Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of The Chicks on the Right Podcast.
Speaker 2: Very excited. It's great to have Amy.
Speaker 1: Kozak, comedian musician host of the AMI's House podcast, back
with us to Talking All Things podcast to Stan with us.
Speaker 2: You have been.
Speaker 1: Killing it, killing it with your videos mocking all the
folks who have completely fallen off of the sanity train,
and the Candace, Megan and Tucker videos.
Speaker 2: Are by far our favorite.
Speaker 1: So you recently did a video where you were Candace
post Russia visit and like you had the Russian subtitles
in it, and I was like, how did you?
Speaker 3: I literally asked.
Speaker 1: Grok if it was real, because I was you sounded
so Russian?
Speaker 2: How did you do that?
Speaker 3: And what did the good olks say?
Speaker 1: So? Grok said that there were some some actual Russian
words in there, but that it was all just sort
of jumbled like nonsensical phrases in between.
Speaker 2: And I was like, that's amazing, That's.
Speaker 3: Exactly how Candace would speak Russian.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you learn how to speak Russian by watching
Rocky For No?
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't speak Russian at all. I imitate languages,
I don't speak something.
Speaker 2: Why it's so incredible it's so incredible.
Speaker 3: So thank you, thank you for the kind words. Yeah,
I've been killing it. Some people call it a genocide.
Actually totally. It's disgusting, but you know, doing what I can.
We usually give Scott gave us.
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, it's just getting weirder and weirder, isn't it?
Speaker 3: On me?
Speaker 4: Like it's like we we used to really love Megan
Kelly like it was. It's just she's been kind of
a disappointment.
Speaker 3: I say, that's an understatement, and it is an understatement, right,
even if she had no integrity at all, which it
doesn't seem like she does. I don't understand the pragmatic,
practical motivations going on there, Like let's watching candaez Owen's
conduct and behavior. It's like, let's die on that hill,
going off the rails on the Candics train. You really
want to do that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: If if she was purely self interested in self preservation
and audience and all that, then why why why why
would you do that? I just I don't. I can't
really make sense of it other than she's really purely
motivated by you know, clout, audience and personal offense. You know,
so some people it's their ego is just so massive
that if you slightly offend it, it's funny because under
the guise of you know, not caring about her critics,
the one thing that made her completely do a one
to eighty on her entire worldview is a friendly critic
in Ben Shapiro.
Speaker 1: So this is what I was going to ask you,
is like, what I mean, like, what do you make
of the transformation of people like Tucker and Meghan? Like,
because you know, there's all kinds of people who are
going to speculate, Oh, it's Katari money, or it's it's money,
you know, just plain money, or it's clicks and attention.
Do you think it's just some combination of both or
because to me it's like it makes no sense how
they've done this complete one eighty.
Speaker 3: I think it's different for different people. So I think
it would be it would be unwise to have no
discernment in just saying it's all one thing, depending on
the the actors involved, you know, for Tucker, take someone
like Candae. I think for her it's it's pure provocation
and self aggrandizement. The game is to be as famous
as possible and whatever means I can do that whether
it's costplaying a conservative for a few years to build
that audience, it's really just being a kind of cultural parasite,
latching onto various movements that are edgy and cool at
the time until there's too much consensus around set movement,
and then you provoke and go the other way and
pivot in in order to keep up that brand of
being that firebrand who goes against the grain. But forget
what the grain is. It doesn't matter. As long as
I'm going against it, I can maintain my you know,
brand as some brave truth teller while you know, not
be rooted in anything true. It's just about what's what
what gets a reaction, you know, I guarantee you if Kennis,
you know, said, if Candace went off on the Jews
and like no one reacted like crickets, she'd probably stopped
talking about it. So I think it's as anti semitic
as her conduct has been in the language and the
ideas and the stuff that she's put out there. The ideas,
I think it's all, you know, first and foremost, to
serve as an as a grift, as a way to
build an audience to you know, you know, uh, maintain
that sort of relevance. I think that's what it is,
that using that using that subject. The same thing with
Brigitia mccron. She admitted to Tim Dillon in an episode
that you know, you know why I kept going on
bergit because like we did this episode and I was
just going to do one episode on it, but then
it got such a reaction, right, So like she's she's
admitted it without even realizing it. There's a lot of
proximity minds she's put around herself in like a minefield
of her own inconsistencies, and the one thread that's consistent
is like, you know, the the Gateway drug. You constantly
need that dopamine. So she's just continuing to get more
and more extreme. First, it's I have qu questions maybe
about you know, Zionism, the War, BB, Francis Jews, Holocausts,
Charlie Erica Kirk, time travel, astral projection. So I say
keep going, Greaz, the Bees, the BB's the bebes. Okay,
I say, I say keep going, girlfriend, because every every
way that you you know, step into absurdity just invalidates
the world and the talking points you've built all this
up on. So it's not really just about Jews or
Israel or anything like that. Don't take it for me.
Look at what's become of you and what's become of
your audience. It's a bunch of you know, you know,
mommy sleuths who like watching a soap opera. You know,
they're not interested in some you know, like truth. Now,
in Tucker's case, he's much more shrewd, much more experienced
in media, much more savvy. And his whole game is,
you know, being a creature of confusion. So you'll never
hear him say I hate the Jews, or you'll never
hear him say things explicit. It's all implicit. It's all
the things he avoids or doesn't say, or glazes over,
says one thing to one person and another thing to
another person, So he creates a demoralization and confusion. I
think there's a political motivation there. It's not money. All
these people have money. I think at a certain point,
money is not that persuasive or motivating, but influence impact,
and having a lot of money doesn't mean you have
a lot of impact or influence. So there's like you know,
political power. There's wealth and money, and then there's influence.
And I think a lot of this is the influence game.
In Tucker's case, it seems like it's more political as
a project to sort of replace and demoralize the base
that has been sort of the standard in America for
so long, which is the evangelical, you know, Christian base
in the United States, which is largely very pro American,
pro Israel, very Zionist. And if I can demoralize the
young people against that and replace it with a social
conservatism and an economic leftism populism, I can form a
new coalition. And first I have to get rid of
those power structures, which is why Ted Cruz is much
more disgusting than Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 4: I mean, discustoming obvious.
Speaker 3: So it leads you to kind of look at these figures.
There's nothing worse. I mean, isis, yeah, maybe they'd behead
people on camera, but the neo cons who they're great.
Speaker 1: Seemed like more of a political organization really, So.
Speaker 3: He specializes in taking normative behavior and portraying it as demonic,
and taking demonic terroristic behavior and portraying it as normative.
So it's this confusion game, and Megan is just a
coward caught in the middle. She wants to try to
under the guise of being brave and taking a stance,
she's actually just being a coward because she's afraid to
lose audience. She's been burned too many times. She went
up against Trump in twenty sixteen. There was blood coming
out of her everywhere. I remember that, and she she
lost that battle. And then she went more mainstream on
network television, and so I decided to have a bunch
of trans kids on the show and say how great
it was, and then apologize for some joke about race
and got burned. She then who came to her rescue
was Ben Shapiro, as she admitted, and built herself back up.
So I think she's been burned so many times in
not really assessing what she feels is true, but what
she thinks the audience and the waves and the winds
are blowing and tries to follow it and has been
burned so many times. So she's desperately trying to do
that again, and so she's letting that audience determine it.
And I think for certain people in this space, generally
on the conservative side, you know, I'll finish here like
they spent so long fighting pressure coming from one direction exclusively,
and that was the left. Cancel culture. Don't talk about
certain subjects, You're a racist, no matter what. So when
they sense pressure now in the other direction, even though
I think it's valid, they're so against cancel culture that
they forgotten what it means to have standards or judgment
or any of those things, and that when they get
pressure or criticism from their own side, which I think
is actually legitimate, they can't interpret those signals properly. They're like, no, no,
that's pressure. Now I'm going to invite Tucker to ampest again.
Now we're gonna have him, because that's just what we do.
If you tell me not to support something, I'm gonna
support it even more. And if you tell me to
support something, I'm gonna not support it more. That's not
how adults come to decisions.
Speaker 4: On I see. I see a lot of people say,
you're trying to silence her. You're trying We're not trying
to silence anybody. She's just acting like a whack adoodle.
So you know, we're just going to call it out.
We're not trying to silence anybody. Although I do I
do worry about younger people and their influence is influential
amy and so they I mean, these people do have influence.
But then we've talked to other people that say, nah,
I don't think they have that much influence. I think
it's going to be fine. People don't live online, you know,
people live in the real world. And then at the
same time, I'm like, yikes, I do worry about the
next elections, you know, coming up. I worry about people
being influenced by this woke Reich whatever they want to
woke rite, whatever they want to call themselves, because they've
I feel like a lot of it has to do
with the fact that they are being hijacked by Islam too,
you know, like Islam sees them as useful idiots for
what they want to do. There's so many different facets
to this. But the young people that we.
Speaker 3: Have, that's a lot of viewers. Islam is a lot
of viewers. According to Megan Kailey, if you know when
once you realize how man, yes, that are Islamic, that's
a lot of viewers. So you have to think about that.
It's hard to say in terms of Internet versus real life.
It is hard to know. On the one hand, to
go out touch grass. Most of the country is like rational,
reasonable people who just want attend to their families, and
they're largely pro Western pro Israel. If you ask them,
even if it's not a front and center issue, they
would obviously look at the situation and go, oh yeah,
fighting against radical Gihatis that want to destroy a free country.
I side with the free country. Even when they pulled Amfest,
I think people still came out, you know. So there's
a little bit of a warped sense of what's real
and what's not. But at the same time, it doesn't
It only takes a concentrated minority of people with nefarious
intentions to really change things. What I think is where
people are asleep at the wheel is while all this
demoralization and fracturing and infighting is going on on the right,
the left is focused politically and they're just going to
swoop in. I'm not as worried as much about where JD.
Vance stands in the next election as AOC and Gavin
Newsom coming in and saying hey, for years they care
catured the right as Nazis, and now all they have
to do is point to a bunch of interviews and
a bunch of followings and say look Nazis, and this
time they're not wrong, and they have worse policies and
worse ideas than any that you know, then what we
have if it became victorious over in the like woke
left exis that was burst in twenty twenty four. We
lose all those political and cultural victories because of all
this nonsense of people not standing on principle and all
they have to do. Now it's like to be handing
them victories on a silver platter because they could just
point to what happens in right wing victory. I mean,
if this is what happens in right wing victory, are
you kidding me? So it hands so like this whole
unite the right to fight the left. I'm like, no,
you can't unite with people who seek to divide you
and hand the victory a left on a silver platter.
So that's what I would keep your eyes open about,
because with all the infighting, it's not who will replace
Trump from the right and who will like you know,
continue maga, it's uh what's going on on the left
as they're being awfully quiet letting this all happen all
of the suidme.
Speaker 4: So it's interesting you talk about uniting the right. We
talked about this this morning with Platner. They will, they
will on the left literally unite just to rally for
an actual Nazi. They will do that, and they'll do it,
and they'll be like, it's fine because they always rally.
We are I think the opposite. We're starting to see
a huge fragment, like a separation of the weird way
of standards. Yeah, and so I do think it will
affect the elections. I believe that. I don't know. Maybe
it's because we do live online and we are doing that,
we do this for a living. But I do think
it will affect us. And you know what, I'm not
going to unite with freaking Nazis.
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. Yeah, yeah, because and to what end?
Speaker 1: Like what is the I mean, surely when Tucker, when Meghan,
when Canada, when they do these things, when they are
so divisive, you would think that they would have the
foresight to recognize how that could impact elections, and they
just don't.
Speaker 4: They just keep plowing ahead. Or maybe they don't care. Amazing,
Maybe they just don't care. Because Candas has said, I
don't care.
Speaker 3: Not kids.
Speaker 2: You know, it's crazy to.
Speaker 3: Me Yeah, no again. You know, I think when it
comes to political I don't think it's principles that really
motivate them. It's the audience and the influence. So even
in a left wing victory, that's when people can if
you're like a Tucker, you can position yourself as the
new alternative. Then the whole old way of MAGA that
that that movement failed. You look at what we got.
I mean there's all this kind of opportunism and if
you're if you benefit from that, I don't think, you know,
it's it's tricky like that they're not thinking about those things.
You you would assume people do care a little bit
about the actual well being of a country politically, kids
and grandkids. Right, So it is, you know, I don't
you know, you know, can't diagnose from afar. It's baffling,
it honestly is. And it was since October eighth, you know,
it was baffling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I always you know, one of the things
that we say on our show a lot is you know,
the like the Islam creed. Because I live in Texas,
I'm seeing it happen here where there's creed coming in
in New Jersey.
Speaker 2: We just saw that guy.
Speaker 4: What that's advancing, that is he's a Muslim. That is
just he has some some sketchy ties. You know, there's
just a lot of that we're seeing across the country.
We can look at the UK and say, Okay, we
can see what's happening over there. We think it's horrible,
and then we're not doing anything about it here, like
we're just we're letting it happen. We're letting these people
come in and like, you know, take over. And the
worst part about it is the right. A lot of
the so called former conservatives. I don't really even think
some of these people were ever conservative, because if you were,
you wouldn't be doing this. But the so called conservative
influencers pundits are like, oh no, this is great, this
is fine. And when Max says to what end? I
wonder that too, because you know they've got wives, they've
got daughters.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that?
Speaker 4: I mean, from a there's so many different levels of this,
Like the left will try to usher this stuff in
and then I'm like, but you're feminists, so you're at
least you say you're feminists, So how can you be
on the side of this when you claim to be
on the side of women, on the side of human rights,
on the side of a separation of church and state,
you know those sorts of things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there's twofferent there's a couple of different things
to dissect. The Red Green alliance, in other words, the
like sort of Islamists and left wing alliance is simply
a matter of like expediency because they have a common enemy.
Both of them have nothing in common values wise, except
their disdain for the West and Western geminy and free societies.
To that to the left of free society is exploitative,
is capitalistic, it's the patriarchy, you know. So they hate
all that stuff. And it's like there's the Marxist influence
on the campuses that's also been funded by the Qataris
and other things over the years. They hate the West
and they want to see it, you know, destroyed. There's
a revolutionary spirit that animates all of it. And it's
the same thing that happened in Iran in the seventies.
You had the intellectuals, the academics in colleges and universities
that welcomed the revolution they wanted. So it's the same
thing happening. That's where that alliance comes. It's like we
if both think America are evil, it doesn't matter that
these people would gladly throw me off a roof because
I'm a feminist or gay. It's like, well, the greatest
evil in the world. The only reason these people are
even radical to begin with is because of Western imperialism
that has radicalized these people. So to them' that's the
ultimate evil. And in fact, even the libertarian like cohort
of this like agrees with that in a narrow sense,
that America and the West and our imperialism and wars overseas,
that's what radicalizes all these other populations. They are only
reactions to us, rather than the other way around, as
if our wars and getting involved over sis are actual
reactions to their radicalism. They don't see it that way. Now.
The other side is certainly more confusing. Why would I'm
the right, people who are supposed to be pro Western,
pro military, pro liberty side with these things. I think
that comes from this sort of reevaluating, a reevaluation that's
been going on on the right, especially in the more
like Christian nationalist circles, that sees sort of the failure
of liberalism of and I mean liberalism in the classical sense,
like of American classical liberalism. They look at it like,
you know, we tried the whole free society thing and
it led to multiculture, multiculturalism and wokeness and open borders
and immigration, and it destroyed our societies. And you know what,
if I have a choice between you know, woke leftism,
which is the worst, I'm as anti left as it gets,
versus like a more stable, more religious society, even if
it means less secular, less freedoms that the West would grant, like,
I choose that because we need to. So this is
an emergency, pull the ripcord. We got to get our
families back to church. And they blame the left wing
jew archetype for those problems. So anti Semitism finds its
way conveniently to be the to be the jew is
the is the convenience scapegode for all of it. But
look at it like, and I cross paths with a
few of these types, and they're just like, listen, at
the end of the day, it's an emergency. You know,
free speech, freedom, religion, separation of church and state, all
those things got to go out the window. We got it.
This is an emergency. Our society's about to collapse. And
so they see the stability of the Islamic world. They
see like, well, you know, the UAE and Saudi Arabia,
and they see Tucker Carlson's talking points. I want a
country that praise and bows five times a day, right,
I want to do attend. I want to bow and
bend over for the Qataris. I want to bend over
for them. That's what I want to do. It's looped
up and running for business. So they almost look at
it the like, you know what I and then they see, oh,
you know, just like Meghan's doing. Maybe my views about
Islam have nothing to do with nine to eleven or
all the radical fundamentalist terrorist actions that have been or
Charlie Hebdo or all these things. Maybe it's it's the
Israel lobby that's made me feel this way because they've
been brain rotted to believe that there's this global you know,
cabal of Jews and eight pak that has convinced them
that suicide bombs going into cafes, or people assassinating and
murdering cartoonists.
Speaker 4: Bad you know, the APAC thing has become like that.
We talked about this this morning. Is it's become the
new racism they screen it's so intellectually lazy everything all
over our socials. It's are you guys funded by apac
apack this apec oh my, if I see that one
more time, or if I had a nickel for every
time I saw it, it's just it's it's just out
of control. It's like it doesn't make any sense. And
I don't understand why they would think that it would
be stability that they would be giving us, when in fact,
you know, at the end of the day they'll come
for Christians too.
Speaker 3: But this is the Jordan the Jordan Peterson thing is
there's a fine line between order and chaos. You know,
it's like chao order and chaos, right, So what they're
seeing is a world that became much too chaotic under
left wing authoritarianism, under the wokeness that we lived through
through the Obama years in Biden, and you know where
gender as a was thrown out the window, like it
was so chaotic that they're looking forced to ability and
there's nothing more stable than order, and there's nothing more
orderly than some of the Islamic societies where boy oh boy,
is it orderly. And so there's a fine line. And
I think that's why you're seeing some of this sort
of you know, looking the other way, turning a blind
eye to those excesses, you know, from certain people, because
they attribute first of all the woke left excess chaos
to Jews in a weird way, and they and Israel
and you know, if you're if you're on that side.
So the left, I can understand, because they just want
to destroy it all anyway. They hate America. But the
people who claim to love America says, I need America
needs its stability, It needs to return to things. And
rather than look inward at themselves, they always have to externalize.
That's the big game. That's why it's worked on both
ends because rather than say, okay, what can you do
in your house in your community, to go back to church,
build a family, get married, have kids, No, no, we
have to we you know, the left wing is revolutionary
and the right right wing is reactionary. So rather than
you know, looking internally and figuring out what they can
do for themselves and looking at the Jews for example,
for you know, emulate rather than you know, has a
source of bitterness or envy or grievance, but they played
the same game. It's just different flavors temperamentally. You know,
you're so right.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you one more thing about Candace
because I remember it's like one of my favorite Ami
moments actually is when you were on her show.
Speaker 3: This was months ago.
Speaker 1: It feels like, and correct me if I'm wrong, but
it feels like you were on with her right when
she was starting to go like down the rabbit hole
of anti Semitism.
Speaker 2: She wasn't like full blown Jew hater then she but
she was on her way.
Speaker 3: And one of the things it was like the hiv
aids of anti semitism didn't She didn't have full blown
anti semitism immune deficiency syndrome.
Speaker 4: It was just HILP.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was starting to become set diagnosed this positive.
You know, she took yes.
Speaker 1: Exactly, but you humiliated her because you had this moment
where you explained to her that there are not, in
fact Muslim quarters in Israel, because she was convinced she
was in like a neighborhood where that's the only place
they were allowed to be, and you were like, no,
they just have neighborhoods. Kind of like they have Chinatown
in big cities across the US. It's fine, and it's
not the way that you're positioning it at all. So
my guess is, and this is what I want to
confirm with you that you have not been invited back.
But I'm just curious if you have had any conversations
with her since.
Speaker 3: Oh, we had lunch yesterday and it was great.
Speaker 2: You were in Russia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, and it was strictly falal, so we
had exact Yeah, we ate it with our hands, all right,
you guys make a brofa. No. Actually, no, the truth
was that was the first time I was on and
she was on the Daily Wire platform at the time,
and she kind of admitted in that conversation that she's
like maybe I got it wrong, like she said, like
a few sentences. Let on, people clip that part up
and it's true. But all I did was like, look
at the time, I gave her the benefit of the
doubt where I said, you know, maybe you were on
some tour in Israel, and some Israeli tour guide was like,
oh this I'll be leaving. This is what the Muslim
have to be. This is where the Muslim have to
be you know, who knows. But at the end of
the day, she sort of admitted she may have gotten
it wrong. I told her, if you came to the
United States and you went to an inner city, would
you say this is where you know? And it was
a predominantly black neighbor and she's like, this is where
the black people have to live. And I think she
misunderstood quarter and quarters. So she was just ignorant and wrong.
And at the time I deferred to saying, Okay, ignorance
is different than hate. I'll attribute it to being you know,
maybe you're just very ignorant on this, which you clearly are,
and you know that's kind of forgivable because ignorance is correctable,
like you can you can become less ignorant if you're
open to it. And then I went on a year later,
maybe a couple months later. Yeah, and that's when I
debated Dave Smith. I debated Dave Smith on that episode,
and then we had a follow up conversation sort of
to button things up, which what I thought, button things up,
and you know, it's it got a little more contentious
because I started to notice a lot of the manipulative
behavior that was going on in real time and you
know things like you know, she was like, so Kanye
said he was going deaf country on some Jewish people.
So he's going deaf f count three on some Jewish people.
Like that's what he said. And I'm like, he didn't
say some. You just keep inserting the words some rather
conveniently to make it like specific rather than general interesting.
And there was another moment there where she kept saying
how he's been canceled, he's been destroyed, he's been this,
and I was like, I don't know. He did he
release an album recently? He actually went to number one.
I'm like, so he's not doing that badly, you know,
So you just disproved yourself. And at the end of
that conversation it still kind of ended rather civilly, and
and then that episode aired, and then like the next
day after, I appealed tried to appeal to her humanity
and said something to the effect of, you know, you
know you've spoken about your relationship with your grandfather and
how close you guys were and how influential he was
on you. You realize, like, you know, in my generation,
we grew up, my parents came to this country, my
trans were born in this country, but they grew up
with without any grandparents. There were no grandparents anywhere. Where
do you think they all went? They were all dead.
You know. My parents grew up in a community, you know,
the baby boomers, and no one had grandparents, no one,
very few people. And you know, I was just trying
to appeal to her like humanity that even though you
can claim in your heart you have no antisemit, anti Semitism,
not an anti Semitic bone in your body, I don't
care about the bones in your body or what's in
your heart. I care about your conduct and what you're
saying and what you're doing out there, providing red meat
for every antisemit out there. So if you claim to care,
I'm just calling it like I see it, balls and strikes.
And the next day after that episode aired, like the
day later or the next week was like an expose
on how the Mangola experiments were rather bizarre and highly unlikely,
Like why would you do that? It's just a waste
of time and supplies. I just I just don't know
why you would do that, why you would sew twins together.
So I'm just like, you know what, all right? You
make your bed and uh, you know I'm not going
to sleep in it, and neither is George. We know
that George doesn't sleep.
Speaker 1: It's okay, sure, I didn't even have like haad you
pull out no wigs, which, yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Guys are both about You guys are both blowed. So
you can it.
Speaker 2: And because I have it, I have a serious question.
Speaker 3: Oh you like she's gonna be serious?
Speaker 1: Okay, just for a minute and then and then we
can go back to maybe getting some wigs out. But like,
I am very curious about your take on this, because
I feel like you you're much more literate on issues
of Israel and Jewish history than we are.
Speaker 2: But I do know that after World War Two, there
was clearly this period of our.
Speaker 1: Culture, our time the Western world, where we all sort
of collectively recognized that we had seen a horror and
that we were never going to do this again. I
mean that that's the whole reason that the phrase never
again happened, and here we are kind of doing it again.
So my question is just from a historical standpoint, what
you may know about this, how do we how how
did that happen? How do we get back to that?
Like what happened after the war that people were like,
you know what, that really sucked and we should make
sure that we'd never let it happen again. And here
are the signs we need to watch for, because like,
it's happening again.
Speaker 3: Do we have there is this salvageable?
Speaker 2: Is our culture recoverable? And if so, like, what do
we do to get there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big one's answery. Uh. You know. The
The interesting thing is it's like the efforts, the concerted
efforts over generations, over decades to ensure that it doesn't
happen again, almost one could say, leads to this Holocaust fatigue,
where then with the distance from the actual event and
the education people are raised on to ensure that you're
aware of such a thing, then they're just like, oh,
I'm so sick of it. I don't want to hear
about it. I don't want to you know. So there's
a couple of things. For one, you know, anti Semitism
doesn't thrive in a society that's doing well, you know,
where people it says a lot. It doesn't. Anti Semitism,
I think says less about the Jews in said society
and more about everybody else and what's going on with
them and the brain rot that's you know, spreading and
why you know so, I think one of Charlie Kirk's
efforts in doing that was to really try to focus
away from that conversation of naming and shaming these differ
people and rather focus on building people up, encouraging young
men to get married, to not be demoralized, to get motivated,
to be ambitious, industrious, and get back to church and
build up their communities. And rather than looking at the
Jewish community that succeeds in spite of whatever discrimination or hardships,
actually you know, has cohesion and continuity and family and
succeeds regard, you know, in spite of any you know,
environmental external difficulties, look to that with emulation and admiration.
And he was trying to do that. That was a
lot of his focus on, like, especially young Christian men,
to go back to church and reconnect. And I think
there's a there's a I'm encouraged to see that there
is a lot of that happening too. You know, while
the online world is like a cesspool, I think outside
of that, in the younger generation, there is this revitalization
of young men going back to church. Now in that
opportunity of like the vacuum of Charlie's absence and him
being you know, losing Charlie, like there's a vacuum of
people who come in and also want to lure a
lot of younger young men especially, but a young generation
of people for nefarious purposes. And you see that even
within the Christian movements that are kind of using Christianity
or the sort of integralist like weird Fuentes version of
trad Catholic that they're trying to like woor men in.
It's like Ursula in the ocean, luring young ariels come
with me, and you know, like you see that push
and pull in that gravitation pull that can go in
a very dark place. But I think that's the whole
disconnect for people is that, you know, for Jews, you know,
we have our antennas up in a way as sort
of the Canarian the coal mine. Why because we saw
not in a third world in some backward society, but
in the first world, in modern day Germany and Europe,
we saw how downstream, downstream from politics and culture, downstream
from politics and culture, maybe we can cut this out
but shoot, yeah, hey, Candae, I'll call you back. We're
just talking about.
Speaker 2: Do not cut that out out of that mass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one second, baby, I'll call you back.
Don't worry. Yes, kla kal, you can get it, okay,
cent regards to Dugan, regards to Dugan anyway, we see
the actual politics downstream from culture and what it takes. Look,
if you took the Holocaust out of the equation, as
in it never happened. If you took the thousands of
years of pigrums of persecution of the Jewish community of
Jews around the world, of being kicked out of Arab countries,
Muslim countries, Europe, the Holic if you took all that out,
then yeah, a lot of our paranoia or concerned would
be more manufactured, you know. And so because that has happened,
and there's a precedent for it, where you see where
things start at the at the level in the culture,
in depictions and art and literature that lead to a
delegitimization and a dehumanization. You can see how you know,
good people can end up doing evil, evil things. Everyone's
the hero in their own story. It's not like the
Nazis were like, let's be evil, that would be fun.
They they thought they were doing something virtuous, cleansing the
world in this project of racial purity. And so I think,
you know, we've actually I've been disheartened because you know,
I grew up in that general, you know, with Holocaust
surviving grandparents, but it was never never occur to any
of us in my generation that it could ever happen
in the West.
Speaker 2: Or in America like a lot so to see it.
Speaker 3: So when we see certain things, when we see hostage
posters being ripped down, when we see people celebrating October
seventh at elite institutions like universities, academia in the media,
when we see that, we don't just see like, oh,
you know, there's a conflict in the Middle East that's complicated,
so emotions run high. We see a deep historical thread
and trend that seems to be sickly and I can
understand why people outside the Jewish community who aren't educated
on the history that don't see that. And so there's
that component of it to make people aware of it,
while also you know, acknowledging that I think there have
been a lot of you know, Jewish institutions on the
left that sort of got on the whole victim narrative
marginalized community bandwagon alongside BLM, and then became abandoned by
such communities post October seventh when they thought, hey, we
stood with you, and rather than realizing who their true
allies were in sort of conservative circles, they were like, no, no, no, yes,
white people are evil and conservatives are evil. We're like you,
We're part of the you know, put us back in
the victim class, in the marginalized group status, so we can,
you know, play that card.
Speaker 4: Which explains their Democrat votes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they for years they were talking about Nazis
all over the US, you know, in twenty fifteen when
all we saw were five tiki torch guys and Donald Trump,
who is many things, but he's not a Nazi. And
so well, when you do have a little bit of
that crying wolf for overplaying that hand, then it's harder
when that doesn't mean that as adults, we can't look
around and say, okay, it wasn't true. Then it's a
lot more true. Now both things can be true. These
are different context different circumstances. In a pre October seventh world,
when you had a Charlottesville. You know, Jews will not
replace us by five tiki torches. I wasn't seeing KKK
TV on Disney. Plus, you know, it's not like the
worst I think offenses as far as Jews, Israel or
the West go is on the left, and that was
the case. But they may trump out to be a
Nazi because you said, find people on both sides cut
rather than and I'm not talking about the neo Nazis
and white supremacist because they should be condemned totally. And
I think, you know, there's a lot of things that
have happened since one being you know, COVID I think
did so much damage in people's trust in any sort
of institution or authority, and rightfully so in that instance,
but that means that when you erode that trust, than
any kind of institutional authority becomes not trustworthy and who people.
There's like a direct thread I think between that and
sort of modern day anti Semitism on the right, which
is we can't trust these authorities. Whoever's in control, whoever's
in power, whoever's in influence, must be evil and demonic,
like this guy doct de Fauchi, who was Italian by
the way, not Jewish. But the point is, you know,
the people at the levers of control or power, you
paint this narrative, and if you've been demoralized and disappointed,
you know before you know, I get it. I mean,
COVID was was not some conspiracy. It really happened. It
really damaged a lot of people. It shut the world down,
and it was a total gross violation of the relationship
between the population and citizenry and it's government.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I agree, and I agree with you whole
hardly when you say that anti Semitism lives. It like
flourishes and moral decay. And so we've got a lot
of that going on in our care and I think, honestly,
I think a lot of the solution to that is
just families and like and making sure you raise good
kids and make them understand things that they're not going
to learn in school. And like I try, we try
to do that. I hope other conservatives try to do that.
And just you know, it's I get the whole not
trusting government, but you also can't trust everything you hear
and see online. You got to just be a critical thinker.
You got to look, you got to make sure that
you're doing the right thing and then don't give a
crap about what people think you just.
Speaker 3: That's what Jordan's response to the left was, clean your
bloody room, and I think the right that's right. The
right needs to do the same thing because this cuts
both on both ends. It's not a left right issue.
It's there. There are really two types of people in
the world. There are those who are you know, grateful, accountable, appreciative,
take responsibility, and there are those that are resentful, bitter,
filled with grievance. They externalize their problems. They blame other people.
And Thomas Sole famously said it, if there's a choice
between blaming others and blaming oneself, people seldom blame themselves,
and that cuts on the left and the right as
we see today. So the easiest thing one can do
is blame other people for their own shortcomings and failures,
for other countries, whatever whatever it is you think. If
APAC disappeared tomorrow, suddenly you're you know, you know, if
you're a basement dweller, live streamer talking about the Jews,
APAC disappears tomorrow and your life gets better.
Speaker 1: No, exactly, So we didn't make you get out a
single wig. But I think you might have to buy
one of those like things that makes you look bald.
Speaker 2: Because Amy, the thing that you did.
Speaker 1: With the Sean Ryan and Megan Kelly video that you
put out, I think yesterday, I swear if I closed
my eyes you I don't know how you did this,
but you sounded exactly like Sean Ryan.
Speaker 3: How sitting back. Well, let's talk about it for a second.
I mean I've been watching the clips, so let me
ask you this. Oh my god, I couldnot You guys
are chicks on the right. How long have you been
on the right? And how long have you been chicks?
Speaker 2: How do you do that?
Speaker 1: I did it take you a long time to how
do you do that? What's the process for getting the voice?
Speaker 3: There's no real prime you know, just kind of watch
the episodes and everyone and then eventually it clicks.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I could not do that.
Speaker 4: Is a talent that's wild interesting way down.
Speaker 2: In his chair.
Speaker 3: I mean I thought he used to be I mean,
this guy was a Navy seal. But I just I
just think, like with Israel and APAC and everything's going on,
I don't even know. I don't even want to vote.
I mean, I don't know what's going on. I don't
even I stopped eating. I'm on I'm on a hunger
strike and I'm really hungry, but like APAC won't let
me eat. I tried to have some I tried to
have some fruity pebbles, and I thought that was maybe
some LGBTQ thing, but I was like, this is a pack,
is just a pa You know you.
Speaker 1: Yet? Have you done Nick any any impressions of twent I.
Speaker 3: Mean that one bothers me because I can't do it.
I tried. I've done a few. I've done like a
video or two.
Speaker 4: But Frontist has like a kind of like there's a
little bit of Joe Peshi in there.
Speaker 3: I feel she is such a retard. It's like Chicago
always got that. We're now sort of like tough one
he is. I mean, these people just need to be
executed when we take power. There's something going on there.
It dances with the mike that's laying down. Yeah, when
the trade. I'm a Catholics. I don't want to hurt anybody.
We just need to execute Jews at the occult of
Jewish power. I don't want to hurt anybody. No, yeah somethings.
That's amazing.
Speaker 1: It's so it's all of your videos are a huge treat.
If people are not following you, they are crazy.
Speaker 2: Please remind our audience where they can do just that.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Yes. Follow me on Instagram at
Ami Kozak, Ami Kosek Official on YouTube, Instagram Ami Kozak
on x. The podcast is called the Amy's House Podcast.
Go check that out too.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Streaming and podcast is everywhere you can find podcast Spotify, Apple,
all the rest. My band is called Distant Cousins. If
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website for that because they listen.
Speaker 1: Can we get one more Tucker laugh to take us out?
Speaker 3: I mean chicks on the right, I mean chicks is that?
Is that? Is that a bet? Is that a farm animal?
Because that's that's farm manufactured farming, that's agriculture and it's beautiful.
I mean, Israel has amazing agriculture, like amazing, But chicks
on the right, I mean, I don't even know what
that means. Are they chicks on the neo cons? I mean,
are the neo cons chicks? I don't know what that means.
I don't know what a chick is.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming back. I'm welcome.
Speaker 3: Anything's my pleasure, Yeah, pleasure