Speaker 1: At a book in.
Speaker 2: Tonight's guest is Carrie. Carrie, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Oh, thank you for having me vic. I appreciate the
opportunity to share. Unfortunately, my experiences that are happening.
Speaker 2: Well, you know you're welcome. I'm just so sorry you
had to have these experiences in the first place. That's
not good.
Speaker 3: No, that's not at all.
Speaker 2: No, it isn't. Carrie. Please give us a brief bio
on yourself.
Speaker 3: Well, I started out is a one hundred percent like
the most non believer you could ever talk to, and
anything paranormals. I think I've you know, I've told you before.
I believe in the Lord. So I just believed in heaven, hell, demon, angels.
You know that. That was it. I didn't believe in
anything else. And I always thought that I was an
open minded person. Come to find out, I was not.
I was a very closed minded person when I started
having a sasquatch experience in Tennessee in twenty sixteen, and
I changed my whole life. I had not heard anything
about a dog man, wear awolf, wolf, whatever they're they're called.
The sasquatch experience was shocking enough to me to get
through I didn't think that there there was more, But
there is. There's way more. There's way more out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately there is. You just mentioned the fact that
you were such a skeptic before you started having encounters.
How life changing was it for you though, to come
to the realization that cryptids actually do exist?
Speaker 3: Oh, very life changing. We sold our This was supposed
to be our We moved to the Smoky Mountains. I'm
from Virginia, Northern Virginia, near the border of West Virginia.
I grew up playing in the woods, hunting, fishing my
whole entire life. Growing up, we didn't have any toys.
The outdoors were our toys, hunting, fishing, hiking all over
West Virginia, Virginia, parts of North Carolina, the Dismal Swamp.
We moved to the foothills of the Smoky Mountains, about
thirty minutes from Gallenburg to retire. That was supposed to
be our retirement. Beautiful piece of property right at the foothills.
River was in front at the end of our road.
One way road, one one way in, one way out
was a wildlife management refuge. It was just an absolutely beautiful,
beautiful place. And after several years of dealing with that,
we just couldn't take it anymore, and we bought and
sold four homes in three years. Three and now, yeah
about I don't even know, I p I would really
have to sit down and look at the dates, but
somewhere between a little under three years and a little
over three years. But that's less than that's ten months
ten months for one home a year, and you're talking
about buying and selling a home and then having to
pack up and unpack all of your stuff. That's so expensive.
And we're not rich people. So it changed our lives
like that. I don't go deep in the woods anymore.
It took me a long time before we would even
kayak or I would even walk next to the if
I'm walking my dog. I wouldn't even want to walk
next to the edge when I'm walking on the road,
next to the edge of the woods. I mean, it
just to change. It changed everything. I don't go wouldn't
go out at night. I got to the point where
I didn't even want to leave the house for for
months at a time. Yes, I couldn't sleep, And mainly
there's multiple reasons. One because sometimes they would be outside
and we would hear them, they'd be jumping on the roof,
or I just couldn't sleep because I was anticipating something happening.
It's just it's taken me a long time to be
able to finally figure out how to know these things
are real and me and my family live a normal life,
and it's not been easy, but I've kind of figured out, like, yes,
they're real. I was not as open minded as I thought.
And there are things out there that we don't want
to believe, and we don't want to believe because they're
scary things. In our we want things to be everything,
to have a neat little box to fit in, and
when it doesn't have that little box to fit in,
we don't know what to do with it. So it
just kind of bounces all around in our brain until
we become super obsessed with it or we withdraw with
it from it, and it can literally drive you nuts
because they're not supposed to exist, and they do, and
you talk about it, you get laughed at or ridiculed.
Some of my own family members laughed at me and
looked at me like, are you okay, and I was
looking at them dead in the eyes and saying yes,
laugh all you want, I know what I saw. And
if I was just the only person that had witnessed this,
like if my husband and my daughter that she moved out,
she was an adult, but she was living with us
for a little while she moved out, she couldn't deal
with it. If I wasn't the only one, then I
might think I was nuts. But I've got confirmation, and
I've even had physical pictures and proof, so I know,
I know I'm not crazy. And I've never, like I said,
I've never you know, taken psychological meds. I've never had
not that there's anything wrong with that, but I haven't.
I've never heard voices in my head before. I've never
you know, had other like experiences that haven't been able
to be proven by witnesses or proof happened before. So
it's totally. It's yes, it's changed my life considerably. And
I always tell people just because it didn't happen to
you doesn't mean that it is not real, and that's
what I tell myself.
Speaker 2: You're right, those are wise words, and I'm so sorry
to hear you had to go through all that. No
one should have to deal with that sort of trouble.
I mean, life is difficult enough as it is, and
then on top of that, you have to deal with
being basically under siege and you're an home and then
you pack up and move three times and that doesn't
get the job done. They still follow you. That's just
absolutely horrible. But having said that, Kirie, realizing that cryptids
are out there, obviously it changed your life quite a bit.
But what did that revelation do to your faith?
Speaker 3: Well, I think that that strengthened my faith because I
know that God protected me because there's so many times
I was completely alone with my dog and I have
a service dog, Rottweiler, and he would we'd be walking
and all of a sudden, the least would just like
tighten up and he would start growling this mean growl,
and he would be locked on to something looking at
it and I just could not see it. And I
would be squinting, and I mean looking at the top
of the trees and just scanning everywhere I could. And
I grew up being able to track different wildlife footprints
and just track animals. Like I said, I hunted, So
if you spend that much time in the woods, you're
pretty good at that. So I was really good at
scanning and noticing any little, any little difference in the
woods that I had been in multiple times before I
could pick it out. It would be like, you know
that that where's waldo kind of thing. I could pick
it out within less than a few seconds, and you know,
I would look and I wouldn't see anything. And I
just it strengthened my faith because I know, if they
wanted to, they had so many opportunities to grab me,
and I would be one of those missing people. And
I've also thought about there's so many missing people nowadays
all over the place, just in the United States, Like
in each state, if you're not in that state or that,
let me say that particular county, you don't even hear
about it. For instance, if somebody goes missing two states away,
I don't we don't hear about it here, you know,
in Indiana, we don't hear about it on our TV
unless it's you know, a child, and then you get
that Amber alert for you know, a couple of seconds
on your phone two or three times and that's it.
But there's so many missing people that you know, back
when I was growing up, if somebody went missing, it
would just be on every State's TV everywhere blasted everywhere.
There's so many missing people now, it's just like if
you're even lucky enough to make it on the TV news,
it's like for a few seconds and that's it, and
it's like you're forgotten about because the police and the
detectives and whoever else is looking for you. If it
even goes past the local police, they can't keep up
with how many people they are missing. So you're just
you're just forgotten about, you know, except for your you know,
your loved ones, which they really can't do much except
look themselves. So I mean, you could easily go missing,
and it's like nobody cares anymore because they just can't
keep up with it. And you know, I know that,
I know that, God's because that could have happened so many,
so many opportunities. Like I went hunting in the Dismal Swamp.
I hiked five miles in one time by myself, and
I heard something I did not believe in Bigfoot. The
only thing I knew about it or didn't know I
you can hear the word dog man. Anything I ever
heard about Cryptis was that that Patterson and Gimblin film
A few seconds and that was it. I heard something
growling underneath my tree stand I don't know, I didn't
know what it was, and my hair started standing up,
and I started getting this very uneasy feeling like I
needed to leave or something was going to happen. And
I just kept pushing it and staying and staying and staying,
and all these deer came running out towards me, and
then I got the feeling like if you don't leave,
something's gonna happen. So I did. I hiked out, and
if God wasn't protecting me, I could have been so
easily missing and that would have been it. So it
strengthened my faith knowing that one hundred percent God has
protected me because I did believe in him even though
I wasn't following him as much as I am now
and I am now more because I know he's I
know he has protected me. I did believe in him then,
but was not seeking him as much as I am now.
So it's definitely, oh two two hundred percent increased not
only my faith, but my husbands and my daughters. I
have three daughters them and my grandchildren, so it has
changed that quite a bit for the good.
Speaker 2: Safe to say that's about the only good takeaway from
all those experiences that you've had. Thank goodness, it did
at least have that effect on you.
Speaker 3: Yes, I would definitely say so.
Speaker 2: Oh definitely. All right, Carrie, Please tell us about your encounters. Now,
give us ever last detail that comes to mind.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, well it's it started out by having experiences
with Bigfoot, and back in Tennessee. Well, we moved to
get away from that after it wasn't bad encounters, but
it was just so much happening every single day that
I wasn't being able to sleep, and it was I
couldn't put my dogs on the deck, my cats couldn't
get any rest because stuff would tapp on the windows
all night long. It was just so much going on.
We had to move because my nerves couldn't take it anymore.
It was like what next? What next? I was in
a constant state of like, you know, heightened awareness, and
I wanted to live there to relax. So we moved,
and we wanted to move to Indiana because I have
a daughter, two daughters that live here now, and my
third one will be moving here soon. So we looked
the whole state to find a house that was big
enough because I'm home a lot and we wanted a
little bit of land. That was very hard to find
a house that was on a price range that didn't
need a lot of work. We found an older farmhouse
that was had been completely redone on the inside and
it was on a beautiful several acres property. There was
nothing around one, you know. One one thing about Indiana
is when you get up in the farm land part,
it just is everything's flat and it's very square, and
it's like one lane country roads. It can barely squeeze
two cars past, and everywhere you look is just fields
of corn as far as the eye can see. And
it gets really high and it's beautiful. It's a different
type of beauty from the Smoky mountains, but it's beautiful.
And it is very cold, but the rest of the
year Indiana has beautiful weather. So we picked this farmhouse
and we loved it. It was perfect. Well. The fir
first thing that we know, just right after we moved
in is like I said, I have a service dogger rotweller.
The upstairs bedroom there was a two let. It's like
your typical, you know, two level older farmhouse. The way
that just almost all of them look the same, and
they have the green you know, open doors that go
down to the root cellar. On the outside, well where
I slept was right next to this window. On the
second level, there was a concrete wall about four feet
now I'm sorry, not four feet high, but knee high.
I don't know, maybe two and a half feet high.
And it was about four feet from the border of
the house. And it looked like they used it for
some kind of you know, flower garden. That's the only
thing I could think of. But it was concrete. And
the first level of the roof was about six feet high.
You grab on the gutter and you just can swing
yourself right up there. Well I couldn't, but a cryptid could.
And you climb up there and where the two roofs,
and there's like a little nook, like a little corner,
and right right in the behind that Okay, if you
go back in that corner, my head would be right
against that wall where that corner was. Well in my
window where I slept, my husband slept closer to the door,
you know, in case anything ever happened. He wanted to
be first to get up, not and put me by
the door. So I was by the window and it
was enough space for my dog's bed. Well, he's a
big dog. He's one hundred and thirty pounds, so he
has this bed the size of like a toddler mattress
and it's really thick. And this dog is constantly I
take a shower and he's right there at the shower
curtain like he thinks, what, I don't know, a squirrel
might come and attack me when I'm in the shower.
I'm like, he eats squirrels, so I don't know. He
just he's I'm like, this dog never le I'm trying
to like go to the bathroom, and I'm like, dude,
like give me some privacy, like get away, like hello, hello,
get out, And I literally have to shove him and
the bath and like he never leaves my side. And
we got there the first night we got there, and
get me back up. The first night we got there,
our stuff was still in storage because we had to
wait a little while we sold the first house in Tennessee,
and it was about a month before we closed on
the house. So we were in a hotel for about
a month while we were waiting to close in this house.
Our stuff was on storage, so we had an air
mattress and the downstairs living room windows were two feet
off the ground, so it was literally over my head
the air mattress where we were sleeping. The first night
we were there, I heard something walking in the pea
gravel that is like when there's a couple of little
boxwood bushes and as zalias there. We moved in like
two days before Christmas, so it was wintertime, and I
heard something walking through the pea gravel and it's like
three o'clock in the morning. My husband's asleep, and all
of a sudden, before I even had it. This is
the weird part. And this has happened a few times
when they're around, and I've kind of I've always had
like special abilities to feel energies ever since I was
a kid, and I think I think I've mentioned before
my my sister's a well known, well known psychic in
South Carolina. I have some of the same ability she has,
but I don't practice them. I don't want to. But
when something is threatening, like my family or me, like
or something that's not supposed to be there, like not
even supposed to exist, it turns on like immediately the
sixth sense. I guess you want to call it. They
can't call it anythings, but that's what I call it.
And it'll turn on automatically. Well it turned on before
I even had a chance to know to be afraid.
And my hair starts up on my arm, like if
you rub a balloon on your arm, your hair will
stand up. And I was like, uh, okay, this is
very weird. And I got this cold chill down my spine,
and all of a sudden, I heard something sniffing at
the window, like if it was Clifford the big red
dog sniffing me. And I'm like, I'm sitting a shake
in my head like what like huh like my hearing
this is something and I'm I'm turning my ear towards
the window and I'm only like eight inches from the
window my ear is and I'm like, holy crap, something
is actually sniffing me. Like I don't know if I
should get up. I'm scared to wake my husband up
because if it's as big as it sounds and it's
sniffing me, he's gonna be like what what what's going
on and be all loud, And I'm scared something might happen.
So I'm like, I don't do I do I get up?
Do I turn to light it on? I don't know
what to do. So I'm laying there like debating. All
this is going through my mind like a zillion miles
an hour, and it's still sniffing me. And I can
hear it walking back and forth, and you could definitely
hear something on two two feet, two legs biped walk
them back and forth, back and forth, And it doesn't
sound like it's taking like little steps like a deer.
It's something big and heavy, like crunch crunch, like there's
a few second paws in there where I guess its
legs are so tall. It has a few seconds before
the other foot lands on the gravel, and I'm like,
oh my gosh, this is something like loud. Like first
of all, I always have to sleep with the fan on.
So we had two fans going yes in the middle
of the winter, and over the two fans, I heard
this thing and I'm like, this is this can't be happening.
So you know, then I just laid there and I
start praying, the only thing I knew to do by
cause I went over every other scenario and none of them.
All of them seem like they might create a more
bigger problem. So I just start praying. I'm like, in
the name of Jesus, I command you to leave, and
the name of Jesus, I com mand you to leave.
And I was saying it out loud. I wanted to
make sure that it could hear me, because I didn't
know if I said it in my head if it
could hear me or not. And as soon as I
start saying that, I heard one loud, like a really
like deeper than that, and it was like an exhale
but a growl at the same time, and everything stopped.
And I was like, what the heck. I really wanted
to say curse, but was that? But I tried the curse.
I'm not saying I'm perfect. I do believe in the Lord,
but I'm not perfect. So I was like, oh my gosh.
So that was it, rush night, dead quiet, and that
we got our furniture. We had it moved in onlooked
what we had it in our own truck, loaded up
in our own Penske truck. The movers came, they unloaded it,
they put it all in ware reduless sleep in our beds.
That night. My dog's bed was right next to that
window on the second level of this farmhouse. My bed
was right there. Well, that very first night, I'm like,
and he gets covered up. He has a pillow, he
has a teddy bear, Like this dog has the life.
He has a pillow, he has a teddy bear, he
has his own blanky. And I put him over there
and I covered him up, and he carries his own
teddy bear over there. Yes, let's I guess everybody knows
that now. But anyway, the store there gets the dogs
out of the bag. So I lay him down, get
him in his bed, and then I lay down and
I'm like, oh the thank god, we're in our own bed.
And immediately he jumps up and he starts pacing back
and forth, back and forth, and I'm like, what's wrong, buddy.
I know you don't have to go potty like you
already went. Big dogs seemed to be able to hold
it longer, and so I knew he did have to
go to the bathroom, Like what the heck's wrong? And
he just kept pacing back and forth like nervous energy,
and I'm like, okay, this is very weird. He doesn't
I mean, we're so close to each other. We have
a spawn like he knows when something's wrong with me,
and I know when something's wrong with him. And I
knew something was wrong, but I didn't know what. So
I got up. I checked all the doors. Everything was secure.
I looked out the front door without opening didn't see anything.
I laid it back down. He continued to do this,
and he would not lay over there in his bed
by that window. Every time I dragged him over there
and put him in, he would jump up soon as
I cover him up, and he'd leave. And then he
got to the point where I couldn't even drag him
over there. He refused to go by that window. I
opened the curtain. We had a blackout curtain, and which
means if some people don't know most people do, there's
no light that gets through it was it was dark,
but it's pretty heavy. And I opened the curtain. I
looked out a few times, opened the miniblind, and I
didn't see a thing. And it's very there's not any
smog there. So out where this house was in Upper Indiana,
you can see all the stars, like the sky is
crystal clear, like almost every night out there unless it's
a storm. So when this continued and he wouldn't let
he wouldn't lay over there, well, there was nowhere else
to put his dog bed. So finally he was just
laying on the floor at the end of at the
end of the bed on an arm, laying on the
hard floor. He's a big dog and it's not good
for his joints. So this continued. I tried every I
tried treats, I tried everything. I even washed all of
his bedding, thinking that was the problem because it had
been in stores. Nope, he still wouldn't lay over there.
And he'd been laying he had this bed, oh three
four years, so it was not a new bed. There
was no reason why he would not go over there,
even during the day thick even during the daytime, he
would not go over there near this window. Also, the
other thing I want to mention is nothing scary happened
inside this house. Like this house did not feel haunted
in any way. It did not feel like there was
any ghosts there. Nobody really knew the history on this house.
It was like nineteen eighteen. But I didn't have and
I walked to this house, and I would have felt
it that I did a walk through before we bought it,
and I did not feel anything bad in this house,
and I would have known right off the bat I
would have been able to feel it. So discontinued for
a while. And about not even a month after we
moved in, I started hearing stuff jump on the roof.
And I first I thought, I'm like, Okay, your imagination. Okay,
you're just scared. Okay, this okay, that, Okay, it's thunder. Okay,
I'm not I am not the first to think that
it's my imagination. I'm not the first. Oh it's a bigfoot,
it's a it's a dog man, it's this, it's a ghost,
it's no. I try to debunk it in every way possible,
and then when I can't, I'm like, well, I guess
perhaps happening again. It isn't supposed to be happening, but
it's happening. So what are you gonna do? So what
I usually do is pray when there's nothing else to do. Well,
this happened. I hear something literally like land on the roof,
like like a minding of the Olympics, Like you see
these sprinters they're running, they leap over these oh, I
don't know what you call them, the little pul like
that the salt They look like the saw horse looking things.
They jump over those and they land really hard and
they take off running. That's exactly what I could see
in my head. And I'm like, and they'd run all
the way across the roof and it'd be gone, and
then like five minutes later, you're here to get. Five
minutes later, you're here to get all night long, and
I'm like, what the heck is happening. Well, this was
happening for so many times eventually, and I have pictures
of it. There was a path. This is a brand
new roof too, by the way, and we got the house,
there was a path worn down from where you can
get up on the roof right in front of the house,
like that little concrete wall right to my bedroom window,
right to my bedroom window. The shingles were literally worn down.
They were gone. You could start, you could start seeing
the paper that they put on before they put the
shingles on, and the rest of the house we were
looking seemed kind of fine. And I just couldn't I
couldn't believe that was happening. Well, this continued to happen.
And then several times I'd be laying there and I
wouldn't hear that anything jump on the roof, and I
would feel I'd hear like a little like if you
take your finger and you do like a dump dump,
And I was trying, okay, it's that that it's the
pipes that says it's that, and I i would go
through the whole scenario again and I'd keep hearing it,
and it would be like two times or three times
it was right behind my head in that little nook
on the roof, and then all of a sudden, before
I had it before. I want this to be like
well known, before I had a chance to be afraid.
My instincts. I guess it's like a primal instincts we're
born with, like you to know to be afraid, you know,
it would kick in and I would be so afraid,
like I It's the only way I've thought about how
to describe this fear, because I've heard other people on
podcasts talk about this fear, and the way I can
describe it to let other people know, pretend like you
got locked in a cage, in a glass cage with
a polar bear by accident and all of a sudden,
you turn around and there's a polar bear coming at you.
That kind of afraid. I felt like I wanted to
hide to the covers, but I knew that wouldn't be
good enough. I wanted to crawl into the bed, but
I couldn't fit. There was there was nowhere I could go.
And it was always between ten tennish. Tennish and eleven
thirty was always a very big time and two forty
five ish between four thirty big time. Those were always
the prime times that this would happen everywhere we lived.
Every time well I got I would get that fear
and I knew something was sitting in that nook and
it would just sit there all night long, and it
was it was just so scary, like I didn't know.
I didn't want to denounstairs by myself, so I just
laid there and prayed and prayed and prayed and prayed
out loud. And I don't know if it left or not,
but the tapping stopped. I still felt that it was there,
but the tapping stopped. So a few months after this,
my daughter moves in. She we moved in two days
before Christmas, and she moved in middle of April. Well,
I didn't tell her any of this because I didn't
want her to be afraid. I had already told her
about the bigfoot stuff in Tennessee happening, and I told
her we were moving because of it. I did not
want her to be afraid again. She had an upstairs bedroom,
you know, right next to ours. And the next day
she says, I know, you guys are gonna think I'm
totally nuts, but I'm telling you the God's honest truth.
And she she does not lie. She will tell you.
One thing I can say about my girls is they
don't lie. Like if they say something, it is, that's
what it is. And you know, I'm the same way,
Like there's two things, a couple of things that cannot
deal with. Don't be a liar, you know, don't be
a thief. If you don't want to tell the truth,
just don't say anything. Just don't say anything at all,
so she says, and they guys are gonna think I'm crazy.
But I was downstairs and I heard something sniffy me
and I'm like, whoa, whoa wait. I'm like, did you
have the TV on a radio? And she's like, no, Mom,
I had nothing on I was sitting down there in
the dark, and I have night lights and rechargeable lights
in every room, so it's not pitch black because of
all of this stuff. And she says, I'm sitting on
the couch beside the window and I'm texting, and I
hear something sniffing me at the window, and I could
hear it pacing back and forth in the gravel. And
she has some abilities too. She was born being able
to see, as people believe it or not, it's the truth, demons.
At the age of two years old, she would tell
me exactly what they looked like, and she'd be profusely
sweating and her face would be ghost white, and I
knew she wasn't lying. She hadn't even seen anything on
TV to be able to even be able to describe
the stuff she was seeing. So she's had abilities too,
a little bit different than mine. But she can feel
energies as well. And I said, what did it feel like?
She said, it felt like something that didn't belong here,
something wild, something that should not exist, something like I've
never experienced before. So I said, were you scared? And
she's like, yes, I ran, and she's like this crazy
farm house you guys had to buy. There's some we had.
We had not got a chance to put all the
curtains up, so she said, as I ran in the
bathroom and I realized that you didn't have a curtain
or many blind up. She's like, and I ran in
this room and she's like, I'm ducking and dodging and crawling,
and she's like, I don't know where to go. She's like,
because everywhere I went you, She's like, you idiots didn't
have curtains up yet. I'm like, oh my gosh. I'm like, well,
why didn't you come upstairs. She's like, I don't know.
I was so freaked out. I was running all over
the place. I don't know where to go. She's like,
So then they get upstairs and I'm laying in my bed.
I wanted to wake you up, but I know I
knew you'd freaked out, and I woke up at you know,
it was like eleven o'clock at night. So she says,
I go to bed and I'm like laying there, like
scared to death all night long, and she's like, finally
I fell asleep. It was like six o'clock in the
morning I fell asleep. So then she tells me and
I'm like okay, and I said, well, the same thing
happened to me, and she's like, oh my gosh, why
don't you tell me. Well, I didn't tell her because
I didn't want her to be scared. That's what I said.
So then a few days later she tells me, okay,
we got another problem. And I'm like, yes, Leah, and
she says, I know you guys are not gonna believe
me because this just can't be happening. But I swear.
I'm like, don't swear. She's like, I swear, mom, something
is jumping on the roof and I'm telling the truth.
I promise you I'm telling the truth. I'm like, what
do you mean jumping on the roof And she's like,
it literally sounds like it's running, and as it's running
and lands on the roof while it's still like mid run,
hits the roof and just keeps on running all the
way across the roof. And I said, like on four
legs or two legs or can you tell? And she's like,
it definitely sounds like two legs, and it sounds like
something that has some weight to it like heavy. I said,
heavier than me or you, and she's like, yes, she's
one hundred pounds. I'm two hundred pounds and she's like, yes,
heavier than you or me, And I'm like, well, then
I told her the same thing happened to me, but
I didn't want to tell her because I didn't want
her to be scared. And she described it almost exactly
like I had told my husband about it, and he
had heard it a couple of times. I woke him
up and he heard it because I told him what
was happening. I'm like, look, I don't want to wake
you up, and you'd be like what, why, what's going on?
Like what, and be all loud. So I'm just gonna
tap you if it's happened, so you can hear it.
So I did tap him several times he and he
just kind of like and then he caught himself. He
said anything woke up and he heard it as well.
And dog dog wouldn't lay over there by this window.
We had stuff running across the roof. So my other
daughter finally comes and visits from Upper Indiana, and I
told her that some strange stuff was going on. But
I didn't tell her exactly what. And her fiance comes
and he's a big guy. He's like, oh gosh, six
foot four, two hundred and thirty pounds, like he's big,
he's built, and he's like, you know, like he's all stocky.
So and he vapes, and he knows that I don't
like definitely, he everybody knows you do. If you smoke,
you do not smoke in my house. And you better
not leave any cigarette butts or anything like that outside
for my dogs to see or me to see. So
he goes outside behind the bar and he's I guess
he's so scared of yelling at them about she doesn't
she doesn't smoke, but he vapes. He didn't want to,
you know, have any tes with me, And so he
goes behind the barn. We're in bed ten thirty at
night and I told them, I said, don't go outside.
Well I didn't tell them why. I guess I should have.
Probably wouldn't have believed me anyway. And like I said,
is a big guy, and he's not really scared him much.
His father was in the navy, so he raised him
pretty rough, so he's not scary easy. So he's behind
the barn vaping. It's about ten thirty at night, and
then he tells me this the next morning, and he
says he told me himself, told me and my husband.
He's like, well, I'm outside ten thirty at night vaping.
I'm sorry. I know you told me not to go outside,
but I locked the door and unlocked the door and
blah blah blah. He's like, however, all of a sudden,
I heard bipedal footsteps coming towards me, which was loud.
The corn was still. They mow it down like late
late summer, and that's it for the season, and it
starts playing it and it starts coming up like end
of April, I'm sorry, like middle of May, and they
take it all down. By November, it's gone. It just
looks like flat, dry fields as long as you can
see in every direction all around our house where we lived,
on every side, and one little small lane road that
just went forever, and it's like big squares everywhere you
can go, like intersections t intersections with the same kind
of roads, so you can see forever. So then remember
me saying that you can see, like I mean as
long as far as your I can see. And we
do have windmills. This was where the windmill farms were
where we lived in Upper Indiana. It was Waite County,
wolcot Indiana. There's there's Wolcotteville, and there's woolf w o
l co ot T, Indiana where we lived. Oh, it's
about less than an hour from Chicago on that side,
the Illinois side. So he says, I hear by Peter
footsteps coming towards me. I hear gravel crunching, and all
of a sudden, before I had a chance to even
get afraid, I felt that he and he described the
same exact kind of fear that I had. He said,
I had this overwhelming sense of fear come over me,
and he was like, I got so scared. All I
kept hearing was I needed to run. I needed to run,
Like I was literally a fear of my life and
I didn't even know why because I hadn't seen anything yet.
Oh I heard was footsteps. He's like, you know, I
didn't know what the heck it was. And I asked
him if it was by Peter footsteps two or four
and he said definitely two. So he said, he looked
and he shined his light on his phone, and he
could see nothing. And he said it was so close
that he should have been able to feel something, I mean, sorry, something,
So he said he got so scared he dropped his
vape and ran, and he's like, I knew not to run,
but I felt it was so close. I ran. And
he's like, I left my vape out there until like
the morning, and I went and got it. And I
thought that was very strange. And they wouldn't come back
after that. I couldn't even get them to come back.
They were so afraid. He did not want to even
come back to their house, which made me kind of
sad because I couldn't see my daughter, well a few months.
I don't even know if I was a few months later.
Let me back up, back, right, back up a little bit.
I can't well, I can't get it was right after
we moved in. I'm sorry I forgot this part. I
thought it was later on, right after we moved in.
Of course, when you move in, you have to replenish
your food supply, you know, and your condemns and your
hiding toilet paper and all that kind of stuff. You're
not gonna all of that around. What do you mean
you're getting get rid of whatever is half gone. So
we had to make a trip to Sam's Club to
replenish the main food stuff that we couldn't bring with us,
and toilet paper and stuff like that clean supply. So
we go to Sam's Club and it starts snowing and
it's a really cold, snowy night. It's not like a blizzard,
but snow's coming down. It's very cold. There was no wind.
Strangely enough, there's usually always wind where we were. There
was no wind this night. And we get back and
it's like eight thirty and we get home, which is
very late for us to be out shopping coming home,
but we had a lot to do. So my husband's
keep getting the stuff in out of the car and
you know, leaving what he needs help carrying. And I'm
sitting in the car and I'm texting my daughter and
letting her know, and we just got home, and I'm
finishing my text because I don't text when i'm driving.
So as i'm texting her, I got my driver's door
halfway open, and my foot is on the running board
and yeah, it's cold, but you know, I'm all bundled up,
and I think my car was still I don't know
if it's I think it's probably still running out of
the heat on. Well, my husband's in the house and
the door's shut. And when you pull up, it's a
gravel driveway. You're facing the barn like a two or
three cars. It's a big pole barn, and the house
would be on the driver's side, and there's a long,
you know, old sidewalk that goes right up to the house,
sidewalks probably thirty feet long, and then you go right
in the two steps and then you go right in
the front door. So I'm sitting the door halfway open
and finishing my text and it was just and i'd
been out there, I don't know, four or five minutes,
and I just was on my last sentence and I
text super slow, like really slow with the one finger.
It's because ridiculous, But anyway, I'm texting that, and all
of a sudden, out of my peripheral vision on the
passenger side. I still cannot even I want to keep
telling myself like, you didn't see that, you didn't see that.
You want to keep going back in your head and
be like, did you really see that? Are you sure?
Did you really see that? Are you sure that happened,
but yes, every time I keep doing I don't know
why your brain does that. I guess because you wanted
to not be real, that's why, because like, how can
this crap be real? Like I don't want this to
be real because I don't know where to put this.
I don't know what to do with this. Why isn't
the government letting people know this stuff is real? And
of course they have to know. I mean, so many
people have reported this, so I'm going back and forth
and I'm like, yes, this really happened. So I see
it in my periphial vision, something going past me. Well,
it was so freaking quick. When people say it's so quick, yeah,
I would say as quick as a car. If you
were doing forty miles an hour in a car, that
quick went by me. However, I remember I grew up hunting,
playing in the woods, fishing, hunting, hiking everywhere, and my
dad was military, so he was in the military, so
he trained us. He used to do this thing where
you go in the store because he had all girls
and he didn't you know, if anything ever happened to us.
He wanted us to be able to explain, describe what
the bad guy looked like. So he'd say, we'd go
in like seven to eleven they had back where he
grew up, and he'd say, okay, look at this person.
Turn around. Look at them for three seconds. Turn around.
He'd give us like five seconds, and he say, okay,
tell me what they look like, from the shoelaces to
what the soles of their shoes looked like, to everything
all the way at the top of their head, eyeglasses
that had earing the whole nine yards if it was
a guy, everything even their eye color. And he was
dead serious about that, and we better got it right
or we'd have to be in our room. So we
were really good at doing that, and so I was
really good at doing that. So when I saw this
thing go by my aunt, that that training that my
dad gave was kind of clicked in what I saw
going by me. Remember, I was looking straight. I just
finished my text and I was just getting ready to
get out of the car. I just put my phone
in my pocket, and I see what looks like tires
rolling by me. And it was right when I say,
right next to the passenger door, which was closed. I
did have my dome light on because my door was open,
and the dome as the older, older Accura suv. I
called a truck. A lot of people make fun of me,
including my sister, because I called a truck. To me,
it's a truck because it's tough. And I saw it
looked like going past me so fast, it looked like tires.
But when I thought about it, I really analyzed the
situation afterwards. It was knees because I could see the
tops of two black knees, and I knew it was
not a bigfoot because it was too skinny. It didn't
have the muscular it didn't have the same leg building strength.
There were skinny, long, long, weird looking legs and weird
looking knobby knees, like two knobby When I saw Sasquatch's knees,
they were wide up and down in every direction and
just muscular. These were just wasn't like that. And it
went by so quick, and it was very black, and
it also had a different color hair or fur. It
was more a little bit fuzzy and kind of nappy
and matted looking when I say madded, like dirty and
kind of some spots were kind of chunked chunked together,
and some spots weren't. When I saw the bigfoot that
the hair it was haired and was like sleek and shiny.
This was different and it looked more like fur not hair,
and it was it was like I said, I've a rottweiler,
and it was a little bit longer than his hair,
but not by much. Well, when I saw that before,
like like I said, before I even had a chance
to actually get scared, because that takes a second in
your brain, like, oh my gosh, I saw that, and
then you get scared. I had that overwhelming sense of fear,
like I said again, like if you're trapped in a
cage with a polar bear and it's facing you down,
that kind of fear. And I was so scared. I
was getting ready to start blowing the horn because there
was no way I was getting out of that car.
And as soon as that thing went past me, I
turned my light off and I shut the door, and
I looked and I locked my door, my car door,
truck door, a cvy door or whatever. And I turned
around and I looked and it was gone. And it
was a full moon that night. I could see the
road behind me. We were about ninety feet from the road.
I could see the road, and I could see the field,
the dirt field that they'd mowed down, the corn behind me,
and it went, oh gosh, probably two football fields, and
there was nowhere to be found. It was completely gone.
And I'm like, where the heck did it go. There's
no trees, there's not even any bushes, there's nothing, like,
where did it go? It cleared all of that. By
the time I turned my car off or whatever, locked
the door, shut the door, and turned around, it was gone.
And I just couldn't believe. Well. I got ready to
start blowing the horn because there was no I wanted
to drive off and I lived there, that was my house.
I was ready to drive away, like somewhere else. I
don't even know where I was gonna go, but I
was ready to drive off, and it got start blowing
the horn, like my hand was right from the horn.
All of a sudden, the front door comes open, and
my husband's like, oh my gosh, get in here right now,
get in the house right now. I'm like, what what happened?
What happened? And I'm rolling down the window like yelling
out one little crack and I'm not even opening the
door yet, and he's like, get in his house right now,
Get in this house. I'm like why what. He's like,
I don't know, I don't know, but something just and
he very much believes in God too, and he's like,
I don't know, but something just told me right now
at the tuning to get in this house right now.
You're in danger. Get in here. And then all of
a sudden, he starts like like literally gagging to the
point where he's ready to throw up, and he's spitting
all over the front porch, like spitting out saliva. And
I'm like, what are you doing? Like he doesn't two
tobacco or smoke or drink or anything like that, so
there's no reason for him to be doing that. And
then all of a sudden, I open the door, my
car door to make sure that he's okay, and it
hits me. It hits me like a freaking brick wall
right in the face. I had passed out or seizure
once a long time ago as a teenager, and they
broke an ammonia capsule under my nose and that smell was,
Oh my gosh, it's like you never want to experience that.
That's exactly what it smelled like. Ammonia like the worst
urine smell, like if you never ever flushed your toilet.
It smelled like that, and like like wet, like nasty, nasty,
like if you never washed your dog and the outside dog.
That just was disgusting and it never took a bath
and it was wet. It smelled like that with ammonia
like urine, and it was such I've heard people say
before the smell was so overwhelming. This okay, this is
how overwhelming the smell was. Because when I heard that,
I'm like, well, I don't know what they mean. This
is what they mean, because it happened to us, him
and me, and I'm still half I'm still sitting in
my truck. I just had my door open. The smell
was so bad. It was taking my breath away and
it was making my mouth water. I couldn't take a
breath in barely. I was like short breath in it,
and my mouth was making so much saliva I was
having to spit it out because I was about ready
to throw up. Like if you're ready to throw up,
if you've ever had the flow or got sick and
your mouth starts watering, it's like that. It was doing that.
For both of us, and we were and then I
started leaning out of my you know, truck door, and
I'm spitting because I couldn't I couldn't swallow it. I
was ready to throw up, and I couldn't breathe, and
I'm like, oh my gosh, what is that smell? And
so I shut that door and I got it. I
got a bum leg, I got a bad knee. I've
had a knee replate, bad knee replacement, so I can't
run anymore. I get out of the car and I start,
I'm trying to go move as fast as I can
to get in that you know sidewalk up that sidewalk.
When you get out of the truck, you're it's two
steps and then a little bit sidewalk and another two steps,
and then you got like that you know, long little
sidewalk that goes right up to your front two steps
and then you're in the house. I couldn't get out
of that truck. I could not get in that house
fast enough. I shut that door and I was taking
the biggest, quickest steps I could, and I was trying
to hold my breath the whole way. And I pulled
my shirt sweater up over my nose, and I had
my hand over my nose. I was trying not to
breathe as I was walking because I literally thought I
was gonna throw up. And we both shut the door
and we're sitting there like, oh my gosh, what the hell,
Oh my gosh, oh my, And he didn't know what
I saw. So I told him and he's like, what,
oh my gosh. He's like I knew. He's like, I
knew you were in danger. And I said, did you
see something. He's like, no, no, he's like something told
me like I said, like in your head. He's like, no,
A feeling like if you like you were in danger,
you need to get in the house like that second.
So I I said, look, I've hunted, you know, I've
hunted my whole life and been in the woods. If
it was a skunk and it sprayed, it's going to
be gone, you know, maybe five minutes or not as strong,
not as strong. Well, so I said, let's just stand
there for five minutes. I feel like I'm re living this.
Let's just stand there for five minutes and by the
inside the front door, right at the front door on
the other side, and we can't smell it because the
house is the door seals pretty good brandy door. And
I said, we're going to open the door in five
minutes and see if we still smell it. So we did.
We opened the door. In five minutes, it was completely gone.
And I said, well, now, I think I might have
said it wrong about a skunk, but I said, if
a skunk sprayed, you would still smell it, like for days.
Like one little puff of a skunk spray, you're gonna
smell it for days. If anyone's ever had skunk and
you drive by, you're gonna smell it for like a
month or long. It just never seems to go away.
And within five minutes that smell was gone, Like no,
And I'm like what that. I'm like, let's go out
on the front porch. And he's like, are you sure?
And I was scared to death, Like and I don't
get scared easily, because remember I've hiked a loan. No
I'm not saying I'm not bad, you know what, but
I don't get scared easily. And I went on that
front porch, you know, one step away from our front door,
and I was shaking like a leaf. And he looked
kind of panic too. My husband and we had the
front porch side and we're looking all around. It was
a full moon. We saw nothing and the smell was gone,
and I'm like, okay, let's go back and light quick
went back in, shut locked the door, and we're looking
at each other like what. He's like, I don't know.
Let's I don't talk about I don't talk about this.
Let's just let's just go in. And he's like, let's
not just glorify it. Let's just let's not give it
any power by talking about it. Is what it is.
You know, we both did the right thing forget about it.
So we did, and it continued. The jumping on the roof,
running across the roof at nighttime every when it got dark,
you know, he did. We had this giant, giinenormous, beautiful
pole bar and brand new concrete flooring. It was just
beautify and we didn't want to use it. He didn't
want to go out there at night. I didn't want
to him out there at night. I didn't even want
to go out there during the day. My biggest fear
was I wasn't going to be in that pole bar
and with that one door it had big garage doors,
but there's no need to always open them, especially if
it's cold, you know, And there's a lot of stuff.
I could have crafts and painting and stuff. I could
have been woodworking, I could have been doing. And I
didn't want to go in there because I was scared
that I was going to be in that pole barn
and something was going to come in that door behind
me and I was going to be trapped in there
with it, and I wouldn't be able to get out.
I wouldn't be able to The doors wouldn't work because
you can't see once you're in there. If something decides
to come in there with you, it's over. Even if
you shut the door, you know, the door didn't lock
that well. I don't even know if it locked the dogs.
I don't think we had a key. So we had
this beautiful barn we didn't want to use, and my
dog didn't want to sleep next to the window. And
then the last straw that broke the camel's back at
this place was this continued. If I was so sick
of it, I was getting totally peed off, like you're
messing with my dog now, and you're messing with my family.
It's one thing you want to harass me, but now
it's on Like I'm mad. I'm mad. So I heard
something at my window gently tapping, and I'm like, no,
forget this crap, no, I'm sick of this. And it
had been tapping on me back up. It had been
tapping at this window multiple times. And yes there was
a screen on that window, but it had been tapping
on it. And I got so sick of it. It
was like, I don't know, middle of two o'clock, three
o'clock in the morning, and or it might even been earlier.
I don't know, but those were the times between ten
tennis and eleven thirty and between two thirty and like
four point thirty. I don't know why was with those times,
but those are the times stuff always happened. So I'm like,
screw this, I'm sick of this, and forgive my language,
but I'm like, forget this. I'm so sick of this.
So I jumped up and my husband was half asleep,
and I jerked the curtain open, and I don't even
know what in the heck I was thinking, why why
would I think I'm not going to see something after
the experience is of bigfoot going through that may just
move our home that we loved and are a beautiful
piece of property. Do you were always in the yard fox?
You know, I had a pet skunk that would come
out of the woods. I'd feed popcorn, two cheese, popcorn,
gunk gloved. I mean, oh, I just love We love
the area. We take our kayaks to the end of
the road and right to the end of our road
and go kayaking. And I mean two minutes we're home
and we had to move. So I'm like, I don't
know why. I wouldn't think that something wouldn't be there,
Like I don't even know. I just the anger took over,
like I'm tired of you guys messing with me, Like
this is our house, this is our property, Like get lost,
you don't belong here. So I ripped that curtain open,
and yep, there was something there. There was two giant
eyeballs and they were as big as golf balls. No,
I have an average size woman's hand. They were from
the tip of the end of my finger without a
fingernail to the end of the palm of my hand,
so that's probably six inches seven inches across. And there
was big as golf balls when I just when I
described the color to my husban, He's like, oh, that's amber,
and I'm like, well, I really don't know what color
amber means. I described it as yellow, a glowing glowing
like stop light yellow to like a lime green almost
like I've seen some digital clocks that have that color,
and it was kind of like that. And okay, I
mean there was no light coming out of my window
in our bedroom. We had a night light in the
room that was in the bathroom a few feet away
at a barn sliding door in the bathroom, so it
was open, so it wasn't right there, so there was
no light illuminating out of the window to be reflecting
off of this thing's eyes. There was that night. Unfortunately,
there was no moon. It was pitch black outside. So
the eyes were like and they had a tiny bit
of almost like a very light brown, very light like
a honey oak brown right in the middle, but they're
mostly a lime green and yellow, and they seemed to
be glowing, like the eyes themselves were glowing. There was
no it was facing the window. Oh gosh, I would say,
I don't know, twelve inches from the window screen. If
that on the second level and looking at me, and
it was swaying back and forth. And the reason I
say swaying is because I could see the eyeballs together obviously,
like if it was you've seen an ocean wave. It
was going like way up and then way down, and
then way up and then way down. It seemed like
the whole situation, as I describe it, lasted like minutes. No,
it was fractions of seconds because as soon as I
saw what I saw, and I took a really good
look because I couldn't believe. I couldn't believe what I
was seeing. So I'm like looking really really hard, like, Okay,
I see eyeballs because like I said, my dad's training.
Do I see a body, anybody any Nope, pitch black,
I could. So whatever was out there was pitch black.
There was no There was nobody at all that I
could see. But those eyeballs were right outside that screen
on the second level of my window, and it was
going up and way down, a way up and way down.
And I watched it go like I said, way up,
started like it's almost like raised up higher, like oh crap,
there she is. I got excited, like way up and
then went way down, and then when it went way
up and it started to go way back down, I'm like,
I got so scared. I shut that curtain and I
twisted so fa fast to get away from that window.
I actually tore the meniscus in my knee. That's how
fast I jerked myself away from that window. And I
fell on the floor because I tore my knee. I
tore my knee, it's how fast I jerked away from
that window. And I was I was not about to
have another knee surgery, so I just had to deal
with it for three months with my barely could get
down the stairs, and I was sick of it. And
we went to sell the house and with my husband's like,
we're never gonna be able to sell this house. Look
at the roof, and I'm like, what are you talking
about the roof? He said, Gary, there is no shingles
when you start from the edge of this brick garden.
I mean this concrete garden mish wall right up against
you know, two feet from the house or whatever it was,
to your window. There's no shingles there. And he said,
I knew you didn't want me to, but I climbed
up on the roof, and I looked around and there
doesn't seem to be any other damage anywhere else. And
I'm like what. I'm like, that doesn't make any I'm like,
I'm gonna slow down, describe this all again. I'm like,
what's I mean? Like, what what are you talking about?
He's like, Okay, there are no He's like, I don't
know how else to put it. The shingles are gone,
It's all paper from the edge. Soon as you get
up on the roof and the gutter has bent, like
something grabbed it and pulled itself up. The shingles are
worn down and there's there's none there all the way
to your window. Only thing is shown is the paper
and a few shingles are worn off beat that little
nook with a two roofs meet on the second level
behind where your head is on the in the bed
on the second level, and I'm like, how is that
making any sense? He's like, I don't know. So we
had to file an insurance claim and get a brand
new roof. Eighteen thousand, nine hundred dollars for a brand
new roof. They went against our insurance claim and they
went Then the guys came out there. They said they
didn't speak English, so they had their interpreter. Their boss
companies like that, the guys are doing this, some of
them have. I couldn't even believe this. They were Hispanic,
but they were very hard workers. And they said, some
of these guys they are doing your roof. They don't
want to finish the job. I'm like, what why? It
was hot? It was summer and the summer, so I said,
why do they need a drink? They need to come
in cool off. I'm like, I can give them some ice,
cold water, lemonade or iced tea, whatever they need. They
can sit on the cat me. I'm like, they can
sid on our couch, cool off fan whatever. I can
bring a fan out there and plug. And they're like, no, no,
that's not the problem. They are scared. They're saying Diablo, diablo,
and I'm like diablo. I'm like whoa, I'm like devil
and they're like I'm like, no, we're not the devil.
He's like no, no, they're not saying you guys are me.
They're saying yeah. I'm like what do you Okay, slow down,
what are you talking about? He said, Look, he showed
me a picture with his phone, and I'm like, I
don't believe I just see this for myself. I don't
believe it. So I'm terrified of heights. But I climbed
up on the slaughter a few feet in the air,
just enough to peek over the six foot where the
roof is, and I took a picture of it with
my phone and I reached my arm up there, and
then I took a picture out my window. But it
is kind of through the screen and you can see
what looks like a canine a dog footprint kind of
like it melted the shingle, like it just started to
like the whole shingle. Is it melted, but like say,
say its foot was super super hot, like red hot,
and it stepped on the shingle and it kind of
burned its footprint like half almost fully almost one hundred percent,
like seventy five percent into the shingle. And they said
they want to know did you put your big your
big dog. You're big, They use some Spanish word for
my dog, and you rot weller up on the roof.
And I'm like, and I was laughing, I'm like, of course,
am I gonna get my dog up on them? I'm
like no, of course, not like what that's nuts? Why,
I'm like no, And I was laughing, and the guys,
they were like the Spanish guys, they were like talking
back and forth and they were shaking their heads like
no no, and I'm like no, I'm not I'm not
mean no, no no, and you know, and I'm like
you know, God, God, and I pointing, I'm like Jesus, no, no,
Like I'm trying to tell them we're not bad people,
because I didn't know if they thought we were into
some you know, witchcraft or crazy stuff or whatever. And
I was trying to tell them and the best Spanish
I could that it's not We're not bad people. It
wasn't us. We believe in God. And some of them
actually got in their car. A group of these guys,
I don't know how many, six maybe got in their
their vehicle and they left them. I'm like, where are
they going, and he's like they're they're they're leaving them. Well,
whoa wait a minute, they can't leave, and he said, well,
the other guys are staying. But it was only half
the crew and they finished the job. But that I
took pictures of the path worn down to my window,
and I took pictures of this melted dog print onto
the shingle, and I just I couldn't even believe it myself.
They even called the supervisor of the company, the roofing company,
to come out there and look at this, and he
was like, I don't know. He just kept saying, I
don't know, I don't know, just get the job done.
I don't know, I don't know. They're nuts, just they
have different cultures and beliefs, and he just kept trying
to blow it off, and he just kept looking at me,
and I'm like, look, we believe in the Lord. We
didn't We're not. We didn't doing anything crazy or nuts
here or no, no, we're not, So it's not us.
I don't know what happened. All I know is just
when you get fixed, and they knew we were selling
the house, and then they're like why you know, they said,
one of the Mexican guys wants to know, why are
you guys leaving? And I just said, you know, we
need a better place to live. I'm not gonna lie.
So we did. That was the truth, and we left
and we moved to Kentucky after that, and I don't
know if it was dog man or Bigfoot related. But
there were several incidences that happened there that just continued,
and that was that wasn't That might have been the
worst place we ever moved. It was a beautiful place,
a brand new home, beautiful home, I mean, beautiful piece
of property. It was like three acres something a little
over three acres on top of a like they call
it hills, but it was almost like a mountaintop to me,
and a haller is beautiful. Right across the street, literally
right across the street from our church, a country road,
close to everything, and we just that was one of
the worst places we ever lived. It was probably thirty
less thirty minutes from Mammoth Cave. I was probably not
a wise decision on our part. I didn't know it
was that close. I didn't know all the stuff that
had come out of that area. But we could not
get out of there fast enough. Two months within moving there,
so much stuff start happening, Saint sniffing at the window again,
jumping on the roof. I think it was a combination
of both. I don't know. I heard a roar one
night so loud behind my head. It almost sounded like
a lion and a dog. It was so loud my
pillow actually vibrated. I'm like, it was so bad. We
couldn't even get out of their fat our dogs. We
would let our dogs out to go to the bathroom
and they didn't need at least there wasn't any houses
close by. There was some, but not close by, and
they're smart enough to not go near the road. We'd
go to open the door and they'd stay in there.
I'm like, what are you doing, Like get out, go
to the bathroom, and they wouldn't go out. I have
to take my foot and like push them out. They
wouldn't even go out, and then they run right back.
I mean like, I'm like, you did you go to
the bathroom? Like she one of my dogs, my little pitbulls,
she'd played off like she went potting, and she'd run
back in. And that's not like them. So we were
there ten months and we couldn't not get out of
there fast enough, and we moved to I'm like, I
cannot believe we have to move again, Like this is this.
I can't this, I cannot deal with this. I'm literally
going to have a mental breakdown, Like I'm not sleeping
my animals don't want to go outside. We have this
forty foot long deck, beautiful covered deck on the back
porch with the hot tub, and we can't even go
out there. Like I don't even want to go out there.
My dogs don't want to go out there, Like I can't.
I wanted to have a garden. I can't have a garden. Like,
we got to get out here. So we moved again
this and I'm like, this is the last time we
can move, Like we're literally gonna be out of money
each move to get to rent the truck, to get
the movers to load your stuff up in the truck,
we had to pack our own stuff, which is not easy.
It's it's it is not easy to pack your own
stuff when you realize how much crap you got, and
then you've got to pay your movers to unload your
stuff and put it in the house, and then to
rent the trucks and then the gas You're talking depending
on where you're moving, Oh, a minimum of three to
four thousand dollars each time you move. And I'm like,
this is the last time we can move. We will
literally have no savings that have left, and if anything
happens we could be homeless, like, we don't have any
anybody to like, I just have kids, like they're you know,
they don't then they're all in their mid twenties. My
one dollars in her thirties, Like we don't have and
she has got six kids. So we don't have family
to turn to you to ask for like, hey, can
you pay a mortgage or you know whatever. It's not
like that. So I'm like, this is the last house.
And well, let me back up a little bit. In Kentucky,
right before we left, my husband when he could take
the dogs that right, he would take them out. He
wouldn't even take them out at dark. Now in the
winter time it gets dark easy, I mean early, like
six o'clock, he would, you know, six thirty he had
to take them out, it like right before the edge
of the edge of dark. And he got to the
point where like he wouldn't even go out at dark either,
he didn't want to. He would start healing, hearing growls
like mean growls. Dogs wouldn't go out at dark. And
when we got ready to move, right before we started
packing up to move, I started feeling like I would say,
about two months end up putting the house up for
sale we had that we couldn't even afford a realtor.
We'd sell it ourselves. And I started feeling like, if
we don't get out of here right now, something is
definitely going to happen to us. Like we have to go,
Like we just got to pick something. That's all the
main hardware stuff has been done, and we got to go.
And the best place I can figure is where we
don't want to be in a neighborhood. We're always country
people like to have our little spot of land. We've
always lived like that. But I'm like, I'm figuring if
we're in a neighborhood, they're not going to come. They're
not going to come. So we I'm like, and we
we gotta go now like something. And I literally said,
if we don't go like immediately, like and I mean,
like as fast as we can, something's going to happen.
So we did. We would. Within a month of putting
the house up for sale, maybe month and a half,
we sold it and as soon as the people bought
the house, we got out of there. The people that moved,
believe it or not, from Olympia, Mount Olympia and the
state of Washington, believe it or not, and they moved
because of guess why, bigfoot encounters. They were havy and
a couple that was in their late sixties and they
had a daughter that lived with them. Well, I got
a call less than twelve days after them buying the house.
I missed the call voicemail. The lady. She was frantic.
I couldn't understand her voicemailing. She's like, he's dead. He's dead.
And I'm like, what, who's dead? What are you talking about?
She's like, Dave, my husband, he died. I'm like, what
are you talking about? She's like he was babbling. He
went outside in the evening to get something out of
his car, and he was babbling, mumbling something about seeing
some kind of creature. All I could understand was dog ears.
I don't know, I couldn't understand what you say him.
So I took him to the hospital, thinking he was
having some kind of mental breakdown because he was a military,
retired military. Maybe I thought something like that had affected him.
Next thing I knew, he was in a coma. They
hadn't go out in the waiting room. I come back,
he's in a coma, and a few hours later he
dies and they don't They can't give me any cause
of death. They don't even know. It's like undetermined. And
she's like, I don't even know how to if I
can even get insurance because it says undetermined and without
some kind of cause of death, I can't even get
insurance money to survive. So I don't even know what
I'm gonna do. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm
like so sorry, and she's like, do you know what
he saw what he's talking about. I didn't know what
to say to her, and I'm like no, I'm like
not really so but I did tell her that I
thought some Bigfoot related things were happening around there before
I sold the house to her, so I would have
a clear conscience. But I don't know what happened. But
I know that that man died less than twelve days
after buying the house from us, and we met him,
talked to him. He was in the garage. We let
them move their stuff in early and the garage as
we were moving out. The since we moved here, then
we got when we moved here Middle Indian and know
which in a neighborhood, it's an older neighborhood at the
end of our street two houses away. We're in a
try level. If you look out the kitchen window, you
can see the end of our street. Well, the first night,
first one or two nights we were here, might have
been second night, we heard two big mudballs hit the
front of the house. And I know they were mudballs
because my husband went out there and sack the next
day and it's a woodhouse on the top level and
I'm like, what the heck was that? And he's like,
I don't know, and I'm like, are you freaking kidding me?
He went outside and looked the next day and saw it,
and I knew that it was a big foot's telling me, hey,
we're here, like it was a game of hide and seek,
Like where you gonna move next? Cause we can find you.
Where are you gonna go next? Like it became a game.
And they started sitting by the bedroom window when we
sleep in the lower half of the house, which is
like a basement type finished basement wreck room areas, got
fireplace and stuff. We made their bedroom. So the window
is right, Mike, I don't know, neck high, and it's
a it's a it's not like a normal basement window.
It's a big it's pretty good sized window long. And
I felt and heard them sitting by the window. And
they have talked to me in my head two or
three times before, so when I heard them, I could hear.
There's gravel under our deck, which is twelve feet in
the air on the tri level, the top half where
the kitchen is. And I heard them in the gravel
like sitting by the window. And I heard them like
a little tap tap on the window. And I know
that tap tap, I've heard it before since twenty sixteen,
since Tennessee. So I'm like, oh, no, why are you here?
And I felt the energy shift in the air, like
totally change. And it's not the type of fear some
of these bigfoots can put off a fear like that.
And those are the ones I think that are not
in like a family group or tribe. Those are like
the rogue ones that get kind of kicked get kicked
out because they're not doing what they're supposed to be doing,
and they're they're hurting people. Because they did tell me before,
there's some good some bad, so I believe they are
the bad ones, but I just did not feel like that.
So I said, why are you here? In my head,
and I heard an answer saying, we are here. This
is how they talk, We are here. We are here
protecting you from the wolves. They didn't call a dog man,
they called it wolves. So I kind of chuckled and
I said out loud. I don't know, I might have
set it in my head wolves. There's no wolves here.
I'm like, in a neighborhood mid Indiana, there's no wolves here. Like,
what the heck you're talking about? And I'm like, okay, Carrie,
you gotta be making all us up. That's okay. You're
just thinking all this that's happening. So the next night,
it's a beautiful fall evening. My dog, since we've always
lived in the country, he was socialized in the beginning.
He loves people that he knows, but he's not dog
friendly because he's not used to being around dogs. So
I was walking him into evening after everybody else got
done walking their dogs in the neighborhood. And I've already
told everybody, and they're nice. They text me, Hey, we're
walking our dog, and I'll let them know when I'm
walking my guy. Every respectfully of each other, and I'm like, look,
he loves you know, he's nice to friendly to people.
They're nice to me. But he doesn't like dogs. He's
not gonna attack him, but he just doesn't like him.
He's in the bark and be really loud. So everybody
was done and walking him about forty thirty to forty
five minutes before dark, beautiful cool fall evening. It's a
full moon. It's just beautiful. And at the end of
the street, it's a dead end. It's kind of like
a round like a big round about cut out circle.
It's all gravel, heavy, heavy woods, and then it backs
up to a big wide creek that goes into the
Wabash River. So I get down there. This is this
is probably the craziest of them all. This is where
it's really I knew that these these dogmen or dog
wolves or whatever, that they were one hundred percent reel,
just as real as the bigfoots. So I get down
there and I have my phone in my hand because
I just got My husband was like, Okay, since all
this is going on again, we don't know what's going
to happen next. We're in a neighborhood. I want you
to keep your phone in your hand. In case something happens,
so you can call them me or text me for help.
And he keeps looking at the window, watching because he's like,
he's all this has changed his life, dude. He's like
paranoid every time I leave the house without him, So
he's watching in and out, running out the front door, peeking,
because you can literally if you walk in the ender
of our driveway, it's about a football field full football
field length away from our house to where I was
straight shot. We are on a hill, but the neighborhood
you drive up a hill and then it completely flattens
out where our neighborhood is. It's a pretty decent sized neighborhood.
Houses have been here since late seventies, eighties, some little
bit before that. You know, everybody houses are pretty spread out.
Everybody's got their own little space. Nice neighborhood, quiet. Everybody's
very very nice here and respectful. So I get down there,
and of course I have my dog in the leash,
and I'm like, wow, I'm just I'm sitting there. I
love I just love the woods. I love nature. We
have bird feeders up everywhere. I love birds. I just
love trees, anything to do with nature, like I could
literally live outside if I could deal with the cold.
But I just love the so I just love it.
And I get down there and all of a sudden,
I I'm looking and I'm just admiring the trees and
a beautiful orange sunset, and all of a sudden, my
dog starts his chain is all his leash is loose,
and it just tightens up like thing, and he starts
growling this meanest growl, and I'm like, oh no, and
he's looking at the hair grass I don't whatever you
want to call it. It's like kind of goes down
into like a little like I'm I'm in a cut
about cut a round about gravel there, and it kind
of goes down the hillside maybe I don't know, six feet.
I mean I could walk down it sideways easily, you know.
And then it kind of smooths out the dirt and
there's tall hey there about waist high, and it's pretty thin.
It's fall. Everything's dead, you know, it's meaning to be wintertime.
We moved here at the end of September, so it's
still it hasn't got super cold yet, so it's probably
like the beginning of October. And he starts growling, and
I'm like, and he is dead locked onto something like
he will not take his focus off. I'm trying to
turn his head like it's okay, buddy, it's just a squirrel,
it's just this, and he is like, I cannot He's
like a solid concrete statue. I cannot move this dog.
And I'm telling him it's okay. And I'm looking and
I'm squinting, and I see nothing. And then all of
a sudden, I see this big light up in the
trees in the woods. It looks like a floating lantern
and it gets really big and then really small, and
I'm like, what the heck? Then and I'm like, okay,
I got to take a picture of this. So as
I'm taking a picture, but my dog's still growling, and
all of a sudden, I feel myself being surrounded in this.
I'm at the end of this roundabout looks like a
big round like a circle, like a circle, driveway, the
end of a neighbor, like a I don't describe it.
I guess you got the picture roundabout. We turn around
kind of area. Well, he's still growling, and I'm taking
get my phone out and I'm trying to film. This
floating lantern looking light up in the trees, looks like
it's got to be twenty feet in the air. And
I'm like, what the heck. And all of a sudden,
I see this little orb fly by me, and I'm like, okay, well,
that's got to be a bug, you know. And then
I did see a bug fly by me. Well, you
can see the outline, you can see like a round ball,
and you can see which looks like a big dragon
fly in the middle of it, so you can clearly
see the bug. It's probably them off. But then I
see all these orbs start shooting out of the ground,
like coming directly out of the ground and out of
the weeds, and they're surrounding me there, and I'm like,
what the heck. I'm like, okay, that's not a bug.
And then there's another and another and another, and meanwhile,
remember these I didn't know at the time what I
was about to see. After I took the pictures, my
dog was still growling. I'm still feeling myself being surrounded
by something very very fearful that I should be. I'm
in fear of my life of in these weeds. And
it did happen very very quickly. All of this seems
like I said took foreverybody. It wasn't. It was only
maybe two or three minutes time. And I'm intrigued by
this light and these orbs. So I'm filming this and
I am literally filming these orb balls flying around me. Well,
they start circling my whole body and they start shooting
underneath my arms, so I stick my arms out to
this sides and they start going around me. I saw
this video of a bee lady one time, and she
stuck her arms out and her whole body was covered
in bees. That's kind of what it looked like. There
were so many of them. They were swirling around my
entire body that I could get on my camera from
my knees, you know, up as far as I could
film with my phone, and around my arms, going underneath
my arms. I'm like, what the heck is happening right now?
Like what like this can't even be real. I'm like
laughing because I just can't even believe that this is real.
And then I started like, okay, you got and I'm
still filming this. This lantern or this lantern like looks
like the size of a big lantern. Up in the trees.
I'm still filming. I'm filming that, and I'm filming these
orbs going around me. And they're not bugs. They're definitely
orbs because there's no you can see. There's there're a clear,
uh like a tissue paper white. Some of them have
like a very pretty ice blue huge to them, and
that those are the only some of them. Let me
back up. Some of them have a little bit of
a greenish, pretty green, pretty green like emerald light, emerald
color green to them, very very light of emerald green.
And I'm filming that, and I'm like, okay, this is
too much. I gotta go. So I got enough. I'm like, okay,
I got enough on film and camera and pictures. It's
time to go. So I took picture. I'm like, wait
a minute, I got to snap some pictures of these
weeds because I know this dog, and I know that
he hates squirrels and he hates crows and that's the
only two hang ups he has. And so I know
that he doesn't bark or grouse or growl unless it's
like this mean, unless there's something really there, he just
doesn't do that. So I start taking pictures as many
pictures as I can, and everywhere I'm blowing. I'm like
taking my and I'm not good with stuff with the phone,
so I'm taking my fingers and making the picture biggers
or whatever. I'm taking a picture of it to be
closer up and farther away, and every way I know
how to do. I take all these pictures, and I'm like, Okay,
it's time to go. I know not to run, but
I know I'm surrounded, but I'm still standing in the
gravel at the edge of this little roundabout. So I
start walking away and I maybe forty five feet down
this little you know, the end of my dead end street.
You could I could see my house. It's nobody's around
because it's almost dark. Now, Well, this is the part
I kind of well, this is one of the parts.
This is one of many parts. I don't understand. It's
not dark yet. It's still light, but you can see
the sun the starting, you know, set its beginning to
be dark soon. So all of a sudden, there's a field, uh,
probably a two acre field, and it's two acres like parallel,
well like long ways, not straight back, not like if
you're from your chest straightforward, like long ways I guess
it's vertical. I don't know, but long ways, so I
see all of a sudden, he's too deer bust out
of the tree line because it's just a clear and
for some reason, this grass wasn't dead. It was beautiful,
like greenish emerald colored grass. And it was only like
maybe a little bit higher shin hai, you know, not
even up to your knees, just shinnhai. Beautiful green grass.
And that's all there was. And then there was a
tree line in the back thick woods. All of a sudden,
it's too deer, big deer, I don't even know if
the antlers or not, bust out of the woods. I
think there were two big does. They're big deer just
just explode out of the tree line. And I still
have my phone in my hand because of what just happened,
and I still have it on ready to take pictures.
And they bust of the woods. Well, all of a sudden,
it happened so quick. My dog didn't have time to
do anything and I neither were looking at the deer
and we're like, what the heck? Like that was kind
of weird. And then they turn around and they look
backwards and I see what they're looking at. And all
of a sudden, this thing that is about seven and
I'm just estimating it could have been a little taller,
but it wasn't shorter. About seven and a half feet tall,
solid black shadow. I could see no like I couldn't
see eyes or I couldn't see color skin. It was
a shadow, but it was a perfectly outlined shadow. It
had a giant It had a giant roundish head like
a dog, like a dog round woolf head, like perfectly round.
And it had short but tall, pointy straight up they
weren't flopped over, straight up ears on the top of
its head, just like a dog would have. And I
saw and I'm like, what the heck? Like, I kept squinting,
thinking I was seeing things, and the deer are looking
at this thing, and then they're looking at me, and
they're looking at this thing, and they're looking at the
woods and they're looking at this thing and they're just
like standing there like they don't know what to do
or where to go. And I'm looking at them and
looking at this creature, and I'm looking at my own dog,
like what is happening right now? And then before I
had a chance to do anything. This swirly dust ball,
it almost looks like an Arizona one of these big
dust clouds you see dirt clouds you see appears in
the air, midair, probably about four feet off the ground.
It's probably about four feet wide and four feet tall.
And this is just a guesstimate. I mean I could
be off a few inches, but I mean, who cares
at this point is crazy enough? So and it's like
swirling round. I can see it swirling round and around around.
And this thing has arms like now I was trying.
It's not arms like big films. It's arms like a
like a young woman arms. When I say that, like
toned arms, but not like super muscular, kind of skinny
and thin. But you can see like the bicycle. I
could literally see an outline of the bicep on their
on the arms, and the I don't I forget what
you call the lower muscles on their forearms. I could
see those kind of like tensed up. And I could
see hands but remember it's a black shadow, but I
could literally see hands and fingers, and I could see
legs and they had big thighs, muscular thighs, but knobby
knees exactly like I saw back in Upper Indiana that
ran by me. And I'm like, oh my gosh, that
is exactly what I saw run by me in an
Upper Indiana. So this thing reaches out and it tries
to grab this ball. It puts it like a bear hug.
It leans over just a little bit, hunches forward, and
it takes both arms and wraps it around this big
dust ball swirling in the air, and tries to grab
it like bear hug it. And then it looks back
at these two deer. And I look back at these
two deer, and these two deer just boot fall over.
They just drop like a sack of rocks. I mean
they and their legs are sticking straight out like if
you've ever picked up a turtle and you flip it over,
and its legs they just boot stick straight out and
they're frozen solid like a you know, like turtle legs
stuck out like that. Well, that's what the deer legs
were doing. They were just stuck straight out as stiff
as could be. I'm probably, gosh, I don't know, like
an acre, not even an acre length away. I wouldn't
even say a full an acre away from this clear view.
Only thing that was in the way was not even
shine high grass. The woods are behind all of this
going on. Well, my dog is like he's not even
growling yet because it happened so quick. We're we're like, okay, this,
then that, this, then this, the that, the this, the that.
There was so much going on, like we were our
heads are going back and forth like we're watching a
flipping tennis match, like we didn't even know what to
look at next. So then the deer are still laying there.
They're laying there, and I could I was close enough.
I would I don't know I could. I would have
to go there and measure, but I was close enough
where I could see the deer's sides going up and down,
breathing like like breathing fast, like like hyperventilating breathing like
if you're breathing take deep breasts, and I can literally
see the sides of their ribcage going up and down.
So they were they were still breathing, but like like
but quickly. So I look back at this thing, be
cause I'm definitely not taking my eyes off this, and
I'm taking pictures of this, and got my phone out
the whole time, and I'm just snapping as many pictures
in every way. I'm not looking down at my phone,
and I can promise you that, But I had my
phone pointed right at this. I looked down when I
first started it and took one picture of the deer
and took one picture of this and held my phone
and I just move my phone back and forth because
I was not taking my eyes off this thing, and
it was close. I was close enough where it wanted me.
It could have definitely got me easily. But I can't
run where, And I mean, what am I gonna do
with Marty right there? I have no weapon on me,
so I don't even think a weapon would have done
any good. So when it starts to grab harness this ball,
the more it starts to reach over and really bear
a hug tightly this ball the moor, it starts to
become a solid object. When I say solid, it was
already a solid black object. But the more it starts
to become like where I could be able to start
start vaguely in and out seeing I want to say features,
but I don't know how to word it. Like it
was becoming more not a shadow, I guess is the
only way to word it, and then this dustball would
start to get smaller and smaller and smaller and almost
start to dissipate, and then it would become more of
a transparent It was a shadow, but I could barely
could I could barely see through it. But the more
this swirling dustball would almost completely disappear, the more this
tall creature, this dog like creature, would start to become
more transparent of a black shadow. And the more that
it would then the dustball would get big again, and
it would lean forward, like really really far forward, and
reaches arms where I can see shoulders and really try
to bare hug it tight. It would become more solid
of a creature. And this went on, back and forth,
back and forth, and finally the crazy part is I
don't know what happened because I don't I don't know
if I was just so scared, I don't remember. But
I walked away. I started walking away. I get home.
I have all these pictures, And the crazy part is
in the beginning of this it looks really daylight. But
then at the end of these pictures, after I took
a crapload of pictures and you can see these. You
can see all listen to pictures, and yes, it's a
little bit blurry, and I don't know if that's because
my hand's shaking and I can't get my camera focused
or what. But you can make out the pointy years,
and you can make out the two deer, you know,
and you could, I don't know if you can see
the dustball or not a little bit. You can see
something whitish there air or light colored. But at the
end of the pictures it goes from pretty light like that,
you know, not all the way dark outside, to almost
pitch black. And I'm like, I wasn't staying there that long,
Like how could it be like so light one second
and then the next second at my pictures from the deer,
from the deer situation that happened to this creature it
being almost pitched black Like I wouldn't be I would
first of all, I wouldn't stood there that long, like
I mean, it can't. It can't go from light time
to day dark time, like in like four or five minutes,
not that quick. But in my pictures it looks like
it did. So that's the part that got me kind
of stumped. I don't I don't understand that part but
I went home and then I thought, oh my gosh,
that's what this big foot was telling me. It's protected
me from the woes, like and then I looked at
the pictures and I see dog heads are wolf heads.
I don't even know what they are, hell hounds, wolf heads,
dog heads, I don't know. In this grass, there's different ones.
One's a solid black, hard to tell how big they are.
I don't know, one medium size, and one has white eyeballs,
like white glowing eyeballs, and the and they're like I'm close.
I'm less than l ten fifteen feet away. Someone there
at twelve feet from these creatures doing face to face.
They're in like tall dead hay grass, so there's not
a bunch of junglely vines or stuff obstructing the view,
just very very sparse, I mean, very thin hay grass
right there that's dead. And there's another one that's like
uh like uh like a color of a coyotes, like
a brown, like a woody brown, like a light tenish brown.
And then I looked in the back behind the two
smaller ones and I saw the big, big daddy. This
sucker was big, like he's as big as my SUV's
head just a picture looks as big as my SUV
seat that I sit on, maybe maybe bigger. And he's
he's you can see color. You can see like brownish brown,
like German shepherd colors, and he and I don't know
what it is. It doesn't look like a normal dog.
It doesn't look like a normal wolf. It doesn't look
like a human. It looks kind of like a mix
between a dog and a wolf. But the crazy part
is I was staring at that grass so that hey
is so hard and I could not see them and
where they're at and this dead stuff. I should have
been one hundred able to see them because there's no
jungly green stuff in between. The hay isn't thick enough,
it's very thin. I should have been able to see them,
and I could not see them with my naked eye.
They only showed up on camera. And that's when all
these light orbs started surrounding me. And I don't know
what they were, but it seems like they were engulfing
my body and protecting me from these from these things
getting me. But I don't I don't know what these
orbits were. And there was a big orb like a
lantern in the trees, oh probably, oh gosh, one hundred
and fifty yards from me, about twenty feet in the air,
dead center right in front of me. Went all this
right before second, like two or three seconds before. My
dog started growling, and I started feeling myself surrounded, and
then all these orbs started just shooting out of the
ground and everywhere surrounding me. But it was just so
much going on. Like I got home, I was so overwhelmed.
I just sat there like, oh my gosh, like and
he's like something happened and I'm like yes, and I'm like,
I just I need a minute. And I showed him
the pictures and he's like, oh my god, look at
only crap. What is Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh,
what are these pictures? And I'm like, I don't even
I just need a minute to look like it. Can't
even look right now. And then when I looked at him,
I immediately saw it too, and I was just like,
how could I not see this? How could I not
see this with my own eye? But I just couldn't.
And I do believe that. I don't know if they
were bigfoots protecting me like they said, I don't know
if they were, you know, angels protected me. I don't
know what they were, but they I believe that they
protected me from these definitely definitely from these, from these things.
And yeah, that's that's that's about all so far. I
haven't really since then. I don't walk down there anymore.
The crazy part is that I feel very wrong to
go down there. And I don't know if it's just
my curiosity or what, but I feel like you have
to go down there, like come on, come on, come on,
but I don't. I try not to, and if I do,
I just go at the very beginning, I don't go
all the way down there, and it was just a
beautiful spot, but that's that's kind of ruined again for me.
So I just do. When I walk my dog, I
do a different walk around the neighborhood. I mean, it's
kind of sad because I feel these creatures are trying
to take away any enjoyment that I have out of life.
And people will say, well, don't let them, don't let them. Well,
if you see a big wolf looking thing that's not
supposed to exist, I mean it's easier said than done.
Are you gonna walk right up to it. I mean
maybe some people would. I mean, I mean, kudos to them.
They got really good faith. I mean I have faith too,
but I guess not that strong because I just I
can't do that. I just don't want to do that.
I'm not ready to check out yet. I mean, I don't.
I don't push it because I feel like I've been
blessed so far. But you know, that's where we're at
right now, So I just I don't know. It's wintertime,
it's cold, not a lot going on anymore because it
is so cold here. So I just hope that as
soon as it starts to get warm, but it stops.
But I don't think it will because it's been nine
years and it hasn't stopped yet. So that is my story.
Speaker 2: Well here's to hoping that it does stop. I mean,
that's just horrible, all these experiences you've had. No one
should have to go through half of those experiences, but
unfortunately you have.
Speaker 3: Carrie.
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of questions to ask you about
these experiences. But we've gone so long that would you
be willing to come back for a part too?
Speaker 3: Of course?
Speaker 2: Oh good, that's what we'll do. Then I'll have you
back next week and I'll have some questions for you
about these experiences.
Speaker 3: In absolutely, one hundred percent yes, I welcome any questions
because you might even open my mind to something that
I haven't thought about yet, So I yeah, I want
the questions because it'll help me understand this more.
Speaker 2: Oh, anyway that it's going to help you is a
good thing and also to you, the more you talk
about it easier it's going to be to think about
these experiences. So it's really a win win, it really is.
Speaker 3: Absolutely yes, sir, thank you.
Speaker 2: Oh no, you're welcome. Well. Having said that, Kirie, thanks
again for coming on and sharing those experiences with us,
and we'll catch you next week.
Speaker 1: Them Erst English