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Speaker 2: Big shout out to former colleagues and new people at
Speaker 2: Fox eleven.
Speaker 3: You guys have done a great job.
Speaker 2: But to all the local news reporters, all of them
Speaker 2: at all of the different stations, amazing. And we all
Speaker 2: are flipping from station to station looking for sometimes neighborhood
Speaker 2: specific information.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just.
Speaker 2: Literally when somebody goes to some shot, you're looking for
Speaker 2: another shot.
Speaker 3: I mean, we all become sort of directors in our homes.
Speaker 4: You know. Of course, you know people think that we're
Speaker 4: competitors with various stations. We're all connected. We're in the
Speaker 4: same boat. So what I'm trying to say is I
Speaker 4: follow a lot of the reporters that you see on
Speaker 4: the other stations and all incredible work that we're doing
Speaker 4: out there, and we as in them on the front lines.
Speaker 4: They're in the actual firefight. Bring those incredible pictures. And
Speaker 4: thank goodness though that all seems to be behind us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 5: Knock on Woo, Marla, knock on wood well.
Speaker 2: And again, and it was a I don't feel like
Speaker 2: it was like a seventy two hour run where all
Speaker 2: of you guys are out there.
Speaker 5: For NonStop covering and just terrific work.
Speaker 4: You know, we don't take that responsibility lightly of informing
Speaker 4: the public because we're hoping that we're saving lives and
Speaker 4: saving your home and getting you the vittle information.
Speaker 2: It's where you get the best of local news, you know.
Speaker 2: I think there can be you know, in some when
Speaker 2: stuff mellows out, it can be kind of if it bleeds,
Speaker 2: it leads kind of stuff, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But I think when this sort of thing happens, you
Speaker 2: need local news desperately, and you need a local news organization.
Speaker 2: We're lucky in Los Angeles because it's still staff with
Speaker 2: people and enough people to get out there and give
Speaker 2: information that's critical to the public.
Speaker 3: A lot of communities don't have that.
Speaker 2: But anyway, congratulations on work well done, and sadly it's
Speaker 2: not over. So now the good news is we had
Speaker 2: a fairly yes and.
Speaker 5: Last twenty four hours.
Speaker 4: In fact, so we heard at the eight am press
Speaker 4: briefing that from CalFire that there was little to no
Speaker 4: new growth in both the Palisades and the Eton fires,
Speaker 4: but there's always a butt. LAFD fire chief christ and
Speaker 4: Crowley said they had their surveillance, aerial surveillance going on
Speaker 4: and infrared technology picked up quite a few hotspots and
Speaker 4: so those although you can't see the flames from your
Speaker 4: vantage point wherever you are, there are hotspots out there.
Speaker 4: And of course we know listening to Amy that those
Speaker 4: red flag warnings remained in effect until three or six
Speaker 4: o'clock this afternoon, depending on where you live. So they
Speaker 4: are closely monitoring the hotspots. But overall, no new fire
Speaker 4: growth is great, great, great news.
Speaker 2: I also think that it's worth noting because I know
Speaker 2: there's some people out there who still.
Speaker 3: Don't have power.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean there's a bunch of power shutdowns
Speaker 2: and it's been a while.
Speaker 3: I mean it's days. Some customers haven't had power.
Speaker 2: So tens of thousands of Southern California ED customers, because
Speaker 2: of the red flag conditions, are likely to endure more shutoffs. Again,
Speaker 2: these are to prevent new wildfires, and the connection between
Speaker 2: Southern California ED and the Altadena fire is demonstrable. I
Speaker 2: mean it feels as though there already have been four
Speaker 2: lawsuits and there could be a class action case emerging there.
Speaker 2: But new video from overnight is apparently showing that lights
Speaker 2: are out at gas stations and shopping centers in the
Speaker 2: San Bernardino Mountains, and the utility power outage map showing
Speaker 2: that Crestline and Lake Arrowhead is or are among the
Speaker 2: areas without power this morning. So tens of thousands of
Speaker 2: Southern California ED customers no power because of these dangerous
Speaker 2: red flag conditions. More shut offs could be coming to
Speaker 2: prevent any new wildfires. That's just worth noting along the way, and.
Speaker 4: Anytime you see a little spark r upts, you think
Speaker 4: of the world. So we were on the air last
Speaker 4: night and there was another wild fire that broke out
Speaker 4: in the Pacoima area area right along the Handsome Dam
Speaker 4: and it was right next to an apartment complex with
Speaker 4: the car port right there, literally right next to it.
Speaker 4: In La County Fire along with Angelo's National Force. They
Speaker 4: got there and they were able to put it out
Speaker 4: within thirty minutes. It was incredible. They aggressively attacked it.
Speaker 4: But it's one of those things though now when you
Speaker 4: report we'd normally report wildfires, but now you're just on
Speaker 4: edge because is this the next big one, sure.
Speaker 2: And structure fires fall into the same category normally. Go well,
Speaker 2: you know the structure fire, you know it's a.
Speaker 3: Palette factory or something.
Speaker 2: You know, you idea they had caught fire under this
Speaker 2: freeway over and overpass. It's sort of like sadly urban life,
Speaker 2: you know, and yet now it takes on an entirely
Speaker 2: different significance.
Speaker 3: All of those things.
Speaker 4: Well, we're just glad that so far, as mentioned, last
Speaker 4: twenty four hours have been really relatively calm, but there
Speaker 4: are still the bad players out there. Ellie County Sheriff
Speaker 4: Robert Luna he announced today that forty four people total,
Speaker 4: just in his jurisdiction have been arrested for things like looting, burglary,
Speaker 4: curfew violations, weapons possessions. And there was a second person
Speaker 4: in the last twenty four hours, mark arrested for impersonating
Speaker 4: a firefighter.
Speaker 5: That's just insane, insane, insane.
Speaker 2: I mean again, I'm hoping for prompt and severe prosecutions
Speaker 2: and punishments.
Speaker 4: Well, Hawkman was part of the ad impressor and he
Speaker 4: said absolutely, you know, I mean, the other day he
Speaker 4: announced ten people charges against them, nine for looting, one
Speaker 4: for arson. That arson case was not directly linked to
Speaker 4: these recent wildfires.
Speaker 5: Nonetheless, I think the least.
Speaker 4: Amount of jail time that these people are looking at
Speaker 4: is six years.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So Hawkman's serious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what we need. We need follow through
Speaker 3: on this stuff.
Speaker 2: It's crazy, the looting, the impastination of firefighters so you
Speaker 2: can then go in and loot, and of course arson
Speaker 2: and I get it some of the arson cases because
Speaker 2: in that press conference they were talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: some of the specifics around these arsen cases and they
Speaker 2: sound like you know, fed up street people, you know.
Speaker 2: But sorry, there is no rationale, no excuse, no framing
Speaker 2: that gives me any sympathy for people setting fires.
Speaker 5: Oh stop, absolutely not.
Speaker 4: And you know they've all been sort of connected on this,
Speaker 4: which is good to see the chief of fire, the
Speaker 4: chief of police, the chief of the sheriff's department, and
Speaker 4: then Hawkman out there saying we're done. You know, you
Speaker 4: you get caught, We're going to throw the book at you.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 2: Great throwing the book is something that we have to
Speaker 2: get a lot better at.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't done that of late in recent years,
Speaker 4: but I think the tides changing.
Speaker 2: It's been a week after the Palisades fire started, and
Speaker 2: the cleanup along PCH has started. Federal and state teams
Speaker 2: are getting rid of hazardous waste and debris from houses
Speaker 2: businesses that were taken out by the fires. They had
Speaker 2: four dumpsters filled with debris by midday yesterday. They've established
Speaker 2: a buffer zone along the freeway, so they've created two
Speaker 2: lanes of workable space for crews to park and to
Speaker 2: clear debris. And they're dumpsters all along those areas of PCH.
Speaker 2: And of course we've talked about the We've talked about
Speaker 2: the toxins and in the air. Yeah, it's a really
Speaker 2: unhealthy period, you know, during the fires and even post fire.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm glad you wrought that up because if
Speaker 4: you watch local forecasts right and they have their air
Speaker 4: quality censors up, and you did this, this is what
Speaker 4: you used to do, right. Sure, well, it's deceiving because
Speaker 4: the air quality sensors linked to the National Weather Service.
Speaker 5: If you look in our area right now, it says good,
Speaker 5: which is very deceiving. But we had a doctor on
Speaker 5: last night.
Speaker 4: He's a medical contributor who works for US, doctor Michael Daniel.
Speaker 4: He said that those sensors don't pick up all of
Speaker 4: the toxins. The only monitor five, which aren't even necessarily
Speaker 4: the worst.
Speaker 2: They check for particulate matter I think in the main
Speaker 2: and so you don't see a lot of those toxins
Speaker 2: played out with the ultimate number that they give you.
Speaker 2: They'll give you like a you know, something in the
Speaker 2: fifties is usually acceptable type thing. And yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: So much gets into the outfield just because the technology
Speaker 2: is not designed to be tuned to some of these toxins,
Speaker 2: I mean, metals and other just stuff that gets into
Speaker 2: your lungs, deep into your lungs.
Speaker 3: I could really do some damage.
Speaker 5: Well that's something to keep in mind. So there are.
Speaker 3: Free Christmas everybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, well, happy New Year already. We're on day fifteen.
Speaker 2: You know, at some point today I want to double
Speaker 2: back and talk about the cause of the Palisades fire,
Speaker 2: because it was addressed at the press conference, I believe
Speaker 2: a bit, but they just there. Yeah, No, let's do it,
Speaker 2: because essentially there was yesterday I was talking about it
Speaker 2: a bit, and today I've got some key follow up
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 3: So we'll get to it.
Speaker 4: Okay, joining us now is somebody I'm looking forward to
Speaker 4: talking to. I'm sorry that it's under these circumstances. I
Speaker 4: used to work with her at Fox eleven when she
Speaker 4: was part of the team there, she says, gone on
Speaker 4: and she's become an LA based correspondent for ABC News Network.
Speaker 4: Zorene Shaw is on the line now. Zorene, thank you
Speaker 4: so much for being with us today.
Speaker 1: Of course, lad with you.
Speaker 2: I saw the Instagram post from Zorine and it was moving.
Speaker 2: It was really And that's really the reason that we
Speaker 2: brought Zorine on into the mix today because her story
Speaker 2: is I think, an extraordinary one, but it's also one
Speaker 2: that is relatable. Sadly, I've heard others similar and so
Speaker 2: maybe we can begin to lay that.
Speaker 3: Out absolutely really quite moving.
Speaker 4: Yes, So, Zorene and her husband had spent one night
Speaker 4: in their brand new home in Malibu and then it
Speaker 4: burned down. Literally, Zorene, you closed on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1: Crazy, It's crazy, we did. And this was our dream house.
Speaker 1: Rechi had spent six years, you know, every month, sometimes
Speaker 1: every weekend driving up to Malibu to look for, you know,
Speaker 1: our dream house, and he found it. We were so
Speaker 1: excited and I was so proud, you know, I stayed
Speaker 1: and saved and we don't make a gazillion dollars that
Speaker 1: this job. We don't and and I, you know, my
Speaker 1: parents had never owned a home. I saved and I
Speaker 1: was so excited and proud to have twenty percent of
Speaker 1: down payment. And we put it in. We got it,
Speaker 1: and we we enjoyed a night there. We had a
Speaker 1: few other hours, and then it was gone. And this
Speaker 1: home was a perfect home. I can't say that enough.
Speaker 1: Everyone keeps saying, oh, you'll build that better, Oh you'll
Speaker 1: build a better home, You'll build your dream home. But
Speaker 1: this was our dream home. I mean it was home
Speaker 1: where you you know, deer would come up to the window.
Speaker 1: Like we had an alvocado and a peach and a
Speaker 1: green tree. We had just this beautiful ocean view. This
Speaker 1: is a home we wanted to retire in. We wanted
Speaker 1: to bring our friends over. We just loved it and
Speaker 1: we were excited. And look, I have to say, I
Speaker 1: have to say that we just closed on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people out there who lost
Speaker 1: their homes, who have lost far more. They have lost
Speaker 1: a lifetime of belongings, and they have lost a lifetime
Speaker 1: of memories. We are one of the lucky ones, and
Speaker 1: we are devastated for them. We have lost. We have
Speaker 1: three friends who lost their homes in the Albany in
Speaker 1: the fire. They lost everything, man like except for their
Speaker 1: travel bags and then like you know, the bat clothes
Speaker 1: on their back. They have nothing. And so we we
Speaker 1: know how lucky we are in this moment. But we
Speaker 1: lost the dream. That's what we lost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously you were pretty into perspective there,
Speaker 4: and everyone has their own story. Nonetheless, it doesn't take
Speaker 4: away or diminish you know what you and your husband
Speaker 4: are going through. Just to think that the one night,
Speaker 4: how how are you two doing? What's recovery look like?
Speaker 4: Are you planning to rebuild there?
Speaker 1: Absolutely we are, but we we you know, Marlon. I'm
Speaker 1: also dealing with I certied as a reporter because you
Speaker 1: and I we've covered fires for so long. My god,
Speaker 1: you know, I've said on so many since near so
Speaker 1: many people burned down homes. I've said on so much
Speaker 1: turned lands. I mean, as a reporter in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: you cover these over and over and over again. While
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with it with it be my home, and
Speaker 1: I'm learning so much. I'm learning, you know, first of
Speaker 1: all the thing that I thought would be the biggest
Speaker 1: struggle is not the biggest struggle. I thought that. I look,
Speaker 1: we're very nervous, we're not going to get our fire
Speaker 1: insurance that could still be at What we're hearing from
Speaker 1: a lot of people who lost their homes in these
Speaker 1: fires is if you have fire insurance, when your home
Speaker 1: completely burns to the ground, you typically do get the
Speaker 1: full amount. Like I'm just I'm just repeating what I've
Speaker 1: heard from other people, which is a relief, huge relief
Speaker 1: to us, and I hope that works out for us
Speaker 1: and everyone else.
Speaker 3: That's what I wanted to ask you about. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: go ahead.
Speaker 1: We have a California Fair Plan. We have a California
Speaker 1: Fair Plan. I'm I'm very nervous about it, very nervous
Speaker 1: about the future of it. But what we're hearing is
Speaker 1: that it will be okay. That the race will probably
Speaker 1: go up over time, but right now will likely be okay.
Speaker 1: The thing that I didn't realize would be the big problem,
Speaker 1: the big sort of that you don't really realize having
Speaker 1: these stories as a reporter, right because we kind of
Speaker 1: go in, we cover it, and then we sort of
Speaker 1: move on off, And is the permitting that the permitting
Speaker 1: takes so long because of the bureaucracy in LA that
Speaker 1: there's months and months of all these different departments looking
Speaker 1: over and then look, we have the original plans to
Speaker 1: our house. A lot of people whose house is burned
Speaker 1: down do or you can pull them, and but yet
Speaker 1: it is supposed to be such an effort to rebuild.
Speaker 1: So that's one of the And look, there's many things
Speaker 1: I'm learning as I'm navigating this. They had no idea
Speaker 1: of covering these fires for so long, but that's one
Speaker 1: of the big ones.
Speaker 2: Well, this is interesting that you mentioned this because one
Speaker 2: of the things that they've talked about is the ways
Speaker 2: in which they are going to fast track a lot
Speaker 2: of the rebuild. So the Coastal Commission is notorious in Malibu.
Speaker 2: I mean, there is almost no way you can navigate
Speaker 2: that in any kind of expeditious manner. But now they're saying, no,
Speaker 2: we're going to now change the way the rebuild will work,
Speaker 2: so you may be able to fast track a lot
Speaker 2: of things.
Speaker 1: I think. I think that's true in a couple of spaces,
Speaker 1: And what I really want to do is really break
Speaker 1: down through there's a few different departments right in the
Speaker 1: Permaning Department. And then there's a few different agencies like,
Speaker 1: for example, the LA County Agency that remove debris that
Speaker 1: apparently takes a few months, right, But there's so many
Speaker 1: things you don't even think about that goes through the
Speaker 1: county that that can take a long period of time
Speaker 1: that hold a lot of us back. And I believe
Speaker 1: personally we need to build back fast. We have the
Speaker 1: the Olympics coming in twenty twenty eight. This place looks
Speaker 1: like a war zone. We have the World Content he
Speaker 1: in yeah twenty six, we have you know, a litory
Speaker 1: election obviously in twenty twenty six, eight presidential election in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, and hoping some of these things will
Speaker 1: force our elected officials to remove more of these sort
Speaker 1: of like these things that just delay and delay and delay.
Speaker 2: Well, there's bureaucracy and there's also building back smart. We
Speaker 2: can't just fast track everything and you end up in
Speaker 2: the same place years later. So we have to build
Speaker 2: back with fire resistant materials. We've got to build back smart,
Speaker 2: otherwise we'll be talking to Zorin again in another three years.
Speaker 1: Mark, I got to tell you on that point, and
Speaker 1: this is where I get confused, right, because I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: all this stuff does take so long. We're you know,
Speaker 1: for the original people who built my house in twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: they spent eight years getting permits. Sometimes it took them
Speaker 1: one year to get an answer back on a single questions. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: our health. Our house is built of glass and steel.
Speaker 1: If you look at the top of it, right, we
Speaker 1: had sprinklers and we remotely turned on the day of
Speaker 1: the fire we had. We didn't have a house behind us,
Speaker 1: we did not have a house next to us. And
Speaker 1: so my fear is these fires are getting so strong
Speaker 1: and it's stronger and sound right, it's not getting any better, right, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: we do have to build back stronger and smarter, but
Speaker 1: to some extent I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, it sounds like you were already
Speaker 3: pretty smart.
Speaker 2: I mean on the on the on the build back
Speaker 2: so that that actually your a gallon.
Speaker 1: We had a fire gallon of water, a fire und
Speaker 1: down water tank next to our home. I do not
Speaker 1: believe we need to go up a closer look, but
Speaker 1: we don't believe it was ever used. And this is look,
Speaker 1: we know our firefighters were stretched. We we know they
Speaker 1: had a really tough time out there. But I'm say
Speaker 1: I will be very satisfy. Really border this tank was
Speaker 1: not used from the picture I took, and from the
Speaker 1: angle or the angle that we saw, it was not.
Speaker 1: And look we did not make it close to the house.
Speaker 1: I was ready to go up there and stand on
Speaker 1: the you know, on the remains of my house. My
Speaker 1: husband was inconsolable. We got there and I said, do
Speaker 1: you want to drive up that's the bottom of the
Speaker 1: driveway where you can see the photo that I took
Speaker 1: from the angle, And he said no, no, and he
Speaker 1: was just sobbing. He said, take a picture and let's go.
Speaker 1: And but I am so curious to go up there.
Speaker 1: I just all I want to know is how did
Speaker 1: this happen?
Speaker 5: A tree?
Speaker 1: You know, maybe an ember? The toll on a tree
Speaker 1: my house.
Speaker 4: By the way, I learned that stat from Dean Sharp,
Speaker 4: who has a show here on KFI. He said that
Speaker 4: eighty percent of homes that are struck by wildfire come
Speaker 4: from embers. They're not on the fire line. So that's
Speaker 4: very welcome your situation, Zorine.
Speaker 5: We got to run. Thank you so much though, for
Speaker 5: it really is and wishing you whenever and.
Speaker 4: Rishi your husband the best Zorine Shaw if you see
Speaker 4: Los Angeles correspondent, but the g man, he'll be calling
Speaker 4: in a little bit later.
Speaker 2: Very if we can, if we can stitch it together,
Speaker 2: we're going to try to make it happen so he
Speaker 2: can say.
Speaker 4: Hi his listeners miss him and Shannon of course, yeah,
Speaker 4: those two are great.
Speaker 2: The governor is busy with an executive order signed yesterday.
Speaker 2: This is to help protect victims of the fire from
Speaker 2: predatory real estate speculators. There's a lot going on, but
Speaker 2: speculators come in and they'll just buy it up as
Speaker 2: is right.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there's already offers pouring in.
Speaker 4: And so newsom came and you know who was along
Speaker 4: with them was the board chair of Ellie County Supervisors,
Speaker 4: Katherine Barger. She joined last night during the Fox eleven
Speaker 4: news at six o'clock, so I had her on. I
Speaker 4: asked her about it because there was a photo op
Speaker 4: of her with the governor and other local officials, and
Speaker 4: she said, oh, yeah, because we are. We're tired of
Speaker 4: it already, of people trying to take advantage of literal
Speaker 4: victims to be victimized.
Speaker 5: Here's what she told me. What's the takeaway?
Speaker 6: Well, the takeaway is that you know, there are predators
Speaker 6: out there that are taking advantage of people. And you know,
Speaker 6: we talk about price gouging, and then we were talking
Speaker 6: about individuals. I was passing the convention center and sought
Speaker 6: individuals handing out cards saying you don't need to go
Speaker 6: through your broker, we'll take care of you. And now
Speaker 6: we have people calling and saying we'll buy your property.
Speaker 6: We'll give you one two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: And these people.
Speaker 6: Are vulnerable, they are in shock, and it is sickening
Speaker 6: to know that there are individuals out there who are
Speaker 6: taking advantage of these victims.
Speaker 3: They are victims.
Speaker 4: Can you believe that I want to get back to
Speaker 4: some as you said in there, that she was at
Speaker 4: the Pasadena Convention Center, which is now serving as an
Speaker 4: evacuation center. It's the largest one out there for victims
Speaker 4: of the Eaton fire or Policies fire.
Speaker 5: But obviously this is.
Speaker 4: Close to Altadena, and she had an LA County jacket
Speaker 4: on it didn't say that she was a supervisor, and
Speaker 4: let alone the board chair and the fraudsters were there
Speaker 4: and they walked up to her and they handed her
Speaker 4: a card.
Speaker 5: You know something about here, We're here to help you.
Speaker 3: That's just wild.
Speaker 5: I mean it is that is how it's.
Speaker 4: Like going to a hospital and praying on people who
Speaker 4: are about to sure and on their last breath.
Speaker 3: Right, you can sign your estate over to me, now.
Speaker 4: Exactly, I'll take care of you. Don't worry. I'll take
Speaker 4: care of your family. So is that that bad to
Speaker 4: hear all of those stories out there?
Speaker 2: So on the politics of it all? You spoke to
Speaker 2: her about that. Here you go.
Speaker 5: What's the takeaway?
Speaker 2: Oh, oh, it's a different cut or is just the
Speaker 2: same cut?
Speaker 5: That's what's the takeaway? What's going to be for the
Speaker 5: next segment?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: It was, yeah, but we can do.
Speaker 3: It all now, Well, let's do it next segment. Then.
Speaker 3: I like staying on plant, you know, I like to
Speaker 3: order off the menu.
Speaker 5: Are you sure?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to do that. Is that okay with you? Keana?
Speaker 2: Is that we're gonna We're gonna we'll do this when
Speaker 2: we come back. Yeah, okay, Garian Shannon Show. We do
Speaker 2: like to follow a plan. You know, it seems very loose,
Speaker 2: and it is loose, but we do have a plan.
Speaker 4: Well, Kenna is the producer and she's doing great jobs.
Speaker 3: And we like to follow her plan and restruct her plan.
Speaker 5: Jacob on the board, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Jacob's plan is pretty much set every day. He is unshakable.
Speaker 2: But our plan is movable. And there's an Israeli a
Speaker 2: Mas deal that was reached. And you may hear much
Speaker 2: about this today because it's probably the lead story internationally.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a fifteen month war that's gone
Speaker 2: on and the destruction that it's wreaked is otherworldly.
Speaker 4: And we've heard this time and time again that you know,
Speaker 4: they're getting closer to a deal, closer to a deal.
Speaker 4: According to mediators, the deal includes phased hostage releases, hundred
Speaker 4: prisoner exchanges, and of course it aims to ultimately end
Speaker 4: the fifteen month long war, though there are questions that
Speaker 4: do remain about the displaced Palestinians returning Gaza's reconstruction and
Speaker 4: achieving lasting piece.
Speaker 2: Well, even the hostage release, there are questions there. It's
Speaker 2: going to be a phased release, is what they're saying
Speaker 2: of these hostages. And this all is, as you know,
Speaker 2: probably broker by the Qataris.
Speaker 3: The Kataris, it is, yes, are very much a part
Speaker 3: of this.
Speaker 2: Many of the Hamas leadership lives in Qatar, and so
Speaker 2: the Qataris were involved in this from the very beginning,
Speaker 2: and envoys for Biden and Trump have been present at
Speaker 2: this latest round of negotiations, and of course the Secretary
Speaker 2: of State Anthony Blincoln obviously very much a part of
Speaker 2: this as well.
Speaker 3: So this is big news.
Speaker 5: It's huge news.
Speaker 4: And Biden is preparing to address the breakthrough agreement later
Speaker 4: tomorrow because today the spotlight's on him because at five
Speaker 4: o'clock our time today he does his farewell address.
Speaker 3: He's doing his exit interview, is what Joe Biden is doing?
Speaker 5: Yeah, is it really an interview? No one's asking him questions.
Speaker 2: Well, it's the closest you'll get as president, so one
Speaker 2: way interview, which is oftentimes the way it works when
Speaker 2: you're president.
Speaker 3: Of the United States.
Speaker 4: That's right, it's your own after action review. Well, speaking
Speaker 4: about it, I did agree, How did you do? I
Speaker 4: did great?
Speaker 2: Let me tell you we are all about after actions
Speaker 2: when it comes to this fire and the questions that
Speaker 2: are being asked. And I say this fire, I mean
Speaker 2: generically this fire situation. A. It's not done. Red flag
Speaker 2: warnings are still up. But b you've had a series
Speaker 2: of conversations with local leadership. Yep, that shed some light
Speaker 2: on what's going on again post at least this initial
Speaker 2: phase of five.
Speaker 4: Well, there's so many politics surrounding it, right, and so
Speaker 4: even let's just start with President ELEC.
Speaker 5: Trump.
Speaker 4: He takes over the White House on Monday, and local
Speaker 4: leaders have asked him to come here. The first one
Speaker 4: was the board chair of La County Supervisors, Katherine Barger.
Speaker 4: She sent him a letter over the weekend and said,
Speaker 4: you know, mister soon to be president again, will you
Speaker 4: please come and survey the damage. You need to see
Speaker 4: this for yourself. So she joined me last night on
Speaker 4: the Fox ELEVENUWS at six o'clock.
Speaker 5: She said that she is confident that he is coming.
Speaker 4: She said, as far as everything that she's being told,
Speaker 4: he will be here later next week. We don't have
Speaker 4: a date. There's not an official confirmation yet. She hasn't
Speaker 4: actually spoken to him while I had her, though, given
Speaker 4: the topic around Trump, House Speaker Mike Johnson, he has
Speaker 4: alluded to having conditions tied to the California wild fire
Speaker 4: aid and that hasn't voted. Well, I asked her about that,
Speaker 4: and here's what she had to say.
Speaker 2: And it will sound something like this is from last night.
Speaker 4: All the politics that have come along with this, and
Speaker 4: the strings attached with Washington and wildfire relief, your thoughts
Speaker 4: on all that strings attached.
Speaker 6: When we get money from the state, there are strings attached.
Speaker 6: So I'm not going to get caught up in the
Speaker 6: strings attached because quite frankly, nobody should write a blank check.
Speaker 6: You know, the reality is there are checks and balances.
Speaker 6: Taxpayers expect that. But when there are things in place
Speaker 6: like FEMA, like SBA small Business Administration, when there are
Speaker 6: things that are already in place, let's make sure we
Speaker 6: use them. So I'm not going to play politics and
Speaker 6: the strings. I'm not going to get caught up in
Speaker 6: that because at the end of the day, no matter
Speaker 6: who's in the White House, there are always going to
Speaker 6: be strings attached. I would expect no less, but I
Speaker 6: am confident that we're all going to work together. At
Speaker 6: least I'm going to my district. My constituents don't care
Speaker 6: whether you're Republican or a Democrat. They want to know
Speaker 6: that you're there to help them. And I guarantee you
Speaker 6: I've made that promise.
Speaker 3: That's a smart politician right there.
Speaker 4: It is she's a straight shooter, sort of a no nonsense,
Speaker 4: but it does make sense. I mean, when people's lives
Speaker 4: have been uprooted, lives have been lost. This is really
Speaker 4: like a paradigm shift, if you will, where things from
Speaker 4: you know, the fires fire started and then life change
Speaker 4: from that moment. We don't need politics in it. We
Speaker 4: just need help.
Speaker 2: But the idea somehow that you would say, hey, no
Speaker 2: big deal, of course there's strings attached where going to be.
Speaker 2: I mean, the idea that you would not let that
Speaker 2: get your back up. Yes, it is really really smart.
Speaker 5: As she said, no one should just write a blank check.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also it's you can always you got to pick
Speaker 2: your battles. And that doesn't feel as though it's a
Speaker 2: smart battle. It's all rhetorical right now. People are just
Speaker 2: you know, kind of taking shots at California. I think
Speaker 2: it's despicable necessarily to wrap a lot of politics in it,
Speaker 2: but sadly that's just the way it is. And that's
Speaker 2: a politician who understands sort of that that's just the
Speaker 2: way it is and isn't going to, as I say,
Speaker 2: get knives out based on that rhetoric.
Speaker 4: And you know, Trump was here earlier, what several years ago,
Speaker 4: with the the Woolsey fire, and he surveyed the damage then,
Speaker 4: and that was when he and Newsome, who he likes
Speaker 4: to call Newscomb, were more amicable.
Speaker 5: And now obviously that ship is sailed.
Speaker 4: And when he comes here though, and sees the destruction
Speaker 4: and just the devastation between all of the fires, I
Speaker 4: would I find it hard to believe that he's going
Speaker 4: to withhold aid.
Speaker 3: Oh, I would agree.
Speaker 2: I mean, it still has to be navigated very sensitively,
Speaker 2: and that's going to come time to Newsom probably, you know,
Speaker 2: but you're right. I think i'd certainly hope that the FEDS,
Speaker 2: in the form of Donald Trump would step up. And
Speaker 2: as you say, he'll be president beginning Monday. When we
Speaker 2: come back. We'll talk about several things related to the
Speaker 2: fires that may speak to the future. I also want
Speaker 2: to visit the cause of the Palisades Malibu fire because
Speaker 2: something was mentioned yesterday and I want to follow up
Speaker 2: on it, and it's fascinating. In fact, Amy King has
Speaker 2: had a bit of it in her news through the morning. Anyway,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about the causes as we continue as well.
Speaker 2: Jay Leno was serving hot meals to the firefighters. We'll
Speaker 2: visit that as well, and again the politics of the
Speaker 2: fires and the politics.
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