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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app with all the coverage of this

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<v Speaker 1>fire that has exploded this morning in the Pacific Palisades,

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<v Speaker 1>quickly taking off down the hills there as it makes

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<v Speaker 1>its way, particularly on the west side of Timescal Canyon there,

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<v Speaker 1>into the neighborhoods we mentioned most recently. Because the winds

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<v Speaker 1>are coming down the mountain from the north and from

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<v Speaker 1>over the east, it pushed this thing to the west

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<v Speaker 1>into the borderline of the Summit area, which backs up

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<v Speaker 1>right there to Palisades Drive, which has said to be

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<v Speaker 1>overrun all four lanes with cars trying to get down

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<v Speaker 1>as fire crews try to get up.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting word that some people are starting to walk out

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<v Speaker 2>because of the evacuation problems that they're having with people

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<v Speaker 2>cars that are jamming the roads getting out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple people that we have heard from have said

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<v Speaker 2>as much, and we're hearing radio traffic as well that

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<v Speaker 2>even dispatchers realize that there are problems getting people out

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<v Speaker 2>of the areas that need to be gotten out of.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what you do at that point.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, this is some more bad news for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Reports now that the fire has spotted across Palisades Drive

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<v Speaker 1>and is on both sides of the road, which puts

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<v Speaker 1>it if you're looking at a map here on.

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<v Speaker 4>The Getty Villa side right of Palisades Drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that is this in terms of the sheer number

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<v Speaker 2>of homes. That's probably the smaller pocket right right there

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<v Speaker 2>before it goes before you hit Topanga and then it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of gets wild landy before you make.

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<v Speaker 3>Your way over towards Big Rock and in the Malibu area.

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<v Speaker 2>But this does not mean that it's less dangerous, because

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<v Speaker 2>that just means it's spreading as it reaches out into

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<v Speaker 2>the into the flatlands there. We have been following all

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<v Speaker 2>of the coverage of it as well, and I mean

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<v Speaker 2>you could see there's there's a picture right there from

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<v Speaker 2>Channel five of the traffic as it exists there people

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<v Speaker 2>getting out of pch and then fire trucks that are

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<v Speaker 2>stuck in that same traffic, and of course that dark

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<v Speaker 2>cloud of smoke that comes over them brings with it

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<v Speaker 2>sort of that I'm sure probably fear inducing panic.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's where we're at.

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<v Speaker 1>It quickly went from ten acres and just balloon to

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred like that. They knew it would because of

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty to six excuse me, forty to sixty mile

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<v Speaker 1>per hour winds gus even more as we can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>and predict with fires like this wind driven down the

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<v Speaker 1>mountains with those mountain wave winds behind it, Several spot

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<v Speaker 1>fires have erupted in multiple neighborhoods. This was an area

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<v Speaker 1>where strike crews were deployed. This was considered to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the high intensity when it came to high

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<v Speaker 1>fire risk areas that they knew that anything that exploded

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<v Speaker 1>in this area would take off. Unfortunately, they just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know when. And the speed of this thing means that

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<v Speaker 1>people didn't have time to preemptively leave if they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to anyway, which is why you're seeing the gridlock

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere there.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, they have.

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<v Speaker 1>Got at least four or had had four firefighting aircraft

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<v Speaker 1>in the sky, including those two Super Scoopers. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Scoopers are unique and that they can fly in

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<v Speaker 1>winds of forty five miles per hour per hour. They

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<v Speaker 1>can scoop up water in headwinds of forty five miles

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<v Speaker 1>per hour, which is one of the reasons why they

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<v Speaker 1>are so key. The pilots which are also on loan,

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<v Speaker 1>the equipment crews who know how to take care of

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<v Speaker 1>these babies, they can approach. They can approach their approach,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, based on different wind speeds. They have

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<v Speaker 1>different protocols for different wind speeds on how to approach

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<v Speaker 1>the water pickups as well as the water drops. They

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<v Speaker 1>are very skilled at that when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 1>technicality of that kind of maneuver. So they are able

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<v Speaker 1>to reach these fire locations quickly, repeatedly drop water on

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<v Speaker 1>flames in wind. So lucky that we have those. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't believe they were still on lease in January. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>fire season is over. They say it's year round, but

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<v Speaker 1>rarely do we have these things explode in January.

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<v Speaker 2>We are watching, like you said, a handful of air traffic,

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of different spotter planes that have now come

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<v Speaker 2>in and are circling around this thing. The last number

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<v Speaker 2>that we had was two hundred plus acres. It is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be whatever the number is next is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be much much larger than that, based on the

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<v Speaker 2>speed with which this thing has been able to expand

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<v Speaker 2>there has been video that we've.

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<v Speaker 3>Also seen of homes that are on fire. So this is.

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<v Speaker 2>A situation now that is getting I mean exponentially more dangerous,

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<v Speaker 2>not just for the people who are trying to get out,

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<v Speaker 2>but for the fire crews. A couple of different TV

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<v Speaker 2>stations have reporters up in those neighborhoods and they are

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<v Speaker 2>watching law enforcement and firefighters going into homes, ushering people

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<v Speaker 2>out door to door, literally yelling for people to get

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<v Speaker 2>out of the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 1>LA Fire Department, LA County Fire Department, the finest departments

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<v Speaker 1>you will find when it comes to firefighting in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly the world. They are very good at this, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're describing this situation as dire. They're saying that this

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<v Speaker 1>is the ferocity of a blowtorch. Again, a dire situation.

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<v Speaker 1>They said this morning it was going to be life threatening.

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<v Speaker 1>They said it was going to be destructive when it

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<v Speaker 1>came to this wind event, and they were not kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>There are homes that are on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>The entire Pacific Palisades area has been ordered evacuated, and

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<v Speaker 2>that means that everybody is trying to get out of

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<v Speaker 2>there at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Palisades Drive is gridlocked. They're using all four lanes

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<v Speaker 1>told to are not told to to get the hell

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<v Speaker 1>down while fire crews are trying to use that only

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<v Speaker 1>and only.

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<v Speaker 4>Major artery to get up.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, radio traffic indicates that the traffic there on

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<v Speaker 1>Palisades Drive is gridlocked. Cars are being abandoned by people,

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<v Speaker 1>which is making things harder for fire engines as you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine, to get up that road. So firefighters right

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<v Speaker 1>now are requesting that people at the top of Palisades

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<v Speaker 1>Drive shelter in place at this time, don't try to

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<v Speaker 1>come down.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, the one thing they would have is

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<v Speaker 2>that the fire doesn't appear to be moving that direction.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it has jumped over as you get farther south,

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<v Speaker 2>farther closer to the water, I should say, and it

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<v Speaker 2>is on the side of Palisades Drive that would be

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<v Speaker 2>the Getty Villa area, and as you make your way

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<v Speaker 2>over towards Topega Canyon Boulevard or Topenga Canyon Highway twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven there. But that's not a that doesn't make anybody

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<v Speaker 2>feel calm. I wouldn't expect two hundred plus acres was

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<v Speaker 2>the last time we saw a number associated with this,

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<v Speaker 2>But we know it's going to be bigger than that

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<v Speaker 2>once they get in more information. There's a couple pictures

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<v Speaker 2>of all of the different agencies that have reacted to this.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen LA County and LA City firefighting aircraft that

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<v Speaker 2>are in the air. They've got a couple of different

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<v Speaker 2>tankers with their lead spotter planes that are coming through,

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<v Speaker 2>just doing their circles all around. So you could imagine

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<v Speaker 2>it is a very busy time in those skies above

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<v Speaker 2>this fire trying to do what they can. That's at

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<v Speaker 2>least four helicopters that I see now, and then a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of other tankers that continued to circle through.

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<v Speaker 1>Again. The winds are volatile, so there are a number

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<v Speaker 1>of aircraft that will not fare well in situations like this.

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<v Speaker 4>At this point, there is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>A lull, we're told by meteorologists in the afternoon, at

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<v Speaker 1>some point where maybe you can get on top of

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<v Speaker 1>this thing from the sky a little bit more. Take

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of that break, because the strong winds and the

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<v Speaker 1>strong wind gusts will make a return this evening. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're on PCH hoping to get by this thing

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<v Speaker 1>before it hits PCH, you're so well traffic on PCH

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<v Speaker 1>toward the Palisades is a mess. You're not going anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>so your plans need to be aborted.

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<v Speaker 4>At this point. I'm looking at live pictures and there's

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<v Speaker 4>just no.

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<v Speaker 1>Way that you're going to get in that direction. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if these are people trying to get to

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<v Speaker 1>their homes to get things out, or people trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get through this area on pch because it is shut

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<v Speaker 1>down as well.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a Pega Canyon southbound.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah to Panga A. Mulholland is where pH is close.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked with Quentin Fleming from the Pacific Palisades Community

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<v Speaker 2>Council a little bit earlier and we discussed that one

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<v Speaker 2>way in, one way out, especially if you're up at

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the hill there in the Palisades, that

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<v Speaker 2>that Palisades Drive was really the only access to get

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<v Speaker 2>in and out of that place. Like you said, that's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the reasons they have suggested it if you

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<v Speaker 2>are up at the top of that hill, that you

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<v Speaker 2>shelter in place, because they need to get the fire

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<v Speaker 2>equipment in there to help fight that fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Much farther, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Shouldn't say much, but a couple of miles to the

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<v Speaker 2>west of that is where we saw that fire last

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<v Speaker 2>month that burned up towards Malibu, down towards Malibu, I

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<v Speaker 2>should say, and it is echoing a lot of what

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<v Speaker 2>we saw then today, but today's exploded in size. We

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<v Speaker 2>were on edge in that Malibu fire. We were waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for it to grow and grow exponentially, but it did not.

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<v Speaker 3>This one is.

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<v Speaker 2>This one is taking advantage of the incredible wind speeds

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<v Speaker 2>that we saw, like you said, up to sixty mile

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<v Speaker 2>an hour gusts, if not more than that, specifically in

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<v Speaker 2>this area and again the entire area of Pacific Palisades.

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<v Speaker 2>They want you out of there so that they can

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<v Speaker 2>go in and fight this fire and try to protect

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<v Speaker 2>your homes.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, pictures of homes on fire. As you mentioned, We

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<v Speaker 1>also talked about how the President's trip to the Inland

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<v Speaker 1>Empire to declare some national monuments has been canceled. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons is that it would have created problems

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<v Speaker 1>in airspace. Him coming on Air Force one to the

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<v Speaker 1>Inland Empire would definitely shut down and some airspace over

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<v Speaker 1>much needed airspace, as you can imagine around southern California

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<v Speaker 1>with this beast that is just eating up the Palisades.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, one of the things that we mentioned this morning

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<v Speaker 2>when we were talking about what was going to happen

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<v Speaker 2>for the rest of the day and for the next

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days. As a matter of fact, because of

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<v Speaker 2>the red flag fire danger, CalFire did deploy a few

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<v Speaker 2>dozen fire engines and six hand crews from northern California

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<v Speaker 2>to come down here to Southern California, La Orange, Riverside,

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<v Speaker 2>San Bernardino, San Diego, Samuis Obispo, and Ventura County. So

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<v Speaker 2>the local units were going to be We're staffing extra engines,

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<v Speaker 2>extra hand crews, bulldozers, water tenders were all ready at

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<v Speaker 2>the ready. But this is not This is beyond what

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<v Speaker 2>we have seen in terms of fire behavior in many

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<v Speaker 2>instances before. So that's one of the reasons why we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen such an incredible response. And then there's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the images that we see so many times in southern

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<v Speaker 2>California where the palm tree is catching on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>And those palm trees, once they get to the fronds,

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<v Speaker 1>those things take off and they travel. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't need that palm tree to spread this thing in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of spotfires because of the wind, it'll carry those

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<v Speaker 1>those flames alone. But it doesn't make matters any better.

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<v Speaker 1>And look at that. Look at that live area of

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<v Speaker 1>You're not moving because there are just so many people

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<v Speaker 1>the traffic lights configured correctly, you know, or people are

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<v Speaker 1>people just to well just be kind of one another.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got civilians out there directing traffic at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like that guy's car is stalled, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably what's causing the problem right now.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean that's moving.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, these are people that have gotten out of

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<v Speaker 1>try and get these cars through. Oh, that guy's car

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<v Speaker 1>is stalled. Yeah wow, look at that. Look at this,

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's car is stalled. What of time to have

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Four people get out of their cars to push them down.

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<v Speaker 1>That's nice to see, yeah, and hopefully free up at

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<v Speaker 1>least some of the problems.

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<v Speaker 2>So again it looks like traffic is gridlocked in different

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<v Speaker 2>areas trying to get out of Pacific Palisades.

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<v Speaker 1>And it looks like just like every other fire where

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<v Speaker 1>there's no visibility, it's just all gray, just like it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like.

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<v Speaker 4>A war zone. It is like a bunch of bombs

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<v Speaker 4>have dropped.

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<v Speaker 2>And again there are homes that have burned. We haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen what sort of plans LA City Fire or County Fire,

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<v Speaker 2>whoever's going to take the charge of the lead on

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<v Speaker 2>this would be giving updates on any of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll keep an eye on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that just goes to show you how feverish this is,

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<v Speaker 1>how hot it got, how quickly, how wide spread it is.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just no time to give an update. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want them to waste time giving us an update, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I mean that that along with the lack

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<v Speaker 2>of specific evacuation orders early on everybody and now it's

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<v Speaker 2>just everybody in the Palisades leave.

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<v Speaker 4>Every one in the Palisades area.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave is the evacuation order they're not just getting they're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting granular about which neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no time to get granular.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just miles of smoke that have now been

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<v Speaker 2>blown out across the ocean and everywhere along the west side.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see images of this fire. You can see

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<v Speaker 2>it from the valley over the hills.

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<v Speaker 3>There is just it is. It is big again.

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<v Speaker 1>There is supposed to be a lull in the winds

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<v Speaker 1>coming up this afternoon before they pick up again tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>But the red flag warning is in effect for this

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<v Speaker 1>area until Thursday at six pm. Still got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we'll continue to keep an eye on this again.

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<v Speaker 2>Two hundred plus acre fire in a Pacific Palace Sades,

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<v Speaker 2>very dangerous situation.

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<v Speaker 1>All of the Palisades has been evacuated. We are seeing

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<v Speaker 1>some they're trying to now they're trying to at excellent point.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got eyes on Palisades Drive. All four lanes, two in,

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<v Speaker 1>two out, all four now have been devoted to outs

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<v Speaker 1>as according to the people who are trying to get out. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>there are fire engines trying to get in, making matters

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<v Speaker 1>much worse. You pointed out a palm tree that was

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<v Speaker 1>on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right in the median there. It's too like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>two lanes up and two lanes down. On Palisades Drive

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<v Speaker 2>and in the media and through much of it there

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<v Speaker 2>are palm trees. It's California, and some of the palm

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<v Speaker 2>trees have started to catch fire from the earlier spot

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<v Speaker 2>fires that we saw the embers that were blowing in.

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<v Speaker 3>There was also a car that it was actually.

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<v Speaker 2>A van, headed down Palisades Drive away from the fire

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<v Speaker 2>on the wrong side of the road that had caught fire.

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<v Speaker 2>But that thing burned for a good ten or fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>minutes before a fire truck came and they were able

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<v Speaker 2>to put it out just a couple of minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is it's a situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody, well clearly nobody expected like this,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with people trying to get out of that hillcrest

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<v Speaker 2>area the top of the Palisades area, the summit, because

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<v Speaker 2>the only way to get out of there is through

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<v Speaker 2>Palisades Drive.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't go back the other way. You can't go

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<v Speaker 3>back up over the hill.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to come down Palisades Drive. And even with

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<v Speaker 2>two lanes up two lanes down, pretty sizable, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>access lanes on the side of that, it's just a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can see cars that are just abandoned on

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<v Speaker 1>Palisades Drive. Cars that were driving down the wrong side

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<v Speaker 1>of the road to get out, desperate to get out.

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<v Speaker 1>People have just been taking off running. Now mentioned that

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<v Speaker 1>the fire did jump Pacific Palisades Drive, so it's on

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<v Speaker 1>both sides, on the Temescul side and it's on the

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Now listening to radio traffic that indicates the fire is

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<v Speaker 1>currently impacting the Getty Villa area, will be impacting Coastline

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<v Speaker 1>Drive area shortly, which is as you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>know the area right in.

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<v Speaker 4>The thick of residential communities.

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<v Speaker 2>As well, a couple of notes to pass on the

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<v Speaker 2>command center that you're going to see a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>don't go there. But if you are coming out of Palisades,

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<v Speaker 2>the area to the south is jammed. The area headed

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<v Speaker 2>towards Topega and then into Malibu, you're also going to

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<v Speaker 2>see a lot of traffic, but it's apparently not as

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<v Speaker 2>bad going that direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, the evacuation center.

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<v Speaker 2>One evacuation center that's been set up has been set

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<v Speaker 2>up at the Westwood Recreation Center, which again you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to go through all of that traffic to

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<v Speaker 2>get out of the Palisades. To get into that area.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of the wind that we saw drive this

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<v Speaker 2>thing for the last couple of hours and just grow

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<v Speaker 2>it exponentially, very quickly. Is expected to peak later tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not the good news. I mean, we've seen sustained

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<v Speaker 2>winds in thirty forty mile an hour, but we expect

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<v Speaker 2>winds to peak somewhere around ten o'clock tonight in the

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<v Speaker 2>Palisades area, peaking it around forty five miles per hour sustained,

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<v Speaker 2>which would put the gusts well up over sixty seventy

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<v Speaker 2>miles an hour possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Actor James Woods has posted some very graphic footage from

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<v Speaker 1>his driveway as he's preparing to get out.

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<v Speaker 4>You better hurry the hell up and get out. Several

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<v Speaker 4>homes around there on fire.

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<v Speaker 1>And again it doesn't make it any worse any better,

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<v Speaker 1>but these are as you can imagine multimillion dollar homes

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<v Speaker 1>up in flames. Again, a lot of the conversation, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's too soon to have it, will center around the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Palisades Drive is the main and only.

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<v Speaker 4>Artery out of the affected area.

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<v Speaker 2>The images down Palisades Drive with these cars listen, it's still, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's daylight. That's a good thing. The smoke isn't that

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<v Speaker 2>thick that they can't see ahead of them, but you.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't see daylight when you're down there in it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just all gray and all smoke. And imagine the air

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<v Speaker 1>quality as well. But it's eerily reminiscent of the Skyway. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when everybody was leaving that fire, Paradise up in northern Califoria.

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<v Speaker 1>Skyway is basically Palisades Drive.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the one way out of Paradise, and there

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<v Speaker 2>were so many people that got caught and were afraid

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<v Speaker 2>for their lives while they were trying to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of there.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wonder what the conversation has been. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why we haven't heard more about it, And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just because these fires have become more explosive

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<v Speaker 1>in recent years, But it seems like a conversation that

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<v Speaker 1>we would have been abreast of in the news business

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<v Speaker 1>if this was a major conversation topic and the Pacific Palisades.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was locally, like we were talking to one

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<v Speaker 1>of the community council members about the fact of well,

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<v Speaker 1>worst case scenario, were screwed with this one major artery

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<v Speaker 1>in and out. And I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to think about the worst screwed possibility, and

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<v Speaker 1>today we're screwed, which is why you see people just

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<v Speaker 1>making a run for it, you know, miles away from

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<v Speaker 1>from Sunset Boulevard there, if you're coming down from Palisades,

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<v Speaker 1>just taking off and walking or running down down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think everybody, we all know some people

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<v Speaker 2>who who are in the Palisades. They don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be celebrities, but just neighbors or friends or friends of

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<v Speaker 2>neighbors or whatever that do live in the Palisades. And

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<v Speaker 2>as far as we know, most everybody's getting out quickly

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<v Speaker 2>and getting out safely. But they've had to abandon cars,

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<v Speaker 2>like we've been saying, they've abandoned them, whether it's on

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<v Speaker 2>Palisades Drive or other places on pH As they get

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<v Speaker 2>out of there, it is as life threatening as they expected.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is this is kind of the worst

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<v Speaker 2>case scenario that they were saying, or the very bad

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<v Speaker 2>case scenario that was possible.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's coming to fruition.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's one of those situations where it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>people were dilly dallying.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So often when we cover these fires, there are people

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<v Speaker 1>that are interviewed to say, ma'am, I'm just gonna wait

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<v Speaker 1>it out. I'm just gonna see what goes on. This

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those fires there are. I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five to ninety percent of the people in the

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<v Speaker 1>area said oh, hell no, and just got the hell

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<v Speaker 1>out of there. The thing was moving so quickly, though,

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<v Speaker 1>that as soon as they had that thought and started

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<v Speaker 1>getting in the car, everyone else had that thought. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that people were just waiting and seeing how this

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<v Speaker 1>thing was going to play out.

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<v Speaker 4>They wanted to get out of there, and they did.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that there's so few space on those roads

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<v Speaker 1>to make your way down the hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, the immediate threat to life. The evacuation order is

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<v Speaker 2>very general in terms of its location, but evacuation orders

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<v Speaker 2>are in effect, and they have listed the zones. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all of the palisades. It's the entire from the summit

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<v Speaker 2>all the way to down out of the water. They

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<v Speaker 2>want you out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>And from the summit there, right to the east of

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<v Speaker 1>that neighborhood is where this thing erupted. And it is

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<v Speaker 1>just a steady stream, a massive thick stream of white

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<v Speaker 1>and black smoke, and that black smoke of course, means

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<v Speaker 1>most likely homes burning, and then the fingers, the fingers

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<v Speaker 1>that exist down towards near Santa Monica.

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<v Speaker 4>Of just the spot fires that are.

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<v Speaker 1>Crawling down the terrain there are also just terrifying to

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<v Speaker 1>see because again those embers doesn't take much to get

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<v Speaker 1>them flying and sparking new fires.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so this is going to be an all

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<v Speaker 2>day and probably well into the evening kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>story because as we mentioned, the wind gusts are expected

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<v Speaker 2>to peek later tonight and the red flag warnings for

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<v Speaker 2>this fire danger will continue through the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>It could be until Friday that the red flag war

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<v Speaker 2>are up in those areas. If you are making your

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<v Speaker 2>way out of Palisades, out of Pacific Palisades, there is

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<v Speaker 2>movement in traffic. Yes, it looks pretty grim in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of getting out of there, and we know plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>people have abandoned their cars and are trying to walk out,

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<v Speaker 2>but there is some movement. They finally have it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like a handle on some of the traffic control to

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<v Speaker 2>try to get people out of there as quickly as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Palisades on fire right now pretty much worst case scenario

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of this wind event and how quickly it

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<v Speaker 1>hit this area, no time to respond, no time to

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<v Speaker 1>get out, which is why you've got people abandoning their

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<v Speaker 1>cars on the only major artery in and out of

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<v Speaker 1>the Palisades. There are four lanes, two lanes in each direction,

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<v Speaker 1>but everyone decided to make all four lanes one direction out.

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<v Speaker 4>Problem is fire engines are trying to get in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this was We talked with Quentin Fleming from the

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<v Speaker 2>Community Council, the Pacific Palisades Community Council, and that question

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<v Speaker 2>came up. Is this something that's been talked about. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there are hundreds of homes higher up in the hill

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<v Speaker 2>and only one good way in and out, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like fire is new in this area. So the

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<v Speaker 2>entire area has been placed under evacuation order. There are

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<v Speaker 2>I mean just scores and scores of images on social

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<v Speaker 2>media from really far away where people can see the

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<v Speaker 2>smoke cloud from this well down the coast, well down

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<v Speaker 2>the west side into the beach communities down there. The

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<v Speaker 2>traffic in and out of the Palisades, I shouldn't say

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<v Speaker 2>in the traffic out of the Palisades is very, very thick.

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<v Speaker 2>There is an evacuation center that been set up at

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<v Speaker 2>the Westwood Recreation Center, but it's going to take some

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<v Speaker 2>patients among other things to get there. We do know

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<v Speaker 2>that there have been homes that at least have been damaged.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know of any that are complete losses as

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<v Speaker 2>of this point, but it just seems the way that

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<v Speaker 2>this thing was behaving early on, it's almost an inevitablity

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<v Speaker 2>that we're going to lose some homes in this area

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<v Speaker 2>and it is going to get worse potentially before it

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<v Speaker 2>gets better, if no other reason. Then the winds are

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<v Speaker 2>not expected to die. The winds have not peaked yet.

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<v Speaker 2>It will be several hours before they peak. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>the expectation is that it's sometime between eight and midnight

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<v Speaker 2>tonight when they will peak in that area.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank god, we still have those super Scoopers on loan

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<v Speaker 1>from Quebec. They are able to fly in the winds.

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<v Speaker 1>They are making crucial air drops. They're able to pick

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<v Speaker 1>up water in headwinds of forty five miles per hour.

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<v Speaker 1>So those things were activated right quick and have been

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<v Speaker 1>attacking this thing now for a couple hours.

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<v Speaker 4>The spot fires were.

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<v Speaker 1>A concern that came true very quickly as well. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can see just fingers of active flames working down

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<v Speaker 1>the hills. Here, the fire did jump Palisades Drive from

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<v Speaker 1>the Tamescul side over to the Getty Villa side. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>they do say that the fire is impacting the Gelly

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<v Speaker 1>Villa area, will be impacting the Coastline Drive area. Shortly

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<v Speaker 1>pch non negotiable trying to make your way to the Palisades.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just no way to get in. If you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get into your home or what have you. There's

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not tenable at this situation, at this time.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of quick notes just about we've done this

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time and not had an experience where

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much that is happening at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>an event like this that they don't they being fire authorities,

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<v Speaker 2>don't give out information. They were slow in putting out

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<v Speaker 2>specifics about the evacuation parameters because they were just saying,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in that area, you need to get out.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter what zone you need to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of the Palisades. The other thing is our last number

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<v Speaker 2>is at two hundred acres. It's well over two hundred acres,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can tell that especially with these other spot

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<v Speaker 2>fires that have come up. But their priority is not

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<v Speaker 2>coming up with a number of how many acres. Their

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<v Speaker 2>priority is absolutely protecting people's lives and then protecting properties

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<v Speaker 2>and getting people in and out of their safely.

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<v Speaker 1>It's telling that they don't have acreage. It's telling that

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<v Speaker 1>we are hours away from any sort of containment number.

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<v Speaker 1>All of this is telling that this is their number

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<v Speaker 1>one priority is getting people out, structure protection. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to create a ring around something that is moving like

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<v Speaker 1>this and this quickly and this erratically is near and possible,

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<v Speaker 1>So hopefully they will get some work done from the

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<v Speaker 1>air on this thing before they are able to get

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<v Speaker 1>in there and do the painstaking work that will be

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<v Speaker 1>wildline containment line for this thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Wildfire containment line for a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just literal boots on the ground hand crews that

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<v Speaker 2>are going in some of those areas. There are a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of dozen, it looks like, just based on flight radar,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four aircraft in the area, which in and of

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<v Speaker 2>its self brings a whole series of potential problems. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got to be able to coordinate all of these different

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<v Speaker 2>firefighting aircraft you've got for the tankers. They are usually

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<v Speaker 2>following a spotterer plane or a lead plane that will

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<v Speaker 2>go through and indicate where it is that they need

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<v Speaker 2>to have water or retardant dropped down. On top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got all of the helicopters that are in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Throw into all of that. Like we were saying earlier, this

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<v Speaker 2>mess of traffic getting out of Palisades. The last time,

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<v Speaker 2>about fifteen twenty minutes ago we started seeing some of

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<v Speaker 2>the traffic really starting to move, but that was the

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<v Speaker 2>first time we had seen it in probably an hour

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<v Speaker 2>or so. It looks a lot like as you head

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<v Speaker 2>up the hill up Palisades Drive, you go past a

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<v Speaker 2>little shopping center that's got an Italian place, a little

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant in there, a sushi place, and a Starbucks. That

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<v Speaker 2>hillside just above that, as you head up towards the summit,

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<v Speaker 2>there is on fire and there are crews that are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get some sort of water on that. But

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<v Speaker 2>you could see it right above, right on that hill

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<v Speaker 2>behind that little shopping center, there's all kinds of open flame.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey takeaway from here is if you live in a

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<v Speaker 1>wild fire risk area and you know when you do

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<v Speaker 1>just note that with this wind event we've got, with

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<v Speaker 1>these mountain wave winds coming down, if you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>San Gabriel's, the valleys, wherever you are there, because the

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<v Speaker 1>winds in this event are coming from the north, are

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<v Speaker 1>coming from the east. These things are moving ferociously, So

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<v Speaker 1>you're not going to have time to pack up the

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<v Speaker 1>car the way you normally would have when you are

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<v Speaker 1>given the evacuation order, because likely you're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to evacuate before you get that order. So takeaway from

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<v Speaker 1>this is just be ready to go on a wind

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<v Speaker 1>event like this. I mean, if it means pack in

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<v Speaker 1>a bag, put it in the car now, why not?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not operate out of an abundance of caution. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>the evacuation area is basically all of the palisades from

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<v Speaker 1>Topanga Canyon to the to the west, all the way

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<v Speaker 1>down to pch and all the way over towards towards Brentwood.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just all of the palisades.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't seen much yet of any sort of update

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<v Speaker 2>where we're going to get a news conference out of

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<v Speaker 2>fire authorities and they can give us more information and

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<v Speaker 2>print some specifics probably about the people who might still

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<v Speaker 2>be up in that area. What you can do to

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<v Speaker 2>protect yourself, But we will keep an eye on this

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll bring it to you, of course, live when

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<v Speaker 2>it happens, whether it's our show. John's coming on in

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<v Speaker 2>just a few minutes, and of course Deva and the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the team, you're going to have everything throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the course of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see him minat Manada Manada? What's manada? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that a thing?

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<v Speaker 3>It's a tomorrow's soup. It is tomorrow's menuda.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we'll see youm mignona. Okay, stay drive everybody, blessings.

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