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<v Speaker 1>You froze. Then I left and joined and it kicked

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<v Speaker 1>me out, and then I came back in and you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't here, and then it said you're here.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know. There's a big red button on my

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<v Speaker 2>dashboard here, and I didn't even know really what it does.

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<v Speaker 2>I pressed it. Thank God, I'm not the president. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we recording already, so let's just have a

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<v Speaker 2>quick live production meeting. We're three or four days out

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<v Speaker 2>from a certain grand slam. Oh yeah, oh yeah, Mark

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<v Speaker 2>as Well. There's Mark as Will, There's darm Ap darm

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<v Speaker 2>apo h Bari's hit in Terns of Barley's. That's me.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had that tune in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my you know we did tennis player chance, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my one from the stands.

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<v Speaker 1>I can play that on the piano.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that in the east Enders theme.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But when we do a live show, I can't wait

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<v Speaker 2>for your your unplugged section, live production meeting. What do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do at the French when? What are

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<v Speaker 2>you I would love to do as much as possible,

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<v Speaker 2>like short pods, big pods. I don't care, but what

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be able to speak every day in some in

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<v Speaker 1>some perfect scale. Obviously, I just times and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I will have spare time perfect so like

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<v Speaker 2>we did at Win with him, we're just five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>minutes here and there and yeah yeah. On today's podcast

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<v Speaker 2>A Geneva eightyp two fifty, the only thing faster in

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<v Speaker 2>Geneva was the Higgs Boasom, wasn't it. You were you

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<v Speaker 2>were in, you were out the City of Peace. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're also going to talk the Roland Garross debut. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a come in and Federer forehand France special. WHOA, I'm Dave,

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<v Speaker 2>but you are actually Marcus Willison. You were actually playing

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<v Speaker 2>the French Open twenty twenty six. Is that sunk in yet?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it now like you just sauntering around in a

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<v Speaker 2>solid gold suit Grand Slam player?

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<v Speaker 1>You? I wish no, I mean, what's I mean? I

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<v Speaker 1>had Geneva for the weekend and so that was I'm

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<v Speaker 1>back home now, but I'm off to London tomorrow and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then Paris Saturday. So I haven't actually put

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<v Speaker 1>my flight yet. I need to look at that modation

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<v Speaker 1>we got on airbnb about just over a mile away

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<v Speaker 1>from the from the tennis so we can walk in

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<v Speaker 1>if we need. So I've just been organizing stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday I got home did my washing. I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>load of stuff to pack. So yeah, it's exciting, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I went to the gym yesterday, going

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<v Speaker 1>again today, grabbing a coffee. So no, not not really, mate,

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<v Speaker 1>not really. It's it's it's probably gonna kind of thinking

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<v Speaker 1>when I get there and pick up my pass and

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<v Speaker 1>get stuff going. But I'm very much in tournament and

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<v Speaker 1>match mode at the moment, like it's been relentless, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kind of in that swing of Okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get there, let's enjoy it, let's see the drawer, let's

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<v Speaker 1>try and win, and and then I'm straight into the grass.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I always knew this time of year would

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<v Speaker 1>be tricky, and I would have got a rest had

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<v Speaker 1>I not got into rolling Garris. But who needs a

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<v Speaker 1>rest right before.

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<v Speaker 2>We delve into the French, which obviously I just I'm

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<v Speaker 2>desperate to do. Let's talk about Geneva. How so that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't on the cards? Was it? An? ATP two fifty

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<v Speaker 2>in Geneva?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I ended with Yaka, we were five out

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<v Speaker 1>and now we were ten out or nine out anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we were out. I don't know what number day, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was quite a high number. So he said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a wild card with Strika. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>take that because I don't think we're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>in anyway. As I was in Bordeaux the day before

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<v Speaker 1>my second round quarterfinals, he messaged going, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of movement going up at the moment. So me and

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey Reyes after we lost our match, I was like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go home and I'll see you in Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, if anything changes or you want to

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<v Speaker 1>sign in for Geneva, then just put our names down.

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<v Speaker 1>So we did that and on the Friday night we

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<v Speaker 1>were five out. So the draw's already been made with

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<v Speaker 1>five hours, so I'm like, okay, well we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get in there anyway. Three of those pairs got

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<v Speaker 1>into Hamburg qualities, so there were two out. Then Mickey

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<v Speaker 1>knew someone was pulling out. This all happened over the

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<v Speaker 1>space of twenty four hours and he's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if the other guys are going to sign in.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only one match on Sunday. He signed us in

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday and no one else signed in and the

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<v Speaker 1>guy pulled out the same day, so we got put

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<v Speaker 1>in the drawer for Monday. So I'm like, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>home on what's Saturday or really late Friday out or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it was. And and by Sunday morning, yeah, on

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing to go to a kid's party or something,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, I've got in. I've got to try

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<v Speaker 1>and find a flight to Geneva because I might have

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<v Speaker 1>to play tomorrow. And I had to get an uber

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<v Speaker 1>to Manchester, flight to Geneva. Got to my turn around

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<v Speaker 1>ten pm. They put us first on on Monday, so

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<v Speaker 1>I had to get up early, have my rackets in,

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<v Speaker 1>go Jeb Walmart pick my rackets up. We had a

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<v Speaker 1>forty minute hit and then on we went for a match,

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<v Speaker 1>lost two and four. Played alright actually, but yeah it

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<v Speaker 1>was tight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Just the thing is with these it's like, Okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably not going to win most of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a chance that you might. And it's those

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<v Speaker 1>chances that if you keep getting in as alternates. These

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<v Speaker 1>two fifties are super strong because they're right before the French.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only one two fifty on and one five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>so everyone is here. But say you turn up for

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<v Speaker 1>ten of these and okay, you lose seven or eight,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the it's the other two. Like last year we

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<v Speaker 1>got last into UMAG. Actually we got in as alternates

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<v Speaker 1>and me and when I made the final, it's one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty points and it changed your career. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a lot of them you're going to turn up

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<v Speaker 1>and you're probably going to lose, but it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you turn up and I'm going to sound I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to sound like those club nurse we take the mink

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<v Speaker 1>out of But we lost the first set six to two,

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<v Speaker 1>and we lost all three due points. Yeah, second set,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a break back point at five to four.

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<v Speaker 1>We had three rate points in the match, didn't take

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<v Speaker 1>any It wasn't you know, with a better luck or

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<v Speaker 1>winning a bit more class or quality on those big points.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're into a match or into a battle and

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<v Speaker 1>potentially you can win and then you're into the quarter

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<v Speaker 1>finals forty five points in your back pocket. But the

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<v Speaker 1>part of me was like, do I really want to go?

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, I think it's turning up that it's important,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think when you do well, you look back

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<v Speaker 1>at these moments going I turned up everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the striker who's not scoring goals.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to keep giving yourself chances and the balls

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<v Speaker 2>can go in the net. Right, The proverbial one off

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<v Speaker 2>the backside is enough? So what about let's just think

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<v Speaker 2>about before we talk about the idea that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>into tournament thinking I'm probably not going to win this.

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<v Speaker 2>But on a Sunday morning, you're with the family and

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<v Speaker 2>then you say, right, I've got to go. Loads of

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<v Speaker 2>people have this, like we've got to go away from work.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to shoot. Do you look at the cost

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<v Speaker 2>of flights and hotels versus potential prize money?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I do. Yeah, that's where I went to Manchester.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean things out of London were nine hundred quid,

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<v Speaker 1>so I got a flight for two fifty from Manchester.

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<v Speaker 1>It cost me one hundred and fifty to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>I say five hundred prize moneys. Yeah, three and a

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<v Speaker 1>half grand split between two minus tacks. So I've made

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of money, go.

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<v Speaker 2>A few hundred quid basically, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's more than that. It's more I wouldn't yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean I went to Dallas. I flew trans

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<v Speaker 1>at landing at Dallas for no part prize money because

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<v Speaker 1>we lost the first round of the qualities there. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no money in there. So some of these weeks you

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<v Speaker 1>just you just do it. Yeah, because we lost in

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<v Speaker 1>the match Tibrek. Have we won that and qualified with

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<v Speaker 1>forty five points in our first five hundred? Who knows? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sure qualifiers have one five hundreds before, Like it's happened

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<v Speaker 1>quite a bit, so it's I don't know, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a disaster financially, okay, but it But also

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<v Speaker 1>you know, had I known I was in and I'd

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<v Speaker 1>have got there earlier, I would have spent you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a fraction of the cast and being better prepared. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. But also had I gone there as

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<v Speaker 1>an alternate, I'd spent you know, three hundred quid and

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<v Speaker 1>art in the hotel each night I'm there. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just don't do that. You don't go and turn

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<v Speaker 1>up five out and hope you're going to get in

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<v Speaker 1>and lose, lose fifteen hundred quid.

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<v Speaker 2>What does it? What does it mean for you that

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<v Speaker 2>you said that you could. You're going there, You're playing

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<v Speaker 2>a two fifty and the likelod is, you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to win a two fifty, right outright? Yeah, So you're

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<v Speaker 2>going there and you know that you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in a strong field, which improves your tennis, doesn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Playing a long highlights things, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Highlights things like I had a look at my surfercentages

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<v Speaker 1>and and how to look at them. What they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Where a lot of Cheli's or yeah, some two fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean we're playing Bambury and Venus Veoenis has

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<v Speaker 1>been six in the world. They're good. They lost to

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<v Speaker 1>Bloody Vavasori ten eight and Rome. These are the top

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<v Speaker 1>players in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So I messaged you, didn't I. I was like Venus, like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just every doubles match of I seem to remember

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty years, it's just like Venus seventy percent fair

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<v Speaker 2>service in and blah blah, you know, like just like

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<v Speaker 2>like he's like an algorithm, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, he's Yeah. I mean they're a good pair,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're a good pair. But yeah, you learn, you

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<v Speaker 1>learn playing those pairs. Sometimes you go through Celi's and

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<v Speaker 1>you win tennate or you lose, and it's like down

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<v Speaker 1>to luck or or you know a couple of moments

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, no one's exceptional. What it feels.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So as a football fan relating this back to England,

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<v Speaker 2>all my life, England have lost big matches to Argentina

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<v Speaker 2>and Brazil and stuff like this, and the pundits in

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<v Speaker 2>the studio afterwards said the players will learn a lot

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<v Speaker 2>from this, and then the next tournament we play with

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<v Speaker 2>the exactly right. So what did you what did you learn?

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<v Speaker 2>What got better?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, I know what I need to highlight. I

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<v Speaker 1>think my first percent and needs to be a tad hire.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was fifty eight. I won fourteen out of

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen first points when my serve landed, but I only

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<v Speaker 1>had fifty eight of them. I only got broken once

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<v Speaker 1>can't turn the lights on, but there's a master switching

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lovely hotel with the Amelia and you

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<v Speaker 2>need you need some sort of like degree in engineering

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<v Speaker 2>a lot in Lanzarotti, and the showers have like four

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<v Speaker 2>for you. And then there's other accessories for washing your

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<v Speaker 1>just simple effective two knobs heat and power. Yeah, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>ideally if I don't have to hop in and out

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<v Speaker 1>of a bath up and then I'm happy. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a bath person really. Two years and I

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, sorry, I thought you didn't like any

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<v Speaker 2>The shower curtain sticking to my skin. That makes me

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird and also how hygienic.

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<v Speaker 2>I don know. The other thing that is the least

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<v Speaker 2>hygienic thing in all hotel rooms is the pillows that

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<v Speaker 2>go on top of your bed because you're changed. They're

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<v Speaker 2>never ever getting cleaned.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's also good. Hotels have them are quilt and

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<v Speaker 1>then another layer of something and then like twelve pillows

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just a skimmy, yes, launching stuff in a corner.

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<v Speaker 2>That how tightly a hotel tucks in its bedding, like

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't untuck, you could wake up in the

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<v Speaker 2>morning a fossil.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. I've had to really like give it

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<v Speaker 1>some to get the corners.

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<v Speaker 2>Once, I actually double kicking, like I didn't once, I

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<v Speaker 2>just slid straight in and was there and I basically

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<v Speaker 2>I slept like a hostage and when I woke up

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, I was cold.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoy when they make a duck billed platypus

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<v Speaker 2>out of the towels.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, or they eat some five the five star

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<v Speaker 1>hotels in some country.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like the petals, Yes, the petals.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't even have a duvet. They just give you

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<v Speaker 1>a sheet and a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit of chocolate on your pillow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I got a per Lies Geneva two fifty cake

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for me in my room. It's like a flap

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<v Speaker 1>jackie thing with a chocolate top. It didn't last real long.

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke to I spoke to our message John Piers

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<v Speaker 1>to a photo of it, and I said, mine lasted

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<v Speaker 1>about forty five seconds here and yeah, I haven't eaten

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<v Speaker 1>mine yet. And I'm like, yeah, ah, you have something

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<v Speaker 2>Control with playferent John.

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<v Speaker 1>Different. Yeah, I mean I did leave there were they

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<v Speaker 1>left four many cakes out next to the covered machine.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have all of them. I had like one

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<v Speaker 1>buy it and left them. But like I think, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I don't have cake and sweets and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really eat sweets a headaches, allergies. But if

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate isn't in front of me, I very rarely go

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<v Speaker 1>and buy a chocolate bar.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, but if.

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<v Speaker 1>You start like dangling stuff in front of me and

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<v Speaker 1>I've just come off a long flight and I'm tired,

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<v Speaker 1>best decision isn't gonna be made. It was glorious as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I regret nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm so looking forward to after the

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<v Speaker 2>break talking about the French Open debut A sorry, Eli,

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the What A You're Talking About Willis

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast with me, Dave tennisist and person and him M Willis.

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<v Speaker 2>French Open competitor with Yaka Paul again like your your

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<v Speaker 2>little grand Slam wife, isn't it? So are you and

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<v Speaker 2>Yakov now like texting back and forth endlessly about different

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<v Speaker 2>plays and doubles tactics. He's playing Geneva, isn't He's still.

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<v Speaker 1>In Do you know? You know, Yaka, I've made this

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<v Speaker 1>mistake twice. He doesn't like to know the draw So

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia I was like, okay, so we're playing King Piers.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I've been told, so fast that and

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<v Speaker 1>he went, ah, so I never looked at the drawer.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have to talking about it. So what he

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<v Speaker 1>does is one night before the order of play will

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<v Speaker 1>come out and chick when he checks when he's playing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he'll see for the first time he's playing.

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<v Speaker 1>Its same for the second round. So I messaged him

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<v Speaker 1>after the after he won yesterday and said, do you

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<v Speaker 1>know who you're playing? And he went no, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>guessing Bamboo and Venus because they watched our whole match,

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<v Speaker 1>and I went, no, comment, he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Look have you ever heard of that before?

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<v Speaker 1>There's a few players that do it. Apparently, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>like ah, I said, my life is so sad that

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I heard about Roger Federer with you?

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<v Speaker 2>I heard the Federer got your match against Parancis and

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<v Speaker 2>watched it in its entirety with his team.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he had tools three scouts watching the match as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently, whoa, We're going to do a Roger Fear special

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<v Speaker 2>thing coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all there where I'd hit a ball at the

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<v Speaker 1>start and he was just there, and I'm like, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>Was why last thing I need?

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<v Speaker 1>And obviously my scout on him was highlights, which is

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<v Speaker 1>super steady, and I'm what's going on, Roger? Can you

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<v Speaker 1>take a risk?

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<v Speaker 2>Please hit a tweener?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Just hit just slash one you can, Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>So miss miss subde.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh okay. So it's ker pull now for those of

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<v Speaker 2>for those new to the Pard who went with us

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<v Speaker 2>in the Aussie Open, yakub is, I mean, so what

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<v Speaker 2>side is he going to play? It's going to play

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<v Speaker 2>outside And I mean his returning is a standout right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously i'd heard the name. I've seen like little bits.

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<v Speaker 2>I hadn't really concentrated on him as a tennis player.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was before the Aussie he was playing in

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<v Speaker 2>that International Cup thing for Switzerland, wasn't he correct? Well

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<v Speaker 2>done him? And it's the returning like he's on the baseline, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and like the but he's back here right the rackets

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<v Speaker 2>like proper back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't understand the lord, I'll do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>he's got an exceptional ability to time the ball. I

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<v Speaker 1>hit it very hard and very low over them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a regular, isn't it. It's And

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if he's the kind of player who says,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how just his just his mate, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what I'm doing. So what did you get

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<v Speaker 2>from the Aussie Open? And what can transfer to like

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<v Speaker 2>the clay courts at the French, Well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be quite quick at the French.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking at the weather, it's going to be plus thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>that will help us serve for sure. What can we transfer.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've played two matches in the Aussie Open

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<v Speaker 1>and two very different conditions. So the first one was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot quicker in the sun, and the second one

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<v Speaker 1>was obviously Rod labor late at night. So yeah, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, couple like the way the ball's moving.

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<v Speaker 1>as funny, all that stuff. I love it, really, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, but yeah, so yeah, well we'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>work out, you know, how much with servolleting, how much

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<v Speaker 1>we're staying back, stuff like that. But we're getting there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting there Saturday, well if I don't put my flight,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll have at least two days of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three three practice sets, two or three practice sets of

421
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<v Speaker 1>those days to work out what's going on and do

422
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<v Speaker 1>some reps and yeah, do podcasts and stuff.

423
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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about the logistics. I'm personally really excited

424
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<v Speaker 2>to see you with Yaka because I think it's a

425
00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:35.279
<v Speaker 2>good pair. I think it complements you as well, for

426
00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:38.440
<v Speaker 2>the the ability to kind of turn the point around

427
00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:43.079
<v Speaker 2>when he's returning you can get quickly like I think,

428
00:24:43.279 --> 00:24:47.720
<v Speaker 2>it gives you an opportunity at the net where sometimes

429
00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:51.319
<v Speaker 2>you see that more passive return, especially if you're both back,

430
00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:55.279
<v Speaker 2>you can get caught right. Yeah, and that's up in

431
00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:57.920
<v Speaker 2>the net, the big strength of yours. So I'm quite

432
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<v Speaker 2>excited actually about it. I don't think any is going

433
00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:05.000
<v Speaker 2>to want to play, you guys, No, So let's talk

434
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<v Speaker 2>about the logistics. So you find out you're playing a

435
00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:13.079
<v Speaker 2>French Open, and then you do what you move, doctor's

436
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:15.359
<v Speaker 2>appointments or whatever else you gore going on in your life.

437
00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:17.960
<v Speaker 2>How do you find where you're going to stay? Did

438
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:21.039
<v Speaker 2>the ATP help, the Rondan garrets help.

439
00:25:21.680 --> 00:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>There's an app where they have like hotels but they

440
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:27.640
<v Speaker 1>can book for you and stuff like that. But by

441
00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:30.720
<v Speaker 1>the time I got in, obviously a lot of places

442
00:25:30.759 --> 00:25:33.599
<v Speaker 1>have gone. So there's some places you can stay for

443
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:36.759
<v Speaker 1>six hundred a night, which I'm obviously not going to do.

444
00:25:39.200 --> 00:25:41.559
<v Speaker 1>But a lot of players, there's a lot of dubskuies

445
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:45.119
<v Speaker 1>I spoke to. But Airbnbs, yeah, because they've got teams

446
00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>or there's other people then I've got obviously I'm going

447
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<v Speaker 1>with Adam, so I thought, I mean we could share

448
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<v Speaker 1>a room at an ebys or something like that, it

449
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:53.599
<v Speaker 1>would be similar costs. But we've got a room each

450
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<v Speaker 1>in an apartment with a kitchen. Yeah, fifteen to twenty

451
00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:00.960
<v Speaker 1>minute walk from site if we want, or we can

452
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:04.279
<v Speaker 1>get the official car whatever, whatever, it's easier. But I

453
00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>always try and get apartments when it's not included. Obviously

454
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.680
<v Speaker 1>at ATPs and Challengers, they have an official hotel and

455
00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:13.720
<v Speaker 1>they put you in so Grand Slams you can do

456
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<v Speaker 1>your own thing. So I had an apartment in Australia.

457
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I stay with family friends when I'm playing Wimbledon US.

458
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:27.559
<v Speaker 1>I got hotel yeah, be tougher in New York because

459
00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:31.720
<v Speaker 1>it was yeah, but it was also you remember that

460
00:26:31.839 --> 00:26:33.559
<v Speaker 1>story right now, We went and signed it and didn't

461
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:36.720
<v Speaker 1>get it and then got in. That was also a

462
00:26:36.759 --> 00:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>financial risk which paid off.

463
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<v Speaker 2>So you you're going to arrive, What do you know

464
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<v Speaker 2>about the this is the first time you've played it.

465
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<v Speaker 2>What do you know about where the practice facilities are,

466
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:49.319
<v Speaker 2>how it all works, like is it a bit like

467
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:52.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, does anyone show you around or do they

468
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:54.480
<v Speaker 2>just presume that you're a tennis sist and you just

469
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<v Speaker 2>get on with it.

470
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<v Speaker 1>I think there's yes, there's players packages and you work

471
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:01.960
<v Speaker 1>out where stuff is. I went last year to sign in.

472
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:03.759
<v Speaker 1>We were three out, weren't we So we me and

473
00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>went for the day to sign in. So I know

474
00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:09.680
<v Speaker 1>offside practice court, so like a five to ten minute

475
00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:12.200
<v Speaker 1>buggy right away. So you get on a buggy and

476
00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>you go to the off site and practice there. A

477
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:18.079
<v Speaker 1>lot of the time there's different sites you practice. Very

478
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:20.200
<v Speaker 1>rare you get a match court because there's obviously matches

479
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:24.279
<v Speaker 1>going on. A matches start early and obviously a lot

480
00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:26.279
<v Speaker 1>of singles players in by the time we're there as well.

481
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:31.880
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you turn up, you ask a few questions.

482
00:27:31.960 --> 00:27:36.319
<v Speaker 1>I'll explain everything. Adam's already there so he'll know where

483
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>things are.

484
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Why has he gone early?

485
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeh, because he went. He's coaching all of a crime,

486
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:42.680
<v Speaker 1>so he went with him.

487
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:46.839
<v Speaker 2>So he'll be able to give you a bit of

488
00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:50.039
<v Speaker 2>the layer of the land. Is there the So I

489
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:53.839
<v Speaker 2>heard about a footballer once who signed for a huge

490
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:57.480
<v Speaker 2>football team. It's very successful FA Cup winning football team

491
00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:00.920
<v Speaker 2>in South London, and he signed through and he went

492
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.519
<v Speaker 2>in first day and he sat in the locker room

493
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:09.000
<v Speaker 2>and the star player of that team walked in the room,

494
00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:14.400
<v Speaker 2>and the whole place just went silent, and the star

495
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:17.960
<v Speaker 2>player didn't say anything. He walked over, got all of

496
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:21.240
<v Speaker 2>this new signings kit and just lobbed it across the

497
00:28:21.319 --> 00:28:28.039
<v Speaker 2>floor and then you signing had to walk away and sorry, sorry, sorry,

498
00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 2>sorry sorry sorry like that right? Why because that's his

499
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:36.559
<v Speaker 2>bloody seat mate? Is there a danger? You turn up

500
00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:40.920
<v Speaker 2>at the French, You stroll into the canteen, you get

501
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:46.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, some onion soup and some escargo bagget.

502
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:48.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a couple of them.

503
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:54.519
<v Speaker 2>Straight in and you sit on the table and then

504
00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:57.279
<v Speaker 2>there's a little tap on the shoulder and Novak says,

505
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<v Speaker 2>I have the table by the window. Is there any

506
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:04.279
<v Speaker 2>of that? Ah? What shame.

507
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:09.119
<v Speaker 1>Exact, because I mean they've normally got big teams, those guys,

508
00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:13.799
<v Speaker 1>so you see them or they're set up or but yeah,

509
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's what happened to me.

510
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:20.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, if it does on this pod, please no one.

511
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 1>I think people know, people know I'm respected and I'm

512
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>not going to.

513
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Move last my cargo. On the last part we got, uh,

514
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.359
<v Speaker 2>it kind of dawned on me how wonderful it is

515
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:39.960
<v Speaker 2>that you're going to play the French and maybe landed

516
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:44.400
<v Speaker 2>with you as well, What does this mean for you

517
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:49.880
<v Speaker 2>in terms of ranking points? Like, are you looking at

518
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.200
<v Speaker 2>this and thinking if we can win around again like

519
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:55.119
<v Speaker 2>you did at the like you did a win like

520
00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:57.559
<v Speaker 2>you did at the US, like you did at the Aussie. Right,

521
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:02.240
<v Speaker 2>you can win around puts me sixty seven if I

522
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.039
<v Speaker 2>can be sixty Oh, if I could win another one,

523
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:06.559
<v Speaker 2>I could be sixty four if I'm seeing and so on.

524
00:30:06.680 --> 00:30:07.559
<v Speaker 2>Do you look at it like that?

525
00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Sometimes I look at the live ranking and I

526
00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>know I've got coming off. I've obviously got Queens and

527
00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Wimbledon and then EU mag a few weeks later. So

528
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>it'd be nice to put some points on the board.

529
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:23.559
<v Speaker 1>But more important than that, how cool would it be

530
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:28.559
<v Speaker 1>served like one matches at every single Yeah, obviously the

531
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:31.039
<v Speaker 1>aim is to win the tournament, but so so's everyone's.

532
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, to be in that second round, you know,

533
00:30:38.119 --> 00:30:39.599
<v Speaker 1>walk out and go out, that would be awesome.

534
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:41.519
<v Speaker 2>So you don't look at it in like a it's

535
00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:44.240
<v Speaker 2>a make or break situation here, like if I can

536
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:47.359
<v Speaker 2>get three wins, then.

537
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:50.000
<v Speaker 1>It'd be great the next eighteen change.

538
00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:52.480
<v Speaker 2>It's not like that. It doesn't hang in a balance

539
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:52.759
<v Speaker 2>like that.

540
00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:56.400
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not enough and I mean, it's only life

541
00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:59.279
<v Speaker 1>changing if you make final, semifinal, win the tournament. Yeah,

542
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:02.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, third round will be one hundred and eighty points.

543
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>That would still not for my top fifties. It's the

544
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:08.599
<v Speaker 1>gaps are huge trying to climb up, ye, but they're

545
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>also you know, if I lost all my points, I

546
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>check yesterdaf, I lost all my points from now until

547
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>after mag I'm still top hundering the world.

548
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:15.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

549
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:18.079
<v Speaker 1>So you're kind of stuck in that thing, and the

550
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:20.519
<v Speaker 1>only way to really jump up is to do something special,

551
00:31:20.559 --> 00:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>which I believe I can do at some point. But

552
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I need you know, you need to start to align.

553
00:31:26.240 --> 00:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>You need to, as I say, keep turning up, keep

554
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:31.240
<v Speaker 1>doing your best, keep working hard, and then you know,

555
00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>historically it's clicked before, but I don't know. Yeah, who knows.

556
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like I've got a good run in

557
00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:41.279
<v Speaker 1>me at a slam somewhere or an ATP or something.

558
00:31:41.519 --> 00:31:44.599
<v Speaker 2>I told you what our mutual mate said, one day,

559
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>you're going to accidentally win Wimbledon.

560
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:47.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so.

561
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Bloody ell, bloody got one trying out loud a missed

562
00:31:59.240 --> 00:32:07.279
<v Speaker 2>country file. So let's think about financially. Tennis basically has

563
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:11.680
<v Speaker 2>four highlights a year, much like athletics has one highlight

564
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:15.880
<v Speaker 2>every four years, right four times a year. Tennis becomes

565
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:19.400
<v Speaker 2>a news item, front page, full up stands, and it's

566
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:21.759
<v Speaker 2>where the big bucks are. You just said to us

567
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:26.359
<v Speaker 2>earlier that Geneva's worth fifteen hundred quid or so what's

568
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:29.079
<v Speaker 2>the French open worth to you now?

569
00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Prize money, prize money. I don't know if you can

570
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>find that, I'm sure it'd be.

571
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:37.480
<v Speaker 2>So you don't know. You don't instantly look at it

572
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:39.720
<v Speaker 2>and think, oh, I'm quits in, I'm going to get this.

573
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I have a look, I have a look at the

574
00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>different rounds, and I think, I think it's just under

575
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:50.200
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand euros to turn up, and then if you

576
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:52.359
<v Speaker 1>win around it doesn't double or maybe go to fifteen

577
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:55.400
<v Speaker 1>thousand euros something like that. And then I think the

578
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>winner gets three hundred k. When let's get three hundred k.

579
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:05.599
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, it's it's good money. It's it's nine and

580
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:07.119
<v Speaker 1>a half thousand euros for eight and a half.

581
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:07.799
<v Speaker 2>That's split.

582
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>But then yeah, no, no, no, as a per person,

583
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>so your your nine, you make you make a slam,

584
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>your make ten grand ish turn up. But then my

585
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 1>abnb's twelve hundred. Then you're paying Adam and his expenses

586
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and my expenses. Sure, I mean it's so you can

587
00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:31.319
<v Speaker 1>clean five so, but so you don't instantly.

588
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Look at it and go, what a five ground up?

589
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>That's great, it's great, of course, the financial stuff it's

590
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:42.799
<v Speaker 1>it's it's more than that. I suppose it's great, but

591
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:44.559
<v Speaker 1>I know how long five grand last?

592
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:49.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course, I mean, Jesus Christ, it's a bit

593
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:52.079
<v Speaker 2>of breathing in London. Now you pull bloody, that's all

594
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.400
<v Speaker 2>it is. Thirty pounds out of a cash point. You've

595
00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:57.160
<v Speaker 2>spent on one twix. It's ridiculous.

596
00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:00.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's, it's but it's also know how much I'm

597
00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna be traveling and playing and it's yeah, so it so,

598
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's it's great because there's very few toalrents

599
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>where you get that kind of money turn up. But

600
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.800
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, it's okay, it is what it is.

601
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Let's try and win this first round and prepares best

602
00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:20.880
<v Speaker 1>we can. It's because I didn't think that the US Open.

603
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I got in and the money was great, but then

604
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, right, we've got to play a match,

605
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 1>and then you make third round you get twenty twenty

606
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:31.000
<v Speaker 1>five k or something of that, and that's nice. Yeah,

607
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:32.599
<v Speaker 1>but also it.

608
00:34:32.719 --> 00:34:35.199
<v Speaker 2>Goes okay, So final question I've got for you, because

609
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:38.320
<v Speaker 2>we're going to speak closer to the French and daily

610
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:46.559
<v Speaker 2>level of nerves one to four four being can't think

611
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:49.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll breathe one being French?

612
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>What may where are you right now? One? Jesus Christ?

613
00:34:57.519 --> 00:34:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Do you know what's right?

614
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Am one? Because it's it's it's like I'm quite good

615
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:04.840
<v Speaker 1>at going right. Well, I gotta do today and I'm

616
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:07.639
<v Speaker 1>already thinking I'm speaking to you. Then I've got stuff

617
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to do today and washing it and it's like I

618
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:11.599
<v Speaker 1>don't have time to sit there and you know.

619
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:16.320
<v Speaker 2>What this is where you are different from normals. You

620
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:16.960
<v Speaker 2>can't know it.

621
00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:19.679
<v Speaker 1>But but if this was my first Slam day, it

622
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>would be very different. It's my first friend open and

623
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:24.599
<v Speaker 1>but like by the time I get there, you know,

624
00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:26.559
<v Speaker 1>an hour before the match or the night before the match,

625
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:31.639
<v Speaker 1>I'll start getting Will you get to four? Hopefully not?

626
00:35:33.880 --> 00:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Probably be at three?

627
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, four doesn't exist, don't worry about it.

628
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Four. No, four can happen sometimes, but it's not it's

629
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<v Speaker 1>not helpful. No better nerves are helpful. Sometimes it gives

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<v Speaker 1>you a better drive, for like when you go too far,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's crippling.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, where would you say you are one to four

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<v Speaker 2>with the nation's favorite quiz feder aforehand French Special.

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<v Speaker 1>Four.

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<v Speaker 2>It's coming up after the break. Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 2>final part of the What You're talking About Willis podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>Before we go ooh, French, it's time for the Federer forehand.

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<v Speaker 2>You know exactly what it's like to face Tennis's most

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful and wonderful site, which is Roger Fedder's forehand. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you a list of French items

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<v Speaker 2>and you've got to tell me whether they are better

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<v Speaker 2>or worse than Roger Federer's forehand. So far it started

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<v Speaker 2>off being quite a tight competition to things that are worse.

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<v Speaker 2>But we've noticed on the last one quite a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>even things like I don't know a biscuit ended up better.

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<v Speaker 2>So you did on the last one. You told me

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<v Speaker 2>to remind you, just to dial it back in and

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it's Roger Fedder's forehand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, So I get carried away, especially.

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<v Speaker 2>With food French special h croissant like fresh, like warm, fresh,

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<v Speaker 2>not from a petrol station.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, if you didn't give me that pep talk, I'll say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a nute.

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<v Speaker 2>Roger Pedro's forehead is better. Joan of Arc.

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<v Speaker 1>John Dark uh wor sorry Joan?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Camon beer worse Louis Viton, Yeah, worse, Tour de France.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, grower got a car. Why did you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I like the light crower.

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<v Speaker 2>They get.

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<v Speaker 1>The most overrated thing in France. Worst.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Citron.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't. Well that's just like lime.

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<v Speaker 2>Citron the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like the citron. There is a lime and citron

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<v Speaker 1>is a lemon.

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>The car what? I drive one recently, but very nice,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I find they always they're small. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know where to drive him? A where them as a coat? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Really a beret?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh no, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't be. There's only yes or no,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it? There's no equal man?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the very close not the there's images this week

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<v Speaker 2>of John Travolta sporting a beret because he's directed a film.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to wear a beret like a film director would.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I love that. Do you know what

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<v Speaker 2>we'll do? One day, We'll do a special on John

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<v Speaker 2>Travolta because this will amaze you. I've got a mutual mate,

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<v Speaker 2>do you, Yeah, let's just get him on. A mate

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<v Speaker 2>of mine trades watches with John Travolta. Yeah, okay, creeps, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>any topic you ont so.

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<v Speaker 1>They do the correct restaurants where you get a savoryone

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<v Speaker 1>as a mane and then you deserve one, and they

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<v Speaker 1>have like salted caramel better, Yes, it's better than Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they have like duck crape. Yeah, a good one. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Roger rene Lacoste not only just as a tennis player

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<v Speaker 2>as in like it was world number one in the nineties, ready,

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<v Speaker 2>but as a fashion brand as well. His nickname is

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<v Speaker 2>the Crocodile. I love that. No, I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's lovely stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, film noir, black and white films, moody.

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<v Speaker 1>Nah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. This might be the hardest question you've ever faced.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the following better than Roger Fedder's forehand m Richard

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<v Speaker 2>Gasque's backhand?

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<v Speaker 1>Decide? Oh uh?

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<v Speaker 2>When I came up with that question, I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Parkinson.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, no, I'd say it's better because what was

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<v Speaker 1>gas What's the best thing he ever did? In tennis.

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<v Speaker 1>It was obviously a very good player. Conf you send

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<v Speaker 1>me to slam? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the whole time,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time. That's it was great. I used to

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<v Speaker 1>when I first got into Challisystan, what if I'm watching

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<v Speaker 1>because because of the back end, pretty much all of it,

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<v Speaker 1>he was just so I don't know, but yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>backhands is insane. So Richard gas backup had ever miss

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<v Speaker 1>what as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Do you know anyone has ever played him? Anyone

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<v Speaker 2>has ever spoken about it?

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<v Speaker 1>No, A few Brits have, but I've never spoken about it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a pretty chilled out guy. He doesn't really socialize

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<v Speaker 1>that much. I saw him, he was he was like

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the little Challenger in February. Was there chilling?

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<v Speaker 1>I was a dick every time you look at him.

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<v Speaker 1>Just think of that, don't you. That's the thing. Whereas

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, his forehand was insane and sunning, but like

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of his game was as well. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like he only had a whereas Gascade like his the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of his game was good and very good, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>but his back end was just yeah, yeah, you go,

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<v Speaker 1>you go. One of the best backhands in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly single hand as he's he's up there. It was him,

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<v Speaker 1>this stand.

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<v Speaker 2>Head ad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, not many woes or anymore the women in

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<v Speaker 3>eight weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the flourish, the final flourish on that question

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<v Speaker 2>is huge, isn't it just huge? Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for your time, say mate, best of luck with a

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<v Speaker 2>prep and I can't wait to speak to you over

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend. I'll speak you soon, excited or of what Hello?

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<v Speaker 4>on the trumpets and the position the Army Blues

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<v Speaker 1>Worked out that