Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another episode of
geek Verse Podcasts. I am one of your hosts, the
Scooby Doobe Doo Taylor Field, and I'm joined by Hey,
my name is Dylan mus Yes, and we are we
are here, you know, Oh my gosh, another Dylan Taylor
duo here. I mean, what a week? Yeah, that's fantastic occurrence.
So we're here weekly, yeek because we got a lot
of MCU things to break down. It's like pretty much
just an MCU show with trailers at it and at
the end. So it's gonna be a good discussion.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you one Star Wars question though, before
we get into anything at all.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm here for it.
Speaker 2: I heard this thing mentioned a couple of weeks ago
and I just can't stop thinking about it. How does
gravity work on the Death Star? Is it like a
planet in that like everything centers around this the center
and you kind of walk around in a big loop
or is it are there like floors on a Death
Star like there are a building? Do you know how
the how how it should work? Because it's huge, right,
it's like planet or moon size at least?
Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? Yeah, small moon size.
Speaker 2: It must have its own gravity then, like it has
to pull you into the center.
Speaker 1: Right, Ah, well, I mean that kind of logic, like
it applies to like all Star Wars ships. Like how
is it that when you get into the cockpit of
an X swing, like you can move around like it's
without gravity? Right? Like why can you walk around the
Millennium Falcon? Like? Right? But Death Star is big enough?
Speaker 2: Like do you think with the scale of that, like
would they just straight up let gravity do its thing
or do they have like anti grav like features going
on for.
Speaker 1: The does Now I'm not an expert on this, but
in space, does size mean just size generate gravity or
does size plus Well, I.
Speaker 2: Feel like to build the anti grav tech for an
entire Death Star, that seems like it would be expensive
and a lot quite a lot to maintain, right Whereas
like if it's if it's if it kind of just
works well with gravity, like with natural gravity, I feel
like that's you know, economical, follows the laws of nature.
Ifhing seems like the way to go.
Speaker 1: You know, we've never seen any Star Wars planets where
there's different levels of gravity. Everyone is just you know,
they move like they would true.
Speaker 2: M h, there must be a counterexample of some planet
where people be jumping twenty feet in the air, right,
that's kind of crazy if they've ever done that, it's
like one of the easiest, like space sci fi then
concepts like you think, oh Obi Wan show, let's finally
do it, let's get these guys jumping.
Speaker 1: You'd think, I.
Speaker 2: Guess they can already jump super high like Jedis can,
at least because.
Speaker 1: They're just they can. Like if you were looking at
fire Strikes back when in the asteroid field, the Falcon
lens inside the asteroid, they go inside the giant space
slug thinking it's just a cave. They get out and
they walk around and there's no gravity thing or anything.
It's not like they're moving slow in space. They're walking
around and all they are just they're inside a space
slugs stomach. But apparently there's gravity in there. So yeah,
I just don't think gravity really exists in Star Wars.
That being said, when you're in space, you're gonna float around.
We've seen that before, but.
Speaker 2: For sure, and I mean I'll always remember. In the
review for one of those new Star Wars trology movies, Amber.
Speaker 1: Common shots the loot.
Speaker 2: I always think about the lob shots, like obviously, I
don't know. I don't think they care much about like
logic and gravity and things like that. It's you know,
it's fantasy. It's it's it's sci fi fantasy mixture, right,
we kind we kind of break the rules.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a last Jedi where yees flying and you
see the lasers just like lobbing. It's just cool shot.
But it doesn't make a lot of sense. It doesn't
make a lot of sense. No, Yeah, they have good
question though. That's a neat perspective to think about. But
I will say too the Death Star also, like it
is multiple floors to like with elevators.
Speaker 2: Right, but I mean you could still have multiple floors,
you know, whether or not it's kind of built around
like in a circular formation, you know, like around or
if it's just like one like imagine that just if
it wasn't based around that one center And like how
long do you think that takes elevator to go from
top to bottom of that thing?
Speaker 1: Three?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, how does anything get done? That's
it's insane? Yeah, no freaking kidding, there is there there's
like tell is there teleporters? Is that tech we've we
used as teleport around?
Speaker 1: It's not like I guess we do, like the light
jumps what do they call it? Hyperspace teleporting as you're
gonna get but that's.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, that's pretty limited. You really gotta give it.
You got to give or to get that happen. It's
not like some Jedi can just teleport around really right.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, that you can't unless you're using like the
there are teleporting things with Portal's kind of like it's
kind of like teleporting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're like when when when Mark Hamill, when
he you know, sends his ghost out to like wherever
the I don't know from where to when, but when
he's doing his big sacrificial moment, that's kind of like teleporting.
Speaker 1: Is when his sacrificial moment, Uh, which does he die?
Speaker 2: When he's like when he's like projecting like projecting his body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how would you classify as that as teleporting though?
Because it's just an illusion. It's just a projection. I
think that like projection and teleporting, like, but he is
conscious and he is present there mentally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just thinking that's kind of like the closest
you get to tell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not the teleportation magic. Thank you for indulging. Yeah, yeah,
I hope I was able to kind of answer. That's definitely.
That's a tough one. That's a tough one. Uh my goodness. Well,
I just want to talk Star Wars. Now, let's screw
the Marvel topics. Just break into some lucasfilms. Six minutes
was enough for me. Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, okay, we
uh yeah, we got stuff to get into. But before
we get into it, what do we have popping off?
You would have just done a side quest correct juicy episode?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Travis covered the new steam machine thing.
Speaker 1: We made it.
Speaker 2: There's a pizza bet in embedded in that episode, so
you got it. You gotta watch. It's a good one.
Did I get logged in the discord too? It is
also in the discord, but you should listen to watch
the first for the full context.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we did.
Speaker 2: We did hash We did hash out the rules of
this pizza bet on the episode. Whereas the one the
I think the post Travis made in the discord is
like one little sentence, but there's there's more meat on
that bone.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I gotta have specifics with Travis's pizza bets,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2: I was trying to make sure I dogged my eyes
cross my.
Speaker 1: T's cool, cool, right on. What else is kicking around?
We've got Pretder, Badlands and The Running Man reviews that
are on the feeds. We've got tons of stuff. Yeah,
welcome to Darry the TV show that's been popping off lately.
You and me just did the review for that on Sunday.
And yeah, just other things are exclusive to the Patreon.
I can't shout out the Patreon enough. You got to
go check it out because there's exclusive early episodes that
are dropping there, and we've got like a big roster
of things coming out. Twenty twenty six. You can watch
this really cool, funny little video Travis created on the
social media channels which kind of highlights everything. Yeah, so
it's a good time. And on top of that are
Patreon producers Aaron Braden, April of Darkness, Jack Grant, Sam
Super Bad, Mike, The Good, God Loves Me sixty nine,
Charlie ran Dal Cocktail, Clay Jon with h and Sam Green.
You folks are fantastic, Thank you very much, we love
you all and yeah, yeah, just the Patreon just says
everything and anything you can imagine. So it's a great
place to be. I think that's everything that I can
think of at the top of my head to shout
out currently. Uh but yeah, So, like I said before,
there's a lot of Marvel stuff that's popping off right now,
more stuff than I actually realized because I had seen
some of these topics on my news feeds. But then
there's some other things that kind of snuck in there too,
which is quite exciting. And I'm curious what you think
about this this first topic here, Dylan some some web
slinging action and some some victors and uh uh yeah.
Speaker 2: So I guess the first thing we have here is
that apparently this is a B tier be tier level Scoopy,
is that Toby's Spider Man is gonna is gonna be
in Doomsday instead of Tom Holland. Now we already knew
Tom Holland was out because of the conflict of it
filming at the same time as The Odyssey. And you know,
there's not much that I feel like an actor would
pass up to be an Avengers movie. But one of
those things is certainly to be in a kerysonal movie,
So I think I think that's where he was at, right,
so we knew he wasn't gonna be in this movie.
But yeah, it looks like they wanted a Spidey to
be in here, which makes sense. You know, you put
a spid on the post, or you put him in
the trailers, people get hyped about that. People might go
to a movie just to see Spidey. Maybe they're maybe
they're out on Avengers and Marvel. They haven't seen Thunderbolts,
they haven't seen Captain America, just based on the box
office of those two movies.
Speaker 1: They know what's going on in this current universe of things.
Speaker 2: They haven't seen F four, but you know what, they
see Toby, or they see any spider Man on the poster,
and they might just get a ticket anyway. So I
think it makes a lot of sense to get one
of them in there. And yeah, I feel like if
I'm running through the playbook here of what they do,
I feel like Fige shows up first to or makes
a phone call whatever he does to Toby, and he says, Hey, Toby,
do you want to be in this? And if Toby
says yes, then Toby's in your movie, good, then if
he says no, then you go to Garfield, And you.
Speaker 1: Know, Garfield's great. Let we love him. He's a great
in No Way Home.
Speaker 2: But I kind of feel like he's maybe the second
choice and that's already kind of being the third choice
after because Tom Mulland was busy filming another thing at
this time. So yeah, I think this makes a lot
of sense and I could see it happening for sure.
Now we're gonna talk about like a potential plot for
this movie. I don't really know how Toby, or really
anyone other than one specific character fits into that narrative,
but I would be super down for this. I think
it would be kind of fun to see what Toby
because let's say assume it's just Toby, it'd be cool
to see what that is like to just have him. Right. So,
we got the No Way Home trilogy, and of course
that is a fun trio. I'd take that any day
of the week. But also to just have him with
all these mcu characters. Maybe you get Hugh Jackman in
there too, you finally get that on screen moment. I
feel like there's a lot of fun potentially had there
outside of just him being like one of the Spider Crew, right,
like he's kind of just could that opens up the
world with possibilities of other connections he could have. Or
maybe it's just Doom going to Toby's universe and he
just takes out MJ and then we move on. I
don't know, it could just be that too, and we
don't actually get a cross over. And maybe that's a
secret invasion, not on secret Invasion, Secret Wars thing. No no, no, no,
secret Invasion please leave that in twenty twenty two or
whenever that came out. But yeah, I would like to
see this. I think it would be I think it
would be fun. And yeah, I guess maybe my prediction
would be that it would be a smaller part in
this and then yeah, Secret Wars is when we'd actually
get like those crosses overs that I just mentioned. So
I'm already walking that back. But yeah, I think this
would work, could make sense, And of course I'll take
any Toby I can get.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, I definitely want I
want more Toby and on the train of Spider Man.
So I was in Lenden Drugs the other day and
I'm always keeping my eye at like the the Lego
minifigure mystery packs that they released, so they have like
a new line right now, which is Multi Spider Man Multiverse.
I was like, okay, they're on sale two it is
a dollar office four ninety nine A packs. It's like,
I'm gonna grab one. And so the character I got,
I was super stoked. It's Peter B. Parker with may Day.
You can't really see it too. Heyday is like in
the in the baby pouch, seen the Lego baby before
I know it's it's it's an actual legit little Lego baby. Uh,
super super little tiny. So I'm super hyped off of
this little figure, like it's it's super cool. I want
to go back and get another one because they got
some other really cool variants in there too. But yeah,
so Toby though, I am. I'm so there for Toby.
I really would love to see him interact with more
other MCU characters. I think that would be really really
awesome to get different conversations happening and different encounters that
you just wouldn't otherwise expect or see in your generic
MCU kind of storylines. So I think it's just it's
really really cool and the idea that it makes sense
with Tom holland Spider Man and the scheduling with the
Nolan Odyssey and all that. And of course, if people
are going to be upset that we're not getting him in,
do you say, well, we're getting a movie with him,
pund a, sure, Hulk. So he's definitely going to be
getting some screen time then. And this who's to say, yep,
secret secret Wars for us that he doesn't pop in there,
and then they say, hey, Andrew, come on too, Le,
let's get you Toby holland all of you guys in
there together kind of a deal.
Speaker 2: So I could see that that seems extremely like likely,
and maybe Toby would be a good little stepping stone
towards that. You know, he's in peril, who needs his
spidy friends that he teamed up with once upon a time. Yeah,
that's right, So I'm all for it. Let's let's make
it happen. And I was curious with.
Speaker 1: Specifically because okay, Spider Man being in Doomsday, what kind
of connections could there be here? And so I just
I checked out, like some of the most memorable encounters
that Spider Man has with Doctor Doom and the comics
that is. And so there's one where Doctor Duoma actually
seeks out Spider Man as an ally because Jonah Jamison
has painted Spider Man is such a bad guy that
Doctor Doom was just like, I need to get this
guy on my team. I'm gonna go find him. And
then they He's like, oh, you're not a bad guy,
and they get into like a fight then because Spider
Man refuses him. There's another instance where Black Fox steals
a gem from Doctor Doom and the gem belongs to
his late mother, and so he basically he Spider Man
ends up getting the blame here and Doctor Dum's like,
you need to get this back in twenty four hours
or else. Since the Spider Man gets the jewelry back
to doctor Doom.
Speaker 2: I would be shocked if that was the route we
went in this one, but cool stole my.
Speaker 1: Late mother's egg. The last one here, which I thought
was really interesting, was so Spider Man goes to Latviria
undercover to face off against Doctor Doom because Mary Jane
goes missing, and so Spider Man believes her to be
hidden in Latveria and so he sneaks backing up with
Doctor Doom. Yeah, yeah, Norman Osborne and doctor Doom. She's
sitting all the big bads. So Spider Man actually breaks
into Doom's castle, which is very interesting, Uh, but I'd
love to see that. Yeah, I think there's definitely some
some really neat neat things here story wise. So yeah,
just very two different different characters. But of course I
have to remind myself, yes, it's Toby Spider Man rumored
to be in Doomsday, but there's gonna be other heroes
that are also in this movie on top of that, right.
Speaker 2: So yeah, do you think though, that Toby's inclusion in
this would have any of those crossover things or would
that be more reserved for secret wars? Like do you
think it's just Doom visiting Toby's world for probably a
scene or two and then we get that little sequence and.
Speaker 1: We move on. Oh well that ties into another thing
that I read, because there there's another comic where he
was is trying to take out or get Spider Man
and he kidnaps Flashed Thompson thinking it was Spider Man
and he's like, oh, you're not, and so Spider Man
comes and saves Flash Thompson. But that's where he was
going to try and take down Spider Man on his
own turf, and then the Fantastic Four arrives and helps
Spider Man, so you have like all five of them
team up against Doctor Doom, which is pretty sweet as well,
so very cool. I don't know if that answers your question.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's like another branch in the multiverse.
Speaker 1: But I like that. It was fun. Yeah, So I mean,
at the end of the day, I love Tom Holland
Spider Man, but I'm definitely not I'm not gonna lose
sleep over something like this, Like I'm excited, and I
would I lose sleep over the idea of Toby actually
being in here because ever since Far from Home or sorry,
no way Home, I've just been craving it. You're going
to have more Toby in there, right, No, I mean
it's funny.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, Tom Holland wasn't around, so they
swap him out for Toby as like a backup plan.
But like I feel like for most fans that's like
an like that's a that's a win, you know, like
that's that's a bonus for us, Like that's even better.
Speaker 1: So it is here. Here's the and of course I'm
hoping this isn't the case, because I like the pitch
where we have all three Spider Men for your Night
in Secret War. So that being said, putting that to
the side, do you think there's a chance that that
doesn't happen, that Toby's Spider Man gets killed in this movie?
Because I feel like do Vengers dooms Stay is gonna
have a lot of deaths and a lot of people
are gonna die, okay, like Thunderbolts. Geez, that would be crazy.
Speaker 2: I mean there's always a world where it's like not
our Toby, you know, it's like just another multiverse Toby
that's not the same importance one.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think they I think they want more crossoverness. I
don't think noa Holm is the only time we're getting
the three of them. I just obviously that was also
a billion dollar movie, so you don't want to just
throw away that potential fire, right, So I don't know.
I I would say no, I don't think. I don't
think Toby will get killed off in Doomsday.
Speaker 1: I think some people want to do it though, right,
I mean they shanked him in the last one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess they got pretty damn cloathed. Just when
we look at that roster of people from the old
X Men movies that are getting brought back, I'm like,
oh yeah, some of these guys, I can see them,
if not all of them getting killed off. But Toby,
that feels like you save that for Secret Wars. You
don't kill you don't kill him in the Part one.
Toby's a Part two death kind of.
Speaker 1: Guy, if anything, you know, Yeah, no, that's true. It
would crush a lot of people.
Speaker 2: I'm sure like Alan Cummings, you know, he can go
part in Doomsday. That's you know, that's understandable. But I
don't think Toby. He's a bit above that tier.
Speaker 1: I think you'll see Xavier die for sure before Toby.
Xavier is always dying. Yeah, yeah, he loves to die.
Oh my goodness. Uh, detail chat get any blu rays tailor.
Speaker 2: That was when you were doing your London drugs. That's
when he posted that.
Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, you know what. I spent a brief second. Uh,
I picked up Eternals and I held it in my half.
I thought, you know, five bucks, I'm just not doing it.
I'm not doing it.
Speaker 2: I was iballing have a notable amount of the MCU
movies on the Blue.
Speaker 1: Ray, I do. So I've got all the Avengers. I've
got both Doctor Strange movies. I've got shun Chi, I've
got Iron Man. I have all the Iron Man. So
I know that I've got two of the Thores. I've
got three of the Captain the first two. Yeah, I
need I should get Ragnarok. I should buy that one. Actually,
dark that was that was there, that was one of
the four nine nine DVDs. It's like, get that one.
But Thord Dark World I have the steelcase for So
that's just so.
Speaker 2: No, notably, you have a lot, and it is a
snub that Eternals is not on the on the Rock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I saw it, I thought maybe if I
get it, it's really only for the collecting purposes, but
I just don't have any real pull to it, so
I just didn't. I didn't go for it. Yeah that's fair.
Speaker 2: I mean, I am the defender on that movie, and
I still only seen it once, so and and feels
like we're never gonna get a movie that uses those
characters again. So I don't know if I like, oh,
I gotta brush up on my Eternals before Eternals too,
or any crossover other than can go on a poster.
But yeah, it feels like we're not getting any of
that stuff.
Speaker 1: So no, it doesn't. I mean maybe maybe in the
Secret War you might see one or two of them,
Angeline and Jolie coming back just get killed off Doomday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like a montage, not even like a scene,
like just a montage in the background.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, one of the like what is it called
b roll or whatever at the start, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in that Marvel logo in it pops up, there's
just like a quick flash of like an eternal cap
or something.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm always on the hunt for other Marvel TVD,
Blu rays and whatnot. I want to get low Key
that season one, but I didn't get that one. Okay,
do you do you have a sizable collection of hard
copy Marvel projects?
Speaker 2: I have zero overall my shelf. I have I think
twelve DVDs. I don't think I own a Blu ray,
So no, I don't have Do I have.
Speaker 1: Any or any of those Marvel movies. Oh, there's just
twelve DVDs in general. I thought you meant they were
twelve Marvel movies.
Speaker 2: No, no, No, twelve DVDs in general. Here I can
see that I have Home Alone, one and two, Monsters inc.
I am Legend Steel Case. You've seen that in that
it's a nice one. Incredibles King Kong, we got School
of Rock, we have Tenacious d Inception, Lord of the
Rings trilogy. That might be every movie that I own.
Speaker 1: It's nice.
Speaker 2: That's a good I guess there are some at my
parents' house that I could go pil for at any moment,
but I don't think I'll do that. I think twelve
was great when I didn't have Internet for like three weeks. Man,
I watched every single one of those. But that's a
very rare use case.
Speaker 1: Where I need the physical additions for things. I mean
I do.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of games, but yeah, when it
comes to movies, I got a slim collection.
Speaker 1: I like that. That's nice. It's good to have a
slim collection because you can easily have excessive collection and
just run into problems.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every time I move, I get rid of a
few more. And then that's really we're down to like
the bare bone. We're down to the skeleton crew at
this point, and I don't know if we can get
any lower than that.
Speaker 1: When I did a garage sale on too long ago,
I had a whole bunch of DVDs that I decided
to get rid of. I have a bunch of them
keeping because you can't even find them on streaming. You
gotta rent them for like fourteen bucks whatever. But it
is so annoying, so the ones I want to get
rid of it, put them all into a big tote,
put them out for the garage sale, and I think
I had like at first it was like three movies
for five bucks, and I think I changed it after
that because this guy came and my mom was helping
me with the garage sale, so I zipped out real
quick for like ten minutes. And then this guy had
apparently came and was like looking at my mom, like,
you know, you're never gonna sell these movies for this much.
They should just be free. So I was flabbergasted when
I heard this. Of course, no one bought any movies
for the entire two day garage sale that we did it,
but I changed it to five movies for three dollars,
and yeah, no one bought any, but there were some
gem movies in there. I just couldn't believe it. So yeah,
it's a dying market. It is a dying market. I'm
gonna donate them though, because there's a where you used
to live. Just up the street is a store and
it's a retro video game store. And you walk in there.
They had like in box the conga drums, like by
thee it's by the dome. It's up the street from there.
That's when this year, like it's very very new. He
just opened up. I'm in Clona. We got to we
gotta go there. It's worth a checkout. There's so many
just old school inbox like Nintendo stuff and just games
and everything. And he's got a huge variety of like
vhs and DVDs too, and so I'm thinking I'm gonna
bring these DVDs that didn't sell, just give it to
the guy. So uh, but he's super nice, really really
cool store. So yes, definitely we'll get you in there
all the next time.
Speaker 2: I feel like all the used game stores I go
to that have like, yeah, the obligatory like DVD section.
That's like a ghost town, Like I don't see anyone
ever looking in there.
Speaker 1: It's dusty.
Speaker 2: It smells a bit different in those aisles, you know,
it's just it's a different, different landscape.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: That's exciting because the Clona doesn't really have used game stores,
like that's just not really it's not big enough, I guess,
but I feel like it is big enough.
Speaker 1: So it's cool that there's a place now open. That's
so cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, detail popping off here? Are you standing, Dylan, I'm standing? Yes? Nice?
Uh And DVDs just look bad on four KTV. You
know I won't argue with that, so you need what
the crit the old school? Huh.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I noticed that the DVDs I
was watching looked bad on my fork a TV.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I noticed that. Do you play
them on your PlayStation or what do you play them on?
Speaker 2: They would have been through my series X, I think, yeah.
Speaker 1: Two series X. Yeah. Okay, so I feel like they'd
be decent enough quality. But I'll have to test that
theory next time. Yeah, pop a DVD in Yeah, I
didn't know that was a thing. Uh sweets, Well okay, yeah,
let's uh, let's carry on with our uh after our
little detour there, good de tour. We like those. Uh
so Sadie Sink, you know she she's be popping off
here in Stranger Things season five. Uh, she has been
confirmed for Secret Wars. And this is on top of
her already being in the New Spider Man project with Holland.
Speaker 2: Of which we still don't know her character in Spider Man, right,
no idea, Like, there's been all sorts of rumors and
this is like a separate detour rumor of that.
Speaker 1: What are the odds though, that she.
Speaker 2: Is two separate characters, one in Spider Man and then
this character that we're gonna talk about.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think I have run my draft anymore that
I don't. I was gonna say, do I get more points?
But like, I don't think. I think I dropped her
after I got my Spidy points for her, but I
did get some juicy draft points for her being cast
in Spider Man.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be the same character, I would say, same character,
different variant maybe yeah, like sense.
Speaker 2: Or maybe it's like she has a cover in Spider Man,
like we see her as this one character, but it's like, ah,
just kidding, I was actually this person all along that
we see here. But yeah, the rumor is a new
rumored character's abyss who's kind of like a multiversal. Travis says,
here the human form of a multiverse. I don't like
that wording, and I looked it up and that wiki
page was, Yeah, hecka confusing. I don't know what was
going on there. None of the words really made any
sense to me. It was like, oh, yeah, this character
in this character teamed up, but I don't know any
of the characters referencing. At one point it said that
this character teamed up in a war against the Beyonders,
and I'm like, okay, I know a Beyonder. I didn't
know there was multiple of those. But that that's finally
when the article is kind of coming together a little bit.
So yeah, Sadie Sink being in secret Wars, you know,
we have to think this would be building off her
character from Spider Man multiverse type character.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if she has.
Speaker 2: The gravitas that you need for like a multi a
human form of a multiverse. To me, I feel like
you need someone who has like an extreme gravitar. She's
a great actress, but I don't know if she has
like a multiverse like energy to her.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Does that make any sense
that makes sense, that makes sense. Yeah, I don't know,
it's just such a weird character. I feel like to
pull in here. I mean, she's becoming a pretty well
known name, i'd say, so I feel like you give
her a role that just kind of makes sense like
a lot of people, I say a lot of people,
But I think it was just really Travis that was
throwing out the may Day Parker idea, which I thought, Hey,
that'd be pretty sweet, that'd be super super cool. Yeah,
so there's that, what like black Cat? I know people
weren't think of black Cat? What was the other character
they were thinking of?
Speaker 2: Definitely, no one like this, like all, I think mostly
you know, we've thought about in the context of Spider
Man characters, you know, characters he has mingled with over
the years. So I think, you know, maybe no one
really thought to consider, Oh, yeah, she's obviously gonna be
in the Secret Wars, and like, what would be the
character be that would make sense for her to be
in those two projects? So this definitely changes things, and
I think it maybe makes sense if she I mean,
according to the Noseway off here, apparently she's confirmed with
Secret Wars, which means, you know, we still know the character,
but we at least know she's in at now, So
that's that's even pretty big in and of itself. And
I guess lens to. I mean, we've heard a lot
that that Spider Man movie was like supposed to be
a bit of a stepping stone to Doomsday, and I think,
I mean, plans always change in the MCU machine, But yeah,
I guess that kind of confirms it too. If we
get this big new character, the big actress, it kind
of makes sense that that's going to lead into Secret Wars.
But again, with Tom Holland not being in Doomsday, it
seems like we're kind of jumping over that also, like
she just is in Spider Man and then straight into
Secret Wars and not not in Doomsday at all. Because well,
now I'm trying to think, what is the release date
of those freaking movies again?
Speaker 1: Which one comes out first? Doomsday? Okay? Doomsday?
Speaker 2: Okay, so that makes sense. Then so Doomsday's first, then
Spidery then.
Speaker 1: Then yeah, okay, that makes sense. I I didn't know
there was a thing as multiple multiversal Avengers, but it
seems like that's it's Sun Spots kind of his team.
And yeah, no, well it seems like that's one of
the teams that Abyss actually joins, which is interesting. Interesting,
So again, maybe that's another team that pops up during
all this chaos, right, because it just seems like it's
a team based in Doctor Doom.
Speaker 2: It seems like an animated series to me, Like, do
you think we'd get that in the MCU Live Action
Multiversal Avengers.
Speaker 1: If you were to kill them off right away?
Speaker 2: Maybe if they're multiversal, they should be like the highest
power level of all the Avengers.
Speaker 1: Yes, but then let's look at multi versus madness and
you got the Illuminati right, ah, yeah, and they just
got absolutely decked by want Angry wrong. That's a really
good point. Yeah, they've done it before. Good point. So yeah,
they could squash them like a bug. Uh yeah. So
I mean I don't know the way that they they
Travis Edward of this, Yeah, Abyss or someone who's basically
human form of multiverse. I'm not a fan of that,
that human form of the multiverse, that embodiment that just
roused me the wrong way. Don't like that. So I
think they need to stay clear from that. And I'm
totally on board with them keeping it in the same
light as just Spider Man and keep it as keep
her as a Spider Man character or someone affiliated with that.
But yeah, because I mean everything in if it was
like Abyss or someone really multiversal, then I feel like
that really is a little bit too over the top,
because when you look at what Spider Man Brand New
Day is, like, it's supposed to be more street level, right,
like grounded. I thought I thought that's kind of where
they were taking it with Punisher and obviously throwing some
Hulk in there too, but I thought it was going
to be that kind of back to like street level
Spider Man kind of thing. And if you throw someone
like Abyss in there with all the magic, I mean,
we just had a huge dose of that with Peter
Parker and No Way Home right heavy on the magic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I do think that there's a strong
possibility that kind of what I was saying earlier, like
the character she plays in Spider Man is a street
level type character, a Spider Man affiliated character. But then yeah,
there's maybe a layer to it that we unpeel. Maybe
it's like a post credit thing of like, oh shit,
you thought I was this person, but I'm actually whether
she didn't know, or just she was hiding it from
Spidery for some reason. I don't know why she needs
to get down there to New York to like figure
out what's going on in the issue with the multiverse,
but maybe that's what it is. And then so we
post credit, which you know is a very MC thing
to do have a movie. She has one character post
credit though, like Big Time sets up. Okay, well, now
I got to see Secret Ores. That's kind of the
follow up to this storyline, so I could I could
see it being something like that, which you know, we've
seen a lot of that, like obviously Fantastic Four Thunderbolts,
like all these things right now are we're we're converging.
We're going towards a convergence with these Avengers movies, So
that kind of makes sense. If obviously Tom Holland wasn't
available for Doomsday, well now you can have his movie
just kind of afterwards connecting to the second one. So
I could see this working out. But yeah, I'm not
a big fan of this concept of Abyss, but we'll see,
We'll see how they play it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it seems like they want to keep City
Sink in tandem with wherever Holland appears, right like Sadie
Sink being in his movie City, not being in Doomsday,
but we'll be.
Speaker 2: They put her in the Odyssey all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like what's going on? Throw Toby in the
Odyssey now too, Chris Nolan and Toby they need to
work together, Yes they do. Yes, I'd be down for that.
They can find something in the Odyssey for him. They
need extra centurions or something like that. Toby would make
a good Centaurian. I'm sure maybe he's already doing it.
We'll see. Uh, but yeah, so I I'm just curious
what her character will be. Yeah, but anything else you
have on on Saty sinc Oh, no, we can. We
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ladies and gentlemen, we got a real nice Another MCU
topic here, Doomsday Avengers supposed to be having a rumored
storyline of Captain America kind of paralleling with Doomsday or
with Doctor Doom here. So, uh, do you know anything
about these these two having sharing a storyline together?
Speaker 2: No, I don't, I really don't. This is kind of
uncharted territory for your boy.
Speaker 1: It's unsure territory for me too. But luckily we got
some details here provided by the mister Travis Snell. It
seems like Victor von Doom's wife and son that got
killed in an accident rip and Victor himself was injured
and his body damaged. He traced the cause of the
accident is Eve going back in time, and now he's
after him to avenge his family. I mean, we've already
covered half of this. Steve has gone through time and
has mucked around a bit.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean maybe Doom's wife was Peggy, you know,
maybe that maybe.
Speaker 1: Fuck, I don't think that's what I want. Wow, I
don't think that's where we're going with it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right, Okay, we've set that up, so
we could, you know, connect that back to our last
Avengers movie a little bit of continuity there, so that
makes a little bit of sense. But I have a
couple questions with this, and maybe I just don't understand
this the what Doom is doing usually, but I just
don't see how this concept leads Doom to be going
all these different worlds, interacting with all these different characters,
Like how how do the original like Fox era X
Men characters fit into that narrative.
Speaker 1: That's a very simple narrative.
Speaker 2: It's just a revenge story, right, He's just trying to
go kill the guy who killed his wife. Like we
already kind of had that a bit with the what's
his name from Civil War?
Speaker 1: What's the guy the dancing from Civil War?
Speaker 2: Daniel Brule, like the villain in Civil War who kind
of sticks tonyh yeah, Zimo.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of why I was with Zemo, right.
Speaker 2: Like his uh, his wife and kid were killed in
the Sokovia thing, and that's kind of set up his story,
and so I just feel like maybe we're retreading ground.
Speaker 1: A little bit there.
Speaker 2: And also that's tied that would also be kind of
weird because well, shit, I guess that is kind of
like a full circle moment then, because if that, if
Civil War is all about Tony versus Cap and this is,
you know, not Tony anymore, but still Downy versus Cap,
like maybe that's what they're going for intentionally, and they're
trying to that idea again.
Speaker 1: I kind of like that I'm not gonna lie you
like it now, Yeah, because that's just a weird, distorted
kind of perspective where it's not Tony's. Wow, we don't
know if this is Tony's doctor Doom, but it's like, yeah,
Robert and j As Tony's parents getting killed and now,
oh no, it's his wife and kid.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so what are we gonna Is the twist
gonna be that Zemo actually killed Doom's wife and kids
and the like framed cap for it.
Speaker 1: He was actually the one setting up this whole event too.
I mean, I'll take more Zemo. Let's do it. Let's
get him in there.
Speaker 2: But it's been a bit, he's been on ice for
a little bit. I feel like we need to break well.
He was supposed to be he was supposed to be yeah, okay,
he was supposed to be in Bolts too, right, and
then he didn't end up being the Bolts.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, I believe. Yeah, he would have been
great in Thunderbolts. He would Yeah. You highlighting that retreading
aspect here, very very good point. I didn't actually think
about that. So hmm. It is something that we have
seen before, and the only difference that would really really
get me jazzed is, yeah, if it is the doom
of Robert Jenny Junior and now I think it was
me and Travis were talking on a Weekly Geek not
too long ago, where it seems like there's rumors of
multiple doctor dooms in here and like a lady doom
as well. So right with anid armis right? Is the
potential for that? Uh? Sure, I will believe you. I
thought that was on that episode that you were referencing.
It might have been. I don't remember that specific. I
just remember the multiple dooms but well maybe, yeah, maybe
I do have like a faint memory a ghost memory
of anad armis being mentioned. But anyways, yeah, I take
a ress. Yeah, I think if it is Tony's doom,
then that's absolutely something you bank on and you run with.
I'm totally down to see that, which is like the
table's kind of not flipped, but just this him getting
the short end of the stick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Civil War is my favorite MCU movie,
so if we're we're going back to that, well it's
a good will to be drinking from.
Speaker 1: So that's right. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Something about this just doesn't seem grand enough for the
premise of an Avengers level movie or an Avenger Avengers
level threat because like does he care about anyone else
or is it like are the X Men just protecting
Cap or something? Like how do they get involved in this?
He's going to world to world. I don't know why
he would need.
Speaker 1: To kill these people.
Speaker 2: Like he would go to the World, he'd go to
X Men Land, he'd see, Okay, CAP's not here, Okay,
I'll go to the next one. Then he goes, you know,
to Toby's world. CAP's not here, let me go to
the next one. Like that doesn't sound like a very
fun movie. That sounds pretty dull.
Speaker 1: Actually yeah it does, it does, and the idea too,
Like touching back on Toby and his universe, we don't
have all of the Avengers and all the other heroes
and stuff that exists there, right, So I mean if
we get into this storyline here with Doom and Captain America,
like what is their what are their teams are existing
in the storyline right, because I'm not even sure if
there's a Fantastic Four in our main universe or MCU
universe here, because they're clearly coming from a different parallel
right parallel yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean even right now, like our cap is
is not even I guess he's around as an old man, right,
but like I assume we're going back to a young
Chris Evans.
Speaker 1: Anyway, what if we're looking at this the wrong way.
We're assuming it's Chris Evans. What if it's Sam Wilson Man,
I don't I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the box Office or
a Brave New World, but I don't know if they're
banking on Mackie being the big face on the poster
here to carry this home.
Speaker 1: He I think he was, he was hoping, But yeah,
I mean he does have a team. He's assembling his
his Avengers, right, he's rebuilding them.
Speaker 2: So maybe, yeah, I mean maybe maybe maybe we are
misthinking this. I guess there's like it's confusing because there's
so many.
Speaker 1: Different caps that that it could be.
Speaker 2: But okay, yeah, if it was the Sam one, does
that make a bit more sense, right, because yeah, as
you're saying, he's more insulate, he's got a lot of
people around. Still, I still don't know how that really
involves the multiversal people, right. I feel like that would
just kind of set up our main Avengers of like
trying to defend Cap.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, and if this story is the actual story
where Cap, I mean in the notes says Steve going
back in time and causing this ruckus. But the rumor though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true, because that was not that was
not sad. Yeah, and you would think that Doom would
be smart enough to be able to tell that they're
different people even though they have the same moniker.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean he kidnaps Flash Thompson thinking Spider Man,
So I mean he's got kidnapper syndrome and.
Speaker 2: By that logic us agent he's getting he's getting killed.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, that might be Cap. I'm not exactly sure.
Let me just kill him anyway. That would say what
Doom would say? Oh absolutely, And I mean that.
Speaker 2: That would make because he's he's on the Avengers. Like
if Doom's like, okay, here's what I know about Cap.
He wears this suit, has like a shield, and he's
on the Avengers. Well, who's on the Avengers right now?
We don't really know, I guess, but we know that
there's a new Avengers team and that involves US Asian
and not not Sam Wilson. So we'll have to see
how that Avengers kind of political battle the IP rights
how that evolves also and by the time Doomsday rolls around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right, cool, cool, cool cool. I'm
trying to think if I have anything else I can
add to the Doomsday Captain America kind of thing here.
Speaker 2: If it is this, if it is a Doom with
the revenge Taale centered around Cap, which Cap do you
want that to be? What do you think has more
fertile ground for juicy content?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 2: Is it Sam Wilson or is it Yus Evans?
Speaker 1: It's Evans for sure. I think if you get that
Evans square off with Robert Dannel Junior's Doom, I mean,
oh my god, that's just that's the Beasknies. But you're
not gonna get that same Captain America that we had
in our main MCU. I think you know that Cap
is old, he's old man Cap. So I think you're
just gonna get a Captain America from a different universe
and maybe, yeah, Evans plays a bit more of a
different zany personality for that Captain America. Yeah, Like they
don't want him to be old wrinkly Cap for this
whole movie.
Speaker 2: So do they go back and like pluck him from Like, sorry, buddy,
I know you're dancing with Peggy and you're having a
great time, but you kind of killed someone's wife, and
now that.
Speaker 1: He's coming after you, we got to bring you back. Yeah.
I don't know.
Speaker 2: Seems messy, but I think I think no matter what
happens this, these two Avengers movies are gonna be extremely messy,
and hopefully they're still super fun. But yeah, I just
think they're it's likely that they're gonna be very, very messy.
But there's too many changes, too much uh stuff up
in the air, presumably last minute changes.
Speaker 1: It see.
Speaker 2: It sounds like for a lot of these things. I
wonder if Sadie Sink when she got hired, even knew
what role she was playing. I feel like that could
be uh unknown.
Speaker 1: You know. She's i'll play it, and I'll play whatever
you want. I'll be in Spider Man.
Speaker 2: Sure what character And they're like, we'll tell you on
the day we're shooting, and what character you're playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be interesting. Probably didn't even know it
was a Marvel movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe she did think it was The Odyssey and
she's like, where's Tom Holland?
Speaker 1: I don't see. Yeah. Oh you're not Christopher Dolan, oh
Burnhal Holland, Oh man, this is I'm on the Odyssey movie.
Oh sorry, this is not that one.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, he's we're gonna see g I Tom Holland
didn't know, worry about it.
Speaker 1: He'll yeah, uh cool? Alright. Uh do you have anything
else you want to slide in there for that topic? No?
I think uh. I think we're well covered on the
Marvel front. Well covered. Okay, cool, Well we're going to
sneak then on over to some trailer discussions. Yeah, so
which trailer do you want to start with?
Speaker 2: Here? Don how about we start with Wake Up dead Man,
the third Knives Out movie. I gotta pull this up
because the cast is insane, which I already knew about
because that was announced a while ago. But cast is insane.
I feel like, have we seen a trailer yet or
just a teaser? I feel like there was something, but
this is maybe the first.
Speaker 1: I think this is the first trailer, but we've definitely
had a teaser.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the first trailer I've seen for sure.
But yeah, just knowing what that cast is, I've been
excited for this movie. I gotta say the trailer didn't
really do much for me. I don't know, maybe it's
something about the setting. I like that it's maybe a
bit more like because the second movie was so bright
and colorful and I don't know, just had a very
different vibe than that original one, which I love so much,
But this don't feel like it's maybe a bit closer
in energy to that to that first one. So I'm
liking that, but I just don't know if there was
as big of a hook this time around as like
the first two ones. With the exception of the amazing
cast cast, which has of course Josh O'Connor, Josh Brolin,
Glenn Close, Miela Kunis is in here. We have Carrie Washington.
I think Katy Spainey's in there, you know, the up
and comer. We're big fan of Jeffrey Wright. I don't
even think I saw him in the trailer, but he's
in this movie apparently. So yeah, just a killer cast
and we'll see which one of them is the killer.
But I I am excited for this movie. I like
I like these these this I guess duo of movies.
The second one didn't quite hit the same for me,
but it was still a fun time, and yeah, I
think this will be fun to see where he goes
in this in this trilogy here and see what Ryan
Johnson's cooking up.
Speaker 1: I agree with what you said there about that second one.
The first one is a big highlight for me, or
really liked it. That second one just didn't necessarily capture
the energy that I was looking for. But this trailer
got me pretty excited and it has some very familiar
beats that remind me of that first one. I got
my ticket today to go see it as well, because
so next week.
Speaker 2: The second one was a Netflix joint, wasn't it. But
this one's in theaters.
Speaker 1: The second one I did see in theaters as well. Actually, okay,
they I think they released it a little It was
a little bit after I can't remember what there were scheduled.
Speaker 2: I feel like I don't remember seeing that in theaters,
but maybe I did, because I definitely was on that review.
Speaker 1: I think it was. Yes, it was like a last
minute announcement or something like that that it was gonna.
Speaker 2: But it's on the releasing on like a Tuesday or something, isn't.
Speaker 1: It It is? Yeah, yeah, November twenty fifth.
Speaker 2: Okay, I think That's why I thought it was like
some weird Netflix thing. But okay, that's a little bit
different but cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it'll be fun to see see that one
on the big screen because I think did we see
the first one on the big screen? Like I because
the first one wasn't that I think we did. Yeah,
I don't think the first one was like a straight
to Netflix one. I think that was theatrical and then
the second one they announced for Netflix but then they
were like, oh, hey, we'll put it in some theaters too.
Speaker 2: Right, because they were trying to get maybe get some
like Oscar buzz or whatever for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, huh, I can't remember weirdly schedule. But yeah,
so I'm I'm I'm there for it though, I'm I'm
looking forward to it and I think it'll be a
good time. There's something about Daniel Craig's character. He's just
got this charisma to him that I really like and
this excitement and especially when he just drops that line
like Scooby Dooby do. He's just such a I like,
I like his energy. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2: So on the IMDb, Josh Brolin's character has m O
N S as like instead of mystery as that, which
I assume means monsieur monsieur.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, what does f R stand for?
Speaker 2: Because that's what Josh O'Connor Josh O'Connor's characters f R
Judd do plents, do Plentissy do plent to sy do
plant to see. It's a weird Judd do plant to see,
which I love. It's I can't pronounce it, but it's
a dope name. But I don't know what the f
R stands for?
Speaker 1: F R. Okay, it could mean freudlein line. Isn't that
like a woman German honorific? Historically the German honorific for
an unmarried women or girl, equivalent to miss it's terms.
There is also frau frau f R, a youth for
an adult woman, regardless of marital status. It's often appreciated R.
Speaker 2: But okay, well, Josh O'Connor, I don't think he's playing
a woman in this movie.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. Oh yeah, no, let's see. What's
A mean for a ma'am?
Speaker 2: Sometimes in safety here it means fire retardant, but I
don't think that's what he I don't think he's immune
to fire in this but maybe that's a big plot twist,
which this kind.
Speaker 1: Of uh means for real?
Speaker 2: Uh okay, the for real jud duplanticity.
Speaker 1: I could stand less common, but I could stand for
fathers title for a priest. Oh that makes it because
he's a priest.
Speaker 2: Okay, so father father Judd Duplante Tocy, I can father
jud duplant Tocy. So I can't wait to learn about
that character.
Speaker 1: That's just amazing sweet yeah, uh cool? Anything else you
have on U.
Speaker 2: Knives out Uh no, I'm just looking at this cast again,
just such a deep roster.
Speaker 1: But I was not expecting me Lacunas and I couldn't
even recognize her at first, but I was just hearing
her voice a bit more. I was like, okay, yeah,
that is Melacunas. That's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't I don't seen her in anything in
it in a long while. Andrew Scott's in here too,
from Fleabag. That's that's exciting, and that's yeah. This cast
just keeps getting better.
Speaker 1: M y one guy who's used.
Speaker 2: To support us on Patreon that I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 1: I was surprised to see him pop up too. Actually
I copy off guard. Yeah. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Well,
what what do you want to jump to next?
Speaker 2: Uh, well, let's see here. Project Hail Mary is. Another
movie is the Ryan Bostling Space. I guess, like, yeah,
NASA sci fi situation. He's a scientist, he gets sent
out to space to help figure out what's going on
with his dying son or whatever, and then he bumps
into an alien. And that's kind of how the first
trailer ends, like we he like fist bumps an alien.
Maybe There's like a couple of quick lines. And I
was kind of hesitant to watch this trailer at all
because I'm very interested in this movie, even just from
that first trailer, and I feel like I don't really
need to know more. I don't really want more of
this to be given away, and this trailer definitely shows
off a lot more, including like the full look of
what this alien creature does look like and more but
like them communicating and what that relationship is like. So
I kind of wish that I hadn't seen this trailer, honestly,
because I do want to see this movie, but I
just feel like I don't need to. That first trailer
was enough it sold me on the concept, but other
than that, it's kind of more of the same. I'm
into this. I think it looks fun. I just like
sci fi, like space stuff. I like, you know, meeting
alien raceists for the first time. I think this is
a very interesting setup where the alien race end Ryan
Gossling's character both have the same goal, like they're trying
to save their either solar system or universe whatever it is,
and so they both had to come to the same
place to do so, and that's when they make this
connection together and work together. So I think that will
be a really fun dynamic. I'm excited to see this
bromance between Ryan Gosling and a little rock creature.
Speaker 1: That should be fun. Yeah. I love the book. Could
not put the book down. I want a sequel novel too.
It has based off a book same author who did
The Martian Uh, Andrew Andrew Weir. So it's if you
haven't read the book, I highly, highly highly recommend it
because it is so good and it's just one of
those books where it's just the way that he describes
the scenery and the thing's happening, you just paint a
picture in your mind and it's just you feel so
happy reading it. As many people call it co op
porn because the dynamic between our two protagonists, it's just
like teamwork out the wazoo, and it's just so just
feel good vibes. It really is. I'm not I'm not
going to get into any of the specifics because I
think the story is really awesome and it's it's it's
it's a really really good time and so just to
be able to see this as a movie, I'm beyond
ecstatic for this. This is my number one for twenty
twenty six right now. It's just because I'm so fricking
pumped until until they drop a Predator a Star Wars
or something in lieu of that. But no, the this
movie just has me really really pumped. And I think
that Ryan Gosling is really gonna land this character very
well because he's a he's an interesting character and he
does have like very sarcastic kind of approach to himself.
And then yeah, the scientific role too, I think I
think Ryan Gosling is a really really good pick for it.
But the yeah, I'm just I'm looking forward to being
able to talk more about it when we watch the
movie and being able to break it down or review.
It's gonna be a really really fun time. So I
highly recommend it. So I hope a lot of people
don't watch the trailer because it does spoil a lot
that first trailer as well, when they kept playing it
all the time in movies when we're at the theater,
so I kept like, I cover Madison's ears and I
tell her to look away so she doesn't get spoiled.
Because the first the first trailer, if you watch the
first half, like the first two minutes, you're okay. But
then if you watch anything after that, and then this
new trailer, if you watch it, you're getting spoiled. And
that was one of the when you're reading the book,
can you get to that point, you know with with
the second protagonist, it's like, oh my gosh, Like I
was not expecting this. This is so far out of
like what they were setting up I felt like and
where we came. But it's just such a cool thing
and just for me and what I my kind of
interests lie. It just got me so excited and it's
just so so stoked. But I hope that they do
that he does do is a sequel. He's definitely toyed
with the idea and stuff like that, but I I
would love it if you just did another book, because
it's such a good story and there's more to explore
in that universe. So anyways, I digress.
Speaker 2: Damn, that's super exciting. I didn't know you were such
a hardcore project.
Speaker 1: Hail Mary guy. That's oh yeah, oh I am. I
love it. One of those rare books that you just
you cannot put down. And it's a quick read. It's
not a very big book, and it's amazing how much
this ground they cover and that narrative in such a
smaller size book too. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Taylor, I'll tell you a book I was
happy to put down is Wuthering Heights. Back back in
college when I had to read this sucker, and it
was not for me. It was not my vibe, not
my energy. That whole English class I was in. All
the books this teacher picked were just not not my speed.
I did not enjoy that course very much at all.
And so you know, since this was announced because its
Emerald Emerald Fenel's next movie, of course did Saltburn and
promising young women, so not thrilled that this is like
her next thing, and especially now seeing a trailer, uh,
just kind of underwhelming, Like, I, this is just not
it's just not.
Speaker 1: My cup of tea.
Speaker 2: I can definitely see why this is many people's cup
of tea, and you know, it is one of the
most famous books ever, I feel like, and so those
people are gonna be thriving, and I'm sure it will
be a good story and all that, but I really
just have no interest in seeing this at all. Obviously,
the cast of a Lordy and Robbie like paired up
is fucking power charisma oozing off the screen there, and
the story seems interesting. If this guy disappears and then
I don't know if it's like a I can't remember
from reading the book, if he comes back like like actually,
or if this is just like her having like visions
of him coming back. I'm not sure what's going on there,
but I'm not too intrigued to find out, if I'm
being honest, So I think this one will be a
skip for me. Even though Salburn was was top notch,
so a little unfortunate.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so what was that I was seeing? Oh
my goodness. I took my mom to the theaters and we
watched Why Am I? One bet after another? Blanket out?
So we watched One Bet after Another and that was
where I saw the first trailer for Wuthering Heights, and
my mom cludon right away. She's like, oh, yeah, oh
that's a that's an old book or whatever, and so
she was she was engaged with that a little bit
and it was just getting kind of sexual. I thought, oh, yeah,
this is kind of awkward already, and you're watching this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your mom always have the awkward experiences of the movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, and one about after another. Definitely some
awkward awkward moments in that movie too, like Life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, the uh, this trailer I liked a
little bit more because it feels like it was flushed
out and had a little bit more narrative to it.
Speaker 1: And so I'm kind of thinking, you know, maybe a
date night, you know, I'll take Madison to see this,
because I mean, as far as the time, time, uh
and place is where she she is definitely a big
fan of Pride and Prejudice and I enjoy watching it
and there's just something about that time period that's just
very relaxing and natural. So I think when it comes
to Withering Heights kind of following in that period, it's
it's interesting I'm curious and yeah, I mean a Lordie
and uh Robbie just going going hard with passions, so
it'll be be interesting to see what happens there.
Speaker 2: There's there's a shot in this of a Lordy licking
a wall, which I feel like was the exact same
framing of all A licking the bathtub in Saltburn. So
I feel like Fennel's definitely going back to the back
to the well for that one. Which oh yeah, a
good Will to dip back into again.
Speaker 1: A lot of good wells tonight, goodwill and a good
wall yeah.
Speaker 2: Must be yeah, yeah, it's like a Willy Wonka wall
where it flavored like candy.
Speaker 1: Yeah cool, all right, what does uh? What's next?
Speaker 2: I need you to tell me what you thought of
good Luck, have fun, don't die because I'm feeling I'm
feeling like I don't know how to.
Speaker 1: Feel, which is the worst feeling to have. I mean,
it was yeah, I don't know. I thought it was
like a zombie movie at first, but it just seems
like it's an AI controlling movie. But I don't understand
where they're going with it because it looks like there
was like a giant horse boss that they had to fight.
So I have no idea where they're going with this movie.
It seems kind of like, I don't even know. It
just seems weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it does seem like maybe like
the future he's talking about isn't yeah, like a zombie future,
but it's like essentially the equivalent of people who are
so addicted to their phones or something like that that
they just become, you know, like unresponsive.
Speaker 1: I guess in that sort of ideas. So is it
like I thought they were going for, So that does
make sense? Actually, yeah, so would you say it's like
a cross of like universes kind of meshing and like
multiversal kind of stuff unfolding.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess there's always that debate of like
time travel multiversal stuff kind of the same thing, kind
of a different thing. This feels like a bit more
confined comparing it to Doom Today, which we just talked
about for an hour. But uh, yeah, it seems like
it's just like one guy going back. But then yeah,
obviously if like they some people come back with him
to the future to see what's going on there, I
don't I don't really know, Like I don't know if
they're coming to save the day, or if he came
back to save the day here, so that that changes
the course of history, which.
Speaker 1: Is I think that's what how those thing's kind of go. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But for the director here did a bunch of the
Pirates movies, did Rango, the Lone Ranger, uh, and then
did a movie called The Cure for Wellness, which I
don't know, and that was in twenty sixteen. This is
next movie, So he just had like a nine year
gap of not directing anything, so kind of a return
to form, I guess. And then the writer what has
the writer done? Dora and the Lost City of Gold.
Speaker 1: That's one of them.
Speaker 2: That was that was a movie that was love and monsters.
That was that was a movie that existed. So not
not selling me on this concept, I will say. Also
apparently the writer of Star Wars Rowe Squadron, so get
ready for that.
Speaker 1: This Cure for Wellness? Interesting cast ross A here, you
got me a goth Ah, you got Dane Dehn twenty sixteen,
Me a goth No twenty sixteen Me a goth Yeah,
Dane Dehon who you know Goblin from Andrew Garfield's uh,
spider Man, and you got Jason Isaacs, Lucius malfoy. Oh yeah,
Killer Trio. I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so interesting, very Maybe we should retro this
before have Fun, Don't Die.
Speaker 1: I feel like Travis has talked about this movie before
A Cure for Wellness. Let us know, Travis, have you
talked about this movie before? Yeah? Yeah, let us know.
Let us know. I don't recall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still feeling pretty unsure that one is one.
What is the discord saying about that, I'm not venturing
to find out on my own.
Speaker 1: M M, yeah, I agree, And.
Speaker 2: I honestly felt pretty similarly about another trailer of The Housemaid,
which is a Sidney Sweeney and I don't know I'm
blanking on her name even though she's great from Mean Girls.
Speaker 1: Oh geez, I gotcha, I gotcha. Her name is officially
last I checked Amanda Seafried Seafreed, that's.
Speaker 2: The one cool duo I like that. And then the
other guy I'm not sure what he is from, but yeah,
the concept of this one is that Sidney Seafreed is
like this kind of rich lady I guess who has
a housemaid coming to work for her in the form
of Sidney Sweeney. But then she is kind of crazy. Uh,
and then just you know, then of this trailer, there's
just a bunch of crazy quick cuts of Sidney Sweeney's
shooting water out of her mouth, one She's in prison,
one where Seafreed's walking out of like presumably like a funeral.
I feel like this movie's gonna have a lot of
flashbacks and a lot of dream fake dreams. You know,
the classic someone is having a nightmare, they wake up,
it's like, Okay, wow, they got me, I guess, but
it wasn't real. This movie's got I have a lot
of those two things.
Speaker 1: I think this move's gonna be built on flashbacks and
nightmare sequences. Yes, I absolutely agree. I'm excited because this
guy called Brander sorry Brandon sk sclanar skl e n
a R. I first saw him in the Yellowstone prequel
nineteen twenty three. Then he popped up in that movie.
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 1: I think it was like The Tower or something like that.
It was with a girl went on a date with
this guy and then she get getting like air dropped
messages and had to figure out who it was in
the restaurant of this tall tower. It was a B movie.
It wasn't anything to write home about. But he was
in there too, and I really like him as an actor.
He's really good, So I'm curious to see what he's
like in this movie with with Sney Sweeney and Sea Freed,
but they're dynamic with each other. I'm I'm looking forward
to seeing what happens between the two of them. It's
going to be very weird and again more zaniness and whatnot.
But yeah, because I think I think Sydney needs a
win because her last movie didn't.
Speaker 2: Look like it did too well the last three I think, right,
she's just had a bummer year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think this one.
Speaker 2: Also appears to be based on a book, so yes,
we're really going all in on the uh the book
to movie adaptations.
Speaker 1: To me, Yes, it's definitely a theme here, Rex, that's
for sure, with the book to movies.
Speaker 2: It's Yeah, so this one is directed by what else
is this guy directed? He's directed? I don't want to
see what he's produced. I could care less. The School
for Good and Evil? You remember that one that like
Harry Potter looking thing that came out a couple of
years ago.
Speaker 1: School for Good and Evil?
Speaker 2: You remember there's a TV show. I think it was
a TV show.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a movie.
Speaker 2: This doesn't say episode counts, so maybe it was a movie.
Speaker 1: It says two and a half hours.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, you don't remember that one Harry Potter looking thing.
He directed twenty sixteen Ghostbusters.
Speaker 1: That one? Oh interesting? Okay.
Speaker 2: He directed fifteen episodes of the Office, So that's a
good part from did Some mad Men. I think the
rest of development seven episodes. I might be a fan
of this guy all of a sudden, so you know what,
maybe I'm down.
Speaker 1: I don't. I think this movie it just looked like
a lot of the.
Speaker 2: Kind of it looked very generic. I think is the
is the the thing here? I will say, funny thing
on the on the YouTube? You know, on YouTube it
has like the most you can see where people were
clicking to, like the most played sequences. I went to
the most played sequence in this YouTube video, and it's
a shot of a girl taking.
Speaker 1: Her undies off.
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't see like you don't really you
pretty much just see like a pair of undies. It's
not even sexy, it's not even like I don't know
why people would be titillated by this enough to want
to click tose Heat over and over again. But you know,
it's a Sydney Sumeni thing, so there's a certain crowd
that shows up for these trailers and movies. But I
was like, come on, YouTube, can you can do better
than this?
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm, jeez, Louise, I might go see it in theaters.
Speaker 2: That might be a date night, date night one. It
might be a day Is this one that's coming out
on Valentine's Day? That one of these movies did have? Like, no,
I think that was Don't Die It came out on
Valentine's Day?
Speaker 1: I thought it was Weathering Heights. Oh, maybe it was both.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was both, but definitely good Luck have fun.
I remember seeing that and being like, really Valentine's Day
for that one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of a weird one for Valentine's Day
for sure, but the house media. I wouldn't see that
one alone. That would definitely be a date night. Bring
Madison to that so we could laugh and enjoy it together.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a Christmas It had a very Christmas vibes
to it as well. Is that that's coming out this Christmas?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's coming to December nineteenth.
Speaker 1: Because they were trying to make.
Speaker 2: When it starts out, it makes it seem like a
like a kind of Hallmark Christmas movie, and then it
you get like the thriller like pang sound and they're like, Okay,
this is different. And then the trailer doesn't really feel
like that, and then there's like the music kind of
feels like it a little bit.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess they're going for a Christmas eve vibe.
Speaker 1: Perhaps they're going for it.
Speaker 2: Almost like a die hard kind of thing where it's
like it's not really it's like set at Christmas, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I don't think it's going to be
a Christmas movie or theme really at all. I think
they just slap that on the way the audio, the
Christmas music felt with the trailer, it definitely didn't really
sink that well. In my opinion, I feel like they
just slapped down there because we're getting to the Christmas time, because.
Speaker 2: We've had well, I feel like movies like that now
recently where people are like, Okay, we're making a horror
Christmas movie and that's the thing. And this didn't really
feel like, oh, this is a thriller horror like Christmas movie.
It just felt like an afterthought or it felt like
maybe just something the trailer was doing, but the movie isn't.
Speaker 1: Doing it, so I don't Yeah, kind of strange. Yeah,
I agree. Cool, all right, Well that leaves there's two left. Yeah,
I start with them. Oh you want to want to
talk some Mowana.
Speaker 2: I have not seen Maana and this trailer. I mean,
I don't know why anyone would wanted to see this
if they haven't seen Molana. I feel like this doesn't
sell anyone on the concept personally. But maybe I'm just
a bitter guy who's never seen the light of Molana.
Speaker 1: Because people love this movie. Yeah, I enjoy the first one.
I didn't see it right away. It took me a
while to actually sit down and watch it. I mean,
having a daughter helped you sit down and watch it.
We saw the second one in theaters. That was that
was a lot of fun. But yeah, like I like
the movie a lot. I like the songs. I like
the Rocks character in the movie quite a bit too.
But them doing a live action one, I don't. I'm
not really feeling it, like I'm not there necessarily to like. Well,
I see in theaters. Yes, I think it'll make a great,
a great time, like just family experience. But yeah, I
don't know. It's just some movies that they've done are
just really really they hit home being an animated film only,
and I think that they should just stay as that.
When you're revisiting like these older films like Cinderella and
Sleeping Beauty and all that stuff. Sure, let's make some
live action adaptations of that, because those are really old stories.
And I'm biased because a lot of them I really
enjoy when I was growing up. So I like seeing
the new iterations and like the newer versions of the
classical songs and whatnot. At least Lelo and Stitch definitely
had a little bit of difference in there, some stuff
like you really nitpick, and I feel like I'm gonna
do that with Mawana, where you know that original very
very well and then you know it sells news remick
it's so fresh. It is like a big difference. Wana
two came out twenty twenty four. I think that's right.
Speaker 2: Like that still feels pretty recent toly too. I watch
it be like ten years ago, but I feel like
it was pretty recently.
Speaker 1: No Way More and I came out in twenty sixteen.
That's fucked. I'm sorry, that's true. That is crazy. It
says sixteen.
Speaker 2: Came, you're one of the pod I don't believe it.
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I refuse that's what Google is saying.
Let me try.
Speaker 2: I just remember us talking about it much in the
early podcast era, but no.
Speaker 1: November twenty third, twenty sixteen. Yeah it did. I'm really
three us doing reviews. Perhaps, I don't know. That's yeah,
it must have been. When did Frozen one come out?
Frozen one came out twenty thirteen, it's three years prior,
and then Frozen two twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think Google's line to you. I
think it must have been twenty sixteen. It just feels
like we're being gas lit by Google.
Speaker 1: Right, it kind of does. Yeah, that's that's just crazy.
I thought it was all very very much so a
newer film. But you know what, Okay, then it's been
because when is Maana Live Action releasing?
Speaker 2: Here's a rule of thumb, right, if a movie came
out post creation of Geek first, it shouldn't get a remake.
Speaker 1: Is that that's safe to say? I like that. I
think that's the same.
Speaker 2: At some point that won't be true anymore. Maybe in
like five years that won't be true anymore, but I
think it's still holds true. It's too soon, but I
mean billion dollar movie each time, right, so obviously it
makes sense.
Speaker 1: Why, Well, that's that's something that I saw. To this
person commented like, oh, this is one of those movies
where it's like, oh, why do we need this? But
it's gonna make you know, over a billion dollars? So
you got the rock in there too, So he's going
to be bringing bringing a lot of people will be
excited for that. I just hope that the CGI is
a bit better because it didn't look the greatest in
the trailers, and it just feels like, okay, again, why
are you doing a live action movie for this one?
It's just the humans are the only actual things on set.
Everything else is just all CGI and all green screen. Right,
So yeah, yeah, the way she goes these days, that's
the way she goes. Well that leaves us with our
final movie trailer here, that's true, Well, more of a
TV trailer, right, TV trailer? TV trailer, that's right.
Speaker 2: It looks like it could be on the big screen.
Visuals look in spiffy Taylor.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, yeah, the trailer was definitely really really exciting,
and Season one definitely had a lot of stuff in
there too that was definitely high quality. It definitely felt
like it was on par with movie. After watching this trailer,
I was really trying to remember a lot of Season one.
I can't exactly remember how it ended. There's just there's
there's some there's some time distorted stuff, and like this
one character is trying to figure out like his other
and figure out his family stuff. But definitely the highlight
that I will mention here are the Russells, the Wide
and the Kurt. Oh my goodness, it's just an absolute
genius idea having in Monarch season one you had two
parallel storylines and one in present day and then one
being like I think it's like sixty seventy years in
the past or it was in the past, and both
are from what is it called my God? The organization
behind it all crap. I can't remember Illuminati, No, you no,
definitely on not Illuminati. When you're dealing with whatever, you
have Kurt Russell playing the older version of Wyatt Russell, right,
and so both of them playing the same character, and
they just did a banger of a job, like Father
and Son knocked out the park, playing the one character
over like all these years, and so it looks like
they're going to continue that. With the trailer here you
could see some of why Russell's character coming back. So
I'm really excited to get this story from the past
and the present day kind of paralleling each other again
because they do a damn good job. And you know,
they're not slowing down because we got a new Godzilla
King Kong movie coming out not next year, I think
it's twenty twenty seven, So yeah, they're they're going full
steam ahead.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to see why Russell also has a kid,
So I wonder if they could get three generations going
of the Russell family.
Speaker 1: Three generations Whichipedia.
Speaker 2: Has like several half brothers and sisters of this guy
has one cousin. She kind of crazy all these random
people that are here. I don't see any kids though,
so I don't know.
Speaker 1: We don't have to wait a few.
Speaker 2: Years before we get the three generations action. He appears
to be married. He's been married a couple of times.
He's currently married to someone named Meredith Hagner.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm seeing here White Russell has two sons.
Oh okay, wicked Buddy did not count that, Buddy Prime
Russell born in twenty twenty one and Boone Joseph Russell
born in twenty twenty four. Kids are named Buddy and Boone.
Buddy and Boone, Buddy and Boone? Whyott, what are you doing?
Kur and Wyatt? Buddy Boon. That's ridiculous. That's like a
Buddy moment. It is. It really is Buddy Prime.
Speaker 2: If anyone named those things. But I think to me
it's the combo of those two names together. That is
just it's not a good cocktail. That's I'm not a
fan of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, that's that's something.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe we'll get that in Monarch season five. We'll
get three generations of Russell's. We'll get Buddy and Boone.
Why not throw both get.
Speaker 1: Him in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Buddy, Boone Wine and Russell and Kurt there you go.
Speaker 1: Well, do you have anything else you want to add
on the trailer? Uh?
Speaker 2: No, I you know that was that was your your
plate of food.
Speaker 1: I was just kind of here to cool. Well, classic
Maddie fashion. Here he sent us a question. Well, not
a question more like a demand or a statement. Yes,
he needs to know the order in which we like
these trailers or excitement. Do you want to go first?
Do you want me to go first? I gotta take
your crack at it. Yeah. So I think I'm gonna
put good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die last, and then
after that, I think I'm gonna go Mwana. After that
I'll go I'll go Withering Heights, I'll go The Housemaid,
go wake Up dead Man, and then I'll go Monarch
season two. And then i will go Project tail Mary
at number one. Okay, just banger, that's good. I feel
like mine is gonna be quite similar. I got at
the bottom.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put Molana number second from the bottom. I'll
put the Heights third.
Speaker 1: From the bottom.
Speaker 2: I'll put good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die, so that
one's a bit higher for me for sure.
Speaker 1: Then I'll go Housemaid.
Speaker 2: Then i'll go Monarch season two. For Taylor, I'll go.
Speaker 1: Wake Up.
Speaker 2: Actually I'll put Project hell Mary two and then wake
Up dead Man one. Just because the Project hell Mary trailer, now,
I think I'm more excited for that project. Perhaps, but
the trailer itself wasn't quite as as spicy perhaps, so
I'll yeah, that's my that's my.
Speaker 1: Order for the day. Overall, a mixed bat but it
was fun to break these down. Nonetheless perfect cool. All right, well, ladies, gentlemen,
thank you for tuning in. That concludes our weekly geek
this week. We'll be back. I think we got a
news episode with the whole GV four popping in on
the Thursday, and then we're doing at Originals which will
be up on the Patreon at certain tiers, and then
we're also doing our Minecraft retro tomorrow too. That'll be
dropping on the Patreon. So I gotta finish watching that tonight.
It's what a ride? What a ride? You do? Got
to finish that. Yeah, all right, well we'll be back.
So yeah, have a good one and we'll see you
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