1 00:00:16,199 --> 00:00:19,199 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to this week in the Atlantic Coast Conference 2 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,320 podcast for All Sportsdiscussion dot com. This is Jeff and 3 00:00:24,359 --> 00:00:27,800 you can follow me on Twitter or x at Talking 4 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,960 a c C Sports. That's at T A L K 5 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,159 I N A c C S P O r T S. 6 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:41,240 The podcast moderator is Matthew and you can follow him 7 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,240 on Twitter x at All Sports d A c C. 8 00:00:45,679 --> 00:00:48,799 That's at A L L S P O r T 9 00:00:49,039 --> 00:00:52,280 S D A c C. I'm going to turn over 10 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,039 to Matthew now as he gets us going in the podcast. 11 00:00:55,399 --> 00:00:58,399 Speaker 2: Jeff, what are your thoughts in the a SEC Championship game? 12 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,079 Speaker 1: A man, that was Matthew that that was a great 13 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:12,519 game last night. I think you saw everything that justified 14 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:18,239 SMU and obviously Clemson being in the playoff. You know, 15 00:01:18,359 --> 00:01:23,040 Clemson came out like a ball of fire, especially defensively, 16 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,719 jumped out to a big lead at one point, led 17 00:01:27,159 --> 00:01:30,400 twenty four to seven in the second half, and then 18 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,879 you saw what has made SMU such a great football 19 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,280 team over the course of the year. Behind Kevin Jennings 20 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:46,159 and that offense, they mounted a furious comeback in the 21 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,439 fourth quarter of that game. And actually, if that game 22 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,920 had went to overtime. I think you're looking at an 23 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:59,400 ACC champion of SMU because they had all the momentum, 24 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:04,680 but the Clemson's credit, they took the kick off by 25 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:09,680 ad Adam Randall got them into position where even with 26 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,520 just nine seconds left, they only needed another play to 27 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,479 get in the field goal range. Kate Klebnick executed perfectly 28 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,919 on the past two. I think it was Antonio Williams. 29 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,560 And then the Houser kid, the field goal kicker, you know, 30 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,879 probably hit the kick of his life a fifty six 31 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:33,560 yard or to put Clemson into the playoff. And you know, thankfully, 32 00:02:33,599 --> 00:02:36,719 and I know we'll get into, you know a little 33 00:02:36,759 --> 00:02:41,680 bit more, the committee did the correct thing, the only 34 00:02:41,759 --> 00:02:46,479 thing in my opinion, that would have made any sense whatsoever, 35 00:02:47,159 --> 00:02:50,800 and you know, didn't penalize SMU to such an extent 36 00:02:50,879 --> 00:02:53,560 that they were eliminated from the playoff. I mean, what 37 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,400 kind of precedent what that have sent to knock a 38 00:02:56,439 --> 00:02:58,919 team that was in the playoffs out of the playoffs 39 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,240 based on a yardfield goal in a game that game 40 00:03:03,319 --> 00:03:05,960 down to the wire. But you know, great game for 41 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,800 the for the a CC kind of showcasing on on 42 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:15,000 ABC with playoff implications and both teams showed up in 43 00:03:15,039 --> 00:03:15,639 a great game. 44 00:03:15,759 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 3: Excellent take check excellent take uh. On a future podcast, 45 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:24,159 we're gonna be asked about asking our guests about wins 46 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,199 or losses in the in the ball games for ACC 47 00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:29,560 football teams that are coming up. So we're not gonna 48 00:03:29,879 --> 00:03:31,919 we're not gonna go through that here tonight because we're 49 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,639 just gonna go through a quick just through a quick 50 00:03:34,759 --> 00:03:37,360 take and I'm gonna help you go through this, Jeff, 51 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,360 I'm gonna I'm gonna give you some give I'm gonna 52 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,240 give you a question and I'm gonna get Then there's 53 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,360 a few games that are out there. Which agency team 54 00:03:44,439 --> 00:03:47,599 do you think will do better? And which ACC football 55 00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:50,439 team do you you think will do worse than expected 56 00:03:50,439 --> 00:03:52,479 in the ball games this year? And of course, Jeff, 57 00:03:52,599 --> 00:03:55,120 here i'm talking about the non playoff teams. Has the 58 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,680 scope and let me before you answer here, I mean 59 00:03:58,719 --> 00:04:00,879 we we certainly have. I'm just going to run through 60 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:04,000 the games real quickly here. The LA ball You've got 61 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,840 cal versus UNLV. That's kind of an intriguing matchup right 62 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,759 because u NLV clocks in there at number twenty four. 63 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,000 You've got Pitt versus Toledo pitt kind of falling off 64 00:04:15,159 --> 00:04:18,600 like the like the nineteen thirty stock market in the 65 00:04:18,639 --> 00:04:22,240 second half of the season, Georgia Tech versus Vanderbilt. I'm 66 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,319 actually very intrigued by that game. That's the Birmingham Ball, 67 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:31,439 Syracuse taking on Washington State, UNC taking on Yukon, Boston 68 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:36,720 College taking on Nebraska, Miami taken on Iowa State. 69 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: That's that's that. 70 00:04:37,959 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 3: That actually looks like a really terrific matchup. It's kind 71 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,439 of like the that's the pop Tars Bowl. It was 72 00:04:42,519 --> 00:04:44,839 kind of like the NC State Kansas State game from 73 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,040 last year. You've got NC State taken on East Carolina. 74 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,959 I love that the ESPN did this. This was such 75 00:04:51,959 --> 00:04:55,800 a trill job. And then you've got Louisville taken on Washington. 76 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,480 That's the son that's the Sun Bowl, the traditional Sun Bowl, 77 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,480 of course, I CBS, and you in the tax Layer Ball, 78 00:05:03,519 --> 00:05:06,800 You've got Duke taken on Old Mess And then the 79 00:05:06,879 --> 00:05:11,319 last one right here, you got the Hokies taken on Minnesota. 80 00:05:11,319 --> 00:05:14,399 And I actually have an interest in that because I 81 00:05:14,439 --> 00:05:18,240 have an uncle who absolutely hates the Gophers, Jeff, and 82 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:23,079 he wants to see the Hokies get about sixteen interceptions 83 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,319 in that game. Jeff, he wants to see some NFL 84 00:05:25,439 --> 00:05:29,800 money made by the defensive backs for Virginia for. 85 00:05:29,879 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: Virginia Tech that game. So the short of it is, Jeff, 86 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,439 who do you think in this bunch is. 87 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,879 Speaker 3: Going to do much better than expected? And again we're 88 00:05:37,879 --> 00:05:40,120 talking about non playoff teams. Is the scope and who 89 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,240 do you think is going to do worse than expected? 90 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,680 And I'll give you my response afterwards. 91 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't seen the spread, so I haven't. 92 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,959 I haven't looked at those so for who might be 93 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,800 the favorite. But if I'm looking at, you know, the 94 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:04,040 teams that I really think will show well in the bowls, 95 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,319 I'm looking at Louisville here against Washington. That's that's a 96 00:06:09,439 --> 00:06:13,319 quality game there in the Sun Bowl. And I think 97 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,920 Louisville was really disappointed in how they played last year 98 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:22,639 against USC and this is a big opportunity for them 99 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,759 to kind of, you know, really establish Louisville is one 100 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,759 of the teams that we're going to be you know really, 101 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,560 you know, tracking in the ACC in the future is 102 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:39,160 one of the better teams. I look at Louisville, I 103 00:06:39,199 --> 00:06:44,680 think Georgia Tech came off a ton of momentum against 104 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,959 that Georgia game, and I think Brent Key's got a 105 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,759 real fire to him and have an opportunity to play, 106 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:55,319 you know, And this is not your your normal Vanderbilt team. 107 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,079 We know about you know, Pabia quarterback and what they 108 00:06:59,079 --> 00:07:02,800 did against al Obama. You know, this is a dangerous 109 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:08,079 Vanderbilt team. But I expect Georgia Tech to play well 110 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,399 in that game. I think that's that's a team that's 111 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,959 setting up for next year. If you're looking at teams 112 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,199 that I might be kind of concerned about how they 113 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,720 could disappoint, you know. I'm I'm looking at NC State 114 00:07:20,839 --> 00:07:26,240 here against East Carolina. East Carolina lives to beat Tobacco 115 00:07:26,399 --> 00:07:30,959 Road schools and at ACC schools, and they are going 116 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,639 to be highly motivated in that game. And NC State 117 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:42,040 better definitely better be ready. I think Duke playing an 118 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,480 ole Miss team that this is going to be an 119 00:07:44,519 --> 00:07:50,040 intriguing game. But if ole Miss is really motivated, which 120 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,680 could be a question in this game after getting left 121 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,600 out of the playoff, this is probably the most fifty 122 00:07:55,639 --> 00:07:59,399 to fifty game on the whole board. I could see Duke, 123 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,040 you know, getting really run by ole Miss. Or I 124 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:08,439 could see you know, a Duke team, you know, really 125 00:08:08,519 --> 00:08:11,240 look at this game as a as a bigger game 126 00:08:11,279 --> 00:08:14,319 for them than the way Ole Miss does and you know, 127 00:08:14,399 --> 00:08:18,800 producing an upset there. I do think, you know, if 128 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:21,720 Jackson Dart is in that game, Lake chinsper has been 129 00:08:21,759 --> 00:08:25,639 all over the internet. You know, Ole Miss is a 130 00:08:25,639 --> 00:08:31,959 pretty capable team, and that is one that you know, 131 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:34,480 on the surface, that's gonna a lot depend on the 132 00:08:34,519 --> 00:08:38,679 game flow. But I'm a little bit worried about Duke 133 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:39,279 in that one. 134 00:08:41,399 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: Are you worried about Pittsburgh playing Toledo? Jeff in front 135 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,720 of a basically a home crowd for Toledo when they 136 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:53,840 play in Detroit against Pittsburgh because that's the Stones throw 137 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,960 from Toledo per se, I think they probably will have 138 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,120 a lot of fans at that game versus Pittsburgh, And 139 00:08:59,159 --> 00:09:01,679 I'm not really sure how motivated Pittsburgh is going to 140 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,960 be going into that game against Toledo. 141 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,799 Speaker 1: You know that that that is also a game, you know, 142 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,679 that's that's another game where where's Pitt's mind going to 143 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:15,759 be at I mean, if they're motivated and into that game, 144 00:09:16,799 --> 00:09:18,879 I feel like that's a pretty good matchup for them 145 00:09:18,879 --> 00:09:22,679 because they should be able, you know, not to have 146 00:09:22,759 --> 00:09:26,440 to worry about physically matching up with Toledo. If they're right, 147 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,399 you know, I think I think they win that game. 148 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,039 But like you said, you know, and that's kind of 149 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,840 like that East Carolina game. If Toledo is making this 150 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,240 kind of their super Bowl with Pitt coming into the 151 00:09:37,279 --> 00:09:40,399 game with five losses, that could easily be a game 152 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,600 where the bottom just falls out on Pitt's season completely. 153 00:09:45,759 --> 00:09:48,879 That's something I quite don't understand. You have another opportunity 154 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,320 to play with your team and to go into these 155 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,039 bowl games, and I understand the opt outs, you know, 156 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,440 it's just part of the business now. But when the 157 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,200 rest of the team just kind of goes in there 158 00:10:01,279 --> 00:10:05,240 and you know, just doesn't have a motivation or the 159 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,559 will to kind of play. You know, every every game 160 00:10:08,639 --> 00:10:11,960 is an opportunity to gain a victory and set the 161 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,519 tone for next season. And so even if you have 162 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,720 a couple of opt outs here and there, I mean, 163 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,440 the rest of that team playing should go in to 164 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,799 these games, you know, highly motivated. 165 00:10:24,759 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: So it just very quickly. 166 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: I think Virginia Tech is going to have seventy five 167 00:10:29,399 --> 00:10:33,000 percent of the fans in Charlotte. I'm very sure of that. 168 00:10:33,639 --> 00:10:38,080 Minnesota travels for hockey games. They do not travel for football, 169 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,759 they do not travel for men's basketball. That's going to 170 00:10:42,759 --> 00:10:46,480 be a decidedly home crowd favored for the home crowd 171 00:10:46,519 --> 00:10:49,519 favorite there for Virginia Tech. So it's kind of an 172 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,000 opportunity at least to try to put for the Hokies, 173 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,559 to put themselves, you know, back in a little better 174 00:10:55,639 --> 00:10:59,559 position for next year, and have everybody thinking that that 175 00:10:59,759 --> 00:11:03,240 get get drunk on Pop Watson right that he I mean, 176 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,600 I'm being a little little sarcastic here, right, all of 177 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,000 a sudden, all of a sudden, you you know how 178 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,600 hockey fans are, Jeff, all of a sudden, they're up 179 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:10,240 by twenty points. 180 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,159 Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's gonna happen. 181 00:11:13,919 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 3: So, I mean, every you know, that's that, everybody will 182 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,519 be ready for that. But it is gonna be a 183 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:21,000 good scene down there in Charlotte. So I'm I'm happy 184 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,039 to happy to see that the Hoky's got that one. 185 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,200 That's it, and the Duke Mail, Duke Mayo folks wanted 186 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,960 Virginia Tech in there too, in there too. Let's go 187 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,960 on to the seating, Jeff, uh boy, I think the 188 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,840 committee did a darn good job. 189 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you my take on this, Jeff. I 190 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,440 think the committee did a darn good job. 191 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 3: The only alteration I would make, Jeff, is I would 192 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:47,679 I would totally do it made for TV Matt Tip 193 00:11:47,799 --> 00:11:51,840 and I would have SMU playing Texas and I would 194 00:11:51,919 --> 00:11:55,279 have Clempton playing at Penn State. Jeff, I would like 195 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,720 that is one the only change that I would make 196 00:11:57,799 --> 00:12:00,360 to that. But I thought that they did a good job, 197 00:12:00,399 --> 00:12:02,600 and I shouldn't say that. I'll let you back up. 198 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,080 I didn't like Indiana getting in there at all, but 199 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,399 I figure, since Indiana's in there and SMU's in there, 200 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:11,159 I'm not going to not really going to complain. I 201 00:12:11,159 --> 00:12:13,320 probably would have complained more of Alabama got in there, 202 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,799 but I think for the most part they did a 203 00:12:16,799 --> 00:12:19,320 good job. I just would have switched those two matchups 204 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,360 because I I wanted a big time, old old time 205 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:24,320 swack matchup. 206 00:12:24,399 --> 00:12:28,159 Speaker 2: Jeff, What do you yeah? 207 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: I think I think that would have been a lot 208 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,840 of fun for the state of Texas and for SMU, 209 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:36,799 And you know, that would have been a nerve wracking 210 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,000 game for Texas to play s m U. I think 211 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,799 in that in that state and and you know, trying 212 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,360 to be uh, you know, the big program of the state. 213 00:12:48,519 --> 00:12:50,519 You know, it's kind of like that East Carolina NC 214 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,320 State type thing that that would have been a lot 215 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,480 of fun. And I think you know, comes and going 216 00:12:57,519 --> 00:12:59,679 to Penn State also would have been good. But you know, 217 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:04,159 these are are not massive gripes because I totally agree 218 00:13:04,159 --> 00:13:07,440 with you, Matthew that this is one of the best 219 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:13,559 jobs that CFP committee has done, you know, since since 220 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,960 they've they've had the four and expanded team playoff. I thought, 221 00:13:19,519 --> 00:13:24,399 honestly it was an excellent job with how they put 222 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:29,639 the put the field together. I think it's very fair 223 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,519 to ask, you know, is Indiana really a playoff caliber team? 224 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:38,360 And I think they they managed it perfectly. They they 225 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:41,879 reward them for you know, a fine eleven in one season. 226 00:13:42,399 --> 00:13:45,679 But you know, if they'd been Ohio State or Georgia 227 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,600 or any of the power programs, you know that they're 228 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,080 getting a high seed and hosting a game even if 229 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,919 they didn't make their title game. But they I think 230 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,600 they definitely recognize that Indiana played a very soft schedule 231 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,399 and have them going on the road to play Notre Dame. 232 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,919 I think it was really fair to, you know, have 233 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:11,399 Clemson not have a by game. They did lose three games, 234 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,600 after all, so you've got them set up, you know, 235 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,799 as a double digit seed going on the on the road. 236 00:14:19,879 --> 00:14:22,240 I mean, you can't argue with that. Obviously, the the 237 00:14:22,399 --> 00:14:26,440 SMU inclusion goes without saying it was. It was the 238 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:31,320 the obvious and correct thing to do, and I'm glad 239 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:37,159 that they recognize that had they knocked SMU out, you 240 00:14:37,519 --> 00:14:42,559 basically would have had conference championships games not existing anymore, 241 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,159 because if they would have knocked them out based on 242 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:50,039 a fifty six yard field goal, you're you're seeing conference 243 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,480 championship games gonna get canceled left and right, because no 244 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,039 one's gonna put a team at risk again ever again 245 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,080 for playing an extra game while someone who sits at 246 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,840 home pops in. And this is not a situation like 247 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,600 I saw one media or one college football media guy 248 00:15:08,039 --> 00:15:10,679 posted to I'm going to just leave nameless tried to 249 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,759 explain if the SMU had got left out, it would 250 00:15:13,799 --> 00:15:16,879 have been, you know, no different than Georgia losing last 251 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,320 year as a twelve tozero team and not making the playoffs, 252 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:25,279 which which obviously is completely a ludicrous analogy syst because 253 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,279 last year the teams that all made it in over 254 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:33,440 Georgia were conference champions and had one or fewer loss. 255 00:15:33,639 --> 00:15:37,039 It wasn't a three loss team overtaking a team that 256 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:42,000 appeared in the conference champion ship. So to me, it 257 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:46,759 was no relation to that scenario whatsoever. And then by 258 00:15:46,879 --> 00:15:50,720 Boise State getting a bye, I think that really showed 259 00:15:50,759 --> 00:15:54,720 a lot of fairness to the G five schools and 260 00:15:54,759 --> 00:15:57,480 has really, you know, it's made it a true open playoff. 261 00:15:57,519 --> 00:15:59,879 There's not a there's not a coach out there a 262 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:03,720 G five school that can go to his team and say, hey, 263 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,279 we can play the best football we can play in 264 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,840 the world, and we're not going to make the playoff. 265 00:16:09,279 --> 00:16:13,159 We're gonna get shafted into a road game because Boise 266 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,240 State in year one is going to get a it's 267 00:16:16,279 --> 00:16:19,399 going to get a bye. And you know, given the 268 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,840 way the scenario worked out, where if SMU would have won, 269 00:16:24,159 --> 00:16:28,080 they would have been ahead of Arizona State, or now 270 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,919 with Clemson winning, they get fifth that spot. I think 271 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,200 that that's okay, And you can argue about the schedule, 272 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:41,279 but you know the fact is that Boise State lost 273 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,759 one game to the number one team in the country 274 00:16:43,919 --> 00:16:48,279 in a very close game. I mean, you know, so 275 00:16:48,519 --> 00:16:51,080 they got the buy and I'm okay with it. So 276 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,440 I'm totally in agreement with you, Matthew. The College Football 277 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,519 Committee did a great job. We don't know how much 278 00:16:58,559 --> 00:17:00,759 longer this is going to last. Before for Greg Sank 279 00:17:00,799 --> 00:17:04,400 he tries to destroy it in a couple of years 280 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,240 by you know, having four sec and you know, Tony 281 00:17:08,279 --> 00:17:11,440 Petiti try to get their four auto bids and just 282 00:17:11,519 --> 00:17:14,799 ruin the whole thing. But for one year you got 283 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:19,400 a little bit of a shot in the arm of 284 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:22,759 having kind of integrity restored to the whole process. And 285 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,359 I don't know how long it'll last, but at least 286 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,240 for one year, you know, you kind of brought back 287 00:17:29,319 --> 00:17:34,039 what's really great about college football and that you got 288 00:17:34,039 --> 00:17:37,960 all kinds of teams having a chance. You didn't overdo 289 00:17:38,039 --> 00:17:42,640 it with with other conferences, even the money making ones 290 00:17:42,839 --> 00:17:46,000 until you really feel like this was an open, open playoff. 291 00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: Excellent, Jake, Jeff. So here's my next question. 292 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,319 Speaker 3: Then, can SMU or Clemson make a run in the 293 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,319 college football playoffs? 294 00:18:04,519 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: I think they can, and and the and the and 295 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:13,400 the reason I do think that that it's possible that 296 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,079 they could make a run. Is when when you're in 297 00:18:17,079 --> 00:18:19,839 the double digit seed and and you're going on the 298 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,680 road against you know, the five, six or seven or 299 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,759 eight team, You're gonna get a tough game there. There's 300 00:18:26,799 --> 00:18:33,319 no like easy outs there. But I think of avoiding, 301 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,079 you know, the the offense at Tennessee, avoiding you know, 302 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:43,599 a really talented Ohio State team who who you know, 303 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,200 might be a top three team in the country except 304 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:51,240 when they play Michigan. You've avoided them. You've avoided Notre Dame, 305 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,359 who I think might be playing as well as anyone 306 00:18:55,400 --> 00:19:01,000 not named Oregon in the whole country. You Texas team 307 00:19:01,279 --> 00:19:04,759 for Clemson, who I think you physically match up reasonably 308 00:19:04,799 --> 00:19:08,279 well with. I know Texas has has a really great defense, 309 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,960 and a lot's going to depend on how healthy Clemson 310 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:14,039 is in the backfield. But I don't think Clemson is 311 00:19:14,079 --> 00:19:18,200 going to be overwhelmed, you know, by the talent that 312 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,680 that Texas has. And if they win that game, this 313 00:19:21,759 --> 00:19:24,759 is where the real run can start. Is they'll get 314 00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:28,920 Arizona State in the Peach Bowl in Atlanta, and that's 315 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,720 going to be probably a very that's going to be 316 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:36,720 a partisan Clemson crowd. And that's why I think when 317 00:19:36,759 --> 00:19:39,960 you look at you know how this all could turn out. 318 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,319 You know, Clemson has an opportunity, a real opportunity to 319 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,880 make a run. And I mean, it's going to be 320 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:47,960 very difficult to win in Texas, and not that many 321 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,119 people will expect that that happened. But if you get 322 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:56,039 by that one, you get a matchup where you can 323 00:19:56,039 --> 00:19:59,839 feel like you're going to have the home crowd behind you. 324 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:02,440 Arizona State's a good is a really good team, but 325 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,839 they you know, they're not in the class of some 326 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,279 of the elite teams, and that I don't think anyone 327 00:20:08,279 --> 00:20:13,279 would argue that SMU. I think when you have a 328 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,559 quarterback like Kevin Jennings, you can play with anyone in 329 00:20:17,599 --> 00:20:20,160 the in the country on a given day. And we 330 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,759 know James Franklin's record in big games, he just doesn't 331 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,720 show up. Penn State is a team that plays really 332 00:20:28,839 --> 00:20:32,079 tight in the bigger games. I know they got within 333 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:37,680 a score of Oregon last night, but they were behind 334 00:20:37,759 --> 00:20:40,680 almost the entirety of that game and they were just 335 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,000 trying to play catch up the whole way. And and 336 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,039 I don't know if it's you know, from from the 337 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:49,400 way he coaches or what goes on at Penn State. 338 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,279 But when they're in a big game, they get really 339 00:20:53,079 --> 00:20:57,720 they get really tight. And I think SMU has an opportunity, 340 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,480 especially if if if Jenny can you know, stay clear 341 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,240 in the pocket, use his legs when you have a 342 00:21:06,279 --> 00:21:11,200 quarterback like that. And I think the Penn State defense 343 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,160 is not that far frommoved from the talent that Clemson brought. 344 00:21:15,799 --> 00:21:18,480 And when Jennings got going, I mean he was slicing 345 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:21,359 up Clemson's defense really good, and I don't think that's 346 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,119 out of the question. He can do some of that 347 00:21:24,079 --> 00:21:26,920 against Penn State. We saw with Dylan Gaber Well they dropped, 348 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,240 like I think they're more than forty points on Penn 349 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:34,039 State's defense last night. So I think there's you know, 350 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,119 it's not going to be easy, obviously, but I think 351 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:41,200 there's opportunities for Clemson and SMU to make runs, particularly 352 00:21:41,279 --> 00:21:59,240 Clemson if they can get by that Texas game. All right, Matthew, 353 00:21:59,359 --> 00:21:59,960 still with us? 354 00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:06,039 Speaker 2: Sorry, I was on med can you hear me? 355 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,039 Speaker 1: Yep? Perfect? 356 00:22:08,599 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 3: Okay, So I asked you a question, man, Sorry, I 357 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,400 was on my apologies, I was on on meute here. Uh, 358 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,160 I want to ask you a question about the FCS 359 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,160 playoff bracket. Okay, you're ready, You're ready for it. Jeff, 360 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,960 I'm gonna be really quick. You know, you know this 361 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,559 is this should be the easiest question you answer all day. 362 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,400 These are the four games. Former North Dakota State state 363 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:37,559 assistant uh, the offensive coordinator, the head coach of Montana State, 364 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,599 number uh, number one seed in the entire playoffs, right, 365 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:41,920 takes on Idaho. 366 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: That's a one versus eight game. Who wins that? 367 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,039 Speaker 1: Give me? Give me the one seed in. 368 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,559 Speaker 2: That one Montana State, Okay. 369 00:22:49,599 --> 00:22:54,279 Speaker 3: North Dakota State takes on Mercer from Georgia and in Fargo. 370 00:22:55,279 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm never gonna bet against North Dakota State. 371 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: And okay. 372 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:04,759 Speaker 3: South Dakota State takes on the University of Incarnate Ward 373 00:23:05,039 --> 00:23:06,480 in Brookings, South Dakota. 374 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: Give me South Dakota, okay. 375 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: And finally, South Dakota takes on UC Davis. This is 376 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,079 the quarters in South Dakota. 377 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:16,599 Speaker 2: Who wins? 378 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: Jeff, Hey, give me another Dakota team. 379 00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? 380 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:21,519 Speaker 3: Jeff? 381 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is. 382 00:23:23,799 --> 00:23:26,759 Speaker 2: Why I asked that question. You got all these northern 383 00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:28,279 teams that. 384 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,319 Speaker 3: Are I mean, I agree with every one of your picks. 385 00:23:31,559 --> 00:23:34,680 They're all going to be in the in the semis. 386 00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:39,319 Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? Yeah, I mean it's very cool. Okay, 387 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,640 what do you got for us, Jeff, what do you 388 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,720 got for us? Open mic? 389 00:23:44,079 --> 00:23:48,839 Speaker 1: Well, I think we've you know, i've shared, you know, 390 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,119 my opinions on the on the CFP, what the playoffs 391 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,160 will look like. I know we'll get into the bowl games, 392 00:23:55,960 --> 00:24:00,440 probably more in detail in the future podcast. Let's talk 393 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:06,440 a little bit about ACC basketball. Unfortunately, the ACC SEC 394 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:12,279 Challenge win is very much the way we expected last week, 395 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,440 maybe even a little bit worse. There's no other way 396 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,680 to describe it. You know, the ACC got wood shedded 397 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,880 by the AC, by the SEC top to bottom. I mean, 398 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,160 it was it was. It was bad. I mean it 399 00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:31,400 was fourteen to two and a lot of the games 400 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,640 weren't competitive. If there is a slight silver lining to it, 401 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,640 if you're gonna win just two games, make the two 402 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,200 games really count and you know, don't have it be 403 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,680 over like some unranked middle of the road SEC team. 404 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,839 Make it you know, one of their one of their 405 00:24:49,839 --> 00:24:56,079 best teams. And the two ACC teams, I think now 406 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,240 many consider the two best in the league now knocked 407 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:03,559 off arguably the two best teams in the SEC. And 408 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,759 I'm talking about Clemson, who has just the one loss 409 00:25:06,759 --> 00:25:11,119 at Boise State. They got to win over Penn State 410 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,000 a couple of weeks ago in a pre conference tournament. 411 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,799 That Penn State team just beat Purdue. And they knocked 412 00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:23,640 off Kentucky at Little john last Tuesday night, a game 413 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,279 I was at, and it was an absolutely unbelievable atmosphere. 414 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,559 Between that backcourt, Chase Hunter and the BC transfer Zachary, 415 00:25:34,839 --> 00:25:39,319 they did things to control the tempo against Kentucky that 416 00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:41,599 nobody else has been able to do. I mean, remember, 417 00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:45,880 this Kentucky team already beat Duke and last night they 418 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,240 were down eighteen to a really, really good Gonzaga team 419 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,759 and came back in won. Kentucky's one of the five 420 00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:56,000 or six best teams in the country, and now Clemson's 421 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,680 got to win over them, and that backcourt allows them 422 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:03,240 to play with just about anyone. And you know, they 423 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,519 followed it up with a win at Miami. If Clemson's 424 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:09,559 not ranked in the top fifteen in the next poll, 425 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,039 somebody's not watching college basketball because Brandell's got them playing 426 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,519 extremely well. You know, then you go and talk about 427 00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:21,279 Duke who picked up the other the other win, and 428 00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:26,359 I think it was clear Duke, you know, might have 429 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,559 as talented of roster as any in college basketball, but 430 00:26:30,599 --> 00:26:34,240 they're young and they were not closing out games that 431 00:26:34,279 --> 00:26:36,640 they probably should have won. They probably should have wins 432 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,680 over Kentucky and Kansas, you know, two teams that they 433 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,160 as good as those teams are, I thought, I thought 434 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,039 Duke out played them for the majority of those games 435 00:26:46,079 --> 00:26:48,200 and then kind of fell apart, you know, in the 436 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:51,039 last two minutes. And whether it was there any experience 437 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,319 in youth or John Shire just you know, not getting 438 00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:59,279 the ball in the right the hands are their right person. 439 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,559 You are to wonder a little bit, you know, is 440 00:27:01,839 --> 00:27:05,720 Duke not going to reach their their potential, you know, 441 00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:09,039 and be a Final Four capable team. Well they they 442 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,240 they showed what they're capable of when they held off 443 00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:17,359 an Auburn team that ran through an elite field at MAUI. 444 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,960 I mean, Auburt is going to probably win like thirty 445 00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:23,720 thirty two games this year. They were extremely good. And 446 00:27:23,799 --> 00:27:28,200 for Duke to you know, take take some really hard 447 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,400 shots from Auburn and come away with the win. And 448 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,920 then tonight against Louisville, they were in a tight game 449 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,680 and then just you know, blew them out off the 450 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,400 court over the last seven or eight minutes to win. 451 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,519 I think you've seen Duke, you know, turn the corner 452 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,200 from being just a pretty good team, a good team 453 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,640 to one that's capable of winning the national championship. And 454 00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:54,160 I think you're going to see Duke win seventeen eighteen 455 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,039 nineteen games in the ACC this year. I think they 456 00:27:57,079 --> 00:28:02,400 are a very very good team that starting to find themselves. 457 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,240 And so, you know, last week was a disaster for 458 00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:11,039 the ACC, but Duke and Clemson, you know, showed that 459 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,039 Duke can win a national championship. I don't think Clemson 460 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,319 can quite do that, but I could see if Clemson 461 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,519 maintains this trajectory, you know, they could find themselves in 462 00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:25,759 the Elite eight again. So really bad week for the ACC, 463 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,839 but two teams really stood out and did and and 464 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,799 produced a couple of marquee Q one wins. 465 00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: I'm with you, Jeff, I'm with you, and I'll say this. 466 00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: I think it's very possible, and you can tell me 467 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,160 if I'm wrong. Now, I think my friend Tim, you know, 468 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,279 our friend Tim Thomas has been on here a few 469 00:28:47,319 --> 00:28:50,440 times and he said, oh, you know, Virginia Tech could 470 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,440 be like, you know, like that Notre Dame that was 471 00:28:53,519 --> 00:28:55,359 a you know, a thorn in the side of everybody, 472 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,079 because they'll get better as this season goes along. Well, 473 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:03,119 I don't necessarily agree with that, because Virginia Tech, in 474 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,720 my opinion is isn't as physical as that Notre Dame 475 00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:08,400 team was last year. I don't think that's a valid comparison. 476 00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:13,440 But I do think that if you if you decide 477 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,480 that you're gonna sleep walk at the castle that can 478 00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:20,160 come back to haunt you, would you agree with that, Jeff? 479 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,200 Because it came pretty I mean, Virginia Tech is playing 480 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,200 I think with a not with an acc roster and 481 00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:30,960 and almost be pitt Uh. You know this this past 482 00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:34,799 this past weekend, this past weekend on Saturday, and I was, 483 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,039 I was, I I didn't think that Virginia Tech honestly 484 00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:40,720 would have I thought I thought they would actually get 485 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,720 blown out in that game. 486 00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: And I wrote that. 487 00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: I wrote that, I wrote that before on the All 488 00:29:46,079 --> 00:29:48,599 Sports Discussion Twitter record and I said, watch the hookies 489 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,279 just get smoke by double digits here, right, And they 490 00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:56,559 were ahead up until like two minutes to go. And 491 00:29:57,319 --> 00:30:00,799 I mean, I don't expect to good season at all 492 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,160 for the Hokies. I I I think I I I 493 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,839 don't think the Hookies will be winless in ACC play, 494 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,400 but I I think that they will be flirting with 495 00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:13,759 uh flirting with record futility potentially in the ACC. But 496 00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:17,640 I also think that they're gonna sneak up on somebody 497 00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:20,799 some night at the Castle. And it's and and what 498 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,359 I think, Jeff, God, I sound like I'm sarcastic here, Jeff, 499 00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:27,400 But what I think could happen is that Virginia Tech 500 00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:30,920 could is going to be in that role of damaging 501 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,680 somebody's rent net ratings as they get close to the 502 00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:41,039 NCAA Tournament. Am I wrong with that? 503 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: I No, I don't. I don't think so, not at all, 504 00:30:45,759 --> 00:30:52,000 Because the problem is, you know, outside of Duke and Clemson, 505 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:58,279 maybe Pitt, you know, no one has really distinguished themselves 506 00:30:58,279 --> 00:31:00,720 in the pre conference part of the SEA. So you 507 00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:04,599 got you're gonna have a bunch of teams that are 508 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,279 gonna have to use the ACC conference season to get 509 00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:12,079 into the NCAA Tournament. And that means a lot of 510 00:31:12,119 --> 00:31:16,079 teams unless they're winning sixteen seventeen ACC games are gonna 511 00:31:16,079 --> 00:31:18,839 be on the bubble and and if any of these 512 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,240 bottom teams, and that's why I think it was so 513 00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:24,400 critical for Pitt even if they won by a point 514 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,839 to get out of Blacksburg with a win, and they 515 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,799 managed to do that. But you know other teams that 516 00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:31,440 are going to be kind of in and around that 517 00:31:31,519 --> 00:31:35,319 bubble during the course of the season. If they get 518 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,920 up and then get bit by a Virginia Tech or 519 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,680 a Miami or a Georgia Tech. You know teams that 520 00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:44,519 are you know, but not gonna make the NCAA tournament, 521 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:47,680 let's be honest, but you know, on a given night 522 00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:51,559 produces an upset, you know, it could be pretty damaging 523 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,160 for those for those teams. I mean, I think you 524 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,000 go into the season, especially in North Carolina, is a 525 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,480 bubble going to probably be a bubble team at this 526 00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:06,680 point unless you know they get that interior play fixed. 527 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,680 I mean, you're going into a c C play and 528 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,759 I think the only one two teams you feel comfortable 529 00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,559 about their NCAA hopes, like really comfortable at the moment, 530 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,079 or Clemson Duke and probably Pit And I think the 531 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,799 ACC ends up with with six or seven bids that 532 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,160 means four teams have to are gonna be sweating it 533 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,359 out every night. I'm not sure which ones it's gonna be, 534 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,839 but I mean I could see Wake Forest in that mix, 535 00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:40,640 North Carolina in that mix. I think NC State is 536 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,400 going to be in a position where they could be 537 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,279 one of the better ACC teams. But getting into the 538 00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:52,279 NCAA Tournament is all gonna, you know, come down to 539 00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:54,599 those kind of games you're talking about, where the bottom 540 00:32:54,599 --> 00:32:57,200 of the league, those teams that struggled in the pre conference, 541 00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:00,119 you know, get a little better and then not to 542 00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:01,759 knock somebody off at home. 543 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:06,079 Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely. 544 00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:10,599 Speaker 3: And on that note, Jeff, thanks for having a great 545 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,039 discussion about ACC football. Make sure I'll make sure I 546 00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:18,279 confirm this next week and ACC men's basketball. I should 547 00:33:18,279 --> 00:33:20,599 say I'll make say make sure I confirm this next week. 548 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,599 But Terry Johnson will should be here next week with 549 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,839 us from the old from the old College Footballnews dot Com. 550 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,160 He should be here with us. And then to close 551 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,680 out the season, it will be Matt Simmick from Trojan's 552 00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:39,000 Wire and formerly College Footballnews dot Com. 553 00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: He's been all over the place. 554 00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 3: So we've got a couple of really good guests to 555 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,440 close the season out, and uh, you know, I I'm 556 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,400 looking forward to it. I mean, we'll we'll, we'll be 557 00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,519 we'll be able to talk some talk, some talk, some 558 00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:53,559 fun college football. 559 00:33:53,640 --> 00:34:04,079 Speaker 1: So Jeff, have a great week, all right, great