm trying to.
Speaker 2: I don't there's no evidence that's been presented that there's
Speaker 2: actually connection between them. I do believe that there's something
Speaker 2: emotionally wrong with until Brown.
Speaker 3: He took that big hit.
Speaker 5: Anybody who's been following football, there was that moment in
Speaker 5: time when he was in Pittsburgh. He came over the
Speaker 5: middle and he got And ever since then, I've been
Speaker 5: saying this that he did not. You know, the NFL
Speaker 5: is horrible in my opinion when it comes to concussion protocol,
Speaker 5: especially given what they know about CTE, which can't be
Speaker 5: diagnosed until after you pass away. But the amount of
Speaker 5: time that they leave people in concussion protocol doesn't make
Speaker 5: sense to me. It's not really when we know for
Speaker 5: sure you're healed, it's when we need your back kind
Speaker 5: of thing. And so he's been out here playing with
Speaker 5: some mental stress so much so that we know Tom
Speaker 5: Brady moved him into his house, which I wouldn't have
Speaker 5: done that, Like, I'm a very nice person.
Speaker 4: But he's got enough money where he can just pay Yeah, and.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna get you servants and like a medical professional
Speaker 5: to be in there, a mental health care professional and
Speaker 5: all that. So you know, as far as him attempting
Speaker 5: to off somebody, I don't know. I have to see
Speaker 5: the video because it's said he was in a fight
Speaker 5: with several people.
Speaker 3: And so for me, you know, if it's.
Speaker 5: One on one, cool, depending on how I'm doing with
Speaker 5: you with somebody else, jump.
Speaker 3: Saying cool, But I don't care about attempted murder.
Speaker 4: Tell me about the governor's wife.
Speaker 3: I think the governor's wife is sitting at home and.
Speaker 2: Saying, there's a phrase we call catching astray, were you're
Speaker 2: not doing anything one someone, You're in a situation through
Speaker 2: no faulty, right, the governor's wife caught astray because I'm
Speaker 2: quite sure her communications person said, ma'am, we have to
Speaker 2: talk to you about it. Antonio Brown story, Did you
Speaker 2: have sex with a black football player at any time?
Speaker 5: She's like, first of all, I only have sex with
Speaker 5: people who comb their hair on a regular basis. Oh
Speaker 5: too far, too far, My bad?
Speaker 3: My bad?
Speaker 4: Is that too much time to go?
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