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Speaker 1: Well, welcome back everyone to a new episode of You

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Were Wrong with Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of the

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Federalist and David Harsani, senior writer at The Washington Examiner.

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We love to hear from you. Hi, Mollie, how are

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you doing. I'm okay, great, I'm okay. Let's start with

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Daniel Penny today, the New Yorker who was on a

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subway train where this individual, I think he was homeless,

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named Jordan Neely, maybe Anthali Ille, I'm not exactly sure,

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threatened subway riders in a way that people. I mean,

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you've been to New York many times, you know, I

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grew up there. There were many times I was stuck

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on a subway car with someone who seemed pretty dangerous,

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you know, was threatening others, and in many instances, not

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that I've ever saw it, you know, there was violence.

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So he did what a good Samaritan should do, and

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in my view, a man, you know, who was able

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to should do, and you know, he got involved and

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he put the man in a headlock. But the man

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died and Alvin Bragg charged him with I think there

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were initially more charges. Maybe he pulled back some charges.

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I don't know if you know about that, but manslaughter essentially,

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and a jury in Manhattan found him not guilty, and

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that made me very happy.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy that the jury found him not guilty, but

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i am not. That is not justice because he never

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should have been charged and he never should have gone

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through all of this that he went through because he

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tried to help out his neighbors who he didn't even know.

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And it's so bad for society when you're charging the

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people who are actually doing good things. And Jordan Neely

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clearly was you know, yes, yes he was threatening to

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kill people, and yes he was saying that he didn't

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care if he died that day, and he was incredibly threatening.

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It also appears that he was dealing with all sorts

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of other problems like not having a good family, being crazy,

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being you know, mentally unwell, being homeless, you know, being

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drug addled. All of these things combined to create a

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horrible situation. That you had a good Samaritan come in

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and try to help everybody out is a wonderful thing,

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and it's a It's a great example. This guy should

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have been given the keys to the city, he should

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have been lauded, he should have been winning awards, and instead,

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this evil Manhattan district attorney who's funded by groups that

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you know are funded by all sorts of left wing billionaires,

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he charged him with a crime. I mean, New York

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City has many problems with crime that are going unprosecuted

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because this same district attorney believes in restorative justice trends

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that require you not to charge people with crimes when

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they've clearly committed them, or to downgrade what you're charging

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them with, to waste taxpayer dollars and money on this

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is evil, to discourage other men from doing what is right.

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Is a horrific attack on women and children by Alvin Bragg.

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And so yes, I'm thrilled that the New York City

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jury found him not guilty, but that doesn't mean that

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I'm happy with this situation.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I agree. The prosecution itself was meant to share

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the ability. You know, most most people don't want their

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lives ruined. They don't, especially in New York. You've been

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in New York and people don't want to get involved

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in situations you know, I mean all you know, it's

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happened to all of us. But protecting women from from

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someone who seems violent, it's something everyone should do. So

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But now in the back of your head, you're going

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to think, Alvin Bragg is going to bring me in

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a court, charge me with manslaughter, ruins my life. So

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I think that's part of this for sure. I don't

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know if you remember, Alvin Bragg went after a bodego

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worker who had stopped some kind of robbery. It didn't

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go you know, to couln't charge him in the end

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because it was so ridiculous. But I'm sure it'll happen again.

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Alvin Bragg. If you remember the Columbia students who rioted

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and took over a building and destroyed property and threatened

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Jewish students, he let them go scott free. You know,

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so obviously it's not just restorative justice. I think that

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he is, you know, just a kooky left winger who's

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going to you know, helping to destroy that city. And finally,

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you know, I see a lot of people compare Daniel

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Penny to Bernie gets So when I was young, there

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was this guy, Bernie Getz. If you're younger. You may

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not know he you know, how can I put this?

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He was a vigilante. I don't think it's the same situation.

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He went out looking you know, he had been the

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the you know, he had been the victim of crime.

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he was looking to, you know, exact some vengeance. I

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think now, listen, he was a folk hero in New

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York and because crime was out of control. But you

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have to expect I think Daniel Penny Penny was far

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more you know, he just reacted to a situation the

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right way. But you know, there's only so much people

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can take as far as criminality goes. And when when

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the authorities won't do anything, not just won't they do anything,

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but they're going to be on the side of the criminals.

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I think vigilanteism is good, but people have to defend

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themselves and protect themselves and protect their neighbors in the end,

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Speaker 2: So one of the other bad things about the situation

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is that racists tried to exploit the fact that the

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victim was black, not the victim. The guy who died

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was black, and I don't know what that proper way

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to describe that situation was. And that the guy who

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rescued everybody in the car and who put him in

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a chokehold was white. And they said this shows that

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white people are evil and that black people need to

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be vigilantes against white people. And it was just all

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sorts of racist, awful stuff that was going on, and

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that didn't seem to resonate with much of America either.

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You know, they were trying to foment riots at the

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end when the acquittal happened, and you had various BLM

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hucksters out there trying to do that, and it just

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didn't work. And so I wonder, do you think this

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is possibly the end of the BLM racism and Marxism

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that we saw recavoc across the country for so many years.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the end, but people are

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definitely sick of it. And it actually even predates the

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BLM stuff in the nineties or late eighties. They would

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have been a riot after this, you know, Al Sharpton

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would have been there, and there would have been a

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riot or some kind of you know, public you know,

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disturbance or something, and I should say it is tragedy.

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It's a tragedy what happened to Jordan Neely in the

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sense of how you know, you know he felt hate

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using this cliche, fell through the cracks. But you know,

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we need to help people who need help. But yeah,

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they want to make everything racist. So my answer to

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that is, I don't think it's over. But obviously I

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think some people, probably many Democrats, are just getting sick

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of it. I saw just slightly related. I saw a

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poll of New Yorkers on whether they want to to

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poort illegal immigrants, and like fifty eight percent in the

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suburbs and fifty four percent within Manhattan. In New York City,

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not just Manhattan. I do want to do that, you know,

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I think there's just there there, you know, no one.

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It reminds me of when Rudy Giuliani became mayor. You know,

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no one wants to live. You know, quality of life

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is more important than anyology for a lot of people,

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so they don't. I don't think you have the luxury

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of being of engaging in BLM stuff when your life

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is you know, your quality of life is declining. So

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as well. Anyway, it was Yeah.

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Speaker 2: On that note, I have also found something interesting about

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this post election environment where you have people because of

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how big the Republican victory was, even in the face

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of just the unbelievable propaganda press and all the institutions

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sort of being aligned against Republicans. But because the victory

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was big, you have people coming out and speaking a

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little more freely about why they changed to vote for Republicans.

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And one of the things I've been hearing a lot

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from various influencers or podcasters is how they really think

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Democrats are doing a bad job of running their own city,

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or even just the ways in which they interact with politics.

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They are not pleased with Democrat governance. And that could

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be anything from the city like I said, to inflationary policies.

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And you mentioned this guy falling through the cracks, although

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I read that he had been given housing for a

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certain period of time and he left within a few

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days because he just couldn't handle it. I think a

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lot of the problems that we have in the country

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with homeless people or drug addle people, it's so much

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more complex than the homeless industrial complex could even hope

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to deal with and also they don't really hope to

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deal with it. That complex looks to make money off

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of taxpayers without solving anything. I mean, there's always the

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issue that people who receive large gests from the government

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don't want to solve it because then they don't get

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the money from the government. But they're not even trying.

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And the plans of a lot of these people on

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the left in this massive nonprofit an environment that works

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with government funding, it's really hurting the country and it's

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not yielding good results. And I'm wondering if you're going

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to see more and more voters rejecting that governance structure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's not just the Democrats run cities. It's

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that crackpot progressives run cities. There's the craziest people. I mean,

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Alvin Bragg is just you know, just a nut and

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he is you know, he is in New York City

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making decisions for how people live their lives. It's just

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even when I was young, it would it would it

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was unfathomable to me, unfathomable to me that there would

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be these very successful people who live like in Manhattan

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and they would vote for the most incompetent nut jobs

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on earth to run their city. This makes no sense

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to me, but I do think this ties into something else,

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that that that happened, and that in a weird way,

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and that's the the murder of the United CEO and

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the arrest of I think his name was Luigi Mangion.

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You saw a lot of progressives rationalize and justify It's

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not exactly the same thing, but rationalize and justify criminality

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murder because you know of their disdain for capitalism or

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whatever nonsense they came up with. And we're not just

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talking about sort of crazy progues. I'm talking about Elizabeth Warren,

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who is a prominent senator who says that the killing

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was vile. But this is a warning that if you

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push people hard enough, they lose faith in the ability

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of their government to take charge. Violence is never the answer.

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That people can only be pushed too far, which is

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simply a rationalization and justification for violence. Now, A, that's

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never okay. Also, whatever, I don't want to get into

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the health care insurance business. And B this kid was

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a privileged who comes from a very affluent, wealthy family.

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There is no one pushed him to do anything. This

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is leftist mind virus, you know what I mean. And anyway,

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to me, Alvin Bragg and these and people who justify

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and I'll give you another example, people who justify and

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rationalize the killing of Zionists or Jews or whatever because they,

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you know, of colonialism. This is to me all kind

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of interconnected. I don't know if this makes any sense

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what I'm saying, but it's all interconnected.

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Speaker 2: He said, you don't want to get into the insurance thing.

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But this is one of the things that has bothered

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me about the response to this assassination in the middle

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of New York City. We were told in twenty ten

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that Obamacare and the Democrats plan for healthcare would cure

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everything wrong with our healthcare system, and they took over

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a massive part of the US economy in order to

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do this. They you know, barely pushed it through Congress,

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manipulating every procedure they could. And now Elizabeth Warren is

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saying this is this is what happens. I mean, had

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she build Obamacare as something that also leads to targeted

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assassinations because people can't put up with it, that would

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have probably not helped out her.

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Speaker 1: Cause, right, well, I mean for her, she wants, you know,

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she wants more, so she'd just tell you it wasn't enough,

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Obamacare didn't go far enough because they think that, you know,

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like the manifesto this kid had said something like, you know,

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they care about profit above people. You know, it's this

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kind of trope leftist ideal. Without profit, you don't have

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medical care. I'm not saying the insurance industry is perfect.

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I think there are a lot of problems we can

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all agree. But the idea that that this guy was

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out there killing people and so forth, it's stoked by

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someone who acts This reminds me of calling you know,

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the president, the presidential candidate Hitler every day. I said,

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I'm not saying I'm trying to chill anyone's speech. Could

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say whatever you want, but it is what it is,

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right And and I went through this kid's I keep

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calling him a kid, he's a man, he's a young man.

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and really there was nothing in it that would have

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led me to believe that he would act this way.

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It was kind of boring. And sort of pseudo intellectual,

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you know. He's really into like technocratic democrat writers and stuff.

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There was nothing like that. So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: The whole thing is weird, to the point that I'm

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curious what it is that we don't know. I have

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seen three different things put out there as quote unquote manifestos,

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and I know, technically manifesto just means explanation of why

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you did something. However, they're all so short that I

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just in my mind manifesto is like Ted Kaczynski's unibomber thesis,

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where it's very long and detailed and weird, you know,

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and these are in some cases the suppose manifesto is

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just a paragraph. And so I don't know which one,

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if any of the ones I've read is real. Obviously

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all three are not, and so it's hard to divine

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greater meaning or even I wonder should you try to

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take greater meaning when people are killing people for a

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political cause. It is what they want, and to give

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them that reward is very It just does not set

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right with me. But also, yeah, like to your point,

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he's something seems off about this as a very wealthy kid,

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someone who's in a family that they can afford to

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take care of things health related. It seems even if

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insurance isn't covering something fairly young.

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Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of a lot of revolutionary violence

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comes from bourgeois, you know, like Ted Kezinsky is not poor.

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You know, he quotes Ted Kaczinsky on his Goodreads page

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that I saw and it made me think, you know,

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they had a maybe had a somewhat of a similar

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outlook on the world from what I saw.

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Speaker 2: So I you know, I've gotten in trouble for saying

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this before, but you know, I do like to It's horrible,

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but I'm obsessed, you know, when something like this happens

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and I look for explanations, most manifestos indicate that the

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person involved is either stupid or crazy. In my view,

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the Ted Kaczinski one is a notable exception. You know,

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you read it and there's some really interesting stuff about

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how technology is affecting humanity. Obviously, I completely opposed the

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murderous spree that he went on as part of his

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beliefs on technology. The other quote unquote manifesto, which was

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poorly edited but interesting, was Anders Breiviick's explanation for why

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he murdered all those children in Europe. Do you remember

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that Norway?

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Speaker 1: I think it wasn't an island.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was. It was a horrible crime.

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I mean, just a horrific situation of how he killed

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these children, how intentional he was and what he was doing,

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and his explanation for it was to bring attention to

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what he thought were some Again, in Elizabeth Warren's parlance,

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you know, he'd just taken so much and he couldn't

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take it anymore, and so you don't excuse it. But no, sorry,

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that's I just hate when people talk that way. You

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know what, I excuse murdering a father of two children.

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Sometimes that's what happened. No, it's not what happens. We

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all get angry at people all the time, and we

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don't murder people because that's not an appropriate response to

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being really frustrated and fed up with any number of things.

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Speaker 1: And imagine, imagine, let me think JD. Van saying someone's killed,

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you know, on the left, and him saying, you know,

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that's terrible, some perfunctory you know statement, and saying, but

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you know, kind of deserved it. You know the industry's terrible. Yeah,

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I mean if the insurance if you can kill CEOs

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who are part of the insurance health you know, the

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healthcare insurance industry, then you know, then you have a

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rationalition for big oil, you know, for big pharma, for

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I mean, you know, it's it's it's like commune is

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reverting to form in my in my view.

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Speaker 2: Well, and you noted how you knowed how wealthy this

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kid was and his victim was someone who had grown

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up in Iowa with working class parents, who by virtue

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of being really smart and hard working, made it to

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this very top tier position versus the alleged assassin who

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was born into privilege, went to a very fancy pants

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high school, went to Ivy League college, and then killed

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this father of two.

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Speaker 1: There's another aspect of this I wanted to talk about

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for a bit. We are constantly being and I wrote

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about this in my recent book. I detailed how virtually

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every week there's a new report from the Justice Department,

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or there was for years, about how right wingers are

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ready to commit violence, how white supremacists are ready to

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you know, spring a coup on us, and all of

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this stuff. And of course I'm not saying there's no

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no right wing violence, but we have a left wing

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violence problem in this country. We have it on college campuses,

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we have it in assassination attempts. You know, going back

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to the Alexandria baseball field, and no one is talking

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about left wing violence, which has been predominant, the predominant

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political violence in American history. I know everyone thinks of

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Oklahoma City, but you know what, in the early nineteen hundreds,

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communists and anarchists were constantly blowing up things, including on

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Wall Street where they killed thirty people. I don't know

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if people knows in nineteen twenty, in the seventies, I

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looked this up recently. In one eighteen month span in

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the nineteen seventies there were two thousand, six hundred bombings

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by the weather on ground in other left his groups.

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left wing violence has been the predominant I think, you know,

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strain of political violence in the country. I'm not saying

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that every you know Democrat is at fault, but it's

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a problem. If this was a right wing or who

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did this, we would be plunged into a national conversation

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about it, and about conservative rhetoric. You remember the Paul

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Pelosi thing. All of us had to take ownership of that.

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You know, every conservative was at fault. And now you know,

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they pretend it's completely apart from their ideology when it's not.

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Speaker 2: Well, even that guy who attacked Paul Pelosi, I think

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though he hated Nincy Pelosi was a crazy man, but

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a crazy man affiliated with various.

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Speaker 1: Left wing Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's what I was going to say about your

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pointing out this disparity in left wing versus right wing violence. Obviously,

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any political faction is capable of violence, and we've sadly

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seen how that happens. What we saw in the seventies

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was the FBI was heavily tracking left wing groups, infiltrating them,

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and engaged in various activity that was wrong. You know,

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I think we all, well, all right thinking people or

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rational people have come to see the many problems with

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how our FBI has done things. But the response of

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the FBI to being caught tracking all these left wing

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groups was basically to stop tracking them completely to this

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day and instead to track a bunch of right wing groups.

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Right wing groups tend to be really respectful of authority.

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They don't even get upset when the FBI infiltrates one

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of their fringe groups and then arrests everybody involved, because

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they view these they view it bad, you know, if

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you're fringe. And so the FBI has spent the last

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few decades very comfortably infiltrating with people on the right

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and never getting any pushback from it at all. And

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they still don't go after anyone on the left because

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of what happened to them when they did that in

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the sixties and early seventies.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Biden DOJ will will say that parents

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upset about you know, COVID restrictions and all these you know,

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social science quackery or domestic potential domestic terrorists. But these

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left you know, but the media and others will go

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out and defend Antifa, you know, because it says they're

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anti fascist right there in the name, so it must

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be true. And you know, I mean, think about BLM.

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It was if probably the most violent sparked the most

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violent you know, widespread violence in American history, you know,

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and at least a modern American history. And you know,

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they were propped up by corporate money and by you know, politicians,

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including some Republicans.

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Speaker 2: So I just want to point out Chris Ray, who

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has been overseeing the FBI for the last seven years,

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an era that has been horrific in terms of us

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realizing all the nefarious things the FBI has done on

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Americans to try to run a soft coup against President

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Trump in his first administration, lying to Faiza courts, leaking

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like sieves to hurt political opponents, going after parents, going

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after pro lifers, doing nothing in the face of left

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wing violence right, And Chris Ray, every time he's asked

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about it, he says, I could not be prouder of

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the men and women of the FBI. They've done nothing wrong,

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and I condemn you for saying anything right. And one

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time when Congress was asking him some questions, he claimed

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he had to go to an important meeting, and one

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reporter in the world, Miranda Divine, found out that no,

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actually he was taking an FBI jet to a vacation. Right.

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And last week Senator Mike Rounds of South Dakota, which

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is kind of a bloody red state, said that he

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loves Chris Ray and he couldn't think of a thing

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in the world that Chris Ray had done wrong. He said, literally,

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I do not have a single solitary complaint about anything

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he's done in his job. Senator Mike Rounds supposed Republican

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from South Dakota. So when the FBI goes after leftist bombers,

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every Democrat in Congress says, you come after another one

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of our people, We're going to destroy you, and they

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back off for decades. And on the right there are

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these senators like Mike Rounds of South Dakota who says,

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I love the FBI for going after my voters. I

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couldn't love him more. I love how they attack my voters.

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I think it's cool. And you better not take Chris

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Ray out out of a job. I mean, there's something

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seriously wrong with Republican elected officials in the Cajones region

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and also in the Brain region that they do stuff

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like this. And I have to say it also makes

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me judge South Dakota's negatively, like what's wrong with them?

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Are they stupid? Like I'm actually getting a bad view

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of the entire state of South Dakota based on who

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they send to Congress.

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Speaker 1: We're going to hear from some South Dakota ins in

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the email, I would love to yes, you want to know, saying.

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Speaker 2: Yourself, defend yourself. How do you have so little the

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sense of your own worth that you put people like

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this in power and they don't even fear you at all.

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Speaker 1: Well, the notion that Chris Ray needs to finish his

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term is ridiculous. Donald Trumps is under no constitutional you know,

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duty to let him finish anything. And this idea I

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saw some Democrat senators saying, you know, no, he doesn't

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have a term. He can have a term until ten

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years or whatever, but he does not have to be

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and Trump can fire him to you know, as soon

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as he's the day becomes president.

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Speaker 2: He has a term limit. He cannot serve more than

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ten years. On this point, why can he not serve

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more than ten years? Because we're supposedly all aware of

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how bad it is when the FBI has too much

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power and how j Edgar Hoover used his lifetime appointment

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which essentially became a lifetime appointment, to wreak havoc against

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all of his political foes and to accrue power for himself.

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And yet we're all like, oh, oh, can the FBI

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be bad? I hadn't heard that I have no complaints.

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I'm Mike Grounds of South Dakota.

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Speaker 1: No, No, I just I have a big problem with

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a agency that raids the house of pro lifers and

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throws them in prison, elderly pro lifers. Okay, Like that alone,

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for me is a good enough reason to get new leadership. Right.

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You know, the whole thing they did with these students,

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you know, with the chilling of speech, the chilling of

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a protest against school boards that was concocted by the

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DOJ and carried out with the FBI, that too, would

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be enough for me to fire the guy who was

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in charge. Was there of an investigation into any of

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that within the FBI? Did Did he ever answer for that? No?

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And this has nothing to do with all the stuff

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that they did, you know that was wrong before, with

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the rush of Gate and everything else.

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Speaker 3: The IRS wants to do your tax returns. The Watchdot

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helps unpack the connection between politics and the economy and

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how it affects your wallet. The IRS now has a

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one hundred and fourteen million dollar budget to expand their

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direct file program. Filing with the IRS is like playing

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poker with mirrored sunglasses.

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Speaker 1: Don't show your cards.

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Speaker 3: Whether it's happening in DC or down on Wall Street,

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it's affecting you financially.

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Speaker 1: Be informed.

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Speaker 3: Check out the Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris

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Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 2: There was a report out this week about how they

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spied on all sorts of people involved with the oversight

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of the Department of Justice, and it took years for

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the report to come out. Turns out they were like

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checking the communications of the lawyers representing the committees that

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were overseeing the Department of Justice for their Russia collusion

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hoax and then not about it for years.

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Speaker 1: I laughed because the NBC News, I think the headline

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or the lead said Trump's doj spied on Congress. You

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had to get so deep into that. What's that guy's name,

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delayne In or something. You had to get.

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Speaker 2: Kenlainian confusion ken because he was always taking information from

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Fusion GPS and funneling it through his media outlets. But

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he also, I think, was the guy who got fired

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from the Los Angeles Times or some media outlet something

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bad happened, because he was viewed as just an uncritical

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regurgitator from the CIA, which I think he still is.

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Speaker 1: Basically, Yeah, you have to get way deep into that

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story to know that it had anything to do with Russia,

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you know, Russia, Russia, Russia. So found that humorous. Yeah,

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I mean, you're spying on Congress, You're spying the FBI,

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is you know, I mean the CIA, I guess spied

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on the Senate when Brennan was there. So I guess

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it's just the norm norm in these agencies. Anyway, Hopefully

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there'll be some reform we'll see. So on the.

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Speaker 2: Note of Mike Rounds, I was also and how I

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judge all of South Dakota because of how awful the

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people are. You could say the same for Oklahoma, which

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had James Langford was the only Republican senator stupid enough

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to fall for Mitch McConnell's plan to sabotage Republicans with

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this border bill that let in so many people each day, And.

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Speaker 1: Was he the only one who supported that border bill.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying that Mitch McConnell had this plan. He's like,

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what if we take a dummy in our ranks who's

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not up for reelection for like six years and we

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have them pushed this idea of a border bill, will

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claim that it's a great bill, but really it's going

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to be an amnesty bill. And only James Langford was

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stupid enough to be like, I'll take that assignment. And

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so he did, and he puts out this border bill

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that all the actual people who care about immigrations say

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is horrible, but of course was used by Joe Biden

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Democrats Kamala Harris to make the claim that it was

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Republicans who didn't care about the border. Anyway, James Langford

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is from Oklahoma, so weak, so so bad. The other

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Senator from Oklahoma is this guy, Mark Wayne Mullins. He's

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the sort of funny one who sometimes threatens to beat

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people up because I think he's like a former wrestler

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or something, so in hearings when someone questions his integrity,

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he like stands up in his big you know, tough guy. Anyway,

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this week, he was asked whether Senator Jonie Ernst of

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Iowa should be primaried if she votes no on Pete

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Hegseth as Defense Secretary. We've reported at The Federalist about

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how she's been involved in trying to sabotage that nomination,

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how she was actually thinking for a while that she

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might be able to be replacing Pete haig Seth as

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the nominee, and how she was calling down Tomar a

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Lago and causing all sorts of problems. And you know,

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she's been very notable in not speaking out loud about

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her support for haig Seth, although I think on Monday

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of this week she did finally say she supported him.

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But Mark Waynemullin says that if she votes against Trump's

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cabinet nominees, that she shouldn't be primaried. It's like, why not.

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Why shouldn't someone be primaried for not supporting what her

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voters want. I have no doubt that the people of

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Iowa would like her to support this nominee. And if

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she doesn't want to support him, that's her business. But

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she's going to get primaried over it. And the idea

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that Mark Wayne Mullen be like, oh no, don't don't

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demand that the person that you've sent to the Senate

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in any way support your viewpoints. It just made me think, like, fine,

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we'll primary him too. Everyone getting primary in oklahom because

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Oklahoma is one of those states that is so read

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that they could be putting in really solid people. I

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get annoyed with people when they complain about Susan Collins

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from Maine. Yeah, she's a super lib squish, totally agree,

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and yet also is accurately representing the viewpoint of her state.

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She's definitely the only Republican who could be elected to

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the Senate right now from that state. She's very principled

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in so far as adhering to her own views on

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how to approach different issues, and she's very straightforward about it.

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I don't have complaints about her. But when you're from

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Oklahoma and your people are really concerned about the direction

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of the country, and your voting patterns are more like

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or your approach is more like Susan Collins from Blue Maine, yeah,

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it's a problem.

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Speaker 1: Right. Well, yeah, I generally agree with you on the specifics,

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but I don't agree with you on the idea that

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senators of any senators have any loyalty to the president's picks.

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I mean, if they're making a good concern, well, you

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said that they're not representing their vote. You're saying they're

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not representing their voters. Their voters voted for them. They

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voted for the president separately. It's not one vote for

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all things. So what I'm saying is that if a

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senator had a good argument, a conservative argument against a nominee,

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like I would say against RFK, for instance, that would

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be fine by me. They don't owe Trump any loyalty

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in that way. But you're right in the in the

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in specifics that I think their votes, you know, undermining hexeth.

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I don't know why they're doing it. I assume it's

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because of the stuff he's been accused of. I don't know.

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That's a different story.

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Speaker 2: There's no reason for that if you're loyal, I don't.

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I don't think the fact that Jonie Earnst enthusiastically voted

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for Lloyd Austin means that she's loyal to Joe Biden.

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So why do we call it loyalty if you're thinking

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that you should vote for Pete set as a marked

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improvement over Lloyd Austin. Like, I hate the way we

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talk about these things loyalty. Did O'donald Trump wants loyal people,

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Oh he does. That's so weird, Unlike every other person

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who's ever been president.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just I don't.

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Speaker 2: Tony Ernst voted for Lloyd Austin. She loves Lloyd Austin.

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She voted for Merrick Garland. She loves Merrick Garland.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think her.

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Speaker 2: Voters are reasonable when they say, Okay, you foisted Lloyd

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Austin on us, We're gonna definitely expect that you vote

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for Pete Hegseth.

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Speaker 1: You know, I have no I don't disagree with you

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on that. I actually think voting we archied about it

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this at the time. At some point you're gonna have

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to You're gonna have to give the president a cabinet,

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and you're gonna have to vote for someone you try

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to get the least terrible person involved. I have no

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problem with that, but all My only point is that

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I don't think that someone should be primary just because

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they don't believe, you know, agree with the president on

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everything he's do, you know, doing, or challenge him on something.

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I just don't. But I agree with you on the

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specific with Joy on this specifics. Here with Joony Ernst,

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I think she's wrong here. I think heg Seth is

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completely qualified and until something else, something has proven definitively

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about him, I don't see any reason why they should

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vote against him. So anyway, I don't know. I just

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there's this idea.

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Speaker 2: I'm still hung up on this. Okay, we have a

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Senate that I can't even remember how many people voted

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for Merrick Garland, easily the worst Attorney General of the

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country has ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Right, So you didn't know that when you voted for him,

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You didn't know how bad he would be. You got

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to vote for somebody or not, right, And I'm sure

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not every Republican voted voted for Merrick Garland. I remember

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what the numbers were.

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Speaker 2: He had a really high vote total, which I think

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was probably orchestrated by Mitch McConnell as a way to

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make up for not letting him even get a hearing

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in twenty sixteen when Barack Obama nominated him to be

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the Supreme Court Justice. But objectively speaking, this is a

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guy who has done a lot of to the country

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and they all voted for him, and you can say, well,

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they didn't know at the time. Well, You've got about

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a thousand examples of people getting voted in who did

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damage to the country and you can say, oh, well,

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they didn't know at the time. They didn't know at

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the time. They didn't know at the time the idea

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that now would be the moment when they suddenly developed

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some really principled objections to a nominee and they're really

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concerned about someone's credentials or whatnot. That's just laughable. They

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have they're awful, The Senate is awful. They have allowed

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really bad things to happen to the country for decades,

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and so when they say, oh, I'm very concerned about

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Pete Hegseth possibly changing the military and the operation of

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the Pentagon, it's mockable and laughable because they don't. The

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only thing they care about is they really like the

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way they've been running the country for a long period

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of time. They don't want changes to the way they've

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been running the country and the people who are in charge,

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and it's all kind of transparent. I'm not saying by

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that that people might not have, you know, legitimate objections

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to this person or that person, But when you look

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at it from a distance, it's a joke. They're all

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a joke. They loved Lloyd Austin, they loved Pete Booted Judge,

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they loved Alejandro Mayorcis. I think Jony Ernst might have

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not voted for that one, which only kind of proves

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the point that she voted for the others. And yes,

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the people of Iowa are saying, if you're going to

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vote for those people, you darn well better be voting

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for Donald Trump's picks.

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Speaker 1: Yes. So here's the thing. There's an argument I hate,

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and I see it's prevalent across kind of the Trump right.

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And listen, it's not unique. They did the same thing

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with Biden and Obama and so on. But this idea

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that the Senate, that the politics is you know, that

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partisanship is a single celled organism that must be fed.

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So I in two thousand and one, in two thousand

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and eight, in twenty ten, in twenty twenty four. I

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want the Senate to be to do each job and

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to be independent and whenever it's just capitulating and threatened

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by the President to do things which Democrats do as well.

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That bothers me in specifics. I think you're right here,

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you know, but there are a lot of people who

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are like, this is the will of the people. There's

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no such thing. There's really no such thing as a

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mandate either. You have elected officials in the Senate who

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have a job in Congress, in the presidency, and they

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all are supposed to do their job. That's all I'm saying. Now.

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If you have a specific problem with one senator, I

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get that, But the bottom line is this idea that

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they just have to go along with the president does

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because that's what people voted for. No senators make legislation,

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presidents execute them. That's and you know, and deal with

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foreign policy and that I know it sounds I sound naive,

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and you know it's so j June to say stuff

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like this, but that's what I believe in. And I

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just feel that the Senate needs to take back its

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independence in some way, which probably is that we're going

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to happen. But that's my hope, and that's what I'm

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arguing about here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, I agree in part. I feel very strongly

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that we have these separate branches of government and that

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they need to have some self respect and understand what

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their role is. And further, I as the article one branch.

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I care deeply about Congress protecting its authority and much

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of the problems in the many of the problems in

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the country are a result of Congress completely handing over

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to the executive branch all of their authority. They basically

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just pass these laws that say, we're not going to

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be specific about what we want. We'll let the president

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and the regulatory agencies decide what the law actually is,

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how they're going to enforce it, and we're not going

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to say a word about it. And so when you

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look at the growth of government and the problems with

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that growth, the bureaucratic bureaucratic power, Congress's fault, not the

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executive branch. And I even take this to the point

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that I'm offended on behalf of the Senate that they

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don't respect themselves enough to do their own background checks

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on these nominees. They defer to the FBI and say,

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we'll just say, we'll just go with whatever you say FBI. Mean,

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why wouldn't even if the FBI weren't a horrific agency

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that should not be trusted in any way.

710
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Speaker 1: This is just.

711
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:40,639
Speaker 2: Unbecoming of the Senate to defer all of its authority. Now,

712
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,800
having said all that, I think again, the problem is

713
00:40:44,199 --> 00:40:49,639
nobody believes that the Senate is this August institution that

714
00:40:49,679 --> 00:40:53,840
you claim it is. You might remember, nor that here's

715
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:56,320
I'm not trying to be critical of what you're saying.

716
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,480
What I'm pointing out is when Joe by and became

717
00:41:00,559 --> 00:41:06,280
president in a very narrow election fraught with problems, every

718
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:12,039
single Democrat voted for every single nominee, and for good measure,

719
00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:15,199
so did a bunch of the Republicans. But when Donald

720
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:19,000
Trump wins the nomination in a change election against all

721
00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:23,559
sorts of problems that he's up against, including law fair, widespread,

722
00:41:23,639 --> 00:41:26,920
well coordinated, well funded efforts to remove him from the ballot,

723
00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:30,639
imprison him, bankrupt him. They tried to shoot him twice.

724
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:34,360
They have the propaganda press just lying constantly about who

725
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,320
he is, what he believes, you have, all of these

726
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,800
things he's coming up against, and he still wins the

727
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,760
popular vote, which is just insane. He also secures Republican

728
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,760
victory in the Senate, which is crazy because you got

729
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,440
Mitch McConnell out there saying, just so you know, I'm

730
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:56,360
going to spend post election time fighting Republicans more than Democrats,

731
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,760
and still voters give them majority control of the Senate.

732
00:42:01,199 --> 00:42:03,960
And so the voters are saying, I didn't do all

733
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,199
this so that you would, you know, vote for Lloyd

734
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,480
Austin and not Pete Hegseeth. You know what I mean, Like,

735
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:13,960
there's a bigger picture here that affects why people are

736
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:19,400
so frustrated with this sort of impotent, cowardly thinking. They're

737
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:24,199
so cute Republican senator who loves Merrick Garland and loves

738
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,960
Lloyd Austin but doesn't love the Trump nominees, that's all.

739
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it's cowardly to stand up against your party,

740
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,519
even if you disagree with that person. But more than that, Listen,

741
00:42:33,639 --> 00:42:37,519
Garland was terrible. I think he should have been impeached. Hero.

742
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:40,079
Speaker 2: You know, he's just a wait, when hasn't one stood

743
00:42:40,119 --> 00:42:41,000
up against their party?

744
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm just saying if some Republican doesn't want to

745
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,719
go along with Trump and most senators they're not.

746
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: Oh you're you're saying like that's their party, and the

747
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,199
party isn't the uni party establishment that runs deep.

748
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,079
Speaker 1: No, I don't think there's a uniparty, you know, I

749
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:58,480
don't think there's a uniparty. Yeah, I mean I bet

750
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,320
you if I looked at Jony Ernst, I bet she

751
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,519
votes with Republicans, I mean, you know, and against democratic initiatives. Right,

752
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:06,519
But does she ninety percent of the time, So I

753
00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:06,800
think the.

754
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: Question would be does she fight Mitch McConnell like that

755
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,480
takes courage within the Senate.

756
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:13,639
Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about. Mitch McConnell is elected,

757
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:17,360
probably in huge landslides in Kentucky, I don't remember exactly,

758
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:20,960
and you know then senators voted to make him leader.

759
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,119
Now you say he probably uses his power and ways

760
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:25,960
to compel them to do that, or course them to

761
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:26,199
do that.

762
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,119
Speaker 2: I would say courage is voting against Mitch McConnell. That's

763
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:32,000
what I would say. Courage is voting because think about

764
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,360
what Mitch McConnell does. If you vote against him, he says, Okay,

765
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,679
that's fine, you can vote against me, just so you know,

766
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:40,840
I'm going to have my army of supporters try to

767
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,639
destroy you every minute from here on out. Is which

768
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:45,679
is again fine, use of his power, that's what he

769
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:48,079
wants to do, But it takes courage to fight that,

770
00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:50,480
and a lot of Republicans don't have that courage.

771
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,519
Speaker 1: Is Mitch McConnell against Hexseth?

772
00:43:54,159 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 2: What do you think?

773
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,039
Speaker 1: Has he come out again? I'm asking you a serious question.

774
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,119
Speaker 2: Has he come out and said everybody obviously should vote

775
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:01,719
for this person.

776
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

777
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:07,079
Speaker 2: No, No, in fact, I think he's quite notably not

778
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,320
said a word. I mean, it's so clownish, it's so

779
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,000
it's like, it's so clamish that someone as smart as

780
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:17,519
you doesn't see what's going on to even if he

781
00:44:17,679 --> 00:44:20,760
ends up, even if the plan for Mitch McConnell and

782
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,119
his cronies is to just have four people vote against

783
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:26,920
every nominee, but different people vote against different nominees, and

784
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,199
he's always voting for him. Like, we're not stupid, we

785
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,480
know what's going on. We know that Mitch McConnell and

786
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:37,239
his party are opposed because they say they're opposed, and

787
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,239
they've got a track record of opposing, and they're very

788
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:45,440
petty and they're very butt hurt. Sorry for them, that's

789
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,880
the academic term for it. And so like we don't

790
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,960
need to pretend we don't know these things. We know

791
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:50,599
these things.

792
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:53,079
Speaker 1: I'm trying to clarify my argument here. If you have

793
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:56,199
problems with what Mitch McConnell does, that's fine, But Mitch

794
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,960
McConnell or anyone of his crony is in the Senate

795
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,719
aren't in no responsibility to help Trump if they don't

796
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,840
like what Trump is doing. That's all I'm saying. And

797
00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:08,920
you know, this idea that they're all in it together

798
00:45:09,039 --> 00:45:10,840
all the time I think is wrong. But I just

799
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,719
quickly want to say something about Garland. Mary Garland was

800
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,320
the best case scenario for Republicans, wasn't he before? You know,

801
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,480
all he did. He seemed like a pretty squishy you know.

802
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,599
I mean, he had done nothing to let us know

803
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:28,480
that he would abuse the Constitution in the way he did,

804
00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:30,239
and maybe we should have seen it. I'm not saying that,

805
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,639
but I'm saying that Republicans vote for someone like that.

806
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,400
It's the best case scenario they're voting for. It could

807
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,559
have been a lot worse, right.

808
00:45:36,519 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: Again, Democrats. Okay, So a Republican nominates mother Teresa, and

809
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,119
everyone's like, this is the worst pick ever. What an

810
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:48,360
immoral person. She slept around as a child. You know,

811
00:45:48,599 --> 00:45:52,000
they do that when they nominate Mery Garland. Everyone's like, well,

812
00:45:52,039 --> 00:45:54,639
he's a jolly good fellow. I can't think of anything

813
00:45:54,679 --> 00:45:58,559
to say against this person. He's just a fine chap. Indeed,

814
00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:01,519
I mean, how many decades do we have to go

815
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:04,519
through the game where there's one standard for Democrats, which

816
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,639
is like, unless they're literally murdering someone at the moment,

817
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:10,400
they're the best person ever. And then for Republicans they're

818
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,760
always I mean, oh, we're very concerned about this, and

819
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,119
we're very concerned about that. Those two standards that are

820
00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:20,360
applied by the regime, the media, the people in the Senate.

821
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,519
It's just untenable and people are sick of it. So, yes,

822
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,679
could Merrick Garland have been well, Merrick Garland couldn't have

823
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,039
been worse as a leader. He really is the worst thing,

824
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:32,320
I agree, But did they know that? Maybe not? But

825
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,599
like I don't care.

826
00:46:35,639 --> 00:46:37,519
Speaker 1: All right, So you just want Republicans to vote against

827
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:41,599
every cabinet nomination of a Democratic president and to vote

828
00:46:41,679 --> 00:46:46,119
for every cabinet nominee of a Republican president as long

829
00:46:46,159 --> 00:46:48,199
as it's Donald Trump, because if there was some Mitt

830
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,679
Romney there, I'm sure there would be plenty of senators

831
00:46:50,679 --> 00:46:54,280
wh would be upset if he wasn't putting conservatives into No.

832
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll note that I never uttered what you've just

833
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:03,000
caricatured my argument. Okay, what I do want what I do,

834
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:06,440
And I in fact affirmed that I want a strong Senate,

835
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:12,360
which we don't have. But this approach of senators of

836
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:18,159
being completely deferential to the Washington DC Party and not

837
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,639
deferential to any other party, it's just it's nobody's fooled

838
00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:25,400
by it anymore. We all see what's going on. Oh wait, sorry,

839
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:26,920
there's one other thing I wanted to say really quick.

840
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,800
I am sick to death of people claiming that their

841
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,599
opposition is something that it's not. Now, you say, the

842
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:37,760
Senate is its own they're their own people, and they

843
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,559
should agreed. They should say publicly why they opposed Pete Hegseth,

844
00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:46,039
And it's not because he's divorced or drank when he

845
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,599
was an infantryman. Okay, I think we can agree with

846
00:47:48,639 --> 00:47:53,119
that because the Senate does not care about adultery, divorce,

847
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,480
or drinking. And I can say that with some confidence

848
00:47:56,559 --> 00:48:01,320
having seen these people in their you know out So

849
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,800
when they claim, oh, or is just very concerned about

850
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,760
adultery or divorce or drinking, whether they do it about

851
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,800
Kavanaugh or hag Seth, it's a lie. What their actual

852
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,440
opposition to these people is is always that they're going

853
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,760
to change the status quo, or that they embrace policies

854
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,320
that the person doesn't actually support. So the concern about

855
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,480
Pete hag Seth is that he might change the way

856
00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:28,400
the Pentagon is being run. That's the concern, and they

857
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,840
should just be honest about it. They should say, I

858
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,079
love women in combat, and I love the draft for women,

859
00:48:34,199 --> 00:48:37,719
and I love DEI initiatives. And that's why I, Joni Ernst,

860
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,760
voted for Lloyd Austin because I love the way he's

861
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,000
doing things. And it's why I'm sabotaging Pete hag Seth

862
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,159
because he has said he opposes some of these things.

863
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,239
And I'm worried how am I going to get my

864
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:54,159
funding from my military industrial complex people if I let

865
00:48:54,159 --> 00:48:56,280
someone like this come in and shake things up. Just

866
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,440
be honest about it, that's all I ask.

867
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: Well, be honesty, and they should come out and say

868
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,280
why they're against these people. If they are, I can't

869
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,760
bore into their souls. But again, I just want to

870
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:11,440
quickly say, the public seems to have this idea that

871
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,239
the Senate is beholden to the president. You know what

872
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,760
that leads to. That leads to giving away your war

873
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,320
you know, your war power authority. That means letting them spy,

874
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,320
That means giving them you know executive powers they shouldn't have,

875
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,960
emergency powers they shouldn't have, and that concerns me. Listen,

876
00:49:28,199 --> 00:49:31,960
Donald Trump asked Congress the Senate in his first term

877
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,679
to get rid of the filibuster. At one point, people

878
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,440
forget that now, Mitch McConnell says, no, I want that

879
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,480
to continue. I'm not saying they should oppose him just

880
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:40,880
reflexibly because he's Donald Trump. But if he does things

881
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,239
they don't like, they should stand up for their institution.

882
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,079
That's my argument. It's I actually agree with you on

883
00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:51,880
Hexseth specifically. I don't thin there's any reason to oppose him.

884
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,880
Presidents should get their cabinets in general, unless there's some

885
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,320
real reason you know that that shouldn't be so. And

886
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,719
that's it, and that's all you know. That's all I

887
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,320
have to say. Say sounds idealistic and stupid. I feel

888
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:06,039
like I'm on preaching, but that's how government's supposed to work.

889
00:50:06,119 --> 00:50:09,440
And these agencies that are out of control, unconstitutional, that

890
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,920
don't govern us but rule us. They exist because the

891
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,239
Senate and Congress have given up their control and allowed

892
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,320
the executive branch to keep growing and doing whatever it wants.

893
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,119
And that's a problem, right. I mean, that's one of

894
00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:23,719
the major problems in American life I think as far

895
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,119
as government goes. Anyway, Thank you, thank you for coming

896
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:31,840
to my Ted talk. Do you want to do culture?

897
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:36,079
Speaker 2: Sure? I watched that yap Rock.

898
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: Oh did you like it? Oh? My gosh, I got

899
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,199
some blowback on that, So I.

900
00:50:41,079 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: Did like it. I thought it was pretty good, except

901
00:50:43,079 --> 00:50:48,280
that one of the people interviewed in it used a

902
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:55,360
derogatory term for people, the sword oh which questlove did this?

903
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,320
And it just I'm shocked when people, to me, it's

904
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,719
like hearing a racist insult on This is like on

905
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:08,000
an HBO documentary and he called people cis. So I

906
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,960
thought that was awful and someone should talk to him

907
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:16,719
about not using derogatory terms to describe humans. Sorry, that's

908
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,960
a little sidebar. I liked the documentary. I thought it

909
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,840
was pretty good. I liked the way it dealt with

910
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:27,159
how yacht rock didn't have a name until the Internet

911
00:51:27,159 --> 00:51:34,320
produced that comedy series, and even showing what how that

912
00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:37,880
comedy series gave people a way to think with new

913
00:51:39,159 --> 00:51:41,199
I think, in a new way about what they liked

914
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,280
about that era of music. I loved getting into how

915
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,960
hip hop samples from that soul. Why you know, it

916
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,360
has these great basslines, and so I liked it all.

917
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,639
And then I did also find it funny how Donald

918
00:51:54,639 --> 00:51:59,800
Fagan cussed out the documentary filmmaker for wanting to talk

919
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:00,719
to about.

920
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: It, and I read an interview about that. Actually that

921
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:10,119
did happen, but Donald Fagan's representative called back immediately and

922
00:52:10,199 --> 00:52:12,880
let them use all the music and everything. So you

923
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,480
know what I mean. I will just quickly want to say,

924
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:20,559
in the last episode, I confused Donald Fagan and Dan Folgelberg.

925
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: Clearly, and I don't understand that because.

926
00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about Steely Dan or Dan Folgelberg.

927
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,159
I'm not a fan of that kind of music. However,

928
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,800
not just not only did I confuse them, and you

929
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,079
were so perplexed when I was talking about this, but

930
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,440
I actually in the end, when I thought I had

931
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,079
gotten it all straight, I still confused. It. It is

932
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:43,599
again Donald Fagan, who is in Steely Dan Dan Folgelberg.

933
00:52:43,639 --> 00:52:45,000
I don't know what he did or does.

934
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:47,519
Speaker 2: Just wanted to wait, Can I tell you a story

935
00:52:47,519 --> 00:52:50,320
really quickly that you know, I think we've said this,

936
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,079
I've said this a thousand times that one of my

937
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:56,079
favorite albums is Donald Fagan's The Nightfly. And I still

938
00:52:56,159 --> 00:53:02,039
remember being a very young girl in by Celia, California,

939
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,440
sitting in the car while my parents were shopping at

940
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,079
a garden store or something, and one of the songs

941
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:10,440
from The Nightfly came on and I loved it so

942
00:53:10,639 --> 00:53:13,239
much that I waited to find out what the name

943
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,559
of the song was. And I mean, I was young,

944
00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:19,320
and so if I could only take ten albums, you know,

945
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,199
that's definitely one of my albums. I just loved the

946
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:26,519
whole concept behind it and the quality. And I always

947
00:53:26,519 --> 00:53:30,840
wanted Mark to like Donald Fagan too, and he hated

948
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:33,079
Steely Dan and Donald Fagan.

949
00:53:33,559 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: Is this going to end with him liking these albums?

950
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,440
Because it's going to upset me?

951
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,039
Speaker 2: And then I thought if he just listened to Donald

952
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:43,119
Fagan's The Nightfly, that he would have to fall in

953
00:53:43,159 --> 00:53:47,599
love with it. So I never have been able to

954
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:49,480
make him do anything, so I don't know why I

955
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:52,239
thought this would work, but I begged and pleaded with

956
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,519
him to just sit there and listen to the whole album,

957
00:53:54,599 --> 00:53:57,320
and he was angry the whole time, and he finished

958
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:02,599
and he said, yep, still hate it. And later all

959
00:54:02,639 --> 00:54:06,559
of his fancy pants music. Friends were talking about how

960
00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:11,400
brilliant Steely Dan, this album in Asian and all this, Oh,

961
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,800
and just listen to this production, and how great Donald

962
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,079
Fagan is. And then he's then only then with people

963
00:54:19,119 --> 00:54:22,400
that he actually respects, not his wife. He gives a

964
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,599
new listen and he decided that, in fact, he does

965
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,039
kind of like Steely Dan ended up Fagan.

966
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,079
Speaker 1: So you know, I grew up like a punk rocket,

967
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:33,679
an indie kid. So to me, Steely Dan was the

968
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,239
polar opposite of everything I respected in music. You know,

969
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,840
it was too perfect to produce, too mellow and all

970
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,159
of that. I did. I try to give it a

971
00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:44,599
listen this week. I went in and you know, it's

972
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:46,840
it's not as terrible as I thought. I'm being a

973
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,639
more open minded as I grow older, and obviously, as

974
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:51,559
you know, I'm very into music and all that. So

975
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:53,400
it wasn't as bad as I thought, but I still

976
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,519
didn't really like it. It was just too perfect for

977
00:54:55,559 --> 00:54:56,920
me in a lot of ways.

978
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see that, Yeah, but therefore kind of

979
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:02,440
snag you Yep, Yeah it doesn't.

980
00:55:02,519 --> 00:55:06,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like a little grit in my music, i'd say,

981
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:07,639
or something. I don't know.

982
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,519
Speaker 2: That's the other thing I liked about this yacht rock

983
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:13,159
documentary was how it got into how the entire Toto

984
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,440
band was basically the wrecking crew of the LA music

985
00:55:16,519 --> 00:55:19,320
scene and just I mean, super impressive guys, and I

986
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,360
just loved them. Also, didn't you kind of get the

987
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,679
feeling that they had the best lives and that they

988
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:29,519
had modest success but more like continuous work as songwriters

989
00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:33,400
and session musicians, and that they probably just had really normal,

990
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,119
good lives.

991
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,199
Speaker 1: No, yeah, one hundred percent. I was thinking about that.

992
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:38,840
I don't just a quick I don't know if they

993
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,840
mentioned this, but Toto did the soundtrack for the original

994
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,480
Dune movie, which came out from Lynch. I would say

995
00:55:46,599 --> 00:55:49,079
that what really surprised me if we were still talking

996
00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:51,400
about this doc. But what really I liked about it

997
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,360
was how down to earth most of them seemed. I'm

998
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,960
talking about Christopher Cross just seemed like a really normal dude,

999
00:55:57,039 --> 00:55:59,440
you know, And Michael McDonald seemed he was just making

1000
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,320
fun of him and making you know, and it's just

1001
00:56:03,079 --> 00:56:05,199
not taking himself as seriously as a lot of you know,

1002
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,400
musicians do, as well as those Toto guys, which who

1003
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,519
are very normal. I couldn't believe how one of them

1004
00:56:11,559 --> 00:56:14,000
looked now. He looks like a professor or something. He didn't,

1005
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:18,639
you know, have the afro anymore. I actually like Toto

1006
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,800
better I think than Steely Dan, though I'm not you know,

1007
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,000
a huture fan of any of that.

1008
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: But if I can just also add on to that,

1009
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,360
another thing I liked about the documentary was how it

1010
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:35,199
talked about how MTV had dramatically changed the music environment

1011
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,079
and by making it a more visual thing. I in

1012
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:41,159
my mind, I thought it's always been visual people like

1013
00:56:41,639 --> 00:56:45,039
Elvis or the peoples, like there was such a visual

1014
00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:48,639
component to it that when I'd heard people talking about

1015
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,480
Video Killed the Radio Star, I just didn't really buy

1016
00:56:51,519 --> 00:56:56,599
into it. But you completely see how weird it is

1017
00:56:56,639 --> 00:57:02,599
to have yacht rock style musicians in an MTV environment

1018
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,639
and how they just had no shot at all. Basically

1019
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,760
it made me think less of Michael Jackson in a

1020
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:15,840
weird way. The blatant commerciality of those albums, which totally

1021
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,880
worked on me. I mean that was again, I'm like

1022
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:19,760
in fourth.

1023
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: Grade and Toto played on Thriller basically, right or do

1024
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,280
I have that wrong? I think a bunch of them.

1025
00:57:24,159 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: Did, absolutely, But the way. They were just thinking, we're

1026
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,440
going to get on every single radio station this way.

1027
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,199
It's one of the complaints people have about Beyonce right now.

1028
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,920
Country music is one of the only genres that is growing,

1029
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:41,679
and so she just knew that and put out a

1030
00:57:41,679 --> 00:57:45,079
country album, not because she's country and not because she

1031
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:46,880
could really pull it off, but because she was just

1032
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:51,679
trying to get that market share. And there is a

1033
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,599
lack of authenticy. You know. Obviously we all tried to

1034
00:57:54,719 --> 00:57:59,039
be marketable when we're in the creative environments, but you

1035
00:57:59,079 --> 00:58:01,519
can take it too far, not be true to yourself,

1036
00:58:01,559 --> 00:58:02,159
as they say.

1037
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was a good doc. I love those

1038
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,800
rock docs that HBO makes. I watched I rewatch The

1039
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,320
Beg's doc after that because I like suggested it. Yeah,

1040
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,519
and it's just is that it.

1041
00:58:15,079 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 3: Yep.

1042
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: I watched a show called Silo. Have you heard of this?

1043
00:58:21,199 --> 00:58:26,039
It's a it's a science fiction show on Apple with

1044
00:58:26,159 --> 00:58:30,599
Rebecca Ferguson and Tim Robbins is in it. And it's

1045
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,119
just the first episode really drew me in and then

1046
00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:36,480
it's kind of lost some momentum. But anyway, I would

1047
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,559
if you're into science fiction. Oh and I watched the

1048
00:58:39,639 --> 00:58:42,880
show you were watching with Ted Danson man on the inside.

1049
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: What'd you think? So?

1050
00:58:45,719 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: I didn't like how it started, but then I thought

1051
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:53,079
it got really sentimental and kind of excellent by the end.

1052
00:58:53,159 --> 00:58:55,719
Did you watch all the thing? Yeah, yeah, just about

1053
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:01,000
aging and memory and and how of time we discard

1054
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,039
older people in a way we shouldn't, you know. And

1055
00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:05,920
I thought his relationship with the baseball fan guy, the

1056
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:09,960
guy was just really sweet and very well done. So

1057
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,280
to me, you know, it starts off as supposedly this mystery,

1058
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,400
but it ends something much more interesting, don't you think,

1059
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,159
I mean, the mystery you don't even care by episode four?

1060
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,760
And I like Ted Danson. I can't help. But you know,

1061
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,920
he's been around my whole life, and he's kind of

1062
00:59:24,239 --> 00:59:26,199
seventy six. He looks great, don't you think?

1063
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,719
Speaker 2: Does he looks great? I have seen every episode of Cheers.

1064
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:30,760
I just have.

1065
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:31,199
Speaker 1: Let Yeah.

1066
00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:33,199
Speaker 2: I liked him as a sitcom person for a very

1067
00:59:33,199 --> 00:59:33,679
long time.

1068
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:39,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was a good one. And then, you know,

1069
00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:43,440
I just watched this subdocumentary on Netflix which was called

1070
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,480
Get Gotti, and it was just about the mobster John

1071
00:59:46,519 --> 00:59:49,199
Gotti and how they got him. And watch it, you know, again,

1072
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,400
I grew up with this stuff around. I didn't really

1073
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,800
pay that much attention, but I was taken aback by

1074
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,079
how stupid he it really was, you know, he was

1075
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,679
just quickly he was on trial because they had bugged

1076
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,159
one of his social clubs and he went home every

1077
01:00:03,199 --> 01:00:05,920
day to a different social club and just talked about

1078
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,440
all the murders he committed and everything. And they had

1079
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,360
that bug too. So it seemed to me that the

1080
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,199
mob weren't as bright as we, you know, as we

1081
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,880
you know, sort of idealize and romanticize that life. But

1082
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,559
they were pretty dumb in general. But it was interesting.

1083
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,239
It was interesting to, you know, to honestly, I was

1084
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,800
really interested in RICO and how RICO works, because in

1085
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:31,400
my mind, like teachers' unions should be tried for racketeering

1086
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,480
because they do the same exact thing the mob does,

1087
01:00:33,519 --> 01:00:36,719
and other sort of agencies of government and NGOs they

1088
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,119
all act like the mob does in a way. So anyway,

1089
01:00:39,159 --> 01:00:40,199
I just found that interesting.

1090
01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:42,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should put you in it, DOJ.

1091
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: That would be crazy, do you see. I don't think

1092
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,480
I could. I don't think I could do it. I

1093
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,679
don't think I have the makeup for it. I can

1094
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,760
never like fire someone even if they were a bad person.

1095
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,880
We need people who can fire others, right, I don't

1096
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,559
want that kind of interaction with people. All right, Well

1097
01:01:01,559 --> 01:01:06,000
that's it. Holly's quickly approaching. I hope you're ready.

1098
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,679
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm working on a book. I'm doing nothing

1099
01:01:09,679 --> 01:01:13,840
to prepare and just gonna beg my family for forgiveness later.

1100
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,079
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we're not going to take a break.

1101
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:20,199
We'll be back next week. Until then, be lovers of

1102
01:01:20,199 --> 01:01:42,239
freedom and anxious for the fray.