1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,399 Speaker 1: Aliens are real, but I haven't seen them. 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is. That's a sentence that just completely stops 3 00:00:05,919 --> 00:00:07,839 you cold, isn't it. It just hangs there in the air. 4 00:00:08,199 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: It really does. It absolutely does. And let's just be 5 00:00:11,199 --> 00:00:13,800 super clear right out of the gate here. That quote 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,079 that isn't from some random guy on a message board. 7 00:00:18,839 --> 00:00:21,079 That isn't a sci fi writer trying to sell a 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:25,079 new book. That is a direct on the record quote 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,920 from former President Barack Obama. 10 00:00:27,079 --> 00:00:28,879 Speaker 2: It is he said it on the No Lie with 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,519 Brian Tyler Cone Show. And I mean, obviously we need 12 00:00:31,559 --> 00:00:34,079 to be very precise about the context here, because well, 13 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:36,079 context is literally everything. 14 00:00:35,679 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: In this field, right exactly. 15 00:00:37,079 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: But the simple fact that those specific words came out 16 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,039 of the mouth of a former commander in chief that 17 00:00:43,119 --> 00:00:45,840 marks a very specific moment in history. 18 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: It really feels like the ground is shifting under our feet. 19 00:00:49,079 --> 00:00:51,560 I mean, welcome to thrilling threads everyone. I am so 20 00:00:51,759 --> 00:00:54,320 ready to pull at this loose thread today until the 21 00:00:54,479 --> 00:00:57,560 entire sweater of our reality just completely unravels. 22 00:00:57,679 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: I brought my own yarn to pool, so we are 23 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:00,000 ready awesome. 24 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,719 Speaker 1: Because today isn't just about scooky lights in the sky 25 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,840 or those grainy photos from the nineteen fifties that just 26 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:09,799 looked like hubcaps thrown in the air. 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the classic pie pans on a string. 28 00:01:12,359 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: Exactly. Today, we are looking at a fundamental shift in 29 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,359 the narrative. We are diving into a stack of reports 30 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:22,840 here that are, frankly, they're startling. 31 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,519 Speaker 2: They really are. We're looking at military leaks, official congressional hearings, 32 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,680 massive civilian databases, and just this huge surge of activity 33 00:01:32,079 --> 00:01:35,480 recorded from late twenty twenty four straight through twenty twenty five. 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: And when we say activity, let's be super clear for 35 00:01:38,439 --> 00:01:41,159 you listening. We aren't talking about a blurry dot on 36 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:42,879 the horizon that might be a weather balloon. 37 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,079 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 38 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: We are talking about military missiles physically bouncing off glowing orbs. 39 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,719 We're talking about drone swarms descending on the East coast 40 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,760 like something out of a disaster movie. We're talking about 41 00:01:53,879 --> 00:01:58,560 hieroglyphics like actual ancient looking symbols on floating pyramids. 42 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,239 Speaker 2: I know it sounds exact act like science fiction, like 43 00:02:01,239 --> 00:02:04,480 a Hollywood screenplay, it really does. Yeah, But the sources 44 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,599 we are unpacking today, we're talking the National UFO Reporting Center, data, 45 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,960 leaked military audio, the official AARO reports. They treat this 46 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,240 as hard, verifiable data. Our mission today is to look 47 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,439 at the patterns in that data and ask what it 48 00:02:19,479 --> 00:02:20,479 all actually means. 49 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,879 Speaker 1: I have to admit I'm walking into this with a 50 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,599 mix of excitement and just total confusion, Like I am 51 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,240 ready to believe, but some of this stuff it pushes 52 00:02:29,319 --> 00:02:32,759 the absolute limit of what my brain wants to accept. 53 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: And that's honestly the healthiest approach you can have. My 54 00:02:35,439 --> 00:02:37,240 role here is to kind of be the tether. I 55 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,400 want to look at the why and the how behind 56 00:02:39,439 --> 00:02:40,080 this surge. 57 00:02:40,159 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: Good, keep me grounded. 58 00:02:41,479 --> 00:02:44,479 Speaker 2: I'll try, because something is definitely happening, and the numbers 59 00:02:44,599 --> 00:02:46,840 absolutely back it up. We aren't just sitting around telling 60 00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:50,000 ghost stories. We are analyzing a massive data set. 61 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So let's unpack that Obama moment first, ye, because 62 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,719 for me, that was the signal flare. It felt like, 63 00:02:56,759 --> 00:02:58,800 I don't know, it felt like permission to finally take 64 00:02:58,800 --> 00:02:59,520 this seriously. 65 00:02:59,719 --> 00:03:02,039 Speaker 2: It was certainly a catalyst. So let's just set the 66 00:03:02,039 --> 00:03:06,319 scene properly for everyone. Obama is doing this political interview 67 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,840 with Brian Tyler Cohen. It's a standard format. They're talking politics, policy, 68 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,960 the usual fair right, but then Colin moves into this 69 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,639 quick Q and a segment toward the end and just 70 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,879 ask some point blank are aliens real? 71 00:03:20,479 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: And Obama who is? You know? Famously plays it cool. 72 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,599 He's a no drama Obama guy. He doesn't dodge it. 73 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,599 He doesn't make a joke about the men in black 74 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,639 showing up at his door or weather balloons. 75 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:32,439 Speaker 2: No, he doesn't. 76 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,759 Speaker 1: He just looks and says they're real, but I haven't 77 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:35,400 seen them. 78 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,159 Speaker 2: Right now, we do have to be responsible here. Within 79 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:41,680 hours of that interview, dropping that clip was absolutely everywhere. 80 00:03:41,719 --> 00:03:43,080 The internet just exploded. 81 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was all over my feet. 82 00:03:44,479 --> 00:03:48,199 Speaker 2: But Obama did clarify his statement immediately after that SoundBite. 83 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,960 He explained that he was referring to the what he 84 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,599 called the cosmic probability of life existing elsewhere just because 85 00:03:54,599 --> 00:03:56,280 of the sheer vastness of the universe. 86 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,319 Speaker 1: Sure, the numbers game argument, there are billions of galaxies, 87 00:03:59,319 --> 00:04:02,639 trillions of stars. Statistically, we can't possibly be the only 88 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,400 ones of the party exactly. 89 00:04:04,479 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: And he also made it explicitly clear that during his 90 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,039 presidency he saw zero evidence that extraterrestrials have actually made 91 00:04:11,039 --> 00:04:14,680 contact with us. Right, He never claimed they visited Earth, 92 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,040 or that he had a secret meeting with them in 93 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:17,920 the Lincoln bedroom. 94 00:04:18,519 --> 00:04:21,439 Speaker 1: But and here's where it gets really interesting to me. Anyway, 95 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,560 he admitted that when he first became president, his very 96 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,920 first question when he got into the Oval office was 97 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,199 where are the aliens? 98 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,759 Speaker 2: It really humanizes the curiosity, doesn't that. 99 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,879 Speaker 1: It totally does. Even the most powerful person on the planet, 100 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:38,240 the guy with the literal nuclear codes, just wants to 101 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,720 know if we're alone in the universe. It shows that 102 00:04:40,759 --> 00:04:43,879 the curiosity is just a universal human trait. 103 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,519 Speaker 2: Exactly. But even with his clarification about probability, the tone 104 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,480 has undeniably changed. Think about it. Presidents didn't used to 105 00:04:52,519 --> 00:04:56,480 say aliens are real out loud, even in a theoretical 106 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:57,519 cosmic sense. 107 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: No way. It used to be the third rail of politics, exactly. 108 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: You touch it, you look crazy, You look like you're 109 00:05:02,959 --> 00:05:05,199 distracted from the economy or national security. 110 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: Right your opponents would just tear you apart for talking 111 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,519 about little green men. 112 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: That is the key shift we're seeing. It's the window 113 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,399 of acceptable discourse opening up. A former president is openly 114 00:05:16,399 --> 00:05:19,319 stating that life beyond Earth is real. That is a 115 00:05:19,399 --> 00:05:22,600 level of transparency, or at least a willingness to engage 116 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:25,759 with the topic seriously that we haven't never really seen before. 117 00:05:26,079 --> 00:05:28,639 It legitimizes the conversation for everyone else. 118 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,639 Speaker 1: And I feel like that openness from the top is 119 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,160 absolutely trickling down to the public because the year twenty 120 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,279 twenty five, it wasn't just a normal year for UFOs. 121 00:05:38,319 --> 00:05:39,959 It was a massive banner year. 122 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: The data supports that entirely. We're looking at a report 123 00:05:42,879 --> 00:05:45,160 right now from the National UFO Reporting Center, and. 124 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,439 Speaker 1: UFO keep been around forever. 125 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: Right decades. They've been collecting civilian sightings for decades. This 126 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,079 isn't just some flash in the pan website built yesterday. 127 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,680 This is a rigorous database that serious researchers rely on. 128 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,399 And in the first half of twenty twenty five alone, 129 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,000 there were two two and seventy four claimed sightings. 130 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: Let me just repeat that, twy one hundred and seventy 131 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,120 four in six months. That is roughly twelve sightings a day, 132 00:06:10,519 --> 00:06:13,680 every single day, twelve different people or groups are seeing 133 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:14,800 something they can't explain. 134 00:06:15,079 --> 00:06:17,879 Speaker 2: And that is a massive spite compared to the exact 135 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,600 same period in twenty twenty four. 136 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,079 Speaker 1: So what does that actually mean is the fleet arriving 137 00:06:22,519 --> 00:06:24,319 or are people just looking up at the sky more 138 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,560 because Obama said aliens are real. 139 00:06:26,639 --> 00:06:30,199 Speaker 2: That's the million dollar question, isn't it. The source material 140 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,959 we have notes that the topic has become more mainstream 141 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,040 than ever before. There is way more talk in the 142 00:06:36,079 --> 00:06:41,439 regular media about UAP's unidentified anomaloust phenomena. So a huge 143 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,399 part of this could just be a reduction in the 144 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:44,360 cultural stigma. 145 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: Right like ten years ago, if you saw a weird 146 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,079 light do a zigzag in the sky, you told your spouse, 147 00:06:51,199 --> 00:06:53,199 maybe your best friend after a couple of drinks, but 148 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,639 you definitely didn't file an official government report. 149 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,959 Speaker 2: You didn't want to be the crazy UFO guy exactly. 150 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: You didn't want to lose your security clearance at work 151 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,319 or ruin your reputation in the neighborhood. 152 00:07:02,439 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: Precisely. Now people are actually willing to speak up. They're 153 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,519 submitting formal reports with dates, times, and coordinates. But we 154 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,480 also have to look at what they are actually seeing. 155 00:07:11,879 --> 00:07:14,439 The descriptions aren't just generic lights in the sky. 156 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: Anymore, right, It's getting super specific. 157 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: We are getting very specific taxonomies. People are reporting clear triangles, 158 00:07:20,759 --> 00:07:25,879 metallic discs, glowing orbs, and these massive cigar shaped objects. 159 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: It's the variety that really gets me. If it was 160 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,319 just one type of craft over and over, you could 161 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:33,759 easily just say, oh, that's a secret military project. That's 162 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,399 just the new stealth bomber they're testing in the desert. Yeah. 163 00:07:36,519 --> 00:07:39,040 But we are seeing a whole zoo of different. 164 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,439 Speaker 2: Shapes, and that variety suggests extreme complexity. It suggests that 165 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,920 whatever is happening, it isn't just a singular, isolated event. 166 00:07:47,399 --> 00:07:51,079 It's a phenomenon with multiple different facets or maybe even 167 00:07:51,199 --> 00:07:55,240 multiple origins. And it's not just civilians in their backyards 168 00:07:55,279 --> 00:07:58,800 reporting this stuff anymore. The most compelling data, the stuff 169 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,480 that really completely he defies explanation, is coming straight from 170 00:08:02,519 --> 00:08:03,120 the military. 171 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: This is the stuff that genuinely keeps me up at night. 172 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:08,920 Let's talk about the California football incident. Because this isn't 173 00:08:08,959 --> 00:08:11,920 a blurry iPhone photo. This is an actual audio recording 174 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,639 from a highly trained military pilot who sounds well, he 175 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:17,839 sounds really unsettled. 176 00:08:17,959 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: This is a quintessential example of high strangeness meeting absolute 177 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,480 military precision. The date is September seventeenth, twenty twenty four. 178 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,800 We are roughly twenty thousand feet in the air, over California. 179 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: Which just for context for everyone listening, is pretty high, up, 180 00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:36,639 very high. You aren't seeing flocks of birds up there. 181 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,120 You definitely aren't seeing the little quad copter drone your 182 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,559 neighbor got for his birthday. That is commercial airliner and 183 00:08:43,639 --> 00:08:45,279 military territory exactly. 184 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,279 Speaker 2: An air force pilot is on a totally routine flight, 185 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:52,320 nothing special going on. Suddenly he radio is into air 186 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,879 traffic control, and the leaked audio is so fascinating to 187 00:08:55,879 --> 00:08:58,960 listen to because of how calm he's actively trying to be. 188 00:08:59,159 --> 00:09:01,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can hear him fighting his own panic. 189 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,759 Speaker 2: He's trying to maintain strict radio protocol while reporting something 190 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,039 literally impossible. 191 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: I have the transcript of that exact audio right here. 192 00:09:09,159 --> 00:09:12,000 He says, and I quote, it's not weird, but I 193 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,559 just have something passed underneath my wing, maybe like a 194 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,600 football sized object right underneath our wing. 195 00:09:16,759 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: It's not weird, but right that is the sound of 196 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,840 a professional desperately trying to rationalize the irrational in real time. 197 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,960 He's trying to convince himself just as much as he's 198 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,600 trying to convince the control tower. 199 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: He goes on in the audio to describe it as 200 00:09:31,279 --> 00:09:36,120 a dark gray cylindrical object, and it passed ten feet 201 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,480 under the wing, ten feet at twenty thousand feet in 202 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:39,799 the air. 203 00:09:39,919 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: It's terrifying. 204 00:09:40,799 --> 00:09:43,759 Speaker 1: That is an insane collision hazard. If that thing hits 205 00:09:43,799 --> 00:09:47,000 the engine or the wing, that plane is going down instantly. 206 00:09:47,159 --> 00:09:50,639 Speaker 2: It's incredibly dangerous. The pilot noted that his sensor operator 207 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,120 in the back was scrambling checking the cameras, trying to 208 00:09:53,159 --> 00:09:55,320 get actual optical eyes on it to figure out what 209 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,440 just buzzed them. Right, But here's the part that totally 210 00:09:58,519 --> 00:10:02,320 defies physics. Less than a minute later, the pilot reports 211 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,799 that something appeared on his onboard radar about sixty miles away. 212 00:10:06,039 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: Okay, let's just pause and do the math here, because 213 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,320 this is where my brain just starts to hurt. Sixty 214 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,279 miles in under. 215 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,639 Speaker 2: A minute, right, if we assume it is the exact 216 00:10:13,639 --> 00:10:17,200 same object and the timing and the unique radar signature 217 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,799 strongly suggested, is that object traveled sixty miles in roughly 218 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,600 sixty seconds. Wow, that translates to three six hundred miles 219 00:10:25,639 --> 00:10:28,679 per hour. That is roughly mock four point seven. 220 00:10:28,799 --> 00:10:31,399 Speaker 1: That is faster than a bullet, that is hypersonic speed. 221 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,039 Speaker 2: It is faster than most conventional military jets in the world, 222 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,720 certainly anything flying at that specific altitude. But here is 223 00:10:38,799 --> 00:10:43,480 the massive glaring problem, the aerodynamic right because of the 224 00:10:43,519 --> 00:10:48,519 shape exactly the pilot explicitly described a football shape, a 225 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:49,600 blunt cylinder. 226 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,879 Speaker 1: A football is not exactly an aerodynamic marvel. I mean, 227 00:10:52,879 --> 00:10:54,759 if you throw a football at three thousand miles an hour, 228 00:10:54,879 --> 00:10:55,639 what happens to it? 229 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,279 Speaker 2: The drag and the friction would be immense. To move 230 00:10:58,519 --> 00:11:01,600 a completely blunt object like a cylinder through the atmosphere 231 00:11:01,639 --> 00:11:05,480 at mock four point seven requires an insane, almost incalculable 232 00:11:05,519 --> 00:11:08,519 amount of thrust. We were talking about an engine that 233 00:11:08,519 --> 00:11:11,879 would need to be massive just to overcome the air resistance. 234 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,799 Speaker 1: But this thing was literally the size of a football. 235 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,399 Speaker 2: Right. There is absolutely no room inside a football sized 236 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,919 object for fuel. There's no room for an engine capable 237 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,279 of hypersonic thrust. 238 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: And crucially, in all the reports, there was no mention 239 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:27,720 of a sonic boom. 240 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: Exactly, when any human aircraft breaks the sound barrier, basic 241 00:11:32,759 --> 00:11:37,159 physics dictates a massive shockwave is created. It's incredibly loud. 242 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:39,559 It can shatter windows on the ground. If you're flying 243 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:40,360 too low. 244 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:41,519 Speaker 1: You feel it in your chest. 245 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: But this thing just it was there under the wing 246 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,639 and then it was sixty miles away. It moved without 247 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,000 displacing the air in the way we understand physics demands. 248 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: So it's not flying through the air. Really, it's almost 249 00:11:53,639 --> 00:11:55,519 like it's slipping between the air. 250 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 2: Molecule or it's actively manipulating the space time around it. 251 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,639 If you can warp the space around the object into 252 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,480 a sort of bubble, you don't create aerodynamic drag, and 253 00:12:04,519 --> 00:12:06,559 you therefore don't create a sonic boom. 254 00:12:06,639 --> 00:12:09,799 Speaker 1: But that is theoretical physics. That is literally star trek 255 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:10,759 warp drive stuff. 256 00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: It is to see an effect like that recorded on 257 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,480 standard military radar is just it's incredibly sobering. 258 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: It implies a technology that is not just you know, 259 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,519 a better jet engine or lighter metal. It's a completely 260 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,480 different understanding of physical reality. Absolutely, And speaking of playing 261 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,960 by different rules, we have to talk about the Yemen 262 00:12:29,039 --> 00:12:32,639 bounce incident because this one, this one feels openly aggressive 263 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:32,879 to me. 264 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,279 Speaker 2: Aggressive is certainly one word for it. Impervious might be 265 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,399 another way to look at it. This incident occurred on 266 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,320 October thirtieth, twenty twenty four, right off the coast of Yemen. 267 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: And this comes directly from a video release during a 268 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,600 recent house oversight hearing. So again, listeners, this isn't a 269 00:12:49,639 --> 00:12:53,039 fake TikTok hoax. This is from a multi million dollar 270 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:54,799 US Reaper drone. 271 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: Correct, the drone is doing its job monitoring the area 272 00:12:58,879 --> 00:13:03,200 it spots this rightly glowing orb hovering in the sky. Now, 273 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,320 the context here is crucial. This is an active conflict zone, 274 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,799 so the military rules of engagement are very different than 275 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,279 over California. Shoot first, Basically, the operators on the ground 276 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,240 decide this anomalous object is a potential threat to their assets, 277 00:13:16,799 --> 00:13:19,360 so a hellfire missile is fired directly at the orb. 278 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:21,399 Speaker 1: Okay, hang on, let's pause on the word bounce for 279 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,360 a second, because when I hear bounce, my brain automatically 280 00:13:24,399 --> 00:13:27,919 goes to a rubber ball hitting a wall. Right, But 281 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,840 we are talking about a hellfire missile. This isn't a 282 00:13:30,879 --> 00:13:32,600 rubber ball. This is a weapon of war. 283 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: Far from a rubber ball. A hell fire is essentially 284 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:41,000 a heavy supersonic dart specifically designed to punch straight through 285 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:41,960 heavy tank armor. 286 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: Wow. 287 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,039 Speaker 2: Even if the warhead the explosive payload part is a 288 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,600 complete dud and doesn't detonate the sheer kinetic energy of 289 00:13:49,639 --> 00:13:53,000 the impact alone is massive. It's traveling at mock one 290 00:13:53,039 --> 00:13:56,120 point three. It weighs over one hundred pounds. 291 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: So physically in our world, ye, if that missile hits 292 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,600 a solid object mid air, it should shatter or penetrate 293 00:14:02,639 --> 00:14:04,919 the target, or at least crumple upon impact. It should 294 00:14:04,919 --> 00:14:05,960 look like a midair. 295 00:14:05,639 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 2: Car crash exactly. It's basic conservation of momentum. All that 296 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:12,240 forward energy has to go somewhere when it meets resistance. 297 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:14,600 If it hits a brick wall, the wall brakes or 298 00:14:14,639 --> 00:14:18,320 the missile brakes. But in this unclassified video, the missile 299 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:21,480 hits the glowing orb and completely deflecs its vector without 300 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:22,600 slowing down the orb at all. 301 00:14:22,679 --> 00:14:25,399 Speaker 1: It literally bounces off, like skipping a flat pebble on 302 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,120 a quiet pond. 303 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,799 Speaker 2: Blue Elizondo, who is the former Pentagon intelligence officer who 304 00:14:29,799 --> 00:14:33,879 actually ran the a TO program, the government's official UFO program, 305 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,679 he commented extensively on this exact video. 306 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: What did he say? 307 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: He pointed out exactly how bizarre this physics interaction is. 308 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,759 He said, and I quote, there's no you know, bounce. 309 00:14:44,559 --> 00:14:47,960 Missiles don't just glance off things. They impact. They crush 310 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:48,919 and they explode. 311 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: And what about the ORB? Did it spin out of control? 312 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,159 Did it tumble toward the ocean? 313 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,799 Speaker 2: The ORB kept moving on its exact original trajectory, as 314 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,120 if absolutely nothing happened. It seamlessly maintained. 315 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,919 Speaker 1: Its which implies the ORB has what like infinite masks, 316 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:07,200 or is it not entirely physical like a ghost or 317 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,279 a hologram. 318 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,559 Speaker 2: Or it's projecting a frictionless energy field, or it's displacing 319 00:15:11,559 --> 00:15:14,840 inertia somehow. It heavily suggests the object isn't just made 320 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,279 of really hard armor. It's actively manipulating the fundamental laws 321 00:15:18,279 --> 00:15:20,399 of motion. If you shoot a lead bullet at a 322 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,080 steel wall, the bullet flattens. If you shoot a hell 323 00:15:23,159 --> 00:15:25,639 fire at this ORB, the missile acts like the ORB 324 00:15:25,759 --> 00:15:27,600 is the immovable center of the universe. 325 00:15:27,919 --> 00:15:30,639 Speaker 1: That is honestly terrifying. Well, I mean, think about the 326 00:15:30,679 --> 00:15:34,480 strategic implications of that. We fired one of our most reliable, 327 00:15:34,799 --> 00:15:37,559 lethal advanced weapons of this thing, and it treated it 328 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,919 like a passing mosquito. It didn't even flinch. 329 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,279 Speaker 2: It suggests a level of material science or energy shielding 330 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,480 technology that is quite literally orders of magnitude ahead of 331 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,960 anything we even have on a drawing board. If an 332 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,480 object can absorb or entirely deflect the kinetic energy of 333 00:15:54,519 --> 00:15:58,120 a supersonic heavy missile without deviating a single inch from 334 00:15:58,159 --> 00:16:01,840 its path, it implies that the object possesses an inertia 335 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,879 or structural integrity that renders it effectively invincible to our 336 00:16:05,919 --> 00:16:07,000 conventional weaponry. 337 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: It really makes you wonder if they can just shrug 338 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,320 off a hell fire missile like it's nothing, what else 339 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,679 can they shrug off a nuke? And more importantly, are 340 00:16:14,679 --> 00:16:16,120 we just poking a bear with a stick. 341 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:19,759 Speaker 2: That is the ultimate strategic concern within the intelligence community 342 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,799 right now. If these orbs are just automated drones or 343 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,480 probes and we are shooting at them and our very 344 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:29,000 best shots are completely ineffective, what kind of data does 345 00:16:29,039 --> 00:16:31,639 that signal back to the intelligence that built the probe? 346 00:16:31,879 --> 00:16:35,759 Speaker 1: It tells them that we are inherently hostile but entirely harmless, 347 00:16:36,919 --> 00:16:39,279 which is a really, really dangerous combination for us. 348 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: Precisely it puts humanity in a very vulnerable inferior position. 349 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, so that orb was relatively small, like drone sized, 350 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,759 but we also have detailed reports of things that are 351 00:16:49,799 --> 00:16:53,360 absolutely massive, and this brings us to the triangle mystery 352 00:16:53,399 --> 00:16:56,320 section of the data. I want to talk about Dylan Borland. 353 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: Yes, Dylan Berlin. Now this is a retroactive report. It 354 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,399 happened in the past, but it only fully surfaced and 355 00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:06,880 was verified during these recent twenty twenty five congressional hearings. 356 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:11,160 Dylan Borland is a very credible Air Force veteran. His 357 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,680 account dates back to twenty twelve and it happened while 358 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,880 he was stationed at Langley Air Force Base. 359 00:17:16,759 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: Langley, Okay. That is not a small, quiet, middle of 360 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,799 nowhere base. That is a major, highly secure hub. 361 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:25,079 Speaker 2: It is one of the most important installations we have. 362 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:28,119 Borland described standing outside and looking up to see a 363 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,680 massive triangular craft hovering. He estimates it was at least 364 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:32,759 one hundred feet wide. 365 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: One hundred feet that's a solid third of a football field. 366 00:17:36,599 --> 00:17:39,400 That's essentially a medium sized office building just flying in 367 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:39,799 the air. 368 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: And it lifted off the ground completely silently. No jet 369 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,400 engine roar, no helicopter rotor wash shaking the trees, just 370 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,240 a silent anti gravity lift. 371 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:50,279 Speaker 1: Wow. 372 00:17:50,279 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: But the detail that really stands out to me in 373 00:17:52,559 --> 00:17:56,039 his testimony, and this perfectly connects to some very specific 374 00:17:56,039 --> 00:17:59,480 emerging theories in UAP research. Is his description of the 375 00:17:59,519 --> 00:18:00,440 craft's surface. 376 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:03,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, this part gave me absolute goosebumps. Reading the brief, 377 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,200 He said the surface of the triangle didn't look like 378 00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:09,400 rigid metal plates riveted together. He said, it looked fluid, 379 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,480 like it was constantly shifting, like it was alive. 380 00:18:11,839 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: Biomachinery. That is a specific term that constantly comes up 381 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,519 in these deeper classified discussions, biomachinery. We are so used 382 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:23,319 to technology being totally static. Metal is metal, Plastic is plastic. 383 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,880 A Boeing seven four seven doesn't ripple and shift its 384 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:26,559 skin while. 385 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,759 Speaker 1: It flies unless it's actively crashing, right exactly. 386 00:18:30,519 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 2: But Borland describe a dark metallic black color that seemed 387 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,960 to be in constant fluid motion, even while the triangular 388 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,960 craft perfectly maintained its geometric shape. So wild it's almost 389 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,759 like the surface was a liquid metal held perfectly in 390 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:46,599 place by a strong magnetic field. 391 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: And he mentioned a glow around it too, Right he did. 392 00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:53,079 Speaker 2: He described a faint golden glow or like a swirling 393 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,519 plasma energy around the top edge of the craft. And notably, 394 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,880 he experienced immediate technical interference pearance. His cell phone signal 395 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,079 completely scrambled and died when he got too close to 396 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:04,759 the flight path. 397 00:19:05,039 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: That electromagnetic interference is such a classic signature. We hear 398 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,319 that all the time in historical cases, cars stalling out 399 00:19:11,319 --> 00:19:14,720 on country rows, radios dying in the nineteen sixties. But 400 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:18,920 the alive surface that completely changes the paradigm. 401 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:19,599 Speaker 2: It really does. 402 00:19:19,799 --> 00:19:21,279 Speaker 1: It makes me think we aren't just looking at a 403 00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:22,960 ship in the way we think of an aluminum ship 404 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,960 holding little pilots. We might be looking at an entity itself, 405 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,079 or a machine that organically grows instead of being assembled. 406 00:19:29,279 --> 00:19:34,079 Speaker 2: It profoundly challenges our rigid dichotomy between biology and technology. 407 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,200 If a civilization is sufficiently advanced, say a million years 408 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,960 older than us, their machines might not be built in 409 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:44,599 smoky factories. They might literally be grown in vats, or 410 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:48,400 the material might be programmable manner nanobots that react and 411 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,799 adapt to their environment in real time. Borland's testimony adds 412 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,440 this intense layer of strangeness that moves the conversation way 413 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:01,720 beyond just fast secret aircraft and into totally incomprehensible technology. 414 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: It's the uncanny Valley of engineering, and it looks sort 415 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,839 of like a machine, but it acts like a living animal. 416 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,240 It's just disturbing on a very primal, instinctual level. 417 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,799 Speaker 2: That is a very apt analogy. It triggers a deep 418 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,599 wrongness in the human brain because it defies all our 419 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:16,920 evolutionary categories. 420 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,319 Speaker 1: So we have the physics defying hypersonic football, the totally 421 00:20:20,319 --> 00:20:23,359 invincible orb and the living triangle. But all of those 422 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,000 were relatively isolated incidents. One pilot, one drone operator, one veteran. 423 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,559 What happened in late twenty twenty four on the East Coast. 424 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,400 That was a mass event. Yeah, that wasn't just one 425 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,079 guy in a field at midnight. 426 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,279 Speaker 2: The great East Coast drone swarm. This is the exact 427 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:40,640 moment where the phenomenon became totally undeniable for thousands of 428 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,400 regular people. 429 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,279 Speaker 1: It started in New Jersey right mid November, correct. 430 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,519 Speaker 2: It began over New Jersey, and then it just spread 431 00:20:46,599 --> 00:20:49,680 up and down the coast like a contagion. Reports flooded 432 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:55,000 the emergency lines from New York, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Maryland. We 433 00:20:55,039 --> 00:20:58,480 aren't talking about a dozen confused people looking at venus. No, 434 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:03,160 we are talking about over five thousand reported documented sightings. 435 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: Five thousand. That is a small towns worth of witnesses, 436 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:10,519 that's a minor league baseball stadium entirely full of people 437 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:11,359 pointing at the sky. 438 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,519 Speaker 2: The response was massive, local police, the FBI, the Department 439 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:19,559 of Homeland Security, the FAA, the Department of Defense. Literally 440 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,039 everyone was involved. Everyone was looking up totally. 441 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,559 Speaker 1: Helpless and what were they actually seeing because the initial 442 00:21:25,599 --> 00:21:29,000 news reports just said drones, And I vividly remember the 443 00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:31,720 morning news anchor saying, Oh, it's just a local drone 444 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,880 hobbyist club gone wrong. Mystery solved. But regular battery power 445 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,680 drones don't do what these things did. 446 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: That's the key distinction, and it's why the DoD got involved. 447 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:46,079 Witnesses described impossible precision. These objects would be moving fast 448 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,559 and then stop completely dead in mid. 449 00:21:48,519 --> 00:21:50,279 Speaker 1: Air, without drift, zero drift. 450 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:53,599 Speaker 2: They would change direction instantly at sharp angles, without the 451 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,039 banking or deceleration curves you see with any human airplanes 452 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,799 or even agile quad copters. Right one specific witness described 453 00:22:00,799 --> 00:22:04,200 a triangle of three distinct lights that would spin in 454 00:22:04,279 --> 00:22:07,839 a perfect rigid formation and then suddenly vanish, as if 455 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,039 they quote dropped off the face. 456 00:22:09,839 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: Of the sky, dropped off the face of the sky. 457 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,200 That's poetic and completely terrifying. It implies they didn't just 458 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,920 fly away really fast into the clouds, they just left 459 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:19,559 our reality. 460 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,839 Speaker 2: It absolutely implies instantaneous de materialization, or perhaps an acceleration 461 00:22:24,079 --> 00:22:27,720 so unimaginably fast that the human eye simply can't track 462 00:22:27,759 --> 00:22:29,039 the movement. They're just gone. 463 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: But why the East Coast? Why there? Why? 464 00:22:31,519 --> 00:22:33,519 Speaker 2: Then, well, think about it strategically. If you want to 465 00:22:33,559 --> 00:22:36,119 be seen, you go exactly where the people are. The 466 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,240 Northeast corridor is the most densely populated, heavily trafficked region 467 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,279 in the United States. If this was a display, a 468 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,559 deliberate demonstration of capability by whatever is controlling these things, 469 00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:51,240 it was intentionally staged in the main theater, it feels like. 470 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: A test to me, or honestly a taunt, like they're saying, 471 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,319 we are here, we are operating in your airspace, we 472 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,119 are watching you, and there's absolutely no thing your police 473 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,400 or your FBI, or your fighter jets can do to 474 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:03,960 stop us. 475 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 2: It certainly demonstrated total impunity, despite the active involvement of 476 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,519 every major three letter government agency. There were zero interceptions reported, 477 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,759 no jets got close, no explanations were ever officially offered 478 00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:19,799 to the public. Just thousands of people watching these lights 479 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,920 dance over their heads with absolute, unmatched superiority. 480 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: It's the sheer scale of the psychological impact that gets me. 481 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,680 If five thousand people all saw a ghost on the 482 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,559 same night, we'd have to completely rewrite our understanding of 483 00:23:31,599 --> 00:23:34,759 religion in the afterlife exactly. But five thousand people see 484 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:37,880 this impossible alien tech and we just we just wake 485 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,440 up and keep going to work the next day. 486 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 2: That is the psychological normalization we spoke about earlier with 487 00:23:42,759 --> 00:23:46,400 the AARO data. The human brain is incredibly good at 488 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:51,119 compartmentalizing trauma or the inexplicable. I saw the lights. They 489 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,599 broke the laws of physics. Okay, well, I still have 490 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,279 to pay the electric bill on Tuesday. We just accept 491 00:23:56,279 --> 00:23:59,119 the anomaly because we literally have no existing mental box 492 00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,680 to put it in. 493 00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: Well, talking about boxes, let's talk about the specific shape 494 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,480 that showed up in early twenty twenty five, because if 495 00:24:05,519 --> 00:24:08,240 the fluid triangle was weird, this is just next level. 496 00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:10,559 The Porterville octahedra. 497 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: Ah Yes April fourth, twenty twenty five, Porterville, California. This 498 00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:18,039 specific case is fascinating to researchers because of the extreme 499 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,960 specificity of the shape and the bizarre details observed by 500 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:22,640 the witnesses. 501 00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: So it's nine pm. There were two credible witnesses parked 502 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,519 near Granite High School. They look up and see an object. 503 00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:31,240 But it's not a classic flying saucer. It's not a cigar. 504 00:24:31,559 --> 00:24:33,720 It's an octahedron, a perfect. 505 00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 2: Eight sided double pyramid. Imagine two ancient pyramids glued together 506 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,920 at their square bases, floating point to point. 507 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: For the nerds out there, it's exactly like a giant 508 00:24:42,559 --> 00:24:45,680 D eight die from Dungeons and Dragons, just floating menacingly 509 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,119 in the sky. 510 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 2: That's actually a perfect visual, giant, metallic floating D eight. 511 00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:54,440 And it was incredibly large. The witnesses estimated it was 512 00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:57,559 roughly the size of a standard UPS delivery truck. 513 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,839 Speaker 1: And it was moving slowly right like. It wasn't zooming 514 00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:00,839 round at mock four. 515 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: Oh, it was just cruising at about thirty to thirty 516 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,079 five miles per hour, very deliberate. It was moving parallel 517 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,799 to their parked car, and it was completely utterly silent, 518 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,200 no engine noise, no anti gravity hum, nothing. 519 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: But here's the detail that completely blew my mind when 520 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,200 I read the report, And honestly, this is where my 521 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,039 own brain starts to push back and get skeptical. The 522 00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:25,440 witnesses claimed they saw distinct markings on the metallic surface. 523 00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 2: Yes they did. They described the markings clearly as looking 524 00:25:28,519 --> 00:25:29,759 like ancient hieroglyphics. 525 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,319 Speaker 1: Okay, see, you had me at floating geometric shapes, but 526 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,640 you kind of lose me at hieroglyphicsse that just sounds well. 527 00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:37,519 Speaker 2: That sounds like a bad movie prop from stargate. Why 528 00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:41,640 would an unimaginably advanced interstellar craft have ancient Egyptian graffiti 529 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,440 painted on the side. That feels way too human? It 530 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,400 does sound completely absurd at first glance, doesn't it. It 531 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,559 is the absolute pinnacle of the high strangeness aspect of 532 00:25:50,559 --> 00:25:54,279 the phenomenon. But here is the counter argument that researchers make. 533 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,640 If you are an ancient non human intelligence trying to 534 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,640 communicate with a civilization that you have secretly watched for 535 00:26:01,759 --> 00:26:05,400 thousands of years, do you use complex binary code that 536 00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:09,240 only machines read, or do you use the very first 537 00:26:09,319 --> 00:26:11,720 symbols they used when they originally started writing? 538 00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 1: Oh wow, So you think it's like a custom user 539 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,279 interface or just a label like an alien version of 540 00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:18,160 this side up, or. 541 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 2: It's a form of psychological mimicry or and this is 542 00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:25,640 the deeper theory, perhaps there is a literal historical connection 543 00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:30,000 between this specific phenomenon and what our ancient cultures actually 544 00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:32,960 saw and recorded as gods or magic. Wait, so you're saying, 545 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,440 maybe the ancient Egyptians didn't just invent hieroglyphics out of nowhere. 546 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,759 Maybe they painstakingly copied the symbols they saw on the 547 00:26:39,759 --> 00:26:41,720 sides of the vehicles that came down from the sky. 548 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: That is a rabbit hole. I am so ready to 549 00:26:43,799 --> 00:26:45,720 jump down, but it still just feels, I don't know, 550 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:50,279 a little too convenient. But Newfork actually investigated this specific claim. 551 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,079 Speaker 2: They absolutely did. They interviewed the witnesses separately, and they 552 00:26:54,079 --> 00:26:59,559 classified both witnesses as entirely sincere. The investigators believe these 553 00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:03,599 people so something that genuinely deeply baffled them. They didn't 554 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,240 just invent a story about alien writing to sound cool 555 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,680 on a podcast. They reported it because the sheer absurdity 556 00:27:09,759 --> 00:27:11,319 of it didn't make sense to them either. 557 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,279 Speaker 1: That's a great point. If you're lying, you make up 558 00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:17,960 a believable lie. The hieroglyphics detail, m hm, it really 559 00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:20,599 sticks with me. It makes the object feel way less 560 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,160 like a functional machine and much more like a religious artifact. 561 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,559 Speaker 2: It heavily complicates the simple extraterrestrial hypothesis. If they are 562 00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:32,319 just scientists from another star system charting the galaxy, why 563 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,240 use symbols that closely resemble ancient Earth writing. It strongly 564 00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:39,359 implies a deep historical connection to us, a shared. 565 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: History, or maybe we got all our writing from them 566 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:41,839 in the first place. 567 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: That is the ancient astronaut theory in a nutshell. 568 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: Okay, moving on from the ancient symbols to something completely transformative. 569 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,119 The New York shape shifters incident March fifth, twenty twenty five. 570 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,319 Speaker 2: This one is wild. It was just a guy out 571 00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:57,839 walking his dog at night, a very mundane, quiet suburban 572 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,960 setting for a very high strangeness event. 573 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: He looks up and sees two fast white orbs, which 574 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,720 you know, standard UAP stuff. So far, we've heard that 575 00:28:05,759 --> 00:28:06,480 a million times. 576 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,599 Speaker 2: But then they switch. They physically transform from bright white 577 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,079 glowing orbs into solid, dark oval shapes, and then they instantly. 578 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,279 Speaker 1: Vanish, just in the blink of an eye. 579 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 2: Yes, this suggests that the light we constantly see in 580 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,200 these reports might just be a physical byproduct of their 581 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,680 propulsion system. Or maybe it's an active camouflage mechanism. When 582 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,400 they decide to switch modes, the exhaust light goes out, 583 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,640 the true dark shape changes or is finally revealed, and 584 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,240 they depart. 585 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,079 Speaker 1: So it's active camouflage, like a high tech chameleon, or 586 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,400 like a cuttlefish changing its skin texture. 587 00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:41,599 Speaker 2: Or even a phase shift into a different spectrum. If 588 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,559 they are actively manipulating the light and gravity around them, 589 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,160 what your human eye sees isn't necessarily what is physically there. 590 00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:50,799 You are just seeing the optical illusion they want you 591 00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:53,839 to see, or the energy distortion field they're creating. 592 00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:56,359 Speaker 1: And we had a commercial flight sighting too, right right 593 00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:58,319 around the same time in March. Yes, we did. 594 00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: A passenger looking out the window on routine commercial flight 595 00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:06,640 reported seeing a perfectly round, highly polished metallic ball moving 596 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,200 directly below the plane, below the plane below it, and 597 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,759 then it casually dipped into the cloud, bang and disappeared again. 598 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,640 This is an object operating in a highly controlled commercial airspace, 599 00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:24,039 extremely close to civilian traffic, with total absolute disregard for 600 00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:25,160 our rules of the road. 601 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,559 Speaker 1: It's arrogant. That is exactly how it feels to me. 602 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,119 They are just zipping around our commercial planes like we 603 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,400 are completely standing still, or. 604 00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:36,279 Speaker 2: Perhaps they're just indifferent. We might literally be to them 605 00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:39,119 what ants are to us. Ouch. I mean, we don't 606 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,680 actively hate the ants we step over in the park, 607 00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:44,720 but we certainly don't ask for their diplomatic permission to 608 00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:45,599 walk on the grass. 609 00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: We just walk. That is a deeply humbling thought. We 610 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,759 strut around thinking we're the apex predators of the universe 611 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,039 and they treat us like mild background noise. But speaking 612 00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:57,559 of ants in the park, let's talk about what happens 613 00:29:57,559 --> 00:29:59,960 when the phenomenon decides to come down into your own 614 00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:04,319 own personal backyard. Literally the Michigan encounter. 615 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: This is a crucial case from September and October of 616 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,160 twenty twenty five northern Michigan. This wasn't a hey, look 617 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,480 at that weird dot way up in the sky situation. 618 00:30:14,599 --> 00:30:16,079 This was incredibly intimate. 619 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: A married couple had glowing orbs in their yards. 620 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,519 Speaker 2: At eye level, floating right outside their house windows. 621 00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:24,599 Speaker 1: That is utterly terrifying to me. Look if I look 622 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,000 out my kitchen window and I see a glowing alien 623 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,000 orb hovering over my weber barbecue grill, I am packing 624 00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:33,640 my bags, I am selling the house the next morning. 625 00:30:33,839 --> 00:30:37,319 Speaker 2: It certainly completely violates the psychological sanctuary of the home. 626 00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:41,720 They described the objects as being roughly basketball sized, solid 627 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,039 white with faint hints of orange glowing inside, and again 628 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,039 completely silent. 629 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,079 Speaker 1: And they weren't just passing through like a shooting star. 630 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,319 They hung around the property. 631 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,839 Speaker 2: Over the course of several nights. Sometimes they were just 632 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,240 lazily drifting around the trees. Sometimes they would shoot straight 633 00:30:56,319 --> 00:31:00,480 up into the atmosphere. One specific night, the bubble saw 634 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,880 three of these glowing orbs moving perfectly together in a 635 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,680 triangle formation before shooting straight up and vanishing. 636 00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: And the couple kept a detailed log. 637 00:31:09,559 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: They took photos, they did they documented everything. They submitted 638 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,519 the logs and the photos to Newfork. They approached this 639 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,960 whole terrifying ordeal very methodically. 640 00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: Well, what does it actually mean when it gets this close? 641 00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:24,039 I mean, the California football was twenty thousand feet up 642 00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:26,839 in the air, the East Coast drones were high up 643 00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:31,640 in the night sky. But this, this is invading personal 644 00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:32,680 human space. 645 00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:38,079 Speaker 2: It entirely shifts the narrative from distant observation to active interaction. 646 00:31:38,599 --> 00:31:41,960 When an anomalous object enters your immediate environment. Literally at 647 00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:44,480 eye level. It is not just observing the planet as 648 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,720 a whole anymore, It is specifically watching you. It suggests 649 00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:50,519 a level of directed curiosity or surveillance that is much 650 00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:51,880 more granular and targeted. 651 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:55,279 Speaker 1: It really feels like they are tightening the net or 652 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,119 just getting much bolder because they know we can't stop them. 653 00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:00,559 Speaker 2: Or perhaps they are looking for something very specific in 654 00:32:00,599 --> 00:32:06,759 our environment, human biology, a specific energy signature, human consciousness itself. 655 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,319 We honestly don't know. 656 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: So we have all these wild anecdotal reports. We have 657 00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:15,759 regular civilians, commercial pilots, trained military veterans. But what does 658 00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:19,920 the government actually say about all this right now? Because 659 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,640 usually the government just says, you know, swamp gas or 660 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,559 weather balloons, or you all need to get your eyes checked. 661 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: That brings us directly to the recent AIRO report. The 662 00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:32,759 All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, the. 663 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: Official Pentagon UFO hunters the guys whose entire job it 664 00:32:36,279 --> 00:32:38,960 is to explain this stuff away so we don't panic, correct. 665 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,759 Speaker 2: They released a comprehensive report covering incidents from May twenty 666 00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:46,200 twenty three to June twenty twenty four. They officially recorded 667 00:32:46,319 --> 00:32:49,079 seven hundred and fifty seven separate UAP. 668 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,799 Speaker 1: Sighting seven hundred and fifty seven. That is not a 669 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:54,920 small number for an official, sanitized government tally. That's not 670 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,680 a handful of crazies in the desert. 671 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: No, it's a massive data set. And while they did 672 00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:03,519 managed to resolve many of them, birds, stray weather balloons, 673 00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:07,640 and Elon Musk's Starlink satellites are very common culprits. There 674 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,160 is a stubborn, significant percentage of cases that remain completely unsolved. 675 00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: But there is one very specific stat in that dense 676 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,400 report that just jumped right off the page at me 677 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,559 the edge of space sightingsh. 678 00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: Yes, the official report notes that forty nine of these 679 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:27,200 unexplained sightings occurred at exactly roughly sixty two miles in 680 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,359 altitude that is known as the Karmen line, the literal 681 00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:32,680 internationally recognized boundary. 682 00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: Of space sixty two miles up the Karman line. Why 683 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,200 is that specific exact altitude such a huge red flag? 684 00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:41,680 Why can't the military just fly a you tube spy 685 00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:42,920 plane up there and take a look. 686 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,359 Speaker 2: Think of our atmosphere exactly like an ocean down here 687 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,960 on the ground, the air is thick like water. It's 688 00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:50,200 very easy to swim in, easy for a jet's wings 689 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,759 to fly in way up in orbit, it's a total vacuum. 690 00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:56,519 You just coast weightlessly. But the Karman line is the transition. 691 00:33:56,599 --> 00:33:58,759 It's the physical death zone in between. 692 00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: Too thin to swim, too thick to coast. 693 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: Exactly perfectly stated. There is not enough air density for 694 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,039 airplane wings to generate lyft, so a plane just falls 695 00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,280 out of the sky. But there is too much air 696 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,960 friction for a satellite to orbit, so the drag just 697 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,400 burns it up like a meteor. To stay there, hovering 698 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,199 perfectly still at sixty two miles requires a propulsion system 699 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,280 we simply do not possess. Wow, you have to fight 700 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,360 Earth's gravity constantly brute force, without using aerodynamics or orbit. 701 00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:31,519 Speaker 1: It is the absolute perfect vantage point for a spy 702 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,440 high enough to see the whole hemisphere, low enough to 703 00:34:34,559 --> 00:34:35,960 drop in on us whenever they want. 704 00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:38,639 Speaker 2: And the government's official stance on this they are finally 705 00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:42,239 admitting total defeat on some of these specific cases. One 706 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,000 high ranking official was quoted in our source documents saying, 707 00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:47,599 and I quote, I do not understand, and I don't 708 00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:49,320 know anybody else who understands them. 709 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: I do not understand. You do not hear that phrase 710 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,000 out of the Pentagon very often. 711 00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 2: It is a totally stunning admission of ignorance from the 712 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,920 most heavily funded military on Earth. They are flatly saying, 713 00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:02,239 we see it on our million dollar radars, we track 714 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,320 its movements, we don't know what it is, and we 715 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,000 don't have a clue how its physics work. 716 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,519 Speaker 1: It really feels like that I don't know is the 717 00:35:09,559 --> 00:35:11,920 single most honest thing they have said to the public 718 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,239 in seventy years. 719 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,679 Speaker 2: It is and incredibly validates what all these civilian and 720 00:35:16,679 --> 00:35:19,920 military witnesses are seeing. When the government itself says we 721 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,519 can't explain it either, it permanently moves the cultural conversation 722 00:35:23,639 --> 00:35:27,719 from is this person crazy? To what exactly are we 723 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:28,239 dealing with? 724 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,639 Speaker 1: So let's try to put this whole massive picture together 725 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,760 for everyone listening. We have a former president saying aliens 726 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,639 are real, with some caveats. We have a massive, record 727 00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:41,440 breaking surge in civilian sightings in twenty twenty five. Yes, 728 00:35:41,519 --> 00:35:45,079 we have physics defying tech missiles bouncing off orbs mock 729 00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:50,039 five footballs. We have ancient Egyptian symbols on floating geometric pyramids, 730 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,559 and we have massive coordinated drones swarming our biggest, most 731 00:35:53,559 --> 00:35:54,519 populated cities. 732 00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 2: We have the hard data, the military encounters where multi 733 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,760 sensor arrays and weapons confirm physical, objective reality. We have 734 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,719 the mass data, the sheer volume of thousands of witnesses 735 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,000 on the East Coast. And we have the weird data, 736 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:10,559 the fluid, living metal, the hieroglyphics, the intimate backyard orbs. 737 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: It completely feels like a puzzle where none of the 738 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,719 pieces actually fit the picture printed on the box, or. 739 00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:19,039 Speaker 2: Perhaps the picture on the box was just completely wrong 740 00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:22,440 all along. We have spent decades looking for metal ships 741 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,920 or hostile invaders, just like in the sci fi movies. 742 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,320 But what we are actually seeing is something vastly more nuanced, 743 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,440 much more complex and alien. 744 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: It is no longer a question about if they are real. 745 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,360 Obama hinted at that, but the radar data literally proves 746 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,599 that something is real. The real question is what are 747 00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:43,840 they actively doing here? 748 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,159 Speaker 2: The frequency of their visits is increasing rapidly, their boldness 749 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,639 is increasing. They are coming much lower into our atmosphere, 750 00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:53,679 they are staying much longer, and they are completely ignoring 751 00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:55,039 our most advanced weapons. 752 00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:59,039 Speaker 1: That is the clear pattern escalation, not necessarily a hostile attack, 753 00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,480 but a massive press. They are absolutely making sure we see. 754 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 2: Them now, and we are definitely seeing them. But are 755 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,320 we actually reacting? As you pointed out earlier, the massive 756 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,679 East coast swarm didn't claus mass riots or panic. The 757 00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:13,360 missile bouncing off the orb didn't start a global war. 758 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: Have we just accepted it? Have we already seamlessly moved 759 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,400 into the post disclosure world without ever having an official 760 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,000 press conference on the White House lawn? 761 00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 2: We very well might have. We might be sitting in 762 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,960 a state of soft disclosure right now where the harsh 763 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,559 reality is being presented to us in tiny digestible pieces 764 00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:34,440 a podcast quote here, a leaked Navy video there. Until 765 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,800 we just subconsciously accept that we share this planet with 766 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,199 something vastly superior, it neatly prevents the global panic of 767 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,360 a sudden, undeniable announcement. 768 00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:47,679 Speaker 1: There's a totally wild thought. We are all sitting around 769 00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:49,599 waiting for the President to stand at the podium and 770 00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:52,840 announce it. But maybe the announcements already happening around us, 771 00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:56,159 just one sighting at a time. It's exactly like boiling 772 00:37:56,159 --> 00:37:57,000 a frog slowly. 773 00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 2: It's a very distinct, very real possibility. Just getting used 774 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,920 to the rising temperature of reality. 775 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,559 Speaker 1: So here's my final thought for you listening at home 776 00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:08,079 or in your car right now. If a missile physically 777 00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:10,920 bouncing off a drone didn't start a war and five 778 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,039 thousand people reporting UFOs in New Jersey didn't cause a panic, 779 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,760 have we already accepted a totally new reality without even 780 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,800 realizing it. 781 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 2: It is fundamentally a question of psychological threshold. What exactly 782 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,159 does it take to finally break your worldview? 783 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: Exactly? So I want to ask you directly, if you 784 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,840 looked out your window and saw that giant octahedron with 785 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,599 the hieroglyphics hovering in your backyard tonight, yeah, right over 786 00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:39,960 your fence, what would you do? Would you actually report it? 787 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,280 Would you call the local police, or would you keep 788 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,039 it entirely to yourself just to avoid the social stigma. 789 00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 2: What is your personal line in the sand for finally believing? 790 00:38:50,519 --> 00:38:53,159 Speaker 1: Let us know? Seriously, drop a comic below, tell us 791 00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:55,280 your story if you have one, because these threads are 792 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,280 rapidly unraveling and we need absolutely everyone's help to see 793 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,800 what the whole sweater looks like underneath. 794 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 2: Keep your eyes open and keep looking up. 795 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: This has been thrilling threads. Thank you so much for 796 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,880 joining us on this deep dive. We'll see you on 797 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,440 the next one.