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Speaker 1: of the show. But so we've got Detective Jake Jacobs
Speaker 1: from philadela amaside announcer Involve un Unit. We've got Greg Island,
Speaker 1: veteran n c I, a special agent from Tennessee. It's
Speaker 1: right where it's where it's where it's.
Speaker 3: Hot, right, uh yeah, like twenty degrees right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm John Stetton, a veteran n zi's special agent.
Speaker 1: So we're pretty well covering uh, you know, the south
Speaker 1: and the northeast. But uh today mark in the next
Speaker 1: to last day of the year. And it's been in
Speaker 1: the son of a bitch of a year for a
Speaker 1: lot of people, for a variety of different reasons. Most importantly,
Speaker 1: at least in our profession, Street Cups Uh get the
Speaker 1: brunt of it. You know, they're the face of our profession.
Speaker 1: And it just so happens that uh two street Cups
Speaker 1: or or subject subjugated to a disaster this year, to
Speaker 1: include the Sergeant Infinity Day Finery and Officer Brad Lansord.
Speaker 1: We've talked about before, but this year has been particularly
Speaker 1: difficult for them, and as we launch into twenty six,
Speaker 1: their want they're following their appeals, So we want to
Speaker 1: make sure we watch those, you know, even though you
Speaker 1: you may not be in the profession, and it's not
Speaker 1: just a TV show, and it's not just an appeal
Speaker 1: that takes place an hour for an hour. It's all
Speaker 1: over you know. This thing goes on and on and
Speaker 1: destroys families and stuff like that, and we've got to
Speaker 1: that not with that happened.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: If we can. We've got three special guests. We've got
Speaker 1: Jennifer Finnerty, wife of Jennifer, how do you join? Are
Speaker 1: you good? And we've got Lacey uh Lanceford brad uh
Speaker 1: Off Bradford. We've got Matthew Overstreet, an easy brother and
Speaker 1: brother in law. Do I have that right, brother in law?
Speaker 1: Finally I have it right. And we're obviously we're still
Speaker 1: feeding the cows in the bedroom.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's a fan favorite.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, it's like a scene out of Yellowstone right, So.
Speaker 4: Only if we had a train station.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you guys have to have a here,
Speaker 5: and you've been fighting back every second of that year,
Speaker 5: and most people aren't that strong.
Speaker 1: To be able to keep having it up.
Speaker 6: Year on our family, our boys.
Speaker 7: I mean, they put our boys through, not just Brad,
Speaker 7: but it's our entire family. It's been so hard on
Speaker 7: my babies, you know, but they have been I'm so
Speaker 7: proud of the way that they handled everything. You know,
Speaker 7: they brave and kind and resilient and they just amazed
Speaker 7: me with how they handled all the ship that we've
Speaker 7: been through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now we're just that, you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to get into a big long dissertation about what happened.
Speaker 1: Let's just you know, and you guys can add whatever
Speaker 1: you want to, but it's it's two circumstances where for
Speaker 1: us shooters that are in positions that we couldn't be prosecutors,
Speaker 1: or I'm trying to make political points and it's obvious
Speaker 1: that they're only trying to make political points. If they're
Speaker 1: not using it for the greater good of human kin.
Speaker 1: This is an exercise in making political points for for
Speaker 1: their races. Specifically, h the new Mexico Attorney General is
Speaker 1: h Rau Tores right, right, Jake, who believes that perjury
Speaker 1: is protected under the First Amendment.
Speaker 2: We have to stop calling these guys prosecutors though, John,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, they're not. They're all criminals. And I know
Speaker 2: we can we go touch on jim it leasy stuff.
Speaker 2: But when you all all the stuff up that's going
Speaker 2: on around this country, these guys are not prosecuted, and
Speaker 2: we have to do something.
Speaker 8: Being cowards and we gotta fight.
Speaker 2: You know, boy, that's just saying they put they put
Speaker 2: our family through hell and and luckily her boys was
Speaker 2: strong to deal with.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Now, that's a that's a very good definition.
Speaker 1: They're political cowards, right, Yes, I mean they're using other
Speaker 1: people's you know, somebody brings something to somebody. You know,
Speaker 1: you can use this for a political points. They're they're
Speaker 1: only doing it for that. So both both Sergeant Erity
Speaker 1: and Officer Brad Ansor are part of the UH Pipitterer
Speaker 1: Foundation as uh, you know, people that they support and
Speaker 1: you can take a look at this. There's the sergeanty
Speaker 1: affinity and there's an officer brad answer and then thank
Speaker 1: you Bill, I appreciate that. And then we've got dafinity.
Speaker 1: I mean these are you know, uh yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I can't I can't tell you enough. You know, a
Speaker 1: million people watch TV shows, you know, they want to
Speaker 1: tell tell us about what that will happen. You know
Speaker 1: that's great. This isn't a TV show. This is this
Speaker 1: is real life and they affect your life and your
Speaker 1: kid's life and how long will that be, you know,
Speaker 1: for for indefinite period of time. But I want to
Speaker 1: just show a little bit of you know, there's another
Speaker 1: side to you a cop too, you know. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: a visit to the is it a peak country in
Speaker 1: the background it is?
Speaker 5: That's oh awesome, cope tissue.
Speaker 1: Okay, there's chargeant day, finnerty.
Speaker 9: Our weather looks a little different than me.
Speaker 1: Yeah it looks a little bit, yeah, a little bit colder. Okay.
Speaker 1: Now these are the kids, these are your kids, right correct.
Speaker 10: Emma's twenty, Skyler is ten, and Charlotte is eight. She
Speaker 10: just turned eight on the thirteenth of December. She was
Speaker 10: eight months old when this all started.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god. Now you're Patriots fans.
Speaker 8: You shouldn't show that picture to an Eagles fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, or a Bills fan, especially what child the
Speaker 1: Rady's knowing.
Speaker 9: They're not as good as when Tom Brady was there.
Speaker 10: Well, Drake is going, Okay, that was our town does
Speaker 10: It's almost like a Hallmark movie Christmas with lights and
Speaker 10: trees and then we go to meet Santa.
Speaker 9: So this was at our local library.
Speaker 7: Nice, that was our date night. Actually, you're right, it's
Speaker 7: hard to get him to smiling pictures.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a Lunsford tree.
Speaker 1: Is he's looking good though, he looks healthy.
Speaker 6: He's he's home and he's happy and healthy. And there's
Speaker 6: our two boys.
Speaker 1: Okay. So it's really a circumstance where neither one of
Speaker 1: these cases were secured up to the point where they
Speaker 1: would be prosecuted. One was already exonerated, Sergeant finnerd They
Speaker 1: was already exonerated. Officer Lunsford had to save himself and
Speaker 1: his partner.
Speaker 2: It's like I said, they don't care about the families.
Speaker 2: They we just saw the family photos. They don't care
Speaker 2: about the destruction of the family. You know, Brad should
Speaker 2: be getting a medal or a war or saving his
Speaker 2: partner's life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, in his own.
Speaker 8: Life and things of that nature.
Speaker 2: But instead he's dealing with this criminals that I refuse
Speaker 2: to call him.
Speaker 8: We have to do something.
Speaker 2: I mean, this lawfair that's going on throughout this country.
Speaker 2: These two officers was law biding citizens, and we took
Speaker 2: them down with judicial lawfair.
Speaker 8: They're criminals.
Speaker 2: They no longer judges, they longer longer prosecutors, they no
Speaker 2: longer anything. They're criminals, and they're destroying this country with
Speaker 2: this nonsense. And we're gonna step up and stop it,
Speaker 2: or we're gonna wait for the next.
Speaker 8: Lunch for infinity because it's going to happen.
Speaker 2: You know, if we might got this a three year window,
Speaker 2: we don't.
Speaker 8: Do something right now, we're in trouble.
Speaker 2: Eight months to eight years this I'm at this crap
Speaker 2: been going on and nobody stepped up for these fai exactly.
Speaker 1: Now there's there's investigations initiated on the use of political lawfare, right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, So we had the National Police Association on our
Speaker 7: behalf asked the d o J the U s c
Speaker 7: o J to investigate relators for violating.
Speaker 1: Brad civil rights, which which should have been the first
Speaker 1: thing that I would presume it was the first thing
Speaker 1: you guys thought of. I mean, it was certainly one
Speaker 1: of the first things we thought of. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't. There's so much going on that
Speaker 1: you've got to break it down like that, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You've got to be able to say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: this is where it's coming from. What's nipping in the immediately? Okay?
Speaker 1: So there's appeals out on both cases, right, Okay, Jennifer,
Speaker 1: I know that you were kind enough to read through
Speaker 1: the entire PDF of the appeal on Sunday, right, what
Speaker 1: can you tell us about it?
Speaker 10: Yes, I just finished the last part of it this morning,
Speaker 10: oh seventy nine pages.
Speaker 9: But it's I was glad I went through it.
Speaker 10: Obviously I have lived this, but it was nice to
Speaker 10: see it kind of written out and kind of justify
Speaker 10: what we were thinking during trial that they were basically
Speaker 10: trying Dave for the crime that Officer Bartlett committed.
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, So now can we discuss at all obscro Partlett.
Speaker 10: He was, He was the officer that used the force
Speaker 10: on the homeless gentleman. It was the end of the
Speaker 10: shift for the MBTA trains and the inspector asked him
Speaker 10: to come and assist with getting everybody off and the
Speaker 10: Anthony Wattson, a homeless individual would not leave the train,
Speaker 10: so Bartlett went to assist with getting him off and
Speaker 10: used unjustified force, but wied about it.
Speaker 1: What's his status now?
Speaker 9: He is still on parole.
Speaker 10: I believe he got two years probation, any mean parole probation,
Speaker 10: and he did testify at trial, and he had grand
Speaker 10: trial immunity, but did not have trial immunity because the
Speaker 10: statue of mutations had run out, so it didn't really
Speaker 10: matter if he had immunity or not because the statue
Speaker 10: mutations to charge him with the civil rights violations.
Speaker 9: Head it's awesome.
Speaker 1: Picture of the things. Isn't that screwed up?
Speaker 9: Mm hmm?
Speaker 1: I mean, Jake Craig, I mean, it's mind blowing. It's
Speaker 1: mind blowing that it's somebody that causes something like that.
Speaker 1: You know what, it gets away with it.
Speaker 2: You know what's amazing to me, Like I said, with
Speaker 2: this nonsense, it seems like with us, it's always the
Speaker 2: statue of limitations is running out in these you know.
Speaker 2: But with us, they gets you the third day you're
Speaker 2: already in jail to throw away the key. But with them,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh it's two years. One day is too late,
Speaker 2: it's five years, one of them is too late.
Speaker 8: It ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's almost like a time in m hmm.
Speaker 2: JA six is coming up. You know what I mean
Speaker 2: that that time is about to run out. It's the
Speaker 2: same stuff with these same people.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's a case of Philadelphia, just like yours, chid Well
Speaker 2: off so Dan, you'll have the same thing you had.
Speaker 2: Liars who does something, they get rewarded and Daniel love it.
Speaker 8: It's still going through it.
Speaker 2: So it's not just Boston, New Mexico, Philly is all
Speaker 2: over throughout this country and it's the same prep they
Speaker 2: get these immunities.
Speaker 8: Stop just rowl need to be a jail leage.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, yeah, okay, So what's the uh? Okay? So
Speaker 1: Raul Torres, the Attorney General of New Mexico, how to
Speaker 1: use the term right way because apparently he doesn't know
Speaker 1: what that he's doing other than politically as a political
Speaker 1: uh operative. He's the one that to problem in Mexico,
Speaker 1: then we've got a problem that's equally big in Boston. Right,
Speaker 1: and her name is what's her name?
Speaker 10: Well, Rachel Rollins was the one who's created problem. You
Speaker 10: work for a community college when she had to resign
Speaker 10: a disgrace from being the US attorney under Biden, and
Speaker 10: then they gave her a job at Roxbury Community College.
Speaker 9: I believe it is to educate criminals.
Speaker 1: Basically, who goes from assistant you? Who goes from your's
Speaker 1: attorney to community college?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 1: Greg? I mean that's an of her very clime, Jake, Right,
Speaker 1: that's an aprid climb. Yeah, all the US attorneys have
Speaker 1: aspired to be uh, you know, professors at the community
Speaker 1: got which is.
Speaker 2: Jesus Training school training next.
Speaker 1: Now interestingly interesting, I love enough not to get off track,
Speaker 1: but the corrupt Pennsylvania governor who caused a lot of
Speaker 1: problems became a professor at a community college. What's that title? Interesting?
Speaker 1: It's a career path. Right.
Speaker 10: They have no I think moral compass when they are
Speaker 10: in the position that they're in and then just say,
Speaker 10: oh well, we'll be taken care of later. The assistant
Speaker 10: US attorney who was trying Dave's case against him. She's horrible,
Speaker 10: she has a complaint about misconduct. She definitely did things incorrectly.
Speaker 10: And Dave's trial, what's.
Speaker 1: Your but being those two? You know what the claim
Speaker 1: to fame nothing as human beings, you know, pushing a
Speaker 1: false narrative, right bearing false witness.
Speaker 10: How about that she started the trial opening statements and
Speaker 10: closing statements were basically pulling on the jury's heartstrings about
Speaker 10: you know, they had to get justice for Anthony Watson,
Speaker 10: who was a homeless individual. So from the start it
Speaker 10: wasn't a fair trial because they were again trying Dave
Speaker 10: for the misconduct of a different officer and using the
Speaker 10: fact that Anthony Watson was homeless, and they tried to
Speaker 10: he was on the witness list to testify, and they
Speaker 10: weren't able to locate him at the time of trial
Speaker 10: to have him testify. But Dave was the only one
Speaker 10: that really helped him, so he I think would have
Speaker 10: helped our side, which maybe why they couldn't find him.
Speaker 8: Did they go to the corner where he was at
Speaker 8: the last time?
Speaker 10: Well, I think they definitely know where he was. Was
Speaker 10: that they gave him at ten and some money so
Speaker 10: that he had a roof over his head.
Speaker 1: Jesus, you know it's employeedbook. You know it's not the
Speaker 1: If it's not the Statue of immccasions, they can't find
Speaker 1: the person.
Speaker 2: Well, you got the prosecution hiding witnesses. When does that
Speaker 2: ever happen in our district? Is the usually I have
Speaker 2: to go try to find these dark witnesses right for
Speaker 2: the prosecution. I never said I never had a datl behay, Jake,
Speaker 2: could you go and hide this opless guy who was
Speaker 2: on the eleventh in Arch. Could you move him to
Speaker 2: seventeenth at JFK and give him a ten and twenty
Speaker 2: dollars so he can.
Speaker 8: Go to the seventy eleven. It's ridiculous and they're doing
Speaker 8: this and right in front of our faces.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like everybody saw in the video with Lacy.
Speaker 8: Everybody saw that video is open and shut.
Speaker 2: It's open and shut, grect and watched it probably a
Speaker 2: thousand times.
Speaker 8: It broke it down frame by frame right.
Speaker 3: The layers in the in the lunch fer case is
Speaker 3: just mind boggling in.
Speaker 11: The fact that everything that he did he was taught
Speaker 11: in the academy.
Speaker 3: In the sequence of the use of Lisa.
Speaker 11: Leath of Force and his department actually reviewed it and
Speaker 11: you know, said it was he did everything he was
Speaker 11: supposed to do. And and please correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 11: The Las crusis New Mexico is in what county, and
Speaker 11: Raoul Torres is the Attorney General, which there's several layers
Speaker 11: of government between that county and the Attorney General. So
Speaker 11: everybody up to the state level of the government said
Speaker 11: everything was it was by the book and and it
Speaker 11: was done accurately. And so the fact that you have
Speaker 11: this attorney general who then calls a subject matter expert
Speaker 11: who's never actually done a day and as a police
Speaker 11: officer as his expert witness and in the use of force,
Speaker 11: it's just the whole case just I.
Speaker 3: Can't really put it any better than it just it's
Speaker 3: it's ship.
Speaker 8: It sucks.
Speaker 12: Brad was cleared well, Brad was cleared by his own
Speaker 12: department correct lay and by a third party as well.
Speaker 12: This this case set and languished for almost two years
Speaker 12: before it was cherry picked by Raoul Torres intentionally and
Speaker 12: you know, just putting it out there. Something to consider too,
Speaker 12: that campaign donations from the civil Attorney. There's a correlation
Speaker 12: there and the link that needs to be investigated. The
Speaker 12: civil attorney representing the family has a long history of
Speaker 12: large campaign donations to rival torres and judges throughout the
Speaker 12: state of New Mexico. And we're talking to the two
Speaker 12: million millions.
Speaker 1: We had a picture of her. She's it's all bland
Speaker 1: that right, Yeah. Correct, he's the one that is pushing
Speaker 1: the civil side.
Speaker 12: Until her law firm represented the family, this case had
Speaker 12: no traction. The state was not pursuing it until yeah,
Speaker 12: he want, until she gained them as a client. Then
Speaker 12: all of a sudden it became a priority. Yeah, let's
Speaker 12: face facts. It's pure an absolute criminal activity.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 12: He knows that with a conviction against Brad that this
Speaker 12: city of Las Cruces will settle with the family at
Speaker 12: a tune of one hundred and twenty nine million dollars,
Speaker 12: and he stands to financially gain as along with all
Speaker 12: the other judges that are elected in the state of
Speaker 12: New Mexico.
Speaker 4: It's racketeering.
Speaker 2: And the thing is with that is that's the same
Speaker 2: playbook of all these people. Now, this case was nothing
Speaker 2: until they had a financial benefit. And I think there's
Speaker 2: laws on the books with the bribery exportion in all
Speaker 2: those things. That's clear. You got the paper trick. You
Speaker 2: have to this law firm getting the case and Brad
Speaker 2: getting arrested.
Speaker 8: Or charged.
Speaker 2: There's there's no ambiguity there.
Speaker 3: I think we should the sergeant entity case is that.
Speaker 11: He was a new sergeant correct and he was actually
Speaker 11: pulling the lieutenant.
Speaker 3: Job that night, which I've done that before in my career.
Speaker 11: And uh so uh the the U s Attorney that
Speaker 11: prosecuted the case before she became the US attorney, she
Speaker 11: was actually a DA the same area, so he he
Speaker 11: was the case was looked at while she was the
Speaker 11: DA and they weren't well, they weren't going to prosecute
Speaker 11: this case.
Speaker 10: He was exonerated after four years. Sir Rachel Rollins was
Speaker 10: the county DA when Dave was charged at the state
Speaker 10: level and after four years, when exculplatory evidence suddenly appeared
Speaker 10: the day before trial that exonerated Dave. The ADA said
Speaker 10: that he could no longer move forward with the case
Speaker 10: against Dave because there was no crime there. And then
Speaker 10: Rachel Rollins became the US district a journey from Massachusetts and.
Speaker 9: Judged him at the federal level.
Speaker 11: Which I mean, it's just that fact. I mean, it's.
Speaker 8: She should be charged at the federal level. Conspiracies.
Speaker 1: The thing is blatant. M it's about it's blatant as
Speaker 1: he as you can get.
Speaker 2: Unless our government locked these people up. Unfortunately, going to
Speaker 2: continue this stuff is blatant. He just said, one hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty nine million dollars is about to be stolen
Speaker 2: from the citizens of New Mexico.
Speaker 8: And no one cares.
Speaker 6: There's no accountability for criminals here whatsoever.
Speaker 10: Same here, the chief of police for my husband's department
Speaker 10: murdered somebody, and of course that's not in the news.
Speaker 10: They but he kept it quiet. Everyone's like, oh, when
Speaker 10: does this trial. It was hard to find any information,
Speaker 10: so he was able to bury that. But of course
Speaker 10: Dave's stuff is all over the news and he was
Speaker 10: found guilty of murder.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I'm doing anything to do with what's
Speaker 1: her name, dosie, what's her name? I forgot her name?
Speaker 9: Oh, Karen Reiding.
Speaker 10: Yes, Martin Weinberg did Karen Reid's federal appeal, and that
Speaker 10: is who we have.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 10: We have a different lawyer for the appeal than we
Speaker 10: did for trial, so we're very good hands.
Speaker 8: The attorney is representing Oh yes.
Speaker 10: Yes, extended yep, Rob Reiner.
Speaker 1: Not to get off the track where we have a
Speaker 1: renowned uh dog Anglare. That's kind of explain what Chloe
Speaker 1: could have done, you know what I mean? It should
Speaker 1: be very interesting.
Speaker 10: Where is Chloe by the way, Vermont, I believe that
Speaker 10: that was rumor on vacation.
Speaker 9: Yep.
Speaker 1: Jeez.
Speaker 9: It's so frustrating when there are so many.
Speaker 10: You know, there are people who commit crimes and then
Speaker 10: people like Brad and Day who our lives have been.
Speaker 9: Uprooted because of all of this.
Speaker 10: The one good thing through all this is because I've
Speaker 10: become friends with Lacy and and other Pipe Hitter Foundation
Speaker 10: families that I never would have become friends with. So
Speaker 10: it's nice to have people that completely understand.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, can you guys explain Pipe Hitters Force
Speaker 2: for people who don't know, Yeah, you do.
Speaker 10: The Pipe Hitters is started by Andrea and Eddie Gallagher and.
Speaker 9: He was a naval seal I believe, and.
Speaker 10: Was charged with the crime and after his experience, he
Speaker 10: wanted to create an organization where veterans and military and
Speaker 10: police had support so that they weren't going through things alone.
Speaker 9: And they're very supportive, helpful.
Speaker 6: They've been amazing.
Speaker 7: It's really like a big family and they understand what
Speaker 7: we're going through.
Speaker 6: And we could do this without them.
Speaker 1: And without do you know how many people we represent? Now?
Speaker 13: Oh, there's like I know of us to a salvator
Speaker 13: Old Roddy is out of New Jersey, I believe, and
Speaker 13: Mike McMahon.
Speaker 10: He was actually just pardoned by President Trump. His wife
Speaker 10: is Martha Byrne, who's actually on As the World Turns and.
Speaker 9: She has fought really hard for him.
Speaker 10: That they're another family, and I believe that might be
Speaker 10: one other current one.
Speaker 1: There's somebody from Philly, right.
Speaker 9: Ye, Salvator Old Roddy.
Speaker 10: I know, I believe he is from Philly, but he
Speaker 10: was on the I believe New Jersey's.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's that middle one you said, have them on
Speaker 9: the show. His parents, Yeah, they're amazing.
Speaker 12: I think they have six active cases currently that they're supporting,
Speaker 12: at least I'm on the website.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm looking right, he has a right here too.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we have to thank Eddie because you know
Speaker 2: what they put him through, you know, you know, you
Speaker 2: almost you don't say the Lord works in mysterious ways.
Speaker 2: If Eddie doesn't go through what he went through, then
Speaker 2: we may not have the pop pipe hit or foundation,
Speaker 2: you know. And it's nice to have someone who continues
Speaker 2: to fight after they've extricated.
Speaker 8: Themselves from the situation to know what's going on.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Andrea was just she's a warrior and she fought
Speaker 7: from so hard and they both of them did this
Speaker 7: and now it's nice.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: I've had different families reach out to me who are
Speaker 7: kind of in the same situation, and I've been able
Speaker 7: to help them, and so it's it's an ongoing giving
Speaker 7: kind of thing.
Speaker 6: It's been amazing.
Speaker 8: Argument.
Speaker 4: Oh excuse me.
Speaker 12: I would make the argument that it wasn't for the
Speaker 12: women standing by their husbands, uh, in the Eddie's situation
Speaker 12: as well. I've never met the man or had the
Speaker 12: pleasure too, but I think you would agree with me
Speaker 12: that it wasn't for his wife and those that stand
Speaker 12: stood next to him are the strong women in our lives,
Speaker 12: that none of this would be possible and the force
Speaker 12: to be reckoned with.
Speaker 2: He'll be the first to tell you that, because he
Speaker 2: said that a million times. If it's not people for
Speaker 2: like Jen and Lacy and Eddie's white. I forgot her
Speaker 2: name is skate you right now, but I've watched her,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 8: Yes, Okay, thank you, thank you?
Speaker 4: Yes, absolute pitbulls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yes, he's definitely. I don't want to call
Speaker 2: her anything because.
Speaker 8: I don't want to come back.
Speaker 9: When they can't.
Speaker 1: Yes, there are certainly of the engines because the fights.
Speaker 12: One can make the argument that we're not strong enough
Speaker 12: to handle it without our words, right.
Speaker 2: I know I couldn't, you know, I didn't have you know,
Speaker 2: my brim standing next to me. You know, I couldn't
Speaker 2: deal with this nonsense. But turn turn it right, and
Speaker 2: they're gonna be there. You don't know how they get
Speaker 2: near to there, but they're there by your side, and like, like,
Speaker 2: look how long jenn and Lady's been going through this.
Speaker 2: Annie's wife Andrew has been going through this longer than that,
Speaker 2: and she's still there dealing with other people's stuff.
Speaker 8: And that's what we need.
Speaker 2: We need, we need to unify this thing because that's
Speaker 2: what it's gonna take. It's gonna I'm sorry, guys, I
Speaker 2: mean not transgender guys. We're gonna need the women to
Speaker 2: step up to the plate because uh, that's that's who
Speaker 2: raises the the families. We all know it, you know,
Speaker 2: we don't like to admit it, guys, we like to
Speaker 2: be but we know who the real I was about
Speaker 2: to say, Bayer, We know who the real strip is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we expect, we hopefully expect the
Speaker 1: appeals to be done this year twenty twenty six for.
Speaker 10: It, correct, Dave. We're expected or May or June. Is
Speaker 10: what our current timeline is. That we've heard that we
Speaker 10: might be in front of the judges.
Speaker 1: Okay, and with.
Speaker 7: Us, you know, we got the new trial. The judge
Speaker 7: said yes, and the age appealed it. So right now
Speaker 7: it's with the appellate court and we'll be lucky if
Speaker 7: we hear anything in a year.
Speaker 6: And a half. Two years. We don't, We don't know.
Speaker 7: So it's pretty much everything is on pause. Our life
Speaker 7: is on hold again. But if you read through the
Speaker 7: judge's motion for a new trial, I mean, we shouldn't
Speaker 7: even have to have a new trial. He said in
Speaker 7: there that it was justified, completely justified.
Speaker 6: I mean, you really need to read through it.
Speaker 7: It's it's just amazing and it's infuriating that you have
Speaker 7: to go through all this again judge.
Speaker 1: Judge, when a judge as it's justified, I mean, what
Speaker 1: more do you want.
Speaker 12: Judge, boy gave me Raoul Torres an exit strategy, a
Speaker 12: way to say you face, and his ego prevented him
Speaker 12: from doing so. Uh. That was a clear opportunity for
Speaker 12: this case to be dismissed, all charges dropped, and he
Speaker 12: chose to double down and continue this fight even after.
Speaker 12: I mean, when you read through this motion, it's it's
Speaker 12: astonishing what Foy had to say about the evidence, the
Speaker 12: weak evidence, the weak case gets yes.
Speaker 1: That and we believe that is because of the civil
Speaker 1: aspect of things, right.
Speaker 4: It's all monetary.
Speaker 12: Even other attorneys in the local community down there that
Speaker 12: have very close ties decades working with the AG's office
Speaker 12: in New Mexico, they're the ones that shed light on
Speaker 12: all of the money and helped guide us into this investigation.
Speaker 1: Oh, everybody, everybody that you know. As Greg was mentioning,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's several levels there. The hands are getting raased. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the only committed murder was the deceited. That's the only
Speaker 1: person that committed murder. You can call it suicide, you
Speaker 1: can call it whatever the hell you want. But we've
Speaker 1: seen this stuff, and.
Speaker 2: You know, ladies have to go through another two damn
Speaker 2: years of this nonsense.
Speaker 8: With the boys, I mean, they're going.
Speaker 2: To be in college before the star thing is settled,
Speaker 2: so somebody can steal one hundred and twenty nine million dollars.
Speaker 12: In the States appeal, they refer to Ezzie or did
Speaker 12: I say that right?
Speaker 4: Lay? Sometimes they refer to him as a gentleman.
Speaker 12: The verbiage they used, that's a gentleman pulling a knife
Speaker 12: on law enforcement, lying, robbing a convenience store, resisting the rest, fighting,
Speaker 12: arming himself.
Speaker 4: That's a gentleman.
Speaker 8: Knocking an officer unconscious.
Speaker 12: Yeah, knocking officer unconscious, that's a gentleman.
Speaker 4: That's what we're going to call a criminal.
Speaker 1: It was video on video, by the way, exactly.
Speaker 6: At the last hearing.
Speaker 7: Once again I got called out for bad mouthing the criminal.
Speaker 7: And I don't think they really they realized that I'm
Speaker 7: telling the truth.
Speaker 6: I've been telling the truth this whole time. Just because
Speaker 6: you don't like the truth.
Speaker 7: Doesn't make it a lie. I'm not bad moulting anyone.
Speaker 7: I've been putting the truth out there and I will
Speaker 7: continue to do so.
Speaker 6: It's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 8: Have you to have you definitely does that outide? Follow
Speaker 8: on Twitter?
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you too noticed Jennifer Anilcia, have you noticed
Speaker 1: the news?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 1: It was a little bit more understanding of what's going on.
Speaker 2: Or not.
Speaker 6: Somewhat like it was.
Speaker 7: We had support from one of our one of my friends.
Speaker 7: She's not my friends, she doesn't work for the news
Speaker 7: station anymore, and we you know, she was the only
Speaker 7: one willing to tell our side of the story. But
Speaker 7: everyone else they just kind of brush it off. You know,
Speaker 7: when it first came out, it was, oh, white cops
Speaker 7: shoots shoots an armed black man. It was it's been
Speaker 7: like that, you know.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 10: Yeah, same here that we know news stations it was
Speaker 10: all they even have got it wrong when Dave was
Speaker 10: sent in say so that he pled guilty, but he
Speaker 10: never pled guilty, and that really bothered me. It was
Speaker 10: like in the article and it was like, you know,
Speaker 10: it's over, like that part's over, like not, They're just
Speaker 10: gonna write what they want to write to get the views.
Speaker 2: It's like Greg said, Greg said, he's been that Operation
Speaker 2: Broom person. You know, it's amazing that they gets charged.
Speaker 8: He wasn't even there. He's not even there.
Speaker 3: I gotta say one thing is that people like say
Speaker 3: words that they don't understand. But Boston metro trendsit. I
Speaker 3: can't even imagine what a night as a death sergeant
Speaker 3: would be. Oh my god.
Speaker 10: In the trial they wanted we tried to stop it,
Speaker 10: but they used Dave's prior use of force reports and
Speaker 10: they would not allow one of Bartlett's reports that we
Speaker 10: wanted to introduce. They were trying to set the stage like, oh,
Speaker 10: Dave knows how to use write a use of force report,
Speaker 10: he knows the words to use, and actually reading the
Speaker 10: appeal had to reminded me like the Dave's charge was
Speaker 10: not even a use of force report. It wasn't arrest report.
Speaker 10: And I mean, if you're a good officer, you should
Speaker 10: know how to fright reports. But they were trying to
Speaker 10: use Dave's prior use to force reports from a lengthy
Speaker 10: career in Boston that he was a heavy handed officer,
Speaker 10: is what they were trying to get the jurors to see.
Speaker 10: And they were even allowed to see the baton that
Speaker 10: Bartlett used on the homeless individual. But we tried to
Speaker 10: get Bartlett's one report, which was a very similar case
Speaker 10: that had the same language as the language from this
Speaker 10: report and they didn't allow it. Wow, So they use
Speaker 10: the opposite argument like we're gonna use it because he
Speaker 10: knows how to write a report, but they wouldn't use
Speaker 10: it here because then it was pre judicial that you know,
Speaker 10: they would paint Bartlett in a bad light.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing how their case so strong, but they
Speaker 2: have to hide stuff. And it's the same argument that
Speaker 2: you say, oh, it's the white cop on the black guy,
Speaker 2: or it's he's heavy handed. It's the same terminology you
Speaker 2: find out with all this nazis, Well, if you're in
Speaker 2: a certain area, doing certain type of law enforcement activity
Speaker 2: over a certain period of time, and you don't be
Speaker 2: heavy handed. The only other thing is you're very fast
Speaker 2: running in the opposite direction. So it can't be both.
Speaker 2: It's just not allowed. You got to take the back guy,
Speaker 2: it was a recent or the back like Macy, Brad
Speaker 2: did everything he could and Greg said this a thousand times.
Speaker 2: He did everything he could to you know, the force
Speaker 2: continuum as we call it in law enforcement, right, you know,
Speaker 2: he took it. He went above beyond that, you know,
Speaker 2: and they still a wrestling in Dave's case.
Speaker 8: He's trying to he's telling the damn truth. You got
Speaker 8: the liar, So is that what they do?
Speaker 2: They say, Okay, we're going to give the liar immunity
Speaker 2: and we're going to prosecute the truth guy. We're going
Speaker 2: to give the guys who tried to save this guy's
Speaker 2: life and charge it with murder.
Speaker 8: This is ridiculous. Like Allison Wonderland.
Speaker 10: And Dave didn't even know about the second use of
Speaker 10: force that actually happened in the in the booking area,
Speaker 10: So Dave didn't even know about that for another year
Speaker 10: until we got the video. He was just told that
Speaker 10: we better get out there by the monitor room officer,
Speaker 10: but never has said that Bartlett was had his hand
Speaker 10: up on Watson's throat, So none of that was mentioned
Speaker 10: to Dave until Dave sorry, when we were going through evidence.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you one thing, though, I love having ladies
Speaker 2: like you two on here because we got to continue
Speaker 2: to get this message out. And we know in this
Speaker 2: thing that Dave right now and Brad right now are
Speaker 2: very limited because of what's going on and what they
Speaker 2: can say. So we need you guys voices to continue
Speaker 2: to come on here to let people know what's going on.
Speaker 1: This is the kind of stuffs in New Mexico and Boston.
Speaker 1: Why don't you get off your eyes and tell us
Speaker 1: what really, what really happened.
Speaker 7: And it's been amazing the support we've had, not only
Speaker 7: from here and Crusis.
Speaker 6: You know, the community here has been great, but.
Speaker 7: We've had people from Albuquerque all over New Mexico just
Speaker 7: reach out and show their support to us, you know,
Speaker 7: because they know this is wrong and they're tired of
Speaker 7: living in this.
Speaker 6: We're the most dangerous state in the country. They're tired
Speaker 6: of it.
Speaker 7: They want to start holding these criminals accountable and you know,
Speaker 7: letting our.
Speaker 6: Police officers do their job.
Speaker 7: But of course you have the judges who let them
Speaker 7: go thirty minutes after they're brought in. So I think
Speaker 7: people here are really ready for a change, and hopefully
Speaker 7: it'll they'll come sooner than later.
Speaker 2: We have to review remove these immunities on these judges
Speaker 2: and prosecutors. It has to go, and I'm tired of
Speaker 2: giving them certain terms like activist judges. If you let
Speaker 2: a convicted murderer out of jail, or someone who just
Speaker 2: did this or illegally locked up an officer you're not
Speaker 2: an activist judge, you're a criminal, and you've got to
Speaker 2: remove these immunities and prosecute them criminally and also allow
Speaker 2: you guys, when it's all said and done, to sue
Speaker 2: them civilly. It has to change, and we need our
Speaker 2: Congress to get off their but and remove these immunities
Speaker 2: and write these laws so that when these quote unquote
Speaker 2: activist judges do what they do in these prosecutors break
Speaker 2: the law, they know that it could be accountability down
Speaker 2: the road because of it. As it currently stands, they're
Speaker 2: going to continue to do this and hot evidence, hot witnesses, illegally.
Speaker 8: Lock up cops.
Speaker 2: They're going to continue to do this until there's a
Speaker 2: repercussion for their action.
Speaker 10: Yeah, the judges are afraid, I think to act on
Speaker 10: police cases. I at least you said that your judge
Speaker 10: cleared Dave basically in his motion, our motion to dismiss
Speaker 10: the charges.
Speaker 9: Oh no, it was sorry, it was an emotion to
Speaker 9: set aside the verdict.
Speaker 10: And our judge wrote a thirty eight page response to that,
Speaker 10: which is unheard of I have heard, and he basically
Speaker 10: said that like Dave didn't commit a crime, that it
Speaker 10: was his inexperience because he was a new sergeant and
Speaker 10: only that was the second time I believe he had
Speaker 10: ever done the desk, and he basically didn't want.
Speaker 9: To set aside the verdict.
Speaker 10: He said, it is usually a cut and dry it's
Speaker 10: common to have motions to set aside the verdict, but
Speaker 10: it's also common for them to be denied. And he
Speaker 10: said this was a very difficult decision for him, but
Speaker 10: he was afraid of public outcry. And because it was
Speaker 10: a police case is what we got from that. Those
Speaker 10: weren't his exact words, but because it was a police
Speaker 10: use of force case, even though Dave was not the
Speaker 10: officer using the force, wasn't there there was evidence that
Speaker 10: the jury could have used to find him not guilty
Speaker 10: of all charges, which then he should have I believe
Speaker 10: legally over time to the verdict.
Speaker 9: So hopefully the appeal judges it's just based on.
Speaker 2: Law.
Speaker 10: It's three judges and the lawyers only have fifteen to
Speaker 10: twenty minutes I think, or maybe it's only like twelve
Speaker 10: to fifteen. It's a short amount of time to give
Speaker 10: their case. That's why the brief is so detailed, so
Speaker 10: that they can't get out.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: This is what I've noticed with these cape of cases though,
Speaker 2: with these prosecutes. If you want to call them that,
Speaker 2: if you do win on a pill instead of them
Speaker 2: walking away, do you think they will uppheal that decision
Speaker 2: to the Supreme court of your state.
Speaker 10: We're hoping everything is overturned and goes our way.
Speaker 8: I don't see how it got this started for how
Speaker 8: many don't, but it seems like.
Speaker 2: From what I see here in Philadelphia, these prosecutors don't
Speaker 2: give up.
Speaker 8: They keep taking the cop to the next level.
Speaker 2: And luckily you guys have pipe hitters supporting you guys
Speaker 2: and other people because besides the middle tool, it takes
Speaker 2: on your family, the financial tool that could possibly be
Speaker 2: out there that they don't care about.
Speaker 10: That im Yeah, Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund is another
Speaker 10: big organization that is so helpful. You have to actually
Speaker 10: in order to be accepted into these foundations. There's a
Speaker 10: board application process that it's not just like, oh, we
Speaker 10: pick you, and if we're a board to unanimously say yes,
Speaker 10: you know we want to support you, says a lot
Speaker 10: that you know, they see the holes in the cases.
Speaker 7: So they're they're supporting us to you and they have
Speaker 7: been pretty fundamental in our new h our new lawyer.
Speaker 7: You know, he's bringing his whole team on his a
Speaker 7: law firm, and they are just they're amazing.
Speaker 6: It's they're going to.
Speaker 1: Take the law. We should give a shout out to
Speaker 1: law firms.
Speaker 6: Matt Chandler.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's one in New Mexico.
Speaker 9: That's Chandler from Martin Weinberg.
Speaker 1: Weineberg Chandler right near you, New Mexico.
Speaker 6: And he's actually out of love it Texas.
Speaker 7: He does a lot of like the cleat stuff up there,
Speaker 7: but he's dual license in New Mexico.
Speaker 1: Too, So good, good, good, Well, we're almost running out
Speaker 1: of time, and you guys have anything to say? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's been a hell of a twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: We look forward to twenty twenty six where both both
Speaker 1: of you see success with your appeals. Do you have
Speaker 1: anything you want to say? Matt, Matthew, we have a question.
Speaker 1: Are those brigit Virginia calves?
Speaker 4: Yes, they're Virginia cows.
Speaker 12: And unfortunately, our new attorney general here likes to talk
Speaker 12: about killing women and children, so and.
Speaker 4: How he wishes that on people.
Speaker 12: So the state of Virginia is gonna go down the
Speaker 12: toilet worse than it already is. But one of the things,
Speaker 12: one of the points I would really like to keep
Speaker 12: in the forefront for twenty twenty six is we have
Speaker 12: to keep the momentum up. We have to keep coming
Speaker 12: on doing podcasts, we have to keep getting the message
Speaker 12: out to the community.
Speaker 4: And we can't let this these topics.
Speaker 12: These issues, and these these members of our community languish
Speaker 12: and fall by the wayside, because if we don't keep
Speaker 12: it in the forefront of the public, they're going to
Speaker 12: be forgotten about.
Speaker 4: And the support will slowly erode.
Speaker 12: And that's my biggest fear, is that we have to
Speaker 12: keep the momentum and the pre pressure on these attorney
Speaker 12: generals and on air judges and hold folks accountable whether
Speaker 12: they like it or not. I see here in one
Speaker 12: of these motions that I was brought up and false,
Speaker 12: false information and it was amusing to read, but that
Speaker 12: I appreciate this opportunity for all of us. But moving
Speaker 12: into twenty twenty six, let's let's double down on it.
Speaker 1: I hear that, well, we definitely want to have you
Speaker 1: guys pack as a Chris forward particularly, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the local news and the national news should report it
Speaker 1: should be reporting on us. This is a you know,
Speaker 1: this is a moral corpus kind of thing. You know,
Speaker 1: it went off the rails. You know it's blatantly in corrected.
Speaker 1: You have an opportunity to correct it in the news. Now,
Speaker 1: why don't you do that?
Speaker 9: You know mainstream media doesn't want to.
Speaker 1: No local news. You really have to step up and
Speaker 1: explain what the problem is. It's playton right in front
Speaker 1: of your face, right in.
Speaker 8: Front of your face.
Speaker 7: I just want to say thank you so much for
Speaker 7: having us on it and for your continued support. You
Speaker 7: guys are the best. I love coming on here and
Speaker 7: just just thank you from us. And we have a long,
Speaker 7: long fight ahead of us, so we look too. We
Speaker 7: look forward to to seeing you guys a lot.
Speaker 9: More, me too.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll have good news to report at the end. Right.
Speaker 10: I enjoyed being on as well and appreciate you being
Speaker 10: willing to get our stories out there like a major
Speaker 10: media doesn't want to do.
Speaker 1: What we really want to do is be able to
Speaker 1: have your husbands on to tell us what the hell
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 9: I think Dave looks forward to that opportunity here.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sure Brad do just here my resolutions, well
Speaker 1: as far as just cause I got a bunch of them, like.
Speaker 8: My resolutions.
Speaker 2: I hope the next time you guys go on, which
Speaker 2: is the early January, those guys decided to just let
Speaker 2: all us go away and withdraw everything because they know
Speaker 2: they wrong. Man, that's what I want to see early
Speaker 2: in the new year, long shot.
Speaker 8: But that's what I wanted.
Speaker 1: We want to And what's the name.
Speaker 8: I don't even care if Raul going to jail, even
Speaker 8: though I believe that's what he deserves. Yeah, with joy everything.
Speaker 2: Let these families go on with their last Let Brad
Speaker 2: and Dave going with their life with their family and
Speaker 2: enjoy next Christmas.
Speaker 8: And you know, even though they are Brady fans over
Speaker 8: there in Boston.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was nice to have like sentencing.
Speaker 10: We weren't sure if they was even going to be
Speaker 10: home or for Christmas. And you know, I was prepared,
Speaker 10: do I need to like go shopping in September for
Speaker 10: Christmas so that he could be a part of it.
Speaker 9: So it was nice to have him home. Yeah, no,
Speaker 9: that he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: It's perfect, Okay, Well, hopefully that local has enough. You know,
Speaker 1: it's to report the truth as as opposed to continuing to.
Speaker 8: Reports and very quickly.
Speaker 2: If you guys want to reach out to the trooper
Speaker 2: in Jersey and they want to come on and feel
Speaker 2: free to you know, let him talk to John.
Speaker 10: I'm intact with Barbara old Roddy Savage, his mom, so
Speaker 10: I know I know she would love to do.
Speaker 9: That's doing it.
Speaker 1: Well, guys. We appreciate you taking the time. Please give
Speaker 1: Sergeant Dave and Officer brad our best. We have to
Speaker 1: have them on, you know, as a success.
Speaker 9: You might need a longer show for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, scial, yeah exactly. I can break
Speaker 1: that all the time. Okay, all right, anybody else any well,
Speaker 1: wishes for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 9: Any year, Happy new Year, Happy New.
Speaker 4: Year, Happy everyone, Happy new year.
Speaker 1: Guys. Okay, thank you very much, thank you.
Speaker 8: Take care, guys.
Speaker 12: You