Speaker 1: It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Amma Friedman, thank you very much. We welcome our listeners
Speaker 2: to our first edition of Nightside twenty twenty five. Before
Speaker 2: we start, let me just thank my friend Morgan White,
Speaker 2: who was sat in for me for the last week
Speaker 2: and a half, which has allowed me to recover from
Speaker 2: whatever the heck I had bronchiitist, upper respiratory infection, whatever.
Speaker 2: And we had planned a show tonight was intended to
Speaker 2: be fairly light, kind of an easing back into twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five. But I will tell you that it's changed
Speaker 2: a little bit because of what has happened early this
Speaker 2: morning in New Orleans. We will get to all of
Speaker 2: that in just a moment. Remind you my name is
Speaker 2: Dan Ray. I'm the host of Nightside, heard most every
Speaker 2: Monday through Friday night right here in WA Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2: Dan Cantano is behind the boot tonight. In the Boot
Speaker 2: tonight because Robber's on vacation and Dana do a great
Speaker 2: job and the story of the day, as I say,
Speaker 2: will in intended and we may get to some of
Speaker 2: these topics later. Things. You know, there would be a
Speaker 2: little lighter things like New Year's resolutions. What have I
Speaker 2: been dealing with? And have any of you been dealing with?
Speaker 2: This horrific cough and cold, It doesn't seem to go away.
Speaker 2: And also remembering Jimmy Carter, a president who I spent
Speaker 2: a lot of time with, some time with both before
Speaker 2: he was president, while he was president, and after his president.
Speaker 2: But the big story of the day overwhelms all of that,
Speaker 2: and that is this horrific terrorist attack, clearly terrorist attack
Speaker 2: in New Orleans, which has now taken the lives of
Speaker 2: fifteen people, fifteen Americans who were in the French Quarter
Speaker 2: last night welcoming the new year. All of us were
Speaker 2: welcoming it on our own way. And who better to
Speaker 2: talk about this briefly? But my next guest, my first guest,
Speaker 2: my only guest tonight, form a Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis,
Speaker 2: who himself was in charge of the Boston Police Department
Speaker 2: at the time of the marathon bombing back in April
Speaker 2: of twenty thirteen. And so, and first of all, happy
Speaker 2: New Year to you and yours. But what a horrific
Speaker 2: way to start the new year here in America with
Speaker 2: a terrorist attack like this I'd love to just open
Speaker 2: up with your thoughts. I mean, you've seen it up
Speaker 2: close and personally before you told me that you recently,
Speaker 2: I guess had lunch with the sheriff in Harris County, Texas,
Speaker 2: where I guess search warrants and investigations of being conducted
Speaker 2: tonight to find out what the real story was behind
Speaker 2: this fellow who took the lives of fifteen people. Welcome
Speaker 2: back to the Night's side of Davis. Sorry about the
Speaker 2: long introduction.
Speaker 3: Oh no worries. Dan, It's great to talk to you
Speaker 3: as always, and you know, it's great to talk to
Speaker 3: you on the first day of the year, but tragic
Speaker 3: that it's about this topic. So we've been dealing with
Speaker 3: it all day today and it was a heck of
Speaker 3: a way to get woke up this morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure that you must have, you know, flashbacks
Speaker 2: to what we went through here in Boston in a
Speaker 2: little over ten years ago, little over now, almost twelve
Speaker 2: years ago when you come to Sapril as you watched
Speaker 2: television today and I know that you were on some
Speaker 2: of the network newscasts. How could this happen? It looks
Speaker 2: to me like they were preparing for the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: and they kind of let their guard down. I guess
Speaker 2: there were certain I'm not familiar with the term bullyards,
Speaker 2: which are those steel pipes sticking up out of the
Speaker 2: ground in front of the State House and elsewhere that
Speaker 2: would become very familiar with. Those were in the process
Speaker 2: of being replaced, so they were not on Bourbon Street,
Speaker 2: which gave this guy every opportunity to swing around the
Speaker 2: police cars which were blocking the intersections and and do
Speaker 2: what he came to do.
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, we we we actually deal with ballards a
Speaker 3: lot in my line of business because we're constantly doing
Speaker 3: inspections of of businesses and corporations to make sure that
Speaker 3: they're secure. And and these devices really do protect you
Speaker 3: from a threat from a motor vehicle. Sometimes it's accidental,
Speaker 3: somebody just losing control of the car, but we use
Speaker 3: them and recommend them to companies all the time. And
Speaker 3: and it, you know, it seems as though there was
Speaker 3: a decision made to change them out, and and and
Speaker 3: and instead of putting temporary ballats in or some other
Speaker 3: device which you can what you can get your hands
Speaker 3: on fairly easily, they decided to just park a police
Speaker 3: cruiser in the intersection and as we saw, this suspect
Speaker 3: was able to sneak his way around onto the sidewalk
Speaker 3: and passed the car quite frankly before the police officer
Speaker 3: even realized what was going on. From the looks of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that that videotape. And by the way,
Speaker 2: you know, for those who are unaware, you now have
Speaker 2: a have a company which consults with corporations with I'm
Speaker 2: sure states and cities about what you have through your
Speaker 2: experience become an expert in and that is that is security.
Speaker 2: What's the name of the is it uh at Davis.
Speaker 3: Wood Davis Company at the end with Davis Company.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, so this happens. It's it's inconceivable, but it
Speaker 2: happens more frequently. This guy apparently served in the US Army.
Speaker 2: He had a couple of stants, one with the regular
Speaker 2: Army and went to Afghanistan, was deployed to Afghanistan UH
Speaker 2: and then came back and spent a few years in
Speaker 2: the I guess the Texas Army reserve a Texas national card.
Speaker 2: This is this is eerily familiar with the Fort Hoods
Speaker 2: shooter Nadal Hassan of two thousand and nine, a US
Speaker 2: major who who who slaughtered troops inside Fort Hood does?
Speaker 2: How does this happen that you know from your experience
Speaker 2: that someone who obviously serves in our military for a long,
Speaker 2: extended period of time somehow can get radicalized and go
Speaker 2: off and do something like this to fellow Americans, fellow
Speaker 2: human beings.
Speaker 3: Right, it is a terrible thing to consider and something
Speaker 3: that shouldn't follow. I mean, people take an oath to
Speaker 3: the loyalty to the company, to the country. They are,
Speaker 3: you know, literally risking their lives to protect the country,
Speaker 3: and then something happens and and you know, the the
Speaker 3: concept of home grow own island extremists is something that
Speaker 3: the Justice Department and the FBI have been preaching about
Speaker 3: for many years now. And anybody can be corrupted. I
Speaker 3: spoke to a good friend who's in the intelligence community,
Speaker 3: and he said something I thought resonated, which which is,
Speaker 3: you know, we train these guys and our worst nightmare
Speaker 3: is that they take their training and use it against us.
Speaker 3: And that happened in Oklahoma City, and it just apparently
Speaker 3: has happened again.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I forgot Oklahoma City. Obviously. Timothy McVeigh full
Speaker 2: remember of the military, he became some sort of a
Speaker 2: right wing extremist. And Nadal Hassan, by the way, who's
Speaker 2: still on death row for the ford Hood shooting, and
Speaker 2: he was not one of the federal death row inmates
Speaker 2: who were who were pardoned by President Ford rather President
Speaker 2: Biden a week or so. Yeah, what are you hearing about.
Speaker 2: I'm hearing a lot of chatter here about this might
Speaker 2: be a broader conspiracy that this might not be the
Speaker 2: traditional lone wolf. He had the IIS flag I guess,
Speaker 2: covered in with some sort of a jacket on the
Speaker 2: back of a car, but he was still flying the
Speaker 2: IIS flag. But there's some suggestion that they were IEDs
Speaker 2: planted around the city, and I believe that there's they're
Speaker 2: looking at, probably I guess his home where he lived,
Speaker 2: somewhere in Houston, in the Houston area. I know it's
Speaker 2: always tough to speculate here, but is your sense that
Speaker 2: there may be more to this than meets the eye.
Speaker 3: Well, the FBI has said definitively that there are more
Speaker 3: people that they are investigating on this. It's a wider
Speaker 3: conspiracy than just one person. So you have to take
Speaker 3: them at their ward. Although I will say that there's
Speaker 3: a lot of misinformation that occurs in the first twenty
Speaker 3: four hours of these incidents, so I think it's important
Speaker 3: to sort of hold you hold your opinions until we're
Speaker 3: certain that that they were in fact other bombs. You know,
Speaker 3: when we responded to the marathon, and I teach this
Speaker 3: to other police departments around the world, a lot of
Speaker 3: people who ran from the scene of the bombing dropped
Speaker 3: backpacks and bags and other things, and when we first
Speaker 3: got there, our bomb squad was already clearing each one
Speaker 3: of those packages because it's a common terrorist tactic to
Speaker 3: leave follow up devices. We must have had dozens of
Speaker 3: reports of bombs that day and they all turned out
Speaker 3: to be false. So it does take a while to
Speaker 3: sort out the the you know, the the chaos from
Speaker 3: from from what the real facts are. But we are
Speaker 3: hearing that there were two other devices, and if he
Speaker 3: had those planted by someone, then clearly there's a conspiracy
Speaker 3: and that's extremely troubling.
Speaker 2: Well, it will take some time to figure it out,
Speaker 2: but and I appreciate you coming on and on short
Speaker 2: notice tonight, but I just felt this was something that
Speaker 2: we that we really did need to talk about. So
Speaker 2: we may be back to you later on during the week,
Speaker 2: and let's hope that they can get to the bottom
Speaker 2: of this and figure out I woke up this morning
Speaker 2: and was they flipped on WBZ and heard everything went
Speaker 2: fine in Boston last night, but I realized very quickly
Speaker 2: that it didn't go fine in New Orleans. Thanks so
Speaker 2: much for joining us tonight, Ed Davis, former Boston Police commissioner. Again,
Speaker 2: the name of your company now that you need the business,
Speaker 2: it's it's Davis and Company.
Speaker 4: Is that the name again, Davis Company?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but thank thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Dan.
Speaker 3: It's always great to talk to you, and I can
Speaker 3: I took your listeners again.
Speaker 2: Thanks very much, Ed Davis.
Speaker 3: All right, sure, thanks.
Speaker 2: Thanks. Happy New Year. It is not a happy New
Speaker 2: Year in large parts of this country as a result
Speaker 2: of this, and so I have kind of reworked our
Speaker 2: schedule tonight, and I would like to talk about this
Speaker 2: because it is the it's the new story of the day.
Speaker 2: So I have some thoughts, but I'm interested in your
Speaker 2: thoughts as well. Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty,
Speaker 2: triple eight nine to nine ten thirty or six one seven,
Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. What was your reaction tonight
Speaker 2: this morning when you woke up and you realized terrorism.
Speaker 2: It looks as if a brand of a international terrorism
Speaker 2: with a with from a homegrown terrorist has once again
Speaker 2: impacted the lives of many families around this country this evening,
Speaker 2: this New Year's Day, a horribled way to start off
Speaker 2: New Year's We'll get to phone calls and we'll talk
Speaker 2: about this for a while, because I think it's something
Speaker 2: that people need to need to vent about. We'll be
Speaker 2: back on night Side right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Place Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: So I do want to hear from all of you,
Speaker 2: but I just want to very quickly try to hit
Speaker 2: upon some of the implications here that I see. One one,
Speaker 2: the suspect who's now dead, shamsud Din Jabbar, forty two.
Speaker 2: He's a US citizen. I guess he was born in Texas.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything about his family's background. But again
Speaker 2: according to the Associated Press, h that I'm that I'm
Speaker 2: relying upon, uh he had he drive drove his pickup
Speaker 2: truck into a crowd of New Year's revelers in on
Speaker 2: Bourbon Street. Was around three point fifteen this morning on Wednesday, morning.
Speaker 2: Initially I thought, Okay, this guy probably was drinking all night,
Speaker 2: finally summoned the courage early today to do this. But
Speaker 2: now it looks a little different to me. It looks
Speaker 2: to me like he might have picked three fifty deen
Speaker 2: in the morning. Maybe maybe the crowds were thinned out
Speaker 2: a little bit. Maybe he felt that he could do
Speaker 2: the maximum damage to a crowd there was a little
Speaker 2: thinned out. Potentially, maybe he thought that there might have
Speaker 2: been a shift change with the police, might have caught
Speaker 2: people off guard that the night had transpired, the New
Speaker 2: Year's had been wrung in. I don't know it. Certainly
Speaker 2: he thought about it a lot more than initially was suggested.
Speaker 2: So consequence of all of this, the Sugar Bowl Bowl Game,
Speaker 2: the Sugar Bowl Game, which was to be played tonight
Speaker 2: at the Superdome in New Orleans, has been postponed till
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. That involves some you know, pretty important professional
Speaker 2: I should say, college football teams, both of which both
Speaker 2: teams have a lot of people who a fan base.
Speaker 2: We're beginning to get a little information on some of
Speaker 2: the victims of this horrific crime, and just it just
Speaker 2: shows how that terrorism he's not targeting a military installation,
Speaker 2: as Nadal Hassan was back in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2: He's going after Americans who are celebrating New Year's Eve.
Speaker 2: Amongst the victims that we know of at this point,
Speaker 2: and of course we will become familiar with all of
Speaker 2: their names over the next couple of days. A young
Speaker 2: eighteen year old woman, Nikira Didot aspiring to be a nurse.
Speaker 2: Thirty seven year old father of two, a guy named
Speaker 2: Reggie Hunter from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and one that caught
Speaker 2: my eye. A fellow whose name is getting a lot
Speaker 2: of publicity at this point. His name is Tiger Beck,
Speaker 2: former high school and college football player from Louisiana. He
Speaker 2: died Wednesday morning, according to the local media outlets. He
Speaker 2: played at Saint Thomas Moore Catholic High School in Lafayette, Louisiana.
Speaker 2: He attended high school there and then went on to
Speaker 2: play football at Princeton. Graduated from Princeton in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: He was working as an investment trader at a New
Speaker 2: York brokerage firm. His football coach said Wednesday he'd been
Speaker 2: texting with Tiger Beck's dad, sharing memories with the player
Speaker 2: who was a school kick returner and receiver from twenty
Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty nineteen. And he said he might be
Speaker 2: the first Tiger to ever play for Princeton, although of
Speaker 2: course they are the Tigers, and that nickname described him
Speaker 2: as a competitor. The school's nickname is the Tigers. He
Speaker 2: was somebody that somehow, like in the key moments, just excelledon.
Speaker 2: Was full of energy, full of life. His brother is
Speaker 2: a reportedly a top wide receiver in Texas Christian University.
Speaker 2: So probably at three point fifteen in the morning, there
Speaker 2: were very few people, you know, over the age of
Speaker 2: forty still out having a good time. And when we
Speaker 2: see the ultimate names, and hopefully it is no more
Speaker 2: than fifteen, although there were dozens of others injured, and
Speaker 2: they just upped the fatality count from ten to fifteen.
Speaker 2: Hopefully there will be no more than fifteen. But my
Speaker 2: fear is that is probably not true. All right, your
Speaker 2: thoughts are welcome. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty,
Speaker 2: six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty, triple eight
Speaker 2: nine to nine, ten thirty. I'll talk about this as
Speaker 2: long as you want. I think that not to ignore
Speaker 2: this tonight would have been an oversight. Uh, it's not
Speaker 2: the way I wanted to start the year. It's not
Speaker 2: the way you want to start the area that but
Speaker 2: please feel free to join me. I hope that they
Speaker 2: can catch every as Louisiana Senator John Kennedy said that
Speaker 2: they if there are co conspirators, there's anyone who supported him,
Speaker 2: embedded this crime, Let's catch him, Let's catch them all,
Speaker 2: and let's find out where this this group, if it
Speaker 2: was it was something more than a lone wolf, where
Speaker 2: this group came from, how they coalesced, and how far
Speaker 2: and how how far the tentacles of the group reached.
Speaker 2: That's not too much you ask. Our large forcement authorities
Speaker 2: are on it. Let's hope they do their best job possible.
Speaker 2: This is horrific. This is on the level in many
Speaker 2: respects of the Boston Marathon. This is New Orleans Boston Marathon.
Speaker 2: Back on Nightside, right after the news break, at the
Speaker 2: bottom of the hour, it's Nightside's news Radio. Well, we
Speaker 2: are talking about the terrorism attack in New Orleans. Not
Speaker 2: the way that I wanted to start the new year,
Speaker 2: not the way I'm sure any of you wanted to
Speaker 2: start the new year. But let's get to the call.
Speaker 2: Six one seven four ten thirty six one seven nine
Speaker 2: ten thirty. We'll start it off with Gene and Everett. Gene,
Speaker 2: I don't know what we can say about this, but
Speaker 2: i'd love to get your reaction to it.
Speaker 5: Okay, So here's the thing. First. First thing I wanted
Speaker 5: to mention is that NBC News and other news outlets
Speaker 5: have reported a little maybe dinner time, that the truck
Speaker 5: in New Orleans in the rental that was outside of
Speaker 5: the Trump Place in Las Vegas were both rented from
Speaker 5: the same company, which makes me suspicious. Anyway, I think.
Speaker 2: I think what I heard on that Gene, was that
Speaker 2: the same app was used to rent the truck. Now
Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure what that means, but this seems
Speaker 2: to be that connection there is here. But I gotta
Speaker 2: tell you, I'm a little skeptical of that, only because well,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I was I heard the same thing
Speaker 2: you said, uh, And I know that this this truck
Speaker 2: also had been reported crossing the border from Mexico at
Speaker 2: some point. So there'll be a lot of stuff that
Speaker 2: we'll get out there, but I don't know what it
Speaker 2: means until the investigators right, pull it, pull it together,
Speaker 2: you know, No.
Speaker 5: I understand, but that is that is a sign possibly,
Speaker 5: So that's one thing. The other thing is that the
Speaker 5: Tesla vehicle in Vegas near the Trump right out front
Speaker 5: actually looked like it was on the sidewalk yes building,
Speaker 5: which was weird. And and that they did find some
Speaker 5: kind of firework explosive like looking things in the vehicle,
Speaker 5: so they'll be able to get information from that, which
Speaker 5: is good. Whereas we also know over in uh, the
Speaker 5: the other I forgot where it was.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: The second well, the thing in New Orleans. The thing
Speaker 2: that that that strikes me on that is that the
Speaker 2: thing in New Orleans was obviously intended to maximize the damage,
Speaker 2: the damage the death toll, right. And they were driving
Speaker 2: down Bourbon Street at three o'clock in the morning, and
Speaker 2: anyone's ever been on Bourbon Street and I have people
Speaker 2: are there at all hours of the night. It's open
Speaker 2: entertainment district. And it seems to me that if we
Speaker 2: it may have some sort of link to the Tesla
Speaker 2: and Trump and in the Trump Hotel or whatever. However,
Speaker 2: it would seem to me that if you were planning
Speaker 2: to to conduct a terrorist attack, that was going to
Speaker 2: the gravity of which was going to kill potentially, you know,
Speaker 2: dozens of people. It's already fifteen and injured dozens. Would
Speaker 2: you want to also be at the same time messing
Speaker 2: around blowing up at Tesla in front of Trump's a
Speaker 2: Trump Well property, I don't know.
Speaker 5: Well, I'll answer that, But the thing is I feel
Speaker 5: that I feel there's there's more of them out there.
Speaker 5: I feel like there might be some more things happening.
Speaker 5: I really do, and don't forget.
Speaker 2: The authorities would agree with you.
Speaker 5: I think planted devices Yep.
Speaker 2: Well they said that. I asked ed Davis about that
Speaker 2: by the way off air, and he's he said that
Speaker 2: oftentimes when something of this magnitude happens, they check security
Speaker 2: cameras and they'll see people acting suspiciously, and oftentimes when
Speaker 2: they go out and they approach these devices, whatever they
Speaker 2: might be, they don't want to take a risk, and
Speaker 2: so they will blow it up. So, if let's say
Speaker 2: someone I don't know, you know, was was drunk and
Speaker 2: they put their bag down on the on the on
Speaker 2: the street corner, uh, the authorities might say, we're not
Speaker 2: going to open that bag, We're just going to blow
Speaker 2: it up. And assume it's an I.
Speaker 4: D so well.
Speaker 2: As Ed said, let's let's see where the investigation lies.
Speaker 2: But you made some interesting points.
Speaker 5: And can I can I say one quick thing I feel,
Speaker 5: I feel what can help with this type of thing
Speaker 5: is I think that the Fedral government should have a
Speaker 5: regional training for all states and train them on what
Speaker 5: the city's need to do when they have any kind
Speaker 5: of events, and what they need to do when there's
Speaker 5: ever anything that looks strange like a tesla packed up
Speaker 5: on a sidewalk or whatever. Because these not all cities
Speaker 5: in town and not all states know what to do,
Speaker 5: and we need to all be doing the same thing.
Speaker 2: Well, certainly it's all all the big cities. I think
Speaker 2: there's three hundred and fifty one cities in towns in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of communities that are not going to
Speaker 2: be targeted. You know, they target big events, they target
Speaker 2: things like the Boston Marathon.
Speaker 5: But the target things like state New Years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, thanks, you appreciate yours always.
Speaker 5: Night you two.
Speaker 2: Good night. Let me go to Lewis in Quinsey. Lewis,
Speaker 2: you're next to the nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 4: How are you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm doing fine. Didn't didn't expect to start our night
Speaker 2: side year on this topic, but here we are.
Speaker 4: What's your take on I know I feel bad too,
Speaker 4: it's really bad. But in an indirect way, did you
Speaker 4: get me kind of passed away? What if? What if
Speaker 4: he had stood up to the shop all those years ago?
Speaker 4: Look at the problems that have come because of the
Speaker 4: Crenati and the fanatics. Lab you're doing which suicide Barber's
Speaker 4: which is a philosophy. What a mistake he made? What
Speaker 4: do you think about it? Look back forty years and
Speaker 4: it's hard to stop a suicide Barber?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well again with with Without going deep into the
Speaker 2: arrival of the Ayatola. You know, the Ayatola had been
Speaker 2: in exile for a long long time, and when the
Speaker 2: time was right, he flew. I believe it was from
Speaker 2: Paris uh to Tehran and at that point the Shah
Speaker 2: fled Uh and just as Asad's government collapsed a couple
Speaker 2: of weeks ago in Syria, Iran collapse. The government of Iran,
Speaker 2: the Shah's government. Basically, it was like a deck of cards,
Speaker 2: it just collapsed. So I don't know that Jimmy Carter
Speaker 2: could have done much. I think that there might have
Speaker 2: been a failure of our intelligence organizations in not realizing
Speaker 2: how fragile the Shah's government really was, and all it
Speaker 2: took was the arrival of the Ayatola to basically complete
Speaker 2: the revolution in Iran. And I think a lot of that.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of that, Lewis. If you recall
Speaker 2: back in the early seventies and into the mid seventies,
Speaker 2: we as a country, after what had gone on in
Speaker 2: Vietnam and what had gone on with the Frank Church
Speaker 2: Committee and with Watergate, we had kind of turned inwards
Speaker 2: and we had said, hey, let's just worry about America.
Speaker 2: And I think that it was more than Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 2: I think it's tough to place it at the desk
Speaker 2: of the press. I realized, as Harry Truman said, the
Speaker 2: buckstops here.
Speaker 4: But I think it was.
Speaker 2: Much more of a failure of our intelligence agencies to
Speaker 2: understand what was going on in Iran. We installed the Shajs,
Speaker 2: you know, back in the nineteen fifties, and because of that,
Speaker 2: it generated a lot of ill will towards us. But interesting,
Speaker 2: interesting to bring us back to that point, because ever
Speaker 2: since the Eyetola, the Eyetola Homini. He brought nothing but
Speaker 2: misery to the people of Iran, into the world, into
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 4: You know, maybe I'm just saying maybe I used to
Speaker 4: read books about what if? What if?
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm a big what if guy uh Lewis,
Speaker 2: and that is what if. Let's say any presidential election
Speaker 2: in your lifetime in my lifetime turned out differently. So
Speaker 2: let's just pick up let's let's let's pick uh an election.
Speaker 2: Let's assume that Jimmy Carter hadn't won and Gerald Ford
Speaker 2: was re elected. Uh, you probably never would have had
Speaker 2: Ronald Reagan, you know, I mean if that's funny. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: it's just if you look at this, I mean, if
Speaker 2: let's say Mike Decaccas had beaten George Bush uh nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty eight, Uh, there would have been no Bill Clinton
Speaker 2: presidency because I think that.
Speaker 4: By Goldwater, Well.
Speaker 2: If Goldwater had been elected, uh, you know, Goldwater was
Speaker 2: a Republican, he was a long shot Republican. He then
Speaker 2: would have been challenged in sixty eight. There would have
Speaker 2: been no Richard Nixon because Goldwater would have been president
Speaker 2: until sixty eight and Richard Nixon would have aged out.
Speaker 2: I think as a potential president. So yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: What if game too, Lewis? I I we we could,
Speaker 2: we could compare notes.
Speaker 4: Somenight, Okay, happy to do your dad.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Lewis, appreciate you call. Thank you much.
Speaker 2: Let me go. Well, you got to take a break.
Speaker 2: I got a couple of open lines six one, seven, two, four,
Speaker 2: ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 2: I'd like to talk about this. It's again not my
Speaker 2: choice this morning, but it is becoming a bigger story.
Speaker 2: The death toll has increased from ten to fifteen, and
Speaker 2: now it appears that this is maybe maybe more than
Speaker 2: the action of a lone wolf. How do we deal
Speaker 2: with this? How do we deal with it? I think
Speaker 2: that with the change of administration in January later this month,
Speaker 2: now what twenty days from now? I think that if
Speaker 2: I were Nadal Hussein Nissan Nadal, the major major major Nadal,
Speaker 2: sitting on death row, I would think that this is
Speaker 2: not going to help me survive the arrival of the
Speaker 2: Trumpet presidency. I suspect that some of the people that
Speaker 2: Joe Biden left on death row, once their repeals are out,
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Speaker 1: Right after this, Now back to Dan Ray line from
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Speaker 2: I'm back to the calls. Go, let's go to John
Speaker 2: and act and John, your reaction to this tragedy, tragic
Speaker 2: terrorist attack in New Orleans.
Speaker 6: Oh, it's a mess. It's a mess. So I'm calling.
Speaker 6: And it was just coincidence that when I got ready
Speaker 6: to call, you already had somebody on. You were talking
Speaker 6: about the rent share company. So I think this is interesting.
Speaker 6: I don't have any reason necessarily to believe that the
Speaker 6: two incidents in Las Vegas and New Orleans are related,
Speaker 6: but the rent share is an interesting aspect. And I've
Speaker 6: used one of the big rent share companies, Turo, three times,
Speaker 6: once in Charleston, once in Minneapolis, and once in Southampton, England. Okay,
Speaker 6: and do you know how they work, because it's kind
Speaker 6: of interesting.
Speaker 2: I do not, and I very much appreciate your calling
Speaker 2: and I hope you'll explain it to me in my
Speaker 2: audience because I am unfamiliar with this.
Speaker 6: Okay, So it's it's it's sort of like Uber, and
Speaker 6: so it's it's rent sharing. Let's assume I have an
Speaker 6: extra car, okay, I Uh, so I sign up with
Speaker 6: with a rent share company and offer my car at
Speaker 6: whatever price I choose. And uh people, you know, the
Speaker 6: users go online and they look for a car that
Speaker 6: of the kind that they want. The reason I've used
Speaker 6: it is I drive a Tesla and I and that's
Speaker 6: a and that's one easy way to be sure you
Speaker 6: get to rent a Tesla only.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question. How many rent
Speaker 2: share I mean, there's a zillion in airbnbs, okay, so
Speaker 2: how many you know? Well known rent share company you mentioned?
Speaker 2: The name of this one was Curo qu.
Speaker 6: I r O heiro t U r O. That's the
Speaker 6: only rent share company I know of. And I don't
Speaker 6: know how many companies there are like Airbnb, you know,
Speaker 6: and everybody knows Uber and probably a lot of people
Speaker 6: know Lyft. I don't know how many other companies they
Speaker 6: are are. Beyond that. Turo is the one that I've used.
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's the one that was used
Speaker 6: in this case. I haven't heard the name, and I
Speaker 6: don't know how many there are. But again, like Uber okay,
Speaker 6: there are thousands and thousands of independent people okay who
Speaker 6: offer their cars for rent through Turo, just like Uber
Speaker 6: has thousands and thousands of drivers. So the cars don't
Speaker 6: belong to Tiro. The people don't work for Tiro. They
Speaker 6: just like Airbnb okay, list their cars for as available,
Speaker 6: and you sign up to rent the car, and you know,
Speaker 6: you provide your driver's license, and you rent the car.
Speaker 6: And here's the key thing that makes me realize that
Speaker 6: these are idea that better than that, This is better
Speaker 6: than hurts for a terrorist or anybody going to do
Speaker 6: any any crime, whether it's terror or or any crime
Speaker 6: that invalls a vehicle. You don't go somewhere, you know,
Speaker 6: like you don't go to an agency to get the car.
Speaker 6: They tell you an address that the car will be at,
Speaker 6: which which may be where the person who owns it lives,
Speaker 6: or it just may be a place where he likes
Speaker 6: to keep it parked.
Speaker 2: And you drive, I'm on the I'm on the site
Speaker 2: now to a row to U R O Uh. And
Speaker 2: so the caller, I think it was Gene from Everett,
Speaker 2: was suggesting that there was potentially a connection between the
Speaker 2: fact that what happened in Las Vegas with the Tesla
Speaker 2: blowing up or whatever catching fire, Uh, and the horrific
Speaker 2: events in New Orleans, that that might link them. I
Speaker 2: think what you're telling me is that's not likely going
Speaker 2: to link them. It just is that. That's that's two,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it probably do you probably see it
Speaker 2: as no no connection at all. Did he lose him?
Speaker 2: Did we lose him? John? If you call back, we'll
Speaker 2: pick you up on the other line on the other
Speaker 2: other side. Okay, of the of the nine o'clock news,
Speaker 2: call us back, John. I wanted to get your answer
Speaker 2: to that question. Patrick is in Washington, d C. Patrick
Speaker 2: next on Nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 7: I'm very sorry for all the news here. I wanted
Speaker 7: to be able to welcome you back under different circumstances
Speaker 7: and thank you. They had a load to do and
Speaker 7: cheer everybody on. This is not our favorite subject. Yes,
Speaker 7: I do want to hear what that gentleman has to say.
Speaker 7: So I knew who he calls back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was I think what he was saying, was
Speaker 2: that that it's fairly common. John is called back. Hold on,
Speaker 2: stay right there, Patrick, I will come back to you
Speaker 2: in one second. John, We lost you there for a second.
Speaker 2: I was asking you the question. It sounds to me
Speaker 2: like you're saying that this is probably nothing more than
Speaker 2: a coincidence because a lot of people are using this
Speaker 2: particular app. Now, is that what the.
Speaker 6: New incidents are Possibly nothing more than a coincidence. But
Speaker 6: the app is ideal because you don't actually necessarily even
Speaker 6: meet the person. You could come up with fake identification
Speaker 6: and rent the car and show up and get the
Speaker 6: car and nobody sees you and you're not tracked. And
Speaker 6: this is another thing that I think is important. Okay,
Speaker 6: so the government isn't going to have a list of
Speaker 6: all license plates that belong to rental cars. Nothing identifies
Speaker 6: the car as a rental car, either on the car
Speaker 6: or through its license plate, or through some sort of
Speaker 6: sticker on the window. There's it just looks like a
Speaker 6: completely private car.
Speaker 2: So what's conceivable, what you're telling me is that the
Speaker 2: guy that you know basically effectuated all of the carnage
Speaker 2: on Bourbon Street last night could have picked this car
Speaker 2: up from some person in Houston, Texas who's he never met,
Speaker 2: never seen before. And and maybe that's why they're looking
Speaker 2: at an address in Houston. It may have nothing to
Speaker 2: do that must just be some person who rented their truck.
Speaker 6: U know that the address in Houston has nothing to
Speaker 6: do with it, but they're they're probably looking to see
Speaker 6: if they have cameras so they can see if it
Speaker 6: was the same person that they killed who picked up
Speaker 6: the car.
Speaker 2: M interesting. Okay, John, really good call. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Thank you caller of the night so far. Thanks John.
Speaker 2: I appreciate call more often. Okay, thanks, bye bye. All right,
Speaker 2: let me get back to Patrick. Patrick, we only got
Speaker 2: about a minute left here. I can hold you over
Speaker 2: if you want to be held over, well.
Speaker 7: I would like to do that because I'd like to
Speaker 7: talk with you on this and I'm gonna move quickly
Speaker 7: once we get into the after the hours.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Just I thought that that John's call and the
Speaker 2: fact that he called back is interesting. He's basically making
Speaker 2: the case that what a great way for somebody. You know,
Speaker 2: you you rent your your third car, you rent your
Speaker 2: regular car, and all of a sudden you look at
Speaker 2: television realize it's being driven down Bourbon Street by a terrorist. Interesting,
Speaker 2: interesting theory. I was up until a couple of minutes ago,
Speaker 2: I had never heard of Touro. So we'll talk with
Speaker 2: Patrick on the other side. Patrick, stay right there. Here
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