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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout Podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property, And for this week of November eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>we are continuing with Lost Season one, episode twenty Do

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<v Speaker 1>No Harm Annoyed, which one boy dies, one boy is born,

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<v Speaker 1>that total of castaways stays the same. Up, oh boon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that was pretty pretty grim, and yet really was,

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<v Speaker 2>and yet the flashback is all about Jack, Like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>make it all about me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one more flashback on the way out, come on.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh but hi, Julie Bowen. Hey, yeah, I remember you

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<v Speaker 1>did not in between Ed and The Modern Family, I believe.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I didn't realize she was gonna be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we saw her on that, We saw her in

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<v Speaker 1>the opening credits, and Rick was like, Julie Bowen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say he was Jack's wife. She was Jack's wife,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did not remember, so I didn't spoil it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it really looked there right until the end of

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<v Speaker 1>his vows, like it was going to go south.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I even thought it still sounded like like

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<v Speaker 2>they just kissed, and I was like, are they married

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<v Speaker 2>or did he just break up with her even though

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<v Speaker 2>they're kissing right now, Because it's hard. It really sounded

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<v Speaker 2>like he.

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<v Speaker 1>Just terry should be Should he be flirting around with

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<v Speaker 1>Kate there on the island, I don't know. Should he

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<v Speaker 1>be worried about getting back to his wife, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unclear.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he wear a wedding ring? I haven't noticed.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I suppose we could have many more flashbacks about

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<v Speaker 1>their marriage and therefore it's not a concern. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was you know, he doesn't like to go let

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<v Speaker 1>go of things, but also not the most decisive dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you know do or don't do? There is no well,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, and therefore Lesnion getting right. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>her At the same time, her declarations of love sounded oh,

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<v Speaker 1>very much like doctor, you saved me here, let me

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<v Speaker 1>marry you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a guy listening to that, I might feel

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<v Speaker 1>like not sure about this. And and then also, oh, Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>do not take relationship advice from your father?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you thinking?

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<v Speaker 1>Do not take any advice at all. The devil has

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<v Speaker 1>come to sit with you. You got about your situation. The

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate response is to run screaming, not share a bottle

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<v Speaker 1>in a pool with him.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but those were somewhat rough flashbacks, but the whole,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole current thing. Yeah, if somebody said to you

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<v Speaker 1>you have to deliver her baby, would you be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>And also why Kate, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>God's gotta be Kate. She's She's next on the list. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see, we got a crisis. Jack's busy, Kate.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, you're tagging.

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<v Speaker 1>Would think Kate should have been with Jack and Son,

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<v Speaker 1>should have been delivering the baby? Yeah, sons, she seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a resourceful girl. I think she's got it.

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<v Speaker 2>She's she's uh yeah, she seems very capable. And she

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<v Speaker 2>could also.

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<v Speaker 1>Order communicate with with Jin. Gin could be hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>guy who doesn't speak English, go help with the child birthing.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he could. He could be her her nurse while

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<v Speaker 2>she's being Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>You weren't thinking clearly, your staffing clearly wasn't your strong

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<v Speaker 1>suit there back at the hospital, h oh Man. But

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<v Speaker 1>although I did enjoy Charlie and Jin sort of sitting

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<v Speaker 1>I think Charlie at one time started to get up

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<v Speaker 1>and Gin went, no, not for us, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we go get some cigars? That's what friend, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what men do.

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<v Speaker 2>Go find that Walgreens that we talked about, some balloons

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<v Speaker 1>Nice floral arrangement.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was nice at the end when after the

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<v Speaker 2>castaways and like, oh, look at all these people we have.

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<v Speaker 1>There was like a couple of guys we have never

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<v Speaker 1>definitely looking very happy. How do we know they're not

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<v Speaker 1>others ready to kidnap the baby?

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<v Speaker 2>We don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody should have an id badge at this point, don't

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<v Speaker 1>you think, yep, I should have their papers on them

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<v Speaker 1>at all times.

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<v Speaker 2>Great hmm, yeah, son Son made a great nurse. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess she seemed to be trained. I mean, she really knew.

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<v Speaker 1>She did do. Do you have any evidence that she was trained?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. All she did before was the a

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<v Speaker 2>trophy daughter and then a trophy wife.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, maybe she found some books in the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd play. Yeah, and she's been self teaching.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that she is skilled out that probably even

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<v Speaker 1>the nurses back at the hospital Jack worked out, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not trained is telling Jack cut in right out, stop

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<v Speaker 1>that no more stop. She was able to get through

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<v Speaker 1>to him. Yeah, I guess Boone also said. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Boone also was coming back from the near dead to say, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>stop cut it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want this.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't cut it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Goodness, But Shannon didn't come back in time to say goodbye. Boy.

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<v Speaker 1>That nothing puts a damper on a romantic night at

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<v Speaker 1>the beach like coming back to find out that your

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not sure. You know, Boone did he want

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<v Speaker 2>her to be there? I don't know. He might have

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<v Speaker 2>been just like, well he was like tell her, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, or you know, he said, tell her, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he never said when it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Yeah, it sounded like he was going to say

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<v Speaker 1>I love her, but maybe he was just going to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy to be rid of her. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to die, so be it. But ah, in summer Holder,

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<v Speaker 1>we hardly knew you. I feel like he's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be back in a flashback. Yeah, yeah, certainly a

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon flashback maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, it does seem like no one's ever really

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<v Speaker 2>gone on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well depends on whether they can stick around to

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<v Speaker 1>Hawaii or they got to go back to the mainland.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I guess we won't. We haven't seen Tom Cruise's

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<v Speaker 2>cousin anymore, No, we have not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Jack has quite a little surgical set up there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's they're like courting all these things for various medicinal purposes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a little cabinet or backpacker, I don't know what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>He had all this surgery stuff in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, put up a shower curtain.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole logistics of doing this, I mean, it had

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<v Speaker 1>been in the dark. Nobody can ever get hurt or

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<v Speaker 1>give birth during the day. You're gonna amputate this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>leg at night on a beach with minimal supplies. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it with a cargo door from an airports boy,

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<v Speaker 1>and you expect he's gonna survive this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this is the same Jack who throttled Charlie back

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<v Speaker 1>to life and who nearly throttled that other guy to death.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like stop, Yeah, he is messed up. Everybody's a

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<v Speaker 1>little mess except Son, Sun's son seems pretty on it right,

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<v Speaker 1>and Kate Kate did a good job too. Son and

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<v Speaker 1>Kate were score one for the females. And Claire you know, yeah, she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was gonna hold that baby inside. She was determined until

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<v Speaker 2>Kate talked her out of it. That would be impressive, girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby belongs to all of them. We need a little

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<v Speaker 1>inspiration right now. Boone is dying. We need to feel

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<v Speaker 1>good about something happening.

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<v Speaker 2>A baby, Yes, we definitely needed that, you know, hit

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<v Speaker 2>on the head of symbolism of one goes and one arrives.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, oh, a little baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they didn't show that, you know, messy after parts

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<v Speaker 2>of giving birth, like how did she cut the core?

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<v Speaker 2>Did she deliver the placenta. How did she know that

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<v Speaker 2>she delivered all the placenta? Like, this is the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff that comes back to bite people on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we'll see. Yeah, that's why you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>amateur doing your childbirth. But you know, I guess there

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<v Speaker 1>was a time when there were no professionals and people

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<v Speaker 1>still have babies. So yeah, made a good made a

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<v Speaker 1>good contrast between the two scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>My husband's first question afterwards, when when they were bringing

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<v Speaker 1>the baby out to the beach to show everybody, is

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<v Speaker 1>where'd they got baby clothes?

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<v Speaker 2>It's just wrapped in a towel.

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<v Speaker 1>They went down to the island Walgreens and they picked

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<v Speaker 1>up a nice lay it. But yeah, it just looks

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<v Speaker 1>like it's towels or something. But yeah, still one of

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<v Speaker 1>those doesn't look.

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<v Speaker 2>In airplane blankets that's made out of questionable substance.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely every scrap of everything. Did they just keep some

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<v Speaker 1>aside for for Claire's future needs? I guess they have diapers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're gonna have diapers. They're gonna have to have cloth.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a big shipment of Pampers in the back

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<v Speaker 1>of the plane that they've been putting aside?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably for the benefit of this show. There is just

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<v Speaker 2>like all the shampoo and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>We were walking through the jungle and we found this

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<v Speaker 1>crate and we opened the hatch, and turns out it's

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<v Speaker 1>a diaper store. They also have all sorts of Gerber's products.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good, We're fine, We're set. It was the baby hatch.

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<v Speaker 2>The baby hatch. Yeah, Lock can make a cradle and

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<v Speaker 2>everything else the plane provides.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if Lock can make a cradle and Lock can

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<v Speaker 1>make glue, can Lock like make some diapers? What do

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<v Speaker 1>they put in those things, those little beads they put

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<v Speaker 1>in those things to absorb stuff? Oh? Yeah, probably he

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<v Speaker 1>could whip up some of that, or just cut a

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<v Speaker 1>big sheet of big clean sheet of something into a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>Or figure out how to use like leaves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well Sun should be able to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Sun will be delivering a big pile of natural diapers

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<v Speaker 1>on a regular basis. I love it, capable woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this I mean the flashbacks gave us He's getting

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<v Speaker 2>he got married. I feel like that was about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like everything else in the flashbacks, we already knew about.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack, right, Yeah, no, there was now no new revelations.

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<v Speaker 1>Other than that he might be married. But it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>give up or he never doesn't know when to let go, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess was the thing which we knew already. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>see previously previous comments about him pumbling. He could not

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<v Speaker 1>if I had got his legal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because they have crutches and bandages and physical therapy

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, Well, assuming he doesn't die for a massive

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<v Speaker 1>know there's no prosthetics. No, they'll come across a crate

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's another thing Locke will have to do to

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<v Speaker 1>Where was that wheelchair? Yes, it was here somewhere. Oh, lock,

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<v Speaker 1>lock lock. He's in big trouble now. Yes, Jack is

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<v Speaker 1>coming for him. Why didn't you tell me a plane

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<v Speaker 1>fell on him? Do you even explain there was this plane?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I don't know how much would it have mattered.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, well, I guess it's a difference between a break

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But I mean, couldn't he sort of see I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know one would think like one would think. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, theoretically Jack is thinking that if he had known,

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<v Speaker 1>he could have treated him better. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>because he has trouble letting go.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard? Yeah, yeah, that is magical thinking from

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<v Speaker 2>Jack if you ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, yeah, well you know, I guess pretty much all

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<v Speaker 1>he's got, right, yes, especially because everybody turns to him

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<v Speaker 1>and says, save us please, right, so a little better pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So he was doing the dad thing of I

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<v Speaker 2>will fix.

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<v Speaker 1>It, yes, and absolutely was.

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<v Speaker 2>Son was doing the mom thing of I will fix

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<v Speaker 2>everything better and also tell you when to knock it off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Unfortunately he listened to her, well, he listened to

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<v Speaker 1>Boonebe even more. But yeah, now that she's allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>speak English, she's a very interesting character. She seems to

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<v Speaker 1>keep popping up doing things very effectual. Yeah, construction of

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<v Speaker 1>the raft continues, Yeah, on a pace. They got to

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<v Speaker 1>get it done by the end of the season. Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, guys, season finale, Cliffhanger, we got to get

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, this feels very gilling in z Island,

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<v Speaker 2>like we're always coming up with something and it's never

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we'll see, we'll see. We're watching it with

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<v Speaker 1>captions on, and I was noticing at one point the

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<v Speaker 1>music in this thing, which is like another character, is

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<v Speaker 1>by Michael Jcino Chino or Jakino, I'm not sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>became very famously by him. And I was noticing in

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<v Speaker 1>the captions when some music played they mentioned his name

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<v Speaker 1>such and such by or Michael Giacchino music here or something.

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<v Speaker 2>That nobody else gets that treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I know it was. It really did get,

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<v Speaker 1>especially by the end, to be appreciated as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>department of creating suspense and putting a bullet on things

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<v Speaker 1>and just you know, yeah, very effective music. And I

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<v Speaker 1>always enjoyed it. I had listened to for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I like listening to instrumental music when I work, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a CD of his songs from the show, his

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<v Speaker 1>music from the show, and if we call them songs,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're wereless does music from Lost and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>fun to stress you out, like it was very fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Just every now and then there's a or they just

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<v Speaker 1>like it. Goes from a major key to a minor

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<v Speaker 1>key and you're like, uh, something happened here, but a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of it is just lovely. So check that out

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<v Speaker 1>on Apple Music if you can get to it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>get you in the moo. So next week we saw

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<v Speaker 1>ever closer to the end of the season with episode

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one of Lost the Greater Good. Now, who is

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<v Speaker 1>that a flashback of Lost? Apedia help us out. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say it sounds like a Jack episode, but just

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<v Speaker 1>have it. I cannot cannot be that is Sayid ah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know this because we accidentally as what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when you're watching stuff on Netflix. I was pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>that Jack saying Boone didn't die, he was murdered and

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<v Speaker 1>he stalks off into the jungle to find Low, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was the end of the episode. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there was a scene with Shannon with Boone's body

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<v Speaker 1>and Sayid looking on, and I thought, is this the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the episode, And then there was a Sayid flashback,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, oh, wait a minute, Rick, we accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>went on to the next episode. Netflix could at least

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<v Speaker 1>throw up a yo new episode up here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Pay attention, don't get spoiled. So yes, that is a

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<v Speaker 1>say eed episode we were skipping over. Apparently there was

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<v Speaker 1>a recap episode that was released called Lost the Journey.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not on Netflix. But we're just to have

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<v Speaker 1>watched them all in one big lump. We probably don't

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<v Speaker 1>need a recap, yeah, as opposed to have we watched

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<v Speaker 1>them over the course of the year. Right, So we

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<v Speaker 1>have four more episodes, two of which are a part

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<v Speaker 1>one Part two. So okay, getting close to the end

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<v Speaker 1>of that first season. Yeah, okay, the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>first season, you get to decide are you done with

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<v Speaker 1>this or are you having trouble letting go? Okay, it

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<v Speaker 1>off like a crushed linking if you wanna, Am I.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to have someone wise advising.

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<v Speaker 1>Me some good stuff ahead? Anyway, we'll see you back

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