1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's just start with this, this really incredible contrast. 2 00:00:03,799 --> 00:00:06,320 It's almost a kind of cognitive dissonance when you think 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:06,679 about it. 4 00:00:06,759 --> 00:00:07,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. 5 00:00:07,639 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: On the one hand, you have these top tier NASA scientists, right, 6 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,039 and in twenty eleven they made this huge announcement about 7 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,640 Kepler twenty two B, a planet what six hundred light. 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Years of LA one hundred light years, Yeah, and they 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,640 are just pouring resources into hoping, just hoping that maybe 10 00:00:25,679 --> 00:00:28,960 it could harbor life. It's this very noble, very public. 11 00:00:28,679 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: Search exactly, a search for intelligence way out there in 12 00:00:31,199 --> 00:00:34,200 the cosmos. But then on the other hand, you have 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,000 these sources and they're very specific alleging that just twenty 14 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:40,960 years before that, in nineteen ninety one, during the Space 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,079 Shuttle Discovery mission, STS forty eight US astronauts were actively 16 00:00:45,079 --> 00:00:49,000 being tracked by non human craft right in our own backyard. 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,439 Speaker 2: And apparently so serious that it led to this emergency 18 00:00:51,439 --> 00:00:53,920 transmission cut off. And then the evidence, the footage. The 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,960 NASA's official line is that it just sump r. 20 00:00:56,079 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it ceased to exist, It just disappeared. And that 21 00:00:59,679 --> 00:01:03,280 ten right there is what we are diving into today. 22 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,280 Our mission is to take this huge stack of sources 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,959 we've got. I mean, we're talking government reports, articles, religious histories, 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,680 even these radical scientific experiments, and try to connect the dots. 25 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,480 Just see if there's a pattern, exactly a potential pattern 26 00:01:17,519 --> 00:01:21,680 of this massive, maybe even global concealment of knowledge about 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,159 extraterrestrial life. This isn't just you know, do you believe 28 00:01:25,159 --> 00:01:28,480 in UFOs. It's about looking at why the most powerful 29 00:01:28,519 --> 00:01:32,439 institutions on the planet, NASA, the Pentagon, even the Vatican 30 00:01:32,719 --> 00:01:36,640 have allegedly gone to such incredible lengths to manage this truth. 31 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:38,879 Speaker 2: The sources we have are just they're incredible. We've got 32 00:01:38,879 --> 00:01:40,879 a really rich set of documents to go through. We're 33 00:01:40,879 --> 00:01:43,840 going to start with NASA, you know, the Kepler telescope 34 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,719 and that really controversial STS forty eighth Shuttle footage. 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: Okay, then we're going to. 36 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: Pivot to the political side of things, the nineteen fifty 37 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,879 two Washington d C sightings, the creation of Project Blue Book, the. 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: Famous buzzing of the White House. 39 00:01:55,359 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: Yes, that's the one, and from there we dive into 40 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:02,599 the Vatican at archives, the story of Giordano Bruno and 41 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,159 what really might have been in that third Message of 42 00:02:05,159 --> 00:02:08,680 Fatima that they kept under wraps for so long, and 43 00:02:08,719 --> 00:02:09,080 then to. 44 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: Wrap it all up, we're landing in the ancient world 45 00:02:12,439 --> 00:02:15,960 with this engineer Joe Parr and his truly mind bending 46 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,360 research on the Great Pyramid, the idea that it's not 47 00:02:18,439 --> 00:02:21,319 a tune but something else entirely. 48 00:02:21,439 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe a portal, an interdimensional portal. 49 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: It's an incredible journey. We're going from modern astrophysics to 50 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,879 ancient physics really, and it forces you to question the 51 00:02:30,879 --> 00:02:34,960 official story at every single turn. So yeah, let's get 52 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,159 into it. Let's start with that promise of finding life 53 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,879 so so far away. Let's do it so to ground ourselves, 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,800 let's start with the hard science. December fifth, Tony eleven. 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,719 This was, I mean, a genuinely exciting day for anyone 56 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:47,439 interested in space. 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. The announcement came from NASA Ames Research Center 58 00:02:50,719 --> 00:02:53,960 out in California. They officially confirmed that the Kepler space 59 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,919 Telescope had found Kepler twenty two B. 60 00:02:56,159 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: And this wasn't just another blip on a screen, right, 61 00:02:58,159 --> 00:02:58,800 This was different. 62 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,759 Speaker 2: It was a monument mental step forward because Kepler twenty 63 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,319 two B was the very first planet that NASA confirmed 64 00:03:06,479 --> 00:03:09,199 was orbiting squarely inside the habital zone. 65 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:10,879 Speaker 1: Of its star Goldilock zone. 66 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,039 Speaker 2: The Goldilock zone exactly, not too hot, not too cold. 67 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,560 And for anyone listening who maybe isn't familiar with how 68 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,800 Kepler worked, you have to understand they can't just you know, 69 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,120 point a telescope and see a planet six hundred light years. 70 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,439 Speaker 1: Away, right, It's not like that at all. 71 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: No, the Kepler mission used something called the transit method, 72 00:03:28,199 --> 00:03:30,719 So it just stared relentlessly at one patch of the 73 00:03:30,719 --> 00:03:34,800 sky and it measured these tiny infinitesimal dips in a. 74 00:03:34,759 --> 00:03:37,039 Speaker 1: Star's light when a planet passes in front of it. 75 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,039 Speaker 2: When a planet transits. Yeah, and to confirm Kepler twenty 76 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,919 two B, they had to see that dip happen three 77 00:03:41,919 --> 00:03:45,159 separate times. The regularity was the key, and. 78 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,039 Speaker 1: That told them it has an orbit of about two 79 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,240 hundred and ninety days, which is, I mean, that's pretty 80 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,000 close to our own three sixty. 81 00:03:50,719 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: Five, very close. And the significance isn't just its rbit 82 00:03:53,719 --> 00:03:56,159 or even its size, which is about what two point 83 00:03:56,159 --> 00:03:58,199 four times that of Earth. The real promise was in 84 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:58,840 the temperature. 85 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,599 Speaker 1: The sources get in to this and it just sounds, well, 86 00:04:03,599 --> 00:04:07,240 it sounds incredible. Six hundred light years away orbiting a 87 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,599 star that's pretty similar to our own sun, a. 88 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: G type star. 89 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the math suggests that its surface temperatures could 90 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,719 actually be pretty temperate. 91 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:18,759 Speaker 2: Yes, they estimated that daytime temperatures could be like a 92 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,279 mild summer here on Earth. I think the comparison they 93 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,000 used was a summer in San Francisco. 94 00:04:23,199 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: Wow. 95 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: And that one data point, just that temperature range that 96 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,040 avoids freezing and avoids boiling. That's what opens the door 97 00:04:31,079 --> 00:04:31,839 to everything else. 98 00:04:31,879 --> 00:04:34,879 Speaker 1: The liquid oceans, a thick atmosphere, and. 99 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: Of course the big one, life as we know it. 100 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,720 It takes the idea from just being an abstract theory 101 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:41,360 and makes it a concrete possibility. 102 00:04:41,639 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: So the stated goal from NASA has always been this 103 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,160 really noble one right to find Earth like planets, to 104 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,040 understand how other solar systems are put together. But this 105 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,639 is where that irony we talked about just smacks you 106 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,519 in the face. We are pouring billions of dollars and 107 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,800 just decades of human effort into confirming the possibility of 108 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,319 life six hundred light years from. 109 00:05:03,199 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 2: Here, while at the same time, as our sources allege, 110 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,720 when very tangible, very direct evidence shows up right here, 111 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,279 right in our orbit on the video feeds from our 112 00:05:13,319 --> 00:05:16,839 own space shuttles confirmed by military radar over our own 113 00:05:16,879 --> 00:05:21,319 capital city. It gets aggressively dismissed, it gets denied, it 114 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,600 gets disappeared. 115 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: It's the ultimate blind spot, isn't it. It's really intense 116 00:05:25,879 --> 00:05:31,560 public search for theoretical life and then this deep secret 117 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,480 suppression of alleged existing immediate contact. 118 00:05:35,519 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: That tension is the whole story. 119 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,079 Speaker 1: Okay, So let's jump back in time then, from the 120 00:05:39,079 --> 00:05:41,959 promise of twenty eleven to the alleged reality of September twelfth, 121 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,920 nineteen ninety one. The Space Shuttle Discovery mission sts forty eight. 122 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,399 Speaker 2: Right, and the Shuttle is flying high nearly three hundred 123 00:05:48,399 --> 00:05:50,600 and fifty miles above the Earth. Its main job was 124 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:53,399 to deploy this big piece of equipment, the Upper Atmosphere 125 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:54,240 Research Satellite. 126 00:05:54,319 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: The context is important. This is a serious scientific mission. 127 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, this is highly technical work. It's critical for 128 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,800 during Earth's atmosphere or ozone layer, all of that. It 129 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,360 was not a sensational mission. It was science. But it 130 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:08,519 became the center of one of the most debated pieces 131 00:06:08,519 --> 00:06:10,439 of footage in well in history. 132 00:06:10,639 --> 00:06:13,319 Speaker 1: So the footage itself, it was taken by a camera 133 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,720 mounted in the rear cargo bay, and the sources are 134 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,600 very clear on this point. NASA says the footage no 135 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,600 longer exists or it was. 136 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: Overridden standard procedure. 137 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: They'd say, right, But these dedicated amateur monitors, people who 138 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,319 just routinely recorded the public shovel transmissions, they saved the tape. 139 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:32,720 So what did it show. 140 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: It showed several unidentified objects. At first glance, you might think, okay, 141 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,040 space junk, ice crystals. They were described as these small 142 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,319 glowing or flashing lights. But the thing that sets this 143 00:06:45,399 --> 00:06:48,560 footage apart, the critical detail is how they moved. 144 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: This is the key part. 145 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 2: It is the objects showed what looked like instantaneous acceleration, 146 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,720 and they made these sharp, non ballistic changes in direction. 147 00:06:57,879 --> 00:07:01,399 I mean maneuvers that just completely defy the laws of momentum, 148 00:07:01,519 --> 00:07:04,800 especially at that altitude with no atmosphere to push against. 149 00:07:04,879 --> 00:07:07,079 Speaker 1: If they were just ice particles, like NASA. 150 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,199 Speaker 2: Claimed, yeah, the official explanation, they would. 151 00:07:08,959 --> 00:07:10,879 Speaker 1: Just sort of float away on a predictable path of 152 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,759 ballistic trajectory. They wouldn't suddenly make a right angle turn 153 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,560 or you know, shoot off into the distance. 154 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: They absolutely would not. And the story from the sources 155 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,879 gets even more detailed. It claims that for a moment, 156 00:07:21,959 --> 00:07:25,120 the shuttle was actually surrounded by what one person described 157 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,480 as a UFO flying saucer type of craft surrounded. And 158 00:07:29,519 --> 00:07:34,079 there's this one specific moment detailed where a shield at 159 00:07:34,079 --> 00:07:37,560 one point was supposedly put around the shuttle briefly, and 160 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,120 right after that happened, all the objects just vanished instantly. 161 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,199 Speaker 1: The word shield there, that's not passive. That suggests something active, 162 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:48,800 deliberate an energy field to some kind. 163 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,639 Speaker 2: It does. And this is where it gets just I mean, 164 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,680 this is the bombshell moment, the moment of that accidental revelation. 165 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,879 The sources talk about this tiny snippet of dialogue that 166 00:07:56,959 --> 00:07:59,800 was captured, and it was captured over what everyone believed 167 00:07:59,839 --> 00:08:00,879 was an open. 168 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,759 Speaker 1: Public channel, and what was it they heard? 169 00:08:02,959 --> 00:08:05,639 Speaker 2: The alleged quote is, hey, we're being tracked by an 170 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:06,759 alien spacecraft. 171 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:07,279 Speaker 1: Wow. 172 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: And then immediately after that sentence, just dead air, the 173 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,959 transmission cuts. 174 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: The speculation being that the astronaut on the mic thought 175 00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:18,279 they were on a private, secure channel exactly. 176 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,439 Speaker 2: They must have thought they were talking on the private loop, 177 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,879 just voicing their shop to mission control or their crewmates, 178 00:08:25,199 --> 00:08:27,720 and the second they realized they were broadcasting to the 179 00:08:27,879 --> 00:08:31,759 entire world, someone cut the feed. It's maybe the closest 180 00:08:31,759 --> 00:08:34,960 we've ever gotten to a completely unfiltered, in the moment 181 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,759 report from a trained observer. 182 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: That split second, that lapse in protocol is what researchers 183 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,440 were citing say confirms the reality of what was happening. 184 00:08:43,879 --> 00:08:47,679 You have a highly trained professional under extreme stress and 185 00:08:47,759 --> 00:08:51,000 their first instinct is just to state the unbelievable truth, and. 186 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,039 Speaker 2: That leads right into the official denial. Of course, NASA 187 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,480 came out and said the images show nothing more than 188 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,759 ice particles, maybe some dust ejected from the shuttles vents 189 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,399 catching the sun for a moment. 190 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,799 Speaker 1: But you have to ask yourself, as these sources do, 191 00:09:04,039 --> 00:09:07,440 why do we automatically believe the institution's press release over 192 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,240 the shocked, unfiltered voice of its own, highly trained, highly 193 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,200 vetted astronaut. 194 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:15,279 Speaker 2: And that's the point the sources really hammer home. It's 195 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,759 the credibility of the observers. These are not people who 196 00:09:18,759 --> 00:09:23,240 are prone to making things up or hysteria. They are 197 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,799 military pilots, there engineers, they're scientists. Their entire careers are 198 00:09:27,799 --> 00:09:30,639 built on precise, sober observation. 199 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,799 Speaker 1: So if they can't explain what they're seeing and the 200 00:09:32,799 --> 00:09:35,879 official explanation feels so flimsy. 201 00:09:35,399 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: Then the denial isn't about scientific clarification anymore. It's about 202 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,080 systemic damage control. It's about managing the narrative. 203 00:09:42,279 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: And that contrast between the public excitement for Kepler twenty 204 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,639 two B and the total lockdown on STS forty eight. 205 00:09:49,039 --> 00:09:51,600 This is a perfect little microcosm of this whole deep dive, 206 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:52,080 isn't it. 207 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,639 Speaker 2: It is the openness about the future of life versus 208 00:09:54,799 --> 00:09:56,679 the secrecy about its alleged presence. 209 00:09:56,759 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so we've looked at the alleged denial from the 210 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,480 scientific community, shift gears now to the political and military angle, 211 00:10:02,799 --> 00:10:05,519 because if these craft are really here, it presents a 212 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:08,720 fundamental challenge to national security. And there's no period in 213 00:10:08,799 --> 00:10:11,960 history that illustrates that potential panic better than the summer 214 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:12,960 of nineteen fifty two. 215 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: The Washington d C buzzing incident July nineteen fifty two. 216 00:10:18,159 --> 00:10:21,120 It is, you could argue, the single most important UFO 217 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,120 event in American history, and that's purely because of where 218 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,279 it happened and how solid the confirmation was. 219 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,639 Speaker 1: Right, this wasn't some blurry photo from a remote desert. 220 00:10:29,879 --> 00:10:32,600 This happened directly over the Capitol, over the White House, 221 00:10:32,639 --> 00:10:35,320 the Capitol Building, yeah, the symbolic heart of the nation. 222 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:37,399 Speaker 2: And it wasn't just a one time thing. It happened 223 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,120 on two consecutive weekends. That implies a pattern, It implies 224 00:10:41,159 --> 00:10:43,879 intent and intelligence behind it all. 225 00:10:43,919 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: And you have to remember the context. This is the 226 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,720 height of the Cold War. There's this intense paranoia about 227 00:10:49,759 --> 00:10:53,440 Soviet bombers. The whole city, the whole country was on 228 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:54,240 a knife's. 229 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 2: Edge, so the situation was absolutely explosive. On that first weekend, 230 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,440 you have air traffic controllers at Washington National Airport now 231 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:05,679 Reagan National and they start seeing these high speed, unconventional 232 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,600 targets on their radar screens. 233 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: And this isn't just a visual sighting. This is objective 234 00:11:10,279 --> 00:11:11,200 electronic data. 235 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,759 Speaker 2: That's the key. And critically, at the same time, Andrews 236 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,639 Air Force Base, which was using different, more powerful military 237 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,480 radar systems, confirmed the exact same targets, so you have 238 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,840 multi site, multisystem conformation. It's not a glitch. 239 00:11:26,919 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: So the objects came back the next weekend. The military 240 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,639 had to respond immediately. 241 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:35,919 Speaker 2: They scrambled jet interceptors f ninety four starfires from nearby bases. 242 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,960 But the objects they just played with them. 243 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: What do you mean? 244 00:11:40,039 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: The sources describe this frustrating cat and mouse game. The 245 00:11:43,159 --> 00:11:46,480 objects would just outwit the jets. They would hover completely 246 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:50,440 stationary at incredible altitudes. Then they would accelerate to speeds 247 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,159 the jets couldn't even dream of matching, or they would 248 00:11:53,159 --> 00:11:55,720 simply blink off the radar screens the moment the pilots 249 00:11:55,759 --> 00:11:56,759 got close enough to get a. 250 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,799 Speaker 1: Visual and there was a clear pattern to it, a. 251 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: Very clear pattern. Objects would disappear when the jets showed up, 252 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,080 and then they'd reappear as soon as the jets went 253 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,720 back to base to refuel. It's like they were actively 254 00:12:06,759 --> 00:12:09,159 studying our military response capabilities. 255 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: This is where the ancient astronaut theorists come in, and 256 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,000 they contend that the location was a deliberate choice. Flying 257 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,720 right over the White House, the capital of the Pentagon. 258 00:12:19,159 --> 00:12:19,960 That wasn't random. 259 00:12:20,039 --> 00:12:23,639 Speaker 2: No, they argue, it was a very symbolic direct contact. 260 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:28,279 It was a demonstration, a show of overwhelming technological superiority 261 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,480 aim right at the heart of our government. The message 262 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,080 wasn't sumped over the radio, it was sent with action 263 00:12:34,399 --> 00:12:37,080 it was basically, hey, we'd like to talk to you guys, 264 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:40,559 or maybe more to the point, we're here and there's 265 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,720 absolutely nothing you can do about it. 266 00:12:42,799 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: And if you accept that interpretation that this was calculated 267 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,240 symbolic communication, then the US government had to respond. They 268 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,080 had to regain control the narrative immediately to avoid just. 269 00:12:53,279 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: Mass panic and maintain the illusion of military control, which 270 00:12:56,799 --> 00:12:58,399 was everything during the Cold War. 271 00:12:58,879 --> 00:13:01,399 Speaker 1: So that leads us to the deny engine itself, Project 272 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:01,919 blue Book. 273 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: Right. The official response was incredibly fast, but also you 274 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,559 could argue, incredibly deceptive. Within just a few days of 275 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,919 the sightings, the government held this massive press conference. It 276 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,120 was the largest press conference the Air Force had held 277 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,399 since the end of World War Two. 278 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: Wow. And what was the official line they fed to 279 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:21,559 this terrified publican press corps. 280 00:13:21,879 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: The Director of Air Force Intelligence, a General John Sandford, 281 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,639 stood up and gave the firm conclusion. He said that 282 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,000 the phenomena and I'm quoting here does not contain any 283 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,360 pattern of purpose or of consistency that we can relate 284 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,399 to any conceivable threat to the United States. 285 00:13:38,759 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: So basically, nothing to see here. It's not a threat. 286 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:43,879 Speaker 2: Go back to your lives exactly They blamed it all 287 00:13:43,879 --> 00:13:47,840 on atmospheric temperature and versions causing radar anomalies, and they 288 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,840 said the visual sightings were just people mistaking stars or meteors. 289 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,039 Speaker 1: That's an impressive political maneuvering. By saying there was no 290 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,360 conceivable threat, they just immediately shift the conversation away from 291 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,639 what are these things toward don't worry. 292 00:14:01,519 --> 00:14:04,759 Speaker 2: It's pure public relations. But they knew a single press 293 00:14:04,759 --> 00:14:07,679 conference wouldn't be enough. The number of sightings was growing, 294 00:14:08,039 --> 00:14:11,279 and that's why they created Project blue Book in nineteen fifty. 295 00:14:11,039 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: Two, which was on paper, created to investigate these sightings. 296 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: On paper, yes, but the sources we've reviewed, they argue 297 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,519 that it quickly became the government's denial engine. The core 298 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,559 allegation is that blue Book wasn't designed to find the truth. 299 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,240 It was designed to suppress it. The goal was to 300 00:14:27,279 --> 00:14:30,240 take any and all reports, no matter how credible, and 301 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,480 systematically debunk them, label them as hoaxes, misidentifications, weather balloons, 302 00:14:35,559 --> 00:14:37,840 swamp gas, whatever it took. 303 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: Now I have to play devil's advocate here for a second. 304 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,399 I mean, Bluebook investigated thousands of cases. Isn't it just 305 00:14:43,399 --> 00:14:47,480 statistically likely that a lot of them were hoaxes or misidentifications, 306 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:48,200 Oh for sure. 307 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 2: And the sources don't deny that many cases were certainly explainable, 308 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:54,559 but they argue that's not the point. The point is 309 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,159 that too many tangible, objective sightings of objects doing things 310 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,360 that were literally just incredibly extraordinary, those non ballistic movements 311 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,919 again exactly the kind of stuff that just can't be 312 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,919 explained away. And the theory is the air Force couldn't 313 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,440 just dismiss the hoaxes to maintain the no threat narrative. 314 00:15:12,799 --> 00:15:15,759 They had to dismiss everything. The credible reports had to 315 00:15:15,799 --> 00:15:18,159 be buried along with the nonsense. And the history of 316 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,919 these studies shows this pattern over and over. Dramatic, verifiable 317 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,759 evidence just gets dismissed. 318 00:15:24,799 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: So the fear driving all this suppression, Yeah, it wasn't 319 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:30,480 necessarily that the aliens were hostile. 320 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: No, the fear was instability. The fear was what happens 321 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,240 to our society. If the public suddenly realizes that there 322 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:40,840 are a craft flying around with technology that is generations, 323 00:15:40,919 --> 00:15:44,759 maybe centuries ahead of anything the US or the Soviets have. 324 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,159 Speaker 1: Your entire model of military deterrence just collapses overnight. 325 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:48,679 Speaker 3: It's gone. 326 00:15:48,799 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: And the sources claim the whole cover up was managed 327 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,399 by this secret and small elite body of people, high 328 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,519 level figures and intelligence in the military, who were terrified 329 00:15:57,559 --> 00:16:00,519 of the societal chaos, the religious upheaval, and of course 330 00:16:00,559 --> 00:16:02,399 the loss of their own technological dominance. 331 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,039 Speaker 1: And then, just like that, in nineteen sixty nine, Project 332 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,279 Blue Book gets shut down abruptly. 333 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:10,679 Speaker 2: Why Well, the official reason was the Condon Report, which 334 00:16:10,679 --> 00:16:14,000 basically concluded that studying UFOs for twenty one years hadn't 335 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:17,639 added anything to scientific knowledge, but the sources suggest the 336 00:16:17,679 --> 00:16:21,360 real reason was twofold. First, the public wasn't buying the 337 00:16:21,399 --> 00:16:25,759 denials anymore, they'd lost credibility completely, And second, the truly 338 00:16:25,799 --> 00:16:29,720 sensitive investigation had likely been moved into even deeper, blacker, 339 00:16:29,879 --> 00:16:34,039 more classified projects. Why keep up a public facing charade 340 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,159 when you can handle the real stuff in total secret. 341 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,559 So the termination of Blue Book ironically just made people 342 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:43,320 even more suspicious that the government knew way more than 343 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,000 it was letting on. 344 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,639 Speaker 1: Okay, so we've gone from science to politics and the military. 345 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,639 Let's make another big pivot now to maybe the oldest, 346 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,440 most guarded institution on the planet, the Catholic Church. 347 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,759 Speaker 2: An institution that deals in cosmology, creation, theology and secrets. 348 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,440 If anyone has been keeping records of these kinds of 349 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,839 events for centuries, researchers argue, it's the Vatican. 350 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,039 Speaker 1: And that takes us straight to the Vatican's secret archives. 351 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:10,920 This is an institution that thinks in terms of centuries, 352 00:17:11,079 --> 00:17:14,039 not you know, four year election cycles. Yeah, the secrets 353 00:17:14,039 --> 00:17:15,480 they keep have immense weight. 354 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: They really do. And you have to understand the history 355 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,799 of the archives themselves. They weren't always so secret. Before 356 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:24,000 the sixteen hundreds, a lot of these documents were just 357 00:17:24,039 --> 00:17:27,319 in the Vatican Library. But then Poe Paul the Fifth 358 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,880 in the seventeenth century ordered that certain documents be moved 359 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,240 and completely closed off to any outsiders, completely sealed, and 360 00:17:34,279 --> 00:17:37,119 they stayed that way for over two hundred years until 361 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:42,039 eighteen eighty one. And even today getting access is incredibly difficult. 362 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,680 It's highly restricted, highly monitored. 363 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: And the allegation here isn't just that they're holding, you know, 364 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,359 old letters from kings and queens. The allegation is that 365 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:56,759 they were holding explosive classified information about non human intelligence. 366 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: That's the core of it. The researchers were citing believe 367 00:17:59,759 --> 00:18:04,200 that these archives contain actual records, chronicles, of extraterrestrial contact 368 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,000 that the Church has documented over the centuries. They know 369 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:08,519 what happened, but they keep it secret. 370 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,559 Speaker 1: Why. What's the reason? 371 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 2: Because the information is and this is a quote so 372 00:18:12,519 --> 00:18:15,160 explosive that they threaten the doctrine of the Catholic Church. 373 00:18:15,519 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: Let's unpack that, the doctrinal threat. I mean, on the surface, 374 00:18:19,039 --> 00:18:21,920 you'd think, Okay, God is all powerful, his creation is infinite. 375 00:18:22,039 --> 00:18:24,279 Why would the existence of aliens threaten that? 376 00:18:24,759 --> 00:18:27,519 Speaker 2: It's a great question, and the threat isn't really to 377 00:18:27,559 --> 00:18:30,720 the existence of God. It's to the centrality of humanity 378 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,920 in God's plan. Okay, Catholic doctrine at its core places humanity, 379 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,400 and specifically the story of Jesus, the incarnation, the redemption, 380 00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:42,599 at the absolute center of the entire cosmos. If you 381 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,119 suddenly confirm the existence of other highly advanced, maybe even 382 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,079 more spiritual beings out there, beings who perhaps never fell 383 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,000 from grace or who achieved enlightenment in totally different ways. 384 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: It changes everything. It challenges ideas like original sin, salvation, 385 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,200 the unique role of Christ for the whole universe. 386 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,039 Speaker 2: It could trigger radical theological crisis. It questions the special, 387 00:19:05,279 --> 00:19:09,000 unique spiritual status of humankind and that is a huge 388 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,680 problem for the institution. 389 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: And this doctoral fight is directly linked to historical figures 390 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,039 who were punished by the Church like Giordano Bruno. 391 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely Bruno was burned at the stake in sixteen hundred. 392 00:19:19,519 --> 00:19:22,880 Why because he was a radical thinker who championed the 393 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,000 idea of an infinite universe filled with countless inhabited worlds 394 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:27,440 of you. 395 00:19:27,559 --> 00:19:31,039 Speaker 1: They completely contradicted the Church's official geocentric model. 396 00:19:31,079 --> 00:19:34,079 Speaker 2: At the time, it was heresy, and the sources contend 397 00:19:34,079 --> 00:19:36,640 that the secret archives might contain the real reason for 398 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,920 his conviction, not just that he was speculating, but that 399 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,519 he may have had details, messages, insights, maybe even received 400 00:19:44,559 --> 00:19:47,119 from extraterrestrials that supported his claims. 401 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,559 Speaker 1: So the theory is he wasn't just guessing, might have 402 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,880 been sharing knowledge that was deemed he ratical because it 403 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,039 broke the Church's monopoly on cosmology. 404 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 2: That's the theory, and researchers believe that when those archives 405 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,039 are finally truly open, they will reveal a extraordinary levels 406 00:20:01,039 --> 00:20:04,200 of details about figures like Bruno and confirm that the 407 00:20:04,279 --> 00:20:07,400 Church has been aware of and actively wrestling with the 408 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,119 implications of alien life for centuries. 409 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,319 Speaker 1: So if Bruno's the historical example, the Miracle of Fatima 410 00:20:13,319 --> 00:20:16,359 in nineteen seventeen is the modern one. This is an 411 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,519 event that involves alleged direct censorship. 412 00:20:19,839 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: It is It took place in a sheep pasture in Portugal. 413 00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:27,319 The story center is on three young shepherd children, and 414 00:20:27,519 --> 00:20:31,200 officially the church recognizes this as an apparition of the 415 00:20:31,279 --> 00:20:31,920 Virgin Mary. 416 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: But the physical events, what the crowd saw that was 417 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,319 something else entirely. 418 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: Something else entirely. There were seventy thousand people who gathered there, 419 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:43,640 and while the children were talking about seeing the Virgin Mary, 420 00:20:43,839 --> 00:20:46,160 the crowd reported seeing the sun dance in the sky, 421 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,480 and many many witnesses specifically described seeing a spinning silver disc. 422 00:20:51,759 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: A spinning silver disc, I mean that is classic UFO terminology. 423 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,960 That is not how you would typically describe a religious apparition, 424 00:20:58,079 --> 00:20:58,480 not at all. 425 00:20:58,519 --> 00:21:01,799 Speaker 2: And according to the researchers, the telepathic message the children 426 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,400 supposedly received is what makes this so critical. They believed 427 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,359 the message wasn't from Mary, but from the occupants of 428 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:08,920 that craft. 429 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,079 Speaker 1: What was the alleged message. 430 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: The message filtered through the children's religious understanding, was supposedly 431 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,480 incredibly direct. It was you are not alone on this planet. 432 00:21:18,839 --> 00:21:21,400 We are here, We've been here some thousands of years ago. 433 00:21:21,519 --> 00:21:25,079 We observe you. Please prepare mankind that we will return again. 434 00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: That sounds more like an operational briefing than a spiritual prophecy. 435 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 2: It really does. So the children were given three secrets. 436 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:35,480 The first two, a vision of hell and a prophecy 437 00:21:35,519 --> 00:21:38,000 about World War two, were eventually revealed by the Vatican. 438 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,640 But the third secret that became this huge international mystery. 439 00:21:42,839 --> 00:21:46,559 Speaker 1: The Pope just refused to release it for decades, refused. 440 00:21:46,279 --> 00:21:48,799 Speaker 2: And when the Vatican finally did release their version of 441 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:51,279 it in the year two thousand, they claimed it was 442 00:21:51,319 --> 00:21:54,680 just a symbolic vision about the persecution of Christians. But 443 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,160 the researchers were looking at They contend that the real 444 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,799 third message apparently talks about extraterrestrials, and the fact that 445 00:22:01,799 --> 00:22:04,200 they kept it secret for so long under so much 446 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,119 pressure suggests the content was far more challenging to the 447 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,279 Church than just a vision of martyrdom. 448 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,039 Speaker 1: To withhold part of a verified miracle, one witnessed by 449 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:18,079 seventy thousand people, that points to a pretty profound institutional fear. 450 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 2: It really does, and the sources put this in a 451 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,480 wider context, they say Fatima isn't a one off. They 452 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,039 point to other events in history, the voices Joan of 453 00:22:26,079 --> 00:22:29,240 our curd, the visions that Lord's countless stories in the 454 00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:30,319 Hebrew Bible. 455 00:22:30,279 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: The idea being that advanced non human intelligences have been 456 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,119 interacting with us from millennia. 457 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: And we've just been interpreting those interactions through whatever cultural 458 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,240 or religious lens we had available at the time. 459 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: So the sources flatly state that the Vatican, of course 460 00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:50,200 knows about extraterrestrial life. So why keep up the charade? 461 00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:53,599 Speaker 2: Because control of the narrative is everything. The sources are 462 00:22:53,599 --> 00:22:57,440 clear aliens don't disprove God. They just make God's creation 463 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,880 infinitely bigger and more amazing. The risk isn't theological, it's sociological. 464 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:03,960 It's psychological. 465 00:23:04,039 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: A crisis of faith a massive one. 466 00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 2: The Church provides the spiritual roadmap for billions of people. 467 00:23:10,559 --> 00:23:14,319 A sudden, chaotic revelation of our cosmic neighbors could shatter that, 468 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,359 shifting people's allegiance away from established religion toward well, who 469 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,480 knows what. The suppression is about maintaining control and stability, 470 00:23:21,559 --> 00:23:23,200 not about a lack of knowledge. 471 00:23:23,279 --> 00:23:26,319 Speaker 1: Okay, We've hit science, government, and religion. We've seen the 472 00:23:26,319 --> 00:23:29,680 alleged patterns of suppression in the modern age. So now 473 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,799 we're going to dive into ancient technology and some really 474 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,319 radical physics. And this might be the part that ties 475 00:23:35,319 --> 00:23:35,920 it all together. 476 00:23:36,319 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 2: It could be because it might hold the key to 477 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,799 explaining the technology we talked about earlier, the SPS forty 478 00:23:41,839 --> 00:23:44,640 eight craft, the objects over DC. We were talking about 479 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,279 the Great Pyramid and the work of an electronics engineer 480 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:48,480 named Joe Parr. 481 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: And Joe Parr's experiment which he did back in nineteen 482 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,759 seventy seven. In nineteen eighty seven, they take the pyramids 483 00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:56,440 completely out of the world of archaeology. He didn't look 484 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,400 at the Great Pyramid as a tomb. He looked at 485 00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,839 it as a machine. 486 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,559 Speaker 2: As a piece of complex machinery. His work was all 487 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:07,039 about measuring its properties, the electrical, magnetic, radioactive fields around it, 488 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,640 and he used his own custom built, highly sensitive equipment 489 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,119 to do it. 490 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: So what was his core idea his hypothesis? 491 00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: Parr believed that all pyramids, because of their specific geometric 492 00:24:17,759 --> 00:24:20,680 shape and where they're placed on the Earth, naturally generate 493 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,079 an energy field around them. But he found that under 494 00:24:24,079 --> 00:24:26,920 normal conditions, this field is usually way too weak or 495 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,400 too dispersed to really study in. 496 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,039 Speaker 1: A lab, so he had to find a way to 497 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,279 juice it up. Basically, that's the breakthrough. 498 00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 2: He developed a way to strengthen and concentrate this pyramid energy. 499 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,880 He needed to figure out how to flip the switch 500 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,559 and activate the power that he believed was just latent 501 00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:43,720 in the structures shape. 502 00:24:43,799 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: It's like taking that old kind of fringe idea that 503 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,039 pyramids have special energy and trying to prove it with 504 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,119 rigorous engineering. 505 00:24:50,279 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: Exactly. His method was to take a precisely built scale 506 00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:58,640 model of the pyramid and subject it to some pretty 507 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,240 extreme conditions, and that leads us to his most incredible finding, 508 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,000 the anti radiation bubble. 509 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,279 Speaker 1: Okay, you have to describe this experiment because this is 510 00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:10,799 where our known physics starts to get very weird. 511 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,599 Speaker 2: It really does. So par puts his model pyramid inside 512 00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:17,559 a centrifuge and he spins it at a very high skeed. 513 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,519 While it's spinning, he bombards the whole environment with an 514 00:25:20,519 --> 00:25:22,640 intense alternating magnetic current. 515 00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:25,079 Speaker 1: So you have the geometry, the motion, and the magnetic 516 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,000 field all interacting, right. 517 00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 2: And that combination allegedly caused this dense energy field to 518 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,160 form around the model pyramid. He described it as this 519 00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:36,519 visible orb or a bubble of light. 520 00:25:36,599 --> 00:25:37,599 Speaker 1: And what did this bubble do? 521 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: This is the mind blowing part. Par claimed this energy 522 00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:45,200 orb would block all known types of electromagnetic radiation, and 523 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:49,480 I mean the entire spectrum radio waves, microwaves, X rays, 524 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,160 and the really impossible one high energy gamma rays. 525 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: Wait gamma rays, that's some of the most penetrating radiation 526 00:25:56,519 --> 00:25:59,440 there is. We use thick walls of lead or concrete 527 00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:01,359 to block gamma rays exactly. 528 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,039 Speaker 2: And here was this localized energy field, this bubble, doing 529 00:26:05,079 --> 00:26:08,200 the same thing. It is completely inexplicable by any known 530 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,680 physics or energy forces that we understand today. 531 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: So what did Parr think he had found? What were 532 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,000 the implications? 533 00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:17,039 Speaker 2: He realized he had created a perfect shield, an energy 534 00:26:17,079 --> 00:26:19,920 field that defies everything we know about how energy works. 535 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,000 If it's true, it suggests the ancient builders of the 536 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,559 pyramid understood a level of physics that were only just 537 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:26,960 now starting to theorize about. 538 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: If a small model can do that. Think about the 539 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,839 applications deep space travel, military defense, even gives you a 540 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,720 possible mechanism for that shield that was supposedly deployed around 541 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,079 the STS forty eight shuttle. 542 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 2: It does, but his experiments didn't stop with just shielding. 543 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,400 They moved into propulsion, into dimensional travel. 544 00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:49,559 Speaker 3: What happened when he kept energizing the model in later experiments, 545 00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:52,720 Parr claimed that the model pyramid, while it was suspended 546 00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:57,000 inside this energy field, actually became weightless, not just lighter. 547 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: It achieved zero gravity inside that bubble, and then it 548 00:27:01,759 --> 00:27:04,720 started to move on its own in a very specific direction. 549 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,319 Speaker 1: So the energy fields wasn't just a shield, it was 550 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,279 also a propulsion system. It could neutralize gravity. 551 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,319 Speaker 2: That's what he claimed. And the key, the really stunning 552 00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:16,000 part is the direction it moved. This is where the 553 00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:20,359 ancient astronaut theories slam right into hard experimental data. Okay, 554 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,640 Parr calculated the exact trajectory that this weightless pyramid would 555 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,319 shoot out on, and that vector aligned perfectly with the constellation. 556 00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: Or Ryan or Ryan. That is hugely significant. Researchers have 557 00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:34,920 argued for decades that the layout of the three GE's 558 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,519 of pyramids on the ground is a mirror image of 559 00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:39,160 the three stars in Orion's belt. 560 00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:42,039 Speaker 2: It is, and here was par in a lab with 561 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,000 a physics experiment providing a potential technical function for that alignment. 562 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,880 It wasn't just symbolic, it was operational, and this. 563 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: Led him to his grandest theory of all right, yeah, 564 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,680 the idea of hyperspace. 565 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,519 Speaker 2: Yeah. Parr speculated that the pyramid wasn't just moving through 566 00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:59,319 our normal three dimensional space. He believed it was moving 567 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,400 into hyperspace. And this connects directly to cutting edge ideas 568 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,519 like string theory, which suggests there are other spatial dimensions 569 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,000 out there that we can't perceive. 570 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,039 Speaker 1: So he thought the energy field allowed the pyramid to 571 00:28:11,079 --> 00:28:13,440 basically access these other dimensions. 572 00:28:13,519 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 2: He did so. In his view, the Great Pyramid, if 573 00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:18,839 you could figure out how to activate it, isn't just 574 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,640 a big power generator. It's a massive, fixed piece of 575 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:24,759 interdimensional technology. 576 00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:26,279 Speaker 1: A time machine or a gateway. 577 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 2: A gateway or portal into multiple dimensions, was how he 578 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,000 put it. Something that could transmit people, objects, maybe even 579 00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:36,039 just consciousness across space time. It completely reframes the pyramid. 580 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,119 It's not a tomb for a pharaoh. It's an engineering 581 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,079 marvel that can traverse the universe. 582 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:43,359 Speaker 1: But the skeptic has to ask the question that the 583 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,000 sources bring up it's the big one. If this network 584 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,759 of pyramids was so important, this piece of advanced global technology, 585 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,599 why is there not one single blueprint, not a single schematic. 586 00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: It's the ultimate archaeological mystery, isn't it. We have the machine, 587 00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:02,640 but we don't have the user's manual. The simple answer 588 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,880 is maybe the blueprints just disappeared. Maybe they were destroyed 589 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,079 to keep the technology safe, or maybe they were never 590 00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:10,839 meant to be left behind. But the sheer complexity of 591 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,119 the design, which Par's work seems to confirm, makes that 592 00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:16,680 lack of documentation incredibly suspicious. 593 00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's tie this all together. If we take 594 00:29:19,759 --> 00:29:23,200 Por's findings at face value, this anti radiation field, the 595 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,559 anti gravity of the portal to Orion, what does that 596 00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:28,359 tell us about who built the pyramids? 597 00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: The unified theory that the sources propose is that ancient 598 00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:35,319 people all over the globe built these pyramids, from Egypt 599 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,480 to South America, and they all followed a similar design, 600 00:29:38,599 --> 00:29:41,039 like a precise global network, and they were designed to 601 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,480 tap into the natural energy of the Earth. 602 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,359 Speaker 1: And the fact that the geometry is so consistent across 603 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,440 continents and oceans that suggests a single unified plant. 604 00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:53,839 Speaker 2: It does, which means whoever was guiding this global project 605 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,880 must have been an incredibly advanced. 606 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: Culture, far beyond what we attribute to the Bronze Age. 607 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: Egyptians, far beyond and so the conclusion the researchers draw 608 00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:06,559 is that this advanced culture was most likely extraterrestrials. The 609 00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:10,640 physics that pars work hence at manipulating gravity, deflecting radiation, 610 00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:15,319 interdimensional travel. That is the proof. The technology demonstrated by 611 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:17,920 the pyramids is the exact kind of technology you would 612 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,200 need to build craft that can perform the maneuvers seen 613 00:30:20,279 --> 00:30:23,359 in the STS forty eight footage or to vanish from 614 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,039 radar over Washington, d C. In nineteen fifty two. 615 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: So it connects the ancient architecture directly to the modern 616 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:29,640 cover up. 617 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: It's the missing technological link. 618 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: Wow, this has been This has been an incredibly expansive 619 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,359 deep dive. We've gone from the hopeful search for life 620 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,680 six hundred light years away all the way to an 621 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,599 alleged operational interdimensional gateway sitting right there in Giza, Egypt. 622 00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:48,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've looked at how the US government allegedly covered 623 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,319 up these incursions over its own capital, how NASA denied 624 00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:53,799 footage of its own astronauts being tracked, and how the 625 00:30:53,839 --> 00:30:56,960 Vatican classified messages that could threaten the very foundations of 626 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:57,680 human belief. 627 00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:00,079 Speaker 1: And when you lay it all out the synthes this 628 00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:03,680 seems pretty clear. The sources we've looked at consistently point 629 00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:09,119 to this systematic, cross institutional pattern of denial. The information 630 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,559 is always deemed too sensitive, too disruptive, it's technology too 631 00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:15,559 superior to be released to the rest of us. 632 00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: It's controlled instead by an elite group that seems to 633 00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:22,920 prioritize stability and the status quo over the truth. 634 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:26,319 Speaker 1: And it doesn't really matter if the motive is military fear, 635 00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:30,720 or scientific dogma, or theological risk. The common thread is 636 00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:34,799 always the containment of this idea that an extraterrestrial presence 637 00:31:34,839 --> 00:31:37,359 isn't just possible, but that it's here now and has 638 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,359 allegedly been here for thousands of years, guiding us and 639 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,559 leaving behind these incredible machines. 640 00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: Which brings us to our final question, And this is 641 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,119 for you, the listener. Based on everything we've talked about today, 642 00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:50,880 we've seen these three huge pillars of society science in 643 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,240 the form of NASA, government, the military and security agencies, 644 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,920 and religion represented by the vaticanl implicated in this alleged concealment. 645 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:04,319 Speaker 1: So here's the question. If tomorrow the full truth came out. 646 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,400 Let's say Par's physics is confirmed, the STS forty eight 647 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,279 tapes are validated, the real third Fatoma message is released everything. 648 00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:18,400 Which of those three institutions, science, government or religion do 649 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,240 you think would be the most fundamentally challenged. Which one 650 00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:24,319 would have the hardest time surviving that revelation and why? 651 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,119 Speaker 2: Would it be science which would have to tear up 652 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,559 its physics textbooks and start over. Would it be government, 653 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,240 which would be exposed for decades of lying and for 654 00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:36,279 its complete lack of military control, Or would it be 655 00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:40,319 the religious institutions which would face this potentially catastrophic crisis 656 00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:43,599 of faith and a complete rewrite of human spiritual history. 657 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,119 Speaker 1: Think about it, Which pillar has the most to lose? 658 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,599 What you're saying, Let us know what you think of 659 00:32:48,599 --> 00:32:50,559 the comments. We'd really love to hear your analysis. 660 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,559 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us on this deep 661 00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:54,960 dive into the archives and into the mysteries of our 662 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,400 past and maybe our future. 663 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,279 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.