Speaker 1: We've been begging for a movie about Tony Fauci. You know,
he's the science it self. And the movie's out and
is extraordinarily well done. It is raw. Thing I love
about it is you follow the filmmakers along as they
researched the film, and the director joins us. Jenner first,
will do this with the help of renewed that Healthcare
and through the good graces of God Almighty.
Speaker 2: But Todd Herman Show is one hundred percent disapproved. But
big pharma technocrats in Tyrone's everywhere from the high mountains
of Free America. Here's the Emerald City exile, Todd Herman.
Speaker 1: Today is the day the Lord has made, and these
are the times through which God has decided we shall live.
Joining me from Los Angeles, California, the award winning director
of This Time Around. The movie is called Thank You,
Doctor Fauci. Jenner First, welcome to the Todd Hermit Show.
It's good to have you here, Jenner.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. Todd excited to
talk about the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's an exciting film. And just let me start.
I said this, you know when we were talking in
the green room, the virtual green room number one. Thank
you for being the guy who made the film no
one else was willing to get through standards and practices
and lawyers, et cetera and being brave. Thank you for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was It was a journey. I don't think
I am the same as I was before I started,
but I don't regret it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what caused you to want to make this movie?
And I don't mean that in the pr rip and terror,
you know, QA, I genuinely want to know why did
you want to do this?
Speaker 3: Well, at this point in my career, I get solicited
a lot. I get a lot of emails for films.
I have agents, lawyers, people who bring things to me
because it's hard to pursue a film you see in
the headlines when you're in my industry, because at this point,
people just rip the headlines constantly. And I kind of
approached my career more like a Ouiji board and trust
the spirit, so to speak. And I was introduced to
two gentlemen, Lewis Fenton and Scott Saint John, who we
had a mutual contact with, and I was told that
they were looking for a director, one who had an
accomplished body of work, one who would be taken seriously
to genuinely and authentically investigate Anthony Fauci, and at first
I dismissed it. You have to understand I come from
a non political but progressive background, and I believe that
I had wilfully been complicit in a stream of information
that suited my sort of environment. Deeply cynical person. I've
made a lot of investigative documentaries. I've pulled back the
veil on some truly heinous things, given voice to the voiceless,
seen real crimes against people without their consent, and sought
justice for a lot of people. So I was open minded,
and when I left the call, I said, let me
look into this because it's ironic. At the beginning of
the pandemic, I had been attached to a film about
Anthony Fauci, but it was a totally different perspective. It
was one that celebrated his work bringing down the AIDS
pandemic in Africa during the Bush administration. So when I
left the call and I said I would genuinely poke
around and see if this was something I could take on.
I spent about three hours on the internet, only to
find that there were over one hundred thousand pages of
evidence that showed one of the largest cover ups in history,
and underneath that cover up probably one of the most
sinister and disturbing initiatives of the US government, of our
partners globally, and specifically a forty year history or more
of a man who claimed to be a figure in
public health, who was essentially jeopardizing the public's health. So
I was compelled, and I had Fauci's contact from the
last project. So it began this journey of investigation in
earnest and I brought in two colleagues, Lee Schweneger and Audicatorans,
who I had worked with before, who were fiercely independent
thinkers who wouldn't have been afraid of doing this with us,
And we began the journey, and it was something that
took a lot of reflection. My partner, Arnold Rifkin, has
been in this industry for forty years, at the top
of this industry, and knows what it is to be blacklisted.
He's seen some of his clients be blacklisted. He was
the president of William Morris Agency, and we consulted each
other on this, and we talked about the blowback, We
talked about the potential downside. But having lived through COVID
and having seen so many of our colleagues and so
many of our friends and family have dissenting opinions, which
now we were beginning to all feel the same way
that something horrible had happened. We agreed to do it,
and the rest is history, and the rest you see
in the movie.
Speaker 1: I love that you did in the movie give us
a view into you guys discovering things. I thought that
was very clever, and there's some raw moments where you
guys are literally responding to what you're learning, and that
really drives the movie at this this great pace, also
this intimacy, and it helped me relive some moments that
shocked me as a media guy. You'll remember the doctors
from Bakersfield who came out and did that press release
or that press conference, and hey, none of this makes
any sense. We've got this ninety eight point ninety nine
point eight seven percent survival rates, and you know, we
don't need to be shutting the hospitals down. The guy
sitting across from me you met earlier, Alex. My producers
spent the morning trying to chase those clips down because
they kept guessing disappeared. They disappeared from YouTube, they disappeared
from Facebook, Instagram. Finally we got it from bit shoots.
I mean, this is on live radio, Jenner, as we're
trying to pull these things down. As a media guy,
that fastened me and scared me as a tech guy.
When I grew to understand the PCR fraud, you turned
the PCR test up high enough the bottom of your
shoe test pot of positive for COVID people tested positive
with grapefruits. What was your peak COVID moment where you
began to question this as a progressive and it was
weird that those lines got drawn, But what was your
peak COVID moment where you thought, hey, maybe something's not
right here. I know you looked back and said I
was complicit, But what was that peak moment that you
looked back.
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting you ask. You know, for me, complicit
is still deeply cynical. I knew everything was wrong when
it was happening. By complicit, I mean that I had
willfully decided to ignore it. Because in the world we
live in, you make a decision what kind of information
you want to consume, and we live in a choose
your own adventure information economy. You can literally construct your
own reality based on the new news feed that you
choose to watch. And for me, I was complicit in
digesting the New York Times. I was not really interested
in being on social media during COVID. I had taken
the sabbatical in Arizona. I was in the desert. I'd
left New York City right in early March of twenty twenty.
I basically barely escaped the shutdown, and I felt very fortunate.
And I was also working a lot, because in the
beginning of COVID there was a boon and content, and
I was working on a lot of documentaries, some of
which became huge documentaries like Lula rich and Murdoch murders
and things like this that were trend to very highlight
on streamers. But for me, I believe that when I
really felt disturbed was when I realized the patterning and
that this was not just about COVID and I'm actually
getting chills now. There were some real peak disturbing moments
for me, realizing the connection of say Lime's disease, that
that's been basically a lab leak for the last i
guess now fifty plus years and that it was so
simple when you look at it and it's so patterned,
just like COVID, and that we're pinpointing something to Wuhan
and you know, we're pinpointing some something to line Connecticut,
when really the root is Rocky Mountain Fever and nowhere
near there. And there was an insect bioweapons lab right
off the coast of Connecticut called Plumb Island near montac
and it just was so odd. And then you look
at a bola and then you look, you know, further back.
And to me, the moment when I believe I had
a psychic break of sorts, when I really felt my
heart palpitating, was looking at the first major outbreak of
HIV and understanding that this too could have been the
product of scientific arrogance, and that beyond being the product
of scientific arrogance, this too was part of a pattern
of cover ups that even Anthony Fauci had his hands on.
And the same very scientists in the late nineties who
he tapped to write papers which were very non scientific
in nature, were just slamming a hypothesis that deserved real
serious consideration, that trying to cure one pandemic and trying
to race to get a vaccine for polio, had inadvertently
contaminated a bunch of trial doses of an oral polio
vaccine in Conchasa, And the first major outbreak of HIV
was in Conchasa two years after that trial in nineteen
fifty nine. And when I began to make those connections
and I began to see the effort to uncover that
and what happened to the people that uncovered that, it
had really hit me because I grew up in a
time when the AIDS pandemic claimed a lot of lives.
I know people who have died of HIV and AIDS,
and I know people who have that virus and who
live with the stigma of this virus. And I also
began to see how he didn't do anything to cure
that virus, and that you do the research, there's people
who really intended to cure that virus who have disappeared
off the face of the earth because we don't want
to cure viruses, We don't want to cure illness in
this country, as much as it flags us, as much
as it hurts our families. That's not the interest of
folks like Fauci and our pharmaceutical industry. They want perpetual
illness and unwell people to treat wherever and ever, because
that is a great product. Antibiotics don't even get any
good research because you use them once and they're done. No,
they want you on something that you're going to be
on for the rest of your life. And similarly, this
vaccine had no potential to stop the spread of COVID.
If anything, there were moments when the mRNA vaccine may
have made new variants in certain parts of the worlds.
You can't stop the spread of this virus. And to
this day you hear my voices nasally, I have a
little bit of a sore throat. I'm almost certain I
had COVID again, because the bottom line is that this
is a juiced up common cold with horrible, horrible fragments,
pieces of HIV, pieces of other viruses, things that could
pierce your brain barrier, okay, things that permanently disrupt your
autoimmune system, and that the vaccine itself did nothing more
than to amplify that. Now and a lot of people,
not everybody, but a lot of people are having major
complications and some have died. And I would say at
this point, A lot of people have died from that
vaccine and lived in a horrible quality of life. And
the reality is if people wanted to take that vaccine
because they had cancer where they were elderly, they deserve
the right to do that. But mandating and shutting down
the economy, all of the recommendations that were spearheaded by
Fauci while he was covering up one of the worst
public health disasters in history. Now, that is a disturbing story,
and I don't think I've ever been the same after
being inside of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was a brave thing for you to say,
being complicit men, choosing to ignore, choosing to look the
other way. There are a couple of things for me
and this I then I want to roll into some
of the specifics of the film. And by the way,
please go to angel dot com slash Hermon you can
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To Angel dot com slash Herman. A couple of things
that sit up for me. I'm a community college dropout,
you know, lucky mutts got into tech and startups and
so a grew to understand systems thinking. So when I
write about the design of these injections, and I said,
wait a minute, you're going to hijack people's genes and
have it produce a facsimile of the spike protein, which
is cytotoxic to the human body. This isn't going to
derange people's immune systems. This can't end well. I'm a
community college drop out looking at this, going this is
going to hurt people, And doctors didn't come along and
say this. But the thing that really got me was
then the nanolipid particle that the injections are wrapped in
causes it to go everywhere in the body. And yet
I had doctors on TV and radio and going in
on my show claiming this stuff stayed at the side
of the injection. Okay, technically maybe true, but it hijacks
your genes. And now you have forty t only inspike proteins.
That was to me a massive medical lie. Massive, And
you went and confronted you started with origins. A couple
things came out of your film. I'd never considered a
lot did Actually I've studied this. A couple guys may
well have been spies. People with NGOs who Fauci laundered
money through isn't supposed to work with Wuhan, So he
stopped directly funding Wuhan. He did the money laundering bits,
and do I understand directly, but this idea that some
of these guys were spying on the Chinese Communist Party
and maybe turning around and double spying on us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and guess what, that's not unique at all? Oh good,
those communities that exist on planet Earth. And this is
a this is really the real where the rubber meets
the road. You know, when we read the names, we
think nuclear weapons are the biggest threat. Bioweapons are the
biggest threat. And bioweapons are the biggest threat not because
they can kill far more people than nuclear weapons, which
they can, and not because they can be made in
a high school chemistry classroom, which they can. It's because
they have the power to control, subvert, and by design
change society without anyone knowing that it happened. And if
you look back at COVID, that's exactly what happened. You
and I live in a digital space now where we
prefer to be on screens. We're isolated, we spend less
time together. Many of our businesses and economies have shifted,
A lot of people were left behind. There was arguably
the largest transfer of wealth ever in modern history, and
an election was swayed and products generated hundreds of billions
of dollars that were completely dysfunctional and had no purpose.
We were able to roll out technology that would have
never been approved to roll out without a disaster. And
you ask yourself, well, this thing only kills so few people,
how did this happen? Well, could you think of anything
more powerful and useful as a tool? Viruses that are
in research now that people that kill twenty or thirty's
it's frightening.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And there was a bunch of free work. And
I know you know this. There was a Harvard study.
I think they got forty five million dollars to do.
It was a six groups of personas on how to
con people into the injections fear of loss, full of
fear of social ostracization, opportunity for gain, hero worship. Really
fascinating stuff that Harvard participated in. So when you began
making the movie, there's a couple of things that stand
up for me. Was you talked to a scientist who
casually dressed Guidman, I blanket his name, but he said
about Fauci and he studied his career. He said, there's
a word we don't like to use in the scientific community.
He called it the F word.
Speaker 3: What did he mean, broad And you're talking about Neil
Harrison was one of my great resources because he had
a gimlet eye about a community that he's been part
of his entire adult life, you know, the scientific research community, academia,
people who thrive and survive and depend upon grants that
Fauci would sign and others would sign to the US government.
I think that scientific fraud by nature goes against the
very spirit of science, because if you are someone who
believes in science, contrary to those who believe that science
is separate from, say, religion or faith, science is in
itself a religion and faith, and that you believe in
the facts, and that you must be brave enough to
present the facts as they are objectively, with no opinion
other than those driven by the facts. And when people
commit fraud within science, it violates the very spirit of science.
And this is what happened year after year after with
a demigod bureaucrat who was running science in a very
controlling way that served the government and not the facts
or the data.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's this this man. There's so many aspects
to the perverse incentives he installed as part of that fraud.
I marvel at the fact. And forgive me, I know
you come from a progressive background, but one of the
things I marveled at was how quickly in my family,
I'm the only conservative, I'm the only Christian in my
family on my side of the family. And and watching
progressive suddenly feel forced to defend pharma and things like
the CDC scientists taking a raak on ip of pharmaceutical companies,
the FDA getting forty percent of its funding through pharma,
And I'm looking at this and saying, wait a minute,
you guys were right about pharmat now you're going to
be wrong. There was a massive media push on this
that was so so, so effective on people. And you're
a media guy. I mean, you're more of a media
guy than I am. How complicit do you think the
mainstream media was in this to push this.
Speaker 3: Stud They were completely bought out.
Speaker 1: Okay, you think money.
Speaker 3: I mean I think that others have exposed for a
couple of years now and it's become more apparent. I mean,
this is something that RFK has been saying for a while,
is that you can't dismantle the system until you make
advertising pharmaceutical products illegal in the United States. If you
look at tobacco products, you know you can't advertise them
the same way that you could before all of that
big scandalous stuff happened. Well, let's dissect what's actually happening
with pharmaceutical companies. And it's not just pharmaceutical companies. Sometimes
it's foreign governments, it's it's anyone who intends to have
a power lobby. The way you do it is you
get every single media outlet that sells advertising drunk off
your money and you buy massive amounts of inventory even
though you have no intent to sell the products you're advertising.
Let's think about it. Do we really go and buy
that new psoriasis med that we see advertised late at night?
Do we buy that new bizarrely named product that has
ten million disclosures in the commercial? No, we don't buy that.
What's actually happening is that station is making tens of
millions of dollars a quarter off those advertisements. And when
that station or that publication or the New York Times,
or whoever decides to write a story. That story is
faced with a problem, and upper leadership quickly learns that
they're going to pill their ads if something is not
changed about that story. And that's why we can't trust
any thing about the media. And sadly, I hate to
say it, you also can't trust anything about what you're
seeing on social media. You can't trust any of it.
You have to use a gimlet eye and you have
to use your own human instinct to determine what you
think is fact or not. And I will just say this,
how convenient is it that we now live in very controlled,
rametically sealed environments around our own personal realities. We live
on screens. We don't go out in our community. We're
not willing to talk to other people, we don't socialize.
This is what the pandemic did. And how do you
have the most control of people? Put them in that environment.
Because we're human beings and where we thrive is in
community and human to human contact. You take away human
to human contact, you are now in a position of
ultimate social control. So take a zoom out and look
at what happened there.
Speaker 1: Oh well, said, and the churning of people against one another.
This was This is one of the more phenomenal things
I experienced because I was living in Seattle part of
that time over and doing the show there and doing
national radio from there and living in North Idaho, completely
different experiences. They succeeded in these putting people in these
info cells, and people then only got the info they knew,
and they could be completely blind to things. And man
watching people get beaten up in Seattle before they're not
wearing a mask. I got escorted out of a mall
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future results Truck twenty five Dash three three eight. Fauci
engineered all this. And what was astonishing to me about this,
and you show a bit of this in the film,
is the teflon nature of the fouch. Remember that infamous
scene in the baseball game where he mask on, mask off,
and there was even the talk of triple masking. He
got away with all that, but you came up with
I think in the movie one of the most teflon
natures of Fauci is he actually responded to an email
from you because I was rooting for you. Like dude
has Fauci's email. First email, doesn't respond. Second email, he
writes back, No, your proposal seems interesting to me. You know,
maybe we can put it heads down on my book.
And I am science itself, very busy being science. And
he didn't, you know, he didn't agree to come on.
You wrote back a little bit later after you discovered
some things and I can't remember if this is when
you went back to d C and you were with
I think it was Jamie Rafker, the one of the
congressmen you were with that you confronted. You wrote him
again and you got a response, not quite from an
admin because admins don't charge two thousand dollars an hour.
But talk about that response you got the third time
you tried to get Fouchi to come on the film.
Speaker 3: Well, the second I said, you know, I understand you're busy,
but I'm mostly concerned with the idea of bioweapons research
and gain a funtal research and potential intelligence tie ins,
and it's a murky space and I'd like your input
on it. I think that's when Robert Barnett, an attorney
who coincidentally has worked for three recent presidents of the
United States and many other power brokers in the world,
stepped in to field the request. And it was signaling
that I'm very familiar with. It was a tread carefully
and I need to make sure that my counsel is
looped in on this so that they are aware of
the threat. But this is not new to Fauci. He's
been forged by extreme conflict because it wasn't something he
was afraid of. And I think he wasn't afraid of
it because he was anointed starting in the Reagan administration.
When you do a favor for a president and for
eight years, you don't mention a pandemic that's killing a
lot of people, and you allow that pandemic, which was
the AIDS pandemic, to spread amongst poor communities, communities of color,
and homosexual communities who are easily demonized by a voter base.
You do a favor for someone who remembers that favor,
and you instill yourself in a bureaucracy. In America, bureaucrats
end up becoming a lot more powerful than president themselves
because they don't need to be elected. And when someone
is elected, they're introduced to all the most powerful bureaucrats,
and those bureaucrats and many times are able to steer
presidents themselves. And I think that that's the story of
Anthony Fauci and that parallel with Oppenheimer. But if you
look back at Oppenheimer, the man had a real moral
conscious about what had happened, and he lived in a
lot of psychic pain about the idea of what he
had done, and it was a different time and will
never live in a time like that again, when good
and evil are so clear, and the fear of evil
conquering the world is so clear, because nowadays, the fear
of evil conquering the world is a manipulation, and that,
unfortunately is the truth, because we don't know the very
evil in front of us, because it's the very thing
convincing us that something else is evil. And I'm frightened
by that. I'm frightened by what you said as well.
I think the biggest takeaway the film is social division,
because the truth is is that we need to be
listening to each other. We need to be respecting each other.
Someone has a different, you know, belief than me. I
need to listen to them. I need to respect their
humanity and the light within them the same way I
need them to do the same for me and those
who I love. And if we lose that as a people,
and in fact, that it's very anti Christian. As you
speak to your faith, there's nothing in Jesus's words that
say we're supposed to vehemently hate one another or cast
them aside, or hurt them or shoot them or do
anything like that. So I think we live in a
perversion of right and wrong, and people like Fauci thrived
in that perversion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you brought up my faith and
the audience well knows. I'm an evangelical Christian and so
for me, I have optimism in this and that this
sounds very much like what the Bible told us is
going to happen. And I think they describe people like
Fauci and I don't think I don't. This is me
projecting my belief about Fauci through harm observation. I think
he's a psychopath and maybe a sociopath and a functional.
Speaker 3: One for sure, definitely one of the two.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, and there's there's a moment my audience knows, well,
this is another one to me that was just it
was it was wind sucking that that people in media
didn't see this for what it was. He was on
a morning show, television show and there would taken quessions
from an audience and hey, Kathy from Dallas, Texas says
her son got the first injection and he fell into
anaphylactic shock and had to get immediate er treatment. What
should he should do about the second shot. And I
remember Fauci, I remember this exact quote. Well, I would
wait until some of the effects of the anaphylectic shock
went went down, and definitely get the second booster first,
do no harm. That's a sociopath or a psychopath saying
those things. And I don't think. And this is the
thing about Fauci, I think he likes psychopathing. Now you
tell me you've you've did more research on Fauci than
maybe I did. And the film Angel dot com Sash Herman,
it's called Thank You, Doctor Fauci. I think he likes
psychopathy because I think he likes to display his power.
What he's doing. I am science itself, you know, Saidator Paul.
You know, with all due respect, you don't know what
you're talking about. I don't have to disclose to you
what the CDC earned in licensing. I think he gets
a kick out of psychopathing publicly and knowingly. Does that
make any sense?
Speaker 3: Well, I think that it's an evolution, and it's one
driven by the drunkenness that power provides people, okay, And
that once you have enough power, power corrupts absolute, power
corrupts absolutely. And I think that in the case of Fauci,
I kind of saw it a little bit more like
a Twilight Zone episode or a Black Mirror episode. That's
that's really what my overlay was is people can start
out with good intentions, but when the illusion of success, power, control, supremacy,
elite inclusion, the highest echelons of the field you sought
to be a part of, when those things are dangled
in front of you, all humans are tested and their
morality is put on the spot. And unfortunately it's part
of our nature to be seduced by things like this,
and some of us break the spell, and some of
us don't. I have trouble, I really do. I have
trouble looking at any human being as evil or you know,
anything that is that kind of label, because I believe
that evil is outside of our spirit, evil is something
that can seduce our spirit, and that we all have
inherently good qualities and potential to be good, and that
ultimately it's easier for me to look at people intoxicated
or sick with something truly sinister than them being the
cause itself. And I think that Fauci wouldn't exist if
he didn't serve a far greater evil and sinister body,
a body that's almost like a hydra. You can cut
off its arm and it'll grow a new one. You
can cut off its head and it'll grow a new
one and it doesn't die. And that is the type
of evil spirit, if we were to call it that way,
if we're to use that type of filter that seduces people.
And so it's easier for me to see his humanity
as someone who really lost his way, really lost his way,
and by the time he lays down on his deathbed
and goes to the other realm, he will have to
face all of the things that happened along the way,
and that will be a very painful journey for him.
So I have no choice but to see it that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we when we're being good Christians, I would view
Fauci as a psychopath who is a spiritual captive. And
Jesus Christ called on us to free the captives, and
so we have to pray for Fauci. My friend Tim
kruk Shank is the founder and CEO of Bone Frog Coffee.
He lost plenty of people on the battlefield. He was
a medic. He was there to save lives. Didn't always
work out and then he lost his wife a fifteen
year battle with cancer where Tim kept her alive for
about ten of those years because the doctors gave her
a very short time span and Tim refused to give up.
She got to see her daughters get into call and
she got to see things. She got to take one
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as you brought up AZT in the film, and I'm
assume you've read the book Fauci's First Fraud. Have you
read that?
Speaker 3: I read a lot of books about Fauci and talked
to a lot of people who wrote books about Fauci,
and so there's many, yeah, many that exposed many frauds
that happened AZT.
Speaker 1: There's a reference in your film to a drug so
poisonous it had to be taking off the market. The
guy who invented AZT refused to patent it because it
was so poisonous in all the trials. So I look
at AZT, I look at remdem Severe, and I say,
oh wow, that's interesting. There was one solution. Fauci had
this kit for how to treat people. It didn't work.
It added to the problem. And your film unveils the
fact that some of the same scientists were involved. As
you said, in sort of that two step as well. Hey,
here's a here's a paper written by scientists. It's not scientific,
but the media can quote it this way. They didn't
get pardons. Fauci got this very suspects preemptive pardon, which
is constitutionally, in fact, logically bizarre. Those guys don't have
they They didn't get any waivers, They didn't get Biden,
you know, signing any premptive pardons on them. Do you
think they'll ever see earthly justice in the courts in
our country? Do you think that farmers too big and
they're just going to get let go?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think to what we've been discussing
this whole time, if we were to put a spiritual
filter on it, the earth itself is a testing ground,
filled with pain and unjust things and choices, And if
we're to believe in a higher realm, they're suffering is
already happening now, whether the justice system has rendered it
or not. And I think that ultimately we have to
take that approach that we can't trust our systems to
correct the very thing that our system encourages and rewards.
It doesn't make sense. So either we're going to make
space for people to be broken, sinister, lying, torturing, evilly
inspired captives, or you know, we're going to believe that
the very system that is going to police them. And
I think the only anecdote to that condition or that
problem in the world is connection. And what fuels it
is isolation. So if we're did, if we're connected to
one another and we're actually relating to each other across
all bounds and beliefs, and we're doing so with empathy,
and we're doing it in a way that seeks to
understand one another, that is the ultimate protection for those
who are committing these types of information crimes, you know,
war crimes, really is because we're connected. And that's how
we dismantle power systems that seek to oppress us is
through the body of our collective spirit. And I think
that this is exactly what happened with COVID is it
sought to divide that and set a line, you know,
between us, and that's when products and pharmaceutical products and
tech products and all sorts of things thrive in that environment.
And what actually is depraved and hurt and broken is
the very thing that we seek, which is connection. So
we have to remember that.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. As we close out here, I
wanted to take you up on something you talked about.
Coming from a progressive background, and it's important that we
be able to respect one another and and hear one another.
And I would, if I had the money to play with,
I would come to you with the proposal to go
investigate the gender what I would refer to as gender
madness against children. I don't mind if an adult wants
to go get plastic surgery and wrong sex hormones. I
do mind being told to pretend that I believe a
man is a woman. I am dead set against what
I've discovered about what pharma has done to families and kids,
because I see the same pipeline you know. Little girl
comes in, she's twelve, she thinks she's a The people
at children's hospital set the parents down and say, here's
the deal. You could either have a living son or
a dead daughter, and you have to decide that right now,
and talk therapy doesn't work and it's cruel. So let's
get her on shots, and let's get her on drugs
the rest of her life. And you have therapists now
suddenly taking a cut of estrogen and testosterone and surgeries
given a progressive background, do you see any I see
a straight line comparison between what farm has done to
families and kids and same sigh up in my mind
as they have carried out with COVID. Do you see
any similarity there?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: I think that again. I look at families that I
know that have effects of both sides of the conversation here,
that have children that are affected by this, that are
in school, and many of them are just trying the
things you talk about, because I have a cynical eye
about everything, including the influence of these companies that make
tons of money off this whole doctrine. But ultimately it
comes down to the same principle for me, and when
I say I'm a progressive, none of that is political.
I see information warfare everywhere, and I just seek to understand. Really,
I've actually had to redefine who I am.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I see things libertarian doctrine that makes sense to me.
I see things in progressive doctrine that makes sense to me.
But one thing is for sure. Anything we're seeing on
the media that's forcing us to have these conversations and
be viscerally affected by things happening outside of our community
is a manipulation because the only thing you can really
control is what's happening in your family, your school, your street.
Now you get to the city level, if you cannot
drive somewhere, this is not an issue that you have
any control over. And the idea that we've been fed
global news and national news is something to incite curiosity, desperation,
and fear and need to be agitated to say something.
We have to understand that that itself is a manipulation.
If you're worried about what's happening in Vermont, or what's
happening in Texas, or what's happening you don't live there, okay,
Or you're worried about California, or you're even worried about DC.
Guess what. You don't actually have the ability to affect that.
And you've been told that by consuming the information every
day that you're going to be better off. It's the opposite.
You need to go outside your house, walk your dog,
talk to your neighbor, go to your school, help out
go if you want to help people, help people, okay.
Helping people is not being a keyboard warrior. Helping people
is talking to them and being a part of their lives.
And you can't do that any further than you can drive.
You want to fly there, great, how often are you
going to fly there? You want to worry about something
so far away that it'll take you twelve hours to
fly there. You are being seduced with information that's not
your concern. And that's the real thing that I believe
needs to be understood by people when they watch the news.
Speaker 1: And I think, I what you say, I take very
very well because I spend my time volunteering with youth
when I'm not with my family, not at the gym,
not here of arts, volunteering with youth, and I hear
guys my age they want to carp about what they
read on Fox News or watch here on Newsmax, and
I will often say to them, what are you doing
with your sons and grandsons? And what are you doing
with your boys? Are your committed to get you there?
When we're talking fauci and pharma and the information we
do consume, we have the ability now to say to
a doctor like I've said to doctors. Doctor asked me, hey,
have you got your have you got your vaccines? I said,
which one they said, well COVID, and I said, how's
it work. How's it work? It's a dead part of
the virus and it gets into your body and helps
the build anybody, Oh, I thought it was a gene
sequencing device. He's the second doctor to look me in
the eye and say, well, since you knew that, why'd
you ask? And it's the second doctor I said, well,
since you knew that, why, July. So I have this.
I have the ability to now help my family and
friends understand these shots. So when I'm talking about the
so called transing of kids, I localize that because I
know fifty forty or fifty families who've had to flee
states like Oregon, Washington, California because their kids are about
to be medically kidnapped. And so I'm not pushing back
on your assertion that we should be out for us.
It's the body of Christ. As a Christian totally agree.
I'm just looking at it from info warrior perspective. When
the CDC came along and changed the definition of vaccine
like nine times during the COVID swindle, they also changed
the definition of talk therapy to conversion therapy, but for
only one thing. So I see it as information warfare.
I guess Jenner, that's that's that's how I see it.
Maybe we see that differently, and I just.
Speaker 3: Know I don't. I don't. I don't disagree with you
at all. I just think that information war warfare is
absolutely and totally part of every aspect of our life.
A supermarket, it's information warfare. You know, a sidelalk is
information warfare. And if you don't believe your social media
feed is information warfare. No matter what it is that
you follow, you're drunk by information warfare. So be cynical
of all of it. And if you can't be someone
who can take the crusade of information warfare to the
very community that you're in and have heartfelt conversations with
people you disagree with, then you're just complicit in the
system itself. That's what I took away. I need to
believe in the humanity of others, no matter what it
is that they are stock believing, because they're still human,
including those who are families doing the same things that
you see as a really problematic. Well, guess what. I
see that all over and I need to in the
spirit I'm not I don't believe in organized religion for
the very purpose that I think it generates fear in people.
And I think that Christ was in about the opposite
of fear. It was about ultimate love, for guin giveness
and the blessing of eternal life and forgiveness. And that's
the spiritual doctrine that exists in all enlightened thought around
the planet. And he was such a teacher and an archangel.
That's my personal belief. And when others tell me what
to believe, I'm cynical of it. And yet when tell
others tell me what's in their heart, and others tell
me why they choose to live a certain way because
of what it gives them, I am one hundred percent
empathetic to that. And that's where I think we all
need to be is find the light within each other,
because it's much more powerful than pointing out the darkness.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And Jesus also said, and follow all I've commanded, And
sometimes we concentrate on the forgiving and loving Jesus and
I join you in all that and forget that other part.
I forget it constantly, the huge log force of logs
in my own eye. Just one last question, because I
have a prediction and again the movie Angel dot com
slash Herman. It's thank you, doctor Fauci. Guys, we've been
begging for this movie for six or seven years and
it's here. Please go stream it immediately. I predict that
your email box has in it notes from people who
now are emailing you saying thank you, thank you for
revealing this, thank you for telling this story. I can't
speak publicly, but here's some information. Here's some things I know.
Like you had Robert Redfield in your movie. I'm torn
on him. He tried to tell some truth, but his
book out right now effectively says I wasn't allowed to
tell you these things. I beg to differ. I think
Robert Redfield is going to be okay with money. I
think he could have told us. Am I right? Is
your email box full of people saying I can't disclose,
I can't speak publicly. I'm using proton Thank you for
being brave. Did that happen?
Speaker 3: It did? And I think that it and it's very
rewarding to have those messages. And I have them all
over my inbox on every platform that I'm on. And
i'd also say that Robert Redfield I believe to be
an honest man, and he's also a Christian to your point,
and he is serious about that. And he even had
trouble saying bad things about Anthony Fauci because of his faith,
and he didn't believe it was right to say bad
things about anyone. So I think that ultimately writing a
book is like making a film. There's going to be
some flaws in it. I believe that where we are
now is so many things have happened since the movie
was wrapped up, and we're now being asked, can you
make another one? And we followed the Justice Police doing.
So what I would do to invite your listeners is
contact you if you want to support a sequel to this,
which follows all the information that has come out Todd,
We'd love to collaborate with you and your listenership on
making that happen. And that's something that you asked me
in the beginning, Hey, what's gonna happen here? Are you
making another one? And the answer is I'm considering it.
So if those who want to support it, make yourselves known,
there's a lot of information that the public deserves to know.
Speaker 1: Now, I love it, get with me. You can go
to the Todd Hermit Show dot com, or you can
go to and go to Angel dot com Slasherman and
join the guild. Listen Angel listens to this stuff. You
vote for more movies from Jenner on this topic, and
Angel will be knocking at the door to make sure
it gets good, solid distribution. It's been a pleasure talking
with you, big picture faith, hearing a bit of your
story about why you did this. The movie's great, I
can't recommend it enough. And information warfare powerful stuff. Thank
you very much Jenner for taking the time to be
here with us.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me Todd.
Speaker 1: It was true, absolutely my pleasure. This is the Todd
Herman Show. Please go, be well, be strong, be kind,
and do make every effort to walk in the light
of Christ.