Speaker 1: Get ready for Well, it looks like it's the ninth
Speaker 1: day of January twenty twenty six, allegedly according to that
Speaker 1: thing we call a calendar. I'm live on a Friday night. Now.
Speaker 1: I had a little trouble here trying to get be
Speaker 1: Pete on the hunt the line. I think he's with
Speaker 1: me now though. Can you hear me now, Be Pete?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you?
Speaker 1: Okay, great, because for a minute there I had I
Speaker 1: had two of them. I had none of them. He
Speaker 1: couldn't hear me, he could hear me. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the hell's going on. It's a technical issues Friday.
Speaker 1: I just I threw up my hands and decided to
Speaker 1: go live at about ten minutes after the hour here.
Speaker 1: So anyway, we're live. My co host is with me
Speaker 1: as much as he can be. And you could be too,
Speaker 1: you could. You could try and get into this mess
Speaker 1: and why not. There might be a delay on the calls,
Speaker 1: but I can take them at three one nine five
Speaker 1: two seven five zero one six. Damn, Bpete. You're you're noisy?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Are you? Are you grinding the coffee?
Speaker 1: What is all that noise? No?
Speaker 2: I'm not making any noise at all.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, tell me it doesn't sound like, you know,
Speaker 1: somebody's body cam getting knocked around body And there goes
Speaker 1: my voice kicking back at me like I was coming
Speaker 1: through a speakers for a second. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on, guys, I don't know what.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's wrong with headphone connection for some reason,
Speaker 2: it just get cut out and went back to speaker.
Speaker 1: Okay, hopefully it'll it'll stop that because I can't. Okay,
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like I'm kicking back now. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: hope it works. Three one nine five two seven five
Speaker 1: zero one six. This is funny because a lot of
Speaker 1: times people get mad at me for not going live
Speaker 1: on time, and I go, well, sometimes, no matter how
Speaker 1: much setup I do or whatever, and I've had them
Speaker 1: perfectly set up, everything's ready to go, we go live,
Speaker 1: and then it goes to crap or you know. I
Speaker 1: try to set up in the last couple of minutes
Speaker 1: and it takes me an extra ten fifteen to get
Speaker 1: the show going, and there's nothing to do about it.
Speaker 1: It's just the technical issues come and go on a
Speaker 1: day to day and I can do nothing about it
Speaker 1: except laugh. So I'm laughing at this because why not,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's perfect, and hopefully we'll get
Speaker 1: to talk about, you know, some different things. You guys
Speaker 1: can bring up any topic you want when you call in,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. So again it's three one nine five
Speaker 1: two seven five zero one six. But before we get
Speaker 1: to your calls, and I don't have any yet, but
Speaker 1: when we do get to them, we'll be happy to
Speaker 1: talk about whatever's on your mind. But up until then,
Speaker 1: I'll ask Bpete how his week has been. Mine has sucked,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much. But what am I supposed
Speaker 1: to do? I tried to put out a decent amount
Speaker 1: of stuff this week for you guys. Trying to get
Speaker 1: back on track. Yeah, go ahead, b Beat. You started
Speaker 1: to say something, what's up Hello?
Speaker 2: I was going to say, yeah, mine's been busy. I'm
Speaker 2: I got a problem with two tires. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get them mounted on my lawnmower. Is this coming through
Speaker 2: it all?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Your lawnmower you're trying to get You're getting trying
Speaker 1: to get two tires mounted on your lawnmower. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's a delay or not, but I'm hearing you.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I think there's a delay anyway. I've got
Speaker 2: the tires on the rims. I can't get them the seat,
Speaker 2: so I've got to take them down and put them
Speaker 2: on a tire machine somewhere. And I don't know if
Speaker 2: this town has a tire machine anywhere, so you may
Speaker 2: have to take a road trip. But other than that,
Speaker 2: weather it has been beautiful. Man. It's been in the
Speaker 2: sixties and the seventies all week long. It's been amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm ready for spring. I've had enough winter.
Speaker 1: Well, I've just barely been out of the house on
Speaker 1: occasion to you know, go to appointments or whatever. And
Speaker 1: it's been it's been okay. The weather, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's you know, been great lately, but it's been
Speaker 1: okay for sure. It's not like too hot or too cold,
Speaker 1: it seems to me. I think missus Oh was a
Speaker 1: little hot a couple of days and whatnot. But I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just been a challenge to try and
Speaker 1: get things done. But that's just it wouldn't matter what
Speaker 1: the weather is like out for me, except when it
Speaker 1: was cold and wet last week. Boy, that was killing me.
Speaker 1: The dampness more than anything. But maybe maybe it hasn't
Speaker 1: been as damp this week. I think, what do you think?
Speaker 2: No, it we got lucky last week. It was cold,
Speaker 2: but we didn't have the damp We had one day
Speaker 2: two days where it was cloudy, but no rain or anything.
Speaker 2: So but you know, I'm getting up there in age.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's old wet days you just stay in the
Speaker 2: house instead of trying to get something done outside. That
Speaker 2: has been pretty really, Yeah, every little bit is getting
Speaker 2: back without three nights this past week, sat out there
Speaker 2: on the on the deck of grilling dinner. So it's
Speaker 2: been enjoyable.
Speaker 1: That's okay. It still sounds like you're moving around a lot, though.
Speaker 1: What are you doing right now?
Speaker 2: I'm sitting in front of my desk looking at the
Speaker 2: football playoff schedule kidding, okay, wild card weekend.
Speaker 1: Oh, it is right right right, And that means probably
Speaker 1: Uncle will want to start talking about the you know,
Speaker 1: the playoffs and stuff. But I always forget when that
Speaker 1: comes up because once, you know, once the World Series
Speaker 1: is over, I stop watching sports a bit. Uh, even
Speaker 1: if I am watching it, which I'm not watching it
Speaker 1: too much lately. I don't know, I'm contradicting myself all
Speaker 1: over the place. I'd watched the World Series last year
Speaker 1: though this past one because it was really good. I thought,
Speaker 1: but you know, what are you gonna do? Anyways?
Speaker 2: Well, we got we got a few months. Has anybody
Speaker 2: called in yet?
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna check. Let me see. Uh. I was
Speaker 1: just you know, figuring you and I will get to
Speaker 1: talking a little bit and see what happens. I don't
Speaker 1: see anybody calling in just yet.
Speaker 2: But when I was gonna, I was gonna say, you know,
Speaker 2: we're coming up what we've got. We're past the beginning
Speaker 2: of the year, so within another month.
Speaker 3: H h.
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I don't know why he's going robotic here
Speaker 1: on us A.
Speaker 2: Yeah, h h wow.
Speaker 1: Huh all right, so I know we're live. I'm not
Speaker 1: hearing Bpete at the moment. What's going on here? Am
Speaker 1: I having Internet interference? I might be, in which case
Speaker 1: I might be recording by myself here for a second,
Speaker 1: trying to get B Pete back on the line. Looks
Speaker 1: like he's there, but I don't hear him. Very very strange.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should take a quick break here ohe BP
Speaker 1: came back in to the room on the on the
Speaker 1: connection here, let's see are you are you there?
Speaker 2: But it still shows me in the room twice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay, there goes it cleared itself up? You
Speaker 1: all right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Just leave it that way, I guess you okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm fine. I don't know what this thing is doing.
Speaker 1: I don't know either. Yeah, we gotta find something melt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to because it was working a bit,
Speaker 1: but now it's not giving me. It's giving me some
Speaker 1: troubles here tonight. So I don't know. Hopefully you guys
Speaker 1: can connect with us on the phones. I still have
Speaker 1: that up. The app is open, so I know that's
Speaker 1: a working. But you know, and I know we're broadcasting.
Speaker 1: Let's see, yeah, we're broadcasting. So all this is going
Speaker 1: off like sure, yeah, good?
Speaker 2: Did you ever get it?
Speaker 1: So he goes to ask me a question. He doesn't
Speaker 1: even finish the question because I can't hear him. Now,
Speaker 1: what the hell there? You are? Okay? You said did
Speaker 1: you ever get a chance? And then you were cut off?
Speaker 1: Did I ever get a chance to what?
Speaker 2: Did you ever get the chat on the website working?
Speaker 1: Oh that's another weird thing, you know what the way
Speaker 1: It's worked for years and years with the HTML. It
Speaker 1: just refuses to load on my damn website and I
Speaker 1: can't figure it out. See, this is where I need
Speaker 1: an it guy to help me out a little bit,
Speaker 1: because I put it back in six different ways and
Speaker 1: all I can do is give you a link to it,
Speaker 1: you know, and you can go to the Chattango site
Speaker 1: and it works fine on Chattango alone, but you can't
Speaker 1: like stay on my page like you used to do
Speaker 1: with the box. And the funny thing is every other
Speaker 1: website it's on still works, you know, like Lancer used
Speaker 1: it this year Chatango and they had no problem keeping
Speaker 1: it on their website, and they did it the same
Speaker 1: way I do it. They did it the same way
Speaker 1: I do it. And your computer, yeah, well my computer
Speaker 1: doesn't matter because this is on my site, which is
Speaker 1: you know, on a server elsewhere.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: And some people with different browsers are telling me what
Speaker 1: it's there. It's fine, So I don't understand like my
Speaker 1: brows I guess Firefox just sucks now too, But I
Speaker 1: tried to use Edge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Firefox, I'm finding I'm having more pro I've been
Speaker 4: using Mozilla for a long time years and here recently,
Speaker 4: I've been having problems with crashes in that because I
Speaker 4: have an upgraded Windows.
Speaker 2: So they do what they have to do to get
Speaker 2: you through using the old version of Firefox. Once I
Speaker 2: upgrade my computer, which I think I'm all do maybe
Speaker 2: in a week or so, just go ahead and give
Speaker 2: me a new one. But apparently this stuff is the
Speaker 2: new software is coming out so fast that the old
Speaker 2: stuff just can't keep up with it. They said, screw it,
Speaker 2: we're going to start a new edition and we're going
Speaker 2: to quit sport in this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's what maybe my problem is doing
Speaker 1: stuff lately, is that I'm still on Windows ten, you know,
Speaker 1: and I think it's even though it shouldn't give you
Speaker 1: problems with online stuff, it does. So I think they're
Speaker 1: they're just trying to force everybody into eleven fast, which
Speaker 1: doesn't look well.
Speaker 2: As soon as good. As soon as they came out
Speaker 2: with eleven, Firefox started putting out notices, Hey, we're only
Speaker 2: going to be you know, keeping this version going bare
Speaker 2: air minimums, right, so a certain point that it's going
Speaker 2: to end. They haven't gotten to the end yet, So
Speaker 2: I mean it's constantly I'm having to update my browser
Speaker 2: every other day. They're having to come up with a
Speaker 2: new version.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the same here.
Speaker 2: It's that bad then, you know, it's not long before
Speaker 2: the ends.
Speaker 1: Right, the same here. I mean, unfortunately, I'm probably gonna
Speaker 1: wind up having to use like Edge or something stupid
Speaker 1: just to keep going on the internet, you know, because
Speaker 1: I used Firefox a long time. I mean I was
Speaker 1: thinking of switching to Opera again because I had that
Speaker 1: for a little while, and that's you know, got an
Speaker 1: automatic that well it's got an automatic VPN on it
Speaker 1: and everything. I don't I think it's through them. I
Speaker 1: like Opera's Opera. I think i'd have to check into
Speaker 1: that again. Who knows, maybe somebody bought it by now.
Speaker 1: But years ago I had it as my alternative as
Speaker 1: my alternative browser, you know, but I always use the
Speaker 1: Firefox as my main one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've enjoyed Firefox for a long time. It was funny.
Speaker 2: I was working for the state. They had us because
Speaker 2: of security stuff. They had everybody in our division, you know,
Speaker 2: get off of Windows, right, So they loaded all fire
Speaker 2: all Mozilla products and we used that for about a year.
Speaker 2: And then we got a new governor, and this new
Speaker 2: governor was addicted to Microsoft State Books for her scheduling,
Speaker 2: so she made everybody change back to Microsoft and then
Speaker 2: implemented this, you have to use your calendar so everybody
Speaker 2: knows where everybody is on any given day. And I
Speaker 2: was on vacation when they made the change. So when
Speaker 2: I came back, we had all these documents that we
Speaker 2: had done, and they upgraded Windows and Priest's office. So
Speaker 2: when I come back, none of the documents that I
Speaker 2: had done under the old doc they were now all
Speaker 2: doc X, and I had years of enforcements in documents
Speaker 2: that I could no longer access and reading. As the
Speaker 2: biggest screw up, it cost them a fortune to go
Speaker 2: through and redo everybody's computer again the third time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet all.
Speaker 2: Because somebody wanted to use datebooks.
Speaker 1: Well that's annoying as hell because that leads you into
Speaker 1: the whole you know, the Office three sixty five system,
Speaker 1: now you know, which is just exactly I hate that crap,
Speaker 1: oh man, because you know what it is with Office
Speaker 1: is everything. They're like, oh, we do everything, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you've got to buy everything piece by piece, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 2: Exactly?
Speaker 1: Like if I want to buy like teams is screwing up.
Speaker 1: We can't use teams to do this anymore. So I
Speaker 1: try and use it, and it's like, you know, if
Speaker 1: you switch to the premium. It's almost like they keep
Speaker 1: suggesting to you that if you if you use the
Speaker 1: paid version, you won't have as many problems, which is like, well,
Speaker 1: why why even use the free version? Why why even
Speaker 1: give it out to you know, Okay, this is crappy,
Speaker 1: but if you buy the thing from us, it'll be good. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, well, now it's funny. The whole time I was
Speaker 2: doing inspections there for about six seven years with various
Speaker 2: engineer companies, they all in fact the state. As part
Speaker 2: of their contract, all these inspectors had to have Apple iPads,
Speaker 2: but you had to run Microsoft programs. Oh, go on
Speaker 2: Apple products and you're well, gee, we don't understand why
Speaker 2: this doesn't work. Well, pick one and stick with it.
Speaker 2: How about it? Either go with Microsoft or go with Apple.
Speaker 2: What's wrong with that? No, we got to combine the two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's your problem when you try and combine it.
Speaker 1: Like people that are using Apple, I swear the Internet's
Speaker 1: even different for them. Everything is different if you're on
Speaker 1: Apple you know, and like when you ever ever try
Speaker 1: to talk to somebody who's like, you know, well, gee,
Speaker 1: what do I do with this problem on my computer?
Speaker 1: And I go, well, okay, have you tried this? They
Speaker 1: don't even understand what I'm talking about as far as like,
Speaker 1: you know, getting rid of something or drag and drop
Speaker 1: or what they It's like, that doesn't work that way
Speaker 1: on Apple. It's always an adaptation and when you try
Speaker 1: and run. You can run some Apple stuff on PC
Speaker 1: and some PC stuff on Apple, but it is rickety
Speaker 1: at best. The connection to be able to use it.
Speaker 1: That was the whole deal with the broadcasting thing.
Speaker 2: When it's like going to it's like going to a
Speaker 2: Chinese restaurant in Germany and the menu is in French.
Speaker 1: Right, It's like when I switched over, Okay, when I
Speaker 1: decided to stop working with the networks that were broadcasting
Speaker 1: me and do my own broadcast. Right, it was like, well,
Speaker 1: here's your choices. Really, you can either go with Apple
Speaker 1: or you can go with PC, and there's a path
Speaker 1: to get it done independently for yourself. Right. And it
Speaker 1: was like, okay, but is there a way that I
Speaker 1: can do both?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: It's like people that record with their podcasts even and
Speaker 1: decide to stream and everything else. There's very few programs
Speaker 1: that work on both. And then you got to be
Speaker 1: careful you have the right version. Like they have this
Speaker 1: OBS program, which is you know, online broadcasting system, and
Speaker 1: like Aaron uses that to send out his shows. Now
Speaker 1: he sends out his shows to these different video streams
Speaker 1: at the same time that I'm broadcasting his stuff and
Speaker 1: running it out on PC regular way with the SAM broadcaster.
Speaker 1: So I run his audio out, he runs his video
Speaker 1: and audio out, and we both do it on two
Speaker 1: separate platforms because he's Apple and on PC. And that's
Speaker 1: the only way to combine it is to literally have
Speaker 1: two different people with two different computers combining things and
Speaker 1: running separately. That's the only way to do it, because
Speaker 1: otherwise pick one. That's it. Like if I told Aaron,
Speaker 1: we'll try and run the PC stuff along with your
Speaker 1: Apple stuff, he wouldn't work. And I can't run his
Speaker 1: Apple stuff the same way. Like Weirdly, like Maria Heller
Speaker 1: has been doing a podcast since like the year two
Speaker 1: thousand already, all right, so she's like over twenty five
Speaker 1: years doing the same thing. She bought a program years
Speaker 1: ago on Apple called rock Band, which rock and was
Speaker 1: designed so that musicians could record from a distance with
Speaker 1: each other, so you had communication and you had a
Speaker 1: way to track stuff and record it and capture it,
Speaker 1: and just podcasters started using the musicians software. But like
Speaker 1: in the year two thousand, they figured that out. But
Speaker 1: they bought that program back then, and all they have
Speaker 1: to do is, you know, save their program and they
Speaker 1: can reload it on their new Apple devices when they
Speaker 1: get it or whatever. But it's sort of like me
Speaker 1: when I had to buy my SAMD broadcaster to like
Speaker 1: actually buy it, you buy a license and everything else.
Speaker 1: It was three hundred bucks. But my license is now
Speaker 1: from twenty seventeen, so I have the old version of
Speaker 1: the program and I can upgrade it or it'll still work.
Speaker 1: And rock Band, like I said, she's been using the
Speaker 1: same rock Band program for twenty five years. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like but you got to buy an expensive piece
Speaker 1: of software in order to have that for long term. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: like if you try and go with one of these
Speaker 1: thirty dollars pieces of software or whatever, it doesn't last,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work long And the free stuff, like I
Speaker 1: said before, it's it's like as teams now where they
Speaker 1: try and hold you up, like, oh, if you really
Speaker 1: want this to work, you're gonna have to pay us,
Speaker 1: you know. And yeah, maybe they don't take three hundred
Speaker 1: dollars in one shot, but they'll take ten dollars a month,
Speaker 1: so you know what I mean, Like you'll pay for
Speaker 1: it constantly instead of just a one time fee. You know,
Speaker 1: if I bought this thing in twenty seventeen, so for
Speaker 1: six years, I've been using the same broadcast license I
Speaker 1: was using somebody else's before that, I was sharing one.
Speaker 2: How long?
Speaker 1: Yeah good?
Speaker 2: How long is it good for your license?
Speaker 1: Well theoretically it should be good for as long as
Speaker 1: this type of broadcasting on the internet exists. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: why I thought it was worth it to pay three
Speaker 1: hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what do you think? What are the champs?
Speaker 2: Is them of them changing in formats on something so
Speaker 2: much that that would no longer work?
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, there's the worry I have because eventually everything
Speaker 1: everything does go down. But then somebody would say to me, well,
Speaker 1: how long do you expect to, you know, have a
Speaker 1: piece of software work anyway? You know, Like I said,
Speaker 1: some of us have got lucky with long term stuff,
Speaker 1: and then somebody would say, well, look if it's ten years, okay,
Speaker 1: you got ten years out of it, what do you
Speaker 1: what else do you get ten years out of it?
Speaker 1: You know, because I've been through seven computers. Well you know,
Speaker 1: you go through seven computers, but you're still using the
Speaker 1: same piece of software. That's not so bad. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got I've got one laptop under my desk,
Speaker 2: one here that I'm using. I'm getting ready to buy
Speaker 2: a newer one for about two hundred and fifty bucks.
Speaker 2: I mostly what it can do. If it's got the
Speaker 2: it's got the speed that I want. But it's already
Speaker 2: got eleven on it. Yeah, and it's not been used
Speaker 2: but a very short time, so there's not a lot
Speaker 2: of crap on it. Clean out. I think a friend
Speaker 2: of mine bought it and they don't really use it,
Speaker 2: and they made a comment, you know, what are we
Speaker 2: going to do to clean stuff off of here? If
Speaker 2: I'm going to sell it, I said, well, how much
Speaker 2: do you want for it? Well, I'll take two fifty
Speaker 2: I said, we'll just hold it. I'll get it in
Speaker 2: a few weeks. I'll clean it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See now, and the least I can upgrade that, right,
Speaker 2: and then this old one. I'm just going to take
Speaker 2: this old one and use it for editing photos in
Speaker 2: that okay, because I like the software that I have
Speaker 2: on it, the way it's laid out with my keyboard.
Speaker 1: That's cool. I mean, I know, pretty in the near future,
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to buy another computer, but I mean,
Speaker 1: but I go a little cheaper with it, because I
Speaker 1: go buy a rebuilt game system. And the thing is
Speaker 1: that's power that's powerful enough for two way communication that
Speaker 1: I can run my software. I can run everything I
Speaker 1: have to do, and it doesn't cost me, you know,
Speaker 1: a fortune to be able to have something powerful enough
Speaker 1: to run multiple pieces of software at once, and it
Speaker 1: loads everything. And the only reason why I really have
Speaker 1: to switch it, I mean because I would just run
Speaker 1: this one into the ground if I could. The only
Speaker 1: reason why I would even bother with it is because
Speaker 1: of this Windows eleven problem. Because that's what I'm discovering
Speaker 1: left and right, is that stuff that used to work
Speaker 1: now doesn't. And even if it doesn't make sense, you know, like,
Speaker 1: there is no reason why me programming the HTML into
Speaker 1: my website shouldn't be producing the same chat room it
Speaker 1: just went away one day when it was there since
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, you know, or twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2: That makes sense.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense. You know, you can find still
Speaker 1: old working stuff on the Internet that was, you know,
Speaker 1: put in in nineteen ninety nine because HTML is basic.
Speaker 1: It's something that you know, any browser should be able
Speaker 1: to interpret. So I don't understand.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's like my first computer. The first
Speaker 2: computer I had was a Gateway and it had Windows
Speaker 2: nine nine or Windows ninety eight on it. And I
Speaker 2: can still hook that computer up and it works. It's
Speaker 2: just super slow, right, but it still works. I can
Speaker 2: still get online with it, and I can still surf
Speaker 2: the net with it and browse. It just takes forever
Speaker 2: for a page to load because of the processors. That's
Speaker 2: my problem with the laptop I have. Now. I want
Speaker 2: to go to eleven and I went to update and
Speaker 2: it said, I'm sorry, but your processor isn't big enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, they told me the same acay later, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they told me the same thing. So it sucks because again,
Speaker 1: all right, here's the funny part about that Windows ninety
Speaker 1: eight issue, is that all the way up to Windows ten,
Speaker 1: I don't know about eleven yet because I haven't been
Speaker 1: able to see it. I haven't used it. I don't
Speaker 1: know anybody with it. I haven't tried it, Okay, but
Speaker 1: I know that all the way up to Windows ten,
Speaker 1: there's still components from ninety seven and ninety eight in
Speaker 1: when Windows ten. You know that, right, So some of
Speaker 1: the basic crap that's going on in the background is
Speaker 1: still the same processes. Like if you open up the
Speaker 1: task manager, you can see that stuff still running, the
Speaker 1: old crap that's always been there, that keeps the you know,
Speaker 1: that keeps the whole thing I guess, you know, coherent
Speaker 1: and within the platform. But again, now this stuff is
Speaker 1: not even making sense though, Like things are breaking down
Speaker 1: that shouldn't be breaking down. If I don't have the
Speaker 1: right thing to interpret it, then it should not load
Speaker 1: on my on my computer. And that's it. I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people are experiencing the problem because they
Speaker 1: don't have Windows eleven. So when people get Windows eleven,
Speaker 1: because none of my listeners, I've asked everybody, nobody's got
Speaker 1: eleven yet. But I'll tell you what, if anybody has
Speaker 1: Windows eleven, and let me know what my web page
Speaker 1: does when you see it, Because who knows. There might
Speaker 1: have to be patches for Windows eleven now I don't know,
Speaker 1: but they're slowly but surely going to make it so that,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're on a Windows ten or below.
Speaker 2: Go over. Well, I didn't think about that. Well, I
Speaker 2: didn't think about that. When I go over to my
Speaker 2: friend's house, I'll go ahead and cut his own go
Speaker 2: to the website and see what it does. See if
Speaker 2: we can access chat and all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if it works on eleven, then there's the answer.
Speaker 1: And that's what. Yeah, Because I mean, and that would
Speaker 1: make that would kind of make sense in the way
Speaker 1: things are going. But it doesn't make sense from a
Speaker 1: programming point of view because the fact that I haven't
Speaker 1: changed that programming and it always worked for years and years.
Speaker 1: And I mean I got ten when ten came out,
Speaker 1: so you know, and I got nine when nine came
Speaker 1: out and everything else. Because I had a second computer
Speaker 1: that was like back on eight point two or something,
Speaker 1: and that was my second computer for my own personal use.
Speaker 1: That thing I just had to unplug and leave alone
Speaker 1: because the power source died. But otherwise that would still
Speaker 1: running a few months ago. I have no idea what
Speaker 1: woul happen if I try to hook that thing up
Speaker 1: at this point. But yeah, I think probably nothing will
Speaker 1: work and they'll just kind of force everybody into you
Speaker 1: need a new computer, is what's going to happen here. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's all I see.
Speaker 2: And you know, yeah, I think what I'm going to
Speaker 2: do is, I think I'll make a laptop I've got
Speaker 2: under my desk. I think I'm gonna take the one
Speaker 2: under my desk and take the heart or drive out
Speaker 2: of it and just turn it, buy a case for
Speaker 2: it and turn it into hard drive just to keep
Speaker 2: photos and things like that on. And then I can
Speaker 2: utilize this one for doing photo editing and that, and
Speaker 2: then my new one I can do all my my
Speaker 2: other stuff on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have an auxiliary heart.
Speaker 2: I I'd like to get off laptops though, and get
Speaker 2: back to a good, a good desktop.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, there's no way you're going to get it
Speaker 1: breaking up on you. No, you're okay, there's no way
Speaker 1: you're going to get a desktop without going to eleven,
Speaker 1: without going to eleven now, no way.
Speaker 2: So I know, I know, well, I like the convenience
Speaker 2: of a laptop, but with my desktop, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just had more power, I could do more things.
Speaker 2: It was easier because I use a wireless keyboard for
Speaker 2: the laptop. You know, I hate typing on one it's
Speaker 2: so small. This way, I can set my computer off
Speaker 2: to the side, use my wireless keyboard. It's a lot
Speaker 2: easier for me. Plus I've been use I'm you know,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm so used to this thing now it's hard
Speaker 2: for me to type on a regular keyboard the way
Speaker 2: this one was laid out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that. I just I hate using the
Speaker 1: uh wireless stuff myself. I always get wired things because
Speaker 1: I in all my luck always is that the batteries
Speaker 1: are going to die when I don't have batteries, you know,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I hate them.
Speaker 2: There's many a time I've cut this one off, take
Speaker 2: the batteries out, slap them, put it back in, same batteries,
Speaker 2: and then just start working again. It's like I got
Speaker 2: to put down batteries on the grocery list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Or you're running around the house looking for
Speaker 1: does this remote have triple as or double a's, what
Speaker 1: does it have? You know, like you're trying to exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that drives me nuts.
Speaker 2: Let me check my mustache trim around, used it in.
Speaker 1: A while, right, all of a sudden, You're like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, does my razor have double ays in it?
Speaker 1: You know? Does this thing? Do I have a flashlight
Speaker 1: with double ays in it? You know? Like you're pulling
Speaker 1: batteries out everywhere because you can't use your mouse, which sucks,
Speaker 1: you know, God that game.
Speaker 2: I've always I've always hated a wireless mouse. They drive
Speaker 2: me nuts. My brother had one. I could never use
Speaker 2: that thing. I'm like, you, I gotta have a hard
Speaker 2: wired mouse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the only way I could probably have
Speaker 1: a wireless mouse is if I had, like if I
Speaker 1: was smart enough to remember to buy like rechargeable batteries
Speaker 1: and charger, so I'd always have like a set of
Speaker 1: batteries charged up and ready to go, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But I'm never smart like that. I did
Speaker 1: that with the Nintendo Wii when I had remember the
Speaker 1: Nintendo Wii. Yeah, well those things all took the double
Speaker 1: a's right. So I got pissed off of that because
Speaker 1: it seemed like every time I had a day off
Speaker 1: and I was sitting in my house, and of course
Speaker 1: I can't drive anywhere, so I'd be sitting in my house,
Speaker 1: going Okay, I'm gonna play with the Nintendo. The batteries
Speaker 1: would inevitably be dead, and I'd be like, well, can't
Speaker 1: play with this thing today because I'm not gonna By
Speaker 1: the time I go to the store and everything else,
Speaker 1: my day off is over. So you know, oh, well,
Speaker 1: forget the Nintendo Wi. I got pissed off. I finally
Speaker 1: went and bought a battery charger, you know, like that
Speaker 1: was the smartest thing I did finally. But if I
Speaker 1: don't have that kind of setup again, I am not
Speaker 1: going with a wireless mouse, that's for damn sure. I
Speaker 1: mean I could live without the keyboard sometimes maybe, or
Speaker 1: you know, most computers you can pull up an on
Speaker 1: screen keyboard even which is frustrating, but at least you
Speaker 1: can get some stuff done. But it's impossible if your
Speaker 1: mouse doesn't work. So that's why I'm always going with
Speaker 1: the stuff. It's like, I want it with a wire
Speaker 1: on it. I don't care. I want a wire you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But you know, with the laptop, you've got your keyboard,
Speaker 2: and then down at the bottom where you normally rest
Speaker 2: the heel of your hand, you've got a touchpad and
Speaker 2: two buttons like on a mouse. Well on my wireless keyboard.
Speaker 2: I've got my keyboard, and then over to the right
Speaker 2: is a touch pad with the two buttons, so I'm
Speaker 2: not having to go over where I would be moving
Speaker 2: my mouse with my wrist and you know, hitting the button,
Speaker 2: you know, hitting things that because I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: a typist. I don't you know, keep a proper you
Speaker 2: know position when I'm typing, and I'll screw all that,
Speaker 2: but having it on it's a Logitech wireless keyboard and
Speaker 2: it's been the best. My brother gave me that for Christmas,
Speaker 2: like ten eleven years ago, and it's been the best keyboard.
Speaker 2: Still works, everything's fine on it. But with that pad
Speaker 2: off to the right, it's so much easier. And it's
Speaker 2: hard sometimes doing photo editing using a touchpad on a laptop,
Speaker 2: where a mouse is so much more precise when you
Speaker 2: go to start clicking and cutting and trimming stuff. So
Speaker 2: that's why I like a desktop when it comes to
Speaker 2: photo editing, and it's they're so much.
Speaker 1: Better, totally understand, and I absolutely despise trying to use
Speaker 1: you know what's funny, Logitech usually develops good gadgets and
Speaker 1: I'm not the guy who knows about like I'm always
Speaker 1: like the last guy to find out about gadgets. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, why isn't there like a USB rechargeable
Speaker 1: wireless keyboard and mouse, Like you know, you just plug
Speaker 1: them in, and if you leave them plugged in and
Speaker 1: then you take them off, like, they're just always able
Speaker 1: to be recharged with USB. Now, probably they'd have, you know,
Speaker 1: a twenty minute lifespan or something stupid. They probably do
Speaker 1: to you, so you're constantly needing to recharge it. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, that would save me the aggravation
Speaker 1: of getting stuck with the dead batteries. And I would
Speaker 1: buy that wireless. But otherwise I'm always wanting the wires. Hey,
Speaker 1: we got a phone caller, so I want to take
Speaker 1: the call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good, Okay, but you're right, Yeah, it would be
Speaker 2: nice if you could just have a cordial plug you
Speaker 2: to keep it charged when you need it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. All right, Well, let's see, I think we
Speaker 1: got Danny from California. Yeah, I think we got Danny
Speaker 1: from California on the line. We got we got delays
Speaker 1: and all kinds of weird stuff in our text and
Speaker 1: I Danny, so hopefully this goes, Okay, how you.
Speaker 3: Doing, I'm doing fine?
Speaker 1: Oh good, I'm glad you can hear me.
Speaker 3: Think I'm a little hot right now. I have getting
Speaker 3: a lot of feedback.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry. Let me see. Maybe I could turn
Speaker 1: you down a touch on my mixer and that'll help.
Speaker 1: Do you hear that? I know you just heard that
Speaker 1: big noise from VP? He doesn't say. He says he's
Speaker 1: not moving around, but it sounds like I swear it
Speaker 1: sounds like a body camp. But anyways, maybe that'll be better. Danny,
Speaker 1: how you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm okay, tired, a lot of work. I have to
Speaker 3: say one thing that I've getting into real enjoyment with
Speaker 3: the BP on Twitter. I'm not saying I agree with
Speaker 3: everything that he tweets about his comments, but I know
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get a real good chuckle a laugh when
Speaker 3: he says once upon a time, or he talks about
Speaker 3: the Zodiac killer Zodiac killing.
Speaker 1: Now, this is funny because I followed me. I haven't
Speaker 1: been on Twitter much this week, but I don't really
Speaker 1: what's with the Zodiac killer stories? Danny tell me about it,
Speaker 1: and then maybe b Pete'll comment on it.
Speaker 3: Well, well, it's BP it's usually respun and he then
Speaker 3: usually finishes up about something finding the Zodiac or he's
Speaker 3: just said once upart where he starts, uh, kind of
Speaker 3: like when somebody kind it's usually it's usually what he's
Speaker 3: talking about is it's quite funny. I really I've gotten
Speaker 3: a good chuckle out of it.
Speaker 1: So Once upon a Time or the Zodiac Killer you
Speaker 1: use those a lot. Vpete on Twitter tell me about it.
Speaker 2: Well, no, it's it Candae. Always. I've been trying to
Speaker 2: keep people up with this, this Charlie Kirk murder mystery
Speaker 2: she's got going. And there was one thread that was
Speaker 2: really just people were commenting left and right, and I
Speaker 2: just make the comment, I said, you know you you
Speaker 2: got to keep in mind that this all started with
Speaker 2: Once upon a Time the future First Lady of France
Speaker 2: had a penis.
Speaker 1: Okay, and that one.
Speaker 2: That one took off The Zodiac Killer. Candice Owens had
Speaker 2: this guy on who was a tip from somebody else
Speaker 2: that he was at Fort Waschuka in Arizona the day
Speaker 2: before Charlie Kirk was assassinated, and he saw coming out
Speaker 2: of a super secret meeting at seven thirty in the morning,
Speaker 2: a guy who was supposedly head of Charlie Kirk's security
Speaker 2: and a congressman and the night before at the hotel
Speaker 2: Fort Watchuka is an open is called an open base
Speaker 2: where anybody can get acced. Says if you have you know,
Speaker 2: your driver's license and your registration and and it's called
Speaker 2: an open post. It's not like where there's two gates
Speaker 2: you go in heavy security and crap like that. So
Speaker 2: this guy supposedly was going down there to get records
Speaker 2: of a drug tunnel bust back in the nineties, and
Speaker 2: he was assigned to go down there. He was an
Speaker 2: engineer Special Forces. He got a sign down there to
Speaker 2: go and set these ground centers and he discovered this tunnel,
Speaker 2: and this tunnel was found and it was kind of
Speaker 2: compromised because supposedly they found pictures on the other side,
Speaker 2: on the Mexico side of the tunnel and it showed
Speaker 2: American agents and they had built this tunnel and maintained
Speaker 2: it for years. And he has strugg this. He's like
Speaker 2: a Judy Baker, you know, he's got this fantastic tape. Well,
Speaker 2: come to find out, the guy has had a lot
Speaker 2: of personal problems and court cases and anyway, he has
Speaker 2: now tied Fort Watchuka to the Charlie Kirk assassination, and
Speaker 2: Canvas has been running with it until people started digging
Speaker 2: into the guy's background. See now he was on the
Speaker 2: other night.
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta I gotta enter heat. I gotta ask
Speaker 1: you something here, because is this one of these guys
Speaker 1: that claims that there's all these there's these networks of
Speaker 1: underground tunnels where they're like sacrificing children and ditching the bodies.
Speaker 1: Because no, Okay, I'm just saying because there was like
Speaker 1: a good five year run, but there was a good
Speaker 1: five year run of a bunch of these guys who
Speaker 1: claim to have been former CIA, former Special Forces, formersts
Speaker 1: and that who said that they were involved in uncovering
Speaker 1: these tunnels that the government is hiding and they're just
Speaker 1: like sacrificing children and doing all these rituals in them
Speaker 1: and ditching bodies. And they're all over the place like
Speaker 1: they're under you know, various facilities, especially in California. There's
Speaker 1: a ton of them over there. One of them's under
Speaker 1: like Saghetty Museum or whatever. And they say that, you know,
Speaker 1: they have these things running underneath. And I heard this one,
Speaker 1: Oh no, this was like five years running. There was
Speaker 1: like twenty of these guys and women running around saying
Speaker 1: that you know, they're being targeted because they're trying to
Speaker 1: reveal this, and every last one of them. Eventually, if
Speaker 1: you dug into them, you'd wonder why their stories aren't
Speaker 1: actually wilder than that, because they had made up other
Speaker 1: crazy stories earlier in life, and you could actually trace
Speaker 1: it and find out that these people are just delusional.
Speaker 1: And there was a lot of all media people taking
Speaker 1: them seriously for a long time. Okay, goo ahead, it's
Speaker 1: not one of those.
Speaker 2: Well and see that's what Candas has done. Candas is tick.
Speaker 2: Well she no, it's not one of those. She has
Speaker 2: taken this Charlie Kirk thing and she has, you know,
Speaker 2: out of this Charlie Kirk thing. It all started when
Speaker 2: she accused Macrone's wife of being a trammy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so Macrone's wife is a man on right,
Speaker 1: and there's the lawsuit and that was dropped.
Speaker 2: That was going on, yeah right, Well, but then Charlie
Speaker 2: gets killed and then she finds out that the Macrons
Speaker 2: have moved one point five million dollars to take out
Speaker 2: a hit on her, and she needs help, you know,
Speaker 2: help me with this GoFundMe for my security at all. Well, anyway,
Speaker 2: she finally winds up with this guy. Okay, sometime when
Speaker 2: he was talking to Canvas, he had talked to this
Speaker 2: long drawn out narrative that his dad was the Zodiac Killer.
Speaker 2: I mean he of course he's off by twenty years
Speaker 2: on when the guy died and everything else. But he's
Speaker 2: trying to tell this guy, you've spread it on the net.
Speaker 2: People started leaving comments on Canvas's streams like, hey, well,
Speaker 2: you know this guy you could have saved the Zodiac Killer.
Speaker 2: You had him on his show and you didn't even
Speaker 2: ask him about it. Candas didn't know he had done
Speaker 2: this shit. So now she's trying to shove the guy
Speaker 2: to the side. She raised one hundred almost one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars cars all go fundme for this guy. Wow.
Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I don't know if she's given him the
Speaker 1: money yet. And you know what's funny is there's like
Speaker 1: an actual person that is like the child of the
Speaker 1: Zodiac Killer that they made a documentary about and everything else,
Speaker 1: and it's not this guy. It's not this guy, because
Speaker 1: I would have seen that. But I thought Candas's whole thing.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I thought Kandas's whole thing. Is it's Israel,
Speaker 1: isn't it all? Doesn't nor all go back to the massade?
Speaker 1: I mean killing Charlie Kirky.
Speaker 2: They're todd Yeah, yeah, they're tied into it. Okay, so
Speaker 2: that's just one of you know, she's she's taken the
Speaker 2: Jim Fetzer Ricochet approach.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: She goes off on all these tangents and then she
Speaker 2: periodically comes back and updates you on the tangents and
Speaker 2: none of them ever connect. She's been doing this for
Speaker 2: four months now, Okay, since well five months when you
Speaker 2: can six months when you consider the Macrone's wife as
Speaker 2: a training deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So somehow we get from Macrone's wife as
Speaker 1: a penis to the massade is involved to the guy
Speaker 1: with the tunnels who claims to be the Zodiac Killer's kid.
Speaker 1: Is all connected, but not really. I mean the other.
Speaker 2: Night, the other the other night, this guy was on
Speaker 2: one of Canvas's minions that you know runs threads forward. Well,
Speaker 2: this was last night's podcast and she covered this and
Speaker 2: new bombshell. Anyway, they smeared a congressman for three weeks
Speaker 2: who had an ironclad alibi. He was in Fort Wachuka.
Speaker 2: He was in DC voting on shit. He's got a
Speaker 2: record so that this was all right before Christmas, in
Speaker 2: the first of the year, well since the first of
Speaker 2: the year. This guy, Mitch, who found the tunnel, supposedly
Speaker 2: he single handedly determined that all this seismic activity that
Speaker 2: they were getting it has to be a tunnels. We've
Speaker 2: taken everything out of the equation. We'll come to find out.
Speaker 2: He's talking about the first drug tunnel that they found
Speaker 2: down in Douglas, Arizona, back in nineteen ninety and it
Speaker 2: was one that Gouzman had at El Chopo had put up.
Speaker 2: And the guy that did it for him was one
Speaker 2: of his underlings who bought a concrete gravel plant on
Speaker 2: the US side of the border, right and about three
Speaker 2: hundred yards away across the border, he built a house. Well,
Speaker 2: then he went out there and dig dug a big
Speaker 2: hole behind the house, said it was going to be
Speaker 2: for a swimming pool. The whole time he's digging a
Speaker 2: tunnel between the house and a warehouse on the other
Speaker 2: side of the border by about one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: feet one hundred and twenty yards.
Speaker 1: I think it was OK.
Speaker 2: He digs a tunnel between the two, so he starts
Speaker 2: shoveling cocaine through the tunnel to the US side and
Speaker 2: then they distribute. Well, stuff had been there had been
Speaker 2: rumors going on for years. I found the tunnel he's
Speaker 2: talking about because he described it as it was a
Speaker 2: James Bond tunnel. There's only one tunnel ever been found
Speaker 2: that's been given that nickname, and it was this tunnel.
Speaker 2: So ten minutes after this guy starts telling his story,
Speaker 2: I'm posting on this guy's feed, I found your tunnel
Speaker 2: didn't quite work out the way you said it did.
Speaker 2: And he's now playing on something that happened thirty five
Speaker 2: years ago. But that was his reason for being at
Speaker 2: that military base, is because he was going to get
Speaker 2: records of when he was down there because somebody turned
Speaker 2: his information over to the cartel and he's been chased
Speaker 2: all over everywhere he's lived under threat and supposedly he
Speaker 2: had to sign an NDA, and he went to the
Speaker 2: White House to sign the NDA so he could talk
Speaker 2: about it for thirty five years. But now he can
Speaker 2: tell everybody this stuff. He is just one of the
Speaker 2: biggest griffs I've ever seen. And Candace is latched onto
Speaker 2: him quicker than Fetzer latched onto Sync.
Speaker 1: That's just stupid, though, because even I know about that
Speaker 1: drug tunnel. Even I know about that drug tunnel, and yeah,
Speaker 1: there's actually a handful of them, and they they have
Speaker 1: kept some of that information classified. There's a handful of
Speaker 1: them that go uh yeah, go ahead, well on this one.
Speaker 2: The term he used this term about a third interview
Speaker 2: that I heard where he said James Bond tunnel, and
Speaker 2: I'm thinking I've heard that somewhere before.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The reason why they call it that search, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the reason why they call it that is because Okay,
Speaker 1: some of these tunnels that were that were dug are
Speaker 1: just like they're supported with big old wooden beams like
Speaker 1: railroad ties and that's it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's not like, you know, super great support and
Speaker 1: it's mostly natural. But the one that he built there,
Speaker 1: that was you know, from his house and all that,
Speaker 1: and then near that gravel, yeah, it was. He put
Speaker 1: concrete in there, he put he put lights in there.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was nice. It was a nice tunnel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it had Yeah, it had a ventilation system,
Speaker 2: It had a track system to push carts full of coke.
Speaker 2: It was thirty feet in the ground and the whole
Speaker 2: thing was concreted. And what he did was he just
Speaker 2: mixed up the concrete on the American side would take
Speaker 2: a truck fill the tunnel. Yeah, because it was beautiful.
Speaker 1: Because because his plant had one of those smitch Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I remember his plant had one of those giant
Speaker 1: it looks like, you know those things that kids used
Speaker 1: to shake and shake the sand through a sand sifter.
Speaker 1: It's like a giant version of that is part of
Speaker 1: that plant. I remember this because I remember going gee.
Speaker 1: I recognized that equipment because I worked in construction a
Speaker 1: little bit and I used to go in in the
Speaker 1: middle of the night and replace the screens on those
Speaker 1: It is one of my jobs I had, going in
Speaker 1: and replacing the screens because it takes very little, you know,
Speaker 1: skill to do it. You know, all you do is
Speaker 1: you basically you drill out the bolts and you put
Speaker 1: in brand new bolts that they give you, and they
Speaker 1: give you the screens and you just have to replace them.
Speaker 1: But it's a system of a bunch of screens, is all.
Speaker 1: It is, so that they sift out the sand from
Speaker 1: the gravel when you're putting together, and that's sorted so
Speaker 1: that you put together the concrete with these different elements
Speaker 1: and they dig it up right there on the land mostly,
Speaker 1: although sometimes truckloads of uh you know, of the sand
Speaker 1: and gravel come in mixed. And that's what this is.
Speaker 1: It's like a bunch, it's like a giant machine that
Speaker 1: that's that sifts sand. And that was part of his
Speaker 1: plant there on the side of the border that you
Speaker 1: said is about one hundred and twenty yards from his
Speaker 1: house something.
Speaker 2: Like that, right, Well, it was a total about three
Speaker 2: hundred yards between the house and the warehouse.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: The house was on the southern Yeah, the warehouse was
Speaker 2: on the southernmost part of the property that the concrete
Speaker 2: grass's plant was on. Okay, he just went to the
Speaker 2: south end and built him a warehouse there so he
Speaker 2: didn't have big his.
Speaker 1: Tunnel as far well right and then this way. But
Speaker 1: I mean it's a super Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: A super setup. And this guy is claiming that one
Speaker 2: he discovered it. Two he's been under threat now and
Speaker 2: being chased by the cartel because the cartel, you know,
Speaker 2: somebody gave the cartel his name and information. So he's
Speaker 2: been having for thirty five years, he's been dodging the cartel,
Speaker 2: which has caused him other problems with all these marriages
Speaker 2: and divorces and custody hearings, and his wife and his
Speaker 2: kid now have him under a protective order. He can't
Speaker 2: even come in contact with the kid anywhere. It's been
Speaker 2: that bad. Yeah, But that's what he does, is he's
Speaker 2: gone on these shows grifting about how bad the situation
Speaker 2: is up there in Washington that he's having to deal with.
Speaker 2: And Candace hears his story and basically only had him.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he went to four or Chuka and
Speaker 2: he went down there and there was a police a
Speaker 2: military police report written where the guy he came in
Speaker 2: started asking a bunch of weird questions and they had
Speaker 2: him take his backpack off, put it outside on one
Speaker 2: side of the building, escorted him out the other side
Speaker 2: of the building, and brought the dogs in to start
Speaker 2: sniffing because they didn't know what this seven hours, but
Speaker 2: he sets up the whole Erica Kirk was at the
Speaker 2: hotel the night before with the head of security Okay,
Speaker 2: the day before Charlie gets shot.
Speaker 1: So let me just get this straight. The only connection
Speaker 1: to this is that when he was there at Fort
Speaker 1: Wachuka trying to get records, he saw people leaving together
Speaker 1: that had something to do with the Charlie. Because I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how this connects to Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirks, Charlie Kirks life and his head of security
Speaker 2: were at the hotel on base okay, and the next
Speaker 2: morning is when he saw the head of security and
Speaker 2: a congressman and all these officers walking out of the meeting.
Speaker 2: And the congressman he identified has got an alibi. He
Speaker 2: was in d C. You know, it's it's it's a
Speaker 2: perfect Jim Fetzer story. Take Jim Fetzer and Judith Baker
Speaker 2: on and just imagine what they can come up with.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that people get away with this kind
Speaker 1: of crap when I get criticized for you know what,
Speaker 1: you what records do you have that Jolly West was
Speaker 1: present at this and that? And I'm like, it's right here.
Speaker 1: It shows that he visited you know, this person and
Speaker 1: that person. You know, like I showed and they go, well,
Speaker 1: that that could be falsified, you know, that could be made.
Speaker 1: Why would you make that up? That makes no sense
Speaker 1: that somebody would make, Like, what would be feeding us
Speaker 1: that part of the mk ultra thing? Do strategic? What
Speaker 1: does that help? Just to confuse things? Not only that
Speaker 1: people give me crabby about that, but this is so convoluted. God,
Speaker 1: I'm get a headache. Sorry.
Speaker 2: You this guy that tells you his story, yeah, comes
Speaker 2: up and confesses to be the Zodiac killer son and
Speaker 2: supposedly it's still unsolved. Wouldn't you want to have that
Speaker 2: guy back on just to get his story down on
Speaker 2: the record so that you could tear him apart. But
Speaker 2: the minute you do that, you blow the whole connection.
Speaker 2: I saw Erica Kirk on an army base the night
Speaker 2: before her husband was shot, helping plot his murder. That's
Speaker 2: what Candace has come down to. Now. There are twenty
Speaker 2: seven different organizations and groups and individuals that all converge
Speaker 2: together and took out Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 1: And all of this spun off of mccrone's wife as
Speaker 1: a penis.
Speaker 2: I mean, just.
Speaker 1: Yep, what the hell?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know I mean it following it?
Speaker 1: Okay, So Danny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell me, I have not followed it. A piece
Speaker 3: filled a lot, a lot to the story I knew about.
Speaker 3: I just saw that some of his comments and I
Speaker 3: thought they were hilarious, and I didn't know there was
Speaker 3: this much to the story that you had enough time
Speaker 3: to follow this craziness.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, see.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about a common element I find here,
Speaker 1: which is funny, is that some of the q A
Speaker 1: non people that, like you know, I've encountered over the years,
Speaker 1: a lot of them started with the whole Michelle Obamas
Speaker 1: a man thing and they were on that when that
Speaker 1: was a popular viral video. And I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is about this, like trying to prove that, you know,
Speaker 1: some alleged female is allegedly male. But they spin off
Speaker 1: into these wild directions and you know, we've got I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe it's because you obsess on who's got
Speaker 1: a penis and who doesn't, Because I mean, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I was sitting there and these
Speaker 1: guys were like showing me videos One night on my show,
Speaker 1: I was doing a live show, and they were driving
Speaker 1: me nuts with you know, like you need to talk
Speaker 1: about this Michelle Obama is a man, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And it was like, you know, this is like twenty
Speaker 1: fourteen and I'm live on my show and I got chatters,
Speaker 1: chatters attacking me and saying that I'm not willing to
Speaker 1: cover the truth and this and that because of it.
Speaker 1: And I said, Okay, I'm gonna go look at this thing,
Speaker 1: because I haven't looked at this.
Speaker 2: It's just killer though. Yeah, every time one of these
Speaker 2: people come out of the woods, it's like, and that's
Speaker 2: Candice's thing. I just want the truth. Okay, Well, then
Speaker 2: nut seventy five percent of the bullshit you've said in
Speaker 2: the past four months, and somebody might believe you. But
Speaker 2: if you're looking for the truth and you don't get
Speaker 2: a Zodiac killer son back on the air.
Speaker 1: Well, see, that's the thing is if this guy's your cornerstone,
Speaker 1: you know, when I had a guy on who was
Speaker 1: like the cornerstone of truth or something like this, And
Speaker 1: I've had a couple of people on where I had
Speaker 1: him on once and then decided never to have him
Speaker 1: back again because it was, you know, when I started
Speaker 1: to break down their story, it fell apart, you know,
Speaker 1: like one of the guys and I know there's some
Speaker 1: people hate me for this, but one of the guys
Speaker 1: who claims that nuclear weapons were used at you know,
Speaker 1: at Ground zero in New York, like I sat and
Speaker 1: I tried to examine his Well, you know, there's the
Speaker 1: theory that that nukes were used to melt the towers
Speaker 1: and all this right in New York. Oh oh yeah, No, there's.
Speaker 2: Danny that's a sets her crowd back then with the
Speaker 2: booutique nukes.
Speaker 1: And oh they had okay the news.
Speaker 3: That's the first time I ever heard of boutique news.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because what it was is, according to Fetzer and
Speaker 1: his people, it was micro nukes, Okay, Like they're very
Speaker 1: small ones that make very small nuclear reactions throughout the building.
Speaker 1: This is the thing with them. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know one hundred or a thousand of these
Speaker 1: mini micro nukes according to his people. But there was
Speaker 1: other people that said that it was one big nuclear detonation.
Speaker 1: That's why, you know, like there was a seismic activity
Speaker 1: that day and this and that, and it was nukes.
Speaker 1: That's why the buildings fell in the way they did.
Speaker 1: That's why the dust traveled, pyroclastic clouds and all that
Speaker 1: you know, because I mean, and this guy's like, well,
Speaker 1: wait a minute. You know, if you were nearby, then
Speaker 1: you would have seen this. And I'm like, I was nearby,
Speaker 1: you know, and I did see this and this, but
Speaker 1: this other part you're talking about, I don't get. So
Speaker 1: what's your proof? And I kept digging down into what
Speaker 1: his proof was, and eventually it came down to I
Speaker 1: have to take his word for it because he's the
Speaker 1: only guy who knows and that's why you know, he's
Speaker 1: banned and nobody will talk to him and everything else.
Speaker 1: And I'm kind of like, yeah, okay, and I had
Speaker 1: that guy on my show once in the store, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I've tried to go through
Speaker 1: with these guys, some of these things that I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily believe, but show me, show me the proof. And
Speaker 1: this Michelle Obama's a man thing. Somebody tried to do
Speaker 1: that with me. And they were like, look at the videos,
Speaker 1: look at the videos. And they had half hour presentations
Speaker 1: showing you all kinds of skills, you know, still shots
Speaker 1: of like here's a Michelle's Michelle's dress with a penis,
Speaker 1: you know, imprint on it because the wind blows a
Speaker 1: certain way, and now you see there's a penis between
Speaker 1: her legs instead of you know, the dress. If it
Speaker 1: was a woman that would go this way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at that time, the Lady Gaga was a training
Speaker 2: was popular at that time too.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, there was a few of them out there
Speaker 1: that it was like, these women that claim to be
Speaker 1: women are actually men. Venus Williams was one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Michelle Obama, Venus Williams, Lady Gaga.
Speaker 2: There was a handful Venus Williams. I didn't hear that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a bunch of them that were supposed
Speaker 1: to be men. But Michelle Obama was really getting traction
Speaker 1: and at one point one of the people that was
Speaker 1: screaming about it like it was the most important thing
Speaker 1: in the world called into my show and he was
Speaker 1: apparently one of the people who was putting out the videos,
Speaker 1: which have long since been banned on YouTube now, you know,
Speaker 1: but he was putting them out on YouTube like rapidly,
Speaker 1: like giving them to other channels like here, upload my
Speaker 1: video for free. Michelle Obama's a man I approve and
Speaker 1: giving you a thumbnail graphic and everything so you could,
Speaker 1: you know, pump up your YouTube channel. He was trying
Speaker 1: to offer it to me, and I said, look, if
Speaker 1: you can make your argument, I'll put it up. But
Speaker 1: I have one other question for you. What's that? What's
Speaker 1: your big question? You know, because he was all like
Speaker 1: being very slug and what's your big question, mister or doubter?
Speaker 1: And I said, well, here's my big question. What in
Speaker 1: the hell difference does it actually make if that is
Speaker 1: the case. Let's just say that Michelle's a transvestite and
Speaker 1: Obama is really into dudes, And what in the hell
Speaker 1: difference does that make for whatever complaint you got with
Speaker 1: Obama if he's banging a dude or whatever. I don't care.
Speaker 1: What's the difference. Well, he lied to the American public
Speaker 1: and I and I was stunned. I went, hello, politician,
Speaker 1: who lied to the American public? Or where's the story there?
Speaker 2: You know, like that's aquisite.
Speaker 1: That's like, you know, the casino rigged the game? No kidding,
Speaker 1: really you think they don't rig you know, like like, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, your slot machines are rigged. Yeah, no shit,
Speaker 1: I mean like every slot machine is rigged. They know
Speaker 1: how often it's going to pay off up, it's mathematically
Speaker 1: set up. What are you stupid. But my whole point
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, if that's the case, then what is
Speaker 1: your actual complaint about what's happening. You know, let's just
Speaker 1: say you're right. What difference does that make? Well, Obamacare
Speaker 1: and what he's doing is he's taking over that way,
Speaker 1: But that's got nothing to do with whether he's banging
Speaker 1: a dude.
Speaker 2: What is the only question I would have? The only
Speaker 2: question I would have is if it were true, why
Speaker 2: did Obama originally come out against gay marriage if his
Speaker 2: wife was a guy?
Speaker 1: Well, now that was my.
Speaker 2: Second word, the thought, you know, but then he changes course.
Speaker 2: I guess that's after Michelle or Big Mike was found out.
Speaker 2: Is that when he changed his decision and was okay
Speaker 2: with gay marriage?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the wonders, but see, that would be
Speaker 1: a policy decision that at least you'd have a question about.
Speaker 1: But still the point is, at the time, he was
Speaker 1: still like against gay marriage as far as I knew.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, it doesn't make sense that Obama's
Speaker 1: like going, well, I'm banging a dude, but I don't
Speaker 1: want anybody else to be married to a dude, even
Speaker 1: though I'm faking being married to a dude, you know.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, this guy's screaming about he's a communist and
Speaker 1: Obamacare and this and that, and I'm going, what does
Speaker 1: that have to do with him banging a dude? Like
Speaker 1: I can tell you for certain that there are Republicans
Speaker 1: that you guys love, that you know, have been caught
Speaker 1: in gay scandals, Okay, one way or another, I can
Speaker 1: point to them. And the truth is, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you guys are upset about it, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't care. It doesn't have anything to do with
Speaker 1: these guys' policies or what it is they're taking bribes for,
Speaker 1: or who it is is lining their pockets when it
Speaker 1: comes to lobbyists. I mean, if it's not affecting you
Speaker 1: and me, why do I care what's going on in
Speaker 1: their bedrooms? Is what I said.
Speaker 2: We need to start a pool, me, you, Danny, anybody
Speaker 2: else who wants to get in on it. Five bucks
Speaker 2: a piece, okay, and you get to pick a three
Speaker 2: month block that starts the day after Lindsey Graham retires
Speaker 2: as to how long it is before it comes out
Speaker 2: he's gay, Oh dude, three months, six months, nine months,
Speaker 2: a year. And you know, we'll have to and you
Speaker 2: can buy multiple blocks for five bucks a block.
Speaker 1: Oh that's it.
Speaker 2: We can do it every two months. You know, I
Speaker 2: don't want to do once a month because then you know,
Speaker 2: it goes nine months. Got a lot of money in there,
Speaker 2: and we can't even keep it small. So say a
Speaker 2: two month block and you pull a number one, two, three, four, five, six,
Speaker 2: We go all the way through up to a year.
Speaker 2: Everybody buys their blocks, and then we see winning comes out.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. That is a real good one,
Speaker 1: because I think it would depend on out Well see
Speaker 1: there you go, what do you do.
Speaker 2: After he's out of office? Because then it won't matter.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you do if he doesn't come out
Speaker 1: in that first year? Though? You know, what do you
Speaker 1: do with the pools start? Oh my goodness, we would
Speaker 1: have a running thing for however long it takes. See,
Speaker 1: And you know what's funny to me is that this
Speaker 1: has already been sort of foreshadowed because I talked about
Speaker 1: this on the show. Somebody got mad at me about it.
Speaker 1: I can't remember who, but I talked about it on
Speaker 1: the show. That Don Lemon, who's you know, doing his
Speaker 1: own Uh you know, he's calling his followers lemonheads. And
Speaker 1: he's got a YouTube thing now and he's also on
Speaker 1: Rumble blah blah blah, which, by the way, have you
Speaker 1: seen that Rumble commercial on YouTube yet? That's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Uh, they have this Rumble commercial on YouTube where they're like, hey,
Speaker 1: on YouTube, you got to blurt out a bunch of
Speaker 1: you know, you got to like bleep out words, and uh,
Speaker 1: you can't say certain things, and you got to change,
Speaker 1: you know, the way you say stuff like now, like
Speaker 1: you can't say the word rape on YouTube anymore. You
Speaker 1: have to say grape. So they say that somebody grapes somebody.
Speaker 1: It's like getting very strange, you know, self harm instead
Speaker 1: of you know, uh, committing suicide. God, what else is
Speaker 1: oh uh someone would there there? How did they put it?
Speaker 1: There's something like their life was interrupted or there. Uh,
Speaker 1: they they self self ended themselves.
Speaker 2: They unlive themselves.
Speaker 1: That's it. They unlive themselves. You're right, they unlive themselves.
Speaker 1: Like you got to talk all this weird way. And
Speaker 1: these two guys come out dressed in like a YouTube button,
Speaker 1: like the red you know, the red button with the
Speaker 1: white arrow and uh and and then the rumble green button.
Speaker 1: These two guys come out and rumbles like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can say whatever the f you want on my on
Speaker 1: my channels. We don't we don't censor stuff over their
Speaker 1: we don't make you talk weird. And I was just
Speaker 1: cracking up because it was on YouTube is one of
Speaker 1: the commercials. But how did I get sidetracked on that?
Speaker 2: Oh well, go YouTube, I got yeah, yeah, I got
Speaker 2: YouTube Premium. So I don't see the commercials popping up
Speaker 2: in these things.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but believe me, if you didn't, you'd be
Speaker 1: seeing this crap. And it's just nuts. I mean, between
Speaker 1: that and the thing that makes me want to, you know,
Speaker 1: like go build an app. You don't need any knowledge
Speaker 1: to build an app, you know. Between that commercial and that,
Speaker 1: it's it's very very strange. And I get some in
Speaker 1: some foreign, foreign languages that I don't know why I
Speaker 1: get them either. But anyway, besides that, I was talking
Speaker 1: about Don Lemon. That's why I started talking about YouTube.
Speaker 1: So Don Lemon now because remember he was originally going
Speaker 1: to go out on X and it was like, look,
Speaker 1: we're gonna let a liberal be on X and then
Speaker 1: he interviewed Elon Musk and that all went in the toilet.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, after he you know, got booted from CNN.
Speaker 1: But that was the gradual purge at CNN because now
Speaker 1: they've changed stuff over there. They really really changed it.
Speaker 1: You know, like all their talking head guests now are
Speaker 1: not the same, you know, the usual suspects. They're not
Speaker 1: the old liberals or anything.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: It's like very very pro Trump people get on there
Speaker 1: and argue with with every anchor until they quit. So
Speaker 1: it's kind of a funny thing on CNN anyways.
Speaker 2: And they and they do have they do have one
Speaker 2: token conservative there that all argues with everybody too. I've
Speaker 2: noticed that.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, always though now it's always it's not just
Speaker 1: the one guy. I forget his name now, Scott whatever
Speaker 1: it is, Scott, whatever his name is. It was was
Speaker 1: like they're always go to guy. But now they got
Speaker 1: a group of them. So they got them, you know,
Speaker 1: they got a token down.
Speaker 2: What is his name? Is it Bennette not Bennett.
Speaker 1: I don't remember Scott's something, because I know they always
Speaker 1: yell him, Scott, Scott, Scott, you're not you're not dressing reality,
Speaker 1: Scott Jennings. Maybe yeah, that sounds right, it sounds right.
Speaker 1: Maybe it is it doesn't matter. Point is that Don
Speaker 1: Lemon is now an independent media person, so now he's
Speaker 1: got his lemonheads and he does his thing. But he
Speaker 1: did a whole show and is always constantly calling calling
Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham, what is it, Lady Graham, Lady Graham, and
Speaker 1: constantly saying that, you know, like hey, The funniest thing
Speaker 1: I heard him say is that, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: at parties and I hear you trying to ask dudes
Speaker 1: to go home with you. So you know, like he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gay, so I know, but he is. He is
Speaker 1: like kind of out of a bunch of them that way.
Speaker 1: And Lindsey Graham is his favorite. Well, yeah, he has.
Speaker 2: My favorite thing with Don Lemon was when he posted
Speaker 2: something or made that comment about the most dangerous people
Speaker 2: in the US were white males, and I thought, you know,
Speaker 2: do you go home and beat your husband every because
Speaker 2: he's a white male. That's what kills me. He must
Speaker 2: have him trained or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: See that's another funny thing. You don't see his husband
Speaker 1: on the on the Don Lemon Show, but you hear
Speaker 1: about them, and you hear about how they have their
Speaker 1: you know, child, their their children and their dogs and
Speaker 1: all that, you know, very typical kind of thing. But
Speaker 1: when he goes on these tears about outing these Republicans,
Speaker 1: it's hilarious. But Lady Graham is always like the first
Speaker 1: one in the list because it's kind of I don't
Speaker 1: know how anybody doesn't realize it's obvious with Lindsey Graham,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But will they out him
Speaker 1: in the first three six nine months, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: a hell of a bet. I don't know, Danny wait, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think it'll go two months after he's out, once
Speaker 2: he is out of office, depending on what he does.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think he's got a lot of baggage,
Speaker 2: So I don't think anybody's going to be picking him
Speaker 2: for a position maybe an ambassador or something like that.
Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter if you're gay and you're an ambassador,
Speaker 2: because you're going to Europe or somewhere. That's so biggie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the thing. Yeah, if they give in
Speaker 1: within three months, you think when in three see, I
Speaker 1: think it very much depends on what his job is
Speaker 1: after he leaves, you know, being a senator, because if
Speaker 1: he comes out doing something that is remotely in the
Speaker 1: universe where it could be affected by the fact that
Speaker 1: he's gay. It'll come right out if he comes if
Speaker 1: he you know, winds up with a job with like
Speaker 1: I don't know, let me let me tell you know,
Speaker 1: like one of the military industrial companies, you know, Boeing
Speaker 1: or something. If he does that, I think it doesn't
Speaker 1: come out. Uh maybe it doesn't come out even in
Speaker 1: the first year, you know, because it's not because it's
Speaker 1: not relevant. Danny, what do you think, Like, how do
Speaker 1: you think? That's a hell of an interesting bet though, right,
Speaker 1: because like, how how long will it take?
Speaker 3: It's an interesting bet because I think, you know, with
Speaker 3: with all politicians, I mean, I mean there's a lot
Speaker 3: of irony what you think they are and what they
Speaker 3: are in their personal lives. My biggest thing with Lindsay
Speaker 3: Gram is I don't think he's seen a war. He
Speaker 3: doesn't like I mean, right after the invasion in Venezuela,
Speaker 3: I mean, he looked like the Chester cat with Trump,
Speaker 3: you know, talking about Cuban and you know, going forward,
Speaker 3: I mean, he was just he was just, you know,
Speaker 3: he was he could be more clear what he's all about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, but that's true. And that's always been true
Speaker 1: of him. But it's like it's weird because see I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about this and when he comes out, like Okay,
Speaker 1: what I've always thought about this with all these politicians
Speaker 1: is the guy that's screaming the loudest is usually trying
Speaker 1: to tell you something, and they're telling on themselves, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like almost always, you know, the
Speaker 1: guy who's screaming about Christian values and I mean screaming
Speaker 1: about it even when you're not asking him about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: that guy is usually like you know, the head of
Speaker 1: a kittie porn ring. I mean, like almost always, because
Speaker 1: it's like he wants to scream about the morals and
Speaker 1: how corrupt everybody is, and meanwhile he's super corrupt, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like you know, like like the
Speaker 1: like that weird note that came out where you know,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein is trying to contact Nasser, the doctor who
Speaker 1: got you know, busted for you know, molesting all the
Speaker 1: all the athletes. It's sort of like, yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, of course they're
Speaker 1: having that that conversation behind closed doors. He's trying to
Speaker 1: contact him, even though I don't know if they actually
Speaker 1: knew each other in life before that.
Speaker 3: It doesn't who knows, you know. The whole thing with
Speaker 3: what's I found interesting with this whole Epstein thing is
Speaker 3: who he's tangled up with. Forget about his liberties, but
Speaker 3: on the intelligence was it was much broader. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know, but I mean that that's I think now
Speaker 3: kind of get lost in the woods because there's some
Speaker 3: I'm seeing some pretty good reporting. I mean, when he
Speaker 3: kind of got out of this, when he first went
Speaker 3: to bear Stearns, I think it was the Ace Greenberg
Speaker 3: was the one that hired him and he was setting
Speaker 3: up I found out just recently that he set up
Speaker 3: b C C I, which you know, funneled a lot
Speaker 3: of money into you know, Iran contrast. So it's I
Speaker 3: mean a lot of dogs are starting to make sense
Speaker 3: to me, you know, the whole that NaSTA. I don't
Speaker 3: know if that that was that just seemed too off
Speaker 3: to me. I think it may have got put in there.
Speaker 2: That's just that turned out that was wasn't that turned
Speaker 2: out to be a fake.
Speaker 1: Well, I've seen playing I think I've seen claims in
Speaker 1: both directions, be Pete where you know, there's some people going, well,
Speaker 1: that's a fake, and other people saying, no, it's really
Speaker 1: not a fake. It's in there. It came from the
Speaker 1: Epstein estate. Why would they plant that. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of weird stuff going on there with this. And what
Speaker 1: is remarkable as far as I'm concerned, is what Danny
Speaker 1: just hinted at, which is that if you can objectively
Speaker 1: look at it, you know, put that just skip the
Speaker 1: Nasser letter. I'm just saying I found that really strange,
Speaker 1: But skip that if you just take a look at
Speaker 1: who he was tied to across the board, and I
Speaker 1: don't mean just limiting yourself too. Well, is it Clinton
Speaker 1: or is a Trump? Now just assume both of those
Speaker 1: are correct. Okay, leave that alone for a minute and
Speaker 1: take a look at the rest of the span of
Speaker 1: the people and the fact that he was getting paid
Speaker 1: from you know, large financial organizations to do almost nothing.
Speaker 1: So he was constantly getting you know, payments, so many
Speaker 1: millions of dollars from these billion dollar setups as part
Speaker 1: of just his income that was just coming in, and
Speaker 1: nobody can explain what the hell he was even doing.
Speaker 1: He was constantly getting payoffs and making connections to everybody
Speaker 1: across the board in the media, you know, people of
Speaker 1: influenced one way or another in academia, people of influence
Speaker 1: in politics. This guy was like the underground influencer before
Speaker 1: social media existed. And he's across the board. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2: But I think the biggest part of that when he
Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson's dad hired him as a teacher or a
Speaker 2: professor at his school. He ended up having to leave
Speaker 2: under weird circumstances involving young women, and he went to
Speaker 2: work for lex Wes Lexner, who's the guy that owns
Speaker 2: Victorious Secret and I think the limited And I thought
Speaker 2: was I thought that was one of them.
Speaker 1: I thought that was Bill Barr's dad, Yeah, William Barr's dad.
Speaker 2: Who yeah, no, no, yeah, Bill Barrs dad. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Not Tucker Carlson. He was the voice of America.
Speaker 1: No, no, just making sure yeah yeah, Bill dead.
Speaker 2: But in the in between all these jobs, I think
Speaker 2: some guy. A couple of things I've read is where
Speaker 2: they're thinking that he made his money. Les Wexner turned
Speaker 2: his financials over to Epstein and they were involved in
Speaker 2: remember when they had Air America located down in Florida,
Speaker 2: they actually bought that company and moved it to Ohio,
Speaker 2: And so there was some relations there with government intelligence
Speaker 2: in that going on. But the things I've read, they
Speaker 2: think that Epstein was connected to all these people, and
Speaker 2: it's standed his network and was making these fortunes off
Speaker 2: of hiding other people's money in the Caymans and all
Speaker 2: of these offshore banks and handling the transactions, and of
Speaker 2: course he would get his cut. And that's why it's well,
Speaker 2: we don't know where he got his money from. Well,
Speaker 2: you're not going to find it. If he's taking ten
Speaker 2: percent off the top for handling dumping thirty six mil
Speaker 2: in the Caymans, you know he's getting three point six mil.
Speaker 2: That's how he started acquiring this money, is doing money
Speaker 2: deals and hiding people's fortunes away from a tax guy. Okay,
Speaker 2: and that's how he got rich.
Speaker 1: But see money laundering guys, they don't get ten percent
Speaker 1: like that in standard money laundering. And I'm talking about
Speaker 1: exactly the type of thing you're saying. I mean, guys
Speaker 1: that launder huge amounts of money one hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: even they don't get that much out of it. You know,
Speaker 1: they get like a five percent cut, which is just fine.
Speaker 1: You know, you get five million dollars some paperwork.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but if you're if you're moving money for
Speaker 2: one hundred different individuals and you're getting it cut from
Speaker 2: one hundred different individuals, you can acquire wealth pretty damn fast.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 1: Well, I see what you're saying there. But when you
Speaker 1: consider what he's spent and then he still had that,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's such a massive amount of
Speaker 1: money that to me means that there's a whole client list,
Speaker 1: not necessarily for the trafficking, but there's a whole client
Speaker 1: list of financials that we are not seeing anywhere because
Speaker 1: they didn't capture that. Because that's the only thing that
Speaker 1: would make sense, because even a regular you know, like
Speaker 1: these accounts, these forensic accounts, are looking at this going
Speaker 1: this doesn't make sense no matter how you slice it.
Speaker 1: I don't even think money laundering makes sense for the
Speaker 1: fortune that he amassed, you know what I'm saying, It's
Speaker 1: like way too big to account for that, you know,
Speaker 1: like if he took care.
Speaker 2: If you're also yeah, but not if you're also handling
Speaker 2: money and transactions for government agencies as well.
Speaker 1: See, but there you go, it's it's where I don't know.
Speaker 1: That to me means that if you have a government
Speaker 1: agency and you're handling stuff for them, I mean, unless
Speaker 1: you're only handling you off the book stuff. And I
Speaker 1: mean even the massive stuff like the cocaine trafficking that
Speaker 1: was going on, you know for I ran Contra and
Speaker 1: all that, It's not the amount of like if he
Speaker 1: ran all of Iran Contra, he wouldn't come near even
Speaker 1: a good percentage of the money he am masked, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But I think it's more than that.
Speaker 2: I think it's more than that. It's just one thing.
Speaker 3: Some of the stuff I'm reading is that this started
Speaker 3: way before Epstein. It was moving weapons. Uh, there was
Speaker 3: there's a lot of talk I think sothern air transfer
Speaker 3: era or before it was there America. They were moving
Speaker 3: in and out of the you know the Gola, the
Speaker 3: Angola War in the mid seventies, and there was moving
Speaker 3: like diamonds.
Speaker 1: Uh there was.
Speaker 3: It was just all drugs and there was arms traffic.
Speaker 2: That's to buy air America. Look at the money that
Speaker 2: had to be put down move that operation from Florida
Speaker 2: to Ohio.
Speaker 1: Well years ago, Jack Well years ago. I tried to
Speaker 1: explain that if you look at a guy like James Steele,
Speaker 1: you can trace stuff, you know, all the way from
Speaker 1: uh the you know, before the Vietnam War and even
Speaker 1: into the Pulpot regime and all that. You can trace
Speaker 1: all these death squads around and you can see where
Speaker 1: there was a whole bunch of different illicit operations that
Speaker 1: all ended up all in the the Iran contra basket
Speaker 1: later on. And it's some of the very same people
Speaker 1: training these people, right, the same people that trained the
Speaker 1: secret police in freaking Iran. It's a continuation from all
Speaker 1: of that. And even so, I don't know that that
Speaker 1: would account for that massive fortune, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It just it just seems incomprehensible to me that, you know,
Speaker 1: taking over Wexler and getting these payments that they know
Speaker 1: about and others. It just it just seems like the
Speaker 1: money is bigger, which means that there is much much
Speaker 1: bigger clients that we have zero evidence of at the moment.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I think he was. I think he was. He's laundering
Speaker 2: money for a couple of drug cartels too.
Speaker 1: Well, either indirectly he could have been without even you know,
Speaker 1: it's not a problem. Yeah, yeah, without even knowing that
Speaker 1: he could have done that indirectly. But even so, I
Speaker 1: mean that is massive when you can get to when
Speaker 1: you can add up a billion dollars on money laundering,
Speaker 1: you know, fees though, that's that's a hell of an operation.
Speaker 3: And then also too, he was just all with that
Speaker 3: as his tower financial It was kind of a Ponzi scheme. Yeah,
Speaker 3: his partner went to prison for a long time and
Speaker 3: and Epstein pretty.
Speaker 2: Much skated from it.
Speaker 3: And he's always played that there was a lot of
Speaker 3: money that was an account that that Epstein just outright stole.
Speaker 1: Yeah, has been his contention. Well that may be too,
Speaker 1: is if on top of taking his fees, he's also stealing.
Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, who's gonna who are you
Speaker 1: gonna cry to if he steals an extra ten million
Speaker 1: dollars exactly? You know what I mean, You're going to
Speaker 1: kill the guy that you know settled your accounts or
Speaker 1: are you gonna you know, just live with it as
Speaker 1: the cost of doing business. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, it's made me ponders because I think about like
Speaker 3: that Iran country, you know, you take like all over
Speaker 3: north and what was it, Bud McFarland and Sea Cort
Speaker 3: and the you that that game there. I think they
Speaker 3: were small players, you know when I started looking at
Speaker 3: you know, what was kind of setting.
Speaker 2: This all up.
Speaker 3: I mean, there was a bigger operation going on with
Speaker 3: all these conflict. It's just something I'm starting to really,
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean I can't prove it, but I'm
Speaker 3: kind of it's starting to make a little bit more
Speaker 3: sense to me now because I've always been puzzled by
Speaker 3: the whole Iran contract. I don't think we ever got
Speaker 3: to the.
Speaker 2: Bottom of it.
Speaker 1: No, we didn't. There's an entire missing element to that,
Speaker 1: is what you know, people that have studied that, and
Speaker 1: you know, like if you look at Doug Valentine's stuff
Speaker 1: about it, there's the whole Yeah, it's greatness. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean there's a whole missing element that he even says, look,
Speaker 1: I can't get to this. There's something kind of behind
Speaker 1: a shadow wall here that's also participating that really probably
Speaker 1: brings it all together and right.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm just like Valentine, I mean, he talked
Speaker 3: to you know, he got you know, they talked to
Speaker 3: him because of his first book he wrote about his
Speaker 3: father being captured by the think either the Japanese in
Speaker 3: the Philippine Peter w camp in the Philippines by the Japanese.
Speaker 3: So he got access to a lot of CI members
Speaker 3: and that's how he was able to write the Phoenix
Speaker 3: you know program. Yeah, he got quite a bit of
Speaker 3: information there because they just thought he was good to
Speaker 3: go and he was just accumulating, you know, they were
Speaker 3: just telling forbade him. You know, he got a lot
Speaker 3: of people to talk to him.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing is when you have the same people,
Speaker 1: you know, helping out the Khmer rouge that then go
Speaker 1: and help out the contras and they're the same guys,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, so, so tell me that you're
Speaker 1: just happy to well, they just happen to be the
Speaker 1: best people to train him. Come on, you know, there's
Speaker 1: there's something else going on there. These guys were not
Speaker 1: just agency assets. And the Phoenix program is one of
Speaker 1: those things that, like I said, it's it's part of
Speaker 1: the touchdown, but I don't think it gives you the
Speaker 1: whole picture. But Doug did a good job, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to show you that. And uh, what was the
Speaker 1: other ones that the strength of the wolf and the
Speaker 1: strength of the pack when when he goes into the
Speaker 1: dea element of it, and a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: even want to touch that because you know, that's why
Speaker 1: I used to have Sally Castillo on the show, was
Speaker 1: for that reason, because he was actually a DA agent
Speaker 1: who you know, thought that they were fighting the drug war,
Speaker 1: you know, until they put a hit out on him
Speaker 1: and you know, sent him into the field with a
Speaker 1: hit on his head. And you know, I don't even
Speaker 1: tell him, Let's just see if he gets eliminated this way,
Speaker 1: he won't complain about these guys getting killed, these informants,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was just it was
Speaker 1: just too much. Anyways, tell you what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a short break just because I need one,
Speaker 1: and I'm putting Danny on hold. So Danny, if you
Speaker 1: want to rejoin us after the break, that's great. BPTE.
Speaker 1: If you want to go get some coffee or something,
Speaker 1: go ahead. But yeah, I'm gonna do this for now.
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Speaker 1: So here we are back with the final, second and
Speaker 1: final segment of the Friday Night call in Show. We've
Speaker 1: only had one caller, which is Danny from California, but
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Speaker 1: keep listening to Shelly dot com Radio Live or if
Speaker 1: you're catching the podcasts, it should be there on the
Speaker 1: feed next up or something. Anyways, repeat anything else on
Speaker 1: your mind this week before we go back. And I
Speaker 1: mean the Candas Owens thing is just insane because I
Speaker 1: can't follow a lot of what's going on there. And
Speaker 1: like I said, once somebody starts screaming to me everything
Speaker 1: is the Jews, I'm usually done. I can't.
Speaker 2: It's like the strange thing I've noticed is with Tucker
Speaker 2: and Megan Kelly and Canvas Owens and a lot of
Speaker 2: these other top conservative pundits, have you noticed a sudden
Speaker 2: change of Israel's the bad guy? Now they control everything
Speaker 2: that we do. It all comes down to the Jews.
Speaker 2: And then this strong advancement of Catholicism, all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: Several fronts.
Speaker 1: Well, it's very weird.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, and Nick Fentis and you know, Catholicism, and
Speaker 2: it's like now, to be Christian and to be a
Speaker 2: cool Christian, you've got to be Catholic and not Protestant.
Speaker 2: And the Protestant churches have all according to Kansas and
Speaker 2: Tucker and all these people, you know, the prostant Church
Speaker 2: has been infiltrated by the Jews. It's all for the Jews.
Speaker 2: Everything is for the Jews, no matter what you do.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, Jews. This is where it puts
Speaker 1: me in a bad spot because look, I'm not for
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church. I'm not. You know, I don't really
Speaker 1: care about the Jewish thing necessarily, but I don't view
Speaker 1: the state of Israel in a positive way, I don't,
Speaker 1: you know. But the second that if I criticize something
Speaker 1: that happens, or I say I disagree with something they're
Speaker 1: doing or anything else, I get lumped in with the
Speaker 1: anti Semites, which is bizarre because this is anybody knows
Speaker 1: me knows that that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, a quick word. Guys in the room
Speaker 2: are saying, are asking questions, are we not Aaron just asked,
Speaker 2: are we not doing our show? And somebody else to see.
Speaker 2: Fay said, he's just hearing you, so check a connection
Speaker 2: or something. We may not be going out over the air.
Speaker 1: Let me double check it. But let's see. We should
Speaker 1: be perfectly live and everything. I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: I just asked.
Speaker 2: I just asked in the room, or you're not hearing
Speaker 2: me or Danny and Face said no, he said, he's
Speaker 2: just hearing you.
Speaker 1: Okay, hopefully let's see. I'm checking my stream right now.
Speaker 1: It says we're streaming. It's such a weird night, such
Speaker 1: a weird night with the tech stuff. But anyway, so look,
Speaker 1: just let us know that you can hear be Pete
Speaker 1: in the room now because hopefully, hopefully it's fine. It
Speaker 1: looks fine, and if there's a problem, I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to take things apart and figure it out.
Speaker 2: But okay, all right, Aaron said, and Face both said
Speaker 2: they just heard me. So maybe it's it's working out.
Speaker 1: I don't know. There might be yeah, there might be
Speaker 1: some Look, there's been a couple of weird ghosts in
Speaker 1: the machine tonight, so I don't know. We might have
Speaker 1: went down temporarily and we had a help. Okay, we
Speaker 1: had a hell of a time even connecting to you
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show. So yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I hear him, and hopefully you guys do too.
Speaker 1: But back to it. I've been criticized before for this
Speaker 1: whole like, you know, well, okay, so you just hate
Speaker 1: the Jews, and I'm like, no, no, no, no. I
Speaker 1: can criticize the nation state of Israel and say that
Speaker 1: I don't care about their justifications for stuff, and that
Speaker 1: doesn't make me an anti Semite. And the weird thing
Speaker 1: is because I didn't want to blame all the world's
Speaker 1: problems on the Jews. I was on networks at certain
Speaker 1: points where the chat rooms were screaming at me that
Speaker 1: you know, well, you know what it is. He's an
Speaker 1: Italian and all Italians are secret Jews, like Christopher Columbus
Speaker 1: was a secret Jew and this and that, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my God, I swear to God, I'm sorry they're
Speaker 1: doing this. And I'm like, you know what, I'm even
Speaker 1: worse to you people than that, But no, I'm not
Speaker 1: a I wouldn't care if you want to. You know,
Speaker 1: they were calling me Ocelliberg at one point in one chat,
Speaker 1: really you're not kidding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing I can say. And that's where
Speaker 2: Fetcher and them started veering off years back. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: know it. It was, oh, we're not anti Semites, but
Speaker 2: you know, the Zionists and all this, and then and
Speaker 2: and then eventually it came down to once he decided
Speaker 2: to drop the veil, well, the Holocaust, you know, really
Speaker 2: needs to be questioned. And yeah, now it is the Jews,
Speaker 2: not designist. This just comes straight out and say it
Speaker 2: is the Jews. That's what Nick Wents has been saying
Speaker 2: all along, is the Jews forget Zionism. Now you're seeing
Speaker 2: Tucker and making Kelly and Canvas and you know, the
Speaker 2: big talking heads making us switch. And it's amazing how
Speaker 2: quick they switch. You know, Tucker announced that, I mean
Speaker 2: he's getting money from Qatar right now, they're funding them.
Speaker 2: He's bought property. He's even Bragg I bought property in Qatar.
Speaker 2: It's a great place. You know, Christians. The Christians have
Speaker 2: a free ride over here. It's just like an American
Speaker 2: and it's like no in Qatar. The only people that
Speaker 2: are Christians are the people that they bring into work,
Speaker 2: and they're only allowed to worship under certain conditions. You
Speaker 2: just can't stand on the corner and start screaming out
Speaker 2: of a bible, you know. Yeah, but Tucker has taken
Speaker 2: this new vent and it's like they hit them all
Speaker 2: at the same time, almost like it's coordinated. Now, I know,
Speaker 2: the conspiracy theory in me, theorist in me is going
Speaker 2: to say, well, it's all coordinated. It's kind of hard
Speaker 2: not to see that something's going on. How do you
Speaker 2: take four talking heads like that to do a complete
Speaker 2: one eighty in the matter of six months?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and again, when you take a look at
Speaker 1: the money that's coming in and you're giving that money.
Speaker 1: At some points they start to give you the money first,
Speaker 1: then they tell you, look, you want to keep getting
Speaker 1: that money, here's what we need. And they do that
Speaker 1: to people. I know that for a fact, and it
Speaker 1: could be from various interests that do that. You know.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing that eats me, you know, you take
Speaker 2: Dave Smith, all right, he's real big in the circuit
Speaker 2: right now. I don't know why they say he's comedian.
Speaker 2: I've never seen him do a stand up. I've never
Speaker 2: even heard him say anything that was funny, but he's
Speaker 2: the big raide right now. You know, he's going after
Speaker 2: Dan Bongino since Dave Spongino quit and is going to
Speaker 2: come back on with his podcast and all, and he
Speaker 2: and Dave Smith are going at it now. They're having
Speaker 2: their little Twitter war. But you know they I want
Speaker 2: everybody out there that that and I've been hit with
Speaker 2: this before too. Oh you support Israel, you you support genocide. Look,
Speaker 2: you can say that the Israelis have influence over the US,
Speaker 2: and they've got their spies over here, and they've got
Speaker 2: their money over here, and they control everything. You can
Speaker 2: damn sure bet anything that you accuse another nation of
Speaker 2: doing here in the United States, you can damn well
Speaker 2: believe we're doing it in twenty other places everywhere else
Speaker 2: in the world. It's not a one sided thing. No,
Speaker 2: we're just as dirty as the rest of them. You
Speaker 2: pick a country, we're just as dirty as they are
Speaker 2: when it comes to funneling money and trying to influence
Speaker 2: and overthrow governments and color revolutions. That's what this whole
Speaker 2: damn Ukraine thing started with. Biden and Obama get involved
Speaker 2: over in Ukraine, trying to control what went on over there.
Speaker 2: They're Yellow Revolution. That was nothing more than our CIA
Speaker 2: going over there and causing turmoil. That's all it was.
Speaker 1: Okay, So when Dave Smith.
Speaker 2: Gets out here and he starts talking about the Jews
Speaker 2: so bad, it's like, dude, they're no worse than we are.
Speaker 2: Think about it.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm behind the curve because I don't even know
Speaker 1: Dave Smith is. Let's see if Danny knows, because he's
Speaker 1: still on the line.
Speaker 3: No, I don't even know who Dave Smith. You no clue. Joh,
Speaker 3: wait a minute.
Speaker 1: Dave Smith is one of Joe Rogan's buddies.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been on Rogan constantly.
Speaker 1: I'm behind then because I don't know this guy.
Speaker 2: You know what it is.
Speaker 1: I can't stand Rogan. I really can't. I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people listen to him and just tell me,
Speaker 1: oh no, it's really good. I don't know how I cannot.
Speaker 1: I can listen to a lot of things, okay, And
Speaker 1: I even listen to the stupid AI audio tracks on
Speaker 1: YouTube with you know, people have whole channels that it's
Speaker 1: just you know, an AI voiceover over different clips of
Speaker 1: things that interest them. And I even listen to that.
Speaker 1: I'm getting used to those sadly, but I can't listen
Speaker 1: to Rogan like he does four hour podcasts. I don't
Speaker 1: know how anybody listens to it all. I can barely
Speaker 1: stand him for a clip. You know, Like Rogan to
Speaker 1: me is not funny. Most of his stupid friends are
Speaker 1: not funny.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: He's got that uh, and and it grows entire other
Speaker 1: podcasts and entire universe of stuff is out there that's
Speaker 1: like in the Rogan sphere. And I guess Dave Smith
Speaker 1: is he new? Is he kind of new? That guy?
Speaker 2: He's been podcasting for quite a while. Now, let me
Speaker 2: look him up.
Speaker 1: Man. See, I thought I was on this because I
Speaker 1: know about Brandon Schwab and you know, and the you know,
Speaker 1: the guy they got from M M A. And that
Speaker 1: jerk Kurt Kreischner who you know has the one story
Speaker 1: I'm the machine, that idiot you know who thinks he's
Speaker 1: a stand up comedian. They all make bank, uh doing
Speaker 1: appearances and their podcasts. They're all making tons of money
Speaker 1: even there. They're they're sort of tangential friends make money,
Speaker 1: and they occasionally, you know, get one of their friends
Speaker 1: on the Rogan uh, you know, the Joe Rogan experience
Speaker 1: and it entirely makes people's careers. But I can't keep track.
Speaker 2: He's he has his own podcast called Part of the Problem.
Speaker 2: This is his Wikipedia entry says. Smith is a close
Speaker 2: friend of Joe Rogan and regular guest on The Joe
Speaker 2: Rogan Experience. He has frequently appeared on Fox's News Is Kennedy,
Speaker 2: The Greg Gutfield Show, CNN's se Cup Unfiltered. He's also
Speaker 2: appeared on the Lex Friedman podcast. He's a libertarian, is
Speaker 2: raised in Brooklyn. He's Jewish. See, so he can get
Speaker 2: out there and talk shit about the Jews because he's
Speaker 2: Jewish and that gives him way. Well, you know, here
Speaker 2: we got Dave Smith, is Jew and he's complaining about him,
Speaker 2: so they got to be bad.
Speaker 1: Okay. So it's it's sort of like the Ben Shapiro
Speaker 1: thing now right where it's like he's allowed to criticize
Speaker 1: it because he's got a yawn too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, they're all talking out against Shapiro now because he's
Speaker 2: the Jew they're coming to get out against Mark Levin's
Speaker 2: It's you've seen a split in the in the conservative
Speaker 2: podcasting and now they're picking sides. Who you're with, You're
Speaker 2: with the Tucker crowd, Camas crowd, or you're with the
Speaker 2: Ben Shapiro, Mark Levin kroud. And if you're with them,
Speaker 2: they're Jewish, so you're controlled by Jews. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Okay. So Dave Smith in this scenario is the good Jew?
Speaker 1: Is that the idea? Like, he's the good Jew?
Speaker 2: Yes, he's He's the liberal Jew that you can believe
Speaker 2: because he talked shit about Israel and Jews and Zionists.
Speaker 1: Okay, but Ben Shapiro's no good because he's supporting Israel.
Speaker 1: Is that understand.
Speaker 2: Shapiro is no good because he's trying to take According
Speaker 2: to Oh God, Steve Bannon, Ben Shapiro started under Breitbart.
Speaker 2: He started about two months before Breitbart died, right, okay,
Speaker 2: And he went from there and he went to He
Speaker 2: was working with Dave Horowitz for a while before he
Speaker 2: passed away at his foundation, and he tried to take over,
Speaker 2: according to Bann, and he's tried to take over everywhere
Speaker 2: he's been. So then he started the Daily Wane with
Speaker 2: this other guy. So that's where Ben Shapiro. That's how
Speaker 2: Candace got connected with him because she worked at the
Speaker 2: Daily Wire and Dave Ruben is at the Daily Wire,
Speaker 2: and so you had those podcasters Matt Walsh, Dave Ruben,
Speaker 2: candas Owens. Oh, I can't think of the guy Andrew Clavin.
Speaker 2: He's Jewish. So you know, now the Daily Wire is
Speaker 2: this Jewish cabal. Oh, and they're bad because Candace left
Speaker 2: there and they've been picking on canvas because Candace has
Speaker 2: basically been trying to trash them ever since she left. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I noticed candas Owen has been fired from every job
Speaker 2: she had. She got fired from TPUSA, she got fired
Speaker 2: from prager U, she got fired from the Daily Wire.
Speaker 2: Now she's out on her own to all these connections.
Speaker 1: Right now. That's another weird thing here because I thought
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro was about to take over TPUSA, if that's.
Speaker 2: What they're claiming. Yeah, that's the big thing. Okay, Now
Speaker 2: TPUSA is bad because Ben Shapiro's going to take it over.
Speaker 2: Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk were friends for a long time,
Speaker 2: a long time, right, And in fact, the last person
Speaker 2: that Charlie Kirk had on his podcast I believe was
Speaker 2: Ben Shapiro. And then see he gets the opening spot
Speaker 2: at Amfest after Erica Kirk comes out then it's Ben
Speaker 2: Shapiro and he's saying, we need to stop all this
Speaker 2: jew hatred. We don't have room for it in the party.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah. Israel is an ally of ours. Anyway,
Speaker 2: he gives his speech. Then you have Tucker come at
Speaker 2: the end of the program and he just trashes Shapiro
Speaker 2: right there on stage, talking about Zionists and to the detriment,
Speaker 2: and we don't need them controlling our policy and everything
Speaker 2: we do. And that's one of the Dave Smith things.
Speaker 2: The big thing is every war we have ever fought
Speaker 2: was because the Jews needed us to fight it, all right,
Speaker 2: regardless of what war it was. The Jews were connected
Speaker 2: and we did it because of them.
Speaker 1: Okay, So on the one side you have everybody who
Speaker 1: was like speaking from the same talking points that mel
Speaker 1: Gibson did at his Dui stop about fifteen years ago, right,
Speaker 1: And then on the other side, on the other side,
Speaker 1: you have the hey, look, we see that Israel is
Speaker 1: not a good thing, sort of like the liberals do.
Speaker 1: But we're not the terrorists they are, and we're also
Speaker 1: right wing. So explain this one thing to me, b Pete,
Speaker 1: and then maybe Dan wants to throw in something here
Speaker 1: or whatever, because we're going to run out of time soon.
Speaker 1: But I'm confused because lately, what I've been seeing is
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan is turning on Trump. Right now. They keep
Speaker 1: saying this and putting out clips saying that Joe Rogan
Speaker 1: is turning against the you know, the Trump agenda. But
Speaker 1: every time I open up one of those clips and
Speaker 1: try and stomach it for five minutes to listen to him,
Speaker 1: it's not what the clip says. They keep putting a
Speaker 1: thumbnail out with this, and it's all different channels.
Speaker 2: The thing is with Rogan, he may not like some
Speaker 2: of the policies. Now, he didn't. He didn't go along
Speaker 2: with what was going on in Gaza and the way
Speaker 2: that was handled, and a lot of people have legitimate
Speaker 2: gripes about that, and that's for another discussion, but it's
Speaker 2: the Epstein files is the biggest thing. The Epstein files
Speaker 2: has caused the biggest divide in the Republican Party since
Speaker 2: Trump said he was going to release everything, and now
Speaker 2: they suddenly find a million more files on the night
Speaker 2: that they're supposed to have them all released. You know,
Speaker 2: crap like that going on. So that's been the biggest
Speaker 2: thing to drive that started this wedge was Epstein Files.
Speaker 2: You know, that's why Marjorie Taylor Green said, I'm retiring
Speaker 2: after the first of the year. I'm getting out of
Speaker 2: this because I went against Trump on the Epstein Files
Speaker 2: and now I'm catching hell for it. So she's getting out.
Speaker 2: Of course, the thing is she's getting out before somebody
Speaker 2: puts her on a contract list, you know, because she's
Speaker 2: going against Trump and she's going against Israel, and you
Speaker 2: know she's she's an American first or no, that's the division.
Speaker 2: Now America first or versus Israel first. Her that's thrown
Speaker 2: in on top of it. Okay, but she's got like
Speaker 2: nine different divisions that are starting to create this huge wedge.
Speaker 2: Now one little you know when they say the thin
Speaker 2: edge of the wedge is the beginning, Well, now you
Speaker 2: got about nine wedges shoved in there, and they just
Speaker 2: keep hammering them in.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess so. Because here's the weird thing is
Speaker 1: that Marjorie Taylor Green probably would have been primaried out
Speaker 1: even without Trump running the party. She would have been
Speaker 1: primaried out for objecting to Israel being in the part
Speaker 1: of Georgia. She's from. Her objections to Israel would have
Speaker 1: been automatically disqualifying based on, you know, the Georgians that
Speaker 1: she's representing in that district quite frankly, so she was
Speaker 1: going to go out if she complained about that. But
Speaker 1: I thought her main thing was again in the Epstein files,
Speaker 1: and since you're not going to release the hell with you,
Speaker 1: you know, and then she was trying to convince him
Speaker 1: to release him. I thought, but you know what, this
Speaker 1: is very confusing. I don't understand the little civil war
Speaker 1: in the magasby or so to speak. I really don't,
Speaker 1: I guess, And clearly I'm not keeping track of Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan since I don't know who the hell Dave Smith is.
Speaker 1: Still I'm picking my brain trying to find where I've
Speaker 1: even seen this guy mentioned. I know, they had like
Speaker 1: the wacky idiot conspiracy theory guy on there that people
Speaker 1: were destroying online, But that wasn't Dave Smith. He's not
Speaker 1: a comedian, that guy. He's supposedly some professor or something
Speaker 1: that was just making idiotic statements and they were like,
Speaker 1: look at how bad this is. Even Joe Rogan can't
Speaker 1: buy this conspiracy theory guy and I saw that. But
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know. I'm out of date. I'm
Speaker 1: not able to keep track of all this. I mean,
Speaker 1: Candace has so much chaos going on, I can't you know,
Speaker 1: and all of it beginning with Mac Crohn's wife as
Speaker 1: a penis. I don't know, man, it's just it's too much.
Speaker 1: But Dan, are you confused or is it just me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm confused. Well, I don't really you know, I'm
Speaker 3: not a politically a conservative, so I don't really I
Speaker 3: don't find value for me listening to all these conservative
Speaker 3: talk shows and podcasts. I just don't have the time.
Speaker 3: Falling just doesn't I'm done with that. So the Civil
Speaker 3: War then fighting, you know what I find out.
Speaker 2: But one thing is this I am.
Speaker 3: I am a lifelong cradle devout Catholic and I don't
Speaker 3: understand like what they're saying. I've never heard this anti semitism,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of what they're saying about blaming the
Speaker 3: Jews all the time. But I do know that there
Speaker 3: has always been an element in the Church throughout history,
Speaker 3: there's been some elements that were, you know, against the Jews.
Speaker 3: There's a great book by James Carroll Constantine's Sword that
Speaker 3: talked about decades where there was churches that where they
Speaker 3: kind of like formed ghettos and persecuted the Jews, and
Speaker 3: there's other times they were protecting the Jews. So it
Speaker 3: was kind of a it was kind of like a
Speaker 3: roller coaster that I would say overall, the relationships pretty
Speaker 3: good with them, But these influencers, they don't speak for
Speaker 3: me on the way I view my faith.
Speaker 1: But it depends when you look at the history of
Speaker 1: the church show. It depends on what time period you're
Speaker 1: looking at, because there's also post World War Two. You
Speaker 1: know where they're hiding Nazi war criminals. We know that now,
Speaker 1: you know that. I take that as a proven fact.
Speaker 1: Some people would say that's a conspiracy theory, but it
Speaker 1: looks pretty proof positive.
Speaker 2: I believe it.
Speaker 1: I believe it.
Speaker 3: I believe it's to be true. And I remember the church.
Speaker 3: They I know they, I knew they, I knew they
Speaker 3: hit they hit pedophiles.
Speaker 1: I know they hit the six of.
Speaker 3: His I mean I didn't. That's not what the experience
Speaker 3: I had. I mean, it really angers me that this
Speaker 3: has happened because it's not what the church teaches. But
Speaker 3: it's supposedly the the the Church Christ founded, but with
Speaker 3: very fallible and simple people you know in it at
Speaker 3: all levels.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Well, I was actually talking about the
Speaker 1: Nazis that they were hiding, not the not the pedophiles.
Speaker 1: But that's another thing, you know, yet again another situation
Speaker 1: where they hide these different criminals at different points in time. Sure,
Speaker 1: and you know, of course there's the whole thing about
Speaker 1: the Vatican Bank.
Speaker 2: And we did in our country. We had von Braun
Speaker 2: over here working for NASA, and he would have been
Speaker 2: a war criminal under any other circumstances.
Speaker 1: Oh no, those guys, I mean, yeah, we took a
Speaker 1: bunch of those guys.
Speaker 3: At right heart date one, Yeah, d C I A.
Speaker 3: I mean Brian Hartley Gitlin. He was the head of
Speaker 3: the SS for Eastern European and we basically you know,
Speaker 3: he probably helped us get started the Cold War in
Speaker 3: my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he traded his whole communication network where he was
Speaker 1: keeping track of Communists to us for you know, bringing
Speaker 1: him in under paper clip. I know that I'm not saying,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying. The Church though, also has a
Speaker 1: checkered history here where you got you know, time periods
Speaker 1: where there are people that they were hiding for different
Speaker 1: reasons that were criminals. That's all I'm saying. I'm not
Speaker 1: even making a judgment about it. I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: that's just one of those things that's happened, you know.
Speaker 1: And but but the weirdest thing still to me is that,
Speaker 1: you know, like a lot of these guys they go, oh,
Speaker 1: they're white supremacists. White supremacists, you know, in the old
Speaker 1: days anyway, did not like Catholics. I don't understand how
Speaker 1: they allied with them.
Speaker 2: No I can.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know we're running out of time, but
Speaker 3: I know stories as a kid growing up, I ran
Speaker 3: into Catholic biger trees, these you know, these nice little
Speaker 3: church leaving people, and they found that I was a Catholic.
Speaker 3: They both said I was like nine, ten eleven. They
Speaker 3: they read me the riot at They pretty much were
Speaker 3: convinced that I was going to hell on the hand,
Speaker 3: biscuit and a rocket.
Speaker 1: You look at what the.
Speaker 2: Big thing about Kennedy, He's a Catholic.
Speaker 1: And also anti Italian sentiment in the country was largely
Speaker 1: driven by anti Catholic sentiment because the majority of the
Speaker 1: Italians came over as immigrants and it was like they're
Speaker 1: gonna their loyalty will be with the pope instead of
Speaker 1: our country when they come here. That was the big complaint.
Speaker 1: So anyway, look, we are out of time, though, so
Speaker 1: I want to give Danny a final kind of like
Speaker 1: shout out and repeat the same thing, and then we'll
Speaker 1: close it out and get to the Age of Transitions
Speaker 1: with Aaron Franz coming up next. So Nanny, go ahead
Speaker 1: with your fine word for the week.
Speaker 3: Okay, my final word of the week would be out
Speaker 3: of the out of the epistol. Romans do not overcome
Speaker 3: by evil, but overcome evil with good. So I just
Speaker 3: hope that somebody gets it. Hopefully I can live by
Speaker 3: what I preach. Thank you for letting me come.
Speaker 1: On listen, and I appreciate you for calling in. It
Speaker 1: was great to talk to you and always always welcome, Danny.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much, v pe your final word for the
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