Speaker 1: Aliens are real, but I haven't seen them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is. That's a sentence that just completely stops
you cold, isn't it. It just hangs there in the air.
Speaker 1: It really does. It absolutely does. And let's just be
super clear right out of the gate here. That quote
that isn't from some random guy on a message board.
That isn't a sci fi writer trying to sell a
new book. That is a direct on the record quote
from former President Barack Obama.
Speaker 2: It is he said it on the No Lie with
Brian Tyler Cone Show. And I mean, obviously we need
to be very precise about the context here, because well,
context is literally everything.
Speaker 1: In this field, right exactly.
Speaker 2: But the simple fact that those specific words came out
of the mouth of a former commander in chief that
marks a very specific moment in history.
Speaker 1: It really feels like the ground is shifting under our feet.
I mean, welcome to thrilling threads everyone. I am so
ready to pull at this loose thread today until the
entire sweater of our reality just completely unravels.
Speaker 2: I brought my own yarn to pool, so we are
ready awesome.
Speaker 1: Because today isn't just about scooky lights in the sky
or those grainy photos from the nineteen fifties that just
looked like hubcaps thrown in the air.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the classic pie pans on a string.
Speaker 1: Exactly. Today, we are looking at a fundamental shift in
the narrative. We are diving into a stack of reports
here that are, frankly, they're startling.
Speaker 2: They really are. We're looking at military leaks, official congressional hearings,
massive civilian databases, and just this huge surge of activity
recorded from late twenty twenty four straight through twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: And when we say activity, let's be super clear for
you listening. We aren't talking about a blurry dot on
the horizon that might be a weather balloon.
Speaker 2: No, not at all.
Speaker 1: We are talking about military missiles physically bouncing off glowing orbs.
We're talking about drone swarms descending on the East coast
like something out of a disaster movie. We're talking about
hieroglyphics like actual ancient looking symbols on floating pyramids.
Speaker 2: I know it sounds exact act like science fiction, like
a Hollywood screenplay, it really does. Yeah, But the sources
we are unpacking today, we're talking the National UFO Reporting Center, data,
leaked military audio, the official AARO reports. They treat this
as hard, verifiable data. Our mission today is to look
at the patterns in that data and ask what it
all actually means.
Speaker 1: I have to admit I'm walking into this with a
mix of excitement and just total confusion, Like I am
ready to believe, but some of this stuff it pushes
the absolute limit of what my brain wants to accept.
Speaker 2: And that's honestly the healthiest approach you can have. My
role here is to kind of be the tether. I
want to look at the why and the how behind
this surge.
Speaker 1: Good, keep me grounded.
Speaker 2: I'll try, because something is definitely happening, and the numbers
absolutely back it up. We aren't just sitting around telling
ghost stories. We are analyzing a massive data set.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's unpack that Obama moment first, ye, because
for me, that was the signal flare. It felt like,
I don't know, it felt like permission to finally take
this seriously.
Speaker 2: It was certainly a catalyst. So let's just set the
scene properly for everyone. Obama is doing this political interview
with Brian Tyler Cohen. It's a standard format. They're talking politics, policy,
the usual fair right, but then Colin moves into this
quick Q and a segment toward the end and just
ask some point blank are aliens real?
Speaker 1: And Obama who is? You know? Famously plays it cool.
He's a no drama Obama guy. He doesn't dodge it.
He doesn't make a joke about the men in black
showing up at his door or weather balloons.
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't.
Speaker 1: He just looks and says they're real, but I haven't
seen them.
Speaker 2: Right now, we do have to be responsible here. Within
hours of that interview, dropping that clip was absolutely everywhere.
The internet just exploded.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was all over my feet.
Speaker 2: But Obama did clarify his statement immediately after that SoundBite.
He explained that he was referring to the what he
called the cosmic probability of life existing elsewhere just because
of the sheer vastness of the universe.
Speaker 1: Sure, the numbers game argument, there are billions of galaxies,
trillions of stars. Statistically, we can't possibly be the only
ones of the party exactly.
Speaker 2: And he also made it explicitly clear that during his
presidency he saw zero evidence that extraterrestrials have actually made
contact with us. Right, He never claimed they visited Earth,
or that he had a secret meeting with them in
the Lincoln bedroom.
Speaker 1: But and here's where it gets really interesting to me. Anyway,
he admitted that when he first became president, his very
first question when he got into the Oval office was
where are the aliens?
Speaker 2: It really humanizes the curiosity, doesn't that.
Speaker 1: It totally does. Even the most powerful person on the planet,
the guy with the literal nuclear codes, just wants to
know if we're alone in the universe. It shows that
the curiosity is just a universal human trait.
Speaker 2: Exactly. But even with his clarification about probability, the tone
has undeniably changed. Think about it. Presidents didn't used to
say aliens are real out loud, even in a theoretical
cosmic sense.
Speaker 1: No way. It used to be the third rail of politics, exactly.
Speaker 2: You touch it, you look crazy, You look like you're
distracted from the economy or national security.
Speaker 1: Right your opponents would just tear you apart for talking
about little green men.
Speaker 2: That is the key shift we're seeing. It's the window
of acceptable discourse opening up. A former president is openly
stating that life beyond Earth is real. That is a
level of transparency, or at least a willingness to engage
with the topic seriously that we haven't never really seen before.
It legitimizes the conversation for everyone else.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that openness from the top is
absolutely trickling down to the public because the year twenty
twenty five, it wasn't just a normal year for UFOs.
It was a massive banner year.
Speaker 2: The data supports that entirely. We're looking at a report
right now from the National UFO Reporting Center, and.
Speaker 1: UFO keep been around forever.
Speaker 2: Right decades. They've been collecting civilian sightings for decades. This
isn't just some flash in the pan website built yesterday.
This is a rigorous database that serious researchers rely on.
And in the first half of twenty twenty five alone,
there were two two and seventy four claimed sightings.
Speaker 1: Let me just repeat that, twy one hundred and seventy
four in six months. That is roughly twelve sightings a day,
every single day, twelve different people or groups are seeing
something they can't explain.
Speaker 2: And that is a massive spite compared to the exact
same period in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: So what does that actually mean is the fleet arriving
or are people just looking up at the sky more
because Obama said aliens are real.
Speaker 2: That's the million dollar question, isn't it. The source material
we have notes that the topic has become more mainstream
than ever before. There is way more talk in the
regular media about UAP's unidentified anomaloust phenomena. So a huge
part of this could just be a reduction in the
cultural stigma.
Speaker 1: Right like ten years ago, if you saw a weird
light do a zigzag in the sky, you told your spouse,
maybe your best friend after a couple of drinks, but
you definitely didn't file an official government report.
Speaker 2: You didn't want to be the crazy UFO guy exactly.
Speaker 1: You didn't want to lose your security clearance at work
or ruin your reputation in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Precisely. Now people are actually willing to speak up. They're
submitting formal reports with dates, times, and coordinates. But we
also have to look at what they are actually seeing.
The descriptions aren't just generic lights in the sky.
Speaker 1: Anymore, right, It's getting super specific.
Speaker 2: We are getting very specific taxonomies. People are reporting clear triangles,
metallic discs, glowing orbs, and these massive cigar shaped objects.
Speaker 1: It's the variety that really gets me. If it was
just one type of craft over and over, you could
easily just say, oh, that's a secret military project. That's
just the new stealth bomber they're testing in the desert. Yeah.
But we are seeing a whole zoo of different.
Speaker 2: Shapes, and that variety suggests extreme complexity. It suggests that
whatever is happening, it isn't just a singular, isolated event.
It's a phenomenon with multiple different facets or maybe even
multiple origins. And it's not just civilians in their backyards
reporting this stuff anymore. The most compelling data, the stuff
that really completely he defies explanation, is coming straight from
the military.
Speaker 1: This is the stuff that genuinely keeps me up at night.
Let's talk about the California football incident. Because this isn't
a blurry iPhone photo. This is an actual audio recording
from a highly trained military pilot who sounds well, he
sounds really unsettled.
Speaker 2: This is a quintessential example of high strangeness meeting absolute
military precision. The date is September seventeenth, twenty twenty four.
We are roughly twenty thousand feet in the air, over California.
Speaker 1: Which just for context for everyone listening, is pretty high, up,
very high. You aren't seeing flocks of birds up there.
You definitely aren't seeing the little quad copter drone your
neighbor got for his birthday. That is commercial airliner and
military territory exactly.
Speaker 2: An air force pilot is on a totally routine flight,
nothing special going on. Suddenly he radio is into air
traffic control, and the leaked audio is so fascinating to
listen to because of how calm he's actively trying to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can hear him fighting his own panic.
Speaker 2: He's trying to maintain strict radio protocol while reporting something
literally impossible.
Speaker 1: I have the transcript of that exact audio right here.
He says, and I quote, it's not weird, but I
just have something passed underneath my wing, maybe like a
football sized object right underneath our wing.
Speaker 2: It's not weird, but right that is the sound of
a professional desperately trying to rationalize the irrational in real time.
He's trying to convince himself just as much as he's
trying to convince the control tower.
Speaker 1: He goes on in the audio to describe it as
a dark gray cylindrical object, and it passed ten feet
under the wing, ten feet at twenty thousand feet in
the air.
Speaker 2: It's terrifying.
Speaker 1: That is an insane collision hazard. If that thing hits
the engine or the wing, that plane is going down instantly.
Speaker 2: It's incredibly dangerous. The pilot noted that his sensor operator
in the back was scrambling checking the cameras, trying to
get actual optical eyes on it to figure out what
just buzzed them. Right, But here's the part that totally
defies physics. Less than a minute later, the pilot reports
that something appeared on his onboard radar about sixty miles away.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just pause and do the math here, because
this is where my brain just starts to hurt. Sixty
miles in under.
Speaker 2: A minute, right, if we assume it is the exact
same object and the timing and the unique radar signature
strongly suggested, is that object traveled sixty miles in roughly
sixty seconds. Wow, that translates to three six hundred miles
per hour. That is roughly mock four point seven.
Speaker 1: That is faster than a bullet, that is hypersonic speed.
Speaker 2: It is faster than most conventional military jets in the world,
certainly anything flying at that specific altitude. But here is
the massive glaring problem, the aerodynamic right because of the
shape exactly the pilot explicitly described a football shape, a
blunt cylinder.
Speaker 1: A football is not exactly an aerodynamic marvel. I mean,
if you throw a football at three thousand miles an hour,
what happens to it?
Speaker 2: The drag and the friction would be immense. To move
a completely blunt object like a cylinder through the atmosphere
at mock four point seven requires an insane, almost incalculable
amount of thrust. We were talking about an engine that
would need to be massive just to overcome the air resistance.
Speaker 1: But this thing was literally the size of a football.
Speaker 2: Right. There is absolutely no room inside a football sized
object for fuel. There's no room for an engine capable
of hypersonic thrust.
Speaker 1: And crucially, in all the reports, there was no mention
of a sonic boom.
Speaker 2: Exactly, when any human aircraft breaks the sound barrier, basic
physics dictates a massive shockwave is created. It's incredibly loud.
It can shatter windows on the ground. If you're flying
too low.
Speaker 1: You feel it in your chest.
Speaker 2: But this thing just it was there under the wing
and then it was sixty miles away. It moved without
displacing the air in the way we understand physics demands.
Speaker 1: So it's not flying through the air. Really, it's almost
like it's slipping between the air.
Speaker 2: Molecule or it's actively manipulating the space time around it.
If you can warp the space around the object into
a sort of bubble, you don't create aerodynamic drag, and
you therefore don't create a sonic boom.
Speaker 1: But that is theoretical physics. That is literally star trek
warp drive stuff.
Speaker 2: It is to see an effect like that recorded on
standard military radar is just it's incredibly sobering.
Speaker 1: It implies a technology that is not just you know,
a better jet engine or lighter metal. It's a completely
different understanding of physical reality. Absolutely, And speaking of playing
by different rules, we have to talk about the Yemen
bounce incident because this one, this one feels openly aggressive
to me.
Speaker 2: Aggressive is certainly one word for it. Impervious might be
another way to look at it. This incident occurred on
October thirtieth, twenty twenty four, right off the coast of Yemen.
Speaker 1: And this comes directly from a video release during a
recent house oversight hearing. So again, listeners, this isn't a
fake TikTok hoax. This is from a multi million dollar
US Reaper drone.
Speaker 2: Correct, the drone is doing its job monitoring the area
it spots this rightly glowing orb hovering in the sky. Now,
the context here is crucial. This is an active conflict zone,
so the military rules of engagement are very different than
over California. Shoot first, Basically, the operators on the ground
decide this anomalous object is a potential threat to their assets,
so a hellfire missile is fired directly at the orb.
Speaker 1: Okay, hang on, let's pause on the word bounce for
a second, because when I hear bounce, my brain automatically
goes to a rubber ball hitting a wall. Right, But
we are talking about a hellfire missile. This isn't a
rubber ball. This is a weapon of war.
Speaker 2: Far from a rubber ball. A hell fire is essentially
a heavy supersonic dart specifically designed to punch straight through
heavy tank armor.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Even if the warhead the explosive payload part is a
complete dud and doesn't detonate the sheer kinetic energy of
the impact alone is massive. It's traveling at mock one
point three. It weighs over one hundred pounds.
Speaker 1: So physically in our world, ye, if that missile hits
a solid object mid air, it should shatter or penetrate
the target, or at least crumple upon impact. It should
look like a midair.
Speaker 2: Car crash exactly. It's basic conservation of momentum. All that
forward energy has to go somewhere when it meets resistance.
If it hits a brick wall, the wall brakes or
the missile brakes. But in this unclassified video, the missile
hits the glowing orb and completely deflecs its vector without
slowing down the orb at all.
Speaker 1: It literally bounces off, like skipping a flat pebble on
a quiet pond.
Speaker 2: Blue Elizondo, who is the former Pentagon intelligence officer who
actually ran the a TO program, the government's official UFO program,
he commented extensively on this exact video.
Speaker 1: What did he say?
Speaker 2: He pointed out exactly how bizarre this physics interaction is.
He said, and I quote, there's no you know, bounce.
Missiles don't just glance off things. They impact. They crush
and they explode.
Speaker 1: And what about the ORB? Did it spin out of control?
Did it tumble toward the ocean?
Speaker 2: The ORB kept moving on its exact original trajectory, as
if absolutely nothing happened. It seamlessly maintained.
Speaker 1: Its which implies the ORB has what like infinite masks,
or is it not entirely physical like a ghost or
a hologram.
Speaker 2: Or it's projecting a frictionless energy field, or it's displacing
inertia somehow. It heavily suggests the object isn't just made
of really hard armor. It's actively manipulating the fundamental laws
of motion. If you shoot a lead bullet at a
steel wall, the bullet flattens. If you shoot a hell
fire at this ORB, the missile acts like the ORB
is the immovable center of the universe.
Speaker 1: That is honestly terrifying. Well, I mean, think about the
strategic implications of that. We fired one of our most reliable,
lethal advanced weapons of this thing, and it treated it
like a passing mosquito. It didn't even flinch.
Speaker 2: It suggests a level of material science or energy shielding
technology that is quite literally orders of magnitude ahead of
anything we even have on a drawing board. If an
object can absorb or entirely deflect the kinetic energy of
a supersonic heavy missile without deviating a single inch from
its path, it implies that the object possesses an inertia
or structural integrity that renders it effectively invincible to our
conventional weaponry.
Speaker 1: It really makes you wonder if they can just shrug
off a hell fire missile like it's nothing, what else
can they shrug off a nuke? And more importantly, are
we just poking a bear with a stick.
Speaker 2: That is the ultimate strategic concern within the intelligence community
right now. If these orbs are just automated drones or
probes and we are shooting at them and our very
best shots are completely ineffective, what kind of data does
that signal back to the intelligence that built the probe?
Speaker 1: It tells them that we are inherently hostile but entirely harmless,
which is a really, really dangerous combination for us.
Speaker 2: Precisely it puts humanity in a very vulnerable inferior position.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, so that orb was relatively small, like drone sized,
but we also have detailed reports of things that are
absolutely massive, and this brings us to the triangle mystery
section of the data. I want to talk about Dylan Borland.
Speaker 2: Yes, Dylan Berlin. Now this is a retroactive report. It
happened in the past, but it only fully surfaced and
was verified during these recent twenty twenty five congressional hearings.
Dylan Borland is a very credible Air Force veteran. His
account dates back to twenty twelve and it happened while
he was stationed at Langley Air Force Base.
Speaker 1: Langley, Okay. That is not a small, quiet, middle of
nowhere base. That is a major, highly secure hub.
Speaker 2: It is one of the most important installations we have.
Borland described standing outside and looking up to see a
massive triangular craft hovering. He estimates it was at least
one hundred feet wide.
Speaker 1: One hundred feet that's a solid third of a football field.
That's essentially a medium sized office building just flying in
the air.
Speaker 2: And it lifted off the ground completely silently. No jet
engine roar, no helicopter rotor wash shaking the trees, just
a silent anti gravity lift.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: But the detail that really stands out to me in
his testimony, and this perfectly connects to some very specific
emerging theories in UAP research. Is his description of the
craft's surface.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this part gave me absolute goosebumps. Reading the brief,
He said the surface of the triangle didn't look like
rigid metal plates riveted together. He said, it looked fluid,
like it was constantly shifting, like it was alive.
Speaker 2: Biomachinery. That is a specific term that constantly comes up
in these deeper classified discussions, biomachinery. We are so used
to technology being totally static. Metal is metal, Plastic is plastic.
A Boeing seven four seven doesn't ripple and shift its
skin while.
Speaker 1: It flies unless it's actively crashing, right exactly.
Speaker 2: But Borland describe a dark metallic black color that seemed
to be in constant fluid motion, even while the triangular
craft perfectly maintained its geometric shape. So wild it's almost
like the surface was a liquid metal held perfectly in
place by a strong magnetic field.
Speaker 1: And he mentioned a glow around it too, Right he did.
Speaker 2: He described a faint golden glow or like a swirling
plasma energy around the top edge of the craft. And notably,
he experienced immediate technical interference pearance. His cell phone signal
completely scrambled and died when he got too close to
the flight path.
Speaker 1: That electromagnetic interference is such a classic signature. We hear
that all the time in historical cases, cars stalling out
on country rows, radios dying in the nineteen sixties. But
the alive surface that completely changes the paradigm.
Speaker 2: It really does.
Speaker 1: It makes me think we aren't just looking at a
ship in the way we think of an aluminum ship
holding little pilots. We might be looking at an entity itself,
or a machine that organically grows instead of being assembled.
Speaker 2: It profoundly challenges our rigid dichotomy between biology and technology.
If a civilization is sufficiently advanced, say a million years
older than us, their machines might not be built in
smoky factories. They might literally be grown in vats, or
the material might be programmable manner nanobots that react and
adapt to their environment in real time. Borland's testimony adds
this intense layer of strangeness that moves the conversation way
beyond just fast secret aircraft and into totally incomprehensible technology.
Speaker 1: It's the uncanny Valley of engineering, and it looks sort
of like a machine, but it acts like a living animal.
It's just disturbing on a very primal, instinctual level.
Speaker 2: That is a very apt analogy. It triggers a deep
wrongness in the human brain because it defies all our
evolutionary categories.
Speaker 1: So we have the physics defying hypersonic football, the totally
invincible orb and the living triangle. But all of those
were relatively isolated incidents. One pilot, one drone operator, one veteran.
What happened in late twenty twenty four on the East Coast.
That was a mass event. Yeah, that wasn't just one
guy in a field at midnight.
Speaker 2: The great East Coast drone swarm. This is the exact
moment where the phenomenon became totally undeniable for thousands of
regular people.
Speaker 1: It started in New Jersey right mid November, correct.
Speaker 2: It began over New Jersey, and then it just spread
up and down the coast like a contagion. Reports flooded
the emergency lines from New York, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Maryland. We
aren't talking about a dozen confused people looking at venus. No,
we are talking about over five thousand reported documented sightings.
Speaker 1: Five thousand. That is a small towns worth of witnesses,
that's a minor league baseball stadium entirely full of people
pointing at the sky.
Speaker 2: The response was massive, local police, the FBI, the Department
of Homeland Security, the FAA, the Department of Defense. Literally
everyone was involved. Everyone was looking up totally.
Speaker 1: Helpless and what were they actually seeing because the initial
news reports just said drones, And I vividly remember the
morning news anchor saying, Oh, it's just a local drone
hobbyist club gone wrong. Mystery solved. But regular battery power
drones don't do what these things did.
Speaker 2: That's the key distinction, and it's why the DoD got involved.
Witnesses described impossible precision. These objects would be moving fast
and then stop completely dead in mid.
Speaker 1: Air, without drift, zero drift.
Speaker 2: They would change direction instantly at sharp angles, without the
banking or deceleration curves you see with any human airplanes
or even agile quad copters. Right one specific witness described
a triangle of three distinct lights that would spin in
a perfect rigid formation and then suddenly vanish, as if
they quote dropped off the face.
Speaker 1: Of the sky, dropped off the face of the sky.
That's poetic and completely terrifying. It implies they didn't just
fly away really fast into the clouds, they just left
our reality.
Speaker 2: It absolutely implies instantaneous de materialization, or perhaps an acceleration
so unimaginably fast that the human eye simply can't track
the movement. They're just gone.
Speaker 1: But why the East Coast? Why there? Why?
Speaker 2: Then, well, think about it strategically. If you want to
be seen, you go exactly where the people are. The
Northeast corridor is the most densely populated, heavily trafficked region
in the United States. If this was a display, a
deliberate demonstration of capability by whatever is controlling these things,
it was intentionally staged in the main theater, it feels like.
Speaker 1: A test to me, or honestly a taunt, like they're saying,
we are here, we are operating in your airspace, we
are watching you, and there's absolutely no thing your police
or your FBI, or your fighter jets can do to
stop us.
Speaker 2: It certainly demonstrated total impunity, despite the active involvement of
every major three letter government agency. There were zero interceptions reported,
no jets got close, no explanations were ever officially offered
to the public. Just thousands of people watching these lights
dance over their heads with absolute, unmatched superiority.
Speaker 1: It's the sheer scale of the psychological impact that gets me.
If five thousand people all saw a ghost on the
same night, we'd have to completely rewrite our understanding of
religion in the afterlife exactly. But five thousand people see
this impossible alien tech and we just we just wake
up and keep going to work the next day.
Speaker 2: That is the psychological normalization we spoke about earlier with
the AARO data. The human brain is incredibly good at
compartmentalizing trauma or the inexplicable. I saw the lights. They
broke the laws of physics. Okay, well, I still have
to pay the electric bill on Tuesday. We just accept
the anomaly because we literally have no existing mental box
to put it in.
Speaker 1: Well, talking about boxes, let's talk about the specific shape
that showed up in early twenty twenty five, because if
the fluid triangle was weird, this is just next level.
The Porterville octahedra.
Speaker 2: Ah Yes April fourth, twenty twenty five, Porterville, California. This
specific case is fascinating to researchers because of the extreme
specificity of the shape and the bizarre details observed by
the witnesses.
Speaker 1: So it's nine pm. There were two credible witnesses parked
near Granite High School. They look up and see an object.
But it's not a classic flying saucer. It's not a cigar.
It's an octahedron, a perfect.
Speaker 2: Eight sided double pyramid. Imagine two ancient pyramids glued together
at their square bases, floating point to point.
Speaker 1: For the nerds out there, it's exactly like a giant
D eight die from Dungeons and Dragons, just floating menacingly
in the sky.
Speaker 2: That's actually a perfect visual, giant, metallic floating D eight.
And it was incredibly large. The witnesses estimated it was
roughly the size of a standard UPS delivery truck.
Speaker 1: And it was moving slowly right like. It wasn't zooming
round at mock four.
Speaker 2: Oh, it was just cruising at about thirty to thirty
five miles per hour, very deliberate. It was moving parallel
to their parked car, and it was completely utterly silent,
no engine noise, no anti gravity hum, nothing.
Speaker 1: But here's the detail that completely blew my mind when
I read the report, And honestly, this is where my
own brain starts to push back and get skeptical. The
witnesses claimed they saw distinct markings on the metallic surface.
Speaker 2: Yes they did. They described the markings clearly as looking
like ancient hieroglyphics.
Speaker 1: Okay, see, you had me at floating geometric shapes, but
you kind of lose me at hieroglyphicsse that just sounds well.
Speaker 2: That sounds like a bad movie prop from stargate. Why
would an unimaginably advanced interstellar craft have ancient Egyptian graffiti
painted on the side. That feels way too human? It
does sound completely absurd at first glance, doesn't it. It
is the absolute pinnacle of the high strangeness aspect of
the phenomenon. But here is the counter argument that researchers make.
If you are an ancient non human intelligence trying to
communicate with a civilization that you have secretly watched for
thousands of years, do you use complex binary code that
only machines read, or do you use the very first
symbols they used when they originally started writing?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, So you think it's like a custom user
interface or just a label like an alien version of
this side up, or.
Speaker 2: It's a form of psychological mimicry or and this is
the deeper theory, perhaps there is a literal historical connection
between this specific phenomenon and what our ancient cultures actually
saw and recorded as gods or magic. Wait, so you're saying,
maybe the ancient Egyptians didn't just invent hieroglyphics out of nowhere.
Maybe they painstakingly copied the symbols they saw on the
sides of the vehicles that came down from the sky.
Speaker 1: That is a rabbit hole. I am so ready to
jump down, but it still just feels, I don't know,
a little too convenient. But Newfork actually investigated this specific claim.
Speaker 2: They absolutely did. They interviewed the witnesses separately, and they
classified both witnesses as entirely sincere. The investigators believe these
people so something that genuinely deeply baffled them. They didn't
just invent a story about alien writing to sound cool
on a podcast. They reported it because the sheer absurdity
of it didn't make sense to them either.
Speaker 1: That's a great point. If you're lying, you make up
a believable lie. The hieroglyphics detail, m hm, it really
sticks with me. It makes the object feel way less
like a functional machine and much more like a religious artifact.
Speaker 2: It heavily complicates the simple extraterrestrial hypothesis. If they are
just scientists from another star system charting the galaxy, why
use symbols that closely resemble ancient Earth writing. It strongly
implies a deep historical connection to us, a shared.
Speaker 1: History, or maybe we got all our writing from them
in the first place.
Speaker 2: That is the ancient astronaut theory in a nutshell.
Speaker 1: Okay, moving on from the ancient symbols to something completely transformative.
The New York shape shifters incident March fifth, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: This one is wild. It was just a guy out
walking his dog at night, a very mundane, quiet suburban
setting for a very high strangeness event.
Speaker 1: He looks up and sees two fast white orbs, which
you know, standard UAP stuff. So far, we've heard that
a million times.
Speaker 2: But then they switch. They physically transform from bright white
glowing orbs into solid, dark oval shapes, and then they instantly.
Speaker 1: Vanish, just in the blink of an eye.
Speaker 2: Yes, this suggests that the light we constantly see in
these reports might just be a physical byproduct of their
propulsion system. Or maybe it's an active camouflage mechanism. When
they decide to switch modes, the exhaust light goes out,
the true dark shape changes or is finally revealed, and
they depart.
Speaker 1: So it's active camouflage, like a high tech chameleon, or
like a cuttlefish changing its skin texture.
Speaker 2: Or even a phase shift into a different spectrum. If
they are actively manipulating the light and gravity around them,
what your human eye sees isn't necessarily what is physically there.
You are just seeing the optical illusion they want you
to see, or the energy distortion field they're creating.
Speaker 1: And we had a commercial flight sighting too, right right
around the same time in March. Yes, we did.
Speaker 2: A passenger looking out the window on routine commercial flight
reported seeing a perfectly round, highly polished metallic ball moving
directly below the plane, below the plane below it, and
then it casually dipped into the cloud, bang and disappeared again.
This is an object operating in a highly controlled commercial airspace,
extremely close to civilian traffic, with total absolute disregard for
our rules of the road.
Speaker 1: It's arrogant. That is exactly how it feels to me.
They are just zipping around our commercial planes like we
are completely standing still, or.
Speaker 2: Perhaps they're just indifferent. We might literally be to them
what ants are to us. Ouch. I mean, we don't
actively hate the ants we step over in the park,
but we certainly don't ask for their diplomatic permission to
walk on the grass.
Speaker 1: We just walk. That is a deeply humbling thought. We
strut around thinking we're the apex predators of the universe
and they treat us like mild background noise. But speaking
of ants in the park, let's talk about what happens
when the phenomenon decides to come down into your own
own personal backyard. Literally the Michigan encounter.
Speaker 2: This is a crucial case from September and October of
twenty twenty five northern Michigan. This wasn't a hey, look
at that weird dot way up in the sky situation.
This was incredibly intimate.
Speaker 1: A married couple had glowing orbs in their yards.
Speaker 2: At eye level, floating right outside their house windows.
Speaker 1: That is utterly terrifying to me. Look if I look
out my kitchen window and I see a glowing alien
orb hovering over my weber barbecue grill, I am packing
my bags, I am selling the house the next morning.
Speaker 2: It certainly completely violates the psychological sanctuary of the home.
They described the objects as being roughly basketball sized, solid
white with faint hints of orange glowing inside, and again
completely silent.
Speaker 1: And they weren't just passing through like a shooting star.
They hung around the property.
Speaker 2: Over the course of several nights. Sometimes they were just
lazily drifting around the trees. Sometimes they would shoot straight
up into the atmosphere. One specific night, the bubble saw
three of these glowing orbs moving perfectly together in a
triangle formation before shooting straight up and vanishing.
Speaker 1: And the couple kept a detailed log.
Speaker 2: They took photos, they did they documented everything. They submitted
the logs and the photos to Newfork. They approached this
whole terrifying ordeal very methodically.
Speaker 1: Well, what does it actually mean when it gets this close?
I mean, the California football was twenty thousand feet up
in the air, the East Coast drones were high up
in the night sky. But this, this is invading personal
human space.
Speaker 2: It entirely shifts the narrative from distant observation to active interaction.
When an anomalous object enters your immediate environment. Literally at
eye level. It is not just observing the planet as
a whole anymore, It is specifically watching you. It suggests
a level of directed curiosity or surveillance that is much
more granular and targeted.
Speaker 1: It really feels like they are tightening the net or
just getting much bolder because they know we can't stop them.
Speaker 2: Or perhaps they are looking for something very specific in
our environment, human biology, a specific energy signature, human consciousness itself.
We honestly don't know.
Speaker 1: So we have all these wild anecdotal reports. We have
regular civilians, commercial pilots, trained military veterans. But what does
the government actually say about all this right now? Because
usually the government just says, you know, swamp gas or
weather balloons, or you all need to get your eyes checked.
Speaker 2: That brings us directly to the recent AIRO report. The
All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, the.
Speaker 1: Official Pentagon UFO hunters the guys whose entire job it
is to explain this stuff away so we don't panic, correct.
Speaker 2: They released a comprehensive report covering incidents from May twenty
twenty three to June twenty twenty four. They officially recorded
seven hundred and fifty seven separate UAP.
Speaker 1: Sighting seven hundred and fifty seven. That is not a
small number for an official, sanitized government tally. That's not
a handful of crazies in the desert.
Speaker 2: No, it's a massive data set. And while they did
managed to resolve many of them, birds, stray weather balloons,
and Elon Musk's Starlink satellites are very common culprits. There
is a stubborn, significant percentage of cases that remain completely unsolved.
Speaker 1: But there is one very specific stat in that dense
report that just jumped right off the page at me
the edge of space sightingsh.
Speaker 2: Yes, the official report notes that forty nine of these
unexplained sightings occurred at exactly roughly sixty two miles in
altitude that is known as the Karmen line, the literal
internationally recognized boundary.
Speaker 1: Of space sixty two miles up the Karman line. Why
is that specific exact altitude such a huge red flag?
Why can't the military just fly a you tube spy
plane up there and take a look.
Speaker 2: Think of our atmosphere exactly like an ocean down here
on the ground, the air is thick like water. It's
very easy to swim in, easy for a jet's wings
to fly in way up in orbit, it's a total vacuum.
You just coast weightlessly. But the Karman line is the transition.
It's the physical death zone in between.
Speaker 1: Too thin to swim, too thick to coast.
Speaker 2: Exactly perfectly stated. There is not enough air density for
airplane wings to generate lyft, so a plane just falls
out of the sky. But there is too much air
friction for a satellite to orbit, so the drag just
burns it up like a meteor. To stay there, hovering
perfectly still at sixty two miles requires a propulsion system
we simply do not possess. Wow, you have to fight
Earth's gravity constantly brute force, without using aerodynamics or orbit.
Speaker 1: It is the absolute perfect vantage point for a spy
high enough to see the whole hemisphere, low enough to
drop in on us whenever they want.
Speaker 2: And the government's official stance on this they are finally
admitting total defeat on some of these specific cases. One
high ranking official was quoted in our source documents saying,
and I quote, I do not understand, and I don't
know anybody else who understands them.
Speaker 1: I do not understand. You do not hear that phrase
out of the Pentagon very often.
Speaker 2: It is a totally stunning admission of ignorance from the
most heavily funded military on Earth. They are flatly saying,
we see it on our million dollar radars, we track
its movements, we don't know what it is, and we
don't have a clue how its physics work.
Speaker 1: It really feels like that I don't know is the
single most honest thing they have said to the public
in seventy years.
Speaker 2: It is and incredibly validates what all these civilian and
military witnesses are seeing. When the government itself says we
can't explain it either, it permanently moves the cultural conversation
from is this person crazy? To what exactly are we
dealing with?
Speaker 1: So let's try to put this whole massive picture together
for everyone listening. We have a former president saying aliens
are real, with some caveats. We have a massive, record
breaking surge in civilian sightings in twenty twenty five. Yes,
we have physics defying tech missiles bouncing off orbs mock
five footballs. We have ancient Egyptian symbols on floating geometric pyramids,
and we have massive coordinated drones swarming our biggest, most
populated cities.
Speaker 2: We have the hard data, the military encounters where multi
sensor arrays and weapons confirm physical, objective reality. We have
the mass data, the sheer volume of thousands of witnesses
on the East Coast. And we have the weird data,
the fluid, living metal, the hieroglyphics, the intimate backyard orbs.
Speaker 1: It completely feels like a puzzle where none of the
pieces actually fit the picture printed on the box, or.
Speaker 2: Perhaps the picture on the box was just completely wrong
all along. We have spent decades looking for metal ships
or hostile invaders, just like in the sci fi movies.
But what we are actually seeing is something vastly more nuanced,
much more complex and alien.
Speaker 1: It is no longer a question about if they are real.
Obama hinted at that, but the radar data literally proves
that something is real. The real question is what are
they actively doing here?
Speaker 2: The frequency of their visits is increasing rapidly, their boldness
is increasing. They are coming much lower into our atmosphere,
they are staying much longer, and they are completely ignoring
our most advanced weapons.
Speaker 1: That is the clear pattern escalation, not necessarily a hostile attack,
but a massive press. They are absolutely making sure we see.
Speaker 2: Them now, and we are definitely seeing them. But are
we actually reacting? As you pointed out earlier, the massive
East coast swarm didn't claus mass riots or panic. The
missile bouncing off the orb didn't start a global war.
Speaker 1: Have we just accepted it? Have we already seamlessly moved
into the post disclosure world without ever having an official
press conference on the White House lawn?
Speaker 2: We very well might have. We might be sitting in
a state of soft disclosure right now where the harsh
reality is being presented to us in tiny digestible pieces
a podcast quote here, a leaked Navy video there. Until
we just subconsciously accept that we share this planet with
something vastly superior, it neatly prevents the global panic of
a sudden, undeniable announcement.
Speaker 1: There's a totally wild thought. We are all sitting around
waiting for the President to stand at the podium and
announce it. But maybe the announcements already happening around us,
just one sighting at a time. It's exactly like boiling
a frog slowly.
Speaker 2: It's a very distinct, very real possibility. Just getting used
to the rising temperature of reality.
Speaker 1: So here's my final thought for you listening at home
or in your car right now. If a missile physically
bouncing off a drone didn't start a war and five
thousand people reporting UFOs in New Jersey didn't cause a panic,
have we already accepted a totally new reality without even
realizing it.
Speaker 2: It is fundamentally a question of psychological threshold. What exactly
does it take to finally break your worldview?
Speaker 1: Exactly? So I want to ask you directly, if you
looked out your window and saw that giant octahedron with
the hieroglyphics hovering in your backyard tonight, yeah, right over
your fence, what would you do? Would you actually report it?
Would you call the local police, or would you keep
it entirely to yourself just to avoid the social stigma.
Speaker 2: What is your personal line in the sand for finally believing?
Speaker 1: Let us know? Seriously, drop a comic below, tell us
your story if you have one, because these threads are
rapidly unraveling and we need absolutely everyone's help to see
what the whole sweater looks like underneath.
Speaker 2: Keep your eyes open and keep looking up.
Speaker 1: This has been thrilling threads. Thank you so much for
joining us on this deep dive. We'll see you on
the next one.