WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:09.400 Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bubo. These guys 2 00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:13.160 are your favorites, so light share, subscribe and rain it 3 00:00:13.359 --> 00:00:23.600 lip stick and on Yesterday and listening watching Limb always 4 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:24.879 keep its watching. 5 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:30.399 And now you're hosts Cliff Barrickman and James Boobo Fay. 6 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:34.000 I hear the resonant sounds of Bobo's new Man cave. 7 00:00:34.520 --> 00:00:35.759 Yep, you're hearing it. 8 00:00:35.759 --> 00:00:38.039 It sounds cavernous. 9 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:41.000 It's not cavernous. I'm up in the guest room. 10 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:43.159 Okay, but's just is it kind of like the bat 11 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:45.200 cave at all? I mean, is it the stone walls 12 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:47.079 with like flying rodents or anything. 13 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:52.280 It's got all redwood, little four inch tongue and grooves 14 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:55.079 slaps around the whole thing on the walls, and then 15 00:00:55.119 --> 00:00:57.479 it's got a white panted roof. So it's not it's 16 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:59.840 not totally dark at all. It's it's it's a pretty 17 00:00:59.880 --> 00:01:01.640 nice balance nice. 18 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:04.680 That sounds great, man, because your other house, being right 19 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:07.079 on the beach, was often very gloomy and stuff like that, 20 00:01:07.280 --> 00:01:09.560 and you know it had dark wooden walls, so it 21 00:01:09.599 --> 00:01:12.840 was darker inside than so your new situation is much 22 00:01:12.879 --> 00:01:13.920 more bright and cheery. 23 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:16.599 Yeah, I did the last couple of days. I get up, 24 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:19.799 I look and I look west down the bedroom milks 25 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:21.400 due west and I look out. I just see this 26 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:23.879 gray wall like about five miles away over on. 27 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:27.159 The coast, meaning the cloud the fog, right, yeah, the 28 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:29.920 coastal fog. Holy smell. You're out of the fog. 29 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:32.200 Wow, it's weird. 30 00:01:32.560 --> 00:01:33.560 That's kind of cool though. 31 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:36.799 Yeah, I'm stuck. I'm stuked. I mean, like, you know, 32 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:38.799 I'm a little homesick when we miss like there's certain 33 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:41.439 things we miss, you know. But it's cool. I'm excited 34 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:42.680 for the change. Yeah. 35 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:45.480 Well, it's better to be homesick than sick with black mold, 36 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:52.280 like like the last place, you know exactly. Oh that's great. Well, congratulations. 37 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:53.840 How did the move go. That must have been because 38 00:01:53.840 --> 00:01:57.319 you've been pretty uh entrenched, I guess in that last 39 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:58.359 place for decades. 40 00:01:59.040 --> 00:02:02.040 Yeah, And hell, I had no I knew it was 41 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:04.079 going to be a hassle, but I had no idea 42 00:02:04.280 --> 00:02:06.719 how bad because when I moved in, like I just 43 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:09.240 kind of moved like I had another place. I was 44 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:13.000 living at that beach house. The rent was like three 45 00:02:13.199 --> 00:02:15.560 twenty five or something when I moved in, and I 46 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:17.719 was splitting it with Kyle. So you know, it's like 47 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:19.120 I had a beach house for like less than two 48 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:21.520 hundred bucks a month. So I was like, oh sweets. 49 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:23.560 I'd go back and forth, and over the course of 50 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:26.680 a couple of years, stuff moved in. And then when 51 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:28.520 I moved in, moved in, I didn't have any good 52 00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:29.879 stuff at my old house because it was just a 53 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:31.759 total party pass or everything. It was the rash. I 54 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:33.520 just got rid of it and just moved in and 55 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:35.599 just got you know, bought a couple of couches and 56 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:38.439 you know, it was it just transition. It was nothing. 57 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:41.120 It took me like two hours to move in. You 58 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:42.120 know when I moved. 59 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:45.080 Places in your hont A Civic. 60 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:49.199 Yeah, oh, this wasn't funny, but it was kind of crazy. 61 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:51.759 Was we were moving my big half ton gun safe. 62 00:02:52.120 --> 00:02:53.479 Yeah, it's a big one man, what is it six 63 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:54.240 feet tall? 64 00:02:54.439 --> 00:02:56.719 Yeah, And we were hauling it up there. We were 65 00:02:56.759 --> 00:02:59.360 there was four of us hauling it up the stairs 66 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:04.520 and had it on a big special Dolly, heavy duty 67 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:07.120 dolly for moving that kind of stuff. I was pushing 68 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:09.520 up from below and Albo was pushing from below, and 69 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:13.400 then these two other guys, jeffro and trash on top 70 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:17.919 pulling and the matt was there to wipe your feet off, 71 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:20.800 and he leaned back and pushed off so hard it 72 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:22.759 shot out. That shot the mat out from under him, 73 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:24.759 and he landed on his back, and then Jeffro couldn't 74 00:03:24.759 --> 00:03:27.120 hold it by himself and so it fell on both 75 00:03:27.159 --> 00:03:30.800 of them. Dude, that crushed him dead. No, no, just 76 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:34.719 like bad bruising and banged up and just really sore. 77 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:37.599 And Jeffro got kind of tore up. He had lost 78 00:03:37.599 --> 00:03:39.400 a bunch of skin off was like his whole upper 79 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:42.680 arm and down his arm forearm. And he was leaving 80 00:03:42.680 --> 00:03:44.719 the next day to go on a tuna trip out 81 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:47.280 of San Diego, h and m on a long long 82 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:49.680 range tuna trip. But it's not the best time they 83 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:51.479 go out to see on a fishing boat. When he 84 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:54.000 got he's probably got like one hundred and fifty square 85 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:56.000 inch gap of missing skin. 86 00:03:56.439 --> 00:03:59.120 Oh jeez, well you sold it to me. When you 87 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:00.319 called me and gave me the date. 88 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:02.639 You were like, Oh, they're totally cool because they're skaters 89 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:04.879 and they like love scars and stuff, so they're. 90 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:08.479 Cool, I said, I said, they love scars. They're just 91 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:10.759 used to them. They don't care like they're both like 92 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:13.560 they're both hardcore skaters and just like whatever, like like 93 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:17.439 there's like they're they're covered in scars, so they're they're 94 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:18.600 just like, yeah, no worries. 95 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:21.319 Well, I'm sure that salt water will feel good on 96 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:26.800 that bear, like missing skin. Yeah in the sun? Oh man? 97 00:04:27.439 --> 00:04:30.800 Yeah, yeah, what's what's squatchy going on? Oh man? 98 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:33.639 Well, I went, I was in the woods this morning. 99 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:35.959 I did the dawn patrol. I was out there before 100 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:38.720 dark or before daylight rather in the dark. I found 101 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.519 a couple of maybes. And there's another spot that I 102 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.439 this other spot that I was working, but some other 103 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:48.920 people are working it also, and uh it turns out 104 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:51.360 like two weeks ago I found some fake tracks in 105 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:55.839 the area. So that's unfortunate, like obviously tracks, Yeah, so 106 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:59.319 so unfortunate. That's the first so which brings up a 107 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:01.000 lot of problems of course, you know, because there's a 108 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:02.639 hoaxer in the area, and so the. 109 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:04.680 Guy that told you probably told someone else that you're 110 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:06.040 up there looking around up there. 111 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:08.199 Well you know, these other guys been working the spot 112 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:10.319 for a while and stuff. But I think what the 113 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:12.759 deal is is that, I mean, I don't think it's 114 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:14.360 one of them, like I know them. I don't think 115 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:17.079 it's one of them. But they've been bringing other people there, 116 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:20.519 and word, I think word got out that they're working 117 00:05:20.560 --> 00:05:24.360 the spots, and I don't I don't know what the 118 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:26.360 deal is. I don't know like the whole you know, 119 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:28.360 politics sucks. 120 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:31.120 Do that sucks. That's why I keep it. I keep 121 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:32.839 it close to the vest. And that's why don't tell anyone. 122 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:34.360 Like I got a spot, like my good friends, I 123 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:35.360 don't tell them where it is. 124 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:37.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so simple, man. If you don't 125 00:05:37.959 --> 00:05:40.079 want people to know, don't tell them. It's that simple. 126 00:05:40.519 --> 00:05:42.839 But I don't know they I have no idea. Maybe 127 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:45.000 they wanted the attention, maybe they won't just like bring 128 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:46.879 their friends out and show them or something. But but 129 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.319 you know, you tell one person and then well that 130 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:52.079 that one person is going to say, oh, I can 131 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:54.439 tell my brother or I can tell my my buddy, 132 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:56.519 you know, and then they tell and the next thing, 133 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:59.199 you know, six or seven people know. And luckily that's 134 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:00.959 not my best spot, you know, because it's not my 135 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:04.040 best spot at all, but still it's a good enough 136 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:06.319 spot that I would go there with some frequency, you know. 137 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:09.079 But Now, anything that comes out of there I have 138 00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:12.920 to assume is hoaxed, or even if it's not. See, 139 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:15.079 that's the problem. There's been sightings in the area from 140 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:18.040 people I know and trust, so they are in the area, 141 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:20.439 you know. So it's one of these situations where we 142 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:24.360 have a good location that you know, there's a hoax 143 00:06:24.360 --> 00:06:26.600 in there now. And the best analogy I have, and 144 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:29.000 I've probably said it before in the podcast, like everybody 145 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:31.439 loves a hot tub, right, feels good you go into 146 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:34.079 jacuzzi or whatever, you sit there, it's delicious, right, it 147 00:06:34.079 --> 00:06:37.879 feels wonderful. Well, okay, now somebody takes a dump in 148 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:40.879 the jacuzzi. The water is still warm. It's gonna feel 149 00:06:40.920 --> 00:06:42.279 good if you go in, but you don't want to 150 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:44.560 go in there. Dude, there's a turn in there, and 151 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:46.600 then you'll probably never go in that hot tub again. 152 00:06:47.639 --> 00:06:50.079 And you know, there's a turn in the jacuzzie, basically, 153 00:06:50.199 --> 00:06:52.519 is what it comes down to. That's the best analogy 154 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:55.120 I have for it. Even if there are our sasquatches there, 155 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:57.720 none of the data, none of the information can be 156 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:02.120 used now none because who knows now that the good 157 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:04.199 news and there was no good news in this honestly. 158 00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:06.040 But one of the things about it is that I 159 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:10.720 was so capable of recognizing the wooden stomper thing because 160 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:14.000 London tracks, I'm very very well versed in that stuff. 161 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:16.560 But the stuff that i've I've previously gotten from this 162 00:07:16.600 --> 00:07:20.959 one particular area looks very very good. So there's a 163 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:23.639 reasonable chance that, like the hoaxing thing is brand new, 164 00:07:23.680 --> 00:07:26.439 because I think I would have recognized a hoax a 165 00:07:26.439 --> 00:07:28.639 while ago, you know, like maybe the six months ago 166 00:07:28.720 --> 00:07:31.639 or something like that, because these are so plainly fake. 167 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:34.079 So I don't know how. 168 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:36.839 Many how many were there, like of the of the 169 00:07:36.839 --> 00:07:38.600 the youse said the fake tracks, how many was there 170 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:39.720 like a whole trackway. 171 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:41.160 Or just a couple were Like now, it wasn't even 172 00:07:41.160 --> 00:07:43.079 a trackway. It was like a few tracks here and there. 173 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:44.759 I found two or three in one spot. Then a 174 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:48.879 couple hundred yards away I found the same stomper, leaving 175 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:52.639 about two, three, five, four. I don't know. I think 176 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:56.480 I came home with six or seven fake tracks. You 177 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:01.639 cast them, yeah, definitely, absolutely, Yeah. I personally think it's 178 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:04.399 very important to cast fake prints when you find them. 179 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:06.319 I thought you just cast one maybe if it's the 180 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:08.160 same one over and over, or you got to cast 181 00:08:08.160 --> 00:08:11.240 a couple to show us through repetitive I guess, yeah. 182 00:08:10.920 --> 00:08:12.959 Yeah, yeah, it's like the London tracks. Now, mind you, 183 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:15.800 I'm a bit obsessive about stuff. I have over seventy 184 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:19.879 of the London tracks, and I've said this often. If 185 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:22.399 I had one London track, if I would have just 186 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:25.199 chosen the best one and cast it, I would still 187 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:25.800 think they're real. 188 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:28.040 I just watched video on that the other day. I 189 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:29.759 was still kind of fooled by some of them. I 190 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:32.279 was like, like, we're like, did the Pirouette spin and 191 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:34.240 all that? I'm like, is that the best fake track 192 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:36.600 what you've seen? I mean, I haven't seen a lot 193 00:08:36.639 --> 00:08:38.120 of them, but I never saw it in person, but 194 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:39.399 the video I saw it, but that looked like the 195 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:40.320 best one I've seen. 196 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:44.039 Well, I mean now that, well, I learned so much 197 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:46.559 from the London tracks. I can't say I was naive, 198 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:49.039 but I was less way less experienced. At that point. 199 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:52.200 It was twenty twelve, you know, and tracks are fairly 200 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:54.960 rare and that sort of thing. But by the way, 201 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.039 there's still bigfooters out there that think the London tracks 202 00:08:57.039 --> 00:09:00.240 are real. Quite a few of them. Actually, one person 203 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:02.080 actually told me he's a kind of a paranormal guy 204 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:05.960 told me that the Bigfoots make their footprints look like 205 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:08.840 stompers in order to fool people like me, which I 206 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:12.960 think is ridiculous, of course, but it was at the 207 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:16.440 best trackway, I mean a lot. I personally think that 208 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:21.159 whoever faked that has some knowledge of sasquatch footprints. But 209 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:23.679 you know, the London track thing won't die. Last week, 210 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:25.919 I think it was last week, maybe the week before, 211 00:09:25.960 --> 00:09:28.120 I don't know if you don't elastic timeline issues. But 212 00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:32.000 recently this summer I got a text from these people 213 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:33.720 that I met. I think I met him at squatch 214 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:37.200 Fest last year in January. These people came up to 215 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:40.279 me and they said, yeah, yeah, our nephew knows about 216 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:42.000 the London tracks. He may have made them, or if 217 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:43.759 he didn't make them, he knows the person who did. 218 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:47.120 No way, Yeah yeah, like this past year in twenty 219 00:09:47.159 --> 00:09:50.919 twenty five. Now, of course, you know, that's no different 220 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:57.480 really in substance than someone saying, oh, my neighbor's cousin 221 00:09:57.600 --> 00:09:59.600 is the guy in the Patterson Gimlin film suit. R. 222 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:02.960 You know, it doesn't mean anything until there's some evidence 223 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:03.279 about it. 224 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:03.519 You know. 225 00:10:04.120 --> 00:10:07.320 But just this past week I got a text from 226 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:11.200 them saying that their nephew's ready to talk and I 227 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:12.879 should I should try to get a hold of them. 228 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:15.840 So I texted them back saying, that's awesome. Can I 229 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:18.360 have some contact information? And I have not heard back 230 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:20.879 from them yet, you know. So it's one of these things, 231 00:10:20.960 --> 00:10:23.480 just one of these people on the list that I 232 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:25.679 need to reach out to again and just start poking 233 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:27.960 and stuff. And I spoke to them on the phone 234 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:29.960 a few months back, I think in April or something 235 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:31.919 like that, and they said, Hey, he may not want 236 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:33.919 to talk because blah blah blah, you know. And I 237 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:36.200 guess if I had hoaxed something, I may not be 238 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:38.919 so willing to talk about it either or something. But 239 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:42.000 hopefully he is. I would love love, I mean not 240 00:10:42.159 --> 00:10:45.639 mind you. If anybody in the world has a reason 241 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:48.480 to want the London tracks to be real, it's me. 242 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:51.679 I was on TV saying they're real, you know, I 243 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:54.559 would love them to be real, but I know they're not. 244 00:10:55.240 --> 00:10:59.320 But I would love to get the Stompers. God, what 245 00:10:59.399 --> 00:11:02.519 a score that would be for the museum. Yeah, but 246 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:04.679 we digress. But yeah, it's a Q and a episode. 247 00:11:04.720 --> 00:11:07.279 So we're going to be taking some voicemails as we 248 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:09.840 always do, and then take some written questions for me. 249 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:11.320 All that will jump over to the member side and 250 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:13.759 do the same thing just for our pigeons because we 251 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:17.720 love them so much. So, Matt Prutt, do you want 252 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:19.679 to tell us how people can submit questions and then 253 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:21.240 give us one? Absolutely? 254 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:23.399 You can head over to Bigfoot and Beyond podcast dot 255 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.440 com and click the contact form or click the link 256 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:29.320 in the show notes aka the episode description below. 257 00:11:29.960 --> 00:11:33.320 Oh and the most requested Bobo storytime story that I've 258 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:36.759 always refused to tell. I got talked into telling the 259 00:11:36.799 --> 00:11:39.600 turn the driveway, Turn the Driveway story. 260 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:41.600 Oh really, that's a good one. 261 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:44.440 Yeah, so that's coming up. So if you look and 262 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:46.320 look forward to that, you tease. 263 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:52.159 Yeah, Well, here is the first voicemail. Hey guys, my 264 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:53.080 name's Larry Heck. 265 00:11:53.759 --> 00:11:57.440 I'm from the Saint Louis area and I've been interested 266 00:11:57.480 --> 00:12:00.840 in the subject of Bigfoot since the midnight nineteen fifties 267 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.559 when i read articles in some of my dad's Argacy 268 00:12:03.600 --> 00:12:10.240 and True magazines about the Edmund Hillary expedition, and anyway, 269 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:13.559 I've been following it ever since. But I just was 270 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:17.279 curious to know about what your opinion might be about 271 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:20.759 Reinhold Messner and the accounter he had a number of 272 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:24.279 years ago when he was crossing eastern Tibet on foot. 273 00:12:25.159 --> 00:12:27.159 He said he thought that it might be some kind 274 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:30.639 of a hybrid bear that he came face to face 275 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:33.600 with as it was getting dark. Anyway, I've heard the 276 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:37.279 account as he gave it to Mark Davies, and it 277 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:39.399 was I've always thought it was really a kind of 278 00:12:39.399 --> 00:12:42.240 a spooky thing. But I'd appreciate any comments that you 279 00:12:42.240 --> 00:12:45.320 guys might have. And anyway, keep up the good work. 280 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:51.159 Love listening to you guys, you Cliff and Bobo and. 281 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:54.200 Through it. You guys do a great job. 282 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:56.840 It's always a lot of fun. So I hope you 283 00:12:56.879 --> 00:12:59.159 all are having a great day, and take care. 284 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:02.960 I got I was so mad at him. I called 285 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:05.799 him a woosie after after when he came out and 286 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.000 recanted all that because he took so much grief. He 287 00:13:08.120 --> 00:13:11.480 like he caves. I read his book twice, and I 288 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:13.919 read the book I read about him, that all this 289 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:17.480 stuff Lauren Coleman wrote on him, And yeah, I mean 290 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:19.440 he said it was a bear that was standing up 291 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:23.399 right darting on two legs from rock to rock and whistling. Yeah. 292 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:25.240 I was just like, I was like, dude, because he 293 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:27.759 couldn't handle like people heckling on it. It's like you're 294 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:31.759 the bad most badass mountaineer ever. Like he's he's if 295 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:34.399 you read his stories, it's he did the most amazing 296 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:37.600 stuff and he was super respective, but he just couldn't 297 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:40.360 handle getting heckled. So he he came up with this 298 00:13:40.399 --> 00:13:44.279 whole thing about it was a bear, but he, uh, 299 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:47.600 he didn't discover that stuff about those bears, that those 300 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:51.440 when they're juveniles they climbed trees. Sub adolescens, they their 301 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:55.120 foot is actually the morphology of the foot changes, so 302 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:57.480 he can climb trees better. And think, that's what a 303 00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:00.919 lot of people thought were yetie track, except that warn't 304 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:04.840 yety tracks. So he kind of went with that, and 305 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:07.159 he just kind of went off on that direction. Ok. 306 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:10.679 I think I just found the section here in his book. 307 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:14.360 It's on page four. I'm going to read it here. Then, suddenly, 308 00:14:14.519 --> 00:14:17.840 silent as a ghost, something large and dark stepped into 309 00:14:17.840 --> 00:14:22.639 a space thirty feet ahead among the rhododendron bushes, a yak, 310 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:25.480 I thought, becoming excited at the thought of meeting some 311 00:14:25.480 --> 00:14:27.440 Tibetans and getting a hot meal and a place to 312 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:31.759 sleep that evening. But the thing stood still, then noiseless, 313 00:14:31.799 --> 00:14:36.480 and light footed. It raced across the forest floor, disappearing, reappearing, 314 00:14:36.720 --> 00:14:40.919 picking up speed. Neither branches nor ditches slowed its progress. 315 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:45.320 This was not a yak. The fast moving silhouette dashed 316 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:48.840 behind a curtain of leaves and branches, only to step 317 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:51.720 out into a clearing some ten yards away. For a 318 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:55.399 few seconds, it moved upright. It was as if my 319 00:14:55.480 --> 00:14:59.960 own shadow had been projected onto the thicket. For one heartbeat, 320 00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:03.440 it stood motionless, and then turned away and disappeared into 321 00:15:03.480 --> 00:15:06.559 the dusk. I had expected to hear it make some sound, 322 00:15:06.919 --> 00:15:10.399 but there was nothing. The forest remained silent. No stones 323 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:13.840 rolled down the slopes, no twigs snapped. I might have 324 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:19.039 heard a few soft footfalls in the grayness of the underbrush. 325 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:22.960 Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and beyond with Cliff and Bobo. 326 00:15:23.159 --> 00:15:31.320 We'll be right back after these messages. Hey, Boba, whatever 327 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:33.279 happened to your gone squatch and hat used to wear 328 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:34.039 and finding Bigfoot? 329 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:35.799 Now I don't have that hat anymore. I gave it 330 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:38.720 to Lauren Coleman for his museum. But I might be 331 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:41.720 asking for it back because I'm getting a little nervous 332 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:45.200 in summertime, getting too much so on the scalp up 333 00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:48.320 there now, and I'm getting bit uy a mosquitoes. There's 334 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:50.759 not a big lush crop to fend them off. 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I took a 366 00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:36.720 picture and changed and checked the soil around it. My 367 00:17:36.839 --> 00:17:38.519 shoes shit and sinking nearly as deeply. 368 00:17:39.079 --> 00:17:43.079 But yeah, so upright dashing about like his own shadow. 369 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:47.200 That doesn't sound like a bear, because what is at 370 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:49.160 the very end of it all That would probably be 371 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:52.400 much harder for me to find. But he comes at 372 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:55.039 the conclusion that, like no I saw a bear. I 373 00:17:55.039 --> 00:17:59.400 saw a bear silently upright dashing about that appeared as 374 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:03.599 if his own shadow was cast upon the Nah. Yeah, 375 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:06.000 I'm with you, Bobes. I think he was stout man. 376 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:08.519 You know. I think I think it's like the second 377 00:18:08.680 --> 00:18:12.640 last page hases his revamped I like when he changed 378 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:13.960 his his story. 379 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:16.200 Yeah, the second last page. 380 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:18.119 I think that's what it is. With the last page. 381 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:20.279 Maybe even well, I don't see it, and we do 382 00:18:20.319 --> 00:18:21.960 have a live podcast going on here, but in the 383 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:25.039 middle of the book, we do have a plate, a 384 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:30.440 photographic plate of the the footprint, and the footprint that 385 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:33.359 he photographed is clearly a bear. So what what? 386 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:34.200 What? What? 387 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:37.680 What's the deal? Did he not describe it appropriately in 388 00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:42.240 order to kind of lead us to believe that he 389 00:18:42.319 --> 00:18:45.920 was observing a yetti or did did he not? Was 390 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:48.839 he unable to identify it as a bear print right there? 391 00:18:48.920 --> 00:18:50.720 Because clear as day it's a bear print. You can 392 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:53.640 even see the nails in front of it. Yeah, So 393 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:56.160 there's something shady going on, like he either kind of 394 00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:59.480 teased and let us on and the later later lead 395 00:18:59.559 --> 00:19:02.640 us let us down, or he doesn't know what a 396 00:19:02.640 --> 00:19:04.759 bear print looks like, which I find a little hard 397 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:07.799 to believe. Yeah, I don't know. Something shady about that. 398 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:09.599 I don't and whatever is going on, I don't think 399 00:19:09.640 --> 00:19:12.880 it's cool. No, yeah, that's just my opinion. I don't. 400 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:15.599 I just think it's it's weird. Something's weird about it. 401 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:17.759