Speaker 1: We just finished a goliath of a saga, finishing off
Speaker 1: Marine Ford. Now going into post Marine Ford with the
Speaker 1: Virgin Poseidon Mythols.
Speaker 2: What's up gamer?
Speaker 3: Hi, gamers, Hello.
Speaker 1: Hello, and now we have Jordan, not now as always,
Speaker 1: we have Jordan the anime dude joining us today.
Speaker 2: How's it going, what's up?
Speaker 4: Everybody? Happy to be here. I'm excited for this one.
Speaker 4: It was a it was a good little arc here.
Speaker 4: So so you think it'd be a little bit of
Speaker 4: a lull, but like there's there's so much going on,
Speaker 4: so many things happening around the world, and we get
Speaker 4: a flashback on top of it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, there's definitely a lot of emotion in this
Speaker 1: arc in the aftermath Poseidon general thoughts, post war. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 5: It was nice.
Speaker 6: It was kind of a nice break from the intense
Speaker 6: kind of story going on, and also getting a little
Speaker 6: a little more backstory on Loofy and Ace. And we
Speaker 6: did get introduced to a new character, uh, Sabo.
Speaker 5: So our boy, our boy Savo rip.
Speaker 4: I mean, we did meet Sabo. We also met da
Speaker 4: Don right, like the old lady that took care of him.
Speaker 4: She's one of my favorites. I love her.
Speaker 1: Anyway, the arc kind of starts off if I'm remembering correctly,
Speaker 1: with like the reality of the situation hitting Loofy. I
Speaker 1: just remember that he just looks.
Speaker 2: So dead and so traumatized.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, they they brought him back to uh
Speaker 6: Amazon Lily. They made a one made an exception for
Speaker 6: Law and gin Bay to kind of settle on a
Speaker 6: part of the island while they let Lufy kind of
Speaker 6: wake up because he's been in a coma for I
Speaker 6: think two weeks.
Speaker 5: Two weeks.
Speaker 2: Also he was out.
Speaker 1: Apparently we forgot to talk about jin Bay last week
Speaker 1: or two weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Did we not talk about jin Bay during Marine Ford?
Speaker 3: I think we might have skipped over him.
Speaker 2: Actually, this is so sad.
Speaker 4: Maybe briefly, like I think I remember him like throwing Loofy,
Speaker 4: we talked about that, like to the to the admirals,
Speaker 4: but uh, I think I don't know.
Speaker 1: We mentioned him briefly for impell Down, but then we
Speaker 1: didn't mention him in Marine Ford and just just general
Speaker 1: thoughts in Jim Bay as a Characteroseidon.
Speaker 6: I absolutely love Jim Bay. I think he's he is
Speaker 6: just a good character, Like you can tell his heart's
Speaker 6: in the right place. And uh he kept his word.
Speaker 6: He did keep his word to Ace, you know, to
Speaker 6: protect Loofy, and uh, you kind of see he's uh
Speaker 6: I feel like, I mean, I kind of already know
Speaker 6: at some point he's going to join the straw Hats.
Speaker 5: But you can tell he's he's just a good guy
Speaker 5: and he's smart.
Speaker 6: He knows he's very strategic, and he had a lot
Speaker 6: of great moments in rorine Ford.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I agree, even with impel Down, he gets first introduced
Speaker 1: and he's the one who just refused to show up
Speaker 1: and fight and he was being chained up and impelled down.
Speaker 1: It just made a good first impression.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a very principled man, like I said
Speaker 4: he was. He basically threw away everything for that right
Speaker 4: once you're in that final floor of imple Down. Like,
Speaker 4: I don't think he had any expectations for his life
Speaker 4: from that point onwards. He kind of wanted to die,
Speaker 4: be it on a battlefield or whatever. And uh, you know,
Speaker 4: it was kind of getting Loopy out of there. That
Speaker 4: kind of gave him like another little purpose to keep
Speaker 4: going right once he was uh, once he was out
Speaker 4: of imple Down, out of Marine Furt, et cetera.
Speaker 1: We also get the flashbot back that you guys mentioned
Speaker 1: with Sabo and Ace and Don Don I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: I butt your name.
Speaker 2: How do you pronounce your name?
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Her to Don as well. Thoughts on that backstory, Oh.
Speaker 5: Man, I actually really loved the don She's she was
Speaker 5: kind of a little bit of a.
Speaker 6: She she she said she hated the boys, but deep
Speaker 6: down she really did care about Ace and Loofy and
Speaker 6: even Sabo. But we did go into the backstory of
Speaker 6: how Ace and Loofy met so Garp had left Ace
Speaker 6: what were they called, like mountain bandits something like that,
Speaker 6: and to help kind of help raise them while he's
Speaker 6: kind of off doing his little marine thing. And uh,
Speaker 6: Ace and Loofy didn't get along at first. I think
Speaker 6: it was more like lou or Ace didn't get along
Speaker 6: with Loufy. Loufy really really liked Ace, and Ace kind
Speaker 6: of just kept like shoving him over, punching him, doing
Speaker 6: all the sorts. And then, uh, you kind of find
Speaker 6: out that Asa has been kind of hanging out with
Speaker 6: another kid. There's like a town in the same island,
Speaker 6: and uh, that kid's name is Sabo, and they dream
Speaker 6: of becoming pirates one day, So that's kind of It's
Speaker 6: kind of sweet. You kind of got to see the
Speaker 6: three of them kind of their relationships and friendships kind
Speaker 6: of grow. You also find out that Sabo is a noble.
Speaker 6: He comes from a very well off family, and that
Speaker 6: he doesn't really want to be a noble. That's kind
Speaker 6: of why he ran away to do all these like
Speaker 6: little pirate things with the with the boys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he just wanted to do hoodras stuff with his friends.
Speaker 4: You know, I just wanted to life.
Speaker 1: How much of this backstory did we get to see,
Speaker 1: because unfortunately I didn't rewatch it, and I feel like
Speaker 1: we get they flashed back to the to them as
Speaker 1: kids a few times.
Speaker 4: Did Yeah, it was episode You get pretty much everything.
Speaker 4: It's aka a very long backstory right there as far
Speaker 4: as yeah, like you go back to whenever Ace first
Speaker 4: moves in with and meet space and whatnot, and you
Speaker 4: go all the way to uh aceventuring out whenever Loofy's fourteen,
Speaker 4: and then Loofy venturing out whenever he's seventeen right by
Speaker 4: the end of it.
Speaker 2: So did we see try to venture out or not?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was the first one.
Speaker 1: A venture out was the first one adventure. Okay, I
Speaker 1: didn't want to accidentally spoil something, you know.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah right, So yeah, that has its own little storyline.
Speaker 6: You get to see them kind of trained there. They
Speaker 6: met another pirate who golled uh d Roger ended up
Speaker 6: fighting in the past, and you get to see them
Speaker 6: kind of train under him.
Speaker 5: And it did get revealed.
Speaker 6: That to the boys that you know, Ace is a
Speaker 6: Goldie Roger's son, and they were like, well, let's keep
Speaker 6: this a secret.
Speaker 5: Let's not let's not tell anyone.
Speaker 6: So yeah, there was like another kind of story going on.
Speaker 5: So I forgot was it when not when Neil Village
Speaker 5: that's it's like the island had a name. I can't
Speaker 5: go with the island the Gola Kingdom. There we go.
Speaker 6: So it was kind of hinted at the beginning of
Speaker 6: the arc that, oh, there's a celestial dragon who's coming
Speaker 6: to like visit. So there's like multiple parts of the island.
Speaker 6: So there's like the mountain part where the Mountain bandits
Speaker 6: are at, and there's like almost like this lower level
Speaker 6: where it's all like homeless people and just people who
Speaker 6: are who are kind of like fighting for their lives
Speaker 6: down there, you know. And then on the upper kind
Speaker 6: of level, you have a nice like town.
Speaker 5: A lot of nobles live there.
Speaker 6: So there was this whole plot line where, uh so
Speaker 6: Sabo's dad is really determined to bring Sabo back to
Speaker 6: the family because he's just like, you're a noble, You're
Speaker 6: not supposed to be hanging out with these little these
Speaker 6: little kids.
Speaker 3: You know, you're not.
Speaker 6: You're better than that. You're you're supposed to be the
Speaker 6: heir to my to my family. You can't act like that.
Speaker 6: So Sabo ends up going home with his dad and
Speaker 6: finds out that they are planning to set like almost
Speaker 6: like the low lower level the island on fire. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and he gets to see like the nobles in the
Speaker 6: town they all knew about it, but they didn't care.
Speaker 6: They were just like, oh, yeah, just another day in
Speaker 6: preparation for the celestial dragon to come visit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They bare they barely viewed those people as human, like
Speaker 1: it was just another day.
Speaker 2: They're not shocked.
Speaker 4: There was no struggle, huge class division. You see, kids
Speaker 4: are kind of raised in that kingdom to think that
Speaker 4: way from a young age, where they kind of dehumanized
Speaker 4: the people down in the in the dumps and they're
Speaker 4: literally dumping trash there. And and like you said, there's
Speaker 4: a since the Celestial Dragon's coming, there's a huge I
Speaker 4: guess you could call it a plot, but just a
Speaker 4: planned to get the the Blue Pirate dude to set
Speaker 4: fire to the place and then just get rid of
Speaker 4: all the trash in one go, right, and trash encompasses
Speaker 4: a lot in that in that sentence.
Speaker 6: But I think it's I kind of I think it's
Speaker 6: interesting that this like flashback, you kind of get to
Speaker 6: see little more of the government corruption at its at
Speaker 6: its work, you know, and like you said, the class
Speaker 6: division and uh, going all the way back into when
Speaker 6: Lufy and Ace were kids, and it just kind of
Speaker 6: made me think, like, wow, like this world a one
Speaker 6: piece there's some really just like messed up.
Speaker 5: Stuff going on. Oh yeah, and it's so sad.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think there's a lot of emphasis on this
Speaker 4: flashback too, of of seeing those things happen, But the
Speaker 4: characters that we're viewing it from are at such a
Speaker 4: young age and so powerless that they're not really able
Speaker 4: to do anything impactful to really change that.
Speaker 1: So and then you know, we get you get the
Speaker 1: reverse of Blazer said in chat, there's this ugly little
Speaker 1: brat at the noble.
Speaker 2: That's like, Oh, if.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to be homeless, they should have just
Speaker 1: not been They should have just been born a noble.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that's that kind of goes back to what
Speaker 4: I'm saying as far as the kids are being taught
Speaker 4: that from a young age, right, Like they're saying that
Speaker 4: after talking with their parents and uh, you know, the
Speaker 4: characters that we're following, they want to change that, but
Speaker 4: at the same time, they're kind of powerless to do so. Right.
Speaker 4: So I love Sabo's backstory because he comes from a
Speaker 4: completely different background than Ason. Oh yeah, Ason, Loofy, but
Speaker 4: they all have this similar feeling of like loneliness despite that,
Speaker 4: so they're very lonely and they feel very trapped and powerless.
Speaker 4: Right Like, Sabo is basically a burd in a cage
Speaker 4: and he's just you know, he finds himself questioning what
Speaker 4: is freedom? Where is freedom? Like how do I how
Speaker 4: do I get freedom to make my own destiny?
Speaker 1: Right, He's questioning the same things like Loofy and Ace want,
Speaker 1: but from the completely polar opposite like perspective where he is, right, Like,
Speaker 1: they all want freedom, they all want this adventure, and
Speaker 1: they all like kind of question these things. But then
Speaker 1: Sabo's coming from like nobility, which is definitely an interesting
Speaker 1: spin on it, and then from this loneliness that they've
Speaker 1: all had at one point, right Roger without his rogers
Speaker 1: thought his dad, like Ace and his father and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. They all had this like loneliness in a way,
Speaker 1: and then they become brothers, which is this beautiful Yeah.
Speaker 4: And the thing that the reason the loneliness stuck out
Speaker 4: to me and whatnot is because Lufy is so persistent, right,
Speaker 4: Like Ace is very jaded, he's very tough to get
Speaker 4: close to. He doesn't really want to warm up to anybody.
Speaker 4: So like the links that Lufy had to go to
Speaker 4: to keep following him through the jungle almost dying left
Speaker 4: and right, and then, uh, you know, I guess we
Speaker 4: have any thoughts on I guess that backstory of like
Speaker 4: whenever Lufy first actually saw their treasure there Poseidon, like
Speaker 4: he found the treasure that Sabo and and Ace had
Speaker 4: been storing up in the tree and then uh, and
Speaker 4: then he got caught, right yeah. Yeah, So so we
Speaker 4: get to see like Lufy basically taken in, tortured and
Speaker 4: he refuses to speak about that treasure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was just such a powerful moment too, because it,
Speaker 6: I guess goes to show like what kind of person
Speaker 6: Lufy is even as a child. Yeah, Like his sense
Speaker 6: of loyalty for the people he cares about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, it's just also a scared little
Speaker 4: kid at that time, right as far as uh like
Speaker 4: he was, he was scared as hell. But like whenever
Speaker 4: he has asked his reasoning thereafter, you know, he said,
Speaker 4: it's because I want to be your friend. And if
Speaker 4: I told him he could be friends, right, Like, he's like,
Speaker 4: I don't have anybody here. I hate Bandits. I had
Speaker 4: that bad experience with the bandit and now like I've
Speaker 4: just tossed out here with Bandits and you, and it's
Speaker 4: like I So he was really determined to get close
Speaker 4: to Ace, and uh it took like those extreme circumstances
Speaker 4: to kind of gain that trust between them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ace is not trust anybody, right and not at that
Speaker 1: point nof he so stubborn, so persistent managed to earn it.
Speaker 1: M hm. Yeah, you guys mentioned some random dude with
Speaker 1: hockey that fought Roger and got his asked by Roger
Speaker 1: or something, I don't remember that at all.
Speaker 2: Is that canon?
Speaker 4: I don't remember that little guy.
Speaker 5: There was a guy I don't know if he had hockey,
Speaker 5: but he was like, oh.
Speaker 6: I'm a pirate and uh I he was telling the
Speaker 6: boys about his story against like Roger, and he's going
Speaker 6: to train the boys, and the boys were helping him
Speaker 6: like build his ship and made training moment.
Speaker 4: I don't remember this either, And be honest, I just
Speaker 4: re read it, so it might be filler. I don't
Speaker 4: know if it was there filler in this art.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I watched it so cute, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was added into the flashback anime only so
Speaker 1: it's not a cannon.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but uh yeah, I know after Sabo kind of
Speaker 4: sacrificed himself, I know Ason Lufy helped to kind of
Speaker 4: set up the uh the bombs that were gonna put
Speaker 4: the garbage place on fire. They helped the pirates to
Speaker 4: do so because they were, you know, they didn't really
Speaker 4: have much other choice. But uh yeah, I don't really
Speaker 4: remember them being like a having like a mentor in
Speaker 4: any other way.
Speaker 1: Dude, I don't remember that that crazy. I have watched
Speaker 1: it and read it, but I feel like maybe the
Speaker 1: last couple of times i've read it, I haven't actually watched.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that, or maybe.
Speaker 3: It was very short lived moment in an episode.
Speaker 2: Maybe the last time.
Speaker 1: I also I watched one pace as well, which cuts
Speaker 1: out anything that's not in the manga.
Speaker 3: Mt that part out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, interesting, I kind of want to see that.
Speaker 2: That's that's interesting.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like there there was like a scene
Speaker 6: where they were kind of around the campfire and they
Speaker 6: were eating, and the guy was telling all three of
Speaker 6: them like his stories, and you know Loofy being so fascinated, like,
Speaker 6: oh my god, you got to fight.
Speaker 5: You got to fight Roger, that's so cool.
Speaker 3: The Kingdom sirates.
Speaker 5: So you kind of get like these sweet.
Speaker 6: Moments between the characters. And they helped build like his
Speaker 6: ships so he can go.
Speaker 1: Question because he needed help. Did we see the Dawn
Speaker 1: and Garp interact in these episodes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's that's the tough part right there.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: We see Loofy in them have that dud Dawn have
Speaker 4: that like Souderay type, you know, relationship with asen Loofy.
Speaker 4: She actually she doesn't love him, but she she cares form,
Speaker 4: takes care of him and basically raises him right from yeah,
Speaker 4: Lukie when he's seven, Ace when he's like nine or ten,
Speaker 4: and then uh, and then we also see like the
Speaker 4: after effects of the war, right whenever Garp comes back
Speaker 4: into town and.
Speaker 6: Oh god, I like his baby watching.
Speaker 4: That's one of my favorite moments in the series.
Speaker 5: It is it is me too.
Speaker 1: Definitely my favorite moment in this arc.
Speaker 2: In this little.
Speaker 4: Post arc, I mean, at this point, Garp's basically retiring, right, Like,
Speaker 4: you can tell it affected him, you could tell it
Speaker 4: affected her. She's like, you chose your job over your family. Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: So many things kind of going on in this little arc,
Speaker 4: but just the raw emotion from Ah from her after
Speaker 4: after seeing the flashback hit hard. Especially Loofy has that
Speaker 4: bad experience with Mountain Bandits right, and he didn't really
Speaker 4: like being out there at first. But one of the
Speaker 4: last things, uh, you know, whenever Ace sailed off, he
Speaker 4: said thanks for everything and whatever, Loopy, when of the
Speaker 4: last things he said to her was I don't really
Speaker 4: like Mountain Bandits. She's like, you little He's like, but
Speaker 4: I like you guys, and I don't know, just like
Speaker 4: there's something about that. From her perspective, she like raised
Speaker 4: them all that time. There's probably not like a lot
Speaker 4: of loving words in between them, but that's just them
Speaker 4: showing that appreciation is like the last thing they said
Speaker 4: to her prior to heading out. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 4: it's so heartwarming.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 6: I also want to mention that we did get to
Speaker 6: see Dragon this heart Oh very important.
Speaker 5: You kind of got to see Dragon.
Speaker 6: He's like all hood he has like his hood on,
Speaker 6: and you see an interaction between him and Sabo.
Speaker 3: Actually not him and Ace.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 6: So there was a point where Sabo was just like
Speaker 6: crying in the middle of the street, like nobody wants
Speaker 6: to listen. I just want to be free, Like it's
Speaker 6: not right that they're setting you know, everyone the bottom
Speaker 6: level on fire. Why why does nobody care? Like these
Speaker 6: people are all messed up, they don't care about anyone.
Speaker 6: You kind of see almost like this moment where where
Speaker 6: Dragon kind of like almost like empathizes with him a
Speaker 6: little bit. He's like, I understand, we all want freedom,
Speaker 6: you know, and you kind of get to see that
Speaker 6: small interruption, which I feel is going to be important.
Speaker 3: Yeah, forward, I.
Speaker 4: Think that impacted Dragon a lot because it's yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It wasn't just any kid, right, it was it was
Speaker 4: from the side of town. And he said, I was ashamed.
Speaker 4: I'm ashamed to be, you know, lumped in with the
Speaker 4: noble aristocrat, to be lumped in with the with the
Speaker 4: people as is happening.
Speaker 2: So do you have any theories going forward?
Speaker 6: Because I see I am a very fair believer in
Speaker 6: whenever I watch media, if I don't which we're gonna talk.
Speaker 6: I'm sure we're going to talk about this, but we
Speaker 6: do see uh Sabo try to go off and to
Speaker 6: see and like his his boat get exploded, you know,
Speaker 6: on a big So the Celestial Dragon kind of was like,
Speaker 6: I don't care if that's a kid, I'm just gonna
Speaker 6: shoot your boat down. I am a very fair believer.
Speaker 6: I don't see this character like die. They are alive,
Speaker 6: which is why I'm like, I don't they've Bonclay is dead.
Speaker 6: He might be alive. I didn't see him die. So
Speaker 6: there was a scene where where Dragon was just like
Speaker 6: for those who crave freedom, you can join me and
Speaker 6: my rev army. You got to see Kuma and Ivankov
Speaker 6: on the same boat as him. So I don't know
Speaker 6: I feel like Dragon might take Saba under his wing
Speaker 6: at some point. I have no idea.
Speaker 5: I actually I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like you know that, like I try because
Speaker 1: you gotta know that he's alive based on the one
Speaker 1: piece card game. But yeah, you think you're coming up
Speaker 1: with some good theories and some good ideas, Like I
Speaker 1: like to see the gears turning.
Speaker 6: I know he's gonna be in in a future arc,
Speaker 6: but I feel like, I don't know. I feel like
Speaker 6: he's gonna be a part of the rev army, and
Speaker 6: but I don't know how we get there. Like I'm
Speaker 6: very very interested to see because I'm also curious as
Speaker 6: to like if Dragon even knew Loofy was there.
Speaker 1: Imagine Dragon was like on honest way to see for
Speaker 1: the first time and then he just runs into Sab.
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, fuck that shit. Fucked that kid.
Speaker 6: I was like, there's no way that he was on
Speaker 6: this island and had no idea that Lufy was there
Speaker 6: or Garp took Loofy there.
Speaker 5: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: I find his.
Speaker 6: Character very interesting because it was mentioned in the past
Speaker 6: that Lufy's like, well, I don't even know my dad,
Speaker 6: so I don't know how much Lufy has interacted with his.
Speaker 2: Dad post was post and his love. He's like I
Speaker 2: had a dad.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So like I don't know how if like Dragon
Speaker 6: was going to see him or maybe he just felt
Speaker 6: that it was too soon or like, I don't know,
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we did have it kind of info dumped
Speaker 4: in this section where he said he was he was born,
Speaker 4: and I think he was like from the goa kingdom, right,
Speaker 4: Dragon was so like that that's kind of where he's from.
Speaker 4: Now anything else associated with that, you know, it's neither
Speaker 4: here nor there. But we see that that's kind of
Speaker 4: where he's from. And he says like he doesn't really
Speaker 4: have like the the power to you know, change it
Speaker 4: up to this point, right, So no.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm on the same page as you. I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see him do something.
Speaker 3: Can we not know still today?
Speaker 1: Can't wait to see what Dragon's up to and what
Speaker 1: he's doing why he goes into those places.
Speaker 6: Because I very much questioned because like he obviously knows
Speaker 6: Lufy's alive. He saved him back in Longtown, and like
Speaker 6: obviously Lufy didn't really understand what the hell is going on, but.
Speaker 1: The world the world most wanted man, the largest criminal
Speaker 1: alive in one piece.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because, like, like I said, this whole
Speaker 4: arc is based around like these kids being powerless to
Speaker 4: change kind of what's going on, and uh, you know,
Speaker 4: after Sabo's death whenever looping them here the note news. Yeah,
Speaker 4: uh you know, one of the things that the Don
Speaker 4: tells them is like it's you know, it's not like
Speaker 4: any one person killed Sabo, Like going out for revenge
Speaker 4: isn't gonna help. It's it's the system. It's the world
Speaker 4: that killed Sabo, right, Like as far as like just
Speaker 4: how things are set up and like the fight, you know,
Speaker 4: you're not gonna be ready to fight that until you're
Speaker 4: you know, you get your own life together, you get
Speaker 4: your own bearings about you. And then we see a
Speaker 4: Dragon like he's the you know, leader of the revolutionary army,
Speaker 4: like that's his whole thing, and even he's like, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, not quite to that point yet, like he
Speaker 4: doesn't think he can change the entire kingdom and and
Speaker 4: how it's set up with a things like that. So
Speaker 4: there's just a lot there that uh, it's kind of
Speaker 4: running in parallel between Dragon and then the kids.
Speaker 5: I find that just so interesting, you know, like just
Speaker 5: such good writing. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this this arc, it's a nice kind of break
Speaker 6: from the intense I guess happenings of like the present time.
Speaker 6: You also get to see what's what what did happen
Speaker 6: after the war?
Speaker 1: Yeah, decisions to make. Lufy had some decisions to.
Speaker 5: Make, and these decisions to make I don't know who.
Speaker 1: I talk about that post after the little flashback what happens.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so Lufay ends up waking up after two weeks.
Speaker 6: Jinbay had to kind of calm him down because Lufi
Speaker 6: is still grieving. He is he lost one of the
Speaker 6: few people who cares about He did all of what
Speaker 6: he did for Ace, only to come out failing to
Speaker 6: be able to save him. And you kind of see,
Speaker 6: like Jinbay like is this what Ace would have wanted?
Speaker 6: You know, you don't have time to like grieve or whatever.
Speaker 6: You know, we we got to move forward and really
Speaker 6: ends up showing up, which is which I thought was interesting.
Speaker 5: This man literally came out of the water.
Speaker 6: All the see kings like are dead in the compell
Speaker 6: going to the Amazon Lily and I thought it very
Speaker 6: interesting that none of the women on Amazon Lily gave.
Speaker 5: Really a hard time. They were all very.
Speaker 6: Welcoming with him, unlike they were with Jinbay and laws crew.
Speaker 4: Well, it is said that like whenever Boa and them
Speaker 4: escape THESS Clestial Dragons and whatnot, it was it was
Speaker 4: Releigh that like helped them to do so right and
Speaker 4: and took you away. So like they're very uh, I
Speaker 4: guess in his debt there are very grateful to him
Speaker 4: in that regard. So yeah, like they're very well acquainted,
Speaker 4: they know his wife, etcetera.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: So really gets over there and they kind of like talk.
Speaker 6: He talks to you Becauselufi wants to go back to
Speaker 6: Saba Odi. He's like, I want to go see my crew.
Speaker 6: I want to just go into the new world, like
Speaker 6: we I just need to move forward. And then really's
Speaker 6: like are you sure that's what you want to do?
Speaker 6: Are you sure that is the right thing to do?
Speaker 6: Because if you're not strong enough to handle, like, you know,
Speaker 6: whatever happened in Marine Ford, are you gonna be able
Speaker 6: to like handle the new world because that's that's like
Speaker 6: hard mode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, think about what happened with Kuma and SAMBIODI think
Speaker 1: about the powers and the threats.
Speaker 2: We saw in Marine Ford.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you're still a little bit too green
Speaker 1: straw hat.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so Loofy he had presented an option to him,
Speaker 6: so we don't really get to see it until he
Speaker 6: goes he goes back to Marine Ford. Loofy literally goes
Speaker 6: back to Marine Ford. He's not there to fight. There's like,
Speaker 6: you know, news journalists over there, newspaper people, and they're
Speaker 6: they're in the midst of rebuilding Marine Ford because they
Speaker 6: got basically destroyed during the war. And uh, Loofy. There's
Speaker 6: a bell and Loofy gets off the.
Speaker 5: Boat with Rayley on it.
Speaker 6: Rings the bells sixteen times in front of all of
Speaker 6: these journalists and leaves and it has a There was
Speaker 6: another moment where he had his hat up to his
Speaker 6: chest and was almost like grieving all of the lives
Speaker 6: that were lost at Marine Fort, including his friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does like a moment of like, I guess,
Speaker 1: silence with his hat to his chest, and he like
Speaker 1: has flowers that he throws into the into like the crack.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That and they started by circling around once because
Speaker 4: that's like a typical uh, I guess, like a sea
Speaker 4: burial type thing as far as, Uh, just just I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 2: They did a few.
Speaker 4: Different things in there where you know they're not entirely
Speaker 4: sure what's going on, you know what what is the message,
Speaker 4: what's not? But you know they're just paying their respects,
Speaker 4: right and uh, but also you know they're doing that.
Speaker 4: And then on the low key, mostly Rayley's idea, they
Speaker 4: also did something else right, yes, the old tattoo, do
Speaker 4: you know?
Speaker 6: Uh, the other message it was to why right he
Speaker 6: got that tattooed so for two years, So I believe
Speaker 6: if I'm remembering correctly, I feel free to correct me
Speaker 6: if I'm wrong. So it was like almost like a
Speaker 6: marine thing to be able to like ring the bell
Speaker 6: and it will signify like a certain amount of time.
Speaker 6: So if you ring the bell eight times, it's one year,
Speaker 6: and if you ring the bell sixteen times, it's two years.
Speaker 6: So he went over there to one kind of memorialize
Speaker 6: all the people who lost their lives, including Ace, and
Speaker 6: two to let his crew know that in two years,
Speaker 6: to return back to Saba Odi because all of them
Speaker 6: are now scrambling at this point, everybody, everybody's found out
Speaker 6: what happened at Marine Ford, and all of them are
Speaker 6: eager to get back to Saba Odie.
Speaker 5: But the news of Loofy ringing the bell.
Speaker 6: And having the tattoo and everything, all of them kind
Speaker 6: of are like, all right, we're gonna stay put and
Speaker 6: train and become stronger.
Speaker 1: So and by the way that the tattoo or the
Speaker 1: writing on his arm said three D two Y with
Speaker 1: the three D crossed out, so like instead of three days,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do two years type of thing.
Speaker 4: Years.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's also the double meaning in what she said
Speaker 4: with the bells too, right, because well that could mean
Speaker 4: two years and whatnot. Like he did it at a
Speaker 4: time where like normally the bells wouldn't be rang that way,
Speaker 4: and uh yeah, there were people like kind of thinking,
Speaker 4: does that mean, like it's like the start of a
Speaker 4: new era, like just the different symbolism there where it's
Speaker 4: like there wasn't a clear message to anybody outside of
Speaker 4: like the three day thing like that, nobody else outside
Speaker 4: of his crew would know that. Yeah, you know, it
Speaker 4: wasn't kind of clear what he was doing.
Speaker 1: He just wanted to get the people going so he
Speaker 1: could end up on the He needed to end up
Speaker 1: on the newspaper, get a little bit of public. You know,
Speaker 1: it was provocative and he had to get there let
Speaker 1: the crew know his message somehow.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they all understood, every single one of them,
Speaker 6: was like you know what, you know, we got to
Speaker 6: become stronger. So you kind of get to see like
Speaker 6: Nami and you know, all the rest of them kind
Speaker 6: of like, all right, we're gonna train. And the arc
Speaker 6: ends with Raleigh and Loofy going on this really dangerous
Speaker 6: island that really had previously also trained on, and Raley
Speaker 6: is now going to be teaching Loofy how to use
Speaker 6: his hockey. So because at this point, Loufy has hockey,
Speaker 6: but he doesn't know how to control it, Like you've
Speaker 6: seen him use it a few times, but he had
Speaker 6: no idea.
Speaker 5: He was even using it, like she's like why what happens?
Speaker 5: Why is everybody on the floor, like what's going on?
Speaker 6: So you kind of get to see almost like this
Speaker 6: little montage of Raley and Loofy doing their thing, beating
Speaker 6: up the animals, really demonstrating the different types of hockey
Speaker 6: because there is beaultiple different types, So the most important
Speaker 6: being conquerors because that's the one in a million, right,
Speaker 6: and Lufy has it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a pretty brief training with him,
Speaker 1: Like we get to see like Loofy like put on
Speaker 1: it his like blindfold and he had to like read
Speaker 1: Rayley's attacks with observation hockey. He goes through armament and
Speaker 1: and like you said, conquerors and I do like training arcs,
Speaker 1: but I like how one piece keeps them relatively quick. Ye.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it didn't even really show much in
Speaker 4: the manga. I think at one point he's like putting
Speaker 4: his hat down and then like at the end of
Speaker 4: one chapter and at the start of the next he's
Speaker 4: picking it back up, right, So yeah, and it's been
Speaker 4: two years, but uh, but yeah, I love like the
Speaker 4: timing of the training arc though, because we just had
Speaker 4: all that build up in Marine Ford. We we see
Speaker 4: Lufy push himself past where he thought was possible again
Speaker 4: and again and again. But this is the time where
Speaker 4: he falls short, and it just runs so parallel to
Speaker 4: uh because this time, you know, falling short means he
Speaker 4: loses a brother, and then it runs so parallel to
Speaker 4: that backstory we would get right after where the last
Speaker 4: time he felt so weak and helpless, he also lost
Speaker 4: a brother, right, so we don't see Lufy cry a lot.
Speaker 4: I think he did when the when the Going Mary sank,
Speaker 4: but like aside from that, losing Ace and then losing Sabo,
Speaker 4: like he was a cry baby as a kid, but
Speaker 4: like we don't see him cry much after losing Sabo,
Speaker 4: and then like the losing Ace.
Speaker 1: On top of that, he balls after a dies on
Speaker 1: Alon Lily, Oh my god, right, pay for it.
Speaker 4: Like we see him hit like rock Bottom after rock
Speaker 4: Bottom right here, right.
Speaker 1: And that's where I feel like, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: it's good in the in the anime, but I do
Speaker 1: feel like the drawing of it in.
Speaker 2: The manga really got me. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know the exact reason.
Speaker 1: I think I would have just depicted it really well,
Speaker 1: and it was it was just heartbreaking the sea.
Speaker 4: I hated this part of the anime because I caught
Speaker 4: up and then there was a week long break whenever
Speaker 4: the time scap skip happened. So like they start training
Speaker 4: and then it's like, all right, well now I have
Speaker 4: to like go without one piece for a bit, and you.
Speaker 2: Know what's exciting.
Speaker 1: So not only are we getting a remake of one
Speaker 1: Piece and a live action of one Piece, but they
Speaker 1: they're they're slowing down the production of One Piece by
Speaker 1: Toy Animation, and we're gonna get like twenty six episodes
Speaker 1: a year and what's that fucking sound? Sorry, guys, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get like twenty six episodes a year or something
Speaker 1: like that. It's gonna be higher quality. I am pumped
Speaker 1: for the future a one Piece.
Speaker 5: I am too, because it'll give me time to catch up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to start watching the anime again because
Speaker 4: I stopped it in a in a spark I won't
Speaker 4: name that has like over one hundred episodes with like
Speaker 4: over one hundred chapters.
Speaker 1: I think, like good idea might just be to read everything,
Speaker 1: catch up fully, and then once they start doing higher
Speaker 1: production to anime for you, Jordan, at least, then go
Speaker 1: back to the anime, because that's what.
Speaker 4: I've read past that quite a bit. But like seeing
Speaker 4: I've seen snippets from like recent episodes where I'm like, damn,
Speaker 4: that looks really good, Like there's some really high Yeah,
Speaker 4: there is some time, I think stuff in recent episodes.
Speaker 2: Like in.
Speaker 1: I would say the last three arcs of the anime,
Speaker 1: there's some really good stuff happening with the animation at times.
Speaker 1: But I still think it's just like they're slowing the pacing.
Speaker 1: There's like it's the pacing is just so bad at
Speaker 1: times that the mamas just so much better.
Speaker 4: I think, like I said, where I stopped watching the
Speaker 4: anime is why I hear is usually like the worst arc,
Speaker 4: And I guess did the will the name of the arc?
Speaker 4: Bother you Poseidon?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: Okay? Dress Rosa has like over one hundred chapters in
Speaker 4: the manga, but it has like just as many episodes
Speaker 4: in the anime, so there's a lot of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I started like really reading.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of like episodes where like nothing happens
Speaker 4: for half the episode. It's just recapped, so it's like
Speaker 4: it was it was rough.
Speaker 2: Good luck when we get there.
Speaker 5: I am quite excited for Ross I heard it's a
Speaker 5: fun one.
Speaker 2: It's actually an amazing arc.
Speaker 1: It's just the pace, which I love.
Speaker 3: I love tournament arcs.
Speaker 4: So unrelated, entirely, not not related at all. So at
Speaker 4: the very start of the h the post war arc here,
Speaker 4: one of the first things we see is uh is
Speaker 4: Gecko Moria getting jumped, right, So I don't think we
Speaker 4: ever talked about that. Last week. I didn't want to
Speaker 4: bring it up, Like I was, like, it's technically after
Speaker 4: the war, Like I think they'd write in the newspaper
Speaker 4: that he dies like during the war. But uh, but yeah,
Speaker 4: he gets jumped by do Flamingo and and a bunch
Speaker 4: of Pacifistas, right, and uh it because the higher ups
Speaker 4: in the the government, even above single kup ordered his
Speaker 4: assassination right saying he doesn't have what it takes to
Speaker 4: be a warlord and et cetera. So I guess any
Speaker 4: any thoughts on that beside there any where that storyline's
Speaker 4: going or.
Speaker 6: I have no idea, because we also got to see
Speaker 6: uh the Bonnie get captured the shark.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Uh, and we also, like I forgot to mention as well,
Speaker 6: we also do get Kobe's official diagnosis of hockey and
Speaker 6: then how going wait wait can I have hockey to
Speaker 6: like you kind of see?
Speaker 5: Uh? Kobe.
Speaker 6: Also, He's like, there's voices I can hear. I just
Speaker 6: I don't know I can hear everything now, So I'm
Speaker 6: pretty I'm pretty certain it could be observation hockey.
Speaker 5: So I find that very interesting that he basically unlocked it.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, mm hmm, yeah, so many things.
Speaker 3: Going on, so many things going on. I mean, the
Speaker 3: whole world's on fire.
Speaker 4: Garb retires, the single retires, Buggy meets back up with
Speaker 4: his crew.
Speaker 5: You know, oh yeah, it's yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Question, what is the last thing that happens in this
Speaker 1: post time skip arc.
Speaker 4: I don't want to spoil setting his hat down.
Speaker 5: I think it was setting his hat down.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in which case we have a pretty bangor arc
Speaker 1: coming up next. Let me just double check before. Well,
Speaker 1: it's technically returned to Sabadi, but I don't think that's
Speaker 1: a lot of episodes, so we might be able to like.
Speaker 2: Do a little bit more. Sorry, I should have been ready.
Speaker 3: No, you're you're fine.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's technically fish Man Island, and I I like
Speaker 1: Fishman Island.
Speaker 2: A lot of people have their complaints. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Fan Letter, Yes, you gotta watch fan Letter too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was told to watch that too, to watch
Speaker 6: fan Letter after return to Saba Odi.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think for now we just do return to
Speaker 1: Sava Odi and fan Letter. I think it might be
Speaker 1: a little bit too much if we want to try
Speaker 1: and do it next week, it might be a little
Speaker 1: bit too much.
Speaker 2: Return to Saba Odi. Oh no, return to Saba.
Speaker 1: ODI's apparently only five seventeen to five twenty two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty quick. But then there's like the journey
Speaker 4: like from there, right, So I don't know, I don't
Speaker 4: remember how long that is, but uh, up to you
Speaker 4: guys deside admittedly, like how much of that have you watched? Uh?
Speaker 6: I only watched like two or three episod okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So you're basically already almost done return to Saba odi.
Speaker 1: So I would say, watch fan letter and watch some
Speaker 1: Fischman Island and like maybe at around the halfway point,
Speaker 1: at like five thirty five five forty episode wise, we
Speaker 1: we do it.
Speaker 2: We do an episode.
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, this was such a post horsto painful. I
Speaker 6: know we mentioned it earlier, but at the Don and
Speaker 6: Garp scene really broke me because you also see Garp
Speaker 6: he's not doing anything against the Don, Like the Don's
Speaker 6: like beating the shit out of him, and he is
Speaker 6: he is literally not doing anything because he knows he's
Speaker 6: also he's ashamed of as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it hurt him and hurt her, and then like
Speaker 4: they both just kind of have to admit, like the
Speaker 4: one that's probably hurting the most right now is is Loofy, Right,
Speaker 4: Like he followed Ace around everywhere, just adored him as
Speaker 4: a kid. And then uh, yeah, you know, guys, he
Speaker 4: was there.
Speaker 2: I'll be back in one minute.
Speaker 1: Continue, give me your final thoughts on the arc, some
Speaker 1: favorite moments, stuff like that, and then we'll wrap it
Speaker 1: up in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2: I'll be right back.
Speaker 5: Okay, So it's good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what were your favorite moments he episode?
Speaker 5: Definitely that one.
Speaker 6: I also it really hurt also seeing like Machio like going,
Speaker 6: you know, well, what do you the person we should
Speaker 6: were you worrying about right now?
Speaker 3: Is Loofy?
Speaker 5: You know that?
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: It's not It's not good for anyone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was. There was a lot in this arc.
Speaker 4: And as much as I love the updates of like
Speaker 4: what's going on in the world and uh, what's going
Speaker 4: on with his friends and the crew, I guess did
Speaker 4: you have a favorite between them as far as everything
Speaker 4: going on with his crewmates? I guess we kind of.
Speaker 5: Straw hats.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I just thought it was funny, like NAMMY's
Speaker 6: interaction with the Weatherman's It's like she was gonna she
Speaker 6: was gonna leave, and she's just kind of dragging one
Speaker 6: of them around and she was just like, you'll forgive me, right,
Speaker 6: you'll forgive me because I'm pretty yo, and uh yeah,
Speaker 6: it was quite a cool seeing Chopper. His little thing was, uh,
Speaker 6: the birds on the island regarding like the herbs to
Speaker 6: make the medicine. So some of the people the tribe
Speaker 6: was getting sick. So Trumper was able to unite the
Speaker 6: birds and the tribe and they're able to live in harmony. Now, okay,
Speaker 6: heal all the the guys over there.
Speaker 5: I thought that was cute.
Speaker 6: You kind of see Zorro and uh, Parona and Mehawk
Speaker 6: kind of have their own interactions.
Speaker 4: And yeah, that's my favorite because we see Parona reading
Speaker 4: the paper seeing you know that Morio is supposedly dead,
Speaker 4: but they're saying he died in the war, right, and
Speaker 4: Meehawk's like he was a live last time I saw him.
Speaker 4: But and then we get Zoro, Like, I guess, do
Speaker 4: you want to talk about what Zoro went through in
Speaker 4: that arc or like what he did.
Speaker 6: Is still incredibly injured from something in last instances, so
Speaker 6: he's h he was struggling a little bit, but he's
Speaker 6: begging me Hawk to to train him to become a
Speaker 6: better swordsman.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Mihawk wanted to turn down at first because
Speaker 4: he you know, initially he was determined to beat those
Speaker 4: monkeys and then get off the island and go meet
Speaker 4: up with Lufy. But once he gets the update in
Speaker 4: the newspaper, he sees h you know, he sees that
Speaker 4: he has a couple of years he needs, knows he
Speaker 4: needs to get stronger, and he's willing to put his
Speaker 4: own pride aside and request and basically beg Mihawk, the
Speaker 4: guy that you know is his goal to train him.
Speaker 4: So Meehawk is initially going to say no, but he's
Speaker 4: willing to accept them once he kind of realizes like, oh,
Speaker 4: he's putting his pride aside. That means he's doing this
Speaker 4: for somebody else. And it's not like he, you know,
Speaker 4: is is weak. He sat there and beat all the monkeys,
Speaker 4: he just knows the only person left would be to
Speaker 4: beat me, and he's humble enough to admit he can't
Speaker 4: do that right now, but he knows he needs to
Speaker 4: for somebody else's sake. Right So, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 4: there was something about that interaction that always hits home
Speaker 4: for me too. So because up to this point, Mihawk's
Speaker 4: just been that big bad that Zoro has been chasing
Speaker 4: since early on, right, So yeah, to see him, you know,
Speaker 4: basically become his apprentice, sir student if you will. Oh,
Speaker 4: very cool.
Speaker 6: I thought it was very cool too, trying to Then
Speaker 6: Frankie danced, Yeah, Frankie frank dancing, and then Brooke is performing.
Speaker 6: So I mean all of them are kind of on
Speaker 6: their own. This is the first time they've been like
Speaker 6: by themselves in a long time. So it's very very
Speaker 6: looking forward to that reunion.
Speaker 3: They're all working for to.
Speaker 4: Be used to go around everywhere by herself, and it's
Speaker 4: like you said, she handled herself so well, she was
Speaker 4: about to scam them and dip out. Robin seems very composed,
Speaker 4: but some of the guys I worry for him, like Frankie.
Speaker 4: They're like, don't blow it up, don't hit the self destruct,
Speaker 4: and he's like, oh, look, this button has like a
Speaker 4: pirate symbol on it. And then sure enough, you leave
Speaker 4: a man alone with a button for ten seconds tell
Speaker 4: him not to push it. But uh, absolutely a lot
Speaker 4: lots of shenanigans there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, this was honestly, I really enjoyed this arc overall.
Speaker 6: It did kind of help out with kind of almost
Speaker 6: just keeping giving me a break.
Speaker 3: But this was also very emotional.
Speaker 6: So I'm looking forward to Fishermont Island because I do
Speaker 6: love the designs, the redesigns, because.
Speaker 5: Each straw Had, for the most part.
Speaker 3: Gets a redesign.
Speaker 6: There are some straw has that kind of don't really
Speaker 6: get too much of a redesign.
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: And we get Mermaids too, right, I'm excited for Mermaids.
Speaker 4: Mermaids are great.
Speaker 6: Oh there's one character I am very much looking forward to,
Speaker 6: and I'm excited to meet her in fish On Island
Speaker 6: me too.
Speaker 4: Character is named Poseidon, and she is the mythic queen
Speaker 4: of the of the seas, right, so are very own
Speaker 4: She'll be there at Fishman Island.
Speaker 2: You can see the Poseidon's art.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm excited for next week?
Speaker 5: Is it really?
Speaker 4: I mean, you tell us you're the one in the art.
Speaker 2: I mean it's your arc.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the background right now and I see
Speaker 4: Fishman Island back there.
Speaker 3: You might be right, you might you might be right.
Speaker 4: We get Mermaids and Poseidon. This is going to be
Speaker 4: a good artist.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't wait for Shanji's gonna freak out.
Speaker 3: I already know ye.
Speaker 1: Anyway, everyone, I hope you guys enjoyed today's podcast. Thank
Speaker 1: you Poseidon, I hope you're loving.
Speaker 2: One piece I am.
Speaker 1: And thank you Jordan as always for joining us and
Speaker 1: making this possible.
Speaker 4: Always a fun time.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, thank you, love you gamers, shin poku,
Speaker 1: and I'll see you all next time.
Speaker 4: Bye,