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to pop off. Today we're talking about Gosh, Taylor. Clay
was talking about how he thinks airto Johnson's. I don't
know if he's a bad actor, but he kind of
put him in that category down today Discard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, today I missed that Clay said that.
Speaker 1: Tay. This sounds so sad today.
Speaker 2: I feel like Clay is always crapping on Aaron Taylor Johnson.
Speaker 1: He's got some hot takes recently. But yeah, we got
lots to talk about. So we're gonna quickly go through
this section because it has to do with a little
bit what we're talking about here. I guess I'll go
first because I want to save Taylor's what we've been watching,
because he is going to review Thunderbls because we're not
have an X one possibility in director the Thunderbols, name
change of Configgie Wall Street Journal, Report the Trailers. We
got Clay Face News, we got John Wake News. We
got a bunch of stuff to talk about tonight. But
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Speaker 3: Lots of good reviews also like and Or that we
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the final arc, dropping next week.
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Speaker 3: That we are reviewing. As well every Sunday. I know
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Speaker 1: This is how I was watching and or H Taylor
wanted to hear the orgasm he won. I apologize if
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Speaker 3: The Patreon too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the pretty chum producer tire you gotta be there
for a long year, you know where it's a letter
all this stuff now, But yeah, thank you very much.
But yeah, and Or has been great. Last has been great,
so uh all the good stuff coming up and uh yeah,
so as firsts we've been watched. I'll keep this relatively
quick size on uh cass last week with mister muss
so I talked a lot there. Uh and then I'll
see Tay's got the bigger one. But yeah, no I didn't.
I didn't watch too much because so I'm kind of
like last year, I watched less movies than I did
like the past three years. I feel like that might
be the case gain because I feel like I'm watching
a lot of TV. I just think I got a
lot of projects where like, if I'm editing, let's say,
some certain videos for the GV ten year, I don't
need to be so focused on a movie because like
it's just editing old content of us putting together stuff
like that. But I also don't want to watch something
that I'm heavily invested in, like I want to watch
for the first time. So I feel like that's where
I've need a TV show and a couple I guess
last month, maybe just last month, I needed that where
I was watching because I watched Dexter like I told
you guys, did the machete order of UH season one
to season five, episode one in the New Blood, and
then I watched All of You again. So I needed
a show like that where it's okay, I've seen this before,
I can tune in and out. So that's how I
stumbled back into Boy Meets World. I've not watched this
show in ages, Like this was a show for me
when I was a kid. Heavy rotation Showtaya. I was
watching the show all the time, but I've probably not
watched it, like, and I have all the seasons too,
like I own them, but I it's now a bit
more HD on the Disney Plus I watched there, like
I don't know if I've watched it start to finish
since I've been together with Emily and we're coming on
god like thirteen years now or something like that, so
it's been a while, and yeah, it's been a good time.
I even fell through the rabbit hole because the cast
is like a podcast where they watch each episode and
talk about it. I don't know if I'm gonna go
that way, but I just had found myself this week
like listening to most of the podcasts that I listened to,
So I don't know if we're gonna go that far,
but yeah, I heavily enjoyed that show. Did you watch
Boy Me's World back in the day? No, I didn't know,
probably a little bit before or yeah, a little bit
before your time, but yeah, that was a big touchstone
for me.
Speaker 3: So for my time, were born like almost the same year.
Speaker 1: No or not? Aren't you ninety five and I'm ninety.
Speaker 3: Three, I'm ninety four?
Speaker 1: Well, oh, it was a year before your time for
my time is a year before your time, so uh yeah,
I've been enjoying that. So it's just been a go
to like, oh, put this on, put this on? What else?
I don't think? I mean, And Emily just started to
get back into the Bear because season four is coming
back on June fifteenth, so we're halfway through season two,
so like, hey, we're gonna finally finish that off. Did
you ever watch a Simple Favor back in the day
and Kendrick Lively movie there's that sequel?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I did not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was a big fan of that original movie,
and when they announced they were doing a sequel, I
was like, oh, that's curious because I feel like we
thought it was before. There's some movies that you know,
it's not impossible. Some movies go I think this is
a good one and done. But you know, I really
it was a surprising movie, and I really like the
actresses in those roles, so it's like, Okay, whole cruise back,
whole cast is back. Let's give it a chance. So
another Simple Favor we watched the Last Friday, and oh boy,
it was I suppose brought it up because I made
it sound like it was probably close to my Woody
Woodpecker experience last year. It wasn't as bad as that,
but gee, it was. It was really it was tough
and it sucks that everything that's great about the first
one is bad in this one. It feels and this
movie is I think it's like seven years later after
the sequel, maybe six, I could be wrong. Actually got
them right here. Let's see, a simple Favor came out
twenty eighteen and this is twenty so yeah, it's seven years.
It just felt exactly like those comedies that come out
like a decade plus later and they don't have the
magic anymore, like a zoo Lander, like a wedding crash
or like an Anchorman what wedding Crashers probably would have been.
But yeah, it's it was really bad. It was. It
was tough for me and Emily to get there. We
had to stop and wait. So Sanju I was gonna say,
we will talk about X Men Layer, but we talked
about that like months ago because nothing new. Snyer reported
that he's been talking about that for a while. We'll
talk about X Men after this topic here, so don't worry,
it's coming. But yeah, we have talked about that before,
so somewhere in the archives. But yeah, i'd love Maurin
quality is Look at that. I got my rogue shirt
on right now, tear very nice. Yeah, just naked, no
shorts on. So yeah, that was really disappointing. Luckily I
wasn't excited for it, and it's not the worst thing ever.
The actors are still good, but just nothing giving there.
And yeah, it's just one of those where there's like
a reoccurring joke in the first one and then they
do that in the second one, but it's a spin
on that and it's just one of these like you
just this is all you had? Eh? So I watched that.
I've been I think no. I talked about last week
last that last week. I don't know what to say
on this one, but I'm gonna talk about it very quickly.
The Visitor no joking. Everyone, go look up everyone right now,
go watch The Visitor two twenty twenty four trailer. Me
and Taylor just did. And man, what a ride. I
watched magazine dreams. Do you remember what this movie is? Taylor?
We talked about a long time ago. Okay, so this
movie was before everything went down. It was Hey, this
guy's cast as Kang, and then he's had this movie
that a lot of people are saying he's gonna want
Oscar for That was I don't know if you remember John,
we talked about this either images there was a trailer
something where Jonathan Major was playing like a bodybuilder and
there's a lot of buzz around him. Do you kind
of like that's how familiar? Yeah? Yeah, they were like, oh, yeah,
this could be some good and then obviously everything happened
went away, and now it has come out. It was
just kind of like tucked away. I like, it's a
tough situation because like there's you know, subject artists from
art and everything like that or remove not sub jacks
that removed them. So I'm not gonna get full much
into it. I just will say that I definitely think
that he probably would have been contention for an Academy Ward.
And I really enjoyed the film and his performance is
of course a part of that very brutal film. What
I liked about it which sounds bad, but it's much
it's similar in the joker vein of there's almost times
where it's kind of like a similar of an origin
story of like what a villain would be. It is
interesting with some of his accusations and the things that
happened in the movie. You're like, oh, this is a
little too close to life here, you know, allegedly right,
but brutal movie about how people, how like people with
mental illness, can fall through the cracks, and also how
they had taken advantage of It was a really like
I gave it four point five out of five on
a letter box. I did really enjoy it. Obviously it's
a sore spot talk about. But I was just very
curious because it was like an Academy Award talk about movie,
but because all that happens, like, no, that's not gonna happen,
and uh yeah, I watched that and then we talked
about this a little bit in the discord today. I
watched Drop. You remember that movie?
Speaker 3: Uh yes, I remember that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you guys talked about trailer while I
was gone. It was fine. It was like, you remember
because Emily said this, you've watched Red Eye before, right
with killing Yeah, it's like a lesser version of that.
It's fine, And the plot's not beat for me that
it's just like a lesser version and instead of a
guy on a plane threatening her. It's someone on the phone,
you know, dropping her air messages. And there's some fun stuff.
There's actually really cool camera trick that I liked in
their tricks. I should say I was just sign between
tricks and trickery. So one way or another, they're doing
some cool stuff there. This is the first time have
you watched you watched nineteen twenty three? Right?
Speaker 3: Which one was that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's one with Harrison Ford
n Hill Marrin maybe.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I haven't haven't there. I haven't started it
yet in the Dutton family, yellows. So no, I've not
started that one yet.
Speaker 1: What's the other one?
Speaker 3: That's eighteen eighty eight?
Speaker 1: You watched that one? Right?
Speaker 2: Not yet?
Speaker 3: No, they're on my watch list. That one is, Oh,
why can't remember that one? No, nineteen twenty three is
the Harrison Ford one? This the eighteen eighty eight one is?
What is his name?
Speaker 1: Either? Well?
Speaker 3: Taylor searches that up, Sam Elliott.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense. There's a guy you'll get there eventually.
His name is Brendan Scalar, and a lot of people
have been fancasting as the DCU batman I've never seen
him in anything before, so I could never say him
four or against it. It felt like it's similar vibes
like Jensen Enkle where I'm like, like, I see what
people are going for. It looks very comic book acrip I,
Mike and Clay were much more harsher on him in
the discord than I was. I thought he was just
like fine, like bland is the way I would describe him.
But at the same time, it's a character that like
they're like, he's just the date on this that kind
of gets brought into a bad situation, like it's not
much to go off. And I've not seen nineteen twenty three.
I've not seen the Did you imagine ever watch that?
It ends with us movie, that Blake Lively movie that
create all those lawsuits and everything. Yeah, okay, so he's
the guy. I'm pretty sure he's the nice guy she
ends up with. He is like the beard, he is guy. Yeah,
do you did you watch it? Be like he could
be a batman.
Speaker 3: Let me put up a recent photo of him.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not on that camp right now. I
have lots of other picks I know. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
even acting wise, tho you think you'd be.
Speaker 3: Bad, I think act wise for sure. Yeah, you put
the cowl in the sky. He's he's the dark Knight.
Speaker 1: I'll say Drop didn't. Drop didn't convince me on that.
I can't remember my two picks because I had one
that was more likely. But then I know people think
I'm crazy. Actually, some people are with me. I'm I'm
pitching Sebastian Stan. So this pitching Sebastian Stan a lot recently,
as far as my pick for Batman, I have last
year convinced me of this two starring movies. So but
the movie are almost fine. It's like a I think
I gave it like a three point five out of
five because, like I said, some good camera shots. And
then I'm halfway, just over halfway through Freaky Tales. Remember
that movie that came out or earlier this year. It
was like Pedro Pascal, then Mendel Sinn. It's like a
multiple stories anthology horror thing.
Speaker 3: Oh I think I remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, pretty disappointed by this one so far. Now,
I will say that they do them in chapters, and
I'm literally on the last chapter. I just don't have
time to finish it. So I do think it's a
situation where multiple characters do pop up in the story,
so maybe the last chapter is gonna be so good
when it all comes together, I'll feel differently. But this
is it's not bad. There's one really cool camera I
did not think, like a pretty massive star like for
the past. I don't know, four or five decades. I
won't spoil it. I think his name is now on
the poster. They tried to sell it, so he only
has one SCENEBA was really cool. But yeah, definitely disappointed.
I like or I love the horror anthology genre. I
think just a fun genre because it's just a great
variation of mixed Are you searching up the posters? He
his name on there.
Speaker 3: For? Who?
Speaker 1: Never mind? You're fine, I just read you.
Speaker 3: No, I was.
Speaker 2: I was still looking up mister Batman.
Speaker 3: Here. He was in this movie called The Housemaid with
This comes out this year with Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Manda Seafreed and Sifred.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so yeah, No, that was a movie I
remember I talked about on a newscast from the trades.
I was very excited and it didn't really do it
for me. So yeah, that's just what I've been watching,
not too much. Few things here. There are a couple
other movies to cross off this year's list. But yeah, Tao,
what have you been watching? Other than obviously the Marvel
film you saw last week? We'll talk about that to
transition into our our main topic here, But yeah, what
else have you been watching?
Speaker 3: Yeah? What have we been watching? We'll have to get
back into the Bear. We're halfway through season three and
we took a bit of a break. So what was
I watching? Show Wise? Again, I don't think I've been
watching anything else aside from what we've been reviewing. A
little bit of Supernatural, but not not a lot.
Speaker 1: A lot like Jensen Ankles as Batman. Jensen Ankles, he's
one of the main guys in Supernatural. He's like the
blonde one. I know, there's.
Speaker 3: I could see that actually, yeah, I could see that actually,
But at this point I think the ship is sailed.
There's this other candidates i'd take, like Scalar. Scalar, I
watched National Treasure. That one is always just a gem.
We're just looking for a good, feel good kind of
movie and it's like, you know what this is just
you got a little bit of that zany knit cage
in there. But it's just it's an it's an awesome
thrill ride I got.
Speaker 1: Did you watch two?
Speaker 3: Uh not yet?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you a fan of them equally? Or
is one more superior than the other.
Speaker 3: I'd say one is more superior. Yeah, but I like too.
I think two is pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: It's a newdy meg.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have what does he?
Speaker 2: I have the Declaration of Independence.
Speaker 1: Don't be showing that on air. We're gonna get in trouble.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, that's right. My I went. My mom lives
further away, so I went to visit her, and she
just loves to give me thinks, like here's the stuffed
animal for your daughter. Oh, here's a couple of picture frames. Oh,
here's a like a kid's book. Here's a Christmas book.
Speaker 2: Then here's the Declaration of Independence. Uh so, it's pretty cool.
This is my claim to fame. I'm going to get
this mounted on the wall.
Speaker 3: Yeah somewhere.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so we popped out the.
Speaker 3: National Treasure and we watched it and that was it's
quite magical.
Speaker 1: Nice. We for continue because I forgot to s Pub's
put it in a comment. I didn't want to ignore
me since have you guys watched show poker Face, Ryan
Johnson intention leone season two to start. I haven't started yet.
By Love season one, Weekly murder mystery show, really fun
guests each episode. Natasha Leone is great. No, I've heard
lots of great things. I think it's on the list.
At some point, I think I'm just kind of waiting
to be in the mood, which sounds stupid because it's
like that's a TV show, but just there's just a
certain times. So yeah, no, I've not watched it, but
I've heard nothing but great things. So maybe at some
point down the line, Hey, you have watched poker Face.
Speaker 2: No, I'm looking it up now. Yeah, I recognize, Yeah,
I recognize the poster.
Speaker 1: I just get a glass like the Knives Out type
of feel. So maybe when the Third Knives outcomes on
and I want that, maybe i'll binge and stuff.
Speaker 3: So the only real experience I have with Natasha Leone
is in American Pie and Orange is New Black.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just American Pie for me. I've never never seen
Origin of New Black, and that's something we talk about. God,
who's the jock in American Pie? What's his name?
Speaker 3: Stiffler?
Speaker 2: No, No, I know you're talking about any So.
Speaker 1: The band girl, the sing girl he's with. That's something
funny when I've been watching boy Mes World, there's so
many people that are guest stars today when they're young.
Actor os Yeah, so not him, but the girl she
was in there is just like a fling for Corey Matthews.
It was crazy. Did you ever see Ten Things I
Hate About You? So the cat's little sister and like
the jerk jock she like is dating, kind of has
the long hair. They're both in there. Who else just
popped up recently too?
Speaker 3: Shit?
Speaker 1: Oh Brittany Murphy wasn't two episodes or yeah, Brittany Murphy,
she's one that passed away, right, I'm I wrong about that? Yes,
pretty snows and pitch perfect. Britney Perfey is on the past.
She was in the eight mins two thousand and nine,
so she was in there. Fuck there's another person. Oh
so Adam Scott he played two characters one episode he
was just a random extra where he was in a
band and he got Corey to hold his guitar, but
he went to the washroom and then like a season
later he came back as like a bully for like
an arc and stuff. So anyways, continue.
Speaker 2: Uh what else was there? And I know you know
you and me, we we've had talks about it.
Speaker 3: So I didn't put my review on my letterbox, even
though I listed the movie on there, Tron Legacy.
Speaker 2: I just really had an itch.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to watch it.
Speaker 1: I forgot we kind of might do a retro for that, yeah, which.
Speaker 3: I'm totally I'm game to do it. I'm game to
rewatch it because going back and getting into this, I thought, Wow,
there's a lot that I forgot, and I have a
lot lot of questions going into Aries now, and I
mean Legacy. Fuck. I really really enjoyed it. It was
It was a really awesome fun time. But I remember,
like the last time I watched it was years and
years and years ago, and after we were talking about
the Aries trailer and You're saying they should go back
and change the CGI face and well, I'm Jeff Bridges,
and I don't.
Speaker 1: You can't find a single clip of me saying they
should go back and change it.
Speaker 3: I remember that conversation because you should go back and
like fix it or do something. And when I put
the movie on, I was like, man, that did not age. Well,
everything else is great, George.
Speaker 1: You can't go back. You can't once it's out there.
It's out there.
Speaker 3: I didn't you know, But now that's not Disney Plus
just like upscale it or do something like that. That's
that's that's what they should do. But the movies, it's
it's a fantastic movie. Though, I really really really like it,
even though I'm hearing more and more than other people
didn't really Yeah, hearing that.
Speaker 1: It was the other way I thought it was. People
didn't really enjoy when it first came out, but then
it kind of got a cult following as went along
that that.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's what I meant to say.
Speaker 1: But you're hearing you made recently hearing that people don't
like it.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, I just for recently from what
I've been finding.
Speaker 2: Is what I'm trying to say, is what you just said.
Speaker 1: You're looking at reddit threads from fucking twenty eleven.
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta date check these these reddit threads.
Speaker 1: The drawn legacy read it. It's not popping off.
Speaker 3: And then, last but not least, last night, me and
my wife we whipped out the puzzle and put on
a movie. What we're puzzling. We watched Trap. This is
the second time I've seen it. I put it on
because I thought I thought she would I thought she
would enjoy it because it's it's it's it's a good movie.
I really really like it. It's it's a lot of fun.
And I think I can't remember his name, the actor,
but jo Josh Harnett is related to Bill Harnett. That
then the guy's name, Oh the fuck is Bill Harden
Oh no, that's the other one I agree with.
Speaker 1: I'm more in the jaw. People have pitched Josh Harnett
as being Batman. I like that pick a lot because
he was one of the people that met with Nolan
back in Day for Begins, and I guess he actually
had turned it down Harnett because he didn't want to
do that stuff. But if we're getting older Batman, Josh
Harnett's another one I'm completely on board with. Way more
than Scolar, way more than acles. Wait, there's another one
out there that people pitch. I just like, I don't
know my opinion. People got some bad fan cast for Batman,
you know.
Speaker 3: So, uh yeah, So there is a Bill Harnett who
was He acted in the Shadow Society twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're related. Don't you just pull that
name in your ass? What do you who do you
think Bill Harnett was? We think there's a.
Speaker 3: Possibility.
Speaker 1: And you thought Bill Haters last name was Harnette, but
it's actually just eight.
Speaker 2: I thought there was another Hearnette out there, but well,
guess what.
Speaker 1: They're not related, Bill Hayter and Bill Harnett.
Speaker 3: So yeah, other than that, what else I think? I
think that was it.
Speaker 2: I don't believe there was anything else that there was.
Speaker 3: I can't, I can't recall it. So I guess Revenge
of the Sith, but I think we already talked about that.
Speaker 1: But Will Arnett, because that's r N. There's Hornet, So
what I say?
Speaker 3: I said, I said Bill Harnett because I was detail.
You're absolutely spot on. I was thinking Arnet. And then
Bill also works as another name.
Speaker 2: For Will, like William Bill Turner.
Speaker 1: Like I can even be wrong that his name might
be Josh Heartnet instead of heart Net. I don't know,
never met the man.
Speaker 3: But there is a tea heart Net Heartnet. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there you go. But yeah, then transition into
tell Us in nonspoils so because in case you haven't
seen it, then you check out the four of you. Ousely,
it's just going into the second weekend. So what we're
gonna talk about here. We're gonna let talk about his
oral thoughts for Thunderbolts, We're gonna talk about the director
doing X Men, and then we are going to talk
about some of the marketing that could spoil some If
you've stayed off of social media and not seen the movie,
stay away because we'll be talking about some of that
if it was a good idea. So once we get
to after the X Men portion, maybe skip ahead like
you know, five tennis mits, or you can do all
these the cutouts and then we'll be back to regular show.
We're not spoiling stuff and just overall stuff. But Taylor,
what did you Obviously I saw your thoughts on letter box,
and I'm sure a few of our great fans did
as well. But in long form, what do you think
about Thunderbolts?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'll start off with the short form as
you mentioned there, and then break break into the the
end depth. I like the I liked the movie more
than I thought I would. Uh not all the humor.
Speaker 2: Was working for me.
Speaker 3: But but I'd say a fair bit of it was
actually really really driving with my funny bone.
Speaker 1: I really liked that moments or was it just a
character that didn't work for you humor?
Speaker 3: It was multiple moments, multiple moments, and multiple characters. They
they had a lot of really really good, good comedic
timing here.
Speaker 2: I really really like ghosts a lot in this.
Speaker 3: And then she got a lot of you know, not
like a huge, massive deep dive character art development or anything
like that, but I think we got our character flushed
out a little bit more, and I liked her being
part of the team.
Speaker 2: I really liked Red Guardian.
Speaker 3: And you remember you and me talking about this, like
him him being in the what if the animated version
not the same.
Speaker 2: But him being live action. I think that.
Speaker 3: It's it's just night and day difference. And I think
being able to actually see like the expressions on the
character's face and getting to actually see how they break
down these these scenes and do different things was just
it was hilarious. It was absolutely freaking funny. And I
think as well with how they brought Bucky in following
Captain America four, I guess, I guess following Captain America four, Yeah,
because even though you guess a little bit of a
sample of him in that in, that still counts him
being where he is now. And then kind of pushing
this new narrative with this character I really like. And
again the humor with this character when again getting the spoilers,
when he's they're trying to go rescue Bob and they're
all in like the dream world or whatever of like
their their past, their consciousness, their memories, and when they
all get into the same room with Bob in the attic,
he just he just casually just says, no, my past
is great. I didn't have any problems the fun of
all the people that would be the one guy you
wouldn't want to go and experience that past. But the
little attention to details when they all jumped through the
walls and came to Bob's room and behind when our
soldier it's like you can see it's the it's the
like the hydra room whatever from where his testing was
in Russia.
Speaker 1: I did say non spoilers, so be careful.
Speaker 2: Oh did you?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's not even the movie's not even out.
Speaker 3: For a while, I thought you said spoilers skipped ten minutes.
Oh my god, I know when we're.
Speaker 1: Talking about the marketing that they did in the new
posters and everything, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Can trump me sooner? I know.
Speaker 1: I just I spilled some beans loosely enough. It's fine.
Then Doctor Done came.
Speaker 3: Out and oh yeah fuck, okay, okay, yeah, non spoilers,
non spoilers.
Speaker 2: I think everyone just really brought their a game.
Speaker 3: I really really do. And I think that they had
a lot of surprises with Valentina and how they progressed
further and further. And there's one moment that I really
really laughed, and that is in relation to our chat
GPT episode with with Yolena and the dynamic with some
other characters. Think that that was really really funny, even
though that's not what they were insinuating. It's just they
were pushing development with another one of our characters attached
to this team. So I can respect that, can take
it for what it is. But when this movie wraps
up and you get to the ending, I was super
super stoked and pumped for what was to come next.
And I do wish that we had a little bit
more time with these characters, because yeah, I think that
there is still a lot more to explore with them
and their their capability of working together, and the dynamic
and the humor that's kind of involved with all of them.
I think they bounce off really really well with each other.
So I'm I'm excited but sad to see where it
goes because I don't this is not a spoiler. I
don't think a lot of them are going to survive
Avengers Doomsday. I really don't.
Speaker 1: Wow. So damn, that's that's sad here. But well, there
you go. So it's serious thoughts on thunderbolts. What did
you know? What would you give it?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: What did I give it?
Speaker 3: I gave it four and a half out of five
because I liked it a lot more than I was.
What is the equivalent of Oh, God, fer point five?
Speaker 1: Yould just know this, this is how your mind works.
You don't need the math to do this.
Speaker 3: Uh what would that be? Like a nine?
Speaker 1: Okay? I when I give a four point five to me,
that's like a nine or nine point five somewhere in there.
Speaker 3: Okay, And I'll take the nine. I'll take the nine.
Speaker 1: There's like a big jump of variations. It's like that
four stars, like an eight, eight point five, three and
a half seven seven point five three six. Yeah, you
can fretty figure out. It gets diceer when you get
to blow two point five, because those are much bigger
radiuses to cover.
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm trying to break for you from
the calculation.
Speaker 2: Where how does it go?
Speaker 3: You if I give something and it's inflated, obviously, if
I give something a nine, you divide by two add two.
That's what it was right back in the day. Yeah,
back in and you would get a scary accurate kind
of rating for a project.
Speaker 1: It would be yeah, because we didn't trust Haars high
reviews there. So but what I do trust is this
director for x Ben. But we're gonna take our first
ad break and then we'll be right back. All right,
we are back here, So yeah, we're gonna talk about
the name change for Thunderbolts coming up here in a
second or whatever the way they're marketing. But today it
was put out there by deadline and then a bunch
of the other sat Or Scooper is backed up, so
it looks like it's happening. Seems like Drake Schreier is
going to be directing X Men, the MCUs x Men. Also,
we don't have a date, But there's been lots of
previous rumors that this might not be as far away
as we think, which sounds funny because like they did
buy Fox so long ago. But I think the idea
was kind of like, oh you'll you'll get Doomsday and
CIA Wars and maybe it's a little bit like a
cool down period. But it sounds like this film could
be right off the top. It could be even the
first film we get in like the new Saga, which
is obviously just gonna be the Mutant Saga. But NOWDAYA
that you have talked about that, I guess I'll go
because you did just you know, it was your turn
to my turn. But so this this is interesting because
I think it was a couple months ago. It's before
I had left the podcast for a little bit there.
They announced the writer. I remember it's like Michael Leslie
or something like that. He really like the last Hunger
Games movie, and I thought that was that is fine,
Like it's like, okay, I got to deal with younger actors.
But then I don't know if they have something to
do with one another. There was a Scooper last week
that put out that all that might not be the
full script they're going with, which we'll talk about in
the DC world as well, but it might not be
the full script they're going with because I do agree
with Espos and other people where I think the people
that are also even if you can get one of them,
but should be including this are the writers of Thunderbolts
because they are the writers from Beef and I love Beef.
Beef was a fantastic show. Excited for second season. I
don't even know if they're writing the second season. I
think they are. But for me, this is like a
this is a really good pick because Ovissely is like
kind of a classic like MCU, Like it's kind of funny, right,
because I have it here the next four, like there's
more films that are rumor, but like all the next ones,
you got the Russo's directing Avengers and Sorry Avengers, Jusay
and Secret Wars. Right, that's a returning player Austin Ryan Coogler,
Cities come back to Black Panther three returning player, Fantastic
Four's Matt Shakman, who did want a Vision returning player,
a Spierman for Daniel Destin Credden returning player, And now
you got this we've talked. I think we talked about
this well, we're gonna tell about in the next episode
episode when we talk about Ken Fagge's Wall Street Journal
report of just you can see a lot of things
in general in media completely, but definitely with the MCU
that they're going back to basic and maybe back to
formula is the better expression. And I think just using
the tried and true people. I think this was a
because obviously Thunderbolts were talking about money wise, what it
made and what it could make in the second weekend
with some of their marketing they're doing right now. But
I think they wanted to see, like, hey, do people
like this, because you know, remember, before the Last Jedi
came out, Ryan Johnson had a trilogy of Star Wars
movies being ready to be made. Now, if you go
back in history and you sit down with Kathleen Kennedy
and you go, hey, just waiting ailli atter Last Jedi.
If that movie comes out and it gets that reception,
they probably don't announce that trilogy, right, But they were
just so confident before, so I think that's why we
got this kind of a weak after that. Hey, even
if it's not making Gangbusters like mucho money. People seem
to really like this, both critically and audience wise. I
think lots of people are surprised by it, So I
think that's one thing and hopefully this sticks right because
like to Daniel Dustin Craton, he was directing Avengers Secret
Wars or what was it King Dynasty at one point, right,
So this isn't set in stone. Things could always change.
But what I like about it because to me, x
Men is my favorite Marvel brand, you know, Wolverine's my
favorite Marvel character. I justill love the X Men in general.
I think I can see and some people I get it.
Maybe want to flash your choice, maybe want something different,
flash your choice. You weren't gonna get that. You're gonna
get people, especially now that work well in the Marvel
system after they have had a lot of issues, or
you're gonna get some independent person you'd never heard of,
which you know, could be good, could be bad, but whatever,
this is the name we know and what I like
about it is the best part about Thunderbolts was the
connections with the characters and what they all personally went through.
You got action, you got camment, all that stuff, But
the stuff that's gonna be remembered is the stuff of a
void and Bob and all the other characters, and that
opening monologue, you know, Myers Wars with Yolanta talking about like,
you know, how depressed and lost she is, Like that's
what that movie was about, right, And I'm not saying
that's what X Men should be about. But X Men
deals with different things as far as feeling like an outsider,
feeling like you don't belong, feeling like an outcast, feeling
like the world is against you. And I think Thunderbolts
has some of those isms, but not to me, it's
not like a one to one like. I don't think
they're gonna be doing like the exact same like a
movie about mental health and illness. I think if you
feel dejected by society, of course that would impact your
mental health. But that's why you still need good writers included.
And I think those writers could become a board and
rewrite that script. I think that if I look at
these this director and what he did with Thunderbolts, go okay,
I can see how we get from Thunderbolts the X
Men with this character because to me, that's what or
with this director, because that's what's most important to me
with X Men is the character, even if it's something
like a stupid mute and high school drama. Right Like,
I feel like when we talked about ninety seven and
the show, that's the stuff we like. But yeah, okay,
it's cool seeming over and chop up sentinels, but what
we liked is the character dynamics with them. All right,
So on paper, as of right now, if you're just saying, hey,
you know this is gonna be the director, I'm sure
there's like, of course I love Ryan Kou, everybody's doing
Black Panther three. There's other directors that could have pulled
that at a hatchet. Yeah, this should be it. But
if you were to sit me down and after I
just saw Thunderbolts, which surprised me a lot, and again
also an ensemble movie, that's what X Men does as well.
My hope is that, unlike Thunderbolts, this movie is not
two hours. I hope it this is longer because I
think Thunderbolts could have used a little more. It wasn't
our notes. We didn't talk about it, but there's a
lot of stuff that came las week of like oh yeah,
like Ghosts had a scene near the end and we
did this, Like there's some stuff like, oh, yeah, this
could have been longer, but yeah, after you've seen Thunderbolts,
stay there, do you feel that this is you know,
could could be a safe pick because again, something they've
worked with, that's all their movies coming up, as all
people they've worked with. But how are you feeling this
is the person that supposedly gonna be tackling the mcux
men when we get there in the next few years.
Speaker 3: Let's make it happen. I mean, like, like you mentioned
ensemble cast, I mean, you need to have a director
that can kind of handle that, which this director can.
And after seeing Thunderbolts, this is not obviously a spoiler,
but there's certain scenes where it's not any fighting, it's
not anything crazy, it's just the team is just they're
having downtime and they're talking, and it's just it's something
that I feel like I've grown to appreciate the older
I've gotten. And it's probably not necessarily a big hit
for kids. Kids are probably gonna get bored. They want
to see their heroes fighting and doing cool things and
all that. But I think the adults can really appreciate
these kind of moments. There's something just fun and very
comedic in a lot of the things that they converse.
It just touches back to I think the first time
we ever got that was Age of Ultron, when they
were all just like shooting the shit. And well, I think.
Speaker 1: Iron Man still had that though, because Tony's just a
talkative character, right, Like, maybe not the multiple heroes, but
there's many downtime where yeah, like him and Rody a
stripper in front of them and their roadies drunk and
they're talking, right mm hm.
Speaker 3: So I think that then bringing that dynamic into here
would be great. Uh. And yes, you had mentioned the
Beef writers. I think they need to come along. I
did not finish Beef yet, but I need to. I
love everything that I've seen that there's a season two
coming out is that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's anthology though, but you should because Kaylle Spainey,
who was n Alien Rongins, is in it. But also I'm
nine to nine point nine percent sure Oscar Isaac is
in it as a lead.
Speaker 3: Oh, I think you're right. I heard it.
Speaker 1: I think I heard I think it's him and Carrie Mulligan. Yeah,
because it's him and Carrie Mulligan. You the second you
see Carrie Mulligan you would remember her. She played like,
uh remember in Saltburn they had that friend that was
crashing there and she's just like super Yeah. God, what
was her name? I can't remember. She's like a meme
in the first half that movie. But there, I think,
and then you got Alison or you got katele Kyle Coh,
my god, Katy Spain and Charles Melton. So I think
it's like an older couple versus younger couple sort of situations.
Speaker 3: So she was in Pride and Prejudice. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I found that out when Emily Madison saw it.
I was like looking at the cast like geez h Taylor,
like on topic but off topics, saying do you asked,
should the mcx men start with solo movies or focus
or should MC movie start solo movies focus on each
other's What do you think?
Speaker 3: Oh? No, I don't think they focus on a solo movie.
I think everyone everyone is familiar with these characters, and
I think you've.
Speaker 2: To each his own. But I feel like if you're putting.
Speaker 3: Out a Wolverine movie and a Gambit movie and a
Cyclops movie. I feel like you're kind of not watering
it down, but you're spreading yourself too thin, and you're
trying to capitalize off of one character and build up
that hype of like, Okay, we're gonna do four or
five movies before we get the X Men and just financially.
Speaker 2: Take advantage of people's wallets. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I think, what is that expression? Like, the the sums
are the parts are? God, I'm butchering.
Speaker 3: Out sums of our choices. We have the sums of
our choice.
Speaker 1: What the church are you going to? It's like the
sums of the partons, sums of our parts. Hang on here,
that's the sums of our parts. It's it is, It's
an expression. It's like the sum of the parts are
greater than I'll try to find it, but I think,
let's see expression here.
Speaker 2: The whole is greater than the some of the parts.
Speaker 1: Thank you, sorry. This is what happens when I got
Thursday kids soccer. It's a rush. It's like after school rush.
Speaker 2: Now, where did you pull this quote from? Where where
did you hear this from?
Speaker 1: Pretty many times in my life, like the whole is
greater than some of its parts, right, Yes, Okay, So
here's the thing where I don't think I'm gonna tell
you that. No, I think you can't have a few people.
I think obviously Wolverine had multiple he had had three
solo films, all successful, right, and he was a dead
Pool Wolverine. I think that is a character that, yes,
you can do. I think even to the point that
they could do an X Men movie, a Wolverine movie,
and you bring Wolverine into that and then he can
go off and do his own thing. Again, I think
there's certain ones, but I think it's much like the
Fox universe before, like Sony. The reason they do all
these villain movies we're gonna talk about with Clay Flays
later is because they can't do like a Spider Man
movie per se, right, or at least they didn't want to.
Same thing with Fox. I don't know if Marvel or sorry,
if Disney owned the X Men, if you would have
been getting first Class and Wolverine and we're gonna try
and do a Gambit movie and all like those solo
X Men ones, right, even Deadpool? Who knows. Maybe it
took a while. I think for me, there's a few characters,
like a Wolverine. I'd have to think more that you
could spin off. And maybe if you do an X
Men movie and someone really pops, you could do that. Like, hey,
let's say that rumor is true, right, and Marco quality
is rogue. That's a big star, big character. Maybe you
could do something. Maybe you could do like Deadpool Wolverine
where it's a rogue. That's somewhere I can see, Like
I could see like a Rogue and Gambit movie, maybe
not one by himself, but that I could see, like, oh,
it's like a you know, Bonnie and Clyde, them getting
in trouble, all that stuff. Right for me, I think
that The Avengers works because it's let's just go the
core for right. I know those are the members, but
got thor Cap, Ironman, a Hulk, they all those solo movies.
They do the Avengers and then they split off and
they wait till the next big threat. Right. You can't
really do that with X Men, Like to me, like,
once they're together, they should be together for the most part,
you know, and it just feels weird to like they assemble.
Let's say the first movie is about Okay, they all
are because we don't know. Maybe they're established team whatever.
Let's say it is about them getting to the X Mansion,
meeting Charles, all that stuff. Right. I feel like it's
weird of like they do that and then Scott it's like, well,
I'm gonna I'll be back next time and okay, see
Layer Jean. Like, no, they should be a unit moving.
They should be what the It sounds weird to use
an example, but they should be guardings the galaxy. In
my opinion, you know, they should always be together, barring
a few characters, like I said, Wolverine. He's been in
billion dollar movies, so like you could spin off a
Wolverine movie. Sure, and there's many other people like I said,
maybe someone really pops Rogan, Gambit, Magneto. Sure. But for
the most part, I think that you gotta pick and choose.
I think, like the TV show we're gonna talk about later,
but like, I think there's stuff you could do there.
As I've pitched before, I loved the idea of doing
like a Hogwarts sort of like all take go after
all the C and D list mutants and have them
in classes and do stuff and maybe okay, one or
two of the actors to be teachers, but nothing too big,
so for me, it shouldn't be that route. And that's
where it's something that's interesting is I saw one and
I had had this vibe. I topless on the review
and we'll see how Thunderbolts does later on. This news
does worry me in one sense where the one Scooper
and they like a sea tier. But they said, hey,
I heard about a few days ago was gonna put
this out. But they said that they heard Jake Schreier
would only be the director of this if they weren't
planning to do more Thunderbolts. And that was the same
vibe that I got with this because we got sung Chi.
A lot of people liked it. No sung Chi too,
But that director, he's got a gig just not so right,
wouldn't you like, isn't it weird? Like he was on
Avengers movie, now he's on Spider Man. Why no song Chi?
Same thing with Thunderbolts. Even if this marketing ploy and
even then I think it said like it had the
best Tuesday jump up from a Monday ever for a
Marvel movie. Whatever, right, Like hopefully second weekend does good
word of mouth hopefully it's not a big, massive drop
like Brave New World was. But even then it's not
gonna be a massive hit. I think that's why. Also,
what Tata is talking about, like spreading them out, I
think they are going to go back and we're gonna
talk about this again the fire report section. But they're
gonna people are gonna hate this. They're gonna lead with
their heavy hitters. They're gonna lead with Let's say they
do three movies a year go past, like even what's
coming out, a Black Panther, everything like that. That's gonna
be an X Men, a Doctor Strange, a thor that's
one year. The next year would be Fantastic Four, an
Avengers movie, Spider Man, or maybe something else. Right, Like,
I think they are going to mostly just do the
big ones, and I think they're gonna look at this
stuff where, don't get me wrong, Thunderbolts characters could be
in stuff, or the Thunderbolts could be a team of like, hey,
whenever we do Avengers seven, the Thunderbolts will be back.
I would love it, just like here that they're doing
a Thunderbolts too. I don't think that's happening. I don't
think I think this was risky enough. They're just happy
that all of people like it and they're gonna take
what they can get. But I think that from now
on the movies it's gonna be big time players because like,
like obviously before we used to have like Thor and
cap Environment and Guardians like right now currently, who who
do you think are like s Tier Marvel characters that
you can't bring back? Right? Like no, like Iron Man Downy, Like,
who are characters that you think are guaranteed.
Speaker 3: Hits, Oh my goodness that I can't bring back? So
none of the like yeah.
Speaker 1: No's I'm saying, like people that are dead or written off,
don't bring them back. Because obviously if you announced Chris
Evans Captain America movie, that's a big hit. I'm saying
people that are on the raw right now. So Thor,
I agree with you. That is one. I think doctor
Strange is another.
Speaker 2: Doctor Strange is for sure another.
Speaker 1: The hope is fantastic for right, that's the hope.
Speaker 3: That would be the hope. Yeah, against I mean, well,
Spider Man's already got yeah.
Speaker 1: And that counts as Spider Man.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: Here's a question. Here's the question. Well, they can't make
a Hulk movie right now, right here, here's the question
I'll ask you. Do you think we see with Sam
a Captain America sequel?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, do you think we see a ant Man sequel? No?
The answer is no, you don't. You don't know. Do
you think we see Captain Marvel's sequel?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No. So my point is all these people that I
think that and Black Panthers a treaty situation because Chadwick
would have been like an all start, like you would
have been asked here right, and they've lost him. And
I think people they like shurry, but it's not it's
not the same, right. I think that that's where I
think that a lot of these movies before, when it's like,
oh well we have the Avengers movie, but we got
to make sure Iron Man's big, Thor's big, Captain America's big,
they didn't have these main characters. Now. I think that
you will see Paul Rudd again, and you'll see Sam,
but I think that they won't even get their soul movies.
They'll just I think for now and Taire, I think
there's a good chance you just get Avengers movies with
those characters, so then every time you see those characters,
it feels like an all star game. But I think, again,
the hole is greater than some of the parts. I
think Disney looks at these characters now and they're not
like Steve Rodgers, They're not Tony Stark, they're not thor
where oh they can carry a movie by themselves. I
think they look at them as lesser than and I
think some of that it's Marvel's fault as far as
writing and situations. I think that now when because I've
seen that before, people oh, how will we go back
to doing you know, a few movies and they have
all these characters, they're just gonna trunk hit it. And
I think that's the thing where if you have three,
like I said, like let's say even it's just the teams.
Let's say twenty twenty eight, you have an Avengers movie,
an excellent movie, and a Fantastic four movie, you're covered
for teams, right. You know they all can do a
Thorn movie, can do a Spider Man movie. Like. I
think that's the thing where all these characters that maybe
you know, didn't deliver the goods for whatever reason on
soulo Ventures will just become a team up. But I
think that's probably a smarter route to be successful, right
because because like, yeah, I wouldn't make a sequel to
all those But I think if you have like Captain Marvel, Hulk,
you know, Sam Paul rutt All in one movie, then
I think you have a good chance of being successful, right.
So yeah, Like, I'm not sure if you have anything
more to add on that if with the I can't remember,
we kind of went all over.
Speaker 4: So no, I don't have anything else that ESPO says
they see they have someone who can make them a
good received movie if it didn't blow the box obviously, yes,
which I think is important because they're trying to.
Speaker 1: Turn the portion there. Let's see essentially says what role
will Hugh jack and Wolverine play the new era of
X Men. I really don't know. I know many people
are in the It's funny. I think he as a
general audience they wanted to stick around. I think hardcore
comic people are are no with the MCX men. They
show their own Wolverine. I'm in the camp. I know
it sounds weird and morbid, but like if Hugh Jackman
is around and he wants to still do it like pastially,
not just for money like pastally wants to do it.
I'm fine with him being Wolverine for the foreseeable future
because I just also don't think they've done this with
Spider Man. They're doing this with a Fantastic Four. They've
shown that when the other movies have covered stuff, they
don't really do that again. So I know people I
feel like, like, oh, they want to see like the
Mu's version of Scott Gene and Logan like Love Triangle.
I don't think they do that. I think they'd be like, no,
that's been done a lot that's been done in the cartoon, like,
let's do our own thing. So we're a you Tailor
and Hugh Jackman sticking around? You rather knew Wolverine? Or
would you be fine the sticking around?
Speaker 3: Well I kind of chuckle because I think that there's
still some a running joke to be made and the
truth that's involved with it. When and dipul Wolverine, they're like, yeah,
you're gonna do this at least ninety or something like that.
So I think him sticking around to be Wolverine it works.
We spent a good bear fair bit of time going
to different universes and seeing other Wolverines all being Hugh Jackman,
with the exception of the cavalrein of course. But no,
I think'd to make him. They could make him young,
they could age, they could do a couple little things
as long as it's not the Jeff Bridges from tron
Legacy DH. But I think that I put some stock
into what they're capable of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see, We'll see what happens. And then
finally I said, this is where you could actually skip
about five minutes. We won't be too long on because
we took longer here. But yeah, earlier this week they
changed I don't know if it's gonna be this way
for the title. Even when I look on my ticking
buying thing. They changed the poster, but I think the
movie is still called Thunderbolts. Let me see, it's still
called Thunderbolts, but the poster says New Avengers. H Taylor.
Did you think this happened Monday, so luckily you'd seen
it for that. Do you think this is a good
idea of marketing wise? Do you think this is gonna
work out? Do you think this would make people that
didn't see it the week one go into it, or
you are you personally offended that they spoiled the movie
and stuff like that, Like what do you think about this?
I think they said the official title of Thunderbolts, and yeah,
that's what I thought. Because it's all the people being like, oh,
they're gonna change. It's like you go first day there
and I'll say something after.
Speaker 3: I do get bothered at how movies are quick to
release things because for the most part, like, yeah, we
doing this podcast, we see a movie usually Thursday night,
and that come that weekend. By Sunday Saturday, even a
lot of people online have spoiled it and they're posting
actuals like clips from the movies on social media all
this kind of stuff. But then you know that's just people.
You can avoid people. But then when you see on
Monday in the morning the actual official marble on Disney
pages are sharing videos and like updates and all this
kind of stuff, It's like, what is going on. Not
everyone in the world is seeing your movies the first weekend,
so some of them are waiting to see it like
the following weekend or something like that. It's just it
blows my mind, blows my mind out how bold of
a strategy that is. That being said, I like what
they were doing, and I liked how Sebastian Stan was
doing some gorilla marketing and just going out and taking
it and that was that was definitely a lot of fun.
And I was funny because I was watching the video
of him doing what he was doing. Then you dropped
that link in our in our chat of him doing it.
I was like, Oh, that's sort of coincidence. But yeah,
I like that they've done the name change, and I
think in retrospect that that would actually pull in a
lot more people because I think a lot of people
would be like, oh, what like new Avengers movie. Oh
my god, let's let's go check it out.
Speaker 2: Let's see what this is, what's going on here?
Speaker 1: So yeah, for me, like clearly something I had planned
because they had all those posters, all these things ready
to go for the week after. It's tough when you
get into the whole like oh are people like are
you ruining for people like like, I don't know, hang
on what one second, Emily, have you have you seen
any swas from Thunderbolts? Okay, so she did see that thing,
So there you go. I was just wondering if, like
how many people see this, and like I don't think
a really cares too much about it, but like how
many people like one way or another doesn't really sell
them or not. I think it's something that they want
to going into Doomsday, especially Fantastic Four as well, Like
they want to get those they already have opening weekends,
they're big, but they want them to be bigger. I
think them dropping that on the Monday is trying to
tell people like, hey, if you really don't want to
be spoiled, you better get your ass there first thing
to watch it, right, So it's almost like snooze, you lose,
you got four days? Too bad? Sorry, you know. And
I think it will push a little more people, but
I don't think it's to the point where it's going
to like, oh man, this is gonna make it a
huge profitable movie. Like I think if anything in the
word or mouth will still help. But clearly, like I said,
this was a plan because like they didn't like see
the box office numbers on Sunday and then call Sam
and be like, hey, Monday morning, you're getting out there
and putting posters on the street. To me, what I
liked about is that kind of fit with the movie, right,
because that's how it's like all just sporadically thrown together
that the New Avengers, Right, So that's what this felt
like marketing wise, like oh, let's make it almost like
the movie Real World, where Okay, yeah, this is Avengers
are not Thunderbolts, blah blah blah. But it's like, I
don't think anybody really believes this, and I think when
the actual Vendors movie gets the pre like, I don't
think this is gonna hurt because I seem to be like,
oh man, they're throwing the Avengers title on here, first
non billion dollars Avengers movie, this and that It's like, no,
I don't think that's the point. I think people will
still understand the the idea of the real Avengers and
that also, it's just like most of the Thunderbolts trailers, they're
kind of paying them as losers, right, Like I think
most people with half of Rain, if they're really in
the combox stuff, we'll kind of get it. Like even
when the titles they are the New Avengers, there's still
an asterix on it, so I think and again that
doesn't that's not what is great about the movie, and
the movie's not even about that. That's just like a
small addendum. The movie's about all what the characters go through.
So will work. I think you gotta try because they
think they're in the day and age where they're just
box office is so tough. You never know what's gonna hit,
and they just want to make as much money as possible.
So would you ask me, would this get more people like?
I think people, for the most part, had decided if
they're gonna see it or not. I think most people
decide that nowadays with movies in general. I think, sure
there's some that are walking. Like with Minecraft, I'm sure
some people went to go see it that didn't plan
it because it was like kind of a phenomenon. There's
some like fun stuff about it, right happy or like
Barbenheimer same thing, right, like, oh, let's go see them together.
But for the most time, I think people see the
trailers and they know right away if that's at home
watch or a theater watch. Even thought knowing the quality
like you have to get like a universal praise made
for people to go and be like, Okay, I'm really
gonna see like a Dune too, and that had like
such a big jump for the first one. So yeah, yeah,
we'll see. I'm interested. On a second weekend goes, there's
not much tracking out there. I hope it held well because,
like I said, I want a sequel, but I don't
know if we're gonna get that if Jake Shreer is
doing X Men. But I hope see these characters around there,
so let's see a specific training field to see all
Marvel movies. The first weekend, they drop a clip of
the Earth ex floating Tuesday after Fantastic four, Yeah, that'd
be something well, And that was the thing I can't
remember during endgame, I think it was the Russo's in
her interview were asked by somebody like, oh, what's the spoiler?
You know, like timeframe like when we can start dropping it,
and they are like two weeks. Everyone kept that we're
not on an age anymore, you know. It's like two
weeks is turned into four days. And that's thing, like
you said, when I got home, like I ready saw
the end credits were already on Twitter all over for Thunder,
so it's like that's the same thing.
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 1: That's who oh, it's bad. This is where you know what.
Another thing where I think it's a good idea and
I'll completely land that side is the chairs stuff. Right
with End Avengers Doomsday. They did that because a bunch
of Scoopers. We're gonna find that out first, and you're
gonna get set photos real or not, you're gonna get
people flying there. So it's like instead of those Scoopers
getting the moment for themselves, let's do it themselves. So awesome.
There's still people that night of post the Thunderbolts end
credits scene. There's some big stuff going on in all
of them. But then with this, it's like, well Monday,
they know it's gonna be out there anyways, right, so
people like, oh, I can't believe they'd spoiled. This is
like eventually people are gonna talk about it, Facebook, everything.
So it's like a let's just do it and we
can throw it as actual promotion and marketing. So I know,
we'll see what happens come next weekend and see if
it works if it didn't, because if it held, if
it held, well I know people are gonna make oh
look that's the reason. If it doesn't, they oh look
that's the reason. But I don't think it's that. I
think it's the word of mouth of anything. Will be
people going back for a second time or telling people
to go see it because I'm somebody. We just don't
have the time right now. But I would see it
a second time, you know, because that's how well I liked,
and I think there's other people that would. So well,
let's say an ad break. We're gonna talk about some
other stuff, so'll be right back and we're back.
Speaker 3: So let's see I have in the right spot.
Speaker 1: I think I did have in the right spot. Yeah,
let's talk about this. Supposedly, Ryan Reynolds writing a Deadpool
an X Men team up, no specific things on the era,
on the character, so whether that be Fox X Men
or the new mcux men. The idea is that it's
just three to four. The article, which that's why it's weird,
said that he hasn't pitched the idea to Marvel yet,
but if this article's out, he's if he's talked to
Marvel about the idea. So I don't know if it's
like I know, some people theorize that he's trying to
get some good press for the bad press have gone.
I don't know. If it's something like he's just trying
to get other things in motion, or maybe they were
not wanting it so he's putting it out there, or
it's just like a it just slept through the crabs,
slept to the crabs, let's slip through the cracks. And
it is something they're working on. But obviously we imagine
we're gonna see him in like Doomsday or Secret Wars.
But how would you feel about this, Taylor? As far
as like a Deadpool movie with a few X Men,
like is this there? And the idea is it would
be a supporting role, because Ryan also said that I
don't think there's gonna be an actual Deadpool four. He
says kind of going forward, he wants to probably do
like what Tolby Andrew do you where you know is
a supporting character and stuff, but it's never a Deadpool movie.
Does that interest you? Does it interest you? As far
as is the route the should go, as far as
should be Fox X Men again or is that after Doomsday?
Should you? Or Secret Wars? Should you just say goodbye
to all multiverse characters for a while and it should
be Deadpool with our new X Men? Like what are
you feeling this because this was very random, because I thought,
I honestly thought we'd not hear anything about a Deadpool
related movie for anything until after Secret Wars. Is that Okay,
he'll come there, he'll make an appearance, him and he
will be together, and then we'll hear some other stuff.
But hear about this now. It feels like kind of
weird timing to me, Which is that why people theorize
that is this maybe his camp putting that out there?
Like yeah, I'm uh, you know, I know there's some
bad press, but I'm working on another Deadpool movie, you know,
So what do you think about this?
Speaker 3: I think, I mean another Deadpool movie. That's I mean,
he's got the money to back. I mean, it's such
a popular franchise and people people would.
Speaker 2: Want that for sure.
Speaker 1: I would say billion dollar last movie, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bill and our last movie. So that's that's a big,
heavy hitter, and it shows that they're doing something right. Yeah,
but yeah, like I don't know, like are we would?
I feel like this touches upon like them doing an
X Men movie and like picking certain characters instead of
just doing like an x Men movie and putting characters
into that as the ensemble, because like, are you just
doing a single Deadpool movie? Are you gonna be bringing
one of those characters over into it like a collaboration
co op thing like we did with Wolverine, Like.
Speaker 1: You asking my opinion? Yeah, yeah, okay, I thought you
were asked rhetorically, Like I really don't know. I just
Deadpool's such a tricky thing because to me, with the
new X men, I don't know if I really want
Deadpool around them right now. But I realize that Ryan
Rails is getting older, and I'm assuming because howl is
he's like forty six, forty seven, right.
Speaker 3: Can you look at that for me, Like he's late forties.
Speaker 1: I just feel like, does he want to be in
a Deadpool student in his fifties?
Speaker 3: Forty eight?
Speaker 1: He's forty eight, so that's two years. Like by time
Secret Wars is done, he'll be fifty. It's like does
he want to be? And don't get me wrong, there's
some fun jokes they can do like an old man
like Deadpool and stuff. But so maybe that's the idea.
I don't know, so because like again, like the natural
thing is oh easy. You just get his gambit, you
hat Colossus, you can bring back Domino and you could
do Cable. They didn't do Cable, right, he was nowhere
to be seen in Dead Poo Wolveringe like you could
do like a mini Xport's like, and that does interest
me to a point. Don't get me wrong. I've enjoyed
all the Deadpool movies. I think I've all given them
high ratings. They just like it feels odd timing, and
it would just feel also odd if it's like Secret
Wars is the end of the multiverse and here's your
one universe. But then guess what Deadpool's doing me with
Channa Tames Gambit, because I I'm hoping that Channing Tames
Gambit is not our gambit, you know, like when we
get to the mcux men, like I don't want him
to be going forward, so and then again him with
the New X Men feels kind of odd, like I'd
much rather, you know, him be with Spider Man or
him or even just do him and Wolverine again doing
some sort of thing. I really don't know. Do you
have a preference for which way you'd go?
Speaker 3: I mean with Gambit, like.
Speaker 1: No, just Deadpool, Like, would you rather they say, hey,
you could do It's gonna be the legacy X Men
or the new ms you can't like, Like let's say
it's like Margaret Kwall Andhert Dickinson, like those people, Like
what what do you view better?
Speaker 3: If I had to pick, I'd say it would be
a great well. I always defer to the Force Awakens
kind of scenario here where they didn't include Luke, because
if you included Luke too early on, then it's gonna
pull the attention away from all the other characters. But
at the same time, I think you just gotta you
gotta brace yourself and coax yourself into it slowly. I
think if they use Deadpool, everyone's gonna be going there
for Deadpool obviously, but you could maybe use Deadpool to
kind of bridge the fandom and the viewership into getting
to know these new characters. At the end of the day,
If it had to be X Mean, then fine, whatever.
But if I could pick, I'd prefer it to be
another team like Man, if you were to have Deadpool
and like the.
Speaker 2: Thunderbolts, that'd be freaking hilarious.
Speaker 3: And I think Deadpool opens up a whole like when
you you've spent so many years with the character like
Iron man, And you think you already know this character
inside and out through their tribulations and the movies and
everything that we've seen. You throw Deadpool in there. It
changes everything and you get a total different light of
this character. So I think that they should hopefully lean
away from the X Men, even though Deadpool is heavily
attached to the X Men. I get that.
Speaker 1: That's what he's writing apparently, is that's what Reynolds is
writing script right now, is to him and other mutants.
Speaker 3: So yeah, then maybe what would be a good if
I had to pick one mutant I don't need I
think a lot of people would want him in Gambit.
I don't need him in Gambit, I'd say him, and
we've already got Wolverine, So him and hmm.
Speaker 1: The script though has three to four. That's the thing. Supposedly,
it's not just like him in a partner, it's him
and multiple people. And that's where it's like, I don't
know if like, because my idea pitch would be, oh,
well it's dead lost.
Speaker 3: A bunch of yeah, a megasonic teenage warhead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, then that's just Deadpool for like, that's just what
And that's the thing. It's like you can't do that,
and then for me, I'd go, Okay, we'll put them
with a bunch of seated D tier listers, But I
don't think they'd want that because then that would just
be people waiting to see Deadpool's movie. And abviously we
have to wait until we see who our X Men
lineup is. But I imagine like Storms, Scott and Gene
are going to be in there, and I don't really
see Deadpool there, and Detail says like, you have to
have Gambit. I agree if it's Tatum's scambit, but I
like if it's if it's not, which I don't want
to be. If Channing does not go forward after Secret Wars,
I don't want Gambit anywhere near Deadpool because I don't
want gambuted like yamb It's like comedic character, but he's
not a goof like like he's not goofy. I'll say,
like Channing, Tatum's gambit is right, so yeah that thing,
but like Detell says, like, oh, definitely Channing. But again
it's like I thought Secret Wars was supposed to be
the end of the multiverse stuff, right, I don't hate
the multiverse like other people. If you look at their
biggest movies Multiverse of Madness, No Way Home Dead, Pull Wolverine,
when people say, oh, the multiverse SOAKA really hasn't worked.
Yeah for us, like well, not mean for me, for
like you hardcore people, for the general audience, those are
the biggest movies of this since Endgames. People like the
multiverse stuff, right, So I'm not opposed to going away.
It just feels like if Secret Wars is to Okay,
we're gonna condense the timelines and we're gonna get F
four together and that's how we're gonna explain the X Men,
it would just feel weird to kind of have like
a goodbye maybe to some of these characters and make oh,
they're right back, unless there's some world where this comes
out before Secret Wars, because maybe Secret Wars gets delayed
or something like that. But I just I don't know.
Speaker 2: So I think they're past that now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: But they haven't started shooting Secret Wars right They're only
shooting Doomsday right now. So yeah, there could be a
situation where maybe they just go, we we want some
more time. And I don't know. It kind of feels
like to me, if like imagine when James Gunn took
over and the Flash made a billion and you're like, well,
what do we do right? Difference is like I love
Deadpool still on round, but it's it's like Deadpool didn't
really fit to come in when he did now. But
that's why if you look at that movie, they're completely
other than like the Void an other things. They're completely
by themselves. Right, it's not Deadpool over and trying to
get the m Zoo. They're just dealing with other Fox
and Sony properties that doesn't really know it could So
maybe something like that where it's just like completely nothing
to do with like the main timeline and just something
for fun. This is where I would love it if
Marvel had like a black label or an else World's
like film chain where it's like, hey, we're gonna do
Deadpool movie with him some X Men has nothing to
do with Cannon. You guys just love Deadpool. He he makes
jokes about that good, you know. So I don't know,
we will see.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: The other thing we're gonna see is uh, you know,
I forget to throw to because we had a lot
to talk about. But Taylor, I was told, so I've
been told a lot of great deal things. Since I've
been back, right, I've been told they didn't attack me,
so that's one. I've been told that you're gonna reveal
some information of set attacker. But then when I just
pulled up the video, it was just you getting thrown
into a trunk by pant Solo, which I don't know
if that's just you as a double in there. I
don't know if it's a setup. I don't know if
it is a real Pantsil because Pantsol there's no real
Pantsil because just a bunch of us always wearing the
fucking mask. So I don't know who it is, but
it could just still be you. But so you said that,
now you know, you know somehow luckily you're back. You're
only injured for a week, but good for you. What
what is this proposal? What's going on here? What are
we talking about here? If you have this proof, why
haven't I seen it? You know, like I said, I
try to avoid seeing you on the real life because
you know, lots of lawsuits penning as usual. But what's
the proposal going on here? Uh?
Speaker 3: So, you know, basically I got a few priorities at
the post attack scenario here and being now.
Speaker 1: Proof back should be one of it. You said you
have proof, buttle the proof though, I do?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Do did yet?
Speaker 3: Pencil just totally fucking threw me around, and you know,
the caprangles and whatnot. It was just it was not
my favorite doctorate imaging.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Just there's more to that footage than what we were
led to believe. Now, I may not have the evidence currently,
I'm working on it, but I know I know who
did this.
Speaker 2: It's clear as.
Speaker 1: Such a setup. To me, this is like I'm getting
set up here.
Speaker 3: So at the end of this month, I think that's
when I'm I think all the feelers are telling me.
End of the month, I think everything will be kind
of a line star as aligned. So that's when I'm
going to uh basically out them in person. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And but I needn't make sure someone I.
Speaker 1: Know, can I ask that?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, yes, closely affiliated with I'm sure are their
initials TF? No, No, no they're not. So I am
vindicated from this for sure. And you'll see this when
I when I we we oust them because I want
you to join me in taking down this attack. I
got to make sure everyone and my family is safe.
Take care of priorities, you know, safe, secure, all that
kind of jazz before before this happens. But yeah, if
you're watching End of the Month, you're your time is up.
Speaker 1: So you're telling me what you're gonna do is you're
gonna pick a date. You're gonna send your family off
the way so they're safe, and then you're gonna tell them, hey,
this date, come to my place one on like monoi mono.
But you want me to be there for that?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm that's right. I need you there because I
don't want to be surprised, attacked again, throw them back
into the vehicle kind of a repeat.
Speaker 1: Would hate to be attacked, you know, as someone that's
never been attacked by this man by himself. And when
I say this man, it's this man right here attacked
me many times. A hm. No, I would like to
believe you. But here's where I am up to minds
where if I'm right and you're just behind this all,
I'm just walking into a trap and I get attacked
again and who knows how long I'm gone. And two,
if I'm wrong and you do have some sort of
proof and this is some individual that's closely affiliated, I'll
happily be watching this video, this live stream, this occurrence,
but I will not be there. I'm gonna I know,
people are gonna think that's cowardly because this person, whoever
it is, this person attacked me as well. But as
I said in my first trap, I told you back
that I have changed, I've evolved. I just deal directly
with the lawyers. I will not physically get into an altercation.
I've always had kids, but now I have a lot
of them. I got the twins, I got babies. I
can't afford to be hurt or injured at any point.
I can't begin these fights. So I'll happily, you know,
let you deal with your things, because then hopefully there's
a trap, then you got no content. But I'm not
fallen for anything, and Tam, I'm sorry, I will not
I'll not join you on this adventure. You can. You
can sniff out this attack or all you want, but
I'm the gun holster is planted over there, and that's
in the retired zone. So but I'll look forward to
in the month. I wish you best of luck, so
but no trust liar. So we'll see you know, so
we'll see some movies coming up trailers. We got trailers
for now you see me three. Don't worry, I s
Bubs didn't forget Squid Game season three, conjuring last rites
for how to Train Your Dragon Honey, don't the Long
Walk and the Echo Valley. I'll let you start Hollow
Training Drain. Because I did not watch this, I kind
of forgot. And I also just have nothing that because
I'm not gonna see it, but you and Kerklanofs You're
gonna be seeing it early. No review early because there's
gonna be some birthdays and stuff happening with the Kirkland's Lady.
But there will be a review in about a month
or so once I come out early June, I think,
or late June, either way, in the next couple of months.
How was this trailer? Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this this trailer had a lot of a lot
of magic to it. Is very exciting, and it's been
a while since I've seen that first movie.
Speaker 2: Obviously, I know that there is some shot for shot, uh.
Speaker 3: Some some I don't know if everything is shot for
shot like the same, but there's some that are absolutely
spot on in comparison, like just live action compared to animation.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask, are you gonna watch the anime
movie before or try to go and blind watch live
action and then watch the animation after.
Speaker 3: After watching this trailer, I did get a like a hunger,
like I gotta watch that that animated one, But I
don't know if I should. We're getting close, and I
think I might just hold off that way.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit just.
Speaker 3: Kind of fresh. The first one, I always I remember,
like the first part, but I always kind of forget
how like from the middle all the way to the
end kind of concludes with this this movie, I remember,
I think the second one and the third one a
little bit better than I do the first one. The
first one, Yeah, Like I just remember the first like
quarter of the film the most.
Speaker 2: Everything else at the.
Speaker 1: Back half of the end recommendation, I remember the quarter
first of the film.
Speaker 3: But that all that being said, like I just remember,
I feel good about watch when I watched the movie
as a good feeling, and it's just very entertaining, it's engaging,
and it's just it's it's you know, DreamWorks. They they
did good. They did good with that one.
Speaker 1: Detail asked if we're reviewing Ballerina, Yeah, we should be.
When was I thought there's something coming up for when
it's Ballerina that's the fifth I thought there was, Oh,
that's the only thing I should be able to because
I got my logan Sockers on that day and if
it runs late, so I should be. But if not,
there'll be a review because you're you're.
Speaker 3: Doing that right And what day is that? June fifth?
Speaker 1: June fifth, Yeah, Thursday, ball Arena, So there definitely will
be a review maybe if something happens where we can't
do it that same night because that week's very busy
because we've also got newscasts as usual, we got preder Killers, Killers,
we got Summer Games Fest, we got switched to so yeah,
because June fifth is switched to right as.
Speaker 3: Well, holy shit it is, yeah, and then.
Speaker 1: We got an Xbox Strek, So yeah, there will be
one detail for sure. It's just question will happen for sure,
like the Thursday night as usual that's a TVD because
even with me and you same thing with our switch toos,
they might not be there that exact day and like
we got the whole weekend right, but yeah, they'll they'll
be something. I know what's happening. So what about I'll
hit you with these two because they're you know, not
the franchise. What do you think of or even all
three of these? Honey, don't long walk in Echo Valley
Long Walk.
Speaker 3: I had no idea where we're going with that, and
that one just took a nasty, dark, dark twist. The
main guy in the camel, how's Mark Hamill, Who's.
Speaker 1: Like the yeah, the old soldier, like you better start walking?
Oh yeah, that's Mark Hamibell.
Speaker 3: I when I first saw him, the way he was talking,
the way he looked, you remind me of the guy
from Falling Kingdom who.
Speaker 2: Was like, what does he say?
Speaker 1: I want my bonus?
Speaker 3: You know, like who pulls the teeth out of the dinosaurs?
Speaker 1: I do not remember him. You remember Fallen Kingdom a
lot better than I do, so I remember, and I
think I was right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the other person this was David Johnson. He played
what's his name in Alien Romulus? Who's the Android? It
was Andy, right, I think it was. I think it
was Yeah, Yeah, he's in this. That got me very excited.
I've never read the Stephen King novel. I've read a
lot of the news stuff, but yeah, this was interesting.
This for me is really gonna be like curious on
the run time because I feel like this movie can't
Like I feel like this movie has to be an
hour half, right unless there's something that happens after the walk,
Like let's say the Walk ends and then there's like
an action thing or some kind of like how Hunger
Games was about the game but ended up always being
something more. And I think they were smart to say
from the director of all these Hunger Games movies. And
it's a bunch of young people in a competition that
ends with death. Like I feel like you're hitting people
on that fan base of like, hey, do you like
kids competing in a game that get them killed? That's
what this is, right, Like very different the Hunger Games
in the Long Walk, but it's the same idea, right
as far as young kids in the middle of a
game that ends in their death. So yeah, for me,
I'll definitely see this because I'm curious. I like see
Mark Campbell in this kind of more villainous role and
David Johnson become a big fan of Not sure if
I'll see it in the theaters, but I'll definitely be
watched at some point before the year in there so
did you get your answer there.
Speaker 3: Yes, I can't remember his exact name.
Speaker 2: Oh Wheatley?
Speaker 3: Do you remember Wheatley?
Speaker 1: No? I remember, Okay, I remember like a few the
actions at pieces, and I remember the fucking old guy
gets suffragate with that pillow. Okay, let's see here.
Speaker 3: Mills, where are you? I want my bonus? I ever
skip ahead? Just give it ahead here he looks like
him though?
Speaker 1: Oh? Is that is the actor's named Ted Levine?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a guy who plays Buffalo Bill in uh
Science to the Lamb. Would you fucked me?
Speaker 3: I thought that was in this scene.
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, would you fuck me?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Cody Roads Vodka? What is I suppose? What are you
referring to? What am I missing here? But so you're
gonna checking a long walk?
Speaker 2: Then at some point I would.
Speaker 3: Like to Yes, I would like to.
Speaker 1: Echo Valley just on Disney Plus or sorry, Apple plus.
Speaker 3: Disney Plus.
Speaker 1: I more Sidney Sweening, Dormal Gleason.
Speaker 3: Uh more is is fantastic? But I got I got
kind of bored watching this trailer. I'm not really sure like.
Speaker 2: Taylor, it wasn't really pulling me in.
Speaker 3: Uh so I'm probably Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna drop
a no on that.
Speaker 1: I was excited because at first I was worried and
I don't think that's the case. I thought they were
making it look like Sidney Sweeney is playing like a
high schooler, but I don't think she is. But I
was like, once you did like anyone, but you like
you can't be the high school don't get me wrong.
And he swinging, he's still super young, gorgeous woman. Like
not saying, oh she looks old, I'm just saying like one, yeah,
Like I'm just saying like there's a time where it's like, yeah, okay,
get away from that. Stuff's always hap just at the
beginning though she had like a big hoodie and stuff
always like Julie Moore. I did not know Dominill Gleason
was in this. I'm a huge Dominal Gleason fan. And
he's playing like a like a shade, like maybe the
like an antagonist in this. So as I said, and
then Kyle McGlaughlin is also this, I think he's the dad.
So I'm all in. I agree with you that For me,
this is purely just I like like four a seemingly
the four main characters in this or actors I really like,
so I'll be there. It's Apple Plus, which my mom has,
so I have. Uh, so I will watch that, let's see.
And then was either on honey don't what did you
think about this one?
Speaker 3: Honey don't. This one has a certain kind of it
has an allure to it. It definitely kind of was
pulling me in and I'm curious. I'm curious to see
how this is gonna go this this story and oh god,
why am I drawing a blank? Who was opposite? Who
was opposite?
Speaker 1: The seven?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris seven is just playing in this this churchly
kind of setting, and there's a little bit of other
mischievous things kind of ongoing in the background. I really
think this is gonna be a lot of fun. It
looks like it's kind of a comedic not suspense, but
comedic action drama kind of kind of roll and I
don't know, I'm excited for it. This is gonna be
one that I'm definitely gonna watch.
Speaker 1: Wow, definitely you should watch in the same vein because
a lot of people didn't like it as much as
I did. Driveway Dolls, that's what he did last time.
It's also the Marto Qualley or she's still playing lesbian.
But what happens with this is this is the Coen Brothers,
but this is Ethan Cohen. The Coen Brothers split up,
and he did driveway Dolls, and now with this and
a lot of people are like, oh, I really wish
the brothers would get back together. I liked driveway Dolls
a lot more than other people.
Speaker 2: What are they did the brothers?
Speaker 3: Grimsby? Is this fucking for real?
Speaker 1: Well, brother Grimsby, is that the one with Sashburn Cohen?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, why is it listed in here? Why is it
listed in Cohen? I don't think he did the brother.
Speaker 2: Because because what did he did? No Country for Old Men?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's listed here, driveaway Dolls here, and then
it throws Grimsby in here?
Speaker 2: Did they do true grit?
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, he's not a director, he's not. No that
that has to be wrong. Maybe he's a producer on there,
but I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna share my screen because I find
this very confusing.
Speaker 1: I don't think so there, what is this? But why
did you just search Grimsby? No?
Speaker 2: I didn't because I put uh oh I spelled the
name wrong.
Speaker 1: Sasha Bart Cohen.
Speaker 3: That's so fun.
Speaker 1: That's why you put Cohen and brothers were Grimsby they
are brother is no.
Speaker 3: List.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, that's a weird fucking turn.
Speaker 1: And there's part of me that things A lot of
people did not like driveway Dolls because they've just made
like epic, fantastic movies, and when driveway Dolls and not,
they're like, man, he's shit. I still enjoyed it. I
think I will enjoy this. I'll like Chris Evans in
this type of you know shit heel priest character. I
think Aubrey Plasma recall I canna have a great sex scene.
I canna tell already. And Marvel Qualley it's just like
she's I can watch her do anything, not just because
she's a good looking broad, just like she's just uber talented,
especially the comedic stuff. I thing she's really good as
well too. So I'll be watching this and I'll probably
like it like I did with dryway House. I'm not
saying it's up there work No No Controlman's the top
ten movie for me. I fucking love that movie to death.
It's nowhere near in that shrasspear. I get that, but
I guess I just wasn't expect that because the coincident
had any of those in a while. So I'll give
you the floor for you right now now you see
actually not, I'll go I did watch Now You See
Me three. I did because Spub's wanted to talk. But
I've never seen one of these movies. I can't remember
who said it in the discord about them given me
the whole movie. Absolutely. This trailer just shows all the beats. Yeah,
lots of good cast and here like yeah, roseamun piked anything.
I'm there. That girl green Blats in there, I really like,
uh oh, I can't remember his name, but he is
from The Holdovers. I fucking love The Holdovers and he
looks like he's the new like Jesse Eisenberg character. I
don't think I was ever in it looked like I
was like, Okay, I like this trait enough. I think
when they lost me and they're like and maybe the
other two are like this as well. But then when
they're like, oh, eight magicians versus criminal organization, what could
go wrong? Or isn't that like something like that, I
was like, okay, I'm out because s Pubs had said
that last week or it's like, oh, it's like Fast
and Furious. We're fast. That's like not a great thing
for me. Fast and Furious to me is like the
only one that could do that. And even them after
six Fast and Furious went too Fast and Furious and
they're just over over the top to the point that
I can't even enjoy them anymore. And that's why we've
gotten another one, because they were gonna that maybe end
on a fucking cliffhanger, and we've not seen that at all. So, Yeah,
this didn't convince me to watch it. I said I
might watch it because I think Emily likes them, and
she she's like, I think she's like, oh, I thought
we watched this one. I guess I must have fell asleep,
so I might give them a chance. But nothing that
made me like got to see this other than great cast.
But you said you were you're big fan of these.
That's why we say this for when you were on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really liked the second one a lot more
than the first one, the.
Speaker 1: One moving on to the next one.
Speaker 3: There's one sequence in that in that movie that's just
that's really really fantastic. I love the cinematography and I
like how they're doing their you know, their their tricks
and everything like that. It's funny because it gets to
a point where I've seen some crazy magician performances and.
Speaker 2: How they're doing some this shit.
Speaker 3: I do not know. It is some crazy shit. But
the stuff that they do with the movies, it's like
God tier level. It's stuff that you can't do in person.
It's just shit that's like it's God teer, and the
only way you can do it is if you're filming
a movie and you're acting, and you have like special
effects and CGI and stuff. It's completely Hollywood eyes, which
is totally fine because it makes for a very engaging
and entertaining time, which is the reason why we got
such a fantastic sequence. And now you see me too.
The first one and the second one we're just aimed
at taking down this main bad guy and getting in
good with the Eye. But now here we are with
this one and this one just seems like they're going
at it alone and they're trying to. I mean, you
guys said the trailer literally shows everything. But they're going
at it and they team up again later on and
they're just trying to make money and steal from the
rich kind of a thing. It just seems more like
it's an anthology than really a third part to what's
going on. And maybe that's something that's hidden from the trailer.
How connect into the main narrative that is established in
part one and part two. I don't know. It feels
like an anthology film more than a third movie, just
in a film that's taking place in this universe with
these characters, and it just feels like, Okay, they just
kind of shoehorn in a bunch more characters, but justin Smith,
I mean, I'm always I'm there for Justice Smith, always
Justice Smith. That kid is he's fantastic. Shout outs to Kirkland,
you know, Dungeons and dragons in our favorite scene where
you like fresh cut grass, you smell that great actor.
Speaker 1: That's your favorite scene name.
Speaker 3: That's one of our favorites.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one of them. See if you've changed it, you know,
I know, I still think that either the Graveyard one
is the best or everyone's Chris Pine's playing the instrument,
his fucking.
Speaker 3: They're also good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing I liked do in the most.
But we'll see from there. Squid Way three didn't give
us much they're playing coy this is in June. I'm
not sure. Maybe there's a chance me and Taylor could
review this because we've never reviewed games. It's the ending,
so maybe we should hear this. Definitely didn't give me much.
Seems like they're holding cards or chest or to their vest,
which ever one both my two things about this trailer though,
was one, I was kind of disappointed. God, what's the
being character's name again in this?
Speaker 3: Holy shit, I can't remember.
Speaker 1: But anyways, so when the End of the Way ended
last season or was this is season three right?
Speaker 3: Season three?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, it's I forgot the way they were
doing it, but when season two ended, I was very
curious which route this character was going. And then the
fact that this trailer opens up with well, I just
put them back in the games. It's like, oh, all right,
I'm kind of hoping there's like an episode before we
get there, because that's like the least interesting thing, especially
with like who was with them in those games, what
they're doing, like all this really cool stuff. I know
we'll get there, but I just thought to put them
back in the games. I was like, okay, that that's
a little lack lust we'll see. I feel like you
could still have him have his story and the games
go on, because we're invested in characters that are in
the games, but maybe they don't feel that way. And
then obviously there's that thing you hear at the end.
I think introducing a baby to this dynamic is going
to be very awful in a good sense for the show.
I think it's gonna get very fucked up. I think
don't know what's gonna happen there. I don't know how
that counts. That's just like and we all know what's
going that route when they introduce a pregnant player, but
I wasn't sure, like, Okay, I guess I didn't know
one hundred percent of was going the route, but we
thought it was a very good possibility. And now that
seems like that's happening. Yeah, that's gonna be that's gonna
be some tough watch. But yeah, this didn't raise my
excitement just because the trailer was It felt like just
like an announcement trailer, But it also didn't like lower
it just same where it is very excited to see
how the story ends and then see if they butchered.
In the American version.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I remember watching School Game season one and
I ended up finishing it in within twenty four hour span.
It was super super quick. Season two just the same thing.
I tried to space it out because I was really
enjoying it, and it's just I really enjoy the show.
So this, yeah, I'm kind of surprised that they showed
that they just threw him back into the game, although
that is kind of torture and hell, and to see
the dynamic of having a baby in there is that's
that's crazy. We got some more shots of seeing all
of the uh what are they called, Not the investors,
they're the character the rich people with the masks the
animals on them. I can't remember what they're called. But
we got to see like a whole bunch more of them.
It look like I was a room of like ten
of them all together. So I'm excited to see what's
going to happen here. And uh yeah, just obviously we
know that that boatman is kind of steering the whole
like army that not the actual army, but this like
hired soldiers that were working for our main character. They're
trying to find the island to get there, so We're
gonna get an interesting climactic finale here.
Speaker 2: I can't wait.
Speaker 3: I just see all these guys like show up on
the island and like take them down and rescue our
main character and all that kind of stuff. There's gonna
be some interesting things. And I'm thinking, I don't think
we're gonna get to the final game. I think it's
gonna come down to the last Well, maybe we'll get
to the final game. I don't know. I just feel
like we're gonna have a few people still alive when
the attack happens, not just too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really don't know, because I I the way
how they ended last season. Didn't think we're gonna go
that route for sure, but like up to that point.
But yeah, no, I think they've done a good job
of Keemos are in toe, so I'm very excited for that.
Let's see. Is there anything else they're conjuring last rites?
Obviously this is coming to an end. The tagline. I
just fucking love when they're like there's reason this was
their last one, and like, like I get it, it's
movies and everything like that, but I just remember the
first one felt like they're trying their best way to
like kind of use it a heidened sense of reality
where maybe some of the stuff happened, you know, they
claim it didn't, but I think even the Warrens were like, well,
that was like the worst one like we ever had.
Where now it's like apparently Warren just had multiple events
out there, just fucking fighting the demon at every turn.
But yeah, I got I should look up who's directing
this one. I thought it was somebody that was directed
to another one that I enjoyed, so, uh, yeah, the
first one to me is one of the greatest horror
movies all time. I think it's a fantastic like Haunted
House Possession movie number two was not the biggest fan
of three. I need to rewatch, so I know we
reviewed them in COVID Times, but I remember enjoying it,
but just I think there's some things that it felt, uh.
I remember the CGI being a big issue for us
where it just kind of took me out of it.
So it just felt like it was not as gritty
as that first one. So I don't think you can
recapture that because you know, James wan is a master. Yes,
this guy did the Chris Ala Rona and the none two.
Uh so and I liked those one. Those were billy
fuck those were better. I saw he did a Billie
Eilish music video, so that's where my brain was reading
it and then my mouth spat it out. So I
liked those two. Those two were better than you know,
some of the Oh and he did do Conjuring three. Okay,
he also did the Devil maybe do it? So now
I'm like a little less uh excited. So yeah, I'm
expecting this to be fine. I guess, like I guess,
unfortunate for me, Like I I guess I can just
expect it to be the second best, But I don't know.
I and this train was good enough. I liked the
designs though, of these demons and stuff, like they had
like a almost like begoul type of oil black stuff
around their faces, and they had smiles, but it wasn't
like smile smile like that horror movie. So yeah, I'm
I can't say I'm a get any more excited. I
will be there just because I love that verson And
honestly to you, I do love vieer for Meiga and
Patrick Wilson. I think they're great in the roles. They're
always fun. I think they were smart kind of showing
all the things again trying to tie together. And like
I said, this is not to me what's probably happened
in real life, but to say goodbye to these characters
that start a huge you know, cinemag universe for the
horror franchise. I'll see them out and this one i'll
probably see in theaters.
Speaker 3: Borring.
Speaker 1: Well, I actually I don't know if I will for it,
because I think that's one where I think you got
a trip or something like that, Yeah, you're gone. So
I don't know if I'll wait for reviews. If reviews
are good, then I'll go see it. If not, then
I'll probably just skit like we won't do a review
and I'll just talk about that on like what We've
been watching or After nine or something like that. So
what do you think about this trailer?
Speaker 3: Well, I just clicked the dots here, but I'll talk
about how I feel about the trailer first, where I
deep dive the trailer itself. I liked it a lot
more and has me more excited than how I felt
for conjuring the Devil made me do it. I think
that some of the visuals in this trailer CGI of
course could be a little bit more refined, but I
think it definitely has a little bit back to basics
kind of viewpoint. And when I say back to basics,
I don't mean back to how they're kind of like
scare you, but back to basics, like familiarity and what
we're kind of well versed and familiar with in this universe.
And I like that. I think that they were trying
some new things that I can really appreciate with the
way that baby doll was crawling and then it stops
and rolls over and like Exorcists, back up onto itself
and like starts floating, and when you just see like
the demon thing holding it, that's freaky.
Speaker 1: Reminded me of They even use the sound effect, but
when Lorraine did that like the music box on the
first one and something would like pop up, it reminded
me of that.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. So they're capitalizing on a few of those
notes and I like that, I really do. I'm I'm
a big fan of the Annabel movies. I think that
first one is rocky. Annabel created The Creation is fan fuckingtastic.
Speaker 2: That is such a good horror movie. It's so freaky.
Speaker 3: And then Annabel comes Home.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not as good as Creation Create.
Speaker 3: Creation is fucking terrifying. But Annabel comes home. They do
a lot of different things and it's just like it's
it's a heck of a sandbox when they're tackling everything
in the room of the Warren's house, and I really
really do like that, So it is it's definitely up there.
And yeah, the Nun too was a massive improvement over
the first Nun movie. Some of the things they did
in that sequel, I can't believe they actually did it.
It was it felt like there was nothing, nothing holding
back this this demon. It was terrifying. But uh, all
of these these cases that have been focused on with
the Warrens, uh like this this universe, like that first
Conjury movie that was that's definitely just it's really, really,
really good. They did that first movie so well the
second one. I do like the second one, but it's
more or less because that was our first first date
movie night with my now wife, so some nostalgia there.
But yeah, the third one was just kind of like
not hitting all the boxes. This one. I just when
I say I connected the dots, I realize that it's
based in the Smirl Haunting. The Smirl Haunting is something
that actually I tackled and crypto clues back in March.
I did a whole episode on it, and it was
there the Warrens played a part in it. I believe
the Warrens actually co authored a book with one of
the people that lived in the home or affected by
the demonic activity. But basically, in short, there's a family
and I'm gonna have to revisit my notes because I
don't remember a lot of what I had researched, but
it seems like the Smroll Haunting was this family that
moved into this home and they were tormented by demonic
activity for over ten years and they were dealing with
demonology about.
Speaker 1: The year one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well demonologists and would try to like not antagonize
but instigate and like try to get things like to happen,
and things just got worse. The press made a huge
scene about it, to the point where it was just
kind of looked at as like hoax and whatnot. But
there there were seen moments where I guess like their
dog was being thrown around in the air smashed against
the walls in this home, like people were the family
members being pushed downstairs, like tons of really really nasty
things that were happening against some very nasty physical things
that happened too, and so it just it sounds like
hell from what I had looked into. And when you
watch this trailer, you can see, Okay, obviously there's this
family that is in this home and there's some very
terrible things going on, but it's Hollywood, and Hollywood is
making this out to be much more bigger than what
this case really really was. And I hope that people
can look at these movies and take that with a
grain of salt and understand that it is I don't
want to say exaggerate, but Hollywood eyes, I.
Speaker 1: Think it's exaggerated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's the right word.
Speaker 3: Like then the demon possessed in that girl sitting in
the bathroom staying, We've been so patient waiting for you.
It's like, I'm, I'm, I wasn't there, So I don't
have an actual opinion, But dare I say I think
that that is not what happened in the original.
Speaker 1: Story, because that's the thing is, because the Warrens are
our main characters, I feel like they are always getting
them involved in these situations, right, that are like like that, Okay,
the Warrens are involved in these situations, don't get me wrong,
but they put it on them of being the main characters, right,
like I don't know what the like, you might know
better than me. Like in the first movie when there's
like the witch what was her name? Fucking god Waslga Vasheva?
When they go like there's that bone where Bashiba like
goes to their home, It's like, I don't know, have
they ever said that half or is that just something
in the movie where it's like because it's like sitting
there with the animal, all this stuff like oh yeah,
no one touches it all. I don't know, it is stuff.
I do think some of the stuff exaggera same thing,
Like all these movies are like, oh, based on this
case iah, Yeah was the nun ever? Like, has that
ever been said that was based on a true story?
Speaker 3: The none?
Speaker 1: I feel like that's like another one that's a step
far out. That's like this feels very movie eized.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and I was not directly based on a
single documented true event, but I'm not okay, yeah, sorry.
It looks like there are notes that the Warrens did
encounter a spectral Nun during some of their investigations of
a British appy in the nineteen seventies, which is looked
at as the influence of this.
Speaker 1: Okay, I will say, and that's where it is the influence, right,
I'm not saying something stuff happened. It's tough for me
on this situation about what to believe. That's a whole
bread and butter. You got cryptical snap, that's a whole
brand butter geek. First, It's like it's tough, right because
I'm somebody that I'm not a fool on, like, yeah,
there's in hell, but I'm not totally opposed there being
spirits and where it's like, okay, well if you believe
in spirits, I do not believe in that. So that's
why I was agnostic, because like, I'm open to many things. Well,
when there's like multiple photos of the family, they're just
kind of hanging out. But anytime you got family photos
back then, they're just like black and white. Just makes
it a lototle ten times scarier. But two not that you
have time to watch this, but I guess. In nineteen
ninety one, they made a TV movie called The Haunted
h It's when the Smirl family moves in the duplex,
they find out it's haunted. That's where I laughter, like what,
it's an ops. But they have people care at playing,
like Ad and Lorraine wore and everything like that. So yeah,
I guess that's been tough before. So but yes, I'll
watch it, give it a go, and see from there.
So