Speaker 1: I made a decision pace sunny sound on ahead of vision.
It's nice.
Speaker 2: Hey all you fox sticks. We love you guys, Welcome
to our show.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like we're stealing a little bit from
Mark Maren, you know, who used to always hey, fuck
tears or whatever. Fuckers. But hey, he's not doing his
show anymore. So someone's gotta.
Speaker 2: When we've been, you know, saying it for a long time,
we really have. We've been abusing our audience for a
while now.
Speaker 1: Is it possible that Mark stole it from us? I mean,
who knows. I'm not saying, look right, could be, could be?
Could be? Yeah, we got we have an embarrassment of
riches today. Yeah, we got lots to talk about, a
lot to talk about. It is crazy, how I'm you
know what, I'm gonna group you in here at our ages.
Lots of stuff still happens, you know, when you think
it's slowing down. Yeah, I was just.
Speaker 2: Gonna say, even when you think not much is happening,
stuff goes down out of the blue.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also, you know, me living without the kids in
the house, you know, I think, oh, it's gonna be
a boring week, but then you get a phone call
from one of your kids crying, Hey, mom, can you.
Speaker 1: Come down to Santa Barbara. I really need my mom
and bring Phil. She said, bring Phil. Yeah, she wants
me to bring Phil. She loves Phil.
Speaker 2: Now now that she's had space, they've had time apart,
she really appreciates him.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 2: Like sometimes she gets upset if he doesn't go and
greet her, like he's like, she's like when my chop
liver because when I come home, he runs. When Sunny
comes home, he runs. When she walks in, he lays
on the floor.
Speaker 1: And he just thumbumbumb. He gives her like a couple thumps,
like hi with the tail. Well, maybe Natalia needs to
sit down with Phil and like make some amends for
yes early days and like treating you know, worrying too
much about Phil smell right and and you know, yeah,
and they need to like rebuild some trust.
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I think they're they're on the right path,
especially after last night. Yeah, So I get this phone
call from Natalia. I kind of already knew, so she's
been Natalia has not had a boyfriend really since high school,
like a serious boyfriend. But there's this group of people
that she's been hanging out with, and one of them
is the guy friend. They were all really she was
good friends with him last year, but apparently over the
last few months, especially during the Christmas break, they got
really close and they started dating and she was really
like like, you know, liking him, and he said, you know,
let's be exclusive and she's like yeah. And so that's
only been a few months now that they've been exclusive.
So she calls me the other day and she said
she had a you know, a great night with him.
Speaker 1: He took her out to dinner.
Speaker 2: He was saying how much like he loves her and
how happy he is, and they're both and she's like same,
you know.
Speaker 1: And they had a really nice night.
Speaker 2: And then the next night they all go out as
a group like you do in school, and they went
to some like some party, and she caught him, like
he was really pretty drunk, and she caught him, uh
like talking really close to a girl and like touching
her and stuff, like a little too close for comfort.
And she walked up to him and she's like, let's going,
you know, hey, hello, and he turns to her and
he goes, We're done.
Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore. You deserve better. I gotta
let you go. We're done in front of a girl, Yeah, yeah,
oh hell no.
Speaker 2: And that's what Natalia said. And she's so strong. She's
not how I was at that age. I would have
been a heap of tears crying we're done. Yeah, out
of nowhere, out of nowhere. I don't want to do
this anymore. We're done. You deserve better something like that.
Speaker 1: What is always up with the you deserve better? Right now?
I mean, like it's the last thing. Obviously I do
deserve that, But like that doesn't let you off. You
don't get to act like a shithole right because you
said you deserve just it's just me, it's just my
bad personality. Act. Give me a break. Fuckhead.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So she was really sad and upset, and I've
never really seen Natalia sad over a guy.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Yeah, and well, I'm referring
to a patreon, But part of the patreon was that
she was feeling very emotional. Do you think there was
some side Do you think that she fell something was off?
She said she was blindsided. This was out of the blue.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, and her roommates were there last night when
we were talking about it, so I'll tell you what happened.
So so, so she was really sad and upset, and
you know, I said, well, you know, call me anytime,
blah blah blah. And then the day went by. Then
Sunday came and she called me like noon on Sunday, uh,
crying and like I'm you know, I want I was,
I wish I could come home, but I can. I'm
school in the morning, but can you come up. It's Sunday.
We always make Sunday dinner. Can you come up and
make dinner? Everybody make dinner for everybody. But basically she's like, well,
because also it was so late in the day by
the time I was going to get there, it was
going to be close to dinner time anyway.
Speaker 1: And she's like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, she missed Phil. She wanted me to bring Phil.
And so I was like, okay, sure, you know, so
I drive up there. Phil in the back, you know,
hanging out and you do.
Speaker 1: On long car rides. He's totally fine.
Speaker 2: He takes up the whole back seat and just snores
all way, like he doesn't I forget he's back there sometimes. Yeah,
So we drove up and it's Sunday, not bad traffic.
My car was charged to one hundred percent, which I
didn't think it charged that high, but I it was
at one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: The thing about these cars is they don't like you
to charge to one hundred percent. They're like, can you
please not right? You just do eighty yeah, And you're like,
well what if we just do eighty five? And the
cars like, I mean, okay this time, but like in
the future, just go to eighty. And then you're like, well,
I'm sorry, but this one time, I am going to
one hundred. And they're like, oh, that's not Yeah, you're
gonna get punish later. You'll see. You'll see we have
a surprise for you, right right, go ahead, no right,
charge charge two hundred. Yeah. Yeah, we'll see you as
the upper hand exactly. I'll tell you about that.
Speaker 2: So anyway, so I get up there and we talk
a little bit more about it, and so.
Speaker 1: You bring Phil in?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bring phill in and I drop Phil off.
So I go to the grocery store because I'm going
to make lamb chops. Is the quickest, fastest thing to
make and the easiest. So and now she's got like
eight people coming for dinner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, suddenly you're a caterer. I know.
Speaker 2: So now all of a sudden, she's like, besides, did
you choose? So I just went and I got like
pre made mashed potatoes and stuff like that perfect. Huh
made the salad, well, she made the salad, got some
like cheese and crackers and stuff, and so the lamb
chops super easy, and so I dropped.
Speaker 1: So they take Phil for a walk while I go.
Speaker 2: To this store, which was nice, and then we watched
the Grammys and it was a really nice night. And
then you know, we're talking for a long time with
her roommates, hanging out, and then you know, of course
doing the dishes, she helped me.
Speaker 1: They all helped me clean up. But by the time
I left, it was probably like ten Okay, well wait,
you skipped over the part about this shithole guy.
Speaker 2: Oh she when I by the time I got there,
we talked a little bit about it, and then she
said the next day he was fucked up. He was
like calling her off the hook when he actually went
to her house to see her, and all of her
friends were there and like told him, like, now she
doesn't want to see you.
Speaker 1: I mean, the first thing I thought was like, he's
going to sober up and yeah, be like and that's
what happened. Yeah, probably said he didn't remember.
Speaker 2: I don't know about he said he fucked up, he
was drunk, he didn't mean it. He wants to talk
to her, and she's at this point has blocked him
and doesn't want to talk to him. And I'm like,
are you You're not going to get back together, are you?
Because this is a dick move. If this guy can
do this, just you know, I told her, you know,
when they show you who they are, believe it. If
he does that, if he did this one time, you know,
he could do it again. So don't I just don't
like that. And I just fuck that And she said no,
I'm I don't. I don't want to, And her roommates
are like she already has other guys, like like, well,
if you don't, you fucked up, dude, I'm going after her.
But she's like, I don't want to. I don't not
seeing anybody. I'm not interested in that. But she's like,
I don't. I definitely don't want to talk to him.
We'll see how these kids go, though, you know it
is at nineteen, you know, you say that and you
think you're strong, and then you get a text or whatever.
Speaker 1: A big problem though, is that he did that because
he was talking to another girl. It would be one
thing if he was having some if he was feeling
scared or like scared of commitment, or it was getting
too much, or he'd you know, a bit off more
than he could chew and had whatever. It could be
if you got scared. But you don't do that because
you're just flirting. You just want to get with another girl,
right exactly. I mean that I don't care if you're
drunk speaking as a drunk, Yeah, when drunk talking about
another drunk like that behavior is not coming from fear.
It's just coming from like you're an asshole. It's part
of your personality that's in there, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and you know, and so she's she's just
she didn't really want to talk that much about it
because she was enjoying the night. But that's pretty much
all I got from it. And so we'll see, we'll
see if she stays strong. But she seems pretty strong.
She's not like how I was at all at her
age when I was her age, I would have been
a heap of tears, like, oh, okay, he wants to talk
to me, let him come in, you know her She's
just like, fuck, you hit the bricks.
Speaker 1: So so you get So the important part of this story, though,
is you get to Santa Barbara. Now what percent are
you at?
Speaker 2: So okay, So I get to Santa Barbara and I'm
at fifty percent. Oh, because by the time I go
the grocery store and come back and.
Speaker 1: Stuff, it's about fifty percent. Still, that means you're going
to drive home on fifty percent. See, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I am traumatized because when I very first got the
Tesla years and years ago, like in the first few months,
I didn't understand really, like what does that mean?
Speaker 1: Thirty percent left and stuff.
Speaker 2: I was on my way home at night on the
two ten freeway in the dark, and the thing just
turned into a phone just went blank and I just
cruised to the side of the road and I had
to get it towed.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right, that sucked.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I don't want to do and fills
in the car, you know. So I leave at like
ten ten thirty and now okay, So instead of the percentage.
I'm looking and it says it kept it fluctuated, but
basically what it kept saying is, I have, you know,
one hundred miles to go, but you have about nine
you have one hundred and ten one hundred and twenty
percent of miles in the in the car. So it
says minimum maximum miles, and it was always ten. It
was pretty much consistent with it being ten miles extra.
So by the time I got home.
Speaker 1: The problem is, which I know you will agree with
me one hundred percent, is now that I'm in the
electric game, yeah, all in the problem is that when
you go below fifty percent, suddenly they're big liars and
they'll go like, oh, you have one hundred and ten
miles to go, and you'll drive one mile and they'll
be like, you've got ninety miles to go, and you're like,
what happened? I know, I know, I just drove one mile.
I know for a fact. Yeah, and they're like, I
don't know, Yes, I don't know, but you still have ninety, right,
And then you drive like three more miles and they're like,
you have fifty miles to go, and you're like, oh
my god, I'm gonna run out again. I'm run out
on my way home, break into my house.
Speaker 2: And also the percentage kept going down quicker, right, and
it was like, now I'm at thirty percent and.
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still a like forty five hour away.
Speaker 2: Then it was like, now you're at twenty percent, twenty
five percent, and I'm like, oh my god, what is happening?
Speaker 1: Call Mike Kirstein like I did last time. You've been
driving an electric car longer than almost anybody. I know.
That's hilarious that you call somebody else. Cause my with
the Tesla was easy because I know where I can go.
Speaker 2: With the Tesla, it shows you. This car doesn't show
you where the closest charging station is. Plus, I know
I have a thing a connector that I could use
a Tesla charging station. However, I've tried that before. Remember
it didn't work. So now I'm like, oh, so Mike knows.
Speaker 1: Where I can.
Speaker 2: He can see where I am, so he can find
He's on my find my friends.
Speaker 1: We long time ago, and he's still there, so he
sees where I am.
Speaker 2: Mike knows Los Angeles County better, like like it's the
back of his hand, right, He's like, I know exactly
where you are. He's like, okay, he's like, there's a
charging station. First of all, he's telling me you can
make it. You're gonna make it. You know it's it's
what is it saying? I tell him what it's. He's like,
you're gonna be fine. I go, no, I don't think so.
Then I go, okay, Okay, I'm gonna go for it.
Call him back like half hour later.
Speaker 1: No, I'm scared. I don't think I'm gonna mater do
it now. Oh Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: So, like I'm getting into the San Fernando Valley, He's like, okay,
get off at Resida, tells me there's a charging station.
It takes me into the like hospital, into like a
hospital parking lot.
Speaker 1: I'm like, where's the chart. He goes, it's right there.
He goes, turn around. I go.
Speaker 2: If I turn around, I'm going to run my car
into the lobby of the emergency room.
Speaker 1: The problem, too, is that if you go to like okay,
because now you're near the Ralphs where I used to
go charge, Yes, but that Ralph's always it's always like
eight deep the line, so you're gonna run out of
went into that yes, there's only like four them, right, yes, yeah.
So I went to the hospital, couldn't find it, and
I go, I'm getting out of here, and he goes, okay,
there's more. There's more, go go, go, get get to
the routs. So I get to Raufs. That's that's your rouse.
So there was like you right now, okay, it was
eleven o'clock at night. By the time I got to
that Ralphs, all of them are are full. Always what
the fuck? That's why, honest, Sunday night, we have to
get a charger at our house. This is ridiculous. It's
like in and out, but for electric cars. Yes, it's
there's in and out. Was a line, there was a lot.
There's always a line. It doesn't matter what time it is.
There's like people wanting to charge their cars.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't get it. It's it's Sunday night at eleven, like,
come on people. And there was a guy in front
of me waiting. So then he goes, okay, he goes,
there's another gas station where there's one charging station.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, and then he goes, well, I
really do think you have enough to get home? I
go okay, and I read them what it said again
and I was like, I'm going for it, and I
went for it. And it's going down ten percent, nine percent,
eight percent. And it's like now it's down to four
percent and I'm right on the two ten right where
my car died last time.
Speaker 1: Is it flashing at you? Is the oh yeah, it's
going it's charge up yet it's saying you're on reserve,
go charge your car, right, And I'm like, yeah, I know, motherfucker,
I'm trying. No, reserve should be like below zero, it
should go to zero and then go okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So you're gonna give you yeah, now's have the talk.
I will not be ignored.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So and it's like it's down, it's going down. Now
I'm getting close to home and it's like at two percent.
I pull into the driveway. Wow, yeah made it two percent?
Speaker 1: I know? Crazy? Yeah, how's that? That is scary?
Speaker 2: I know people are like, what's with Lyne in this
fucking electric car?
Speaker 1: Does seem crazy though? Okay, because next week we're going
to record on a different day. Guys, might you guys
might get your show. Maybe we'll record on Sunday. And
then I can get a free done super Bowl. Oh
you're right, yeah, but we could record in the morn
now because they're going to probably have a party here.
Oh yeah, Well then we're gonna have to the show
is gonna have to be late. We're gonna have to
record on a Tuesday, and that posted late. But anyway,
that's neither here nor there. The point is I'm driving
to San Diego and I need to drive the electric car. Okay,
I would drive the Prius because it does great on
gas and it would save me the headache. But that's
the car that Sadie drives, So then she'll be without
a car. She won't be able to drive herself to school, right,
I mean she she could. Did she take your car?
I mean she's just not used to it. And I
want you to take the electric car. I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to know how you do. By the way,
there's probably charging stations at the universe.
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. I'm going to go to a hotel,
so I probably just go there and then just I'm
sure there's a charger out there is but I've never
even used the charger that comes with the car. Do
you know what I mean? Like, I, oh, no, you would,
just I would have an attachment.
Speaker 2: Probably, Well they if you go to the right chargings,
like the EV charging stations.
Speaker 1: Right, you don't need an attachment, Oh you don't. No,
you just plug it into your car and it should
be fine.
Speaker 2: M but bring the attachments just in case. But yeah,
they're in the car if I needed it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, so I'll drive there and then I'll
just be able to charge. But I'm already thinking, like,
I'll charge up two one hundred and then I'll drive
there and then I yeah, I'm sure I'll just charge
up because San Diego, I believe, is further than Santa Barbara.
Yeah it is. Yeah, it's like a four hour drive.
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Speaker 2: Everything was fine, but yeah, got to bed really late
by the time I got home. Feed Phil, take him
out for a little walk, stretch his legs after being
in the car. Yeah, it was a long night.
Speaker 1: I know, with his arthritis, it's probably a little bit
hard to be in a car that long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good passenger though he really doesn't talk much,
just kind of keeps to himself in the back.
Speaker 1: You don't feel like you have to just listen to
a podcast to like tune him out. Sorry, I got something,
I'm listening to something. Yeah, No, No, he does his
own thing in the back seat. Yeah, he's good. You
don't have to go. I want to hear this story,
but let.
Speaker 2: Me just let me just finish this podcast. And he's
not like a back seat driver, you know, he doesn't
go slow down.
Speaker 1: Like me.
Speaker 2: Speaking of slowing down too though, when you're trying to
reserve your back Uh. For me, it's so hard because
it's like Mike's like, just go like fifty five sixty,
you know, don't try not to go over sixty. I
might as well get out and walk. Like anybody with
an electric car knows. I feel that feels really slow,
right right, yeah, just especially on these highways, these long
stretch Yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I made it. My car's all charged up.
Now you're bonded with your girl. Yes, you did the
right thing. Yeah, she was really really happy. They were
all so happy. I came. They're really cute for friends.
It's nice when you feel like, you know, I don't know.
It sounds like Natalia is strong, and it's nice when
you feel like you can see the resilience. I love
that about her, Yeah, I really do. I mean, I
don't know if I'll ever get over Elbie's breakup. That
was like I literally have some PTSD from that. Yeah,
from her laying on the floor scream crying, going why
why I don't understand? Was like, I don't know if
I'll ever get that image. I mean, I'm sure Elb's like,
oh what what breakup? Yeah, I'm like, you don't remember. Yeah.
I felt it's traumatizing for us as moms.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want them to feel that heartbreak. And
for me, I've never heard an Italian be so upset
over a guy.
Speaker 1: You know. She was like.
Speaker 2: Everything was going great. I don't understand what happened, So
it's really it's tough.
Speaker 1: God. I mean, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to
think if I've ever been completely blindsided the guy that
I was living with, that the only other real true
relationship I had besides John. I wasn't blind side. I
already felt like he was being distant and I was
suspecting possible cheating. But remember that story about how the
phone rang at like six in the morning and I
answered it and the woman was like, can I speak
to Brad? And I was like, what the fuck? And
then I was like, oh my god, I've just caught
this motherfucker cheating and I remember how it felt to
this day, like I remember how hot my face felt
and how angry I was, and I was like, it's
for you, you know. And then I just sat there
and listened, like, really, mother, you better have the best
explanation for this. And then his explanation was horrible, because no,
he wasn't cheating, but he was planning, had been plotting
a move, remember because it was a job, saying that
he I think they were hiring him. I don't know.
But when he got off the phone and I was
like I was, I was like, oh the fuck was
and he was like it's not what you think. It
was like out of a movie and he was like, uh,
I sent him this application to this job in Italy.
That's right, that guy. That guy, yeah, the guy who
Then I started his car up for him once wee
I know, that's the best. He left his car there
and he asked you to start it up once a week.
I went into some serious denial. I was just like, Okay,
we're young. He just wants to have adventures. It's like
freakin' Mormons would have been married and like had kids
by that time. Like he wasn't that young. Yeah, he
was twenty six and I was twenty seven. Right, you're
not a baby. Ye're not nineteen, like out of high school,
Like you've lived some life already. You know, you wouldn't
know if you want to be with me. But he
was very like, no, no, no, I love you. In
his defense, he did not say like I want to
be engaged to you. He was like, I just don't know.
I don't know how I feel, but I need to go,
and still being sided. I was blindsided by that. And
then he acted super loving. He'd already been acting very
weird and distant. Then he acted very loving for the
next couple months. He first he pretended it wasn't a
done deal, and I was like, I let myself believe that, like,
I don't know, maybe this will happen, but probably not.
I mean, what are the chances he's going to move
to Italy? Well, the chances were about one hundred percent
I think about a full car battery percent. Yes, because
he'd already been planning it. He did that phone call
I believe was like confirming things, not like I don't know.
So it turned out that he was absolutely going. He'd
already gone to get a passport. Remember that story. Oh yeah,
he got to get a passport with Brooke Shields's now husband.
Oh he's guy Chris Hensche who was Brad's best friend
at the time. Oh wow. And then he claimed I
saw the passport come in the mail before this phone
call happened. Uh huh. I was like, why did you
get it? You went and got a passport and I
didn't know about this. And he was like, oh my god,
Chris was going to get a passport and I just
decided to drive along.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Oh yes, he's Ane's gonna go get a passport.
Speaker 1: Hey, can I go with you? Yes? And nothingnounced to
do you know, Yeah, you somehow got together all those
important documents about any kind of like just for fun,
why not? Yeah, go wait in line. So I was like,
but of course I let myself believe it because I
was madly in love. I thought I was going to
marry this guy. So I was like, I mean, I
guess he's going to get about, you know, doing a
ride along with his friend. Okay, Then the phone call
thing happened. Then I was still like believing what he said.
Then he acted super loving and like went back to
being how he was at the beginning of the relationship.
For the next two months, he was like waking up
every morning going, oh my god, I love you so much,
like so sweet, having great sex, you know. Right then
he left for the airport. Cried at the airport. We
talked about him coming back and three he was going
to go for six months. We talked about him coming
back in three months or me going there in three
months to visit. Uh huh. Then I promptly like just
never heard from him again, remember, and I was freaking out,
Oh my god, did something happen to him? I guess
this was before this was before cell phones. Yeah, that's
not long ago. Oh yeah, there are no cell phones.
So I had to wait for him. But I was like,
surely he'll call me from a payphone or his well, no,
he was starting the job there, He'll call me from work, right, No. Nothing.
Then he finally called me, and then of course I'm crying. Immediately,
I'm like what happened? Like where have you been? And
he was immediately annoyed and like, oh my god, like
I just got to my job, like relax right put
out that. Then I was like, I have to be
able to hear from you, and he's like, well, I
don't have a phone. I don't know if I'm going
to be able to call you from my office. He
was living at an apartment though with another guy who
had a phone, but I think it was he was like,
I can't really use his phone to call international, Okay,
So I sort of bought you know what I mean.
It was like, yeah, those things where I kept being like,
then finally it finally, like a month into it, I
was like, this guy does not love me. It took
a while, maybe like a couple of weeks, but I
was like, he doesn't call me right, he doesn't sound
interested in talking to me when we're on the phone.
But there was a disconnect between how he'd acted. I
had a vision of him crying at the airport that
to this was like these two things are not Matt. Yeah,
so I guess you could say I was kind of blindsided.
And then I said I don't feel like you love me,
Like can you say that you love me? Can you
do you miss me? Do you feel like you can't
live without me?
Speaker 2: And then there was silence, but can you start my car?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? And can you send me. He started
asking me to slowly like send him things. That's right,
I want to say that the band there was a CD.
He was going to say, what news.
Speaker 2: Or something that like was CDs or something like albums
or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yes, he wanted me to pack up some CDs for him.
They did, of course he did. I dutifully started his
car frohim and sent him CDs. But we were broken up.
Whatever happened to his car because remember I said, well
I think we should break up. Then, like if you
can't even say that you miss me, yeah, and he
was like I don't really want to break up and
I was like, well we are. We're breaking up. And
he did not argue my car. And then a week
later he called me and he was like, you know,
I really I'm so glad that you said it because
I think it's for the best, and like can you
still start my car though? And I was like okay,
and then like I did it for years? Wow, for
years I started his car.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And he's like, can you send me
my Rush CDs?
Speaker 1: Because I think I lived in that apartment yeah until
I moved in with John. Oh wow, wow, it's possible
that he came home and got his car. I don't
really remember now like that interesting, but that was the
saddest I've ever been. Yeah, I was like, I was
like lbie. Yeah, I was like crying in my apartment.
I remember just going like I will never feel better again.
I'll never get over this.
Speaker 2: Everybody, a women, especially have gone through that, Like I
remember with Adam. With Adam when he blindsided me, you know,
and then I stayed at Jimmy and Gina's house.
Speaker 1: So you thought, yeah, I mean we were gay about
this many times when he broke.
Speaker 2: Up with you the first we were living together and engaged. Yeah,
And I came home from work and I was in
a great mood. I opened the door and I went
to put my key in the door, and he opened
the door for me, and he was crying, Oh no,
And I'm like, what's going on? And he just blurted
out like I just I don't think I can get married,
ready to get married.
Speaker 1: And you deserve better. And I was like what.
Speaker 2: And I'm like on the ground crying and I'm gonna
throw up, like.
Speaker 1: So upset, I can't stay here, I gotta leave.
Speaker 2: Went over to Jimmy and Gina's for two weeks on
their couch and Jimmy going ah, comes home one night,
I'm still crying.
Speaker 1: Remember what he said?
Speaker 2: He goes, oh with the crying, you're still crying. He's
like enough enough already. He's like he's not that great,
and I remember thinking, wow, he is kind of right.
Speaker 1: He isn't that great. But when okay, so when he's like,
I can't do this anymore. And did he say at
that point like I just I think I need to
date other people or was he just like I'm not ready?
He didn't. Yeah, he just said I'm not ready and
we have to break up. But then afterwards, like the
next day, did he try to call and make it better. No,
he stuck to it. He's stuck to his guns. So
you don't even get this set. You didn't even get
the satisfaction, no of getting to be like, no, you
said you wanted to.
Speaker 2: Break up right now, I didn't get to do that. Yeah, no,
it was uh. And then it was like nine months until.
Speaker 1: He well, like the whole time during those nine months,
he wasn't like, let's get let can we go have
coffee so we can talk or no, he was basically
he wouldn't.
Speaker 2: He didn't talk to me for a long time, but
then I eventually he was.
Speaker 1: Lire like, can't sleep, can't eat.
Speaker 2: No, I couldn't sleep, can eat, lost a lot of weight.
I would go into my office at ABC. Sorry, I'm
trying to turn the air on. There we go get
a kick on. Yeah, I don't hear it, so.
Speaker 1: It's just on quiet. It's okay, okay. I would go
into my by the way too.
Speaker 2: I was working at ABC, and I'd go into my
boss's office and Wendell Foster, God bless him, and he
would he.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't even look. He wouldn't even look.
Speaker 2: He'd be looking at his computer, and I'd walk in crying,
and he'd take his clean Xbox and just chuck it
at me.
Speaker 1: And I'd just sit on his couch crying and cry.
And he always had the TV on, and he always
had it on Comedy Central, and it was like, I'm
in there crying. It's like Man Show Wednesdays at eight. Oh,
my fucking come in and he's like, oh, like grabs
the remote. Yeah. I was miserable.
Speaker 2: Finally, towards the end of those like nine months, he well,
he did help. He did come over and build out
a like closet in my condo when I bought my condo.
So he did do that. Oh, so he came over,
but then he didn't want to give me. He didn't
want to give me any riot mode. He didn't want
to give me any false you know, prace. Yeah, So
he did come over a few times, and then I
went I remember I went to Mike Gerstein's wedding in
Idaho and I was in the wedding party and I
just got back and he out of the blue called
me and I told him I was at another wedding
out of town.
Speaker 1: And then he was like, well, what are you doing
on Friday?
Speaker 2: Maybe we can have I can pick up some Thai
food and come over and we can watch Boy Meets World,
which is what we used to like watch the ABC
Friday night lineup.
Speaker 1: Were you like, what does this mean? Is he like
did you call your friends or did you know? Oh?
Speaker 2: I had a feeling that he wanted to have one
foot in the door a little bit, but not because
he came to my house. If he really wanted to
like get back to I would have gone to his
house and probably spent the night. But he so he
came to my house so he could leave, not give
me any false hopes. But it just but it Eventually.
I didn't even bring it up after that. Then he
started coming over and we were starting to date again,
but I never said, are you gonna want to get married?
Eventually I did, but not right away. I just let
it breathe.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm gonna take this day by day,
step bade, how did you do that? It was hard?
Did you guys sleep together again? Like? Yeah, first the
first night he came over the world, No, no, did
he try? No? I don't think so. No, God, how confused.
It was confusing. But I was like, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: If he went from not wanting to talk, you know,
giving me my space to you know, coming like around
a little bit, and I was like okay, okay, because
you know, I was still in love.
Speaker 1: And I was like, did it become a regular thing
really quickly? Or was it was it like once a
week or did he calling you every day?
Speaker 2: Then it became yeah, he was calling me every day,
and then it was like on the weekends we saw
each other and I was we were sleeping together, and
then that one.
Speaker 1: Do you have to just train your brain? Did you
have to just go? I had a good therapist pssure him.
Speaker 2: Oh really and really because I had to get one
because that breakup.
Speaker 1: I was like I need a therapist.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's when I had that really great therapist. Was your
therapist like girl dangerous?
Speaker 2: She was like she's the one, and was like take
everything step by, you know, just let let it breathe
and see what happens. And then yeah, and then he
started coming over more and more, and then we got
back together and then I think it was months months later,
going like, oh, do.
Speaker 1: You still want to get married? He said that With that,
I said, I asked him, but do you still want
to get married? Like and he was like yeah, he goes,
I think after when the Man Show is done, then
we can plan a wedding, which was another year or something. Oh.
I was like, oh okay, So he didn't officially propose again. No,
that was that. Yeah, you know, something should have been
signs right right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, when it's convenient for me, then we'll get married.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So then after a year, did you have to
go so the Man Show's over? No?
Speaker 2: Because then he was all in, like he was like,
all right, we start playing in a wedding.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, fucking men, I know, I know, but yeah,
I mean, like I said, I feel like everybody's had
their hearp. I remember when Jimmy blindsided Gina wasn't really
a blind side. They weren't happy, but she was miserable
and crying all the time and upset all the time,
lost a ton of weight.
Speaker 2: So you know, I've had girlfriends have gone through it.
Everybody's had their heartbreak.
Speaker 1: I know. I worry about LB though, because the first
one is can be. I mean, that's just feels brutal
and now like she's not so much as dated somebody
since high school. Now, yeah, maybe because she's so picky,
but I think she's also now scared of not wanting
to have that feel about feeling again. Yeah, so she
doesn't let herself even really like anybody. Right, Honestly, I
feel like all my kids are like that. Yeah, they
don't want to. I don't know what where they get
that from. I mean, I guess I was kind of
like that too. I mean I didn't have my first
real boyfriend until I was twenty six. Yeah, twenty six
to twenty seven was before that. I never had an
actual somebody that I would consider a real boyfriendly friend.
I have like little mini relationships. I'd be dating people,
but I was always either finding something wrong with them
or pining for a guy that wasn't that into me. Yes,
I was doing the same thing. So I'd be dating them,
but I would feel insecure because I'd feel like we
weren't really like what is this? You know what I mean? Yeah,
And then as soon as they'd be I mean, yeah, yeah,
because I had a few boyfriends in between that guy
Brad and John. But like net, I would get I
would get the ick. Even once we were like, okay,
this is my boyfriend, if I felt like it was
too much, or I'd find that there was something wrong
that made me think like I'm never going to marry
this person, then I've had to break it off like immediately. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you didn't not, in like high school, have
like a boyfriend boyfriend.
Speaker 1: No, I had really painful crushes. Yes, I did too.
I had a boyfriend. Okay when I moved from La.
Oh my god, this is really just such a quick interjection.
I was listening to a podcast to the other I
was listening to like Dateline, and it took place in Chickapee,
mass And I thought of you because I was like,
did you hear that one I watched it? Yeah, okay,
And I was like, okay, talk about your own backyard,
because when I lived in Springfield and you heard they
talked about like the trial was in Springfield, Chickapee was
basically a neighborhood. There were a bunch of little neighbor
like Springfield, nobody lived in Springfield. They lived in neighborhoods.
Yet right, Chickapea was like one an area that was
really like ten minutes where I lived. Really, So it
was so funny because I was listening to and I
was like, oh, I'm all yours tell me Chickapee. Of
course I only lived there for a couple of years, but.
Speaker 2: That's so funny because I remember thinking, I like that
named Chickapee.
Speaker 1: That's a cute name for a little town. When I
was watching it. It's funny because in Granada Hills, like
near where Robin lives, Robin, there's streets are named the
same as that neighborhood, Chickapee. There's a street Chickapee. Oh
it's interesting. Yeah, that's isn't it?
Speaker 2: Great when they're right in your backyard, like the other documentary.
She lived at Sherman Way and Canoga Park. Yes, I
was like okay. And then there was the one you'll
remember this. We're going off topic here, but there was
the woman. She was a police officer and she got
killed by her like police officer boyfriend. And it happened
like literally in Lake Balboa. It happened right by where
you went to high school and where I live.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, that one was an apartment there. That was
one of the first times we started talking about how
now this is a podcast, Like, yeah, I drive by
that street every day exactly what they're talking about. Yes, yes, yeah,
I like the true crime. So when I first moved
to Springfield, I was in eleventh grade and then I
got a boyfriend. But right away I was like, oh no,
like he wants to watch he would this is how
guys did it in those days. It was like you meet.
I had a horrible, horrible crush on him. He had
a girlfriend, but I wasn't like the kind of I
wasn't trying to steal anybody's boyfriend. I literally was like,
oh my god, he's the most beautiful man. He's so cute,
so popular, like he'd never like me, but we had
talked in a bar in the summer, and then I
started going to school with him, and then I would
see him in the hall and be like his name
was Mike Saraanaki. I'd be like, oh my god, it
is Mike Sara Naki and could breathe. So then one time,
I think I told you this story. He looked into
the classroom and he waved to me, but I thought
he was waving to another guy, so I was just like,
looked at him or whatever. And then I came out
of class and he was waiting for me and he
was like, did you see me wave two or whatever?
And I was like, you're waving at me. He was
like yeah, and then he asked me out and I
was like, but but you're dating a Oh my god,
I feel bad saying Liz wrong, Collie R. You're dating
Lizron And he was like, no, we just broke up,
and I was like, you did, okay. So then I
went to a keg party with him, like god night,
and then we made out and then like the next
day he came and met me in front of all
my classes and wanted to like hold hands and walk
me to class. So then we the next weekend, we
went to a party and suddenly I was super popular
all of a sudden. It was like a movie. I've
told you this story. Then all of his friends, all
of Liz ron Colly's best friends, totally ditched her, and
we're like, okay, I guess you're our best friend. Now.
I think he was on the football team had to
a bin. So they all were like, we're all going
to the football game. We all went to the football game.
Then like the next thing was like a Valentine's Day
or something, and maybe he gave me like flowers, and
I was like, oh no, like I don't like you,
Like this is way too much. Oh really, I was like, well,
I never had a boyfriend before. Yeah, I only like
just would get drunk and make out with guys, right,
and now suddenly I had a boy I just didn't
know what to do with it. I did not I
lost feelings right away. I did not have the pining feeling.
I was like, oh no, I felt really stuff like pressured.
So I broke up with him. And then literally the
next day, none of those I've never talked to any
of those girls again.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's insane to his mistake. His fatal mistake was
getting you flowers.
Speaker 1: His fatal mistake was like trying to hold my hand
between every class.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's too much. Yeah, Cels women are too you know.
You just make a wrong move and then all of
a sudden you get the ack and you're out.
Speaker 1: But like, why couldn't I handle just having a boyfriend?
I know, Well, I think my home life was like
very Chao guarded. I think I think I was too.
Maybe that's why your kids are like that. Yeah, but
I'm not mean to my kids. No, but I mean, like,
you know, with having their guard up. I don't know.
Oh my god. Okay, now I just thought of another. Okay,
so I've got a I don't want to brag, but
I have a pretty killer Patreon. I can't wait. It's
kind of old school to like there's there's there's a
lot to it. It happened. It's a story that happened
at Xander's speech competition. So I just went to a
speech competition. I got to judge first of all. Okay,
so Xander, you know how he was doing his original
oratory last year and he had the whole speech at
about like toxic masculinity. So this time he did not
have time to write a speech because he's doing eight
hundred million other things. But you have to go to
at least one tournament before the state qualifiers, but you
can compete in any event. So he competed in improv
duos where you have a partner, and then they gave
it a situation. Yes, and guess what, he and his
partner came in first place. Wow, I sent you, I
sent you the news. Yeah. Yeah, yes, he looked so cute.
It looks so handsome. It's getting tall too, yeah it was.
I was so proud he didn't come in first place
and anything all last year he came in second two times. Yeah.
So here's how it went. End of the day, we're
sitting in the like the auditorium basically, and they bring
up the different events group by group. So for his event,
there were like fourteen, there were seve. Okay, it started
with fourteen, and then the finals went to seven of
them did the finals, and then they what they do
is places seven through four get a medal, and then
three through one get a trophy. So everybody gets like
one clap when there's seven Okay, in seventh place? Is
this duo? In sixth place? Is this duo? But when
I had talked to Xander after the finals, I was like,
how did it go? And he's like, honestly, I wouldn't
be surprised if, like we're in last place, which for
him would still be good. It would still have been
seventh place, you know. But he was like, I wouldn't
be surprised if we came in last, But then I
don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't, So
I don't know. Yeah, I went with no expectations. So
they go seventh place, and they always say the high
school first from blank blank High School, and then they
say the name, and so seventh place comes, it's not him.
So I'm like, well, he's not last, so he'll be
happy about that. Yeah. Then sixth comes, he's not in sixth.
Then fifth comes, he's not in fifth. Then fourth comes,
he's not in fourth, And then I was like, holy shit,
he's got a trophy, Like yeah, first speech tournament out right,
he's trophying third place. Not him? Wow, second place they
go from blank high school and it's his high school.
So I'm like, okay, well he got second place, Like
that's amazing, it's not him. Oh I didn't recognize that
the team that came in second was also went to
their high school, but it wasn't them. So that was
a double happiness because they say it the duo that
walks up is not them, and I got confused for
a minute, and then I was like, oh my god,
oh my god, he's the first place. And then wow,
he's very popular at these events. So people were already
like cheering and they said them, and then people went crazy.
I have a video of it. It was so cute.
Everybody lost their minds.
Speaker 2: Oh isn't that the greatest feeling? I freaking miss that.
That's awesome, so fun.
Speaker 1: It really really fills you up in the way that
it's so only watching your kids do something cool does
it's so cute. And then okay, so part of this
story involves it's going to involve another a dad in
the patriot on the Patreon part of this story. It's
a crazy story. I can't wait, and there's a dad involved,
but there's a suffice it to say there's a dad
involved who was really nice, who ended up telling me,
like giving telling me. He judged Xander and he was like,
oh my god, he was so funny. This guy's he
teaches drama at a high school. Ally he's the drama coach.
So he was he was like, he was so funny.
He's like the only problem was they went over time.
But I still but I gave them first place. That's great.
And I was like, oh my god, and he was like, honestly,
the thing they were doing, he was like, I could
totally see that being like a segment, being a recurring
characters on SNL. Really he should be really proud. So
it was like, oh my god, what was it? Would
you know what they did? What was there? So they
played German tour guides giving a tour of Disneyland in Germany,
but they were so specific because Xander's thing was trying
to like defend against his partner was being like really
doing propaganda like pro Germany propaganda to the tourists, right,
and he was trying to tone down the propaganda. But
it was the way they were describing it to me
was so funny. It is, but they did full on
German accents. That's I was just gonna say, that's insane. Yeah,
they played like floxa and so and so and then
and then this is so funny to me too. He
said that they had so much fun. They were making
each other laugh, which is so how I was in
high school with my friends. He said they were walking
around the competition to people pretending they were German exchange students,
to people that didn't know them. Really, he was like, mom,
it was so dumb. It is so Hillearian, and people
believing that we were from Germany really were from Germany.
And this girl that he was with is so fucking hilarious.
When he told me he was partnering with her, I
was like, oh my god, you guys are going to
do so well. She makes me laugh really hard. I've
seen her in plays and stuff, and he's like, she
does really good accents. So we just chose accents for
each one. Like one of them she was Irish, and
he was like, he goes, she does stuff, and I
feel like I just go along with it.
Speaker 2: I mean, German accent is hard. I know, how the
fuck do you even know how to how the accents go.
Speaker 1: I do not know or understand how you could do it.
That's insane. It's really great. So let's see, I have
one more little story. It's really fun doing it in
the senior year because I don't give a fuck. Yeah,
so I had this I was doing I was judging
this event. It doesn't really matter what it is. So
you get like six kids. It's when you're judging, it's
you plus just the kids, and there's nobody else usually
in the room with you. Oh, it's just you the
final round. So what happens is they have like a
first round, of second round, a third round, and then
if they break, remember that that means that they made
it to the finals. They scored high enough to go
to the finals. And then when you when you judge finals,
there's three judges in the room. I see okay, okay,
So then that's kind of fun because then you can
do your you have to rank them in order, and
then afterwards you can ask the other judges like would
you guys think you can discuss Yeah, but when it's
all the first rounds, preliminary rounds, it's just you and
the kids, So people get freaked out. Judges like, oh
my god, I've never done this before. But I'm feeling
a little bit more like, yeah, I've been in this
humane judging game a minute. Yeah, you remember my first
time and how I was so nervous. I didn't know
what to do. I'd only brought my phone, like I
didn't know. I remember that computer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because these are just volunteers, right, just parents volunteering
to judge.
Speaker 1: But some of these judges, and I know this just
from hearing it from the kids, take it way too serious.
I could see that they're very into like there's they
make rules. Usually these people are teachers. It's usually not
parents that are assholes to the kids. But these kids
can get like real nervous, right, and you know, they
really want to please the judges, and you know a
lot is writing on like your score of them. So
I got this group of kids and and it's this
it's this round where they're supposed to be very funny,
and it's usually done in a kind of a frenetic pace,
and they have to talk for ten minutes, and they're
doing different characters, and they're doing like sometimes a little
irritating noise in between when they're switching characters, and it's
it's a lot. It's like if you were just watching
Robin Williams, like in your face for ten minutes. It's
not really my thing, but you know, and you try
to like look supportive and you try to laugh, but
it's usually not funny.
Speaker 2: It's not going to be our seems like like watching
young kids on TikTok, you know, and they're like humor
and jokes, and oh.
Speaker 1: My god, it's ten times worse, you know what it's
like if it's not good. It's like watching little kids
putting on a show and you're like, I don't know
where to laugh, and this is endless. It's never going
to stop. But luckily you have your stop watch, so
you see it will it's it will end. That's hard.
So okay, so a couple kids go like three or four,
because there were six, So like the this kid goes
up and he starts his thing, and he seems, how
do I put this in a way that's he has
a couple of things maybe working against him, like in
the way that would make you feel accepted in high school,
you know. And he seemed very sweet, you know, and
he's doing his thing and he's got a lot of energy,
and like a few minutes into it, he freezes. Oh no,
and he and you're the only judge and I'm the
only judge in the room, so I'm sitting like he's
in front of me, and then kind of to his
right in chairs, there's all the rest of the kids.
Nobody really knows what to do, and he and then
he starts just going like I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Oh
my gosh, I'm sorry. I can't think. I can't think
of my next line. And I was like, it's okay,
you got it, you know, And then he goes, I'm sorry.
And then he walks off in the middle and he
goes in the like stand like I don't eat. Does
he sit down? And I was like, oh god, it
could be so proud of me. Though, I was like, okay,
I go, hold on, this is not over. I go,
I'm pausing the time. I go, I need just gather
your thoughts. I was like, guys, we're in high school.
This is high school. I go, this is not that serious.
This is not the Olympics of speech. I was like,
we're here to have fun and get experience, and I
don't want this to be a bad experience for anybody.
I go, it's not a big deal. I go take
a second, reset, breathe, reset, and go back up there
and he was like really, and I was like, yeah,
who cares. I go, guys, are we in the We're
here to have fun, right, and they're like yeah. So
he goes back up and I was like, I'm starting
the time I start, the time he goes back into it,
it's flawless, Like he finishes. Oh my gosh, Now did
I give him first place? No? And not just because
of that, but like it wouldn't be fair to the
other people that like didn't stop in the middle, but
he wasn't in the last place. I'm gonna tell you
that really were somebody who was clearly not as good
as he was. And then you can see how the
judges judged later and he didn't do badly, like he
didn't know he just had a bad get to the finals.
But he was like fine, And I felt really good
about myself because I was like, you know what, I
don't like, I'm not going to be a party to
a kid feeling having this be a standout bad experience
of high school.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And by the way, you know, he went home
and told his parents like this judge was awesome, like
she get.
Speaker 1: You know, let me have a second chance. And probably
the other kids.
Speaker 2: Too, like, ew, this judge was really cool, like let
him do it again. That's really nice.
Speaker 1: So I go back into the judges room and I'm
talking to this other mom who's like sitting at a
table with us, and she goes. I told her the
story and she's like, oh my god, I kind of
had that happen. I had this girl say like five
minutes in go I concede my time, and she said
and I was like, what, like, what do you say?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: She goes. At first I thought she said, can I
check my time? She goes, which is still odd because
even though we're keeping time, like they should kind of
know where they are. You're going to give him a
signal when they get to like eight minutes. She goes.
So I was like, wait what she goes. The girl
just goes, I can see my time. I'm done, like
I can't remember, and left and she goes, do you
think I should have like let her go? I go No.
I think it's it's not all of us and not
all of us can be me. I was like, I
don't think so, because she was basically she'd she'd owned
the decision and said I can't do it, and and
left it's not up to you. You're not her mom.
It's not up to you to go honey, No, you
can do it. I go. This was different because this
kid was clearly like spiraling and having some panic, and
I felt like he was going to be able to
do it if. Like I just I felt like this
was going to be very negative for him. Sounds like
that girl was like, fuck it, Well I know what
I'm doing. I'm done. Yeah. So anyway, that's happened. That's amazing.
That's this experience. This story is kind of crazy. I
can't wait. Yeah, Okay, so before we go, let's say
hi to our friends. Kelsey fern is on the friends
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She's a between Kelsey, between two Ferns. There you go,
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not easy being green, but you do it, do it
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them where you gotta go. We're back on cues. Oh
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