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Speaker 3: And now you're hosts Cliff Barrickman and James Bubo Fay.
Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, welcome to Big Fing and Beyond with us
Speaker 4: Cliff and Bubo and Matt. We're all lurking around here
Speaker 4: somewhere in our various corners of the continents. How are
Speaker 4: you doing, Bubo and Matt h Cliff. It's Cliff and
Speaker 4: Bubbo and that and Matt parentheses Cliff and Bobo and
Speaker 4: capital letters and Matt in all in all lower case.
Speaker 3: That's exactly.
Speaker 4: I'm just happy to be here, which is so funny
Speaker 4: because like the show would be such garbage without you,
Speaker 4: just like that, we owe everything to you, Matt.
Speaker 2: It's like recyclable. It's not pure garbage.
Speaker 4: Oh no, this is like the worst kind of It
Speaker 4: would be like human feces wrapped in plastic or something
Speaker 4: like that, sent to the burn pile without Matt Pruitt.
Speaker 3: You guys are doing me a service because it's really
Speaker 3: hard to not talk for an hour being on a
Speaker 3: call with you guys. So I did that for five years.
Speaker 4: Bobo and I always talking when you're not in the
Speaker 4: room about how you need to talk more.
Speaker 3: You were missed at squadh Fest, Bobo. A lot a
Speaker 3: lot of people asked about you. We received a lot
Speaker 3: of pigeon related gifts. There was a lot of pigeonry
Speaker 3: going on, but lots of people were asking, like, is
Speaker 3: Bobo here? Is Bobo here? Is he going to be here?
Speaker 3: So you were definitely there in spirit. We should have
Speaker 3: set up the life sized cardboard cutout with the iPad
Speaker 3: and just had your FaceTime.
Speaker 2: Oh I got that, I still got I just remember that.
Speaker 2: I don't know where it is, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: have it still. I had it till very recently. Maybe
Speaker 2: I gave it away. I had that fold out thing
Speaker 2: that made me the It's like a it's like a
Speaker 2: stand like the Tripod stand, and there's like a seven
Speaker 2: foot and a half seven half foot aluminum cheft comes up,
Speaker 2: stands up out of it, and then attached is a
Speaker 2: roll up thing of blow I s put up at
Speaker 2: the of my picture at the conferences. It's like a
Speaker 2: seven foot tall bows.
Speaker 4: Like a window shade or something that he'd pull down,
Speaker 4: but opposite it goes up. Yeah, we could have used that.
Speaker 3: If we had that with a FaceTime thing, we could
Speaker 3: have our own Robo Bobo.
Speaker 4: Robo Bobo.
Speaker 2: Don't know the difference. That's a funny Thinker said.
Speaker 4: No one will know the difference. Oh, he loves you.
Speaker 2: Did you learn anything new?
Speaker 4: No, I mean I didn't because I didn't have a
Speaker 4: chance to see anybody else's presentation.
Speaker 3: I learned what Cliff is like when he's seething inside.
Speaker 3: I know that is he's indistinguishable from when he's happy
Speaker 3: and at peace. The only members heard that story. Our
Speaker 3: main listeners haven't heard that story.
Speaker 4: Should we tell it now?
Speaker 3: I think so because Bobo would get a kick out
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, it's a check this out both. So in
Speaker 4: the morning on Saturday, right before Squatch Fests, we decided, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, Matt and I were saying at the same hotel.
Speaker 4: Ken Gerhart was saying at the same hotel, and this
Speaker 4: guy named Kevin, one of Matt's friends. I'd never met before,
Speaker 4: but cool guy. I liked him a lot. So we
Speaker 4: decide to go to Denny's or whatever in the you know,
Speaker 4: in the parking lot before we head over to the venue.
Speaker 4: We have to be there at nine, right, So I
Speaker 4: figured eight o'clock. That's plenty of time. We'll be there early,
Speaker 4: no problem at all. So we go over to Denny's
Speaker 4: and we have we have a meal, you know, and
Speaker 4: then then on the way out, Matt was going to
Speaker 4: pay for my meal, which is very very nice of him,
Speaker 4: very very generous. Right, So I just kind of just
Speaker 4: go out to the car. I'm going to go warm
Speaker 4: up the car and get things going here, and so
Speaker 4: it'll be nice and warm and cozy when those guys
Speaker 4: hop in, and we'll all go to the venue together,
Speaker 4: all four of us, right, And so I go over there.
Speaker 4: I'm in my car and I turn it on and
Speaker 4: it's cold. It's like twenty something, twenty six or twenty
Speaker 4: eight or something. It's cold, and it's icy. It's all
Speaker 4: fogged in or not even fogged in. It's just like
Speaker 4: ice over, you know. So we're kind of waiting for
Speaker 4: everything to dethaught and all that sort of stuff, and
Speaker 4: I'm waiting for the guys to come out, and pretty
Speaker 4: soon Ken and Matt come out and get in the car.
Speaker 4: But Kevin's not there, and I figured out, okay, well,
Speaker 4: probably need to use rescue or something. And a few
Speaker 4: minutes later, still going and thinking, oh, you must have
Speaker 4: to take a dump, right, So I'm like waiting.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's getting around with you. I thought, oh, so
Speaker 2: it wasn't just right there, you can. Oh the venue
Speaker 2: wasn't right there.
Speaker 4: Now, the venue wasn't right there. It was like a
Speaker 4: six minute drive, you know. And we got up from
Speaker 4: the table at like eight forty eight. So okay, we're
Speaker 4: gonna be right on time basically after I park and
Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff. So okay, cool, Well, okay, well,
Speaker 4: so I guess Kevin's taking a dump and I'm waiting,
Speaker 4: and like pretty soon it's it's it's eight fifty five,
Speaker 4: and I'm thinking, oh, shoot, man, we're gonna be a
Speaker 4: couple minutes late.
Speaker 3: That sucks.
Speaker 4: And then like waiting and stuff, and pretty soon it's
Speaker 4: it's nine and I'm thinking, oh, man, he's making it's late.
Speaker 4: What's up with that? He must be sick?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: This sucks, you know, And then like nine oh five comes,
Speaker 4: it comes and goes, and I'm just like going, what
Speaker 4: the hell's up with this guy?
Speaker 2: Irove off.
Speaker 4: Well, I would, I would, I was. I was pretty
Speaker 4: I was getting real pissed because I don't like to
Speaker 4: be late, you know, like I like it. It's one thing, Bobus,
Speaker 4: if you're late and we're waiting for you, that doesn't
Speaker 4: bother me anymore world friends. But if I'm late, that
Speaker 4: pisses me off. Pisses me off, you know. Then I'm thinking,
Speaker 4: what the hell's wrong with this guy? You know, like that,
Speaker 4: why am I Why am I being unprofessional now in
Speaker 4: the eyes of the people who hired me to go
Speaker 4: speak because of this guy's intestinal problems, And I'm just
Speaker 4: like fuming, and it's building and building, you know, and
Speaker 4: like I'm getting pissed. Man, I'm getting really pissed in Well,
Speaker 4: I guess I'll head it over to Matt. I guess.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so uh, I guess Cliff didn't hear it.
Speaker 3: But when we were getting in the vehicle, Kevin was like, Hey,
Speaker 3: I'm going to drive my own car over to squatch Fest,
Speaker 3: so I'm just going to walk back to the hotel
Speaker 3: from denny They're like, okay, that's cool. So we go
Speaker 3: have breakfast at Denny's and then as I'm getting up
Speaker 3: to pay. I didn't realize Cliff had already gone outside
Speaker 3: to warm up the car, and Kevin reiterated, hey, guys,
Speaker 3: i'll see a squashfest. I'm going to walk back to
Speaker 3: the hotel and get my car and drive it over there.
Speaker 3: Like okay, cool man. So like Ken and I pay
Speaker 3: our tabs, we go sit in the car and we're
Speaker 3: just sitting there in silence, and Cliff's kind of like
Speaker 3: half smiling, just staring straight ahead, and I'm watching the
Speaker 3: ice melt off his windows, and I'm looking around and
Speaker 3: like the ice kind of melts. I was like, after
Speaker 3: a few minutes, like Cliff said, I keep looking at
Speaker 3: the clock and inching closer than nine. And I finally
Speaker 3: was like, hey man, I think the windows are pretty clear,
Speaker 3: and Clips like, oh, yeah, they're clear. I can see.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, cool. So we'll wait a couple
Speaker 3: of minutes. So I'm like, oh, he's waiting on something else.
Speaker 3: So I look out the back and it's a little
Speaker 3: opaque looking, so I was like, oh, are you waiting
Speaker 3: on the back to d ice, He's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: it's it's not icy. That's just a little bit of
Speaker 3: dust that the sunlight's hitting that's why it looks. And
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, He's like, yeah, I'm cool to drive.
Speaker 3: So I look back down to get it. I keep
Speaker 3: looking at Cliff. He's just kind of smiling, staring straight ahead, calmly.
Speaker 3: And finally I was like, so, what are we waiting on?
Speaker 3: And he was like, I'm waiting on your friend, dude,
Speaker 3: I've been waiting on him this whole time, and so
Speaker 3: Ken and I were like, oh, dude, he walked back
Speaker 3: to the hotel like fifteen minutes ago.
Speaker 4: So I got all bent out of shape and all
Speaker 4: tighten and not over nothing. Man, it took me like
Speaker 4: half hour to release all that stress.
Speaker 2: I lost it.
Speaker 3: Kin was like, I wondered, what the hell you're waiting on?
Speaker 3: So we were all just three sitting in silent peace,
Speaker 3: wondering why we were late. For fifteen minutes of limited
Speaker 3: separate realities. Ken and I were the frogs in the
Speaker 3: boiling pot of cliffs Anger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's not easy to make me mad, but
Speaker 4: when I'm mad, I stay mad. Like you know, when
Speaker 4: I'm happy, I stay happy. It takes a long time
Speaker 4: for me to get anywhere, and by the time I'm there, gosh, darted,
Speaker 4: I'm going to stay there. So it took me like
Speaker 4: a half hour for me to like let all that
Speaker 4: stuff go.
Speaker 3: It was pretty hilarious because, like I said, you would
Speaker 3: never if you just looked at Cliff, you would have
Speaker 3: think he was just like peaceful and happy. I thought, like, oh,
Speaker 3: he's just a really conscientious driver. He just does not
Speaker 3: want to drive this two miles with any ice on
Speaker 3: the windows.
Speaker 4: Well, the barometric press pressure was off. There's no way
Speaker 4: I could drive in this situation.
Speaker 3: Exactly. It was a good time though. We had a
Speaker 3: good time. You were very missed. A lot of people
Speaker 3: asked about you. Our good friend Wes Germer. We went
Speaker 3: hung out with him.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was gonna say. I know.
Speaker 4: Wes was gone twice really because Matt Prude did the
Speaker 4: event at the museum on Thursday, and West showed up
Speaker 4: right before Matt spoke and had him over at the house.
Speaker 4: We had a little fire or whatever. And of course
Speaker 4: I don't know if Wes listens all the time, but
Speaker 4: of course Wes fell in love with Sochi my dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's what he said. I heard his podcast.
Speaker 4: Oh really, Oh that's what he talked about her.
Speaker 2: I heard maybe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, now he refers to Sochi as his dog.
Speaker 2: Oh, you should give it to her now, she's like
Speaker 2: full of vet bills.
Speaker 4: No, no, no.
Speaker 2: I'm so Chi.
Speaker 4: I belonged to soci more than she belongs to me.
Speaker 3: There was a fan who brought us some pretty rad
Speaker 3: little wind up pigeon toys. So now your sculpted Bobo, haad,
Speaker 3: your representation in the museum has a pigeon on its shoulder, Bobo.
Speaker 2: Oh awesome. Ye I was at a flock of the
Speaker 2: pigeons this last week and yeah, I know you guys
Speaker 2: know that we have the same thing to the audience hip.
Speaker 2: But yeah, my dad, Fireball passed away, and so we
Speaker 2: had his memorial celebration of life on Saturday. How was that, man, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Barton and the Yams were there. They can kill you
Speaker 2: in on it. It was pretty awesome. It was. We got
Speaker 2: about fifty comments and notes and cards saying I felt
Speaker 2: like I should have paid for a stand up comedy
Speaker 2: show ticket for that because everyone was telling Fireball stories.
Speaker 4: No, that's good. How's your mom doing.
Speaker 2: She's taking it tough, but she's you know, she's got
Speaker 2: to pull through, so she's just plugging away.
Speaker 4: I love me some Alice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot she's getting a lot of love
Speaker 2: and a lot of people stopping by, like there was
Speaker 2: tons of food getting dropped off as usual, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And of course you know we've kind of
Speaker 4: been covering for you a little bit on the podcast
Speaker 4: and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: And so now that everybody knows what the reason was,
Speaker 4: I hope all the people who tried to make you
Speaker 4: feel guilty about it feel like crap?
Speaker 2: Did people try to make you feel guilty? I didn't
Speaker 2: even know.
Speaker 4: Here's Bobo. How come he's done bib blah blah. That's
Speaker 4: not the same did you do?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, go suck it now, you know. Hope you feel bad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't say anything, did he want? You know,
Speaker 3: when people are asking where you were and say, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, Bobo had obligations, So now they'll they'll understand.
Speaker 3: But I do encourage people because you know, I hadn't
Speaker 3: seen all the old Finding Bigfoot episodes and so not
Speaker 3: that long ago, maybe two or three weeks ago, Emily
Speaker 3: and I watched the Bulbo's Backyard episode, so we could
Speaker 3: see Bart and heavy Metal Pat and obviously Fireballs in
Speaker 3: that episode, So people should definitely go watch that. I
Speaker 3: loved getting to see that after all these years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, but he was he
Speaker 2: had just slowed down that point. It just had like
Speaker 2: his heart procedure, and I think he was to see
Speaker 2: he was probably geez like seventy eight seventy nine when
Speaker 2: that was filmed, like he kind of started slow down
Speaker 2: and it turned like seventy five sixty really slowed down it.
Speaker 2: Before that, he was rocking hard.
Speaker 3: There's some amazing baby photos of you in that episode
Speaker 3: two bro, when.
Speaker 2: I'm super fat. That one where I'm holding a little ball.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's like a black and white one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's my pride and joy. You should be proud.
Speaker 3: It's an epic photo.
Speaker 2: My mom won like a case of diapers. I was
Speaker 2: the biggest baby born at the hospital that month. You
Speaker 2: look at that photo, you also understand the story about
Speaker 2: when I was two years old, I got my first haircut.
Speaker 2: Can never give me a haircut because I was just
Speaker 2: so like just screaming and kicking and like just going crazy.
Speaker 2: They couldn't hold me down. I get a haircut. Then
Speaker 2: my mom realized that she just kept sticking Eminem's in
Speaker 2: my mouth. I sit still so they could cut my hair.
Speaker 2: And she took me to the barber and she went
Speaker 2: through a pound of Eminems and they were like over
Speaker 2: halfway down at the haircut. Then they had to she
Speaker 2: had to stop and run down to the store and
Speaker 2: get another pound of Eminems and bring them back and
Speaker 2: keep shoving into my mouth so I could finish the haircut.
Speaker 2: So that photo makes a lot more sense.
Speaker 3: Then now we know how to deal with can't take
Speaker 3: ris Bobo in the future.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, we never record in the same room. If
Speaker 4: only we did, I'd have Eminem's on hand all the time.
Speaker 3: Well, you've got an inside woman, You've got contacts with Krita,
Speaker 3: so you could bet Karita have a pound of Eminem's
Speaker 3: on hand.
Speaker 4: Oh that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3: Hey.
Speaker 4: Speaking of which, you know, like, as we're recording this,
Speaker 4: it's like the last week of January. Are we are
Speaker 4: we doing the women Folk on the podcast for Valentine's
Speaker 4: Day this year?
Speaker 3: Yes, we do, so that Thursday, I think is the thirteenth,
Speaker 3: the day before Valentine's Day, So that'll be a special
Speaker 3: members on the episode that will come out on that Thursday.
Speaker 3: And so members will get a chance to ask questions
Speaker 3: of the significant others for the second year in a row.
Speaker 4: Now that's cool. Now do we hang out or we
Speaker 4: just like let them loose and then this prey.
Speaker 2: No, we got to correct them all the time.
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't know.
Speaker 4: A quorum is two out of three of us, I think.
Speaker 3: So for those of you who are non members, what
Speaker 3: we did last time is like each of us sat
Speaker 3: with the significant other like around one microphone each. So
Speaker 3: Cliff and Melissa were at Cliffs Bobo and Create at Bobo's,
Speaker 3: and Emily and I at my house. So and I
Speaker 3: had all the questions submitted blind, you know, so I
Speaker 3: would pop them in the chat and then we'd go
Speaker 3: around the table as members were asking questions of the
Speaker 3: significant others. You know, every question was for all three,
Speaker 3: like what's the most endearing thing about your man? What's
Speaker 3: the most embarrassing thing your man does? And it was
Speaker 3: quite hilarious. So if you want to hear that old
Speaker 3: episode or hear the upcoming one and maybe get your
Speaker 3: question asked, sign up for five dollars a month, folks, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, how much brother? They asked. All the regular questions
Speaker 2: got asked already. No.
Speaker 3: I think when people hear, especially some of your stories,
Speaker 3: every one of your stories generates like a new five
Speaker 3: hundred questions.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with
Speaker 4: Cliff and Bobo will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking that because my brother was
Speaker 2: telling some two forty was telling stories that, uh, you're
Speaker 2: just giving the eulogy at my dad's deal.
Speaker 4: Is your brother's name?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I've known you for how long? And I don't think
Speaker 4: I've ever known that your brother's name is two forty,
Speaker 4: although I have to admit I don't know what your
Speaker 4: brother's name is.
Speaker 2: Four.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I mean your dad's name is Fireball too. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so I guess it makes sense. So why is his
Speaker 4: name two forty?
Speaker 2: In high school he weighed two hundred and forty pounds.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I guess all right? Sure, anyway, two forty
Speaker 4: he was at the eulogy.
Speaker 2: He told a couple of stories that I forgot I
Speaker 2: was even involved in, probably for the best. Yeah. One
Speaker 2: involved uh filonious act, no charges pressed, allegedly, No, it
Speaker 2: was you know, I was thinking, like, for the next
Speaker 2: Bobo storytell I could have him do that one.
Speaker 3: It would be good if there's anyone to share now,
Speaker 3: because it has been a long time since we've done
Speaker 3: a Bobo storytime. People ask about it on a regular
Speaker 3: basis way gather around. It's Boomo story, Dude. He's going
Speaker 3: to see some things that all Boo classic. Anc He's flying,
Speaker 3: He's going a kid kill me high.
Speaker 2: For your once again Boobo story.
Speaker 3: Any description of felonious or criminal activity is being told
Speaker 3: here strictly for entertainment purposes, and is in no way
Speaker 3: admission of guilt or even true for that matter.
Speaker 2: Our friend, our buddy Dredd dread Tread in forty, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was. His mom was super sweet. She actually just
Speaker 2: passed away last week. He's my buddy Dread that works
Speaker 2: for Little Lakers. But anyways, we were in Palm Springs
Speaker 2: and we were like the other, like my older brother,
Speaker 2: and all the older kids were like old enough to
Speaker 2: go out and party whatever. They left us behind. And
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I remember there was an eighth forty
Speaker 2: was an eighth grade. I was a sophomore and our
Speaker 2: Dread's mom, missus Kelly, rented us a golf cart to
Speaker 2: go out and play golf, and we didn't know how
Speaker 2: to golf, so we just went out there and just
Speaker 2: he goes, yeah about the fourth hole. There was no
Speaker 2: roof on the cart because Bill would rolled it twice.
Speaker 2: And then at the end we came walking back like
Speaker 2: an hour late, hour and a half late because I
Speaker 2: was driving crazy and I drove it into I crashed
Speaker 2: into the creek and the cart ended up two feet underwater,
Speaker 2: and like you know, the electrons goot fly Friday was
Speaker 2: elect electric cart and and then forty those guys like
Speaker 2: we're busted. I was like, no, we're not. We're we're
Speaker 2: going to sue these guys for faulty breaks and a
Speaker 2: defective cart. Thing's a piece of crap. And so I
Speaker 2: went down there and I was yelling about how we
Speaker 2: were suing and all this stuff, and missus Kelly didn't
Speaker 2: find out about it. Nothing like no charge on our
Speaker 2: credit card, nothing like, we never heard anything more about it.
Speaker 2: But it should have been like, well, I crashed it
Speaker 2: off the off the course too, so it could have
Speaker 2: been like a theft and destruction charge over over thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: As a philony that was like a five thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Card that was just a harbinger of things to come
Speaker 3: with your rental question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the things that a lot of people
Speaker 4: probably don't know about your dad, Fireball, is that he
Speaker 4: would take kind of like ne'er do wells, like kids
Speaker 4: in the juvenile justice system and all that sort of
Speaker 4: stuff on, like work patrols and like kind of set
Speaker 4: him straight out of like tough love and stuff. And
Speaker 4: he was this this this well of unending tough love
Speaker 4: for people much like you, like these nerdy Wells out
Speaker 4: now doing stuff. And it sometimes it occurs to me
Speaker 4: that if you were caught or prosecuted or any you
Speaker 4: had some sort of legal consequence for any of these
Speaker 4: dozens and dozens and dozens of actions that you took,
Speaker 4: you'd have just ended up with your dad.
Speaker 2: Hey, no, you won't. I'll kill it before you make
Speaker 2: it that far.
Speaker 4: That's your dad's voice. I know that's that's you're doing
Speaker 4: your dad's voice there, right.
Speaker 2: He had a scared it up that that happened. And yeah,
Speaker 2: he had the worst kids in La County.
Speaker 4: Like, do mean you in ten forty or whatever your
Speaker 4: brother's name is.
Speaker 2: No, No, the camp like it was like the worst
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty kids in La County on that
Speaker 2: were like murderers and all this stuff, but they weren't.
Speaker 2: They weren't. They hadn't got for something bad enough. They
Speaker 2: committed the same crimes as the kids in Cy. But
Speaker 2: the Youth Authority which is the prison system of youths
Speaker 2: in California, which is like super and they say the
Speaker 2: way deadlier and way and earlier than regular like even
Speaker 2: like San Quentin and stuff. But he had like kids
Speaker 2: like equivalent of that, and they were unarmed camp They
Speaker 2: only had like like you know, maybe seven or eight
Speaker 2: staff members working in like one hundred and fifty you know,
Speaker 2: gang bangers and whatever.
Speaker 4: So the staff was unarmed, but the clients probably weren't.
Speaker 2: So they had fireball was classic d he'd it was
Speaker 2: up in the mountains and they're almost all almost all
Speaker 2: were inner city kids, like U. Seventy of them never
Speaker 2: even been to the beach. They lived in La County.
Speaker 2: But anyways, he would show them, like he had a
Speaker 2: VCR tape of like national geographic like crocodiles snatching buffaloes
Speaker 2: and grizzly bears tearing up moose and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: He'd show it to the new kids and be like
Speaker 2: if you get out of here at night. This is
Speaker 2: what's gonna get if you had down this. If you
Speaker 2: guys stick, there's no fences up in the mountains. Whip
Speaker 2: in the mountains like seventy five hundred feet elevation, and
Speaker 2: so they get snow and stuff, and they'd get black
Speaker 2: bears would come in all the time, and they'd leave
Speaker 2: a little garbage oop by the dumpsters. So the bears
Speaker 2: would come in because it would scare the crap out
Speaker 2: of the kids. They wouldn't run away. They had like
Speaker 2: maybe three attempt to skate escape attempts in like twenty
Speaker 2: something years he was there, twenty five years whatever, and
Speaker 2: none of them, none of them made it. But yeah, fireballs.
Speaker 2: And then he'd play basketball at the ball and they
Speaker 2: loved him, like because we asked him, We say, fire Ball,
Speaker 2: aren't you worried about these kids? Like, aren't you worried
Speaker 2: with them? Like you guys throat and you sleep, and
Speaker 2: he is, there's a riot. I'll be fine. They'll bring
Speaker 2: me a book in a chair and a blanket. Told
Speaker 2: me to kick back while they get the rest of
Speaker 2: these guys. Because he wasn't worried about what he was
Speaker 2: but once we were at the Forum. This was like
Speaker 2: when the Lakers were like, you know, the greatest whatever
Speaker 2: showtime Lakers, like in the late eighties. It's probably like
Speaker 2: eighty eight, probably eighty seven, eighty eight. And we were
Speaker 2: walking through the concourse with my dad. He always was
Speaker 2: a little IRUs, not nervous, but he'd always keep his
Speaker 2: eye when we were like in situations like Dodger Stadium
Speaker 2: or something like that where we might see people from
Speaker 2: his kids, from his work, and uh, we're walking through
Speaker 2: and here comes like these ten twelve bloods and there's
Speaker 2: these dudes and this one guy in front of it,
Speaker 2: like mister Peanut, Like he had a giant top hat on.
Speaker 2: He had a golden crusted cane, and they were all
Speaker 2: wearing like Laker warm up suits, like you know, like
Speaker 2: the like the official team ones. And uh and he
Speaker 2: had a Laker's warm jersey warm up suit fashioned into
Speaker 2: a custom tuxedo, and so a couple of other guys
Speaker 2: then they had like you know, diamond and gold bracelets
Speaker 2: and you know, red rags tied around their head, you know,
Speaker 2: like like mixed it with like you know, their blood,
Speaker 2: you know, signs. And we were walking and Farmer goes, oh,
Speaker 2: you guys. Keep He's kind of like, you know, I
Speaker 2: kind of hesitated for something. Also here, mister Faye, mister Fay.
Speaker 2: They come running up. They're like, you know, hugging in
Speaker 2: and like doing like those handslap you know, hellos, like
Speaker 2: like some weird form of patty cakes, you know, like backhands,
Speaker 2: slap it and up high, down low and snapping fingers,
Speaker 2: you know, like that whole thing. Fire Ball do all
Speaker 2: that stuff, and they're just going, oh man, this is
Speaker 2: your signs is your sons. He goes, yeah, this is
Speaker 2: my boys, and and they're all yoh man, like they're
Speaker 2: hugging us and saying like, what's up. And then they
Speaker 2: emphasize several times anyone ever asked your family, anyone ever
Speaker 2: asked us faith you let us know, will kill them.
Speaker 2: We'll kill them anyone messes with him or like I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, good to know, good to know, thanks guys. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was just like one of the Fireball
Speaker 2: Fireball deals.
Speaker 4: Fireball is the best man, like like a god amongst men.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 4: He really was, He really was. You know those times
Speaker 4: I've had to just hanging out with them, and he
Speaker 4: came out of the road. I don't remember where we were,
Speaker 4: but I remember hanging out with him for hours in
Speaker 4: like the the lobby of the Big Bear. Big Bear,
Speaker 4: Is that where it was. I guess it makes sense.
Speaker 4: It were dripping up or something. The best man. Love
Speaker 4: that guy.
Speaker 3: Just love them.
Speaker 4: So, Bobo, do you think that dealing with troubled youth,
Speaker 4: you know, like the youth that are in trouble with
Speaker 4: the law and kind of ne'er do wells, Which I
Speaker 4: don't say that is a bad thing, by the way,
Speaker 4: because the bad kids in my class were always my
Speaker 4: faves in a lot of ways when I was a teacher.
Speaker 4: But do you think that dealing with them helped him
Speaker 4: raise you? Or do you think that raising you helped
Speaker 4: him deal with them?
Speaker 2: Oh, he was dealing with those guys before we were born.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So he just kind of sculpted you into
Speaker 4: one of them.
Speaker 3: See. I think it's like natural selection, you know, where
Speaker 3: the environment shapes the animals that evolve in it. So
Speaker 3: I think because Bobo was he evolved in an environment
Speaker 3: with like a hyper vigilant person who knew how to
Speaker 3: deal with troubled youth. Bobo's evolution was like to be
Speaker 3: undetectably like Boba is like a more advanced life form
Speaker 3: of wild man, you know what I mean, because he
Speaker 3: already had watchful eyes on him, so he had to
Speaker 3: be more cautious. You're like, what of those bugs that
Speaker 3: evolved to look like a leaf so other things wouldn't eat?
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good funt for good point.
Speaker 4: A lot of people say that Bobo's like one of
Speaker 4: those bugs had evolved to look like a leaf.
Speaker 2: If I had a nickel for a time, I heard that.
Speaker 4: You'd have like three bucks, which is pretty good if
Speaker 4: you're if your if your currency is nickels.
Speaker 3: So you did get whooped a lot, so you fireball
Speaker 3: call you a few times?
Speaker 2: Oh dude, all the time. Not all the time, but
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 3: What was the what was the worst whooping? You think?
Speaker 3: What was the thing that he was like, Okay, this
Speaker 3: can't slide. That might be a good Bobo story time.
Speaker 2: When I got kicked out of Catholic school in seventh grade.
Speaker 3: See, I haven't even heard that story.
Speaker 2: I got the wooden spoon. We were sitting in class
Speaker 2: and I love books, you know, but we were on
Speaker 2: the second floor and uh, I forget what brought it on.
Speaker 2: But I was just like, there's like a cyclopeda is
Speaker 2: there and I love the encycle the video, but I
Speaker 2: just sit there. I was like about the window, it
Speaker 2: is like a nice sunny day. And then none was
Speaker 2: turned around writing on the board. I just took a
Speaker 2: secondpedia to throw it out the window, and there's like
Speaker 2: this flopping sound, you know, and she turned around and
Speaker 2: then a snack when it hit the cement down below,
Speaker 2: and so I kept doing that. I ended up throwing
Speaker 2: like thirty thirty five books out the window. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: there was a pile down below. Then the janitor was like,
Speaker 2: what the hell? We heard it done below? What the hell?
Speaker 2: Because one came down when he was downe and almost
Speaker 2: hit him. So I got kicked out and then the
Speaker 2: Headnne sister of Gloria, booted me. And my mom was
Speaker 2: the fifth grade teacher there, so she was fortified. My
Speaker 2: dad had to come from take off work and come
Speaker 2: get me, and he was whenever he had to come
Speaker 2: if we got suspended or I got suspended, since my
Speaker 2: brothers never did. That was like the word like you
Speaker 2: knew you were going to get your ass beat with
Speaker 2: the wooden spoon.
Speaker 4: The spoon's the worst man. I'd rather have a belt
Speaker 4: than a spoon.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. So then the compromise he made for me
Speaker 2: to go back to schools that that was the the
Speaker 2: end of the year. It was like September. I had
Speaker 2: to sit in a supply room the whole seventh grade year.
Speaker 2: They've made in the supply room closet. It's a big room.
Speaker 2: Wasn't really a closet. It was like out the size
Speaker 2: of a classroom. And some of the dads that were
Speaker 2: contractors when they remodeled the school that had end of
Speaker 2: the school, they it was the principal's office, and they
Speaker 2: split the principal's office in half and made half the
Speaker 2: supply room. But they they framed the whole thing out
Speaker 2: and put in like all the ducting and electrical and
Speaker 2: piping and all that before they measured the doorway, and
Speaker 2: so her big principal's desk couldn't fit through, so it
Speaker 2: was in a supply room closet. So that became my id.
Speaker 2: They gave me a little desk, so I just instantly
Speaker 2: switched out to make my desk. So I sent this
Speaker 2: whole semester in the supply room. I had a copy
Speaker 2: machine in there. I was copying off ice cream tickets
Speaker 2: for we got for lunch, been selling them for a dime.
Speaker 2: I was selling liquid paper bottles like a quarter. And
Speaker 2: then I had boxes and boxes of paper clips and
Speaker 2: rubber bands and stuff, and I was we'd always do
Speaker 2: those paper clip fights, you know, th rubber bands when
Speaker 2: you cut them and you break them in half and
Speaker 2: make them like little v's and you so I Coo
Speaker 2: would be walking through the hallways and snipe out him
Speaker 2: like everyone everyone remembers that, walking out of the hallway
Speaker 2: and snap like all of sudden, getting whizzed by a
Speaker 2: half paper clip. You know it's done. And so yeah,
Speaker 2: I was in the supply room for a whole year,
Speaker 2: and I had a TV in there, I'd plug in.
Speaker 4: Doesn't sound like much of a punishment, honestly.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Only Bobo can turn solitary confinement into like a business opportunity.
Speaker 4: An opportunity to do more mischief.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But then I was grounded that whole time too.
Speaker 2: I didn't go to the beach once that summer.
Speaker 3: And that was seventh grade, So you clearly stopped your
Speaker 3: antics after that point, right, I.
Speaker 4: Learned my lessons scared straight man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all straight and narrow from then on out.
Speaker 2: I thought you might jump into the the old locomotive
Speaker 2: of the I showed the pit, the scene, old locomotive,
Speaker 2: the locomotion, the abulation.
Speaker 4: Oh you want to talk about that? Yeah, because theoretically
Speaker 4: this is kind of a topical episode. Even though those
Speaker 4: kind of news to all of us, including all of
Speaker 4: all three of us around the table here, this is
Speaker 4: a topical episode where you know, Cliff and Bobo and
Speaker 4: Matt hangout and talk about various news items that caught
Speaker 4: over attention over the last say month or something like that. Altho,
Speaker 4: we've been doing these a little bit more frequently, like
Speaker 4: every six weeks or so. Is that about right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I say that's about right, because you know, in
Speaker 3: the beginning, we were just kind of loosely paying attention
Speaker 3: to when articles would come in and we'd pop one
Speaker 3: or two over, and so it would take a while
Speaker 3: from them to accumulate. But lately it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: every month, we've got like eight or ten or twelve,
Speaker 3: depending on you know, how many news items pop up.
Speaker 3: So it's been more frequent just to cover everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't mind a bit because you know, I'd
Speaker 4: read the news pretty much every day, and you know,
Speaker 4: I like the paleoanthropological stuff to kind of pull my
Speaker 4: head away from the nonsensical politics crap that's out there,
Speaker 4: and you know, the division and this guy's a bad guy,
Speaker 4: and that's on your side and this my side, that side,
Speaker 4: whatever politics, man, anybody, you know what, if you believe
Speaker 4: in either side, they've already got you. You've already lost
Speaker 4: up theirs up ours. So yeah, so whenever we can
Speaker 4: take a look at the news and look at some
Speaker 4: good things, you know, Australia Pittes scenes or this fossil
Speaker 4: find or that fossil find or this sort of ecological study,
Speaker 4: it's a good it's a good day. So we have
Speaker 4: a couple of those right now, and Boba, do you
Speaker 4: want to go? Do you want to start with the
Speaker 4: australa Pittes scenes weren't good runners? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds it was pretty cool to who wasn't
Speaker 2: those guys, just as there was recent study. But the
Speaker 2: Australia pithic is at forensis, which was Lucy, the famous Lucy.
Speaker 2: They think with these new modern three D bottling techniques
Speaker 2: and Musco skeletal simulations. They're able to explore how Lucy's
Speaker 2: body moved. They've uncovered new critical details about the evolution
Speaker 2: of human running. And surprisingly, we always thought they must
Speaker 2: be good runners because they were so bustle bound, but
Speaker 2: they really weren't there. They were slower. So guess their
Speaker 2: top speed was approximately eleven miles an hour, significantly slower
Speaker 2: than we are.
Speaker 4: Well speak for yourself, bobus, you're very, very fast.
Speaker 3: I've seen Bobo do multiple takes running in front of
Speaker 3: a car going fifty five miles an hour and outrun
Speaker 3: it every time, so I can attest to this.
Speaker 4: Bobo is astonishingly fast, even like when you know when
Speaker 4: an age was creeping up on us, and I remember
Speaker 4: several times like then, you don't know this. You don't
Speaker 4: know this, Bobo, but a couple of times when you
Speaker 4: had to go do things and like I was hanging
Speaker 4: out with Hammel or whatever while you were doing various
Speaker 4: takes of things with Dana. They either are camera people
Speaker 4: and funny bag. But several times, now, kid you not, Chad.
Speaker 4: Chad turned to me and said, holy crap, he's really fast.
Speaker 4: I said, yeah, it's the bows Man.
Speaker 3: When we were filming that scene, I remember one of
Speaker 3: the Ping Pong people telling me they were like, dude,
Speaker 3: this is like not even stunt guys do this. They
Speaker 3: were like, this is his super qualified stunt work. And
Speaker 3: if this was a union shoot or whatever, there's no
Speaker 3: way they would let this happen.
Speaker 2: I was heard about logging boots and it was darker
Speaker 2: and Dae driving and Rendee driving. That's the scape righterst
Speaker 2: we just do. That was before we do. Renee wasn't
Speaker 2: was like a terrible driver before she had those crashes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we knew Matt. We knew Matt was a driver.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to say a terrible driver, because he's not.
Speaker 2: He's awesome.
Speaker 4: Matt Moneymaker is a very good driver. He rarely hits
Speaker 4: anything and and and you know there's that thing in
Speaker 4: the UK episode where he clips something and we don't
Speaker 4: know what it was and all that stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 4: so we didn't want Matt to drive. We figured, ouh, Renee,
Speaker 4: she'll be conservative like now, We just didn't know any
Speaker 4: better at the time. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and
Speaker 4: Beyond with Cliff and Bogo. We'll be right back after
Speaker 4: these messages. Okay, well anyway, but back to the article
Speaker 4: at least. Yeah, so apparently Lucy, remember now Lucy and
Speaker 4: Australio Pithecus af forensis, which is what Lucy was, They
Speaker 4: were tiny. They were like three or four feet tall,
Speaker 4: so eleven miles per hour for a you know, a
Speaker 4: three and a half foot four foot tall chimpanzee, man woman.
Speaker 4: I guess in this case, I think that's pretty good.
Speaker 4: I don't, I don't mind it. I think that's pretty good.
Speaker 4: And of course, the real clincher for me, at least
Speaker 4: in this article isn't so much that Lucy was slower,
Speaker 4: because in a way you can almost expect it because
Speaker 4: she is so tiny and stuff. And you know, when
Speaker 4: you look at an animal, you can tell a lot
Speaker 4: about what they do. Like human beings, we have the
Speaker 4: same number of hair follicles pretty much more or less
Speaker 4: as all the other Grade eight species, which and one
Speaker 4: could presume all the hominin species that come before us
Speaker 4: as well, right, but we don't have hair growing out
Speaker 4: of all of our follicles anymore. And you know, if
Speaker 4: you want to count them to take a shower, get
Speaker 4: out of the shower, look down right, And every one
Speaker 4: of those goosebumps on you is a hair follicle. Now
Speaker 4: you may not have hair coming out of them anymore,
Speaker 4: but they are in full state, full of pilo erection
Speaker 4: at that point, standing on in. That's what that's what
Speaker 4: a goosebumps is. If you were covered in hair, they'd
Speaker 4: all be standing straight up, right, That's what pelo erection is.
Speaker 4: So if you look down, those were all hair follicles.
Speaker 4: So we don't have those anymore. That's because our ancestors
Speaker 4: shed them for so heat can escape. So we didn't
Speaker 4: die of heat exhaustion as we ran across the African
Speaker 4: plains because our ancestors were persistence hunters, you know. And
Speaker 4: that basically means that you know, like if we look
Speaker 4: at that goat, and I, like most of us, soon
Speaker 4: we see a goat, we go that goat looks delicious,
Speaker 4: I'd like to eat it, and so one of us
Speaker 4: would start chasing it, and then eventually we'd get tired,
Speaker 4: and we kind of tagged team our friend or our
Speaker 4: family member or our tribe member in and then they
Speaker 4: would chase the goat. And then when that person got tired,
Speaker 4: then they would tag team that person and etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 4: So the humans were essentially giving ourselves breaks where we
Speaker 4: didn't have to run, but the goat never got a break.
Speaker 4: And then the goat or whatever prey item it was
Speaker 4: would eventually kind of collapse out of exhaustion. We would
Speaker 4: fall upon it and reacavioc and kill it and eat
Speaker 4: it essentially. So that's why we have lost our hair
Speaker 4: covering because we were designed human Homo sapiens, and perhaps
Speaker 4: some of our ancestors. We don't know, because we don't
Speaker 4: have any you know, evidence necessarily of it. We kind
Speaker 4: of assume some things. We assume Homo erectus was not
Speaker 4: hair covered, but how do we know. We really have
Speaker 4: no idea, I think at this point. So and if
Speaker 4: I'm wrong, please email the podcast with some sort of
Speaker 4: like articles so I can read and learn about it.
Speaker 4: But humans don't have that hair covering anymore, so we
Speaker 4: can radiate the heat out to the environment. That's also,
Speaker 4: by the way, why we have our foot structure like
Speaker 4: it is with the arch. You know that arch there
Speaker 4: is actually made to absorb some of the shock of
Speaker 4: running for long distances and also give us a little
Speaker 4: bit extra like spring toward step. That's humans are designed
Speaker 4: for that. And when you look at australopithesceenes, they simply aren't.
Speaker 4: They simply aren't. They are pretty robust a lot of them,
Speaker 4: even the more grass sile ones. You know that they've
Speaker 4: got a pretty pear shaped body for the most part
Speaker 4: because of their pelvic shape, you know, which which suggests
Speaker 4: or actually we know that it increases the mass per
Speaker 4: surface area. They many of these species very likely had
Speaker 4: a flexible foot that have any sort of arch. There's
Speaker 4: some debate about that. I think a lot of paleoanthropologists
Speaker 4: look at the data and say that no, they had
Speaker 4: an arch. And I know that as there's a bias
Speaker 4: out there because from what I understand last thing I heard,
Speaker 4: and I could be wrong, like there are zero or
Speaker 4: very very very very very close to zero homoerectus. Maybe
Speaker 4: I'm wrong about this, in which case I'm sure I'll
Speaker 4: hear about it. But they but textbooks actually say that
Speaker 4: home erect has had an arch without any evidence whatsoever.
Speaker 4: So I know there's some sort of bias out there.
Speaker 4: These ostralopithesnes, some of them they say had arches. But
Speaker 4: I kind of wonder about it and the fact that
Speaker 4: they are covered in hair, or you assume they're covered
Speaker 4: in hair. I guess they probably were. I think at
Speaker 4: that point implies that they're not made for that they're
Speaker 4: not made for this fast running thing. You know, they
Speaker 4: had a different ecological niche, and I guess that's what
Speaker 4: really this is highlighting. Even though the title the headline
Speaker 4: is they don't run fast, I think the real headline
Speaker 4: is they serve a different ecological niche, which brings us
Speaker 4: back to sasquatch well.
Speaker 2: And also but on the running cliff, it says they're
Speaker 2: running required Lucy to expand one point seven to three
Speaker 2: times more energy than a modern human, making her locomotion
Speaker 2: far less efficient.
Speaker 4: Right, So therefore she probably wouldn't have used it as often,
Speaker 4: which comes around to the ambush predator model that people
Speaker 4: have like Matt Prout, for example, has put forth for
Speaker 4: the Sasquatch Well.
Speaker 3: I think one of the big takeaways for me is
Speaker 3: that it just goes to show that bipedalism is not
Speaker 3: a one size fits all. You know, there's evolution didn't
Speaker 3: select for one form of bipedalism, not even in upright
Speaker 3: apes or homin ins, let alone hominids or hominoids, et cetera,
Speaker 3: and that we're evolved, we're selected for very different things
Speaker 3: Australia pith scenes in US, and so yes, we're both bipedal,
Speaker 3: but not in the same way, even in the slightest
Speaker 3: when it comes down to the minutia of some of
Speaker 3: these things, that there's many different selection pressures at play here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it makes perfect sense, you know. And when
Speaker 4: you look at the anatomy of an animal, which is
Speaker 4: basically kind of all we have for Australio pitho scenes,
Speaker 4: we have the anatomy and we have some tools that
Speaker 4: were retrieved out of layers at a certain age, and
Speaker 4: therefore it could be guessed that Australia pithe scenes may
Speaker 4: have made these kinds of tools, which would be super
Speaker 4: interesting because Ostralla pithe scenes were basically, as far as
Speaker 4: we know, chimpanzees that walked up right, you know, And
Speaker 4: so if these things were making tools because they had
Speaker 4: free use of their upper limbs or arms. In other words,
Speaker 4: it's very very interesting what other animals currently alive today,
Speaker 4: like regular chimpanzees, might be capable of if they could
Speaker 4: free themselves up a little bit. But when you look
Speaker 4: at the anatomy, it tells you a lot about how
Speaker 4: an animal lived. Leela, Leela what's her last name, you know,
Speaker 4: the the ericson Project Leela Hodgschick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I
Speaker 4: was hanging out with her in Portland years and years
Speaker 4: and years ago. She was presenting a paper I guess
Speaker 4: as some conference that was in Towent and she called
Speaker 4: me and we went out and had lunch or dinner
Speaker 4: or something and hung out, very very informative, very very cool,
Speaker 4: and she said some snappy catch line that I don't remember,
Speaker 4: and I wish I did, but basically the gist of
Speaker 4: her snatchy cap line was, you know, if you look
Speaker 4: at an animal and you look how they're built, it'll
Speaker 4: tell you what they were doing. And we were specifically
Speaker 4: talking about how sasquatch is intermemberble indexes were larger or
Speaker 4: you know, the arms are longer than in the humans,
Speaker 4: you know, for example, and therefore it's reasonable to think
Speaker 4: that they may have been using their arms for locomotion
Speaker 4: to some to some degree at the time. And she says, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: well they say this, you know, anatomy reflects behavior or whatever.
Speaker 4: The catch line was, I don't remember what it was
Speaker 4: at the time. So we do that a lot with
Speaker 4: these fossil species, you know. And so now that they've
Speaker 4: used this three D modeling then simulation software, I guess
Speaker 4: it's no surprise at all that Oshalla patikas a forensis
Speaker 4: wasn't made for doing the same thing that humans were.
Speaker 3: Oh exactly. Yeah, But bipedalism is not a hallmark of
Speaker 3: humanity alone. And you know, these evolutionary adaptations are not
Speaker 3: just byproducts of epedalism. Like just walking upright doesn't give
Speaker 3: you a single outcome. It can result in many different outcomes.
Speaker 3: And this is a great example of one that's different
Speaker 3: from ours.
Speaker 2: Word.
Speaker 4: So when somebody says word to your mother, what word
Speaker 4: are they talking about?
Speaker 3: Hey, tell your mom, I said hi in a suggestive way.
Speaker 3: That's why. That's why it's a diss when people say
Speaker 3: word to your mother.
Speaker 4: Well, it's a disc it's not a good thing.
Speaker 2: It's a good thing, is it word to your mother? Yeah?
Speaker 3: We'll ask of Vanilla Ice.
Speaker 4: When is he going to be on as a guest.
Speaker 3: I don't know. He's probably not terribly busy.
Speaker 2: The whoa dude, Rob's got stuff going on.
Speaker 3: He might be a fan. If you're listening, Rob, send
Speaker 3: us an email.
Speaker 2: I love the ice it goes by Rob van Winkle.
Speaker 3: Now, he was also in the second teenage Mutant Ninja
Speaker 3: Turtle's live action movie, so he's got some familiarity with
Speaker 3: creature suits and anthropomorphic animals and so he's got a
Speaker 3: lot to say.
Speaker 2: Dude, the guy's a badass dancer. He could sing. He's
Speaker 2: a sick dirt bike rider.
Speaker 3: He is a sick bike rider. That is true.
Speaker 4: It becomes on. I hope that everything he says rhymes.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sure the word to your mother was around
Speaker 3: for a long time, but I don't think that made
Speaker 3: it to like rural North Georgia until Ice Ized Baby
Speaker 3: hit two.
Speaker 4: Thousand and five, the way after it was cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. You guys got it a little earlier in
Speaker 3: so Cow, but in North Georgia it took Ice Sized
Speaker 3: Baby before kids in North Georgia started saying it.
Speaker 2: Cable TV and then especially the Internet ruined like California
Speaker 2: being cool. Besides that, but I mean, like how like
Speaker 2: the wrestling country would be so far behind because like
Speaker 2: once like MTV hit, like styles would pop out like overnight,
Speaker 2: like cross country, you know.
Speaker 3: That's why. Maybe that's why we had a hard time
Speaker 3: believing that you invented wearing your pants low or hanging
Speaker 3: crevices because we assumed it was ubiquitous. But since you
Speaker 3: were an early adopter, you might really have invented it.
Speaker 2: Oh the pigeons tell yeah, dude, hanging crevices.
Speaker 3: And Hi Buddha, chest bump, belly bump.
Speaker 2: Yeah, got videographic evidence of that. Right after that was
Speaker 2: I think you can trace it to the Oakland A's.
Speaker 2: And then my brother was good friends with Mike Diegos.
Speaker 2: His brother, Chris Goegos, was on his team at UC
Speaker 2: Irvine baseball team, and those guys started doing the high
Speaker 2: Buddha and I'm thinking they got it from from the
Speaker 2: Bows and Buford.
Speaker 3: I think these top tier athletes were sitting around watching
Speaker 3: Kidty Loggins music videos and then decided to co opt
Speaker 3: one of the moves from the number one.
Speaker 2: Video of the country, number one video in the country.
Speaker 4: Four weeks pro playing with the boys, yep, and still
Speaker 4: a fan favored in all gay bars across the country.
Speaker 2: You're immortal in the At the Millennium in two thousand
Speaker 2: and they came out with a list of that the
Speaker 2: most remixed songs and gig gay bars, and we were
Speaker 2: at number two after its raining men, you've.
Speaker 4: Been to gay bars?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Remember I don't remember going through a gay bar with you. Yeah,
Speaker 5: with Renee on the road, I don't remember that. Oh
Speaker 5: me and I don't mean money and like I think
Speaker 5: grabs were there.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I don't remember going to a gay bar
Speaker 4: in the road.
Speaker 3: It does say even on Wikipedia. The song was a
Speaker 3: hit among gay nightclubs. Spin Magazine's interviewer Jonathan Cohen called
Speaker 3: it quote a sort of gay anthem. Yeah that Loggins
Speaker 3: performs the song for the video in the middle of
Speaker 3: a men versus women indoor volleyball game. The women won
Speaker 3: by fifteen to thirteen.
Speaker 2: I do. That's that's how I found out it was
Speaker 2: a big deal. I was with Renee and I think
Speaker 2: we were in North Carolina. I can't remember. We were
Speaker 2: at some gay bar and that song came on, and
Speaker 2: like halfway there, I was like, oh, I know this song.
Speaker 2: I'm on the video and the like it was like
Speaker 2: I was I couldn't buy a drink in that. Besides,
Speaker 2: you know, I probably couldn't anyways, because I was a
Speaker 2: handsome guy. But I was like a full celeb because
Speaker 2: I was the dude and I was one of the
Speaker 2: dudes and playing with the boys.
Speaker 3: If any of our listeners are are like adept at
Speaker 3: editing Wikipedia, will you please edit that entry to reflect
Speaker 3: that it also features James Bobofe of Finding Bigfoot and
Speaker 3: Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo. Because that's that's
Speaker 3: crucial info that needs to be on this Wikipedia entry.
Speaker 4: Oh that'd be fun. That'd be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: It's factually true, there's it should be in there. Well,
Speaker 3: I will put the link to the video in the
Speaker 3: show notes yet again because it is a classic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's fantastic.
Speaker 2: And I don't have a Wikipedia page to link to anyways.
Speaker 3: But that you could still put it in there. It
Speaker 3: can still at least be referenced.
Speaker 2: I thought you had a Oh okay, I thought you
Speaker 2: had to have like a page or.
Speaker 3: Something now because Finding Bigfoot has a wiki page, so
Speaker 3: it could just link to that James Bobo Fay of
Speaker 3: Finding Bigfoot and click it. You know, this is important information.
Speaker 3: You've been You've been ignored by history for far too long,
Speaker 3: and I'm not okay with it anymore.
Speaker 2: Someone's got to make me a Wikipedia page that has
Speaker 2: the have a just the footnote of Bigfoot and have
Speaker 2: it all be about playing with the boys.
Speaker 3: All the source material would just be of this podcast
Speaker 3: that would have all these wild plays about your life.
Speaker 3: And they'd be like, what are your sources? He'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: episode two twenty three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that. I think the world is sorely
Speaker 4: lacking a Bobo Fay Wikipedia page. I agree, Stay tuned
Speaker 4: for more Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo will
Speaker 4: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: How hard?
Speaker 2: Well, how do you get a page on it anything?
Speaker 2: I don't even know.
Speaker 4: I don't know. But the underneath where it tells me
Speaker 4: Matt doesn't exist on Wikipedias, his Finding Bigfoot, Bigfoot Field
Speaker 4: Research Organization founder and president, Matt Moneymaker, Bigfoot Enthusias and
Speaker 4: blah blah blah, James Fan Cliff, and then underneath it
Speaker 4: is Chris Moneymaker.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, poker.
Speaker 3: The Wikipedia says that your show is also starring besides
Speaker 3: you four, Paige Riley, Jane Namars, Naomi and Camille Breen
Speaker 3: are the other four stars of Finding Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: That's why he made the page.
Speaker 4: That's odd. There is a reference. There is a reference
Speaker 4: to Moneymaker on the Mountain Monsters Wikipedia page.
Speaker 2: Oh they got a wiki page. They do good for that,
Speaker 2: they deserve it.
Speaker 3: It's does say that James Bobo Fey was born and
Speaker 3: raised in Manhattan Beach, California. The tallest and burliest member
Speaker 3: of the team, he is the one most often used
Speaker 3: to stand in for Bigfoot and recreations. Fay is known
Speaker 3: for his gone squatch and hat. It does say he
Speaker 3: and Barrackman are close friends and search for Bigfoot together
Speaker 3: before the series started. It also mentions that you are
Speaker 3: on Conan and then in twenty fourteen, Boston Red Sox
Speaker 3: second basement Dustin Pedroia met you at Fenway Park before
Speaker 3: a game and gave you an autograph baseball bat with
Speaker 3: the Sasquatch logo on the bottom of it.
Speaker 2: That's cool, Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4: They say there's a feud between the Finding Bigfoot people
Speaker 4: in the Mountain Monsters on their page. It says here
Speaker 4: that on April fifth, twenty fifteen, Matt Moneymaker of Finding
Speaker 4: Bigfoot tweeted that Mountain Monsters was scripted and the Ames
Speaker 4: team were merely actors. Trapper John Tice responded to the tweet,
Speaker 4: denying that he was an actor and referring to Moneymaker's
Speaker 4: show as losing Bigfoot. The online feud continued with Finding
Speaker 4: Bigfoot cast member Cliff Barrett Cliff Barrickman chiming in that
Speaker 4: the show is fiction and that the official Finding Bigfoot
Speaker 4: Twitter account calling Mountain Monsters a fake hoax show in
Speaker 4: regards to the series. Oh and the Final Wait is
Speaker 4: fiction and the official Finding Bigfoot Twitter account calling Mountain
Speaker 4: Monsters a fake hoax show in regards to this series.
Speaker 4: April twenty seven routine.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought this up because I was going
Speaker 3: to save it from the members episode. But literally four
Speaker 3: hours ago, a member messaged me and said, Hey, I
Speaker 3: have this question. I don't know whether I should ask
Speaker 3: it on the show or not, but I read this
Speaker 3: Wikipedia page and it mentions that there's a feud with
Speaker 3: the Mountain Monster guys. Is there any truth to this
Speaker 3: story at all? And so I said, well, I'll ask him.
Speaker 3: Doubt that it's true, because they're all good friends, but
Speaker 3: i'll ask. So here you go bringing it.
Speaker 2: Up before before we met him at the conventions, like
Speaker 2: I would, because dude, I got so many to by
Speaker 2: Page would get flooded with you guys are stupid. You
Speaker 2: gotta get to the Mountain Monsters. They find them every time.
Speaker 4: We're stupid, right, like you.
Speaker 2: Well one of they be like you ignorant, fool, lily jackass.
Speaker 2: But I'd just be like, yeah, well there's this fake
Speaker 2: like those I do they weren't actors just because there's
Speaker 2: no way they were actors like Tuffleberry and I mean,
Speaker 2: those guys are just you could tell they weren't actors
Speaker 2: no way.
Speaker 4: You know, I thought they were actors. And then I
Speaker 4: did a gig with them. You know, the Pennsylvania is
Speaker 4: something bigfoot camp out that Eric Altman does every couple
Speaker 4: of years or something. And the Mountain Monster guys when
Speaker 4: the booth next to me, and that's when I like,
Speaker 4: I kind of met him and talked to him a
Speaker 4: little bit, and I realized, oh my god, they're not actors,
Speaker 4: which which like which is? It's soll perplexing to this
Speaker 4: day because you know, sheep squatch, come on, guys, sheep
Speaker 4: squatch but doesn't exist, right, Yeah, And there's a lot
Speaker 4: of things out there that are going after that are
Speaker 4: just like local, local sort of you know, this particular
Speaker 4: hollow calls that sasquatch this name, you know, and they
Speaker 4: treat them like an entirely different things. And I don't
Speaker 4: know what. I don't know. I don't know what to
Speaker 4: think about the show. I think that basically, you have
Speaker 4: a bunch of really really awesome ridiculous people, you know,
Speaker 4: like like you and I are, by the way, you know,
Speaker 4: we're awesome ridiculous people. Not not you, Matt, but Bobo
Speaker 4: and I mostly Bobo, honestly. And I think they turn
Speaker 4: it up to eleven. That's what I think they do.
Speaker 4: They're they're put in these situations and they turn it
Speaker 4: up to eleven and let them loose and then the
Speaker 4: editors go to work. Essentially, that's what I think Mountain
Speaker 4: Monsters is. I don't know though, but the bottom line
Speaker 4: is they are all, every single one of them, absolutely
Speaker 4: wonderful gems of human beings. They are the kindest, sweetest,
Speaker 4: most humble, most appreciative people. I think probably probably I've
Speaker 4: ever met in my life. And that one, that one
Speaker 4: gig out there were there at the booth next to me,
Speaker 4: and I didn't really know him yet when I saw
Speaker 4: him singing Happy Birthday. Every single person that came by
Speaker 4: that was appropriate to sing Happy Birthday too, and treating
Speaker 4: every you know, little boy or girl as a king
Speaker 4: or a queen and just going over the top. And
Speaker 4: I said, yeah, there, show is ridiculous, and I think
Speaker 4: they probably realized that too, And you know, our show
Speaker 4: is ridiculous in other ways too. But when I saw that,
Speaker 4: I said, you know what, no matter what their show is,
Speaker 4: it is fantastic. And I've never seen one, to be fair,
Speaker 4: I'd never seen one at that point. And after I
Speaker 4: met him and started hanging out with him, and Melissa
Speaker 4: met him at some job or whatever, you know, we
Speaker 4: went back home and we watched Mountain Monster episode and
Speaker 4: I just laughed and laughed and laughed. There's nothing wrong
Speaker 4: with whatever they're doing. There's nothing wrong with it. And
Speaker 4: of course Melissa's take on it was that, oh my god,
Speaker 4: they're so supportive of one another.
Speaker 2: What do you mean.
Speaker 4: It's like, look like somebody says something and everybody else
Speaker 4: goes hell yeah, hell yeah, I start shooting guns and
Speaker 4: going in the woods and like brilliant, enthused about it.
Speaker 4: They're just supportive, loving, kind people. And I can honestly
Speaker 4: say now that I know every single one of them.
Speaker 4: I didn't know Trapper. He passed away unfortunately before I
Speaker 4: had a chance to really get to know him. I
Speaker 4: know every single one of them. I mean, wild Bill
Speaker 4: called me a couple of days ago and left a message.
Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure what it says, but he left
Speaker 4: a message. And now that I know every single one
Speaker 4: of them, they are all fantastic and whatever this feud
Speaker 4: thing is, it's it's hogwash because I just couldn't love
Speaker 4: me some mountain monsters any more than I do.
Speaker 2: And we have clear there's some at least fifteen times
Speaker 2: in the show before.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, here, actually you know what, let's do this.
Speaker 4: I think I still have wild Bill's message.
Speaker 2: Call him.
Speaker 4: No, that wasn't gonna call him. I was just going
Speaker 4: to play it. Yeah, here you go, Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 4: Hold on, say Clint.
Speaker 6: Bar when this is William the United States Ring Corps.
Speaker 4: Who rah, brother?
Speaker 6: Hey, I don't think I live on the last get out?
Speaker 4: Not about right now.
Speaker 3: We got about probably.
Speaker 6: Well, we had about probably three plus slow melted down
Speaker 6: probably too, but it's steel, sub glue, brow and stuff.
Speaker 6: But ice to sew your brother, Hey, I just call
Speaker 6: and see it balls. Well, many ain't seen you, simple
Speaker 6: but uh Kentucky.
Speaker 4: So it's gonna give me shout. Bro'll see how you doing. Man?
Speaker 4: Who balls?
Speaker 6: Well, Man, I'll probably be seeing you sometime in the
Speaker 6: near future. Have a good go up on Cliff who
Speaker 6: balls will brother who Rah we.
Speaker 4: Who rah Indeed, Man, I love that guy. I just
Speaker 4: love all those guys so much. Oh, he's so amazing.
Speaker 4: All those guys. So this bit fighting bigfoot feud whatever,
Speaker 4: you know, whatever, man, do I think there are shows,
Speaker 4: actual real stuff going. No, I don't, but whatever, man,
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. These guys are gems of human beings,
Speaker 4: bringing entire new generations of young people into it. And
Speaker 4: you know, and what the funny part is the funny
Speaker 4: to me the most ridiculous or one of the most
Speaker 4: ridiculous things about this. Now that I know all those guys,
Speaker 4: every one of them, I think, except for Jeff, has
Speaker 4: seen a sasquatch. You know, Jeff's a great guy, love him.
Speaker 4: You know it had some of his moonshine. Actually one time,
Speaker 4: every one of them has seen a Well, now that
Speaker 4: I'm saying that, I'm not sure Buck has seen one,
Speaker 4: but I know he may have though, but I know
Speaker 4: he's found big footprints when he was out turkey hunting
Speaker 4: at one time. You know, we got to have Buck
Speaker 4: on the show, you know, he'd be a good guest
Speaker 4: for the show, I think too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said he'd come on any time, and it's
Speaker 4: got to give him a call, man, So yeah, keep
Speaker 4: poking me about that. I'll try to get Buck on here.
Speaker 4: But yeah, every one of those guys has scenes wild
Speaker 4: Bill has seen a sasquatch, you know. Huckleberry I think
Speaker 4: has seen him twice. So of course they're going to
Speaker 4: be on some bigfood show doing their thing, you know.
Speaker 4: And again they're just themselves, they're not actors. They just
Speaker 4: turn it up to eleven and let them lose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but their default setting is already like ten and
Speaker 3: a half.
Speaker 4: I know. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've reading the big Foot in Wikipedia, just Bigfoot,
Speaker 2: and there's finding big Foot stuff in there, but nothing
Speaker 2: about us personally. But then there's there are museums dedicated
Speaker 2: to big Foot and twenty nineteen big Foot reacharch or
Speaker 2: Clip Berrick, notable for his role in finding Bigfoot, open
Speaker 2: the North Berican big Foot Center and boring Oregon.
Speaker 4: No kidding, that's nice of them to put that in.
Speaker 2: Hey, Bill got me fired up. I'm all, like hearts
Speaker 2: popping harder and getting a little jittery.
Speaker 4: Well you should. I don't know if Bill, I mean,
Speaker 4: does Bill have a computer?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think he does.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he might be a fun guess. I mean it
Speaker 4: might be hard to follow sometimes because you know, his
Speaker 4: accent and his enthusiasm kind of mask what he says sometimes.
Speaker 3: Oh, when I was at the twenty twenty one Smoky
Speaker 3: Mountain big Foot conference, which you guys have both been to,
Speaker 3: Like it's at a massive convention center in Gallinburg, like
Speaker 3: a huge room that probably holds like twenty five hundred
Speaker 3: and three thousand people. Bill refused to use a microphone
Speaker 3: and people were like a gas. I mean, he started
Speaker 3: talking and like everyone could hear him all the way
Speaker 3: in the back, and people wereized, like, oh, he doesn't
Speaker 3: need a microphone. People could hear him outside probably, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he does need a microphone nor a spotlight.
Speaker 3: They could hear him clearing pigeon forge.
Speaker 4: We're coming up to the end of our time here.
Speaker 4: You know, we still have a members episode to record.
Speaker 4: Why don't we head over there? And not much of
Speaker 4: a topical episode. I got to say, we only covered
Speaker 4: one and we just kind of shot, you know, shot
Speaker 4: the poop. I guess, you know, for the rest of
Speaker 4: the time. But I had a good time talking, which
Speaker 4: is good, man, because I had a kind of a
Speaker 4: lousy day, So this is great And for me at least,
Speaker 4: I can't speak for YouTube characters, but for me at least,
Speaker 4: that's probably my favorite thing about the podcast. I love
Speaker 4: hanging out and talking to my best friends, so just
Speaker 4: that we can just set aside a little bit of
Speaker 4: time and catch up and stuff. When I get lost
Speaker 4: in the conversation and just have a good time, those
Speaker 4: are my favorite podcasts. When I don't have to be
Speaker 4: an expert on something and I don't have to know
Speaker 4: all the answers and all that stuff. I do appreciate that.
Speaker 4: So thank you both very much, Matt and Bobo for
Speaker 4: pulling me out of a pretty mediocre mood. Man. I
Speaker 4: had a crappy day down doing construction stuff in the
Speaker 4: outbuilding because I've been talking about a lot. I'm building
Speaker 4: this room for my casts. The footprint casts have outgrown
Speaker 4: my garage, so I'm building a twenty by thirty five
Speaker 4: foot room in my outbuilding. So I can house them.
Speaker 4: And today we're putting joists up and building this room,
Speaker 4: and I screwed up well over half of them, so
Speaker 4: I had to go redo them all. And of course
Speaker 4: i'm you know, my Gary, my fabulous neighbor is helping
Speaker 4: me out, and I feel like, I don't know, just
Speaker 4: so disappointed in myself in so many ways. So it's
Speaker 4: so nice to catch up with you guys and just
Speaker 4: kind of lose my grumpy mood for minute and in
Speaker 4: talk talk squatch with you. So I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: You know, as I said, I forgot too. We're talking
Speaker 2: about Fireball over there. My greatest joy in squatching was
Speaker 2: I had two definite or three or four actually definite
Speaker 2: encounters with Fireball. He got to smell them and hear them.
Speaker 2: We went on a trip in New Mexico to the
Speaker 2: Hickory of Patri Reservation in two thousand and four, had
Speaker 2: the best sighting.
Speaker 4: What did you say?
Speaker 2: They smelled like we were in pursuit of some squatches,
Speaker 2: some a couple of squatches that we were that we
Speaker 2: were encountering. That the the ones that yelled hey, the
Speaker 2: one that yelled hey when they were trying to corrala
Speaker 2: cow elk and the box canyons. And when they took
Speaker 2: off out the back, we drove around, were hauling, asked
Speaker 2: from fireballs, chuck. We went flying down this back road
Speaker 2: to go intercept what they'd had to cross. You could
Speaker 2: see in the grass that they had run through dry
Speaker 2: grass and it's dunk. That same smell I smelled the
Speaker 2: time at Bluff Creek that just you know, futred, you
Speaker 2: know out housey smell with vinegar kind of mixed in.
Speaker 2: Smelled like a you know, smell a dead year. It's
Speaker 2: been a dunst one hundred degree heat for a week
Speaker 2: behind Taco Bell and the dumpster.
Speaker 4: Not a lot of deer in the Taco Bell dumpster
Speaker 4: around here.
Speaker 2: Man. That was just a great description. I heard that
Speaker 2: was going the next but yeah, so yeah, you heard
Speaker 2: the ones in the barn with it. When he was
Speaker 2: putting the changes underwear and his foot got caught in
Speaker 2: his underwear and he fell and he heard this laughing
Speaker 2: like he heated into the big ladder. One goes like
Speaker 2: shished him shit. They all went dead quietly. He who
Speaker 2: is that? He sends the bitches and then they ran
Speaker 2: out and jumped. They ran to the dead pace, just
Speaker 2: running out the back. I heard that part. They went
Speaker 2: running through the payloft and never even brooke stride just
Speaker 2: hit the ground, running like out of the second floor
Speaker 2: of the barn, just hit the ground, took off. Then
Speaker 2: he also heard him on our way there. We stopped
Speaker 2: it where my buddy had a bunch of squash action
Speaker 2: happ when he was soon while spotted al surveys in Arizona,
Speaker 2: like up like ten thousand foot elevation, ten thousand feet
Speaker 2: so on his peak. And we went up there before
Speaker 2: dry lightning storm hit and we had him around us
Speaker 2: that night and he heard the knocks and the whistles
Speaker 2: and he was tripping. And then a few nights later
Speaker 2: he heard that. Then he heard the scream. He got
Speaker 2: that crazy scream that everyone that was at that two
Speaker 2: thousand and four bf Our exhibition in New Mexico, the
Speaker 2: Hickorya all heard it. Hoyts Ranch heard that. And then
Speaker 2: we hear him talk about it, kind of get any
Speaker 2: words out. He heard that whole thing, So that that
Speaker 2: kind of you know, kind of took me out of
Speaker 2: the crazy house. And like he wouldn't say that, he
Speaker 2: for sure had an encounter because he was just like
Speaker 2: to like guyed his reputation too much like that. But
Speaker 2: he didn't think I was so netty. After that, he
Speaker 2: was like, there's something there, there's something there.
Speaker 4: It was neat that your dad had a chance to
Speaker 4: experience that. And I would say about your dad, your
Speaker 4: dad is one of the people. And there's a handful
Speaker 4: of them in everybody's life, I think, but your dad
Speaker 4: is sincerely to me at least, one of the people
Speaker 4: that made my life better for knowing him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyone that bad him and new them, I just
Speaker 2: feelbout with the feel that, like what I feel abad
Speaker 2: about him being not here anymore. The worst thing I
Speaker 2: feel about, besides my mom, is all the people that
Speaker 2: didn't get to meet him. You better live a good life.
Speaker 2: If you want to meetings, ago, go to have them
Speaker 2: to see him from now on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. There you go. If there is
Speaker 4: an afterlife, which I assume there is, or because I
Speaker 4: don't think life ends necessarily, I'm looking forward to high
Speaker 4: fives with Fireball and some belly bumps. Belly bumps in
Speaker 4: honor of his son.
Speaker 2: All right, if you beat me there, yeah, give him
Speaker 2: a give him a high Buddha for me too, all right,
Speaker 2: I guess that's it, folks. Thanks for joining us on
Speaker 2: this fact filled Bigfoot episode. Thanks for joining us on
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Speaker 2: keep it squatchy.
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