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Speaker 1: It's always important to explain the why of things, and

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the way of Starship is that we want to be

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a multiplanet species, to extend consciousness beyond Earth.

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Speaker 2: I think for two main reasons.

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Speaker 1: One is to ensure the long term survival and prosperity

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of life as we know it in consciousness, which if

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we are a multiplanet species and ultimately a multi stellar

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species out there among the stars, the probability of survival

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is much much longer. That's kind of the defensive aspect

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or life insurance for life collectively. But then there's also

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there also need to be things that are inspiring and

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exciting and that give you reason to live. Life cannot

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just be about solving one tragic problem after another. There

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must be also reasons to get up in the morning

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and be excited about the future. And a future where

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we are a space for civilization is infinitely more exciting

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than one where we are not.

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Speaker 2: And we're doing it all pretty unique location.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the pads behind us, we got rocket on

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the tower, we got another tower right that we're sitting

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inside star Factory, and I mean it wasn't like this

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for very long.

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Speaker 2: This is all pretty brand now.

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Speaker 4: I think we've moved Starship here in about the early

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part of twenty nineteen, so we've been coming that entire

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time and seeing the site of all from a double

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wide trailer and a tent where we built Starhopper to

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the first suborbital test flights, and now we have behind

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us two towers for the first time as we built

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towards the first operational flight from the second tower at

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the end of this year, and this beautiful building, million

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square feet where we're able to work towards a production

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line of starships.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the SpaceX team, it's one an incredible job of

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building out really the most advanced rocket manufacturing facility that

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has ever existed. This is far beyond any rocket fabrication

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facility that has ever been built.

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Speaker 2: This is essentially.

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Speaker 1: Alien level technology and it was well built here basically

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down by the Rio Grande River and close to the beach.

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a sand bar. I think we're about you know, three

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feet or about a meter above sea level, so.

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Speaker 2: It really was nothing.

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Speaker 1: If you see the time lapse from a sand bar

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to two launch towers and a gigantic rocket factory with

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high bays and we're gonna be building something called the Gigabay,

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which is like one of the largest enclosed volumes on Earth.

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cube that we're gonna be building here for yeah, building

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and storing these gigantic rockets. It's really spectacular and anyone

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can come and visit. So the because we're on a

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public highway and we're literally by a public beach, you

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can actually come and see the rocket. You can quite

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close up. I mean you can drive past it, and

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you can also look at the factory, and anyone could

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do this from anywhere in the world.

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Speaker 2: So if just you can come and visit and check

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Speaker 3: I think it's pretty cool that it's just now, right now, just.

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Speaker 2: Right, just know what we're launching, because there's some safety issues.

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Speaker 1: The rockets often just just sitting on the pad without

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any palant in it.

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Speaker 2: And then you can just you can just come here

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and visit. It's very easy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a really special place. Yesterday the

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ship went down the road behind us and I saw

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families outside going for there, or was on Sunday going

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for their Sunday stroll. And they were greeted by Starship

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going down. And I think that from the very beginning.

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The thing about Starship different than Falcon and other rockets

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that I'm aware of is we designed it to be

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mass produced and mass produced at scale. And it's not

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about building one starship and getting to orbit once. It's

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about doing it in a sustained and rapid way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean for ultimately thousands of shifts to be built

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per year, which is what's needed in order to construct

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a city on Mars that is self sustaining. And the

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major fork in the road of destiny will be when

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the Mars city is capable of surviving even if the

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re supply ships from Earth stopped coming for any reason,

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and that reason could be something cataclysmic, or it could

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be that that civilization simply subsided. There's always this debate

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throughout history of will civilization and with a bang or whimper,

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but either way, if the critical thing is to get

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which means that you need to build an entire base

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of industry on Mars in order for Mars to survive.

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For example, it's not simply enough to build a chip,

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you know, like a computer, like a computer chip factory,

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but you need the ability to build computer chip factories.

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of tonnage. My guess is at least a million tons

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one which will ensure the long term survival and prosperity

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of life and consciousness. And it's the critical stepping stone

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to get from this solar system to other star systems

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and perhaps go out there and explore and paths will

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encounter alien civilizations that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they're alive now, but or maybe.

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Speaker 1: They enjoyed a period of prosperity for millions of years.

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And it also died out millions of years ago. So

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it's humbling to think of the age of the universe,

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according to the standard model of physics, being approximately thirteen

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point eight billion years old, So an incremental million years

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would ownly would be three digits past decimal point. And

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if you look at say our civilization and measure civilization

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by the first evidence of writing, which is about fifty

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five hundred years ago. Civilization as measured from the first

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writing is only one millionth of boths.

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Speaker 2: Existence or blip, yeah, flashing the pan.

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Speaker 3: So far, well, we're getting some cool shots rocking down

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on the pattern right now. We tell people like, come

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down see it. It's hard to get like a sense of

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scale of just how massive this thing is. And we

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while ago, and like part of the reason you said

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person working at the bottom of the ship, and as

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we zoom out you see the full ship that sort

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of two tone silver and black, and then the booster

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below it, right, and it really sets the scale which

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doesn't come across I think other than in person. And

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think you can see there and with the factory shots

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you saw earlier, again it's we've got flight ten on

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the pad, but we got many more behind it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's I posted a video yesterday of just

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a brief scan of part of the Starship factory and

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I guess we could talk a bit about.

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Speaker 1: Why Starship is the way it is, and like, for example, walk,

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it is silver colored? And that's because the bottom half

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of the ship, of the bottom as scene from obital entry,

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has a heat shield on it. So the black there

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is the is the heat shield. And then the core

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and that's where you see the sort of shiny silver

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parts are stainless steel. The reason for steel over aluminum

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heat of the rocket engines is enough to melt easily

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melt aluminum. But steel is much more resilient against both

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scent heating but especially the re entry heating.

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Speaker 2: And you don't have to paint.

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Speaker 1: It, which is actually very difficult at to paint a

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large object that is going through crygenic cycles and have

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Speaker 3: It's quite challenging, and so we've talked about it.

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Speaker 2: It's massive.

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come in. Most advanced engine on the planet. Yes, now

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that's the last saber and a half.

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Speaker 1: You would get vaporized in an instant if you were

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standing in front of Rafter So yeah, bunto Crispin in

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orbital rocket, you have to advance the state of the

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engines have to be better than any engine ever. The

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structure has got to be better than any structure ever.

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Speaker 2: You've got to you've got to have a.

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Speaker 1: Means of bringing the rocket back to the launch pad.

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and that no one has ever made.

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Speaker 2: A fully reusable orbital heat shield.

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between flights. So the Space Shuttle heathield come back essentially

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partially broken and would require many months of refurbishment in

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order to fly again. What we're trying to achieve here

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the launch stand and the ship the ship's got it

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the new people get on, and it leaves. You don't

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then tow it over to the jetway, so it's just

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Speaker 2: The whole thing is reusable.

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that that fully reasonable heat shield, that thing that has

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are thousands of engineering challenges that remain

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for both the ship and the Booster, but the single, uh,

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maybe the single biggest one is the reasonable optal heat shield.

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Were all confident in making a fully reasonable opal heat shield,

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but it will require many flights, many iterations to figure

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out where the weak points are in the heat shield

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where we need to change the design, either strengthening the

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tile or change or changing the the thing, how big

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the gap is between tiles, changing what's underneath the tile. Uh,

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there's there's a there's a you know, one hundred different

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variables that we could tweak with the with the ship,

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the ship tiles, the heat of heat shield tiles. But

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the only way to know is exactly what we should

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be adjusting is to fly repeatedly and be able to

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examine the ship upon landing. And we have successfully brought

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the ship back through the atmosphere and achieved a soft

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landing multiple times, so we know that this is possible.

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But we have in the process shed many heat shield tiles.

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So we need to be able to do this without

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shedding heat shield tiles and.

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Speaker 2: Do so repeatedly.

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Speaker 4: And I think what you're seeing now is the starship.

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the tower, much like the Booster, but there's some additional

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challenges there where we need to make sure we don't

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scrape the tiles off as we slide along the which we.

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Speaker 2: Can't shuck the heat shield, don't crush the ship. Ability

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we shocked if we.

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Speaker 1: Shock the shuck the tiles, then that's obviously going to

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fail to re useability test.

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Speaker 4: So ships can use the tower to land and catch

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like the booster here on Earth where towers are available,

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and for our initial landings on Mars and other plant

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and it's only landing legs that deploy, much like what

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you're seeing here with Ship fifteen. When we did our

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suborbital test to prove out the precision descent landing, which

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was a successful test. We actually landed to one was

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it We were able to actually recover it, and it's

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you can see it here in the rocket garden if

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you visit Starbase.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the rocket garden that that Bill mentioned, we

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have actually a whole bunch of boosters and ships and

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we'll be adding to them of a time, so you

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can see an evolution of Starship just by driving down

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the highway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So reusability is key.

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Speaker 3: There's some other technologies we're still looking to prove out.

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Really big one is going to be the on orbit refilling.

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Looking to do that next year, and that's really what's

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going to kind of unlock you know, Starship going everywhere else,

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going everywhere everywhere beyond Earth and that's something that's again

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never been done before, kind of like that reusable orbital

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heat shield. But it's going to be something that that's

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kind of some of the other secret sauces Starship. Where

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were going to be able to send hundreds of tons

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per ship to Mars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I like to think of it as if we get

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to orbit with a full cargo bay, but we're empty

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on fuel and oxygen, so basically we're running on fumes.

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Then we send other ships to dock transfer propellant, and

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now we made our two stage rocket look like many

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many multi stage rocket, and we get all that performance

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and we can take that full cargo bay now wherever

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we want to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So a crucial technology that we hope to demonstrate extra

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is this orbital refilling.

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Speaker 2: Much like aerial refueling.

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Speaker 1: It's essential for being able to send significant payload to Mars.

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So you essentially send you send a ship to orbit

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with a few hundred tons of payload. It's sort of

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a fulled payload bay, but the once it gets to orbit,

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the tanks we mostly empty, and then you send up

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additional tanker ships to refill the mass ships tanks so

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that when it can thrust from Earth orbit to Mars

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and have enough propellant left for landing, So this is

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orbital refilling. Is also not something that's ever been demonstrated before,

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so that would be a brand new technology. We have

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we abously have at SpaceX figured out how to dock

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repeatedly with the space station. So in a lot of ways,

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this is like docking, and in some ways it's easier

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in that we're the ship where SpaceX is docking with

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its with its own craft. But no one has ever

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demonstrated propellant transfer in orbit to the best amount knowledge,

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and and so this would be propellent transfer at a

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very large scale, and but with full reusability and propellant transfer.

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We those are the key technologies needed for building a

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city on Mars. And I'm confident that the SpaceX team,

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which is incredibly talented, will achieve this these goals, and

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we will be landing ships on Mars in the future

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and building life on Mars, building greenhouses and life on Mars,

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and ensuring the long terms fival of life as we

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know it. It's important note here that obviously you know

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we are effectively stewards of life here on Earth, that

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the other creatures cannot build space spacecraft and get to

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get to other planets. So if there were to be

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a cataclysmic event like a giant media or that destroyed

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the dinosaurs, or ultimately the Sun will expand to envelop

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Earth and destroy all life. We know this is this

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is an undisputed fact, then if we don't take life

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to another planet, well, life will be destroyed. So it's

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incumbent upon us to ensure that we do bring life

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to other planets and ensure long term survival of life as.

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Speaker 2: We know it on planet Earth.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, aside from that, there's so much that

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Starship on locks. By being able to do these things

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like we'll be able to go to Mars, but there

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are other just transformational things by being able to take

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that many people, that much stuff to space for that

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much less money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it's like understanding our planet better,

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being able to move people around the planet, make the

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make it feel smaller and more accessible. You could go

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anywhere on the Earth, you know, in less than forty

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minutes basically in terms of flight time. So I really

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do see Starship as being this thing that can connect us,

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just like Starlink connects our information this can connect us

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more physically.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's there's really nothing faster than our rocket. Really,

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in overal rocket is the fastest thing that we know of.

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That that of the fastest means of transport. So like

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you could go from LA to Sydney in less than

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half an hour, you could go LA to Tokyo less

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than half Now you go from New York to Singapore

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Some things might be ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sure, I mean yeah, sign me up for that,

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please a right quest?

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Speaker 2: Atlantic in ten minutes? No wrong? Please, yes, sign up.

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You're going twenty.

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Speaker 1: Five times a speed of sounds, so that's thirty times

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Speaker 2: And it's a whole hell of a lot better view. Yeah,

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it's a hell of a view. Yeah,

