WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:07.200 on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:07.240 --> 00:00:10.720 Big shout out to former colleagues and new people at 5 00:00:10.720 --> 00:00:11.240 Fox eleven. 6 00:00:11.279 --> 00:00:12.320 You guys have done a great job. 7 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:15.119 But to all the local news reporters, all of them 8 00:00:15.199 --> 00:00:17.679 at all of the different stations, amazing. And we all 9 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:22.440 are flipping from station to station looking for sometimes neighborhood 10 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:23.519 specific information. 11 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:25.079 Sometimes it's just. 12 00:00:27.039 --> 00:00:30.760 Literally when somebody goes to some shot, you're looking for 13 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:31.399 another shot. 14 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:34.600 I mean, we all become sort of directors in our homes. 15 00:00:34.600 --> 00:00:37.159 You know. Of course, you know people think that we're 16 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:43.640 competitors with various stations. We're all connected. We're in the 17 00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:48.759 same boat. So what I'm trying to say is I 18 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:50.520 follow a lot of the reporters that you see on 19 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:53.759 the other stations and all incredible work that we're doing 20 00:00:53.840 --> 00:00:56.920 out there, and we as in them on the front lines. 21 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:01.640 They're in the actual firefight. Bring those incredible pictures. And 22 00:01:01.679 --> 00:01:04.799 thank goodness though that all seems to be behind us. 23 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:05.959 Yeah, it's true. 24 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:08.120 Knock on Woo, Marla, knock on wood well. 25 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:11.159 And again, and it was a I don't feel like 26 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:13.680 it was like a seventy two hour run where all 27 00:01:13.719 --> 00:01:14.959 of you guys are out there. 28 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:18.799 For NonStop covering and just terrific work. 29 00:01:18.879 --> 00:01:21.239 You know, we don't take that responsibility lightly of informing 30 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:23.840 the public because we're hoping that we're saving lives and 31 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:25.959 saving your home and getting you the vittle information. 32 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:28.319 It's where you get the best of local news, you know. 33 00:01:28.519 --> 00:01:32.120 I think there can be you know, in some when 34 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:34.560 stuff mellows out, it can be kind of if it bleeds, 35 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:36.200 it leads kind of stuff, you know what I mean. 36 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:39.000 But I think when this sort of thing happens, you 37 00:01:39.120 --> 00:01:42.799 need local news desperately, and you need a local news organization. 38 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:45.439 We're lucky in Los Angeles because it's still staff with 39 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:47.920 people and enough people to get out there and give 40 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:49.680 information that's critical to the public. 41 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:51.599 A lot of communities don't have that. 42 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:55.799 But anyway, congratulations on work well done, and sadly it's 43 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:59.239 not over. So now the good news is we had 44 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:01.560 a fairly yes and. 45 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:02.760 Last twenty four hours. 46 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:05.079 In fact, so we heard at the eight am press 47 00:02:05.120 --> 00:02:08.120 briefing that from CalFire that there was little to no 48 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:11.639 new growth in both the Palisades and the Eton fires, 49 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:17.120 but there's always a butt. LAFD fire chief christ and 50 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:21.639 Crowley said they had their surveillance, aerial surveillance going on 51 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:26.080 and infrared technology picked up quite a few hotspots and 52 00:02:26.159 --> 00:02:29.560 so those although you can't see the flames from your 53 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:33.280 vantage point wherever you are, there are hotspots out there. 54 00:02:33.319 --> 00:02:37.000 And of course we know listening to Amy that those 55 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:40.800 red flag warnings remained in effect until three or six 56 00:02:40.840 --> 00:02:43.439 o'clock this afternoon, depending on where you live. So they 57 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:46.759 are closely monitoring the hotspots. But overall, no new fire 58 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:49.360 growth is great, great, great news. 59 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:51.759 I also think that it's worth noting because I know 60 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:53.800 there's some people out there who still. 61 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:54.479 Don't have power. 62 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:57.240 Oh yeah, I mean there's a bunch of power shutdowns 63 00:02:57.599 --> 00:02:59.199 and it's been a while. 64 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:02.439 I mean it's days. Some customers haven't had power. 65 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:07.800 So tens of thousands of Southern California ED customers, because 66 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:13.599 of the red flag conditions, are likely to endure more shutoffs. Again, 67 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:16.719 these are to prevent new wildfires, and the connection between 68 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:20.400 Southern California ED and the Altadena fire is demonstrable. I 69 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:22.280 mean it feels as though there already have been four 70 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:25.479 lawsuits and there could be a class action case emerging there. 71 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:30.599 But new video from overnight is apparently showing that lights 72 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:32.759 are out at gas stations and shopping centers in the 73 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:37.759 San Bernardino Mountains, and the utility power outage map showing 74 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:41.800 that Crestline and Lake Arrowhead is or are among the 75 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:45.719 areas without power this morning. So tens of thousands of 76 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:49.960 Southern California ED customers no power because of these dangerous 77 00:03:49.960 --> 00:03:52.800 red flag conditions. More shut offs could be coming to 78 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:56.800 prevent any new wildfires. That's just worth noting along the way, and. 79 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:59.400 Anytime you see a little spark r upts, you think 80 00:03:59.520 --> 00:04:01.159 of the world. So we were on the air last 81 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:04.240 night and there was another wild fire that broke out 82 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:07.439 in the Pacoima area area right along the Handsome Dam 83 00:04:08.080 --> 00:04:11.400 and it was right next to an apartment complex with 84 00:04:11.479 --> 00:04:15.360 the car port right there, literally right next to it. 85 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:18.839 In La County Fire along with Angelo's National Force. They 86 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:21.759 got there and they were able to put it out 87 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:25.439 within thirty minutes. It was incredible. They aggressively attacked it. 88 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:28.600 But it's one of those things though now when you 89 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:32.920 report we'd normally report wildfires, but now you're just on 90 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:36.000 edge because is this the next big one, sure. 91 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:38.639 And structure fires fall into the same category normally. Go well, 92 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:41.759 you know the structure fire, you know it's a. 93 00:04:41.639 --> 00:04:42.920 Palette factory or something. 94 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:45.120 You know, you idea they had caught fire under this 95 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:49.759 freeway over and overpass. It's sort of like sadly urban life, 96 00:04:49.879 --> 00:04:53.199 you know, and yet now it takes on an entirely 97 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:54.279 different significance. 98 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:55.079 All of those things. 99 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:58.920 Well, we're just glad that so far, as mentioned, last 100 00:04:58.959 --> 00:05:01.759 twenty four hours have been really relatively calm, but there 101 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:04.680 are still the bad players out there. Ellie County Sheriff 102 00:05:05.240 --> 00:05:10.480 Robert Luna he announced today that forty four people total, 103 00:05:10.680 --> 00:05:14.360 just in his jurisdiction have been arrested for things like looting, burglary, 104 00:05:14.839 --> 00:05:18.759 curfew violations, weapons possessions. And there was a second person 105 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:23.959 in the last twenty four hours, mark arrested for impersonating 106 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:24.720 a firefighter. 107 00:05:24.800 --> 00:05:27.720 That's just insane, insane, insane. 108 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:34.040 I mean again, I'm hoping for prompt and severe prosecutions 109 00:05:34.160 --> 00:05:34.920 and punishments. 110 00:05:34.959 --> 00:05:37.279 Well, Hawkman was part of the ad impressor and he 111 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:39.920 said absolutely, you know, I mean, the other day he 112 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:43.399 announced ten people charges against them, nine for looting, one 113 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:46.079 for arson. That arson case was not directly linked to 114 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:48.000 these recent wildfires. 115 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.199 Nonetheless, I think the least. 116 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:53.439 Amount of jail time that these people are looking at 117 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:54.439 is six years. 118 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:55.639 Yeah. 119 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:57.480 So Hawkman's serious. 120 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.959 Yeah, and that's what we need. We need follow through 121 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:01.600 on this stuff. 122 00:06:01.680 --> 00:06:05.199 It's crazy, the looting, the impastination of firefighters so you 123 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:08.480 can then go in and loot, and of course arson 124 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:11.120 and I get it some of the arson cases because 125 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:13.040 in that press conference they were talking about, you know, 126 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:15.639 some of the specifics around these arsen cases and they 127 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:19.439 sound like you know, fed up street people, you know. 128 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:25.920 But sorry, there is no rationale, no excuse, no framing 129 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:29.720 that gives me any sympathy for people setting fires. 130 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:31.439 Oh stop, absolutely not. 131 00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:35.800 And you know they've all been sort of connected on this, 132 00:06:36.000 --> 00:06:38.800 which is good to see the chief of fire, the 133 00:06:38.879 --> 00:06:43.199 chief of police, the chief of the sheriff's department, and 134 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:47.439 then Hawkman out there saying we're done. You know, you 135 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:49.879 you get caught, We're going to throw the book at you. 136 00:06:49.920 --> 00:06:50.199 Great. 137 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:53.519 Great throwing the book is something that we have to 138 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:54.480 get a lot better at. 139 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:57.079 Yeah, we haven't done that of late in recent years, 140 00:06:57.079 --> 00:06:59.160 but I think the tides changing. 141 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:02.560 It's been a week after the Palisades fire started, and 142 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:07.000 the cleanup along PCH has started. Federal and state teams 143 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:10.120 are getting rid of hazardous waste and debris from houses 144 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:15.079 businesses that were taken out by the fires. They had 145 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:21.000 four dumpsters filled with debris by midday yesterday. They've established 146 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:25.279 a buffer zone along the freeway, so they've created two 147 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:28.040 lanes of workable space for crews to park and to 148 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:33.839 clear debris. And they're dumpsters all along those areas of PCH. 149 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:35.720 And of course we've talked about the We've talked about 150 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:39.240 the toxins and in the air. Yeah, it's a really 151 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:44.439 unhealthy period, you know, during the fires and even post fire. 152 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:46.560 You know, I'm glad you wrought that up because if 153 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:50.040 you watch local forecasts right and they have their air 154 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:52.000 quality censors up, and you did this, this is what 155 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:55.720 you used to do, right. Sure, well, it's deceiving because 156 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:59.959 the air quality sensors linked to the National Weather Service. 157 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.120 If you look in our area right now, it says good, 158 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:05.680 which is very deceiving. But we had a doctor on 159 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:06.240 last night. 160 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.079 He's a medical contributor who works for US, doctor Michael Daniel. 161 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:14.800 He said that those sensors don't pick up all of 162 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:18.480 the toxins. The only monitor five, which aren't even necessarily 163 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:19.000 the worst. 164 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:21.360 They check for particulate matter I think in the main 165 00:08:21.439 --> 00:08:23.639 and so you don't see a lot of those toxins 166 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:27.680 played out with the ultimate number that they give you. 167 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:29.519 They'll give you like a you know, something in the 168 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:33.320 fifties is usually acceptable type thing. And yeah, you're right. 169 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:35.879 So much gets into the outfield just because the technology 170 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:38.759 is not designed to be tuned to some of these toxins, 171 00:08:38.799 --> 00:08:43.039 I mean, metals and other just stuff that gets into 172 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:44.360 your lungs, deep into your lungs. 173 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:45.720 I could really do some damage. 174 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:48.519 Well that's something to keep in mind. So there are. 175 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:49.960 Free Christmas everybody. 176 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:55.559 Yeah, sorry, well, happy New Year already. We're on day fifteen. 177 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:59.399 You know, at some point today I want to double 178 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:02.600 back and talk about the cause of the Palisades fire, 179 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:05.600 because it was addressed at the press conference, I believe 180 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:08.759 a bit, but they just there. Yeah, No, let's do it, 181 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:13.440 because essentially there was yesterday I was talking about it 182 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:15.720 a bit, and today I've got some key follow up 183 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:15.919 on that. 184 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:16.720 So we'll get to it. 185 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:19.480 Okay, joining us now is somebody I'm looking forward to 186 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:22.840 talking to. I'm sorry that it's under these circumstances. I 187 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:24.720 used to work with her at Fox eleven when she 188 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:27.120 was part of the team there, she says, gone on 189 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:32.200 and she's become an LA based correspondent for ABC News Network. 190 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:36.440 Zorene Shaw is on the line now. Zorene, thank you 191 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:37.720 so much for being with us today. 192 00:09:38.759 --> 00:09:40.440 Of course, lad with you. 193 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:45.000 I saw the Instagram post from Zorine and it was moving. 194 00:09:45.200 --> 00:09:48.000 It was really And that's really the reason that we 195 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:51.440 brought Zorine on into the mix today because her story 196 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:56.000 is I think, an extraordinary one, but it's also one 197 00:09:56.039 --> 00:10:00.320 that is relatable. Sadly, I've heard others similar and so 198 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:02.240 maybe we can begin to lay that. 199 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:03.840 Out absolutely really quite moving. 200 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:08.279 Yes, So, Zorene and her husband had spent one night 201 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:12.000 in their brand new home in Malibu and then it 202 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:16.960 burned down. Literally, Zorene, you closed on Christmas Eve. 203 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:21.720 Crazy, It's crazy, we did. And this was our dream house. 204 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:25.519 Rechi had spent six years, you know, every month, sometimes 205 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:29.320 every weekend driving up to Malibu to look for, you know, 206 00:10:29.399 --> 00:10:32.559 our dream house, and he found it. We were so 207 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:38.159 excited and I was so proud, you know, I stayed 208 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:41.399 and saved and we don't make a gazillion dollars that 209 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:44.960 this job. We don't and and I, you know, my 210 00:10:45.039 --> 00:10:47.559 parents had never owned a home. I saved and I 211 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:50.440 was so excited and proud to have twenty percent of 212 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:53.480 down payment. And we put it in. We got it, 213 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:59.080 and we we enjoyed a night there. We had a 214 00:10:59.120 --> 00:11:01.960 few other hours, and then it was gone. And this 215 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:05.399 home was a perfect home. I can't say that enough. 216 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:07.559 Everyone keeps saying, oh, you'll build that better, Oh you'll 217 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:10.000 build a better home, You'll build your dream home. But 218 00:11:10.159 --> 00:11:13.120 this was our dream home. I mean it was home 219 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:15.679 where you you know, deer would come up to the window. 220 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.080 Like we had an alvocado and a peach and a 221 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:23.240 green tree. We had just this beautiful ocean view. This 222 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:25.480 is a home we wanted to retire in. We wanted 223 00:11:25.480 --> 00:11:28.440 to bring our friends over. We just loved it and 224 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:30.679 we were excited. And look, I have to say, I 225 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.879 have to say that we just closed on Christmas Eve. 226 00:11:34.120 --> 00:11:36.480 There are a lot of people out there who lost 227 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:39.840 their homes, who have lost far more. They have lost 228 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:42.840 a lifetime of belongings, and they have lost a lifetime 229 00:11:42.840 --> 00:11:45.720 of memories. We are one of the lucky ones, and 230 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:48.120 we are devastated for them. We have lost. We have 231 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:50.600 three friends who lost their homes in the Albany in 232 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:54.360 the fire. They lost everything, man like except for their 233 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:56.440 travel bags and then like you know, the bat clothes 234 00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:59.480 on their back. They have nothing. And so we we 235 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:01.279 know how lucky we are in this moment. But we 236 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:02.879 lost the dream. That's what we lost. 237 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:06.279 Yeah, I mean, obviously you were pretty into perspective there, 238 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:08.840 and everyone has their own story. Nonetheless, it doesn't take 239 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:11.519 away or diminish you know what you and your husband 240 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:14.360 are going through. Just to think that the one night, 241 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:18.399 how how are you two doing? What's recovery look like? 242 00:12:18.480 --> 00:12:20.600 Are you planning to rebuild there? 243 00:12:21.840 --> 00:12:25.399 Absolutely we are, but we we you know, Marlon. I'm 244 00:12:25.440 --> 00:12:27.919 also dealing with I certied as a reporter because you 245 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:31.399 and I we've covered fires for so long. My god, 246 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:34.840 you know, I've said on so many since near so 247 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:37.879 many people burned down homes. I've said on so much 248 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:40.600 turned lands. I mean, as a reporter in Los Angeles, 249 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:43.799 you cover these over and over and over again. While 250 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:47.480 I'm dealing with it with it be my home, and 251 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:50.639 I'm learning so much. I'm learning, you know, first of 252 00:12:50.639 --> 00:12:52.399 all the thing that I thought would be the biggest 253 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:56.200 struggle is not the biggest struggle. I thought that. I look, 254 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:58.320 we're very nervous, we're not going to get our fire 255 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.440 insurance that could still be at What we're hearing from 256 00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:03.399 a lot of people who lost their homes in these 257 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:06.399 fires is if you have fire insurance, when your home 258 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:10.879 completely burns to the ground, you typically do get the 259 00:13:10.919 --> 00:13:12.960 full amount. Like I'm just I'm just repeating what I've 260 00:13:12.960 --> 00:13:15.159 heard from other people, which is a relief, huge relief 261 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:17.360 to us, and I hope that works out for us 262 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:18.200 and everyone else. 263 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:20.200 That's what I wanted to ask you about. I'm sorry, 264 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:20.519 go ahead. 265 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.080 We have a California Fair Plan. We have a California 266 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.759 Fair Plan. I'm I'm very nervous about it, very nervous 267 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:28.960 about the future of it. But what we're hearing is 268 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:31.919 that it will be okay. That the race will probably 269 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:34.759 go up over time, but right now will likely be okay. 270 00:13:35.039 --> 00:13:37.679 The thing that I didn't realize would be the big problem, 271 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:40.840 the big sort of that you don't really realize having 272 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:42.440 these stories as a reporter, right because we kind of 273 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:43.840 go in, we cover it, and then we sort of 274 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:46.919 move on off, And is the permitting that the permitting 275 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.279 takes so long because of the bureaucracy in LA that 276 00:13:50.360 --> 00:13:54.480 there's months and months of all these different departments looking 277 00:13:54.519 --> 00:13:56.480 over and then look, we have the original plans to 278 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:58.360 our house. A lot of people whose house is burned 279 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.159 down do or you can pull them, and but yet 280 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.879 it is supposed to be such an effort to rebuild. 281 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:06.159 So that's one of the And look, there's many things 282 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:08.799 I'm learning as I'm navigating this. They had no idea 283 00:14:08.840 --> 00:14:11.000 of covering these fires for so long, but that's one 284 00:14:11.000 --> 00:14:11.600 of the big ones. 285 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:14.039 Well, this is interesting that you mentioned this because one 286 00:14:14.039 --> 00:14:16.039 of the things that they've talked about is the ways 287 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:17.919 in which they are going to fast track a lot 288 00:14:17.960 --> 00:14:22.240 of the rebuild. So the Coastal Commission is notorious in Malibu. 289 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:25.159 I mean, there is almost no way you can navigate 290 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:28.799 that in any kind of expeditious manner. But now they're saying, no, 291 00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:32.000 we're going to now change the way the rebuild will work, 292 00:14:32.080 --> 00:14:33.600 so you may be able to fast track a lot 293 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:34.840 of things. 294 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:36.720 I think. I think that's true in a couple of spaces, 295 00:14:36.759 --> 00:14:38.240 And what I really want to do is really break 296 00:14:38.279 --> 00:14:40.679 down through there's a few different departments right in the 297 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:43.440 Permaning Department. And then there's a few different agencies like, 298 00:14:43.480 --> 00:14:46.879 for example, the LA County Agency that remove debris that 299 00:14:47.000 --> 00:14:49.720 apparently takes a few months, right, But there's so many 300 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:51.919 things you don't even think about that goes through the 301 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:54.360 county that that can take a long period of time 302 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:57.519 that hold a lot of us back. And I believe 303 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:00.039 personally we need to build back fast. We have the 304 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:02.919 the Olympics coming in twenty twenty eight. This place looks 305 00:15:02.919 --> 00:15:06.879 like a war zone. We have the World Content he 306 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:10.759 in yeah twenty six, we have you know, a litory 307 00:15:10.840 --> 00:15:13.320 election obviously in twenty twenty six, eight presidential election in 308 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:16.519 twenty twenty eight, and hoping some of these things will 309 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:20.559 force our elected officials to remove more of these sort 310 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:23.120 of like these things that just delay and delay and delay. 311 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:26.919 Well, there's bureaucracy and there's also building back smart. We 312 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:30.159 can't just fast track everything and you end up in 313 00:15:30.200 --> 00:15:32.960 the same place years later. So we have to build 314 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:36.440 back with fire resistant materials. We've got to build back smart, 315 00:15:36.440 --> 00:15:39.600 otherwise we'll be talking to Zorin again in another three years. 316 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:41.919 Mark, I got to tell you on that point, and 317 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:44.159 this is where I get confused, right, because I'm like, okay, 318 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:46.320 all this stuff does take so long. We're you know, 319 00:15:46.440 --> 00:15:48.879 for the original people who built my house in twenty eleven, 320 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:52.080 they spent eight years getting permits. Sometimes it took them 321 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:55.559 one year to get an answer back on a single questions. Wow, yeah, 322 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:59.120 our health. Our house is built of glass and steel. 323 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:02.039 If you look at the top of it, right, we 324 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:05.200 had sprinklers and we remotely turned on the day of 325 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:08.799 the fire we had. We didn't have a house behind us, 326 00:16:08.879 --> 00:16:11.039 we did not have a house next to us. And 327 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:14.759 so my fear is these fires are getting so strong 328 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:19.600 and it's stronger and sound right, it's not getting any better, right, Like, yes, 329 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:23.519 we do have to build back stronger and smarter, but 330 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:25.720 to some extent I don't know. 331 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:30.879 I don't know. Yeah, it sounds like you were already 332 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:31.480 pretty smart. 333 00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:33.320 I mean on the on the on the build back 334 00:16:33.440 --> 00:16:36.399 so that that actually your a gallon. 335 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:39.080 We had a fire gallon of water, a fire und 336 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:41.200 down water tank next to our home. I do not 337 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:43.919 believe we need to go up a closer look, but 338 00:16:43.960 --> 00:16:46.240 we don't believe it was ever used. And this is look, 339 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:49.639 we know our firefighters were stretched. We we know they 340 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:54.240 had a really tough time out there. But I'm say 341 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:57.480 I will be very satisfy. Really border this tank was 342 00:16:57.519 --> 00:17:00.559 not used from the picture I took, and from the 343 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.159 angle or the angle that we saw, it was not. 344 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:05.240 And look we did not make it close to the house. 345 00:17:05.279 --> 00:17:06.839 I was ready to go up there and stand on 346 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:09.200 the you know, on the remains of my house. My 347 00:17:09.319 --> 00:17:13.119 husband was inconsolable. We got there and I said, do 348 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:14.720 you want to drive up that's the bottom of the 349 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:16.680 driveway where you can see the photo that I took 350 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:19.480 from the angle, And he said no, no, and he 351 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:21.680 was just sobbing. He said, take a picture and let's go. 352 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:25.400 And but I am so curious to go up there. 353 00:17:25.440 --> 00:17:27.359 I just all I want to know is how did 354 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:27.759 this happen? 355 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:29.000 A tree? 356 00:17:29.640 --> 00:17:31.279 You know, maybe an ember? The toll on a tree 357 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:33.680 my house. 358 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:37.119 By the way, I learned that stat from Dean Sharp, 359 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:39.799 who has a show here on KFI. He said that 360 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:44.200 eighty percent of homes that are struck by wildfire come 361 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:47.599 from embers. They're not on the fire line. So that's 362 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:50.000 very welcome your situation, Zorine. 363 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:52.400 We got to run. Thank you so much though, for 364 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:55.880 it really is and wishing you whenever and. 365 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:58.680 Rishi your husband the best Zorine Shaw if you see 366 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:01.440 Los Angeles correspondent, but the g man, he'll be calling 367 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:02.240 in a little bit later. 368 00:18:03.240 --> 00:18:05.519 Very if we can, if we can stitch it together, 369 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:06.920 we're going to try to make it happen so he 370 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:07.440 can say. 371 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:10.480 Hi his listeners miss him and Shannon of course, yeah, 372 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:11.319 those two are great. 373 00:18:11.680 --> 00:18:17.599 The governor is busy with an executive order signed yesterday. 374 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:21.480 This is to help protect victims of the fire from 375 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:25.680 predatory real estate speculators. There's a lot going on, but 376 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:28.240 speculators come in and they'll just buy it up as 377 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:28.839 is right. 378 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:31.440 Oh yeah, there's already offers pouring in. 379 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:35.400 And so newsom came and you know who was along 380 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:39.240 with them was the board chair of Ellie County Supervisors, 381 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:42.920 Katherine Barger. She joined last night during the Fox eleven 382 00:18:42.920 --> 00:18:45.279 news at six o'clock, so I had her on. I 383 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:47.359 asked her about it because there was a photo op 384 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:50.680 of her with the governor and other local officials, and 385 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:54.680 she said, oh, yeah, because we are. We're tired of 386 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:58.480 it already, of people trying to take advantage of literal 387 00:18:58.839 --> 00:19:01.640 victims to be victimized. 388 00:19:01.839 --> 00:19:03.920 Here's what she told me. What's the takeaway? 389 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:07.319 Well, the takeaway is that you know, there are predators 390 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:10.200 out there that are taking advantage of people. And you know, 391 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:12.599 we talk about price gouging, and then we were talking 392 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:16.319 about individuals. I was passing the convention center and sought 393 00:19:16.680 --> 00:19:19.279 individuals handing out cards saying you don't need to go 394 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.960 through your broker, we'll take care of you. And now 395 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:26.319 we have people calling and saying we'll buy your property. 396 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:29.440 We'll give you one two hundred thousand dollars. 397 00:19:29.839 --> 00:19:30.920 And these people. 398 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:35.200 Are vulnerable, they are in shock, and it is sickening 399 00:19:35.279 --> 00:19:37.519 to know that there are individuals out there who are 400 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:40.480 taking advantage of these victims. 401 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:41.880