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Speaker 2: I can honestly say this was one of the most
Speaker 2: fascinating and thought provoking conversations I've had in a while.
Speaker 2: Doc is an incredible researcher and storyteller who brings scripture
Speaker 2: to life in ways most people have never heard before.
Speaker 2: His book, Epic of Esau digs deep into the mysteries
Speaker 2: surrounding Esau's lineage, hybrid bloodlines, and how that story connects
Speaker 2: to the world we are living in today. I had
Speaker 2: such a great time talking with him. His passion, his insight,
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Speaker 2: Epic of Esau and check out his podcast, Prometheus Lens.
Speaker 2: Now let's bring Doc Brown into this conversation. Enjoy the show. Loha, Justin,
Speaker 2: and welcome to the show. I'm really glad that you're here. Now.
Speaker 2: I've heard you so many times on your podcast and
Speaker 2: I'm really happy that you're here joining us today. And
Speaker 2: i'd love to talk about your new book, Epic of Esau.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's fascinating, thought provoking and opens up part
Speaker 2: of biblical history that most people never look at. So
Speaker 2: before we dive into these deeper layers, maybe you can
Speaker 2: tell the listeners a little bit about yourself, your podcast,
Speaker 2: the Prometheus Lens that I love, and what led you
Speaker 2: down this path that inspired Epic of Esau.
Speaker 5: Now, I appreciate you having me, but yeah, I'm just
Speaker 5: Justin Brow. I kind of got the nickname Doc. I
Speaker 5: tell people all the time it's I'm a Southern man.
Speaker 5: If you couldn't tell, but we have. We're infamous for oxymorons.
Speaker 5: We're that type of crowd that will take a seven
Speaker 5: foot tall guy I name him Tiny. So I think
Speaker 5: that's kind of how I got my name is. You know,
Speaker 5: when I speak to hear the banjo's play, So when
Speaker 5: you actually listen to what I say, it kind of
Speaker 5: blows people's minds. I guess they don't expect what I
Speaker 5: talk about to come out of a voice like this
Speaker 5: as a Southern man, so I got that nickname. But
Speaker 5: I'm just a nine to five knuckle dragger. I've been
Speaker 5: a factory rat. My whole life was a wild, crazy
Speaker 5: kid in and out of jail, and the baddest of
Speaker 5: the bad man. It was never an intellectual. I never
Speaker 5: liked to read, but I always loved history. I always
Speaker 5: loved sitting down and listening to my old man talk
Speaker 5: about the good old days and stories and history and
Speaker 5: my grandpa. That was about the only subject in school
Speaker 5: that I paid it attention to. But when I was younger,
Speaker 5: I loved the Bible. I thought that stuff was fascinating
Speaker 5: because I was like, if you're going to be an
Speaker 5: expert at anything, why would it not be the word
Speaker 5: of God. So I was that kid in Sunday school,
Speaker 5: always asking questions and probably getting on the teacher's nerves.
Speaker 5: So those are two subjects that I was always fascinated with.
Speaker 5: But it was just I don't know, a switch. It
Speaker 5: was around twenty twelve I got exposed to Tray Smith
Speaker 5: from God in a Nutshell and he's kind of the
Speaker 5: guy that red peeled me, as they say in these circles.
Speaker 5: But he was talking about a bunch of stuff, man,
Speaker 5: that I just didn't think was in the Bible. He
Speaker 5: was talking about angels coming down, breathing with the men,
Speaker 5: and the daughters of men and having Nephelom giants and
Speaker 5: possible UFOs spacecrafts in the Bible and just vampires and
Speaker 5: Harry Wildman all this stuff, and I'm like, man, this
Speaker 5: guy is crazy. He's just making up stuff for clicks
Speaker 5: that ain't in there. So I started breaking over my
Speaker 5: Bible again looking through all the stuff, and yeah, man,
Speaker 5: all that stuff was there. And I'm like, I need
Speaker 5: to go back and relook at this thing that I
Speaker 5: thought I knew so well. And it kind of just
Speaker 5: got me on this path. And long story short, just
Speaker 5: some conversation with some friends ended up them saying, hey, man,
Speaker 5: we're talking about a lot of pretty profound stuff here.
Speaker 5: You should be doing a podcast. And lo and behold
Speaker 5: here I am today. And even with the book, I
Speaker 5: never ever thought that I would be somebody that wrote
Speaker 5: a book. You know, I let alone read one, so
Speaker 5: writing one was definitely not in my thought process. But
Speaker 5: here we are, but joking around with some friends once again.
Speaker 5: We were talking about bigfoot. We had actually Trey Smith
Speaker 5: on the show, and we were having a conversation Tray
Speaker 5: by the way, awesome guy. We're good friends. We got
Speaker 5: each other's falling number, We text and stuff all the time.
Speaker 5: He's a really good dude. But we were talking one
Speaker 5: day and he said, Hell, you guys are from Tennessee.
Speaker 5: That's bigfoot country. Next time i'm that way, we'll go
Speaker 5: on a big foot hunt. What do you say, Well,
Speaker 5: we might even film it. And I said, yeah, man,
Speaker 5: come on down. And Genesis twenty five twenty five just
Speaker 5: popped into my head out of nowhere. And for those
Speaker 5: that's not familiar with that, I mean that is the
Speaker 5: birth of Esau. And it says that the first one
Speaker 5: came out red, covered in hair from head to toe
Speaker 5: like a Harry Cloak. And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: that sounds pretty squatchy to me, man. And so I
Speaker 5: asked Trey. I was like, hey, what do you think
Speaker 5: about Esau? And he was confused, you know, because it
Speaker 5: was it was out of nowhere, and he was like, well,
Speaker 5: what do you mean. I'm like, you know, it says
Speaker 5: he was red covered in hair. I said, do you
Speaker 5: think he might have been maybe the first recorded Sasquatch
Speaker 5: And he kind of laughed and he's like, I don't know, man.
Speaker 5: He said he was a Harry dude, that's for sure.
Speaker 5: And just one thing led to another. I mean, some
Speaker 5: people call it synchronicities, some people caught the Holy spirit.
Speaker 5: But a few weeks letter had Gary Wayne on the show.
Speaker 5: We was doing the Epic of Gilgamesh and we bumped
Speaker 5: into this other Harry Sasquatch sounding guy named Inky Doo.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: Maybe a week or two later, I was reading through
Speaker 5: the Book of Jashure and once again we find Nimrod
Speaker 5: battling uh Esau, this Harry man to the death. And
Speaker 5: I just kept finding all these Harry Men, you know,
Speaker 5: through ancient history and scriptures, and I was like, man,
Speaker 5: I have to see where this goes.
Speaker 3: And it just led to the writing of the Epic
Speaker 3: of Esau.
Speaker 2: That is crazy. Does Gary Wayne think that Esau is
Speaker 2: also maybe a sasquash? A big thing?
Speaker 3: Uh? No.
Speaker 5: The I love Gary, but Gary is uh. He's really
Speaker 5: strict with his stuff. It's like he leaves no room
Speaker 5: for speculation. If this, if the text doesn't say it,
Speaker 5: he's not going to go with it, you know. And
Speaker 5: I respect him for that. But I'm the type of
Speaker 5: person that and I get some people ruffled when I
Speaker 5: say this, but I'm just being honest.
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm a Christian.
Speaker 5: I believe the Bible is the divine inspired word of God.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, I'm a realist. Do I
Speaker 5: think that the Bible has everything we need to know
Speaker 5: as far as history and all the stories these people
Speaker 5: know because the book would not be readable. You could
Speaker 5: read a chapter a day for the rest of your
Speaker 5: life and still not get through it. So everything is
Speaker 5: not in there, but the foundational stuff is there. The
Speaker 5: main talking points in the overall view is there. So
Speaker 5: a lot of people are afraid to kind of go
Speaker 5: into the extra biblical books and some of these mythologies
Speaker 5: and different things like that. I'm not if it goes
Speaker 5: along with the Bible and doesn't contradict it and fills
Speaker 5: in gaps and gives more context to the story. What
Speaker 5: I love to dive into because when I have done this,
Speaker 5: you know, this book was a two year session, and
Speaker 5: I read all of Lewis Ginsburg's Legends of the Jews.
Speaker 5: I read all the extra biblical books and apocrypha, the Midrashes,
Speaker 5: the writings of Rashi and some of these rabbis of
Speaker 5: ancient times, and it kind of put me in the
Speaker 5: mindset of the ancient people, because I tell people, they
Speaker 5: weren't thinking of us thousands of years ago. They were
Speaker 5: thinking about the people of the time because they were
Speaker 5: of that time. They were writing to people of that time.
Speaker 5: And I tell them that's why Genesis sixth you just
Speaker 5: have this little blurb and us today is like, man,
Speaker 5: it's a pretty big deal. I want some more context
Speaker 5: on that. Well, back then they were like, We're not
Speaker 5: going to be the dead horse. We have the Book
Speaker 5: of Enoch. Everybody knows about the giants and the fallen
Speaker 5: angels coming down and breeding with the women.
Speaker 3: That's going to be redundant. I'm not going to tell
Speaker 3: that story.
Speaker 5: It's already been told and everybody already knows.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: Us today were like, no, we don't know. So I
Speaker 5: think reading all those things and being familiar with the
Speaker 5: culture and the mythologies that the people at that time
Speaker 5: are very important because it fills in the gaps of
Speaker 5: a lot of these stories.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in your book you explore Esau's bloodline in a
Speaker 2: way that most people have never even considered. Can you
Speaker 2: talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And now, honestly, that was Gary Wayne's work was
Speaker 5: a huge aid into me finding this stuff out. It's
Speaker 5: just where Gary stopped at certain points. I just kept going,
Speaker 5: you know, and I tell people I lay out my
Speaker 5: references in the book and what scripture says and what
Speaker 5: this book says that I found, and then I'll tell you, hey, well,
Speaker 5: if you take this, this and this and put together,
Speaker 5: it leads me to believe X y Z. And so
Speaker 5: I go into speculation, but I try to let you
Speaker 5: know when I do, and show you the pieces that
Speaker 5: I found to get me there. But with Gary, when
Speaker 5: I read his book The Genesis six Theory, he was
Speaker 5: talking about Esau and how he kind of focused in
Speaker 5: on that he married into Nephlum giant clans. And so
Speaker 5: when I seen that, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: he just kind of touched on that little caveat I
Speaker 5: was like, I want to dive really dive into that,
Speaker 5: and when I did, it was really telling. So not
Speaker 5: only do you have this Harry quote unquote man being
Speaker 5: born named Esau, he marries three wives and two of
Speaker 5: those three are known Nephlum giant clans. So and then
Speaker 5: it menches his father in law named Sierra, and that
Speaker 5: he reigned. He was a chieftain, a war chieftain who
Speaker 5: reigned from the land of Mount Sierra. And when you
Speaker 5: go into the etymology of that word, that word means
Speaker 5: harry means rough rugged harry.
Speaker 3: Like like a oats fur.
Speaker 5: So I was like, here, we have this Harry quote
Speaker 5: unquote man named Esau and he's marrying into Nephilim giant
Speaker 5: clans who's known their name. You know, they're known to
Speaker 5: be rough, rugged harry giants. They're Faral giants basically, and
Speaker 5: they start getting together and they breed together. I think
Speaker 5: that has a really high likelihood of throwing some really
Speaker 5: strange pups, you know, to say the least. And when
Speaker 5: you dive on through the genealogies, you find out that
Speaker 5: through this inner marriage and this breeding, a Malik is
Speaker 5: born who burst the Amalekite race, you know, kind of
Speaker 5: seared after his name. And once again, when you go
Speaker 5: into the etymology of that word, that means the blood liquors.
Speaker 5: So it's kind of got this vamporistic feel to it.
Speaker 5: So here they are there if they're rugged, they're hairy,
Speaker 5: they're giants, and they are blood liquors. They drink the blood.
Speaker 5: Once again, going back to the stories and everything about
Speaker 5: these guys being cannibals, and you got the whole vamporistic thing.
Speaker 5: And then when I found that some of the stuff
Speaker 5: that happens in the Exodus made a whole lot more
Speaker 5: sense to me because when you get into the Book
Speaker 5: of Exodus, this is when Moses leads the people out
Speaker 5: of Egypt and they have their wilderness wanderings. Well, in
Speaker 5: those books, you know a lot of people skip over
Speaker 5: them because you know, it's boring, it's genealogies, and it's
Speaker 5: a lot of laws. You know, don't do this, don't
Speaker 5: do that, or this one. But got that lived one
Speaker 5: hundred and twenty years and went to be with their ancestors.
Speaker 5: You know, so a lot of us, you know, we
Speaker 5: skip over that stuff. I'm guilty of it myself. But
Speaker 5: when you actually don't go through there like Gary, did
Speaker 5: you do you find some really interesting stuff. And one
Speaker 5: of the things that I found interesting was through this
Speaker 5: Amalekite race, we find that this is the tribe that
Speaker 5: encounters God's people first in their wilderness wanderings. It says
Speaker 5: that basically they had like this militia style warfare, that
Speaker 5: they were picking them off from behind and hiding and
Speaker 5: jumping out, you know, just kind of being thorns in
Speaker 5: their side, messing with them. And when you get into
Speaker 5: Lewis Ginsburg Legends of the Jews, it says that these
Speaker 5: Allects were known to be like basically Viking berserkers. They
Speaker 5: were known for their ferocity and their skills in battle,
Speaker 5: and it said that even when they would kill, you know,
Speaker 5: the Jews and pick them off in the wilderness, that
Speaker 5: they would even cut off the men's foulus and then
Speaker 5: throw it into the air and taunting their God and
Speaker 5: their people saying, you know, because the circumcision was one
Speaker 5: of their things for devotions, so they would do that
Speaker 5: and say, you know, give their God what he desires.
Speaker 5: So these were real ruthless, cutthroat people, and it takes
Speaker 5: supernatural intervention for them to defeat this group because they
Speaker 5: end up finally going to war. And this is that
Speaker 5: famous story where Moses has to stand on the mountaintop
Speaker 5: over the valley and hold up the rod of Wonder,
Speaker 5: the supernatural rod that was gifted to him that turned
Speaker 5: into a snake and ate pharaoh snakes. That only when
Speaker 5: he held this rod up in the air was his
Speaker 5: people able to overcome them Alakites, and that when he
Speaker 5: would tire and lower the staff, they would start losing
Speaker 5: the battle. So it took supernatural aid from God to
Speaker 5: be able to defeat these clans of warrior giants, these
Speaker 5: sparal giants. And those laws that I mentioned, you don't
Speaker 5: get a rule a law of regulation unlest someone is
Speaker 5: breaking those said rules, laws or regulations. So I think
Speaker 5: it's pretty telling because we know from scripture this was
Speaker 5: the first people group that they encountered, and then all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, you start getting all these rules and laws.
Speaker 3: Well why is that?
Speaker 5: Because they were seeing this practiced by these Amalekites and
Speaker 5: were starting to imitate it, and God had to step
Speaker 5: in and say, no, you can't be doing this because
Speaker 5: it says you shall not drink the blood the life
Speaker 5: forces in the blood. Well, their name means blood liquors, folks.
Speaker 5: It says you won't practice necromancy or seek sorcerers. A
Speaker 5: lot of the writings, including Rashi, talked about they were
Speaker 5: known sorcerers and shape shifters, and that's why God said,
Speaker 5: especially with the Amalekites, he said kill every man, woman,
Speaker 5: and child and animal. That's the only tribe that he commanded,
Speaker 5: even the animals be killed because the legends were that
Speaker 5: they were sorcerers and they were known shape shifters. They
Speaker 5: would shape shift into animals to evade capture. And then
Speaker 5: they also said, no longer will you pass your children
Speaker 5: to the fires of Molek. We know they were passing
Speaker 5: children through the fire and worshiping Molec. So in the
Speaker 5: Book of Isaiah talks about you have to go to
Speaker 5: the septuagen for this translation, but it talks about in
Speaker 5: there that the wild men the satyrs will dance in
Speaker 5: the desolate cities and in the wilderness. So I think
Speaker 5: these are all descriptors and signs pointing to what this
Speaker 5: race of people was like in their practices.
Speaker 2: Well, they seem very barbaric. Are those stories found in
Speaker 2: the Bible or are these found maybe in Enoch or
Speaker 2: another Bible stories.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the main the story that you get in the
Speaker 5: Bible is just that they bumped into the Melkites first,
Speaker 5: and that they were you know, tormenting them and basically
Speaker 5: just being thorns in their side attack and I'm doing
Speaker 5: little things. So it finally led to a battle, and
Speaker 5: that's where you get the Rod of Moses story. But
Speaker 5: all the other stuff that I filled in was just
Speaker 5: from like lewis Kinsburg legends of the Jews. When you
Speaker 5: get into the targums, a lot of these rabbis they
Speaker 5: do translations of the targums. They're basically like synopsis stories
Speaker 5: of the books in the Bible from the Jewish Hebrew perspective,
Speaker 5: so they kind of summarize the books and add little
Speaker 5: caveats to it and stuff.
Speaker 3: So that's where I get all that stuff.
Speaker 5: And far as the uh the rules and the laws
Speaker 5: and all those things, it's just was me speculating putting
Speaker 5: two and two together, because when all these laws were
Speaker 5: coming out, that's when they were in the wilderness wanderings,
Speaker 5: and we know from the scripture that that's when they
Speaker 5: were encountering these people.
Speaker 2: Well, I think I heard you talk on another podcast
Speaker 2: about the pigs and how we can't. Yeah, that was
Speaker 2: the only animal that we weren't able to consume, or
Speaker 2: I guess one of them. We needed to blood let
Speaker 2: most of the animals or all the animals, right, we
Speaker 2: got it cut that, and so they can drain the blood.
Speaker 5: But the pigs that I'm not sure. I think I
Speaker 5: do remember talking to somebody and they had mentioned the
Speaker 5: pigs and how that they had thought that basically it
Speaker 5: was like a nephylemic, Yeah, hybrid, and that's maybe why
Speaker 5: when Jesus cast out the demons out of the moniac
Speaker 5: they went into the pigs. But I can't remember who
Speaker 5: that was, but I think I do remember a conversation
Speaker 5: with somebody and they bringing that up.
Speaker 3: I've never thought of.
Speaker 2: That me neither me neither. Can you explain how the descendants,
Speaker 2: I guess, ties into the larger story of the Nephilins
Speaker 2: or the hybrid bloodline through Esau. Do you believe that's
Speaker 2: part of it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think it's like a twofold type thing because he
Speaker 5: marries into the Nephlin giants and interbreeds with him, So
Speaker 5: then you have this intermingling of the Genesis six bloodline
Speaker 5: with Esau and I think that's you know, if we
Speaker 5: take the description of Esau and these Malakite race giants,
Speaker 5: these Faral giants, I mean, in our modern vernacular, I
Speaker 5: believe that's what we would call a bigfoot today. I mean,
Speaker 5: if we said we saw something that was seven eight
Speaker 5: foot tall, broad shouldered, covered in hair from head to
Speaker 5: toe out in the woods, I mean all of us
Speaker 5: would say, man, I seen a bigfoot or I seeing
Speaker 5: a sasquatch. And that's kind of what the description is
Speaker 5: of these people. And I think that's why you have
Speaker 5: so many legends and lore throughout the world. It doesn't
Speaker 5: matter where you go. You go into Europe, they have
Speaker 5: the stories of Trampis, you go into the eye on
Speaker 5: the Sardinia on the what is that the winter solstice. Now,
Speaker 5: this tradition they do is so arcane. They can't even
Speaker 5: remember why they do it or when it started. They're
Speaker 5: just like, ah, we've done this as long as we
Speaker 5: can remember, so we just keep doing it. We think
Speaker 5: it's to chase off evil spirits. So a good harvest
Speaker 5: comes in the winter goes away. But they don't know.
Speaker 5: But what happens is during this time, all the men
Speaker 5: take black goats fur and cover themselves and from head
Speaker 5: to toe, and they take a black or wooden mask
Speaker 5: and carve it and put on their face. Then they
Speaker 5: strap hundreds of copper bells on their backs. And what happens,
Speaker 5: just like the Book of Isaiah. They dance through the streets,
Speaker 5: ringing the bells, and they chase and abduct women. And
Speaker 5: of course you know modern age been pg you know, modified,
Speaker 5: but I'm sure you know. I mean, they had their
Speaker 5: way with them in those types. And during this festival,
Speaker 5: the children that are coming of age, to show their
Speaker 5: bravery or like a ride of passage, they light a
Speaker 5: huge bonfire and the children have to go and pass
Speaker 5: through the fire, just like you know, they passed the
Speaker 5: children through the fire and molech worship. So I think
Speaker 5: we see a lot of characteristics and signs pointing to
Speaker 5: that this was that group of people and when they
Speaker 5: were migrating north. And I take the viewpoint of la
Speaker 5: Marzouli and Fritz Zimmerman that when Joshua and Caleb and
Speaker 5: the boys were pushing out, pushing them out of the
Speaker 5: Holy Land, trying to exterminate them out of the Holy Land,
Speaker 5: the smart ones seeing what happened to the Amalekites because
Speaker 5: they were the first ones, and they were the fierce
Speaker 5: warrior tribe. Nobody thought they could best, and they took
Speaker 5: care of them with no issue. Then they go into
Speaker 5: to Jericho, this huge wild city. They didn't have to
Speaker 5: lift their sword. They just walked around the place and
Speaker 5: blew their horn. The walls fell down. So the smarter
Speaker 5: ones up north were like, now, man, we got to
Speaker 5: get out of here. So a bunch of them moved north.
Speaker 5: And I think the Phoenicians, the ones that were known
Speaker 5: seafaring people, loaded on their ships and went west and
Speaker 5: went into America. So I think that's kind of what
Speaker 5: happened there with those guys. But another facet of the
Speaker 5: bloodline is, now, this is kind of controversial. I get
Speaker 5: some flack over it, but I'm just telling you. Whether
Speaker 5: it's right or wrong, we can debate. But what we
Speaker 5: cannot debate is that is in the writings of the
Speaker 5: people of the time, and it is the belief of
Speaker 5: the people of the time. Because I can show you
Speaker 5: scriptural evidence, I can show you extra biblical evidence. I
Speaker 5: can show you rabbis writings and teachings to back up
Speaker 5: all this stuff. That I'm saying. So, yeah, we can
Speaker 5: debate all day long if it's factual. You know, that's
Speaker 5: not a heel that I'm prepared to put my cross
Speaker 5: on and die down. But it gets a lot of
Speaker 5: people tore up. But it gets into serpent seed theory,
Speaker 5: and for those that's not familiar with that, there's a
Speaker 5: line of thought in people that thinks that Eve biting
Speaker 5: into the apple was an allegory for a sexual act
Speaker 5: and that there was two seeds planted in her womb,
Speaker 5: one from Adam and one by the serpent. And that's
Speaker 5: why in the cursing, God said, I will put enmity
Speaker 5: between her seed and thy seed, talking to the serpent.
Speaker 5: So there it says plainly both of them are going
Speaker 5: to have a seed. And this all comes after this act.
Speaker 5: All the cursings from God have.
Speaker 3: To do with sexual reproduction.
Speaker 5: He says the woman would have painful menstruation, that she
Speaker 5: would have a labor and child bearing. When what happens,
Speaker 5: like when this act happens and they catch them.
Speaker 3: They cover up their reproductive organs.
Speaker 5: You know, it's like if you get caught eating a
Speaker 5: cookie in the kitchen when your mom said you couldn't.
Speaker 5: What are you gonna do. You're gonna cover that mouth
Speaker 5: because that's where the sin was, that's where you transgress,
Speaker 5: that's what you want to hide. And so with that thought,
Speaker 5: though this is in the Book of Genesis, you go
Speaker 5: just a few chapters down came the evil one from
Speaker 5: the Sea of the Serpent. There was entity between the
Speaker 5: two because he killed Abel. And then just a few
Speaker 5: chapters down we have this birth of Esau. And this
Speaker 5: is a polaroid picture of Genesis three fifteen. There's no
Speaker 5: way around it. I mean, you can skate and try
Speaker 5: to bend scripture and do what you want, but I mean,
Speaker 5: if you just let it say what it says, it
Speaker 5: is a perfect picture of Genesis three fifteen, because what
Speaker 5: was He says that there'd be entity war between the two,
Speaker 5: that one would bruise one's head and the other would
Speaker 5: bruise the other's heel. So the ancient reader they're reading
Speaker 5: the Book of Genesis, Genesis three fifteen has just happened.
Speaker 5: There's just a few chapters away, so that event is
Speaker 5: fresh on their mind. Then they get to Genesis twenty
Speaker 5: five twenty five, and this is the birth of Esau.
Speaker 5: The first one come out red covered and had to
Speaker 5: toe whoa, that's a big red flag. Then the angel,
Speaker 5: the Lord says, there's two people, two nations are in
Speaker 5: your womb, and they struggle together within your womb. That's
Speaker 5: another red flag. And then it says the younger shall
Speaker 5: rule over the older, another red flag. The cultural norm
Speaker 5: was the eldest got the birth right, and the eldest
Speaker 5: ruled over the younger. The younger served the older. So
Speaker 5: you have all these red flags popping up with that
Speaker 5: we miss in modernancy, but the ancient people would have
Speaker 5: picked up on that immediately. So then you get the birth.
Speaker 5: Esaw comes out first, covered in hair. His foot has
Speaker 5: to push on Jacob's head, possibly bruising the head, exiting
Speaker 5: the womb.
Speaker 3: And then here's the hand of Jacob. What was he got.
Speaker 5: He's got his hand on the heel, bruising the heel.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is a perfect polaroid picture of Genesis
Speaker 5: three fifteen and all the ancient writings Ginsburg legends of
Speaker 5: that you use Jasher Rashi, the medieval rabbi, and the
Speaker 5: targems especially, all of these writings point to Esau being
Speaker 5: a serpent seed, and the targems it goes in it
Speaker 5: says that they had guardian angels. It says that I'm
Speaker 5: trying to think now, uh, Jacob had a guardian angel.
Speaker 5: His guardian angel was Gabriel. But Esau also had a
Speaker 5: guardian angel to his guardian angel was semi l. And
Speaker 5: this was for those who start from me here, this
Speaker 5: was the Hebrew name and legend and lore that this was,
Speaker 5: you know, the Satan, the Hasatan, the Nakasha's name before
Speaker 5: the fall, and he was known as the angel of Death,
Speaker 5: the viper of God. And Esau was known to be
Speaker 5: a mighty hunter and a lot of times when that
Speaker 5: phrase is used, just not talking about animals, just talking about.
Speaker 3: Hunter of men.
Speaker 5: This is the same title Nimrod had. And it also
Speaker 5: says that when he was born he had a serpent's
Speaker 5: branding on his body, and that and while Rebecca was pregnant,
Speaker 5: when she would walk by a house that was in
Speaker 5: service to Yahueh, that Jacob would stir with excitement. But
Speaker 5: when she would walk by a house that was in
Speaker 5: service to a pagan god, that Jacob or Esau would
Speaker 5: stir with excitement. So all these writings point to the
Speaker 5: fact that they believed Esau was of the serpent seed.
Speaker 5: So if that is true, you have already this serpent seed.
Speaker 5: And a lot of people want to point to Genesis
Speaker 5: six and say, oh, that's the serpent seed. No, that's
Speaker 5: not that's the fallen angel seed. That's not Satan's seed.
Speaker 5: That's a whole different thing. But if that is true,
Speaker 5: with this act, if him marrying into these Nephelin giant clans,
Speaker 5: you have the sons of the fallen Angels breeding with
Speaker 5: the serpent seed and making this race.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is deep. And now I know it's possible,
Speaker 2: medically possible that a woman could have two different carry
Speaker 2: two different babies from two different seeds. My question is,
Speaker 2: would Rebecca have favor in Jehovah's eyes. I don't know
Speaker 2: if if they're saying that she was had infidelity and
Speaker 2: been with another man or something else maybe came along
Speaker 2: and created a miracle in her body like Jesus basically,
Speaker 2: but from obviously not from Jehovah, but from maybe Samuel
Speaker 2: the demon.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's something too, because people ask me that,
Speaker 5: because of course, I mean, that's the first question you're
Speaker 5: going to come up with.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like, well, why is he so different.
Speaker 5: Well, the scripture doesn't say, but these other extra biblical
Speaker 5: books and stuff, you know, lay that stuff out and
Speaker 5: like I said, it could be true. It could be Uh,
Speaker 5: it even could be that Esau because a lot of
Speaker 5: people tend to forget these books were not written in
Speaker 5: real time. These were oral traditions and stories of the
Speaker 5: people for thousands of years, and then eventually, once they
Speaker 5: learned how to write and keep records, someone decided to
Speaker 5: write these down. So they're written down and looking back,
Speaker 5: possibly thousands of.
Speaker 3: Years later, so.
Speaker 5: There's probably some little details missed, you know, over time,
Speaker 5: but the overall story is there. So when you ask that,
Speaker 5: you know, how did that happen? I mean it could be. Now,
Speaker 5: like I said, I don't know. I throw out possibilities here.
Speaker 5: It could very well be that looking back, they knew
Speaker 5: that Esau was an evil man and they decided to
Speaker 5: paint him as a serpent seed in a negative light,
Speaker 5: and maybe he truly wasn't you know. When you go
Speaker 5: into the medical field, there's actually terminology to describe.
Speaker 3: The birth of Esau.
Speaker 5: And I never knew this until I got the researching
Speaker 5: in this book and kind of going down this rabbit hole,
Speaker 5: but they call it hypertrixosis. And this is you know,
Speaker 5: in the medical field, and there's been studies and documented
Speaker 5: people and what this is is this was cool. I
Speaker 5: never realized this. But when you are in the womb,
Speaker 5: we are all covered in hair, every single one of us.
Speaker 5: And then at a certain point, you know, probably in
Speaker 5: the last trimester, the DNA of the child is told
Speaker 5: to shed that hair because it's about to exit the wound,
Speaker 5: but don't need it anymore. And in some cases there's
Speaker 5: a malfunction in the DNA and they don't shed that
Speaker 5: hair and they come out covered in hair. And you
Speaker 5: can google it, man. I mean there's even people today born.
Speaker 5: I got a picture of a book, a picture in
Speaker 5: the book from a girl. I think it was in India,
Speaker 5: and it wasn't that long ago, it's within the past
Speaker 5: decad and she was covered in hair. It looked like
Speaker 5: something straight out teen Wolf. And you go through the histories,
Speaker 5: there's plenty of people documented like this, and this is
Speaker 5: where you get the what do you call it? I'm
Speaker 5: trying to be politically correct here, but I don't think
Speaker 5: you can be. But the freak shows, you know, back
Speaker 5: in the day he paid a quarter to go see
Speaker 5: the Beard de Lady or the wolf Man. That's what
Speaker 5: these people were. They had this genetic malfunction and was
Speaker 5: covered in hair like Eastau was. You know, could this
Speaker 5: be an ephylemic corruption of the DNA pool that's kind
Speaker 5: of got diluted and just randomly pops up from time
Speaker 5: to time. Could very well be. But regardless, you have
Speaker 5: all these people documented. And one that I talked about
Speaker 5: in the book that was really cool was Pedro Gonzalez.
Speaker 5: And you can Google search this guy. He looks just
Speaker 5: straight like Michael J. Fox's dad from Teen Wolf, covered
Speaker 5: in hair, but he's dressed like a noble And I
Speaker 5: can't remember what king it was, but it was a
Speaker 5: king of France had acquired this man when he was
Speaker 5: a child, when he was ten years old. It was
Speaker 5: a gift to him to be in his court. I
Speaker 5: guess for entertainment, you know, like this anomaly. But luckily
Speaker 5: for Pedro, the king loved him and treated him just
Speaker 5: like a son, give him a place at court, dressed
Speaker 5: him in the finest clothes, and actually sent him to
Speaker 5: like the top lawyer school in France, and got all
Speaker 5: of his degrees to be a lawyer, and when the
Speaker 5: king died, he left in his will that Pedro would
Speaker 5: get a piece of land, a castle. That even arranged
Speaker 5: him a marriage with this girl named Elizabeth, and they
Speaker 5: ended up getting married, and they ended up having I
Speaker 5: think four children and two of the girls. It might
Speaker 5: have been three, but I know for a fact two
Speaker 5: of the girls wound up with this same condition. And
Speaker 5: they're all painted, you know, for that time, because they
Speaker 5: didn't have pictures back then, but these girls were painted
Speaker 5: in these pink dresses, but they're covered in hair all over.
Speaker 5: So I know I'm getting long winded here, but I
Speaker 5: was just trying to give the backstory. But as far
Speaker 5: as like what I give in my book, my opinion
Speaker 5: or thoughts on how it happened, it could have been
Speaker 5: an incursion. I mean, she could have been, you know,
Speaker 5: not true to her husband and had a relation with
Speaker 5: a fallen entity. That's a possibility. Could it be that
Speaker 5: she was raped and not willing? Possibly, But I also
Speaker 5: believe that maybe it was some kind of like miracle
Speaker 5: thing because even God, the spirit of God hovered over
Speaker 5: Mary and she conceived Jesus. You know, could the same
Speaker 5: thing have happened? But from the Hastaton. And what I
Speaker 5: talk about in the book is when you dig into
Speaker 5: the backstory of Rebecca, she was from the land of Haran.
Speaker 5: They served many gods. They were pagans, and it says
Speaker 5: that Elias are the cup Bear goes to Iran to
Speaker 5: find a bride for his master's son, bumps into Rebecca,
Speaker 5: and I think it's pretty telling the first interaction between
Speaker 5: Elias R. And Rebecca's father, because he says, I'm my
Speaker 5: master is Abraham, and he has, you know, lots of
Speaker 5: land and livestock and money, and he has a son
Speaker 5: that's looking for a bride. Your daughter would be financially
Speaker 5: well off and protected and well taken care of. I
Speaker 5: want to take her back to my master and his
Speaker 5: Her father responds back with this because he says, and
Speaker 5: we worship the god Yahweh. And he says, well, this
Speaker 5: god Yahweh that you speak of, I can speak neither
Speaker 5: good nor evil.
Speaker 3: So it shows you right. They don't even know.
Speaker 5: Who Yahweh was, so it's safe to assume they were
Speaker 5: worshiping the other gods just like the other people, and
Speaker 5: their fertility gods were like Pan, Seronas Sylvanus. All these
Speaker 5: guys are covered in hair, and they're the fertility gods.
Speaker 5: They're the one that blesses your womb. They're the one
Speaker 5: that blesses your crops. This is the one that they
Speaker 5: would sacrifice to and pray to if they wanted to
Speaker 5: get pregnant or if they wanted their crops to prosper
Speaker 5: and inky do that I mentioned earlier, and that Epica
Speaker 5: gilgam Isssue says that he was created in the image
Speaker 5: of sam Quain, and this was from the land of Haran.
Speaker 5: And when you look up sam Quaan, that's what he was.
Speaker 5: He was a fertility to god, covered in hair from
Speaker 5: head to toe. So she grew up in this house
Speaker 5: worsiping this god covered in hare from head to toe,
Speaker 5: and he was a fertility god. Now when you fast forward,
Speaker 5: a lot of people missed this. But Rebecca had trouble.
Speaker 5: She couldn't conceive. She was getting older in age. And
Speaker 5: if you look at the story of Abraham, the same
Speaker 5: thing happened to Sarah. In this ancient world. This was
Speaker 5: a woman's number one duty. If she couldn't produce a
Speaker 5: male heir and lots of children, she was cast to
Speaker 5: the side and replaced by a younger more fertile woman.
Speaker 5: And Sarah knew this, and that's why she was so scared,
Speaker 5: and that's why she gave Hagar to Abraham. She's like,
Speaker 5: I can't give you no kids, but please don't kick
Speaker 5: me out. Just here, take her breed with her. I'm
Speaker 5: cool with that, you know. So this had to be
Speaker 5: a number one concern of Rebecca. She had to be
Speaker 5: stressed out. And it says that when Rebecca came to
Speaker 5: the family, she took her handmaiden with her. So I
Speaker 5: tell people, I think it's a strong possibility. In this state,
Speaker 5: she was worried to death, afraid she is going to
Speaker 5: be replaced by a younger woman, and this would put
Speaker 5: her in a desperate situation, and desperate situations, you know,
Speaker 5: call for desperate measures. And she come from a land
Speaker 5: worshiping this god from the time she was a child
Speaker 5: to adult breeding age when she was given away.
Speaker 3: I don't think.
Speaker 5: It's out of the question to assume that she would
Speaker 5: turn to a familiar god that she known, that was
Speaker 5: known for fertility and blessing wounds and pray to that
Speaker 5: god to bless her womb. Because Yeahwueh wasn't just like
Speaker 5: Caan Jahueh wasn't blessing Kane, so what did he do?
Speaker 5: He turned to a god that promised that he would
Speaker 5: bless him. So I think that's what happened here, and
Speaker 5: that's why Esau come out covered in hair from head
Speaker 5: to toe, looking just like the fertility gods of the
Speaker 5: land that she worshiped and came from.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's an interesting point. I never thought of that,
Speaker 2: while you're right, because her husband prayed and Jehovah maybe
Speaker 2: gave the one child and then her prayer gave the
Speaker 2: other child. It's a possibility. M that's incredible. Is Esels
Speaker 2: lineage still around today? Are they alive and active?
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 5: I tell people it's like the theory of entropy always
Speaker 5: holds true. You know, nothing gets better with time, it
Speaker 5: gets worse and it gets more diluted, you know, especially
Speaker 5: when you're talking about genealogies and bloodlines. So with all
Speaker 5: the inner breeding and stuff, that that pure bloodline just
Speaker 5: got weaker and weaker and weaker, and I think some
Speaker 5: of those traits just kind of faded away, you know.
Speaker 5: And I think that ultimately when these angelic beings, you know,
Speaker 5: bred with the dollars of men, it's kind of like
Speaker 5: a virus. They inserted something into the system that was
Speaker 5: not supposed to be there. And we know when we
Speaker 5: look at uh, you know, evolution, even micro evolutions. I'm
Speaker 5: not one of these darkness you know people, but they
Speaker 5: use that term. These are built into your DNA for
Speaker 5: to adapt and survive, and some people call that evolution,
Speaker 5: but to me, that's just a micro evolution. That's something
Speaker 5: that's built into the DNA by your creator to survive.
Speaker 5: And so when you have some of these mutations that
Speaker 5: science talks about, then they'll tell you it's random. You know,
Speaker 5: nobody knows they're going to get cancer. It's just a
Speaker 5: random mutation, and you just got a bad draw man.
Speaker 5: And I think that's what it is with this inner breeding.
Speaker 5: You get this gene or something inside of your system
Speaker 5: that's not supposed to be there, and it manifests in
Speaker 5: random things. I think that's why we have giants. I
Speaker 5: think that's why we see elongated skulls all over the world.
Speaker 5: I think that's why you might have, you know, dwarf
Speaker 5: syndrome and just all these different things that's not perfect
Speaker 5: and good. Because it says that God, when he created everything,
Speaker 5: he said it was good. It was good, it was good.
Speaker 5: And then at the end when everything was done, it said.
Speaker 3: It was very good.
Speaker 5: So all these things that are not good according to
Speaker 5: scripture is not from God. So it's from something else.
Speaker 5: But as time goes, it just depletes and you can't
Speaker 5: even see it no more.
Speaker 3: And then maybe randomly, like.
Speaker 5: The hypertrixosis, just pops up out of nowhere because it's
Speaker 5: built in, but it's just been suppressed so much, and
Speaker 5: after a while it rebounds and comes back. And I
Speaker 5: used the team wolf analogy because I think it's a
Speaker 5: perfect analogy. If you guys, remember he starts going through
Speaker 5: this and he starts, you know, changing, his fingernails start
Speaker 5: to grow, and he starts getting hairy, but he starts
Speaker 5: splashing water on his face and gets himself to stop turning. Well,
Speaker 5: one day on a full moon, he can't get it
Speaker 5: to stop, and he totally wolfs out and he's in
Speaker 5: the bathroom. He's like, oh jeez, Louise, you know, and
Speaker 5: his dad hears him. It's like, son, opened the door,
Speaker 5: what's the matter? No, Dad, I'm fine, No, open the door.
Speaker 5: And he's like, all right, and you asked for it,
Speaker 5: and he opens the door and there's his dad standing fully.
Speaker 3: Wolfed out too, and he's like.
Speaker 5: You knew the whole time, and you didn't tell me why.
Speaker 5: He's like, son, sometimes this stuff skips generations. He says,
Speaker 5: I was hoping it would have skipped you. And I
Speaker 5: think that's, you know, kind of telling you right there.
Speaker 5: I think that's what happens.
Speaker 2: Wow. Now, the concept of genetic corruptions, do you believe
Speaker 2: we're seeing echoes of the same tempering in modern science
Speaker 2: and transhumanism or DNA manipulation.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: One, I mean Solomon says that you know, nothing new
Speaker 5: is under the sun. We will discover this thing in
Speaker 5: marvel and say, oh, this new thing, But no, it
Speaker 5: is something that has been done before and just been
Speaker 5: forgotten and just now being rediscovered. Because Genesis six is
Speaker 5: allen angels came down bread with the dollars and men.
Speaker 5: They gave them forbid knowledge, taught them the seven sacred sciences,
Speaker 5: and the Book of Jubilee says that they even sinned
Speaker 5: against the beasts and birds of the air. So I
Speaker 5: think what that's alluding to is genetic model vacation and manipulation.
Speaker 3: That's where you get all the hybrid.
Speaker 5: Cameras stories throughout history, and we're doing it today. It's
Speaker 5: just it's been lost and forgotten, like Solomon says, and
Speaker 5: somehow it's been rediscovered and brought back. Maybe it's these
Speaker 5: demonic beings and following angels whispering in the ear of
Speaker 5: these people giving them these ideas. Because you get Jimmy
Speaker 5: Page and some of these famous rock stars that talk about,
Speaker 5: you know, their most famous songs they don't even remember
Speaker 5: writing them, that they just passed out one day drunk
Speaker 5: or party in and woke up and boom, there's a
Speaker 5: piece of paper with all the chords written down, all
Speaker 5: the lyrics in their handwriting, but they have no recollection
Speaker 5: of it. Or like me, you know, Genesis twenty five,
Speaker 5: twenty five popped into my head. You know, I think
Speaker 5: that we have little pushes and nudges from this other
Speaker 5: world to accomplish things.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you often talk about truth being buried under
Speaker 2: layers of deception. Do you think Esaul's true story was
Speaker 2: intentionally distorted or erased from mainstream theology?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so. I mean, like I said, it
Speaker 5: could go either way. It could be in that he
Speaker 5: saw it was just a bad egg, and the writers
Speaker 5: that were you know, looking back and retelling his story
Speaker 5: spun it really bad and made him be this harry
Speaker 5: beast looking dude and caught him a serpent seed and
Speaker 5: all that, just to really scotch it up, you know,
Speaker 5: and bring his evil and wickedness up at another tear.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's a possibility for being honest, but it
Speaker 5: could also be that they wanted to blot out his
Speaker 5: story because even when you get into the prophet of Balem,
Speaker 5: you know, he's basically bribed by a king to curse
Speaker 5: the Israelites coming up into the Holy Land and stopped
Speaker 5: him because they were taking out all these giant cleans
Speaker 5: and just you know, cleansing the land basically. But instead
Speaker 5: of cursing them, Balem blesses them because the the Lord
Speaker 5: came and told him, you know, he wasn't going to
Speaker 5: do this, and he was going to do what he
Speaker 5: wanted him to do.
Speaker 3: But in that.
Speaker 5: Encounter on the mountain when he's prophesying and blessing Israel,
Speaker 5: instead of cursing them, he says that he turns to
Speaker 5: a malik, you know, the Amalak Heights, and it says
Speaker 5: that in the story he wasn't on that mountain. It's
Speaker 5: just like he pops up out of nowhere. But it
Speaker 5: says he turns to a Malik and says, you were
Speaker 5: first among the nations.
Speaker 3: But you will be laid low.
Speaker 5: So could it be that he is turning to the
Speaker 5: direction or land of the Amalakites. There could have been
Speaker 5: a spirit that popped up and he saw it in
Speaker 5: the spiritual realms, like, hey, man, I know you giants
Speaker 5: ruled for a long time in the pre flood world.
Speaker 5: Some of your remnants made it through somehow, but it's over.
Speaker 5: Your time is done. I think that's a strong possibility.
Speaker 5: And even in that encounter, you have repeatedly in the
Speaker 5: Book of Deuteronomy and Leviticus, God saying that he would
Speaker 5: blot out the memory of a Malik. And I always
Speaker 5: remember talking about what they did to them in the
Speaker 5: wilderness when they attacked him and killed all those people,
Speaker 5: and that they even put that same phrase on the
Speaker 5: Jewish Holocaust Museum. There's like a big monument out front
Speaker 5: and it has that quote from I think it's Leviticus
Speaker 5: or Levitics or Deuteronomy, but it says, never forget what
Speaker 5: they've done to them. And it says he would blot
Speaker 5: out their memory. So maybe looking back, seeing how you
Speaker 5: know Esau was a wicked man of the evil one,
Speaker 5: as John even says about Kane, that maybe he wanted
Speaker 5: to blot out his name and his memory, and so
Speaker 5: they busted up his story and just scattered it into
Speaker 5: a thousand pieces. But you can't wipe out the memory
Speaker 5: of a people, because you might wipe it out of
Speaker 5: this scroll that you found, But there's ten other scrolls
Speaker 5: tell them the same story, but from different perspectives and
Speaker 5: more detail or caveats added. And I think that that
Speaker 5: is a good possibility that when they were writing these
Speaker 5: stories and compiling these stories, because a lot of people
Speaker 5: tend to forget that there was no Bible back then,
Speaker 5: there was no Torah back then. All they had was
Speaker 5: all these scrolls in circulation, and everybody read them all,
Speaker 5: everybody knew them all. And it wasn't until modernity that
Speaker 5: they wanted to unite the Christians under a unified book.
Speaker 5: That way, everybody wasn't just reading all these other things.
Speaker 5: They wanted something that would unify the Christian Church. And
Speaker 5: that's when you get the Council of Nicia in three
Speaker 5: twenty five AD and those books.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of those books that I'm.
Speaker 5: Talking about today didn't make the cut, And I don't
Speaker 5: think it's necessarily the Farius. It could have been. It
Speaker 5: could have been like you know, some fallen angels, the
Speaker 5: rulers and principalities from Deuteronomy thirty two, Whisper in the ears,
Speaker 5: nudging like I was talking about earlier, for these people
Speaker 5: to exclude certain ones that they didn't want in there.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, it was they wanted to
Speaker 5: de supernaturalize things as much as they could and wanted
Speaker 5: to cut the fluff, so to speak. They just wanted
Speaker 5: a book that hit the high notes, gave the story
Speaker 5: of Christ, the fall of man, the redemption, of the
Speaker 5: shedding of blood of Jesus Christ, the redemption to return
Speaker 5: to Eden. So this was they just kind of put
Speaker 5: together a synopsis. You know, you can always watch a
Speaker 5: movie and get a good highlight and overview of what
Speaker 5: the story is, but if you actually buy the book
Speaker 5: and read the book, there's so much more that they
Speaker 5: didn't tell you about in that movie. And I think
Speaker 5: that's kind of what we're looking at here.
Speaker 3: Is a lot of stuff is.
Speaker 5: Overview thirty thousand foot view synopsis of a lot of stuff.
Speaker 5: And if you go to these other books and study
Speaker 5: even the mythology, the quote unquote mythology, if you'll find
Speaker 5: the same story everywhere, through every continent, every timeline, people group,
Speaker 5: and maybe just the caveats, change the names or whatever,
Speaker 5: but at the core, story is the same, and you
Speaker 5: find it everywhere. There's something to it, folks, and it
Speaker 5: originates from a much older source, a shared story of humanity.
Speaker 2: That's so true. Do you see this story connecting to
Speaker 2: anti prophecy?
Speaker 3: I think so, because.
Speaker 5: You have the seed of the Serpent, and you have
Speaker 5: the giants, the sons of God, the mighty men of old.
Speaker 5: When you get into the septuagen translation, I can't remember
Speaker 5: the exact passage, but it's in Isaiah. But in there
Speaker 5: it says that behold, they stand at the gates, and
Speaker 5: I yell opened the gates.
Speaker 3: And allow them in.
Speaker 5: And the giants have returned to fulfill my wrath. So
Speaker 5: he God uses them for his judgment. And I can't
Speaker 5: remember that the Greek word. But when you get into
Speaker 5: Revelation where it talks about the beasts, the beasts are
Speaker 5: given dominion to kill, still destroy and devour and torment mankind.
Speaker 5: That Greek word that was used for beast is the
Speaker 5: same word used in many Greek texts to talk about monsters.
Speaker 3: And I tell people, could.
Speaker 5: The line of Easaul what we would call today a bigfoot,
Speaker 5: that people are having so many sightings of phasing in
Speaker 5: out of reality in these portals and different things, dog man,
Speaker 5: all this different kind of stuff. Could this be those
Speaker 5: beasts that get released in the end times to torment
Speaker 5: mankind And that's why it's ramping up and we're seeing
Speaker 5: so much more activity. And one thing when I do
Speaker 5: this talk, a lot of people that are in the
Speaker 5: bigfoot community that talk about the woo, they're like, God,
Speaker 5: well you're saying it's flesh and blood, that it's a humanoid. Well,
Speaker 5: how do you explain that? The orbs, the UFOs, the
Speaker 5: phasing in our of reality, the peorls, the footprints that
Speaker 5: just suddenly stop, and all this kind of stuff. I
Speaker 5: tell them, I'm like, with this theory that I gott
Speaker 5: and I laid it all out in the book, I
Speaker 5: think it ties all that up in a pretty red bow.
Speaker 5: Because you have the physicality that we've talked about a
Speaker 5: lot today, So could there be a remnant that still survived?
Speaker 3: Could be?
Speaker 5: They are all the legends in the Lord of these giants,
Speaker 5: these sparal giants. They love caves. You have that famous
Speaker 5: story of the Candahar giant. He was covered in red hair,
Speaker 5: just like Eastaw was talked about. And people be like, well,
Speaker 5: if there was a big foot, we'd have caught one
Speaker 5: by now, you know, we had have killed one by now.
Speaker 5: And I tell people, look at the panda. A lot
Speaker 5: of people don't realize, but the panda was just found
Speaker 5: in the last one hundred years.
Speaker 3: But there was.
Speaker 5: Legends, mythology and lore of these black and white spotted
Speaker 5: bears of the woods. And everybody's like, said the same
Speaker 5: thing that we do today about bigfoot. Ah, that's a legend,
Speaker 5: that's a lore, that's a story mothers tell their children
Speaker 5: to make them not wander too far from the house.
Speaker 5: But lo and behold, thousands of years later, it took
Speaker 5: them a long time, they finally found one. And pandas
Speaker 5: are not a smart creature. They're stupid animals. They're cute,
Speaker 5: but they're dumb. So if we take that same viewpoint
Speaker 5: and apply it to a faral giant, a humanoid creature
Speaker 5: that many times is expressed and described as a mighty
Speaker 5: hunter that traverses through the cave systems that we don't
Speaker 5: know nothing about. I don't think it's unreasonable to think
Speaker 5: that there is a remnant left and we just not
Speaker 5: being able to find them. But then the spiritual side
Speaker 5: of the wu side Genesis six in the book Enoch,
Speaker 5: what does it say the Nephilin were not of this
Speaker 5: world and they're not of heaven, so therefore when they die,
Speaker 5: their spiritual remain to torment mankind. So I don't think
Speaker 5: it's unreasonable to assume that these entities would want to
Speaker 5: take a familiar form.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, you're right. What spiritual lessons or warnings could
Speaker 2: readers take from Esau's story?
Speaker 5: Honestly, that was something that when I went on Derek
Speaker 5: Gilbert show, he threw at me, and it totally blindside
Speaker 5: to me because I was just geeking out on the
Speaker 5: history and the old texts and stuff like that, and
Speaker 5: he asked me something similar and I was like, ah, Derek, man,
Speaker 5: I wasn't ready.
Speaker 3: I was it ready.
Speaker 5: So I had to kind of come to the spot,
Speaker 5: you know, just kind of like scripture says you know.
Speaker 5: Then suddenly you know, and God told you know, Moses
Speaker 5: nare and you know, I will give you the words
Speaker 5: to speak. And it just kind of hit me and
Speaker 5: I was like, man, I guess if I What I
Speaker 5: took from it was just that Esau was a very
Speaker 5: prideful man. He was stubborn, and he was a man's man.
Speaker 5: That's why his father favored him. He was a big,
Speaker 5: strong man, great in the art art of war. The
Speaker 5: Book of Jeshure says that Nimrod single handedly killed Nimrod,
Speaker 5: the other mighty hunter, single handedly in battle. So his
Speaker 5: war prowess and his hunting prowess was was infamous. He
Speaker 5: was a man's man, but he leaned on his own
Speaker 5: strength too much. He wasn't a man of faith, and
Speaker 5: he was carnal. He didn't think of, you know, the
Speaker 5: consequences of his actions. He just went for the now.
Speaker 5: And he was stubborn and revengeful and spiteful. When the
Speaker 5: birthright's taken from him, he kind of goes into full
Speaker 5: rebellion anger. He threatens to kill his brother. He totally
Speaker 5: disconnects from his family, goes off and marries into these
Speaker 5: Nephelim giant clans. He marries, even takes a bride from Ishmael,
Speaker 5: which was his uncle who, just like him, was the
Speaker 5: firstborn eldest son that was screwed out of his birthright.
Speaker 5: And when you go into the genealogists of that, that's
Speaker 5: where you get all your Muslim nations, all your Palestinian
Speaker 5: people groups, all the people groups and religions that want
Speaker 5: to exterminate God's people stem from Ishmael, and he married
Speaker 5: into him and they're bred with them. And that's what
Speaker 5: you see on the news today every time you turn
Speaker 5: it on. It's the battle of the seed war to
Speaker 5: bloodline one thing and the other was screwed out of it,
Speaker 5: and they're still fighting for it to this day. So
Speaker 5: I tell people I try to take away from that
Speaker 5: and just be like, be humble, don't lean on your
Speaker 5: own strength and understanding all the time, be quick to
Speaker 5: forgive and love each other. And I used the parable
Speaker 5: of the prodigal son, and I talk about it. It's
Speaker 5: like the last couple chapters in my book, or verses
Speaker 5: in my book, And I said that in that parable,
Speaker 5: the son goes off and does all this wicked stuff
Speaker 5: and he thinks that his father will never take him back,
Speaker 5: but he humbles hisself and goes back to what happens
Speaker 5: His father was waiting by the gate for him, meet
Speaker 5: him with open arms, hugg him, and it says that
Speaker 5: he put a ring of authority and a master's cloak
Speaker 5: back on his back and welcomed him back with open
Speaker 5: arms and completely restored him to his former glory. That
Speaker 5: could have been Esau, but he chose bitterness. He chose revenge,
Speaker 5: and that never never turns out good. It's a cancer
Speaker 5: that will slowly eat you away. When the Bible says,
Speaker 5: you know, be quick to forgive your enemies. That's not
Speaker 5: for them, that's for you.
Speaker 2: So true. Good words. Before we wrap up, could you
Speaker 2: tell the listeners where they can find you, where they
Speaker 2: can listen to your podcast, Prometheu's Lens, and where they
Speaker 2: can get a copy of your book, Epic of Esau.
Speaker 5: Thank you, may I really appreciate the conversation. Let me
Speaker 5: come on and talk to your audience. I love geeking out,
Speaker 5: and anytime anybody's willing to let me, I will. But
Speaker 5: if you enjoyed this conversation, and if you also enjoy
Speaker 5: a Lost Civilizations hid and history cryptids, the Bible all
Speaker 5: of those cool fact conspiracy theory, all that cool stuff.
Speaker 5: I love all that stuff and I dive into all
Speaker 5: that stuff, but I kind of filter it through a
Speaker 5: biblical lens. But yeah, come check us out at Prometheus
Speaker 5: Lens Podcasts and you can get that anywhere you can
Speaker 5: consume content, Apple, Spotify, YouTube, all the places. Same thing
Speaker 5: with the social media's I'm putting out reels and stuff
Speaker 5: like that every day, nerding that with you guys. And
Speaker 5: the book The Epic of e. Sauberth Right and seed War.
Speaker 5: You can go to my website, Prometheus Lens podcast dot
Speaker 5: com and order a copy directly from me. I'll sign
Speaker 5: it and I also got stickers and custom bookmarks and
Speaker 5: like a little goodie bag that goes along with that,
Speaker 5: and you can do that. Or you can go to
Speaker 5: Amazon if you just want to give Jeff Bezos more money,
Speaker 5: and you can find it there, but twenty bucks for
Speaker 5: the hard copy or ten for the digital. But I
Speaker 5: finished it and sent it to Audible over a week ago.
Speaker 5: They say it takes up to anywhere from five to
Speaker 5: ten days, so hopefully by the time you hear this,
Speaker 5: it'll be out. But if you are not a reader,
Speaker 5: you can't read no judgments. You can even go to
Speaker 5: Audible and get you an audio copy and it's me
Speaker 5: reading it to you and my voice, so there's no
Speaker 5: AI stuff.
Speaker 2: That's cool. Well, Doc Brown, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: coming on this show today. This has been such an
Speaker 2: eye opening conversation and I really appreciate you sharing your
Speaker 2: time and your insights with us here today. I want
Speaker 2: to give a huge mahalo to Doc Brown for joining
Speaker 2: us today. His book Epic of Esau really challenges us
Speaker 2: to look deeper at scripture history and what's happening in
Speaker 2: our world right now. If you haven't already, please go
Speaker 2: check out Doc's book Epic of Esau and listen to
Speaker 2: his podcast Prometheus Lens. You guys will love the depth
Speaker 2: and research and insight he brings on his show as well,
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