Speaker 1: You are with us on this particular day and on today,
Speaker 1: one hundred days of the Trump White House, dot the
Speaker 1: West myself would kind of analyze that, share our thoughts
Speaker 1: about the one hundred days. And Amazon had the nerve,
Speaker 1: I mean, the pure, unadulterated gall to lift tariffs, to
Speaker 1: list the tariffs in their pricing so that their customers
Speaker 1: could know why each product increased in price and whether
Speaker 1: it was due to terrafts or not due to terrafts.
Speaker 1: And then the White House made a call, so let's
Speaker 1: talk about it. I don't often agree with Amazon, but
Speaker 1: on this one, I thought that was a really good
Speaker 1: thing to do, let consumers know that the prices have
Speaker 1: gone up, and which prices have gone up and the
Speaker 1: reasons why they've gone up. But the White House called
Speaker 1: file as a matter of fact that they said that
Speaker 1: this was a hostile and that was a political act,
Speaker 1: a hostile political act to let consumers know that this
Speaker 1: product or that product increased in.
Speaker 2: Prices because of tariffs.
Speaker 1: Well we'll get to all that, but before that, the
Speaker 1: doctor's in the house, doctor West, what is on your heart,
Speaker 1: your soul, and your mind on this day.
Speaker 3: Well, my dear sister, I just thank God that I'm
Speaker 3: still in my right mind and still able to see
Speaker 3: the sunshine.
Speaker 2: Amen.
Speaker 4: Because when I think of.
Speaker 3: Part of what tablets reflecting on, you know, this anniversary
Speaker 3: Vietnam War, three million people murdered, killed. That's a whole
Speaker 3: lot of people in a short amount of time.
Speaker 4: It really is. And I was.
Speaker 3: Thinking of this is for the audience especially, well for
Speaker 3: all of us. But in nineteen thirty one, the International
Speaker 3: Center for Intellectual Cooperation connected to the League of Nations
Speaker 3: asked Albert Einstein to choose anybody in the world to
Speaker 3: reflect on war, and Einstein chose Sigmund Freud, and the
Speaker 3: letters that they wrote their correspondences, it's one of the
Speaker 3: profound moments of the reflection of the persistence of aggression
Speaker 3: and destruction, of hatred and contempt organized and what we
Speaker 3: could do about it. That Freud had just written in
Speaker 3: the Ego and beyond the pleasure principle and the civilization
Speaker 3: is discontent just a few years before the future of
Speaker 3: an illusion as well. He only had about seven or
Speaker 3: eight years to live, and Freud said, I'm very pessimistic, Einstein.
Speaker 3: All I can see is the possibility of some arrows
Speaker 3: in the face of Thinotosinatos is the death drive. Arrows
Speaker 3: is love drive. How do we redirect arrows in such
Speaker 3: a way that it gets beyond nash and tribalism, so
Speaker 3: that generates forms of solidarity to push back the human
Speaker 3: addiction to self destruction. Now, and I think of the
Speaker 3: Trump administration for the past one hundred years, that's a clear,
Speaker 3: clear illustration of the human addiction to self destruction. It's
Speaker 3: just it's stupidity in the form of not being interested
Speaker 3: in the truth. Not ignorance, because all of us are ignorant.
Speaker 3: All of us don't know certain truths. But when you
Speaker 3: have no interest in the truth, and then when you're
Speaker 3: driven by so much revenge and retribution and contempt and
Speaker 3: hatred every story in the human human history, let you
Speaker 3: know that leads toward destruction. From canaan Abel to the
Speaker 3: Trump one hundred years of one d days.
Speaker 2: Doc, Please don't put one hundred years on us.
Speaker 4: Okay, No, you ain't lied.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we, we black folk, had two hundred and
Speaker 3: forty four years of.
Speaker 4: It, don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Just indeed, you know what I mean, I do.
Speaker 1: We are uniquely glad to.
Speaker 3: Come to the New World, and we locked in for
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty four years of the most barbaric slavery,
Speaker 3: and people get upset for us for being upset. Hey,
Speaker 3: let's be fallible, humble in our quest for truth. And
Speaker 3: condition of truth is to allow suffering to speak. Let's
Speaker 3: be honest and candidate in terms of people's realities, which
Speaker 3: is often atrocities.
Speaker 4: And so when we think of.
Speaker 3: Freud and Einstein, they both concluded, they said, we must
Speaker 3: remain deeply, deeply committed to the pursuit of truth, no
Speaker 3: matter where it takes us. We must remain deeply committed
Speaker 3: to the pursuit of love. We must remain deeply committed
Speaker 3: to the pursuit of solidarity with those who suffer. Now,
Speaker 3: Einstein called himself a militant pacifist. He wasn't just like Martin, Martin,
Speaker 3: King of Desmond, Tutu. He was a militant pacifist. But
Speaker 3: his response was, you got to convince people to refuse
Speaker 3: to fight, because you're always gonna have elites who want
Speaker 3: people to fight. But if the working people don't fight
Speaker 3: for them, let the elites get out there and fight
Speaker 3: the war.
Speaker 4: At least ain't gonna fight no war.
Speaker 3: Wall Street elites Harvard, Yale, Princeton professors. They ain't gonna
Speaker 3: fight no war. No, they want to send the working
Speaker 3: people to fight the war.
Speaker 4: He said.
Speaker 3: Einstein' says, now we have to. That's why he was
Speaker 3: so close to the boys. But when they tried to
Speaker 3: eliminate nuclear weapons, he was close to Paul Robinson. Trying
Speaker 3: to eliminate nuclear weapons. Of course, Robinson and the boys
Speaker 3: rough on the house, arrests and trying to send the
Speaker 3: boys to jail. When he's eighty three years old, they
Speaker 3: would meet at Einstein's house in Princeton, Paul Robinson and
Speaker 3: the boys together. That's the kind of brother Albert Einstein was.
Speaker 3: He's like Norm Johnson, you know what I mean of
Speaker 3: our day. And Freud himself in Europe not a radical.
Speaker 3: Freud was not politically radical, but he he had a
Speaker 3: sensitivity and he had an intellectual genius. And when you
Speaker 3: just think of war in all of his form, war aggression, destruction, massacre, lynching, rape, violation,
Speaker 3: that drive you crazy.
Speaker 1: Oh my mama, absolutely it would, It does and it
Speaker 1: still can. You're listening to Truth Time, doctor Cornell West
Speaker 1: and Nina Turner. When we come forward, we will continue.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So.
Speaker 1: Doctor dropping those gems about doctor W. B. The boys,
Speaker 1: Paul Robinson and Albert in.
Speaker 2: Just rivety.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wish I could have been invisible in
Speaker 1: the room to listen to the conversations that they would
Speaker 1: have about the complex issues, the complexities of war about
Speaker 1: What really got me is the statement about the human
Speaker 1: addiction to self destruction. I don't necessarily think we think
Speaker 1: about ourselves like that as a species that were driven
Speaker 1: to self destruct.
Speaker 3: Well, you think of so many instances and all of
Speaker 3: the different wars and the ways in which you acknowledge
Speaker 3: so science and technology in such creative ways to destroy
Speaker 3: each other. You know, in World War two almost one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million, War War one had forty five million.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of people dead. That's a whole lot
Speaker 3: of people did And when Martin said that the choices
Speaker 3: between none violence and non existence, or when JFK said,
Speaker 3: those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution. In
Speaker 3: this issue of violence and aggression, and of course it's
Speaker 3: the psyche. There's psychic violence, there's spiritual violence, there's economic violence,
Speaker 3: there's political violence. But then there is physical violence, militaristic violence,
Speaker 3: and all of those manifestations win crystallized lead toward not
Speaker 3: just destruction, but in the end self destruction. We're right
Speaker 3: on the edge of self destruction right now in terms
Speaker 3: of ecological collapse, of possible nuclear wars. And of course
Speaker 3: we've got Taiwan on the one hand with China, and
Speaker 3: you got the Middle East. Just think of genocide. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's Lord have Mercha. I mean, it's just it's beyond
Speaker 3: belief that people could just keep killing palastan in babies
Speaker 3: every day for eighteen nineteen twenty months. And Harley politicians
Speaker 3: can say a word. That's the kind of stuff that
Speaker 3: Einstein and Freud and du Bois and Robesen we're talking about.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying as true with black folk
Speaker 3: in regard to the lynchings and the good God Amighty.
Speaker 3: What is it about us as human beings that somehow
Speaker 3: we don't muster the courage to raise our voices to
Speaker 3: say something and do something in the face of that
Speaker 3: kind of immorality and inhumanity and criminality.
Speaker 4: Now, thank god, we do have OHK who do no
Speaker 4: doubt about that.
Speaker 3: Einstein, duboce Robes and Fanny Loui and Martin King rab
Speaker 3: by head.
Speaker 4: So you know, we gol win Zai. There's a cloud of.
Speaker 3: Witnesses, but there it's just it's not like there's a
Speaker 3: major uprising.
Speaker 1: No, it's not. And that is something to wrestle with.
Speaker 1: I mean, yesterday we were talking about wrestling with the power.
Speaker 1: Is the power of love stronger than the love of power?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: M It is an age old question for humanity.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think we as human beings think of
Speaker 1: ourselves as as addicted to self destruction. But we have many,
Speaker 1: many examples throughout the existence of humankind.
Speaker 2: That we really are. And so whether or not we're
Speaker 2: able to look at the man, the.
Speaker 1: Women, the people in the mirror and make that change,
Speaker 1: you know, to quote some ofer brother Michael Jackson's song,
Speaker 1: that is a very powerful song if you think.
Speaker 3: About its idea. They understood the truth about that. And
Speaker 3: the good news is that we can break the addiction.
Speaker 3: The good news is that we could interrupt it. We
Speaker 3: could disrupt it, we could erupt it. But how long
Speaker 3: will the interruption ass You know, when I see what's
Speaker 3: going on my precious brothers and sisters, and Sudan and
Speaker 3: the conoing and Kenya and Hey Lord, have mercy. Lord
Speaker 3: you're Ukraine, Russia, Cashmere. I was just in Vancouver, you know,
Speaker 3: this weekend. I was right around the corner where that
Speaker 3: accident took place with the when they brother drove his
Speaker 3: car right into the precious Filipinos festival.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what is going?
Speaker 4: My god? My god?
Speaker 3: What is we human beings that too many of us
Speaker 3: are just so cold and callous and cowardly when we
Speaker 3: got to still love them? You know, I'm a Christian,
Speaker 3: so I know people always make fun of me these days.
Speaker 3: You know, you turn to love Everyboddy. I'm tired of
Speaker 3: your Christianity. Sorry, I'm not apologizing.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't you shouldn't have to, but it is wild.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's an ugly reality that we have to
Speaker 3: wrestle with, There's no doubt about it. You think anniversary
Speaker 3: of Vietnam, all the protests, all the resistance, and we
Speaker 3: still couldn't bring it to a clothes quick enough.
Speaker 1: No, it's never quick enough, especially for those who are suffering,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think about the great Muhammad Ali
Speaker 1: indicting this country willing to give up, was penalized for
Speaker 1: refusing to go and fight, and just paraphrasing his words.
Speaker 1: But you know he said the vietcom never called him
Speaker 1: the end work and the power in him saying that
Speaker 1: you got you sending me over here fight of the
Speaker 1: brown people who've never done anything to me as a
Speaker 1: black man. But yet in my own country, I gotta
Speaker 1: fight and gravel for everything that I get. My people
Speaker 1: have to fight and gravel for everything that they get.
Speaker 2: No, I ain't going to fight your war.
Speaker 4: Wow, freemand.
Speaker 3: Mohammad Alis nobody like and truth teller and one of
Speaker 3: the most hated people in the country when he said that,
Speaker 3: and when he did that, and he ends up in
Speaker 3: his life one of the most loved of all folk
Speaker 3: in the country. Yes, very swing and vacillate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was very much ahead of his time. You know,
Speaker 2: time had to catch up with him.
Speaker 1: And I think most freedom fighters like us are ahead
Speaker 1: of our time and our indictments and our critiques and
Speaker 1: also in our vision for the future. And I'm saying oh,
Speaker 1: because I'm putting you and me right in that category.
Speaker 1: But if you look at any of the greatest leaders
Speaker 1: who put out propositions or goals or visions and then
Speaker 1: also critique this nation and the world They were very
Speaker 1: much ahead of their times, and then time caught up
Speaker 1: with them. And I look forward to us, you know,
Speaker 1: teaching about going a little deeper on one of the
Speaker 1: greatest they graded the goat, one of the goats in boxing,
Speaker 1: the one and only Muhammad Ali. When you've giving up
Speaker 1: your paycheck like that and also your physical freedom, I mean,
Speaker 1: this country tried to destroy this. We're not talking about
Speaker 1: individual see, that's that's the thing. We're talking about the
Speaker 1: whole system that is controlled by people, created by people
Speaker 1: indicted brother Muhammad Ali and tried to take everything from
Speaker 1: him that he worked for. But you talk about one
Speaker 1: of the greatest comeback kids, there have been many in
Speaker 1: black history. That's the black people we know about being
Speaker 1: the come back, doing the great comeback. But his is
Speaker 1: certainly up there one of the greatest comebacks in American history.
Speaker 3: No doubt about that, no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: And we don't I don't necessarily think we have and
Speaker 1: not It's a hard thing for people to make a
Speaker 1: paycheck sacrifice, a career sacrifice. So I don't say this lightly,
Speaker 1: but in within the field of entertainment and athletes, I
Speaker 1: don't see many people willing to do that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you and I certainly have been blessed to travel the
Speaker 1: country with some and I'm talking about the great Danny Glover,
Speaker 1: oh elital weapon himself.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about people like Susan Sarandon.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, oh, that's so very true.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they don't necessarily get the types of movies
Speaker 1: and you know, play for their talent because they've spoken
Speaker 1: out for the human rights to both people in this
Speaker 1: country and the human rights of people abroad. I mean,
Speaker 1: brother Glover spent a lot of time speaking out and
Speaker 1: standing up with the Patians and the sister students surrounding
Speaker 1: the same thing on the Palestinian issue, a sister surrounding
Speaker 1: the same thing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: So that we do have people who come along who
Speaker 1: are willing, they're just doing the right thing, and then
Speaker 1: the system punishes at them for it. But that's sacrifice
Speaker 1: to even say anything about it is incredible.
Speaker 4: That's so true. You think all your David Ruby.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes, two of the greats. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had a chance to meet Ruby d when I
Speaker 1: was a sophomore at Kyahogan Community College and she came
Speaker 1: in to give a talk and just brilliant, I mean
Speaker 1: as brilliant as she was, beautiful, as talented and caring.
Speaker 4: It's caring.
Speaker 3: Let me. I used to go to her church with
Speaker 3: she and right right outside of dround Mount Vernon, it
Speaker 3: was White Plains Church, White Plains Baptist Church, because he
Speaker 3: was a deacon. Actually, he was the first one actually
Speaker 3: to call me when I published Prophesied Deliverance in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty two. He was the first one to call invited
Speaker 3: me to go to his church and talk about his book.
Speaker 3: I was saying, I'm gonna be there early.
Speaker 4: I'm early, I'm gonna be waiting on the janitor in
Speaker 4: the church. He was calling me Ruby Di Oh Lord
Speaker 4: have merch Wow. Well you know how blessed I was.
Speaker 3: But they're in the same great legacy of the divorces
Speaker 3: that Harry Belafontes and Danny Glovers, the Cecily Tyson's, the
Speaker 3: we can go on and on. The Gilts got Heron's,
Speaker 3: the Ninas, the moms got those two.
Speaker 4: Nina, Nina, Nina.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just doing what needs to be done. I don't
Speaker 1: see a whole lot of that in entertainment. My point,
Speaker 1: long way to make the point is I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: see a lot of that kind of courage in entertainment
Speaker 1: or in the rim of athletics.
Speaker 2: He certainly Colin Kaepernick, Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, absolutely absolutely. And my hunters is that Lebron
Speaker 3: he wants to do more. You could tell he's got
Speaker 3: such a good golden heart. Probably some people around him
Speaker 3: don't want him to go too far because you remember
Speaker 3: around Black Lives Matter he was pushing.
Speaker 4: He was pushing, he was even I think moving.
Speaker 3: Toward a possible boycott and things, and know, just wear
Speaker 3: his shirt and so forth, all's up and talks to him,
Speaker 3: try to dampen his fight, and no, you don't want
Speaker 3: to push it too far. And you could tell Lebron
Speaker 3: really wanted to stretch on out because you know, he
Speaker 3: represents the best of Akron. But we got Kendrick, We
Speaker 3: got brother Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 2: That is true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, He's.
Speaker 2: Team.
Speaker 1: They are definitely some, no doubt. I'm definitely not saying
Speaker 1: they're not some. There would be more. I mean, if
Speaker 1: more would stand up, then they couldn't hit just one.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right, and they had a united front of
Speaker 3: a whole wave level.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh, look, imagine if Lebron never got that call from
Speaker 1: President Barack Obama to stand down because if all the players,
Speaker 1: especially if all the black players, you.
Speaker 2: Ain't got a league no more. There ain't nothing they
Speaker 2: could do. They couldn't touch it.
Speaker 3: That they are in the driver's seat and the vanilla
Speaker 3: brothers and sisters who would join.
Speaker 4: But oh, absolutely lead the way.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't that be something? Oh Lord have merged football too.
Speaker 2: I could see it. I could see it.
Speaker 1: Kyrine Irving Jalen Brown as brother Miles's letting us know,
Speaker 1: lift up Kyrie. I mean Kyrie did speak out and
Speaker 1: they slapped him down right away. And Jalen Brown, thank
Speaker 1: you that for that, Brother Miles from the NBA. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we do, we have some, We definitely have some.
Speaker 1: But that, yeah, that United Front, if they all did
Speaker 1: it together at the same time, they would shut it down.
Speaker 3: Shut it down in the name of Martin King and
Speaker 3: Fanny lou Aima and donnads the way.
Speaker 1: That part, that part, Oh my god, we need that,
Speaker 1: you know, we really need that. Today of one of
Speaker 1: our viewers, you know, your your blood wife sent us
Speaker 1: a message and said, don't talk over each other. So
Speaker 1: if the audience want to know why we're being very
Speaker 1: deliberate in our back and forth. The way the system works,
Speaker 1: if we talk at the same time, it cancels one
Speaker 1: of us out. And so she sent us a message
Speaker 1: in the email today she said, my love, it don't
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 3: We understand, love you Love you.
Speaker 1: So doctor Wis, and I being very very deliberate today.
Speaker 2: Doc.
Speaker 1: You know another leader that really spoke out against war.
Speaker 1: It was Asa Phil Randolph. He said, if you make
Speaker 1: him unprofitable, you kill it right there.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And when he and Chauncy Owens, as editors of
Speaker 3: The Messenger, came out against the war in nineteen seventeen.
Speaker 2: World War One, they had to go under.
Speaker 3: You know, they stayed wild and Walter Trotter's basement because
Speaker 3: police was hunting them down in Boston. And Walter Trotter
Speaker 3: was he was the editor of the Radical Guardian. You know,
Speaker 3: Harvard graduated with the boys, and Trotter was a bad brother.
Speaker 2: Yes he was.
Speaker 3: And everybody running scared from Rando. You kept him in
Speaker 3: the basement because the police would drag all of them
Speaker 3: out together.
Speaker 1: Gotta go in hiding, deep solid, yeah, just a stand
Speaker 1: up for justice. You gotta go into hiding.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Trotter would be another great one for us to highlight
Speaker 1: Doc in one of our teaching our teaching Thursday, so
Speaker 1: I will definitely add him to the list. You are
Speaker 1: listening to Truth Time with doctor Cornell West and Nina Turner.
Speaker 2: When we come forward, we're gonna continue.
Speaker 1: This definitely try our best to bring love and truth
Speaker 1: together on Truth Time.
Speaker 2: Doc.
Speaker 1: It is that time, the time for us to dip
Speaker 1: into our live chat that is happening over on the tube.
Speaker 1: As my grandson says, link me up to the tube. Yeah, yea,
Speaker 1: So here we go. We got Morris Phillips. Good afternoon,
Speaker 1: Senator and doctor West. Thank you for your courage. Now
Speaker 1: we appreciate you, brother Morris Phillips so much, A blessed peacemaker. Greetings,
Speaker 1: Senator Turner, Doctor West. I am so thankful for this show.
Speaker 1: I look forward to it all day. Watching from Africa.
Speaker 1: What's going down in the USA. I need to hear
Speaker 1: from y'all to reground myself in hope. Ain't that the
Speaker 1: truth that.
Speaker 3: We do Africa as a source of hope, Because there's
Speaker 3: some magni is there who was struggling against you in
Speaker 3: this courage and determined.
Speaker 1: Absolutely to keep this going. Brother Morris Phillips, again, Sigmund
Speaker 1: Freud taught us that the mind can be trained, conditioned,
Speaker 1: and programmed just like Pablo's dog.
Speaker 4: That's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you were making that point. Doctor.
Speaker 1: We can we can see the world anew, we can
Speaker 1: dream it anew, we can act anew and do something different.
Speaker 1: So I'm with you on that, brother Phillips, we both are.
Speaker 1: We got Daniel Samir Karen, Good afternoon, Doctor Wester Senter Returner,
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, kb La fam Well, good afternoon. We appreciate that,
Speaker 1: brother Morris Phillips. Again, Paul Robinson had his passport taken.
Speaker 1: That oh yeah, thank you for reminding us of that.
Speaker 1: And then he goes on and question what freedom, what freedom.
Speaker 2: Was to speak? So he had his passport taken. That
Speaker 2: is so true.
Speaker 4: Oh Lord, yes, no.
Speaker 3: And the text on him was so intense that he
Speaker 3: was robbed of his livelihood. We've talked before on this
Speaker 3: show about him living at forty six forty five Walnut
Speaker 3: Street in Philadelphia with his sister and his brother was
Speaker 3: the pastor of the church right here in Harlem, the
Speaker 3: Amesion Church, and that was one of the few places
Speaker 3: actually where he could speak in public. But with his
Speaker 3: livelihood taking away that he had no way of sustaining himself.
Speaker 4: It was a very ugly situation. You know.
Speaker 3: One of his last public appearances was he spoke. He
Speaker 3: gave the eulogy for Lorraine Hansbury when she died in
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty five, which was a few days before Malcolm Malcolm.
Speaker 4: X was sitting on the front row Wow.
Speaker 3: She died January sixty five. Malcolm was shot February and
Speaker 3: the only time Malcolm really had a chance to spend
Speaker 3: a little time with Paul Roberson. He only had a
Speaker 3: few weeks to live. But Paul came out of a
Speaker 3: certain kind of repressive situation because they were so close.
Speaker 3: Lorraine Hansbury and he had worked on the Freedom magazine
Speaker 3: that he founded. She was associate editor, and she died
Speaker 3: at thirty four, and he wanted to be there to speak.
Speaker 3: But to think that, you know, one of the greatest
Speaker 3: figures of the twentieth century, Paul Robeson is treated in
Speaker 3: the way that he was. It's it's it's it's a.
Speaker 4: It's more than a disgrace.
Speaker 3: It's disgusting how America too often crushes the best of
Speaker 3: its own, and especially the best of its black folks.
Speaker 1: Oh No, doubt about it. Many many receipts on that
Speaker 1: far too many is are actually scandalous.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a return into our live chat. We
Speaker 1: got sister Selena Rix in the house. Hey, since we
Speaker 1: haven't seen you in a while. Time to make a change,
Speaker 1: talking about the man in the mirror. Time to make
Speaker 1: a change. Michael Jackson. That was such a great song.
Speaker 1: We are a child of God. We keep the pain
Speaker 1: and stuff from going by supporting the system with labor
Speaker 1: and money.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm mmmm. Oh.
Speaker 2: I don't think people, it's like being a hamster back
Speaker 2: on that wheel. You know you need money. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: that's it. That's it.
Speaker 1: But great, great point, child of God, Morris Phillips. Doctor
Speaker 1: William Barber was arrested praying to the Father your your
Speaker 1: next doctor West. Oh wow, well you've been arrested several
Speaker 1: times after West standing on the front line.
Speaker 4: Oh there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that that that happens. I mean, child of
Speaker 1: God again, the system is a lot of our of
Speaker 1: our gods, you know, lower case gods. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're worshiping some stuff. I mean that really what it
Speaker 1: comes down to, what are we worshiping? What are we
Speaker 1: lifting up, Miles Li Langston. I think, Miles welcome. We
Speaker 1: lose the spirit if the history is not taught, especially
Speaker 1: to our youth. And that's probably one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why the Trump administration is attacking history so tough.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right, That's precisely right. But the thing about
Speaker 3: history that it's something to not just read about and
Speaker 3: learn from, but it's something to live because history is
Speaker 3: not about being a spectator of the past, but it's
Speaker 3: being it's a matter of being a participant in the
Speaker 3: present in light of the best of our history.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna put some amens on that blessed peacemaker.
Speaker 2: Well, Ruben Garcia, Hey, Ruben Garcia Welcome. Blessed are the peacemakers,
Speaker 2: Brother Ruben put in the chat.
Speaker 3: Now see he going back through the sermon on the
Speaker 3: mount and the sermon on the plane.
Speaker 2: Let's get out of peacemakers, esus sermon now or they
Speaker 2: shall oh yes.
Speaker 1: And here the earth go ahead on, brother Carsia, Oh,
Speaker 1: bless it, bless the peacemaker. Doctor has a question, Senator Turner,
Speaker 1: please ask doctor West about Jen Langley setting the stage
Speaker 1: for razime change in uh Burkina.
Speaker 2: Am not pronouncing that right? Is that sounding familiar to you?
Speaker 1: Dot the Afrikaan uh uh sentegon Afrikaan black facing to
Speaker 1: promote talk taking out African leaders working for the people.
Speaker 3: Oh, they're talking about the US policy of African that's
Speaker 3: been in place for a while. That's been sighting with
Speaker 3: the reactionary and repressive forces in Africa, especially buying off
Speaker 3: or co opting African leadership that downplays the plight of
Speaker 3: pressure poor and working people in Africa. And there hasn't
Speaker 3: been enough stress on the various strategies and tactics of
Speaker 3: the US empire in Africa when it comes to the
Speaker 3: Africaan efforts and agenda to gain allow the United States
Speaker 3: to gain access to minerals and to support the repressive
Speaker 3: leaders there now here, I give a brother or Jahan
Speaker 3: Mubaraka and the Black Peace, Black Alliance for Peace. I
Speaker 3: give them some strong, strong credits for this that they
Speaker 3: do keep track of. This Black Agenda Report does too
Speaker 3: not enough. People do not enough very much.
Speaker 1: So our audience can go to the Black Agenda Report
Speaker 1: and what was the other one.
Speaker 3: They can go to Black Agenda Report, They can go
Speaker 3: to Black Alliance for Peace to keep black track in
Speaker 3: Africa visa VI the imperial elites in Washington, d C.
Speaker 3: And that's true for Trump administration, Biden administration, Bush administration
Speaker 3: or Bomba administration. It's an imperial issue which cuts across parties.
Speaker 1: That part and the scramble for Africa has been from
Speaker 1: the beginning. You know, a pope not you know, I know,
Speaker 1: Pope Francis just just passed away, but you know, dividing
Speaker 1: up the continent of Africa between European powers.
Speaker 2: I mean really anyway, you are listening.
Speaker 3: Back to the Berlin Conferences the early eighteen eighty they
Speaker 3: just said down, they wle put the map out, we
Speaker 3: will slid it up.
Speaker 1: Spain you get this, Portugal you get I mean this.
Speaker 1: We can't we not making this stuff up. This is
Speaker 1: this is really real. This is real life. You're listening
Speaker 1: to Truth Toown without the Cornell West and Nina Turner
Speaker 1: when we come forward, going to continue this conversation.
Speaker 2: So glad that you are.
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Speaker 1: they are so good. So we have Robert gilfis High
Speaker 1: Professor and Senator, I hope you're both well and then
Speaker 1: blessed Peacemaker says to doctor Anahida, Thanks doctor Anahida.
Speaker 2: For keeping them straight, keeping us straight.
Speaker 1: Oh, I love it, I love it, love it. We
Speaker 1: got Danielle samr in here. Shout out to Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 1: He speaks out about our folks in Palestine. Yes he does,
Speaker 1: and that is why they wanted to slap him down.
Speaker 1: So you write about that, Daniel We really appreciate you
Speaker 1: recognizing that a child of God black folks are about
Speaker 1: the lead is hell hole in mass It's trickle now,
Speaker 1: but watch so, I don't know. Child of God may
Speaker 1: be calling on the spirit or the wonderful Marcus Garvey
Speaker 1: in that in.
Speaker 2: That regard, Oh my god, so so good.
Speaker 1: Morris Phillips again, doctor West, I believe that the NBA
Speaker 1: would cancel games or stop playing players or stop paying players.
Speaker 2: The rich people would continue to eat.
Speaker 1: So you know what that's that's interesting that that he
Speaker 1: would say that. In other words, if the black players
Speaker 1: united and said these are our demands that we're not playing,
Speaker 1: would they give in and recognize the feet or would
Speaker 1: they babe being the owners? And I hate thesing that
Speaker 1: term when it comes to these sports. It's just a
Speaker 1: hang up for me, just because I talk like history
Speaker 1: and the whole notion of owning other people. It just
Speaker 1: messes with me. That's my thing to work out. I'll
Speaker 1: put that in a park a lot. But going back
Speaker 1: to the larger question here is would they dig in
Speaker 1: their heels or would they recognize that they were defeated
Speaker 1: if the black players and masks and their allies of
Speaker 1: other walks of life, if they all you know, and said,
Speaker 1: here are demands, We're not playing.
Speaker 3: The NBA with cave in in a moment because the
Speaker 3: demand is so high, millions and millions and mins of
Speaker 3: folks that can't wait to see the game every night
Speaker 3: every weekend. It's just like la to night. What's gonna
Speaker 3: happen with Lebron? Are they gonna be able to sustain themselves?
Speaker 3: Will they get canceled out? You got mins of people
Speaker 3: around the.
Speaker 4: World, NBA, these these.
Speaker 3: These like you said, it's not owners, but it's it's called,
Speaker 3: you know, slice of the ruling class.
Speaker 2: Yes, I like that better, dog.
Speaker 4: I just has to deal with supply and demand.
Speaker 3: With it.
Speaker 2: The almighty dollar right exactly.
Speaker 3: Oh, now you can go in through the OJS now
Speaker 3: minding miney.
Speaker 1: That's that's it. That's it, y'all. Ben't need to go
Speaker 1: listen to that song Oh money change. Oh man, it's
Speaker 1: playing in my head right now. I'm not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to get that song out of my head. So
Speaker 1: all of this, you know, tying this up, wrapping this
Speaker 1: up in terms of you know, the Trump presidency, the
Speaker 1: one hundred days, some of the things that the president
Speaker 1: i'mised on day one. I mean, he made a lot
Speaker 1: of day one promises that have not come to pass.
Speaker 1: And one of those promises was to bring down prices
Speaker 1: and restore economic prosperity. And the last time I checked,
Speaker 1: you know, this tariff war is causing the cost of
Speaker 1: goods to increase, and that is that will impact and
Speaker 1: is impact in working class people in this country. And
Speaker 1: economic prosperity has not been restored to the majority of
Speaker 1: the people who live in this country. Now, if you
Speaker 1: in the one percent, oh you, it's flowing like milk
Speaker 1: and honey. But if you just every day, no, not
Speaker 1: happening for you.
Speaker 2: And consumer confidence is down to doctor.
Speaker 3: That's true, that's exactly right, and declining. But no, I
Speaker 3: mean Trump has been consistently gangsteristic.
Speaker 1: Consistency consistently gangsteristic. Hold that thought, Doc, when we're going forward,
Speaker 1: we're gonna start right there.
Speaker 2: You're listening to truth, time, love and truth.
Speaker 1: Indeed, Doc, you were consistently gangsteristic. Is how you describe
Speaker 1: the current president? Please illuminate us.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I mean brother Trump is a gangster.
Speaker 3: He knows it, The world knows it. And that means
Speaker 3: he doesn't give a damn about rule of law, doesn't
Speaker 3: give damn about constitution, doesn't give it damn about liberty,
Speaker 3: doesn't give it damn by po folk, doesn't give it
Speaker 3: damn by browner immigrants, doesn't give it damn about the
Speaker 3: masters of black folk, you're very clear about that. Doesn't
Speaker 3: give it damn about folk in Africa. He's you certain
Speaker 3: language we won't have to use about characterizing.
Speaker 4: He is true.
Speaker 3: To his worst self. Now, does he have a best self? Well,
Speaker 3: of course, you know, everybody got a best self, but
Speaker 3: if it's been dormant for the last fifty years, it's
Speaker 3: hard for it to come back to life. But he's
Speaker 3: true to his worst self, and he had forces behind
Speaker 3: him Wall Street, big military one, and he's convinced the
Speaker 3: majority of vanilla brothers and sisters that's who voted for him.
Speaker 3: Was it fifty four percent of white brothers and fifty
Speaker 3: four percent of white sisters and fifty two percent of
Speaker 3: white brothers, or if white folk in the country voted
Speaker 3: for Neil Fashionst. We got to come terms with that.
Speaker 3: But things are changing. Nothing remains the same, Nothing is
Speaker 3: static and stationary, and we just have to be equipped
Speaker 3: and we got to be fortified to tell the truth,
Speaker 3: to keep bearing witness, keep track of people to humanity
Speaker 3: and not allow others to push us down in the
Speaker 3: gutter of hatred and bitterness. We still got smiles on
Speaker 3: our faces, we still got joy in our heart, and
Speaker 3: we got to love that the world didn't give us
Speaker 3: in the world can't take.
Speaker 2: Away, cannot do that at all.
Speaker 1: Yes, the president, to your point, is him being confident
Speaker 1: in his gangster style.
Speaker 2: I mean even when he was this recent.
Speaker 1: Interview that he did and knowing that people are falling
Speaker 1: tough times, the President basically said where they knew this
Speaker 1: because I said it when I was running. So yes,
Speaker 1: he is transparently who he is. Things are changing, dot
Speaker 1: and that is the beautiful thing. People are rising up
Speaker 1: and they're getting a better understanding. Well, this has been
Speaker 1: a stole cold blast. You're listening the truth time. But
Speaker 1: doctor Cornell West and Nina Turner, we want you to
Speaker 1: live your life on purpose, Understand your purpose, real rest
Speaker 1: in your purpose. But know this, titles are good for
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