Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
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Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property, And for this week of November eighteenth,
Speaker 1: we are continuing with Lost Season one, episode twenty Do
Speaker 1: No Harm Annoyed, which one boy dies, one boy is born,
Speaker 1: that total of castaways stays the same. Up, oh boon.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was pretty pretty grim, and yet really was,
Speaker 2: and yet the flashback is all about Jack, Like, let's
Speaker 2: make it all about me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one more flashback on the way out, come on.
Speaker 1: Oh but hi, Julie Bowen. Hey, yeah, I remember you
Speaker 1: did not in between Ed and The Modern Family, I believe.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I didn't realize she was gonna be here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw her on that, We saw her in
Speaker 1: the opening credits, and Rick was like, Julie Bowen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't say he was Jack's wife. She was Jack's wife,
Speaker 1: but he did not remember, so I didn't spoil it.
Speaker 1: But it really looked there right until the end of
Speaker 1: his vows, like it was going to go south.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I even thought it still sounded like like
Speaker 2: they just kissed, and I was like, are they married
Speaker 2: or did he just break up with her even though
Speaker 2: they're kissing right now, Because it's hard. It really sounded
Speaker 2: like he.
Speaker 1: Just terry should be Should he be flirting around with
Speaker 1: Kate there on the island, I don't know. Should he
Speaker 1: be worried about getting back to his wife, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's unclear.
Speaker 2: Does he wear a wedding ring? I haven't noticed.
Speaker 1: Well, I suppose we could have many more flashbacks about
Speaker 1: their marriage and therefore it's not a concern. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that was you know, he doesn't like to go let
Speaker 1: go of things, but also not the most decisive dude,
Speaker 1: you know do or don't do? There is no well,
Speaker 1: I love you, and therefore Lesnion getting right. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: her At the same time, her declarations of love sounded oh,
Speaker 1: very much like doctor, you saved me here, let me
Speaker 1: marry you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I was a guy listening to that, I might feel
Speaker 1: like not sure about this. And and then also, oh, Jack,
Speaker 1: do not take relationship advice from your father?
Speaker 2: What are you thinking?
Speaker 1: Do not take any advice at all. The devil has
Speaker 1: come to sit with you. You got about your situation. The
Speaker 1: appropriate response is to run screaming, not share a bottle
Speaker 1: in a pool with him.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but those were somewhat rough flashbacks, but the whole,
Speaker 1: the whole current thing. Yeah, if somebody said to you
Speaker 1: you have to deliver her baby, would you be able
Speaker 1: to do that?
Speaker 2: And also why Kate, Like.
Speaker 1: God's gotta be Kate. She's She's next on the list. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see, we got a crisis. Jack's busy, Kate.
Speaker 2: You're right, you're tagging.
Speaker 1: Would think Kate should have been with Jack and Son,
Speaker 1: should have been delivering the baby? Yeah, sons, she seems
Speaker 1: like a resourceful girl. I think she's got it.
Speaker 2: She's she's uh yeah, she seems very capable. And she
Speaker 2: could also.
Speaker 1: Order communicate with with Jin. Gin could be hey, you
Speaker 1: guy who doesn't speak English, go help with the child birthing.
Speaker 1: It'll be fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could. He could be her her nurse while
Speaker 2: she's being Jack.
Speaker 1: You weren't thinking clearly, your staffing clearly wasn't your strong
Speaker 1: suit there back at the hospital, h oh Man. But
Speaker 1: although I did enjoy Charlie and Jin sort of sitting
Speaker 1: back going yeah, I'm not going anywhere near but no,
Speaker 1: I think Charlie at one time started to get up
Speaker 1: and Gin went, no, not for us, don't do that.
Speaker 1: Do we go get some cigars? That's what friend, that's
Speaker 1: what men do.
Speaker 2: Go find that Walgreens that we talked about, some balloons
Speaker 2: and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Nice floral arrangement.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was nice at the end when after the
Speaker 2: baby's born and Claire's showing him off to all the
Speaker 2: castaways and like, oh, look at all these people we have.
Speaker 1: There was like a couple of guys we have never
Speaker 1: definitely looking very happy. How do we know they're not
Speaker 1: others ready to kidnap the baby?
Speaker 2: We don't.
Speaker 1: Everybody should have an id badge at this point, don't
Speaker 1: you think, yep, I should have their papers on them
Speaker 1: at all times.
Speaker 2: Great hmm, yeah, son Son made a great nurse. I
Speaker 2: guess she seemed to be trained. I mean, she really knew.
Speaker 1: She did do. Do you have any evidence that she was trained?
Speaker 2: I don't know. All she did before was the a
Speaker 2: trophy daughter and then a trophy wife.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, maybe she found some books in the
Speaker 1: crowd play. Yeah, and she's been self teaching.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: One thing that she is skilled out that probably even
Speaker 1: the nurses back at the hospital Jack worked out, we're
Speaker 1: not trained is telling Jack cut in right out, stop
Speaker 1: that no more stop. She was able to get through
Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, I guess Boone also said. You know,
Speaker 1: Boone also was coming back from the near dead to say, dude,
Speaker 1: stop cut it out.
Speaker 2: I don't want this.
Speaker 1: Don't cut it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Goodness, But Shannon didn't come back in time to say goodbye. Boy.
Speaker 1: That nothing puts a damper on a romantic night at
Speaker 1: the beach like coming back to find out that your
Speaker 1: brother is dead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure. You know, Boone did he want
Speaker 2: her to be there? I don't know. He might have
Speaker 2: been just like, well he was like tell her, I said,
Speaker 2: I said, or you know, he said, tell her, and
Speaker 2: then he never said when it.
Speaker 1: Was Yeah, it sounded like he was going to say
Speaker 1: I love her, but maybe he was just going to say,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be rid of her. I have
Speaker 1: to die, so be it. But ah, in summer Holder,
Speaker 1: we hardly knew you. I feel like he's not going
Speaker 1: to be back in a flashback. Yeah, yeah, certainly a
Speaker 1: Shannon flashback maybe.
Speaker 2: But well, it does seem like no one's ever really
Speaker 2: gone on this show.
Speaker 1: Right, Well depends on whether they can stick around to
Speaker 1: Hawaii or they got to go back to the mainland.
Speaker 2: Right, I guess we won't. We haven't seen Tom Cruise's
Speaker 2: cousin anymore, No, we have not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Jack has quite a little surgical set up there.
Speaker 1: He's they're like courting all these things for various medicinal purposes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little cabinet or backpacker, I don't know what it was.
Speaker 1: He had all this surgery stuff in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, put up a shower curtain.
Speaker 1: The whole logistics of doing this, I mean, it had
Speaker 1: been in the dark. Nobody can ever get hurt or
Speaker 1: give birth during the day. You're gonna amputate this guy's
Speaker 1: leg at night on a beach with minimal supplies. You're
Speaker 1: gonna do it with a cargo door from an airports boy,
Speaker 1: and you expect he's gonna survive this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is the same Jack who throttled Charlie back
Speaker 1: to life and who nearly throttled that other guy to death.
Speaker 1: It's like stop, Yeah, he is messed up. Everybody's a
Speaker 1: little mess except Son, Sun's son seems pretty on it right,
Speaker 1: and Kate Kate did a good job too. Son and
Speaker 1: Kate were score one for the females. And Claire you know, yeah, she.
Speaker 2: Was gonna hold that baby inside. She was determined until
Speaker 2: Kate talked her out of it. That would be impressive, girl.
Speaker 1: Baby belongs to all of them. We need a little
Speaker 1: inspiration right now. Boone is dying. We need to feel
Speaker 1: good about something happening.
Speaker 2: A baby, Yes, we definitely needed that, you know, hit
Speaker 2: on the head of symbolism of one goes and one arrives.
Speaker 1: That's right, oh, a little baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't show that, you know, messy after parts
Speaker 2: of giving birth, like how did she cut the core?
Speaker 2: Did she deliver the placenta. How did she know that
Speaker 2: she delivered all the placenta? Like, this is the kind
Speaker 2: of stuff that comes back to bite people on TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll see. Yeah, that's why you don't have
Speaker 1: amateur doing your childbirth. But you know, I guess there
Speaker 1: was a time when there were no professionals and people
Speaker 1: still have babies. So yeah, made a good made a
Speaker 1: good contrast between the two scenes.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: My husband's first question afterwards, when when they were bringing
Speaker 1: the baby out to the beach to show everybody, is
Speaker 1: where'd they got baby clothes?
Speaker 2: It's just wrapped in a towel.
Speaker 1: They went down to the island Walgreens and they picked
Speaker 1: up a nice lay it. But yeah, it just looks
Speaker 1: like it's towels or something. But yeah, still one of
Speaker 1: those doesn't look.
Speaker 2: In airplane blankets that's made out of questionable substance.
Speaker 1: Absolutely every scrap of everything. Did they just keep some
Speaker 1: aside for for Claire's future needs? I guess they have diapers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna have diapers. They're gonna have to have cloth.
Speaker 1: Was there a big shipment of Pampers in the back
Speaker 1: of the plane that they've been putting aside?
Speaker 2: Probably for the benefit of this show. There is just
Speaker 2: like all the shampoo and everything else.
Speaker 1: We were walking through the jungle and we found this
Speaker 1: crate and we opened the hatch, and turns out it's
Speaker 1: a diaper store. They also have all sorts of Gerber's products.
Speaker 1: It's good, We're fine, We're set. It was the baby hatch.
Speaker 2: The baby hatch. Yeah, Lock can make a cradle and
Speaker 2: everything else the plane provides.
Speaker 1: Well, if Lock can make a cradle and Lock can
Speaker 1: make glue, can Lock like make some diapers? What do
Speaker 1: they put in those things, those little beads they put
Speaker 1: in those things to absorb stuff? Oh? Yeah, probably he
Speaker 1: could whip up some of that, or just cut a
Speaker 1: big sheet of big clean sheet of something into a
Speaker 1: bunch of pieces.
Speaker 2: Or figure out how to use like leaves.
Speaker 1: Yes, well Sun should be able to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Sun will be delivering a big pile of natural diapers
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. I love it, capable woman.
Speaker 2: Yes, this I mean the flashbacks gave us He's getting
Speaker 2: he got married. I feel like that was about it.
Speaker 2: Like everything else in the flashbacks, we already knew about.
Speaker 1: Jack, right, Yeah, no, there was now no new revelations.
Speaker 1: Other than that he might be married. But it seemed
Speaker 1: to be there for the purpose of saying he doesn't
Speaker 1: give up or he never doesn't know when to let go, right,
Speaker 1: I guess was the thing which we knew already. Yeah,
Speaker 1: see previously previous comments about him pumbling. He could not
Speaker 1: do that with Boone sadly, although he's always gonna think
Speaker 1: if I had got his legal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they have crutches and bandages and physical therapy
Speaker 2: on the island.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well, assuming he doesn't die for a massive
Speaker 1: bleeding out when his legs are moving and because catastrophic
Speaker 1: infections because he's got this huge open wound. But you
Speaker 1: know there's no prosthetics. No, they'll come across a crate
Speaker 1: in the jungle little bit.
Speaker 2: Well, that's another thing Locke will have to do to
Speaker 2: you know, atone for his sins.
Speaker 1: Where was that wheelchair? Yes, it was here somewhere. Oh, lock,
Speaker 1: lock lock. He's in big trouble now. Yes, Jack is
Speaker 1: coming for him. Why didn't you tell me a plane
Speaker 1: fell on him? Do you even explain there was this plane?
Speaker 2: Well, and I don't know how much would it have mattered.
Speaker 1: Like, well, I guess it's a difference between a break
Speaker 1: and a crushing.
Speaker 2: Right, But I mean, couldn't he sort of see I
Speaker 2: don't know one would think like one would think. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, theoretically Jack is thinking that if he had known,
Speaker 1: he could have treated him better. But I think that
Speaker 1: because he has trouble letting go.
Speaker 2: Have you heard? Yeah, yeah, that is magical thinking from
Speaker 2: Jack if you ask.
Speaker 1: Me, yeah, well you know, I guess pretty much all
Speaker 1: he's got, right, yes, especially because everybody turns to him
Speaker 1: and says, save us please, right, so a little better pressure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he was doing the dad thing of I
Speaker 2: will fix.
Speaker 1: It, yes, and absolutely was.
Speaker 2: Son was doing the mom thing of I will fix
Speaker 2: everything better and also tell you when to knock it off.
Speaker 1: Yes. Unfortunately he listened to her, well, he listened to
Speaker 1: Boonebe even more. But yeah, now that she's allowed to
Speaker 1: speak English, she's a very interesting character. She seems to
Speaker 1: keep popping up doing things very effectual. Yeah, construction of
Speaker 1: the raft continues, Yeah, on a pace. They got to
Speaker 1: get it done by the end of the season. Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, guys, season finale, Cliffhanger, we got to get
Speaker 1: that raft going, Come on the top, chop.
Speaker 2: I don't know, this feels very gilling in z Island,
Speaker 2: like we're always coming up with something and it's never
Speaker 2: actually going to do anything.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll see, we'll see. We're watching it with
Speaker 1: captions on, and I was noticing at one point the
Speaker 1: music in this thing, which is like another character, is
Speaker 1: by Michael Jcino Chino or Jakino, I'm not sure, but
Speaker 1: became very famously by him. And I was noticing in
Speaker 1: the captions when some music played they mentioned his name
Speaker 1: such and such by or Michael Giacchino music here or something.
Speaker 2: That nobody else gets that treatment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know it was. It really did get,
Speaker 1: especially by the end, to be appreciated as you know,
Speaker 1: department of creating suspense and putting a bullet on things
Speaker 1: and just you know, yeah, very effective music. And I
Speaker 1: always enjoyed it. I had listened to for a while.
Speaker 1: I like listening to instrumental music when I work, and
Speaker 1: there's a CD of his songs from the show, his
Speaker 1: music from the show, and if we call them songs,
Speaker 1: if they're wereless does music from Lost and it doesn't
Speaker 1: fun to stress you out, like it was very fun.
Speaker 1: Just every now and then there's a or they just
Speaker 1: like it. Goes from a major key to a minor
Speaker 1: key and you're like, uh, something happened here, but a
Speaker 1: lot of it is just lovely. So check that out
Speaker 1: on Apple Music if you can get to it. Okay,
Speaker 1: get you in the moo. So next week we saw
Speaker 1: ever closer to the end of the season with episode
Speaker 1: twenty one of Lost the Greater Good. Now, who is
Speaker 1: that a flashback of Lost? Apedia help us out. I
Speaker 1: would say it sounds like a Jack episode, but just
Speaker 1: have it. I cannot cannot be that is Sayid ah.
Speaker 1: And I know this because we accidentally as what happens
Speaker 1: when you're watching stuff on Netflix. I was pretty sure
Speaker 1: that Jack saying Boone didn't die, he was murdered and
Speaker 1: he stalks off into the jungle to find Low, and
Speaker 1: I thought that was the end of the episode. And
Speaker 1: then there was a scene with Shannon with Boone's body
Speaker 1: and Sayid looking on, and I thought, is this the
Speaker 1: end of the episode, And then there was a Sayid flashback,
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, wait a minute, Rick, we accidentally
Speaker 1: went on to the next episode. Netflix could at least
Speaker 1: throw up a yo new episode up here we go.
Speaker 1: Pay attention, don't get spoiled. So yes, that is a
Speaker 1: say eed episode we were skipping over. Apparently there was
Speaker 1: a recap episode that was released called Lost the Journey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not on Netflix.
Speaker 1: So it's not on Netflix. But we're just to have
Speaker 1: watched them all in one big lump. We probably don't
Speaker 1: need a recap, yeah, as opposed to have we watched
Speaker 1: them over the course of the year. Right, So we
Speaker 1: have four more episodes, two of which are a part
Speaker 1: one Part two. So okay, getting close to the end
Speaker 1: of that first season. Yeah, okay, the end of the
Speaker 1: first season, you get to decide are you done with
Speaker 1: this or are you having trouble letting go? Okay, it
Speaker 1: off like a crushed linking if you wanna, Am I.
Speaker 2: Going to have someone wise advising.
Speaker 1: Me some good stuff ahead? Anyway, we'll see you back
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