WEBVTT 1 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:22.239 So of course, you know, for the universe to come 2 00:00:22.280 --> 00:00:25.160 into being, it has to be created by someone. For 3 00:00:25.280 --> 00:00:27.960 it to continue functioning smoothly, there has to be a 4 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:31.320 preserver or a manager. And at the end of time, 5 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:35.119 because we believe time is cyclical, it's not linear. So 6 00:00:35.280 --> 00:00:40.039 there's creation, there's preservation, there's destruction, and then again creation begins. 7 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:43.560 So somebody has to be responsible for that destruction bit 8 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:47.039 as well. So we have three major gods. It is 9 00:00:47.079 --> 00:00:49.840 a Hindu trinity, just like you have in Christianity. There's 10 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:52.640 a trinity. There's a trinity in Hinduism as well of 11 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:58.119 Brahma who's the creator, Wishnood who's the preserver, and Shiver 12 00:00:58.520 --> 00:00:59.520 who's the destroyer. 13 00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:21.319 What is happening? And what is a sold out your glass? 14 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:22.879 Because we're about to feel it up. 15 00:01:23.079 --> 00:01:28.640 All things continually lead back to serpents, dragons, fairies, nepheline 16 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:31.879 and fallen angels. In the distance, looms a mystical mountain. 17 00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:33.359 As Mike Kaiser used to say, if it's in the 18 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:36.000 Bible and it's weird, it's probably important. At its peak, 19 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:40.959 a great fire burns, concealing the Prometheus lens. 20 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:45.599 This development of this knowledge that's being talked about within 21 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:46.359 the Mystery. 22 00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:49.239 Schools, an ancient artifact said to reveal the hidden truth 23 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:52.280 within a deliberately darkened world. There is a hidden history 24 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:55.000 that's been deliberately obscated from the people's little world. Join 25 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:58.760 us as we travel and explore the vast unknown. It's 26 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:02.840 a hero's journey with dragons to slay, damsels to save, 27 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:08.639 and innumerable treasures to hoard torches high. 28 00:02:09.120 --> 00:02:13.400 The Smithsonian, they called wind of the Giant's help, would 29 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:15.680 send their agents out to get it. 30 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:21.879 But it takes courage to move forward, to move out 31 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:27.560 of the shadows, out of the under reality that we 32 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:29.520 think of this reality. 33 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:34.039 We are all on the hero's journey. 34 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:40.039 Mankind has been in contact with and influenced by extraterrestrials. 35 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:44.520 Leave the citient mound of bull feathers out of it, you. 36 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:48.639 Know, look at it from a different perspective, different perspective. 37 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:59.560 Different pet What is happening and what is up? 38 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:03.560 Hold out your glass because we are about to hit 39 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:06.800 Welcome to the Prometheus Lens podcast, the place where the 40 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:10.759 conversations are always enlightening. I'm your host, Justin and here 41 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:13.919 we like to use the allegory of the Prometheus lens 42 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:17.800 to take a second look at everything. Hey, if you 43 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:20.560 new to the channel, welcome to the Hero's Journey. Hit 44 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:23.080 that like button, hit that subscribe button, and if you 45 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:24.319 don't care coming down. 46 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:25.360 Below, we'll have our socials. 47 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:27.599 Be sure to check us out on our various platforms 48 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:28.840 to be much appreciated. 49 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:31.520 And once again just to reach out guys. 50 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:34.680 If you are an author, a researcher, had a supernatural 51 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:38.599 experience something that would be an interesting conversation, feel free 52 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:41.199 to go to the website, reach out to me, or 53 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:43.319 even hit me up on my dms on social media. 54 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:45.520 I'd love to sit down and have a conversation with you. 55 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:48.719 But today, guys, we're going to dive into a subject 56 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:52.439 that has been really fascinating to me. And I've not 57 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:55.840 really just taken a deep dive yet. I was looking 58 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:01.680 on YouTube into the Hindu belief and the Hindu mythology 59 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:04.680 and all these different things, and I come across this 60 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:09.120 man that was very well researched, very well spoken, and 61 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:11.919 he has the doctor title in front of his name 62 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:15.039 to even back up all of his smart talk too. 63 00:04:15.759 --> 00:04:18.519 So I actually reached out to this person. He was 64 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:20.399 more than willing to come and sit down and talk 65 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:23.240 with us today. So I'm just extremely thankful for this 66 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:25.759 man and his time to sit down and talk with us. 67 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:27.839 But i'd like to introduce for the first time the show, 68 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:31.399 doctor venit Agrivall. I like to just thank you for 69 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:33.519 coming on and welcome to the Prometheus Lands. 70 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:34.199 Doctor Vanie. 71 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:37.279 Thank you so much, Justin for having me on your show. 72 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:40.160 It's a pleasure to be here, and thanks for all 73 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:43.759 the kind words of introduction that you mentioned. I might 74 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:46.680 add that I'm not a PhD doctor. I'm not a doctorate. 75 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.319 I'm a medical doctor, and this just happens to be 76 00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:51.759 a passion that a bass you, so you know, just 77 00:04:51.759 --> 00:04:55.680 to be clear, I'm not a doctorate in Hindu scriptures 78 00:04:55.800 --> 00:04:59.360 or Hindu mythology, but it's definitely something that I've pursued 79 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:04.279 since more than a decade now. So that's why I 80 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:05.720 do sound a little intelligent. 81 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:11.000 Well, if you don't care, just let everybody know a 82 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:13.519 little bit about your past and how you got into 83 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:16.000 this and just give everybody a feel for who you 84 00:05:16.040 --> 00:05:17.399 are for sure. 85 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:20.639 So justin, as I said, or as you said, rather 86 00:05:20.680 --> 00:05:21.480 than I'm a doctor. 87 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:25.279 So that's my basic education. I did my medicine and then. 88 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:30.279 I did my management. Actually I did not pursue practice. 89 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:34.160 I did not join a hospital. I decided to join 90 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:38.040 the pharmaceutical industry. And I'm currently working in a pharma 91 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:43.160 sector with an Indian pharmaceutical And during my work, I 92 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:46.560 actually got to travel a lot, you know, I handle, 93 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:51.360 I interact with a lot of international colleagues across Asia, 94 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:57.560 sometimes Europe, Middle East Africa. And the more I traveled, 95 00:05:57.600 --> 00:05:59.920 the more I realized, you know, there is so much 96 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:04.240 and there's so many similarities amongst the beliefs that we have, 97 00:06:04.480 --> 00:06:08.199 especially the traditional beliefs, you know, the traditional belief systems 98 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:11.959 in each country, whether it's the African nations, whether it's 99 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:17.160 just South East Asia, China, Japan, everything you know, comes 100 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:21.000 from from it appears to come from a single source 101 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:23.360 because there's just too many similarities for it to be 102 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:27.800 a coincidence. And that's how I started to explore it. 103 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:31.839 And I do have a decent knowledge of the Hitdo 104 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:35.639 belief system. But then I decided to dig deeper and 105 00:06:35.839 --> 00:06:39.160 you know, find out all these similarities which were popping 106 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:42.519 up everywhere, and I decided to put it down in 107 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:45.600 a blog. And this was back in twenty eleven. So 108 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:48.519 you know, blogs were the in thing at that time. 109 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:52.399 You feel so old talking about blogs, but you know, 110 00:06:53.399 --> 00:06:55.680 it used to feel good to be called a blog up. 111 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:58.199 And so this blog is called. 112 00:06:58.160 --> 00:06:59.879 You remember the dial up internet day is, don't? 113 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:09.040 Yeah, So this blog is called Decored Hindu Mythology. And 114 00:07:09.079 --> 00:07:11.600 you know, so this the blog actually took off. You know, 115 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.319 I did not know whether anybody would even you know, 116 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:17.600 chance upon it because there was no Internet marketing, There 117 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:20.639 was no Facebook promotions at that time. 118 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:22.680 I did not know how to promote it. 119 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:26.160 But to my surprise, there were people landing on those 120 00:07:26.240 --> 00:07:28.439 articles that I had put on in the blog through 121 00:07:28.480 --> 00:07:32.839 my research, you know, every day about a thousand hits, 122 00:07:32.879 --> 00:07:36.079 you know, from random people across the globe. And that 123 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:38.160 actually kind of showed me that, you know, there is 124 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:40.800 an interest in this topic, and there are others like 125 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:44.120 me who are also trying to explore and understand these 126 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:48.279 commonalities or similarities. Though primarily I have researched more into 127 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:53.160 the Hindu myths, legends, and scriptures, but also tied them up, 128 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:57.399 you know, with the similarities in different world religions, the 129 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:01.639 ancient religions especially, and I think that's how it all started, 130 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:05.519 and then then after they came the books and then podcasts, etc. 131 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:09.680 So now I'm doing this on my weekends, and that's 132 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:12.120 Friday night here in India and I'm sitting here talking 133 00:08:12.160 --> 00:08:12.360 to you. 134 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:17.839 That's right, We're the weekend Warriors of the world. 135 00:08:19.519 --> 00:08:19.920 True. 136 00:08:21.600 --> 00:08:24.199 But yeah, like you said, we was even talking before 137 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:28.879 the show started and how my path was very similar 138 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:32.360 to yours, just looking through all these different things and 139 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:35.720 all the commonalities and the common threads, and we even 140 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:39.360 said before we got started that we are both We 141 00:08:39.399 --> 00:08:42.600 don't believe in coincidence theory. You know, there has to 142 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:46.919 be an ancient source where all this stuff extends, and 143 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:50.120 it's a journey, you know, you have to go out 144 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:54.559 into the unknown and explore these things and bring back 145 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:56.120 the treasures to share with the world. 146 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:01.159 Definite, definitely, because there's just too much to explore. 147 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:01.519 You know. 148 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:05.360 It's it's unfair on our part if we do not 149 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:08.759 try to do that, whether it is of our interest 150 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:10.960 or not, whether it you know, it catches your fancy 151 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:14.440 or not. Uh, that's a different thing. But you will 152 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:17.879 never know unless you actually start exploring. And there's so 153 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:20.799 many movies that have come up now, especially you know, 154 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.120 from Hollywood, there's so many movies that are based on mythology. 155 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:25.279 Everybody knows. 156 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:29.039 Everybody knows, you know, the Clash of the Titans, et cetera, 157 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:33.559 the Percy Jackson movies, Harry Potter had so many references, 158 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:37.120 you know, from Greek and Roman mythologies. So there is 159 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:40.840 an interest, you know, in this the treasure that we 160 00:09:40.960 --> 00:09:45.440 have of knowledge from various ancient mythologies. And it would 161 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:49.919 be foolish too, you know, not dig deeper and not 162 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.159 try to find out, you know, if there is anything 163 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:56.120 of value besides entertainment, if there is any knowledge, if 164 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:59.360 there's any historical knowledge, if there's any scientific data, if 165 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:02.120 there's any large that can be gleaned out of all 166 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:05.039 these stories, and what are they trying to tell us? 167 00:10:05.200 --> 00:10:08.440 How can it help us in our everyday likes today, 168 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:11.480 whether it is relevant or not. You know, we'll only 169 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:15.159 find out if we explore them. 170 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:17.720 Yeah, and you can't rely on other people too, because 171 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:22.039 anybody that knows the Noah's Ark story, for instance, when 172 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:26.279 they come out with that movie Noah, yeah, yeah, I 173 00:10:26.320 --> 00:10:29.440 mean they did go off a lot of common biblical themes, 174 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:31.879 but they took a lot of liberties and put a 175 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:33.759 lot of exists be in on stuff. 176 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:36.759 So it's like, you know, they tell you a partial truth. 177 00:10:36.879 --> 00:10:39.639 So if you enjoy the movies and stuff, you really 178 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:43.039 need to read the material because there's so much more 179 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:47.559 to find out and get your story straight by actually 180 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:51.240 reading the material versus relying on someone else to give 181 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:52.000 you the information. 182 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:54.000 Definitely, definitely. 183 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:57.440 In fact, Noah's arc has a battle in Hindu scriptures 184 00:10:57.480 --> 00:11:00.559 as well. And you know a lot of people l 185 00:11:00.600 --> 00:11:04.960 aanaware that you know, this is not just Abrahamic religion 186 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:09.080 related myth. It is actually a belief that is held 187 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:15.039 by many, many ancient cultures, you know, across geographies, right 188 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:21.840 from Philippines to Africa, to the Native American civilizations to 189 00:11:22.039 --> 00:11:27.840 Sumeiria to Egypt. There's just too many coincidences, you know, 190 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:30.519 there's too many people doing the same thing as what 191 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:34.960 Noah had done. And interestingly, I was just recently visiting 192 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:38.399 a temple in India. It's it's in the northern part 193 00:11:38.399 --> 00:11:42.240 of Indiana near the Himalayan mountains, in the himalaia As actually, 194 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:45.600 and the place is called Manali. It's a hill station 195 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:49.039 and I'd gone for a trek just ahead of Manali 196 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:54.320 a couple of days trek a height and the place 197 00:11:54.519 --> 00:12:00.559 is actually named after Manu, who's the Hindu counterpart of Noah, 198 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:05.399 and Manu is in Hindu scriptures, he's the first man. 199 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:12.080 And interestingly, the root of the English word man is 200 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:16.320 I think it is German or you know German route, 201 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:21.440 which is Manus, which is very similar to Manu, which 202 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:25.480 is the Sanskrit name of the first Man. And you know, 203 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:28.600 it just hit me that, you know, it is not 204 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:32.840 a coincidence. There has to be some relationship here and 205 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:37.039 Manu's ship, the art, the Noah's art is supposed to 206 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:40.440 have landed because the entire world was flooded, so where 207 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:44.080 would it land at the highest peaks, So it makes 208 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:46.919 kind of makes sense that it landed in the Himalayas, 209 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:51.360 and you know the mountains where the ship landed. That 210 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:55.559 particular place was called Manu Alay, which means the home 211 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:59.840 of Manu or the aboard of Manu, which has now 212 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:04.159 got corrupted into Manali. So it comes from Manu Alah 213 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:06.840 and this is Manali. It is a popular head station. 214 00:13:07.080 --> 00:13:10.399 Many Indians visited and most of them still don't know 215 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:13.000 that this is, you know, related to the Noazak story. 216 00:13:13.519 --> 00:13:15.279 So is this amazing? 217 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:17.720 You know what you can find if you just keep 218 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:21.039 your eyes and ears open and mind, especially your mind 219 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:23.879 open and see the possibilities that could be there. 220 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:26.440 Yeah, definitely. 221 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:29.120 It's hard to teach anybody anything if they already know 222 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:31.919 it all. You know, you have to be willing to 223 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:39.320 have these conversations. And wisdom is often found, in my experience, 224 00:13:39.480 --> 00:13:43.679 from the most unexpected places. 225 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:44.679 And nobody's got it all right. 226 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:47.840 So it's like everybody has a little piece of the 227 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:49.159 golden puzzle. 228 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:51.679 So we need to try to gather those. 229 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:53.519 Pieces from as many people as we can and put 230 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:54.679 together a whole picture. 231 00:13:54.960 --> 00:13:58.559 Yes, and we we hope we'll get a true picture, please, 232 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:02.080 as close to the complete picture as we can by 233 00:14:02.200 --> 00:14:03.600 putting all the pieces together. 234 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:05.960 And that's what you're doing. So that's great. 235 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:09.840 I watched a couple of your podcasts, not complete, but I 236 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:12.159 did get a sense of you know what, the kind 237 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:15.720 of interactions you have is definitely useful, you know, to 238 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:19.759 know whatever is available in the and whatever theories are there, 239 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:24.440 whatever experiences people have had, and how it can actually 240 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:28.279 give us a sort of a unified or holistic vision 241 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:32.600 of where humanity is headed or where or where should 242 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:33.559 we should be headed? 243 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:34.159 Ideally? 244 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:38.559 Yeah, yeah, because a lot of people who we like 245 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:41.759 to get in our little tribal boxes, you know, and 246 00:14:43.159 --> 00:14:45.600 section ourselves off, and it's like a lot of times 247 00:14:45.600 --> 00:14:48.080 we forget, you know, we are one race. 248 00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:49.759 We are the human race, you know. 249 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:52.919 Yeah, Man newst Children. 250 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:59.000 Yeah, Well, I wanted to go through some of these 251 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:02.519 stories and have you just go into detail and inform 252 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:05.279 us on some of it. But I definitely wanted to 253 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:12.799 hear about the creation and the flood story. And I 254 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:13.840 know you touched on. 255 00:15:13.840 --> 00:15:14.360 That a little bit. 256 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:16.720 But if we can, like this rewind a little bit 257 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:20.200 and go to the creation and get that from your 258 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:23.519 perspective in all the stories surrounding creation. 259 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:29.879 Sure, so I think you know, the story of creation 260 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:33.919 and Hinduism is a bit different from how it is 261 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:37.320 told in the Abrahamic religions, and it is a little 262 00:15:37.440 --> 00:15:40.919 more it starts a little more abstract and then it 263 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:44.799 becomes more concrete. So the oldest scriptures that we have 264 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:47.639 in Hinduism, which is the Riga Da, you know, the Vedas, 265 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:52.159 and they are believed to be at least from fifteen 266 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:54.919 hundred PC one thousand and five hundred PC. That was 267 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:58.080 when they were written down, but they existed for the 268 00:15:58.120 --> 00:16:02.120 longest time. They survived and they thrived through an oral 269 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:05.600 tradition of passing down the scriptures. So we really don't 270 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:08.559 know the antiquity of these scriptures, but it runs into 271 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:12.240 thousands of years, you know, before. 272 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:12.679 The common error. 273 00:16:13.399 --> 00:16:18.600 And the scriptures talk about and a primal man a 274 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:19.960 cosmic porosh. 275 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:22.320 So the so man is. 276 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:25.320 Not literally a man or a male. It just means 277 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:31.320 the primal being. So the primal being actually created this 278 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:34.600 entire universe around us. 279 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:36.600 That's what the riguea tells us. 280 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:41.159 Now, the stories are more detailed in other scriptures, other 281 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:44.679 Hindus scriptures, which are called the Puranas. The Puranas have 282 00:16:44.759 --> 00:16:48.279 detailed stories, you know, where whereas rigue that has prayer 283 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:53.000 has more verses or hymns or prayers to the gods. 284 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:54.440 They are the odes to the gods. 285 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:57.639 But the Puranas detail the stories of the gods and 286 00:16:57.679 --> 00:17:01.879 the kings. So in the Puranas you find the entire 287 00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:08.839 creation story way beautifully narrated, and it begins with a 288 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:12.359 form of Lord wish No, I'll have to give you 289 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:15.160 a little bit of background before I go into the story. Right, 290 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:18.359 So primarily. You know, a lot of people believe that 291 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:22.519 Hinduism is a polytheistic religion. You know, we have multiple gods, 292 00:17:22.599 --> 00:17:24.279 just like the Greeks or the Romans did, or the 293 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:28.200 Egyptians did. But that's only partially true. You know, what 294 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:32.960 is actually believed in Hinduism is that all these multiple 295 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:36.359 gods or multiple forms of the God, and they are 296 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:41.319 actually emanating from the same supreme being. So there's one 297 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:47.240 universal supreme being whom we know as God, and there's 298 00:17:47.279 --> 00:17:53.000 God manifests himself or herself itself let's be gender neutral here, 299 00:17:53.440 --> 00:18:00.200 but God manifests in various forms for various functions. So 300 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:04.680 three of these major forms that we believe in Hinduism 301 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:11.359 of the creator, the preserver, and the destroyer. So of course, 302 00:18:11.400 --> 00:18:13.240 you know, for the universe to come into being, it 303 00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:16.359 has to be created by someone. For it to continue 304 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:19.599 functioning smoothly, there has to be a preserver or a manager. 305 00:18:20.319 --> 00:18:22.680 And at the end of time, because we believe time 306 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:27.279 is cyclical, it's not linear. So there's creation, there's preservation, 307 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:32.000 there's destruction, and then again creation begins, so somebody has 308 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:35.519 to be responsible for that destruction bit as well. So 309 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:38.279 we have three major gods. It is the Hindu trinity, 310 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:40.920 just like you have in Christianity, there's a trinity. There's 311 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:44.839 a trinity in Hinduism as well of Brahma who's the creator, 312 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:50.160 Vishno who's the preserver, and Shiver who's the destroyer. So 313 00:18:50.200 --> 00:18:53.279 these are the three major gods, and besides them is 314 00:18:53.359 --> 00:18:58.440 the Shakti, which is energy, who's considered as the feminine 315 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:02.200 aspect of God. So this is you know, the divine 316 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:06.799 feminine who's also worshiped in Hinduism along with the male gods. 317 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:10.079 So again, you know, these are symbolic. The male and 318 00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:13.599 female genders are very symbolic. But what it is trying 319 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:16.039 to tell us is that, you know, there are different 320 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:19.680 aspects to this universe, you know. 321 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:22.559 And one concept cannot cover everything. 322 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:27.880 You have to have multiple angers or multiple perspectives of 323 00:19:28.079 --> 00:19:31.960 understanding the supreme being of you know, the reality. 324 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:35.400 So from here the creation begins. 325 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:40.799 Now Brahma is the creator and Brahma emerges from Wishno, 326 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:44.559 and very symbolically, you know, the A lot of people 327 00:19:44.599 --> 00:19:48.519 think of these stories as very fantastical, uh, you know, 328 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:53.000 and they don't believe that it's actually true, but they 329 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:57.359 are very symbolic stories. You know, Lord wish no who 330 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:01.160 is giving rise to multiple universes. There's also the concept 331 00:20:01.160 --> 00:20:04.599 of multiverse in Indusen and it is said that every 332 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:09.559 time wish Snow exhales, there is a universe that pops 333 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:14.119 out from each of his body poor So you know 334 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:17.079 we have I don't know a million, more than a 335 00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:21.640 million body poores probably, so there's millions of universes coming 336 00:20:21.680 --> 00:20:26.559 out of Vishnu's body every time he exhales. 337 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:28.880 And when he is. 338 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:32.880 I'm sorry, I was gonna say, I was going to say, 339 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:35.720 don't they say to you? And when he inhales, that 340 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:40.240 is the destruction cycle exactly for every universe he creates. 341 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:42.079 There's a brahma also. 342 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:45.759 Yes, so when he inhales, the universes go back into 343 00:20:45.759 --> 00:20:48.240 his body and that is the life of the universe. 344 00:20:48.839 --> 00:20:51.920 The life of the universe is one breath of Wishnoo. 345 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:56.440 So imagine the grand concept of God that is there 346 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:01.119 in the Puranas. 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It's 385 00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:39.240 not human years, it's not human We're not talking about 386 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:44.039 solar years here. We're talking about uh in truth. You know, 387 00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:45.960 if you do the calculation, it comes out to about 388 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:50.920 three hundred and eleven trillion human years the life of Brahma. 389 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:54.119 And this is the calculation that comes from the scriptures. 390 00:23:54.799 --> 00:24:00.960 So Brahma emerges, and again it's very symbolic. Vishno applies space, 391 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:04.359 you know, the concept of Vishtu that you're talking about, 392 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.039 because there's multiple universes coming out of him. He's space 393 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:11.200 manifested as a deity, right, And Brahma is the material 394 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:16.720 creation and from Brahma. So Brahma joining coming out from 395 00:24:16.759 --> 00:24:21.400 a lotus which is joined to Vishnu's naval. It's against 396 00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:25.400 symbolic of the umbilical cord that connects a child with 397 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:26.000 its mother. 398 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:31.799 Right. So this is the symbolism that you find in puranas. 399 00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:35.240 A lot of people just criticize the scriptures without understanding 400 00:24:35.279 --> 00:24:37.680 the meaning. But this these are this is what they're 401 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:40.599