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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>Been joining me in the studio is Jackie Ray. Jackie

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<v Speaker 2>is great to see you. We missed you last week. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Now we have to talk about some athletes, and you

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<v Speaker 2>and I are usually in agreement. Athletes should have a

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<v Speaker 2>space to be able to talk about things other than

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<v Speaker 2>sports or their sport. Absolutely, you know, professional athletes are people,

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<v Speaker 2>and people have politics and beliefs.

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<v Speaker 3>But but here's the caveat some.

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<v Speaker 4>Of these guys, it's just idiots, just straight up idiots.

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<v Speaker 2>I got two idiots for you, Jackie Ray, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to see what you could gather from their idiocy. First,

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<v Speaker 2>is Miami heat guard Tyler Hero. Okay, and he can ball, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>get me wrong, but he doesn't believe any history before

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<v Speaker 2>the year nineteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen to this real thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah I think so, yeah, I don't think he's I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think he's behind history.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you said you don't believe he hap like Twitterland, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe anything that happened before nineteen fifty. Wait wait, no,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So wait, you don't believe something that happened, like like,

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<v Speaker 2>how do we know when did he when did he

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<v Speaker 2>come to the land or whatever?

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<v Speaker 4>Churchill, they said.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no way really knowing if it was him could be.

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<v Speaker 2>Involved, right, okay, the forest Columbus as if history did

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<v Speaker 2>not exist in any form before YouTube or YEV or videotape.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean like World War II happened before nineteen fifty?

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<v Speaker 5>How did Okay, here's that was a lot like I'm stuttering,

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<v Speaker 5>just just trying to regurgitate. So when you look at

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<v Speaker 5>this political landscape, if you don't know how we got here,

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<v Speaker 5>what do.

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<v Speaker 6>You think happening right now? This is a lung. Let's

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<v Speaker 6>say he's a voter, a voter he votes for. But

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<v Speaker 6>let's say he is a voter, his vote means as

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<v Speaker 6>much as mine in theory.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, But this is the problem then, because what is

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<v Speaker 5>he voting based upon?

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<v Speaker 3>He has no framework, his dumbosity. How did you?

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<v Speaker 5>Let's unpack this because if you don't believe in history,

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<v Speaker 5>when was the.

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<v Speaker 3>NBA created pre nineteen fifty? So you playing point? You

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<v Speaker 3>playing in a game you don't believe in.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop trying to make sense. Let's get to the other idiot,

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<v Speaker 2>because we'll be here all night. Amon Shumpert. He is

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<v Speaker 2>a retired NBA player. He played with Cleveland. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where else he played. He played with Lakers for

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<v Speaker 2>a hot second. Those who may be in just popular culture.

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<v Speaker 2>He was married to rapper and actress Tianna Taylor for

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<v Speaker 2>some time. Fumbled it fumbled that bag, as they say,

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<v Speaker 2>he is of the opinion, like an increasing number of

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<v Speaker 2>NBA players, is of the opinion that the Earth is

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<v Speaker 2>not spherical, or in his terminology, it's not round, And

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing you can do to convince him, prove to

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<v Speaker 2>him otherwise.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a mon shumper in all of his ignorants.

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<v Speaker 7>World being flat.

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<v Speaker 8>Bro, you have no proof that it's okay, that's.

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<v Speaker 4>What be crazy. How you're gonna prove to me is round?

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<v Speaker 7>And how have you ever like flown? Yeah, the whole time,

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<v Speaker 7>really never ever ever, you know it, don't look.

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<v Speaker 8>I never saw one of them little windows and saw

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<v Speaker 8>enough earth to see a curve.

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<v Speaker 7>You didn't do that. Look, but you can't see the

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<v Speaker 7>end of it, like I'm saying, if you like, go

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<v Speaker 7>to the go to the beach and look at the ocean.

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<v Speaker 7>It stops at one point because the curve you can't

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<v Speaker 7>keep going.

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<v Speaker 4>Like if it was flat, you could keep seeing.

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<v Speaker 7>You could pull out a telescope and see farther and farther.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to know, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 8>I could paint you a picture right now and draw

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<v Speaker 8>a straight line and you could say it looked like

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<v Speaker 8>a curve picture exactly look like from where?

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<v Speaker 5>Why Tiana Taylor somewhere going? Thank you Jesus.

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<v Speaker 4>How did that guy impress her?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, because I would have been done as

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<v Speaker 5>soon as he put an F on the end of Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>We are done.

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<v Speaker 2>For the science people out there, the curvature of the

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<v Speaker 2>Earth is about eight inches per mile. Okay, if you

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<v Speaker 2>can get up high enough or have enough distance and

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<v Speaker 2>get perspective, you'll see the curvature of the earth. Why

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<v Speaker 2>Imon Schumper thinks he's smarter than everyone else in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>even though he.

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't believe figured this out hundreds of years ago? Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like most of us when we were kids

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<v Speaker 5>in school, we made these sun dials and we could

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<v Speaker 5>see you know how so so did he fail that

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<v Speaker 5>or did he what happened? I need a history lesson

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<v Speaker 5>that Tyler hero doesn't believe exists.

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<v Speaker 2>I short of just putting all these dumb the fathers

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<v Speaker 2>on a rocket and take and shooting them off towards

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<v Speaker 2>the moon so they can Jeff Bezos Elon Musk helped

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<v Speaker 2>me out here where they can actually see it for themselves.

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<v Speaker 5>They will wallow, okay, But the thing is, though you

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<v Speaker 5>don't have to see it for yourself. Then NASA literally

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<v Speaker 5>has a camera that's in space.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't believe.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't believe anything that that's happening on the International

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<v Speaker 2>Space Station, the pictures which are being back to us.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't believe any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So short of them actually being in a rocket and

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<v Speaker 2>then they dip their head out the window and decompress

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<v Speaker 2>and explode because they think this probably just images being

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<v Speaker 2>pasted on the side of.

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<v Speaker 4>The right of the capsule. They're not going to believe.

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<v Speaker 5>That's insane. So what's that movie with Jim Carrey? Is

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<v Speaker 5>that what that they believe in the Truman Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe all of this is just a big lie,

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<v Speaker 2>But but that is.

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<v Speaker 4>Part and parcel.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the serious point of our nation today, because we

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<v Speaker 2>believe that everything is some sort of plot to deceive

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<v Speaker 2>us and control us, and everything which is told to

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<v Speaker 2>us is actually a lie, and we can't believe reality.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't believe history, we can't believe whatever we see

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<v Speaker 2>in the news today because fake news, fake news.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, I write, it's not real. What you're seeing is

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<v Speaker 5>not real. Okay, I invented that. But I know where

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<v Speaker 5>we are and it's and it's interesting though. It is

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<v Speaker 5>because I have I have people that you know, not

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<v Speaker 5>that I'm related to or I know personally, but that

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<v Speaker 5>I've been in acquaintance with, who i would consider really

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<v Speaker 5>intelligent and insightful but very religious at the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>And I've sat down with them and I've had conversation

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<v Speaker 5>and randomly I like museums, and so anytime there's a

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<v Speaker 5>new dinosaur thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I love dinosaurs. Where this is going, yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 3>where this is going.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't believe that dinosaurs existed because dinosaurs are not

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<v Speaker 5>in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bible, right, And according to the Bible, the Earth is

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<v Speaker 2>only so many thousands of.

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<v Speaker 5>Years ago, right, and so that way when people are saying,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, millions, so for them, nothing predates the Bible,

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<v Speaker 5>and so therefore dinosaurs don't exist. And then the bones

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<v Speaker 5>that are in the museum are absolutely fake and fabricated

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<v Speaker 5>to what end though, and that's always my question, what

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<v Speaker 5>how are you deceiving the people except for to say,

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<v Speaker 5>at some point we want somebody to make too many

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<v Speaker 5>series of Jurassic Park. Aside from that, what would be

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<v Speaker 5>the purpose of the lie?

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<v Speaker 2>The same with what would be the purpose of deceiving

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<v Speaker 2>all civilizations, not just in the United States, but all

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<v Speaker 2>civilization to convince them that the world is flat even

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<v Speaker 2>though scientifically.

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<v Speaker 5>There's so many holes in that, so many, so many,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, and what's the upside of it?

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<v Speaker 4>And when is someone going to find the edge of the.

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<v Speaker 5>Disc because listen, I used to tell now this person

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<v Speaker 5>was a friend, but no longer, not now, But I

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<v Speaker 5>used to tell him. I was like, listen, I know

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<v Speaker 5>for a fact the Earth is not flat, because if

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<v Speaker 5>it was, do you know how many people I were

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<v Speaker 5>to kick off the side of it?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I could make a really joke about certain news

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<v Speaker 2>going on today. Listen, there'll be a way in which

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<v Speaker 2>people would be removed from this country.

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<v Speaker 4>There was an edge. Not going to call it the earth.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Earth might be flat, but Earth is not.

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<v Speaker 4>Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Vague news. Jamie Fox,

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<v Speaker 4>That was.

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<v Speaker 2>Jammy Fox Fox when we come back, we got some

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<v Speaker 2>more athletes to talk about and what they've done, what

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<v Speaker 2>they said. Antonio Brown, he's in the news for two things.

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<v Speaker 2>One he's in the news for attempted.

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<v Speaker 4>Murder charges again.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said that he slept with Governor Newsom's wife.

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<v Speaker 4>Same story.

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<v Speaker 2>And also Clayton Kershaw what he had on his hat

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<v Speaker 2>on Pride Night. He had a Bible verse on Pride Night.

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<v Speaker 2>And people are trying to talk about the Bible and

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<v Speaker 2>Christian beliefs. People are trying to read into the message

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<v Speaker 2>he was trying to share. We're gonna talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>when we come back. KFI AM six forty Going Beyond

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about the dumbness Tyler Herro, the dumbness of

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<v Speaker 2>the Mond shemperd NBA. Now this we need to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say the views in Major League Baseball and football,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, this is kind of politics for both

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<v Speaker 2>of them. Let's start with Clinton Kershaw, Dodger's great first

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<v Speaker 2>ballot Hall of Famer. He's an outspoke When I say

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<v Speaker 2>outspoken Christian, he's not in a political sense. He you

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<v Speaker 2>just know that's a part of his life and he

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<v Speaker 2>will let you know that when opportunity presents itself.

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<v Speaker 4>During Pride Night on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>On his hat his cap, there was a little inscription

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<v Speaker 2>which said Genesis nine twelve sixteen, and if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>familiar with that passage, this is on Pride Night for

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<v Speaker 2>context quote and God said, this is the sign of

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<v Speaker 2>the covenant that I make between me and you and

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<v Speaker 2>every living creature that is with you for all future generations.

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<v Speaker 2>I have set my bow in the cloud and it

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<v Speaker 2>shall be a sign of the covenant between me and

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<v Speaker 2>the earth. Talking about ratios, there has been some conjecture

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<v Speaker 2>about whether Clayton Kershaw was saying, no, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>true meaning of rainbow. It's not the Pride symbol. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen the story. How did it look to you?

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<v Speaker 3>It looked like exactly that.

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<v Speaker 5>It looked like he was saying, you know, you guys

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<v Speaker 5>when I was a kid. I distinctly remember I was

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<v Speaker 5>That's kind of like our West Hollywood is in Capitol Hill,

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<v Speaker 3>That's such a good neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 5>My mom was like, Okay, you know, I was too

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<v Speaker 5>young for her to really break down to me what

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<v Speaker 5>that meant. So I you know, and this might not

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<v Speaker 5>be a popular opinion, I'm not mad at him for this.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like this is his belief system. It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 5>The backlash would have been swift and severe if he

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<v Speaker 5>or maybe whatever. That's always a thing when people decide

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<v Speaker 5>to opt out because they don't want to take part

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<v Speaker 5>in Pride Night.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen athletes do that before.

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<v Speaker 5>He is a Christian man, and so there's a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of Christians that believe, you know, homosexuality is not a sin.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a lot of Christians I believe homosexuality is a sin.

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<v Speaker 5>Wherever he falls on that spectrum, that is his belief.

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<v Speaker 5>And as long as he's not harming anyone or bringing

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<v Speaker 5>any physical harm to anyone or berating anyone verbally, if

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<v Speaker 5>he wants to remind everybody what the rainbow originally meant,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm actually fine with it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm fine with it in this way.

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<v Speaker 2>And this has nothing to do with Clayton Clearshaw specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>but it has to do with athletes generally.

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<v Speaker 4>Athletes will put slogans.

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<v Speaker 2>And things, Bible verses on their shoes or cleats and

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<v Speaker 2>what have you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not new.

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<v Speaker 2>Different leagues respond differently, And if you are comfortable with

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<v Speaker 2>putting who you are, whatever that means on your cleats,

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<v Speaker 2>on your hat, and you're welcome with whatever response the

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<v Speaker 2>league like. For example, if you do this in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>if you make any type of variation in your uniform,

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<v Speaker 2>you get fined instantly. Doesn't matter what you do. If

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<v Speaker 2>you wear one sock too high the other sock too low,

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<v Speaker 2>you get fine.

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<v Speaker 5>Depending on who you are, though not every athlete gets

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<v Speaker 5>fine in the same way.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's story fun another day.

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<v Speaker 4>Another thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But my point is if you want to make some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of statement and everyone knows that the camera's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be on Clayton Krishaw, so he knew that people

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<v Speaker 2>would see it, it would be enlarged and people would

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<v Speaker 2>speculate if you're okay with whatever the response will be,

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<v Speaker 2>be it fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Questions in the media, then I'm fine with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Right I When I saw this, my initial thought was like, uh, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, people are going to get upset. But at

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<v Speaker 5>the same time, I feel the point that some people

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<v Speaker 5>will miss is everyone has a right to live their

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<v Speaker 5>life the way that they see fit that's best for them,

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<v Speaker 5>as long as it's not causing harm to other people.

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<v Speaker 5>So why you might while you might see this and

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<v Speaker 5>be offended by it. That is a problem between you

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<v Speaker 5>and whoever you pray to. This is his feeling, his

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<v Speaker 5>belief system, and he is showing that in a very

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<v Speaker 5>non evasive, non confrontational way, and he has every right

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<v Speaker 5>to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's stay with the Dodgers real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't give you the story, but you may

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<v Speaker 2>know about the TikTok singer Natalie who sang the national anthem,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't chase the words, but saying it in Spanish against

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<v Speaker 2>the wishes of the Dodgers, who said explicitly don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>They went carnation on this, said don't do that. You

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<v Speaker 2>did it anyway? And was I offended?

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<v Speaker 8>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Was I think? Did I think it was the right

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<v Speaker 4>thing to do?

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<v Speaker 8>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>It goes back to Clayton Kershaw.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if you believe in your heart that you need

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<v Speaker 2>to do it, going back to protests, however that is,

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<v Speaker 2>and you are willing to deal with whatever consequences in

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<v Speaker 2>this case, she'll probably probably be never asked back by

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<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers, then okay, follow your convictions.

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<v Speaker 4>It didn't hurt anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you know the history of it, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the first time it's been done. You know, You're just

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<v Speaker 2>it's just in another language. You're not changing the words

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<v Speaker 2>to make a formal protest. You're not trying to say

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<v Speaker 2>the land of the Free for immigrants in the home

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<v Speaker 2>of the Brave and immigrants too. You didn't make any changes,

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<v Speaker 2>you just say it in a different language.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's definitely a form of protest.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think, you know, given this climate, especially what's

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<v Speaker 5>happening to the Latino community in our country, that's why

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<v Speaker 5>she did it like that. I would bet my last

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<v Speaker 5>dollar that if what we're seeing with ice and things

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<v Speaker 5>of that nature weren't happening, she wouldn't have even considered

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<v Speaker 5>singing it in Spanish. So it was definitely a form

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<v Speaker 5>of protest. And look, that's the time that we're in.

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<v Speaker 5>People are the way that people protest. Not everybody's going

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<v Speaker 5>to go out into the street and risk getting a

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<v Speaker 5>rubber bullet in the thigh. You know, right, Mark, you

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<v Speaker 5>got a rubber bullet in the thigh all over the place.

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<v Speaker 5>Good gobally, So not everybody wants to be Mark Ronner.

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<v Speaker 5>Safety first, Safety first, because I know that left a

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<v Speaker 1>I Actually I don't bruise and those gave me massive bruises.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so see they're terrible. Not recommended.

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<v Speaker 3>Next time, just sing a song in Spanish.

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<v Speaker 4>No, well he can't sing. No, no, great plan, that's

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<v Speaker 4>my plan.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he said, I had to be on key.

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<v Speaker 5>He wouldn't be the first person that sung that national

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<v Speaker 2>Very quickly before we go, Antonio Brown, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>call him a former NFL player At this point, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think anyone's going to sign him. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if he's trolling, but he was a prominent Trump supporter.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he's trolling because I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he's not. That's what I'm saying. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 2>can't think him seriously with bost things that he say.

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<v Speaker 2>But now he's wanted for attempted murder. A warrant has

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<v Speaker 2>been issued for the rest of Antonio Brown with the

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<v Speaker 2>shooting that took place in Miami last month.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's not that's not even the main.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the story because in the story, as he

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<v Speaker 2>was proclaiming his innocence, at the same time, he also said,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm trying to keep it as you know, peg

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<v Speaker 2>as possible said that. Well, he said, quote, I had

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<v Speaker 2>sex with your wife, Gavin as in Gavin Newsom.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Stop laughing more. I'm trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't there's no evidence that's been presented that there's

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<v Speaker 2>actually connection between them. I do believe that there's something

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<v Speaker 2>emotionally wrong with until Brown.

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<v Speaker 3>He took that big hit.

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<v Speaker 5>Anybody who's been following football, there was that moment in

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<v Speaker 5>middle and he got And ever since then, I've been

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<v Speaker 5>saying this that he did not. You know, the NFL

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<v Speaker 5>is horrible in my opinion when it comes to concussion protocol,

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<v Speaker 5>especially given what they know about CTE, which can't be

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<v Speaker 5>diagnosed until after you pass away. But the amount of

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<v Speaker 5>time that they leave people in concussion protocol doesn't make

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<v Speaker 5>sense to me. It's not really when we know for

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<v Speaker 5>sure you're healed, it's when we need your back kind

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<v Speaker 5>of thing. And so he's been out here playing with

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<v Speaker 5>some mental stress so much so that we know Tom

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<v Speaker 5>Brady moved him into his house, which I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 5>done that, Like, I'm a very nice person.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's got enough money where he can just pay Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna get you servants and like a medical professional

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<v Speaker 5>to be in there, a mental health care professional and

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<v Speaker 5>all that. So you know, as far as him attempting

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<v Speaker 5>to off somebody, I don't know. I have to see

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<v Speaker 5>the video because it's said he was in a fight

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<v Speaker 5>with several people.

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<v Speaker 3>And so for me, you know, if it's.

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<v Speaker 5>One on one, cool, depending on how I'm doing with

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<v Speaker 3>Saying cool, But I don't care about attempted murder.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me about the governor's wife.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the governor's wife is sitting at home and.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying, there's a phrase we call catching astray, were you're

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<v Speaker 2>not doing anything one someone, You're in a situation through

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<v Speaker 2>no faulty, right, the governor's wife caught astray because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>quite sure her communications person said, ma'am, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you about it. Antonio Brown story, Did you

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<v Speaker 2>have sex with a black football player at any time?

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<v Speaker 5>She's like, first of all, I only have sex with

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<v Speaker 5>people who comb their hair on a regular basis. Oh

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<v Speaker 5>too far, too far, My bad?

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<v Speaker 3>My bad?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that too much time to go?

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<v Speaker 1>Jackie Ray, you're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on

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