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<v Speaker 1>Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bulbo. These guys

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<v Speaker 1>are your favor It's so like say subscribe and rade

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<v Speaker 1>it five star.

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<v Speaker 2>S and.

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<v Speaker 1>Greatest on Yesterday listening watchy Lin always keep its watching.

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<v Speaker 3>And now you're hosts Cliff Barrickman and James Bubo Fay.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, everybody, welcome to Big Fing and Beyond with us

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<v Speaker 4>Cliff and Bubo and Matt. We're all lurking around here

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere in our various corners of the continents. How are

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<v Speaker 4>you doing, Bubo and Matt h Cliff. It's Cliff and

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<v Speaker 4>Bubbo and that and Matt parentheses Cliff and Bobo and

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<v Speaker 4>capital letters and Matt in all in all lower case.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just happy to be here, which is so funny

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<v Speaker 4>because like the show would be such garbage without you,

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<v Speaker 4>just like that, we owe everything to you, Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like recyclable. It's not pure garbage.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, this is like the worst kind of It

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<v Speaker 4>would be like human feces wrapped in plastic or something

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<v Speaker 4>like that, sent to the burn pile without Matt Pruitt.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys are doing me a service because it's really

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<v Speaker 3>hard to not talk for an hour being on a

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<v Speaker 3>call with you guys. So I did that for five years.

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<v Speaker 4>Bobo and I always talking when you're not in the

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<v Speaker 4>room about how you need to talk more.

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<v Speaker 3>You were missed at squadh Fest, Bobo. A lot a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people asked about you. We received a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of pigeon related gifts. There was a lot of pigeonry

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<v Speaker 3>going on, but lots of people were asking, like, is

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<v Speaker 3>Bobo here? Is Bobo here? Is he going to be here?

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<v Speaker 3>So you were definitely there in spirit. We should have

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<v Speaker 3>set up the life sized cardboard cutout with the iPad

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<v Speaker 3>and just had your FaceTime.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I got that, I still got I just remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where it is, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have it still. I had it till very recently. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I gave it away. I had that fold out thing

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<v Speaker 2>that made me the It's like a it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>stand like the Tripod stand, and there's like a seven

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<v Speaker 2>foot and a half seven half foot aluminum cheft comes up,

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<v Speaker 2>stands up out of it, and then attached is a

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<v Speaker 2>roll up thing of blow I s put up at

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<v Speaker 2>the of my picture at the conferences. It's like a

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<v Speaker 2>seven foot tall bows.

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<v Speaker 4>Like a window shade or something that he'd pull down,

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<v Speaker 4>but opposite it goes up. Yeah, we could have used that.

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<v Speaker 3>If we had that with a FaceTime thing, we could

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<v Speaker 3>have our own Robo Bobo.

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<v Speaker 4>Robo Bobo.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know the difference. That's a funny Thinker said.

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<v Speaker 4>No one will know the difference. Oh, he loves you.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you learn anything new?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I mean I didn't because I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 4>chance to see anybody else's presentation.

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<v Speaker 3>I learned what Cliff is like when he's seething inside.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that is he's indistinguishable from when he's happy

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<v Speaker 3>and at peace. The only members heard that story. Our

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<v Speaker 3>main listeners haven't heard that story.

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<v Speaker 4>Should we tell it now?

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<v Speaker 3>I think so because Bobo would get a kick out

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<v Speaker 3>of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, it's a check this out both. So in

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<v Speaker 4>the morning on Saturday, right before Squatch Fests, we decided, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Matt and I were saying at the same hotel.

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<v Speaker 4>Ken Gerhart was saying at the same hotel, and this

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<v Speaker 4>guy named Kevin, one of Matt's friends. I'd never met before,

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<v Speaker 4>but cool guy. I liked him a lot. So we

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<v Speaker 4>decide to go to Denny's or whatever in the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>in the parking lot before we head over to the venue.

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<v Speaker 4>We have to be there at nine, right, So I

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<v Speaker 4>figured eight o'clock. That's plenty of time. We'll be there early,

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<v Speaker 4>no problem at all. So we go over to Denny's

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<v Speaker 4>and we have we have a meal, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>then then on the way out, Matt was going to

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<v Speaker 4>pay for my meal, which is very very nice of him,

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<v Speaker 4>very very generous. Right, So I just kind of just

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<v Speaker 4>go out to the car. I'm going to go warm

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<v Speaker 4>up the car and get things going here, and so

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<v Speaker 4>it'll be nice and warm and cozy when those guys

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<v Speaker 4>hop in, and we'll all go to the venue together,

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<v Speaker 4>all four of us, right, And so I go over there.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in my car and I turn it on and

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<v Speaker 4>it's cold. It's like twenty something, twenty six or twenty

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<v Speaker 4>eight or something. It's cold, and it's icy. It's all

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<v Speaker 4>fogged in or not even fogged in. It's just like

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<v Speaker 4>ice over, you know. So we're kind of waiting for

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<v Speaker 4>everything to dethaught and all that sort of stuff, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm waiting for the guys to come out, and pretty

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<v Speaker 4>soon Ken and Matt come out and get in the car.

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<v Speaker 4>But Kevin's not there, and I figured out, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 4>probably need to use rescue or something. And a few

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<v Speaker 4>minutes later, still going and thinking, oh, you must have

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<v Speaker 4>to take a dump, right, So I'm like waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, he's getting around with you. I thought, oh, so

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't just right there, you can. Oh the venue

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, the venue wasn't right there. It was like a

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<v Speaker 4>six minute drive, you know. And we got up from

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<v Speaker 4>the table at like eight forty eight. So okay, we're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be right on time basically after I park and

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<v Speaker 4>all that sort of stuff. So okay, cool, Well, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 4>so I guess Kevin's taking a dump and I'm waiting,

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<v Speaker 4>and like pretty soon it's it's it's eight fifty five,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm thinking, oh, shoot, man, we're gonna be a

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<v Speaker 4>couple minutes late.

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<v Speaker 3>That sucks.

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<v Speaker 4>And then like waiting and stuff, and pretty soon it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's nine and I'm thinking, oh, man, he's making it's late.

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<v Speaker 4>What's up with that? He must be sick?

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>This sucks, you know, And then like nine oh five comes,

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<v Speaker 4>it comes and goes, and I'm just like going, what

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<v Speaker 4>the hell's up with this guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Irove off.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I would, I would, I was. I was pretty

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<v Speaker 4>I was getting real pissed because I don't like to

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<v Speaker 4>be late, you know, like I like it. It's one thing, Bobus,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're late and we're waiting for you, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>bother me anymore world friends. But if I'm late, that

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<v Speaker 4>pisses me off. Pisses me off, you know. Then I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 4>what the hell's wrong with this guy? You know, like that,

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<v Speaker 4>why am I Why am I being unprofessional now in

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<v Speaker 4>the eyes of the people who hired me to go

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<v Speaker 4>speak because of this guy's intestinal problems, And I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>like fuming, and it's building and building, you know, and

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm getting pissed. Man, I'm getting really pissed in Well,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I'll head it over to Matt. I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so uh, I guess Cliff didn't hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>But when we were getting in the vehicle, Kevin was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to drive my own car over to squatch Fest,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm just going to walk back to the hotel

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<v Speaker 3>from denny They're like, okay, that's cool. So we go

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<v Speaker 3>have breakfast at Denny's and then as I'm getting up

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<v Speaker 3>to pay. I didn't realize Cliff had already gone outside

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<v Speaker 3>to warm up the car, and Kevin reiterated, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>i'll see a squashfest. I'm going to walk back to

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<v Speaker 3>the hotel and get my car and drive it over there.

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<v Speaker 3>Like okay, cool man. So like Ken and I pay

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<v Speaker 3>our tabs, we go sit in the car and we're

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<v Speaker 3>just sitting there in silence, and Cliff's kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>half smiling, just staring straight ahead, and I'm watching the

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<v Speaker 3>ice melt off his windows, and I'm looking around and

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<v Speaker 3>like the ice kind of melts. I was like, after

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<v Speaker 3>a few minutes, like Cliff said, I keep looking at

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<v Speaker 3>the clock and inching closer than nine. And I finally

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<v Speaker 3>was like, hey man, I think the windows are pretty clear,

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<v Speaker 3>and Clips like, oh, yeah, they're clear. I can see.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, cool. So we'll wait a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of minutes. So I'm like, oh, he's waiting on something else.

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<v Speaker 3>So I look out the back and it's a little

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<v Speaker 3>opaque looking, so I was like, oh, are you waiting

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<v Speaker 3>on the back to d ice, He's like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's not icy. That's just a little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>dust that the sunlight's hitting that's why it looks. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, okay, He's like, yeah, I'm cool to drive.

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<v Speaker 3>So I look back down to get it. I keep

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<v Speaker 3>looking at Cliff. He's just kind of smiling, staring straight ahead, calmly.

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<v Speaker 3>And finally I was like, so, what are we waiting on?

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<v Speaker 3>And he was like, I'm waiting on your friend, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been waiting on him this whole time, and so

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<v Speaker 3>Ken and I were like, oh, dude, he walked back

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<v Speaker 3>to the hotel like fifteen minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 4>So I got all bent out of shape and all

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<v Speaker 4>tighten and not over nothing. Man, it took me like

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<v Speaker 4>half hour to release all that stress.

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<v Speaker 2>I lost it.

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<v Speaker 3>Kin was like, I wondered, what the hell you're waiting on?

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<v Speaker 3>So we were all just three sitting in silent peace,

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<v Speaker 3>wondering why we were late. For fifteen minutes of limited

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<v Speaker 3>separate realities. Ken and I were the frogs in the

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<v Speaker 3>boiling pot of cliffs Anger.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because it's not easy to make me mad, but

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<v Speaker 4>when I'm mad, I stay mad. Like you know, when

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<v Speaker 4>I'm happy, I stay happy. It takes a long time

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<v Speaker 4>for me to get anywhere, and by the time I'm there, gosh, darted,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to stay there. So it took me like

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<v Speaker 4>a half hour for me to like let all that

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<v Speaker 3>It was pretty hilarious because, like I said, you would

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<v Speaker 3>never if you just looked at Cliff, you would have

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<v Speaker 3>think he was just like peaceful and happy. I thought, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>he's just a really conscientious driver. He just does not

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<v Speaker 3>want to drive this two miles with any ice on

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<v Speaker 3>the windows.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the barometric press pressure was off. There's no way

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<v Speaker 4>I could drive in this situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly. It was a good time though. We had a

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<v Speaker 3>good time. You were very missed. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>asked about you. Our good friend Wes Germer. We went

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<v Speaker 3>hung out with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I was gonna say. I know.

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<v Speaker 4>Wes was gone twice really because Matt Prude did the

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<v Speaker 4>event at the museum on Thursday, and West showed up

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<v Speaker 4>right before Matt spoke and had him over at the house.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a little fire or whatever. And of course

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if Wes listens all the time, but

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<v Speaker 4>of course Wes fell in love with Sochi my dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's what he said. I heard his podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh really, Oh that's what he talked about her.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, now he refers to Sochi as his dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you should give it to her now, she's like

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<v Speaker 2>full of vet bills.

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so Chi.

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<v Speaker 4>I belonged to soci more than she belongs to me.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a fan who brought us some pretty rad

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<v Speaker 3>little wind up pigeon toys. So now your sculpted Bobo, haad,

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<v Speaker 3>your representation in the museum has a pigeon on its shoulder, Bobo.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh awesome. Ye I was at a flock of the

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<v Speaker 2>pigeons this last week and yeah, I know you guys

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<v Speaker 2>know that we have the same thing to the audience hip.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, my dad, Fireball passed away, and so we

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<v Speaker 2>had his memorial celebration of life on Saturday. How was that, man, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Barton and the Yams were there. They can kill you

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<v Speaker 2>in on it. It was pretty awesome. It was. We got

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<v Speaker 2>about fifty comments and notes and cards saying I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like I should have paid for a stand up comedy

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<v Speaker 2>show ticket for that because everyone was telling Fireball stories.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's good. How's your mom doing.

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<v Speaker 2>She's taking it tough, but she's you know, she's got

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<v Speaker 4>I love me some Alice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot she's getting a lot of love

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people stopping by, like there was

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<v Speaker 2>tons of food getting dropped off as usual, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, And of course you know we've kind of

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>And so now that everybody knows what the reason was,

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<v Speaker 4>I hope all the people who tried to make you

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<v Speaker 4>feel guilty about it feel like crap?

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<v Speaker 2>Did people try to make you feel guilty? I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>Here's Bobo. How come he's done bib blah blah. That's

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<v Speaker 4>not the same did you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, go suck it now, you know. Hope you feel bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we didn't say anything, did he want? You know,

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<v Speaker 3>when people are asking where you were and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Bobo had obligations, So now they'll they'll understand.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do encourage people because you know, I hadn't

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<v Speaker 3>seen all the old Finding Bigfoot episodes and so not

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<v Speaker 3>that long ago, maybe two or three weeks ago, Emily

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<v Speaker 3>and I watched the Bulbo's Backyard episode, so we could

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<v Speaker 3>see Bart and heavy Metal Pat and obviously Fireballs in

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<v Speaker 3>that episode, So people should definitely go watch that. I

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<v Speaker 3>loved getting to see that after all these years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, but he was he

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<v Speaker 2>had just slowed down that point. It just had like

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<v Speaker 2>he was probably geez like seventy eight seventy nine when

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<v Speaker 2>Before that, he was rocking hard.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some amazing baby photos of you in that episode

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<v Speaker 3>two bro, when.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm super fat. That one where I'm holding a little ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it's like a black and white one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, that's my pride and joy. You should be proud.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an epic photo.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom won like a case of diapers. I was

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<v Speaker 2>look at that photo, you also understand the story about

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<v Speaker 2>when I was two years old, I got my first haircut.

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<v Speaker 2>Can never give me a haircut because I was just

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<v Speaker 2>so like just screaming and kicking and like just going crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>They couldn't hold me down. I get a haircut. Then

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<v Speaker 2>my mom realized that she just kept sticking Eminem's in

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<v Speaker 2>my mouth. I sit still so they could cut my hair.

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<v Speaker 2>And she took me to the barber and she went

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<v Speaker 2>through a pound of Eminems and they were like over

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<v Speaker 2>halfway down at the haircut. Then they had to she

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<v Speaker 2>had to stop and run down to the store and

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<v Speaker 2>get another pound of Eminems and bring them back and

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<v Speaker 2>keep shoving into my mouth so I could finish the haircut.

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<v Speaker 2>So that photo makes a lot more sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Then now we know how to deal with can't take

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<v Speaker 3>ris Bobo in the future.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, we never record in the same room. If

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<v Speaker 4>only we did, I'd have Eminem's on hand all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you've got an inside woman, You've got contacts with Krita,

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<v Speaker 3>so you could bet Karita have a pound of Eminem's

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of which, you know, like, as we're recording this,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like the last week of January. Are we are

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<v Speaker 4>we doing the women Folk on the podcast for Valentine's

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<v Speaker 4>Day this year?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we do, so that Thursday, I think is the thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 3>the day before Valentine's Day, So that'll be a special

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<v Speaker 3>members on the episode that will come out on that Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>And so members will get a chance to ask questions

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<v Speaker 3>of the significant others for the second year in a row.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that's cool. Now do we hang out or we

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<v Speaker 4>just like let them loose and then this prey.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we got to correct them all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>A quorum is two out of three of us, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>So for those of you who are non members, what

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<v Speaker 3>we did last time is like each of us sat

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<v Speaker 3>with the significant other like around one microphone each. So

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<v Speaker 3>Cliff and Melissa were at Cliffs Bobo and Create at Bobo's,

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<v Speaker 3>and Emily and I at my house. So and I

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<v Speaker 3>had all the questions submitted blind, you know, so I

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<v Speaker 3>would pop them in the chat and then we'd go

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<v Speaker 3>around the table as members were asking questions of the

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<v Speaker 3>significant others. You know, every question was for all three,

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<v Speaker 3>like what's the most endearing thing about your man? What's

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<v Speaker 3>the most embarrassing thing your man does? And it was

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<v Speaker 3>quite hilarious. So if you want to hear that old

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<v Speaker 3>episode or hear the upcoming one and maybe get your

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<v Speaker 3>question asked, sign up for five dollars a month, folks, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, how much brother? They asked. All the regular questions

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<v Speaker 2>got asked already. No.

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<v Speaker 3>I think when people hear, especially some of your stories,

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<v Speaker 3>every one of your stories generates like a new five

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<v Speaker 3>hundred questions.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with

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<v Speaker 4>Cliff and Bobo will be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was thinking that because my brother was

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<v Speaker 2>telling some two forty was telling stories that, uh, you're

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<v Speaker 2>just giving the eulogy at my dad's deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Is your brother's name?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I've known you for how long? And I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>I've ever known that your brother's name is two forty,

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<v Speaker 4>although I have to admit I don't know what your

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<v Speaker 2>Four.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, I mean your dad's name is Fireball too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>so I guess it makes sense. So why is his

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<v Speaker 4>name two forty?

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<v Speaker 2>In high school he weighed two hundred and forty pounds.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, I guess all right? Sure, anyway, two forty

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<v Speaker 4>he was at the eulogy.

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<v Speaker 2>He told a couple of stories that I forgot I

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<v Speaker 2>was even involved in, probably for the best. Yeah. One

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<v Speaker 2>involved uh filonious act, no charges pressed, allegedly, No, it

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<v Speaker 2>was you know, I was thinking, like, for the next

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<v Speaker 2>Bobo storytell I could have him do that one.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be good if there's anyone to share now,

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<v Speaker 3>because it has been a long time since we've done

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<v Speaker 3>a Bobo storytime. People ask about it on a regular

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<v Speaker 3>basis way gather around. It's Boomo story, Dude. He's going

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<v Speaker 3>to see some things that all Boo classic. Anc He's flying,

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<v Speaker 3>He's going a kid kill me high.

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<v Speaker 2>For your once again Boobo story.

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<v Speaker 3>Any description of felonious or criminal activity is being told

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<v Speaker 3>here strictly for entertainment purposes, and is in no way

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<v Speaker 3>admission of guilt or even true for that matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Our friend, our buddy Dredd dread Tread in forty, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was. His mom was super sweet. She actually just

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<v Speaker 2>passed away last week. He's my buddy Dread that works

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<v Speaker 2>for Little Lakers. But anyways, we were in Palm Springs

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<v Speaker 2>and we were like the other, like my older brother,

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<v Speaker 2>and all the older kids were like old enough to

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, I remember there was an eighth forty

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<v Speaker 2>was an eighth grade. I was a sophomore and our

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<v Speaker 2>Dread's mom, missus Kelly, rented us a golf cart to

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<v Speaker 2>go out and play golf, and we didn't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to golf, so we just went out there and just

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, yeah about the fourth hole. There was no

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<v Speaker 2>roof on the cart because Bill would rolled it twice.

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<v Speaker 2>And then at the end we came walking back like

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<v Speaker 2>an hour late, hour and a half late because I

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<v Speaker 2>was driving crazy and I drove it into I crashed

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<v Speaker 2>into the creek and the cart ended up two feet underwater,

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<v Speaker 2>and like you know, the electrons goot fly Friday was

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<v Speaker 2>elect electric cart and and then forty those guys like

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<v Speaker 2>we're busted. I was like, no, we're not. We're we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to sue these guys for faulty breaks and a

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<v Speaker 2>defective cart. Thing's a piece of crap. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>went down there and I was yelling about how we

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<v Speaker 2>were suing and all this stuff, and missus Kelly didn't

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<v Speaker 2>find out about it. Nothing like no charge on our

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<v Speaker 2>credit card, nothing like, we never heard anything more about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it should have been like, well, I crashed it

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<v Speaker 2>off the off the course too, so it could have

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<v Speaker 2>been like a theft and destruction charge over over thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>As a philony that was like a five thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Card that was just a harbinger of things to come

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<v Speaker 3>with your rental question.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one of the things that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>probably don't know about your dad, Fireball, is that he

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<v Speaker 4>would take kind of like ne'er do wells, like kids

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<v Speaker 4>in the juvenile justice system and all that sort of

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<v Speaker 4>stuff on, like work patrols and like kind of set

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<v Speaker 4>him straight out of like tough love and stuff. And

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<v Speaker 4>he was this this this well of unending tough love

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<v Speaker 4>for people much like you, like these nerdy Wells out

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<v Speaker 4>now doing stuff. And it sometimes it occurs to me

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<v Speaker 4>that if you were caught or prosecuted or any you

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<v Speaker 4>had some sort of legal consequence for any of these

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<v Speaker 4>dozens and dozens and dozens of actions that you took,

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<v Speaker 4>you'd have just ended up with your dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, no, you won't. I'll kill it before you make

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<v Speaker 2>it that far.

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<v Speaker 4>That's your dad's voice. I know that's that's you're doing

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<v Speaker 4>your dad's voice there, right.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a scared it up that that happened. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he had the worst kids in La County.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, do mean you in ten forty or whatever your

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, the camp like it was like the worst

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty kids in La County on that

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<v Speaker 2>were like murderers and all this stuff, but they weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't. They hadn't got for something bad enough. They

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<v Speaker 2>committed the same crimes as the kids in Cy. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Youth Authority which is the prison system of youths

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<v Speaker 2>in California, which is like super and they say the

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<v Speaker 2>way deadlier and way and earlier than regular like even

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<v Speaker 2>like San Quentin and stuff. But he had like kids

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<v Speaker 2>like equivalent of that, and they were unarmed camp They

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<v Speaker 2>only had like like you know, maybe seven or eight

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<v Speaker 2>staff members working in like one hundred and fifty you know,

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<v Speaker 2>gang bangers and whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>So the staff was unarmed, but the clients probably weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>So they had fireball was classic d he'd it was

423
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<v Speaker 2>up in the mountains and they're almost all almost all

424
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<v Speaker 2>were inner city kids, like U. Seventy of them never

425
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<v Speaker 2>even been to the beach. They lived in La County.

426
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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, he would show them, like he had a

427
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<v Speaker 2>VCR tape of like national geographic like crocodiles snatching buffaloes

428
00:18:48.160 --> 00:18:51.559
<v Speaker 2>and grizzly bears tearing up moose and stuff like that.

429
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<v Speaker 2>He'd show it to the new kids and be like

430
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<v Speaker 2>if you get out of here at night. This is

431
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<v Speaker 2>what's gonna get if you had down this. If you

432
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<v Speaker 2>guys stick, there's no fences up in the mountains. Whip

433
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<v Speaker 2>in the mountains like seventy five hundred feet elevation, and

434
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<v Speaker 2>so they get snow and stuff, and they'd get black

435
00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:05.599
<v Speaker 2>bears would come in all the time, and they'd leave

436
00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:08.440
<v Speaker 2>a little garbage oop by the dumpsters. So the bears

437
00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:10.720
<v Speaker 2>would come in because it would scare the crap out

438
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<v Speaker 2>of the kids. They wouldn't run away. They had like

439
00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:16.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe three attempt to skate escape attempts in like twenty

440
00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:20.079
<v Speaker 2>something years he was there, twenty five years whatever, and

441
00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:23.119
<v Speaker 2>none of them, none of them made it. But yeah, fireballs.

442
00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:25.839
<v Speaker 2>And then he'd play basketball at the ball and they

443
00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:28.960
<v Speaker 2>loved him, like because we asked him, We say, fire Ball,

444
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<v Speaker 2>aren't you worried about these kids? Like, aren't you worried

445
00:19:31.480 --> 00:19:34.279
<v Speaker 2>with them? Like you guys throat and you sleep, and

446
00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:37.319
<v Speaker 2>he is, there's a riot. I'll be fine. They'll bring

447
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<v Speaker 2>me a book in a chair and a blanket. Told

448
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<v Speaker 2>me to kick back while they get the rest of

449
00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.200
<v Speaker 2>these guys. Because he wasn't worried about what he was

450
00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:46.400
<v Speaker 2>but once we were at the Forum. This was like

451
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<v Speaker 2>when the Lakers were like, you know, the greatest whatever

452
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<v Speaker 2>showtime Lakers, like in the late eighties. It's probably like

453
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<v Speaker 2>eighty eight, probably eighty seven, eighty eight. And we were

454
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<v Speaker 2>walking through the concourse with my dad. He always was

455
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<v Speaker 2>a little IRUs, not nervous, but he'd always keep his

456
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<v Speaker 2>eye when we were like in situations like Dodger Stadium

457
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<v Speaker 2>or something like that where we might see people from

458
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<v Speaker 2>his kids, from his work, and uh, we're walking through

459
00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:14.799
<v Speaker 2>and here comes like these ten twelve bloods and there's

460
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<v Speaker 2>these dudes and this one guy in front of it,

461
00:20:16.559 --> 00:20:19.440
<v Speaker 2>like mister Peanut, Like he had a giant top hat on.

462
00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:23.119
<v Speaker 2>He had a golden crusted cane, and they were all

463
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<v Speaker 2>wearing like Laker warm up suits, like you know, like

464
00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:29.519
<v Speaker 2>the like the official team ones. And uh and he

465
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<v Speaker 2>had a Laker's warm jersey warm up suit fashioned into

466
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<v Speaker 2>a custom tuxedo, and so a couple of other guys

467
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<v Speaker 2>then they had like you know, diamond and gold bracelets

468
00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:44.039
<v Speaker 2>and you know, red rags tied around their head, you know,

469
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<v Speaker 2>like like mixed it with like you know, their blood,

470
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<v Speaker 2>you know, signs. And we were walking and Farmer goes, oh,

471
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<v Speaker 2>you guys. Keep He's kind of like, you know, I

472
00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:57.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of hesitated for something. Also here, mister Faye, mister Fay.

473
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<v Speaker 2>They come running up. They're like, you know, hugging in

474
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<v Speaker 2>and like doing like those handslap you know, hellos, like

475
00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:05.920
<v Speaker 2>like some weird form of patty cakes, you know, like backhands,

476
00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:09.079
<v Speaker 2>slap it and up high, down low and snapping fingers,

477
00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:11.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, like that whole thing. Fire Ball do all

478
00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:14.279
<v Speaker 2>that stuff, and they're just going, oh man, this is

479
00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:16.240
<v Speaker 2>your signs is your sons. He goes, yeah, this is

480
00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:19.440
<v Speaker 2>my boys, and and they're all yoh man, like they're

481
00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:22.160
<v Speaker 2>hugging us and saying like, what's up. And then they

482
00:21:22.279 --> 00:21:25.839
<v Speaker 2>emphasize several times anyone ever asked your family, anyone ever

483
00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:28.720
<v Speaker 2>asked us faith you let us know, will kill them.

484
00:21:28.799 --> 00:21:31.400
<v Speaker 2>We'll kill them anyone messes with him or like I

485
00:21:31.440 --> 00:21:34.640
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, good to know, good to know, thanks guys. Yeah.

486
00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:37.319
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that was just like one of the Fireball

487
00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Fireball deals.

488
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<v Speaker 4>Fireball is the best man, like like a god amongst men.

489
00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:43.440
<v Speaker 2>He was.

490
00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:46.960
<v Speaker 4>He really was, He really was. You know those times

491
00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:48.880
<v Speaker 4>I've had to just hanging out with them, and he

492
00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:50.839
<v Speaker 4>came out of the road. I don't remember where we were,

493
00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:53.319
<v Speaker 4>but I remember hanging out with him for hours in

494
00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:56.200
<v Speaker 4>like the the lobby of the Big Bear. Big Bear,

495
00:21:56.279 --> 00:21:57.680
<v Speaker 4>Is that where it was. I guess it makes sense.

496
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<v Speaker 4>It were dripping up or something. The best man. Love

497
00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:00.920
<v Speaker 4>that guy.

498
00:22:01.119 --> 00:22:01.880
<v Speaker 3>Just love them.

499
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<v Speaker 4>So, Bobo, do you think that dealing with troubled youth,

500
00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:09.720
<v Speaker 4>you know, like the youth that are in trouble with

501
00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:12.759
<v Speaker 4>the law and kind of ne'er do wells, Which I

502
00:22:13.319 --> 00:22:15.240
<v Speaker 4>don't say that is a bad thing, by the way,

503
00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:17.039
<v Speaker 4>because the bad kids in my class were always my

504
00:22:17.079 --> 00:22:19.039
<v Speaker 4>faves in a lot of ways when I was a teacher.

505
00:22:19.240 --> 00:22:22.640
<v Speaker 4>But do you think that dealing with them helped him

506
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:25.920
<v Speaker 4>raise you? Or do you think that raising you helped

507
00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:27.279
<v Speaker 4>him deal with them?

508
00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, he was dealing with those guys before we were born.

509
00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:32.160
<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, So he just kind of sculpted you into

510
00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:32.880
<v Speaker 4>one of them.

511
00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:35.440
<v Speaker 3>See. I think it's like natural selection, you know, where

512
00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:38.920
<v Speaker 3>the environment shapes the animals that evolve in it. So

513
00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:43.720
<v Speaker 3>I think because Bobo was he evolved in an environment

514
00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:46.039
<v Speaker 3>with like a hyper vigilant person who knew how to

515
00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:49.000
<v Speaker 3>deal with troubled youth. Bobo's evolution was like to be

516
00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:53.519
<v Speaker 3>undetectably like Boba is like a more advanced life form

517
00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:55.960
<v Speaker 3>of wild man, you know what I mean, because he

518
00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:57.880
<v Speaker 3>already had watchful eyes on him, so he had to

519
00:22:57.880 --> 00:23:00.799
<v Speaker 3>be more cautious. You're like, what of those bugs that

520
00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:03.839
<v Speaker 3>evolved to look like a leaf so other things wouldn't eat?

521
00:23:04.599 --> 00:23:05.720
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm trying to say.

522
00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good funt for good point.

523
00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:12.279
<v Speaker 4>A lot of people say that Bobo's like one of

524
00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:14.160
<v Speaker 4>those bugs had evolved to look like a leaf.

525
00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:16.440
<v Speaker 2>If I had a nickel for a time, I heard that.

526
00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:20.759
<v Speaker 4>You'd have like three bucks, which is pretty good if

527
00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:22.720
<v Speaker 4>you're if your if your currency is nickels.

528
00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:26.519
<v Speaker 3>So you did get whooped a lot, so you fireball

529
00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:27.799
<v Speaker 3>call you a few times?

530
00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh dude, all the time. Not all the time, but

531
00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:30.799
<v Speaker 2>a lot.

532
00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:34.079
<v Speaker 3>What was the what was the worst whooping? You think?

533
00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:36.359
<v Speaker 3>What was the thing that he was like, Okay, this

534
00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:39.160
<v Speaker 3>can't slide. That might be a good Bobo story time.

535
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<v Speaker 2>When I got kicked out of Catholic school in seventh grade.

536
00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:44.319
<v Speaker 3>See, I haven't even heard that story.

537
00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I got the wooden spoon. We were sitting in class

538
00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:51.240
<v Speaker 2>and I love books, you know, but we were on

539
00:23:51.279 --> 00:23:56.200
<v Speaker 2>the second floor and uh, I forget what brought it on.

540
00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:00.119
<v Speaker 2>But I was just like, there's like a cyclopeda is

541
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<v Speaker 2>there and I love the encycle the video, but I

542
00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:03.279
<v Speaker 2>just sit there. I was like about the window, it

543
00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:05.319
<v Speaker 2>is like a nice sunny day. And then none was

544
00:24:05.359 --> 00:24:07.240
<v Speaker 2>turned around writing on the board. I just took a

545
00:24:07.400 --> 00:24:10.519
<v Speaker 2>secondpedia to throw it out the window, and there's like

546
00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:12.400
<v Speaker 2>this flopping sound, you know, and she turned around and

547
00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:14.960
<v Speaker 2>then a snack when it hit the cement down below,

548
00:24:15.920 --> 00:24:17.839
<v Speaker 2>and so I kept doing that. I ended up throwing

549
00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:20.640
<v Speaker 2>like thirty thirty five books out the window. Yeah, so

550
00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:24.519
<v Speaker 2>there was a pile down below. Then the janitor was like,

551
00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:26.359
<v Speaker 2>what the hell? We heard it done below? What the hell?

552
00:24:26.720 --> 00:24:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Because one came down when he was downe and almost

553
00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:32.559
<v Speaker 2>hit him. So I got kicked out and then the

554
00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Headnne sister of Gloria, booted me. And my mom was

555
00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:38.400
<v Speaker 2>the fifth grade teacher there, so she was fortified. My

556
00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:40.359
<v Speaker 2>dad had to come from take off work and come

557
00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:42.119
<v Speaker 2>get me, and he was whenever he had to come

558
00:24:42.119 --> 00:24:45.160
<v Speaker 2>if we got suspended or I got suspended, since my

559
00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:48.240
<v Speaker 2>brothers never did. That was like the word like you

560
00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:50.640
<v Speaker 2>knew you were going to get your ass beat with

561
00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:51.599
<v Speaker 2>the wooden spoon.

562
00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:54.720
<v Speaker 4>The spoon's the worst man. I'd rather have a belt

563
00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:55.240
<v Speaker 4>than a spoon.

564
00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah. So then the compromise he made for me

565
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<v Speaker 2>to go back to schools that that was the the

566
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:02.000
<v Speaker 2>end of the year. It was like September. I had

567
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<v Speaker 2>to sit in a supply room the whole seventh grade year.

568
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<v Speaker 2>They've made in the supply room closet. It's a big room.

569
00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't really a closet. It was like out the size

570
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<v Speaker 2>of a classroom. And some of the dads that were

571
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<v Speaker 2>contractors when they remodeled the school that had end of

572
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:22.160
<v Speaker 2>the school, they it was the principal's office, and they

573
00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:24.279
<v Speaker 2>split the principal's office in half and made half the

574
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<v Speaker 2>supply room. But they they framed the whole thing out

575
00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:30.559
<v Speaker 2>and put in like all the ducting and electrical and

576
00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:33.920
<v Speaker 2>piping and all that before they measured the doorway, and

577
00:25:34.079 --> 00:25:36.880
<v Speaker 2>so her big principal's desk couldn't fit through, so it

578
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:40.119
<v Speaker 2>was in a supply room closet. So that became my id.

579
00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:41.799
<v Speaker 2>They gave me a little desk, so I just instantly

580
00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:44.200
<v Speaker 2>switched out to make my desk. So I sent this

581
00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:46.960
<v Speaker 2>whole semester in the supply room. I had a copy

582
00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:49.839
<v Speaker 2>machine in there. I was copying off ice cream tickets

583
00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:55.000
<v Speaker 2>for we got for lunch, been selling them for a dime.

584
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:58.400
<v Speaker 2>I was selling liquid paper bottles like a quarter. And

585
00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:01.200
<v Speaker 2>then I had boxes and boxes of paper clips and

586
00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:03.480
<v Speaker 2>rubber bands and stuff, and I was we'd always do

587
00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:05.200
<v Speaker 2>those paper clip fights, you know, th rubber bands when

588
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:06.400
<v Speaker 2>you cut them and you break them in half and

589
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:08.680
<v Speaker 2>make them like little v's and you so I Coo

590
00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:11.359
<v Speaker 2>would be walking through the hallways and snipe out him

591
00:26:11.400 --> 00:26:13.759
<v Speaker 2>like everyone everyone remembers that, walking out of the hallway

592
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:16.480
<v Speaker 2>and snap like all of sudden, getting whizzed by a

593
00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:20.000
<v Speaker 2>half paper clip. You know it's done. And so yeah,

594
00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I was in the supply room for a whole year,

595
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:24.359
<v Speaker 2>and I had a TV in there, I'd plug in.

596
00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:26.680
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't sound like much of a punishment, honestly.

597
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:27.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

598
00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:31.640
<v Speaker 3>Only Bobo can turn solitary confinement into like a business opportunity.

599
00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:35.720
<v Speaker 4>An opportunity to do more mischief.

600
00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:38.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But then I was grounded that whole time too.

601
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:41.359
<v Speaker 2>I didn't go to the beach once that summer.

602
00:26:41.400 --> 00:26:43.920
<v Speaker 3>And that was seventh grade, So you clearly stopped your

603
00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:46.079
<v Speaker 3>antics after that point, right, I.

604
00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:48.319
<v Speaker 4>Learned my lessons scared straight man.

605
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:50.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's all straight and narrow from then on out.

606
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I thought you might jump into the the old locomotive

607
00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:00.880
<v Speaker 2>of the I showed the pit, the scene, old locomotive,

608
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:03.480
<v Speaker 2>the locomotion, the abulation.

609
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:06.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh you want to talk about that? Yeah, because theoretically

610
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 4>this is kind of a topical episode. Even though those

611
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:10.960
<v Speaker 4>kind of news to all of us, including all of

612
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.720
<v Speaker 4>all three of us around the table here, this is

613
00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:16.000
<v Speaker 4>a topical episode where you know, Cliff and Bobo and

614
00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:18.599
<v Speaker 4>Matt hangout and talk about various news items that caught

615
00:27:18.599 --> 00:27:22.359
<v Speaker 4>over attention over the last say month or something like that. Altho,

616
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:24.119
<v Speaker 4>we've been doing these a little bit more frequently, like

617
00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:26.160
<v Speaker 4>every six weeks or so. Is that about right?

618
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I say that's about right, because you know, in

619
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.680
<v Speaker 3>the beginning, we were just kind of loosely paying attention

620
00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:32.559
<v Speaker 3>to when articles would come in and we'd pop one

621
00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:34.720
<v Speaker 3>or two over, and so it would take a while

622
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.079
<v Speaker 3>from them to accumulate. But lately it's like, you know,

623
00:27:37.240 --> 00:27:40.279
<v Speaker 3>every month, we've got like eight or ten or twelve,

624
00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:43.559
<v Speaker 3>depending on you know, how many news items pop up.

625
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:46.079
<v Speaker 3>So it's been more frequent just to cover everything.

626
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.279
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't mind a bit because you know, I'd

627
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:50.920
<v Speaker 4>read the news pretty much every day, and you know,

628
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:54.279
<v Speaker 4>I like the paleoanthropological stuff to kind of pull my

629
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:57.799
<v Speaker 4>head away from the nonsensical politics crap that's out there,

630
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<v Speaker 4>and you know, the division and this guy's a bad guy,

631
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.400
<v Speaker 4>and that's on your side and this my side, that side,

632
00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:07.480
<v Speaker 4>whatever politics, man, anybody, you know what, if you believe

633
00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:09.920
<v Speaker 4>in either side, they've already got you. You've already lost

634
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:13.640
<v Speaker 4>up theirs up ours. So yeah, so whenever we can

635
00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:15.519
<v Speaker 4>take a look at the news and look at some

636
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:18.759
<v Speaker 4>good things, you know, Australia Pittes scenes or this fossil

637
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.240
<v Speaker 4>find or that fossil find or this sort of ecological study,

638
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:24.480
<v Speaker 4>it's a good it's a good day. So we have

639
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:26.200
<v Speaker 4>a couple of those right now, and Boba, do you

640
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:28.519
<v Speaker 4>want to go? Do you want to start with the

641
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:31.319
<v Speaker 4>australa Pittes scenes weren't good runners? Is that what you're saying?

642
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that sounds it was pretty cool to who wasn't

643
00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:38.319
<v Speaker 2>those guys, just as there was recent study. But the

644
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:42.759
<v Speaker 2>Australia pithic is at forensis, which was Lucy, the famous Lucy.

645
00:28:43.359 --> 00:28:46.880
<v Speaker 2>They think with these new modern three D bottling techniques

646
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:50.640
<v Speaker 2>and Musco skeletal simulations. They're able to explore how Lucy's

647
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 2>body moved. They've uncovered new critical details about the evolution

648
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:57.519
<v Speaker 2>of human running. And surprisingly, we always thought they must

649
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.920
<v Speaker 2>be good runners because they were so bustle bound, but

650
00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:03.759
<v Speaker 2>they really weren't there. They were slower. So guess their

651
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:08.559
<v Speaker 2>top speed was approximately eleven miles an hour, significantly slower

652
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:09.359
<v Speaker 2>than we are.

653
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.119
<v Speaker 4>Well speak for yourself, bobus, you're very, very fast.

654
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Speaker 3>I've seen Bobo do multiple takes running in front of

655
00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 3>a car going fifty five miles an hour and outrun

656
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:19.680
<v Speaker 3>it every time, so I can attest to this.

657
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 4>Bobo is astonishingly fast, even like when you know when

658
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:26.160
<v Speaker 4>an age was creeping up on us, and I remember

659
00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:28.519
<v Speaker 4>several times like then, you don't know this. You don't

660
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:30.920
<v Speaker 4>know this, Bobo, but a couple of times when you

661
00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:32.720
<v Speaker 4>had to go do things and like I was hanging

662
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:34.759
<v Speaker 4>out with Hammel or whatever while you were doing various

663
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:36.839
<v Speaker 4>takes of things with Dana. They either are camera people

664
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:40.279
<v Speaker 4>and funny bag. But several times, now, kid you not, Chad.

665
00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:43.119
<v Speaker 4>Chad turned to me and said, holy crap, he's really fast.

666
00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:45.160
<v Speaker 4>I said, yeah, it's the bows Man.

667
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:47.599
<v Speaker 3>When we were filming that scene, I remember one of

668
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:49.799
<v Speaker 3>the Ping Pong people telling me they were like, dude,

669
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:52.160
<v Speaker 3>this is like not even stunt guys do this. They

670
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.200
<v Speaker 3>were like, this is his super qualified stunt work. And

671
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:57.839
<v Speaker 3>if this was a union shoot or whatever, there's no

672
00:29:57.920 --> 00:29:59.240
<v Speaker 3>way they would let this happen.

673
00:30:00.559 --> 00:30:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I was heard about logging boots and it was darker

674
00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:06.799
<v Speaker 2>and Dae driving and Rendee driving. That's the scape righterst

675
00:30:06.799 --> 00:30:09.160
<v Speaker 2>we just do. That was before we do. Renee wasn't

676
00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:11.519
<v Speaker 2>was like a terrible driver before she had those crashes.

677
00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:14.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but we knew Matt. We knew Matt was a driver.

678
00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:16.799
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to say a terrible driver, because he's not.

679
00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:18.079
<v Speaker 2>He's awesome.

680
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:23.240
<v Speaker 4>Matt Moneymaker is a very good driver. He rarely hits

681
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:25.799
<v Speaker 4>anything and and and you know there's that thing in

682
00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:28.119
<v Speaker 4>the UK episode where he clips something and we don't

683
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:30.559
<v Speaker 4>know what it was and all that stuff. But yeah,

684
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.079
<v Speaker 4>so we didn't want Matt to drive. We figured, ouh, Renee,

685
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 4>she'll be conservative like now, We just didn't know any

686
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:40.559
<v Speaker 4>better at the time. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and

687
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.359
<v Speaker 4>Beyond with Cliff and Bogo. We'll be right back after

688
00:30:43.400 --> 00:30:51.640
<v Speaker 4>these messages. Okay, well anyway, but back to the article

689
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:55.960
<v Speaker 4>at least. Yeah, so apparently Lucy, remember now Lucy and

690
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.359
<v Speaker 4>Australio Pithecus af forensis, which is what Lucy was, They

691
00:30:59.359 --> 00:31:01.720
<v Speaker 4>were tiny. They were like three or four feet tall,

692
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:05.440
<v Speaker 4>so eleven miles per hour for a you know, a

693
00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:09.200
<v Speaker 4>three and a half foot four foot tall chimpanzee, man woman.

694
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 4>I guess in this case, I think that's pretty good.

695
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.359
<v Speaker 4>I don't, I don't mind it. I think that's pretty good.

696
00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:18.000
<v Speaker 4>And of course, the real clincher for me, at least

697
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:20.119
<v Speaker 4>in this article isn't so much that Lucy was slower,

698
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:22.279
<v Speaker 4>because in a way you can almost expect it because

699
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.160
<v Speaker 4>she is so tiny and stuff. And you know, when

700
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:26.839
<v Speaker 4>you look at an animal, you can tell a lot

701
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 4>about what they do. Like human beings, we have the

702
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:32.720
<v Speaker 4>same number of hair follicles pretty much more or less

703
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:35.839
<v Speaker 4>as all the other Grade eight species, which and one

704
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:38.559
<v Speaker 4>could presume all the hominin species that come before us

705
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.480
<v Speaker 4>as well, right, but we don't have hair growing out

706
00:31:41.480 --> 00:31:44.400
<v Speaker 4>of all of our follicles anymore. And you know, if

707
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:46.680
<v Speaker 4>you want to count them to take a shower, get

708
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:50.160
<v Speaker 4>out of the shower, look down right, And every one

709
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:53.839
<v Speaker 4>of those goosebumps on you is a hair follicle. Now

710
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:55.839
<v Speaker 4>you may not have hair coming out of them anymore,

711
00:31:56.079 --> 00:32:01.400
<v Speaker 4>but they are in full state, full of pilo erection

712
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 4>at that point, standing on in. That's what that's what

713
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.839
<v Speaker 4>a goosebumps is. If you were covered in hair, they'd

714
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.839
<v Speaker 4>all be standing straight up, right, That's what pelo erection is.

715
00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:13.759
<v Speaker 4>So if you look down, those were all hair follicles.

716
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:19.839
<v Speaker 4>So we don't have those anymore. That's because our ancestors

717
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 4>shed them for so heat can escape. So we didn't

718
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:29.039
<v Speaker 4>die of heat exhaustion as we ran across the African

719
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:34.559
<v Speaker 4>plains because our ancestors were persistence hunters, you know. And

720
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:37.599
<v Speaker 4>that basically means that you know, like if we look

721
00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:39.480
<v Speaker 4>at that goat, and I, like most of us, soon

722
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.000
<v Speaker 4>we see a goat, we go that goat looks delicious,

723
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.880
<v Speaker 4>I'd like to eat it, and so one of us

724
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:49.039
<v Speaker 4>would start chasing it, and then eventually we'd get tired,

725
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:51.759
<v Speaker 4>and we kind of tagged team our friend or our

726
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.720
<v Speaker 4>family member or our tribe member in and then they

727
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:58.640
<v Speaker 4>would chase the goat. And then when that person got tired,

728
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:02.319
<v Speaker 4>then they would tag team that person and etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

729
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:07.559
<v Speaker 4>So the humans were essentially giving ourselves breaks where we

730
00:33:07.599 --> 00:33:10.559
<v Speaker 4>didn't have to run, but the goat never got a break.

731
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.240
<v Speaker 4>And then the goat or whatever prey item it was

732
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:16.680
<v Speaker 4>would eventually kind of collapse out of exhaustion. We would

733
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:19.519
<v Speaker 4>fall upon it and reacavioc and kill it and eat

734
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:23.319
<v Speaker 4>it essentially. So that's why we have lost our hair

735
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:28.759
<v Speaker 4>covering because we were designed human Homo sapiens, and perhaps

736
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.720
<v Speaker 4>some of our ancestors. We don't know, because we don't

737
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:34.559
<v Speaker 4>have any you know, evidence necessarily of it. We kind

738
00:33:34.559 --> 00:33:38.000
<v Speaker 4>of assume some things. We assume Homo erectus was not

739
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:40.359
<v Speaker 4>hair covered, but how do we know. We really have

740
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:43.319
<v Speaker 4>no idea, I think at this point. So and if

741
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:48.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm wrong, please email the podcast with some sort of

742
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 4>like articles so I can read and learn about it.

743
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.680
<v Speaker 4>But humans don't have that hair covering anymore, so we

744
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.519
<v Speaker 4>can radiate the heat out to the environment. That's also,

745
00:33:56.519 --> 00:34:00.160
<v Speaker 4>by the way, why we have our foot structure like

746
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.079
<v Speaker 4>it is with the arch. You know that arch there

747
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:05.759
<v Speaker 4>is actually made to absorb some of the shock of

748
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.199
<v Speaker 4>running for long distances and also give us a little

749
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:12.840
<v Speaker 4>bit extra like spring toward step. That's humans are designed

750
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:16.679
<v Speaker 4>for that. And when you look at australopithesceenes, they simply aren't.

751
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:20.400
<v Speaker 4>They simply aren't. They are pretty robust a lot of them,

752
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:23.639
<v Speaker 4>even the more grass sile ones. You know that they've

753
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.000
<v Speaker 4>got a pretty pear shaped body for the most part

754
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:29.559
<v Speaker 4>because of their pelvic shape, you know, which which suggests

755
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 4>or actually we know that it increases the mass per

756
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:37.599
<v Speaker 4>surface area. They many of these species very likely had

757
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.440
<v Speaker 4>a flexible foot that have any sort of arch. There's

758
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:43.840
<v Speaker 4>some debate about that. I think a lot of paleoanthropologists

759
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:46.360
<v Speaker 4>look at the data and say that no, they had

760
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:49.000
<v Speaker 4>an arch. And I know that as there's a bias

761
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.480
<v Speaker 4>out there because from what I understand last thing I heard,

762
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.920
<v Speaker 4>and I could be wrong, like there are zero or

763
00:34:55.119 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 4>very very very very very close to zero homoerectus. Maybe

764
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:03.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm wrong about this, in which case I'm sure I'll

765
00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:05.960
<v Speaker 4>hear about it. But they but textbooks actually say that

766
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:08.719
<v Speaker 4>home erect has had an arch without any evidence whatsoever.

767
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:10.880
<v Speaker 4>So I know there's some sort of bias out there.

768
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:15.840
<v Speaker 4>These ostralopithesnes, some of them they say had arches. But

769
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:18.079
<v Speaker 4>I kind of wonder about it and the fact that

770
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:21.000
<v Speaker 4>they are covered in hair, or you assume they're covered

771
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.119
<v Speaker 4>in hair. I guess they probably were. I think at

772
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.519
<v Speaker 4>that point implies that they're not made for that they're

773
00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:29.239
<v Speaker 4>not made for this fast running thing. You know, they

774
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:31.679
<v Speaker 4>had a different ecological niche, and I guess that's what

775
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:36.800
<v Speaker 4>really this is highlighting. Even though the title the headline

776
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:40.559
<v Speaker 4>is they don't run fast, I think the real headline

777
00:35:40.599 --> 00:35:44.119
<v Speaker 4>is they serve a different ecological niche, which brings us

778
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:45.639
<v Speaker 4>back to sasquatch well.

779
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:48.639
<v Speaker 2>And also but on the running cliff, it says they're

780
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:52.159
<v Speaker 2>running required Lucy to expand one point seven to three

781
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:54.960
<v Speaker 2>times more energy than a modern human, making her locomotion

782
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:56.639
<v Speaker 2>far less efficient.

783
00:35:56.599 --> 00:36:01.360
<v Speaker 4>Right, So therefore she probably wouldn't have used it as often,

784
00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 4>which comes around to the ambush predator model that people

785
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:11.119
<v Speaker 4>have like Matt Prout, for example, has put forth for

786
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:12.360
<v Speaker 4>the Sasquatch Well.

787
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:13.920
<v Speaker 3>I think one of the big takeaways for me is

788
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 3>that it just goes to show that bipedalism is not

789
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 3>a one size fits all. You know, there's evolution didn't

790
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:24.360
<v Speaker 3>select for one form of bipedalism, not even in upright

791
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:28.920
<v Speaker 3>apes or homin ins, let alone hominids or hominoids, et cetera,

792
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.800
<v Speaker 3>and that we're evolved, we're selected for very different things

793
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Australia pith scenes in US, and so yes, we're both bipedal,

794
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:38.840
<v Speaker 3>but not in the same way, even in the slightest

795
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:40.599
<v Speaker 3>when it comes down to the minutia of some of

796
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:43.800
<v Speaker 3>these things, that there's many different selection pressures at play here.

797
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it makes perfect sense, you know. And when

798
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:48.199
<v Speaker 4>you look at the anatomy of an animal, which is

799
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:51.400
<v Speaker 4>basically kind of all we have for Australio pitho scenes,

800
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:55.119
<v Speaker 4>we have the anatomy and we have some tools that

801
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.440
<v Speaker 4>were retrieved out of layers at a certain age, and

802
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:05.840
<v Speaker 4>therefore it could be guessed that Australia pithe scenes may

803
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.159
<v Speaker 4>have made these kinds of tools, which would be super

804
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:11.559
<v Speaker 4>interesting because Ostralla pithe scenes were basically, as far as

805
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 4>we know, chimpanzees that walked up right, you know, And

806
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.039
<v Speaker 4>so if these things were making tools because they had

807
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:20.039
<v Speaker 4>free use of their upper limbs or arms. In other words,

808
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.800
<v Speaker 4>it's very very interesting what other animals currently alive today,

809
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:27.840
<v Speaker 4>like regular chimpanzees, might be capable of if they could

810
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:31.480
<v Speaker 4>free themselves up a little bit. But when you look

811
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:33.519
<v Speaker 4>at the anatomy, it tells you a lot about how

812
00:37:33.559 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 4>an animal lived. Leela, Leela what's her last name, you know,

813
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:43.000
<v Speaker 4>the the ericson Project Leela Hodgschick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I

814
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:45.239
<v Speaker 4>was hanging out with her in Portland years and years

815
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:47.599
<v Speaker 4>and years ago. She was presenting a paper I guess

816
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:49.840
<v Speaker 4>as some conference that was in Towent and she called

817
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:51.400
<v Speaker 4>me and we went out and had lunch or dinner

818
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.320
<v Speaker 4>or something and hung out, very very informative, very very cool,

819
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:58.159
<v Speaker 4>and she said some snappy catch line that I don't remember,

820
00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:01.039
<v Speaker 4>and I wish I did, but basically the gist of

821
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:04.840
<v Speaker 4>her snatchy cap line was, you know, if you look

822
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.039
<v Speaker 4>at an animal and you look how they're built, it'll

823
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.840
<v Speaker 4>tell you what they were doing. And we were specifically

824
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:13.719
<v Speaker 4>talking about how sasquatch is intermemberble indexes were larger or

825
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:15.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, the arms are longer than in the humans,

826
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:19.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, for example, and therefore it's reasonable to think

827
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 4>that they may have been using their arms for locomotion

828
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:26.280
<v Speaker 4>to some to some degree at the time. And she says, oh, yeah,

829
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:29.840
<v Speaker 4>well they say this, you know, anatomy reflects behavior or whatever.

830
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:31.559
<v Speaker 4>The catch line was, I don't remember what it was

831
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:33.960
<v Speaker 4>at the time. So we do that a lot with

832
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:37.960
<v Speaker 4>these fossil species, you know. And so now that they've

833
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:42.000
<v Speaker 4>used this three D modeling then simulation software, I guess

834
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:47.239
<v Speaker 4>it's no surprise at all that Oshalla patikas a forensis

835
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<v Speaker 4>wasn't made for doing the same thing that humans were.

836
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.039
<v Speaker 3>Oh exactly. Yeah, But bipedalism is not a hallmark of

837
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:58.880
<v Speaker 3>humanity alone. And you know, these evolutionary adaptations are not

838
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:02.920
<v Speaker 3>just byproducts of epedalism. Like just walking upright doesn't give

839
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:06.239
<v Speaker 3>you a single outcome. It can result in many different outcomes.

840
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.679
<v Speaker 3>And this is a great example of one that's different

841
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:09.360
<v Speaker 3>from ours.

842
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Word.

843
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:13.119
<v Speaker 4>So when somebody says word to your mother, what word

844
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:14.119
<v Speaker 4>are they talking about?

845
00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 3>Hey, tell your mom, I said hi in a suggestive way.

846
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:21.159
<v Speaker 3>That's why. That's why it's a diss when people say

847
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:22.159
<v Speaker 3>word to your mother.

848
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:23.880
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's a disc it's not a good thing.

849
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:27.880
<v Speaker 2>It's a good thing, is it word to your mother? Yeah?

850
00:39:28.000 --> 00:39:29.360
<v Speaker 3>We'll ask of Vanilla Ice.

851
00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:31.159
<v Speaker 4>When is he going to be on as a guest.

852
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:35.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. He's probably not terribly busy.

853
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:37.880
<v Speaker 2>The whoa dude, Rob's got stuff going on.

854
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:40.679
<v Speaker 3>He might be a fan. If you're listening, Rob, send

855
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:41.320
<v Speaker 3>us an email.

856
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:44.280
<v Speaker 2>I love the ice it goes by Rob van Winkle.

857
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:47.159
<v Speaker 3>Now, he was also in the second teenage Mutant Ninja

858
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:49.880
<v Speaker 3>Turtle's live action movie, so he's got some familiarity with

859
00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:53.760
<v Speaker 3>creature suits and anthropomorphic animals and so he's got a

860
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:54.440
<v Speaker 3>lot to say.

861
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Dude, the guy's a badass dancer. He could sing. He's

862
00:39:57.400 --> 00:39:59.000
<v Speaker 2>a sick dirt bike rider.

863
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:01.440
<v Speaker 3>He is a sick bike rider. That is true.

864
00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 4>It becomes on. I hope that everything he says rhymes.

865
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:08.599
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm sure the word to your mother was around

866
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:10.760
<v Speaker 3>for a long time, but I don't think that made

867
00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:14.159
<v Speaker 3>it to like rural North Georgia until Ice Ized Baby

868
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:14.599
<v Speaker 3>hit two.

869
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.920
<v Speaker 4>Thousand and five, the way after it was cool.

870
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:19.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. You guys got it a little earlier in

871
00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:22.440
<v Speaker 3>so Cow, but in North Georgia it took Ice Sized

872
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:26.079
<v Speaker 3>Baby before kids in North Georgia started saying it.

873
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Cable TV and then especially the Internet ruined like California

874
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.119
<v Speaker 2>being cool. Besides that, but I mean, like how like

875
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:36.480
<v Speaker 2>the wrestling country would be so far behind because like

876
00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:40.199
<v Speaker 2>once like MTV hit, like styles would pop out like overnight,

877
00:40:40.360 --> 00:40:41.679
<v Speaker 2>like cross country, you know.

878
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:44.519
<v Speaker 3>That's why. Maybe that's why we had a hard time

879
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:47.320
<v Speaker 3>believing that you invented wearing your pants low or hanging

880
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:50.800
<v Speaker 3>crevices because we assumed it was ubiquitous. But since you

881
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.480
<v Speaker 3>were an early adopter, you might really have invented it.

882
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh the pigeons tell yeah, dude, hanging crevices.

883
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 3>And Hi Buddha, chest bump, belly bump.

884
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, got videographic evidence of that. Right after that was

885
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I think you can trace it to the Oakland A's.

886
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:12.360
<v Speaker 2>And then my brother was good friends with Mike Diegos.

887
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:14.719
<v Speaker 2>His brother, Chris Goegos, was on his team at UC

888
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Irvine baseball team, and those guys started doing the high

889
00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Buddha and I'm thinking they got it from from the

890
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:21.639
<v Speaker 2>Bows and Buford.

891
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:24.880
<v Speaker 3>I think these top tier athletes were sitting around watching

892
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:28.039
<v Speaker 3>Kidty Loggins music videos and then decided to co opt

893
00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:30.519
<v Speaker 3>one of the moves from the number one.

894
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Video of the country, number one video in the country.

895
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:37.079
<v Speaker 4>Four weeks pro playing with the boys, yep, and still

896
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:39.559
<v Speaker 4>a fan favored in all gay bars across the country.

897
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:44.199
<v Speaker 2>You're immortal in the At the Millennium in two thousand

898
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:46.880
<v Speaker 2>and they came out with a list of that the

899
00:41:46.880 --> 00:41:51.320
<v Speaker 2>most remixed songs and gig gay bars, and we were

900
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:57.639
<v Speaker 2>at number two after its raining men, you've.

901
00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:58.199
<v Speaker 4>Been to gay bars?

902
00:41:58.280 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 2>Right? Yeah?

903
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:05.519
<v Speaker 5>Remember I don't remember going through a gay bar with you. Yeah,

904
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.960
<v Speaker 5>with Renee on the road, I don't remember that. Oh

905
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:10.920
<v Speaker 5>me and I don't mean money and like I think

906
00:42:11.039 --> 00:42:12.320
<v Speaker 5>grabs were there.

907
00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:14.239
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I don't remember going to a gay bar

908
00:42:14.280 --> 00:42:14.719
<v Speaker 4>in the road.

909
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:18.079
<v Speaker 3>It does say even on Wikipedia. The song was a

910
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:22.159
<v Speaker 3>hit among gay nightclubs. Spin Magazine's interviewer Jonathan Cohen called

911
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:25.679
<v Speaker 3>it quote a sort of gay anthem. Yeah that Loggins

912
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:28.239
<v Speaker 3>performs the song for the video in the middle of

913
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:31.400
<v Speaker 3>a men versus women indoor volleyball game. The women won

914
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 3>by fifteen to thirteen.

915
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:35.400
<v Speaker 2>I do. That's that's how I found out it was

916
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:37.320
<v Speaker 2>a big deal. I was with Renee and I think

917
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 2>we were in North Carolina. I can't remember. We were

918
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:41.360
<v Speaker 2>at some gay bar and that song came on, and

919
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:44.079
<v Speaker 2>like halfway there, I was like, oh, I know this song.

920
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm on the video and the like it was like

921
00:42:46.599 --> 00:42:48.559
<v Speaker 2>I was I couldn't buy a drink in that. Besides,

922
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:50.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, I probably couldn't anyways, because I was a

923
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:54.000
<v Speaker 2>handsome guy. But I was like a full celeb because

924
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:55.800
<v Speaker 2>I was the dude and I was one of the

925
00:42:55.880 --> 00:42:58.800
<v Speaker 2>dudes and playing with the boys.

926
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.559
<v Speaker 3>If any of our listeners are are like adept at

927
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.960
<v Speaker 3>editing Wikipedia, will you please edit that entry to reflect

928
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 3>that it also features James Bobofe of Finding Bigfoot and

929
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:11.559
<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo. Because that's that's

930
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.039
<v Speaker 3>crucial info that needs to be on this Wikipedia entry.

931
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.079
<v Speaker 4>Oh that'd be fun. That'd be a lot of fun.

932
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:19.840
<v Speaker 3>It's factually true, there's it should be in there. Well,

933
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:21.559
<v Speaker 3>I will put the link to the video in the

934
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:24.000
<v Speaker 3>show notes yet again because it is a classic.

935
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's fantastic.

936
00:43:26.119 --> 00:43:29.039
<v Speaker 2>And I don't have a Wikipedia page to link to anyways.

937
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:30.360
<v Speaker 3>But that you could still put it in there. It

938
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:31.760
<v Speaker 3>can still at least be referenced.

939
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought you had a Oh okay, I thought you

940
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:35.000
<v Speaker 2>had to have like a page or.

941
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:37.639
<v Speaker 3>Something now because Finding Bigfoot has a wiki page, so

942
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.119
<v Speaker 3>it could just link to that James Bobo Fay of

943
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:44.199
<v Speaker 3>Finding Bigfoot and click it. You know, this is important information.

944
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.599
<v Speaker 3>You've been You've been ignored by history for far too long,

945
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:49.039
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not okay with it anymore.

946
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Someone's got to make me a Wikipedia page that has

947
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:56.079
<v Speaker 2>the have a just the footnote of Bigfoot and have

948
00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:57.840
<v Speaker 2>it all be about playing with the boys.

949
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:01.079
<v Speaker 3>All the source material would just be of this podcast

950
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:03.159
<v Speaker 3>that would have all these wild plays about your life.

951
00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:05.079
<v Speaker 3>And they'd be like, what are your sources? He'd be like, oh,

952
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:09.920
<v Speaker 3>episode two twenty three.

953
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:12.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that. I think the world is sorely

954
00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:19.639
<v Speaker 4>lacking a Bobo Fay Wikipedia page. I agree, Stay tuned

955
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:22.800
<v Speaker 4>for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo will

956
00:44:22.800 --> 00:44:24.360
<v Speaker 4>be right back after these messages.

957
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:30.599
<v Speaker 3>How hard?

958
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, how do you get a page on it anything?

959
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know.

960
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:36.159
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. But the underneath where it tells me

961
00:44:36.199 --> 00:44:40.079
<v Speaker 4>Matt doesn't exist on Wikipedias, his Finding Bigfoot, Bigfoot Field

962
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:43.199
<v Speaker 4>Research Organization founder and president, Matt Moneymaker, Bigfoot Enthusias and

963
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:46.079
<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah, James Fan Cliff, and then underneath it

964
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:47.079
<v Speaker 4>is Chris Moneymaker.

965
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:48.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, poker.

966
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:52.280
<v Speaker 3>The Wikipedia says that your show is also starring besides

967
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:58.079
<v Speaker 3>you four, Paige Riley, Jane Namars, Naomi and Camille Breen

968
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:02.079
<v Speaker 3>are the other four stars of Finding Bigfoot.

969
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:04.000
<v Speaker 2>That's why he made the page.

970
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 4>That's odd. There is a reference. There is a reference

971
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:12.159
<v Speaker 4>to Moneymaker on the Mountain Monsters Wikipedia page.

972
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh they got a wiki page. They do good for that,

973
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:16.159
<v Speaker 2>they deserve it.

974
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:18.599
<v Speaker 3>It's does say that James Bobo Fey was born and

975
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:22.639
<v Speaker 3>raised in Manhattan Beach, California. The tallest and burliest member

976
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.119
<v Speaker 3>of the team, he is the one most often used

977
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:28.000
<v Speaker 3>to stand in for Bigfoot and recreations. Fay is known

978
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:30.199
<v Speaker 3>for his gone squatch and hat. It does say he

979
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:32.679
<v Speaker 3>and Barrackman are close friends and search for Bigfoot together

980
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:35.599
<v Speaker 3>before the series started. It also mentions that you are

981
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:38.639
<v Speaker 3>on Conan and then in twenty fourteen, Boston Red Sox

982
00:45:38.679 --> 00:45:42.480
<v Speaker 3>second basement Dustin Pedroia met you at Fenway Park before

983
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:44.679
<v Speaker 3>a game and gave you an autograph baseball bat with

984
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:46.480
<v Speaker 3>the Sasquatch logo on the bottom of it.

985
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 2>That's cool, Yeah, that's true.

986
00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:52.599
<v Speaker 4>They say there's a feud between the Finding Bigfoot people

987
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:55.320
<v Speaker 4>in the Mountain Monsters on their page. It says here

988
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:59.159
<v Speaker 4>that on April fifth, twenty fifteen, Matt Moneymaker of Finding

989
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:02.519
<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot tweeted that Mountain Monsters was scripted and the Ames

990
00:46:02.599 --> 00:46:07.599
<v Speaker 4>team were merely actors. Trapper John Tice responded to the tweet,

991
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.079
<v Speaker 4>denying that he was an actor and referring to Moneymaker's

992
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:16.480
<v Speaker 4>show as losing Bigfoot. The online feud continued with Finding

993
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:19.599
<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot cast member Cliff Barrett Cliff Barrickman chiming in that

994
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.559
<v Speaker 4>the show is fiction and that the official Finding Bigfoot

995
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:25.599
<v Speaker 4>Twitter account calling Mountain Monsters a fake hoax show in

996
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:29.599
<v Speaker 4>regards to the series. Oh and the Final Wait is

997
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:33.480
<v Speaker 4>fiction and the official Finding Bigfoot Twitter account calling Mountain

998
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:36.800
<v Speaker 4>Monsters a fake hoax show in regards to this series.

999
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:39.239
<v Speaker 4>April twenty seven routine.

1000
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:41.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you brought this up because I was going

1001
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:44.280
<v Speaker 3>to save it from the members episode. But literally four

1002
00:46:44.280 --> 00:46:47.639
<v Speaker 3>hours ago, a member messaged me and said, Hey, I

1003
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:49.800
<v Speaker 3>have this question. I don't know whether I should ask

1004
00:46:49.800 --> 00:46:52.119
<v Speaker 3>it on the show or not, but I read this

1005
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:54.599
<v Speaker 3>Wikipedia page and it mentions that there's a feud with

1006
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:56.840
<v Speaker 3>the Mountain Monster guys. Is there any truth to this

1007
00:46:56.920 --> 00:46:59.519
<v Speaker 3>story at all? And so I said, well, I'll ask him.

1008
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.119
<v Speaker 3>Doubt that it's true, because they're all good friends, but

1009
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:04.360
<v Speaker 3>i'll ask. So here you go bringing it.

1010
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:07.599
<v Speaker 2>Up before before we met him at the conventions, like

1011
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I would, because dude, I got so many to by

1012
00:47:10.679 --> 00:47:13.679
<v Speaker 2>Page would get flooded with you guys are stupid. You

1013
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:15.840
<v Speaker 2>gotta get to the Mountain Monsters. They find them every time.

1014
00:47:16.519 --> 00:47:18.960
<v Speaker 4>We're stupid, right, like you.

1015
00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Well one of they be like you ignorant, fool, lily jackass.

1016
00:47:26.159 --> 00:47:28.639
<v Speaker 2>But I'd just be like, yeah, well there's this fake

1017
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.119
<v Speaker 2>like those I do they weren't actors just because there's

1018
00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:33.880
<v Speaker 2>no way they were actors like Tuffleberry and I mean,

1019
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:36.480
<v Speaker 2>those guys are just you could tell they weren't actors

1020
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:37.519
<v Speaker 2>no way.

1021
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:39.800
<v Speaker 4>You know, I thought they were actors. And then I

1022
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:43.119
<v Speaker 4>did a gig with them. You know, the Pennsylvania is

1023
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:46.000
<v Speaker 4>something bigfoot camp out that Eric Altman does every couple

1024
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:49.760
<v Speaker 4>of years or something. And the Mountain Monster guys when

1025
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.480
<v Speaker 4>the booth next to me, and that's when I like,

1026
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:54.800
<v Speaker 4>I kind of met him and talked to him a

1027
00:47:54.800 --> 00:47:58.519
<v Speaker 4>little bit, and I realized, oh my god, they're not actors,

1028
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:00.840
<v Speaker 4>which which like which is? It's soll perplexing to this

1029
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:03.599
<v Speaker 4>day because you know, sheep squatch, come on, guys, sheep

1030
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:06.599
<v Speaker 4>squatch but doesn't exist, right, Yeah, And there's a lot

1031
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:09.639
<v Speaker 4>of things out there that are going after that are

1032
00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:13.920
<v Speaker 4>just like local, local sort of you know, this particular

1033
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:17.880
<v Speaker 4>hollow calls that sasquatch this name, you know, and they

1034
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.199
<v Speaker 4>treat them like an entirely different things. And I don't

1035
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:22.000
<v Speaker 4>know what. I don't know. I don't know what to

1036
00:48:22.039 --> 00:48:24.360
<v Speaker 4>think about the show. I think that basically, you have

1037
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:29.760
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of really really awesome ridiculous people, you know,

1038
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:31.440
<v Speaker 4>like like you and I are, by the way, you know,

1039
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:34.559
<v Speaker 4>we're awesome ridiculous people. Not not you, Matt, but Bobo

1040
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:38.519
<v Speaker 4>and I mostly Bobo, honestly. And I think they turn

1041
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:41.199
<v Speaker 4>it up to eleven. That's what I think they do.

1042
00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:43.360
<v Speaker 4>They're they're put in these situations and they turn it

1043
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:45.519
<v Speaker 4>up to eleven and let them loose and then the

1044
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:48.400
<v Speaker 4>editors go to work. Essentially, that's what I think Mountain

1045
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:50.760
<v Speaker 4>Monsters is. I don't know though, but the bottom line

1046
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:54.480
<v Speaker 4>is they are all, every single one of them, absolutely

1047
00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:59.599
<v Speaker 4>wonderful gems of human beings. They are the kindest, sweetest,

1048
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:05.039
<v Speaker 4>most humble, most appreciative people. I think probably probably I've

1049
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:08.519
<v Speaker 4>ever met in my life. And that one, that one

1050
00:49:08.599 --> 00:49:11.039
<v Speaker 4>gig out there were there at the booth next to me,

1051
00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:12.840
<v Speaker 4>and I didn't really know him yet when I saw

1052
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.719
<v Speaker 4>him singing Happy Birthday. Every single person that came by

1053
00:49:15.800 --> 00:49:18.519
<v Speaker 4>that was appropriate to sing Happy Birthday too, and treating

1054
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:21.159
<v Speaker 4>every you know, little boy or girl as a king

1055
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:23.760
<v Speaker 4>or a queen and just going over the top. And

1056
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:27.679
<v Speaker 4>I said, yeah, there, show is ridiculous, and I think

1057
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:30.039
<v Speaker 4>they probably realized that too, And you know, our show

1058
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 4>is ridiculous in other ways too. But when I saw that,

1059
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:36.280
<v Speaker 4>I said, you know what, no matter what their show is,

1060
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:40.039
<v Speaker 4>it is fantastic. And I've never seen one, to be fair,

1061
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:42.320
<v Speaker 4>I'd never seen one at that point. And after I

1062
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:44.360
<v Speaker 4>met him and started hanging out with him, and Melissa

1063
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:48.159
<v Speaker 4>met him at some job or whatever, you know, we

1064
00:49:48.400 --> 00:49:52.480
<v Speaker 4>went back home and we watched Mountain Monster episode and

1065
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:56.840
<v Speaker 4>I just laughed and laughed and laughed. There's nothing wrong

1066
00:49:56.880 --> 00:49:59.559
<v Speaker 4>with whatever they're doing. There's nothing wrong with it. And

1067
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:02.920
<v Speaker 4>of course Melissa's take on it was that, oh my god,

1068
00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:04.480
<v Speaker 4>they're so supportive of one another.

1069
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:05.159
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean.

1070
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:07.559
<v Speaker 4>It's like, look like somebody says something and everybody else

1071
00:50:07.599 --> 00:50:10.239
<v Speaker 4>goes hell yeah, hell yeah, I start shooting guns and

1072
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:12.519
<v Speaker 4>going in the woods and like brilliant, enthused about it.

1073
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:16.760
<v Speaker 4>They're just supportive, loving, kind people. And I can honestly

1074
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:18.840
<v Speaker 4>say now that I know every single one of them.

1075
00:50:18.880 --> 00:50:21.440
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know Trapper. He passed away unfortunately before I

1076
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:22.800
<v Speaker 4>had a chance to really get to know him. I

1077
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:24.960
<v Speaker 4>know every single one of them. I mean, wild Bill

1078
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:27.000
<v Speaker 4>called me a couple of days ago and left a message.

1079
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:29.639
<v Speaker 4>I'm not quite sure what it says, but he left

1080
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:33.119
<v Speaker 4>a message. And now that I know every single one

1081
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:37.480
<v Speaker 4>of them, they are all fantastic and whatever this feud

1082
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:43.239
<v Speaker 4>thing is, it's it's hogwash because I just couldn't love

1083
00:50:43.320 --> 00:50:45.119
<v Speaker 4>me some mountain monsters any more than I do.

1084
00:50:45.519 --> 00:50:47.519
<v Speaker 2>And we have clear there's some at least fifteen times

1085
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:48.280
<v Speaker 2>in the show before.

1086
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.079
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, here, actually you know what, let's do this.

1087
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:55.519
<v Speaker 4>I think I still have wild Bill's message.

1088
00:50:56.039 --> 00:50:56.440
<v Speaker 2>Call him.

1089
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:58.599
<v Speaker 4>No, that wasn't gonna call him. I was just going

1090
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:01.000
<v Speaker 4>to play it. Yeah, here you go, Yeah, here we go.

1091
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:03.239
<v Speaker 4>Hold on, say Clint.

1092
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:06.519
<v Speaker 6>Bar when this is William the United States Ring Corps.

1093
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:08.159
<v Speaker 4>Who rah, brother?

1094
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:13.000
<v Speaker 6>Hey, I don't think I live on the last get out?

1095
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:14.199
<v Speaker 4>Not about right now.

1096
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:16.760
<v Speaker 3>We got about probably.

1097
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:19.880
<v Speaker 6>Well, we had about probably three plus slow melted down

1098
00:51:19.960 --> 00:51:23.199
<v Speaker 6>probably too, but it's steel, sub glue, brow and stuff.

1099
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:26.159
<v Speaker 6>But ice to sew your brother, Hey, I just call

1100
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:28.880
<v Speaker 6>and see it balls. Well, many ain't seen you, simple

1101
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:31.280
<v Speaker 6>but uh Kentucky.

1102
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:34.360
<v Speaker 4>So it's gonna give me shout. Bro'll see how you doing. Man?

1103
00:51:34.719 --> 00:51:35.320
<v Speaker 4>Who balls?

1104
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:38.360
<v Speaker 6>Well, Man, I'll probably be seeing you sometime in the

1105
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:41.280
<v Speaker 6>near future. Have a good go up on Cliff who

1106
00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:43.679
<v Speaker 6>balls will brother who Rah we.

1107
00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:47.559
<v Speaker 4>Who rah Indeed, Man, I love that guy. I just

1108
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:50.519
<v Speaker 4>love all those guys so much. Oh, he's so amazing.

1109
00:51:50.920 --> 00:51:54.639
<v Speaker 4>All those guys. So this bit fighting bigfoot feud whatever,

1110
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:57.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, whatever, man, do I think there are shows,

1111
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:01.599
<v Speaker 4>actual real stuff going. No, I don't, but whatever, man,

1112
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:04.119
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't matter. These guys are gems of human beings,

1113
00:52:04.760 --> 00:52:09.119
<v Speaker 4>bringing entire new generations of young people into it. And

1114
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:11.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, and what the funny part is the funny

1115
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:13.719
<v Speaker 4>to me the most ridiculous or one of the most

1116
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:17.039
<v Speaker 4>ridiculous things about this. Now that I know all those guys,

1117
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:22.199
<v Speaker 4>every one of them, I think, except for Jeff, has

1118
00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:25.480
<v Speaker 4>seen a sasquatch. You know, Jeff's a great guy, love him.

1119
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:27.559
<v Speaker 4>You know it had some of his moonshine. Actually one time,

1120
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:30.320
<v Speaker 4>every one of them has seen a Well, now that

1121
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying that, I'm not sure Buck has seen one,

1122
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:34.960
<v Speaker 4>but I know he may have though, but I know

1123
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:38.119
<v Speaker 4>he's found big footprints when he was out turkey hunting

1124
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:40.519
<v Speaker 4>at one time. You know, we got to have Buck

1125
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:42.320
<v Speaker 4>on the show, you know, he'd be a good guest

1126
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:43.360
<v Speaker 4>for the show, I think too.

1127
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure.

1128
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:46.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he said he'd come on any time, and it's

1129
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:48.760
<v Speaker 4>got to give him a call, man, So yeah, keep

1130
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:50.800
<v Speaker 4>poking me about that. I'll try to get Buck on here.

1131
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.719
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, every one of those guys has scenes wild

1132
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:56.159
<v Speaker 4>Bill has seen a sasquatch, you know. Huckleberry I think

1133
00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:58.760
<v Speaker 4>has seen him twice. So of course they're going to

1134
00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:00.760
<v Speaker 4>be on some bigfood show doing their thing, you know.

1135
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:04.800
<v Speaker 4>And again they're just themselves, they're not actors. They just

1136
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:06.840
<v Speaker 4>turn it up to eleven and let them lose.

1137
00:53:07.280 --> 00:53:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but their default setting is already like ten and

1138
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:09.840
<v Speaker 3>a half.

1139
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:11.800
<v Speaker 4>I know. Yeah.

1140
00:53:11.880 --> 00:53:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've reading the big Foot in Wikipedia, just Bigfoot,

1141
00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:19.239
<v Speaker 2>and there's finding big Foot stuff in there, but nothing

1142
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:22.440
<v Speaker 2>about us personally. But then there's there are museums dedicated

1143
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.400
<v Speaker 2>to big Foot and twenty nineteen big Foot reacharch or

1144
00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Clip Berrick, notable for his role in finding Bigfoot, open

1145
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:29.480
<v Speaker 2>the North Berican big Foot Center and boring Oregon.

1146
00:53:29.800 --> 00:53:32.039
<v Speaker 4>No kidding, that's nice of them to put that in.

1147
00:53:32.840 --> 00:53:36.119
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Bill got me fired up. I'm all, like hearts

1148
00:53:36.119 --> 00:53:39.199
<v Speaker 2>popping harder and getting a little jittery.

1149
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:41.280
<v Speaker 4>Well you should. I don't know if Bill, I mean,

1150
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:42.400
<v Speaker 4>does Bill have a computer?

1151
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:44.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think he does.

1152
00:53:44.760 --> 00:53:47.159
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he might be a fun guess. I mean it

1153
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:50.880
<v Speaker 4>might be hard to follow sometimes because you know, his

1154
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:54.199
<v Speaker 4>accent and his enthusiasm kind of mask what he says sometimes.

1155
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Oh, when I was at the twenty twenty one Smoky

1156
00:53:57.360 --> 00:53:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Mountain big Foot conference, which you guys have both been to,

1157
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:03.559
<v Speaker 3>Like it's at a massive convention center in Gallinburg, like

1158
00:54:03.719 --> 00:54:06.400
<v Speaker 3>a huge room that probably holds like twenty five hundred

1159
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:09.840
<v Speaker 3>and three thousand people. Bill refused to use a microphone

1160
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:12.719
<v Speaker 3>and people were like a gas. I mean, he started

1161
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.039
<v Speaker 3>talking and like everyone could hear him all the way

1162
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.119
<v Speaker 3>in the back, and people wereized, like, oh, he doesn't

1163
00:54:17.119 --> 00:54:20.719
<v Speaker 3>need a microphone. People could hear him outside probably, so.

1164
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:23.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he does need a microphone nor a spotlight.

1165
00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:30.880
<v Speaker 3>They could hear him clearing pigeon forge.

1166
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:35.079
<v Speaker 4>We're coming up to the end of our time here.

1167
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:37.360
<v Speaker 4>You know, we still have a members episode to record.

1168
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:40.320
<v Speaker 4>Why don't we head over there? And not much of

1169
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:42.599
<v Speaker 4>a topical episode. I got to say, we only covered

1170
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:45.199
<v Speaker 4>one and we just kind of shot, you know, shot

1171
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:47.880
<v Speaker 4>the poop. I guess, you know, for the rest of

1172
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:50.079
<v Speaker 4>the time. But I had a good time talking, which

1173
00:54:50.119 --> 00:54:51.280
<v Speaker 4>is good, man, because I had a kind of a

1174
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:55.679
<v Speaker 4>lousy day, So this is great And for me at least,

1175
00:54:55.719 --> 00:54:58.199
<v Speaker 4>I can't speak for YouTube characters, but for me at least,

1176
00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:02.199
<v Speaker 4>that's probably my favorite thing about the podcast. I love

1177
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:05.360
<v Speaker 4>hanging out and talking to my best friends, so just

1178
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:07.239
<v Speaker 4>that we can just set aside a little bit of

1179
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:09.599
<v Speaker 4>time and catch up and stuff. When I get lost

1180
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:11.920
<v Speaker 4>in the conversation and just have a good time, those

1181
00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:15.079
<v Speaker 4>are my favorite podcasts. When I don't have to be

1182
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:17.360
<v Speaker 4>an expert on something and I don't have to know

1183
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:19.840
<v Speaker 4>all the answers and all that stuff. I do appreciate that.

1184
00:55:19.880 --> 00:55:22.400
<v Speaker 4>So thank you both very much, Matt and Bobo for

1185
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:24.840
<v Speaker 4>pulling me out of a pretty mediocre mood. Man. I

1186
00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:27.320
<v Speaker 4>had a crappy day down doing construction stuff in the

1187
00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:29.920
<v Speaker 4>outbuilding because I've been talking about a lot. I'm building

1188
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:33.360
<v Speaker 4>this room for my casts. The footprint casts have outgrown

1189
00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:35.760
<v Speaker 4>my garage, so I'm building a twenty by thirty five

1190
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:38.440
<v Speaker 4>foot room in my outbuilding. So I can house them.

1191
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:42.360
<v Speaker 4>And today we're putting joists up and building this room,

1192
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:45.440
<v Speaker 4>and I screwed up well over half of them, so

1193
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:48.320
<v Speaker 4>I had to go redo them all. And of course

1194
00:55:48.360 --> 00:55:51.800
<v Speaker 4>i'm you know, my Gary, my fabulous neighbor is helping

1195
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:53.559
<v Speaker 4>me out, and I feel like, I don't know, just

1196
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:55.920
<v Speaker 4>so disappointed in myself in so many ways. So it's

1197
00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:57.880
<v Speaker 4>so nice to catch up with you guys and just

1198
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:01.159
<v Speaker 4>kind of lose my grumpy mood for minute and in

1199
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:03.800
<v Speaker 4>talk talk squatch with you. So I appreciate you guys.

1200
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:04.719
<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

1201
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:06.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, as I said, I forgot too. We're talking

1202
00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:09.159
<v Speaker 2>about Fireball over there. My greatest joy in squatching was

1203
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I had two definite or three or four actually definite

1204
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:16.639
<v Speaker 2>encounters with Fireball. He got to smell them and hear them.

1205
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:18.760
<v Speaker 2>We went on a trip in New Mexico to the

1206
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Hickory of Patri Reservation in two thousand and four, had

1207
00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:21.719
<v Speaker 2>the best sighting.

1208
00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:22.840
<v Speaker 4>What did you say?

1209
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:26.599
<v Speaker 2>They smelled like we were in pursuit of some squatches,

1210
00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:28.360
<v Speaker 2>some a couple of squatches that we were that we

1211
00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:30.760
<v Speaker 2>were encountering. That the the ones that yelled hey, the

1212
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:32.679
<v Speaker 2>one that yelled hey when they were trying to corrala

1213
00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:36.559
<v Speaker 2>cow elk and the box canyons. And when they took

1214
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:39.000
<v Speaker 2>off out the back, we drove around, were hauling, asked

1215
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:41.679
<v Speaker 2>from fireballs, chuck. We went flying down this back road

1216
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:43.920
<v Speaker 2>to go intercept what they'd had to cross. You could

1217
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:45.440
<v Speaker 2>see in the grass that they had run through dry

1218
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:49.199
<v Speaker 2>grass and it's dunk. That same smell I smelled the

1219
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:53.039
<v Speaker 2>time at Bluff Creek that just you know, futred, you

1220
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:56.880
<v Speaker 2>know out housey smell with vinegar kind of mixed in.

1221
00:56:57.599 --> 00:56:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Smelled like a you know, smell a dead year. It's

1222
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:01.159
<v Speaker 2>been a dunst one hundred degree heat for a week

1223
00:57:01.199 --> 00:57:02.719
<v Speaker 2>behind Taco Bell and the dumpster.

1224
00:57:03.519 --> 00:57:05.400
<v Speaker 4>Not a lot of deer in the Taco Bell dumpster

1225
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:05.920
<v Speaker 4>around here.

1226
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Man. That was just a great description. I heard that

1227
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:11.880
<v Speaker 2>was going the next but yeah, so yeah, you heard

1228
00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:13.320
<v Speaker 2>the ones in the barn with it. When he was

1229
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:15.840
<v Speaker 2>putting the changes underwear and his foot got caught in

1230
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:19.360
<v Speaker 2>his underwear and he fell and he heard this laughing

1231
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:22.400
<v Speaker 2>like he heated into the big ladder. One goes like

1232
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:25.480
<v Speaker 2>shished him shit. They all went dead quietly. He who

1233
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:28.000
<v Speaker 2>is that? He sends the bitches and then they ran

1234
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:30.599
<v Speaker 2>out and jumped. They ran to the dead pace, just

1235
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:33.000
<v Speaker 2>running out the back. I heard that part. They went

1236
00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:36.079
<v Speaker 2>running through the payloft and never even brooke stride just

1237
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:38.880
<v Speaker 2>hit the ground, running like out of the second floor

1238
00:57:38.880 --> 00:57:42.079
<v Speaker 2>of the barn, just hit the ground, took off. Then

1239
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:45.079
<v Speaker 2>he also heard him on our way there. We stopped

1240
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:48.559
<v Speaker 2>it where my buddy had a bunch of squash action

1241
00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:52.800
<v Speaker 2>happ when he was soon while spotted al surveys in Arizona,

1242
00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:57.880
<v Speaker 2>like up like ten thousand foot elevation, ten thousand feet

1243
00:57:57.960 --> 00:57:59.960
<v Speaker 2>so on his peak. And we went up there before

1244
00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:03.280
<v Speaker 2>dry lightning storm hit and we had him around us

1245
00:58:03.320 --> 00:58:05.679
<v Speaker 2>that night and he heard the knocks and the whistles

1246
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:08.320
<v Speaker 2>and he was tripping. And then a few nights later

1247
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:10.880
<v Speaker 2>he heard that. Then he heard the scream. He got

1248
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:14.320
<v Speaker 2>that crazy scream that everyone that was at that two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and four bf Our exhibition in New Mexico, the

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<v Speaker 2>Hickorya all heard it. Hoyts Ranch heard that. And then

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<v Speaker 2>we hear him talk about it, kind of get any

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<v Speaker 2>words out. He heard that whole thing, So that that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of you know, kind of took me out of

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<v Speaker 2>the crazy house. And like he wouldn't say that, he

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<v Speaker 2>for sure had an encounter because he was just like

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<v Speaker 2>to like guyed his reputation too much like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't think I was so netty. After that, he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, there's something there, there's something there.

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<v Speaker 4>It was neat that your dad had a chance to

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<v Speaker 4>experience that. And I would say about your dad, your

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<v Speaker 4>dad is one of the people. And there's a handful

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<v Speaker 4>of them in everybody's life, I think, but your dad

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<v Speaker 4>is sincerely to me at least, one of the people

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<v Speaker 4>that made my life better for knowing him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyone that bad him and new them, I just

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<v Speaker 2>feelbout with the feel that, like what I feel abad

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<v Speaker 2>about him being not here anymore. The worst thing I

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<v Speaker 2>feel about, besides my mom, is all the people that

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get to meet him. You better live a good life.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to meetings, ago, go to have them

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<v Speaker 2>to see him from now on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there you go. There you go. If there is

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<v Speaker 4>an afterlife, which I assume there is, or because I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think life ends necessarily, I'm looking forward to high

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<v Speaker 4>fives with Fireball and some belly bumps. Belly bumps in

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<v Speaker 4>honor of his son.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, if you beat me there, yeah, give him

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<v Speaker 2>a give him a high Buddha for me too, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess that's it, folks. Thanks for joining us on

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<v Speaker 2>this fact filled Bigfoot episode. Thanks for joining us on

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<v Speaker 2>big Foot. Yeah, but we appreciate it. Hit like hit, share,

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<v Speaker 2>keep it squatchy.

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