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Also, 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,719 Happy birthday to the United States Marine Corps two hundred 14 00:00:41,719 --> 00:00:46,439 and fifty years old to day. All right, So what 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,799 did the Senate Democrats get out of the forty day 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,920 Schumer shutdown? 17 00:00:51,799 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: What do they get? What's the deal? 18 00:00:55,679 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: Well, they didn't really get anything more than they would 19 00:00:57,679 --> 00:01:02,520 have gotten a couple weeks back at October had they 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:08,519 just signed on to the clean R Continuing Resolution Chuck 21 00:01:08,519 --> 00:01:12,640 Schumer's caucus. According to Ed Morrissey at hotair dot com, 22 00:01:12,719 --> 00:01:16,000 his caucus threw in the towel last night, with at 23 00:01:16,079 --> 00:01:19,959 least ten Democrats pledging to vote to end the filibuster 24 00:01:20,079 --> 00:01:24,400 on the r The Senate will replace the cr A 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,439 with new language that would extend government operations until the 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,840 end of January while negotiations continue on the fiscal year 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:39,239 twenty twenty six budget, which I'll believe that when I 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,959 see it, it's going to be another one of these 29 00:01:41,519 --> 00:01:48,079 omnibus or minibus or whatever. Forty days ago, Schumer demanded 30 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:54,680 passage of an extension of expiring Obamacare subsidies plus repeals 31 00:01:54,799 --> 00:01:59,280 of Medicaid changes in the One Big Beautiful bill that 32 00:01:59,359 --> 00:02:05,159 eliminated coverage for legal aliens. That's what Democrats were fighting for. 33 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,039 They have stated that they denied it after they stated it, 34 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,800 and they claimed that they are not the ones that 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,919 are holding this up, but they were. The only real 36 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,360 concession in this deal from the GOP is a pledge 37 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:26,639 to rescind the layoffs that the Director of Omb Officer 38 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:31,159 Management and Budget russ vote that he started riffing people, 39 00:02:32,039 --> 00:02:35,439 he started laying people off, but those only took place 40 00:02:35,479 --> 00:02:38,879 because the government shut down, right, so. 41 00:02:40,599 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: You got the people. 42 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: To come back to work that otherwise would have been 43 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:51,159 at work had you not shut the government down. That's 44 00:02:51,199 --> 00:02:57,240 the biggest concession. Axios reports. The deal includes a December 45 00:02:57,319 --> 00:03:01,240 vote on a Democratic proposal to extend and the ACA 46 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,360 tax credits for one year. That's the Democrats proposal. This 47 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:11,360 is what they want, another one year extension of the subsidies. Well, 48 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,919 why just one year? Democrats? Why are you making its 49 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,759 sunset again? Why wouldn't you make the subsidies permanent? 50 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:22,439 Speaker 3: Right? 51 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: I mean, if everybody is going to die without the subsidies, 52 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:33,400 then it seems like you should make those permanent. But 53 00:03:33,479 --> 00:03:37,360 you're not wanting to make them permanent. You're only asking 54 00:03:37,439 --> 00:03:41,680 for one year. It's almost as if they want the 55 00:03:41,919 --> 00:03:49,240 issue for another election cycle. The problem they're going to 56 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,919 have on that is that it's going to require sixty 57 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,919 votes to pass in the Senate, and the Republicans are 58 00:03:55,919 --> 00:04:00,479 not going to pass an extension of the subsidies it 59 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,199 also includes, so they didn't get anything really on that. 60 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:07,000 That's why the left is so upset at these Democrats 61 00:04:07,039 --> 00:04:10,240 who quote caved it also. And I'll tell you who 62 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:16,839 they are. I have the list, but put Catherine Cortes 63 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:23,279 Mastio from Nevada. Interestingly, she is not up for reelection 64 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:29,399 until twenty twenty eight. Nor is Maggie Hassan from New Hampshire, 65 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:37,120 who also voted to stop the filibuster. Jane Shaheen from 66 00:04:37,199 --> 00:04:42,480 New Hampshire not running for reelection. Tim Kane from Virginia, 67 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,079 he's not up for reelection until twenty thirty. Angus King, 68 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,240 he's not up for reelection until twenty thirty. And then 69 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,480 you had the original three that had been voting to 70 00:04:55,519 --> 00:04:59,639 reopen the government with the clean CR Dick Durbin, John Fetterman, 71 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,680 and Jackie Rosen from Nevada. And that got you to 72 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,959 your sixty votes because Ran Paul voted with the Democrats 73 00:05:08,519 --> 00:05:13,040 because he votes against like every government spending bill, what 74 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:16,879 else do they get? It includes language aimed at providing 75 00:05:16,879 --> 00:05:20,519 assistance to federal employees who were laid off during the shutdown, 76 00:05:20,639 --> 00:05:23,480 as well as a provision to fund SNAP benefits through 77 00:05:23,639 --> 00:05:27,519 September thirtieth of next year. Now, the provision on SNAP 78 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,040 is the Agriculture FDA appropriation bill. They actually did an 79 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,959 appropriation bill for that, so that's not even a concession 80 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,160 that they got because it was already there. It's one 81 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,639 of the dozen bills that form the discretionary part of 82 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,800 the federal budget. That bill and two others are ready 83 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,480 for passage. When you hear people like me talking about 84 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,920 regular order. This is what we're talking about. You're supposed 85 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,639 to be running your budgets through these committees, developing the budgets, 86 00:05:58,879 --> 00:06:01,600 bringing them through the House, then going to the Senate. 87 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,759 That's the regular order. And we haven't been following that 88 00:06:06,079 --> 00:06:10,319 for gosh, I don't even know, twenty years. That's why 89 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:15,680 we end up in this constant fiscal cliff, omnibus, Cromnibus, 90 00:06:16,879 --> 00:06:22,399 clean CRS, supplemental funding requests, minibuses, whatever. It's like, all 91 00:06:22,439 --> 00:06:25,360 of these gimmicks are done because we're not following or 92 00:06:25,399 --> 00:06:28,879 Congress is not following regular order. So they were actually 93 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,519 trying to now return to regular order. And the Agriculture 94 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,680 Budget or Appropriation Bill has been done and it includes 95 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:42,680 the snap money, so that's not a concession. Senate Majority 96 00:06:42,759 --> 00:06:45,560 Leader John Thune had already put them into a so 97 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:50,879 called minibus. As for the concession on the Affordable Care Act, 98 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,560 it's not really a concession either. Donald Trump has expressed 99 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,720 concern about the impact of the expiration of the subsidies, 100 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,439 which will hit Obamacare customers like attack hike, five years 101 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:05,560 after the pandemic for which the subsidies were implemented. Trump 102 00:07:05,639 --> 00:07:09,680 and the GOP want to restrict and reduce them, and 103 00:07:09,759 --> 00:07:12,759 the White House and Republicans on Capitol Hill planned to 104 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,920 work on this regardless of what happened with the CR. 105 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,000 So that really wasn't even a big win for the 106 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,959 Democrats either, not really a concession when they were already 107 00:07:23,959 --> 00:07:26,800 planning to do it, which I guess they're going to 108 00:07:26,879 --> 00:07:32,519 have to come out against the ACA subsidies if Trump 109 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:37,680 proposes it. Right, if Trump comes along and it's like, 110 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,959 you know what we need to do these subsidies. Yes, 111 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,040 we're gonna We're gonna these are the biggest and best subsidies. 112 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:48,199 People are hurting. I'm looking out for them. And so 113 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,000 he's going to propose the subsidies. And then what a 114 00:07:50,079 --> 00:07:51,879 Democrat's going to do, They're going to agree to that. 115 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,519 Ed Morrissey at hot Air says it may infuriate conservatives 116 00:07:57,519 --> 00:08:01,360 who warned about the political trap that these temporary emergency 117 00:08:01,439 --> 00:08:05,240 subsidies created, because we were right. 118 00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:09,959 Speaker 1: We were. This is precisely why Democrats do it. 119 00:08:10,399 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: The issue of healthcare is like the fatted cath for Democrats. 120 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:21,000 For elections, they love to run on healthcare. That's why 121 00:08:21,079 --> 00:08:26,240 everything kind of gets shoehorned into healthcare like abortions, you know, 122 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,959 women's health care. They label everything healthcare because healthcare polls 123 00:08:31,959 --> 00:08:37,639 well for them. He goes on to say, Unfortunately, retiring 124 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,120 Senator Tom Tillis is correct about the political reality for 125 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,399 Republicans as the midterms approach. Tillis said, quote, if we 126 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,879 don't work on a smart glide path for the Obamacare subsidies, 127 00:08:50,399 --> 00:08:53,440 that too, will be something that will produce headwinds for 128 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:58,639 Republicans in the midterms. Right, Democrats put the subsidies in 129 00:08:58,879 --> 00:09:04,159 and they sunseted them for now in order to maximize 130 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:09,720 the damage to Republicans. That's the game they're playing. That's 131 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:13,039 why I call it the Hamas strategy. It's a PR 132 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:19,200 leverage move that puts your own people in pain in 133 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:25,120 order to extract the PR win. But just like Hamas's strategy, 134 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,360 at some point the PR doesn't win you the war, 135 00:09:29,759 --> 00:09:32,840 and you then have to cave. You have to eventually 136 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,720 agree to give back the hostages. And that's what Democrats 137 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:43,440 did yesterday. The point remains, a promise for a vote 138 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,000 at some point on the ACA subsidies is really not 139 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,919 a concession at all. That vote would have happened with 140 00:09:49,159 --> 00:09:54,360 or without the shutdown, rescinding the layoffs, maybe a concession 141 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:57,159 of some sort, but the riffs would not have happened 142 00:09:57,159 --> 00:09:58,879 in the first place had Schumer not shut down. The 143 00:09:58,919 --> 00:10:03,759 government agreement includes back pay for furloughed workers, but that's 144 00:10:03,799 --> 00:10:07,600 standard operating procedure and shutdown deals too. The fact that 145 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:11,759 Democrats couldn't even get an agreement to bypass the filibuster 146 00:10:11,919 --> 00:10:15,240 on the vote for the ACA subsidies means Schumer came 147 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:18,879 away with literally nothing at all, and that's why people 148 00:10:18,919 --> 00:10:19,879 are calling for his head. 149 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: Blue Sky is lit today. 150 00:10:24,159 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, the radical lefties over on Blue Sky. 151 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,279 They're having a moment. You know, stories are powerful. They 152 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:34,879 help us make sense of things, to understand experiences. 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He 171 00:11:38,279 --> 00:11:41,480 points out that Schumer came away with literally nothing at 172 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:46,559 all after these eight Democrats voted with the fifty two 173 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:51,720 Republicans to unlock the filibuster. To break the filibuster, now 174 00:11:51,759 --> 00:11:55,720 a vote can occur and then it'll go back over 175 00:11:55,759 --> 00:11:58,240 to the House where the Republicans have the majority, and 176 00:11:58,279 --> 00:12:01,000 a simple majority in the House will be enough to 177 00:12:01,039 --> 00:12:09,279 pass it. Democrat Representative Brendan Boyle was on MSNBC and 178 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,159 he was asked, can you explain how you interpret why 179 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,159 this deal came together now? 180 00:12:15,799 --> 00:12:17,799 Speaker 1: And Boyle said, quote, I. 181 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: Can't explain it because to be frank. To me, it 182 00:12:22,279 --> 00:12:31,360 makes absolutely no sense. I am completely perplexed by today's developments. No, 183 00:12:31,639 --> 00:12:35,879 it's pretty clear to me what happened. It's not perplexing 184 00:12:35,919 --> 00:12:44,960 at all. Schumer insisted on playing a losing hand, and 185 00:12:45,039 --> 00:12:50,919 he lost. Because it was a losing hand. They couldn't 186 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,720 even they couldn't even articulate who was shutting the government down. 187 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,720 They kept trying to blame the Republicans, but they were 188 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,519 the ones that were making extra demands. It was a 189 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,600 bipartisan vote from the jump in the in the Senate 190 00:13:07,799 --> 00:13:12,399 to pass the clean Continuing Resolution. Republicans had already offered 191 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,600 weeks ago, hey, if you want to do an Obamacare 192 00:13:15,639 --> 00:13:19,960 subsidy thing, then yeah, well we can bring that up 193 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,799 for you. But that's not going to be part of this. 194 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,320 And they're like, no, it has to be part of this, 195 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,320 and they used it for the run up to the 196 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:35,759 No King's rally because the leadership, specifically Chuck Schumer, is 197 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,720 worried about a challenge in his Senate race from his left, 198 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,320 namely AOC Alexandria. Cause this right, he's worried that the 199 00:13:45,399 --> 00:13:49,080 radical leftists have so taken over the party that in 200 00:13:49,159 --> 00:13:53,279 a Democrat primary. He's going to lose, so he has 201 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,360 to show that he can fight the Republicans. And when 202 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:01,519 they did the Continuing Resolution a couple months back, he 203 00:14:02,039 --> 00:14:06,080 did not block that with a filibuster, and he was 204 00:14:06,159 --> 00:14:11,200 pilloried for it by his own voters, and so he 205 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,879 did not want a replay of that, so he chose 206 00:14:14,919 --> 00:14:18,919 this other course. And the problem was there's no off 207 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,840 ramp for him. So then it became, well, we were 208 00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:24,639 going to show that we're fighting, and then the No 209 00:14:24,799 --> 00:14:27,960 Kings people show up and they're kind of crazy, and 210 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:30,000 so we don't want to get any of their fire. 211 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,039 Just let them hammer Trump, you know, and then like 212 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,639 keep everybody agitated through the election and the weekend after 213 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:43,879 the election. Then he allows five more members of the 214 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,919 Democrat Party in the Senate to vote with the Republicans. 215 00:14:49,159 --> 00:14:52,120 It's all very clear. I don't know why this Congressman 216 00:14:53,840 --> 00:15:00,440 Boyle seems perplexed. But then again, so many are arguments 217 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,840 are tedious like this, and that it seems like, I 218 00:15:03,879 --> 00:15:06,720 don't know, eighty percent of arguments usually include people on 219 00:15:06,759 --> 00:15:09,559 the left pretending not to understand something, so you can 220 00:15:09,639 --> 00:15:15,120 start to have the actual argument. Simone Sanders Townsend co 221 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:22,360 host at MSNBC. She tweeted out, if they don't get 222 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:26,519 anything except a promise to vote later, then how do 223 00:15:26,639 --> 00:15:29,879 Senate Democrats explain the last forty days to the people 224 00:15:29,879 --> 00:15:34,039 who have suffered? The people were supportive of Democrat efforts 225 00:15:34,039 --> 00:15:36,600 to fight for something, But what happens if the fight 226 00:15:36,759 --> 00:15:38,519 ends with nothing for the people? 227 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:50,399 Speaker 1: Oh, she's so close, she's so close to understanding it. Warmer, warmer, hot, 228 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,039 you're hot. Oh my gosh. 229 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:00,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's almost as if they weren't really fighting. It's 230 00:16:00,679 --> 00:16:05,279 almost as if they were just telling you that they 231 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,600 think you're stupid. That's what that tells you. They think 232 00:16:09,879 --> 00:16:13,120 you're dumb. 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Guy Benson at Fox News pointing out that 261 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,440 the Democrats response the air no statements are pretty wild, 262 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:05,240 aiming Republicans for not handing them another Obamacare bailout as 263 00:18:05,279 --> 00:18:10,200 a condition for ending their government shutdown. The healthcare crisis 264 00:18:10,279 --> 00:18:14,640 quote unquote that they are lamenting is one hundred percent 265 00:18:15,319 --> 00:18:20,480 their own party's policy failure. They own this, This is 266 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:26,400 all them. Stephen Miller, a writer at The Spectator, says 267 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,000 Democrats went on for three weeks about unaffordable healthcare and 268 00:18:30,079 --> 00:18:33,519 starving families, and then last night they're all upset that 269 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:38,359 people are going to get healthcare and their Snap benefits back. Also, 270 00:18:39,079 --> 00:18:45,319 Blue Sky, the lefty Twitter competitor which is like circling 271 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:54,160 the drain, is currently posting guillotine memes about Chuck Schumer. Guys, 272 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,759 if this is really about Snap benefits and starving families, 273 00:18:57,799 --> 00:19:01,079 he says, the Democratic Party and their Blue Sky influencers 274 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,720 would not be throwing a hissy fit right now if 275 00:19:05,759 --> 00:19:09,839 it really was about those things, they would not be outraged. 276 00:19:10,279 --> 00:19:13,319 Everyone knows this, and the only reason this is dragged 277 00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:15,799 out this way is because the media carried that. 278 00:19:15,799 --> 00:19:19,319 Speaker 1: Message for them. That is exactly right on the text line. 279 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,519 Speaker 2: Oscar says, with the success of the last election, the 280 00:19:22,599 --> 00:19:31,039 Democrats may do this before future elections. Indeed, sir, correct, 281 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,680 they stage this stuff so they have the healthcare issue 282 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:41,039 and they can catastrophize, scare their constituents, and animate them 283 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:48,759 and motivate them to go vote. It's supremely cynical. Steven, 284 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:51,920 Welcome to the program. Hello, Stephen, Oh. 285 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 4: Hey, pet Hey, So you were talking about how Schumer 286 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,920 was doing this to fight off an attack from the left, 287 00:20:02,279 --> 00:20:07,200 primary from the left about a Cossio Cortes. Yeah, anyway, 288 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,680 she h. This isn't going to help him because all 289 00:20:10,759 --> 00:20:14,119 this interest in lefty Democrats on Reddit are blaming him 290 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,200 one hundred percent for this, even though he voted no 291 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:18,640 on it. 292 00:20:18,759 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 5: Right. 293 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 4: See, they think he either engineered it or they think 294 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:25,759 that his ineffective leadership led to it falling apart. 295 00:20:26,279 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 5: Right. 296 00:20:26,519 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: No, you're exactly right that there are only two options. 297 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,039 He either, as you say, engineered it so he would 298 00:20:33,079 --> 00:20:36,880 have cover, or he could not keep his own members 299 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,559 in line. Either way, they don't care, it's the same outcome, 300 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,559 and they're they're there. 301 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 4: They're they're they're calling for his head on reddit Land too. 302 00:20:46,759 --> 00:20:49,319 So I don't see how this ends well for Schumer 303 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,400 either way. Not that this was, like you said, this 304 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:54,440 was a losing hand from the beginning. 305 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:57,559 Speaker 2: Right, And he had, I mean, his polling the last 306 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,480 the last polling I saw from him, and I want 307 00:21:00,519 --> 00:21:03,039 to say it was probably about three weeks ago, and 308 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:06,839 he was somewhere among Democrats. He was somewhere around seventeen 309 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,240 percent among Democrats. 310 00:21:09,559 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 4: That and that's that's the same state that just elected Mundami. 311 00:21:13,319 --> 00:21:16,119 So yeah, I think so, yeah. 312 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he may very well just announce his retirement rather 313 00:21:19,759 --> 00:21:24,519 than lose to Aksuo Cortes in a Democratic primary. 314 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,519 Speaker 4: That would definitely be the face saver for him. But yeah, 315 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,640 I appreciate your time. 316 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,519 Speaker 1: So yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. Thanks for thanks 317 00:21:31,599 --> 00:21:33,559 for trawling over reddit. 318 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,079 Speaker 2: Because I don't want to do it. 319 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:37,839 Speaker 1: It's assessful. 320 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 4: There. 321 00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:44,599 Speaker 2: Oh, then there was this from Ari Fleischer, the former 322 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,359 press secretary for George W. 323 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,079 Speaker 1: Bush. 324 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:53,519 Speaker 2: He says the debate over Obamacare's temporary subsidy on top 325 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:57,000 of a subsidy is a good example of where our 326 00:21:57,079 --> 00:22:01,000 country is today, right, because remember the subsidy that they're 327 00:22:01,039 --> 00:22:03,400 talking about is just the COVID subsidy. There was another 328 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:09,200 subsidy prior to that. Okay, some want free healthcare and 329 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,880 know if they subsidize enough middle and upper middle income 330 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,599 people to get them onto Obamacare, then private insurance will 331 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:22,400 become so expensive it withers on the vine. This has 332 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:27,920 been my belief from the outset. Obamacare is designed to 333 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:33,079 destroy the current healthcare system and turn it all into 334 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:38,559 a government run system. That's the end goal. All you 335 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:43,759 gotta do is inject the statist poison into the system 336 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,839 and just keep ratcheting it up, ratcheting it up. Others 337 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,200 believe that after you help those in poverty, that nothing 338 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,359 in life is free, including healthcare, and they think it's 339 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:04,119 reasonable for those not in poverty to pay health insurance premiums. Right, 340 00:23:04,319 --> 00:23:09,440 These are like the basic outlines of the argument, and 341 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,079 they have been from the very beginning. Free healthcare is 342 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:22,279 not free. Also, healthcare is not insurance. They are different things. 343 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,160 Free stuff for almost everyone versus everyone has to pay something. 344 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,160 That's what the fight is about. That's aorr Fleischer. And 345 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,920 then there was Tim Kaine, one of the senators, one 346 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,799 of the Democrats, who voted for Kloture, who voted to 347 00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:47,920 end the filibustering. And he makes quite the admission that 348 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,279 he's been voting no this whole time without really understanding 349 00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:54,720 the full dynamics of the issue. 350 00:23:55,279 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: This is what he said. 351 00:23:57,079 --> 00:23:58,759 Speaker 5: Do you wish that you would have started looking for 352 00:23:58,839 --> 00:24:01,480 this off fra him soon said that Republicans were never 353 00:24:01,519 --> 00:24:02,720 going to change in their position. 354 00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: I didn't fully understand how dug in they were. Again 355 00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:11,960 because I was so focused on the Virginia elections. I 356 00:24:12,079 --> 00:24:15,039 wasn't in this discussion on the healthcare to see how 357 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,200 dug in they were. But even as I was not 358 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,839 part of these discussions, I was saying to Thune and 359 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,240 others on the floor, going back, listen, I need you 360 00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:25,880 some of you heard me say this in the all. 361 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,599 I need a more attireum on mischief. Others are working 362 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,960 on the healthcare thing, I trust them. Others are working 363 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,000 on the approached thing. I trust them. I need a 364 00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:35,880 moretirem on mischief because if we vote to open and 365 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,319 then the immediate step next week is Donald Trump fires 366 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,079 a lot more people. 367 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,039 Speaker 1: It's going to blow up trust to get the full 368 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,319 year deal. See. 369 00:24:42,319 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: But the problem there is that again, the layoffs were 370 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:52,160 only done because of the shutdown, So you guys induced that, 371 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:58,160 and you were warned russ vote at Omb warned you, like, 372 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,839 if you guys shut down the guver, I'm gonna I'm 373 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,839 gonna use that as an opportunity to start doing headcount cuts. 374 00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:06,079 Speaker 3: All right. 375 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 2: If you're listening to this show, you know I try 376 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,720 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 377 00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:11,839 I know you do too, And you've probably heard me 378 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,079 say get your news from multiple sources. 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Let me 396 00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:14,839 jump over to the phone lines and chat with Jimmy. 397 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,319 Speaker 5: Hello, Jimmy, Hey, it's Jack. 398 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,559 Speaker 1: Actually, oh, Jack, just. 399 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 5: Wanted to point out to you, by the way, Pete, 400 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,640 you're doing a great job. Thanks our compliments as always. 401 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,200 But there's another aspect of this humor issue too, and 402 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,039 that is and that is the fact that he's Jewish. No, 403 00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:36,279 Lieberman left the Democrat Party because of increasing anti Israel 404 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:40,319 policies and anti semitism. Now they're in full blown anti 405 00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:43,039 semitism with ma'm Donnie and the rest of his bunch. 406 00:26:43,519 --> 00:26:46,440 So you know, yeah, Chuck time is Chuck. 407 00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:47,799 Speaker 4: Time is not right. 408 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: They welcomed, yeah, they welcomed h They welcomed these radicals 409 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,079 into the party, and now they have taked. The radicals 410 00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:58,720 have taken over the party and the yeah, the corporate 411 00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:02,240 donors and stuff, and they they're all that remains and 412 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,880 they're not enough to keep the establishment candidates around. 413 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,559 Speaker 5: Well as the as the old saying goes, you, you know, 414 00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:12,240 show the wins the whirlwind. 415 00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:16,559 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Yeah, Jack, appreciate the call. Yeah, appreciate the call. 416 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,759 Speaker 2: H it's the it's the old you know, feeding the 417 00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:21,359 alligator in the hope that it eats you last. It 418 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,680 eventually does eat you, though it's always the problem with 419 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,519 that it does eat you. So people on the Democrat 420 00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:32,599 side and the radical side, they are they're they're not 421 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,880 happy today because the government is reopening and people now 422 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,599 are not going to starve to death. Susan Glasser, staff 423 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,039 writer at The New Yorker. She writes to sum up, 424 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,119 Democrats had a strong week at the polls, the election, 425 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,480 and are ending it by agreeing to a deal that 426 00:27:52,559 --> 00:27:57,519 was in that was on offer weeks ago without anything 427 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:04,480 that they were demanding. Que the Democrat civil war. Yeah, 428 00:28:04,759 --> 00:28:07,880 but you can't call it a civil war that only 429 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,920 happens inside the Republican party. Okay, Democrats are in disarray, 430 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,200 and they're very sensitive about that branding. But that's how 431 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,039 it's always been cast. Democrats are in disarray. Republicans they're 432 00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:25,440 always in civil war. But yeah, this is this is 433 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,680 the problem. In fact, the Lincoln Project. These are the 434 00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:36,839 former Republican establishment types that broke away because they hate 435 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,720 Orange Hitler so much that they went off and started 436 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:46,039 their own Lincoln Project. And like, I still don't know 437 00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:48,920 if this is all just a grift, because it's a 438 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:53,799 brilliant grift if that's what it is. It's brilliant because 439 00:28:53,839 --> 00:29:00,359 they siphon up millions and millions of Democrat donor money 440 00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:04,920 and then they produce ads and put out you know, 441 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:11,960 memes and such that don't actually influence any elections, but 442 00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:16,160 the left loves them. The left loves them some Lincoln 443 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,839 Project stuff. And Rick Wilson is over there among others, 444 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,480 and he's just nasty, a nasty, nasty campaign consultant guy, 445 00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:30,640 formerly a Republican, now he does all this stuff anti Trump. 446 00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:36,519 And he said, the Republicans cannot believe their luck. They 447 00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:40,279 get to end the shutdown, blame it on Democrats and 448 00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:43,440 go back to the magabase and say we killed Obama 449 00:29:43,519 --> 00:29:48,799 Care at last. Yeah, they didn't kill it. It's not 450 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,200 dead yet. It's not dead yet. We had a chance, 451 00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:56,680 we had a chance. But another never Trumper, John McCain, 452 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,559 he blocked that he was the one that had the 453 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:08,680 chance to dismantle Obamacare, but he hated Trump so much 454 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,480 that he had to subject Americans to further pain, and 455 00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:17,880 so he did not vote with all the other Republicans 456 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:25,119 to kill Obamacare. Carl Paulus, historian and author, says, if 457 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,000 you notice they aren't offering any ideas on how to 458 00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:32,240 actually fix Obamacare. You notice this, It's just that we 459 00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:36,200 have to pay the subsidies otherwise people will be mad 460 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,720 at their signature policy of the twenty tens. This is 461 00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:44,000 a great point, like why are you not offering fixes 462 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,839 for Obamacare? All you're demanding is that we just throw more, 463 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,839 more and more money at it, hundreds of billions of dollars. 464 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,559 You have to understand a huge driver of Democrat politics 465 00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:03,759 today is just trying to avoid feeling dumb about everything 466 00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:08,559 they said and did during the Obama terms. They literally 467 00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:12,240 think we need more money for Obamacare, otherwise the GOP 468 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,799 will be proven right about it. They think that's a policy. 469 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: He's exactly right. 470 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: There's a fellow named Gnoam Bloom or Blum, co host 471 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,039 of a podcast called The Ambitious Crossover Attempt. He goes 472 00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:32,200 by a Twitter name of Neon Taster. I don't know 473 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,960 why but he's a pundit, and he said the blue 474 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,160 Sky crowd on the left over at blue Sky, the 475 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:44,640 social media app, they're like all fight fight, but they're 476 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:49,720 literally Their only lever was keeping the government shut down, 477 00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:54,000 and that did not work. He says, again, I'm trying 478 00:31:54,039 --> 00:31:58,039 to understand what they wanted Democrats to actually do here. 479 00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,079 Speaker 1: What could you actually do? The only. 480 00:32:03,319 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: Lever you could pull was the shutdown, and that's not 481 00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:07,319 going to get you what you want. 482 00:32:09,559 --> 00:32:10,279 Speaker 1: Let me go to the. 483 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: Text line here, driven by liberty buick GMC. This is 484 00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:19,200 from I don't know make This is from a seven 485 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,640 oh four number. Make the ingredients sugar and artificial sweeteners 486 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,079 illegal to use, and eighty five percent of people won't 487 00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:29,240 need to worry about healthcare expenses. Well, that is one 488 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:32,759 of the things, Like our healthcare costs are so high 489 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,079 in part because we make really really bad decisions about 490 00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,000 a lot of things that we put in our pile. 491 00:32:43,119 --> 00:32:46,119 This is from I don't know, another seven oh four number. 492 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,440 I think the Democrats won't make permanent subsidies for Obamacare 493 00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:53,000 is because they need a fight in the future. If 494 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,440 there's no them, then there's no reason to vote for us. Yeah, 495 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,599 that's it's the same dynamic at play with the budget fights, 496 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:08,359 with the fiscal cliff, the continuing resolutions, the Omnibus bills. Right, 497 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:11,160 these random deadlines and everything is. 498 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,759 Speaker 1: Like, oh my gosh, we're going to shut down. We're 499 00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:13,960 not going to be able to pay everybody. 500 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,519 Speaker 2: Like all of these panics are all because they have 501 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,880 designed the system to run the way it's running for 502 00:33:23,079 --> 00:33:27,319 these budget funding cycles to end as they do, and 503 00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:31,079 then it's about scheduling them to land right before an election, 504 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,319 and the deadline applies pressure that now. 505 00:33:35,119 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: You just have to vote along with them. 506 00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:38,759 Speaker 2: You've got to go along with it unless you want 507 00:33:38,759 --> 00:33:44,559 people to starve to death, and you don't want that, right, 508 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,000 This is from Daryl. A lot of people think Medicare 509 00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:49,480 is free to us over sixty five, but it's not. 510 00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:52,720 Between what is deducted from our Social Security checks and 511 00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:55,319 what we pay for an additional advantage plan. My wife 512 00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:57,599 and I pay about five hundred dollars per month. Well, 513 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:05,359 here's another thing. The average was that on average, people 514 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,800 will draw down more out of from Medicare than they 515 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:10,599 ever contributed. 516 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 1: Like that's the data. All right, that'll do it for 517 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,119 this episode. Thank you so much. 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