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<v Speaker 1>The views expressed in the following program are those of

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<v Speaker 1>Saga nine sixty AM or its management.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Wednesday afternoon and you know what that means. A

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<v Speaker 2>Ringside Heat is on the Era of news Talk Saga

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<v Speaker 2>nine sixty AM. Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Lextan,

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<v Speaker 2>hosted producer of the show, and you can follow me

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<v Speaker 2>at Lextan Media. You can follow the show at Ringside

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<v Speaker 2>Underscore Heat. It is a solo episode here today. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna meet me flapping my gums, as Stone Colt

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Austin would say it for the next forty five

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty minutes on the air here on Sago nine

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<v Speaker 2>sixty AM. So oh for gonna be a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>fun for me. I'm hoping it's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of fun for you, because hey, you know what does that?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they tell us in radio school. If it's

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<v Speaker 2>fun for me, hopefully someone will find it fun as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can also follow us on social media at

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<v Speaker 2>Ringside Underscore Heat, on Instagram, x, Facebook, TikTok, threads, and

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube. If I do start putting these episodes up

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube as well. Maybe one day, maybe this one

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<v Speaker 2>I'll start or I'll start doing it. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>also something that would be happening for YouTube as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually thinking about going live on stream on the

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<v Speaker 2>live stream on for Saturday Night's main event, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>coming up this coming Saturday, July the eighteenth, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be here in Canada. It's gonna be broadcast live

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<v Speaker 2>on YouTube. So we get to watch that along together,

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<v Speaker 2>at least hopefully we get to watch it along together.

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<v Speaker 2>And and I want to. I want to do that because,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I find some pretty cool connections and some

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<v Speaker 2>pretty cool callbacks to twenty ninth when the Toronto Raptors

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<v Speaker 2>won the NBA Championship and the first big WWE event

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<v Speaker 2>since the NBA Championship of the Toronto Raptors in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen was SummerSlam, and well the SummerSlam weekend, you had NXT,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of the superstars from NXT and from the

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<v Speaker 2>brand and from both brands UH in WWE coming out

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<v Speaker 2>to the ring in Raptors themed merch they've made. They

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<v Speaker 2>they created a lot of good will for UH within

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<v Speaker 2>Toronto and Toronto's a wrestling town. Let's not let's let's not,

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<v Speaker 2>let's not mince words over here. Toronto is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best wrestling towns in the world. And and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I would say the only other places I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to go and watch wrestling outside of Toronto

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<v Speaker 2>would probably be New York City. It could be Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>It could even be in France, because my goodness, gracious,

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<v Speaker 2>France is amazing. Puerto Rico, I would love to go

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<v Speaker 2>and watch wrestling in Puerto Rico. And if there's anything

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<v Speaker 2>as well too that shows that you know, wrestling and

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<v Speaker 2>ww wrestling and well tripla A really is just just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a great environmental watch wrestling. It's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be Mexico City, because that El Grande Americano match, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still not over it yet. I'm still not over all

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<v Speaker 2>Grande Americano and uh an og of Grande Americano and

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<v Speaker 2>the lead up the match and everything. We'll talk a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about that, the aftermath of that and later

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<v Speaker 2>on in the show. But I want to do this

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<v Speaker 2>episode over here, and I'm gonna start this episode with

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<v Speaker 2>the lead up to Summer Slam and also a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a lead up to Saturday Night's main event.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're gonna start off by naming the episode here today.

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<v Speaker 2>It's contracts, characters and chaos. That's exactly what we are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be talking about here today. And we're gonna start

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<v Speaker 2>it off here with one of the rate, sacredly stupid

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<v Speaker 2>traditions in professional wrestling, the championship match contract signing. So

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<v Speaker 2>championship contract signings are supposed to be simple to your competitors,

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<v Speaker 2>sit down, the authority figure stands nearby, pretending this will

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<v Speaker 2>remain civilized. And sometimes it is the general manager of

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<v Speaker 2>the brand that you are representing, or it's the actual

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<v Speaker 2>promoter of the company. I mean, hey, I think Vince McMahon,

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<v Speaker 2>if my memory serves me correctly, Vice McMahon was the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that looked over the contract signing for the CMPUNK

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<v Speaker 2>John Cena Money in the Bay Championship match from twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eleven July twenty eleven, and I just can't believe that

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<v Speaker 2>was what sixteen years ago. How in the world was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest matches that Money in the Bank

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<v Speaker 2>ever created? Then the pipe bomb, for that matter, the

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<v Speaker 2>pipe bomb was sixteen years ago. The pipe bomb can

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<v Speaker 2>officially apply for a g one driver's license, goodness, gracious,

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<v Speaker 2>anyway to competitors sit down. The authority figure stands stands nearby,

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<v Speaker 2>pretending this will remain civilized. Both wrestlers signed the document.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody goes home peacefully, except that never happens, especially everybody

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<v Speaker 2>going home peacefully. It never happens that way, because in wrestling,

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<v Speaker 2>a contract signing is not illegal proceeding. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>controlled explosion with furniture. So let's talk about some of

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<v Speaker 2>the tropes that we've seen over the years with WWE,

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<v Speaker 2>with aw with TNA, wrestling with wherever wrestling company that

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<v Speaker 2>ever employs the trope of the championship match contract signing.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, someone may flip a table. Number two, someone

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<v Speaker 2>refuses to sign it at first, and then number three

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<v Speaker 2>someone signs dramatically and then attacks the other. Number four,

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<v Speaker 2>the champion raises the title. Number five the champion the

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<v Speaker 2>challenger rather points at title like it owes them money.

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<v Speaker 2>Number six. I think we're at number six. Yeah, six,

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<v Speaker 2>security is present, but somehow useless. The authority figure says

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<v Speaker 2>no physicality, which obviously guarantees physicality. Number seven, eight one, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're at eight right now. Somebody gets put

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<v Speaker 2>through something. Hey, as Chico would probably smack me down

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<v Speaker 2>for I never was really really good at math, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know that goes against all the stereotypes of Asian

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<v Speaker 2>dudes being good at math. I am not one of

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<v Speaker 2>those stereotypes anyway. The segment ends with one wrestler standing tall,

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<v Speaker 2>usually while commentary screams that we are out of time,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for tuning in, and we'll see you at

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<v Speaker 2>the next show. And wrestling, the contract signing is basically

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<v Speaker 2>Chekhov's table. If there's a table of the ring and

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<v Speaker 2>act one, somebody is going through it by Act three usually,

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<v Speaker 2>but even with all the cliches, the contract signings still

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<v Speaker 2>were when the history is real because paper is not

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<v Speaker 2>the point. The signature is not the point. The point

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<v Speaker 2>is the wound. The contract just gives the wound a date,

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<v Speaker 2>a location, and a pay per view logo or pl logo.

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<v Speaker 2>In WWE, SummerSlam has two championship matches that have been

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<v Speaker 2>building for years, and that is what makes this year

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<v Speaker 2>SummerSlam build so interesting. We're not just watching two tunnel

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<v Speaker 2>matches get announced. We're watching two long delayed confrontations finally arrived.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's start off with SmackDown. What we saw smack

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<v Speaker 2>down was Friday the WWE Undisputed Championship between Cody Rhads

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<v Speaker 2>and Cmpunk. And of course there's also which we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>into a little bit later when we tackle when we

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<v Speaker 2>tackle Saturday Nights of an event, the complications of Gunter

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<v Speaker 2>wanting Nick Alldas to make the correction and for Sammy's

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<v Speaker 2>ain who who apparently has been looked over for his

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<v Speaker 2>legal his I guess you could say his legally ensured

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<v Speaker 2>rematch for the w W into speed A Championship.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've also got seth Rollins versus Roman reigns to

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<v Speaker 2>the two original Shield members still in WWE, because John

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<v Speaker 2>Moxley Slash said, I can't even remember his I can't

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<v Speaker 2>even remember his name in WWE because he's John Moxley Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 2>John Moxley is in ae W and has been one

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<v Speaker 2>of the great champions of that company and has really

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<v Speaker 2>been one of those mainstays of the company. So all

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<v Speaker 2>three Shield members, great careers for all of them, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>to because thanks to WWE giving them that Shield gimmick

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<v Speaker 2>and that Shield persona and look at them now anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>both matches feel like stories ww could have told before,

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to tell before, or circled around for years. But

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<v Speaker 2>now they're happening with more age, with more scars, and

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<v Speaker 2>more mythology attached. These are not fresh fruits feuds. Rather,

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<v Speaker 2>in the shallow sense, these are delayed collisions. They feel

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<v Speaker 2>like matches that have been sitting somewhere in the back

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<v Speaker 2>of wrestling's mind waiting for the right version of each

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<v Speaker 2>man to finally show up. So let's start with Cody

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<v Speaker 2>Roads and see them Punk first. The promo was good.

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<v Speaker 2>Not gonna take away anything from the promo. Promos good.

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<v Speaker 2>You have Cody Roads, you have CM Punk, two great

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<v Speaker 2>men on the microphone and tut men who know how

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<v Speaker 2>to improvise all the spot. And that's something that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that you know is something that's great about the generation

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<v Speaker 2>of wrestlers that have come from the Attitude era all

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<v Speaker 2>the way to this present day. They have their bullet points,

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<v Speaker 2>they have their motivations, they have their character. All they

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<v Speaker 2>need to do just get out there, turn their volume

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<v Speaker 2>up to eleven, as the Rock would say, and just go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all they need to do. And so Cody Rhodes

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<v Speaker 2>and c M Punk. Great promo, good promo, both men

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<v Speaker 2>were sharp. Both men understood their assignments. The most interesting

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<v Speaker 2>part was not what they said, it was what their

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<v Speaker 2>words suggested. And you know, one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>was said that they've been putting it off for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time in WWE. This is the first major, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a major, first time championship collision between to the

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<v Speaker 2>company's most important modern names. Even at the tail end,

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<v Speaker 2>even in the twilight of Cmpunk's career, he's nearly fifty

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<v Speaker 2>years old, if he hasn't reached fifty already, but he

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<v Speaker 2>is still one of the top performers, not just in sales,

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<v Speaker 2>but also in the ring and also on the microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we've also got Cody Rhodes. He's basically he's

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<v Speaker 2>basically this generation's crossover star that John Cena was for

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<v Speaker 2>the previous generation and for I guess for those of

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<v Speaker 2>a certain vintage. It's weird to say that right now

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<v Speaker 2>because John Cena has always in the guy for the kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and he still is, but of a certain vintage. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the thing is kids still love him. It's great, it's great,

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<v Speaker 2>good job ww I mean, there is wisdom. There is

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<v Speaker 2>a wisdom for having your Hulk Hogan and you see

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<v Speaker 2>that with John Cena, and you see that with Cody Rhodes.

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<v Speaker 2>But for deeper wrestling fans, this can match up also

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<v Speaker 2>echoes a match that never happened in AEW, and I

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<v Speaker 2>would argue that I think that others like me would

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<v Speaker 2>have liked to see that in AW had the timelines meshed.

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<v Speaker 2>Cody and Punk's AW timelines did not really overlap in

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<v Speaker 2>the ring the way the fans would have needed for

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<v Speaker 2>a proper rivalry, but the idea is fascinating. Cody Rhodes

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<v Speaker 2>the EVP, the builder, the company man, the polished legacy figure,

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<v Speaker 2>CM Punk, the returning rebel, the disruptor, the man whose

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<v Speaker 2>very presence alters the gravity of the locker room, not

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<v Speaker 2>just not just not just in front of the camera

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<v Speaker 2>in k fabe. But boy, we see how he also

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<v Speaker 2>altered the gravity of the locker room in AEW as

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<v Speaker 2>well too. Shoot Wise shoot and that's more of an

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<v Speaker 2>explortive shoot rather than the wrestling term. But Cody and

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<v Speaker 2>Punk and AW would have been fascinating because it would

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<v Speaker 2>not just have been in wrestler versus wrestler. It would

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<v Speaker 2>have been philosophy versus philosophy, the builder versus the bomb thrower,

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<v Speaker 2>the prince of the revolution versus the man who walked

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<v Speaker 2>in and made the revolution nervous. Now, let's compare that

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<v Speaker 2>to the Bloodline that was happening at the same time

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<v Speaker 2>that they were, you know, in and out of the

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<v Speaker 2>company ish by twenty twenty two. But the Bloodline story

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<v Speaker 2>is firing on all cylinders in WWE. Cody and Punk. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>had they had they crossed rather paths properly in AW

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<v Speaker 2>could have given a story a real uh. They could

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<v Speaker 2>have given the Bloodline story rather a real run in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of intrigue, star power, and fan discourse. It may

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<v Speaker 2>Personally speaking, I would say that those two could have

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<v Speaker 2>it arrivaled it. But my main point over here Cmpunk

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<v Speaker 2>in their heads for years at least me at least

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<v Speaker 2>me as a wrestling fan. And this is the match

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<v Speaker 2>that feels like it was less like it was booked

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<v Speaker 2>and more like it escaped from a wrestling forum that

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<v Speaker 2>finally learned how to manifest itself. Ring said he had

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<v Speaker 2>a news stalk song nine sixty am. This is episode

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<v Speaker 2>two twenty two, Contracts, characters and chaos and what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>would say that Roman Reigns and seth Rawlins just hit

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<v Speaker 2>differently because as much as Cody Rhodes and Seampunk gave

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<v Speaker 2>us a strong promo, the segment that stayed with me,

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<v Speaker 2>the one that had teeth, blood, memory, and a chair

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<v Speaker 2>shot echoing through history, was Roman Reigns, acknowledge Him and

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<v Speaker 2>seth Rawlins. Michael Cole had a line, he said something,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was right. It really does hit different. When

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<v Speaker 2>Roman Reigns holds the gold, Roman with a championship does

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<v Speaker 2>boss again. Maybe you could actually say that he's the

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<v Speaker 2>real final boss. Sorry, Rock, I love your Rock, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still not over. I'm still not over you ducking

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<v Speaker 2>the Heel turn even bigger than it could have been.

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<v Speaker 2>But and you know, we all have already discussed how

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<v Speaker 2>the storylines and everything have all just gotten screwed up

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<v Speaker 2>there because now because Rock was heal and then all

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<v Speaker 2>We've said this many many times, and I'm sure you

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<v Speaker 2>have the same grapes as well too with the Rock

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<v Speaker 2>if you're thinking about good storytelling, like the Bloodline storytelling.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, as they said, Roman with a championship does

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<v Speaker 2>not feel like it does not just feel like a champion.

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<v Speaker 2>He feels like a boss and maybe the real final boss.

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<v Speaker 2>He feels like gravity has changed when he's there. He

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<v Speaker 2>they deserve to breathe the same air as your tribal chief.

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<v Speaker 2>You're otc your original tribal chief. Roman reigns holding the

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<v Speaker 2>gold is not just presentation, It is atmosphere. The entire

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<v Speaker 2>show starts orbiting him. And as I said before, as

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<v Speaker 2>we've all complained about as many many have complained about,

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<v Speaker 2>Death Rebel not the greatest WWE theme music writers, but

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<v Speaker 2>when they hit something, it really hits. And Roman Reins'

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<v Speaker 2>original Bloodline theme written by death rebel by death, not

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<v Speaker 2>death rebel death, rebel that hits differently, that hits, or

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<v Speaker 2>that that just hit that hits differently as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is a match Roman versus Rolins put off since

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<v Speaker 2>the Bloodline rules war now the match can be traced

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<v Speaker 2>all the way back obviously to the Shield days when

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<v Speaker 2>when Seth Rawlins broke up basically broke the Shield up

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<v Speaker 2>by or kicking or kicking Roman reigns out of the

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<v Speaker 2>Shield with that chair shot, but it also can be

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<v Speaker 2>traced back to Cody Rose versus Roman Reigns under the

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<v Speaker 2>Bloodline rules for the undisputed WWE World Heavyweight Championship at

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<v Speaker 2>WrestleMania forty, which I was so blessed and I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>not over it. I'm still not over it. I was

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<v Speaker 2>so blessed to attend, and I love Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I love WrestleMania. Who anyway, Seth Rowlins stood with Cody

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<v Speaker 2>suck Rawlins entered Roman's battlefield wearing the memory of the

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<v Speaker 2>Shield like a weapon, and Roman responded with a chair

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<v Speaker 2>shot that mirrored the original betrayal the night that Seth

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<v Speaker 2>Rowlins destroyed the Shield. Roman did just not hit Seth

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<v Speaker 2>Roman hit the ghost of twenty fourteen. He hit the betrayal.

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<v Speaker 2>He hit the wound that made Roman Reigns what he became.

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<v Speaker 2>When Roman put that chair into sets back, he was

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<v Speaker 2>not just helping himself against Cody Rhodes. He was answering

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<v Speaker 2>a question ten years old. He was saying, I remember,

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<v Speaker 2>and that I remember is the reason why Cody Rhoades

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<v Speaker 2>got the upper hand on the tribal chief. Now, the

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<v Speaker 2>promo it self, nobody, absolutely nobody pulled punches here. Seth

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<v Speaker 2>shot at Roman. I'll see you next time you decide

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<v Speaker 2>to show up for work. He goes, and it's too easy.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes down, head on his shoulders, head up high.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too easy. It's the classic criticism of modern Roman Reigns,

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<v Speaker 2>the part time schedule, special attraction status champion as final boss,

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<v Speaker 2>not the weekly workhorse. It's the same trope that's worked.

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<v Speaker 2>It worked with John Cena, it worked with the Rock,

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<v Speaker 2>it worked with Hulk Cogen. I guess hal Cogan, or

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<v Speaker 2>it worked with brock Lessner. Sorry I'm conflating brock Lesson

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<v Speaker 2>and hault Cogan over here, but brock Lesner in the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty tens again, all of those things. Rollins attacked the

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<v Speaker 2>gap between Romans aura and Roman's availability, but Roman fires

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<v Speaker 2>back by Colin by Colin, Seth freaking Rowlands injury prone.

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<v Speaker 2>If you beat me, are you gonna hold it for

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months and get injured again? That's what

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<v Speaker 2>happens every single time, quoting Roman reigns. Then Roman sharpens

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<v Speaker 2>the blade. Some people just can't handle the burden of

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<v Speaker 2>being the top guy around here. And of course the crowd, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that line is cruel. It attacks Seth's identity. Seth has

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<v Speaker 2>always wanted to be seen as the guy, not just

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<v Speaker 2>a guy, not just the workhorse, not just the great

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<v Speaker 2>match machine. The guy. Roman is saying, you cannot carry

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<v Speaker 2>what I carried. And as I mentioned earlier, John Cena, Roman,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been ten years and I can't believe it's been

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<v Speaker 2>ten years since Roman got humiliated live on TV by

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<v Speaker 2>John Cena and eventually became dangerous. John Cena undressed, Roman

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<v Speaker 2>reigns on the microphone in front of the entire world.

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<v Speaker 2>Sena calls him out forgetting his lines. He told Roman

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<v Speaker 2>that he was he was not the guy, just a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't seen it delivered the dagger I could do

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<v Speaker 2>this part time better than you could ever do this

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<v Speaker 2>full time. That was one of the best things that

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<v Speaker 2>ever happened to Roman. Reigns not immediately. Roman did not

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly just become the tribal chief overnight. It took years.

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<v Speaker 2>It took failure, it took rejection, It took the audience

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<v Speaker 2>refusing the version of Roman that they were being handed.

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<v Speaker 2>But eventually Roman found the bloodline story, and once he

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<v Speaker 2>found that, he stopped trying to be the guy that

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<v Speaker 2>WWE told us he was. He became the guy we

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<v Speaker 2>feared he may be. Sena embarrassed Roman on the world stage,

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<v Speaker 2>and in hindsight, that embarrassment became fertilizer. It took three years,

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<v Speaker 2>but something dangerous grew from it. Ringsideed a new Stok

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<v Speaker 2>Saga nine sixty AM, Episode two twenty two, Contracts, Characters

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<v Speaker 2>and Chaos. This is Lex Tan and we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a short break here on the radio. When

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, I'm going to talk about a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more about Roman raids of Seth Browns, why all

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<v Speaker 2>of this connects to Seth, and why this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most scathing promos that Roman has ever ever

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<v Speaker 2>cut on WWETV. Back after these promotional considerations. Wait, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the riddle and you're listening to Springside.

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<v Speaker 1>He pastream Us Live at Saga nine sixty am.

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<v Speaker 2>Dot Ca Yo Bro.

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<v Speaker 4>It is Vince Russo Man and you are listening to

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<v Speaker 4>Ringside Heat bro A News Talk Saga nine sixty am.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome back to Ringside heat A News Talk Saga

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<v Speaker 2>nine sixty am. Lextand at Lextan Media, Ringside Heat at

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<v Speaker 2>Ringside Underscore He Episode two twenty two, Contracts, Characters and Chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a solo episode. It's just me. As I

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<v Speaker 2>said earlier, Flapama gums a stone cold. Steve Austin would

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<v Speaker 2>say about this week the things that spoke to me

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<v Speaker 2>this week in professional wrestling, and let's go back into

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<v Speaker 2>Seth Rawlins Seth Freaking Rawlins versus Roman Reigns. As I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned sena embarrassed Roman on the world stage and in hindsight,

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<v Speaker 2>that embarrassment became the fertilizer that took three years to germinate,

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<v Speaker 2>but something dangerous grew from it. The Blood Lives story,

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<v Speaker 2>the OTC, the tribal chief Roman reigns and why this

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<v Speaker 2>connects to Seth. Roman is now doing to Seth what

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<v Speaker 2>Sina wants done to him. He's questioning whether Seth can

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<v Speaker 2>truly be the top guy. Now, Seth didn't forget his

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<v Speaker 2>lines or anything like that like Roman did, Oh boy,

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<v Speaker 2>oh boy, when Kurt if you remember Kurt Angle's face

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<v Speaker 2>when Roman did that to him, or when Roman just

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<v Speaker 2>got cooked by John Cena who Anyway, Roman is questioning,

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<v Speaker 2>just like Johnsena questioned him, whether Seth can truly be

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<v Speaker 2>the top guy. He is forcing Seth rawmins to answer

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<v Speaker 2>the question Roman once had to answer, are you really him?

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<v Speaker 2>And so this leads into roman scathing promo. Roman calls

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<v Speaker 2>Seth number two. It's not just and no one I heard.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to hear number two. Hey, everybody, I'm number one.

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<v Speaker 2>That was doctor Evil. And there comes number two from

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<v Speaker 2>the Austin Powers franchise. Hello, I'm number two. Pleased to

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<v Speaker 2>meet you number two. Anyway, Roman tells Rowlinds that he

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<v Speaker 2>is the number two. Why because Seth needed money in

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<v Speaker 2>the bank, because Seth faked an injury to cash in

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<v Speaker 2>money in the bank, because Seth has triple h his

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<v Speaker 2>work daddy running the show. Because according to Roman, wwe

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<v Speaker 2>gave set all of Roman stuff and Seth still couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>live up to Roman. Hell Triple H even gave him

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<v Speaker 2>the pedigree. We saw Seth Rawlins give Roman Reigns the

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<v Speaker 2>pedigree at the end of the segment. Unfortunately the table

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<v Speaker 2>didn't break, but noell, I mean the table wasn't used. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>but either way Roman gave Wwe gave set all of

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<v Speaker 2>Roman stuff. It's set according to Roman, still couldn't live

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<v Speaker 2>up to Roman. It's brutal because Roman is not just

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<v Speaker 2>mocking Seth's career, He's be framing it as imitation. He's saying,

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<v Speaker 2>you have the machine, you got the opportunities, you have

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<v Speaker 2>the presentation, you have the support woo, you have the title,

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<v Speaker 2>and you were still not me. This was not Roman

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<v Speaker 2>throwing shade. This was Roman Reigns pulling the curtain down

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<v Speaker 2>and saying, look at the architecture. This whole house was

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<v Speaker 2>built to make you look like me, and you still

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<v Speaker 2>came up short. Now for Seth Rowlins response, I was

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<v Speaker 2>very very surprised. It was surprisingly babyface. It was surprisingly

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<v Speaker 2>strong too. Rowlins comes back into the ring after nearly

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<v Speaker 2>after exiting, nearly exiting the arena via the ramp. He

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<v Speaker 2>dares Roman to say what he needs to say. Roman

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<v Speaker 2>says it. Seth does not crumble. Seth's babyface turned in

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<v Speaker 2>the promo. Seth responds, not that by trying to out

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<v Speaker 2>evil Roman by by planting his feet. He's proud of

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<v Speaker 2>who he is. He's proud of what he fights for.

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<v Speaker 2>He is a visionary, he is a revolutionary, and he

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<v Speaker 2>is glad that he is not Roman. And that surprised

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<v Speaker 2>me because Rolins could have gone snake for snake with Roman.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no question about that. We know that he can.

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<v Speaker 2>He went human this time, and that seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>Roman did win that promo. In my mind, going a

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<v Speaker 2>human Rollin's going a human may be a better choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Roman's greatest weapon is superiority, because you know, he asks

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<v Speaker 2>us to acknowledge him or not he asks us he

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<v Speaker 2>demands that we acknowledge him. But hey, he demands, but

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<v Speaker 2>we freely choose to acknowledge him. Ha. Anyway, Seth's counter

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<v Speaker 2>is not to pretend that he's above Roman. It's to

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<v Speaker 2>say I know who I am, I know what I carry,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would rather be mean than become you. This

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<v Speaker 2>Roman's game. He sounded like a man refusing to worship

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<v Speaker 2>Roman's altar. And of course, the mandatory contract signing violence

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<v Speaker 2>as usual. The contract signing eventually became physical back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth tension boils over Rowins gets the upper hand. It

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<v Speaker 2>did not feel like violence for the sake of checking

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<v Speaker 2>a trope box. It felt earned because the words had

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<v Speaker 2>already been punches, and by the time they came to blows,

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<v Speaker 2>the fight had already started. The physical altercation was almost secondary,

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<v Speaker 2>but Roman and Seth had already hit each other in

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<v Speaker 2>the soul. The fists were just punctuation. So SummerSlam has

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<v Speaker 2>two big stories. The Shield, however, started with fire. So far,

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<v Speaker 2>summerslams has two compelling championship stories, Cody versus c and Punk.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like a long delay dream match with ghosts

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<v Speaker 2>of a EWWWE and modern wrestling discourse behind it. Roman

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<v Speaker 2>versus Seth Rawlins feels like a blood feud disguised as

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<v Speaker 2>a title match. But in my mind, the Shield story

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<v Speaker 2>hit harder. This week. Cody and Punk gave us intrigue.

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<v Speaker 2>Roman and Seth gave us history with a knife in

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<v Speaker 2>its hand. And if this was just the beginning, then

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<v Speaker 2>SummerSlam is not being built gently if it is being

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<v Speaker 2>signed in ink, sealed in violence, and haunted by the

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<v Speaker 2>sound of a steel chair from ten years ago. Two

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<v Speaker 2>championship matches, four world class performers, and possibly more years

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<v Speaker 2>of history. But this week I say the Shield Boys

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<v Speaker 2>lit the match for Summer Slam. We'll be back after

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<v Speaker 2>these promotional considerations. But when we return, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about character development in wrestling, and we can see

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<v Speaker 2>that with y Alfa Academy as well as teeing up

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday Night's main event this coming Saturday, July the eighteenth.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Ringside Heat again, back after these promotional considerations.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello everyone, this is former Pro Wrestling Slash Sports Entertainment

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<v Speaker 3>referee Jimmy Corderos, and you're listening to the new voice

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<v Speaker 3>of Pro wrestling Slash Sports Entertainment in the GTA, Ringside

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<v Speaker 3>Heat right here on News Talk SAGA nine sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>Am, No Radio, No Problem. Stream is live on SAGA

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<v Speaker 1>nine sixty am dot CAA. Hey guys, I'm Sean Spears

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<v Speaker 1>and you're listening to Ringside Heat.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome back to Ringside Heat on New Stocks Saga

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<v Speaker 2>nine sixty am ten at Lextan Media, Ringside Heat at Ringside,

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<v Speaker 2>Underscore Heat at Instagram x, Facebook, TikTok threads. Kind of

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<v Speaker 2>forgot where where we put up stuff either way, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is episode two twenty two. Contracts, characters and chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>We still have quite a bit of show to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about over here. That's a little bit of airtime that

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<v Speaker 2>we have since I did cut that last segment short.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're gonna have you know, a tee up for Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an event later on the segment, but I want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about character development, why and why that matters.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a solo episode over here, so it's just

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<v Speaker 2>me again. Slap of my gums. Now, let's go back

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<v Speaker 2>to Friday Night SmackDown Strong Show. But this week I

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<v Speaker 2>want to stay with Monday Night Raw for a moment

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<v Speaker 2>because Raw gave us two very different example character development,

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<v Speaker 2>one bit and one beautiful. Wrestling fans talk a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about pushes, belts, match ratings, and booking. I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 2>you match ratings people, but the thing that really makes

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<v Speaker 2>people invest and makes me invest personally is character movement,

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<v Speaker 2>not just who wins, but who changed, who betrayed someone,

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<v Speaker 2>who finally said what they meant, who revealed what they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted all along, who got exposed, and who became undeniable.

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<v Speaker 2>A wrestling match can make you clap, a character arc

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<v Speaker 2>makes you remember why you cared in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're gonna frame all of this with the Alpha

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<v Speaker 2>Academy fallout, a family that finally broke Number one after

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<v Speaker 2>the El Grandie Americano match between og Elgrande Americano unmasked

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<v Speaker 2>to be Chad Gable and Elveni Aricano as like as

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<v Speaker 2>a Chico, and I would like to call him El

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<v Speaker 2>Venti Americano. Obviously we know break the kfee it is

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<v Speaker 2>loudvig Kaiser, but hey, kudos to the livid Kaiser again

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<v Speaker 2>for be able to learn Spanish and become fluent in

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<v Speaker 2>Spanish that he could cut promos and get into the

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<v Speaker 2>hearts and the minds of the Mexican wrestling fans. And hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it. I loved it, and I cheer along

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<v Speaker 2>with the Mexican wrestling fans over there. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>see El Venti Americano be the Elgrandi Americano and uh

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<v Speaker 2>and and uh, but you know, we will talk about

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<v Speaker 2>how Chad Gable created such goodwill, did his did his

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<v Speaker 2>duty so amazingly well that he as Chad Gable, has

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<v Speaker 2>now become a universally cheered wrestler in w w A.

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<v Speaker 2>But not to one woman, Maxine Dupree. A few weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 2>Chad Gable was denied forgiveness when he wanted to get

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<v Speaker 2>back and be with the Alpha Academy again. Chad came

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<v Speaker 2>looking for forgiveness, Maxine dupre denied him, even though Otis

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<v Speaker 2>and Tazawa wanted to welcome him back. Maxine told him

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<v Speaker 2>that he was not welcomed back and told Otis and

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<v Speaker 2>Tazawa as well. And at the time this looks like

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<v Speaker 2>Maxine drawing a boundary, and that made sense. Forgiveness does

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<v Speaker 2>not always mean immediate restoration. Someone can forgive you and

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<v Speaker 2>still say you cannot come back in the same role.

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<v Speaker 2>You do not get the same access. Trust has to

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<v Speaker 2>be rebuilt. Repentance is not a magic key that unlocks

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<v Speaker 2>every door that you damaged. Forgiveness is not pretending the

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<v Speaker 2>wound never happened. Sometimes forgiveness says I release you from revenge,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do not hand you the keys again. And

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<v Speaker 2>now this past week on Monday Night Raw, Maxine turns heel.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it boundary or bitterness now Maxine? Or at least

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks ago, two raws ago, Maxine helps the Vision

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<v Speaker 2>win the tag titles. This is a pivot to the twist.

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<v Speaker 2>Maxine helps the Vision win the tag team titles. She

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<v Speaker 2>does it via a low blow to Angela Dawkins, and

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly her I'm done with Chad stance becomes a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more complicated. Was she protecting herself? Was she out

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<v Speaker 2>growing the Alpha Academy? Or was she simply looking for

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<v Speaker 2>a new power structure. First Maxine looked like a woman

515
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<v Speaker 2>setting boundaries. Now she looks like a woman choosing ambition

516
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<v Speaker 2>with brass knuckles and doing it via a power couple

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<v Speaker 2>romance with one Austin Theory. And I mentioned before that

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<v Speaker 2>I like this pairing. I like this. When a romantic

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<v Speaker 2>storyline goes heal, it can go very well, it can

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<v Speaker 2>go badly. But one way it has gone so well

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<v Speaker 2>is with Dirty Dom and Rio Ripley. Look what happened

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<v Speaker 2>with her? She is now from Australia. She's from Australia

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<v Speaker 2>and she is known worldwide as Mommy. And now we've

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<v Speaker 2>also got that same thing happening we Live Morgan and

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<v Speaker 2>Dirty Dom, and that pairing has lasted and has been

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<v Speaker 2>entertaining and has prevailed Living Dirty Dom works because Dom

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<v Speaker 2>became more than Ray's Brady's son, and that because and

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<v Speaker 2>that was also the case with Riha Ripley, but would

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<v Speaker 2>Live Morgan it was more pronounced Live Morgan gained sharper

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<v Speaker 2>heat and clearer identity and say what you want about

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<v Speaker 2>say what you want about her theme song, Eh, you

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<v Speaker 2>know she still has a clearer identity about her character.

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<v Speaker 2>The chemistry between Dom and Live, even though they don't

534
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<v Speaker 2>make out because you know, Dom is a married man

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure they all respect that. They just do

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<v Speaker 2>eskimo kisses and jumping in each other into each other's arms,

537
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:22.719
<v Speaker 2>things like that. The chemistry between them strengthened the faction

538
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<v Speaker 2>of the Judgment Day and their act became bigger than

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<v Speaker 2>either character alone. Maxine and Austin Theory have the potential

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<v Speaker 2>to do something similar for the Vision. The right pairing

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<v Speaker 2>and wrestling is alchemy. Two characters touch and suddenly both

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<v Speaker 2>of them have a reason to exist louder and It's

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<v Speaker 2>and It's not just what the romantic storylines. It is

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<v Speaker 2>also something that you see with the best rivalries in wrestling.

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<v Speaker 2>Now why this could work for Maxine In Austin Theory,

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<v Speaker 2>Maxine oct to her credit, has improved her acting's better,

547
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<v Speaker 2>her time better. She carries herself in more confidence. A

548
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:05.559
<v Speaker 2>heel turn just gives her the sharper edges. She's no

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00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:08.800
<v Speaker 2>longer the woman learning wrestling beside Otis and Tazawa or

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<v Speaker 2>Otis back in the day. She now has agency, cruelty,

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00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:17.679
<v Speaker 2>and direction. Maxine is no longer just reacting. She is

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<v Speaker 2>freely choosing, and the moment a character starts freely choosing,

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<v Speaker 2>the audience starts watching differently. Austin Theory needed this. Austin

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<v Speaker 2>Theory has talent, He has the look, he has the physique,

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00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 2>he has the presence, but compared to Logan, Paul and

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<v Speaker 2>Brown Breaker, he lacked a distinct spark and in the

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00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:43.719
<v Speaker 2>vision he risked feeling like the group's Marty Janetti. Maxine's

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00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.559
<v Speaker 2>involvement gives him a personal angle. It gives the people

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<v Speaker 2>the reason to boo him beyond he smug. Austin Theory

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<v Speaker 2>has always had the ingredients. What he needed was the seasoning.

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<v Speaker 2>Maxine might be the salt, the pepper, and a little

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<v Speaker 2>dash a poison. Now the confort between Tozawa and Otis.

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<v Speaker 2>The real wound was with Otis. Tazawa's question you expected

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<v Speaker 2>to Otis to demand an explanation. Of course, Tazawa, being

565
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<v Speaker 2>a good friend, he says, Austin's not a good guy,

566
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<v Speaker 2>why are you with him? He wasn't looking for backstage gossip.

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<v Speaker 2>He was asking the question every friend asking when someone

568
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:25.559
<v Speaker 2>they love chooses a bad road? Why him? But the

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<v Speaker 2>Maximum Male Models payoff? This is where Otis. The Otis

570
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:34.400
<v Speaker 2>piece hits Otis and Maxine floating around for years from

571
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Maximum Male Models, there was always this little comedic, awkward,

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<v Speaker 2>wishful film. A dynamic. Otis gets over because he's charismatic.

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00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.199
<v Speaker 2>He moves incredibly well for his size, he has real personality.

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00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:48.119
<v Speaker 2>Fans like seeing the big, lovable guy. Tweetdaking matters, and

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<v Speaker 2>to tease, the fiction between him and Maxine gave audiences

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<v Speaker 2>something sweet to root for. Otis got over because he

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<v Speaker 2>was not just big, He was open hearted. He was

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that made fans think, maybe the sweet dude

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<v Speaker 2>gets it this time, Maybe the sweet dude is seen,

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<v Speaker 2>but the cruelty of the turn Otis just gets mocked.

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<v Speaker 2>He tries to get his feelings out. For character like Otis,

582
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.800
<v Speaker 2>vulnerability is the high spot. It's not the big slams,

583
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:19.760
<v Speaker 2>it's not the caterpillar, it's his heart. The dangerous move

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<v Speaker 2>was not a dive off the top rope. It was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to say what he felt. He stuttered through it.

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00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:29.239
<v Speaker 2>Theory mocked Otis. That's expected heel work. It works because

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<v Speaker 2>it pokes the audience's protective instinct. They don't boot theory

588
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:35.000
<v Speaker 2>because he is arrogant. They boo because he is humiliating

589
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:39.320
<v Speaker 2>someone who dared to be sincere. The fastest way to

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<v Speaker 2>turn a crown against you is to mock sincerity. People

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00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:49.159
<v Speaker 2>can forgive arrogance, they hate cruelty. Maxine intervenes just when

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<v Speaker 2>Otis might overpower theory. She talks Otis down and then

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<v Speaker 2>classic heel theory, hitting the low blow during this, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Maxine rides Otis for thinking that he ever had

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<v Speaker 2>a chance with her brutal It weaponizes the very thing

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00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:10.079
<v Speaker 2>that helped Otis get over. They took the wish fulfillment

597
00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:12.119
<v Speaker 2>and shattered it in front of the audience, and whether

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00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.199
<v Speaker 2>you like it or hate it. That is effective here work,

599
00:39:17.000 --> 00:39:20.280
<v Speaker 2>but it was never likely that WWE obviously would pair

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<v Speaker 2>Otis at Maxine romantically in a long term serious way.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrestling works because the emotional possibility remains. We know wrestling

602
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:32.440
<v Speaker 2>is constructed, we know archetypes exist, we know presentation matters,

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00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:36.639
<v Speaker 2>but emotions still land Otis being rejected hurts because the

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00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:40.559
<v Speaker 2>audience remembers being laughed at, underestimated, friend zone, dismissed, or

605
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<v Speaker 2>treated as impossible. Wrestling is not real except for all

606
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<v Speaker 2>the ways it absolutely is. I'd say that again, wrestling

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<v Speaker 2>is not real except for all the ways it absolutely is.

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<v Speaker 2>So going forward, Maxine is a heel. She has clear direction,

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<v Speaker 2>She is not confused. She has not merely hurt. She's

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<v Speaker 2>choosing power, status, cruelty, and romance. Austin theory has his

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<v Speaker 2>heat that people can care about. Austin Theory is not

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<v Speaker 2>just arrogant. He took advantage of Maxine's turn and humiliated Otis.

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<v Speaker 2>That gives people to want him punched in the face.

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<v Speaker 2>It's excellent wrestling economy, beautiful, Alpha Academy effectively gone, Chad

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<v Speaker 2>is gone, Maxine turns, all Otis and Tazawa are left behind.

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<v Speaker 2>They become the good hands again, unless WW gives him

617
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<v Speaker 2>the next chapter. Alpha Academy did not explode all at once,

618
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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes that is sadder. Now, just a little side

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<v Speaker 2>note here. If Maxine had a brother around to tell

620
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<v Speaker 2>her to make better choices, then maybe he could have

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<v Speaker 2>talked some sense in her. But na, nah, we don't

622
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<v Speaker 2>talk about that anymore, though I will say he does

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<v Speaker 2>look like a certain megastar. Yeah. Now over to Chad Gable.

624
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<v Speaker 2>As I mentioned earlier, and I then mentioned the last

625
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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks El Grande Americano that saved him. The

626
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:05.159
<v Speaker 2>storyline gave Chad Gable something rare, comedy, absurdity, technical excellence,

627
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:09.599
<v Speaker 2>Luca respect, Heath catharsis a second life. The Elgrande Americano

628
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<v Speaker 2>story should have been the kind of thing that gets

629
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<v Speaker 2>a man laughed out of relevance. Instead, Chad Gable wrestled

630
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<v Speaker 2>it into a career resurrection. Mexico booed o g l Grande,

631
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<v Speaker 2>but respected the man Chad Gable. That's a beautiful paradox

632
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:29.880
<v Speaker 2>outside the mask, fans respect the Chad's role in making

633
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<v Speaker 2>the current El Grande, or as a column, as Chico

634
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:36.440
<v Speaker 2>calls him, El Venti Americano played by Ludvik Kaiser, such

635
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:39.639
<v Speaker 2>a beloved character. They booed the mask, but they applauded

636
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 2>the craftsman beneath it, and that is where the money

637
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:47.719
<v Speaker 2>is for the WWE. For triplet Ah, the goodwill carries worldwide.

638
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<v Speaker 2>Respect did not stay in Mexico. It followed him. Fans

639
00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.320
<v Speaker 2>around the world started recognizing how hard he committed to

640
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<v Speaker 2>the bit, how good the matches actually were, how much

641
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<v Speaker 2>he elevated the story, how selfless his work had actually become.

642
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<v Speaker 2>Even though he was the original El Grande. He gave

643
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<v Speaker 2>it up for Ludvig Kaiser to be the real El

644
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<v Speaker 2>Grande or to be the dominant El Grande, and showed

645
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<v Speaker 2>how valuable he is to WWE and to the entire

646
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<v Speaker 2>wrestling industry. Sometimes the crowd does not just reward the character,

647
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<v Speaker 2>but sometimes they reward the worker behind the character, making

648
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<v Speaker 2>decisions for making the ridiculous feel real. And so he

649
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:30.199
<v Speaker 2>has been rewarded with an INCHA Continental title match against

650
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<v Speaker 2>Penta at SummerSlam. He earned it and Penta is the

651
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 2>perfect opponent here. The Icy title works because it's the

652
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<v Speaker 2>worker's crown. The match can blood technical wrestling Luca influence

653
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:44.320
<v Speaker 2>and character stakes. It couldn't happen to a better guy.

654
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.800
<v Speaker 2>The Icy title has always been the belt for the

655
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<v Speaker 2>wrestlers who make wrestling feel like craft, and Chad Gable

656
00:42:50.280 --> 00:42:56.719
<v Speaker 2>belongs in that conversation characters develop. The character development is

657
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<v Speaker 2>winning with WWE, with AEG the larger industry all putting

658
00:43:01.519 --> 00:43:03.400
<v Speaker 2>up strong material. It is hard for one company to

659
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:07.000
<v Speaker 2>dominate the conversation every week, but that's a great sign

660
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.400
<v Speaker 2>for the industry and the whole because the business is

661
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:12.039
<v Speaker 2>healthier when companies have to fight for attention through better stories,

662
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:16.400
<v Speaker 2>better characters, and better execution. When everybody is producing good wrestling,

663
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:18.639
<v Speaker 2>you cannot coast on brand power. You have to make

664
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<v Speaker 2>people care. And right now the industry is remembering the

665
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:28.800
<v Speaker 2>character is not decoration. Character is the engine. Maxine's heel

666
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.360
<v Speaker 2>turned shows what happens when hurt, ambition, or status becomes

667
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 2>a weapon. In Catholic terms, because I'm Catholic, the human

668
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 2>person is never tooled. So when Maxine uses Otis's vulnerability

669
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<v Speaker 2>to humiliate him, that is moral ugliness that she rejected him.

670
00:43:44.679 --> 00:43:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Rejection can be honest. Humiliation is different. The sin of

671
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 2>that moment was not that Maxine did not return Otis's feelings.

672
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Nobody owes you romance, nobody does. The ugliness was using

673
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:59.679
<v Speaker 2>his heart as a prop beautiful storytelling Otis and human dignity.

674
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:04.039
<v Speaker 2>This remains lovable and dignified even when mocked. A per

675
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<v Speaker 2>person's worth is not measured by desirability, useful as status

676
00:44:07.199 --> 00:44:10.599
<v Speaker 2>or victory. Otis does not become less worthy because Maxine laughs.

677
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:13.159
<v Speaker 2>And that is true in wrestling, and frankly it is

678
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:17.079
<v Speaker 2>true in life. And Chad Gable and his redemption through

679
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:20.199
<v Speaker 2>his craft. Chad's arc shows that sometimes redemption is not

680
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:23.400
<v Speaker 2>a speech. Sometimes redemption is the long obedience of doing

681
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:27.320
<v Speaker 2>excellent work. He committed, he elevated others, He made the

682
00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:31.960
<v Speaker 2>bit matter audience notices. Sometimes redemption looks at a less

683
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:36.079
<v Speaker 2>dramatic apology, like showing up doing the work and letting

684
00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:38.960
<v Speaker 2>your craft become the apology your mouth could not finish.

685
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:42.599
<v Speaker 2>Grace does not erase consequences, but grace can turn consequences

686
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<v Speaker 2>into formation. And if wrestling teaches us anything, it's that

687
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:47.559
<v Speaker 2>a man can lose his stable, He could lose his mask,

688
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:49.920
<v Speaker 2>He could lose his crowd for a while and still

689
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:53.159
<v Speaker 2>find his way back through the work. That's what Rog

690
00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 2>gave us this week. Maxine shows power and became dangerous.

691
00:44:56.599 --> 00:45:00.599
<v Speaker 2>Austin finally gave some, finally gots rather some he needed heat,

692
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:03.400
<v Speaker 2>always got his heart stepped on, but not his dignity erased.

693
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Tazawa remains the friend asking the honest question, and Chad Gables, somehow,

694
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<v Speaker 2>through one of the weirdest storylines of the year, may

695
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<v Speaker 2>have rebuilt himself into the Intercontinental Championship defender and possibly

696
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:19.119
<v Speaker 2>the Intercontinental Champion. That is character development, not just wins

697
00:45:19.280 --> 00:45:26.800
<v Speaker 2>and losses, but we have choices and consequences. Ringside Heat

698
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<v Speaker 2>on New Stock, Saga nine sixty am. Just a few

699
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<v Speaker 2>more minutes left here in the show, Episode two twenty

700
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<v Speaker 2>two context, contracts, characters, and chaos. Let's look at the

701
00:45:34.920 --> 00:45:38.079
<v Speaker 2>Saturay Night's main event card really quickly. Dan Housen versus

702
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:42.000
<v Speaker 2>JD McDonough's notice qualification. JD McDonough with Raymisterio we at

703
00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:48.320
<v Speaker 2>ringside Shenanigan's guaranteed Dan Housen notice qualification match with dom

704
00:45:48.880 --> 00:45:51.599
<v Speaker 2>Is nearby is not a stipulation. It is a haunted

705
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:57.239
<v Speaker 2>carnival with a referee intel. Now I'd say JD's gonna lose.

706
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Dan Housen's gonna win this one because it's New York,

707
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.840
<v Speaker 2>because the NBA Championship in New York next, et cetera,

708
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:04.639
<v Speaker 2>et cetera, et cetera. It's gonna be a good will

709
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:06.199
<v Speaker 2>match and it's gonna be a fun one to start

710
00:46:06.239 --> 00:46:09.079
<v Speaker 2>off the show. I believe Paige and Bribella versus the

711
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:14.039
<v Speaker 2>field influence this could be. This could be the match

712
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.920
<v Speaker 2>where Page and Bribella possibly break up, lose the Champ

713
00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:20.119
<v Speaker 2>Team Championships, possibly when Nikki Bella comes back. But it

714
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:25.000
<v Speaker 2>also could be the graduation ceremony for Lanny Reed, Fallon

715
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Henley and j C. Jane coming up from NXT. So

716
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping to see that something could happen that could

717
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:38.599
<v Speaker 2>lead up the SummerSlam between these two teams or more.

718
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Next match, Bailey versus Lyra Valkyria Ken character developments. Lyra

719
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:48.679
<v Speaker 2>Valkyria on Raw not just turned on Bailey, but she deteriorated.

720
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:52.519
<v Speaker 2>She came to ringside, as said by Corey Graves, looking

721
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.719
<v Speaker 2>like the frustration had physically changed her, looking like she

722
00:46:55.760 --> 00:46:57.639
<v Speaker 2>had not showered in a week and was not just

723
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:02.000
<v Speaker 2>and it told the audience this pressure is finally getting

724
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:05.000
<v Speaker 2>to her. Larry did not just turn heel, she started unraveling.

725
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Now here's the thing. I think Bailey's will still win

726
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:11.960
<v Speaker 2>this match because of this could be a crowning moment

727
00:47:11.960 --> 00:47:16.280
<v Speaker 2>for Larra somewhere down the line. And we've also got

728
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:19.880
<v Speaker 2>cmpunk versus Cody, Rhoads versus gunther and Sammy Zain. This

729
00:47:19.960 --> 00:47:22.440
<v Speaker 2>is the main event of setning an intimate event with

730
00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:26.159
<v Speaker 2>SummerSlam implications. Cody just lost the title. Cmpunk is now

731
00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:29.400
<v Speaker 2>in line for Cody at SummerSlam. Gunthar has been pressuring

732
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<v Speaker 2>Nick all this for a title shot. Sammy Zain has

733
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<v Speaker 2>both won and lost the title in the short span,

734
00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:37.719
<v Speaker 2>and he's entitled to his title shot. His remax. Rather,

735
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:43.840
<v Speaker 2>the undispeated Championship scene is unstable, and isn't that the

736
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:48.719
<v Speaker 2>great way to make sure wrestling is unpredictable? Throw in

737
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:54.599
<v Speaker 2>some instability. This is the surprising part. It's the ww

738
00:47:54.639 --> 00:47:58.400
<v Speaker 2>WE undispeated Championship. It is the ping pong title of

739
00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>the two major world titles. Here. For years, the world

740
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:04.559
<v Speaker 2>title is foot lockdown for long rains, and now the

741
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:08.840
<v Speaker 2>undisputed Championship is the one that's volatile. Sammu wins, Sammy loses,

742
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Cody loses, Punk steps in gunt their precious management. Everyone

743
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:18.280
<v Speaker 2>smells the opportunity for the signature title of the WWE

744
00:48:20.159 --> 00:48:22.519
<v Speaker 2>Saturday Night. It's an event Madison Square Garden. Not just

745
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.039
<v Speaker 2>to stop on the character. It's a measuring stick. We'll

746
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:27.519
<v Speaker 2>find out if Dan House's Crossover Magic is still very nice,

747
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:29.679
<v Speaker 2>very evil and very New York. We'll find out if

748
00:48:29.679 --> 00:48:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Fatal Influence is ready to take the Women's Tank Division

749
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:35.440
<v Speaker 2>by the throat. We'll find out Lyra Valkyrias frustration, if

750
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:37.800
<v Speaker 2>it cracked her or only pushed her to go too far.

751
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:39.719
<v Speaker 2>And we will find out whether Cody roads and see

752
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:41.599
<v Speaker 2>him Punk and stand beside each other for one night

753
00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:44.519
<v Speaker 2>before trying to tear each other apart at SummerSlam. MSG

754
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:47.400
<v Speaker 2>will not just post history. It'll sometimes heckle history. I

755
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:50.159
<v Speaker 2>tell history gets better. That's all the time we have

756
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<v Speaker 2>here for you here at Ringside Heat. My name is Lextan.

757
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<v Speaker 2>Follow me at wexta media fod of the show at

758
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<v Speaker 2>Ringside Underscore Heat. We remember the things that you probably

759
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<v Speaker 2>forgot