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<v Speaker 1>Deborah, with her thirty years of being an ltrepreneur and

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<v Speaker 1>creating over seven companies, knows exactly what it means to

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<v Speaker 1>accept the mission. When you make that decision, when you

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<v Speaker 1>accept the mission to become a solopreneur, to take yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and your talents to market, then you embrace a life

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<v Speaker 1>of not only unlimited possibilities, but also the unknown. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an elixir of fear and bravery that only someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>taken the leap really understands. On our show, deb digs

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<v Speaker 1>deep with her guests to highlight what you the listener

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<v Speaker 1>wants to know the stories, the whys, and the hows

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<v Speaker 1>to navigate the journey to success. Get ready to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from some of the most incredible mission takers from Generation

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<v Speaker 1>Z to boomers. So sit up, perk up, and get

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<v Speaker 1>ready to be blown away. Now here is your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Deborah Drummond.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello and welcome back. Mission accepted. I love and astore you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know that you are the most stand upon

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<v Speaker 2>listeners and viewers. I love it if you are watching,

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<v Speaker 2>you are seeing that we have more than just myself

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<v Speaker 2>today and more than just a rock star guest. We

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<v Speaker 2>have a plethora of gorgeous beautiful authors with us today,

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you so much for being so excited about

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<v Speaker 2>the group shows that we're doing. I know that you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting like, you know, it's kind of like ten X.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we in the world of two axes and five

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<v Speaker 2>axes and ten X is your business? So you get

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<v Speaker 2>to come on to mission accepted and ten X today

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to three ax your experience listening to these

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<v Speaker 2>incredible entrepreneurs. And let's talk about that, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we have people that come on for group podcasts, or

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<v Speaker 2>we think about actors, we think about authors, we think

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<v Speaker 2>about musicians, we think about poets, we think about people

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<v Speaker 2>in the creative world, and we don't really think of

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<v Speaker 2>them as entrepreneurs. Right. It's like when you meet an author,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't go, oh, you own your own business. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't say that, or an artist you don't say Now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, conceptually because we've heard this thing around starving artists, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think that's going to carry through every

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<v Speaker 2>generation or something. Maybe then you know it'll change, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know that they are kind of self funding, but

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<v Speaker 2>you don't really see them as entrepreneurs, right that have

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<v Speaker 2>to do marketing and have accountants and do all the

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<v Speaker 2>things as you see someone like in business entrepreneuring going

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<v Speaker 2>for it, opening a bakery. Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>It's like that's an entrepreneur. But there's really no difference

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<v Speaker 2>other than geography. And so it's really interesting when you

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<v Speaker 2>get to talk to you know, I'm talking to women today.

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<v Speaker 2>So these women that are on path and on you know,

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<v Speaker 2>passion for doing something that may be solo, what they

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<v Speaker 2>do could be a part of what they do. People

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<v Speaker 2>to write books for personal reasons, people write books for

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<v Speaker 2>business reasons. I think it's one of the probably the

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<v Speaker 2>most powerful extended business cards somebody can do. But it

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<v Speaker 2>really depends and it starts with why you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be an author and what does that look like? And

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<v Speaker 2>so we're going to dive a little deep intoday because

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<v Speaker 2>you might be thinking about becoming an author. You might

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<v Speaker 2>be someone who's done a solo project but don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what that looks like when you do it collaborate with

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen or eighteen or twenty five or two hundred other women,

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<v Speaker 2>what does that look like? What's that experience like? Or

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<v Speaker 2>vice versa where you may have spent a world doing

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<v Speaker 2>collaborative books and you're like, I know there's my book

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<v Speaker 2>inside me that I need to do. And then sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>like a couple of ladies that are joining us today,

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<v Speaker 2>that date got pushed pretty quickly because the opportunity triggered that.

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<v Speaker 2>Why so I would like to introduce you to our

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<v Speaker 2>Author's Day. We have Mss Kathy Holt, we have Leslie Kapps,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have Carol Koppleman, and we're going to just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of do a little conversation and join in, join in.

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<v Speaker 2>You are going to be so inspired today. You are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be an inspired inspired audience. Kathy, let's start

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit with you, if you'd like to say

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<v Speaker 2>hello and talk to people about what it is that

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<v Speaker 2>you're like you. I know that you're in process. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>share with us where you're at in terms of your

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<v Speaker 2>book production right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Thanks Deben, Thanks for bringing us all together and

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<v Speaker 3>giving us this opportunity. Just briefly, I probably have been

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<v Speaker 3>a writer most of my life. I wrote my first

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<v Speaker 3>short story when I was five years old and recovering

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<v Speaker 3>from a ton selectomy and I had to tell my story.

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<v Speaker 3>My first job was as a medical writer and a

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<v Speaker 3>science writer, and I wrote many helped ghost write some

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<v Speaker 3>medical books. Medical and wrote some medical journal articles and

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<v Speaker 3>then magazine articles, and then I worked my way into

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<v Speaker 3>leadership and women, helping women develop their leadership capacities and skills.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just have this burning need to share wisdom

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<v Speaker 3>information I've gathered so that women maybe don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>to make their path easier when they want to be leaders.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's why I'm writing my solo book now.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, fantastic, Thank you so much for sharing. And what

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<v Speaker 2>about you, Leslie.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm honored to be and this Smorgas board of authors, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was listening to Kathy's story and it made

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<v Speaker 5>me think that I started writing too when I was

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<v Speaker 5>in grade school, right, those books, and you know they

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<v Speaker 5>were about animals who had lives and yeah, probably a

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<v Speaker 5>little freaky now, but and you know, I was always

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<v Speaker 5>a person even in graduate school that they put the

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<v Speaker 5>limit on pages for right, there's a limit of forty pages.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was like, seriously, because I got more stuff

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<v Speaker 5>to say. But in all reality, as you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>did not necessarily plan on a book, but it was

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<v Speaker 5>the opportunity and.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd had like this idea in my head.

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<v Speaker 5>And again, you know, when I took it on, somebody said, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>you need to hit that fifty thousand word mark. So

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, okay, I'll get that done right. So

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<v Speaker 5>it was again that that sort of thing of yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>what's the limit that we can get to. But I

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<v Speaker 5>think as women and especially women entrepreneurs, we want to

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<v Speaker 5>tell our story right. We want to help people on

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<v Speaker 5>this journey. And really my goal would be to switch

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<v Speaker 5>the eighty twenty so eighty percent of entrepreneurs succeed instead

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<v Speaker 5>of the twenty that we see now. Some of the

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<v Speaker 5>basics are very simple, so that's kind of my message,

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<v Speaker 5>and particularly women for crying out loud, like we have babies.

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<v Speaker 4>We bring life into the world like online business. Come on,

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<v Speaker 4>we can handle that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's funny. You should be listening to us pre

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<v Speaker 2>show or listening to me pre show.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. I you know when you talk and Kathy,

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<v Speaker 2>you triggered it off from me, and Leslie you made me.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember I don't know if anyone else had one, but

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<v Speaker 2>I had a diary. I had a diary with a

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<v Speaker 2>little blog that you know, my brother could pick with

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<v Speaker 2>a bobby pin. You know, and you know, I used

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<v Speaker 2>to keep it in a little sacred place and we

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<v Speaker 2>used to write about our day or write about things

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<v Speaker 2>that happened. And I was a journal writer for seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>years now. If you had asked me, you know, before

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<v Speaker 2>I started doing publication and what have you heard many

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, if I was a writer, I'd be like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never really written anything. But when you think about

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<v Speaker 2>probably how much we all have written, and how we

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<v Speaker 2>used to have to write essays and you know, go

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<v Speaker 2>get you know, go get data and actually write it out.

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<v Speaker 2>They say now that most people don't actually write for

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<v Speaker 2>more than two hours a day, like they actually don't

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<v Speaker 2>write things out more than twas a day because we're

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<v Speaker 2>texting and typing and doing all the things. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's really interesting when you say that about how

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<v Speaker 2>you truly really have been a writer. I mean conceptually,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have concepts, then you write them down. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the opportunity that Leslie's talking about and Kathy's participating

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<v Speaker 2>in that as well, is that if you've been following

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<v Speaker 2>two sixty two and if you're listening to this podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>you definitely have you know where we've been, you know

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<v Speaker 2>where we're going, you're listening, you're tied in, you're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're super fans of you. Hopefully you're super fans of us.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that we were at the Emmy's with the

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<v Speaker 2>two sixty two book and these two women are in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and also we're on our way to the Oscars and

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<v Speaker 2>the beautiful thing about how when people work together, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't keep that those secrets to ourselves. So these these

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<v Speaker 2>two ladies were like what Now, Kathy was at the Emmy,

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<v Speaker 2>she saw live what went on there. And they are

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<v Speaker 2>writing their book in a time frame because they have

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to also present their book at that forum.

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<v Speaker 2>And so sometimes, you know, the opportunity comes, which is

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<v Speaker 2>what you were just sharing about, and all of a

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<v Speaker 2>sudden you're like, oh, those fifty thousand words or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is, somehow moves to the top of your priority list.

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<v Speaker 2>Which takes me to miss Carol, because Carol has well

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<v Speaker 2>she'll tell you how many collaboratives she's been in, and

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<v Speaker 2>she's going to tell you about this solo book and

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<v Speaker 2>I got to tell you. Let me tell you this

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<v Speaker 2>is an incredible title Entrepreneurs. So Carol Koppelman wrote, do

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<v Speaker 2>the necessary and the rest go to hell. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>these two women have had to do because the date

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<v Speaker 2>for their you know, final chapter was put upon them

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<v Speaker 2>before they started the process. So Carol, maybe share with

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<v Speaker 2>us a little bit about what made you decide to

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<v Speaker 2>do a solo book, what was behind the solo book,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe how long it took you, like, share some

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, like the other two ladies, I was writing from

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<v Speaker 6>the age of about five. My dad gave me one

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<v Speaker 6>of those old composition books, and so I started writing.

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<v Speaker 6>I was writing little new lands, you know, I made

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<v Speaker 6>kind of thing, and I got into I wrote short

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<v Speaker 6>stories that I got published earlier on in my teens,

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<v Speaker 6>and then went on to become a professional technical writer

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<v Speaker 6>for many, many years. But once I retired, semi retired,

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<v Speaker 6>let's say I retired from the corporate world, I had

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<v Speaker 6>the opportunity to write a book, and I figured at

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<v Speaker 6>the point my life experience was as valid as anybody else's,

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<v Speaker 6>So I thought I'd write about that kind of to

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<v Speaker 6>help other young women and maybe middle you know, young

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<v Speaker 6>had some like everybody had some transitions. So it actually

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<v Speaker 6>came to the title, I actually my mom had because

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<v Speaker 6>they had lived in India for a while several years,

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<v Speaker 6>and I had visited there, and one of the terms

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<v Speaker 6>used in India is do the necessary or do the needful,

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<v Speaker 6>and so I looked up the origin of that and

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<v Speaker 6>it's Saint Francis of ASSISI is do the necessary. So

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<v Speaker 6>I thought, well, that's a great title. And I had

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<v Speaker 6>to have a subtitle, so I went in the kitchen

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<v Speaker 6>I asked my Vietnam veteran husband. I said, so, what

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<v Speaker 6>should my subtitle be? He said, let the rest go

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<v Speaker 7>So that's how it was.

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<v Speaker 6>Such a it's such a I'm kind of in sort

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<v Speaker 6>an excellent way of looking at things, do the necessary

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, but it is like it is literally like

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<v Speaker 2>Now, thank you for sharing that, and that was that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's great. How you came up with your title. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait to hear Kathy and Leslie share on another

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<v Speaker 2>show how their title finally came to pieces. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's so funny. The process when you decided to write

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<v Speaker 2>people say that before. I know people that have done

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<v Speaker 2>some of the stuff they were writing that they it

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<v Speaker 2>that they were not triggered in what have you? So

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<v Speaker 2>writing a book can be all over the place. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>being an author of an instructional business book, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all the way to having something where someone's writing a

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere in between. I'm going to ask ladies, let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit about well before we talk a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about, you know, the decision to take the book

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<v Speaker 2>to market, but it's in the decision to writing it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you've all talked about your decision to write the book,

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<v Speaker 2>and then let's talk about how are you finding time

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<v Speaker 2>What did you do, Carol to make it a priority,

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<v Speaker 2>because clearly it got to market somehow. I mean there's

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen years. Is it timing, is it procrastination or are

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<v Speaker 2>they you know, they are not doing the necessary I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure. Maybe they need to read your book. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk a little bit about the process before you

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<v Speaker 2>decide to take it to market. So, Kathy, how are

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<v Speaker 2>you maneuvering it in your life? You've just moved, You've

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<v Speaker 2>you traveling around the world. You know, what, how are

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<v Speaker 2>you What are you doing to make the time to

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it's just being intentional. I have learned

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<v Speaker 7>I've also learned to say no. As you said, I

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<v Speaker 3>learned that I could say no. It wouldn't be the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the world, even though I usually have learned

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<v Speaker 3>to say yes, because opportunities come when you don't expect them.

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<v Speaker 3>But I really know I needed to focus on this

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<v Speaker 3>book and that I was not going to let other

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<v Speaker 7>Sitting, it is piled high with books.

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<v Speaker 4>But I allow myself a.

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<v Speaker 3>Certain amount of time each day to do the to

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<v Speaker 3>just being very intentional. This is super important to me

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<v Speaker 3>and I have to get it done. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know it's important, and Leslie, how about you?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, some of the same.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, we get hung up in how things have to

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<v Speaker 4>And I totally let go of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I wore the same stuff every day, right, I

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<v Speaker 5>had like I like to cook ahead, so I had

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<v Speaker 4>Never cooked.

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<v Speaker 5>Had to walk the dog, right because he's very bossy

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<v Speaker 5>and opinionated, But everything else, right, I let go. And

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<v Speaker 5>this will sound super weird. I fell down some stairs

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<v Speaker 5>right kind of in the middle of the process. So

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<v Speaker 5>I was like being that black and blue and stitches

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<v Speaker 5>in my head. But it allowed me to put off

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<v Speaker 5>everything right.

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<v Speaker 4>It allowed me.

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<v Speaker 5>Not to meet with people, not to go to any networking.

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<v Speaker 5>So in retrospect, it was really a blessing.

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<v Speaker 4>And I had two weeks there where that is what

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<v Speaker 5>Likewise, I granted myself the grace too when I struggled

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<v Speaker 5>for kind of my period was more than an hour.

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<v Speaker 4>On a chapter. That was it like I walked away.

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<v Speaker 5>I moved on or whatever I needed to do, but

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<v Speaker 5>Too, I went out. So my thing is to clean

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<v Speaker 5>the garage. I don't know why I gotta clean garage.

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<v Speaker 5>So in the middle of writing, I'll be like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I got to go clean the garage. Or I love

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<v Speaker 5>to cut down trees with my sawsle I'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I got to go cut down trees. So again, just

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, thank you so much for sharing that. That's I

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<v Speaker 2>love I relate to when it's like going to the garage.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, it's tidying something up, organizing the closet. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just pulled things. I mean, there's you know the

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<v Speaker 2>world is abundant right now in my world, lot's doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just went and pulled the stuff out like

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<v Speaker 2>for the winter and to change my jackets. It'll take

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<v Speaker 2>me twenty minutes, but it'll make me feel in that

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<v Speaker 2>many accomplished so that I can go back into I

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<v Speaker 2>won't say chaos. I'll say multiplex, you know, go back

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<v Speaker 2>into things that are you know, in an ever changing state.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's important, you know it is for me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a form of meditation, right, meditation.

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<v Speaker 4>It's quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm having myself. I have my time with myself. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I get to talk to myself and have a little

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<v Speaker 2>conversation and you know, I have a friend in me.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. If there a song have at Carol for

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<v Speaker 2>you when you were doing your book, what was it

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<v Speaker 2>that you because you know, we have other things in

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<v Speaker 2>our lives, right. You got a husband he's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get get her done. But what's that? What did

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<v Speaker 2>you use to be able to make sure you got

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<v Speaker 2>your book done or what was your process?

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<v Speaker 7>Well?

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, you know I wrote it during the pandemic, at

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<v Speaker 6>the beginning of the pandemic, so I had a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of time inside and I would and my husband was

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<v Speaker 6>but I I remember I would sit around and cogitate

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<v Speaker 6>a lot, and then I'd have to process some of

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<v Speaker 6>these feelings. But actually, once I went through, it was

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<v Speaker 6>so cathartic to go through this process that the person

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<v Speaker 6>I was when I wrote that book, and that was

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<v Speaker 6>about four years ago, I think something like that, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not I don't even resemble that person. And actually it

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<v Speaker 6>was a good thing to talk about the past, but

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<v Speaker 6>in an in kind of an instructive way and a

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<v Speaker 6>helpful way to someone else who might be encountering the

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<v Speaker 6>same things. So it was cogitation, writing little notes to

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<v Speaker 6>myself and also employing some of the same things, cleaning

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<v Speaker 6>the closet or doing something else to kind of get

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<v Speaker 6>myself out of that space and then meditate a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>So I did a lot of that thing, but most

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<v Speaker 6>of it was just thinking about things that. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 6>it took about four or five months probably to write this,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that it's interesting. Thank you for sharing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's interesting because people make decisions to write

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<v Speaker 2>books like we talked earlier, Like I said earlier, for

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<v Speaker 2>different reasons. Some have timelines, some don't. Timelines could be

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<v Speaker 2>a blessing for some people. And then there's that creative process.

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<v Speaker 2>If you haven't said it to yourself, you've probably heard

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<v Speaker 2>other authors say it. It's like, but there's so much

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<v Speaker 2>more I can tell, you know. Or some people have

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time stopping a book and I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 2>can do another one, you know, people like I have

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<v Speaker 2>a trilogy in me. Sometimes when you start to open

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<v Speaker 2>up the gate, you're like, I have a trilogy in me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, perfect, you know, so did JKR Rawlings?

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<v Speaker 4>Look at her?

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<v Speaker 2>She did good. So just you know, say what you

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<v Speaker 2>say in one book and kind of like what you

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<v Speaker 2>said now four years later, you know, there's a whole

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<v Speaker 2>different Carol that would write from a whole different way.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that at every stage that we write,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's instructional, and we were always learning more about

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<v Speaker 2>life and we're always learning more about our craft, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But there's people that are where you were at four

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<v Speaker 2>spoke to a woman prior to getting on the show

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, oh my gosh, you know, da da

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<v Speaker 2>da da da da dad, And I wish I was you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, oh, you know, have you read the book?

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<v Speaker 2>There's people that are exactly you know. I was giving

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<v Speaker 2>her advice from something that happened to me three years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>She's got it going on right now. So I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what's happened, and da da da da da, and you've

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<v Speaker 2>been this and there's trigger like all this stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>that was a three year ago experience. So that's what

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<v Speaker 2>say on our journey and is so important for someone

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<v Speaker 2>who's now embarking on their journey. And you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I think after the tenth time I stopped was Thinking

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<v Speaker 2>over Rich by Napoleon Hill. But the book that changed

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<v Speaker 2>my life, And I'm going to ask you, what was

425
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<v Speaker 2>the book that changed your life? Shakki guy one Living

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<v Speaker 2>in the Light.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in last year of high school and I

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<v Speaker 2>found this book and it was it was a book

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<v Speaker 2>that talked the concept of feminine masculine energy. And I

431
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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, someone's talking about what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on in my body, you know, because that wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation that was, you know, really top of mind for

434
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<v Speaker 2>people when I was in nice school. Right, that's not

435
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<v Speaker 2>femin energy. But it changed my life and it made

436
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<v Speaker 2>me feel like I wasn't you know, I had what

437
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<v Speaker 2>I was experiencing someone else was experiencing. And so it

438
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<v Speaker 2>was an amazing book that I read over and over again.

439
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<v Speaker 2>And then the opportunity came to go see Shafty Guy one.

440
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<v Speaker 2>She was at a Christchurch cathedral in Vancouver, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna go listen to

442
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<v Speaker 2>this woman. And she's talking about her experience about writing

443
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<v Speaker 2>this book, and I was like, well, that's interesting, right,

444
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<v Speaker 2>and then she's like, you know, I read it now,

445
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<v Speaker 2>and I think, oh my god, I can't believe I

446
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<v Speaker 2>gave such crappy advice. I was thinking, what are you

447
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<v Speaker 2>talking about? That advice changed my life? You were you know.

448
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<v Speaker 2>I was, I'm like a super fan, what are you doing?

449
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<v Speaker 2>You're working my heart here? And she was like, I

450
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<v Speaker 2>can't believe when I read it that people actually got

451
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<v Speaker 2>value from that nice way I get to put that.

452
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<v Speaker 2>You know, she had so far advanced and she was like,

453
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<v Speaker 2>what was I thinking when I wrote that stuff? And

454
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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, what you were thinking saved my butt

455
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<v Speaker 2>is a long way to tell you that story. But

456
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<v Speaker 2>that was the book that really changed my life. Ladies,

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<v Speaker 2>what is a book Kathy that really made impression upon

458
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<v Speaker 2>you or changed your life? Oh, we can't hear.

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<v Speaker 3>You ahead, Sorry, I had workers around here. There have

460
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<v Speaker 3>been quite a few, actually, and I'm trying to think.

461
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, for me, a lot of them were in

462
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<v Speaker 3>the seventies and some of the feminist writings about just

463
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<v Speaker 3>beat women having value and being equal. There's Audrey Lord,

464
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<v Speaker 3>there was Gloria Steinem. There were just quite a few

465
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<v Speaker 3>books that just kind of got me motivated and got

466
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<v Speaker 3>me a little angry that we weren't already being considered equal.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I got involved in the e er

468
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<v Speaker 3>work and things like that, so it would be hard

469
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<v Speaker 3>to really just just look at one book. I think

470
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<v Speaker 3>it was a compilation we as we've been talking about

471
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<v Speaker 3>all these different yeah, of all these different women and

472
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<v Speaker 3>their thoughts and and their beliefs and their passion. And

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<v Speaker 3>I got to work with Bella Abzuck for a little

474
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<v Speaker 3>while when I was working in politics, you know, very

475
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<v Speaker 3>early in my career. So just having all this these

476
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<v Speaker 3>these messages and hearing what they had to say and

477
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<v Speaker 3>how they were so passionate and going forward with the

478
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<v Speaker 3>with women's rights and so there would be just there's

479
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<v Speaker 3>quite a few, right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>That made an impression upon And of course you're writing

481
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<v Speaker 2>about leadership and how women becoming leaders and how that's

482
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<v Speaker 2>played into your book today. And Leslie, what about yourself?

483
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<v Speaker 5>Well, you know, Glorious Synems might hear right, So she's

484
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<v Speaker 5>always been the voice in my head. So certainly that

485
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<v Speaker 5>genre of book. But I have to say, like when

486
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<v Speaker 5>you said that, I was. I really thought Martin Luther

487
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<v Speaker 5>King like his writings and as well as Malcolm X,

488
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<v Speaker 5>Like I got really into that.

489
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<v Speaker 4>And there was something about Malcolm.

490
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<v Speaker 5>X's story of when he began to change, because I

491
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<v Speaker 5>think we all have this perception that he was really hateful,

492
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<v Speaker 5>and he certainly was at one point, right, and then

493
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<v Speaker 5>he made this huge shift in his personal beliefs and

494
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<v Speaker 5>everything else, and that's when he was killed and they

495
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<v Speaker 5>for that. For me, that has always stuck with me,

496
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<v Speaker 5>that ability to make that one to eighty shift. And

497
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<v Speaker 5>from the outside we have this perception, right, and yet

498
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<v Speaker 5>people can make that and change completely everything about themselves.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, I just had to mention too, that

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<v Speaker 5>whole change process through the book. I think I even

501
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<v Speaker 5>talked about it a little in the book, and it

502
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<v Speaker 5>was very quick, right, but I knew the person who

503
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<v Speaker 5>began writing the book would not be the same person

504
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<v Speaker 5>who ended up writing the book.

505
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<v Speaker 4>And I see everybody nodding.

506
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<v Speaker 5>It's such a process as you get really focused and

507
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<v Speaker 5>get clearer, you know each chapter, and you can almost

508
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<v Speaker 5>see like how your thought process is changing as well.

509
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<v Speaker 5>And maybe that's a part that I liked about the

510
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<v Speaker 5>Malcolm story and why it's segueing for me, right, is

511
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<v Speaker 5>that change process we make whatever we're doing in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>No true true, true true? And Carol, what about for yourself?

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<v Speaker 6>There's a lot of books, but I was thinking of Eat, Pray, Love,

514
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<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, Elizabeth Gilbert. And I think because I was

515
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<v Speaker 6>always a gypsy really for much of my life, I'm

516
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<v Speaker 6>a little more nesting at this point in my life,

517
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<v Speaker 6>so I didn't reverse but so and also the transition

518
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<v Speaker 6>she went through in their life and from a woman's

519
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<v Speaker 6>perspective of she kind of fell locked down in her

520
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<v Speaker 6>marriage and then she went on the adventure all over

521
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<v Speaker 6>the world, and just that really influenced a lot of

522
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<v Speaker 6>my thinking. I really loved that book. Beautiful book, beautiful movie.

523
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, right, I had a moment with it myself.

524
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<v Speaker 2>It made a big change for my life. And I,

525
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<v Speaker 2>you know, ended up going to Rome, not you know,

526
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<v Speaker 2>not because of the book, but I didn't even you know. Anyways,

527
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<v Speaker 2>it triggered off me going to Rome my first trip

528
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<v Speaker 2>that I went by myself, and I was like, Oh,

529
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<v Speaker 2>this is what they're talking about. This is truly being

530
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<v Speaker 2>on a trip in doing what you want when you want.

531
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<v Speaker 2>It was amazing. It was amazing. So you have your

532
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<v Speaker 2>writing solo books, and you've written a solo book. All

533
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<v Speaker 2>of you ladies have been part of a collaborative book.

534
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<v Speaker 2>I know you've been part of you know, to sixty two,

535
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<v Speaker 2>and Carol, you've been part of two sixty two from

536
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<v Speaker 2>a speaking standpoint and being on the stage and this

537
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<v Speaker 2>whole inner, you know, in our movement of women coming

538
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<v Speaker 2>together and the causes and what that means, and you know,

539
00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:08.839
<v Speaker 2>solidarity and collaboration and all the good stuff. But there's

540
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<v Speaker 2>many different collaborative books so and they all usually have

541
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<v Speaker 2>a different theme, you know. The one that we just

542
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<v Speaker 2>finished producing had to do about women and solidarity and

543
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<v Speaker 2>self funding women and all the good stuff that we've

544
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<v Speaker 2>been talking about. So I'm going to wrap up a

545
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<v Speaker 2>little bit with your launches and things like that, so

546
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<v Speaker 2>maybe fairly a little quickly share the difference. Was there

547
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<v Speaker 2>a difference? Did you have to go inside to the

548
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<v Speaker 2>same degree? What was it like to write in a

549
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<v Speaker 2>collaborative now versus writing your own So Kathin, let's start

550
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<v Speaker 2>with you.

551
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<v Speaker 3>Well, the thing about a coat collaborative book is it's

552
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<v Speaker 3>much shorter, so that does make it a little easier.

553
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<v Speaker 3>But I think for me, at least, I had to

554
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<v Speaker 3>still go deep, so that I wanted to make sure

555
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<v Speaker 3>that those few words that I was contributed, compared to

556
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<v Speaker 3>the whole volume of the book were were heart centered,

557
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<v Speaker 3>and that they came from my experience and my beliefs

558
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:16.400
<v Speaker 3>and my passion and my values. So I think the

559
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<v Speaker 3>same internal work had to go into the process. The

560
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:25.359
<v Speaker 3>actual writing, once again was probably a little easier because

561
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<v Speaker 3>it is shorter. But I whatever I've written ever throughout

562
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<v Speaker 3>my lifetime, even when I've been writing for magazines or

563
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:39.160
<v Speaker 3>even for medical journals, I had to make sure that

564
00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 3>it resonated with the reader. That so many times, you know,

565
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<v Speaker 3>even technical writing seems dry and people don't read it.

566
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<v Speaker 3>So as Carol, she's been a technical writer, so I'm

567
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<v Speaker 3>sure she couldn't probably say talk to this too. Is

568
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<v Speaker 3>that you still have to put in something that makes

569
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<v Speaker 3>them want to read it so that it resonates with them.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's not just you know, blah blah blah science science,

571
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<v Speaker 7>science kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So so that part it does go.

573
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<v Speaker 4>It did.

574
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<v Speaker 3>It takes the internal work I think is similar in

575
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<v Speaker 3>this and but it's just a matter of.

576
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<v Speaker 7>Fewer words, which is sometimes harder than a lot of words.

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<v Speaker 2>I would agree with you. I talked about this yesterday

578
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<v Speaker 2>about how one of my biggest presentations that I was told,

579
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<v Speaker 2>you know, in front of an audience was four minutes.

580
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<v Speaker 2>They wanted me to teach how to raise conscious children

581
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<v Speaker 2>in four minutes. So I was like, oh, I can

582
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<v Speaker 2>do that in one minute. I came out and like,

583
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<v Speaker 2>if you all want to have conscious children, be conscious parents.

584
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<v Speaker 2>Got to go you know what I mean, like, no,

585
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<v Speaker 2>I didn't do that, but the but I agree with you,

586
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<v Speaker 2>like you know, and Leslie talked about it earlier. It

587
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<v Speaker 2>can be difficult to get it tight, you know, I know,

588
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<v Speaker 2>because you know I would write something and Dorothea would

589
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<v Speaker 2>send it back to me and go, you're five hundred

590
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<v Speaker 2>words over. I'm like, how can I be five hundred

591
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<v Speaker 2>words over when I'm only be writing seven hundred words?

592
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Like how's that possible? And getting it tight and getting

593
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<v Speaker 2>it tight and making it impactful. Sometimes you feel like

594
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<v Speaker 2>you're losing part of yourself and what have you. But

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say when I see the you know,

596
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<v Speaker 2>when I see it finished and it's in a collaborative

597
00:31:13.640 --> 00:31:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I like the collaborati because there's joy, joy, happy,

598
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>happy community community, and that makes it a little easier

599
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:21.240
<v Speaker 2>and it tends to be someone else's theme, right, like

600
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<v Speaker 2>at least you know, you know, you got your eye

601
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<v Speaker 2>on writing about that, so it can be easier, but

602
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.759
<v Speaker 2>it can also be more difficult, and that I found difficult.

603
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<v Speaker 2>Yet the impact I found to be just for me

604
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:39.559
<v Speaker 2>at this point, just as grand right, proud of the piece, Leslie,

605
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:40.279
<v Speaker 2>what about yourself?

606
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<v Speaker 5>So Yeah, such different experiences, right, Like I love the

607
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<v Speaker 5>collaborative without a doubt, right, getting to meet super amazing

608
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<v Speaker 5>women like you all and all the others in the

609
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:59.920
<v Speaker 5>two sixty two book, having that support and community. I

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<v Speaker 5>agree with Kathy in the sense of like words matter, right,

611
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<v Speaker 5>So whether we're writing fifty thousand or one hundred, it's

612
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<v Speaker 5>always that real intentional focus. What are we saying? Are

613
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<v Speaker 5>we saying true to ourselves? A solo book, gosh, I

614
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<v Speaker 5>don't know if I'd written one without the opportunity. It

615
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 5>was kind of on the back of my mind. But

616
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 5>it's an undertaking. But I will say, like I having

617
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<v Speaker 5>a short timespan, like I super focused, I had an intention.

618
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<v Speaker 5>I'm very self critical, like I can step back and go, oh,

619
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<v Speaker 5>like that super sucks or that was freaking brilliant, and

620
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 5>that's in the same sentence, right, so yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And then and I tried to kind of like the collaborative, right,

622
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<v Speaker 5>I tried to bring people in, had beta readers and

623
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<v Speaker 5>people reading behind me going okay, like we don't know

624
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<v Speaker 5>what you're talking about, or yeah, maybe or whatever. It

625
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:04.680
<v Speaker 5>is so such a different experience, but yeah, so I

626
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<v Speaker 5>think you should do one of both.

627
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:08.119
<v Speaker 4>Or one of many, right.

628
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<v Speaker 2>One of many, one of many. We have many stories

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<v Speaker 2>to tell. Do share and Carol for yourself liked.

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<v Speaker 6>I liked both, you know, I liked having the opportunity

631
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<v Speaker 6>to do my own book, but also the collaborative piece

632
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<v Speaker 6>because we would have at least monthly meetings with the

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<v Speaker 6>others and so we would it would help us refine

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<v Speaker 6>our theme. And I agree with Kathy that and you

635
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<v Speaker 6>that it's so hard. It's harder actually if to have

636
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<v Speaker 6>a five hundred word limit or something like that is

637
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<v Speaker 6>actually hard, a little bit more challenging to get everything

638
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<v Speaker 6>you want to say in that area. And so I

639
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.880
<v Speaker 6>found that actually more challenging than writing my book, because

640
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<v Speaker 6>I really have to to really focus on, Okay, what

641
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<v Speaker 6>are we really what is our theme? Is isn't and

642
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<v Speaker 6>actually is it going to mesh with everybody else's thing?

643
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<v Speaker 6>And that was the beauty of having these meetings that

644
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.840
<v Speaker 6>we could throw things around and then you know it

645
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 6>really refined pieces. So yeah, both formats are great.

646
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<v Speaker 2>Both formats are great. I mean I almost recommend if

647
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<v Speaker 2>someone's not an author, right, that being part of a collaborative,

648
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<v Speaker 2>particularly if you're going to use it for a business

649
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 2>extension or project extension, or you're an artist and you

650
00:34:28.639 --> 00:34:30.400
<v Speaker 2>want to tell the story, if you're an artist because

651
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<v Speaker 2>you want to sell your art, or whatever. I feel like,

652
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:36.639
<v Speaker 2>if you've had a collaborative experience conceptually, I think it

653
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:38.960
<v Speaker 2>makes it much easier before you write your solo. I

654
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<v Speaker 2>think because you have an understanding, you're like, oh, this

655
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<v Speaker 2>is a launch date, and this is what a book

656
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<v Speaker 2>launch looks like, and this is what oh okay, and

657
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:49.599
<v Speaker 2>you know you've put yourself through that thought process would

658
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.480
<v Speaker 2>seem to me. But we're going to be wrapping it up, ladies,

659
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:55.360
<v Speaker 2>and I all look at those beautiful hearts that Kathy's got.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's just kind of walk around a little bit

661
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<v Speaker 2>and talk about Kathy. Let's go back to you. You

662
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<v Speaker 2>are in the process, and let's talk about the launch.

663
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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about the day that you get to share

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<v Speaker 2>your piece of art with your friend's family or foremost.

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<v Speaker 2>So I know, Carol, that you've done a lunch, we're

666
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<v Speaker 2>gonna talk. We're gonna leave you to last to say

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<v Speaker 2>how you did yours. Kathy, do you have plans for

668
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:19.719
<v Speaker 2>doing a launch? What is it that you're doing. I'll

669
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<v Speaker 2>let you share it yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm learning a lot from you, Deb and I

671
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:29.360
<v Speaker 3>really appreciate that and from everybody who's done a lunch,

672
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<v Speaker 3>and I'm really anxious to hear what Carol has to say,

673
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<v Speaker 3>because that is.

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<v Speaker 7>A little for me daunting.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you could say, I know it will be

676
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<v Speaker 3>at the OSCARS, so I know that will be a

677
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<v Speaker 3>big effect, and I know I will be launching it

678
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<v Speaker 3>at one of the two sixty two speakers summits. But

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<v Speaker 3>planning a launch, I would probably need to do a

680
00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:56.519
<v Speaker 3>launch in Texas because I have such a you know,

681
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:59.119
<v Speaker 3>so many friends there and I know they will want

682
00:35:59.159 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 3>to be help participate in that and celebrate it because

683
00:36:02.639 --> 00:36:06.440
<v Speaker 3>I've lived there for a really long time. I also

684
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<v Speaker 3>would love to try and do a launch in New York,

685
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.719
<v Speaker 3>where I also live part time, but that finding all

686
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:17.159
<v Speaker 3>those kind of people, you know, and all these people

687
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:18.800
<v Speaker 3>to come to it. I do have quite a few

688
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<v Speaker 3>friends there too, but that is that would be quite

689
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:26.000
<v Speaker 3>an an undertaking. But I do know that it's important

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<v Speaker 3>and I would you know, I also will be doing

691
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<v Speaker 3>some launches online, you know, to really to really promote

692
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.320
<v Speaker 3>the book, because I think writing it is difficult, marketing

693
00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:41.039
<v Speaker 3>it can be as difficult or more difficult, because I

694
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<v Speaker 3>do want to make sure that what I've written gets

695
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:46.800
<v Speaker 3>into the hands of women who need it or who

696
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:51.079
<v Speaker 3>might be inspired by it. Because why write wants something

697
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:54.519
<v Speaker 3>if you're not trying to impact or inspire for me

698
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:55.280
<v Speaker 3>other women.

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<v Speaker 2>So awesome We're going to have to do. We'll do

700
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:02.280
<v Speaker 2>at an author launch show all the different types of

701
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:04.239
<v Speaker 2>launches you can do and all the different We'll do

702
00:37:04.280 --> 00:37:07.719
<v Speaker 2>this really cool concept and throw ideas out there and

703
00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:10.559
<v Speaker 2>we'll have an interactive My listeners are like, Kay, let's

704
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:14.599
<v Speaker 2>get you so called. Okay, so cool, and Leslie, how

705
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<v Speaker 2>about yourself?

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<v Speaker 5>A similar position to Kathy right, have been through the

707
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:25.000
<v Speaker 5>launch with you doing some stuff behind the scenes, also

708
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:30.360
<v Speaker 5>cultivating the community already, right to help me with that

709
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:30.920
<v Speaker 5>in mind?

710
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.360
<v Speaker 4>Is gonna be like a rolling launch apparently?

711
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.679
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I kind of say that, like rolling my eyes, right,

712
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:41.119
<v Speaker 5>it seems like a launch that goes on forever. But

713
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:43.840
<v Speaker 5>gonna go ahead and launch it right before Christmas because

714
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.519
<v Speaker 5>I need those physical copies, and then right to the

715
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:51.119
<v Speaker 5>oscars and then to March eighth, so I'm sure by

716
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:52.159
<v Speaker 5>March eighth.

717
00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:53.440
<v Speaker 4>I'll be like Holy Molly.

718
00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:57.480
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, trying to plan all that I think in

719
00:37:57.559 --> 00:38:00.400
<v Speaker 5>some ways. You know, you look back and I was like, fully,

720
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:04.239
<v Speaker 5>the writing the book, that was the easy part. Yeah,

721
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 5>Now it's all these other things that you're like, oh,

722
00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:08.920
<v Speaker 5>oh I haven't thought it. Oh I gotta do that,

723
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:09.719
<v Speaker 5>I gotta do that.

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00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:13.039
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, And and you know, the cool thing

725
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:15.960
<v Speaker 2>I say to people is that you can launch and

726
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:18.599
<v Speaker 2>relaunch your book at any time, right, and people are

727
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.199
<v Speaker 2>as excited for you now as they are then. And

728
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:25.639
<v Speaker 2>that book that a book is a moving piece, unlike

729
00:38:25.639 --> 00:38:27.119
<v Speaker 2>a piece of art, which I love art. I mean,

730
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 2>if I don't know if I have any more room

731
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:32.320
<v Speaker 2>on my walls, honestly, so it's getting pretty bad. They're

732
00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:34.719
<v Speaker 2>doubling and you know, somewhere under a bed at this point.

733
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:37.639
<v Speaker 2>But the but an art piece is, you know, you

734
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:39.880
<v Speaker 2>can move that piece to different parts of your world.

735
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:42.079
<v Speaker 2>But the book, the book. You know, books can be

736
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:46.199
<v Speaker 2>redone and revised and recalibrated and relaunched, and it is

737
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.159
<v Speaker 2>actually a moving piece of art. I think. And so

738
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:52.400
<v Speaker 2>for you, Carol, wrap us up on the launch part.

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00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.920
<v Speaker 6>And well, you know, I had no idea what was

740
00:38:55.960 --> 00:38:58.880
<v Speaker 6>going on. I went through a through a publishing company

741
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:00.880
<v Speaker 6>who took care of a lot of the marketing that

742
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:03.960
<v Speaker 6>was part of the package, and so I really didn't know.

743
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.280
<v Speaker 6>So she set up the launch party. I had to

744
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:10.119
<v Speaker 6>have several people look at the book ahead of time,

745
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:13.360
<v Speaker 6>so I had a launch party I think about twenty

746
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:16.519
<v Speaker 6>people or something like that, and then they would look

747
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.159
<v Speaker 6>on Amazon and and make reviews and stuff like that,

748
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.280
<v Speaker 6>and then she would she did a podcast with me,

749
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:26.000
<v Speaker 6>and then I was part of some networking groups that

750
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:29.199
<v Speaker 6>also wanted to interview me for podcasts. So it kind

751
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:31.320
<v Speaker 6>of get to name the word out. So it was

752
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:33.079
<v Speaker 6>kind of went in there kind of like I don't

753
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:35.360
<v Speaker 6>know what's going on. First time I'd ever been on

754
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:38.039
<v Speaker 6>a podcast. I was scared to death. I dressed up

755
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:42.840
<v Speaker 6>way too much because this isn't the you know, like

756
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:44.880
<v Speaker 6>right after the in the middle of the pandemic and

757
00:39:44.920 --> 00:39:48.239
<v Speaker 6>I've been worried. You know, there's all my sweatshirts all

758
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:49.800
<v Speaker 6>the time, and I'm like, i have to wear makeup.

759
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.199
<v Speaker 4>So it was it's.

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00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:55.760
<v Speaker 6>I think having that launch team ahead of time and

761
00:39:56.239 --> 00:40:01.159
<v Speaker 6>helping with kind of have some back up and getting

762
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:03.960
<v Speaker 6>yourself out there is a big deal. So people are

763
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:05.159
<v Speaker 6>aware of your book.

764
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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, thanks so much for sharing. And I think that.

765
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:11.519
<v Speaker 2>That's really about it, right, having people know what you're doing.

766
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:13.320
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's.

767
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Not helpful if you're using it for marketing to like

768
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:19.639
<v Speaker 2>announce it the week before the book comes out. There's

769
00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:21.559
<v Speaker 2>all sorts of things and maybe we'll do we'll do

770
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:23.320
<v Speaker 2>a thing on that, and we talk about that a lot,

771
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Like I talk about that a lot in terms of

772
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:27.639
<v Speaker 2>marketing and pre and I know Leslie right now. You

773
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 2>can follow Leslie and she'd like day this and day that,

774
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:32.480
<v Speaker 2>and she's on our way to the Oscars and she's

775
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:34.199
<v Speaker 2>doing her thing, and we're talking about it as much

776
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:36.760
<v Speaker 2>as we can, and keeping the process alive and people

777
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:40.360
<v Speaker 2>engaged in what you're doing, and letting people cheer you on,

778
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:43.000
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, and then really owning that

779
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.480
<v Speaker 2>you've created something that only three percent in the world

780
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:48.800
<v Speaker 2>do how many people want to versus how many people do.

781
00:40:49.039 --> 00:40:51.840
<v Speaker 2>So for any of you listeners out there are viewers

782
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:53.519
<v Speaker 2>that are watching that are thinking that you have a

783
00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:56.320
<v Speaker 2>book inside you, we encourage you to start digging in that,

784
00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:59.559
<v Speaker 2>maybe start writing about you wanting to write, you know,

785
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.400
<v Speaker 2>reaching out. I think that's very important. I don't say

786
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:04.960
<v Speaker 2>that because I do it. In terms of getting support

787
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.159
<v Speaker 2>around a book launch, but it's very important. It makes

788
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:10.639
<v Speaker 2>a difference between success and you know it's going to

789
00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:13.679
<v Speaker 2>make a difference in your numbers. Absolutely everything that we

790
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:17.119
<v Speaker 2>do is a marketing piece if you're using it, if

791
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:19.559
<v Speaker 2>you're doing it for anything other than just your personal development.

792
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:21.280
<v Speaker 2>You want to put a book on the market because

793
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:23.719
<v Speaker 2>it was part of something that's your sole therapy. I

794
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:25.239
<v Speaker 2>call you know what I mean, where you don't really

795
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:26.800
<v Speaker 2>care if anyone reads it. You wanted to make that

796
00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:29.599
<v Speaker 2>children's book, you wanted to make that movement, and you

797
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:31.760
<v Speaker 2>wrote it because it was important for you to check

798
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:33.519
<v Speaker 2>off your list. It was a soul, it was a

799
00:41:33.519 --> 00:41:36.239
<v Speaker 2>sole thing. But most people are writing books to help

800
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.440
<v Speaker 2>people get seen, get heard, and that is part of

801
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:42.880
<v Speaker 2>the launch, right and very different than the energy of

802
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:46.480
<v Speaker 2>writing the book. So people can contact us for information

803
00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:48.960
<v Speaker 2>like that. Kathy, you have a few things.

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00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:52.800
<v Speaker 3>To Yeah, I just want to plod leslie her Facebook

805
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:56.639
<v Speaker 3>Live process about writing the book. I'm trying to get

806
00:41:56.719 --> 00:42:00.320
<v Speaker 3>up the courage to do all this facebok live. I'm

807
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:04.719
<v Speaker 3>practicing a little bit because those have been phenomenal. I've

808
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:08.880
<v Speaker 3>just really to me, they're a joy, They're entertaining, but

809
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:11.400
<v Speaker 3>they're also joyful because I see the joy in you

810
00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:12.320
<v Speaker 3>in doing it.

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00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:13.719
<v Speaker 4>Also a little bit of the.

812
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:18.199
<v Speaker 3>Stress, but you just seem so happy about what you're accomplishing.

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00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:20.920
<v Speaker 7>So congratulations on the Facebook lives.

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00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thank you so much.

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00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Awesome. So look at follow us into sixty two. All

816
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.079
<v Speaker 2>of these ladies are going to have their information in

817
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:34.880
<v Speaker 2>the show notes. You're going to be able to contact them.

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00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Follow Leslie the book. You know we're going to be

819
00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:42.000
<v Speaker 2>when this show goes. These ladies are going to be

820
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:44.559
<v Speaker 2>further along in their process. Carol, we're going to have

821
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:47.119
<v Speaker 2>her information about her book. Carol's also been part of

822
00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:51.239
<v Speaker 2>fifteen collaboratives, so she has good experience on both sides.

823
00:42:51.920 --> 00:42:53.079
<v Speaker 2>If you want to be in a book, you know

824
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:55.719
<v Speaker 2>where we are, right you know where we are. We

825
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:57.760
<v Speaker 2>have space in our two sixty two book to hear

826
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:00.320
<v Speaker 2>your story if you are a self funding woman, and

827
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:02.800
<v Speaker 2>we have all sorts of incredible projects going on, and

828
00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I know of many people that have incredible projects that

829
00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:08.400
<v Speaker 2>are going on that are maybe doing a book that

830
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:10.079
<v Speaker 2>you're more aligned with, you know what I mean? And

831
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<v Speaker 2>I just put two guys together yesterday because he's in

832
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:17.840
<v Speaker 2>rockbusting right on, right on, right, But we're here to

833
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:20.760
<v Speaker 2>celebrate with you and please come join us on the Summits.

834
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:22.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, these are standups, speak up and show up,

835
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:25.039
<v Speaker 2>and they are for women and those that support women.

836
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.159
<v Speaker 2>So that's everybody, that's all of you out there. Come

837
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<v Speaker 2>on and see and you will see a lot of authors.

838
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:32.559
<v Speaker 2>You will see a lot of people doing a lot

839
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.519
<v Speaker 2>of really cool things that take bravery, just like authoring does.

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00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.199
<v Speaker 2>And so if you have, you know, if you have

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00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:39.800
<v Speaker 2>a book that you want to talk about, come do

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<v Speaker 2>it on the summit. If you have a book withinside

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<v Speaker 2>you and you need some support, we're here to help

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<v Speaker 2>cheer you on, and as always we just love and

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<v Speaker 2>endore you. Thank you so much for being an inspirational audience, ladies,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for joining us today and sharing more insight

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<v Speaker 2>into your project. We're looking for international best selling status

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<v Speaker 2>over and over and over and over again for you

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<v Speaker 2>and we know you'll have it. And congratulations for braving

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<v Speaker 2>up taking your first book launch to the to the oscars. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know they're gonna get dressed up, Carol, You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like if you're going to go go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, like, if you're gonna you

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<v Speaker 2>have a little fear, might as well do a big one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like doing a half shot of tequila.

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<v Speaker 2>Forget it, do the you know, take the full blast.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't go for it, and we will see you

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<v Speaker 2>again here next week at Mission Accepted podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>And before we go, I think really quickly, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>on a trip, your book's finished, you've had multiple launches,

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, give me the dakery, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go on a vacation and I'm taking one suitcase and

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<v Speaker 2>I can take one album, one only one. What song

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<v Speaker 2>singer or you know, musician do you want to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from when you when you land on that private island, Kathy, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Would probably say, right now, there's a song Confident that

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<v Speaker 3>I really really listen to because it just it's celebrate,

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<v Speaker 3>it's celebratory. And where would I go? I would probably

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<v Speaker 3>not go to a beach.

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<v Speaker 7>I would go to Ireland.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you're going to Ireland and you're listening celebratory Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And Leslie, I gotta go with my girl Lizzo.

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<v Speaker 4>It's about damn time, Right.

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<v Speaker 2>About dan time by Lizzo and Carol.

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<v Speaker 6>Carol King Tapestry Desert island.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, you're a theme. Okay, ladies, thank you for joining

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<v Speaker 2>us audience. Thank you, we'll see you next week. And

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<v Speaker 2>until we see you again, you'll be well and you

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<v Speaker 2>stay groovy.