WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:04.040 Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the Josh and Jason Monday 2 00:00:04.120 --> 00:00:07.440 Christian and conspiracy podcast show. I am your host, Josh Monday. 3 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:10.679 If you don't know me, I'm a Christian rapper, devoted husband, father, 4 00:00:10.720 --> 00:00:13.279 an army veteran. Like they introduced you to my co host, 5 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:15.919 He's a Christian, devoted husband and father. 6 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:16.600 What's up, Jason? 7 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:17.039 How's it going? 8 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:17.920 Brother? What's up? 9 00:00:17.960 --> 00:00:18.160 Man? 10 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:21.519 And we just matched on on upland last week with 11 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:24.519 our kids, took on Saturday a very good game, man, 12 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:27.640 So I'm pretty happy. Awesome, my son's sort of touchdown, 13 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:31.440 all right, man on backfield man for like twenty hours in. 14 00:00:31.760 --> 00:00:35.520 Awesome Jason's Jason's a coach right now, and it's awesome. 15 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:37.880 I'm seeing pictures on Instagram of Jason with his son 16 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:39.679 and it just smelts my heart man. 17 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:40.479 To see that. It's amazing. 18 00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:42.240 Yeah, he's only nine, but we're trying to make him 19 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:42.880 a new man. 20 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:49.000 Alrighty early, all right, guys, we have an awesome, amazing 21 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:51.119 show for you guys today. It's going to be a 22 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:56.280 revelation roundtable and times, and we have some amazing, amazing guests. Okay, 23 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:58.960 all of them should be on Mount Crushmore. Okay, so 24 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:02.240 we have First of all, we have the author of 25 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:05.959 Genesis sixth Conspiracy. He's been on our show four times. 26 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:08.280 You guys already know him. He needs no introduction, but 27 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:10.120 he is also Mount Crushmore for sure. 28 00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:12.079 Gary, Wayne. How's it going, Gary? 29 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:15.680 Doing very well? And thank you for inviting me back 30 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:21.319 to your show and also to join such a prestigious 31 00:01:21.359 --> 00:01:25.439 and awesome set. A host, it's and guests. It's it's 32 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:26.400 gonna be fun tonight. 33 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:28.640 This is like the skull and bones of the of 34 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:32.480 the Secret Society, prestigious Yale. 35 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:33.480 No, I'm just kidding. 36 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:34.799 No, all right, guys, here we go. 37 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:38.560 So we have also second up, we have the host 38 00:01:38.599 --> 00:01:41.799 of Bible Mysteries and he is also working on a 39 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:45.000 book right now. Future author of the world. That was 40 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:47.120 Scott Mitchell. How's it going, brother. 41 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:49.599 Great to see again, Josh, thanks for having me. Great 42 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:50.480 to see you, Jason. 43 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:54.239 Yeah, going to meet you, man, I'm glad to I'm 44 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:56.560 glad to meet you. And Ryan always a pleasure to 45 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:58.319 meet She's always a pleasure to see you too. 46 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:02.159 So excited. Well, I'm I'd like to see my faces. 47 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:06.640 Like a happy yeah on all you guys. 48 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:09.599 This is awesome, all right. 49 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:12.960 So and third up, okay, guys, we have the author 50 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:15.840 of Judgment of the Nephilium, which is going to be 51 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:17.520 right here, so if you guys ever look it up 52 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:20.120 on Amazon. And then we also have his second book, 53 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:24.680 The Final Nephileume, Ryan Pitterson. He's also Mount Crushmore and 54 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:27.039 Scott Mitchell is going to be Mount Crushmore as well too. 55 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:28.520 So what's up Ryan, how's. 56 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:33.639 It going doing great? Everything's going really well, Josh Jason, 57 00:02:33.639 --> 00:02:36.599 thanks for having me back on Gary. Great to see you, Scott, 58 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:39.840 great to see you. I'm just as excited as you are, 59 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:41.360 trusting this is gonna be a lot of fun. 60 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:46.000 So I wanted to make sure I connect Ryan with Gary, 61 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:48.199 and I also want to thank you Ryan for connecting 62 00:02:48.199 --> 00:02:51.159 me with Scott. I really appreciate that, and now I 63 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:53.479 really appreciate it sious. And I wanted to connect Ryan 64 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:55.840 and Gary together because i'd like to see Gary on 65 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:58.439 your Thursday Theology show. You guys should check that out 66 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:02.840 on a YouTube and it's it's awesome. So all right, 67 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:04.639 So guys, so I want to we want to get 68 00:03:04.639 --> 00:03:06.280 in some end time stuff and I think this is 69 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:07.680 a perfect cast to get into it. 70 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:09.319 Okay, guys, we have I had. 71 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:12.599 A roundtable, you know, just a while back, like last month, 72 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:14.199 and I just I want to try to do this 73 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:17.719 once in a while, just get these all star cast 74 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:22.240 together and have them go over stuff. So because people 75 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:24.240 like myself, I mean, I try to do my best 76 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:27.280 to understand that revelation or end times and and and 77 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:28.719 you know, I try to do my best. But I 78 00:03:28.719 --> 00:03:32.159 think these guys have done some awesome, amazing research and 79 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:34.639 they're veterans in this game, and me and Jason are 80 00:03:34.719 --> 00:03:35.520 just getting our. 81 00:03:35.479 --> 00:03:36.360 Feet wet, I believe. 82 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:40.159 So I we like to go over some First of all, 83 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:44.800 I like to say the revelation. You know, the author 84 00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:48.879 of Revelation Okay, I believe personally some people would say, 85 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:49.719 like Saint John. 86 00:03:50.039 --> 00:03:52.039 I believe, you know, John is the author. 87 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:54.599 He did describe it, but I believe that Jesus Christ 88 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:57.680 is the author of this book. Okay, guys, So we'd 89 00:03:57.719 --> 00:04:00.400 like to give all glory to God obviously John. 90 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:04.759 He also says it in Revelation h. One nine through eleven. 91 00:04:04.759 --> 00:04:07.680 He says, I John, both your brother and companion, and 92 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:10.680 the tribulation and the kingdom and patience to Jesus Christ. 93 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:12.919 So basically, I think what he's saying there is he's 94 00:04:12.960 --> 00:04:15.039 a brother in Christ like like we are, okay, and 95 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:17.680 he's he's describing this book, you know, and thank you 96 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:18.920 for him doing that. 97 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:21.160 But we need to give all glory to God for this. Okay. 98 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:26.040 So first of all, guys, what is the you know, 99 00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:30.240 the next event that you guys believe is going to happen, 100 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:32.519 you know, in the end times? I mean I like 101 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:35.240 to do like a whole timeline, but what do you 102 00:04:35.319 --> 00:04:37.639 guys believe is the next event. 103 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:42.319 To happen for the church or for for for us 104 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:44.120 or for the world. We'll say it that. 105 00:04:47.839 --> 00:04:50.600 Well, I'll start with uh, well we'll start with you Scott, 106 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:57.759 since he spoke up, go ahead, what do you you know? 107 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:01.839 The world events are a clearly to me pointing to 108 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:06.000 the end times. So I think we're already starting. And 109 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:09.600 if you want to talk about the just current events 110 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:13.759 and things like that, but I guess in my mind 111 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:17.079 of the timeline, one thing that needs to take place 112 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:22.120 is rebuilding the temple in Jerusalem. And I don't know 113 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:25.519 if that has to happen before the rapture, after the 114 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:29.600 rapture for those that teach the rapture, and it certainly 115 00:05:29.639 --> 00:05:31.759 it could happen miraculously rather. 116 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:33.000 Than through conventional means. 117 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:37.879 But I see that as a key point the reunitation 118 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:42.120 of sacrifices, because that, for me, would begin the prophetic 119 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:44.360 timetable of Daniel seventieth the week. 120 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:49.600 Okay, perfect, And Gary would and Ryan would you guys? 121 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:51.399 Would you guys have anything to add to that? What 122 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:56.319 do you guys believe? Either one? Ryan, go ahead, you 123 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:56.959 could go first? 124 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:02.680 Yeah, sure, Yeah, I agree with Scott. I think definitely 125 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:05.279 the I definitely believe there will be a third Temple 126 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:09.240 and that it is basically kind of a time marker 127 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:12.319 of the seventieth week, right that that prophecy of Daniel 128 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:17.000 chapter nine is to me, it's all about temples. It's 129 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:21.560 really explaining the second Temple and the third Temple to 130 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:23.519 come in the great Tribulation that I think will be 131 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:25.560 set up really for the worship of Antichrist, for the 132 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:28.240 bombnation of desolation. So yeah, I think that has to happen. 133 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:34.480 And also, you know, you know, I'm a pre tribulation 134 00:06:34.639 --> 00:06:38.680 rapture believer. I'm pre millennial. However, I take a little 135 00:06:38.680 --> 00:06:40.639 bit of a different position on the timeline because I 136 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:44.079 believe that the first five seals of Revelation Chapter six 137 00:06:44.120 --> 00:06:49.600 have already been opened. So with that, where we see wars, 138 00:06:49.680 --> 00:06:54.079 rumors of wars, pestilence, pandemic, all those things, I believe 139 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:56.079 that those are the birth pangings Jesus spoke about in 140 00:06:56.120 --> 00:07:00.199 Matthew twenty four. And the fifth seal in particular or 141 00:07:00.759 --> 00:07:03.040 is focused on the persecution of the saints, and I 142 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:05.319 believe that's something that we see happening. We don't see 143 00:07:05.360 --> 00:07:08.360 it in America. We talk about martyrs, but we know 144 00:07:08.439 --> 00:07:13.439 that in restricted nations we're talking about North Korea, Eritrea. 145 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:15.839 There are numerous nations right now we have brothers and 146 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:19.680 sisters who are in prison, who are killed for their faith, tortured, 147 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:22.319 even though we don't experience it here yet. So I 148 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:26.120 think that as that increases, that will, I think, from 149 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:28.759 a timeline standpoint, have to ramp up to reach a 150 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:31.120 point where God says that, you know, as God tells 151 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:34.560 those martyrs under the altar, wait just a little while longer, 152 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:37.959 and then he is going to unleash his indignation and 153 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:41.680 initiate I believe the great supulation of the six sealed. 154 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:43.800 So you believe that. 155 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.959 Okay, So the first seal, guys would be like the 156 00:07:47.000 --> 00:07:49.480 white horse, right, the second would be the red horse, 157 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:54.040 the third would be the black horse, fourth would be 158 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:54.879 a pale white. 159 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:55.160 Horse, right. 160 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:59.560 So so you believe that the first five are done, right, 161 00:07:59.720 --> 00:08:03.000 so that'd be the four horsemen right, based of the apocalypse. 162 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:06.240 And then the fifth seal is soul's crying from the altar, 163 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:09.160 So you believe that that that one has already happened 164 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:09.639 as well? 165 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:11.879 Yeah, well, because that that's when you look at the 166 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:15.360 fifth seal, that's the one seal that's linked to time. 167 00:08:15.839 --> 00:08:16.160 Yeah. 168 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:20.480 The martyrs ask God, how much longer? How much longer 169 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:23.560 until you avenge us? So they're asking God, when are 170 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:25.959 you going to finally judge the earth? So it's all 171 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:29.800 time based and God tells them until the number of 172 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:32.919 your fellow servants is fulfilled. So I read that as 173 00:08:32.919 --> 00:08:35.120 God saying that God has a number. I feel that 174 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.360 God is always God always has a threshold, right. 175 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:39.919 And it's a gentile like like like there's there's there's 176 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:42.240 a like a gentile that a number of the gentiles 177 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:46.120 have to be saved before Jesus comes back as well? 178 00:08:46.159 --> 00:08:47.320 Could that be as well? 179 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:49.360 Or I actually believe it's a number of Christians who 180 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:51.799 have to be killed. Yeah, what he's saying is that 181 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:55.080 the number of being fulfilled is the number of martyrs marty. 182 00:08:55.200 --> 00:08:58.440 I agree. Last, there's a number that God has in 183 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.559 God saying it's almost like when God told Abraham about 184 00:09:01.600 --> 00:09:04.159 the Amalekites that in the fourth generation he'll judge them. 185 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:06.600 That God knows he has thresholds sodom and goodmore, their 186 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:08.799 sins were crying out to Heaven that God had to 187 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:10.840 come down once their sins got so high that God 188 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:13.519 so that I believe also that God's telling those martyrs. 189 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:17.399 Once the number I have of martyrs is reached in 190 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:20.159 the church, then I will initiate the judgment. 191 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:25.039 M Well, I have a question, Uh can I Well, 192 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:27.080 let let me have Gary do that real quick. Jason, 193 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:28.440 before you asked that question. 194 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:32.759 I won't be quick. So he's got a quick question 195 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:33.639 to let him in, but. 196 00:09:35.759 --> 00:09:36.840 My question might take a while. 197 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:39.720 I don't. Yeah, let's let's uh what just how Gary 198 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:41.480 go over that first so we can see where they're at, 199 00:09:41.559 --> 00:09:43.679 you know, and go ahead, Gary. 200 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:46.919 Well, yeah, a lot of good stuff covered there, I 201 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:49.639 would say from my perspective and it's going to be 202 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:51.759 a little bit different in a few areas, I think, 203 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:56.440 But that's the fun of eschatology is is exchanging ideas 204 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:59.399 and trying to get things a little bit closer to 205 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:02.200 to what sort of makes sense. And so I definitely 206 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:05.399 think we're in the fig tree generation, and I definitely 207 00:10:05.440 --> 00:10:08.240 think that we're in the beginning of sorrows. I don't 208 00:10:08.279 --> 00:10:14.440 believe we're quite yet at the seal openings yet, because 209 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:19.759 the beginning of sorrows are the four catastrophes that are listed. 210 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:23.200 I think everybody knows that, but for the audience, it's earthquakes, 211 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:28.159 it's wars and rumors of wars. It's pestilence, and it's famine, 212 00:10:28.240 --> 00:10:32.799 and they get stronger as those birth pangs unfold, and 213 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:35.759 we'll get stronger. So I think we're seeing those birth 214 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:39.159 PAGs today. We have some pestilence. We're starting to see 215 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:42.279 some of the wars and the rumors of wars, as 216 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:45.639 we see a jockeying of position for the world government 217 00:10:45.759 --> 00:10:49.000 or the ten king empires that are setting up. We're 218 00:10:49.000 --> 00:10:51.759 seeing that with the Ukraine War, we see that was 219 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:54.840 trying to get his empire going. We're going to see 220 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:59.480 more of that. So as we move forward, did you 221 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:02.039 get into the Book of Revelations and the seals, you 222 00:11:02.080 --> 00:11:07.720 get a twenty five percent destruction rate, kill rate of everything. 223 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:11.600 And we're not there yet. We haven't seen that. I 224 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:15.399 think we're in. And those are the same catastrophes, by 225 00:11:15.440 --> 00:11:18.840 the way, that are in the Sorrows, just as it's 226 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.840 the same catastrophes and the trumps that are thirty three percent, 227 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:26.840 and then in the bolts of wrath that would be 228 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:31.840 one hundred percent if Jesus didn't step in beforehand. So 229 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:35.440 having said that, then what would be the next event? 230 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.720 Which was the question that was being posed. And I 231 00:11:39.759 --> 00:11:45.159 would say that to have the sacrifice to begin on 232 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:49.000 an extremity, an overspreading, or a wing of the temple, 233 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:52.039 depending on which translation that you're looking at, you're going 234 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:55.840 to need something extraordinary to happen. So that's essential for 235 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:58.919 the start of the last seven years. But I think 236 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.759 you have to have world government, and I think you 237 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:04.559 have to have and the world government is in the 238 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:07.840 ten king Empires show up. And I think you need 239 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:12.440 a religion that's universal that's not Muslim, because Muslims under 240 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:16.039 any conditions aren't going to permit the people of Judah 241 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:19.039 to do their sacrifice on the temple. But this is 242 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:20.840 going to be on a wing of the temple by 243 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:22.600 the sounds of it, So it could be an extension 244 00:12:22.639 --> 00:12:26.000 that's closer to the edge of the valley in between 245 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:29.679 the two mountains there where Josephas actually locates the temple. 246 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:31.200 So there might be a wing that's put on. But 247 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:34.519 you need that universal religion, and we need to see 248 00:12:34.559 --> 00:12:37.279 that happen sooner, and so we're going to see an 249 00:12:37.320 --> 00:12:40.679 increase in tribulation as we go through this. So just 250 00:12:40.759 --> 00:12:45.960 as Revelation two eight to ten talks about ten days 251 00:12:45.960 --> 00:12:51.039 of tribulation, we're going to see that tribulation wrap up. 252 00:12:51.080 --> 00:12:55.159 If that's the same prophetic allegory as the week of years, 253 00:12:56.519 --> 00:13:01.080 then those are ten years of tribulation. And if you 254 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:04.000 look at that word of fliction that happens in Matthew 255 00:13:04.519 --> 00:13:08.519 twenty four, verse eight, I think it is you have 256 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:11.120 the word of fliction there that goes back to the 257 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:14.759 Greek word philippies, and it's the same word that's use 258 00:13:14.840 --> 00:13:19.360 for tribulation both in Revelation later in the second half 259 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:23.000 of the Oration by Jesus, and then it flips around 260 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:27.279 between Mark and Matthew, where Mark will call affliction the 261 00:13:27.320 --> 00:13:31.840 great tribulation and Matthew will call it the tribulation or 262 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:34.320 the great tribulation. They all go back to that Greek 263 00:13:34.320 --> 00:13:37.519 word philippies. And so you have a tribulation that's going 264 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:41.120 to happen before the last seven years if we add 265 00:13:42.320 --> 00:13:47.320 or subtract. If we take ten years and tract seven, 266 00:13:47.360 --> 00:13:49.559 you get three years. So three years before I think 267 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:53.000 you'll have a tribulation that is happening between the time 268 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:56.519 of the opening of the seals to the time of 269 00:13:56.919 --> 00:13:59.720 the first fruits that are fulfilled, which are the martyrs 270 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.000 matches up in Revelation seven is the completion of that. 271 00:14:03.759 --> 00:14:07.799 And so we're just sort of getting into that, is 272 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:10.559 what I'm saying. We're starting to see those things shape 273 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:14.879 up on the horizon. And so I have a little 274 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:17.600 bit different approach in terms of how I come about 275 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:21.840 my perspective on things. But I do put everything around 276 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:25.960 what Jesus said, because he is his testimony is the 277 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:30.159 spirit of prophecy, and he's the Word of God. So 278 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:31.799 that's where I like to start. 279 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:35.600 Speaking of prophecy. They say two hundred and fifty thousand 280 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:38.159 words of the Bible. There's seven hundred fifty thousand words 281 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:40.240 I guess somewhere around there. Don't don't quote me, but 282 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:43.559 two hundred and fifty thousand of them are prophecy guys. 283 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:44.480 So this is important. 284 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:46.639 So I think the Book of Revelation is something that 285 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:50.000 might get neglected a lot by some people and pastors 286 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.360 because they're scared, maybe scared to teach it, they want 287 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:54.000 to teach the grace auction. But I think this is 288 00:14:54.039 --> 00:14:58.399 super important for people to understand. So okay, so all right, 289 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:01.120 so after okay, so when do you guys believe like 290 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:02.480 the rapture would happen. 291 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:04.200 In that time? Oh, Jason, I'm sorry, Jason, you had 292 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:05.279 a question. I don't want to Yeah. 293 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:09.919 Yeah, Well my my question was everyone's talking about Jesus 294 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:13.000 and what he's talking about. Mine is about the churches. 295 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:16.360 So there's seven churches mentioned. I want to want My 296 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:19.279 question was anyone wants to answer, is why those seven 297 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:23.399 churches at that time? Because there was numerous churches talked about. 298 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:26.480 There's numerous churches that were that were actually at that time, 299 00:15:27.120 --> 00:15:31.320 but he picked those seven specific ones and gave him 300 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:35.000 promises and and and warnings, and he also gave you know, 301 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:39.759 some of them, some of them were were were bad 302 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:41.440 and some of and some of them were good. And 303 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:43.639 then some of them, you know, thought they were doing well, 304 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:46.720 but and some of them are doing that well. But 305 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:49.240 my question is why those seven churches if anybody wants 306 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:52.159 to can answer that, if anybody could give a you know, 307 00:15:52.240 --> 00:15:52.879 insight on that. 308 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.360 You know what interesting thing about those seven churches is 309 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:03.080 historically they're all located in what we would call western 310 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:06.799 Turkey today, but it was Asia Asia Minor at the time. 311 00:16:07.799 --> 00:16:12.360 And I always found it interesting that that was one 312 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:16.000 of the regions that Paul the Apostle was forbidden by 313 00:16:16.039 --> 00:16:18.720 the Holy Spirit to go to at first. He later 314 00:16:18.759 --> 00:16:21.200 on established a church at Ephesus, which was one of 315 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:24.840 those seven, you know, and there was another one too, 316 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:29.000 and he mentioned aloud to see it. But I do 317 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:35.320 sort of ascribe those churches to the ages of the Church. 318 00:16:36.320 --> 00:16:38.399 I do think there's some validity to that. I don't 319 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:41.159 know if I'm a hard fast stickler to that, And 320 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:44.120 I would say that the last church was allowed to 321 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:46.240 see you, and that we're probably in the allowed to 322 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:49.360 see an age when Christ said that you're lukewarm, I'll 323 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:51.519 spew you out of my mouth. I think the church 324 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:53.200 goes out with a whimper, not a bang. 325 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:54.200 You know. 326 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:58.080 I think we just stopped being what God needs us 327 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:01.039 to be. And He's got one hundred and forty four 328 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:03.480 thousand ready to step in to do the job that 329 00:17:03.600 --> 00:17:06.839 Israel's going to need done during the time of Jacob's trouble. 330 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:10.119 Interesting and Ryan, yeah. 331 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:13.480 I agree. I agree with Scott's interpretation. And again, when 332 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:16.559 you think about Revelation, you know you mentioned Josh that 333 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:20.240 Jesus Christ of course is the author. It's also the 334 00:17:20.279 --> 00:17:23.640 only book that's written outside of time. Right. John has 335 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:26.039 brought in the Spirit into heaven, so he is outside 336 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:27.599 of time, and Jesus tells him, I'm going to show 337 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:29.960 you what has been, what is, and what shall come. 338 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:34.119 So I believe so much Revelation deals with time and 339 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:36.599 different errors of time. So I think even with the 340 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:40.279 seven Churches, it's speaking of the Church through time and 341 00:17:40.440 --> 00:17:42.599 each church representing a different age. And I do believe 342 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:45.960 also with that the final Age is the loot seeing 343 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:49.440 age that we are in, you know that that we're in, 344 00:17:49.559 --> 00:17:55.359 and and the you know the the The interesting thing 345 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:59.799 about the rebuke of that church is that it's not 346 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:04.200 so much at church. That's our rebellious church. It's a 347 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:08.359 church that's just that's diluted, right. I think that they're rich, 348 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:11.240 they think they got all figured out. We're doing awesome, 349 00:18:11.240 --> 00:18:14.000 we're doing great work for God. But you say, no, 350 00:18:14.079 --> 00:18:17.279 you're wretched, you're naked and so uh so. And I 351 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:19.839 think that we see a lot of that kind of 352 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:21.920 empty religion today and society. 353 00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:25.519 Unfortunately, that could be we'll let Gary answer next, but 354 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:27.079 that could be like heath. 355 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:30.519 The nice Christianity right well. 356 00:18:30.960 --> 00:18:32.759 Or just watered down christian. 357 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:34.759 Yeah, that's what I would. I would. I was gonna 358 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:35.119 say so. 359 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:37.720 But when you heath the nie Christianity, you really go 360 00:18:37.920 --> 00:18:41.559 for the idol worship. You're going for other stuff and 361 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.400 then you kind of you're making God an energy or 362 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:45.720 something that's that. 363 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:46.279 That's the new age. 364 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:49.000 That's you make them work for you, and you, you know, 365 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:51.960 you make them something that's like, hey, I wish can 366 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:53.960 you please please give me this game that you're like 367 00:18:54.240 --> 00:18:55.880 in It doesn't matter. 368 00:18:56.160 --> 00:18:59.119 But now the church, I believe, but I believe maybe 369 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.160 the you know, because a lot of people are there there, 370 00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:03.960 the churches are not. Sometimes I believe I'm not going 371 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:06.359 to talk about that about churches, but maybe sometimes we're 372 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:07.240 not teaching. 373 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:08.680 The meat so much, you know. 374 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:11.440 And and I think a lot of the people are believing, 375 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:14.720 like hey, uh, maybe they're just thinking the raptures next 376 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:16.599 and they're just depending on that. So maybe they're not 377 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:18.720 they're they're they're just thinking it's all about grace. But 378 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:21.960 they're they're forgetting about you know. Uh that James says 379 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:25.319 that faith without works is dead, right, So uh, it's 380 00:19:25.359 --> 00:19:26.039 just interesting. 381 00:19:26.079 --> 00:19:28.519 I think that when when you're talking about I. 382 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:30.799 Was speaking of inquisitions, like like back in the day, 383 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:34.119 when you'd force people to follow your religion, you start 384 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:36.759 to get you start to get a heathenized Christianity. You're 385 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:38.880 just making them force them and they're they're they're taking 386 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:42.400 their paganism and bringing it into Christianity. And I'm saying, like, 387 00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:45.240 that's that's what I mean, Like that, Yeah, you get 388 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:48.039 like a water down on the wine of everything, and yeah, 389 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:48.200 I do. 390 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:49.519 That's just it's the same thing. 391 00:19:49.519 --> 00:19:51.720 But I'm just I was talking about like I was 392 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:53.519 trying to get in that involved in that. But yeah, 393 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:55.799 the timeline, I I agree with that, the timeline through 394 00:19:56.359 --> 00:19:59.720 through the churches. I just feel also that the qualities 395 00:19:59.720 --> 00:20:03.240 of these everything that's mentioned by Jesus that's explains these churches. 396 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:06.480 It's like equalities in each one of our religions or 397 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:09.279 religions that are today, Like there's a quality like a 398 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:13.160 really each that's spoken to. There's a quality of in 399 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:16.000 each religion or each or each church. 400 00:20:16.599 --> 00:20:17.519 Yeah, each church. That's fun. 401 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:20.200 So okay, and Gary, do you have anything to add 402 00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:21.359 to that about the seven churches? 403 00:20:21.359 --> 00:20:24.559 Oh? Yeah, yeah, let's go. 404 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:25.839 Yeah. 405 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:28.200 Yeah, I mean, and it's going to be similar to 406 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:32.279 what's been said, but I would put it in in 407 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:36.039 this sort of way that it is all three in 408 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:39.319 my in my perspective, including what Jason added at the end. 409 00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:42.400 So what we do know in John's vision is is 410 00:20:42.440 --> 00:20:46.680 that he that Jesus is sending or having John send 411 00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:49.599 these letters to the seven churches that were at that time. 412 00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:52.839 So they were physical churches, and those would have been 413 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:56.279 by the text the traits of the churches at that time, 414 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:00.279 and they're instructing them to be better churches. Is sort 415 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:02.920 of the idea, but it's also prophetic, right, This is 416 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:06.319 a prophecy, And so I agree with that those are 417 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:09.240 the church ages, and I believe we're in the lattice 418 00:21:09.400 --> 00:21:13.559 in church probably now, and that church is being well 419 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:20.119 prepared to be totally converted over to the universal polytheist 420 00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:23.759 religion of Babylon that's going to be coming. And I 421 00:21:23.759 --> 00:21:26.960 would also agree with what Jason said is that those 422 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:30.559 churches are all traits of churches that are out there today. 423 00:21:30.960 --> 00:21:34.720 So I think it is a prophecy that sort of 424 00:21:34.759 --> 00:21:37.519 makes sense. It's almost like a triple It's a dual 425 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:42.160 prophecy on top of an existing set of circumstances that 426 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:44.799 are being used that's going to be meaningful all through 427 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:47.720 the age of the church. So yeah, I think it's 428 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:51.480 all of that, and that this is indeed a church 429 00:21:51.599 --> 00:21:54.880 that is looking more and more polytheist all of the time, 430 00:21:56.200 --> 00:22:00.400 and that it is going to be a branch of 431 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:04.720 that ancient religion that was re established at Babel after 432 00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:05.240 the flood. 433 00:22:05.440 --> 00:22:07.799 What church nowadays do you think that it's that? That 434 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:09.160 would it would compare two? 435 00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:12.160 What would you compare that one of those churches nowadays 436 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:14.960 that you would think of that that's around right now. 437 00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:19.599 Well, I think it's the old polytheist religion of gnosticism. 438 00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:22.920 I think it's the Inenochian mysticism from before the flood 439 00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:29.880 that paraded with the Nephalim the Antidiluvian world into destruction. 440 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:32.920 I think that's the same religion that crosses the flood 441 00:22:33.279 --> 00:22:37.839 and is first restarted in a significant way with humanity 442 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:42.920 at Babel under an anti Christ archetypical type figure for 443 00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:47.279 the post Alluvian world, who forces it on the religion religion, 444 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:52.640 the religion on everybody there, or suffered death if they don't. 445 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:56.640 And I think that that is why we get Babylon, 446 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:01.440 which is rooted in the Hebrew word Babel, to give 447 00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:07.319 us that allegory for that mystical religion that is, you know, 448 00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.200 filled with knowledge as a gnostic cult gnosis, it has 449 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:15.880 degrees initiations, and the whole language of Babylon in Revelation 450 00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:21.279 seventeen is aspiring a polytheus mystical religion that was part 451 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:24.640 of the hierarchical structure of the Beast empires all the 452 00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:25.559 way through history. 453 00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:27.480 Awesome. 454 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:27.720 Yeah. 455 00:23:27.759 --> 00:23:30.119 And in that verse as well, what's important is also 456 00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:34.079 Jesus Christ is talking to John and he says, I 457 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:36.640 am the alpha omega, the first and the last, you know, 458 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:39.640 the beginning and the end. So I think it's it's 459 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:43.400 just it's showing you that Jesus Christ is God. Right, 460 00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:45.319 So it's like, I think it's very important also in 461 00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.680 that verse that before they you know, it's just amazing 462 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:50.240 that part right there. It just it's just stood out 463 00:23:50.279 --> 00:23:52.599 to me. So all right, so we went over the 464 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.119 seven Churches with Jason. I'm glad you brought up that's important. 465 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:01.160 So next, now, I believe that the the Third Temple 466 00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:02.079 almost got built. 467 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:03.519 I think when Trump was in presidency. 468 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:07.519 I believe that Jared Kushner was over there trying to 469 00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:10.400 Actually I thought the Third Temple was going to come 470 00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:12.000 sooner than later, you know, I think they were trying 471 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:12.680 to work out a deal. 472 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:14.160 So it kind of got interesting. 473 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:18.839 But so after that, after that happens, you guys believe 474 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:21.279 that the rapture would be next after the Third Temple? 475 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:23.720 Or where do you guys place the rapture like pre 476 00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:28.599 mid or post? I would ask Gary, you could go 477 00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:29.200 first if you. 478 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:34.400 Like, Yeah, I'm mid to too shortly thereafter, okay, And 479 00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:40.160 everybody's going to use scripture to come by their position. 480 00:24:40.359 --> 00:24:42.759 But that's where I would fit it. I would look 481 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:46.680 at it as the tribulations, and there are several couple 482 00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:48.640 of tribulations we need to be aware of the one 483 00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:52.079 that was possibly three years before the last seven. I 484 00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:54.599 think you have the tribulation that is going to happen 485 00:24:54.640 --> 00:25:00.839 of the saints that happens between Jesus or a in 486 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:05.519 terms of the birth of the beginning of sorrows to 487 00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:08.880 the middle of the seven year marker that he marks 488 00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:12.640 with the abomination in that word. As I said, affliction 489 00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:15.960 goes back to Filiples's tribulation. And those are the ones 490 00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:18.160 that are being martyred that are going to show up 491 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:21.519 in Revelation seven, the ones that in Revelation six are 492 00:25:21.559 --> 00:25:25.240 being told to wait for, and these are This is 493 00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:29.640 part of the whole setup for the resurrection sequence where 494 00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:34.200 you have Christ the first fruits, and then when Jesus comes, 495 00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:39.400 those who are still alive and those who are asleep 496 00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:42.440 in Jesus. So the ones who are asleep died in faith, 497 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:46.079 but not the martyrs, because Revelation seven are the saints 498 00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:49.640 that died like the martyrs in Revelation six. And we 499 00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:52.000 see the first fruits, the last of the first fruits, 500 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:55.480 and by implication, the one hundred and forty four thousand 501 00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:58.599 that show up in Revelation seven are called first fruits, 502 00:25:58.640 --> 00:26:01.160 and by implication they're in Hea. We're not told they 503 00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:03.839 were slain, but their first fruits, which is that implication 504 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:08.440 for the resurrection sequence. And then we get after that, 505 00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:10.640 you get a summary of the last three and a 506 00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:15.640 half years in Revelation fourteen, where you get the mark 507 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.000 of the Beast and then the fall of Babylon, and 508 00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:21.519 then you have Antichrice setting up his new religion for 509 00:26:21.680 --> 00:26:24.400 the for the last three and a half years. So 510 00:26:24.559 --> 00:26:30.039 I would look at that rapture coming as Jesus predicts 511 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.279 it in the second half after the abomination with his sign. 512 00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:35.839 And I know a lot of people view what Jesus 513 00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:41.920 said as being more topical than chronological, and it's a 514 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:46.440 persuasive argument. But if you take the word then back 515 00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:49.319 to Greek, it's the Greek word toad, and it means 516 00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:52.839 at that time and when then, And so he's very 517 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:57.400 clearly laying out his language that's being scribed down into 518 00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:02.640 Greek from probably Hebrew or Ara America or both that 519 00:27:02.680 --> 00:27:05.680 he might have been speaking at that time. He's clearly 520 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:10.559 delineating a chronology set of events. And so I take 521 00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:13.640 my guidance from all of that. And I know a 522 00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:16.599 lot of people will say, well, also the Holy Spirit 523 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.880 will have to be removed while the Holy Spirit is 524 00:27:21.880 --> 00:27:25.559 still testifying for those people going through that tribulation in 525 00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:27.680 the first three and a half years as the Book 526 00:27:27.680 --> 00:27:32.920 of Marx description of Jesus or accounting of Jesus' words 527 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:36.519 are told, and then again in the Book of Luke. 528 00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:39.880 So it's talking about the Holy Spirit giving the knowledge 529 00:27:39.920 --> 00:27:43.440 for those saints to testify. And that's after the beginning 530 00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:46.359 of the sorrows, but before the abomination. 531 00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:49.079 And Ryan, what do you think? 532 00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:55.440 So so yeah, So picking up what Garius about Matthew 533 00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:59.079 twenty four, right, that Jesus is describing things in chronological order, 534 00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:01.200 I definitely agree with that. And in fact, when you get 535 00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:05.160 to Revelation, from Revelation five to chapter twenty two, every 536 00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:07.519 chapter begins at the word ends, right, So it's again 537 00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:10.519 I believe Revelation is also in sequence right. And so 538 00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:13.599 looking at the description in Matthew twenty four of the 539 00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:18.079 events wars, rumors of wars, earthquakes is following, it's tracking 540 00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:21.200 right with the first four seals, right, and then Jesus 541 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.839 then they shall turn you over to be killed the martyrdom, right, 542 00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.359 So it's going in the exact order of the seals. 543 00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:29.279 And what I see again, because I see the rapture 544 00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:36.160 at the sixth Seal, Jesus highlights several things, an earthquake, 545 00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:41.160 the sun turning dark, the moon not giving its light. Right, 546 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:46.559 and we see those things. At the sixth seal. You 547 00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:48.839 have the blood moon. The moon turns to blood, the 548 00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:51.200 sun turns black as sackcloth. And then you have this 549 00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:53.920 massive global earthquake. And this is when all the kings, 550 00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:56.920 the mighty people, the chief people, everyone knows on earth, 551 00:28:57.160 --> 00:29:01.279 non believers, no, they say Hi, from the wrath of Him, 552 00:29:01.720 --> 00:29:03.599 the citizen, the throne, the face of the face of Him, 553 00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:05.200 the sym the throne, the lamb, for the day of 554 00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:07.079 his wrath has come, and who's able to stand? So 555 00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:13.559 everybody knows God is now intervening in world affairs. He's real, 556 00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:16.480 he's here, he is judging. I believe that is the start. 557 00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:19.200 And of course that conocide with Joel two thirty one 558 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:21.519 prophets as an exact thing, the sun shall turn dark, 559 00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:22.599 the moon shall turn to blood. 560 00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:25.599 Yeah, that's right. 561 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:27.920 And so and I think that's the term. The common 562 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:30.440 Old Testament term for the Great Tribulation is the day 563 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:32.759 of the Lord. She's twenty four times in the Old Testament. 564 00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:38.640 So I believe that is when the rapture takes place. 565 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:41.119 And I believe that's the start of you know, the 566 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:43.720 day of the Lord slash Great Tribulation, whatever term you 567 00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:46.240 want to give it at the same time. And again 568 00:29:46.279 --> 00:29:48.640 that's the end of chapter six. And then as you 569 00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:50.519 get to chapter seven, when you see you see, of 570 00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:53.039 course the ceiling of the one hundred and forty four thousand, 571 00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:58.000 and then you have this multitude of all you know, 572 00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:02.720 racist tribes, ethnicities call appearing before the throne, standing before 573 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:04.680 the Throne of God. And I believe that's actually the 574 00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:06.960 raptured Church, just as these are they who have come 575 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.960 out of their tribulation. They have washed their robes, and 576 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:13.640 so I believe that is actually the raptured Church in heaven. 577 00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:16.920 And that's the end of chapter seven. And then when 578 00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:18.720 you get to chapter eight, I think this is where 579 00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:21.200 you start seeing how the events play out again on 580 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:25.839 Earth in the Great Stipulation, because you have now we've 581 00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:29.599 gone from this from the the the seals to the trumpets, 582 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:33.119 and you have this mighty angel standing at the altar 583 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:35.200 with the censer, and I believe this is Jesus right, 584 00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:37.400 this is what in the role of the high priest. 585 00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:41.640 That's it's basically repeating what the high priests did on earth. 586 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:45.240 Aaron with a censer before the altar and cast these 587 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:49.759 you know, stone the coals, burning coals to earth. And 588 00:30:50.519 --> 00:30:58.119 I believe that actually is coinciding with the war of 589 00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:02.240 God Maydok and so so. I believe you look at 590 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:05.519 God Magog's Zego thirty eight Ego thirty nine, that you're 591 00:31:05.599 --> 00:31:09.240 just getting two battles are being described in reverse order. 592 00:31:09.680 --> 00:31:12.400 I believe that the segu thirty is actually describing the 593 00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:16.079 post millennial final strike by Satan that we see in 594 00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:18.640 Revelation chapter twenty when it says that he surrounds the 595 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:20.680 Holy City and God sends fire from heaven. It says, 596 00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:22.599 and gathers from all four corners of the earth Gog 597 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.319 and Magog. I believe that's at the end of the 598 00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.559 millennial reign of Christ, that final attack. But chapter thirty nine, 599 00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:32.640 I believe it is describing attack at the start of 600 00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:35.400 the Great Tribulation. And when you look at the judgment, 601 00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:41.599 it's the judgment of God Magog's army. They are destroyed 602 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.200 by fire and brimstone mingled with blood, which is exactly 603 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.720 what you see in Revelation chapter eight. And so I 604 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:52.319 believe that's where this is kind of how the timeline goes. 605 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:55.559 And I believe out of that war we see the 606 00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.039 emergence of the anti Christ. And I wouldn't even and 607 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:01.640 I even think, you know, and this is more conjecture 608 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:05.759 that the Antichrist might even claim the victory is his 609 00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:10.119 victory over this coalition trying to attract attack Israel, and 610 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.000 he will step in and present himself as Israel's savior 611 00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:16.519 and then initiate the deception of Israel to make himself 612 00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:19.160 obviously present himself as their false messiahs. So that's kind 613 00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:22.400 of how I see the events picking up. 614 00:32:23.039 --> 00:32:25.799 That's that's when he makes that peace. Okay, So all right, 615 00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:26.720 and Scott. 616 00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.279 Yeah, I'm very much in line with Ryan on just 617 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:33.720 about everything he said, and he's much more. 618 00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:36.880 Learning about that than I am. 619 00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.160 But I take one bit of a difference from a 620 00:32:40.160 --> 00:32:42.480 lot of preachers that I know over the years that 621 00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:48.000 I've been preaching, and that is I see Christ's earthly 622 00:32:48.079 --> 00:32:52.440 ministry as focused to Israel. He was offering a national 623 00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:56.599 salvation program which was rejected by the nation, and so 624 00:32:57.920 --> 00:32:59.480 it was a mystery that he would die for the 625 00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:03.200 sense of all mankind. But he was there offering the 626 00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:06.519 kingdom of heaven is in hand. So they rejected that kingdom, 627 00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:08.839 and it went into sort of a mystery form. Hence 628 00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:11.000 he started speaking in parables. 629 00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:10.960 You know. 630 00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:16.319 And then once he was crucified and raised again, it's 631 00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:19.079 almost like he said in the parable of the fig tree, 632 00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.759 let's dig it and dounge it about for this year also, 633 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.200 and if it bears fruit, well, if not cut it down, 634 00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:27.279 well it got cut down. That was the last attempt 635 00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:30.920 to call the nation to repentance from that point forward 636 00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:33.000 to me at the end at really, I think it 637 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:36.000 would be timed with the death of Stephen the Martyr. 638 00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.799 That's when they were cut off and the fulfillment of 639 00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:44.480 Hosea took place. Or not my people, And in Joseah 640 00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:46.839 chapter five says I'll go return to my place verse 641 00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:50.119 fifteen until they acknowledge their offense and seek my face. 642 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:51.759 And so I. 643 00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:55.519 Would argue that this age we live in now, call 644 00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:59.240 it what you want, dispensation of grace, whatever has been 645 00:33:59.319 --> 00:34:00.000 focused on. 646 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:05.799 All mankind, not the nation. And so when you come 647 00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.760 back around to whenever Gog and Mega, that's another thing 648 00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:10.559 I should have mentioned earlier. What's the next thing that 649 00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:11.199 needs to happen. 650 00:34:11.199 --> 00:34:14.119 Well, that's got to be factored into that mix too, right, 651 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.440 that battle that Ryan spoke of, so to me. When 652 00:34:19.519 --> 00:34:22.800 the Book of Revelation begins with John being carried up 653 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:27.239 in the spirit to the third Heaven, he writes what 654 00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:30.800 he sees in heaven there and he lists the four Beasts, 655 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:34.960 the twenty four Elders, the Father on the throne, and 656 00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.079 then he sees the Lamb. And then at some point 657 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:42.800 in Jena's Revelation rather chapter seven, his attention is focused 658 00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:44.960 back on the earth as the one hundred and forty 659 00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:48.440 four thousand are being sealed, and because it even says 660 00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:50.320 to the four angels on the four corners of the earth, 661 00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.360 don't hurt the earth until we've sealed them. And then 662 00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:57.000 when he directs his attention back it's that mixed multitude 663 00:34:57.039 --> 00:34:59.840 that Ryan mentioned of all of kindred nations and tough 664 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:04.719 that's the Church's I believe they got raptured out while 665 00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:06.800 he was counting the one hundred and forty four thousand 666 00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:09.000 or something, and they went up and he's like, what 667 00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:09.239 are you? 668 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:11.079 Where'd you guys come from. He didn't even know. 669 00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:13.400 One of them says who are these and he says, 670 00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:15.960 you know, I don't know, And so sure enough he 671 00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.440 tells him they came through great tribulation. And I don't 672 00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:21.039 think he means they went through the time of Jacob's trouble. 673 00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.519 The Church has been in tribulation since two thousand years now. 674 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:27.920 You know, it's been in tribulation and it hasn't stopped, 675 00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.480 depending on where you are in the world. So I 676 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:34.559 would argue a pre tribulation rapture somewhere to the point 677 00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.960 before the wrath begins to fall and before the revealing 678 00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.639 of the Man of Sin, just like Rian was talking about. 679 00:35:41.840 --> 00:35:46.000 Go ahead, Gary, Yeah, So a couple of things on 680 00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:51.280 that is, I would say that we want to be 681 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:54.960 careful with like taking some of the signs like in 682 00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:59.000 the seals and saying it's that timing when we're talking 683 00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:04.719 about things the sky's darkening, and people confusing the time 684 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:06.639 of the day of the Lord because it looks like 685 00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:09.280 it is because you've got twenty five percent destruction, because 686 00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:15.079 you get those earthquakes and everything happening. Skies darkening in 687 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.000 the Trumpet judgments and also in the rath bulls. So 688 00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:22.199 again they're just getting stronger as you go. If you 689 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.679 follow one of the overarching signs that Jesus provided with 690 00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:32.920 the beginning of Sorrows, I would look at Joel iiO 691 00:36:33.320 --> 00:36:37.920 is lining up with the Revelation nine war, because they're 692 00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:40.400 talking about the same kinds of beams, and after the 693 00:36:40.440 --> 00:36:43.920 Abyss has been open, and just before the midpoint of 694 00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:47.000 the last seven years, which would be that counterfeit armageddon 695 00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:50.559 that Antichrist is going to need to have to come 696 00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:54.079 to power on. I look at Ezekiel thirty eight and 697 00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:57.599 thirty nine as both In Ezekiel thirty eight it's in 698 00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.360 the last days, not in the millennial. Those some people 699 00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:04.320 can make a good argument that that's for the millennium 700 00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:06.920 as the last days that it extends, not the cats 701 00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:10.719 word has used in Daniel nine twenty six to describe 702 00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:13.880 the end time. At the time of the end cats 703 00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.400 is the time of the end, that is the seven years. 704 00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:19.559 I get the distinction on those arguments, but I think 705 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.599 the end time as we understand it with the all 706 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.400 of the terms in the Old Testament, happened in the 707 00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:28.840 last seven years in different events in both halfs of 708 00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:32.400 those years, I think in Ezekiel thirty eight, when you 709 00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:34.719 get the same description of the same war and the 710 00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:39.639 aftermath of the destruction, you get second Exodus happening, and 711 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:42.760 that's a second half event, So it happens after that 712 00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:45.800 war in the second half, and so that to me 713 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:49.800 is not the Armageddon battle. It's a lot like it, 714 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:53.199 but it's like a birthpang. Armageddon's going to be destruction, 715 00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:56.280 even more so around the world, perhaps not in the 716 00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.000 same numbers because of all of the people that are 717 00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:01.800 being killed. I mean, we'll see how many are are 718 00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:07.639 are left. And I wouldn't confuse wrath with tribulation. The 719 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:12.920 New Testament uses two different words for wrath in terms 720 00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:18.440 of the Greek and they are Thumos and orgae are 721 00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:20.920 the two words, and they're used in conjunction with each other, 722 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:23.599 as you see wrath come up in the New Testament. 723 00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:29.400 And so it's not philippies for tribulation. So what's the difference, 724 00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:33.079 And the difference is is that tribulation is what Christians 725 00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:37.960 go through. Wrath is reserved for those who are going 726 00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:43.280 to take the mark worship Antichrist, worship Satan. It's not 727 00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:45.880 for Christians. It's a separate thing. But that doesn't mean 728 00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:48.000 we don't go through tribulation, because we're told we're going 729 00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:51.840 to go through tribulation, just as we see saints going 730 00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:56.599 through tribulation. And there is a year of the Lord's wrath, 731 00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.519 the year of the Lord's venge, the day of the 732 00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.880 Lord again, using that same day for a year, you 733 00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:05.920 get that crossover of the prophetic allegory that's telling you 734 00:39:06.000 --> 00:39:08.519 there's a full year of the wrath that's going to 735 00:39:08.559 --> 00:39:12.119 happen when the wrath bulls are poured out. So what 736 00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.639 we're being promised is to be saved from the from 737 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.960 the wrath, which is the word or gay that's used 738 00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:23.440 for a wrath in the Bible as opposed to the 739 00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:26.199 thumless one or in the New Testament. So we have 740 00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:30.079 we want to make sure we're not confusing wrath with tribulation. 741 00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.079 And when we start to separate those sort of concepts 742 00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:38.320 and we've put it around the chronological order that Jesus provides, 743 00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:41.280 everything sort of starts to make some sense. 744 00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:46.639 Interesting. Yeah, I would. I would just say that a 745 00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:51.920 couple of things is in terms of the blood moon 746 00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:55.159 and the suentrain Dark, the only time that happens is 747 00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:57.760 at the six sealed, So that's it. So that's so, 748 00:39:57.960 --> 00:39:59.719 that's that's why. So I think that's why. I believe 749 00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:00.920 that is the fulfillment. 750 00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:04.480 Couch of Ole Testament Versus talk about the sky going 751 00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:06.920 darkest and Joel it's in Isaiah it's another. 752 00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.719 But Joel two thirty one in particular describes the sun 753 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:14.079 turning black and the moon turning to blood, which only 754 00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:16.760 occurs at the six seals. So yeah, there are other darkness. 755 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.519 You have to be careful with Joel tool because it's 756 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.760 not saying it's armageddon. It is the Day of the 757 00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:26.800 Lord is coming. Armageddon follows in Joel three. 758 00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.039 Sure, I don't believe it's I don't believe the six 759 00:40:29.079 --> 00:40:31.400 Seal is armageddon. I believe it's the beginning of it. 760 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:33.400 I don't believe it's I don't believe it's armageddon at all. 761 00:40:33.480 --> 00:40:36.920 So so you think it's a seven year wrath period 762 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:38.960 of armageddon. 763 00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:44.639 Now I I don't see. I believe that the sixth 764 00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:46.960 Seal is the start of the Day of the Lord 765 00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:50.480 and Armageddon is a series of battles near the end 766 00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:53.159 of the seven years of the Day of the Daniel 767 00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:54.960 seventieth week. So I don't. I don't see them as 768 00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:55.280 being this. 769 00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:58.519 How do you reconcile the year of the Lord's vengeance 770 00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:02.400 that follows is the year of the Lord's favor. 771 00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:06.119 I'm not familiar with the year of the Lord's favor. 772 00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:09.119 So again I'm not that I'm not I'm not familiar 773 00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:12.480 with that, uh, that concept. So, but that's just that, 774 00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.880 that's I'm just saying. But in terms of the fulfillment 775 00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:19.480 of that series, that that solar or interstellars series of 776 00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:21.480 events that I believe that only takes place at the 777 00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.880 six sealed, I'd also say two on Ezekiel thirty eight 778 00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:27.239 in terms of God Magog And why I see this 779 00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:31.760 two separate battles is that the conditions of Ezekiel thirty 780 00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:35.960 eight with respect to Israel are Israel dwelling in safety 781 00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:40.239 without bars, without gates, which I see prophetically in the 782 00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:42.960 Old Testament, the prophecies of that I believe take place 783 00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:47.000 during the millennium not prior. To say that Israel is 784 00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:48.840 in complete safety. 785 00:41:48.719 --> 00:41:51.599 Could be the three and a half years that God 786 00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:55.320 is protecting Judah in the wilderness that's talked about in 787 00:41:55.360 --> 00:42:00.480 Revelation twelve, waiting for the tribes of lost Israel who 788 00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:04.440 are awaken and visible Judah tribes around the world to 789 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.440 be led back to the wilderness to join up with 790 00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:10.719 them in the wilderness, as Ezekiel thirty seven talks about, 791 00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:15.440 and the time of the Second Exodus with Ezekiel thirty 792 00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.360 seven also talks about. 793 00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:19.679 Sure, but I believe I believe they'll be in Edom 794 00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:22.679 during that time in Basra and Jesus leads them back. 795 00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:25.719 Who's this coming from Bosria? So I believe that there 796 00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:27.559 won't be in Israel at that time. They will be 797 00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:31.880 supernaturally protected, absolutely, the believing remnant will be supernaturally protected. 798 00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:34.920 But I believe that takes place of Edom. Whereas we 799 00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:38.239 see Ezekil thirty eight, it's specifically talking about Israel the 800 00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:41.519 nation being with no defense, defenseless, and I believe that's 801 00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:44.119 only going to take place during the millennium. 802 00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.480 But when Jesus comes back from Edom, that's at the 803 00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:53.280 time of Armageddon, after he's destroyed Edom. 804 00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:57.239 Sure, right, yeah, correct, what he's saying different. 805 00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:00.920 Yeah, all yeah, I'm just saying that he's making the 806 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:06.599 point that the the Ezec of thirty thirty eight prophecy 807 00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:09.559 is talking about living in the land of unwalled villages 808 00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:12.519 and living safely in and then he's going to come 809 00:43:12.599 --> 00:43:14.039 upon the mountains of Israel. 810 00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.320 I don't think you could equate that with Edom or 811 00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:20.079 the wilderness, you know, in any event. But I see 812 00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.400 your point though, Gary, But I think I think i'm 813 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:27.840 I'm with you on that rhine that the attack of 814 00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:29.760 Dog is upon the mountains of Israel. 815 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:33.320 The wilderness is in the desert, as it would be 816 00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:36.800 understood as a wilderness. 817 00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:39.039 Right, But I think the wilderness wouldn't be considered to 818 00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:42.679 be Israel because everything about that. Historically they wander in 819 00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.199 the wilderness, you know, until they went into the Promised Land. 820 00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:47.679 I would think it's it's equated to that somehow. 821 00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:51.199 Yeah, I would agree with would be somewhere protected by 822 00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:52.760 God for that three and a half years, so they 823 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:56.039 wouldn't have walls and things because they're protected by God, 824 00:43:58.079 --> 00:43:59.000 right or or it. 825 00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:02.679 Could be the millennial Christ they're protected for a thousand years. 826 00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:05.280 And then when Satan has loosed a little season, that's 827 00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:06.920 another Gog and Magog. 828 00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:07.599 Battle that takes place. 829 00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.599 For sure, Well, what in gog and May that brings 830 00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:13.679 a lot more believers to God because he's put a 831 00:44:13.679 --> 00:44:17.119 stamp on that promise right there and says like if 832 00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:20.920 when this happens, you will know that like basically he 833 00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:23.880 is God, because he's saying he's making a promise that 834 00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:25.239 he will protect them no matter what. 835 00:44:25.760 --> 00:44:28.159 Well, what happens, all that all. 836 00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.639 That prophecy fulfills, You're gonna have a lot more believers 837 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:33.119 coming back to You have a lot more believers coming 838 00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:35.840 back to to to to a lot of a lot 839 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:37.320 of believers, a lot of Gentiles, a lot of people 840 00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:38.760 are gonna come to believe that because they're gonna know 841 00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:42.280 this Magog Magog happened, and God Magog prophecy happened. 842 00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.039 You're gonna have a lot more way more believers out 843 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:45.679 of it, because. 844 00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:48.440 Well, what's gonna happen, though, Josh is is that I 845 00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:52.199 suspect and I anticipate that Anti Christ will use this 846 00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:56.239 as his counterfeit Armageddon because he has to, uh, he 847 00:44:56.400 --> 00:45:00.599 has to present credentials that he is the true Messiah, 848 00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:02.400 and he's going to use that and take credit. I 849 00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:05.199 think Ryan was saying that he would take credit for 850 00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:09.920 that war and that happens at the midpoint of the 851 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:12.760 last seven years, that he is going to then move 852 00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:16.119 his armies as Luke and Daniel talk about around Jerusalem 853 00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:18.760 after that war and set up the Abomination. So that 854 00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:21.800 is a war that's going to happen I think based 855 00:45:21.840 --> 00:45:26.320 on that before the midpoint of the last seven years. 856 00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:28.199 And if you look at Ezekiel thirty seven as well, 857 00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.760 that's the time of the dry Bones. That's a resurrection 858 00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:36.440 of past Israel to join modern Israel. They're going to go, 859 00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:39.039 as Daniel twelve talks about, and this is the time 860 00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:41.559 of Jacob's trouble, in the time of the great tribulation 861 00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:43.559 of the last three and a half years, as Jesus 862 00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:46.199 talks about that, they're going to go under the judgment, 863 00:45:46.280 --> 00:45:53.199 some to everlasting life and some to death. And Israel 864 00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:58.400 is going to recognize with the Abomination in Jesus' sign 865 00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:03.000 that that's the Messiah, and you're just going to recognize 866 00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:04.519 the one as they're piers, and they're going to be 867 00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:07.880 brought back into the bride in the second half, in 868 00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:11.679 time for the Armageddon battle and the Supper of the 869 00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:14.880 Lamb that happens in Revelation nineteen mm. 870 00:46:16.239 --> 00:46:20.360 Okay, And I think we were like at uh, I 871 00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.159 think Ryan, I think we left off for like what 872 00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:24.440 the second trumpet. 873 00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:29.000 Basically, I think so time wise, Uh did you did 874 00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:30.199 you want to carry on from there? 875 00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:33.440 I think, Ryan, because I think I think you got 876 00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:35.599 done and your we're like timeline wise, I think we're 877 00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:37.199 like at the second trumpet. 878 00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:40.639 Right, yeah sure, so I mean yeah, so again, yes, 879 00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:41.360 just so. 880 00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:43.719 People get an idea because yeah, yeah, I'm telling you 881 00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:45.039 some of the listeners. 882 00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:45.199 That are listening. 883 00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:47.480 I mean, you guys are so in depth, like, but 884 00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:50.880 I just want to hear the idea because when I 885 00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.519 read Revelation, like when I first read a relation Revelation 886 00:46:53.679 --> 00:46:55.800 and I started reading about these seals and these trumpets 887 00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:58.000 and these twenty one judgments, I have no clue what 888 00:46:58.039 --> 00:46:58.440 I'm reading. 889 00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:00.639 I have no idea. So uh, just just so we 890 00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:01.920 can keep a timeline. 891 00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:05.519 Yeah, yeah, absolutely so yes, you guys are still in death. 892 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:06.920 It's hard to keep up. 893 00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:10.400 For something, no no, no, no, no problems, So just 894 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:13.440 to try and you know, uh, symboli five. So you 895 00:47:13.519 --> 00:47:17.639 get to the the the first four trumpet judgments now 896 00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:20.119 that are being unleashed, and you see this repetition of 897 00:47:20.199 --> 00:47:23.039 a third right, a third of the of the season, 898 00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:25.400 the waters right a third of the grass that they're 899 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:30.719 now being judged. I believe that's taking us up. And 900 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:33.760 now we're in the first three and a half years. 901 00:47:33.800 --> 00:47:36.519 I believe of the final seven years, Daniel seventieth week, 902 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:37.679 and this is. 903 00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:40.159 That that that three and a half years, that the 904 00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:42.280 end three and a half years is where the is 905 00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:42.840 where we're at. 906 00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.480 Right, this is the first half. This is the first 907 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:48.000 seven years. I believe we're in the first half. 908 00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:50.320 Okay, right here, we're at the fourth trumpet. 909 00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:54.159 Okay, okay, so in the in the in the first 910 00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.760 four trumpets leading us to the fifth trumpet. And for 911 00:47:57.760 --> 00:48:00.599 for me, for you know the way, my I my 912 00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:04.360 kind of timeline of revelation, the fifth trumpet to me 913 00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:09.719 is the pivotal, pivotal, pivotal event of the entire day 914 00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:12.480 of the Lord right of this chronology, because I believe 915 00:48:12.519 --> 00:48:14.599 that is the midpoint. I believe that's the time when 916 00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:18.079 the Abyss is opened. And now you have these locusts 917 00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:21.280 that are released from the abyss, from the bottomless pit. 918 00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:25.280 And I believe those locusts quote unquote are actually the 919 00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:28.199 Genesis six rebels who've been locked in chains. As we're 920 00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:30.320 told in June verses six and seven and Second Peter 921 00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:33.599 chapter two, that they who are presently locked in chains 922 00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:37.599 the Genesis six, forefathers of the Nepheleme. I believe they 923 00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:40.880 are now released from the abyss at the fifth trumpet, 924 00:48:40.880 --> 00:48:44.639 and they're told there's a king with them, Apollon Abadawon, 925 00:48:45.079 --> 00:48:46.960 the king of the botomless pit. And I believe that 926 00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:49.920 is the spirit that will end well the Antichrist. So 927 00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:53.800 you already have the Antichrist rising to power. Beginning is deception. 928 00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:57.039 But we're told in Revelation chapter thirteen, verse four, that 929 00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:59.679 he receives a deadly wound, and that deadly wound is healed. 930 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:03.000 Leave that point at the fifth trumpet's that is the 931 00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:07.159 midpoint of the of the seven years. And when he 932 00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.599 comes back to life, his resurrection, the Antichrist resurrection from 933 00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:13.599 the imortal wound. He's now possessed by this spirit. And 934 00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:16.760 the reason why I can I tie it to saying 935 00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:20.079 this is the middle because when you look in Revelation 936 00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:24.159 chapter eleven, you have this testimony of the two witnesses, 937 00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:27.079 right they they're testifying. They give the testimony in prist 938 00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:29.639 and it says that they testify for twelve hundred and 939 00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:31.920 sixty days, for three and a half years and it 940 00:49:31.960 --> 00:49:34.960 says the beast that ascended from the bottomless pit then 941 00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:38.559 kills them. So I believe that's that's now the satanically, 942 00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:43.519 fully satanically and possessed Antichrist kills them, and I believe 943 00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:47.360 that's the midpoint. And it says one woe has passed, 944 00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:49.079 two roles are to come, which is the sixth and 945 00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:54.079 seventh trumpets. So that's in a very condensed version, how 946 00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:58.440 I see the first five trumpets showing us a chronology 947 00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:00.239 of the first three and a half years, because so 948 00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.079 as we know, twelve and six days of going by, 949 00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:04.800 the three witnesses are killed, and we're told that that 950 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:05.800 is the fifth trumpet. 951 00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:09.199 So all right, any anything to add to that, guys 952 00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:16.159 Scott or Gary. 953 00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:16.960 I'm in agreement with that chronology. But Gary, go ahead. 954 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:18.760 If you want to well, no, no, I was going 955 00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:21.800 to wait for you to okay, going to come in. 956 00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:22.960 Well, thank you. 957 00:50:23.079 --> 00:50:24.880 Yeah, I'm agreement with that chronology. 958 00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:26.239 I really do see. 959 00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:31.079 From my perspective, kind of getting back to what we 960 00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:33.599 were discussing about, the allowed to see an age. You know, 961 00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:35.920 when the church is lukewarm, and he says, I spee 962 00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:38.079 you out of my mouth, and I tied that into 963 00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:41.119 Romans chapter eleven, where Paul said, I would not have 964 00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:43.079 you ignorant of this mystery, that blindness and part has 965 00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:46.320 happened to Israel until the fullness of the gentiles. 966 00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:46.320 Be come in. 967 00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:49.840 And and what Paul was warning the gentiles in Romans 968 00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:53.800 eleven was that don't don't be high minded. The original 969 00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:57.599 natural branches were cut off because of unbelief, and you 970 00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:01.119 stand by faith, be not high minded. But because if 971 00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:03.079 God is able to cut off the natural branches, he 972 00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:03.880 could also. 973 00:51:03.639 --> 00:51:04.159 Cut off you. 974 00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:07.760 And I think that's a prophetic statement through Paul, that 975 00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:09.920 the Church is going to be cut off at some 976 00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:15.320 point from the blessings of Israel. Not salvation that's never lost, 977 00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.159 but I'm talking about the salvation, the blessing program. And 978 00:51:19.159 --> 00:51:21.280 when the church is cut off, God is no longer 979 00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:23.639 going to use it as it's being used right now. 980 00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:27.960 We're going to go out. We're no longer any effective 981 00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:31.000 purpose in the world today. The message is going to 982 00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:33.000 go back to the Gospel of the Kingdom, and the 983 00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:35.239 most qualified people to preach that are going to be 984 00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:38.280 the Jews that are sealed and that God has reserved, 985 00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:40.360 and so they would be preaching during the time of 986 00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:43.000 the Two Witnesses. I'm totally in agreement about that. For 987 00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:44.599 three and a half years, Christ had a three and 988 00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:46.599 a half year ministry on the earth preaching the Kingdom 989 00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:48.519 of Heaven is at hand. One hundred and forty four 990 00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:49.760 thousand are going to have a three and a half 991 00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:52.400 year ministry on earth preaching the Kingdom of Heaven is 992 00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:56.519 at hand, with signs and wonders returning. It's focused to Israel, 993 00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:59.679 you know, it's a focus of gathering Israel. The Church 994 00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:01.679 goes out of the way because we're in the way. 995 00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:04.440 And I don't Yeah, I know somebody I can't remember 996 00:52:04.440 --> 00:52:07.039 who alluded to it, But I don't think in my teaching, 997 00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:09.400 I don't see what's being removed from the earth as 998 00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:12.000 the Holy Spirit, not at all. What's being removed from 999 00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:15.239 the earth is the body of Christ, the current Gentile 1000 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:19.800 joint Church. When we go out, the Spirit remains, like 1001 00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:22.920 Gary said, working through the one hundred and forty four thousand, 1002 00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:25.920 working through those saints, working through the miracles and signs 1003 00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:29.440 of I think Moses and Elijah. But that's my opinion 1004 00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:30.320 of the two witnesses. 1005 00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:33.760 Yeah, yeah, opinion that was gonna be one of my Yeah, 1006 00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:35.320 one of the questions I'll ask is. 1007 00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:39.480 Who do you guys believe that that's a good opinion? Gary, 1008 00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:42.079 go ahead, you could finish, and then we'll ask that question. 1009 00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:45.239 Yeah. So I would say, uh, in terms of the chronology, 1010 00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:49.440 kind of an agreement in a number of things there. 1011 00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:52.880 I would sort of back up to the seals first 1012 00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.920 and say, I think they're open just before the start 1013 00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:58.599 of the last seven years, and you get sort of 1014 00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:02.159 the setup for what's going to be that empire that's 1015 00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:04.519 going to happen as part of the first few writers. 1016 00:53:04.519 --> 00:53:06.599 I won't go through in all of the details and 1017 00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:08.400 the Greek words and this and that, but just sort 1018 00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.199 of that's how I kind of look at it. And 1019 00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:15.400 then I see the trumpets being blasted. They're going to 1020 00:53:15.440 --> 00:53:18.880 start happening after the seal, so after the start of 1021 00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:21.199 the commission and the start of the first lot of 1022 00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:23.400 the first three and a half years with the two witnesses. 1023 00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:27.039 And again, interesting argument, maybe we'll go down to that one. 1024 00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:30.960 That one's always a fun argument. And the commission of 1025 00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:33.320 the one hundred and forty four thousand, and we know 1026 00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:37.079 the two witnesses are going to do their commission for 1027 00:53:37.119 --> 00:53:39.679 three and a half years, because we're given that timeframe, 1028 00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:44.519 and that's in the first half, right, And just as 1029 00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:46.519 the trumpets are part of the first half, they might 1030 00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:49.360 spill over to just slightly into the second half in 1031 00:53:49.719 --> 00:53:51.880 the days of the Trumpet. That'll come back to in 1032 00:53:52.199 --> 00:53:56.440 a second. And you have the one hundred and forty 1033 00:53:56.440 --> 00:53:59.440 four thousand as well, that, as I said, show up 1034 00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:01.559 in Revelation in fourteen. So if you're going with that 1035 00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:03.960 as a sequence, and then they're shown in Heaven and 1036 00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:06.159 they would be part of those first fruits, I would 1037 00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:09.960 place them in that as being part of the martyrs. 1038 00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:17.239 And I would also sort of look at the trumpets 1039 00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:22.559 as being the unfolding of the mystery of God in 1040 00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:26.159 the final parts of the trumpet, right, And I would 1041 00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:30.880 look at trumpets as being a significant marker for prophetic 1042 00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:34.920 timing both in the Old Testament and the New Testament 1043 00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:37.039 and a lot of the prophecies. So look to match 1044 00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:39.440 some of those up as well. Just as we get 1045 00:54:39.440 --> 00:54:43.480 a trumpet blast that's going to happen in the second 1046 00:54:43.559 --> 00:54:48.119 half of the oration that Jesus provides. So what I 1047 00:54:48.239 --> 00:54:55.480 find in if people were to take the first let's say, 1048 00:54:55.599 --> 00:55:00.599 from Revelation six to Revelation fourteen, and overlay that on 1049 00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:05.599 what Jesus said up to revel or Matthew twenty, using 1050 00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:07.599 I like to use Matthew twenty as the template. Then 1051 00:55:07.639 --> 00:55:10.360 I add the extra details of Mark and look into it. 1052 00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:12.719 That's your first three and a half years, and it 1053 00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.480 matches up perfectly. And that's why you get that summary 1054 00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:18.119 of the events for the last three and a half 1055 00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.639 years after the one hundred and forty four thousand ar 1056 00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:23.519 in Heaven. Then you get the details of that that 1057 00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:27.039 lead into the Great Tribulation. So there's still going to 1058 00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:32.440 be tribulation of people not raptured right in the second half, 1059 00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:35.840 those who don't take the Mark, but they're still not 1060 00:55:36.000 --> 00:55:39.559 going to be part of the wrath of God somehow someway, 1061 00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:44.400 either they're all killed or or some survive, and I 1062 00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:48.559 think some survive into the millennium. But what you get 1063 00:55:48.800 --> 00:55:53.119 is is this great tribulation that leads into the wrath 1064 00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:56.239 and the year of the Lord's Favor is the busting 1065 00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:59.719 out of the prisoners, as Luke Forohr talks about in 1066 00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:03.719 Isah sixty three talk about. So you have this bringing 1067 00:56:03.800 --> 00:56:07.239 back in of Israel in the time of Second exodus 1068 00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:10.000 and back in time for the Supper and for the 1069 00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:12.519 Supper of the Lamb, and that's the year of the 1070 00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:14.679 Lord's Favorite. Then it's followed by the year of the 1071 00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.000 Lord's Wrath. Pulls mhm. 1072 00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:20.639 Okay, who do you guys believe are the two witnesses. 1073 00:56:20.960 --> 00:56:26.039 We'll start out with you, Ryan, I think you're muted. 1074 00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:31.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm here, so so I'm not. I'll 1075 00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:34.320 start off by saying I'm actually not the automatic one. 1076 00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:37.599 This's questioned. So, and I think they're very good. It's 1077 00:56:37.559 --> 00:56:40.760 Scott already mentioned you know, Moses and Elijah. You mentioned Scott, 1078 00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:42.880 and I know he's gotta have a very good explanation 1079 00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:45.280 for this. I've discussed the thing before, so I'll let 1080 00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:50.440 him do Moses and Elijah. I'm gonna uh, I'm gonna 1081 00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:56.400 throw out something totally different, two possible uh candidates and 1082 00:56:56.639 --> 00:56:59.159 try and go through the reasoning. So, I think it's 1083 00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:05.599 a possible ability that the two witnesses are Joshua the 1084 00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:10.159 High Priest from the Book of Zachariah, right, so, and 1085 00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:13.760 not Joshua from the Book of Joshua. And then Ziabbibel's right, 1086 00:57:13.800 --> 00:57:15.719 So you're talking about the high priest and the governor 1087 00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:17.519 in Jerusalem at the time of the you know, the 1088 00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:21.559 rebuilding after the Babylonian captivity and so. And the reason 1089 00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:28.280 why is they both have very interesting prophetic conversations with 1090 00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:35.800 God that really I think have repetition in the Book 1091 00:57:35.800 --> 00:57:40.440 of Revelation and so, so you know, in Zachariah chapter three, 1092 00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:43.159 you have this interesting passage where Joshua, the high priest, 1093 00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:45.760 is before the throne of God says, Satan is at 1094 00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:49.119 his right hand. So clearly again we're in heaven now, 1095 00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:55.559 and you have this kind where God says essentially that 1096 00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:58.119 you know, is this not one a brand plucked from 1097 00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:00.599 the fire, And it says there's several things that I 1098 00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:02.480 knows about this passage. It says, one that his garments 1099 00:58:02.480 --> 00:58:05.639 were filthy, and God gives him clean garments, right, so 1100 00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:07.960 he's taking his in aways forgiving, but he gives he 1101 00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:11.519 gives him clean garments. And then and then I'm actually 1102 00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:13.199 gonna just read brief in some of the verses here 1103 00:58:13.199 --> 00:58:16.039 because it's really interesting what is said to him. And 1104 00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:19.320 it says, so after he's given clean garments, a change 1105 00:58:19.360 --> 00:58:22.119 of raiments, he says, I've caused your iniquity to pass away. 1106 00:58:22.119 --> 00:58:25.599 From you. This is verse four in Zachari chapter three. 1107 00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:28.800 And then he puts a miter on his head, and 1108 00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:32.320 it says that the Angel of the Lord said to Joshua, 1109 00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:35.119 if thou will walk in my ways and thou will 1110 00:58:35.199 --> 00:58:38.079 keep my charge, then thou shalt judge my house and 1111 00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:40.960 shall keep my courts, and I will give thee places 1112 00:58:40.960 --> 00:58:45.280 to walk among these that stand by. So God's telling him, 1113 00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:47.320 if you I'm gonna give you a mission, if you 1114 00:58:47.400 --> 00:58:51.039 fulfill it, you will be among these others who are 1115 00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:53.760 around you. So he's among a group of people. And 1116 00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:56.760 it continues by saying, here now, Joshua, the high priest, 1117 00:58:56.920 --> 00:59:00.280 thou and thy fellows that sit before thee, for they 1118 00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:03.599 are men wondered at. And so if you look again 1119 00:59:03.760 --> 00:59:06.800 in Revelation chapter at the fifth at the fifth seal, 1120 00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:09.960 the martyrs under the altar who ask God we mentioned before, 1121 00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:12.159 how long to you avenges? God tells them wait a 1122 00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:15.239 little while. But he also gives them garments. When you 1123 00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:17.239 get to Revelation chapter seven, where I believe you see 1124 00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:21.039 the raptured church, they have this. It specifically says they 1125 00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:23.719 have on white roads, right, so they have on these 1126 00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:27.039 white garments to symbolize them being in They're in heaven. 1127 00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:30.199 So I believe is this a prophetic image of him 1128 00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:33.280 standing among or seeing a vision of the raptured church 1129 00:59:33.320 --> 00:59:35.599 and God saying, if you fulfill my mission, you're going 1130 00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:38.639 to stand with these men who are wondered at And 1131 00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:40.719 then it says in verse nine, I won't read, you know, 1132 00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:41.960 I'm not gonna read the whole thing. But then it 1133 00:59:41.960 --> 00:59:45.000 says that for behold the stone I have laid before Joshua, 1134 00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:49.039 upon one stone shall be seven eyes. Behold, I will 1135 00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:51.320 engrave the graving there of, say the Lord of Host, 1136 00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:53.760 and or remove the iniquity of that of that land 1137 00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:57.119 in one day. So again I believe this is referring 1138 00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:02.000 to the end times emption of Israel, the temple, keeping 1139 01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:04.880 my house right. And what was Rabba Bel and josh 1140 01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:06.719 are trying to do at that time is about rebuilding 1141 01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:09.119 the wall, rebuilding the temple, And so I believe in 1142 01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:11.639 end times that's a possibility. And when you get to 1143 01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:15.079 zer rabbit Bel, you see a prophecy in Hagi where 1144 01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:17.719 you know that famous verse, not not by strength, but 1145 01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:21.000 by my spirit, say at the Lord, And it tells 1146 01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:23.719 the rabbit Bel that God's asking him to be an 1147 01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:26.599 end sign at some point in the future, and he 1148 01:00:26.679 --> 01:00:31.480 makes this reference to him being an olive tree standing 1149 01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:34.480 before the Lord. And you see again this symbol of 1150 01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:38.119 these olive trees and branches and lamps before the Lord 1151 01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:40.079 in the Book of Revelation. So I think there's a 1152 01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:45.239 possibility that both of them, those two who had a 1153 01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:46.960 similar mission. Again, and a lot of this is the 1154 01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:50.360 center around the temple, could be the two witnesses witnessing 1155 01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:53.679 at the Third Temple in the Great Tribulation. 1156 01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:56.679 I've never heard that before, So that's that's awesome. I'm 1157 01:00:56.719 --> 01:01:00.519 glad I got to hear a different perception. And Gary, 1158 01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:01.079 what do you think? 1159 01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:05.039 Yeah, I mean, we have to speculate because we're not 1160 01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:08.800 provided the names, so of course we want to be 1161 01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:13.320 clear that, but we know there are two witnesses. I 1162 01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:17.360 you know, I find the argument absolutely fascinating, and all 1163 01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:20.480 the good reasons I tend to sort of look sort 1164 01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:23.280 of locked my investigation into try and narrow it down 1165 01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:27.639 as best as I can, as flowed as we are, 1166 01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:31.360 is that everybody is reserved to die the first death 1167 01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:34.760 once except for those that are going to be raptured, right, 1168 01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:39.840 And so there's not that many candidates who haven't suffered 1169 01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:42.519 that first death, and we know the two witnesses are 1170 01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:46.880 going to die, So if if, if that's true, and 1171 01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:49.599 again that's just sort of one of the basis is 1172 01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:51.760 to sort of for me to start trying to narrow 1173 01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:54.320 it down. Then that suggests to me that we have 1174 01:01:56.039 --> 01:01:59.519 Enoch who could testify as a witness to the anti Luvian, 1175 01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:04.079 which would be a good choice. You have Elijah, who 1176 01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:07.320 we know is coming back, but to make the way 1177 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:12.000 for Jesus as opposed, which might be more if you're 1178 01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:16.800 a mid trip slightly after like I am from positioning, 1179 01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:20.239 which makes more sense with Jesus coming back then and 1180 01:02:21.400 --> 01:02:24.400 for his days of exodus and his days of armagedin 1181 01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:27.119 to make that way. So he's one, but he may 1182 01:02:27.159 --> 01:02:29.360 have a different role. And I'll come back to that 1183 01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:32.400 in a second. And then there's another one that would 1184 01:02:32.440 --> 01:02:35.960 be you would need a witness for the New Covenant, 1185 01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:40.000 the New Testament. And you get this interesting passage at 1186 01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:42.920 the passages at the end of the Book of John 1187 01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:46.880 about the disciple Jesus loved, and this discussion about was 1188 01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:50.159 is he going to die or not? And basically, you 1189 01:02:50.159 --> 01:02:52.400 know Jesus saying, well, what's that to you? Whether I 1190 01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:56.360 want him to live basically till I come back or not? Right, 1191 01:02:56.920 --> 01:03:02.360 And so I think you've got three good individuals there 1192 01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:05.000 based on who suffered the first death, if that's one 1193 01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:10.079 of the criterias, and so, but I would say I 1194 01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:13.360 would narrow it down to Enoch and the disciple Jesus loved, 1195 01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:17.800 who's not named. There's lots of theories from Lazareth to 1196 01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:24.719 Mary Magdalen to notahan ale. I kind of like that 1197 01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:29.119 one as well. More lean towards that one. But you 1198 01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:32.519 could also some people named John as well. And I'm 1199 01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:36.159 sure we get a death of John or not. That's 1200 01:03:36.199 --> 01:03:38.199 in the scripture that we can rely on, so one 1201 01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:42.000 might be sort of open to that. And Elijah would 1202 01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:46.440 also fit very well with the bringing back of lost 1203 01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:49.000 Israel and Judah and the Exodus as one of the 1204 01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:52.760 seven shepherds that is led by Jesus and Micah two 1205 01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:58.159 and Micah five for that event. So I would lean 1206 01:03:58.239 --> 01:04:00.639 based on that that I can fit all three in, 1207 01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:05.440 and I would lean towards Enoch and the disciple Jesus loved, 1208 01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:10.719 who that would be. And you also get I'm going 1209 01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:12.440 too deep into this one, but as it was a 1210 01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:14.840 reference in the Book of Zachariah with those two olive 1211 01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:18.760 stands and all that imagery that goes in there, it 1212 01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:21.880 just starts to open up doors to all sorts of 1213 01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:25.920 possibilities as who's being represented there in the Old Testament, 1214 01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:29.119 and those stands also show up in the New Testament 1215 01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:32.519 in the Book of Revelations. So so yeah, you can 1216 01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:34.760 go out it a thousand different ways. I sort of 1217 01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:37.119 zeroed in and said, I think it's probably in these 1218 01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:40.199 three because of that first sort of basis and premise 1219 01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:40.920 that I made. 1220 01:04:41.400 --> 01:04:43.719 Man, it's weird because when I first asked that question, 1221 01:04:44.800 --> 01:04:47.960 which I've never thought of, I thought of Enoch and 1222 01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:49.039 Elijah for some reason. 1223 01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:50.800 I don't know, maybe God just put that in my head. 1224 01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:52.960 So when you started speaking, Gary, I was like, I 1225 01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:55.719 wonder if he's going to say that. So, hey, that's interesting. 1226 01:04:56.119 --> 01:05:00.599 All the takes were awesome. I think Elijah and Moses 1227 01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:03.639 met Jesus on the hills. So Scott, do you want 1228 01:05:03.639 --> 01:05:05.599 to go through why you why you chose them, or 1229 01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:07.159 or are you just. 1230 01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:10.280 I mean, I'll just give you very quick ones because 1231 01:05:10.280 --> 01:05:13.960 we've already mentioned Moses and Elijah. I definitely defer to 1232 01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:16.840 the superior intellect of both Gary and Ryan. On these 1233 01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:20.480 other choices, which I think are excellent and dead right, 1234 01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:23.320 we can only speculate because we're not given the names. 1235 01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:27.320 But I based my belief on three things. One you 1236 01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:31.239 just mentioned, Josh, the amount of Transfiguration showed the Kingdom 1237 01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:34.800 in a vision form, with both Moses and Elijah present 1238 01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:40.000 with Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration. The other reason 1239 01:05:40.079 --> 01:05:43.159 I would number two would be the last chapter of 1240 01:05:43.199 --> 01:05:46.239 the last book of the Old Testament. Malachi four mentions 1241 01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:50.719 both Moses and Elijah by name, and in verse four 1242 01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:53.000 of chapter four it says, remember you the law of Moses, 1243 01:05:53.079 --> 01:05:55.480 my servant, and in verse five it says, behold, I 1244 01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:58.159 will send you Elijah the Prophet before the coming of 1245 01:05:58.199 --> 01:05:59.280 the great and dreadful. 1246 01:05:58.960 --> 01:05:59.400 Day of the Lord. 1247 01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:01.920 And that doesn't as they will be the two witnesses, 1248 01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:04.280 but it sure does seem to point in that direction. 1249 01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:07.119 But the third thing that kind of censes it for 1250 01:06:07.199 --> 01:06:09.960 me for now, and I'm wide open to a better 1251 01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:12.639 understanding if the Lord shows and I have no this 1252 01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:14.679 is not my hill to die on by any stretch. 1253 01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:18.880 And that's in Revelation eleven, when they're described the two 1254 01:06:18.920 --> 01:06:22.519 witnesses there. It's the power they're given in verse six. 1255 01:06:22.639 --> 01:06:24.840 These have power to shut heaven that it rained not 1256 01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:27.800 in the days of their prophecy, which happened with Elijah 1257 01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:31.280 yep in a half years, and have power over waters, 1258 01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:32.960 to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth 1259 01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:35.519 with all plagues as often as they will, which would 1260 01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:38.880 have preceded the exodus with Moses. So I think those 1261 01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:40.960 are my arguments for those two names. 1262 01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:45.599 You think that's why that's why Michael five the devil 1263 01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:50.159 for Moses's body as well, because his body might be 1264 01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:51.440 needed later on in life. 1265 01:06:52.519 --> 01:06:54.920 You know, that's a great question, Jason, and I wonder 1266 01:06:54.960 --> 01:06:57.719 sometimes is he talking about the physical body of Moses, 1267 01:06:57.719 --> 01:07:00.599 which did die, or is he talking about the church 1268 01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:02.880 that was baptized under Moses in the cloud as we 1269 01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:05.079 are the body of Christ. Could that have been a church? 1270 01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:08.079 Could that have been Israel? And it was something about 1271 01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:11.559 their righteousness? You know that that's a great that's a 1272 01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:14.199 great point. But I bet Gary has an even better 1273 01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:14.880 point to make. 1274 01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:18.880 Well. It's interesting and that you're talking about in the 1275 01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:21.880 Book of Jude where Satan has come to claim Moses's 1276 01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:26.960 dead body or a book of Hebrews. I'm sorry, no, 1277 01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:30.440 I might be mixing it up, but anyway, dude, Yes, 1278 01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:35.599 So what's interesting about that is is I think Satan's 1279 01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:41.400 going there for his due legal right to claim Moses 1280 01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:47.559 because Moses was adopted into the royal family of the Pharaohs, 1281 01:07:47.719 --> 01:07:51.719 and he would have been initiated at Heliopolis into the 1282 01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:56.119 mysteries and taken all of the oaths swearing his loyalty 1283 01:07:56.360 --> 01:08:01.000 and everything else, and we were held accountable or are oaths, 1284 01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:04.039 which is why we're instructed not to give an oath 1285 01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:06.599 because you're going to be held accountable for that. And 1286 01:08:06.679 --> 01:08:10.840 so when Moses died because of those oaths, I think 1287 01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:14.719 he showed up to make claim his legal right on 1288 01:08:15.360 --> 01:08:19.920 He's not going to go to heaven, he's mine. But 1289 01:08:20.399 --> 01:08:23.880 the thing is is is Satan isn't the God most High, 1290 01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:28.119 and God trumped that legal claim. He can trump anything 1291 01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.399 that he wants because he is who he is, and 1292 01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:33.479 he can do what he chooses because he's the Alfa 1293 01:08:33.479 --> 01:08:37.159 Omega and he knows everything. And so I think that's 1294 01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:40.399 why you have that claim there. And just my sort 1295 01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:44.399 of interesting thought because it's such an odd passage that 1296 01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:46.399 sort of comes out of nowhere and says, well, why 1297 01:08:46.520 --> 01:08:49.640 is Satan fighting over Moses's body? And how many other 1298 01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:53.960 bodies you know, of the disciples or great profits was 1299 01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:56.560 he fighting over. We're not told of any just the one. 1300 01:08:57.760 --> 01:09:01.079 And so yeah, and I do RECOGNI eyes that Moses was. 1301 01:09:01.119 --> 01:09:03.479 It was in in the it was in the transfiguration, 1302 01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:05.319 and you know what, he could be back in the 1303 01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:08.760 last seven years as well, because there's seven shepherds and 1304 01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:12.279 even eight as it says so for for the exodus, 1305 01:09:12.279 --> 01:09:16.399 so there could be more people. But it's such a 1306 01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:21.600 it's such a fabulous topic in terms of why two 1307 01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:26.159 witnesses and not three or not how many? However many 1308 01:09:26.279 --> 01:09:28.560 or seven which would be a complete number, and why 1309 01:09:28.600 --> 01:09:31.680 aren't they named? It's just a mystery, right. 1310 01:09:32.039 --> 01:09:35.920 It's interesting Also maybe uh, maybe Satan might want might 1311 01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:38.119 have wanted his body so he could put it somewhere 1312 01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:40.239 in you know, so that maybe Jews would be like 1313 01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:42.279 worshiping it, you know what I mean. That's maybe another 1314 01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:44.359 way to think about it. Like let's say they did. 1315 01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:46.960 Let's say Satan got the body and they put it 1316 01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:49.359 into casket and they put it into Jerusalem, and then 1317 01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:52.560 Moses's body you know, his casket was there. I don't know, 1318 01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:53.520 maybe I'm just tripping. 1319 01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:57.119 Oh yeah, it came just just as what happened in 1320 01:09:57.159 --> 01:10:01.079 Israel when they were starting to worship the the seraphim 1321 01:10:01.119 --> 01:10:04.119 in image on the poll that was put up in 1322 01:10:04.119 --> 01:10:08.560 in the time of the exodus. Right, that would absolutely 1323 01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:09.000 use it. 1324 01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:12.159 That's a crazy subject as well, because why use a 1325 01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:13.560 bad survey? 1326 01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:15.479 Yeah, that's that's that's that's crazy. 1327 01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:17.600 It kind of makes you wonder what would Satan want 1328 01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:20.479 with his body anyways, seeing as how the soul is 1329 01:10:20.479 --> 01:10:22.039 what he's interested in, right. 1330 01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:24.920 Yeah, And that's where I know he did sin before 1331 01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:26.640 you you didn't get to see the promised land, so 1332 01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:28.960 he died before seeing the promised land, right. 1333 01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:30.560 So well, and that's absolutely true. 1334 01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:32.720 But that's why I say there's a possibility that we're 1335 01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:34.800 looking at it from a different perspective because if we 1336 01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:37.840 think about we that are baptized by one spirit into 1337 01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:39.880 one body, and Christ is the head of the church, 1338 01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:42.560 the body of Christ, and that's a church. And then 1339 01:10:42.600 --> 01:10:45.800 Paul mentioned that they our fathers were baptizing the cloud 1340 01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:48.880 and in the sea under Moses, and so he was 1341 01:10:48.920 --> 01:10:50.880 like the head of a church because Christ had not 1342 01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:54.079 yet been offered for sins, so it could be that 1343 01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:57.319 it was a dispute over that group, over that church. 1344 01:10:57.399 --> 01:10:57.840 I don't know. 1345 01:10:57.960 --> 01:10:59.880 I mean, it's just one of those pot all right, 1346 01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:03.319 all right, So now we're on the sixth trumpet basically 1347 01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:05.239 in the in the timeline, so we'd go like the 1348 01:11:05.279 --> 01:11:12.079 six trumpet. Uh, now, question about the sixth trumpet. Uh, 1349 01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:14.880 it's talking about the four angels who are bound in 1350 01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:17.640 the Great River of Euphrates. A lot of people right 1351 01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:19.880 now have been sending video after video, and Ryan, I 1352 01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:20.960 know you're pretty good on this one. 1353 01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:22.319 I heard because I've heard you on a lot of 1354 01:11:22.359 --> 01:11:23.359 podcasts on this part. 1355 01:11:23.760 --> 01:11:26.439 But a lot of people are like, oh, like all 1356 01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:29.039 these people that aren't even non Christian are like, look 1357 01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:31.600 at the review of Euphrates is drying up right now, 1358 01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:34.039 and there's some people that are saying they're recording some 1359 01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:37.680 sounds and also like tombs are are are are being 1360 01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:42.680 exposed because the river's drying up. So people keep on saying, well, 1361 01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:44.760 it's happening, it's happening, but they don't understand, like the 1362 01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:47.520 seals have to be broken first, and then also the uh, 1363 01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:49.479 the other trumpets have to go off because obviously they're 1364 01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:50.520 not reading the Bible. 1365 01:11:50.880 --> 01:11:52.960 So but go ahead Ryan on that one if you can. 1366 01:11:53.880 --> 01:11:59.000 The four angels. 1367 01:11:57.239 --> 01:12:00.439 Right, so so yeah, so, so lots to say here, right, 1368 01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:02.119 so as it was in the days of Noah. So 1369 01:12:02.159 --> 01:12:04.239 I believe here, you know, we're seeing the reenactment of 1370 01:12:04.279 --> 01:12:05.479 the flood judgment rights. 1371 01:12:05.520 --> 01:12:06.000 And you have. 1372 01:12:06.119 --> 01:12:08.399 First, you know, in the days of Noah, you have 1373 01:12:08.560 --> 01:12:12.720 the windows of Heaven open, and the rain obviously came down, 1374 01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:14.239 but also the fountains of the deep, so you have 1375 01:12:14.319 --> 01:12:16.720 water coming from below and from above. And I believe 1376 01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:19.399 in the antimes you're gonna see an angelic flood. So 1377 01:12:19.520 --> 01:12:22.479 you have now the Abyss is opened, you have the 1378 01:12:22.520 --> 01:12:25.439 locus state Genesis. Six angels come out from the Abyss, 1379 01:12:25.479 --> 01:12:28.840 the spirit Abbadom. But then you also have the revelation 1380 01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:31.520 twelve the angels satan In evicted, with the remainder of 1381 01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:34.479 the fallen angels coming down to Earth. And in the 1382 01:12:34.520 --> 01:12:38.079 midst of this you also have the six trumpet. These 1383 01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:40.439 four angels were abound in the aufrateers, so I also 1384 01:12:40.479 --> 01:12:44.560 believe we're bound in the days of Noah. But they 1385 01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:50.159 clearly were warrior, serious warrior angels because they you know, 1386 01:12:50.199 --> 01:12:51.960 they lead an assault and wipe out a third of 1387 01:12:51.960 --> 01:12:54.680 the population. Right, they killed they I mean they are 1388 01:12:54.720 --> 01:12:57.479 they're killing, you know, over a billion people. And so 1389 01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:03.920 what I see there is, you know, Jesus said, as 1390 01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:05.359 it was in the days of Noah. But he said 1391 01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:08.159 also likewise, as it was in the days of Lot. 1392 01:13:08.199 --> 01:13:10.640 And what I show is, I believe what were these 1393 01:13:10.720 --> 01:13:13.520 two judgments of the fifth trumpet and the sixth trumpet 1394 01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:18.119 are what I call quantum repetitions, dynamic repetitions through time 1395 01:13:18.439 --> 01:13:20.239 of the judgment in the days of Noah and the 1396 01:13:20.319 --> 01:13:23.279 days of Lot. How is that when we see the again, 1397 01:13:23.279 --> 01:13:26.720 it's connected to time. At the fifth trumpet, we're told 1398 01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:30.319 that these locusts who don't harm the grass, so they're 1399 01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:32.680 not really insects. I believe they are. Again the grotesque 1400 01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:35.159 figures of these fallen angels are now being degraded. It says, 1401 01:13:35.279 --> 01:13:39.119 they torment those who do not have the seal of God. 1402 01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:42.119 So the unsaved world, the unsaved people of the world, 1403 01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:47.000 they torment them for five months, right, one hundred and 1404 01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:49.960 fifty days on the Hebrew calendar. When you go back, 1405 01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:52.239 and I show this in judgment the Flim I talk 1406 01:13:52.279 --> 01:13:55.760 about that Assyrian who I believe was the fallen angel 1407 01:13:55.800 --> 01:13:59.039 who led the rebellion in the days of Noah, who 1408 01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:02.359 also I believe is called abad On Apollo, who's the 1409 01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:05.680 king of the bottomless pit. That when in Ezekiel chapter 1410 01:14:05.760 --> 01:14:09.039 thirty one it describes his rise and fall, and God 1411 01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:11.319 says the end of Ezekiel thirty one, then the day 1412 01:14:11.399 --> 01:14:14.000 he judged him, the day he was dragged down to 1413 01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:17.199 the Abyss, God says I, he said, God says I abated. 1414 01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:19.880 The flood waters were abated, they were assuage, the flood 1415 01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:25.039 waters were restrained. Going to Genesis chapter eight, when you 1416 01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:27.359 look at the chronology of the flood, right, the flood 1417 01:14:27.439 --> 01:14:31.479 destroyed the Nephilim. It destroyed the Nephilum, destroyed all the 1418 01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:33.279 earth except for Noah and his family. On the arc, 1419 01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:36.119 I believe the angels were dragged downto the Abyss. It 1420 01:14:36.159 --> 01:14:39.520 was after one hundred and fifty days, that is when 1421 01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:43.760 the floodwaters were restrained and returned back down down to 1422 01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:46.920 the Abyss, dragging the angels with them. So I make 1423 01:14:47.000 --> 01:14:49.159 the connection of one hundred and fifty days of judgment 1424 01:14:49.199 --> 01:14:51.199 before the angels were brought down to the Abyss, then 1425 01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:53.399 they were released from the Abyss in the end times, 1426 01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:56.399 and now they torment the unsaved world for one hundred 1427 01:14:56.399 --> 01:14:59.279 and fifty days as it was in the days of Noah. 1428 01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:02.439 Get to the sixth trumpet, and when we're told you 1429 01:15:02.439 --> 01:15:05.119 have these four angels again who are released from the 1430 01:15:05.239 --> 01:15:09.880 who are bound below the river Euphrates, and now they 1431 01:15:10.159 --> 01:15:14.359 are set for a judgment. Says for a year, a month, 1432 01:15:14.560 --> 01:15:19.439 a day, and an hour, which again on the Hebrew 1433 01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:22.880 calendar is three hundred and ninety two days. And so 1434 01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:25.159 what does that mean? What's the connection there? What I 1435 01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:28.159 show is I just put out the chronologies you just 1436 01:15:28.199 --> 01:15:30.600 see again in the book of Genesis, when you go 1437 01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:34.479 from the time of the of the flood to when 1438 01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:37.880 God is getting preparing to judge Sodom and gomor it 1439 01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:40.439 to three hundred and ninety two years. And so I 1440 01:15:40.479 --> 01:15:42.560 believe it's just a day for a year punishment which 1441 01:15:42.600 --> 01:15:44.920 God says at certain times. You know in number thirteen, 1442 01:15:45.560 --> 01:15:48.600 when the twelve Spies come back and they rebel against God. 1443 01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:52.560 Ten rebel, god'sitding to judge you forty years a day 1444 01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:54.680 for a year. In the book of Ezekiel, God judges, 1445 01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:56.840 he makes Ezekiel lay on his side for three hundred 1446 01:15:56.880 --> 01:15:59.720 and ninety days a day for a year of judgment 1447 01:15:59.760 --> 01:16:03.600 again Israel. So I believe we're seeing the days of 1448 01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:06.319 Noah at the fifth trumpet, the days of Lot at 1449 01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:09.319 the sixth trumpet, and obviously the unsaved world being judged 1450 01:16:09.359 --> 01:16:11.439 and wiped out, you know, a third of the population 1451 01:16:11.479 --> 01:16:11.920 wiped out. 1452 01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:17.239 Okay, and all right, so anything you guys have on that, 1453 01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:20.840 then we go into the seventh trumpet, right, would be 1454 01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:21.760 the next. 1455 01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:24.600 I'll touch on just a little bit of what Ryan 1456 01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:30.279 was talking about. So yeah, I mean these were you know, 1457 01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:35.760 angels that were chained, right, So loyal angels aren't chained, 1458 01:16:37.159 --> 01:16:41.880 so they're fallen angels reserved to cause destruction to human 1459 01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:45.920 kind for a specific period of time, which leads into 1460 01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:49.079 the two hundred million man war that most people think 1461 01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:51.520 is Armageddon. I tend to think it's the Joel one 1462 01:16:51.600 --> 01:16:53.560 and two war and the Ezekiel thirty eight and thirty 1463 01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:57.239 nine war, the counterfeit Armageddon, And just as Joel talks about, 1464 01:16:57.239 --> 01:16:59.840 it's the greatest armies though that was ever assembled or ever. 1465 01:17:00.359 --> 01:17:02.760 So the armies are bigger there than there will be 1466 01:17:02.840 --> 01:17:06.680 at Armageddon, and we don't get any numbers that are uh, 1467 01:17:07.079 --> 01:17:10.239 you know, for you further on passages and revelation to 1468 01:17:10.279 --> 01:17:17.000 the numbers in Armageddon. And what's interesting about the woes 1469 01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:20.680 that are that that are happening at the at this 1470 01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:24.119 time of the trumpets and those that are released from 1471 01:17:24.159 --> 01:17:28.159 the abyss is the first woe, right, So this is 1472 01:17:28.239 --> 01:17:30.760 this is important stuff. And people who don't have the 1473 01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:33.479 seal or whether or not it's Christians or it's just 1474 01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:37.119 one hundred and forty four thousand good arguments on both sides, 1475 01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:40.319 they're going to be stung by these things for five 1476 01:17:40.359 --> 01:17:42.600 months and they're going to want death and it's not 1477 01:17:42.640 --> 01:17:45.159 going to come. This is going to be horrific for 1478 01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:49.159 whoever they run run across on. It's interesting that the 1479 01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:54.920 Hebrew word for scorpion is a crab. And it's also 1480 01:17:55.079 --> 01:18:01.720 interesting that in Sumeria in pre flood times they had 1481 01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:09.039 these warrior gods that were part of it says created 1482 01:18:09.119 --> 01:18:12.039 by TMT, But I think it's I don't think they 1483 01:18:12.079 --> 01:18:15.720 create gods. I think they're just part of the angelic saba, 1484 01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:19.560 host of heaven an army. That these are the warrior 1485 01:18:20.279 --> 01:18:25.079 destroyer type of angels that they you know, rebelled against 1486 01:18:25.119 --> 01:18:29.439 God with in, you know, in the original rebellion, and 1487 01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:33.640 that they were called the Akraba Malou sometimes also called 1488 01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:36.760 the Girda Balou. But they are if you look at 1489 01:18:36.840 --> 01:18:40.880 the depictions on the release, if you if you google that, 1490 01:18:41.159 --> 01:18:44.800 they are almost identical for the description of these things 1491 01:18:44.840 --> 01:18:48.560 coming out of the Abyss. And they had the ability 1492 01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:51.960 to destroy the world. Is the power of the weapons 1493 01:18:52.279 --> 01:18:55.880 that these things had, and they they act exactly the same. 1494 01:18:56.000 --> 01:19:01.760 So Ryan was saying that it's his belief that these 1495 01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:05.960 are degraded falling in angels in a different sort of 1496 01:19:06.039 --> 01:19:09.520 stature than that what they would have had before they 1497 01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:12.199 were sentenced. And I think that makes a lot of sense. 1498 01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:16.039 And we see that in another group of angels that 1499 01:19:16.319 --> 01:19:20.279 probably if they were degraded after the flood, they would 1500 01:19:20.279 --> 01:19:22.000 have ended up going to the Abyss for the same 1501 01:19:22.039 --> 01:19:26.439 types of crimes as the ones angels before the flood. 1502 01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:30.880 And that's the satire. And that's the Hebrew word saire, 1503 01:19:31.840 --> 01:19:36.520 and it's a contracted word, and air is the word 1504 01:19:36.680 --> 01:19:39.880 that and some people just say ear is the Hebrew 1505 01:19:39.880 --> 01:19:42.439 word that's used four times in the den in the 1506 01:19:42.439 --> 01:19:47.479 Book of Daniel, chapter four for watcher and saw is 1507 01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:50.119 a short and formed in that contracted word for harry 1508 01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:54.520 or shaggy, and that the definition of satyre saire is 1509 01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:58.520 a shagy goat god or a harry goat god, or 1510 01:19:58.560 --> 01:20:02.079 a shaggy goat, as it's also used in the Old Testament. 1511 01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:08.159 And these are degraded watchers, the satiers, just like the 1512 01:20:08.239 --> 01:20:13.760 scorpions are. And so I think he's bang on that 1513 01:20:13.800 --> 01:20:17.600 these are the you know, the the destroyer class that 1514 01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:25.119 a baddened Apolyon. And I think is Azel the scapegoat 1515 01:20:25.159 --> 01:20:28.680 who was the destroyer of the world, just a scapegoat, 1516 01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:31.640 goes back in the King James version Bible too, Azazel 1517 01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:35.520 for all of the sins of the anti deliving world 1518 01:20:35.520 --> 01:20:39.079 and taught the world the arts of making weapons, the 1519 01:20:39.199 --> 01:20:42.159 art of war that wasn't there before. That is, you know, 1520 01:20:42.239 --> 01:20:45.239 the cause of the violence through the demigod Nuffling that 1521 01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:51.239 paraded the world along with the universal religion, into absolute destruction. 1522 01:20:51.359 --> 01:20:54.119 And what's also interesting about what Ryan had said earlier 1523 01:20:54.199 --> 01:20:56.880 that and I thought was really good. He was he 1524 01:20:56.920 --> 01:21:02.159 was He's thinking that somehow, some way, there is a 1525 01:21:02.199 --> 01:21:06.119 possession or as the polytheist would probably call it in 1526 01:21:06.159 --> 01:21:10.159 this case, an avatar avatara effect going on with the 1527 01:21:10.279 --> 01:21:13.199 leader of the Abyss, who is going to be the 1528 01:21:13.239 --> 01:21:17.399 Avatar with the Avatara Antichrist and give him additional power 1529 01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:22.119 in the end time. And what's interesting is that the 1530 01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:25.640 Son of Perdition is part of a Greek set of 1531 01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:29.760 Greek words that are associated with Apollion and goes through 1532 01:21:29.800 --> 01:21:34.800 to God's like Apollo, and that he is either allegorically 1533 01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:38.279 a son of Azazel or a bad Napoleon, because those 1534 01:21:38.279 --> 01:21:40.439 are titles, they're not an angel's name. It ends inn 1535 01:21:40.479 --> 01:21:43.159 el for an angel's name. So it's a title, just 1536 01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:46.399 as Shiva is a destroyer God and the equivalent god 1537 01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:50.560 in the Hindu pantheon. And so it seems like perhaps 1538 01:21:50.640 --> 01:21:54.039 maybe at the time of the mortal wound, just before 1539 01:21:54.079 --> 01:21:58.039 the midpoint of the last seven years that Antichrist receives, 1540 01:21:58.079 --> 01:22:03.119 maybe that's the point where that incarnation as has been 1541 01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:09.840 inserted into Christianity, which is a polytheis term that Shiva 1542 01:22:10.039 --> 01:22:13.119 and Vishnu used to do, like Vishnu was the incarnation 1543 01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:16.079 into Buddha, just as Antichrist is going to be the 1544 01:22:16.159 --> 01:22:20.560 new Buddha. It's a it's not a Christian concept. We 1545 01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:23.720 have to be careful of that term, and that's why 1546 01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:29.239 they look at Antichrist as being a as an incarnation 1547 01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:31.479 for the end time, because he's just one of many 1548 01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:34.520 that have come along that these gods have gone into. 1549 01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:39.000 And we know biblically angels can do this because Satan 1550 01:22:39.239 --> 01:22:44.800 entered into Judas just before the crucifixion to go through 1551 01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:47.800 with betraying Jesus because he was struggling to do that. 1552 01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:52.079 So we know Satan and angels by extension would have 1553 01:22:52.119 --> 01:22:54.039 that ability to do that. So I just thought i'd 1554 01:22:54.119 --> 01:22:56.399 underline that point that Ryan's made a couple of times 1555 01:22:56.399 --> 01:23:00.159 on the scorpion angels into. 1556 01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:02.239 Yeah, that was all interesting right there. So then we 1557 01:23:02.319 --> 01:23:04.800 got the seventh trumpet and then we got the the 1558 01:23:04.840 --> 01:23:07.640 plagues after that, right the seven plagues or the vials 1559 01:23:07.760 --> 01:23:10.760 or some some people would call it, or bulls is 1560 01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:11.840 another thing they would call it. 1561 01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:14.119 Uh, the seven is that the wrath that you were 1562 01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:15.279 talking about, Gary. 1563 01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:19.079 It is, and we it's the it's the year of 1564 01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:22.520 the Lord's wrath that the Old Testament talks about being 1565 01:23:22.840 --> 01:23:27.239 poured out, poured out over the last time of the 1566 01:23:27.319 --> 01:23:31.199 day of the Lord. And so these wrath bulls are 1567 01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:35.279 going to effect sometime into Antichrist reign, so they're not 1568 01:23:35.439 --> 01:23:38.359 starting right at his reign. He's going to have a 1569 01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:41.680 rain where things start, you know, are are going I 1570 01:23:41.720 --> 01:23:44.560 think reasonably well. But then the wars and things, just 1571 01:23:44.640 --> 01:23:48.239 as in Daniel eleven, after the abomination, we start to 1572 01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:51.520 see some of those wars, that some of the pushback 1573 01:23:51.640 --> 01:23:55.520 from the rest of the countries around the world. And 1574 01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:59.680 so uh, it's I always find it astounding how the 1575 01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:03.000 image and the prophetic language of the Old Testament and 1576 01:24:03.039 --> 01:24:06.800 the New Testament always matches up in perfection. And so 1577 01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:09.279 if we look at that as a year of the 1578 01:24:09.359 --> 01:24:13.479 Lord's wrath, the year of his vengeance, and I won't 1579 01:24:13.479 --> 01:24:16.640 go through all the different passages on that, then that's 1580 01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:20.319 the time of the wrath pulls, and that's what we're 1581 01:24:20.359 --> 01:24:22.560 not going to be part of because that's reserved for 1582 01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:25.880 the people who take the mark worship anti Christ and 1583 01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:26.920 worship Satan. 1584 01:24:27.800 --> 01:24:30.520 Ryan or Scott either one. 1585 01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:36.960 Well, I would say that to me, the wrath of 1586 01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:39.640 God is falling throughout the last three and a half years. 1587 01:24:39.800 --> 01:24:43.760 That is what I see happening, because clearly the. 1588 01:24:45.239 --> 01:24:48.520 Angels loose from the bottomless pit and the huge army 1589 01:24:48.560 --> 01:24:54.399 from Joel chapter two that's in the sixth seal. Are 1590 01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:56.960 God's wrath upon this earth? You know, I don't think 1591 01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:00.680 they're there to give tribulation to the saints, necessarily to 1592 01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:04.760 torment those that don't take the mark. And also it's 1593 01:25:05.239 --> 01:25:08.000 true that during the entire three and a half year 1594 01:25:08.399 --> 01:25:10.880 second half of the three and a half years is 1595 01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:14.560 when I believe this the Everlasting Gospel is being preached 1596 01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:18.199 to me. Once Moses and Elijah or whoever the two 1597 01:25:18.239 --> 01:25:22.279 witnesses are finish their testimony, I believe they're going to 1598 01:25:22.359 --> 01:25:24.520 be caught up along with the one hundred and forty 1599 01:25:24.560 --> 01:25:28.880 four thousand, and I would call that amid tribulation rapture 1600 01:25:28.920 --> 01:25:33.000 of that group of people. But once they leave Israel flees, 1601 01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:36.439 that's when the war and Revelation twelve takes place and 1602 01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:39.560 the angels are cast down. So to me, all the 1603 01:25:39.680 --> 01:25:41.800 entire three and a half years, at the last half 1604 01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:44.880 are the ones is God's wrath being poured down. I 1605 01:25:44.920 --> 01:25:47.680 equate the day of the Lord as the entire thousand 1606 01:25:47.720 --> 01:25:51.520 year reign of Christ plus the darkness of the last 1607 01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:53.000 three and a half years, because the Day of the 1608 01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:55.359 Lord is darkness and not light. And yet when the 1609 01:25:55.359 --> 01:25:58.359 Lord comes, he's the day spring, the day dawns, and 1610 01:25:58.399 --> 01:26:00.479 he brings light back. So it's the day of the 1611 01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:02.479 Lord the whole time. He's her reigning on the earth. 1612 01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:05.319 But it begins with wrath, just as the Hebrew day 1613 01:26:05.359 --> 01:26:09.199 starts with the evening and then the morning. And incidentally, 1614 01:26:09.239 --> 01:26:11.920 that everlasting Gospel is being preached by an angel. No 1615 01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:14.720 humans are left to preach a gospel during the last 1616 01:26:14.720 --> 01:26:17.600 three and a half years. It's angels saying, don't take 1617 01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:22.399 the mark, worship God and come out of Babylon, which 1618 01:26:22.520 --> 01:26:26.039 to me is apostate Jerusalem under the auspices of the Antichrist. 1619 01:26:26.039 --> 01:26:28.640 But that's another another story. 1620 01:26:29.199 --> 01:26:36.399 Okay, Ryan, we're on the seven bulls now right, Go ahead, Gary. 1621 01:26:37.000 --> 01:26:40.159 So I look at the gospel being preached that Jesus 1622 01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:42.279 talks about as being a first three and a half 1623 01:26:42.399 --> 01:26:47.520 year event, and just as it happens before the abomination 1624 01:26:47.920 --> 01:26:51.199 in the chronology that he provides, part of that gospel 1625 01:26:51.239 --> 01:26:54.199 being preaches one hundred and forty four thousand and the 1626 01:26:54.199 --> 01:27:01.000 two Witnesses, and then at Revelation fourteen six you get 1627 01:27:01.039 --> 01:27:05.479 the final Angel that is going to preach the final Gospel, 1628 01:27:05.800 --> 01:27:10.840 and then we get that interesting summary afterwards for the 1629 01:27:10.840 --> 01:27:12.800 summary of the last three and a half years. So 1630 01:27:13.159 --> 01:27:16.159 that's kind of the cutoff of that preaching of the Gospel. 1631 01:27:16.640 --> 01:27:18.279 And then you go into the last three and a 1632 01:27:18.359 --> 01:27:21.159 half years, and I think you're going to see horrible 1633 01:27:21.199 --> 01:27:23.199 events all the way through the three and a half years, 1634 01:27:23.199 --> 01:27:25.840 but I still look at the year of the Lord's 1635 01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:31.920 favor and then the year of the Lord's wrath. Ryan. 1636 01:27:34.119 --> 01:27:36.960 Yeah, So I mean these are all excellent points, and 1637 01:27:38.520 --> 01:27:42.000 I would just add two things. One that you know, 1638 01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:45.880 Gary kind of already alluded to how we're seeing this 1639 01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:48.520 kind of again the repetition, right, So much of this 1640 01:27:48.640 --> 01:27:50.720 I believe was like, you know, repetition of the Exodus 1641 01:27:50.800 --> 01:27:53.199 judgments and even mentioned before a second Exodus, Right, this 1642 01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:56.479 is like God is now directing his judgment in a 1643 01:27:56.520 --> 01:28:00.960 similar fashion. Water turn to blood, sores, boils on the skin. 1644 01:28:01.239 --> 01:28:03.079 So we're seeing this repetition of the excess and then 1645 01:28:03.199 --> 01:28:09.640 even darkness directed specifically at the Antichrist's seat at his throne. 1646 01:28:10.039 --> 01:28:12.039 So I would add that and the other thing too, 1647 01:28:12.079 --> 01:28:15.800 to remember when we think about the witnesses, the one 1648 01:28:15.880 --> 01:28:19.359 hundred and forty four thousand, the angel that's actually preaching 1649 01:28:19.399 --> 01:28:21.439 to the world saying don't take the mark of the beast. 1650 01:28:22.279 --> 01:28:25.600 Is that there is gonna be massive I believe, supernatural 1651 01:28:25.600 --> 01:28:28.920 deception from the Antichrist, from the false prophet, and from 1652 01:28:29.039 --> 01:28:31.560 all the angels that are now on earth. Right the 1653 01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:35.439 veil is removed, It says that, so the you know, 1654 01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:39.239 think about the world has to be massively deceived to 1655 01:28:39.439 --> 01:28:42.239 just embrace the Antichrist. The Revelation thirteen says they're gonna 1656 01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:45.720 worship Satan even during the vile judgments and the and 1657 01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:49.439 the trumpet judgments, they still don't repent. God brings these 1658 01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:54.439 cataclysmic judgments death, a third the population dies, and people 1659 01:28:54.560 --> 01:28:58.000 still don't repent, it says, of their sorceries. So people 1660 01:28:58.039 --> 01:29:00.000 are gonna really you know. And of course in Matthew 1661 01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:02.199 twenty four is that even the elect could be deceived 1662 01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:04.159 if it were possible. So this is going to be 1663 01:29:04.840 --> 01:29:09.600 mind blowing supernatural deception taking place. And so I agree 1664 01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:11.079 with all the other points, just wanted to add that 1665 01:29:11.159 --> 01:29:13.399 as well as to why you see the people still 1666 01:29:13.439 --> 01:29:17.960 are resisting God after all of this, you know, cataclysmic judgment. 1667 01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:22.279 Incidentally, the word sorceries there you mentioned in Revelation is 1668 01:29:22.319 --> 01:29:27.880 the Greek word pharmacopedia, which to do with drugs, pharmaceuticals. 1669 01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:29.960 Yeah, so interesting. 1670 01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:34.079 Well, and what's interesting is Babylon deceives the world with 1671 01:29:34.199 --> 01:29:36.479 her sorceries Pharmakaia. 1672 01:29:36.560 --> 01:29:36.960 And. 1673 01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:42.039 Babylon is going to be the one who sets up 1674 01:29:42.039 --> 01:29:46.479 the beast system for Antichrist. That's going to include the 1675 01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:51.720 implant system, right, that's going to be delivering as the 1676 01:29:51.800 --> 01:29:56.880 Davos people were saying in twenty seventeen, they want digitally 1677 01:29:56.920 --> 01:30:01.159 applied medicine through the implant system, and they're going to 1678 01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:04.319 deliver this within that sort of manner that connects to 1679 01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:08.640 all the other different sort of technologies through the healthcare system. 1680 01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:12.039 And people are going to demand it because I think 1681 01:30:12.199 --> 01:30:17.840 most of I think the seals and the trumpet judgments 1682 01:30:17.880 --> 01:30:23.279 are contrived catastrophes by the rulers of the earth and 1683 01:30:23.359 --> 01:30:26.840 again separate from the wrath of God that is reserved 1684 01:30:26.960 --> 01:30:31.239 for the people who, as you know, we've talked about 1685 01:30:31.520 --> 01:30:35.479 taking the market worshiping Satan an Antichrist. So I just 1686 01:30:35.520 --> 01:30:39.159 think that's just so kind of interesting in terms of 1687 01:30:39.199 --> 01:30:42.239 looking at it from from that kind of perspective that 1688 01:30:42.359 --> 01:30:43.039 really is. 1689 01:30:43.039 --> 01:30:45.439 You're not saying that Davos Group has anything to do 1690 01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:47.279 with the Serpent Brotherhood, are you, Gary? 1691 01:30:47.319 --> 01:30:48.800 I sure hope they aren't. 1692 01:30:49.239 --> 01:30:51.720 Yeah yeah, or the Committee of Three under no, nothing 1693 01:30:51.760 --> 01:30:52.159 to do with that. 1694 01:30:54.920 --> 01:30:55.119 Ah. 1695 01:30:55.520 --> 01:30:57.520 Yes, Now we're getting into some deep stuff, all right. 1696 01:30:57.600 --> 01:31:00.279 So all right, so we got the sixth Bowl, then 1697 01:31:00.319 --> 01:31:05.199 the seventh bull is poured. Okay, so thunder lightning earthquake 1698 01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:08.119 destroys the cities of the world. Okay, uh, now we 1699 01:31:08.199 --> 01:31:11.439 got the seventh Bull. So what's next after that? What's happened? 1700 01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:14.760 What happened? What's after the twenty one judgments? What's next? 1701 01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:16.039 Ryan? 1702 01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:17.800 You could you could take it? Since I think. 1703 01:31:19.840 --> 01:31:28.920 A sure sure, so yeah, yeah, yeah. So so it's interesting. Right, 1704 01:31:28.960 --> 01:31:33.199 so you have at the at the sixth bowl right now, 1705 01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:35.800 you have the drying up of the euphrates right first, 1706 01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:37.600 you have the angels coming from it at the at 1707 01:31:37.640 --> 01:31:41.000 the sixth trumpet. But now now we're getting ready for 1708 01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:43.600 you know, the war, right for the gathering of the 1709 01:31:43.720 --> 01:31:45.720 armies at Army Geddon. And I mentioned this before that 1710 01:31:45.760 --> 01:31:50.600 I believe Armygeddon is really a series of battles that 1711 01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:53.760 Gary mentioned before. The prophecies we see in Ezekiel, and 1712 01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:56.399 of course in Revelation twelve, with the remnant is taken 1713 01:31:56.439 --> 01:31:59.239 into the wilderness to be supernaturally protected by God, the 1714 01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:02.600 believing remnant. And I believe Jesus even says he's going 1715 01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:05.319 to preach with the preach to them and plead with them, 1716 01:32:05.800 --> 01:32:08.640 and try them and teach them right, so again a 1717 01:32:08.680 --> 01:32:11.199 repetition of the exous. I believe that's going to take 1718 01:32:11.239 --> 01:32:14.880 place in Edom Basra while you have it Armageddon, which 1719 01:32:14.960 --> 01:32:19.239 I believe is where the Antichrist gathers his armies right 1720 01:32:19.319 --> 01:32:23.800 so northwest of Jerusalem and then heads on a warpath 1721 01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:28.720 towards Jerusalem, heading south by southeast, while the Lord Jesus 1722 01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:32.479 Christ is coming north by northwest, meeting at Jerusalem, which 1723 01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:35.079 I believe is where the final battle takes place. So 1724 01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:36.960 they drive them through. Phrase is really the time to 1725 01:32:37.079 --> 01:32:40.760 marshal the armies for this final assault on Jerusalem to 1726 01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:43.560 war with Jesus. And I believe you see the prophecies 1727 01:32:43.600 --> 01:32:46.319 again that say who is this coming from Eden with 1728 01:32:46.479 --> 01:32:50.720 blood stained garments? In Revelation nineteen, we already see Jesus 1729 01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:54.079 coming and it says he already has blood on his robes. 1730 01:32:54.079 --> 01:32:57.520 And I believe because he's battling the enemy forces all 1731 01:32:57.680 --> 01:33:00.960 the way to clash with the Antichrist at Jerusalem where 1732 01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:03.039 he's going to be ultimately judged. I believe right in 1733 01:33:03.119 --> 01:33:05.359 the Valley of jehosephat mm. 1734 01:33:06.800 --> 01:33:10.520 Interesting. Anything to add Scott or or Gary to that, 1735 01:33:12.279 --> 01:33:13.439 I'll let Scott go first. 1736 01:33:15.159 --> 01:33:15.479 Thanks. 1737 01:33:15.560 --> 01:33:18.479 I'll just say yeah, I mean somewhere in there is 1738 01:33:18.640 --> 01:33:22.600 the the judgment of the Great Horror, and I'll suspect 1739 01:33:22.640 --> 01:33:27.079 it coincides there. I do think mystery Babylon has to 1740 01:33:27.119 --> 01:33:31.560 do with this, this antichrist alignment of Jerusalem, but him 1741 01:33:31.600 --> 01:33:34.640 taking that, you know, that throne, so to speak, him 1742 01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:37.359 setting up the abomination of desolation in the temple and 1743 01:33:37.399 --> 01:33:40.720 that desecration, so that judgment is going to take place 1744 01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:44.479 as well. I think it's all coinciding that that meeting 1745 01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:47.399 to me in Jerusalem seems to be the the h 1746 01:33:47.800 --> 01:33:50.760 where everything's culminating. I would agree with Ryan on that. 1747 01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:53.359 So yeah, I would say a couple of things on 1748 01:33:53.439 --> 01:33:56.439 this is is that I would place the place of 1749 01:33:56.760 --> 01:34:04.680 armageddon closer to Mount Herman, and I agree with I 1750 01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:06.840 got something flashing on my screen here that we go 1751 01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:10.920 get it away. I would agree with some others who 1752 01:34:11.000 --> 01:34:14.359 would say that that g it should be understood in 1753 01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:19.600 Armageddon as silent that happened in about the time of Tiberius. 1754 01:34:19.960 --> 01:34:24.880 So it would be Horrors and Mountain Harror Madonne, which 1755 01:34:24.960 --> 01:34:29.119 is the word for congregation. And I think the Council 1756 01:34:29.199 --> 01:34:32.560 of the Gods was located on Mount Herman. And I 1757 01:34:32.560 --> 01:34:34.960 won't go through all the details, but I think that's 1758 01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:36.680 where you're going to have it, on the slopes of 1759 01:34:36.840 --> 01:34:39.960 Mount Hermon and then all throughout right into the valleys 1760 01:34:40.000 --> 01:34:42.720 of Lebanon because of the size of the armies and 1761 01:34:42.760 --> 01:34:46.039 things like that, and that Jesus is coming not only 1762 01:34:46.119 --> 01:34:50.119 from Bosra and Edam, but he is exerting judgment. Either 1763 01:34:50.119 --> 01:34:53.760 Antichrist is doing it or Jesus is doing it with 1764 01:34:54.319 --> 01:34:59.880 also Ammon and Moab and a couple of other countries. 1765 01:34:59.880 --> 01:35:02.399 But it's not always clear to me that could be 1766 01:35:02.520 --> 01:35:06.039 Antichrist as he's marching back and north, that he's going 1767 01:35:06.039 --> 01:35:09.960 through and doing that destruction as described in Daniel eleven. 1768 01:35:10.600 --> 01:35:13.640 So I would like I said, I would just place 1769 01:35:13.720 --> 01:35:20.720 it more on the plain below Mount Herman for Armageddon. 1770 01:35:20.920 --> 01:35:26.760 And I was thinking about that drying up of the Euphrates. 1771 01:35:26.880 --> 01:35:31.239 Maybe something different than crossing the Euphrates here because there's 1772 01:35:31.239 --> 01:35:33.359 a couple, there's an event that happens in between. So 1773 01:35:33.479 --> 01:35:35.239 you could have a drying up because of all of 1774 01:35:35.279 --> 01:35:38.760 the other destruction and droughts and things that would be 1775 01:35:38.840 --> 01:35:43.000 going on. But you have this scourge that is in 1776 01:35:43.079 --> 01:35:45.680 Revelation twelve at the midpoint of the last seven years, 1777 01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:48.760 at the time Judah is going to flee Jerusalem and 1778 01:35:48.840 --> 01:35:51.319 be protected for three and a half years in the wilderness, 1779 01:35:51.840 --> 01:35:55.279 you have this scourge that is like a river that 1780 01:35:55.399 --> 01:35:57.600 the dragon or Satan is going to spew out to 1781 01:35:57.680 --> 01:36:00.680 try and kill them at that time. And as you 1782 01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:05.159 take that back to Versus in the Book of Isaiah, 1783 01:36:05.199 --> 01:36:09.039 that this overwhelming scourge is going to overwhelm end time 1784 01:36:09.520 --> 01:36:13.840 due to at that time this seems to be a 1785 01:36:13.920 --> 01:36:17.560 breaking of the dams that earn the euphrates rivers, because 1786 01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:20.319 it seems to have words in Hebrew that link back 1787 01:36:20.399 --> 01:36:24.399 to the rivers of the Euphrates that are spilling over 1788 01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:26.880 that are going to take them by day and night, 1789 01:36:26.960 --> 01:36:29.159 but God's going to protect them. And also like the 1790 01:36:29.199 --> 01:36:33.000 aspect about the connection that Ryan made into Second Exodus, 1791 01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:36.720 because again in Revelation twelve, you have God taking them 1792 01:36:36.760 --> 01:36:39.279 by the wings of eagles, which is the same words 1793 01:36:39.319 --> 01:36:42.520 that are used in the First Exodus, and so you 1794 01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:46.359 get all of those things sort of coming together from 1795 01:36:46.359 --> 01:36:48.680 that sort of aspect. And then the final thing is 1796 01:36:48.680 --> 01:36:53.560 is timing of Babylon seems to be as a destruction 1797 01:36:54.760 --> 01:36:59.359 of the universal religion, so Antichrist can set up his 1798 01:36:59.479 --> 01:37:02.800 own relie and his worship, just as is also described 1799 01:37:02.840 --> 01:37:05.520 in Daniel eleven with you know a God that his 1800 01:37:05.640 --> 01:37:09.479 fathers didn't know. And in Revelation seventeen, what's really interesting 1801 01:37:09.720 --> 01:37:11.800 is is you have the ten Kings are going to 1802 01:37:11.880 --> 01:37:15.199 hand over their beast through their power for one hour 1803 01:37:16.439 --> 01:37:20.359 so that they can destroy Babylon, and that seems to 1804 01:37:20.359 --> 01:37:24.960 be from that chronology again right after the midpoint of 1805 01:37:25.039 --> 01:37:28.479 the seven years, and then you get the mark of 1806 01:37:28.520 --> 01:37:32.079 the Beast showing loyalty to anti Christ, only in a 1807 01:37:32.119 --> 01:37:33.720 whole new religion being set up. 1808 01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:38.760 Okay, so we're now we're at the Seventh Bull, which 1809 01:37:38.840 --> 01:37:43.520 is thunder lightning, earthquake destroys the cities in the world, 1810 01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:48.039 the Great City. So so we got the Battle of Armageddon, 1811 01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:51.319 then we got the Seventh Bull, and what would be 1812 01:37:51.359 --> 01:37:54.479 after that, Guys, what's on the timeline is this Jesus 1813 01:37:54.600 --> 01:37:57.800 is coming back. You'll be back now, right? Is that 1814 01:37:57.840 --> 01:37:59.600 the next thing Jesus would be coming back? 1815 01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:03.199 Yeah, I mean we're we're closing in on Revelation nineteen Yeah. 1816 01:38:03.239 --> 01:38:07.439 Yeah, we're pretty Malaysia nineteen Sarmageddon. So Jesus is back. 1817 01:38:07.479 --> 01:38:10.800 At that point, everybody's destroyed, right, and then you start 1818 01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:12.560 the millennium. 1819 01:38:11.960 --> 01:38:12.880 Yeah, exactly. 1820 01:38:13.079 --> 01:38:17.359 And then there's the angel that takes hold of Lucifer 1821 01:38:17.439 --> 01:38:21.159 Satan and binds him with the chain for a thousand years, and. 1822 01:38:21.119 --> 01:38:24.520 Then after that we have Satan coming back. 1823 01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:27.039 Well that thousand years that we have right there is 1824 01:38:27.439 --> 01:38:30.159 uh A lot of pastors say that nobody's going to 1825 01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:32.600 be able to die, you know during that time, people 1826 01:38:32.640 --> 01:38:34.560 are going to be living for a thousand years? 1827 01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:37.000 Is that? Do you guys agree with that or what is? 1828 01:38:37.159 --> 01:38:37.399 Guess? 1829 01:38:37.960 --> 01:38:40.680 I think it's more than a lengthened lifespans. Right in 1830 01:38:40.720 --> 01:38:44.399 the Book of Isaiah, it talks about that if you 1831 01:38:44.399 --> 01:38:46.840 you know, basically, if you if you die at one 1832 01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:49.560 hundred years old, basically you're cursed. So I don't think 1833 01:38:49.760 --> 01:38:52.439 so I think people will die. It will be death, yeah, 1834 01:38:52.600 --> 01:38:55.680 moral body of physical moral bodies, but it's going to 1835 01:38:55.680 --> 01:38:57.960 make a return to how it was before the flood, 1836 01:38:58.159 --> 01:39:00.960 where lifespans were much much lower. I believe, and I 1837 01:39:00.960 --> 01:39:05.159 believe really, uh, the earth itself, right, is going to 1838 01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:08.920 be Jesus calls it in the Gospels, the regeneration that 1839 01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:10.760 he's going to recreate. I believe the earth is going 1840 01:39:10.800 --> 01:39:12.720 to return to the conditions it was like in the 1841 01:39:12.760 --> 01:39:17.079 Garden of Eden. And so you have the longer lifespans, 1842 01:39:17.119 --> 01:39:20.680 you have better vegetation, you have peace with animals and 1843 01:39:21.279 --> 01:39:23.560 man again, right, so there are no more predators and 1844 01:39:23.600 --> 01:39:27.159 things like that. So I think that explains why you 1845 01:39:27.319 --> 01:39:30.520 have the long lifespans. I think because it's a similar 1846 01:39:31.319 --> 01:39:33.960 I believe a hyperbaric environment. Actually, I believe that the 1847 01:39:33.960 --> 01:39:37.039 the world you know of the Garden of Eden was 1848 01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:41.600 and before the flood, was hyperbaric environment which prolonged lifespans, 1849 01:39:42.359 --> 01:39:45.000 blocked out UV, radiation, all these types of things that 1850 01:39:45.039 --> 01:39:46.640 can benefit life living. 1851 01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:51.159 So plus plus there's a newly built temple at that point, 1852 01:39:51.239 --> 01:39:53.199 we could say the fourth pole if you really want 1853 01:39:53.239 --> 01:39:54.239 to technical. 1854 01:39:54.920 --> 01:39:55.840 And he's Eger. 1855 01:39:55.680 --> 01:39:58.880 Describes that as a as a water that comes out 1856 01:39:58.880 --> 01:40:01.159 from under the altar that to the hinder and the 1857 01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:04.479 former sea, and trees grow along the banks that they're 1858 01:40:04.479 --> 01:40:06.199 going to use for healing of the nations, and I 1859 01:40:06.199 --> 01:40:08.960 think they'll be eating that fruit for that longevity as well. 1860 01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:10.399 I think there's going to be a lot of healing 1861 01:40:10.479 --> 01:40:12.279 going on during that time. 1862 01:40:13.239 --> 01:40:16.319 Liked Lik in the Garden of Eden, right, exactly, exactly, 1863 01:40:16.800 --> 01:40:17.199 good point. 1864 01:40:17.239 --> 01:40:22.479 Yeah, I find the Millennium absolutely fascinating in terms of 1865 01:40:22.640 --> 01:40:24.600 I mean, there's not much information, but there's a lot 1866 01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:27.960 of inferences there that I just get me thinking in 1867 01:40:27.960 --> 01:40:30.119 a thousand different directions. And one of the things is 1868 01:40:30.159 --> 01:40:35.520 that somehow there's going to be survivors yeap, other than 1869 01:40:35.800 --> 01:40:39.199 Israel that are going to go into the millennium. So 1870 01:40:39.239 --> 01:40:42.960 there will be survivors that come through those who didn't 1871 01:40:43.000 --> 01:40:46.199 take the mark obviously and weren't killed, so not everybody 1872 01:40:46.279 --> 01:40:50.520 is killed, so they're there. They weren't they weren't saved 1873 01:40:50.600 --> 01:40:53.800 from going through the wrath, right, they were part of 1874 01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:56.359 that whole thing. But some of them are going to survive, 1875 01:40:56.680 --> 01:40:59.319 and some of them are the Gentiles, because you get 1876 01:40:59.319 --> 01:41:03.800 the descendant of Magog and Gog at the end of 1877 01:41:03.840 --> 01:41:06.000 the thousand years that are going to join up with 1878 01:41:07.680 --> 01:41:10.760 Satan when Satan's released again. And I find that absolutely 1879 01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:15.000 sort of interesting. And then you have those you know 1880 01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:18.600 that were slain for taking the mark. They're going to 1881 01:41:18.680 --> 01:41:21.840 rule with Jesus for a thousand years, right, So that's 1882 01:41:21.920 --> 01:41:26.079 kind of their reward for going through earning their their 1883 01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:31.319 their their immortality by through fire. Right, they have to 1884 01:41:31.359 --> 01:41:34.439 go through the absolute fire to earn that salvation, the 1885 01:41:34.479 --> 01:41:38.199 hard way. As bad as the tribulation is, wrath is 1886 01:41:38.239 --> 01:41:45.039 way worth, way worse. And also you have and just 1887 01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:47.159 give me a second, I lost my train of thought 1888 01:41:47.199 --> 01:41:50.680 there just for a second. But you have a scenario 1889 01:41:50.880 --> 01:41:54.439 where you have something that needs to be also completed, 1890 01:41:55.079 --> 01:41:59.239 that the Book of Life was created from before creation, 1891 01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:04.119 and I think that's part of the period that there 1892 01:42:04.159 --> 01:42:08.199 will still be that last opportunity to give everybodies whose 1893 01:42:08.279 --> 01:42:10.840 names were written into that book have the opportunity to 1894 01:42:10.960 --> 01:42:14.720 keep that name there or have it erased, just as 1895 01:42:14.800 --> 01:42:17.239 what we have had through the first six thousand years. 1896 01:42:17.239 --> 01:42:19.960 And this is going to be a reign also in 1897 01:42:20.079 --> 01:42:24.039 comparative to the last six thousand years. And it's also 1898 01:42:24.079 --> 01:42:27.159 going to drive home a point to the descendants of 1899 01:42:27.239 --> 01:42:32.600 Adam is that just as the angels, even though they 1900 01:42:32.640 --> 01:42:35.640 were created immortal and they had intimate knowledge of God, 1901 01:42:35.680 --> 01:42:40.840 they knew how powerful he was, they still rebelled. Now, humankind, 1902 01:42:40.920 --> 01:42:46.399 after everything that's happened, right, and everything that they've seen 1903 01:42:46.760 --> 01:42:48.920 that happened with the people who had faith in God 1904 01:42:48.960 --> 01:42:52.079 and Jesus, how they were raised up, you're still going 1905 01:42:52.119 --> 01:42:55.239 to have a rebellion by some at the end of 1906 01:42:55.279 --> 01:42:57.800 the millennium. And I think it's part of that last 1907 01:42:57.880 --> 01:43:00.640 chapter to say, hey, you're going to be like angels, 1908 01:43:01.399 --> 01:43:06.039 but be careful because you have to choose wisely. And 1909 01:43:06.159 --> 01:43:10.199 rebellion takes you to the lake of fire, whether it's 1910 01:43:10.199 --> 01:43:13.039 for the Second Death or for the immortals, but it's 1911 01:43:13.079 --> 01:43:15.960 and for the anti Christ and and and the false prophet. 1912 01:43:16.920 --> 01:43:21.319 So it's an interesting set of teachings that that are 1913 01:43:21.359 --> 01:43:25.880 going on in that in that short little chapter, and 1914 01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:29.840 that leads into death being destroyed and everything being tossed 1915 01:43:29.840 --> 01:43:31.199 into the like of fire, and then you have the 1916 01:43:31.239 --> 01:43:33.439 resurrection also as part of that is the resurrection of 1917 01:43:33.479 --> 01:43:36.760 the dead. So yeah, it's not long, but it's just 1918 01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:38.880 got so many things wrapped in there. 1919 01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:42.640 That's a really good point, Gary, that's a really good 1920 01:43:43.079 --> 01:43:45.560 observation about the people who because I do believe, certainly 1921 01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:47.840 they're going to be survivors, right, says those who are 1922 01:43:47.880 --> 01:43:51.960 left off from the nations who came up against Jerusalem. 1923 01:43:52.560 --> 01:43:59.359 But that, Matthew, that all the sheep and the goats exactly. 1924 01:43:59.439 --> 01:44:04.039 But the idea that now you have because you have 1925 01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:06.520 several classes of beings on the earth and the millennium, right, 1926 01:44:06.560 --> 01:44:09.520 you have, I believe, the glorified Christians like the martyrs 1927 01:44:09.600 --> 01:44:11.760 you mentioned who now rule and rain. You have the Church, 1928 01:44:11.800 --> 01:44:13.840 who I believe will be in glorified byes. But then 1929 01:44:13.840 --> 01:44:16.439 you have the flesh and blood mortal humans, and you 1930 01:44:16.520 --> 01:44:19.640 have angels. But there are going to be some humans who, 1931 01:44:19.840 --> 01:44:22.760 like you said, who've lived through it all, through the Great, 1932 01:44:22.880 --> 01:44:25.880 through the Antichrist, the Great replace in the wrath Armageddon, 1933 01:44:26.039 --> 01:44:30.359 seeing Christ return and defeat everyone locked Satan away and 1934 01:44:30.880 --> 01:44:34.159 then live in peace right absence Satan's influence and still 1935 01:44:34.199 --> 01:44:39.199 rebell That's a really phenomenal observation and how it really 1936 01:44:39.279 --> 01:44:41.560 is like the angels. You know, I've never really considered that. 1937 01:44:41.560 --> 01:44:45.439 That's a really really, really really great observation. 1938 01:44:46.319 --> 01:44:49.760 Yeah, okay, so we have that, then we have after 1939 01:44:49.800 --> 01:44:53.079 the thousand years Satan is released, right. 1940 01:44:52.920 --> 01:44:57.119 And which is interesting and uh, and then we have. 1941 01:44:57.920 --> 01:45:01.600 It talks about the Gog and Magad together together to battle, Right, 1942 01:45:02.399 --> 01:45:03.199 that's interesting, Josh. 1943 01:45:03.319 --> 01:45:05.720 On that point, I might throw this thought out. 1944 01:45:06.840 --> 01:45:09.800 During the thousand year reign, the Israel is restored as 1945 01:45:09.800 --> 01:45:12.520 a priesthood people, a priesthood kingdom again, and they'll be 1946 01:45:12.600 --> 01:45:17.159 in those glorified bodies reigning with Christ. But the nations 1947 01:45:17.159 --> 01:45:20.600 that get to go into the millennium that are selected 1948 01:45:21.520 --> 01:45:26.279 in Matthew twenty five that survived, as we talked about, 1949 01:45:26.399 --> 01:45:28.640 I think they're going to have to have the opportunity 1950 01:45:28.680 --> 01:45:32.399 to believe on Christ as Lord during that time, even 1951 01:45:32.439 --> 01:45:34.680 with the longevity and everything else. Like Gary's making this 1952 01:45:34.680 --> 01:45:37.079 point about the angels, they're like angels in a way, 1953 01:45:37.640 --> 01:45:41.159 and they're required to keep the Feast of Tabernacles every 1954 01:45:41.239 --> 01:45:45.039 year to go up every year. I believe that final 1955 01:45:45.039 --> 01:45:47.279 Gog and Magog battle is going to take place during 1956 01:45:47.279 --> 01:45:50.439 a Feast of Tabernacles because it says they compass the 1957 01:45:50.479 --> 01:45:56.159 camp of the Saints surround. Well, if they're camping, that's tense, right, 1958 01:45:56.359 --> 01:45:59.319 I'm just using modern vernacular. So I would say that 1959 01:45:59.319 --> 01:46:01.920 would be the perfect time for him to attack. When 1960 01:46:01.960 --> 01:46:04.960 the Lord destroys him, you know, fire comes down yeah. 1961 01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:07.800 Fire, Yeah, basically and God uh and fire came down 1962 01:46:07.800 --> 01:46:09.800 from God out of heaven devoured him. The devil who 1963 01:46:09.800 --> 01:46:12.720 deceived them cast into the lake of fire. Brimstone and 1964 01:46:12.760 --> 01:46:15.399 beasts and false prophet are so basically they're thrown to 1965 01:46:15.479 --> 01:46:17.560 the lake of fire, and it says they are tormented 1966 01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:19.560 day and night forever and ever. 1967 01:46:19.680 --> 01:46:24.479 Okay, next will be the Great White Throne Judgment. Right 1968 01:46:25.199 --> 01:46:26.359 on that. That's the next thing. 1969 01:46:29.239 --> 01:46:32.039 When do you guys believe the the Beama Seed of 1970 01:46:32.119 --> 01:46:32.680 Christ is? 1971 01:46:32.680 --> 01:46:34.560 Is that is? Do you believe that's when you die? 1972 01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:35.920 You just that happens then? 1973 01:46:36.119 --> 01:46:39.239 Or or between the White the Great White Throne Judgment 1974 01:46:39.279 --> 01:46:41.479 and the Bema Seed of Christ, where would you guys 1975 01:46:41.479 --> 01:46:45.640 place those two are? I know that the Beema Seed 1976 01:46:45.640 --> 01:46:47.600 of Christ is for the believers and then the Great 1977 01:46:47.640 --> 01:46:49.119 White Throne Judgment is for everyone. 1978 01:46:49.199 --> 01:46:51.560 So I just had a question on that. 1979 01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:55.399 I didn't I didn't know what do you think Ryan 1980 01:46:55.840 --> 01:46:58.159 or Gary or Scott whoever would like to answer that one? 1981 01:46:58.279 --> 01:47:01.000 That's a good question. I kind of I have seen 1982 01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:06.039 the Bama seat as like an individual you know, judgment. 1983 01:47:06.079 --> 01:47:08.760 You know, yeah, it is a judgment of evaluation. However 1984 01:47:08.760 --> 01:47:09.920 you want to call it, but that you know, when 1985 01:47:09.920 --> 01:47:14.279 you die, you'll stand before God. Obviously you are saved, 1986 01:47:14.359 --> 01:47:22.079 but it's just to. 1987 01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:21.880 Put their inheritance basically your inheritance what. 1988 01:47:21.920 --> 01:47:24.399 You've done for the crown exactly. 1989 01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:28.319 Yes, So crown, your reward, and your sins are thrown 1990 01:47:28.359 --> 01:47:31.199 in into the like the fire at Yeah. 1991 01:47:31.439 --> 01:47:34.840 And if it's not our individual standing before the Lord, 1992 01:47:34.920 --> 01:47:37.560 which could take place, you know, and in the rapture 1993 01:47:37.640 --> 01:47:40.239 right afterwards and then before we come back, or it 1994 01:47:40.279 --> 01:47:42.720 could be when the Lord returns it says on his 1995 01:47:42.800 --> 01:47:44.840 head or many crowns, and maybe those are the crowns 1996 01:47:44.880 --> 01:47:47.399 he's going to be giving. You know, they're his crowns. 1997 01:47:47.439 --> 01:47:50.479 It's his glory obviously, but we may wear them too, 1998 01:47:51.000 --> 01:47:53.920 because this is we are his glory, and maybe we 1999 01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:56.000 may be reigning with him with those crowns. So it 2000 01:47:56.000 --> 01:47:59.159 could be the Beama seat is when he comes back 2001 01:47:59.199 --> 01:47:59.920 to judge the nation. 2002 01:48:00.479 --> 01:48:05.920 Yeah, okay, since thought, and I also think that there's 2003 01:48:06.399 --> 01:48:09.399 for the for the dead that rise to be judged 2004 01:48:10.920 --> 01:48:13.760 that I think the Book of Romans talks about a 2005 01:48:13.840 --> 01:48:19.520 possibility that God reserves the right to commit them to 2006 01:48:19.880 --> 01:48:23.279 the lake of fire for the second death or not. Uh, 2007 01:48:23.319 --> 01:48:27.119 And He'll judge them by their hearts and the laws 2008 01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:31.000 within their hearts and how they follow that. And so, 2009 01:48:32.560 --> 01:48:35.279 I mean, I'm not dogmatic on that, but I'm just 2010 01:48:35.319 --> 01:48:38.760 looking at what the Book of Romans discusses. And I 2011 01:48:38.800 --> 01:48:42.359 do know our God is so forgiving for that people 2012 01:48:42.439 --> 01:48:46.720 who didn't know Christ, that there's going to be some 2013 01:48:46.800 --> 01:48:52.720 sort of I guess I'm not sure what the right 2014 01:48:52.760 --> 01:49:00.239 word is, some sort of process that will give an 2015 01:49:00.239 --> 01:49:04.239 opportunity if some people were just that darn good on 2016 01:49:04.479 --> 01:49:07.840 faith of doing the right thing, that there might be 2017 01:49:07.840 --> 01:49:10.720 a reward for that. So but I leave that up 2018 01:49:10.760 --> 01:49:12.920 to God. I mean, judgment is for God, and if 2019 01:49:12.920 --> 01:49:15.680 he does or he doesn't doesn't matter to me. And 2020 01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:18.119 I don't tread on the domain of God, and he 2021 01:49:18.159 --> 01:49:21.800 can choose who he wants to give a pardon to 2022 01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:22.199 or not. 2023 01:49:23.079 --> 01:49:27.359 Yes, awesome grace, we have a beautiful, wonderful God. So 2024 01:49:27.800 --> 01:49:30.079 and then now we have at the end is all 2025 01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:32.439 things made new. Now I saw a new heaven and 2026 01:49:32.520 --> 01:49:34.800 new earth for the first heaven and the first earth 2027 01:49:34.840 --> 01:49:39.000 had passed away. I thought it was amazing that how 2028 01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:41.079 it says that God is going to come down and 2029 01:49:41.159 --> 01:49:44.439 reign with man like prepared a bride adoring for her husband. 2030 01:49:44.439 --> 01:49:47.279 I thought that was super interesting. There's gonna be God's throne, 2031 01:49:47.439 --> 01:49:49.399 so there's gonna be a new heaven and a new Earth, 2032 01:49:49.760 --> 01:49:51.920 and God is gonna be reigning with us. 2033 01:49:52.039 --> 01:49:52.520 I thought that. 2034 01:49:52.840 --> 01:49:55.600 I just I was reading through and I and honestly, 2035 01:49:55.680 --> 01:49:57.520 I've read that before and it just kind of I 2036 01:49:57.560 --> 01:49:59.439 don't know why, but sometimes when you're reading through the 2037 01:49:59.479 --> 01:50:02.560 Bible just breeched through certain parts and don't understand. But 2038 01:50:03.359 --> 01:50:06.680 as I was studying the Book of Revelation for this podcast, 2039 01:50:07.399 --> 01:50:09.079 I just went through and I read that to my 2040 01:50:09.159 --> 01:50:11.479 wife like and she's like, that almost sounds like a 2041 01:50:11.520 --> 01:50:12.039 fairy tale. 2042 01:50:12.079 --> 01:50:14.159 I'm like, babe, this is the Bible. 2043 01:50:14.239 --> 01:50:17.800 Is just it's it's it's amazing that that that happens 2044 01:50:17.840 --> 01:50:19.800 at the end, and and all the stuff that we 2045 01:50:19.880 --> 01:50:21.880 have to go through through humanity and all the stuff 2046 01:50:21.920 --> 01:50:25.119 that God has gone through with us, we end up 2047 01:50:25.479 --> 01:50:27.119 being able to reign with God. 2048 01:50:27.199 --> 01:50:31.359 I thought it was this beautiful ending to to our beginning, 2049 01:50:31.800 --> 01:50:35.279 not ending for us. It's just it's amazing. 2050 01:50:35.720 --> 01:50:40.079 And I suggest, I really suggest, honestly, guys, everybody that's 2051 01:50:40.119 --> 01:50:42.760 listening to this podcast, I suggest that you you read 2052 01:50:42.760 --> 01:50:45.600 the Book of Revelation, listen to what these gentlemen are 2053 01:50:45.680 --> 01:50:48.119 teaching you, and uh and and you know, and and 2054 01:50:48.199 --> 01:50:51.359 also there's different perspectives and everything out there, and I 2055 01:50:51.760 --> 01:50:54.920 suggest you guys study those as well because and and 2056 01:50:54.960 --> 01:50:58.640 pray to God for discernment, because there's there's different perceptions 2057 01:50:58.640 --> 01:50:59.359 and of this. 2058 01:50:59.479 --> 01:51:01.319 You know, in man is going to have different perceptions. 2059 01:51:01.319 --> 01:51:04.800 Obviously, like Brian and Gary and Scott are pretty much 2060 01:51:04.800 --> 01:51:06.560 on the same page, but you know they disagree here 2061 01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:10.439 and there. But what it is is it's a beautiful, 2062 01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:14.039 beautiful thing that God does for us in the Book 2063 01:51:14.079 --> 01:51:16.760 of Revelation. It sounds crazy and it's horrific and hard, 2064 01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:17.760 but it's. 2065 01:51:17.600 --> 01:51:18.880 Just beautiful how it ends up. 2066 01:51:18.920 --> 01:51:22.039 But I suggest, do you guys want to add anything 2067 01:51:22.079 --> 01:51:23.479 to the end of Revelation at all? 2068 01:51:23.479 --> 01:51:25.720 I don't want to take it up too much. 2069 01:51:25.720 --> 01:51:27.439 But we don't want to do that. If we add 2070 01:51:27.479 --> 01:51:28.800 to that book, we might. 2071 01:51:31.119 --> 01:51:34.439 We want the blessing, we don't want the curse. 2072 01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:38.560 I just I just think it's a sad thing that 2073 01:51:38.880 --> 01:51:41.000 what comes to my mind when I think about the 2074 01:51:41.039 --> 01:51:43.000 New Heaven, the New Earth, and New Jerusalem, and I 2075 01:51:43.039 --> 01:51:45.880 see the description of that city and I see the 2076 01:51:45.920 --> 01:51:49.600 beauty of the golden streets and the foundations of the jewels, 2077 01:51:50.079 --> 01:51:53.079 and what what my mind goes to being born on 2078 01:51:53.119 --> 01:51:55.760 to buy you is those gates made out of pearl. 2079 01:51:56.239 --> 01:51:57.399 I want to see that oyster. 2080 01:51:59.600 --> 01:52:04.680 That's right, seriously, so we got that. 2081 01:52:05.520 --> 01:52:08.399 I'd make a couple of points just on that, just 2082 01:52:08.479 --> 01:52:11.920 that we don't know when it says heavens, is it 2083 01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:14.600 sort of understood as the Greek term as the whole cosmos? 2084 01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:17.119 Or is it the Hebrew term that that's what they're 2085 01:52:17.119 --> 01:52:21.359 substituting in Greek for that meeting heavens In the Hebrew 2086 01:52:21.600 --> 01:52:24.720 is there's three heavens. There's the firmament that includes the 2087 01:52:24.760 --> 01:52:27.880 sun and everything inwards. There's the balance of the physical 2088 01:52:28.000 --> 01:52:32.239 universe after that, and then there's a heaven in heaven. 2089 01:52:33.319 --> 01:52:36.800 So we don't know which one of those three heavens 2090 01:52:36.800 --> 01:52:40.279 that that's going to be. Could be two of the heavens. 2091 01:52:40.319 --> 01:52:42.239 I don't think it's all three of the heavens, but 2092 01:52:42.319 --> 01:52:45.199 we're not real sure. And then the other thing is 2093 01:52:45.199 --> 01:52:50.520 is we're not told anything about what happens leading into 2094 01:52:50.640 --> 01:52:54.239 eternity going forward, And that's part of the faith that 2095 01:52:54.319 --> 01:52:58.119 you have to have and be rock solid on that 2096 01:52:58.159 --> 01:53:01.600 it's all going to be good and we're going to 2097 01:53:01.600 --> 01:53:05.600 be reigning, but we don't know over what, where, or anything. 2098 01:53:05.680 --> 01:53:08.119 And it's all part of the whole faith thing that 2099 01:53:08.199 --> 01:53:12.199 the Bible preaches from the time of Abraham right through 2100 01:53:12.319 --> 01:53:14.039 to the end of Revelation. 2101 01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:17.600 And Ryan, you want to add to that, not to 2102 01:53:17.680 --> 01:53:18.960 the book, just to the to the. 2103 01:53:21.760 --> 01:53:23.760 Yeah, no, I mean it's great, it's beautiful. 2104 01:53:23.880 --> 01:53:24.079 You know. 2105 01:53:24.600 --> 01:53:26.800 I love the fact that you know, you read Revelation 2106 01:53:26.920 --> 01:53:29.279 twenty one to one, right, It's it's like Genesis one 2107 01:53:29.319 --> 01:53:31.680 one all over again, a new Heaven and new Earth, 2108 01:53:31.760 --> 01:53:35.640 right got And I love that. It just shows the 2109 01:53:35.680 --> 01:53:40.119 beauty the Bible, the consistency through you know, fifteen hundred 2110 01:53:40.199 --> 01:53:45.199 years of writing, right, you know, summary Genesis from Revelation. 2111 01:53:45.319 --> 01:53:48.279 But also that just God's plan that God loves us 2112 01:53:48.279 --> 01:53:52.479 so much. You know, that's really you know, the main takeaway. 2113 01:53:52.600 --> 01:53:56.960 You know, we Revelation ends. You know, Jesus is pleading anyone, 2114 01:53:57.079 --> 01:53:59.399 you know, whoever is the thirst come, the spirit is 2115 01:53:59.439 --> 01:54:03.119 bidding you come. Enjoy this. I want to know Jesus 2116 01:54:03.119 --> 01:54:05.479 wants everyone right when he tells in the Gospels, go 2117 01:54:05.720 --> 01:54:08.079 go out into the highways and the byways and compel 2118 01:54:08.119 --> 01:54:10.279 people to come to the wedding. And that's the thing, 2119 01:54:10.319 --> 01:54:12.680 and I just love it. I just love the fact. 2120 01:54:12.880 --> 01:54:14.399 And I think Gary made a great point that you 2121 01:54:14.479 --> 01:54:17.479 have to have that great faith in the future. I'm excited. 2122 01:54:17.520 --> 01:54:20.079 I'm glad that we don't know. I'm actually undecided. I'm 2123 01:54:20.079 --> 01:54:22.279 glad that we don't know what's gonna happen in the 2124 01:54:22.319 --> 01:54:25.800 Eternal Kingdom. I'll want some surprises because I'm they want 2125 01:54:25.840 --> 01:54:28.319 to discover about as what are we going to be doing, 2126 01:54:28.359 --> 01:54:31.760 what are we ruling over right? We don't know, but 2127 01:54:31.840 --> 01:54:34.239 I'm excited for it. And I just think that, you know, 2128 01:54:34.359 --> 01:54:37.119 the most important thing is that Jesus says, you know, 2129 01:54:37.159 --> 01:54:40.079 he closes very personally by saying, I'm writing this like 2130 01:54:40.199 --> 01:54:44.319 to you to invite you. And so I hope that 2131 01:54:44.840 --> 01:54:48.720 people see that it's a beautiful, beautiful story, that we 2132 01:54:48.760 --> 01:54:50.319 know the end at least up until that we know 2133 01:54:50.359 --> 01:54:52.720 the evil is gonna lose, and that they can trust 2134 01:54:52.760 --> 01:54:57.840 in God's promises and his invitation and receive it for sure. 2135 01:54:57.960 --> 01:55:01.039 Jason, any last words, Jason before you go, You're kind 2136 01:55:01.039 --> 01:55:01.760 of work tomorrow. 2137 01:55:02.119 --> 01:55:03.000 No, man, I'm good. 2138 01:55:07.560 --> 01:55:11.119 I'm trying to get some some shutout, stay away. 2139 01:55:12.159 --> 01:55:13.319 Yeah, it's all good. It's all good. 2140 01:55:13.319 --> 01:55:15.920 Hey, I have did a sixteen hour night last night too, 2141 01:55:16.000 --> 01:55:18.119 so and now Scott, thank you. I know you have 2142 01:55:18.199 --> 01:55:21.880 to work too, and I appreciate it. And everybody that's listening, 2143 01:55:21.880 --> 01:55:23.720 I just want to say, well, first off, I want 2144 01:55:23.720 --> 01:55:24.760 to say thank you to Gary. 2145 01:55:24.960 --> 01:55:27.479 Thank you, Scott, thank you, Ryan, thank you Jason. 2146 01:55:28.319 --> 01:55:32.560 I really appreciate everybody, you know, to have you know, 2147 01:55:32.600 --> 01:55:35.840 when I first started this podcast, to have Gary, Wayne. 2148 01:55:35.600 --> 01:55:37.680 And then Scott and Ryan on it, it just it 2149 01:55:37.800 --> 01:55:38.720 just blows my mind. 2150 01:55:38.760 --> 01:55:38.840 You know. 2151 01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:41.239 I used to watch Gary back in the day, you know, 2152 01:55:41.359 --> 01:55:44.359 and on the fourth watch and listen, and just to 2153 01:55:44.439 --> 01:55:45.760 have you guys on is amazing. 2154 01:55:45.800 --> 01:55:46.920 You know, God is great. 2155 01:55:47.279 --> 01:55:48.760 I thank the Lord for this, you know, and I 2156 01:55:48.840 --> 01:55:51.439 appreciate this opportunity, and I appreciate you guys all showing 2157 01:55:51.520 --> 01:55:54.399 up and and you know, and and coming and and 2158 01:55:54.640 --> 01:55:58.159 sharing all this research that you guys have done. You know, 2159 01:55:58.279 --> 01:56:01.319 there's deep, deep research that goes into this. I've only 2160 01:56:01.359 --> 01:56:03.399 been doing this podcasting for about like a year and 2161 01:56:03.439 --> 01:56:05.039 a half, and it's there's so. 2162 01:56:05.079 --> 01:56:06.920 Much research going into each episode. 2163 01:56:06.960 --> 01:56:08.960 I can imagine all the books that you guys are 2164 01:56:08.960 --> 01:56:11.039 writing in all the time and effort you put in. 2165 01:56:11.079 --> 01:56:14.239 So I appreciate you guys taking the time out for 2166 01:56:14.279 --> 01:56:18.399 this for our audience, you know, and thank you everybody 2167 01:56:18.399 --> 01:56:21.479 that's listening. I just want to say, you know, the 2168 01:56:21.560 --> 01:56:25.000 Bible is just right now. Is the time, guys, just 2169 01:56:24.640 --> 01:56:26.319 to just to pick up the Bible. I know that 2170 01:56:26.439 --> 01:56:28.800 conspiracies are awesome and it's amazing, you know, the World 2171 01:56:28.880 --> 01:56:31.800 Economic Forum, the Secret Societies and all this stuff. You 2172 01:56:31.800 --> 01:56:34.760 know that you can get into the Genesis six conspiracy. 2173 01:56:34.279 --> 01:56:34.920 Get into all that. 2174 01:56:35.199 --> 01:56:37.359 But they'll just read the Bible, you know, just start 2175 01:56:37.359 --> 01:56:38.840 out with the Bible so that you can get the 2176 01:56:39.239 --> 01:56:42.079 you know, your foundation is solid, you know, because when 2177 01:56:42.119 --> 01:56:44.479 all that the reason why people are so deceived at 2178 01:56:44.520 --> 01:56:47.199 the end times is because they're not rightly dividing the 2179 01:56:47.239 --> 01:56:49.600 word or they're not even reading the Bible. They're taking 2180 01:56:49.640 --> 01:56:53.760 you know, they're they're letting Satan fulfill their whole day, 2181 01:56:54.520 --> 01:56:57.159 uh with with not giving time to God, you know, 2182 01:56:57.479 --> 01:57:00.239 and we need to give God your time and we 2183 01:57:00.279 --> 01:57:01.600 need to spend time with the Lord. 2184 01:57:02.399 --> 01:57:03.720 Whether you have to wake up. 2185 01:57:03.800 --> 01:57:06.319 An hour earlier or stay up an hour later, what 2186 01:57:06.399 --> 01:57:09.479 do you whatever you have to do. I just suggest that, 2187 01:57:09.600 --> 01:57:11.880 you know, I just I pray, you know, in Jesus's name, 2188 01:57:11.920 --> 01:57:14.960 that people just just go, you know, read the Bible, 2189 01:57:15.399 --> 01:57:17.600 start a relationship with the Lord. It's not about Religion's 2190 01:57:17.600 --> 01:57:19.479 about relationship. I just want to say that, you know, 2191 01:57:19.520 --> 01:57:22.239 I think it's vastly important everything we went over. You 2192 01:57:22.279 --> 01:57:26.239 guys understand that they're deceived because they didn't get into 2193 01:57:26.279 --> 01:57:30.000 the Word and have that relationship with God. They were 2194 01:57:30.039 --> 01:57:32.000 married to the world and not married to God. So 2195 01:57:32.680 --> 01:57:35.359 we'll end this in prayer, you know, and I will 2196 01:57:35.439 --> 01:57:37.800 end this in prayer. And this is a mighty, mighty episode. 2197 01:57:37.840 --> 01:57:38.439 I really loved it. 2198 01:57:38.439 --> 01:57:40.000 I appreciate you guys. Thank you guys. 2199 01:57:40.000 --> 01:57:43.439 But Father God and the name of Jesus, once again, 2200 01:57:43.479 --> 01:57:45.199 I just want to thank you for giving us a 2201 01:57:45.199 --> 01:57:49.600 clear connection, and I appreciate everything you do for us. 2202 01:57:49.640 --> 01:57:49.880 Lord. 2203 01:57:50.159 --> 01:57:54.239 I just pray for everybody that's listening right now, please 2204 01:57:54.399 --> 01:57:56.880 let them not have to wait to go through all 2205 01:57:56.960 --> 01:58:00.720 these you know, the twenty one judgments or anything like that. 2206 01:58:01.079 --> 01:58:03.239 They don't need to wait for that. The time is now, 2207 01:58:03.319 --> 01:58:05.880 you know, to just get into the Lord. You know, 2208 01:58:05.920 --> 01:58:08.039 we don't know if the raptures pre mid. 2209 01:58:09.319 --> 01:58:09.800 We have no. 2210 01:58:09.800 --> 01:58:12.079 Idea you know what we're gonna have to go through, 2211 01:58:12.079 --> 01:58:14.159 but it's better to be prepared. 2212 01:58:14.640 --> 01:58:16.960 You know. The government, we know, Lord could come in 2213 01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:18.279 and take the Bibles away. 2214 01:58:18.319 --> 01:58:18.760 You know what. 2215 01:58:18.800 --> 01:58:20.760 We're so worried about them taking the guns away, Lord, 2216 01:58:20.800 --> 01:58:22.880 but they could take the Bibles away. What are we 2217 01:58:22.920 --> 01:58:26.439 gonna do when we're going up against these principalities of evil, Lord, 2218 01:58:26.640 --> 01:58:28.880 and we don't have the Bible memorized, you know. 2219 01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:30.199 So I just want to. 2220 01:58:30.119 --> 01:58:33.520 Say, God, please everybody that's listening right now, Please, Lord, 2221 01:58:33.640 --> 01:58:37.760 just you know, do a supernatural invitation to them to just. 2222 01:58:37.760 --> 01:58:39.760 Start reading the Bible and have a relationship with you. 2223 01:58:39.800 --> 01:58:40.079 Lord. 2224 01:58:40.319 --> 01:58:43.119 We appreciate everything you do for us and we love you. Lord. 2225 01:58:43.159 --> 01:58:48.119 Thank you in Jesus name. Amen, Amen, guys, thank you. 2226 01:58:48.199 --> 01:58:51.720 If you guys could please subscribe check out Ryan Peterson 2227 01:58:52.159 --> 01:58:54.760 check out Judgment of the Nephilheem on YouTube, and you guys, 2228 01:58:54.760 --> 01:58:55.920 Caul subscribe to that. 2229 01:58:56.239 --> 01:58:59.960 Scott Mitchell is Bible Mysteries. If you guys could. 2230 01:58:59.800 --> 01:59:02.640 Please subscribe to his YouTube and also listen to him 2231 01:59:02.640 --> 01:59:07.000 on Spotify, Apple or all app distributors. Gary Wayne, you 2232 01:59:07.039 --> 01:59:09.239 guys know that he's on all these shows crushing it 2233 01:59:09.319 --> 01:59:11.279 and doing great things, and you know when his new 2234 01:59:11.319 --> 01:59:15.039 book comes out, and also these books. Please, guys, these 2235 01:59:15.039 --> 01:59:16.840 guys are doing this for free. I'm not paying them 2236 01:59:16.880 --> 01:59:18.399 a dime and I don't make a dime off of 2237 01:59:18.479 --> 01:59:21.720 doing this either, So if you guys could just support them. 2238 01:59:21.760 --> 01:59:24.800 We got Genesis sixth Conspiracy from Gary Wayne, we have 2239 01:59:26.000 --> 01:59:29.119 the Final Nephiling from Ryan Peterson and also Judgment of 2240 01:59:29.159 --> 01:59:32.600 the Nephilien. Please guys, support them. They're just here sharing 2241 01:59:32.600 --> 01:59:35.039 the knowledge for free, guys, and that's amazing. So in 2242 01:59:35.079 --> 01:59:36.880 any way, if you guys could support them, I'd really 2243 01:59:36.880 --> 01:59:40.000 appreciate it. Thank you guys for listening. We love all 2244 01:59:40.039 --> 01:59:41.520 of you guys, and we appreciate you