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<v Speaker 1>It's night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z

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<v Speaker 2>Nicole, you're one of the kindest people I know. Calling

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<v Speaker 2>today's stock market troublesome. I get another T word for it, terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a good weekend, Nicole.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't look at your for one k whatever you do.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Dan Ray, and Nicole is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the nicest people in the world, never mind nicest people

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<v Speaker 2>at WBZ, but she really is. I'm not necessarily nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the talk show host and I'm not bad, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not as nice as Nicole. We're headed for four hours.

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<v Speaker 2>As Nicole said, all the way up until eleven fifty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Dan Ray. As I said, I am

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<v Speaker 2>the host of Nightside, heard every Monday through Friday night

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<v Speaker 2>from eight until midnight. Rob Brooks, the producer of this program,

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<v Speaker 2>is in the control room. I'll set to take your calls,

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<v Speaker 2>but not until nine o'clock. During this hour, we will

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<v Speaker 2>have four guests. We're gonna learn about TikTok, gonna talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all the other stories that are around today,

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<v Speaker 2>including bird flu, something else to worry about, distracted eating,

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<v Speaker 2>and the LA wildfire scams. It's not bad enough to

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<v Speaker 2>have the wildfires, but now I have to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>the scam artists, so we'll deal with it, don't worry.

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<v Speaker 2>First up this hour, I'm delighted to welcome Mark Milton.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an attorney with one of my favorite organizations, the

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<v Speaker 2>Liberty Council, and Mark Miller, welcome to night. Said, how

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<v Speaker 2>are you, sir? You damn the Liberty Foundation, the Pacific

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<v Speaker 2>Liberty Foundation. My mistake. You're going to talk about TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>argued in front of the State Supreme Court today. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't listen to the arguments, but from all that I've heard,

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<v Speaker 2>the justices seemed disinclined to save TikTok, which I'm sure is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a confusing case for many people who do not

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<v Speaker 2>live and die like TikTok. Why did you set it

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<v Speaker 2>up for us? Give us a quick law school brief,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, of the parties and the interest at hand.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I think that's a great way, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to set it up, Dan, you know a law school brief.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a perfect law school hypothetical where you've got

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<v Speaker 4>national security national defense. On one hand. The federal government

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<v Speaker 4>says that China to a company called Byte dance bite.

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<v Speaker 4>The Chinese company that answers to the Chinese government controls

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<v Speaker 4>an American company, TikTok, running this app that are children

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<v Speaker 4>or grand children like to use, and they adjust what

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<v Speaker 4>are you know what Americans are watching and viewing on

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<v Speaker 4>that TikTok app based on their own secret algorithm, and

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<v Speaker 4>they so that's their content. And then separately they're pumping

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<v Speaker 4>in the information that the users have all their data

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<v Speaker 4>back to China. At least they could. China can demand

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<v Speaker 4>that Byte Dance give China government the data that TikTok

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<v Speaker 4>is collecting. And so you've got content mediation, content description

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<v Speaker 4>on the internet on that app that can be adjusted,

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<v Speaker 4>and the government is saying we think that content is

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<v Speaker 4>bad because they can be adjusting. And so you get

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<v Speaker 4>pro Chinese government information on the app as opposed to

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<v Speaker 4>your cat videos. And then separately the data being collected

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<v Speaker 4>from the users. You know, you're a young American and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe that data could be used to blackmail them in

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<v Speaker 4>the future. That's just as capital set. On the other hand,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got free speech and not only did you have

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<v Speaker 4>TikTok there. Arguing to President Trump's former Solicitor General, No Francisco,

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<v Speaker 4>but also another attorneytum Fisher, represent a couple of users saying, we,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, we engage in free speech here. This

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<v Speaker 4>is not a national security risk. Maybe you need to

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<v Speaker 4>tell the users that they might have some sort of

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<v Speaker 4>risk that needs to be disclosures, that China will get

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<v Speaker 4>your information or could get your information, but that it

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<v Speaker 4>is overstepping the First Amendment to shut down the website

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<v Speaker 4>or the app altogether.

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<v Speaker 2>You get an A plus from for briefing here, councilor

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<v Speaker 2>so just in terms of background, Congress in a bipartisan fashion,

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<v Speaker 2>something that really happens bill signed by the President said

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<v Speaker 2>that basically the owners of TikTok have to sell to

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<v Speaker 2>American owners by I guess it's a week from Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteenth, or TikTok will be taken down in the US. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how physically they can take down TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>or block TikTok, but I'm assuming if they say they

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<v Speaker 2>can do it, they can do it. The reports I

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<v Speaker 2>heard today and I didn't listen to the to the arguments,

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<v Speaker 2>were that the majority of the justices seemed very skeptical

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<v Speaker 2>of the First Amendment argument. And seemed somewhat inclined, perhaps

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was a little surprised, Dan, because I that's

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<v Speaker 4>how I interpreted the or argument as well. And I

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<v Speaker 4>say surprised because the lower court had said the lawless

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<v Speaker 4>constitutional that in fact TikTok could be shut down or

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<v Speaker 4>before you know by Dans could be forced to sell it.

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<v Speaker 4>And so if the lower court said that, why would

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<v Speaker 4>the Supreme Court rush the case up? Now you could

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<v Speaker 4>argue they rushed it up because of that January nineteenth deadline,

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<v Speaker 4>but they could have taken action, They could have stayed

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<v Speaker 4>the case. In fact, the dupotent Justice lawyer was parlical.

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<v Speaker 4>I admitted that court could have just stayed the case.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't have to rush for that January nineteenth deadline.

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<v Speaker 4>But they rushed the case up, had briefing over Christmas

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<v Speaker 4>for just a couple of weeks over the holidays. And

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<v Speaker 4>so you sort of usually suggest the Supreme Coourt doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>like the lower court decision because why would it get

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<v Speaker 4>involved if they think the lowered court decision was correct.

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<v Speaker 4>But nevertheless, I was a little surprised because they did

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<v Speaker 4>seem very skeptical. Maybe the best example would be Justice Corsa,

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<v Speaker 4>where he just said, look, you know, you might have

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<v Speaker 4>young Americans using this data, using this app, and now

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<v Speaker 4>their data is being collected future trying it could blackmail

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<v Speaker 4>them if they are leaders in government, maybe they work

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<v Speaker 4>in the FBI or CIA, or they are elected a

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<v Speaker 4>business and you know, you can imagine that that our

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<v Speaker 4>young people would you know, be doing things that they

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't want the world to know twenty thirty years later,

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<v Speaker 4>some things they did as kids, as young adults, And

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<v Speaker 4>so that was Gorsas perspective, and for the most part

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<v Speaker 4>that there's nothing that vilely tree speech to force a

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<v Speaker 4>Chinese company to divest itself of an American company. The

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<v Speaker 4>Chinese company, by dance, has no First Amendment rights. Maybe

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<v Speaker 4>TikTok has some degree of rights, and maybe those users do,

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<v Speaker 4>but do they have a right to demand a particular app.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, Justice Thomas even said, look, if you could

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<v Speaker 4>just say a user can object to a divesting order

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<v Speaker 4>of a big business to a smaller business, then why

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't we have stopped the AT and T breakup. And

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<v Speaker 4>then I know you and I are old enough to

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<v Speaker 4>remember the AT and T breakup, and you know, would

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<v Speaker 4>we have been able to sue and say, well, gee,

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<v Speaker 4>I like to use AT and T as my long

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<v Speaker 4>distance and local phone provider. Of course not that was

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<v Speaker 4>a big deal of the eighties. No one thought that

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<v Speaker 4>was a free speech violation. These people who want to

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<v Speaker 4>use TikTok and certainly make their little TikTok videos, their

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<v Speaker 4>cat videos or whatever they do on other apps besides TikTok.

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<v Speaker 2>How many people in America use TikTok? I have no clue.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously it's got to be millions. I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a tick. I'm on Instagram, I'm on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on Accident, all of that. TikTok's not my thing.

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<v Speaker 2>How many TikTok users are we talking about here? Soon?

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<v Speaker 4>The number the number I heard bandid about at the

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<v Speaker 4>oil argument today, Justice so that my own At one

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<v Speaker 4>point she did half of all Americans. The lawyer pushed

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<v Speaker 4>back on that, but the number was one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>twenty million. The lawyer said, well, just because there's one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and twenty million downloads of the app doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 4>it's one hundred and twenty million different users. It's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of what he said. But bottom line, a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people are using it. And I can tell you as

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<v Speaker 4>a father of four children, three daughters, they all use it.

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<v Speaker 4>All four kids, three girls and one boy. They're on

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<v Speaker 4>that TikTok all the time, just like you might be

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<v Speaker 4>on Twitter. I know I'm a dick the Twitter myself

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<v Speaker 4>or x.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I gotta tell you, I'm really not. I

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<v Speaker 2>I do it only because of my business, which is

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<v Speaker 2>to promote my broadcast. And when I finished my career

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<v Speaker 2>in the in broadcast, I'm getting off everything. I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>tell you. I mean, it's a It destroys your time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think all of us spend much too much

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<v Speaker 2>time looking at these stupid screens. And uh maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they would do young people real quick question the

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<v Speaker 2>the three liberal justices on the Court, Kagan, Sodomara and

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<v Speaker 2>Quintanji Brown Jackson, are they disinclined? Is this decision going

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<v Speaker 2>to essentially be decided by how the six so called conservatives,

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<v Speaker 4>I think you could see a unanimous decision. I think

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<v Speaker 4>all the justices maybe you know, maybe in that Justice

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<v Speaker 4>Corsicch was maybe the most sympathetic to the arguments of.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's asking questions like that and he's the most sympathetic,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're in trouble.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the most liberal, the liberal justice is Justice Kagan

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<v Speaker 4>was very skeptical. She and Thomas Bolt very skeptical of

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<v Speaker 4>the TikTok argument. Justice Jackson was trying to stay to

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<v Speaker 4>the lawyer for TikTok and Old Francisco. She was saying

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<v Speaker 4>to him, I think you're making a long argument, which

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<v Speaker 4>usually isn't a good sign.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not a good not a good time. Heay, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it. I appreciate the analysis really good. I

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<v Speaker 2>wish when I was in law school I had your

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<v Speaker 2>abilities when when Professor Dennis Aronowitz would call on me

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<v Speaker 2>and when you weren't prepared, it'd show you the door.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great law professor, though, Mark, appreciate your time tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll we'll be following this closely. I'm assume we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get an expedited decision here. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be decided on June thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 4>I ume absolutely because of that January nineteenth deadline, they're

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<v Speaker 4>either going to make a quick decision and write a

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<v Speaker 4>longer opinion later, or maybe they will just stay the

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<v Speaker 4>case and we'll get an opinion later. But either way,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll know in the next week or so what they're

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<v Speaker 2>It's great, Mark Miller, have a great weekend. Mark Miller

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<v Speaker 2>from the Pacific Legal Foundation, a great organization, legal organization,

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<v Speaker 2>ladies and gentlemen. They do incredibly good work. Pacific Legal Foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>Check them out. We'll get back on to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>something that is equally problematic, and that is the rise

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<v Speaker 2>of bird flu. We have a doctor, Chief of Division

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<v Speaker 2>of Infectious Diseases at Brigham and Women's Hospital, doctor Daniel Kritzkis.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna join us at on bird flu. Right after

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<v Speaker 2>this break. This is Nightside. My name's Dan Ray. You

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>Well, as if we don't have enough things to worry about,

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<v Speaker 2>now we have something else, bird flu. Doctor Daniel kritzkis

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<v Speaker 2>Women's Hospital. Doctor Kritzkas, thanks so much for joining us

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<v Speaker 2>here on nightside. Bird flu. It sounds horrible. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>around longer than most people realize. What's the deal.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so this is an infection that has come and

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<v Speaker 5>gone over the years. We've had epidemics in the past.

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<v Speaker 5>It's often associated with, you know, large poultry farms, and

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<v Speaker 5>then occasionally spills out into other kinds of animals, as

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<v Speaker 5>recently we've seen in cattle. Fortunately, we've seen a relatively

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<v Speaker 5>small number of cases in people, less than seventy cases

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<v Speaker 5>in humans. But it does have the potential to be severe,

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<v Speaker 5>as we've seen recently from this one death in Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's my first dumb question, and as I say,

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<v Speaker 2>I get paid to ask questions dumb or otherwise? Is

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<v Speaker 2>this the same as avian flu?

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<v Speaker 3>Or?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>And bird flu and avian flu are essentially the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Okay, good enough, So we get that out

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<v Speaker 2>of the way. Okay, So this like another problem that

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<v Speaker 2>we had a few years ago called COVID. Apparently emanates

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<v Speaker 2>the verb is in China twenty or so years ago,

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<v Speaker 5>I believe that's correct. The original outbreak of a v

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<v Speaker 5>and or bird H five and one influenza was picked

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<v Speaker 5>up in the poultry markets in China, as you say,

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<v Speaker 5>about two decades ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sort of a similar pattern.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I do know that we've had one case that ended

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<v Speaker 5>Correct, I thought it was Louisiana, but Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll flip a point on that. When you are right

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<v Speaker 2>on that, I get those Southern states mixed up. So

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<v Speaker 2>he was hanging out with poultry. I guess it was

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<v Speaker 2>some some some sort of a farmer. So do we

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<v Speaker 5>Well, So, I think what it highlights is that this

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<v Speaker 5>is a potential occupational risk when we have large numbers

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever being raised in very close quarters that there's

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<v Speaker 5>the opportunity for viruses to spread among the animals if

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<v Speaker 5>it gets introduced in some way, and then the workers

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<v Speaker 5>who are in contact with those animals are at risk

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<v Speaker 5>of acquiring infection. Fortunately that's uncommon, but it is a

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<v Speaker 2>How long do you think we would we will know

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<v Speaker 2>if this is something that's going to blossom? Is there

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a period of once you have your initial

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<v Speaker 2>outbreaks from an infectious dease disease point of view that

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<v Speaker 2>if it doesn't really bloom within their days or sixty days,

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<v Speaker 2>it's likely to die in the vine? Or what? Are

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<v Speaker 2>we looking at it the short run? Also maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>longer run.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's hard to say, because I think that the

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<v Speaker 5>issue here is not so much the kind of seasonal

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<v Speaker 5>and will peak sometime in January February, and expect the

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<v Speaker 5>cases to tail off into March and April. Here, the

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<v Speaker 5>issue is really going to be what is the activity

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<v Speaker 5>in these large animal farms. We need to be doing

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<v Speaker 5>surveillance among poultry farms and cattle ranches and the like

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<v Speaker 5>to see what's how frequently is this being picked up

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<v Speaker 5>in these animals, because that's what's the potential risk for

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the other question is how does it get spread

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<v Speaker 2>amongst the bird population. I'm assuming that people who have

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<v Speaker 5>Right, That's a great question I would again, I'd have

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<v Speaker 5>to assume that part of the problem is birds fly,

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<v Speaker 5>not chickens, of course, but other birds do. And avian

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<v Speaker 5>influenza is not limited to poultry and other commercial birds,

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<v Speaker 5>but it is found in migrating birds. And so as

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<v Speaker 5>those birds fly, you know, north and south, as they migrate,

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<v Speaker 5>there's the opportunity for them to spread the infection and

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<v Speaker 5>in their i guano, they can spread it potentially to

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<v Speaker 5>and it ultimately gets introduced into those large commercial operations.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there any species that are more susceptible to this

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<v Speaker 2>disease that we should be particularly cautious of?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I do think we have to really worry about

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<v Speaker 5>chickens and ducks and geese because those are the populations

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<v Speaker 5>that we have the largest concentrations of. And there's a

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<v Speaker 5>big distinction. In some bird species, the virus may not

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<v Speaker 5>cause symptomatic infection, so these birds can serve as carriers,

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<v Speaker 5>and in other birds or species, the virus may cause

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<v Speaker 2>Is there any sort of a cyclical aspect to this,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning when at first, every once in a while you

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<v Speaker 2>hear about something that comes around every four or five years,

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<v Speaker 2>or every seven or eight years, there's nothing that's cyclical

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<v Speaker 2>about this. It's just always there, but it pops up

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<v Speaker 2>more often for some reason that obviously it's difficult to trace.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that accurate.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's a great question. We know that when we

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<v Speaker 5>see cyclical things happening in the human population, it's because

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<v Speaker 5>when there's a large outbreak, a lot of people become exposed.

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<v Speaker 5>They then get immune, and then over time the immunity wanes,

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<v Speaker 5>for another cycle. It's not so clear how that's working

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<v Speaker 5>in the animal population. There must be something similar to

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<v Speaker 5>that going on, and a bunch of birds get infected,

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<v Speaker 5>they eventually die off, the infection becomes less prevalent, and

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let me just say this, your great interview. You've

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<v Speaker 2>answered all my questions and none of them, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>are prescripted, because I'm just thinking outside the box, like

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<v Speaker 2>trying what people would And you're a great interview and

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<v Speaker 2>I really thank you for your time tonight, particularly on

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night, and I thank you for what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, infectious diseases traditionally over the centuries have devastated populations,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously COVID was a devastating problem in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just want to say thanks very much for

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<v Speaker 2>what the medicine that you practice, because it's so very critical.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Daniel Coriscus, I really mean that. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you're You're very welcome. I'm much appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we'll talk again, and you're at the great hospital,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the great hospitals in the world. Brigaman Women's right,

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<v Speaker 2>good night, good night. When we get back, going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about something we can control. I'm going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>with Richard Sema neuroscience Semma. He's a neuroscientist and brain

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<v Speaker 2>Matters columnist for the Washington Post. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about distracted eating. All of us know about distracted driving.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're going to learn about distractive eating, which also

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<v Speaker 2>can be harmful. We will explain right after the news

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the hour on Nightside on our

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<v Speaker 2>Friday night. As we head into the weekend, maybe a weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>it'll be nicer than we perhaps could have anticipated a

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<v Speaker 2>few days go.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Next up, we're going to talk about distracted eating with

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<v Speaker 2>Washington Post columnists. He is the neural scientists and brain

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<v Speaker 2>Matters columnists for The warp Hole. Richard, is it Sima

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<v Speaker 2>or Sema?

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<v Speaker 6>It's Sema? And how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great. I'm doing great. So distracted eating, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I think most of us can identify with that. Why

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<v Speaker 2>Why are people, I guess all of us eating in

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<v Speaker 2>a distracted fashion?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So, distracted eating, as it sounds like, is whenever you're

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<v Speaker 6>eating and doing anything else, You're maybe on your smartphone,

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<v Speaker 6>you're watching TV or even socializing and or at work,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think part of the reason that researchers think

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<v Speaker 6>this is on the rise as well. Food is more accessible,

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of processed foods. It's take on the go,

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<v Speaker 6>you can have a you know, at your dusk. But

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<v Speaker 6>at the same time, we also have more distractions and

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<v Speaker 6>more ways of doing work or other things than the goes,

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<v Speaker 6>such as the smartphone. But unfortunately, the research shows that

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<v Speaker 6>when we are distracted, we not only eat more food

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<v Speaker 6>and it's associated with more weight gain, but we also

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<v Speaker 6>don't taste the food as much either. Yeah, yeah, now

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<v Speaker 6>I hear you.

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<v Speaker 2>So is this a phenomenon of the twenty first century

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<v Speaker 2>and we've all learned how to multitask. You're talking on

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<v Speaker 2>in your mouth with stuff that probably isn't good. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that just that we're all trying to do more things

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<v Speaker 2>within the same limited period of time. I assume that

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, I think like certain things have become easier, right,

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<v Speaker 6>Like we have screens, we have TV, we have smartphones.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, like back in the past we also

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<v Speaker 6>did eat with other people, which technically is a distraction too.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you're talking you're like, you're trying to listen

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<v Speaker 6>to conversation, you're abe ata party. But the interesting thing

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<v Speaker 6>about that is socializing as a distraction doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 6>be associated with like, you know, this increased in increase

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<v Speaker 6>in BMI or increase in eating. And a researcher I

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<v Speaker 6>talked to about this was, you know, who did this

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<v Speaker 6>kind of study. So that might be because you know,

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<v Speaker 6>when we're talking, we're usually not eating at least polite

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<v Speaker 6>to do so, and you know, it means we're probably

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<v Speaker 6>slowing down. And I think that's the through line of

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<v Speaker 3>That you know, we know that.

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<v Speaker 6>If we eat faster, we chew less, we tend to

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<v Speaker 6>produce these signals, these hormones that tell us we're getting full,

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<v Speaker 6>and if we're doing something else, we are less likely

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<v Speaker 6>to build to like really listen to those signals. And similarly, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>On, how long has this stuff been studied? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in a time when families actually had dinners,

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<v Speaker 6>Think it's become more you know, there's a lot more

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<v Speaker 6>getting distracted. And the research like that suggests is like yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>like you know, sitting down to eat with others as

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<v Speaker 6>a family, that seems to be healthier. But if you're

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<v Speaker 6>watching TV while doing it, it does also plan too

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<v Speaker 6>this oh we're eating more because like we're doing other

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<v Speaker 6>still a you know, growing field, but it seems really

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<v Speaker 6>you know, like paying attention to your food. You're not

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<v Speaker 6>enjoying it as much, and as a result, you're eating more,

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<v Speaker 6>probably more than you wanted to if you were not

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<v Speaker 6>as distracted.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm probably a good person to be studied,

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<v Speaker 2>because when I get up in the morning, my wife

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<v Speaker 2>has gone to work, the kids are they've grown up,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm My best meal of the day is breakfast.

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<v Speaker 2>I make myself breakfast. I focus on what I'm doing,

427
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<v Speaker 2>I enjoy it, got the coffee going, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>a real newspaper, a print version of a newspaper at

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<v Speaker 2>the dinner at the breakfast table, and I sit there

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<v Speaker 2>and I eat cereal with fruit and orange juice and

431
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<v Speaker 2>vitamins and coffee, and I read the morning newspaper. No

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<v Speaker 2>one bothers me. No one bothers me. I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>put the phone away, and then when I finish, I

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<v Speaker 2>get ready for the day, which is involved prepping for

435
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<v Speaker 2>the show. I do four hours a night, to be

436
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<v Speaker 2>honest with you, which is five nights a week. And

437
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<v Speaker 2>at six o'clock at night, I got a sandwich and

438
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<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of listening to the nightly news because God

439
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<v Speaker 2>forbid that I would miss a story. I mean a

440
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<v Speaker 2>big story that I got on and missed it. And

441
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<v Speaker 2>I'm also trying to do the crossword puzzle and a

442
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<v Speaker 2>couple of other things just that, and it's like it's

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<v Speaker 2>a different world from eight nine o'clock in the morning

444
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<v Speaker 2>until six o'clock at night, and I hadn't really thought

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<v Speaker 2>about it until I spoke with you Richard. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going want to I'm going to try to change. I'm

447
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<v Speaker 2>going to try to make night more. My wife still

448
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<v Speaker 2>isn't home for dinner, so five nights a week I

449
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<v Speaker 2>eat breakfast and dinner alone. Okay, And obviously I'm really

450
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<v Speaker 2>distracted because I'm thinking about the show at six o'clock

451
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<v Speaker 2>in the morning. You know, it's I know, I'm going

452
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<v Speaker 2>to be on the air eleven hours, but it's way

453
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<v Speaker 2>off in the disner. Do you can you identify with

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<v Speaker 2>that as as a as a journalistic You must have

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<v Speaker 2>define right.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, definitely. I am definitely guilty of like eating out

457
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<v Speaker 6>my dust, you know, like you know, I have coffee

458
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<v Speaker 6>for like just getting awake instead of actually enjoying how

459
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<v Speaker 6>it tastes or the food. Right, Like, you know, there

460
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<v Speaker 6>is a sense that, yeah, we feel like we should

461
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<v Speaker 6>be always doing something else and that maybe our relationship

462
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<v Speaker 6>with food is that it just gives us fuel versus like, yeah,

463
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<v Speaker 6>some of these meals like deserve to be savored, you know,

464
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<v Speaker 6>like these your breakfast you probably like maybe like notice

465
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<v Speaker 6>it more and it's a joy right to start the

466
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<v Speaker 6>day that way, whereas your dinner is more like, oh, yeah,

467
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<v Speaker 6>you have to get this done. I don't want to

468
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<v Speaker 6>be hungry later. But you know, like we could take

469
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<v Speaker 6>a few minutes or at least like having time to

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<v Speaker 6>be more mindful and you know, try what researchers are

471
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<v Speaker 6>called mindful eating, which is different practices of drawing your

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<v Speaker 6>attention back to the food, back to the senses, back

473
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<v Speaker 6>to how you're feeling about it, and not only you know,

474
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<v Speaker 6>like it's like a sort of like you get two

475
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<v Speaker 6>bus pluses at least, right, you're not only eating more mindfully,

476
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<v Speaker 6>like probably less than what like you would overeating when

477
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<v Speaker 6>you're distracted, but you're also like, you know, actually taking

478
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<v Speaker 6>the time to enjoy you know, what someone created for

479
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<v Speaker 6>you and what like I don't know, like one of

480
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<v Speaker 6>the best parts of being human, I think is even

481
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<v Speaker 6>something nice and actually being there for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Two other things like this morning, I took my time

483
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<v Speaker 2>and I made myself blueberry pancakes, and I love real cakes,

484
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<v Speaker 2>but it was just it was a great breakfast meal.

485
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<v Speaker 2>The other thing, and I don't want to get religious

486
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<v Speaker 2>on you here. But here's a thought. And I'm you know,

487
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<v Speaker 2>a little religious, you might be a little maybe not,

488
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<v Speaker 2>you know, very really do people pause before they eat

489
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<v Speaker 2>and just say a proved things. But we used to

490
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<v Speaker 2>do that as families, and that made you focus on

491
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<v Speaker 2>the food a little bit too.

492
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think maybe this goes this is something broader.

494
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<v Speaker 6>Like what you're sort of alluding to is like, you know,

495
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<v Speaker 6>our attention is so scattered, there's so many things competing

496
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<v Speaker 6>for it. But it's also like are you really there

497
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<v Speaker 6>if you're not you know, actually trying to like, you know,

498
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<v Speaker 6>take that moment to acknowledge yeah, like this is great

499
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<v Speaker 6>food like something like that, but also you know, actually

500
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<v Speaker 6>find finding that attention to experience it fully. Yeah, it's

501
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<v Speaker 6>it's it's difficult, but I think this type of research

502
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<v Speaker 6>shows that, like, yeah, there's benefits not only to our

503
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<v Speaker 6>health but also like our ability to enjoy life.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, no, I know, And I'm now going to

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<v Speaker 2>say I'm going to take a couple more minutes in

506
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<v Speaker 2>the morning and enjoy my breakfast even more, even if

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<v Speaker 2>I simply say good food, good meat, good God, Lit's

508
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<v Speaker 2>eat Okay.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, And I think, yeah, I think that's a

510
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<v Speaker 6>good practice, especially if you like I think one thing

511
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<v Speaker 6>I've noticed is like people do have these rituals, but sometimes,

512
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<v Speaker 6>like you, it becomes routine again, right, you just say it,

513
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<v Speaker 6>but you don't really and you know, that's that's the

514
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<v Speaker 6>paradox is being human.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like you, once you've got a routine, you sort

517
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<v Speaker 6>of wanted to, you know, be as efficient as possible,

518
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<v Speaker 6>versus maybe part of the point is taking the time.

519
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<v Speaker 6>And that's that's the that's.

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<v Speaker 2>The one of being human real, Richard. Time is the

521
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<v Speaker 2>most valuable thing we have when you really talk about it,

522
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<v Speaker 2>because no matter how much money you have or whatever,

523
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<v Speaker 2>you can't extend the time too much. Richard, I enjoyed

524
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<v Speaker 2>any mean to get philosophical with you here, but your

525
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<v Speaker 2>article and your comments really caused me to think, and

526
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<v Speaker 2>I hope it caused some them the listeners to think

527
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<v Speaker 2>as well. I really enjoyed it. You've been a guest before.

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<v Speaker 2>Love to have you back again. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great weekend.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah you too, This is lovely, Thank you, thank.

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<v Speaker 2>You, Richard. Talk So when we get back, we're going

532
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<v Speaker 2>to talk about scams where people are trying to take

533
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<v Speaker 2>advantage of the Los Angeles fire victims throw them in

534
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<v Speaker 2>jail for fifty years. As far as I'm concerned, We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back on Nightside with Lieutenant Formal Lieutenant Randy Sutton,

536
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<v Speaker 2>and he's going to talk about the scams that are

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<v Speaker 2>in play tonight even as we speak. As we as

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<v Speaker 2>we speak, will be back on.

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side now, back to Dan Ray live from the

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<v Speaker 1>Window World lat Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Brandy Sutton has a retired police lieutenant, founder of the

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<v Speaker 2>Wounded Blue. Randy, you may not remember me, but you've

543
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<v Speaker 2>been on the show a couple of times. Welcome back

544
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<v Speaker 2>to NIGHTSID.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you, sir, fantastic man, Thanks for having me.

546
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<v Speaker 2>You're very welcome you night You're here too. You're here

547
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<v Speaker 2>to warn people about a lot of scams that are

548
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<v Speaker 2>now circulating because a lot of us here in the

549
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<v Speaker 2>New England area are looking to try to help out

550
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<v Speaker 2>people in Los Angeles. The devastation of this, this this

551
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<v Speaker 2>this fire, this inferno that has eaten up neighborhoods is

552
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<v Speaker 2>just unimaginable. So how do we avoid scams and yet

553
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<v Speaker 2>maybe do something to help these poor these poor souls.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is a great question with with this incredible devastation.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm you know, I'm in Las Vegas, so I'm

556
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<v Speaker 3>very close to uh to this situation. Especially in my

557
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<v Speaker 3>capacity as the founder of the Wound the Blue. I've

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<v Speaker 3>been literally in conversations with police officers who have been

559
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<v Speaker 3>involved in this. In this this horrendous situation, many officers

560
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:17.640
<v Speaker 3>are losing their homes as well while they're out serving

561
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:22.480
<v Speaker 3>the community. So this is this is unprecedented in our history,

562
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<v Speaker 3>the scope of this tragedy. And and Americans are very

563
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<v Speaker 3>very you know, compassionate people. They want to help when

564
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<v Speaker 3>when there's a situation like this, they want to get involved.

565
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<v Speaker 3>And and of course the easiest way to get involved

566
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<v Speaker 3>is to make donations to help to help the people

567
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<v Speaker 3>who have been affected by tragedy. The problem is, how

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<v Speaker 3>do you know who to trust. I give you an example.

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<v Speaker 3>I I was reaching out to various police agencies in

570
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<v Speaker 3>the air to determine who what charities are actually going

571
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<v Speaker 3>to be functioning in this in this regard, and I've

572
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<v Speaker 3>had some difficult times locating the proper charities to utilize.

573
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<v Speaker 3>But what will happen is the scammers will be out

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<v Speaker 3>and about they will be doing social media posts. They

575
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<v Speaker 3>will be setting up fake websites. And the problem is

576
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<v Speaker 3>if you if you want to give, you have to

577
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<v Speaker 3>be your background. You have to do your own work

578
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:36.519
<v Speaker 3>to make sure that these are legitimate antithies because they

579
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<v Speaker 3>will pop up you. You will be getting texts that

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<v Speaker 3>that say that you know they represent an organization. Don't

581
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:50.039
<v Speaker 3>ever answer a text because there are so many scams

582
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:53.720
<v Speaker 3>involved with just opening the text message, which leaves you

583
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<v Speaker 3>open and susceptible to h to malware to get your

584
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<v Speaker 3>personal information. Big So you've got to be very very

585
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:08.279
<v Speaker 3>careful and you have to be your homework. If you

586
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<v Speaker 3>if you see you get solicited, the chances of you

587
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<v Speaker 3>being solicited by a legitimate charity or minimal, so unless

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<v Speaker 3>you know who they are. For instance, American Red Cross

589
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<v Speaker 3>Disaster Relief. The charities that have been around for a

590
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<v Speaker 3>long time, they do great work. You've got to do

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<v Speaker 3>your homework.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know one of the things that I do,

593
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<v Speaker 2>and I have family members who are police officers or

594
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<v Speaker 2>former retired police officers, I should say, and I get

595
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<v Speaker 2>really angry because you get the telephone calls and from

596
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.200
<v Speaker 2>you can tell it's a boiler room because you can

597
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<v Speaker 2>hear voices in the background. Yeah, these guys, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's Bob. You know, Bob Jones. I'm with

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<v Speaker 2>the United Federation of the Police Association of American and

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<v Speaker 2>we're hoping you might be able to make one hundred

601
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<v Speaker 2>dollars contribution to help us out. And I'm the ideal

602
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<v Speaker 2>with one question. I say, oh, I'm looking forward to

603
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<v Speaker 2>making this donation. Bob, can you tell me what are

604
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<v Speaker 2>the administrative costs of your charity? Because they have they

605
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<v Speaker 2>will all these these these these groups give five cents

606
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<v Speaker 2>out of every dollar raised to some police actual police agency.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean if that by giving five cents, they keep

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<v Speaker 2>out of jail. Okay, because there's no regulation that says

609
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<v Speaker 2>the administrative cost you know, have to be no more

610
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<v Speaker 2>than ten percent or no more than twelve percent. So

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<v Speaker 2>you literally you'll give you you'll donate one hundred dollars.

612
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<v Speaker 2>Five dollars will go to some uh, you know, some

613
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<v Speaker 2>legitimate police charity. Uh. And so that's that's the first

614
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<v Speaker 2>thing that I do. And invariably they'll say, well, we

615
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<v Speaker 2>don't really keep our track of that record, And I say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why should that one hundred dollars, Why shouldn't I take

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<v Speaker 2>my one hundred dollars and walk down to my local

618
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<v Speaker 2>police station and write the check and give it to

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<v Speaker 2>the to the sergeant on the front desk. And at

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<v Speaker 2>that point they hang up on you. So yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think what has happened is that they they assumed

622
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<v Speaker 2>that most people want to support police. Uh And that's

623
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<v Speaker 2>and of course great charities that this is a perfect

624
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<v Speaker 2>example that you're talking about now, whose heart doesn't go

625
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<v Speaker 2>out to what we see on television these I've never

626
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<v Speaker 2>seen scenes like this in my life. I know that

627
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<v Speaker 2>you had that fire in Hawaii about a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, which was devastating as well, but that was

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<v Speaker 2>in a much smaller area. Uh And and did put

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<v Speaker 2>fewer people. This is unbelievable. I assume Randy, that you're

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<v Speaker 2>I've been to LA, but I'm not nearly as familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with that as I am with East Coast cities. But

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<v Speaker 2>does La ever recover from this?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I mean, no one. It will never

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<v Speaker 3>be the same. You know, there are historic structures, hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>of them, homes that you can never recreate. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>history has been lost here. Not to mention the lots

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<v Speaker 3>of animals. It's it's it's it's like an apocalypse. And

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<v Speaker 3>I literally not not an allogous spoke to California Higerate

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<v Speaker 3>Patrol officer who we have helped in the past, and

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<v Speaker 3>his home is in jeopardy, and he was telling me

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<v Speaker 3>that they uh that they caught a guy pouring gas

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<v Speaker 3>lean onto the fire just hours ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they made this arrest of this one guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now my question is, could have he been someone who

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<v Speaker 2>started the fires or was he just you know, pyromaniac

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<v Speaker 2>who got excited, saw some flames and decide he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to add his ad to it. But wouldn't it

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<v Speaker 2>be interesting if we find out that these fires were

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<v Speaker 2>started by humans?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think we are. We are definitely going to

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<v Speaker 3>find that several of the fires have been started by humans,

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<v Speaker 3>Several people have been taking into custody, and then then

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<v Speaker 3>you have the leaders besides yeah, I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 3>where you see the best of humanity and the worst

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<v Speaker 3>of humanity. And one of the things that we're doing

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<v Speaker 3>with the Wounded Blue is we are going to put

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<v Speaker 3>a fund together to help officers who have been displaced

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<v Speaker 3>by the fire. So we're actually and and we are

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<v Speaker 3>a real legitimate charity. And by the way, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the things that your listeners, if they are confronted or

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<v Speaker 3>were exposed to a pitch by a supposed charity, ask

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<v Speaker 3>for their nine nineties. This is something that very few

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<v Speaker 3>people know about. Nine nineties are the tax forms that

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<v Speaker 3>every charity is required to show the public. And then

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<v Speaker 3>and if you ask for their nine nineties, they have

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<v Speaker 3>to show it to you. If they won't, they're not

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<v Speaker 3>real ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me real quickly. We got about thirty seconds left.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure some of my listeners would love to make

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<v Speaker 2>a contribution through the Wounded Blue Give us your website.

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<v Speaker 2>How can people get in touch with the Wounded Blue

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<v Speaker 2>to make a contribution?

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<v Speaker 3>No Wounded Blue dot org. That's no Wounded Blue dot org.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you want to contact me personally, I'm Randy

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<v Speaker 3>at the Wounded Blue dot Org. I'll to handle any

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<v Speaker 3>conversations and I'll give you as much information as I can.

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<v Speaker 2>That is great, Randy Sutton is always thanks very much. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>as they say, we love having you on. And I

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<v Speaker 2>know you do a lot of these around the country,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can't remember every station you're on, but I've

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<v Speaker 2>remembered you every time because as I say, I have

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<v Speaker 2>police in my family right.

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate it. Anytime you need me, you just call me.

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<v Speaker 2>You bet you're Randy at the Wounded Blue dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you can just google the Wounded Blue dot org

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<v Speaker 2>and make a contribution that will get to where you

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<v Speaker 2>want it to get to. Randy Sutton, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a great weekend. I know it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>busy for you, but you're doing God's work. Thanks, Randy,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>My pleasure. Thank you so much. You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, we get back right after the nine o'clock news.

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<v Speaker 2>We are going to talk about this devastation in Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles and uh there there have been some arrests, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna I want your reaction to this. This is

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<v Speaker 2>unimaginable what I have seen, and I'm sure what you

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<v Speaker 2>have seen. Uh, let's let's talk about it on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of the nine